Speaker 1: A lot of people have been pushing this alien demon stuff,
Speaker 1: and it makes absolutely no sense to me because we
Speaker 1: haven't even proven the fact that aliens even exist. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's been no proof, no evidence that aliens even exist,
Speaker 1: and now we've just kind of jumped over that. We've
Speaker 1: jumped over the proof and evidence of extraterrestrials actually exists,
Speaker 1: and then we're automatically labeling them demons. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that any of these people have ever encountered in
Speaker 1: actual what could be described as a demon or an
Speaker 1: evil spirit, because if they would have, then I don't
Speaker 1: think that they would be calling these things demons because
Speaker 1: the aliens don't exist, extraterrestrials do not exist. Then if
Speaker 1: they do, they're not coming here. It's an entire government.
Speaker 1: We've talked about this so many times, and I don't
Speaker 1: really want to get roped back into that.
Speaker 2: You're going to release all the UFO files. We're working
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 3: It's funny. When I came in, I was obsessed with
Speaker 3: the UFO files, and then you start getting really busy
Speaker 3: worrying about the economy and national security and things like that.
Speaker 3: But still, I've still got three more years as Vice president.
Speaker 3: I will get to the bottom of the UFO files.
Speaker 1: Have you sat how many presidents have we heard say that? Ryan,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get to the bottom of the UFO files.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: How many times have we heard Obama, Clinton, Bush, etc.
Speaker 2: Say the exact same thing? It's a cheap way to
Speaker 2: get votes.
Speaker 1: We're going to get the bottom of this, I promise
Speaker 1: next three years. Next three years, I want to do it.
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm out there running with Erica Kirk as my
Speaker 1: VP and I'm president in twenty twenty eight, that's probably
Speaker 1: going to happen. Brow.
Speaker 2: Peter Tiel is the Secretary of State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's ahead of National.
Speaker 2: Security finding that worth that blood for his veins peak?
Speaker 4: Have I what have you done a peak?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: I actually haven't. I have no in Dependence Day and
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: I have not been able to spend enough time on
Speaker 3: this to really understand it. But I am going to
Speaker 3: trust me, I'm.
Speaker 2: Obsessed with this. I've already had a couple.
Speaker 3: Of times where I'm like, all right, we're going to
Speaker 3: Area fifty one, We're going out to New Mexico.
Speaker 2: We're just sort of get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 1: No the Area fifty one thing. Again, these people think
Speaker 1: that all of the UFO secrets lie Area fifty one
Speaker 1: that could be the only place in the United States
Speaker 1: where it possibly is, which has been made infamous by
Speaker 1: Babblesar and Babblesar story.
Speaker 2: The idea of Area fifty one. My feelings are similar
Speaker 2: to yours. That's part of the that's been spun by
Speaker 2: the Pentagon for how many years since Roswell It's been
Speaker 2: seventy five years of disinformation and misinformation the Robertson Panel
Speaker 2: report to the recent story from the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2: I believe it was about how the Pentagon was responsible
Speaker 2: for creating these UFO stories and these narratives. Now, that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that there's not an archetypical characteristic to these things.
Speaker 2: That they might not have something to do with fairies
Speaker 2: and shamans and those types of things related to alternate
Speaker 2: realities and experiences and consciousness and various substances that take
Speaker 2: you there, which they certainly do. But I don't think
Speaker 2: it has anything to do with Area fifty one and
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff from the government officials. Is it
Speaker 2: just about as silly as how about we storm Area
Speaker 2: fifty one. Oh my god, they're going to shoot us.
Speaker 2: They must be keeping the aliens a secret, or you
Speaker 2: might just be walking onto a secret military base. But
Speaker 2: it's probably the it's probably the former that makes more sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people get really upset whenever I just say this
Speaker 1: stuff and then I don't, you know, provide the evidence
Speaker 1: and the proof behind it. But then whenever I provide
Speaker 1: the evidence and the proof, they just don't say anything.
Speaker 1: They're just like, oh, there's just no comments, there's just nothing.
Speaker 1: But whenever I just say it without pulling up that
Speaker 1: the Pentagon secretly planted alien Area fifty one conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: to hide weapons program, which was a real article that
Speaker 1: came out. We did our entire show on this from
Speaker 1: the California Post. I'll bring it up. I'll bring it up.
Speaker 1: I'll bring it up just to satisfy those people that, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking. You need to do
Speaker 1: more research. Writer, aliens or one hundred perceive reel. There's
Speaker 1: no shit I mean is responsible for the doing that.
