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Paranormal Portal podcast, and these are just encounters. They're not
first hand accounts or written for sensationalism, and you know,
it just tells what happened. So it says Charles Jackson
and his son Kevin got the shock of their lives
on an afternoon of July twelfth, nineteen sixty nine. They
were at their home in Cherokee Road in Oroville, well
southeast of Bluff Creek, which is also the sighting of
the Patterson film Patterson Gimblet film Bluff Creek, but not
very far from the Pumas Plumas National Forest. Father and
son were working peacefully in their backyard burning rabbit and trails,
which I guess is a good bonding thing. I don't
know when a huge ape like creature loped out of
the woods and stopped to stare at them. The beast
was seen seven to eight feet tall and had large breasts,
and was covered in three inch long gray hair except
on its hands and face. The Jacksons, only fifteen feet
away at the time, said that after it spotted them,
it walked up to the outhouse, looked around, and suddenly
ran back in the woods. Another Cherokee Road resident had
run in with an ape man around the same time
as the Jackson incident four weeks. For weeks, rather not
four weeks, but for weeks, Homer Stickley's farm had been
haunted by something that screamed in the woods at night
and stole apples from his trees. One moonlit night, Stickley
saw the culprit, a tall, heter suit two legged creature
that walked through a nearby meadow, pausing to stand by
a stump. By September, at least a dozen people had
reported giant ape like things running around Oroville, but the
Cherokee Road sightings remained the most documented incredible of the lot.
Six years later, people were still seeing the beasts and
finding their huge footprints in the area, but the creature
remained at large. By then, Oroville had established this itself
as another home of North America's most famous land monster,
the Bigfoot, And so there you have it. I mean,
and the the funny thing about the accounts like that is,
and this happens a lot in Bigfoot sightings, is we
think of them as these, you know, really intelligent things
that you know that and maybe they are, and I'm
not saying that they're not, but we think of them
as as you know, always aware of their surroundings and stuff.
But this just seems like an oh oh no kind
of moment, like just loped out of the woods and
was like, oh so I think they're may be more
human than we thought.
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, yeah, you know what, nobody's perfect and we
can't you know, expect Bigfoot to be are there, right,
so it's got to have the special kids.
Speaker 3: But the funny thing is about this, and this is
what's curious to me, is that there these are apparently
pretty skittish beings that they avoid us, and they very
actively avoid people. But sometimes it's just like I don't know,
I don't care, I'm walking through here, you know, and
they just they don't run. They just are observed kind
of just talking, looking over their shoulder and checking things out. Yeah, mosying.
It's like they're not stressed, they're not annoy anxiety, they're
just like owning it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're going to do it, you might as
well own it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well you know what I mean though, And that's
what I find really curious is what is happening? You
know that they're not worried, and then if they're so
care free, why don't we see them more often? You know?
So that's kind of a conundrum in my head, I guess,
in considering these things. But that's the first one, and
I think it was a good one. I liked it.
I like that one. Done, Yes, it was good. Enjoyed
it good?
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Okay, here's one that goes all the way back to
nineteen forty eight, and this is kind of cool. Reason
why is because a lot of people, a lot of
skeptics claim that, you know, the whole Bigfoot thing kind
of started in what was it, sixty seven, sixty gimlin, Yeah,
the Patterson Gimblin in sixty seven, and a lot of
people believe that just prior to that, of course, people
were finding and documenting, and just prior to that, by
not more than a few years I think was the
first penning of the name Bigfoot, and it was in
a newspaper and it was based on the fact that
they found these big tracks around this logging camp. And
it's also alleged that one of the guys that found
them was a big prankster. So people weren't really sure
what to think of it, but they did report it
on it in the newspaper and they casted it I
think as well. But most most skeptics say that that's
kind of where it started, and then just other people
ran with it and it's just been this long running joke.
But then you find you find reports from the eighteen
hundreds and you find, you know, things that predate by
a long period. There's you know, been but they used
to refer to him as wild man, you know, the
wild man sighting in Marsouri and stuff like that. So
that was prior to their being a Bigfoot name, or
people being aware of a native term that we we
understand as sasquatch, even though I think that that's actually
a bastardization of the actual native term, but it was
somebody's mistake, so it became sasquatch. But anyway, let's see
what this one is, and it comes out of it's
Calaveras County in California, near Lake Comanche, Wallace, California, nineteen
forty eight. Excuse me a little bit frogy. Nineteen seventies
veteran researcher Mike did Dardanos. Dardanos, a fish originally from
Los Banos, California, told me about a story he was
given in nineteen sixty eight that occurred in Calaveras County, California,
around nineteen forty eight. The story involved teenagers who were
fooling around shooting off their Daisy rifles and red rioder
be beguns near Lake Comanche in Wallace, California. The six
of them were led by a former commercial fisherman named Dixon,
and he was an uncle of one of the boys,
who took them out to teach them proper rifle etiquette.
