1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Check it out college football on the West Coast. This 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,000 is Get Off My Pylon, a look at the PAC 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,839 twelve and more, part of the College Gridiron Coast to 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,519 Coast podcast network. 5 00:00:13,919 --> 00:00:15,679 Speaker 2: Here's your host, that Zemmo. 6 00:00:16,839 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 3: Welcome to the LA's edition of Get Off My Pilon 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,399 college football podcast. 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: This is your host, Matt Zemach. 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,839 Speaker 3: This is part of the College grid airon Coast to 10 00:00:23,879 --> 00:00:28,359 Coast podcast network. 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So another college 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,240 Gridron podcast coming your wave with here with Get Off 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,119 My Pylon covering Western college football in the United States. 16 00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:50,079 And you know, once more, we have a wave of 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,280 realignment stuff to have to talk about, not our preference 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,840 to talk about, but we obviously have to deal with 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,560 that just because it's just so prominent, front and center 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,159 in the news, and a lot of Western schools and 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,519 Western conferences are affected by all of this, so we 22 00:01:05,599 --> 00:01:06,280 have to deal with it. 23 00:01:06,359 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: Off the top. So, Utah State to the PAC. 24 00:01:09,239 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: Twelve and apparently UNLV and Air Force did sign agreements 25 00:01:16,359 --> 00:01:18,480 to stay in the Mountain West. But with Utah State 26 00:01:18,519 --> 00:01:20,680 going to the PAC twelve, what that's meant is that 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:26,280 the Mountain West membership isn't uniformly on board, and that 28 00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:30,120 gives UNLV and Air Force reason to say, hey, this 29 00:01:30,359 --> 00:01:33,280 is not what we signed up for. You know, we 30 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:36,840 signed up for the full conference, you know, the members 31 00:01:36,879 --> 00:01:41,079 staying behind, remaining together, and that meant Utah State. So 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,879 Utah State going to the PAC twelve has thrown a 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,560 monkey wrench into all of this. UNLV and Air Force 34 00:01:47,799 --> 00:01:50,840 are reconsidering options, at least as we record this show 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,239 early in the week on a Tuesday day after Monday's 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,760 whirlwind of realignment news. So well, who would have thunk 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,560 it right, Utah State being at the center of a 38 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:08,840 power struggle within the Mountain West, and we have the 39 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:12,240 PAC twelve suing the Mountain West not for exit fees, 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,879 but for penalty fees relating to PACK twelve Mountain West 41 00:02:18,039 --> 00:02:21,280 scheduling agreements. But it's not the exit fees, but it's 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,080 separate penalty fees that the PAC twelve doesn't want to pay. 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,120 And this is all just a clown car. This is 44 00:02:30,159 --> 00:02:35,479 all very sad, very pathetic. You wonder why the PAC 45 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:38,680 twelve and Mountain West aren't merging and the value of 46 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,199 a merger for those who haven't heard it already written 47 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,000 about and talked about it a lot at Trotan's Wire 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,840 and other places over the past year or so. But 49 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:52,199 if the PAC twelve and Mountain West merge, we're not 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,680 talking about exit fees. 51 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: No one has to. 52 00:02:54,879 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: Pay exit fees or penalty fees to anyone else the conference. 53 00:02:59,199 --> 00:03:01,240 The two conferences can get along, they could have a 54 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:05,599 larger membership so they cover the Pacific and Mountain time 55 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:09,240 zones and the various markets within. You could get a 56 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:13,280 pretty good basketball league from this. You know, the Mountain 57 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:16,199 West has been really good in college basketball. The PAC 58 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,080 twelve has lost UCLA and Arizona, So you know, hey, 59 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:26,639 bringing in not just San Diego State in Colorado State, 60 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,599 but bringing in you know, New Mexico UNLV, you know 61 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,879 that would carry real value. And of course the PAC 62 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,360 twelve is in discussions with Gonzaga. Nothing official, nothing final 63 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,840 on that front. But you know, if the PAC twelve 64 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,840 did merge with the Mountain West, you'd think, hey, maybe 65 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:50,280 that makes things a little bit more appealing to Gonzaga 66 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,319 in terms of going into a basketball league where, hey, 67 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,000 you get to play at the Pit in Albuquerque, you 68 00:03:57,039 --> 00:03:59,400 get to play San Diego State, you get to play 69 00:03:59,479 --> 00:04:03,280 Boisees Date, you get to play Colorado State, you get 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,280 to play in Vegas at UNLV. You know, lots of 71 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:12,000 lots of interesting possibilities. But what the PAC twelve and 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,120 Mountain West are doing with this infighting is they're fighting 73 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:19,120 over fees. The PAC twelve apparently, you know, seems to 74 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,560 be contesting these penalty fees. But on the other hand, 75 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,759 it seems to be willing to pay the exit fees 76 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:29,040 for the four Mountain West schools that have brought in, 77 00:04:29,079 --> 00:04:33,079 and presumably it would pay would pay a portion of 78 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,240 the exit fee for Utah State. Now, why, why, if 79 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,120 you're the PAC twelve, why are you doing this? Why 80 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:44,519 couldn't instead of paying exit fees for Mountain West schools 81 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,040 that are joining your conference? Why can't you get a merger? 