Speaker 1: They would never do that in the million years. Writer,
Speaker 1: Come on, bro okay, right here, it is Pentagon secretly
Speaker 1: planet area fifty one, UFO conspiracy theory the high Classified
Speaker 1: Weapons Program bombshell report.
Speaker 2: Although it's not really a bombshell report from the Wall
Speaker 2: Street Journal, because that theory has been around on every
Speaker 2: Discovery History Channel show I've ever watched in my life.
Speaker 2: That the UFO story was pushed to cover up for
Speaker 2: SR seventy one F one seventeen. Actually I see that
Speaker 2: in the article F one seventeen Nighthawk, and of course
Speaker 2: those stories that the Pentagon planted. It was all part.
Speaker 2: It was part of a very very large dis and
Speaker 2: misinformation campaign which also included the It also included the
Speaker 2: idea that there is something that we can't explain, we
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, and we should monitor uf
Speaker 2: foex groups in case they find out what it is
Speaker 2: before we do, or before other countries figure out what
Speaker 2: it is before we do, which is kind of left
Speaker 2: out of the equation. There is something there, what is it? It
Speaker 2: could be plasma, it could be some atmospheric phenomenon, or
Speaker 2: it could be it could be anything something we haven't
Speaker 2: identified in the physical visible world. We're still learning a
Speaker 2: lot about the world all the time. We're finding new things,
Speaker 2: and there's probably things that maybe it's plasma. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: something else. There's probably something above us. There's probably something
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but trust me, anybody who's curious about this, I'm
Speaker 3: more curious than anybody. And I've got three years of
Speaker 3: the very tippy top of the classification. I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: to the.
Speaker 2: Bottom of it.
Speaker 4: Okay, So you haven't been in an area fifty one yet?
Speaker 2: Not yet? Not say yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hang hangar eighteen, Right, Hangar eighteen, another one from right,
Speaker 1: Potterson Air Force Bace.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jimmy Church. I know Jimmy Church helps spread that
Speaker 2: nonsense in more contemporary times. There's a TV show about it,
Speaker 2: Hangar eighteen.
Speaker 3: I've heard that as well, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I haven't looked into it yet.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, all right, well we're waiting for it.
Speaker 2: We saw aliens, me, I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're aliens. I think they're demons anyway.
Speaker 3: But that's a longer discussion.
Speaker 4: Well, I can't let you go without qualify.
Speaker 1: There it was. That was the bombshell. He does anything
Speaker 1: that they're aliens, they're actually demons.
Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting that you can say, or jd. Vance
Speaker 2: Frether can say, I don't know what they are. I
Speaker 2: haven't looked into it. I'll get to the bottom of it, though,
Speaker 2: so I he has no answers, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: that they're demons. If you don't, you don't know what
Speaker 2: it is. You haven't looked into it. How can you
Speaker 2: even have an assessment of it. I don't understand how
Speaker 2: that works.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, Ryan, It's demons, that's all you need
Speaker 1: to know.
Speaker 2: Have you considered that this factors into this new quote
Speaker 2: I'll say in air quotes religious revitalizing of the United States.
Speaker 2: We're going to rededicate the country to God and Christ
Speaker 2: is king. I think this factors into it as a
Speaker 2: kind of semi sophisticated form of propaganda to get people
Speaker 2: riled up about, Oh, their demons are attacking us. They're
Speaker 2: probably Muslims. They're going to crash UFOs into buildings, is
Speaker 2: what I would expect them to say. At some point.
Speaker 1: Well, I believe that Luel Zondo was the first person
Speaker 1: on this bandwagon. You don't remember that from around two
Speaker 1: years ago where you said that the aliens or demons.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, this was also pushed in the dan Fara documentary.
Speaker 2: Right the age of disclosure they were talking about that
Speaker 2: in this documentary too.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch that documentary.
Speaker 2: It's oh yeah, well you didn't miss anything. If you've
Speaker 2: ever watched a UFO documentary, it was basically the same documentary,
Speaker 2: but just released more recently. It was the same people
Speaker 2: and most people that have been caught selling the most
Speaker 2: absurd lies. I mean Louis Elazondo and to the Stars Academy.
