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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have been pushing this alien demon stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes absolutely no sense to me because we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even proven the fact that aliens even exist. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been no proof, no evidence that aliens even exist,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we've just kind of jumped over that. We've

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<v Speaker 1>jumped over the proof and evidence of extraterrestrials actually exists,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're automatically labeling them demons. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that any of these people have ever encountered in

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<v Speaker 1>actual what could be described as a demon or an

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<v Speaker 1>evil spirit, because if they would have, then I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that they would be calling these things demons because

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<v Speaker 1>the aliens don't exist, extraterrestrials do not exist. Then if

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<v Speaker 1>they do, they're not coming here. It's an entire government.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about this so many times, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really want to get roped back into that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to release all the UFO files. We're working

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<v Speaker 2>on it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny. When I came in, I was obsessed with

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<v Speaker 3>the UFO files, and then you start getting really busy

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<v Speaker 3>worrying about the economy and national security and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But still, I've still got three more years as Vice president.

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<v Speaker 3>I will get to the bottom of the UFO files.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you sat how many presidents have we heard say that? Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get to the bottom of the UFO files.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to say the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>How many times have we heard Obama, Clinton, Bush, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>Say the exact same thing? It's a cheap way to

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<v Speaker 2>get votes.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get the bottom of this, I promise

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<v Speaker 1>next three years. Next three years, I want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I'm out there running with Erica Kirk as my

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<v Speaker 1>VP and I'm president in twenty twenty eight, that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. Brow.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Tiel is the Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's ahead of National.

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<v Speaker 2>Security finding that worth that blood for his veins peak?

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<v Speaker 4>Have I what have you done a peak?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually haven't. I have no in Dependence Day and

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<v Speaker 2>I have.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not been able to spend enough time on

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<v Speaker 3>this to really understand it. But I am going to

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<v Speaker 3>trust me, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Obsessed with this. I've already had a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>Of times where I'm like, all right, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>Area fifty one, We're going out to New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just sort of get to the bottom of this.

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<v Speaker 1>No the Area fifty one thing. Again, these people think

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<v Speaker 1>that all of the UFO secrets lie Area fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>that could be the only place in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>where it possibly is, which has been made infamous by

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<v Speaker 1>Babblesar and Babblesar story.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of Area fifty one. My feelings are similar

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<v Speaker 2>to yours. That's part of the that's been spun by

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<v Speaker 2>the Pentagon for how many years since Roswell It's been

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five years of disinformation and misinformation the Robertson Panel

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<v Speaker 2>report to the recent story from the Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was about how the Pentagon was responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for creating these UFO stories and these narratives. Now, that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that there's not an archetypical characteristic to these things.

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<v Speaker 2>That they might not have something to do with fairies

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<v Speaker 2>and shamans and those types of things related to alternate

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<v Speaker 2>realities and experiences and consciousness and various substances that take

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<v Speaker 2>you there, which they certainly do. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it has anything to do with Area fifty one and

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff from the government officials. Is it

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<v Speaker 2>just about as silly as how about we storm Area

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one. Oh my god, they're going to shoot us.

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<v Speaker 2>They must be keeping the aliens a secret, or you

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<v Speaker 2>might just be walking onto a secret military base. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably the it's probably the former that makes more sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people get really upset whenever I just say this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and then I don't, you know, provide the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>and the proof behind it. But then whenever I provide

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence and the proof, they just don't say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just like, oh, there's just no comments, there's just nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>But whenever I just say it without pulling up that

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<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon secretly planted alien Area fifty one conspiracy theory

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<v Speaker 1>to hide weapons program, which was a real article that

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<v Speaker 1>came out. We did our entire show on this from

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<v Speaker 1>the California Post. I'll bring it up. I'll bring it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bring it up just to satisfy those people that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what you're talking. You need to do

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<v Speaker 1>more research. Writer, aliens or one hundred perceive reel. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no shit I mean is responsible for the doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>They would never do that in the million years. Writer,

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, bro okay, right here, it is Pentagon secretly

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<v Speaker 1>planet area fifty one, UFO conspiracy theory the high Classified

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<v Speaker 1>Weapons Program bombshell report.