82 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:50,480 Why can't you agree to a deal for a merger 83 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,800 with the Mountain West. Why can't you find a more 84 00:04:54,879 --> 00:04:58,800 peaceful way to go about all of this? 85 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,319 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. And I do. 86 00:05:01,399 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: Go back to what I mentioned on last week's get 87 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:06,879 off my pile on that. You know, if why did 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,480 the PAC twelve invite these four Mountain West schools? First, 89 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:13,439 I'm not saying it was a mistake to invite those 90 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,959 four schools Boise State, Colorado State, San Diego State, Fresno State. 91 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:19,759 Not saying it was a mistake to invite them, because 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,600 you do need the southern California footprint with San Diego 93 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:25,480 State and the Aztecs. You do need the Denver market, 94 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,399 Colorado State, you know, not that far from Denver in 95 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,199 Fort Collins. You know, Fresno another school, you know, that's 96 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,000 basically in southern California, I mean north of Los Angeles. 97 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,560 But still one can reasonably call Fresno State southern California 98 00:05:41,639 --> 00:05:45,680 or at least, you know, Inland California, not that far 99 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,560 away from LA and surrounding parts. I mean, it's definitely 100 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:55,040 not northern California. So you know, you're giving yourself a 101 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,160 footprint in areas where you need a footprint. I'm not 102 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,759 saying or suggesting that it was bad to invite those schools. 103 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,600 My issue has been with the sequencing, with the order 104 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,759 of invitation. Why don't why wouldn't you invite Memphis and 105 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,279 Tulane and South Florida and Texas San Antonio. First, why 106 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,000 not get those schools on board? And then then not 107 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,120 just those four Mountain West schools you invited, but the 108 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,240 rest of the Mountain West might think, hmm, maybe now 109 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:28,839 is the time for a merger, or maybe more Mountain 110 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:33,040 West schools would have been amenable to, you know, migrate 111 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:36,040 over to the PAC twelve. Merger talks put it accelerated. 112 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,800 But by inviting the four Mountain West schools, you basically 113 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,439 fractured the Mountain West conference. You didn't create good will. 114 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,879 And yet you basically said that, Okay, we're willing to 115 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,079 pay exit fees now. Instead of paying exit fees, why 116 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:54,800 aren't you giving more money to Oregon State in Washington State? 117 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,480 Like that just that just baffles me. That shouldn't Oregon 118 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,439 State and want Washington State be pocketing at least a 119 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,279 chunk of this money instead of the money being paid 120 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,519 out for exit fees. I mean, and if the PAC 121 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,519 twelve didn't have a plan to get the eight teams 122 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,839 the eight football members it needs to be eligible for 123 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:21,759 college Football playoff qualification in twenty twenty six, If the 124 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,240 PAC twelve didn't have another plan in place. That's just 125 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:29,639 a staggering lack of foresight. It's a staggering it's also 126 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,560 a staggering failure at the negotiating table to not make 127 00:07:34,639 --> 00:07:38,920 this look appealing for the Mountain West. Hey, we get 128 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,160 to merge, we get to combine our resources, no one 129 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:46,040 has to pay any penalties. We can really have a 130 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:49,439 great basketball league that gets a lot of NCAA tournament 131 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:54,720 win shares, win units, and pump's revenue into the conference, 132 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:01,920 and we get that college football playoff eligibility just blown 133 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,199 away by the failure of negotiation. That what is so entrenched, 134 00:08:08,199 --> 00:08:13,160 what is so entrenched about all of this, What is 135 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:16,000 so entrenched