During a break for lunch, the sixty eight year old
Dixon caught wind of a really foul smell, and at
first he thought his thermos had gone rank on him,
but smelling again more closely, the coffee was fine. By then.
The boys smelled the order in the air and thought
it might be a dead animal and curious as growing
boys are. After lunch, they took off to investigate the smell.
Towards the center of the lake. On the north side,
they found a rotting corpse, but only some parts of it.
What was left of it lay sprawled on the bank,
with the right half of the pelvis gone, toning down
Dardano's graphic remarks a little. He said, maggots had decimated
most of the remaining corpse, and a cloud of black
flies were thick over the large foot, which had partially
rotten in a puffy white in the water. The left
leg and left buttocks were completely covered in black hair
about one to four inches long, but nothing else was
around the area to be found of the rest of
the body. They figured that They figured what was left
of the male genitalia was probably pulled off and eaten
by coyotes, and none of them have heard of the
abominable snowman, and they thought it was probably a local
vagrant who lived in the hills. Dardanos, after hearing the
tail of a hair covered torso, went ahead and made
a note of possibly dead sasquatch found near Lake Comanche
and located west of Camp Sicco but south of Comanche
village in central California around nineteen forty eight, So apparently
they might have found a corpse. But it doesn't sound
like there was a whole lot of it left. But
the foot in one half of the pelvis and leg
I assume that could give you enough, right, I mean
it looked like a foot of a human, you know,
with the same shape, but was obviously much bigger.
Speaker 6: Sorry, well it's you know, and and and I think
it's interesting, you know, but when when bigfoot die, when
big when when sasquatches die?
Speaker 7: You know, aren't they usually.
Speaker 6: Well, unless they're by themselves, unless I guess, unless they're
a rogue or an outcast, you know, which whichever you prefer.
But aren't they usually spirited away by other, you know,
other of their troop or their tribe and clan, whatever
that may be. That's something I've got to get figured
out too. I've got to ask somebody about that. What's
the proper terminology family whatever that may be? Anyhow, But
aren't so so that would to me with this understanding,
that would have been a rogue.
Speaker 7: But you would think that, well you would think that.
Speaker 6: Somebody would know one of one of his other ex
clan would know, you know, but maybe they just don't care.
Speaker 7: I mean, you're an outcast, you know.
Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, it's hard to know. I mean, And there's
there's there's a lot of theories going around about what
what happens to these these things when they die. And
now there's allegedly report by a park ranger, and it's
apocryphal at best. I haven't ever heard it substantiated, but
he alleges that he watched a group of bigfoot carrying
another one and burying it, and observed from a distance
through binoculars the whole bearing you know, quote unquote ceremony. Now,
other people are trying to say and maybe they're right.
I don't know, but they've made the claim that when
a bigfoot dies, the rest of the family group will
consume it, and so there isn't anything left, right, including
grinding the bones down to powder and you know and
all of that. So that is civilized.
Speaker 6: That's that's shows real civilization to them, though, I mean.
Speaker 7: To be able to culture anyway.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, culture, that's that's the better way.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: It's because it shows that they're they're aware enough to
get rid of whatever the evidence may be left lying around,
you know, and it really speaks to their own kind
of spirituality, you know, you know, that kind of thing,
or or at least the way they believe.
Speaker 7: Let me say.
Speaker 6: That that's interesting, ladies.
Speaker 3: Lady in the chat said maybe they're a bad bigfoot,
like bad people and maybe maybe use the death penalty
in all seriousness, and and there's that's possible. And uh,
you know, I've I've heard that claim before, and I
know Cat made that claim as well. Well, there are
no but that that there are there are some what
am I what am I trying to say? Some some
offenses that they can do. There's very few, but if
they do, it's like a death penalty, and one of
which is killing their own kind, and the and the others.
