1 00:00:11,599 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: What is going on? 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: Clippers fans, Welcome to a kind of impromptu holiday event session. 3 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,839 I am Chuck Mockler of Clips and dip Adam Ohs 4 00:00:23,839 --> 00:00:27,640 and Will Updike will not be here today. We're gonna 5 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,839 be doing a full crew pod on Tuesday after the 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:38,880 Clippers take on the Heat tomorrow. God only knows what's 7 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,759 gonna happen in that game. But if you're listening to 8 00:00:41,759 --> 00:00:43,359 this and you missed it, you can always find us 9 00:00:43,359 --> 00:00:45,960 at YouTube dot com Shack Clippers podcast. We do these 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,399 impromptu hanks. Sorry for the spotty coverage this week. There 11 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:53,560 was a big holiday. I hosted people and helped with cooking, 12 00:00:53,679 --> 00:01:00,799 so sorry about that. What a hellish week. Things continue 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,079 to get worse for the Clippers. They're five and fifteen, 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,719 most recently losing to a MAVs team, mostly recently losing 15 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,159 to like a third of the Maps team. They lost 16 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:20,280 to some of the Dallas Mavericks, which was terrible. Didn't 17 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:25,879 feel great at all. We're wasting some pretty good performances 18 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:29,719 from James Harden and Kawhi Leonard and I don't know 19 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:39,040 what to do, honestly, Ali Malik saying therapy. Yeah, this 20 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:45,200 this is brutal. We talked about last week when we 21 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,560 were kind of talking trade stuff and things weren't as 22 00:01:48,599 --> 00:01:50,519 hellish as they were, and Will was like it was 23 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,959 when we were four and ten and we were like, oh, 24 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:57,079 I don't think they should make any trades. Well they're 25 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:00,599 five and eleven. And Will literally asked me. He was like, 26 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,799 would you do a trade If they're eight and twenty. 27 00:02:02,959 --> 00:02:04,239 Speaker 1: We might be eight and twenty. 28 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: We might end up eight and twenty, So sure, maybe 29 00:02:07,879 --> 00:02:11,759 do some trades just things are going poorly. Last week 30 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,680 in the same episode, we were talking about, Oh, you know, 31 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,919 I think we could tell if guys quit on the 32 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,800 team or something like that. Oh, what's up, Jimmy Williams. 33 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,319 Thank you for the super chat. Yeah, let it out 34 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,479 for the therapy session. 35 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving we can. Yeah. 36 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: I hope everyone had a great time regardless of whatever 37 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:32,360 you did this week. 38 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:38,879 Speaker 1: Made a bomb ass turkey over here. Yeah. 39 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: So there was the James Harden I said last week, like, oh, 40 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,919 we would know if James Harden isn't feeling it. He's 41 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,120 a very obvious guy when it comes to those kinds 42 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,280 of things. That has now happened the postgame after the 43 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,080 MAVs the availability was rough. I have the clip and 44 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,039 I'm gonna play it in case you missed it. But 45 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:03,919 it's just like, shout out Joel, shout out all the 46 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,240 beat reporters, by the way, this whole year. They're always 47 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,639 great for the Clippers, but they deserve some credit here. 48 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: But there we go. 49 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: Who you wanted to play through, how you wanted to 50 00:03:16,439 --> 00:03:20,039 play with the challenge of trying to integrate those different 51 00:03:20,039 --> 00:03:21,319 guys into how y'all. 52 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: Want to play offensive right now? Challenge you? God damn 53 00:03:28,439 --> 00:03:32,719 in what way is everywhere for you? 54 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you've been one of the great floor raisers 55 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,280 that this game has ever seen. Is this how is 56 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:40,360 it more challenging than some of the other situations you've 57 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,439 been in where you've been able to race that floor. 58 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: Around, can call the last situations or whatever like situation 59 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:53,560 hers is typicult, brutal, terrible. 60 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,639 Speaker 2: That these are the vibes that I was like, we 61 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,120 would know if if things were bad, But this is bad. 62 00:03:58,199 --> 00:03:58,439 Speaker 1: Man. 63 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: We've seen some dejected Zubot's interviews and CP three is 64 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:11,039 now cryptically posting I don't know Chris Paul is posting 65 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,719 as if he's a wide receiver, which I don't know 66 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:19,199 how that feels. He posted the definition of leeway on 67 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:23,560 his Instagram today. The amount of freedom to mover act 68 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,759 that is available. We don't know what that means. Who 69 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,800 is that directed at. Probably has to do with the 70 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,199 fact that the team is five and fifteen. I don't 71 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:39,360 like having to look at cryptic Instagram shit. 72 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:40,759 Speaker 1: It sucks. 