about all of this that it is creating 136 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,800 this kind of Cold war. I mean, you know the 137 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:21,639 United States and the Soviet Union, that's a Cold war. 138 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,759 You know the other great conflicts around the world. You know, 139 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,920 we can understand like centuries old grievances over religion and 140 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,759 territory and all that. PAC twelve in the Mountain West 141 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:39,039 should not be having this kind of epic fight. You know, 142 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,639 just how much it is there on the table, like 143 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,799 these are these conferences aren't going to become what the 144 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,519 big twelve has become with a really robust basketball brand, 145 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,559 you know, with Arizona and Houston and Kansas and all 146 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,039 these other high end basketball schools. I mean, sorry, the 147 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,799 PAC twelve, that ship has sailed. Now, the PAC twelve 148 00:09:00,799 --> 00:09:05,039 could invite Gonzaga and Saint Mary's for basketball, but that 149 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,480 has nothing to do with football, which is which is 150 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:10,360 the main thing that we're talking about, and inviting these 151 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:15,720 other schools, And why the PAC twelve felt it had 152 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:20,240 to invite four Mountain West schools first instead of getting outside. 153 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: Schools into the fold. 154 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: And then making it so much more attractive for the 155 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:27,480 Mountain West schools to join on the back end later 156 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:28,440 on in the process. 157 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,639 Speaker 2: I just don't understand that the. 158 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:35,799 Speaker 3: Other possibility that the PAC twelve either couldn't or wouldn't pursue. 159 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,720 Why don't you invite eight schools at the same time, Like, 160 00:09:38,799 --> 00:09:41,159 why don't you invite the four Mountain West schools and 161 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,399 Memphis and Tulane and South Florida and Texas San Antonio, 162 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,120 those eight schools instead of inviting four first and then 163 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,159 hoping to get four later. Why wasn't this done in 164 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,039 a way that you invited all eight schools four from 165 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,840 the AAC four from the Mountain West all at the 166 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,519 same same time. Then you have a PAC ten those 167 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,639 eight schools plus Washington State and Oregon State, and you 168 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,039 don't need to invite others, now you, I mean, you 169 00:10:08,039 --> 00:10:11,320 could invite Gonzaga and Saint Mary's for basketball, but like, 170 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,919 you don't need any more football representatives if you get 171 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,840 four from the AAC and then your four schools from 172 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:21,960 the Mountain West. But the PAC twelve just invited four, 173 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,759 and it invited four schools without inviting also UNLV. And 174 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,039 it's just so crazy. And of course maybe things will 175 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,360 change in the coming days. But as we record this 176 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,360 get off my Pylon podcast right now, UNLV is stuck. 177 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,879 UNLV is caught in between. Should we stay in the 178 00:10:42,919 --> 00:10:46,000 Mountain West, which has now lost another member to the 179 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,440 PAC twelve Utah State, or should we now you know, 180 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:53,320 reverse course, and should we actually go to the PAC twelve. 181 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,879 Why didn't the PAC twelve invite UNLV in that package 182 00:10:57,879 --> 00:11:02,360 of schools with the other four Mountain West schools, And really, 183 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,000 why didn't the PAC twelve just invite the six Mountain 184 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,399 West schools the four that had already invited, plus Utah 185 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:17,399 State plus unlv Why was this chopped up into smaller pieces? 186 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,120 It makes no sense. But we're gonna obviously see what 187 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,200 happens in the coming weeks. I would say that, you know, 188 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,200 so there is still value inviting for the Pac twelve 189 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,279 Gonzaga and Saint Mary's as basketball only members. 190 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: We'll see if that happens. 