I don't know what they what they were, and I
don't think Cat ever directly told us what it was,
but that was the indication, was that there were some
things that were just absolutely forbid, unforgivable. Yeah, And so
I don't know if it's if it's always a death penalty,
or if it's just a you know, you're on your own,
you know, which which when you're thinking of of anything,
surviving alone is incredibly tough for any any creature living
in the wilds, you know, I mean, it's not easy
for human beings either, I mean or the wild. But
when you when you're thinking of you know, you need
successful hunts. You can't get injured because if you do,
you can't hunt. You may be able to gather, but.
Speaker 6: You don't have anybody to help care for you.
Speaker 3: Right, And you don't have anybody to watch your back
when you're sleeping and stuff like that. And you know,
with the family groups alleged with the Bigfoot anyway, And
I don't know, I don't know enough about the dog
man to have any opinion of this, But there's the
idea that there are watchers. So there's you know, they
generally sleep during the day and are up nocturnally, but
during that daytime, daytime period, there are designated watchers who
take positions around the family group and watch over them
during their time of rest. And I don't know what
they do when it comes nighttime or if they maybe
stay up for more than twenty four hours at a time,
just taking their shift or whatever, but.
Speaker 7: So long freaking shift.
Speaker 3: Right, well, I mean, so do they then sleep at
the night while the other ones go out and do
their thing. I don't know. I would think that they probably,
you know, just some of them don't sleep one night
and while the others do, and then the next night
they'll get to sleep, but some other ones will have
to stay awake. You know. Maybe it's like that. I
don't know, sift right, ye who drew the short strap? Yeah?
Speaker 6: You know, And that's an interesting quest question now, I mean,
because you know how you know? And and mkat said
that he wonders about how the family is structured and
things like that, you know as well, you know, and
so you know, how how are there are you know,
you know are somebody has told us I think it
was Cindy has mentioned rogues before, the ones that have
been ostracized or kicked out or banished or you know, yeah,
you can roll with us, but you got to take.
Speaker 7: Care of yourself, you know.
Speaker 6: Whatever that is that that permanent bachelor kind of thing.
Speaker 7: I don't know, but.
Speaker 6: Anyhow, and you know, so you know, and what are
those offenses that get you banished or why do you
become rogue? Or do you do they leave because they
don't agree with something that happened with a decision, you know,
I mean, is it a political situation, you know, I
mean they've got to have their own politics in the
sense because yeah, you know, so, you know, it's it's
a lot of a lot of questions about him.
Speaker 3: And I've heard many, many different variations of that same thing,
like what does the groups look like? And generally what
I've heard is that it's usually an alpha male and
an alpha female and then they're they're offspring, and there
might be other you know, other individuals that are you know,
adult as well with that group. But there's like there's
the chief and the and the the what would the
female chief be called?
Speaker 6: I'm mama, but no, you'd alf I think a female
I think she's.
Speaker 3: Called mam because she didn't call her anything else. But
you know, and then I've heard other things where they're
talking about groups of you know, a dozen together that
you know, may not have been a family group, but
they're they're gathered together. So I don't know, and.
Speaker 7: I think I think that would be more of a
clan at that point, though.
Speaker 3: It would seem yeah, it would definitely seem.
Speaker 7: So tribe yet right.
Speaker 3: So very strange, And I I don't know enough about
the dog Man slash Wolf people and how they are
organized in all of this. Now, I've heard with that,
with that whole situation, I've heard you know, variations there
that they they are like in territorial regions alongside of sasquatch,
but they don't really mix. And then I've heard the
other thing where they are you know, tolerant of each
other and kind of live around each other. And then
I don't know, I know that it seems in terms
of dog men, it seems that they're that their habitat
is really much more closely aligned with waterways, right, and
they definitely stay near water at all times, more so
than the bigfoot slash sasquatch. And I don't know what
it is about their physiology that makes them stay near water,
but they seem to travel always around waterways for the
dogmen and you know slash wolf people, you know, And
I don't know if that's true or not, but I
know Linda got Free has mentioned that, Shelle Dionn has
mentioned that, so, you know, from both of them, I
would definitely regard it as as probably pretty good, pretty
pretty possible at that point. But yeah, Linda, in all
of her research, of course, she's very methodical and very
very organized with this, and she made that that observation
that waterways are are always right near wherever dog man
sightings are. So then you get into other fringe ones
like these, you know, other things like the rake, for instance,
and honestly, we just don't know anything about them. I mean,
they're these and ladies and gentlemen. If you haven't heard
of a term like of the rake, they are essentially
these I don't know, spidery thin beings that look like
bald people and they aren't clothed. They're just kind of
running around. And now if you look on the internet,
there's lots of famous pictures going around of what the
rake is, but it looks like this creepy little thing.