73 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: Alan Ning saying any changes on December fifteenth. Probably it 74 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,879 seems things have changed. Obviously we were very much on 75 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,240 the let's wait and see train. Well we're twenty games 76 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,439 in and the Clippers look pretty terrible, and Harden based 77 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:03,399 on that doesn't even I can understand why. 78 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:04,199 Speaker 1: He's so frustrated. 79 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: Injuries have been a huge factor, but things kind of 80 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,759 looked bad before all that happened, and the depth has 81 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,000 not been able to pick up any slack at all. 82 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,480 Justin Russo tweeted shout out Justin Rousseau again. Yeah, the 83 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:21,839 CP three thing makes no sense, Like. 84 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,759 Speaker 1: Who has the leeway here? Who is getting too much 85 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:25,000 of it? 86 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: Justin Rousseau tweeted this out and he said, I know 87 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:32,800 I've mentioned it several times in recent days, but the 88 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,079 Clippers are getting twenty eight, six and nine on a 89 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,519 sixty three percent true shooting percentage from James Harden twenty 90 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,959 five to five and three on a sixty four true 91 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:44,839 shooting percentage from Kwhi Leonard who's also shooting fifty forty 92 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,759 ninety and sixteen twelve and three on sixty two percent 93 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,040 true shooting from a vitza zu bots And they can't 94 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:53,920 win games. Think about how absurd that even sounds. 95 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: It makes no sense. 96 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:02,519 Speaker 2: Yes, uh Isiah, we are so deep now, quite literally 97 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:03,680 the worst depth in the league. 98 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: It really is. It's horrible. 99 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: They scored five points last game the bench did I know, 100 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,439 guys are out. That doesn't change the fact that they 101 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:19,439 should score more than five points. It's just been everyone 102 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:23,120 has been bad at things they're usually good at, and 103 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:27,399 everyone's just like chasing and pushing. 104 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: To try and make something happen. But there's just no 105 00:06:32,879 --> 00:06:33,800 actual communicat. 106 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,319 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the defense, by the way, you have 107 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:44,160 done gambling on steals in that MAVs game, Brook Lopez 108 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:47,759 had like the most hype of any signing that the 109 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:53,600 Clippers had almost and now he's getting dnps. Non Clippers fans, 110 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,439 we're talking about how WHOA What's gonna happen when those 111 00:06:57,519 --> 00:07:01,319 backups have to go against Brook Lopez nothing because he's 112 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:08,360 getting DNPS, so that stinks. CP three. It's his last 113 00:07:08,399 --> 00:07:12,360 season for a reason. It's a franchise goat, but. 114 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:15,079 Speaker 1: Not really it. 115 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:28,959 Speaker 2: Bogie's hurt, so that's just brutal. Uh, it's just all 116 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:39,560 going poorly? Is it the coaching? So this is what's difficult. 117 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,319 This is what's hard for me right now. And I'm 118 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,480 not a basketball genius in any way. I watched the 119 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:51,600 Clippers and random other games, but I don't know if 120 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,920 it's the coaching, because it. 121 00:07:52,959 --> 00:07:53,959 Speaker 1: Also seems like. 122 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: No one can do what they're supposed to be good at, 123 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,879 you know what I mean. I know it might sound 124 00:08:02,959 --> 00:08:08,399 reductive and stupid. Firing the coach I don't think makes 125 00:08:08,439 --> 00:08:16,120 the team like any better than what they are now. Yeah, 126 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,680 so this is what I was talking about, Lisa. What 127 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,279 is up with this help defense? Everyone is doing klaytops 128 00:08:20,319 --> 00:08:22,360 the wide open for three is ridiculous. That's one of 129 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:26,759 those plays that Tyler referenced. That play I believe in 130 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,959 the post game kind of, I'm just like they're just 131 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:37,320 clawing and trying to do shit, and it's just frustrating. 