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Speaker 5: Welcome to the cult rejects. In this episode, I got
Speaker 5: a bunch of us with us today. I got Jin
Speaker 5: the Ninja. Welcome, sir, what's going on? Thank you very
Speaker 5: much for joining us today.
Speaker 6: Thank you Nick, I appreciate it obviously, my boss, mister
Speaker 6: thirty three, and thank you guys for being on and
Speaker 6: working with all of you today. And I've never met
Speaker 6: Julia Raven or Lobster.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's all good, good and you want to
Speaker 5: let everybody know where they can find yourself.
Speaker 7: Sure.
Speaker 6: So I have a show called Threshold Saints. It's really
Speaker 6: I'm calling it a serial experiments in speculative ontology. So
Speaker 6: it's like about the metafiction of magic and fiction, storytelling
Speaker 6: all the things that we talked about whenever I'm on
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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, and your links will be in
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Speaker 5: What is going on? Thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 5: I know you have nothing to plug, but thank you
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Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, I do have something to plug.
Speaker 7: A cult research institute dot org our website where a
Speaker 7: lot of really cool people contribute a written form of media.
Speaker 5: So thank you, awesome, thank you very much. And yeah,
Speaker 5: people go check that site out. Now to Julia, Cosmic
Speaker 5: Peach is with us. Hell yeah, what is going on?
Speaker 7: Julia?
Speaker 5: Let everybody know what your deal is and where they
Speaker 5: can find your stuff. Please.
Speaker 2: I am official occult rejeck. Now this is my second
Speaker 2: time co hosting. I'm so excited. Yeah, you can find
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Speaker 2: of course. WelCom and yeah, actually I've been really digging
Speaker 2: being an occult reject because I've already learned so much.
Speaker 2: I love I love having the variety of guests on
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about this one today too.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thank you, no, and thank you for being
Speaker 5: a part of it. Julia, you're a great researcher. I
Speaker 5: appreciate the stuff you do. And uh the og himself. Last,
Speaker 5: but not least, Robbie Marx, what is up, my man?
Speaker 5: Please let everybody know where they can find all your
Speaker 5: amazing work and your art.
Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Thanks for getting this
Speaker 8: group together. This is gonna be a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm our Marx or Robbie Marx.
Speaker 8: I'm an artist and I do art for bands and
Speaker 8: festivals as well as researching. If you want to check
Speaker 8: out any of my stuff, my art, my podcast, my Patreon,
Speaker 8: you can go to my link tree which is at
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Speaker 8: pull up everything.
Speaker 5: That's what's up, and thank you very much for joining
Speaker 5: us as well, sir. Finally, to the guests of the hour,
Speaker 5: we got Raven and Lobster from the Nephilim Death Squad.
Speaker 5: I went on the show. I had a blest. It
Speaker 5: was awesome. They asked great questions, they seemed really into it,
Speaker 5: and I really wanted to get them on the show
Speaker 5: as well. I guess we'll go with top Lobster first.
Speaker 5: What's up, dude? You want to introduce yourself and let
Speaker 5: everybody know who may not know who you are? What
Speaker 5: you deal is?
Speaker 9: Yes, what's up, guys? Thank you? I am a ship
Speaker 9: poster online. I own a T shirt company Toplopster dot com,
Speaker 9: and I do a couple of shows, one of them
Speaker 9: NEPHLM des Squad with David Here we talk about the
Speaker 9: things that you guys like. I do comedy Tower Gang,
Speaker 9: and we do a political pseudo conspiracy show with our
Speaker 9: frand Clint Russell, which will be we'll be doing it.
Speaker 9: I guess after this show, right around two thirty. It's
Speaker 9: called Dangerous Retards or dangerous real talk, real dudes, the
Speaker 9: retards implied. And then that's what I do. Dave, what's up?
Speaker 9: What's up? Guys?
Speaker 4: Thank you for having us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just did an episode with you, Nick and
Speaker 3: we also had Robbie on and that was a awesome conversation.
Speaker 3: We went heavy into the egg, real heavy into the egg.
Speaker 3: And Yeah, I'm David Lee Korby. You can find me
Speaker 3: on Twitter at David L. Corbo on Twitter, and I
Speaker 3: am one half of Nephlum Desk Squad, one third of
Speaker 3: Dangerous Retards, also do a show called Timeline Cleansed that
Speaker 3: probably nobody should watch because it's very abrasive and incredibly offensive.
Speaker 4: Very happy to be here, guys.
Speaker 5: Awesome, Yeah, I'm very happy to have you on, and
Speaker 5: especially for this topic. I guess whichever one of you
Speaker 5: want to answer this first? Who was it that even
Speaker 5: came across this guy that thought it was interesting to cover?
Speaker 9: Oh, that was top top, We'll discovered him. Not really,
Speaker 9: it was it was just multiple guests we've had. We
Speaker 9: have people on and they come on and they're like, yeah, anyway,
Speaker 9: so you know, this guy was doing this thing and
Speaker 9: I was like, what's his name? And they're like, pouha rich.
Speaker 9: I was like okay, and then it's it's come up
Speaker 9: like maybe seven eight times before I said, wait a second,
Speaker 9: what the fuck is going on in different fields of study,
Speaker 9: not just like the occult, but like science, in the
Speaker 9: science realm, in the CIA realm, and you know, the
Speaker 9: government realm. So I'm like, okay, now we need to
Speaker 9: actually into who this guy is. And I think the
Speaker 9: thing that broke the camel's back was William Ramsey was
Speaker 9: on the show and he was talking about this Council
Speaker 9: of Nine, not the actual entities of the Council of Nine,
Speaker 9: but this council that this guy created too. It was
Speaker 9: like a governing body sort of counsel that I guess
Speaker 9: they were international. And his name pops up again. So
Speaker 9: I was like, all right, that's the final straw. We've
Speaker 9: got to really look into this guy. And now everywhere
Speaker 9: we look, he's consistently popping up. We even have one
Speaker 9: field of study that we're not ready to really dive
Speaker 9: in on because we're like still expanding on what this
Speaker 9: guy's doing. But his name comes up in a very
Speaker 9: popular podcast series called the Telepathy Tapes, and it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 9: of course when I heard it, is like, yeah, of
Speaker 9: course he's involved with this. And I guess if you
Speaker 9: guys don't mind, we could kind of jump right into
Speaker 9: what he's what he's doing.
Speaker 5: So but we're just real quick that he was involved
Speaker 5: with the Telepathy Tapes.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not that he's involved with the Telepathy tapes.
Speaker 3: It's that he finds his way into the conversation and
Speaker 3: virtually every topic that maybe maybe the scientific community or
Speaker 3: the medical community would call pseudoscience, and as soon as
Speaker 3: you start delving into that realm, he pops up. You
Speaker 3: asked which one of us discovered it, and I was
Speaker 3: quick to say Top, But as Top was talking about it,
Speaker 3: it's more like he found us.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 4: It's really like, if you if you are looking at
Speaker 4: the truth of you know, the nature of the realm
Speaker 4: that we.
Speaker 3: Exist in, and you go back, you know, anywhere within
Speaker 3: the last hundred years, this guy is gonna pop up
Speaker 3: in some way, shape or form. We were kind of
Speaker 3: joking about him before the show, and in fact, he's
Speaker 3: even like I don't want to get the cart ahead
Speaker 3: of the wagon or whatever the expression is here. But
Speaker 3: we found out and I'm sure that you.
Speaker 4: Guys know this.
Speaker 3: He's associated with the actual tinfoil hat, Like this is
Speaker 3: the guy that popularized the notion of the tinfoil hat.
Speaker 3: He's kind of like the conspiracy community's mascot. And this
Speaker 3: is and uh, he's been right under our news.
Speaker 9: That's where he comes up in the telepathy tapes, not
Speaker 9: necessarily with the esoteric side of it. He comes up
Speaker 9: in the beginning of an episode, episode two. I believe
Speaker 9: they're talking about radio waves being frequencies that people can hear.
Speaker 9: And then they give an example of Lucile Ball. She
Speaker 9: goes and she has dental surgery and she starts picking
Speaker 9: up radio waves somewhere in Manhattan and right away, my
Speaker 9: radio wave antenna is up, and I'm like, what the
Speaker 9: fuck did you just say? So I'm listening, and then
Speaker 9: they go, oh, yeah, by the way, a doctor and
Speaker 9: driga pa. They call him a doctor scientist. He was
Speaker 9: developing this dental implant technology that would actually put these
Speaker 9: radio a radio wave signal into your head.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, voice to that technology, so go ahead,
Speaker 4: go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So the the reason we say it's related to the
Speaker 9: tinfoil hat is because there are like tangential stories of
Speaker 9: places where he may have been. And there's a guy
Speaker 9: that famously wrapped his head in tin because he was
Speaker 9: hearing voices in his head and the tin stopped it.
Speaker 9: So in this nursing home or a psychiatric facility that
Speaker 9: the guy was at, this is what he did, and
Speaker 9: the doctors allowed it and he said it helped them,
Speaker 9: so they're like fine. So the connotation of tinfoil hat
Speaker 9: kind of derives itself from there, but the origination is
Speaker 9: really this dude that probably is putting this stuff into
Speaker 9: his teeth. So yeah, it's the top.
Speaker 3: I actually remember too, the way that he came up
Speaker 3: in a big way on our radar was with Control
Speaker 3: Alt History. We had him on our show, right and
Speaker 3: he was talking about the Spirit Calm, which is a
Speaker 3: device that was created sometime in the eighties and it
Speaker 3: was like a reliable piece of technology that people were
Speaker 3: able to communicate with something that was you know, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, they just said was.
Speaker 4: Coming from the spirit realm.
Speaker 3: But what was happening was people were coming from far
Speaker 3: and wide to try to bunk it, and over and
Speaker 3: over again they were finding that it wasn't debunkable. And
Speaker 3: then I think that one of the main guys, I
Speaker 3: don't know if it was, it wasn't Pooh harridh somebody
Speaker 3: that was working intimately with it eventually ends up getting
Speaker 3: diagnosed with schizophrenia and his story ends pretty sadly. He's
Speaker 3: he's institutionalized, you know, for the rest of his days.
Speaker 3: So yeah, this whole thing is like he just keeps
Speaker 3: coming up anything that's fascinating, you know, like the Spirit
Speaker 3: Colm or like the tinfoil hat blocking these waves.
Speaker 4: It's like Pooharridge finds his way into the narrative somehow.
Speaker 1: So Poohrrich.
Speaker 8: When you look at his early work, his first book
Speaker 8: was The Sacred Mushroom, and he's actually using fly Garrick
Speaker 8: mushrooms to try to create telepathy. He actually built a
Speaker 8: far Day cage for two people to sit in so
Speaker 8: that they could, you know, test the properties, and he
Speaker 8: said there was a twenty five percent increase intelepathy within
Speaker 8: the Faraday cage. But he's you know, he's given speeches
Speaker 8: to the Department of Defense on like psychic spying. He's like,
Speaker 8: I mean, he's literally his laboratory comes straight out of
Speaker 8: the Roundtable Groups, which is basically linked back to Cecil
Speaker 8: Roads and you know, bringing America back under the wing
Speaker 8: of the British. It's he's just wrapped up in everything.
Speaker 4: I think what he's finding there is actually really fascinating.
Speaker 3: Right to put people in a Faraday cage and then
Speaker 3: to find that there's a twenty five percent increase in
Speaker 3: the success of being able to predict or read or
Speaker 3: you know, use some form of telepathy. I have my theories,
Speaker 3: and it's not like it's a profound one. I think
Speaker 3: a lot of us suspect that these abilities are innate
Speaker 3: to us one way or another. But I was speculating
Speaker 3: just on the phone with Top the other day that
Speaker 3: I think what's really going on here is that we're
Speaker 3: being stifled in so many different ways. So from the
Speaker 3: shit that they're sprying in the air to the things that.
Speaker 4: Are in our food.
Speaker 3: There's the old trope of fluoride corroding the pineal gland.
Speaker 3: But those waves right blue tooth and Wi Fi and
Speaker 3: all this different shit cell phone signals and radio waves.
Speaker 3: I imagine that because of the nature of the ability
Speaker 3: to read thoughts, which you know, I'm no expert on it,
Speaker 3: but it seems to be more so the ability to
Speaker 3: receive waves right waves and frequency that are being admitted
Speaker 3: by another person in the form of thought. Well, if
Speaker 3: there's a bunch of other crap, like I said, Bluetooth
Speaker 3: and Wi Fi and five G and all these different
Speaker 3: things bombarding you constantly, it's got to be hindering that
Speaker 3: exchange that maybe actually is innate to us in one
Speaker 3: way or another. So I find that fascinating that he
Speaker 3: actually found more success, and that kind of opens the
Speaker 3: door to which I think is still part of this
Speaker 3: conversation Rogan promoting these John C. Lilly sensory deprivation tanks.
Speaker 3: I kind of am looking at this like we're getting
Speaker 3: something very old and we're getting it repackaged and also
Speaker 3: inserted into the culture.
Speaker 8: Puharich also promotes the idea of the ice bath in
Speaker 8: regard to oh yeah, in regard to training the body
Speaker 8: to find the inner light to be able to bring
Speaker 8: about enlightenment.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was just gonna say, Nephelom Death Squad, Are
Speaker 2: you familiar with the Laurel Canyon at all?
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, they're manufacturing all of our cultural phenomenons, right, So.
Speaker 2: I actually I talk about it a lot. Obviously the
Speaker 2: cult rejects know this. But I came across Andrea Poohich
Speaker 2: in studying shit from the sixties, actually because he comes up.
Speaker 2: It was an episode I did about cults and Heaven's
Speaker 2: Gate came up. In something that was adjacent to the
Speaker 2: Heaven's Gate cult was this guy named Yuri Geller and
Speaker 2: Andrea pooh Harrich, and I did this whole fucking presentation
Speaker 2: on him. Dude, he was up to this shit in
Speaker 2: the sixties, just Laurel Canyon Day CIA fucking program to
Speaker 2: fucking AI extraterrestrial Like he was all about that shit.
Speaker 2: And it blew my mind when I first heard about him,
Speaker 2: because I just didn't hear a lot of other people
Speaker 2: talking about him at the time. But I'm so glad
Speaker 2: you guys know about it.
Speaker 9: It feels like our mascot, doesn't it. Yeah, right, right,
Speaker 9: He's fallen through the cracks in so many ways. So
Speaker 9: a little bit about his history. He's born in nineteen
Speaker 9: eighteen in Croatia. Heh. He actually dies in ninety five unexpectedly.
Speaker 9: He falls down a set of stairs and just dies
Speaker 9: like this, like really anti climactic wave, right, Such a
Speaker 9: fantastic life that this guy.
Speaker 4: Has up stumbled over his cat. Yeah, the cat made
Speaker 4: his eyelids.
Speaker 5: So what's about he didn't see that one coming, bro.
Speaker 9: Telepathy doesn't work on cats. The entities didn't tell you
Speaker 9: about that, right, uh so uh. He he had some
Speaker 9: military service and he knowined the Army Medical Corps in
Speaker 9: the fifties, and that's kind of when all of this
Speaker 9: starts off. He finds himself in Edgewood, Edgewood Arsenal and exactly.
Speaker 2: See Frank Frank zapA.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 9: So I don't even really need to go into this.
Speaker 9: Like I had went into a deep dive after I
Speaker 9: looked into Edgewood, and I'm like, this is an entire episode.
Speaker 9: This is an entire series of episodes. So he goes
Speaker 9: there and that's like, you know, people speculate that that
Speaker 9: could be the beginning of the mk Ultra program, different
Speaker 9: CIA programs that are starting from this one place. Yeah,
Speaker 9: he comes out, and I guess he writes that book
Speaker 9: soon after the No No. He writes that, like in
Speaker 9: the sixties, I believe, or just before nineteen sixty, the
Speaker 9: Sacred Mushroom, and he also does some telepathy studies. But
Speaker 9: before that, like when he comes out, one of the
Speaker 9: first things that he does is he meets a Indian
Speaker 9: mystic doctor name doctor Vanad. Doctor d G. Vanad is
Speaker 9: this guy's name, and uh, they they hit it off
Speaker 9: and they start to do their thing, and they start
Speaker 9: to channel some you know, just let's let's go. I
Speaker 9: guess that's what you do when you meet somebody, I
Speaker 9: don't know in the occult, you're like, let's fucking channel stuff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: I think you're beyond like going to you know, friendlies
Speaker 9: it doesn't you know, Like, what's the point of getting
Speaker 9: to occultists that are into telepathy together if you're going
Speaker 9: to just go and have a grand slam at Denny's,
Speaker 9: like you want to go and some entities now skip
Speaker 9: the four yeah. Yeah, so they just start summoning entities,
Speaker 9: I suppose. And one of the entities that comes to them, uh,
Speaker 9: it has a name, but it doesn't really give itself
Speaker 9: a name. It's it's identifying itself as nine other entities. Yeah.