It kind of looks like a smiegel, you know, the
the what is.
Speaker 7: It, goll Schegel here.
Speaker 3: Gollem Schmegel, different names of the same thing, but it
kind of looks like that, except man sized and uh
but bald and hairless, clothesless, but they kind of crawl
around the same way. And what I've heard of their descriptions,
but I got a couple of stories of the rake
pulled up and I don't know, Honest to god, I
have no idea, whether they're at all credible or just
creative writing, because when it comes to the Rake, it's
so hard to find anything worth mentioning with them or
or you know, any kind of encounter stories, because the
encounters are so incredibly rare now, as what Shelle was
saying about them is that they are these incredibly aggressive,
horrible things. And she said that she had much rather
meet a dog man, way more so than she'd want
to meet another rake, because she had an encounter with one.
And you know, if they are absolutely that that's that horrible,
and it seems they are. But if they are, I
you know, I hope I never do seem But you
think about it, so why are there so few sightings?
Well maybe the rake is just that much more lethal
and doesn't care, so that no victims left alive, right,
and there's no witnesses because whatever saw it was probably
on the menu, you know, And that's a creepy feeling.
But you think about the missing four one one stories, right,
and you know the other missing people in and around
cities and in rural areas, you know, they just kind
of disappear, and what if it was some of these
were the Rake and that's why there's so few stories,
is that there's nobody left alive to talk about it,
you know, or very few. Yeah, So I don't know
if that's if that could be it or not, but
I certainly am curious about it, and it's it's concerning.
But I don't even I can't even tell you, honest
to God, where they're sighted most I really know that
little about them. But a lot of people believe that
the rake is also one of the origins for the
legend of the slender Man. Let's get back into some
of these squatch reports, because I've got tons of them. Now,
this is just now, this should be a good one actually,
because it's a bow hunter story, and a lot of
times bow hunters have the most incredible encounters with these
with the bigfoots and sasquatch, because you know, they're kind
of out there and in being stealthy. Yeah, there's no
big report when they take something down, So it's a
it's a very very stealthy kind of hunting. And you know,
they have to be stealthy and they have to be
you know, quiet, otherwise they'll scare the prey away. So
bow hunters are probably the most skilled hunters out there
and my opinion. But I wrote this almost twenty five
years ago. I have no idea how many times it
has been published since then. And I also have nothing
more to add. I make no observations regarding the following.
It was. It was as I've written in August twenty third,
nineteen sixty and I've been out in my own for
six months, living by competing at rodeos. I was only sixteen,
and it just finished a rodeo in Washington, and had
a couple hundred in my pocket, and three fellow hands
asked me to go out with them on a canoe
trip in BC, British Columbia, so to get their winter meat.
And they were all BC natives, and he names them.
I don't know if I need to do that, but
he said. He said they had lots of equipment and
neew the area and to the north and east of
Risky Creek Riske Creek, and they would launch the freighter
canoes twenty foot long with seven point five or seven
and a half avenue kickers at a place near Horseley,
east of Williams Lake, and go north and east from
up there a string of lakes and rivers and We
took two canoes with thirty five gallons of spare gas,
spare prop, and one hundred sheerpins. You got to have
sheerpins when you're going to have an outboard mortar. Oh man,
I can't tell you how many times I popped the
sheerpin on an outboard in the fishing boat back home.
But we had a tent in each canoe, and a
rifle and shotgun, two fishing rods, one tackle box, bedrolls
and grub box. And we traveled light because we knew
there would be portages, and since they were all natives,
could shoot anything as we went. The word portage refers
to the practice of carrying a canoe or other boats
over land to avoid an obstacle on the water routes,
such as rapids or a waterfall. Excuse me. We had
twenty pounds of flour, salt, pepper, tea lard, pemmican, and
tobacco to give to natives we encountered. The word for
pemmican is a concentrated mixture of fat and protein used
as a nutritious emergency food stuff that gives all the
history of pemmican. Wow. But my friends, my friends were
about twenty to thirty twenty to twenty three years old,
and I was really the baby. The first two days
were absolutely uneventful. We made good time and moved steadily
up a series of lakes and creeks. And the first
night we camped had an abandoned mine of some sort
and dined on fresh fish and rice and beans. And
day two of the stream got an arrow or and
swifter and we had two portages and we still we
made nearly fifty miles. Well that's moving in our canoe,
Jim and I. We had the Winchester Model TENE ten
thirty at six and my twelve gage Model twelve. Pump
ducks and geese were everywhere, and we had those for dinner.