191 00:11:36,799 --> 00:11:39,519 Speaker 3: That would, obviously, you know, juice up the Pac twelve's 192 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,360 basketball brand after the departures of Arizona and UCLA to 193 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:48,240 the Big twelve and Big Ten, respectively. But if I'm 194 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,919 and let's just briefly look at this from Gonzaga's point 195 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:53,600 of view, wouldn't you rather join the Big twelve to 196 00:11:53,639 --> 00:11:56,879 play with Kansas and Arizona and Houston and those other 197 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,399 high end schools instead of going to the Pac twelve, Like, 198 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,799 if you're gonna bother to pack up your bags and 199 00:12:01,919 --> 00:12:04,840 leave the West Coast Conference, wouldn't you want to go 200 00:12:04,919 --> 00:12:08,039 to the Big Leagues? And the Big Twelve in basketball 201 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,399 is the Big Leagues? Like, there's not going to be 202 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:14,799 a deeper college basketball conference than the Big twelve. Why 203 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,919 would you leave the Pac twelve when the Big twelve 204 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,039 is sitting right there? And Brett Yormark has made overtures 205 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:23,120 to you. So if I'm Gonzaga, I'm thinking, if I'm 206 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:25,200 not going to stay in the West Coast Conference, the 207 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,720 Big twelve is clearly the more attractive option. But if 208 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:31,759 you're the PAC twelve, I think you definitely make a 209 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,440 run right now at Gonzaga and Saint Mary's. Bring them 210 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,080 in as a companions, as companions a two for one, 211 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,480 so that you know, like you wouldn't have a Pack nine, right, 212 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,279 you'd have a PAC ten. You bring in at least 213 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:48,840 one more football school to get eight, and then you 214 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:51,600 bring in Gonzaga and Saint Mary's for a new book 215 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,039 Pack ten. In college basketball, we will see what happens, 216 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,480 all right, So we had to talk about realignment. Gladly 217 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,559 that's done. Now we moved to football, and so in 218 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,720 the Western College football from Week four, no bigger game 219 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:08,679 than USC and Michigan. So most if not all, of 220 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,080 you saw it, and it was really a remarkable game 221 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,919 in the sense that you know, for eighty eighty five 222 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,759 percent of the snaps when USC was on defense and 223 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,679 Michigan had the ball, USC's defense was smothering the Michigan offense. 224 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:26,200 Michigan threw for just thirty two yards. Alex Orgy could 225 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,480 not throw a pass more than five six yards down 226 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,600 the field. It was very apparent Michigan just had no 227 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,879 passing game, No Colston Lovelin, you know, did not have 228 00:13:34,919 --> 00:13:38,200 its best tight end, its best pass catcher. So really, 229 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,000 throwing the ball was not really a consideration for Michigan. 230 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,919 And yet, and yet, despite being outplayed most of the day, 231 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,840 on most of the snaps, Michigan was able to bust 232 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,279 off three different runs that covered a total of one 233 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,360 hundred and fifty seven yards. The late game sixty three 234 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,519 yard run by Khalil Mullings puts Michigan in scoring position, 235 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,679 and the Wolverines were able to ram the ball in 236 00:14:01,759 --> 00:14:03,919 on fourth and goal from the two. You know, it 237 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,559 wasn't fourth in inches, this was a two yard play 238 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,159 while just inside the two yard line, and Michigan is 239 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,600 just able to sledge hammer the ball off tackle to 240 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:17,919 the left and score. So it was a day in which, 241 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,639 you know, if you graded the game by snap, usc 242 00:14:23,759 --> 00:14:26,279 won most snaps, but you don't get a prize, and 243 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,240 you don't get a victory for winning most snaps when 244 00:14:29,279 --> 00:14:32,120 the few snaps that you don't win are huge, game 245 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,759 breaking plays. It was a really fascinating sports weekend because 246 00:14:36,799 --> 00:14:39,600 there were other games that played out just like this, 247 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,159 Like the Saints held the Eagles to seven points in 248 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,519 the first fifty six minutes. The Saints played great defense 249 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:49,480 against the Eagles offense, but when the game was on 250 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:52,720 the line, all the chips were on the table, Saints 251 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:56,120 couldn't get it done. Eagles got it done. Same thing 252 00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:59,639 with USC and Michigan. That USC for most of the 253 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,399 day looked like the better team and had the upper 254 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,759 hand with its defense against Michigan's offense, but on the 255 00:15:05,799 --> 00:15:08,960 one drive that really really really counted late in the game, 256 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:10,480 Michigan got it done. 257 00:15:10,879 --> 00:15:11,679 Speaker 2: USC did not. 258 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: And that's why we're talking about USC being knocked off 259 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,039 and we're talking about a real big bounce back for 260 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,279 schirl Moore and that Michigan coaching staff and that Michigan team. 261 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,000 And so you don't get a prize for coming close, 262 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,320 and you don't get a prize for winning most snaps. 