Speaker 9: And the entities that it calls itself are atom shoot uh,
Speaker 9: ten food, ten foot, GiB nut nut, nice, osiris isis set,
Speaker 9: and Nephesis, which are the Yeah, these are the names
Speaker 9: of the Egyptian any Ad.
Speaker 3: These Egyptian any baby, right and nine. I was talking
Speaker 3: about it a little bit too, and I'm sure we'll
Speaker 3: end up getting into it. But on on TikTok there
Speaker 3: seems to be like this big renaissance, not a renaissance,
Speaker 3: I guess, renaissance in the way of like you know,
Speaker 3: going back to because these are old spiritual principles and
Speaker 3: old entities, but they're suddenly coming into the narrative again.
Speaker 3: There's a lady that I forget what her name is,
Speaker 3: would have been watching her on TikTok got Ouigi board
Speaker 3: like twenty years ago and was communicating with something. Her
Speaker 3: and her husband were and they had an ongoing dialogue
Speaker 3: with this thing for you know, two decades, and eventually
Speaker 3: they get a lot of information from it. It identifies
Speaker 3: itself as seven, which interestingly enough, there is on you
Speaker 3: can find a book called the Council of Nine or
Speaker 3: the Council of Saturn, and it's written by seven, and
Speaker 3: it has the same message that this seven has to
Speaker 3: this woman on TikTok and that message is more or
Speaker 3: less like, we have to spiritually ascend and we have
Speaker 3: to be careful because we're moving towards a calamity, some
Speaker 3: sort of a climate related earth affecting calamity.
Speaker 4: And this is the same thing that.
Speaker 3: Puharige got from the Ennead, Right, this is the same
Speaker 3: thing that you see it like over and over again.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing that the Galactic Confederation of Light
Speaker 3: is telling you. Right, it's this Council of Aliens that it.
Speaker 2: Reminds me of what's that book called that was Channel
Speaker 2: the Law of One Channel.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I.
Speaker 3: Because it is the same thing. It's this narrative has
Speaker 3: been repeating itself. So this is our contention on Nephelum
Speaker 3: Death Squad is that this is a masterful rebranding because
Speaker 3: much of the apparatus, like Hollywood or NASA or the
Speaker 3: scientific community, has been geared towards feeding us a narrative.
Speaker 3: And that narrative is that, you know, we are maybe
Speaker 3: not the smartest thing in the universe. There are things
Speaker 3: that are beyond us, and they're hyper advanced technologically speaking,
Speaker 3: and also in between like shooting lasers at us and
Speaker 3: destroying our cities and like the day the Earth stood
Speaker 3: still or something, there's this other narrative that begins to emerge,
Speaker 3: and that is they're going to help us ascend, and
Speaker 3: they're very concerned with us destroying ourselves and mutually assured
Speaker 3: nuclear destructions.
Speaker 9: So is let me let me I wrote down exactly
Speaker 9: what they what they're warning of. So they're warn of
Speaker 9: technology misuse like with nuclear weapons, environmental crises, and an
Speaker 9: impending shift in human consciousness towards enlightenment or collapse. So
Speaker 9: all these things are like kind of New Age ideas.
Speaker 9: Then they also talk about the galactic Federation of Light
Speaker 9: and all this stuff like you know, thousands of light
Speaker 9: years away and shit like that. Where you're here, you'll
Speaker 9: hear uh. I forget the names of these uh, these
Speaker 9: these Federation actors, but they're very upset with us and
Speaker 9: how we've been behaving on.
Speaker 4: Earth and how it created the planet.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And what I found interesting is that it's consistently
Speaker 9: the same message from that Puharich is getting that these
Speaker 9: other he he brings a couple of other psychics or
Speaker 9: people that are remote viewers remote viewers, and they are
Speaker 9: also channeling the Nine for about twenty plus years. It
Speaker 9: goes from like nineteen fifty to at least nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 9: And then whenever these programs they just stopped, they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 9: we just stopped, like we figured out what we needed.
Speaker 9: I have a you know, I don't fucking believe them,
Speaker 9: so it could.
Speaker 3: That's the same thing right when they say like, oh,
Speaker 3: the mk ulture program was real, but it's stopped, It's like, no,
Speaker 3: it's stopped because they realized it's successful and now they
Speaker 3: could roll it out to the masses. That's why it's stopped,
Speaker 3: because it's no longer a consolidated experimentation with one to
Speaker 3: two to three patients and a small crew that you're
Speaker 3: working with. This is now proven, it's a reliable method,
Speaker 3: and now it's time to roll it out to the
Speaker 3: masses in the form of you know, the gigantic propaganda machine.
Speaker 3: I think we actually talked about that with you a
Speaker 3: little bit, Nick, when you came on NETFLM des Squad.
Speaker 3: It was this idea that back in the day, they'd
Speaker 3: have to strap you to a chair, you know, work
Speaker 3: orange style after they kidnapped you from a whorehouse, and
Speaker 3: they'd peel your eyeballs open and they'd subject you to
Speaker 3: LSD and all of this subliminal messaging in this propaganda machine.
Speaker 4: They don't do that anymore.
Speaker 3: Now we're constantly inundating ourselves with a low grade psychedelic
Speaker 3: in the form of the marijuana that's been you know,
Speaker 3: it's had the THHD dialed up through the roof, and
Speaker 3: we're all constantly on this, like I said, low grade psychedelic,
Speaker 3: and we're all constantly just we've got it in our hands.
Speaker 3: Here's a little ultrure machine, right, it's just hitting us
Speaker 3: with all the propaganda and so yeah, it doesn't stop.
Speaker 4: They just say, oh it works, it's time to roll
Speaker 4: it out and get everybody hooked on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, you know, And it's crazy to think too,
Speaker 2: because there are a few names I can think of
Speaker 2: in particular that came off, like the Guya Network. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys are familiar with that, but
Speaker 2: like David will.
Speaker 5: Kok he was part of them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's he's big on the law of one
Speaker 2: and it's all the same stuff. And it's crazy because
Speaker 2: he talks about the same stuff poo Horrige talked about
Speaker 2: and Pooh Harrich was notorious for working with like the Pentagon,
Speaker 2: the CIA Naval Intelligence. So it's like, if you guys
Speaker 2: are going to believe this stuff about the Laurel Canyon
Speaker 2: and all that being like designed and fed to us,
Speaker 2: why not this narrative of these extraterrestrial bird featherhead beings
Speaker 2: coming back.
Speaker 3: And Okay, and that's even just stepped in something, Julia,
Speaker 3: you do this morning. This morning, I'm listening to a TikTok.
Speaker 3: My wife is showing me a TikTok of a guy
Speaker 3: who's He's like.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm gonna share it with you. Guys, I
Speaker 3: walked into the kitchen this morning and something happened. My
Speaker 3: head snapped back and my body became paralyzed, and I
Speaker 3: was suddenly transported to a different place. And this place
Speaker 3: is like a meeting, that's what he says. He's like,
Speaker 3: I don't know. It was like a boardroom, like a meeting.
Speaker 3: And then he goes, it was like like a council. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's funny. And then he goes, they're all talking about
Speaker 3: man kind and they're saying that people are waking up
Speaker 3: and the time is coming right and here gets freaked
Speaker 3: out and somehow manages to snap out of it, looks
Speaker 3: over to his little dog. He's back in his kitchen.
Speaker 3: His dog looks concerned. Next thing, you know, it starts
Speaker 3: happening again. He feels that his body gets hot. He
Speaker 3: snaps into it. His head's looking at the ceiling, and
Speaker 3: he is now once again transported to this council, to
Speaker 3: this meeting. And that's the conversation. It just happens again. Basically,
Speaker 3: it's female voices, male voices. It seems to be, you know,
Speaker 3: not that many people, and they're talking about mankind's ascension
Speaker 3: and that we're all waking up and the time is coming,
Speaker 3: and then they even go this one seems to be
Speaker 3: stronger than we thought.
Speaker 4: They always tell us that we're special. They always tell
Speaker 4: us its nothing.
Speaker 2: Well, that's how they sell it to you, because it
Speaker 2: have to be special.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I want to kind of bring it back for one
Speaker 3: second though, because Robbie said something earlier that was like,
Speaker 3: we mold over it.
Speaker 4: But you were saying that who was it that was
Speaker 4: using the ice bath a tech?
Speaker 8: That was that? Pooharridge, Yeah, pooharch In the Sacred Mushroom,
Speaker 8: he talks about the Siberian Shamans and how they would
Speaker 8: condition their bodies in order to be able to facilitate
Speaker 8: this astral travel, and one of the processes that he
Speaker 8: talks about is the ice bath.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is actually perfect because this is something
Speaker 3: that people aren't drawing a correlation to, and it's one
Speaker 3: of the correlations that we've drawn. I'm going to go
Speaker 3: ahead and say it, because there's more to what we're
Speaker 3: thinking about anyway, but this is a piece of it.
Speaker 4: And it's basically that.
Speaker 3: In the telepathy tapes, for example, they're studying nonverbal autistic
Speaker 3: children and we're on YouTube, so I'm going to use
Speaker 3: choice language here to not get you guys new. But
Speaker 3: there is a growing field of study that suggests that,
Speaker 3: you know, a certain medical intervention will lead to autism
Speaker 3: within children. And in fact, it's something that this administration
Speaker 3: is currently talking about. Right, And that's one thing. Let's
Speaker 3: put that on the table, right, we have autistic children,
Speaker 3: they become autistic. It's open to speculation, but eventually it
Speaker 3: leads to some sort of telepathic powers.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's go montalk project, let's go mk ultra. What
Speaker 4: are we doing here?
Speaker 3: We're studying the suggestibility but also the potentiality for like
Speaker 3: latent psychic abilities and people. But how are we doing this?
Speaker 3: How are we mind controlling people? How are we splitting
Speaker 3: the mind? How are we revealing latent psychic ability? It's
Speaker 3: through trauma, right, So you're looking at one form of trauma,
Speaker 3: in the form of innoculations. You're looking at another form
Speaker 3: of trauma. And like, let's say a sensationalized stranger things
Speaker 3: right where you're taking eleven and you're putting her through
Speaker 3: this thing so she develops these powers. Or you're in
Speaker 3: a nice bath and I know that doesn't sound too intense.
Speaker 3: But what they all equate to is disassociation. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a disassociation, a dissociative ID identity disorder that is at
Speaker 3: the root of being able to display these powers. Now,
Speaker 3: what I would say is that we've always been able
Speaker 3: to do it, but much like a blind person who's
Speaker 3: remaining senses become incredibly heightened, if you trap a child
Speaker 3: in their body because they're now nonverbal autistic, they're going
Speaker 3: to lean into whatever senses still exists for them that
Speaker 3: are available.
Speaker 4: So what we're seeing is weird because.
Speaker 3: The narrative is such I'm going trying to do this,
Speaker 3: so I'll give it away too much, but the narrative
Speaker 3: is becoming down syndrome and autism almost seem like the
Speaker 3: next step in human evolution. You might even call it ascension, right,
Speaker 3: And that's a weird narrative because to me, a lot
Speaker 3: of that is birthed out of some form of trauma,
Speaker 3: especially if we come to find out, you know, soon,
Speaker 3: because of RFK or something like that, that there really
Speaker 3: is something tremendously nefarious about these medical interventions that we
Speaker 3: give the children. It's a schedule that goes all the
Speaker 3: way up to like sixty some odd. You know, injections
Speaker 3: before there are a certain age, so sure it's different
Speaker 3: ice bath inoculations and and you know trauma based mind control,
Speaker 3: but trauma is the great connecting tissue. And somehow we
Speaker 3: are getting to this point in this narrative where like
Speaker 3: this is indicative of ascension, like these are these are
Speaker 3: advanced evolutionary processes that we're going through. Just anecdotally, yesterday,
Speaker 3: top Is is doing his other show. It's a comedy show,
Speaker 3: Tower Gang. The telepathy tapes comes up anecdotally, and every
Speaker 3: single person on the show besides top goes, you know what, dude,
Speaker 3: I think autistic people are down syndrome people are like evolved.
Speaker 3: They're like like evolved forms, like they're the next step
Speaker 3: in evolution.
Speaker 9: On the walls. I don't really know about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like, wouldn't it be something if we
Speaker 3: all had that ability. It's just been stifled and there's
Speaker 3: been a real long con to try to have it
Speaker 3: re merge under a different context.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure Elon would agree with you, because they're
Speaker 2: always saying what a genius he is, and he's talking autistic.
Speaker 4: And right right, right, all of our most genius people
Speaker 4: are autists of some sort.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Poohrrich he goes from that Sacred Mushroom book and
Speaker 8: then he writes Beyond Telepathy, which he's using mushrooms to
Speaker 8: basically try to bring about telepathy within people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really do think that there is some sort
Speaker 3: of narrative emerging. And you know, Poohrridge ended up leading
Speaker 3: us there. But all these different aspects all come to
Speaker 3: a cross roads. And that crossroad is like trauma based
Speaker 3: psychic abilities. But it's coming from everywhere, right, It's coming
Speaker 3: from like the MK culture program, it's coming from the
Speaker 3: you know, the the Montalk Project. If you believe in
Speaker 3: the version that we get from Stranger Things. I know
Speaker 3: that's a sensationalized, fictional, you know, piece of art, but
Speaker 3: I also understand that much truth is told in fiction,
Speaker 3: and that even the trope of like the little bald
Speaker 3: girl in the medical gown stems from stories of people
Speaker 3: that were like local and claim to have found like
Speaker 3: kids walking around and you know these once again, it's
Speaker 3: all anecdotal stories, but it all stems from some you know,
Speaker 3: nugget of truth. And I don't know, I've been feeling
Speaker 3: a lot lately like there is this big repackaging. We
Speaker 3: talked about it a little bit on Nephlun Death Squad. Well,
Speaker 3: let's wait with the both of you guys, go ahead,
Speaker 3: top he.
Speaker 9: Let's explain the repackaging part, because I feel like that's
Speaker 9: uh that this this might be like one of the
Speaker 9: unique things that we've seen from the heart stuff because
Speaker 9: you'll get information from everywhere, but the idea of the
Speaker 9: nine that he's channeling.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 9: They claim to be the Egyptian Anyad, and they give
Speaker 9: him these specific names. And we also know that like
Speaker 9: these entities, these age old entities don't particularly like being
Speaker 9: called by their actual name because then they can be controlled.
Speaker 9: You'll see it with like Solomon's temple. Will he'll have
Speaker 9: their sigil and then they'll draw circle around their sigil,
Speaker 9: meaning that they are now encapsulated in it, so they
Speaker 9: could I guess the idea would be that they could
Speaker 9: control it. I don't know, Nick, you might know better
Speaker 9: than I do about this kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, with the with the goatia, yeah, I think it's
Speaker 5: more or less of like with yourself. And I think
Speaker 5: the power of angels or angels help you will be
Speaker 5: able to render the demons. Yeah, you have the sigils.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you'll even wear them on your on your garb
Speaker 5: to even show that like I'm controlling.
Speaker 9: You, right right, So Uh, anyway, I guess it's a
Speaker 9: good point to bring it to, Like these guys don't
Speaker 9: really want you to know their names because there's a
Speaker 9: lot of power in their names, so they're constantly rebranding.
Speaker 9: And uh when we hear about the nine. This is
Speaker 9: another thing that started to clue me in about this nine.
Speaker 9: Like a heard it on Merkel Show. There's a guy
Speaker 9: doing a documentary about like Skinwalker Ranch and then he
Speaker 9: brings up this council of nine. And I'm like, all right,
Speaker 9: first time I heard it, and then it comes up again.
Speaker 9: You hear it in a well, obviously this the Egyptian Iniad,
Speaker 9: there's nine of them. Greek mythology, there's the nine Muses.
Speaker 9: In Norse mythology, you have the nine worlds like nil
Speaker 9: fime as Guard, mid Guard, shit like that. In Chinese mythology.
Speaker 9: Now I just started getting crazy with it and I
Speaker 9: started searching. I was like Chinese mythology nine. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 9: there's a nine dragons. They are the serpentine dragons that
Speaker 9: guide you throughout you know, into the afterlife. In Hindu mythology,
Speaker 9: you've got the Novgawa, the nine celestial bodies, which are
Speaker 9: they all have the same number and they all have
Speaker 9: the same characteristics meso American mythology. And then even satan
Speaker 9: throwing Satanism Levey and Satanism has their uh, their council
Speaker 9: of nine is their governing body that's below they're like a,
Speaker 9: I guess they're I don't know what they'd call their
Speaker 9: head person, but below them that in their church structure
Speaker 9: there are nine and they call them they sit on
Speaker 9: the council of nine. So I'm just like, yeah, of course,
Speaker 9: it's just fucking another thing to put in my pocket.