132 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:43,919 I don't know if it's the coaching. Louve seemed frustrated 133 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,919 a week ago. We watched that clip where he's just 134 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,080 kind of like chuckling to himself about trying to get 135 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:53,120 guys to do what they're supposed to do. Maybe it's 136 00:08:53,159 --> 00:08:58,879 just exhaustion from having to constantly deal with guys being out. 137 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,639 Can't tell me I lou isn't frustrated. I sure as 138 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:03,399 hell would be. Think if you had to coach a 139 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:04,799 team and everyone was hurt all the time, who was 140 00:09:04,799 --> 00:09:07,360 supposed to be good? Yes, it was crazy that they 141 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,639 were billing Bradley Beal as the third best player. 142 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: That was nuts. 143 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: But you still need him to try and make anything 144 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:21,039 happen this season. You still need Derek Jones junior. You 145 00:09:21,159 --> 00:09:22,759 just think the bench should be a little bit better. 146 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,879 The third and fourth quarter have just been brutal. You 147 00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:34,480 look at the rebounding percentages or rankings per quarter, and 148 00:09:34,519 --> 00:09:36,919 the Clippers are like pretty good in the first half 149 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:43,039 and then they're just bad in the second half. Maybe 150 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,720 played cam Christy Moore. Sure for the development, for the 151 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:49,919 sake of development, I agree. I don't think they're gonna 152 00:09:49,919 --> 00:09:53,519 win anything this year. I wanted them to win the 153 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,919 NBA Cup. That doesn't mean shit to people, and they 154 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:04,240 didn't even win the what's up wayman gave what's up? Jordan, 155 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,799 What's up? Punk's gone wrong? Wayman gave away asking does 156 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,320 the horrible start actually improve their trade options or does 157 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,200 it hurt it? I don't want to say the chaos 158 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,440 is by design, but it is so weird. The chaos 159 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,879 is not by design. Nobody involved with this organization wants 160 00:10:17,879 --> 00:10:19,960 the team to be five and fifteen. The guy who 161 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:22,399 just purchased and built the new stadium does not want 162 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,559 the team to be five and fifteen. I do not 163 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:27,159 think this is chaos by design. I think this is chaos. 164 00:10:27,519 --> 00:10:33,320 This is classic Cloppers chaos. So this is where I'm wondering, because, like, 165 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,039 is Babar just gonna keep? I do think the change 166 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,519 that is going to be made will be trades. I 167 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:44,519 don't think they fire anybody. I don't think they fire 168 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:49,120 anybody because I don't know if that helps because the 169 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,360 roster is also bad. I don't think if they if 170 00:10:51,399 --> 00:10:54,519 they fire Tylou. I don't think Bogey gets healthy and 171 00:10:54,519 --> 00:10:57,919 starts hitting threes. John Collins stops turning it over. Chris 172 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,960 Dunn stops gambling on steals. Uh. I don't think Brook Lopez, 173 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,000 I don't think becomes the best backup five that he 174 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:11,480 was supposed to be if they fired Tyler. So I 175 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:14,120 don't I'm not saying I agree with that. I just 176 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,080 don't think it will happen. I don't know who you 177 00:11:16,159 --> 00:11:20,000 hire either. A couple more of those James Harden interviews 178 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:22,639 and we'll see where I'm at. But so I think 179 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,399 Balber maybe pushes for some trades. 180 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:26,919 Speaker 1: Why not? Why not trade? 181 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,639 Speaker 2: I guess I don't think it improves the trade options 182 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:31,679 because no one on the bench looks good. So the 183 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,679 only the only tradable people on the team are John Collins, 184 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:42,679 James Harden, Kawhi, Leonard Avitza Zubots. I don't know anyone 185 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,080 else who has a bunch of value. I don't think 186 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,000 they should give a bunch John Collins either. I talked 187 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,600 about that on Tuesday before the Lakers beat the shit 188 00:11:52,639 --> 00:11:55,639 out of us. I think John Collins is a guy 189 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,519 that like you just keep and ride it out because 190 00:11:57,519 --> 00:11:59,080 then you can extend him. And he's part of all 191 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,200 this cap space that we have that what are we 192 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:02,919 going to use it on? 193 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:04,639 Speaker 1: Maybe John's Collins. 