263 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,759 You have to do it when it really counts. And 264 00:15:29,799 --> 00:15:32,279 so what do we make of this USC team? You know, 265 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:35,000 it was worth noting and this is also part of 266 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:39,600 our focus from week four. UCLA pushed LSU hard for 267 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:44,000 a half thirty five forty minutes in Baton Rouge, LSU 268 00:15:44,039 --> 00:15:48,279 struggled with UCLA, And so maybe LSU isn't nearly as good, 269 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,639 not even close to what we thought the Tigers would be. 270 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,240 So when you consider that USC beat LSU in the 271 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:57,759 final minute, a result that looked great at the time, 272 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,600 a few weeks later, EH that that result doesn't look 273 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:05,960 nearly as good, nearly as impressive for USC, Whereas, on 274 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,559 the other hand, Michigan getting clobbered by Texas, it says 275 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:14,480 less about Michigan's weaknesses and it says more about, Oh, 276 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:18,639 Texas really does look like a national championship team. Texas 277 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:22,279 looks like a top tier group, a national title contender, 278 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,000 Like I would I would take Texas over Georgia in 279 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,639 Austin right now, you know, like like that they're going 280 00:16:28,679 --> 00:16:31,519 to have that game in a few weeks. UH, Texas 281 00:16:31,559 --> 00:16:34,879 looks the part. And so Michigan going up against Texas 282 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,919 got toughened up UH and learned a lot more from 283 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,240 its experience against Texas than what USC gained from UH 284 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,679 going up against LSU. LSU's offensive line not special, and 285 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:52,840 the LSU people that we read and talked to before 286 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,799 the USC LSU game. LSU an Lyst told us, this 287 00:16:56,879 --> 00:16:59,399 offensive line is going to be something special. It's gonna 288 00:16:59,399 --> 00:17:01,360 be one of the best offensive lines we've ever seen 289 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,359 at LSU. That offensive line has been mediocre. It's been average. 290 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,480 Nothing special about that LSU offensive line. So while USC's 291 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:14,759 defense is clearly better than last year under Alex Grinch, 292 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:17,680 there's no question about that. Danton Lynn and the other 293 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:20,119 guys on that staff, they definitely. 294 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,519 Speaker 2: Are doing a better job. We're not. 295 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,519 Speaker 3: We're not suddenly going to say they aren't. But the 296 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,240 extent to which USC had improved that was over sold, 297 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:34,359 that was overestimated, and LSU struggling against UCLA Michigan getting 298 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,039 blown out by Texas. We can all see which game 299 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,000 was more of a growth point for these two teams. 300 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:44,759 Michigan grew a lot more from its Texas experience than 301 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,119 USC grew from its LSU experience. We have to factor 302 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,319 that in and we're continuing to process those kinds of things. 303 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,839 You know, what, what does that week one result mean? 304 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,000 What does that week two result mean? Well, now that 305 00:17:57,039 --> 00:18:00,000 we're getting in the week four, week five, we're beginning 306 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,640 to learn things, right, That's how every college football season goes. 307 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:07,759 That's part of the aftermath of USC Michigan. The other 308 00:18:07,799 --> 00:18:11,839 thing we have to deal with here Lincoln Riley. People 309 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,759 are knocking him for throwing the ball late in the game. 310 00:18:16,319 --> 00:18:19,240 You know what, there were over four minutes left. USC 311 00:18:19,319 --> 00:18:23,079 needed a first down to win that game. The idea 312 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,240 that us he just should have dumped the ball three 313 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:28,599 times into the line and punted. That's not a winner's mentality. 314 00:18:28,759 --> 00:18:32,000 That is not a winner's approach to a game. Now, 315 00:18:32,599 --> 00:18:36,559 you know, I will say that Lincoln Riley calling two 316 00:18:36,599 --> 00:18:37,519 shovel passes? 317 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: What was that? You know? 318 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: Why are you using two versions of this basically the 319 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,799 same play. Why are you not throwing the ball to 320 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:49,559 your receivers who have been getting open in the second 321 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:52,640 half against the Michigan secondary. Why aren't you just throwing 322 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,559 a pass to a receiver either in the flat or 323 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,839 like on a ten yard coral route. Why did you 324 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,440 Why did Lincoln Riley abandon that part of his playbook? 325 00:19:01,519 --> 00:19:04,480 So we all agree Lincoln Riley's play calling was poor 326 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,720 on that drive with under five minutes left, But some 327 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,359 people think he just should have run the ball three times. 