Speaker 2: They promised to build spaceships and they took all the
Speaker 2: money and never build anything with it. There's a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of that happening on the internet, happening in the
Speaker 2: UFO community. But there's a bunch of that. And Dan
Speaker 2: farr is the guy. He went on Joe Rogan and
Speaker 2: he told Joe Rogan, He's like, you know, I think
Speaker 2: that Donald Trump's going to be the disclosure president. And
Speaker 2: then I mean it was like, what seventy two hours later,
Speaker 2: suddenly but he's, oh, Trump's going to disclose UFOs. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: because Dan Farres said that on Joe Rogan, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people watched Joe Rogan and got the idea
Speaker 2: and then started repeating it. And then suddenly the president's
Speaker 2: daughter said, oh yeah, he's thinking about disclosing it. So
Speaker 2: was Dan Farr a plant to plant that idea in
Speaker 2: the minds of the public, or was the idea just
Speaker 2: like genuinely like was it genuinely the president's and Dan
Speaker 2: Farr just happened to know that. I don't think that's
Speaker 2: the case. I think it was a plant. I think
Speaker 2: it's propaganda. I don't buy it. I don't believe it,
Speaker 2: and I certainly wouldn't trust a government that's lied to
Speaker 2: me for seventy five years about something suddenly tell me
Speaker 2: that it's true. I don't know why people think that
Speaker 2: that's a good idea, because they're going to feed you
Speaker 2: that you want to hear, Which goes back to that
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal article, the one that you pulled up,
Speaker 2: the New York Post version of the Wall Street Journal article.
Speaker 2: If you trust the government they're going to disclose aliens
Speaker 2: or UFOs, but you don't trust that they ran to
Speaker 2: disinfo campaign. But if the same Wall Street Journal had
Speaker 2: published aliens are Real, that's the headline, you would believe it.
Speaker 2: So you'll believe it if it confirms your belief, but
Speaker 2: you won't believe it if it doesn't confirm your belief.
Speaker 2: We're dealing with a lot of faith here more than
Speaker 2: fact or reality.
Speaker 1: Writer, As you know, that is the way that it
Speaker 1: is with everything. People want their confirmation bias to be confirmed,
Speaker 1: and if it's not, then they don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: But this gentleman is getting ready to get into that
Speaker 1: change with Obama.
Speaker 4: Here invents Barack Obama is on this podcast and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 4: aliens are real, but like, here's where they're not. And
Speaker 4: you know, so Obama says, he gets asked point like
Speaker 4: alien are aliens really?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he goes, but they're not an area.
Speaker 4: Fifty one and well where are they?
Speaker 1: Right, there's a great question.
Speaker 2: So you think they're demons?
Speaker 3: Well, look, I think that celestial beings who fly around,
Speaker 3: who do weird things to people. I think that the
Speaker 3: desire to describe everything celestial, everything is otherworldly, to describe
Speaker 3: it as aliens. I mean, every great world religion, including Christianity,
Speaker 3: the one that I believe in, has has understood that
Speaker 3: there are weird things out there, and there are things
Speaker 3: that are very difficult to explain. And I naturally go
Speaker 3: when I hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon, that's
Speaker 3: where I go to is the Christian understanding that extra natural?
Speaker 1: Is that a new word? I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: ever heard anyone ever say that extra natural? Is that
Speaker 1: a new species of aliens?
Speaker 2: Ryan, Yeah, I've never heard that. He Maybe he misspoke,
Speaker 2: or maybe they've coined yet another new term. It's UAPs
Speaker 2: an extra natural phenomenon. It's no longer UFOs and.
Speaker 3: The like.
Speaker 1: It's extra natural, extra extra, Come get your natural.
Speaker 2: It's like extra strength, or you want long lasting or
Speaker 2: extra strength.
Speaker 1: It's tough to make aliens more menacing. I know what
Speaker 1: we'll do. We'll just add extra onto the front of it,
Speaker 1: extra natural, extra aliens.
Speaker 2: This particular interview, just for the record, this is Benny Johnson, right.
Speaker 2: I see the Benny shows as Bennye Johnson. Benny Johnson.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know who he used to
Speaker 2: work for. He used to be a director for Turning Point,
Speaker 2: you say. And a lot of the people that work
Speaker 2: for Turning Point USA, or still do work for Turning
Speaker 2: Point US, say, like Josh Hammer. They're all in on this,
Speaker 2: and they're all repeating the same types of talking points,
Speaker 2: whether it's about Iran or it's about Islam or it's
Speaker 2: about UFOs and aliens, or it's about the involvement of everybody,
Speaker 2: including the Chinese, involved in Charlie Kirk's death, with the
Speaker 2: only exception of course being Israel.