194 00:12:04,279 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: Can salvage this season and be extension worthy is what 195 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:13,679 I'm saying. Keep Derek Jones junior obviously, But I don't 196 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,960 know what the trade values are. The Clippers subreated is 197 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:19,639 up in arms about it. Like I said, those stats 198 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,879 I just read off like Kawhi and Harden are playing 199 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,559 very good offensive basketball. James Harden is having like a renaissance. 200 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:33,080 I don't know where he wants to go though, And what. 201 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: Do we get? 202 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: We get low first round pick because I don't think 203 00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:39,320 a bad team is trading for James Harden. We get 204 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,080 low first round pick, and we get guys that they're 205 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,480 gonna try and get off the books. Every trade is 206 00:12:44,519 --> 00:12:46,879 kind of like the Damar trade. It feels like unless 207 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:51,080 we can get picks, If we can get picks, fuck it. 208 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:59,399 But yeah, the Kawhi's trade value is so odd because 209 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:07,399 you're not you just don't know. Harden also has Harden's contract. 210 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,600 I'm pretty sure it's partially guaranteed next year. Am I 211 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:10,240 wrong about that? 212 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Nope? Uh, He's making thirty nine this year. 213 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,879 Speaker 2: He's got a player option for forty two million dollars 214 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,000 as a thirty seven year old. 215 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:25,639 Speaker 1: Twenty six. 216 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,159 Speaker 2: Twenty seven will be fully guaranteed on seven eleven, twenty six, 217 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,960 so it is partially guaranteed. So he's going to be 218 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,000 thirty seven and making forty two million dollars. 219 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what team wants that. 220 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,759 Speaker 2: What team is a helio centric point guard away from 221 00:13:44,799 --> 00:13:45,519 winning the chip? 222 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:50,519 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I don't know. I don't 223 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:51,679 know what the values are. 224 00:13:57,639 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: Like, I don't think the aspiration stuff has anything to 225 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:03,799 do with wanting to trade Kawhi. I also think that 226 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,200 this franchise, if they could have made a move that 227 00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:13,039 got them picks, would have maybe done it for Kawhi 228 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:20,440 and James Harden. It's just brutal though, right like maybe 229 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:23,679 Houston for James Harden. 230 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. 231 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:35,799 Speaker 2: Someone said, like Punk's gone wrong? Is bringing up to 232 00:14:35,799 --> 00:14:37,320 do we want picks right now? We have to wait 233 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,519 till Kauai troubles settled. What if we trade players, NBA 234 00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:41,679 takes away those picks. I think they'd probably take. 235 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: Away our pick. I don't know. I don't know. 236 00:14:44,919 --> 00:14:46,559 Speaker 2: They probably just take away the picks that we were 237 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,840 supposed to get when they read up after the Shade 238 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,480 trade is settled. So I don't know if we would 239 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:59,559 get traded picks taken away. I have zero knowledge of 240 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,559 how those work, but I don't think they would take 241 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,559 our trade and picks away fair responsive. So I get like, 242 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,759 so I don't know what Bomber's gonna do. It does 243 00:15:09,799 --> 00:15:11,440 feel like a change might need to be made. They're 244 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,600 five and fifteen. They are very close to the bottom 245 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:21,720 and almost every important stat which is indicative of playing 246 00:15:21,759 --> 00:15:24,200 and coaching, I think it's fair to say it's indicative 247 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:31,320 of both, Like you're not fifteen with this collection of guys, 248 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,679 with your three top three offensive drivers playing as well, 249 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,799 it's a combination of everything. I don't think placing blame helps. 