And the next night fixed with some French name I
can't recall. You picked them, rubbed them with large and
season them. A green branch is bent into a ue
and inserted in the cavity, and they are suspended over
the coals. The best duck I ever ate. Sounds good.
I'm getting hungry what reading this? On day three, Kidd
and Earl in the lead canoe, rounded a bend and
shot a young moose about six hundred pounds and we
spent four hours dressing and boning and caching the meat
on an elevated platform. It froze every night. So we
were at the base of a small lake. As we
were working, three canoes with natives came down the lake
at full speed and kid waved them in, and there
were four adult males and two maybe teenagers, and three
adult women and one girl of about ten. I assumed
they were an extended family. And we gave them about
one hundred pounds of meat and some flour and tea
and tobacco. That was really nice. They spoke no English,
at least not in front of me, and I understand
not one word except twice when one of the women
said sasquash, and I laughed twice. At the time I
assumed she was making a joke for me. They left
after smoking with us and giving us three big whitefish
and some pemmican. We took maybe twenty pounds of prime meat,
cashing the rest under the tarp and some bark, and
the platform was standard cash for that area, about twelve
feet off the ground. And we went on still heading
north and east, and we left the small lake and
went through a shoot into another lake and then east
into a smaller river. This stream was maybe forty to
sixty feet wide and medium swift, and about seven about seven,
we started looking for a campsite and found one on
the north bank and a bend of the river. The
right bank was covered with boulders round by glaciation and current,
but left bank was clear with a flat area under
some trees. We were all tired and hit the sack
before full dark. It doesn't get dark there until tomorrow.
It doesn't get dark there until tomorrow. I don't know
what that means. Excuse me. Sometime maybe two or three
in the morning, Jim and I were awakened by a
loud crash in the campsite. Thinking bear, we grabbed our
guns and kicked back the tent flap nothing. Jim had
a flashlight and turned it on, and Earl and Kid
were now out in the tent and armed out of
the tent rather and a boulder about the size and
shape of a bowling ball had just destroyed our dutch
oven and part of our cookbox. We stood around trying
to sort things out when a second boulder hit Kid
in Earl's tent dead center. It came straight down through
the trees, and I was standing there open mouthed when
both Kid and Jim grabbed me and Earle and drug
us deeper into the trees. Naturally, there was a lot
of discussion, but I won't relate the tenor of that.
We spent the rest of the short night in a circle,
back to back, safeties off. From time to time we
would hear some more rocks hit, and once, just once,
some sort of strange hooting from the other side of
the river. After after good sun up, we slowly crept
back to camp and one tent was toast, as were
the cookbox and most of the cooking equipment. I counted
nine rocks, ranging from the size of a bowling ball
to a beach ball sized. Good god, that's heavy, the
largest weighing maybe one hundred and fifty to two hundred pounds. Fortunately,
the canoes were undamaged, and we quickly pulled up camp
and started out. We got to the meat cash that
morning and it was gone, not destroyed, gone totally one
hundred percent gone. No logs, no rope, no meat, no carcass.
And I have no opinion. We ran. We ran wide
open going out and camped that night in the canoe
in the middle of a lake. Jim and Kid are
now dead, killed in a float plane crash some years ago. Earle,
I don't know about. I'm certain of only five things
regarding that trip. One those rocks were not on the
bank where we pitched tent, and we where we pitched camp,
and we pitched camp says both times. And they were
not carried into our camp. They were thrown No human
being did it. I have no desire to ever again
go into that country. And number five, I am not
a believer or a skeptic, but I don't exactly discount
much if it were if which I don't understand. And
as for the lack of scientific evidence, it is just
in recent times that we have learned that Caucazoids lived
in North America as long as twelve thousand years ago.
If our ancestors had not lived in villages with middens,
they had roamed in groups of two or two or three,
we might still not know about cloth a Clovist woman
or many of them. Get something to read.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Actually I found that Yahwie report from It's from
the Northern Star, which is down in Queensland. I believe
Australia yowie attacks Queensland driver. A driver who says a
hoholking yowi thump the bonnet of his truck has been
plagued by nightmares and says spotting.