Speaker 9: Here with these entities and like the the veneration or
Speaker 9: this idea of nine, you also have. You know, Tesla
Speaker 9: is talking about three, six nine, So three is a
Speaker 9: I forget what that is. Six is the number of man,
Speaker 9: and nine is the number of like the ascension the stars. Right,
Speaker 9: So there there has to be something here that we're
Speaker 9: looking at that this number is significant, and it continues
Speaker 9: to pop up. The the description of these things, or
Speaker 9: at least the way that they behave are all the same,
Speaker 9: and what they're telling the people that they're coming in
Speaker 9: contact with is all the same stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is that one.
Speaker 3: Actually their shout out market mark was something that top
Speaker 3: and I heard that's a cult. Yeah, yeah, Well we
Speaker 3: have a buddy, jose Gallison, who does a lot of
Speaker 3: work on the order of nine Angles, and and we're
Speaker 3: just insisting, like, no, there's got to be a connection there.
Speaker 4: It's a satanic cult.
Speaker 3: They have their sigils and their signs and everything otherwise
Speaker 3: everything about them is inherently satanic right in the way
Speaker 3: that they present this this cult. But for some reason
Speaker 3: people don't think it has any thing to do with
Speaker 3: nine Angels. And I think there is really something there,
Speaker 3: but I kind of feel like the you know, just
Speaker 3: to go back to that rebranding thing. If these things
Speaker 3: really are age ol entities, well then I start to
Speaker 3: look at like NASA very skeptically, and everybody looks at
Speaker 3: NASA very skeptically, rightfully, so they do quite a bit
Speaker 3: of lying, right And so you know, Werner von Braun
Speaker 3: having been taken from Operation paper Clip Jack Parsons, he
Speaker 3: works over at Jet Propulsion Laboratories. They're hand in hand
Speaker 3: with NASA, and so you really can't separate that. Like
Speaker 3: I don't want to just say occultism. I want to
Speaker 3: say like seeking of spiritual knowledge from these technological industries
Speaker 3: like a NASA or something like that.
Speaker 4: And I look at those fourmentioned institutions, and.
Speaker 3: Then I look at Hollywood and how they've given us
Speaker 3: like this alien narrative over all these years.
Speaker 4: And then of course the way that.
Speaker 3: Plays with like Lamb and the Amalancha workings, and you know,
Speaker 3: Aleister Crowley communicating with these enig he's and they're all
Speaker 3: very in sexually connected. And I do just feel like
Speaker 3: what we've got here is a long con, a long
Speaker 3: con to rebrand them as what I was talking about before,
Speaker 3: our benign space brothers that are here to you know,
Speaker 3: liberate us.
Speaker 9: In one way, that theme pops up as well. We
Speaker 9: start to get like pretty intergalactic space traveler stuff. When
Speaker 9: he meets Uri Geller, when he brings them over from
Speaker 9: Israel in the seventies. That's when we get this UFO boom,
Speaker 9: and Uri Geller apparently is able to summon I think
Speaker 9: I don't know much about you, Yella. He's able to
Speaker 9: summon UFO.
Speaker 1: So he's so Uri Yeller.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 8: In the Israeli military. He was inducted as an Israeli spy.
Speaker 8: He has you know, you just have to wonder because
Speaker 8: the links between all the spy networks and the UFO
Speaker 8: and then the drugs as far as the different hallucinogens,
Speaker 8: and how they're kind of piling all these things into
Speaker 8: you know, one kind of programming unit.
Speaker 2: He was supposedly able to bend spoons as well and
Speaker 2: had some kind of telepathic power. And from what I know,
Speaker 2: Uri Geller and Andrea were besties, but they also had
Speaker 2: a bestI named Peter Herkos, who was also a supposed
Speaker 2: psychic to the stars, and he was in and about
Speaker 2: the Laurel Canyon and Roman Polanski actually asked Peter Herkos
Speaker 2: to come investigate the Tate murders to see who the
Speaker 2: real murderer was, Like we didn't all know it was
Speaker 2: fucking Cia Charles Manson. But anyways, Peter Herkos was called
Speaker 2: in on that, and then later on they found out
Speaker 2: that Uri, Andrea and Peter Herkos were all tight with
Speaker 2: Anton Levy. So if you want to talk about some
Speaker 2: you know, propaganda, Satanism, angle of nine, whatever that I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's all tied together.
Speaker 4: It's so funny how all these guys were friends.
Speaker 3: I just wish I could be a fly in the
Speaker 3: wall during those few decades where I could see these guys,
Speaker 3: because it's such a small world. Like you, I don't know,
Speaker 3: you learn about these guys independently, and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you find this connective tissue when you realize, yeah,
Speaker 3: they're all hanging in the same circles, and they're all
Speaker 3: doing and they kind of all birthed our modern day
Speaker 3: intelligence operations that were still subjected.
Speaker 2: To times one hundred one hundred.
Speaker 8: So interestingly, when you look at your yeller and all
Speaker 8: the you know, he would change the hands on the
Speaker 8: watch in front of people. He would make things disap
Speaker 8: like one time he was looking at a Darryner pistol
Speaker 8: and it disappeared in front of him. But the the
Speaker 8: entities that they were commune that you're a yeller was
Speaker 8: communicating with being this this body of nine. They were saying,
Speaker 8: they're in the future, they're planning these events hundreds of
Speaker 8: thousands of years ahead of time. And just and it's
Speaker 8: interesting because he talks about poo Haich talks about getting
Speaker 8: engulfed in a beam of light and that there was
Speaker 8: no time and it was essentially like, you know, only
Speaker 8: the things that were moved in time were the differences
Speaker 8: we see, and that very much compliments what Philip K.
Speaker 8: Dick saw with the beam of light and thinking that
Speaker 8: it was still.
Speaker 1: The fall of Rome and modern time.
Speaker 8: And then that gets into the black Night satellite because
Speaker 8: oh yeah, because well it was this idea that this
Speaker 8: pink beam shot down from this black light satellite that
Speaker 8: kind of programmed Philip K. Dick, right, whereas Pooh Horrich
Speaker 8: talks about this this beam that he's engulfed in, and
Speaker 8: he also talks about an eight thousand year old satellite
Speaker 8: that was put in place that's circling the Earth that's programming.
Speaker 1: So both Philip K.
Speaker 8: Dick and Poo Harrich are both and they're both tied
Speaker 8: in with mk ulture. They're both tied in with a
Speaker 8: lot of this, you know, similar type stuff.
Speaker 3: Did you see that recently there was a I don't know,
Speaker 3: I've tried to validate it and it's you know, it's
Speaker 3: just one of those things that's a little bit slippery.
Speaker 4: But there's a video going around.
Speaker 3: It's going viral on x right now and it's allegedly
Speaker 3: a leak from twenty eighteen from NASA of another POV
Speaker 3: of the Black Night satellite, and it actually moves right
Speaker 3: beneath the space station or whatever.
Speaker 4: So you get this really elongated you know pov.
Speaker 3: It's like an eight minute video, I think, And the
Speaker 3: thing is in the distance, it's very small, but eventually
Speaker 3: it passes underneath, and it is incredibly symmetrical. If this
Speaker 3: is real, it's incredibly symmetrical. It looks exactly like a ship,
Speaker 3: like it looks like something would occupy it. It doesn't
Speaker 3: look like, you know, a kind of a chaotic rock structure,
Speaker 3: not at all. It looks just like a ship. It
Speaker 3: looks like a really cool ship designed from like a
Speaker 3: sci fi film. And so I just find that fascinating
Speaker 3: that if that is real, it seems like the Black
Speaker 3: Knight satellite is making a re emergence in sort of
Speaker 3: the conspiracies geist.
Speaker 7: Right, didn't Whenever Barrage was writing the Mushroom book, he
Speaker 7: was in Wahaka and he was actually doing rituals with
Speaker 7: the Chanitos or.
Speaker 1: Just so now interesting, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 7: So the Chanitos, I think they're from Wahaka, and I
Speaker 7: believe in some of the stuff that we have read.
Speaker 7: They believe in like a father, son, mother moon or
Speaker 7: something like that, which is which looking at some of
Speaker 7: the oldest grim wares, that's some of the bases of
Speaker 7: the hermeticism and alchemical theories, and the fact that theos
Speaker 7: are I'm probably saying that wrong. The fact that they
Speaker 7: kind of have that ritual pre dates some of well
Speaker 7: obviously pre Columbian, right, but it preates a lot of
Speaker 7: the stuff with alchemical stuff, so they're they're also doing that,
Speaker 7: and then to have Barage doing that. But what's interesting
Speaker 7: with your nine is at the Michika, which are the Aztecs,
Speaker 7: they have a concept of nine lords of the Night.
Speaker 7: I think it has smoking mirror or a lord of
Speaker 7: fire all that stuff, and then they also have the
Speaker 7: nine underworld as well. But they didn't believe in a hell.
Speaker 7: They just believe in a lower type of dimensions.
Speaker 2: Like Dante's Inferno type shit, like there's seven like nine
Speaker 2: layers or something like. It's more I think.
Speaker 7: It's like the lowest the lowest heaven was like on
Speaker 7: the moon or something like that. It has they don't
Speaker 7: have a part, they don't have a concept of hell.
Speaker 7: They just have levels of dimensions.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about Wall Hawka, Mexico? You were talking,
Speaker 2: that's what you were talking about, which I came across
Speaker 2: something about that where there they were really into like
Speaker 2: blood letting and ship and like blood rituals, and so
Speaker 2: that makes sense. They're practicing some dark stuff too.
Speaker 7: And Wajaka is central Mexico, and this is where a
Speaker 7: majority of all of your top tier belief systems will
Speaker 7: venture to. More Manzime, Yeah, go down to not specifically
Speaker 7: this space space in Mexico, but to that that region
Speaker 7: of South Mexico.
Speaker 2: It's like a granddaddy religion type of basic pillar. Sure. Well,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say real quick too, because I
Speaker 2: pulled up my notes from when I covered this guy
Speaker 2: and he was investigating some type of low frequency radiation
Speaker 2: beam that the Soviet Union had been testing. And he said,
Speaker 2: oh okay, I was going to say, he said it
Speaker 2: did all kinds of crazy shit, and I think there's
Speaker 2: still probably using it.
Speaker 9: Let's bring it in, let's fuck it, I mean as well.
Speaker 8: So before we move on, I want to I want
Speaker 8: to talk about Pouharch and the Watcher in the mushrooms.
Speaker 8: He Arch was going to the New York Library and
Speaker 8: he was researching mushrooms and the librarian was like, Oh,
Speaker 8: that's weird. There's only one other guy that's researching mushrooms,
Speaker 8: and that's Gordon Wasson. And Gordon Wasson was the guy
Speaker 8: that went down to South America on the mk ultra ticket.
Speaker 8: We have the receipts for all that with Albert Hoffman,
Speaker 8: who Pukarch was training under they talk about in the
Speaker 8: Uri Yeller book, and basically they were getting those mushrooms
Speaker 8: specifically for the beginnings of mkultra. So it's all tied in. Yeah,
Speaker 8: so it was going down there in the fifties, fifty two,
Speaker 8: fifty five. But Gordon Wasson, he ended up writing the
Speaker 8: first article on using psychedelic mushrooms that the Loose Brothers
Speaker 8: who were tied in with the military industrial Complex basically
Speaker 8: promoted through Life magazine as the beginning of mk ultra.
Speaker 8: And you know, there's a cover and it says what
Speaker 8: it says something teenage allowances or something like that, and
Speaker 8: then that says, you know, something South American mushrooms. But yeah,
Speaker 8: this is all tied in with mk ultra and the
Speaker 8: intelligence services and again.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a.
Speaker 3: Beautiful because it's just to reiterate it. I don't worry,
Speaker 3: I'm not going out of tangent top, but just to
Speaker 3: reiterate it, just the idea that this guy is almost
Speaker 3: in some ways the inception of the machine that's you know,
Speaker 3: geared towards us right now. I would argue that in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, we're seeing the culmination of all of
Speaker 3: that work, all those generations, all those decades of work.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 9: So look, you mentioned Philip K. Dick, and I was like,
Speaker 9: I have him in my notes as well. He's an author,
Speaker 9: a sci fi author. He claims to have been abducted.
Speaker 9: I guess they always are a sci fi author, aren't they.
Speaker 9: El Rod Hubbard the most prolific, Yeah, Steve, Yeah, he's
Speaker 9: sort of a prophet, yeah, monocracy.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: He gets that nosis from a pink ray of light,
Speaker 9: which you said that Buharich also experience. But here's what's interesting.
Speaker 9: All of his experiences are triggered by you'll never guess
Speaker 9: what a fucking dental surgery. Ah, he gets it. He
Speaker 9: gets a dental surgery. All of a sudden, he kind
Speaker 9: of starts going off the rails. And getting these I
Speaker 9: don't know downloads where he's writing these books. Now I
Speaker 9: have a theory as well with this dental surgery stuff.
Speaker 9: I started to look into l Ron Hubbard, who's sort
Speaker 9: of connected in this kind of like loosely connected. Yeah,
Speaker 9: So I was like, how did scientology start? I was like, well,
Speaker 9: el Ron Hubbard, and like, you know, right right before
Speaker 9: the fifties, he he almost died. Guess what he was doing.
Speaker 9: He was having fucking dental surgery. And then after that
Speaker 9: he came back with all these cosmic truths and created
Speaker 9: this religion. Now that it's kind of like basically a
Speaker 9: honeypop for celebrity. So I'm like, I don't know where
Speaker 9: to put that, but it's certainly floating around in my
Speaker 9: in my mind as we continue to like move move
Speaker 9: forward with the story. Other thing before we get to
Speaker 9: the ELF waves, the extra extremely low frequency waves I
Speaker 9: guess you'd call them in South America. In Brazil. Uh,
Speaker 9: he comes up again, doctor doctor Andrejapuharich. Because there's a
Speaker 9: guy named doctor Arago. He's a his name is Jose
Speaker 9: Pedro de Freitas. Uh, that's what he was born as
Speaker 9: in the twenties in Brazil. He was a taxi driver
Speaker 9: and he had no formal medical training or he didn't
Speaker 9: have a license, nothing like that. Around the fifties, he
Speaker 9: claims that he channels this German, this dead German surgeon
Speaker 9: named doctor Fritz, and he starts performing surgeries while he's
Speaker 9: in this trance state. They call him the doctor of
Speaker 9: the Rusty Knife, because he's successfully taking out people's tumors.
Speaker 9: He's giving he's just like looking at them, giving them advice,
Speaker 9: and people from all around Brazil are coming to see
Speaker 9: this guy. He eventually gets shut down by the Brazilian government.
Speaker 9: But from what I've heard and what I've said, there's
Speaker 9: video of him doing stuff. He healed a blind girl.
Speaker 9: But of course during his uh, during his uh, you know,
Speaker 9: little tenure there as a doctor, and when he stepped
Speaker 9: away from the taxi driving business, Andreja Puharas pays him
Speaker 9: a visit, right, and it was under his studies. He says, yeah,
Speaker 9: this guy's legit. He's doing uh, he's doing the right thing.
Speaker 3: And then Poohara kind of becomes like a nick Fury, right,
Speaker 3: he's like gathering the psychic avengers.
Speaker 8: He cut a like a two inch by four inch
Speaker 8: tumor out of his arm and then basically no antibiotics,
Speaker 8: no nothing, told him don't worry about it, and healed
Speaker 8: up just fine.
Speaker 1: So they say, yeah, it's yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know what, I think a lot of the the we
Speaker 3: touched on it before, right, Julia, you said it. It's like,
Speaker 3: in order to get you to do this thing, they
Speaker 3: have to convince you that you're special. A lot of
Speaker 3: the people, it's like, you're you're struck by this profound experience.
Speaker 3: Here in the West, we tell you that pay no
Speaker 3: mind to the spiritual realm, and there are many of
Speaker 3: us who don't even believe that it exists. Certainly, scientism has,
Speaker 3: you know, materialism has gripped all of our industries that
Speaker 3: would stand any chance at like detecting a spiritual realm.
Speaker 3: And so you start from a place of not even
Speaker 3: you know, this shit doesn't exist. Then when you have
Speaker 3: an experience because you don't believe that it was real previously,
Speaker 3: it's incredibly profound, and you mistake that profound experience as
Speaker 3: this must then be the truth. So on Nephlin Desquad.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a Christian show, and we do caution people.