328 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:14,839 I'm gonna say, no, you need to get a first down. 329 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,799 You get a first down with like four minutes left, 330 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,519 and then you can run the ball three times, because 331 00:19:21,519 --> 00:19:23,200 then you can bleed the clock all the way down 332 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,880 to two minutes. You make Michigan empty its timeouts, and 333 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,119 then you're in a position to end the game and 334 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,039 you can give the ball back to Michigan, but with 335 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,079 not nearly enough time left. As it was, Michigan got 336 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:39,720 the ball back with four minutes left. Now, of course, 337 00:19:39,799 --> 00:19:42,680 if USC had run the ball at least one more time, 338 00:19:43,279 --> 00:19:46,279 Michigan would have had one less time out, but still 339 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,599 there would have been nearly four minutes left. Michigan wouldn't 340 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,079 have had to run a Chinese fire drill on offense. 341 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,319 There still would have been time for Michigan to run 342 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:55,839 the ball. 343 00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: Probably would have. 344 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,519 Speaker 3: Had to throw a few short passes, but it wouldn't 345 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:02,599 have had to do a full on hurry up that 346 00:20:02,599 --> 00:20:05,759 that doesn't happen until the final two minutes. So really 347 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,680 USC needed to get a first down because if you 348 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,680 get a first down, then you're not in a position 349 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,200 to give the ball back to Michigan with four minutes left, 350 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:17,799 which is what actually happened. You're in a position to 351 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:20,200 give the ball back to Michigan with like two and 352 00:20:20,279 --> 00:20:23,359 a half two minutes left. There's a big difference there, 353 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,359 and coaches need to be in the mentality of we 354 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,359 need to get a first down. You can't think about 355 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,240 draining the clock and ending the game with five minutes left. 356 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,599 Because at USC got the ball with I think five 357 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,079 to eleven left in that game, You're not thinking about 358 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,680 ending the game. You're thinking about getting a first down. 359 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,000 That should be the mindset and what are our best 360 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:50,720 plays to get a first down? And then we have 361 00:20:50,839 --> 00:20:54,720 the true leverage, then we have the overwhelming advantage. But 362 00:20:54,799 --> 00:20:56,640 the idea that you should just be running the ball 363 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,359 three times in punting, no, that that there way too 364 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,400 much time to get involved in that. So to that extent, 365 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,240 that's not where Lincoln Riley failed. It was the lack 366 00:21:06,319 --> 00:21:11,160 of a creative playbook and a smart series of plays. 367 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,000 That was where Lincoln Riley fell short. The other thing 368 00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:16,599 that hasn't been talked about nearly enough with Lincoln Riley 369 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,680 against LSU in the opener, USC had to waste a 370 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,599 time out in the third quarter because a play wasn't 371 00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:27,680 getting in. That happened again against Michigan, and if you've 372 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,720 listened to me over the past several years. Here on, 373 00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:32,680 get off my pilon or you just follow me on Twitter. 374 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,480 You know this about me. You know, this is one 375 00:21:35,519 --> 00:21:37,920 of my pet peeves with coaches, not just Lincoln Riley, 376 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,279 but any coach the time using a timeout in the 377 00:21:42,279 --> 00:21:46,000 third quarter because a play doesn't get in it is 378 00:21:46,079 --> 00:21:48,359 not worth it. You need that poker tip for the 379 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,839 end of the game. And the only exceptions, the only 380 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,319 exceptions in terms of you know, okay, it's all right 381 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,440 to use a timeout in the third quarter instead of 382 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,880 saving it for the end. The options are when it's 383 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,440 fourth and inches, you know, near the goal line, or 384 00:22:05,519 --> 00:22:07,559 fourth in inches, you know, anywhere. You know you need 385 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,480 you have a few inches to make a first down, 386 00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:13,039 and you really need to score on that drive. If 387 00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:15,920 it's inches to go, then you can save the five 388 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,160 yard penalty. Then it becomes really really valuable. But if 389 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,519 it's like third and three, third and four, no, the 390 00:22:24,599 --> 00:22:27,400 five yards are not worth that much. Like you're gonna 391 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,599 need to throw the ball whether it's third and four 392 00:22:29,759 --> 00:22:32,319 or third and nine. Okay, you're gonna need to throw 393 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,279 the ball whether it's third and three or third and eight. 394 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,799 You do not use a time out if the play 395 00:22:38,839 --> 00:22:40,559 clock is dripping down. 396 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:42,759 Speaker 2: The coaches need to realize that. 397 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley needs to realize that he faltered, and he 398 00:22:46,839 --> 00:22:51,200 faltered in a way that keeps happening. Happened against LSU, 399 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,839 happened against Michigan. It's happened several times over the course 400 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,960 of his USC tenure. Lincoln Riley not measuring up. Okay, 401 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,920 said a lot about USC and Michigan. We've said a 402 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,440 little bit about UCLA and LSU. 403 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:09,079 Speaker 2: Elsewhere. 