250 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,320 It'd be great if there was one thing that we 251 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:51,600 could point to. Raymond Sara asking, is Adam okay? Seemed 252 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,080 pretty despondent last night, but so were all of us. 253 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:58,440 That's how it feels right now, man. That Laker loss 254 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,039 really started the downward just like, well, shit, we can't 255 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,159 even get up for this game. Also, Raymond Hoop are 256 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,679 doing well. It's just frustrating, dude. You know what every 257 00:16:08,679 --> 00:16:10,600 single game is, what every single game is going to 258 00:16:10,679 --> 00:16:16,679 be top three guys on pace for a great game. 259 00:16:16,759 --> 00:16:19,120 Nobody else able to do anything. Clippers maybe up at 260 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,399 the half end up losing. It's just what happens. They 261 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:27,840 have no gas. They got hit with a brutal combination 262 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,879 that I think Adam pointed out pretty early in the 263 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:32,559 season of something to worry about, which is older roster, 264 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,240 the NBA is now faster than it's been in forty 265 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:40,840 years or whatever. Oh yeah, the Clippers talk chat seems 266 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:44,440 a little toxic through no fault of Adams. 267 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: Uh, we just put those. 268 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:50,639 Speaker 2: People on timeout on clips and did we try and 269 00:16:50,679 --> 00:16:54,679 keep it chill. Yeah, So that's what I'm frustrated about everything. 270 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,720 I don't know what the hell is going to happen 271 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:02,039 this upcoming week. The Clippers play the Heat on Monday, 272 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,000 the Hawks on Wednesday, and then a back to back 273 00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:06,759 Friday Saturday. I don't know what to make of these 274 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:08,480 matchups because the team's been so bad. 275 00:17:08,519 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what they can build on. 276 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: You know, we talked about this a little bit the 277 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,279 other week, where it's like when you look at the 278 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:17,440 team on a game by game basis, you're like, yeah, 279 00:17:17,519 --> 00:17:19,759 cut the turnovers out, But then you're like, Okay, if 280 00:17:19,759 --> 00:17:24,480 we cut the turnovers out, does that help everything else? 281 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:31,799 Like we're still a bottom ten three point shooting team. 282 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,039 We foul a lot, like no one can make a 283 00:17:37,079 --> 00:17:40,279 bucket outside of three guys. John Collins had his best 284 00:17:40,319 --> 00:17:42,200 efficiency the other night, and we couldn't win. 285 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: We can't win games when we win the turnover battle like. 286 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: It's rough right now, Warblade sick name with a picture 287 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,559 with Adam says, considering how good in general l Frank 288 00:17:59,599 --> 00:18:01,839 has been over the years and making moves, how would 289 00:18:01,839 --> 00:18:04,319 you assess how much leverage he's had to. 290 00:18:04,319 --> 00:18:06,559 Speaker 1: Actually make moves while appeasing the Stars? 291 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the Russell Westbrook Paul George sing is 292 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,599 like the most annoying. That's the biggest example of like him, 293 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,039 him capitulating to what the stars want. Trade did had 294 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,240 Lunn went by, they didn't want Russell Westbrook. He had 295 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,599 a quote basically saying we want guys who can shoot well. 296 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,559 Lou and PG kind of public campaigned for Westbrook. They 297 00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:30,960 have to eat Russell Westbrook. So I think, I mean 298 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,960 they had James Harden on the phone with Bradley Beal. 299 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,680 I think it's an open relationship. I don't think Lawrence 300 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,039 Frank is pushing for guy other than Russell Westbrook. 301 00:18:39,079 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: That one situation, I don't think Len. 302 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: S Frank is pushing for guys that the that the 303 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,400 other guys don't want. But I do think it's very collaborative. 304 00:18:46,279 --> 00:18:48,519 Again to the point that Harden's on the phone with 305 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:57,599 Bradley Beal. So I don't know. Yeah, oh a war 306 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,759 Blade saying, I think it's because we thought L. Frank 307 00:18:59,759 --> 00:19:01,759 cooked so offseason and as the season's played out has 308 00:19:01,759 --> 00:19:02,640 been an abject failure. 309 00:19:02,759 --> 00:19:07,279 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I don't know, man. 310 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: I don't think Lawrence Frank loses his job. I don't 311 00:19:14,039 --> 00:19:23,799 think Tyler loses his job during the season. Scarclio saying 312 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,880 if L. Frank can't fix the team by the trade deadline, 313 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,480 sending packing, the trade deadline is off fixing. Shit, what 314 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,920 is the trade deadline fixing for this team? 315 00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:36,599 Speaker 1: Right? Like what? 316 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,319 Speaker 2: We're not a piece away, you know what I'm saying, 317 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:49,640 Like this is the most Last year was obviously what 318 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,559 I think will turn out to be the highest part 319 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,359 of the end of the coilan An era, and this 320 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,039 year is the lowest. I don't think next year will 321 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:01,519 be this bad, but this year is the lowest for 322 00:20:01,599 --> 00:20:03,240 the fact that they can't I don't know if the 323 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,039 team can be fixed. They're broken as hell and so 324 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,000 I don't think l Frank gets fired if he can't 325 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,480 fix the team by the trade deadline, like we're not 326 00:20:13,519 --> 00:20:15,279 going to trade for DeMar Deroz and all of a 327 00:20:15,319 --> 00:20:21,359 sudden play like a sixty one team. Yeah, there's been 328 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,640 a bunch of bad luck and some moves that really 329 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,119 did not work out. I'm not trying to take the 330 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,759 blame off of anybody, but like, uh, Beal breaking his 331 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,160 hip is absurd. 