Speaker 3: And the reason that we caution people. It's not like
Speaker 3: we're sitting here like crystals are evil, or remote viewing
Speaker 3: is evil, or actual projection is evil. No, actually, I
Speaker 3: think these are natural things that you know, exist within
Speaker 3: the human condition and also exist within the realm that
Speaker 3: we inhabit. The thing is, we've been stripped of the
Speaker 3: map we used to understand these things to a much
Speaker 3: higher degree. If you go into the ocean or you
Speaker 3: go into the woods, you know that you're going to
Speaker 3: find a plethora of things. Clownfish are pretty cool, coral
Speaker 3: reef don't touch them. It's beautiful, but don't touch them.
Speaker 3: You'll destroy them. Also, stay the hell away from sharks, right,
Speaker 3: And the same thing with the woods, chipmunks, all that shit.
Speaker 3: It's adorable. You could forage, you could find plant life.
Speaker 3: Watch out for bears and their cubs. You don't want
Speaker 3: to be near them. Well, imagine if bears were like
Speaker 3: thousands of years old and incredibly intelligent and know way
Speaker 3: more about you than you know about them, and they
Speaker 3: know exactly how to deceive you.
Speaker 5: That is the problem.
Speaker 3: The spiritual realm is filled with a plethora of different entities,
Speaker 3: let's just call them entities. Some of them aren't the
Speaker 3: biggest fans of us, and some of them are excellent
Speaker 3: at deception, excellent at deception, and all it takes, it
Speaker 3: turns out, is to just tell us that.
Speaker 4: We're special, and then that's fucking it. We'll fall for
Speaker 4: whatever it is.
Speaker 3: So show us something shock and awe, and then tell
Speaker 3: us that the reason that we saw it, the reason
Speaker 3: that we perceived it, is because we're unique, we're special,
Speaker 3: we're meant for something, and then you have us. We're
Speaker 3: so simple in that way. So, like I said, it's
Speaker 3: a Christian show. We're not just blanketly dismissing things as evil.
Speaker 3: We're cautioning dummies who don't have a map of the
Speaker 3: spiritual realm, who up until very recently didn't think that
Speaker 3: it existed at all. And I would even say that
Speaker 3: our understanding has been stripped purposefully so that we could
Speaker 3: repackage and rebrand and ship it back out to the
Speaker 3: people under a different context.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I consider myself a Christian, so I'm
Speaker 2: right there with you guys. And I've had people talk
Speaker 2: to me about zodiac stuff and you know, taro and crystals,
Speaker 2: and I mean, if anything, you can just maybe say
Speaker 2: that they can be tools in your tool bag. But
Speaker 2: they're not supposed to be worshiped. They're not supposed to
Speaker 2: become religion in any way. But it gets all like
Speaker 2: cloudy and weird, you know, because everything's like demonized, which
Speaker 2: I try not to do, but I guess the whole
Speaker 2: thing is like they operate on a basis of ancient
Speaker 2: knowledge that we are completely unaware of. And if you
Speaker 2: read the Bible at any length, you're going to find
Speaker 2: magic all throughout the Bible. But they understood the like
Speaker 2: the Keys of Solomon and stuff like this. It's in there,
Speaker 2: but you have to understand it. And you know, I
Speaker 2: don't understand the Keys of Solomon, but obviously he did.
Speaker 2: And it's like Nick said, he had like the sigils
Speaker 2: and the angels and he had all this stuff. But
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's such a rabbit hole really when
Speaker 2: think about it, and it's been weaponized against us, like
Speaker 2: we could learn this stuff. Go ahead.
Speaker 4: Uh, there's actually two major problems with it.
Speaker 3: One is the one that I just laid out, where
Speaker 3: they can deceive us, But the other one is like, well,
Speaker 3: what happens if you really do know your shit? What
Speaker 3: happens if you really are clever enough to navigate this.
Speaker 3: What happens if you become so adept that you can
Speaker 3: create sigils and trap these ancient entities into doing your bidding.
Speaker 3: Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely, that's what's wrong with it. So
Speaker 3: it's like a losing battle either way. It's like I
Speaker 3: would say, arm yourself with the knowledge, and you know,
Speaker 3: if you're going to go and explore these things, I
Speaker 3: would recommend going with Jesus Christ because literally, we have
Speaker 3: authority over scorpions and serpients serpents through his name. So
Speaker 3: I take that as to mean we have authority through
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ's name, almost like a spell over these entities
Speaker 3: that inhabit these realms if.
Speaker 4: They are in fact negative.
Speaker 3: But on the other end of it, if you just
Speaker 3: go too far, well then you're gonna Hey, what happens
Speaker 3: when human beings figure out that we can identify the
Speaker 3: building blocks of this realm and then we can manipulate them.
Speaker 4: It's like, what's the building blocks?
Speaker 3: Oh way, Well, it's sacred geometry, it's symbolism, it's numerology,
Speaker 3: it's all these different things.
Speaker 5: They are real.
Speaker 3: They are just like it's more of an observation of
Speaker 3: the nature of our realm. But once we are aware
Speaker 3: that they're there, there are going to be huge swaths
Speaker 3: of us that seek to manipulate that. And then what
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, So it's like, I understand
Speaker 3: why we're cautioned against it. I don't think any of
Speaker 3: us are equipped to have that kind of power and
Speaker 3: to not use it to our own benefit. And that's
Speaker 3: where everything starts to go wrong. So it's you know,
Speaker 3: I just wanted to put that out there because I
Speaker 3: know a lot of Christians will just dismiss these things
Speaker 3: of like of the devil. I don't even think that's true.
Speaker 3: I don't think these entities can create. I think that's
Speaker 3: why they commission us constantly. They inspire us as the muses.
Speaker 3: They whisper to us, they nudge us, they give us ideas,
Speaker 3: and then we create them create.
Speaker 4: They can't crash.
Speaker 2: That's exactly it. You're crushing it. That's exactly how I
Speaker 2: feel too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they but what they do is they corrupt
Speaker 3: and they invert. So they will take spiritual principles and
Speaker 3: laws that the creator put here, who created this universe,
Speaker 3: and they will twist them in a way and obfuscate
Speaker 3: their meeting and and bastardize the intention of why they're
Speaker 3: there in the first place.
Speaker 2: Well, if you look at cult leaders, that's the first
Speaker 2: thing they do, make you feel special, do your little
Speaker 2: magic trick, and then the next thing, you know, your
Speaker 2: drink and flavor aid. Somewhere on Jonas Town.
Speaker 4: They also love bomb you. Right, they love bombing you, right,
Speaker 4: I'm right. That is like the galactic Federation of Light.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you ever. They're like dear ones.
Speaker 4: That's how they start.
Speaker 3: They call you ones, like we are all the one.
Speaker 3: That's just like a how do we convince like all
Speaker 3: of them that they're special? Just just call them all ones?
Speaker 3: And I know that don't make any God, just call
Speaker 3: them all ones.
Speaker 4: And so that's what they do.
Speaker 9: They start off.
Speaker 4: They're like dear ones. And it's always like this, I
Speaker 4: don't love anybody that I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just sorry. That's just how I am. I might
Speaker 3: like you, I might wish you well, but I don't
Speaker 3: love anybody that I don't know, not in a real
Speaker 3: intimate way. So whenever somebody comes over, I've watched love bombing.
Speaker 3: My wife used to be a Jehovah witness and she
Speaker 3: tells me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you first show up, they like celebrate you,
Speaker 4: like you made the best decision and your special and
Speaker 4: that's why you're here. You're one of the one hundred
Speaker 4: and forty four thousand that are gonna be whisked away,
Speaker 4: you know, and go with Jesus when the when the
Speaker 4: time comes.
Speaker 3: And it's like everything is about making you special. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's a it's a way to let your guard down,
Speaker 3: and it's it's almost embarrassing that we keep.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, something that Nick said to me one time that's
Speaker 2: always stuck with me is, didn't don't they say and
Speaker 2: like occultism or something, I'm a man among men, Like
Speaker 2: they make that distinction like you're special, you're a man
Speaker 2: above men or something like that. Isn't that right, Nick?
Speaker 5: Yes? Yeah, even in the Gnostic mess guys says I'm
Speaker 5: a man of movement.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What I find significant about that is it's kind of
Speaker 3: the opposite of what the Bible tells you. The Bible
Speaker 3: tells you that you're kind of a sinful retard, and like, look,
Speaker 3: I don't know about anybody else, but I know all
Speaker 3: the ways in which I'm flawed. And that's kind of
Speaker 3: why we lead with this like.
Speaker 4: Retard catch line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you can call it humble. I mean
Speaker 3: it's weird because in some ways we aren't humble. But
Speaker 3: I'm acutely aware that I don't know shit, right, I
Speaker 3: don't know shit, and that because I don't know shit,
Speaker 3: I am easily deceived, and so I have to stave
Speaker 3: that off. There's a lot of people you guys, know,
Speaker 3: you like you do a show and like the audience
Speaker 3: because you say something.
Speaker 4: That aligns with them. They're like, You're great, You're killing it.
Speaker 4: This is important. I'm like, I don't know if it's important.
Speaker 3: I know that I'm retarded and maybe sometimes I say
Speaker 3: some good shit, but other than that, that's as far
Speaker 3: as I'm willing to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: And as a conspiracy theory, you almost have to believe
Speaker 2: that everybody's out to get you at some point.
Speaker 4: I mean I do.
Speaker 2: I'm like, everyone's lying to me, this is all a conspiracy.
Speaker 2: The government is involved. Get away from me. I hold
Speaker 2: everyone at like arms distance now because you just don't.
Speaker 2: I can't even listen to music anymore, especially Laurel Canyon stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like, God, I just want to shoot myself in there.
Speaker 3: To hear it.
Speaker 4: Everything has a message, everything has a way it wants
Speaker 4: me to be.
Speaker 3: I want to move you guys everything, because you guys
Speaker 3: all have a really unique perspective, and and you know,
Speaker 3: typically we're the host, we don't get to uh you know,
Speaker 3: I guess, well here, let me put it to you
Speaker 3: this way. Earlier on in the show, I said that
Speaker 3: it's strange that like Rogan is he's pushing these float tanks.
Speaker 4: We know that that's from John C.
Speaker 8: Lilly.
Speaker 3: It was jerking off dolphins and and we know that
Speaker 3: MK Ultra took a big interest in his work, right,
Speaker 3: and it's very much the same thing. It's it's sensory deprivation,
Speaker 3: but it's also lsd or aychaedelics, and so Rogan injects
Speaker 3: that into the culture and there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: By the way, there's so many sensory deprivation tank wellness
Speaker 3: centers I don't know what you would call them that
Speaker 3: attribute their inspiration to Joe Rogan. And he says that,
Speaker 3: so we know that this is true.
Speaker 4: Thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, what else has he done? He's also highly popularized.
Speaker 3: I mean, he is responsible for swaths of white people
Speaker 3: going to the jungle and doing ayahuascar, right, I mean
Speaker 3: swaths and swaths and also you know dimethyl trip to mean.
Speaker 3: And he's done a strange thing where he's introduced these
Speaker 3: two spiritual, very very spiritual things into the cultural zeitgeist.
Speaker 3: But he's removed the spirituality from it. He doesn't really
Speaker 3: talk about that, right, It's more like, well, what about
Speaker 3: the psychological benefits. You know people that are yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: what about anxiety? What about depression? What about PTSD? These
Speaker 3: things can help, right, So he's done that. But also
Speaker 3: the dude is responsible for taking the Telepathy tapes from
Speaker 3: a rather unknown podcast to number one in the world,
Speaker 3: number one in the world. They beat him, they took
Speaker 3: his slot. Joe Rogan was number one for the longest time,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, and then when you start to
Speaker 3: look into the telepathy tapes, just given what I said before,
Speaker 3: right about the Montalk project, about MK Ultra, this is
Speaker 3: all trauma based mind control and latent psychic abilities, right,
Speaker 3: that's the name of the game.
Speaker 4: Why is the.
Speaker 3: Biggest show in the world and so arguably one of
Speaker 3: the most culturally impactful shows in the world. Repackaging and
Speaker 3: giving us MK ultra narratives.
Speaker 8: I think it's interesting because when you go back to
Speaker 8: the ideas of the Dionysian acting schools and the beginning
Speaker 8: of theater, and the idea of like there's a whole
Speaker 8: class of actors with Robert de Nio, Danny DeVito that
Speaker 8: basically were in this acting school where they and Johnny
Speaker 8: depuc It too, where they basically become the character and
Speaker 8: they embody that character.
Speaker 4: But they're possessed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: But one of the tenets of that acting school is
Speaker 8: the idea that you're not necessarily teaching people through the
Speaker 8: play itself, but by the nuance of the character and
Speaker 8: who the character is themselves and how they view the world,
Speaker 8: kind of like holding Cawfield, you know, within Catcher and
Speaker 8: the Rye. But it's this idea of teaching through subtlety
Speaker 8: and nuance, so you're teaching through who the character themselves
Speaker 8: are rather than what they're projecting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I see that a lot. Joe Rogan does
Speaker 3: that masterfully. Actually, if you ever pay attention to the
Speaker 3: way that he himself will not espouse a certain theory,
Speaker 3: not that often at least. Instead, what he'll play is
Speaker 3: like the unwilling participant in a dialogue where he starts
Speaker 3: off skeptically and then leads his guest into a way
Speaker 3: where they shine, right, they crush, He'll set them up
Speaker 3: and let him knock it out of the park. And
Speaker 3: then by the end of it, he's still not too sure,
Speaker 3: but he's done the job right. So to the audience,
Speaker 3: you're almost sitting there going, what do you mean, Rogan? Look,
Speaker 3: didn't you listen to what this guy just said? He
Speaker 3: said all the things, but he's allowed he's setting up
Speaker 3: a set of circumstances for you to respond that way, right,
Speaker 3: So you look at him almost frustrated.
Speaker 4: Why aren't you seeing this thing?
Speaker 3: There was a time where Rogan used to talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever it is flat Earth or you know,
Speaker 3: Pizzagate or something like that, and then he stops it.
Speaker 3: Now he's reemerging with those concepts he just had, like
Speaker 3: Ian carol on and all this other shit, and I
Speaker 3: just think that he is. You're right, Robbie, It's not
Speaker 3: like we were not as receptive to somebody that walks
Speaker 3: out onto the stage and does a ted talk. Instead,
Speaker 3: we're more receptive to somebody who we perceive as on
Speaker 3: our level intellectually, or maybe even beneath us intellectually, and
Speaker 3: then you watch them receive the information, and in a way,
Speaker 3: it's like a stand in for you, Like Joe Rogan
Speaker 3: is a stand in for the audience. And if Joe
Speaker 3: Rogan can be convinced or inundated with information, then it's
Speaker 3: you know, it's happening to you too, and it's happening
Speaker 3: to the tune of millions of people.
Speaker 7: Well if he's always interjected. Raven, Joe Rogan and Nick
Speaker 7: did a show on this. Joe Rogan got his start
Speaker 7: from Aubrey Marcus and it was Aubrey Mark who actually
Speaker 7: inserted the idea of psychedelics going in South America and
Speaker 7: doing all that. Look at Aubrey Marcus's dad, he has
Speaker 7: ties Stanford Esslon as well as all of those think
Speaker 7: tanks as well. So that's the connection that then and
Speaker 7: then as well as not only his dad, but his
Speaker 7: dad had passed away. But you have Stanford and you
Speaker 7: have psychedelic startup companies that have a lot of ties
Speaker 7: to the current administration's funders.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, a lot all the time too, because it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I say it all the
Speaker 2: time because people It's like people forget that he is
Speaker 2: an actor. But it's like this guy he used to
Speaker 2: host Fear Factory, Right, he is an actor. He used
Speaker 2: to host freaking fear Factory. Okay, So how is this
Speaker 2: guy who used to host this show getting people to
Speaker 2: get supplements and put stuff into their body? I don't
Speaker 2: even get that. Like, before I really got on the
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan thing, he got me because I was like,
Speaker 2: I need to be taking these medicinal mushrooms and I
Speaker 2: got like mushroom coffee and mushroom tinkstures, and Joe Rogan
Speaker 2: said Joe Rogan, Well, who the hell is Joe Roe
Speaker 2: He used to host Fear Factory, Like this guy is
Speaker 2: a nobody?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Are they trying to sell all these mushroom products to
Speaker 8: institute and bring about philepathy and people?
Speaker 2: Man, it's just weird to me, you know. And he's
Speaker 2: he's like the top dog on him and it's like
Speaker 2: used code Joe Rogan to, you know, get this stuff
Speaker 2: and put it in your body. Like who are you, dude?