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<v Speaker 2>Although it's not really a bombshell report from the Wall

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<v Speaker 2>Street Journal, because that theory has been around on every

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<v Speaker 2>Discovery History Channel show I've ever watched in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>That the UFO story was pushed to cover up for

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<v Speaker 2>SR seventy one F one seventeen. Actually I see that

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<v Speaker 2>in the article F one seventeen Nighthawk, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>those stories that the Pentagon planted. It was all part.

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<v Speaker 2>It was part of a very very large dis and

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<v Speaker 2>misinformation campaign which also included the It also included the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that there is something that we can't explain, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is, and we should monitor uf

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<v Speaker 2>foex groups in case they find out what it is

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<v Speaker 2>before we do, or before other countries figure out what

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<v Speaker 2>it is before we do, which is kind of left

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<v Speaker 2>out of the equation. There is something there, what is it? It

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<v Speaker 2>could be plasma, it could be some atmospheric phenomenon, or

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<v Speaker 2>it could be it could be anything something we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>identified in the physical visible world. We're still learning a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about the world all the time. We're finding new things,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's probably things that maybe it's plasma. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>something else. There's probably something above us. There's probably something

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but trust me, anybody who's curious about this, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>more curious than anybody. And I've got three years of

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<v Speaker 3>the very tippy top of the classification. I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bottom of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So you haven't been in an area fifty one yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet? Not say yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Hang hangar eighteen, Right, Hangar eighteen, another one from right,

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<v Speaker 1>Potterson Air Force Bace.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Jimmy Church. I know Jimmy Church helps spread that

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<v Speaker 2>nonsense in more contemporary times. There's a TV show about it,

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<v Speaker 2>Hangar eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard that as well, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't looked into it yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, all right, well we're waiting for it.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw aliens, me, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they're aliens. I think they're demons anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a longer discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I can't let you go without qualify.

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<v Speaker 1>There it was. That was the bombshell. He does anything

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<v Speaker 1>that they're aliens, they're actually demons.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it interesting that you can say, or jd. Vance

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<v Speaker 2>Frether can say, I don't know what they are. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't looked into it. I'll get to the bottom of it, though,

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<v Speaker 2>so I he has no answers, but I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>that they're demons. If you don't, you don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. You haven't looked into it. How can you

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<v Speaker 2>even have an assessment of it. I don't understand how

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<v Speaker 2>that works.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter, Ryan, It's demons, that's all you need

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<v Speaker 1>to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you considered that this factors into this new quote

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say in air quotes religious revitalizing of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to rededicate the country to God and Christ

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<v Speaker 2>is king. I think this factors into it as a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of semi sophisticated form of propaganda to get people

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<v Speaker 2>riled up about, Oh, their demons are attacking us. They're

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<v Speaker 2>probably Muslims. They're going to crash UFOs into buildings, is

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<v Speaker 2>what I would expect them to say. At some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I believe that Luel Zondo was the first person

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<v Speaker 1>on this bandwagon. You don't remember that from around two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago where you said that the aliens or demons.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, this was also pushed in the dan Fara documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>Right the age of disclosure they were talking about that

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<v Speaker 2>in this documentary too.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch that documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's oh yeah, well you didn't miss anything. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever watched a UFO documentary, it was basically the same documentary,

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<v Speaker 2>but just released more recently. It was the same people

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<v Speaker 2>and most people that have been caught selling the most

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<v Speaker 2>absurd lies. I mean Louis Elazondo and to the Stars Academy.