404 00:23:09,319 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 3: Washington easily handles Northwestern, no surprise there. Northwestern just doesn't 405 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,079 have much of an offense and Washington does have a 406 00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:19,599 good defense. Washington's offense is still a question mark. You know, 407 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,759 that offense fell short against Washington State and the Apple Cup. 408 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,279 But Washington's defense looks pretty solid. But but it'll be 409 00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:30,160 interesting to see now what Washington does on a Friday 410 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,559 night in New Jersey for that classic Big Ten matchup 411 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,640 Washington versus Rutgers. That one's going to be interesting. I 412 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,759 think that's gonna go right down to the wire. 413 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,599 Speaker 2: Would not be surprised at all if Rutgers pulls off 414 00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:41,839 the win. 415 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: There. 416 00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:47,599 Speaker 3: Other Western teams and other conferences we have to look 417 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:50,960 at Utah. Utah goes into stillwater. It is not easy 418 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,160 to win in stillwater. And of course Utah with Cam Rising, 419 00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:58,359 you know, being hurt, he's far from one hundred percent. Well, 420 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,240 the youths just put on their boots and they beat 421 00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:05,279 Oklahoma State anyway. Kyle Whittingham just setting the gold standard 422 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:08,519 in terms of physicality, in terms of toughness, in terms 423 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:11,519 of stamina. That's just a winning program. I mean, Kyle 424 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:15,079 Winningham a coach that I was very critical of several 425 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,359 years ago. You know, we couldn't turn the corner at Utah. 426 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,839 It took a long time for him to really figure 427 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:27,160 it out. You know, for six five years ago he 428 00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:32,359 wasn't really getting that program transforming win. Well, you know 429 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,240 in twenty twenty one he figured it out. He won 430 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:39,000 the Pac twelve, did it again the next year. Cam 431 00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:42,279 Rising gets hurt. But you know you've seen Kyle Whittingham 432 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,160 teams win games, you know, in lunch pale fashion without 433 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,599 Cam Rising the past one and a half seasons. And 434 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,880 so there's just no end to the superlatives once you 435 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,039 give to Utah for you know, finding a way and 436 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,039 the youths just do not back down from a street fight. 437 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,839 It really is their best attribute as a program. So 438 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,960 they beat Mike Gundy in Stillwater, That's no easy thing. 439 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,599 Utah very very much the favorite in the Pac twelve, 440 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,680 and of course Utah's next to that. I say PAC 441 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:20,599 twelve Big twelve. Utah now hosts Arizona in a Big 442 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,400 twelve Pac twelve game on Saturday in Salt Lake City, 443 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,000 and if Utah wins that game, the youths will cement 444 00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:31,319 themselves even more as the clear team to beat in 445 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,319 the new look Big twelve. So everything going well for 446 00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:41,720 Utah under coach wit Colorado Baylor. You know, I'm not 447 00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:44,799 gonna give Deon Sanders too much credit for a win 448 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,599 that he pulled out of his rear end on a 449 00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:49,799 Hail Mary. But I will say this Dave Randa and Baylor, 450 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,640 the clock is ticking and I think we're gonna see 451 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,920 a coach firing in Waco. Dave Randa, you know, smart guy, 452 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,880 National champion defensive coordinator. He took Baylor to a Sugar 453 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,319 Bowl win, but it's just not working out and he's 454 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,960 just not making good decisions. Like he's done a lot 455 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,640 of good things in the past, but he did not 456 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,400 have his Baylor defense playing center field on the goal 457 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,759 line at the end of that Colorado game, and why, 458 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,839 I have no idea, but he didn't, and so you're 459 00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:25,799 at Baylor defenders running backwards, scrambling trying to keep up 460 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:29,559 with Colorado receivers instead of just being on the goal 461 00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:32,720 line playing center field where they should have been. Colorado 462 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,039 ties it up on a hail Mary at the very 463 00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:38,240 end of the game, wins in overtime. So basically, Dave 464 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,279 Randa gift wrapped a win to Dion and the Buffs. 