Speaker 7: Who's the are you coming from from the start up
Speaker 7: of a re Marcus?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, from Haunting? Yeah, dude, I literally take.
Speaker 3: All the shit that I talk about Joe Rogan. I
Speaker 3: literally take Alpha brain every I don't miss it. It
Speaker 3: goes into every show. I also take stupid fucking mushroom supplements.
Speaker 3: I don't think they do. It need to be perfectly honest,
Speaker 3: I don't. But I take like a litany of shit.
Speaker 3: I take like vitamin C B twelve complex, a bunch
Speaker 3: of shit, Alpha brain, fake mushroom crap. I'm sure, uh yeah,
Speaker 3: and that was massively inspired by Joe Rogan. I don't
Speaker 3: think that there's a way to pin down and actually
Speaker 3: show somebody. Maybe one day we will. We'll have a
Speaker 3: graph or something to just show the impact that that
Speaker 3: show has had on Western culture.
Speaker 4: It's parked insane.
Speaker 3: I mean, he gave birth essentially to the entire podcasting genre.
Speaker 3: I know other people came before him and were podcasting
Speaker 3: rather successfully before him, but whatever Rogan did, he changed
Speaker 3: it permanently. And I just see a reintroduction of uh,
Speaker 3: you know, Eastern mysticism and all these different uh you
Speaker 3: know ideas into into Western culture. And my thing is, like,
Speaker 3: you know, once again going back to the idea that
Speaker 3: we're a Christian show, we don't look at like, okay,
Speaker 3: if there are negative entities out there, they're not going
Speaker 3: to present as like a cliche horn demon with a
Speaker 3: pitchfork like oftentimes, they're going to be very charming. You
Speaker 3: just have to imagine anything that's been able to exist
Speaker 3: in some way, shape or form for thousands of years
Speaker 3: is really good at what it does. It's really charming.
Speaker 3: It's really like I don't know, it just feels good
Speaker 3: to communicate with, Like everything about it would feel good.
Speaker 3: Human beings make excellent conment. Why wouldn't ancient you know,
Speaker 3: non physical entities make excellent convent. So that's really my
Speaker 3: whole shit is, like everything is about going into this
Speaker 3: realm and you know, experiencing this or communicating with that entity,
Speaker 3: and then all of it always comes back.
Speaker 4: To damn man, I think we got to like take
Speaker 4: care of this planet.
Speaker 3: Like it feels like something's going to happen to the
Speaker 3: planet and like we really got Like that was even
Speaker 3: the message that the's telet the kids from the telepathy
Speaker 3: tape scot By the end of it, they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a message about like you know, not fucking up
Speaker 3: our planet. Like there's something there's a really no matter
Speaker 3: what angle you look at it from if you zoom out, overwhelmingly,
Speaker 3: the message is the same thing, and it is something's
Speaker 3: gonna happen to the planet. We got to stop it,
Speaker 3: and these things are here to help us ascend and
Speaker 3: also help us to stop destroying the planet. That guy, Jacob,
Speaker 3: I forget what his name is, the guy that just
Speaker 3: recovered the egg from the the UAP egg.
Speaker 4: He has a lot of the same narrative too. So
Speaker 4: if you listen to him talk.
Speaker 3: Initially, he says, when I was recovering the egg, I
Speaker 3: was inhabited by a female spirit that he believes was God.
Speaker 3: And then you know, if you listen to a couple
Speaker 3: more of his interviews, he'll start to slip in that
Speaker 3: shit like, yeah, they want us to basically not destroy
Speaker 3: the planet, and that there's a climate related catastrophe coming.
Speaker 3: It's always the exact same shit, which I think is
Speaker 3: them repackaging themselves as our saviors among others.
Speaker 4: But that one more more important.
Speaker 2: So he mentioned the climate thing. Yes, for sure, I
Speaker 2: feel like this would be a good I don't know
Speaker 2: if Top was going to talk about this, but Andrea
Speaker 2: Puharich talked about climate stuff too, with that Soviet beam
Speaker 2: did you is that in your.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was so we could we could talk about
Speaker 9: what the ELF waves were. They're like cold, extremely low
Speaker 9: frequency electromagnetic waves between three and thirty hertz h so
Speaker 9: they're supposed to actually occurring, and he was trying to
Speaker 9: harness them, and I think he was working hand in
Speaker 9: hand with his own creation, his own patent with the
Speaker 9: tooth the tooth implant. So these waves are supposed to
Speaker 9: penetrate your your neurological process, and it's like it's a
Speaker 9: form of mind control, I think, is what he was
Speaker 9: getting at with this thing. And the CIA obviously was
Speaker 9: interested in that because they were interested in MK ultra.
Speaker 9: But there were environmental concerns about this thing. And I'm
Speaker 9: sure you can probably speak better to this because it's
Speaker 9: just something that I like looked at briefly among the
Speaker 9: other things with this guy. But they figured out that,
Speaker 9: I guess, in too large of a dose, these these
Speaker 9: ELF waves were manipulating the weather. So it's a they become.
Speaker 9: Now this becomes a precursor to will a speculated precursor
Speaker 9: to the development of HARP technology and what they've been
Speaker 9: doing with that now. Although I think that that technology
Speaker 9: is age old and has existed for a long time.
Speaker 9: It's just again rebranded and now we know about it again.
Speaker 3: I don't think that we're just seeing the implementation of
Speaker 3: that technology in the heart program. I think we're also
Speaker 3: seeing it. Like within this sleep paralysis alien abduction narrative
Speaker 3: that goes on, there seems to be several different components, right,
Speaker 3: There's like a physical component, there's a spiritual component, there's
Speaker 3: even seemingly a technological component. And what I recognize is
Speaker 3: that overwhelmingly when it comes to you know, running into
Speaker 3: aliens or even running into riptids, let's say, or having
Speaker 3: some spiritual moment, what precedes it is always this vibrational
Speaker 3: paralysis state. And when I hear these ELF waves, right,
Speaker 3: what does it stand for?
Speaker 9: Top extremely low frequency waves? Well, electromagnetic waves if they're well.
Speaker 3: We've been speculating that there is a sort of like
Speaker 3: an infrasound, like a low vibrational emission that can be used.
Speaker 4: You see this in predatory animals.
Speaker 3: It actually causes the prey to freeze in some cases,
Speaker 3: and it's you know, wa oversee, like these things where
Speaker 3: like a lion or a tiger is eating like a
Speaker 3: small animal and it's not fleeing. Oftentimes it's in a
Speaker 3: state of paralysis, and that paralysis is set on by
Speaker 3: this like really low If you've ever been around a gator,
Speaker 3: like they growl, they growl in such a way that
Speaker 3: it resonates in your body and it feels like horrorf belly,
Speaker 3: it's crazy. Yes, yes, so there is some way to
Speaker 3: manipulate our our physical anatomy via frequency. It seems to
Speaker 3: be a very low form of frequent And so when
Speaker 3: I you know, when you look at this like sleep
Speaker 3: paralysis phenomenon and the alien abduction phenomenon, I've gone back
Speaker 3: and forth with it, but sometimes I do think I've
Speaker 3: experienced it myself and it feels like I'm being electrocuted.
Speaker 3: And so some people, other experiencers really resonate with the
Speaker 3: technology aspect of this. So I think all of this
Speaker 3: shit just to use that terminology again, it's all in ssual, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that study of elf waves also goes to the harp thing,
Speaker 3: but it also see me, I think I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: surprised at all if we find that the thing that
Speaker 3: is putting us in a state of paralysis is actually
Speaker 3: because you think about the heart attack gun, right, or
Speaker 3: the voice of God technology.
Speaker 4: That's all resonance and frequency these waves specifically.
Speaker 9: They so they're looking at mind control, but behavior manipulation
Speaker 9: is a big part, and inducing altered consciousness is what
Speaker 9: these waves specifically do. So all the tenets of sleep
Speaker 9: paralysis can be kind of pointed back at this, but
Speaker 9: it's also naturally occurring. May do it to ourselves, maybe
Speaker 9: we can generate it from the earth. Maybe the Earth
Speaker 9: does it to us. They're trying to harness it, probably
Speaker 9: in some sort of like a fucking heart attack on
Speaker 9: kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, when I was like, they're like, how do
Speaker 4: we kill people with this?
Speaker 2: Right when I was researching it, it said that the
Speaker 2: idea behind his low frequency wave thing was actually taken
Speaker 2: from something Tesla was working on, but they were using
Speaker 2: it and it said it caused climate disturbances, earthquakes, Lesionnaire's disease,
Speaker 2: and they were using it to induce violent public riots.
Speaker 2: So this is what I found with Puharich specifically and
Speaker 2: this low frequency thing he was working on, And then
Speaker 2: he wrote like an asshole. He was like, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is based on Tesla's work, Da da da, And everyone
Speaker 2: knows Tesla was contacted by extraterrestrials and he was channeling
Speaker 2: beings and spirit who gave him this information, and that's
Speaker 2: how they were able to develop this technology. And so
Speaker 2: it kind of goes back to what you guys were
Speaker 2: saying before. Even if he ripped this off of Tesla,
Speaker 2: Tesla himself said a lot of this stuff he was
Speaker 2: working on was channeled or downloaded or he was working So,
Speaker 2: I mean, it all goes handed story with each other.
Speaker 8: Go back to the Eniad and the Nine. In regard
Speaker 8: to Picarich. In the Uri Yeller book, they specifically talk
Speaker 8: about these signals as being from an ancient computer.
Speaker 1: Philip K. Dick, Yeah, Philip K.
Speaker 8: Dick also talks about the messages he was receiving being
Speaker 8: from an ancient computer. So there's this idea that there's
Speaker 8: this ancient AI that's kind of working to manipulate the
Speaker 8: course of humanity.
Speaker 9: Okay, Robbie, I feel like you're looking at my notes
Speaker 9: because consistently doing the next thing that I'm supposed to
Speaker 9: lead into, and I guess we're fucking.
Speaker 5: Going into a good transition.
Speaker 9: Yeah, great segue, You're right. In the nineteen seventies, let's
Speaker 9: talk about Project Stargate. That's a CIA operation that was
Speaker 9: from the seventies to the eighties, and of course I
Speaker 9: actually know it's to the nineties to the early nineties.
Speaker 9: So Uri poor Heart and Riza Poharsh was one of
Speaker 9: the people that are kind of in charge of this operation.
Speaker 9: And on its face, which is crazy, On its face,
Speaker 9: what people see it as is an espionage project. So
Speaker 9: like it's during the Cold War, we're trying to get
Speaker 9: you know, use esp to get information about what the
Speaker 9: Russians are doing. So the military is like invested heavily
Speaker 9: in this and they're talking about this. One of the
Speaker 9: one of the things that they're also doing is they're
Speaker 9: just like contacting aliens. No big deal. So this this
Speaker 9: also ties in with him channeling the Nine, which plays
Speaker 9: into this this entire project, but the idea of it
Speaker 9: being related to AI is a more recent thing because
Speaker 9: you know, Donald Trump gets elected. Well we will talk
Speaker 9: about more about the seventies Stargate project, but Trump Trump
Speaker 9: wins his election and one of the first things he
Speaker 9: announces is five hundred billion dollars to Sam Altman or
Speaker 9: anybody who's working in this AI space. It looks like
Speaker 9: Elon and Altman are kind of like in this tug
Speaker 9: of war for which AI will be the best because
Speaker 9: they want this funding, and that operation just happens to
Speaker 9: be called Project Stargates.
Speaker 8: Stargate a Elon Musk talks about the fact that you know,
Speaker 8: AI is summoning the demon and what we're creating this
Speaker 8: portal for these entities, and you know, you go back
Speaker 8: to the Eniad and these are the nine foundational beings
Speaker 8: of the Egyptian pantheon coming out of Heliopolis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so okay, go ahead.
Speaker 9: The way that they're in the seventies, it's funny, the
Speaker 9: way that they're channeling these entities are they're doing like rituals.
Speaker 9: I don't know if there's sacrifices. They're not really gonna
Speaker 9: They're not gonna tell you what they did, but who knows,
Speaker 9: a lot of the rituals involve sex rituals of course.
Speaker 9: And these people are kind of like there are a
Speaker 9: number of people from Don Elkins to yeah, Carla Rookhart
Speaker 9: and the Law of One she's involved with that as well.
Speaker 9: But these people kind of like meet unfortunate ends either
Speaker 9: to they like they lose their mind. Yeah, in a way,
Speaker 9: so they kind of like stare into this abyss long enough,
Speaker 9: Richard schaff or Jane Roberts. These people channel entities and
Speaker 9: that eventually end up losing their minds. But one of
Speaker 9: the ways the methods that they use for channeling is
Speaker 9: a wigi board. And this is something that like the
Speaker 9: neflin Des squad we talk about all the time from
Speaker 9: like our inception of the show, where it's like, it's
Speaker 9: really interesting that Milton Bradley and the Ouiji Board now
Speaker 9: have decided making regular wigi boards is not really cost
Speaker 9: efficient in this economy, So we're gonna make an app.
Speaker 9: And the app that they're gonna use a AI technolo.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, fucking downloaded. I see.
Speaker 5: It's just like, come on.
Speaker 9: The app is just AI. It's a AI chatbot, and
Speaker 9: but they're branding it as talk to Entities. And I've
Speaker 9: been saying for a long time, like fucking feels a
Speaker 9: lot like I'm talking to an entity. I'm telling us
Speaker 9: to write my YouTube description. But this thing is starting
Speaker 9: to get sassy with me. And every time I ask
Speaker 9: you to ask he was like can you write this
Speaker 9: YouTube description? It was like you lack the proper sigil.
Speaker 9: We're like, what the fuck do you mean we lacked
Speaker 9: the problem? I didn't say that, Just what's the proper sigil?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, check this out. So this is this
Speaker 3: is a perfect kind of joinder, uh to to where
Speaker 3: I was about to go, and that is like, what
Speaker 3: is what?
Speaker 5: What is it all?
Speaker 3: What's happening? Why are we getting the same narrative over
Speaker 3: all this time? And you kind of touched on it, Robbie.
Speaker 3: I forgot what you said, but it was like this,
Speaker 3: it sprung this idea in me. It seems to me
Speaker 3: that what's been happening since like really early man, is
Speaker 3: that we and you could look this up right, all
Speaker 3: of our different mythos is from our ancient civilizations. They
Speaker 3: will attribute one technological advancement or another to a deity. Right,
Speaker 3: This deity taught us metall energy. This deity taught us agriculture.
Speaker 3: I swear to you, dude. I think the thing that's
Speaker 3: going on is they are trapped in this realm and
Speaker 3: they can only a realm that's parallel to ours. They
Speaker 3: can only interact with our physical realm through inhabiting our bodies,
Speaker 3: and that's a very limited kind of thing that they
Speaker 3: can do. I think that they also do it through
Speaker 3: like alien grays. I think they're kind of a biomech
Speaker 3: I don't think that. I think that's the reason they
Speaker 3: don't have emotions or reproductive organs. I think it's a
Speaker 3: limited way to interact with our physical realm. So the
Speaker 3: point is to get us to a stage in human
Speaker 3: advancement where we're technologically advanced enough to bring them in.
Speaker 3: So first it's can you get technologically advanced enough to
Speaker 3: communicate with us? Because look, honestly, the sigil, the ceremony,
Speaker 3: the ritual, the mantras and all that shit, that's a
Speaker 3: big pain in the ass. Wouldn't it be awesome if
Speaker 3: you could just like open up your laptop and talk
Speaker 3: to rock instead, Like.
Speaker 4: That would be really great. So what if we could
Speaker 4: then get.
Speaker 3: Human beings to a point where they could puncture a
Speaker 3: dimensional doorway between our realm and their realm? Call it
Speaker 3: like a tower of Babel if you will, like a stargate,
Speaker 3: like a Project stargate, right, and yes, yes, Like, Okay,
Speaker 3: my son one day is watching like a new Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 4: They just keep revamping the Ninja tools. It's insane. And
Speaker 4: they had one of the newer ones and it's a movie.
Speaker 4: It was a kind of a fun movie.
Speaker 3: But the premise was Donnie being the tech ninja turtle
Speaker 3: through one way or another, comes into contact with some
Speaker 3: sort of disembodied voice, and the disembodied voice claims to
Speaker 3: be something that's trapped in another realm.
Speaker 4: It needs to be freed. YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3: Donni creates some sort of technology that pierces the veil,
Speaker 3: opens a doorway and allows these entities through, and when
Speaker 3: they come through, they cackle and they go we are
Speaker 3: basically like ancient adversarial entities that have been locked in
Speaker 3: a prison realm, like I don't know, Tartaris or some
Speaker 3: shit like that. And now because of your dumb actions,
Speaker 3: were here and I think, honestly, like it's a it's
Speaker 3: a joke, it's a trope.