Speaker 7: The creature was the worst experience of his life.
Speaker 6: The fifty three year old is told of a terrifying
encounter with Australia's version of Bigfoot while driving through a
bushy part of the Gold Coast hinterland last November. The
truck he wants to be identified only as Gary, describing
how he was forced to slam on the brakes when
the creature emerged from the bush in broad daylight at
withern He eyeballed the three meter tall yawi before thumped
the bonnet of his truck before milting into the dense forest.
Speaker 3: What do you mean thump like dumped on?
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, yeah. It was the worst thing that has
ever happened to me, he told the bulletin. I tried
to push it to the back of my head and
I think that was it just can't be real. I
just couldn't get it out of my mind. I was
having trouble sleeping at night. Gary said prior to his encounter,
he never believed in such a creature and was fearful
of people's reactions to a story, including what his wife
would make of it. In the end, she believed him.
He said, it's an unfortunate coincidence that the can't dash
cam on Gary's truck was being serviced that day and
he didn't manage to reach for his other camera in time. Well, yeah,
there's the whole thing right there. So the last thing
for the lasting for five seconds, you're staring at a
monster in the face, watching it, make sure that it
steps around you. You're scared for your life, not grabbing
for your camera. Gary is driven on that road, hasn't driven,
has only driven on a different road, so he hasn't
been on that road since he saw it.
Speaker 7: He says, I figured.
Speaker 6: It was a one in a million things. Lightning doesn't
strike twice. On the other hand, I would like to
see it with the camera just to prove it.
Speaker 7: So, wow, there you go.
Speaker 3: Now that's the other complaint A lot of people have, like, Oh,
there's cameras everywhere. Why aren't people getting pictures if they're
out there, why aren't there better pictures and more of them.
It's like, you know, you have to think about the
scale of this creature, of this being just for Bigfoot
for instance, I mean you think of eight feet, you know,
an eight feet and these things are reported ten feet
and over. But eight foot is the basically you know,
in a standard home, it's the distance from your floor
to your ceiling. Now you can imagine that being full
filled up, that space being filled up with the strongest
ape looking thing that's not happy to see you, and
it's you know, it's huge, and you don't know at
that moment if you're dying or not, right, I mean,
that's like a that's like one of those moments that
you know, it's it's the pivotal moment of whether or
not you get to live longer. And and people have all
these ideas about well just grab your camera and you know,
get a picture. At that point, you're not thinking about
I want a picture so I can show my friends.
You're thinking, am I going to live past past this moment? Right?
You know? And what do I do? I mean, You've
got to be in such a state of panic and shock.
How do you how do you process that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt, you know, And that's that's something that
you know, people don't you know, consider though, but consider this.
You know, every every creature on the face of the
earth has some kind of defense mechanism or you know,
way to discourage you know attacks.
Speaker 7: You know squirrels.
Speaker 6: Do you know how squirrels and mongooses confront snakes and
things like that. What they do is they stick their
tail up in the air, right, and they wave it
as fast as they can, because it makes the body
signature look bigger than it actually is to a snake.
Speaker 7: And that's how and that's how long.
Speaker 3: Youse do it too.
Speaker 6: They'll get that tail up there and they'll shake it
and it'll create in the vision of the serpent or
the snake, it'll make it think it's bigger than.
Speaker 7: It actually is.
Speaker 6: So my point is is with bigfoot, maybe they have
a pheromone that they can excrete that causes either fight
or flight.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's the infrasound, of course.
Speaker 7: Infra sound.
Speaker 6: I was about to say that where you become stunned
or you know, it may go the other way. But
I mean, so when you're saying that, you know they
should have grabbed their camera. You know, you don't know
what's being deployed against them naturally from these things, you know.
I mean, me, I'd be just scraping my underwear if
I get through it.
Speaker 7: You know, I may not have underwear when I get
through it, you know.
Speaker 6: But you know, because you know, so you can't really
blame people for that, because unless you've experienced it, you
don't know what kind of a state of mind and
you're in, you don't know what they're you know.
Speaker 3: You're going it's a moment when when for most of
the people that encountered, it's a moment when something that
could not ever exist just stepped into being and it's pissed.