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<v Speaker 2>They promised to build spaceships and they took all the

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<v Speaker 2>money and never build anything with it. There's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of that happening on the internet, happening in the

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<v Speaker 2>UFO community. But there's a bunch of that. And Dan

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<v Speaker 2>farr is the guy. He went on Joe Rogan and

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<v Speaker 2>he told Joe Rogan, He's like, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that Donald Trump's going to be the disclosure president. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I mean it was like, what seventy two hours later,

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly but he's, oh, Trump's going to disclose UFOs. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because Dan Farres said that on Joe Rogan, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people watched Joe Rogan and got the idea

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<v Speaker 2>and then started repeating it. And then suddenly the president's

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<v Speaker 2>daughter said, oh yeah, he's thinking about disclosing it. So

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<v Speaker 2>was Dan Farr a plant to plant that idea in

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<v Speaker 2>the minds of the public, or was the idea just

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<v Speaker 2>like genuinely like was it genuinely the president's and Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Farr just happened to know that. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the case. I think it was a plant. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's propaganda. I don't buy it. I don't believe it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I certainly wouldn't trust a government that's lied to

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<v Speaker 2>me for seventy five years about something suddenly tell me

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<v Speaker 2>that it's true. I don't know why people think that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good idea, because they're going to feed you

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<v Speaker 2>that you want to hear, Which goes back to that

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<v Speaker 2>Wall Street Journal article, the one that you pulled up,

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Post version of the Wall Street Journal article.

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<v Speaker 2>If you trust the government they're going to disclose aliens

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<v Speaker 2>or UFOs, but you don't trust that they ran to

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<v Speaker 2>disinfo campaign. But if the same Wall Street Journal had

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<v Speaker 2>published aliens are Real, that's the headline, you would believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you'll believe it if it confirms your belief, but

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<v Speaker 2>you won't believe it if it doesn't confirm your belief.

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<v Speaker 2>We're dealing with a lot of faith here more than

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<v Speaker 2>fact or reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Writer, As you know, that is the way that it

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<v Speaker 1>is with everything. People want their confirmation bias to be confirmed,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it's not, then they don't want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>But this gentleman is getting ready to get into that

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<v Speaker 1>change with Obama.

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<v Speaker 4>Here invents Barack Obama is on this podcast and he goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>aliens are real, but like, here's where they're not. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, so Obama says, he gets asked point like

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<v Speaker 4>alien are aliens really?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and he goes, but they're not an area.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifty one and well where are they?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, there's a great question.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think they're demons?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, I think that celestial beings who fly around,

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<v Speaker 3>who do weird things to people. I think that the

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<v Speaker 3>desire to describe everything celestial, everything is otherworldly, to describe

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<v Speaker 3>it as aliens. I mean, every great world religion, including Christianity,

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<v Speaker 3>the one that I believe in, has has understood that

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<v Speaker 3>there are weird things out there, and there are things

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<v Speaker 3>that are very difficult to explain. And I naturally go

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<v Speaker 3>when I hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon, that's

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<v Speaker 3>where I go to is the Christian understanding that extra natural?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a new word? I don't know if I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard anyone ever say that extra natural? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a new species of aliens?

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan, Yeah, I've never heard that. He Maybe he misspoke,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe they've coined yet another new term. It's UAPs

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<v Speaker 2>an extra natural phenomenon. It's no longer UFOs and.

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<v Speaker 3>The like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's extra natural, extra extra, Come get your natural.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like extra strength, or you want long lasting or

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<v Speaker 2>extra strength.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough to make aliens more menacing. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do. We'll just add extra onto the front of it,

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<v Speaker 1>extra natural, extra aliens.

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<v Speaker 2>This particular interview, just for the record, this is Benny Johnson, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I see the Benny shows as Bennye Johnson. Benny Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know who he used to

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<v Speaker 2>work for. He used to be a director for Turning Point,

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<v Speaker 2>you say. And a lot of the people that work

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<v Speaker 2>for Turning Point USA, or still do work for Turning

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<v Speaker 2>Point US, say, like Josh Hammer. They're all in on this,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all repeating the same types of talking points,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's about Iran or it's about Islam or it's

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<v Speaker 2>about UFOs and aliens, or it's about the involvement of everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>including the Chinese, involved in Charlie Kirk's death, with the

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<v Speaker 2>only exception of course being Israel.