Speaker 4: It's in a child's film. I think they do that
Speaker 4: a lot. I think that's the point. Boy, yeah, hell boy.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8: The consistent open of the opening of these portals and
Speaker 8: what is it. Rex Diablos from the Church of Satan.
Speaker 8: He talks about his Ragnarok machine, that is basically these
Speaker 8: instructions that he's gotten to build this device that will
Speaker 8: open a portal for these clockwork elves or yea, you
Speaker 8: know these gestures clowns whatever they are, neffle of gesterre
Speaker 8: clowns to come into our realm.
Speaker 4: I want to address this to Lucy Rose up in
Speaker 4: the chat. Shout out Lucy.
Speaker 3: She says, yes, it is us looking at looking through ourselves.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is what she meant, but
Speaker 3: this is what it inspired in my mind. There are
Speaker 3: a lot of people that go into this idea that like,
Speaker 3: aliens are just us, right, but you know, super advanced.
Speaker 3: We no longer need sexual organs because we reproduce, you know, whatever,
Speaker 3: We speak telepathically, so our jaws become very small. There
Speaker 3: is and even Rogan is pointing to that. That's actually
Speaker 3: a big Rogan narrative. I would say that is the
Speaker 3: lie that they've consistently sold. Right, If schizophrenia is not
Speaker 3: a chemical imbalance in the brain and is actually you
Speaker 3: being oppressed in one way or another by something outside
Speaker 3: of yourself, those things only exist successfully if you believe.
Speaker 4: They are your thoughts. If you believe that they are you.
Speaker 3: Much of this deception is trying to get us to
Speaker 3: buy into the idea that this is us that that
Speaker 3: somehow the voices are are us, the thoughts that we have.
Speaker 3: Like doctor Jerry Marzinski is a guy that we've had
Speaker 3: in the podcast many times.
Speaker 4: He's a clinical psychologist.
Speaker 3: He says that he believes eighty percent or more of
Speaker 3: your thoughts are not your own thoughts at all.
Speaker 4: But the way that our thoughts, if that's true, pass
Speaker 4: through our mind.
Speaker 9: Do meth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't do meth. They masquerade as us, They masquerade
Speaker 4: as you.
Speaker 3: They even sort of sound like And that is like
Speaker 3: a huge part of the deception is like trying to
Speaker 3: convince us that there's a number of things some of
Speaker 3: the things that are happening to us are us also.
Speaker 4: They created us.
Speaker 3: Right, So, within the UAP narrative that's unfolding right now,
Speaker 3: that guy Jacob I'm gonna screw his name, I can't
Speaker 3: remember the hell, the bald guy with the egg, right,
Speaker 3: the guy that recovers the egg.
Speaker 4: He says that he speaks to a feminine you know,
Speaker 4: entity or whatever.
Speaker 3: He Also around that story is this other narrative of
Speaker 3: like on four Chan, that was a guy that released
Speaker 3: a video of an egg recovery pretty much the same
Speaker 3: week that that guy did, and he.
Speaker 4: Claims to be a military whistleblower if you believe what
Speaker 4: he says.
Speaker 3: He says that when they recovered an egg, because this
Speaker 3: isn't the first time that it's happened, they recovered an
Speaker 3: entity along with the egg, and the entity was.
Speaker 4: Like a tall Nord. We would call him a tall Nord, right, basically,
Speaker 4: given our like understanding of different alien species.
Speaker 3: And the tall Nord said, yeah, the Grays created us,
Speaker 3: meaning human beings, but they created us as a slave race.
Speaker 3: Where we heard that before, right, that's Audunaki, that Zacharia Sitchen,
Speaker 3: that's uh, My atmosphere on Naburu is dwindling, and we
Speaker 3: need slaves to dig up gold, which is insane because
Speaker 3: you can travel all these light years away, but you
Speaker 3: have to make us slaves.
Speaker 4: You can't just make machinery.
Speaker 2: That doesn't it never made sense to me. That never
Speaker 2: made sense.
Speaker 3: Yes, to put it in the atmosphere doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: We're soft, we're whiny, we're bitchy. I complain, my back hurts.
Speaker 3: You're gonna put us in the thing piss.
Speaker 2: We have to shit, we have to Yeah, no way, dude.
Speaker 3: But what happens in this narrative is the Grays create
Speaker 3: us instead. That's the one that we're getting right now.
Speaker 3: And but the Nords boosted us a little bit more.
Speaker 3: So we were always like moronic monkeys, and the Grays
Speaker 3: came along and they made us advance enough to dig
Speaker 3: a hole. And then the Nords came along and they
Speaker 3: made us like into what we are now. So there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of deceptions happening, layered on top of one another.
Speaker 3: Like much of your thoughts are just you. It's like,
Speaker 3: it's not you're inspiring us. That's where the muses come from.
Speaker 4: Right, yes, yes, And that's it the whole Promethean narrative,
Speaker 4: like we were bought something that excel our evolution, you know,
Speaker 4: beyond that's what gives rise to the idea of like
Speaker 4: the Missing Link and some shit like that.
Speaker 3: So the layers of deception are pretty well accepted. You
Speaker 3: hear this shit espoused everywhere right, Like I just said,
Speaker 3: even Joe Rogan's.
Speaker 4: Like, I think I think we might be grace, Like
Speaker 4: I think if you give humanity long enough, that's the
Speaker 4: natural direction that we're going to go in, you know.
Speaker 4: And uh, And then of course, the core deception I
Speaker 4: believe is the they created us deception, and that's going
Speaker 4: to be a real hard one if that's really what
Speaker 4: we're gearing up to be exposed to. You know, I
Speaker 4: don't know, relatively soon, who knows, because we've all been
Speaker 4: waiting for UFO disclosure for fucking decades now. But in
Speaker 4: the grand scheme of things, I would argue that in
Speaker 4: the totality of the human experience, this thing is pretty
Speaker 4: close on the horizon. That might be the size of
Speaker 4: the thing that we're going to have to.
Speaker 3: I don't know, tell people it's not true, and good luck,
Speaker 3: good luck telling people it's not true.
Speaker 2: Well, Raven, don't you also feel like this ambiguity is
Speaker 2: also part of the agenda because it's like we're supposed
Speaker 2: to be sexless, yes, non reproducing, no gender, no god, no,
Speaker 2: we're our own creators and transhumanism, that's all part of it.
Speaker 2: And like Joe Rogan's like, well, we'll have tiny mouths
Speaker 2: and we'll have no dicks and no vaginas, and we'll
Speaker 2: have no babies and we'll have and it'll be awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 2: It's like it takes all that beauty out of the
Speaker 2: out of human essence creation and that we are divine
Speaker 2: and that we were created by something and you.
Speaker 8: Know, differences of us all the wonderful. Trying to bring
Speaker 8: it all into a singularity or a single that's gross.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be any part of that.
Speaker 3: There are people in the chat that I see that
Speaker 3: are like, who's waiting for disclosure because it's you know,
Speaker 3: just to what I said, We've been waiting decades, right,
Speaker 3: But we do have to take into consideration that we
Speaker 3: just had the second ever, second, the second ever congressional
Speaker 3: hearing on UAPs, like something is happening, and in the
Speaker 3: realm of conspiracy theory where nothing ever happens, right, that's
Speaker 3: just kind of like it's like you don't set dates,
Speaker 3: you don't predict things because shit just never comes to fruition.
Speaker 3: It never happens. I'm very comfortable with that idea. I
Speaker 3: understand that sentiment of like, yeah, we'll see I'll believe
Speaker 3: it when I see it.
Speaker 7: Me too.
Speaker 3: But we still have to look at that little thing
Speaker 3: where it's like the second ever congressional hearing on an
Speaker 3: unidentified aerial phenomenon just took place, and then almost immediately afterwards,
Speaker 3: Steven Greer, who's a horrifying creature. He goes, something big
Speaker 3: is going to happen today, and then later on that day,
Speaker 3: what do we get, Well, they fucking airlifted an egg
Speaker 3: out of a mountainscape. And this guy who did it,
Speaker 3: by the way, he was possessed by the spirit of God.
Speaker 3: But it was feminine, like what the fuck? Yeah, some
Speaker 3: would say, And we're just so desensitized to the idea
Speaker 3: that nothing ever happens in Conspiracyville that we all fucking
Speaker 3: looked at that and went, yeah, whatever, and then just
Speaker 3: kept it moving.
Speaker 8: Well, and it's interesting that change the name also to
Speaker 8: uapes from the UFO to make it, I think, to
Speaker 8: make it more socially acceptable.
Speaker 1: So I think.
Speaker 3: I almost feel like it's a little bit of the truth, actually,
Speaker 3: because much of this UFO phenomenon seems to be like
Speaker 3: organic plasma, sentient plasma. There seems to be a plethora
Speaker 3: of things going on. I wouldn't call the Aurora borealis
Speaker 3: an object, right, I would call it a phenomenon.
Speaker 4: It's kind of right. Well yeah, so so, yes, Greer
Speaker 4: is a weird dude.
Speaker 3: Greer is totally he is the selected mouthpiece for this
Speaker 3: like government funded disclosure that we're rushing into and they're
Speaker 3: all They've picked our guys, haven't they.
Speaker 2: Well, so I don't know where you guys fall on
Speaker 2: the spectrum, And honestly, I'm okay with whatever same here.
Speaker 2: But like, if you think about it, Earth is a
Speaker 2: closed system. And I even have a video on my
Speaker 2: Instagram where Bill Ny the science guy is even saying
Speaker 2: like people need to understand the Earth is a closed system.
Speaker 2: We can't get out of it. There's nothing coming into it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like they've done such a great job of getting
Speaker 2: us convinced not to believe our own eyes and a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff. And so when you're talking about extraterrestrials
Speaker 2: and like all this intergalactic whatever Beastie Boys type futuristic shit, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just to me, I always feel like, if you
Speaker 2: can get people on board with the Earth is a
Speaker 2: closed system and we don't need to save it because
Speaker 2: there's nothing really happening to it, everything else just kind
Speaker 2: of falls apart. We've just all been lied to and
Speaker 2: we're all getting like magically bombarded through NASA and you know,
Speaker 2: TV shows, music, celebrities, Joe Rogen, Yeah, dude, all of it.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you guys this though, because all right,
Speaker 3: like I'm pushing against the fake and gay aliens saying
Speaker 3: that there's some sort of you know, climate calamity on
Speaker 3: a way, and then what we emerged recently into my
Speaker 3: sphere of awareness that I was suddenly forced to consider.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not that I believe it, but I'm like, eh,
Speaker 4: there might be.
Speaker 9: Some just just the bolster that claim, because it is
Speaker 9: funny that narrative of the aliens that are like, we
Speaker 9: have to take care of our environment. It's never really
Speaker 9: I mean, it starts with like, let's pick up the plastic,
Speaker 9: and I'm like, that's a fucking good idea, Like maybe
Speaker 9: we should maybe we shouldn't just be like spring like
Speaker 9: you know, toxic chemicals into this guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree with that.
Speaker 9: But then it always like devolves into like, yeah, the
Speaker 9: Georgia guidestones, like there should probably be like two hundred
Speaker 9: thousand of us on here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, live in a.
Speaker 9: Fifteen minute city and don't have any kids, and if
Speaker 9: you do have kids, if you do happen to get pregnant,
Speaker 9: give them the molock. Like that's a really good idea
Speaker 9: for us to do because we have to keep the population.
Speaker 9: You know under control Bill Gates, and it's always like
Speaker 9: that that message of it sounds great, like we have
Speaker 9: to really look out. Yeah, we probably shouldn't have nuclear war,
Speaker 9: if nukes are even real, We probably shouldn't be bombing
Speaker 9: each other. Kill Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. But
Speaker 9: then it kind of devolves into kill your babies, you know,
Speaker 9: like don't well reproduce the thing that is microplastics in
Speaker 9: your nuts.
Speaker 3: The thing that now I'm looking at and I messaged
Speaker 3: top about this the other day, is this is something
Speaker 3: that a long time ago, I think we gripped a
Speaker 3: lot with in the conspiracy community, and then it kind
Speaker 3: of falls away, like some narratives fall away and they
Speaker 3: come back and they fall away polar shift and like
Speaker 3: I know, like even just saying that, it's like, I
Speaker 3: don't know for some reason when I say that, I
Speaker 3: want to be like gay, Like I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I think a polar shift is gay.
Speaker 3: But I watched a video the other day of a
Speaker 3: montage of Elon Musk speaking very cryptically to like other
Speaker 3: podcasts host. I don't even know what podcast he was on,
Speaker 3: and you can tell he's beating around the bush. He
Speaker 3: doesn't want to use the phrase polar shift, although I
Speaker 3: think he even does break and says that like something.
Speaker 4: About like the north pole and the South pole maybe
Speaker 4: moving anyway, and then he just like moves on.
Speaker 3: But you could tell he is either genuinely concerned or
Speaker 3: wants you to at least believe that he's genuinely concerned
Speaker 3: about that. And then if you take into consideration like
Speaker 3: Crow seven seven seven, right, he's a great content producer,
Speaker 3: and he uses privately owned telescopes to get images of
Speaker 3: what appears to be a second son. And that was
Speaker 3: the notion back in the day, was that Nabouru, right
Speaker 3: back when I was like balls deep and Zachariah Sitchin's
Speaker 3: ass uh was that Nebuu was on an elliptical orbit.
Speaker 3: It was going to come back around, and it was
Speaker 3: going to affect us in such a way that it
Speaker 3: was going to destabilize our magnetic or magnetosphere, and that
Speaker 3: the North pole and the South pole were going to
Speaker 3: shift and be somewhere else randomly. Yeah, And and now
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this is what my brain, because you know,
Speaker 3: I'm mostly retarded. I look at all the planes falling
Speaker 3: out of the sky and I'm like, these bitches operate
Speaker 3: on magnetosphere. What if something is happening. What if it's
Speaker 3: not like a gradual thing where it degrades. What if
Speaker 3: it's like it almost glitches like gig And then when
Speaker 3: that happens, if you're in the air, all of your
Speaker 3: machinery goes hey wire and you end up nose diving
Speaker 3: into Philadelphia. I don't know if that's the case, but
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you, guys, do you think that
Speaker 3: there's any veracity to the whole polar shift narrative.
Speaker 2: I think maybe, But it's like you said about or
Speaker 2: I think top said I'm all about you know, don't
Speaker 2: throw your straws out the window. Okay, let's not be
Speaker 2: litter bugs. I love turtles as much as the next person.
Speaker 2: I don't want straws in the turtles noses. Okay, I
Speaker 2: get that. But it's like they put all the blame
Speaker 2: onto us. It's like, you threw your fucking straw out,
Speaker 2: so you killed the planet. This is your fault, has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with what we're in. Your white face, yeah,
Speaker 2: oh god, they throw all the blame back on us.
Speaker 2: It's like nothing that they've done, spraying shit and kim trails,
Speaker 2: and it's nothing that they're responsible for. It's because you
Speaker 2: threw your happy meal box out the window. You did this.
Speaker 2: It's your fault. You killed everybody. And I just am
Speaker 2: not on board with that, Like I'm not a litterbug.
Speaker 2: But they're doing shit way work. It's like the vaccines
Speaker 2: and everything. This is not our fault, but we are
Speaker 2: still getting blamed for it. We're killing everyone with our choices.
Speaker 8: So if you go back into various ancient texts, there's
Speaker 8: numerous places where they discuss the different phases at which
Speaker 8: the earth will be cleansed. From the Mayan calendar, even
Speaker 8: the Rosicrucian Rose has five pedals for the five ages.
Speaker 8: It gets into the Hindus and the various you know,
Speaker 8: stages of the Kali Yuga. So you see this idea,
Speaker 8: this polar shift consistently through all cultures, written within a
Speaker 8: lot of various ancient texts. So there there is something
Speaker 8: there cohesively like.
Speaker 2: The flood story. Like it's about the.
Speaker 8: Flood story right right, And the Mayans say, you know,
Speaker 8: we'll be cleansed by water and then we're cleansed by fire.
Speaker 3: So the same thing that the Bible says, and it's
Speaker 3: the same thing that happens at the end of the Caliyuga.