332 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:38,519 Speaker 1: It's just been exhausting. Man. 333 00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:41,599 Speaker 2: This just like this year has just I think been 334 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:43,920 the epitome of what everyone's been frustrated about. 335 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: And it's just all happening at once. 336 00:20:46,319 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: So, hey, really rough end to the era. We got 337 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:52,680 a whole bunch of cap space and a couple of years, 338 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:58,400 so let's get hype to use that way we giveaway 339 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:04,559 and the comments saying talking about how they right congratulations. Yeah, 340 00:21:04,599 --> 00:21:06,079 So this week I don't know what they do. I 341 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,920 hope they go to and two. Norm Powell is probably 342 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,160 gonna have fifty against us on Monday. Uh, we're splitting 343 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,880 the back to back. It's my best guess. God, damn, 344 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:20,880 do we bring the dips back? This is the season 345 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,799 loss to the point that we should bring the dips back. 346 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:25,359 If you're new to the show. We do dip reviews 347 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,359 in the off season, and this team is not fouled 348 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,039 right now, so we might bring the dips back. 349 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: Man, I hope they go. Does it even matter if 350 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,400 they go to and two? What's the strength of schedule 351 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:45,240 for the rest of the year from Tank of thon 352 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,680 average strength or fourteenth? We are right in the middle. 353 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: That's bad because we are five and fifteen, so we're 354 00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:01,920 playing like a dog shit team. If it makes people 355 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,440 feel better, our city has the hardest strength of schedule left. 356 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,519 Speaker 1: Good luck. 357 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, this is a brutal drive or 358 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:14,279 this is just a brutal, brutal start to the season. 359 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,680 Someone said, explain dips dips, which sometimes again to the 360 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,559 philo philosophical definition of what a dip is. We usually 361 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:27,519 we bring a recipe for a dip and then we 362 00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:30,359 review it and we determine if we would bring the 363 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,480 dip to a barbecue or not. We've had some really 364 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,400 good ones if you want to watch them. There's some 365 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,519 offseason episodes with the dips. We all tend to do 366 00:22:37,559 --> 00:22:40,359 a very good job, except sometimes Adam doesn't bring anything 367 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,039 to eat. The dip with but we make a dip 368 00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:44,160 recipe once a week. 369 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,039 Speaker 1: We each do. That is what the dips are. Would 370 00:22:47,079 --> 00:22:49,079 you like to hear about that while. 371 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:53,599 Speaker 2: We also talk about the hellscape that is the Clippers season. 372 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,480 Just let us know on YouTube, let us know in 373 00:22:55,519 --> 00:23:00,240 the comments, let us know on a review on iTunes. 374 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,039 Next eleven days are brutal for the Clippers, for sure. 375 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,119 March there's eighteen games. I have to mention it. I'm 376 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,039 legally obligated to mention it. We got a hell yeah 377 00:23:13,279 --> 00:23:13,920 for the dips. 378 00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. See we're trying to have some positivity. Yeah. 379 00:23:21,519 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: I hope they lean into play in the youth more. Honestly, 380 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:34,519 like Jordan Miller's back, that's good. He hasn't been very good. 381 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,960 Get Cam Christy some minutes. Kobe Sanders hitting the bit 382 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,319 of a wall. Oh yeah, the Puerto Rican Mayo ketchup 383 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,440 was very good. You're listening. That has no context, But 384 00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:49,160 someone on the YouTube is commenting about their recipe for 385 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:58,119 Puerto Rican Mao ketchup fantastic. Yeah, So things are not good. 386 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:00,319 I tend to try and be positive about the Ers, 387 00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:02,680 but things are not good. They have a bit of 388 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,599 a we just don't know what we just don't know 389 00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:09,519 what's gonna happen. They just look bad like I don't know. 390 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,839 So we we do have actual items. We are bringing 391 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,039 the dips back, so that seems good. 392 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: Again. 