465 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,680 Colorado will take that gift. But now let's see if 466 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,079 Colorado can actually build off that victory and sustain anything. 467 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: I am still very skeptical. 468 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,559 Speaker 3: And we don't want to give Colorado too much credit 469 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,400 until that program shows that it really is serious and 470 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,480 then it can really sustain some over the course of 471 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,960 a twelve game season. We have not seen that yet. 472 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,559 I mean, people fall in love with Travis Hunter, Shadur Sanders, 473 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,759 and those are very richly talented guys, but the larger 474 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,839 overall product at Colorado very incomplete, and we need to 475 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:19,839 see a lot more from that program as we move forward. 476 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,880 Arizona State falls at Texas Tech. So the Sun Devils 477 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:29,000 finally run into a loss. Do we know how good 478 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:31,160 the Sun Devils are. Let's keep in mind they beat 479 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,799 Mississippi State at home, and okay, you're beating an SEC 480 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,559 team early in the season early September seemed like a 481 00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:43,720 really good win. But hey, we've seen Mississippi State lose 482 00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:47,599 at home to Toledo and then to Florida, and Florida 483 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,000 is not very good the past few weeks. So maybe 484 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,160 ASU beating Wyoming and also Mississippi State was more of 485 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,000 a commentary on how bad Wyoming and Mississippi State are, 486 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,000 not necessary a reflection of how good Arizona State is. 487 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,440 So we'll see how the Sun Devils evolve and how 488 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,519 they respond to the lost Texas Tech. But I will 489 00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:12,880 say this, regardless of how good you think Arizona State 490 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,480 is or isn't, if that program gets to a bowl 491 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:20,559 game this year, unquestioned success for Kenny Dillingham when he 492 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,119 already has three wins in his pockets, so yes, he 493 00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:26,599 just needs three more wins, has it has two plus 494 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,440 months to get there. Arizona State is still on course 495 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,759 for a successful season, but fresh questions have emerged in 496 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:36,279 terms of just how good those Wyoming and Mississippi State 497 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,680 victories work elsewhere in terms of western college football. Uh 498 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,319 in the United States. Uh. You know, one thing that 499 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,039 has to be said is that, uh and I know 500 00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:54,119 that Oregon and Oregon State played last weekend, but you know, 501 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,720 Oregon State getting blown out by Oregon does that game 502 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,599 mean that Oregon is fully in true back? 503 00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:02,599 Speaker 2: Maybe? Maybe? 504 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 3: I mean, there's no question that Oregon was better in 505 00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:09,200 that game. But let's remember Oregon State shut out San 506 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,680 Diego State on the road before going before going up 507 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,559 against Oregon and getting hammered. So maybe Oregon thrashing Oregon 508 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,680 State is as much a commentary on Oregon State not 509 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,480 being all that good as opposed to, you know, Oregon 510 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,359 being transcendent. Now, if that having been said, Oregon State 511 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,960 bounces back from the Oregon loss and beats Purdue. This 512 00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:37,799 invites the question just how bad is Purdue? You know, 513 00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:41,960 Purdue lost by over fifty points to Notre Dame, and 514 00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:45,680 Notre Dame is continuing to struggle with MAC programs. Notre 515 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:49,200 Dame struggled with Northern Illinois at home, didn't have a 516 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,920 great game at home against Miami of Ohio, and yet 517 00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:58,480 that Notre Dame team, which really has labored against mid 518 00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:02,240 American conference teams, that same Notre Dame team goes nuclear 519 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,160 against Purdue. Purdue loses to Oregon State. So does that 520 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,519 mean that Oregon States, you know, better than we thought, 521 00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:12,519 or does it mean that Purdue is actually the worst 522 00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:16,640 team in the Big Ten in terms of, you know, ranking. 523 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:16,759 Speaker 2: The Big Ten. 524 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: I'm not going to go to all eighteen teams, but 525 00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:24,680 through through week four what we've seen, it seems pretty 526 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,319 clear that Purdue and UCLA are the two worst teams 527 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:32,880 in the Big Ten conference. 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