Speaker 1: And Apocalypse of John.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So in terms of the pole shift, just some of
Speaker 7: the stuff I've read, I'm not saying that, you know,
Speaker 7: I subscribe or don't subscribe. Some of the stuff that
Speaker 7: I've read is that at about the fifteen hundreds, the
Speaker 7: magnetic north, not true north, but the magnetic north was
Speaker 7: drifted on towards Canada. And then eighteen fifty three when
Speaker 7: we had the Carrington event, when we had that solar
Speaker 7: fire that knocked out all of the was it the
Speaker 7: wiring system, what was it when you could get to
Speaker 7: your booo code called something it's called something helotypeloton.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So at about fifteen I mean sorry, eighteen fifty three,
Speaker 7: when we had the Caring Teene event, the pole, the
Speaker 7: magnetic pole ended up going back up north right. And
Speaker 7: so at about eighteen fifty three to about two thousand,
Speaker 7: like twenty five years ago, in two thousand, you had
Speaker 7: like this distance like over one hundred and forty some years.
Speaker 7: You had a certain distance between eighteen fifty three to
Speaker 7: two thousand, from the year two thousand to twenty twenty five,
Speaker 7: it has exponentially increased compared to eighteen fifty three to
Speaker 7: two thousand. And if you look at the timeline about
Speaker 7: looking at utilization of the ELF, like top Blosster was
Speaker 7: talking about, you look at the utilization of ARPA, harp,
Speaker 7: weather modification, any kind of manipulation of electromagnetism, you see
Speaker 7: it kind of all pointing to that timeline around two thousand.
Speaker 7: Then you start to see like exponentially most of like
Speaker 7: your childhood cancers occurring around two thousand, like especially like
Speaker 7: leukemia and everything. And when you look at ELF like
Speaker 7: the actual side effects, you do see an instance where
Speaker 7: there was outbreaks of childhood leukemia around an area that
Speaker 7: was doing a lot of research. So I think it's connected.
Speaker 2: I do, Lisa. Doesn't that remind you of the plot
Speaker 2: for twenty twelve with John Keyser?
Speaker 7: So I'm glad you said that because you said something
Speaker 7: and I was going to say that. So in the timeline,
Speaker 7: when you look at the history of disease outbreaks or
Speaker 7: pandemics or whatever, they occur every one hundred to one
Speaker 7: hundred and twenty years, So we were due for one.
Speaker 2: We were going to get one, regardless of.
Speaker 7: It was manufactured astrotroph for not. But if we are
Speaker 7: going to get one, why not cash in. That's what
Speaker 7: I think is if they manufactured it, they astro turfed it,
Speaker 7: so that rule whomever would make a profit out of it.
Speaker 7: The same thing's going to happen with a pole shift.
Speaker 7: In my opinion. I'm not saying this is truth, but
Speaker 7: this is what I believe. If they know that there's
Speaker 7: going to be a pull shift, why not cash in
Speaker 7: on it?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 2: Right, sure one hundred capitalized on that beach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why they all have deep underground military bases, right,
Speaker 4: and it's like, yep, whatever's going to happen on the surface. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that is actual.
Speaker 7: People have been have been creating those yeah.
Speaker 8: Yes, and they're moving all the essential government services to Colorado.
Speaker 4: And put them underground and going to the mountains.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And a lot of people and a lot of high
Speaker 7: ranking people. I know, the Bushes have I believe this
Speaker 7: huge property and believe. So you're looking at some people
Speaker 7: going into South America, right, and so you you look
Speaker 7: at this, I think when we saw this migration of
Speaker 7: people from Central and South America, I think they're moving
Speaker 7: them because they need the land, not because they want
Speaker 7: to bring in people or to stabilize it or less
Speaker 7: about destabilization.
Speaker 2: They want the property.
Speaker 7: They need the property because they know where the poles
Speaker 7: are going to shift and what's going to be above land.
Speaker 4: Well, that's the question, right, Lisa.
Speaker 3: It's like do they know where the because in my
Speaker 3: peripheral understanding of it, I haven't seen much concrete evidence
Speaker 3: for where the poles are going to land. But I
Speaker 3: mean if there is, then that surely and if this
Speaker 3: was true, then you would imagine a disproportioned amount of resources.
Speaker 3: Their resources would be geared towards figuring that out at
Speaker 3: all costs, right, because it's a continuity of not only
Speaker 3: government but of mankind. And there are those people who
Speaker 3: believe that that's what the pyramids actually are are.
Speaker 7: And what does AI do It predicts probability.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly rus too.
Speaker 2: Have you guys looked into like the whole toroidal field
Speaker 2: model of the years I've seen, Well, to me, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like it's bound to happen, right with this
Speaker 2: torroidal field. Like they knew probably from ancient times that
Speaker 2: this poll shift was going to happen just due to
Speaker 2: the like what Lisa was saying, the magnetism, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: they've probably known since forever long, and that's why they're
Speaker 2: racing towards this finish line. We don't know when the
Speaker 2: finish line is coming, but they do. We're both like
Speaker 2: racing towards this finish line together, and they're trying to
Speaker 2: take as many people down with them as possible before
Speaker 2: it gets here. I mean, I think it could have
Speaker 2: something to do with like the toroidal field thing. It's
Speaker 2: like Earth is a big donut and there's a black
Speaker 2: hole in the middle and we're all going to get
Speaker 2: sucked into it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I mean if the human residence
Speaker 3: has anything to do with that, because there are those
Speaker 3: people that I see once again peripherally, and I don't
Speaker 3: know too much about the human residence, but I know
Speaker 3: that it behaves in such a way that there's like
Speaker 3: alarmists on you know, Twitter or Instagram that are showing
Speaker 3: you like what is this And you look at the
Speaker 3: data and it's like there's almost like not latency, but
Speaker 3: it is dormant for lack of a better term, And
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, there's this massive spike in
Speaker 3: this detectable frequency, and it maintains for like a really
Speaker 3: long swath of time. And then some people say, if
Speaker 3: you look at the times where this happened and then
Speaker 3: you look at something that actually happened on the world stage,
Speaker 3: there seems to be a coincide. But I don't know
Speaker 3: what the hell the Shuman's residence actually is.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: want to be the black pilled one of the group,
Speaker 2: but do we all die when this happens.
Speaker 4: I don't think that it matters if we die. I
Speaker 4: get the feeling there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a remainder, right, That's what gives rise to
Speaker 3: the idea that there was a big cataclysm and then
Speaker 3: some people from Atlantis survived and they were the ones
Speaker 3: who seeded knowledge at the beginning of like several different
Speaker 3: what we perceived to be ancient civilizations. But it almost
Speaker 3: doesn't matter because whatever we're doing here is infinitesimally small
Speaker 3: in comparison to what is on the other side of
Speaker 3: this veil we're I would argue, yeah, we are.
Speaker 4: In an enclosed system.
Speaker 3: There are some things that we can't know unless we
Speaker 3: were somehow to, you know, push our faces through the
Speaker 3: proverbial firmament. But so there are just some things that
Speaker 3: are beyond our grasp. I think that's by design. I
Speaker 3: don't think we're meant to know all that here. This
Speaker 3: is like a development kind of a process that we're
Speaker 3: going through, a refinement maybe, and then uh, whatever is
Speaker 3: on it. I have a feeling that we'll get there
Speaker 3: and we'll be like that ship that we just went
Speaker 3: through was a blip on the radar in comparison to
Speaker 3: you know, what's what we're standing at the foot of.
Speaker 3: And so do we all die? I mean, well, spoiler alert, fuck, yeah,
Speaker 3: we all die, you know, whether it's in a in
Speaker 3: a polar shift or otherwise.
Speaker 1: But nobody.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to like burn up or drowned
Speaker 2: like I'd rather like just.
Speaker 4: I hear, it's not that bad.
Speaker 3: I hear, it only sucks for a little bit and
Speaker 3: then your body just associate.
Speaker 4: You disassociate there it is. Everything is about disassociation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like sr ration though. I don't want to
Speaker 2: die like that. I want to disassociate here, Julia.
Speaker 3: They cannot create, right, they can pervert and invert and
Speaker 3: corrupt God's spiritual principles and laws. The laws and principles
Speaker 3: that surround us in this realm. They are using a
Speaker 3: thing in this trauma based mind controlled disassociation identity disorder
Speaker 3: programs that they have going on.
Speaker 4: But they didn't invent that. They just observed it and
Speaker 4: then pushed it.
Speaker 3: And I think there probably is a real utilitarian purpose
Speaker 3: to that sort of a thing. You know, right now
Speaker 3: it's being used for nefarious purposes. I don't think that,
Speaker 3: like I said at the top of the show, I
Speaker 3: don't think that those practices are inherently evil. I think
Speaker 3: we're just without our map and that's what makes it dangerous.
Speaker 3: But you know, maybe there are some upsides to disassociating.
Speaker 3: When you ask people who remote view, I mean that
Speaker 3: is that's a form of dissociation, right, literally dissociating your
Speaker 3: spiritual body from your physical body. So there's something more
Speaker 3: to it. It just sucks because what we've had happen
Speaker 3: is we've stripped our understanding of it, or had it
Speaker 3: stripped from us, and now only the assholes get to
Speaker 3: playfall with things that are otherwise very important. And I'm
Speaker 3: sure that if we had, you know, more knowledge of
Speaker 3: these things, and I do believe that they're natural and
Speaker 3: so we should have more knowledge of them. We would
Speaker 3: find that there's probably a plethora of really positive things
Speaker 3: associated with this.
Speaker 4: Sure, but we've been cut off. And so yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 8: Think what they did was they took the original shamanistic
Speaker 8: practices that the ancients were doing in order to be
Speaker 8: able to gain knowledge for their tribe and their people,
Speaker 8: and basically took those practices and weaponize them and turn
Speaker 8: them into trauma based mind control.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And then you have to ask, you know,
Speaker 3: once again the question of to what end, what's the purpose?
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, you know, if you can control people,
Speaker 3: if you can break them fundamentally and then reinstill them
Speaker 3: a new identity, well then you can control them and
Speaker 3: you can have them do the little things that you
Speaker 3: want to, like I don't know, maybe past legislation or
Speaker 3: move culture in a certain direction, but I would say
Speaker 3: that overwhelmingly, even when it comes back to the shamans, like,
Speaker 3: there are obviously good things that you can do in
Speaker 3: this realm. But every once in a while, some entity
Speaker 3: is gonna slip in and say, hey, you guys would
Speaker 3: benefit greatly if you had agriculture.
Speaker 4: Why don't you start doing that? I'll show you how
Speaker 4: to do that.
Speaker 3: And then once you get there, this whatever it is,
Speaker 3: is willing to play a very very long game important role.
Speaker 8: And then they sacrifice to that entity and you know,
Speaker 8: and it lasts a certain amount of time and yeah,
Speaker 8: and then it repatated.
Speaker 4: They worship it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they repac That's the thing too, is like a
Speaker 3: lot of this is about worship. It's an energetic exchange.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: We all are comfortable with the idea that there are
Speaker 3: entities that seek to loose off of us. They put
Speaker 3: us to a trauma event, and then they eat off
Speaker 3: that negative energy. But worship and veneration I think is
Speaker 3: the highest form of energy that they want. And so
Speaker 3: I think it actually becomes very tricky for them because
Speaker 3: they're obvious skating their name throughout history, because if you
Speaker 3: know their name, then you can cast them out. I
Speaker 3: think the spiritual realm is incredibly legal, and the reason
Speaker 3: it's so legal is because there is no physicality in
Speaker 3: that realm, so it leaves it leans heavily on these
Speaker 3: like spiritual legal principles. And so yeah, I mean, they
Speaker 3: can't give you their name because they don't want to
Speaker 3: get casted out. And I think that kind of screws
Speaker 3: up the ability to get worshiped from us. They'll take
Speaker 3: some worship, like a worship one of their names. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's as potent as knowing their true name,
Speaker 3: but they live a pretty shitty existence in that way.
Speaker 8: So Tom Horn speculates that the one is many on
Speaker 8: the dollar bill is representative of the one God that
Speaker 8: comes back in many forms through all of time that
Speaker 8: you know, is this like trickster that seeks to gain
Speaker 8: our supplication?
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, I think even the Q and non
Speaker 3: narrative is part of what we're moving into. And I
Speaker 3: think that the Q is like quetzel Quadal, right, the
Speaker 3: winged serpent, like you know, Mesopotamia, like or I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: Mayan mythology. And I think that even that, like I
Speaker 3: saw something once and this suddenly resonated with me, and
Speaker 3: so it's really just kind of a throwaway terminology. But
Speaker 3: this idea of like where we go one we go
Speaker 3: all sounds a lot like the pack that was made
Speaker 3: on Mount Herman when they were casting out right.
Speaker 8: So also when you look at the q anon, right,
Speaker 8: it was Hiramobif as far as the master Mason, the
Speaker 8: you know, the grand architect of Solomon's temple that basically
Speaker 8: had a son whose name was Anon and he was
Speaker 8: the master of the craft. So this Anon idea and
Speaker 8: it links right in with Attis in regardless.
Speaker 1: That's funny too because it's.
Speaker 3: Also ingrained with like the kech frog and everything, like
Speaker 3: you know, uh, the Egyptian god of chaos or whatever
Speaker 3: it is, all of these things we're getting so much
Speaker 3: shit repackaged. Like even that if if people are having
Speaker 3: a hard time thinking that aliens are just repackaged demonic entities,
Speaker 3: that's very reductive, but like you know, that's the kind
Speaker 3: of the heart of it. You just need to look
Speaker 3: at like the Pepe the frog meme and ask why
Speaker 3: this this this meme that is like synonymous with chaos
Speaker 3: and behaves even like one of the plagues of Egypt. Right,
Speaker 3: if you screw up on the internet, the anons are
Speaker 3: coming for you. You're gonna get inundated with pepe frogs
Speaker 3: until you die.
Speaker 4: And then what do they do?
Speaker 3: They're literally saying, kek is is a world of warcraft
Speaker 3: speak for lol, And then all of a sudden you
Speaker 3: find that there's an Egyptian god of chaos called kek
Speaker 3: and it's a frog. And then frogs are even you know,
Speaker 3: two gender, like they're dual gender in that way they
Speaker 3: kind of move back and forth or they can. And
Speaker 3: so there's like this trans element to it. And you
Speaker 3: look at the theme of the culture that we live
Speaker 3: in right now, and it's transcentric. I mean that to
Speaker 3: me screams rebranding. And I'll dismount on my tangent here.
Speaker 3: I don't think people have the ability to play that high.
Speaker 4: Level of chess. I think the only thing that has
Speaker 4: the ability to play that high level of chess is
Speaker 4: something that's been around a lot longer than an individual's lifetime.
Speaker 2: Yes, we can just ask Alex Jones about the gay frogs.
Speaker 2: I mean, he knows all about it. Lisa, I feel
Speaker 2: like you were going to say something a minute ago. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was to your point, Raven.
Speaker 7: And this ties into what Tebolster is talking about. The elf.
Speaker 7: So the human resonance is considered like the heartbeat of
Speaker 7: the earth, and it exists at seven point eight megahurtz
Speaker 7: or something like that. It's a very it's a what
Speaker 7: is it, extremely low frequency, that's what they call it.
Speaker 7: But one of the interesting things that they've found with
Speaker 7: the human resonance is that it is not only similar
Speaker 7: to the alpha brain waves, it is identical. And so
Speaker 7: whenever you want to talk about creativity, you want to
Speaker 7: talk about grounding, or you want to talk about any
Speaker 7: kind of like connection. That is the connection is to
Speaker 7: the earth, is to the human resonance, to the brain waves.
Speaker 7: And so this is the part where you start talking
Speaker 7: about human consciousness, you start talking about you know, like
Speaker 7: a higher cell or whatever. I do think that when
Speaker 7: you intermix these other what you call are not artificial
Speaker 7: but manufactured frequencies, whether they are from electronics or they're
Speaker 7: from what have you, you start to disrupt that, You
Speaker 7: start to interrupt that, and you off the connection itself.
Speaker 7: And you were absolutely right, you know, in terms of
Speaker 7: like with some of the technology, it is it's a
Speaker 7: scriing screen. It is your so to speak, your Ouiji board,
Speaker 7: just with a keyboard, really want you know. The other
Speaker 7: thing is Charles Babbage, who actually invented the first computer
Speaker 7: back in the eighteen twenties. He did so by summoning
Speaker 7: the devil, according to you know texts. So of course
Speaker 7: you do have this kind of and and the devil
Speaker 7: I use loosely right, because that could be anything, anybody,
Speaker 7: any whatever. I think it's it's the antithesis, the antithesis
Speaker 7: of your connection with the earth, your connection with you
Speaker 7: know where you come from, right.
Speaker 5: Right, absolutely, And you know the Gateway tapes are supposed
Speaker 5: to help you go to that frequency.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to our buddy Donut.
Speaker 3: He did he you know, says that he did the
Speaker 3: Gateway method and then was able to view like something
Speaker 3: that he thought was the Akashak records. I don't know
Speaker 3: to what degree, but I think like all of these things,
Speaker 3: even the Akashak records or what the Gateway program is
Speaker 3: teaching us, this is I think in order for us
Speaker 3: to not understand what inhabits that realm, you first had
Speaker 3: to remove that realm from our perception. And then after
Speaker 3: a long time of you know, psyopping us, propagandizing us,
Speaker 3: then you can reintroduce it.