393 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's hope we split these next four games. 394 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:28,880 We're gonna have a full episode for everybody on Tuesday. Yes, 395 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,240 we do need to watch party at the thirty five 396 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,680 or maybe when the Clippers are on the verge of 397 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,440 going like we'll get a thirty five or watch party 398 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,440 setup for sure, because those are fun. I will be 399 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,519 taking a lean uber out there because this team makes you. 400 00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: Want to knock them back. 401 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:54,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people want to make Jeff Gundy 402 00:24:54,839 --> 00:25:00,200 the coach. Well, he didn't Kobe Brown, whatever you think him. 403 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,599 I don't think he'll be back. If you're on the 404 00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:06,440 blank stinks, get rid of him. 405 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:06,799 Speaker 1: Trained. 406 00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people on this Clipper see right 407 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,000 now that you probably don't like five bench points the 408 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:12,319 other night was terrible. 409 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:17,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, when is there is there gonna be a player's 410 00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:22,240 only meeting. That would be crazy. Players only meeting would 411 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:22,680 be nuts. 412 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: Yanick uh Yanick is very athletic, but his defense I 413 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:34,240 think might be worse than than Robin lopezz uh Brook Lopez. Sorry, Yeah, 414 00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:36,279 we do need Carl Tark. Get Carl Tark to play 415 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:38,319 the four. We're gonna have Carl on next week. I 416 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,720 think he's also back in December, so we'll have Carl 417 00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:49,319 tart On for sure. We'll get Carl on the show 418 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,440 for sure. All Right, I'm gonna head out and go 419 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:56,680 watch some Sunday Night football. Hope everyone had a wonderful week. 420 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,039 If you've watched every Clippers game, maybe take a break 421 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,559 this week. 422 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: Maybe just give. 423 00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:06,799 Speaker 2: Yourself some stress and some stress free time. Don't watch 424 00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:12,200 the Clippers. Here's the going to and two here's some 425 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,680 good process. Honestly, at this point, my bar four success 426 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:20,920 for did the game go well? Is no cryptic postgame comments. 427 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:24,400 That's where we're at. Does not feel great, no cryptic 428 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,839 postgame comments, and I feel great about whatever happens this week. 429 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,440 We will have a full episode for y'all. Like I 430 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:36,200 said on Tuesday with Adam Will and myself, thank you 431 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,680 all for hanging out, thank you for being chilling in 432 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,799 the chat. The Clipper the clips and dipchat is always 433 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,160 very fun, so we very we always appreciate. 434 00:26:43,759 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: People in there. 435 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: If you're listening and you would like to come hang 436 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,039 out in the chat. Check out YouTube dot com sash 437 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:53,680 at Clippers podcast on YouTube. Yeah, and again, hope everyone 438 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,119 had a safe holiday. Hope you enjoy whatever you were doing. 439 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,480 If you weren't celebrating, send us your dip rest because 440 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,359 I think we're bringing those back, So send us your 441 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,480 favorite dip recipes and we'll make them on the show. 442 00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:11,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, keep on keeping on. If anyone at your 443 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:12,319 work talk. 444 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: Should it to you about the Clippers, I don't know, 445 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,039 figure it out. 446 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:19,799 Speaker 1: Everyone. 447 00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:22,039 Speaker 2: Have a great rest of you your week, and yeah, 448 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:24,640 hey let's go clips. No more crypto comments.