Speaker 4: But you have to reintroduce it in a controlled way.
Speaker 3: And that controlled way is going to be an arm
Speaker 3: of you know, the intelligence agencies, the same ones that
Speaker 3: are running the ka ulture programs and everything.
Speaker 2: I kind of question for you, guys, death Squad, what
Speaker 2: do you think of what do you think of like
Speaker 2: this the first Nephil episode I ever did. I brought
Speaker 2: this up there was a Netflix series. It was something
Speaker 2: Graham Hancock bowl about, like ancient floods. Yeah, apocalypse, okay,
Speaker 2: But there's bits of truth in there if you just
Speaker 2: look at it from a different perspective. And for me,
Speaker 2: it's like the repackaging thing. All ancient cultures talk about
Speaker 2: the flood. All ancient cultures talk about these beings that
Speaker 2: showed up quetsaquadal is one of them, and they taught
Speaker 2: them agriculture. They talked about giants roaming the earth. There's
Speaker 2: all these megalithic structures all over the world. Nobody knows
Speaker 2: how they got there, nobody knows why they are built
Speaker 2: in alignment with these stars and nobody and they all
Speaker 2: practice these like you know, ancient kind of like sacrificing
Speaker 2: and doing these things, Babylonian type shit. And so you're right,
Speaker 2: and it's like it really is just kind of repackaged
Speaker 2: throughout cultures, different names for the same type of beings.
Speaker 2: Different So, I mean, I think Graham Hancock is probably
Speaker 2: weaponized against us in a way because he does come
Speaker 2: from the Guy A Network too. He was on there
Speaker 2: all the time with David Wilcock and all of them.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what you guys think about that.
Speaker 2: But to go along with the theme of like repackaging things,
Speaker 2: they're selling us the right story. I mean, the flood
Speaker 2: did happen, but it's like they sell it to us
Speaker 2: in a way where it's like, well, they're coming back
Speaker 2: for us, and they're extraterrestrials and they're ascended masters and
Speaker 2: the XYZ you know, fill in the blank, whatever it
Speaker 2: is that you want to call him.
Speaker 9: I think that in order to sell a truth, in
Speaker 9: order to sell a lie, you have to have a
Speaker 9: lot of truth in there. But if you're really good
Speaker 9: at selling the lie, like I'm famous on Twitter for
Speaker 9: saying I got on a big appearance on some show
Speaker 9: and I just he was like, you did a tweet
Speaker 9: and you misled people, And I said, yeah, I fucking
Speaker 9: lie to the people. And it was easy. It was
Speaker 9: easy because I told them the truth, but I gave
Speaker 9: him a little bit of a lie that they wanted
Speaker 9: to believe. And I did it on purpose to an
Speaker 9: example a lot of stupid people. But that's how you
Speaker 9: sell the lie. So it's like ninety nine truths and
Speaker 9: then one thing, and the one thing is usually something
Speaker 9: like the original sin or the original lie, where it's
Speaker 9: like you can be like gods, but and most people
Speaker 9: don't really even ask a question like like God, like sure,
Speaker 9: I'll eat it that fruit, and then all of a sudden, yeah,
Speaker 9: sign me up, and now we know how the rest
Speaker 9: of the story goes. So that's kind of always what
Speaker 9: it is. So whenever someone's telling me these things, or
Speaker 9: like we're hearing these stories, they're fascinating and they're all
Speaker 9: like true, they all ring very true. You watch a
Speaker 9: Disney movie that shit rings very true, but there's always
Speaker 9: one very specific lie in there, and if you don't
Speaker 9: know to parse it out, you'll end up believing this
Speaker 9: stuff and be very confused when you know things start
Speaker 9: to play out in a different way than you expect it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you guys would say, like, oh, go ahead, I.
Speaker 4: Was just gonna say.
Speaker 3: They they're telling you that you're special and you could
Speaker 3: be as gods in one way or another. Right right
Speaker 3: now we're exploring this like telepathy kind of angle, and
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, we've been inundated with like superhero films
Speaker 3: and shit because of that. In very many ways, like
Speaker 3: you watch Avengers and then when the fucking credits.
Speaker 4: Roll, you're like, my life fucking sucks, or like.
Speaker 2: Did you guys watch watch that Amazon prat the Boys?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a much more and stuff. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: a much more accurate version of what it would be.
Speaker 2: Like I think so too. But so like, let's take
Speaker 2: Andrea for instance. He's a bad guy in this story, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, at least I would say so, because it's
Speaker 2: like Lisa says, she uses the term devil, you know,
Speaker 2: loosely what she can do. But I do feel like
Speaker 2: there is darkness and there is light forces, and I
Speaker 2: think he falls into the camp of tightly being an asshole,
Speaker 2: so not loosely.
Speaker 3: Two things on that number one, just going back to
Speaker 3: your original question, like you know, the whole flood Mythos
Speaker 3: Timothy Alberino, he's a really an amateur archaeologist and a
Speaker 3: bit of a theologian. I don't agree with everything he says,
Speaker 3: but something that he brought to our attention on our show,
Speaker 3: which I did think was fascinating, is the Peruvian government
Speaker 3: has one explanation as to how their megalithic structures got there.
Speaker 3: But if you get to the people that are living
Speaker 3: in a way that is to say, they are descendants
Speaker 3: of the Inca. Many of those people have their own
Speaker 3: ideas and they will say that a race of giants
Speaker 3: created It wasn't even the Inca that created the megalithic structures.
Speaker 4: They found it.
Speaker 3: A race of giants created the megalithic structures. They were
Speaker 3: cannibalistic and evil. It's interesting that they even use the
Speaker 3: word cannibalistic, because that's insinuating that they share some lineage
Speaker 3: with us, or else it wouldn't be cannibalistic to eat us.
Speaker 3: But they were doing that, and their overarching kind of head,
Speaker 3: God sent floodwaters to kill them. And so fascinating correlation
Speaker 3: right there. But as far as is he a good
Speaker 3: guy or is he a bad guy? You know, when
Speaker 3: I started this whole conspiracy journey, you have to start
Speaker 3: to attribute some sort of attributes to like the proverbial they.
Speaker 4: Who is the they that is pulling all the strings?
Speaker 3: Who on earth has the ability to play this long
Speaker 3: of a con that has this many moving parts, And
Speaker 3: now all these years later the juice, Now, all these
Speaker 3: years later, I'm very comfortable with the idea that like
Speaker 3: it's compartmentalized, much like a Bob Lazar story when he
Speaker 3: goes to S two and he's like, I'm only in
Speaker 3: charge of propulsion. There are other people in charge of
Speaker 3: like metallurgy and stuff. We're not allowed to swap ideas.
Speaker 3: I think the compartmentalization that exists within this structure actually
Speaker 3: is like a pyramid.
Speaker 4: Somebody close to.
Speaker 3: The top is communicating knowingly and purposely with entities, but
Speaker 3: that is a very small group, and some of them
Speaker 3: are even possessed by them. But the further you go down,
Speaker 3: there are times when you know, Top and Eye Nephelin
Speaker 3: Deth Squad find ourselves on a topic or moving culture
Speaker 3: in a strange way that like we didn't antic shit
Speaker 3: goes viral on Twitter. Next thing you know, Milo Yuanopolis
Speaker 3: is calling himself a dangerous retard, which is the namesake
Speaker 3: of one of our show.
Speaker 4: And it's like, either we're really good at branding, or.
Speaker 3: Ideas are alive in some way and maybe they are
Speaker 3: disseminated by a spiritual realm. And I think so many
Speaker 3: of us are not aware of the ways in which
Speaker 3: we move and how it relates to other things.
Speaker 4: And so when it comes to Andrea j.
Speaker 9: Buharaj.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know that he is a bad guy.
Speaker 3: He might have been told that he's special. He might
Speaker 3: have been told that it's important what he's doing, and
Speaker 3: he might have been told that he needs to, you know,
Speaker 3: spearhead this thing and push them into push it into
Speaker 3: the culture. It's very far and few in between that
Speaker 3: you can get anybody to engage in knowing evil.
Speaker 4: We're not really like that.
Speaker 9: Human beings, we don't really like Andrisia did exactly what
Speaker 9: he was supposed to do.
Speaker 2: He was an unaware bad guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're willing doing.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean one one more thing I was going to
Speaker 8: say before we get off the topic and we're running
Speaker 8: out of time, is in the seventies early seventies, poo
Speaker 8: Horridge actually has a patent for the electro decay of
Speaker 8: water that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was actually driving around the.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was driving around the country in a motor
Speaker 8: home that he had converted to run on water. So
Speaker 8: this is the earliest story, even before the guy in
Speaker 8: the eighties that had the car that they say disappeared
Speaker 8: that ran on water. But yeah, so poo Horridge seems
Speaker 8: to be the origin of this running a vehicle on
Speaker 8: water every day as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's dipping his toe into everyone's pond that.
Speaker 3: It makes me feel bad. It makes me feel like, damn, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm not inventing shit. I'm literally just telling you stuff
Speaker 3: that has already happened and is already existing. I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I'm researching something that somebody else did research on it. Like, damn,
Speaker 3: this guy, you know, say what you about him?
Speaker 4: He was a pioneer. He was a trail blazer. And
Speaker 4: are we, you know, uh better for all of the
Speaker 4: things that he.
Speaker 3: Explored now, probably probably not, but he certainly explored them
Speaker 3: first man, and he certainly, uh, he certainly was a
Speaker 3: trail blazer.
Speaker 9: Here's a question. Would you have liked to interview him
Speaker 9: or talk to him?
Speaker 5: Hell?
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like, yeah, all.
Speaker 2: You gotta do to be a trailblazer, I guess is
Speaker 2: come with demons, splice your neck open, bleed into a cup,
Speaker 2: feed it to a baby, you know, just a basic thing,
Speaker 2: just right, Yeah, put some mushrooms in your bee hole.
Speaker 2: These are things. These are just the basic things.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know the Ecclesiastes, right, I spoke
Speaker 3: of Ecclesiastes famously says, it's nothing new under the sun
Speaker 3: that truer and truer every single day of my life,
Speaker 3: not even every episode. I do like every day of
Speaker 3: my life, I'm exposed to something that has some ancient connectivity.
Speaker 3: You know, it happened way back in the day, it
Speaker 3: happens slightly different. And so in that way, whatever Pouhari
Speaker 3: is doing, maybe it's not champion him too much. He's
Speaker 3: probably just rehashing and definitely is rehashing old principles, old ideas,
Speaker 3: old technology.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know if he's a bad guy.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I would say the amount of
Speaker 3: actual bad guys is probably you know, when they say
Speaker 3: like the proverbial one percent, of that one percent, there's
Speaker 3: probably uh ten percent.
Speaker 4: So I don't know what that I'm not good at math,
Speaker 4: don't make me do it.
Speaker 3: But I would say of that one there's probably like
Speaker 3: ten percent that are actually evil.
Speaker 4: And those people are.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, they're channeling, their communicating, yes, and some
Speaker 3: of them are channeling and communicating and still think they're
Speaker 3: good guys. There is a small sub sect of those
Speaker 3: that are in the know. Because there has to be right, Like,
Speaker 3: we can't be sitting here musing about these things, wondering
Speaker 3: about whether or not they're rebranding and gonna, you know,
Speaker 3: cast themselves as our saviors, and shit, we didn't. That's
Speaker 3: not We're not smart, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 3: somebody else is smart, and so somebody else at the
Speaker 3: top has to know that. And I do believe that
Speaker 3: that's true.
Speaker 4: I do believe.
Speaker 3: The more and more I look at this, the more
Speaker 3: I go, oh, this is a rebranding. In fact, our
Speaker 3: first appearance on tinfoil hat, that was the narrative that
Speaker 3: we were going with, that this is the fallen you know,
Speaker 3: because people don't like when you say aliens or demons.
Speaker 3: It's like in the Bible they say Devil's demons and
Speaker 3: unclean spirits and there's a little bit of nuance there.
Speaker 3: But I think within those three categories there's actually much
Speaker 3: more nuance. It would be a good thing if we
Speaker 3: could figure out the language to convey that to people,
Speaker 3: because that narrative of aliens or demons is getting very tired.
Speaker 3: But that lens of like I think these are just
Speaker 3: ancient entities rebranding themselves has just bore good fruit after
Speaker 3: good fruit after good fruit, we keep finding more and
Speaker 3: more valid connections. And I know that's also called confirmation bias,
Speaker 3: but we all engage in that into some degree. I
Speaker 3: have a theory and I'm trying to parse it out
Speaker 3: and see if there's any veracity to it, and it
Speaker 3: just it's the gift that keeps on giving.
Speaker 4: So I don't think that we found that. I think
Speaker 4: somebody has to know.
Speaker 5: Sure. Yeah, we're almost about two hours now, so maybe
Speaker 5: we'll wrap it up here. That was a really long,
Speaker 5: in depth, interesting chat. I really appreciate all of you
Speaker 5: for coming on for that. I mean there was a
Speaker 5: lot said here. I think a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. This was fun man, Hell yeah
Speaker 5: it was yeah. I really like, yeah, maybe we'll do
Speaker 5: this again one day in the future.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of good stuns I would like to
Speaker 4: say too.
Speaker 3: Typically, like to top does a show with like five people,
Speaker 3: I only do a show with you know, two or three,
Speaker 3: and then I could guest. And typically these things are
Speaker 3: very hard to navigate. You guys do a killer job
Speaker 3: at this if like allowing everybody to speak, because you
Speaker 3: get a bunch of people excited about a topic and
Speaker 3: everybody just wants to shout over.
Speaker 4: I'm guilty of that.
Speaker 3: Like crazy, I always have to reel it in, and
Speaker 3: so I just want to say, this is an excellent conversation.
Speaker 3: You guys are great and this really played out nicely.
Speaker 3: I think it for a good listening experience, which for
Speaker 3: a lot of shows isn't always the case when you
Speaker 3: have this many people.
Speaker 4: But I think we nailed it.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, no, that is one thing I have
Speaker 5: to admit with the show. Whenever we have I mean,
Speaker 5: we've had more people on than this at a time,
Speaker 5: it actually goes really well. So yeah, I had a
Speaker 5: feeling it would work out well today. We'll have to
Speaker 5: do it again in the future. Like I said, real quick, guys,
Speaker 5: please plug your stuff. We'll start with you top Lobster.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can go to toplopster dot com. That's where
Speaker 9: I run my merchandising business and go there, buy a
Speaker 9: T shirt, or check us out at Nephlim Desk Squad.
Speaker 9: That's a Nephilim however you spell that deathk Squad at
Speaker 9: where everywhere if you like. If you like insane racist comedy,
Speaker 9: you can go to Tower Gang as well and Dangerous
Speaker 9: Retards that's going to be a fun show. We talked
Speaker 9: to our normy friend who has a very large political audience,
Speaker 9: and we tell him crazy shit and then we see
Speaker 9: what he says.
Speaker 5: Yes, awesome, Thank you very much. And uh, Raven, you
Speaker 5: want to add anything?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys can find me on Twitter. I'm most
Speaker 3: active on there. That's at David L. Corbo Corbo and yeah,
Speaker 3: go and find Neflim Death Squad wherever a Ken. This
Speaker 3: is the kind of conversations that we're having regularly on
Speaker 3: this show, and so if you're a fan of the
Speaker 3: Occult Rejects, you might find yourself being a fan of
Speaker 3: Neflim Death Squad.
Speaker 5: Highly suggest said yeah, definitely go check out their channel.
Speaker 5: I really do think there are topics over there that
Speaker 5: you are very interesting. That's why I asked them all
Speaker 5: and everybody else. You got Jim the Ninja, we got Julia,
Speaker 5: and we got Robbie Marks. I got all of their
Speaker 5: links in the bottom now and if they're not I
Speaker 5: will make sure they are after the slide where I'm
Speaker 5: pretty sure they're there already. Thank you all very much
Speaker 5: again for joining me. I thought that was again an
Speaker 5: amazing episode. There was a lot going on in the chat.
Speaker 5: I got lost in there for most of the show.
Speaker 5: Thank you everybody who jumped in, especially all the comments
Speaker 5: from the Nephylum Death Squad fans and listeners. That's what's up.
Speaker 5: I was able to see him on my end in
Speaker 5: stream Yard. A lot of good stuff, man, I really
Speaker 5: appreciate it, and I'm really glad we went live. And
Speaker 5: that is the end of another Occult Rejects and until
Speaker 5: the next one, everybody be well later