Not here, you know, it's like it's pissed and it's huge,
and you know and that that there's nothing you can
do except sit there and wonder if you're going to
die screaming, or if you're going to die crying, or
what are you going to do. That's about the only
choice you have. And it's and it's not a time
of rational thought. It's not like we're going to get
a picture and show everybody. It's like, you know, if
it's far away, then you can try, you know, but
if it's right up and close and personal. And and
the other problem is is that they're never usually never alone.
You might see one, but there's three other ones that
are around you, and they're you know, they're ready to
spring into action if they need to. So yeah, it's
just it's a situation that it would be really easy
for a lot of people with no understanding of what
that must be like, to be critical.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, and even when we had Bear on
the show, he talked about taking that film crew out
there and they said the only thing that they could film.
Speaker 7: Was the ground.
Speaker 3: It ran right in front of him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, ran right in front of them. And I wonder
why that is.
Speaker 6: Because they saw something that's not supposed to be there.
They were rational thought went right out the window.
Speaker 3: And this is a film crew. Yeah, that's what their
one job was. That you had one job and they
filmed ground. You know, that's all they filmed. So, I mean,
it's just it's an unrealistic expectation for ninety nine percent
of the people to have any other response than I'm
going to die and how am I going to die? Right?
You know? How much is this going to hurt? You know?
That's about it, So really really easy for people to
be critical of that. Now there's one more out of
British Columbia that I was going to read, and this
one's a short one. It says the home of Harrison
Sasquatches reported to be in Mystery Valley in caves back
of twenty Mile Bay, which stretches as far as the
Shahalis Shlis Lake with Lake Margaret in between. This is
in British Columbia, Canada, in nineteen thirty five, So the
story goes, two hairy giants came leaping down the jagged
rocky hillside of Morris Valley and strode across the duck
feeding grounds with the agility of mountain goats. The giants
walked with an easy gate across the swampy flats at
the Morris Creek, straddled a floating log which they propelled
with their hands and huge feet across the stream to
the opposite side. Mister Gustav t typhe tift ring tifting,
I guess tyft iron g of Agassi's saw the footprints
of a big hair every man sighted earlier, along with
several others, which were followed across the garden and into
the woods beyond, where they lost the tracks. The footprints
were sixteen inches long eight inches across the ball of
the foot and four inches across the heel, five toes
and no claw marks. The distance between the footprints was
at least four feet between toe and heel. That's a
huge stride. And all of the potato pat all across
the potato patch about two inches deep into the wet ground,
and they were the shape of a human foot. Two
prospectors returned to Harrison Hot Springs in June nineteen fifty
seven from a trip into the wilds of Harrison Mountains
and told of sighting a huge creature on Spoozum Glacier
thirty to thirty five miles northeast of Harrison, and it
had quite a human appearance. And so the story go,
So the stories go, so, I mean, that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 6: That's incredible, that's incredible. That's he pays a lot for hissues. Well,
feet across the across the four across the heel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big wide foot. But the key point
in there, I think is just the the the talk
of how they, you know, traverse this rocky cliff like
a like a mountain. Go and if you've ever watched
a mountain, go go up those cliff sides it is.
It's just like, oh my god, how is it not falling?
It's got these little, these little pegs that it's doing
it on. But they just run up and down those
things like nothing. And to know that this big, huge,
hairy thing that has superhuman strength and superhuman agility also
can scale impossible terrain like that with no problem. I mean,
the most normal things you would think is I want
to get high. I want to get high off the ground.
Speaker 7: Plea qualify that.
Speaker 3: I want to feel nothing. I mean, like, you know,
you want to get off the ground. You want to
get to an elevated position because there's something big that
wants to kill you. Well, they can climb it so
much better than you can.
Speaker 7: They'll get there before you do.
Speaker 3: Well, they'll get up there and you know, throw you down,
probably so you just got farther to fall, you know.
I don't know. That's just one of those things. That's
why I say that if indeed they wanted to hurt us,
we would be absolutely helpless to stop it. We couldn't.
You know, you can't really reason with it. You can't
really you know, outmaneuver it. You can't outrun it, you
can't out climb it. You can't outswim it. I mean,
these things are going to get you if they want to.
But now the amazing thing is that they obviously don't
want to, because otherwise we wouldn't have this many stories
of people seeing them and be like, oh, there's people,
let's go get rid of the witnesses and it would
just be a walk in the park for them.
Speaker 6: But no, I was just I just found this. It's
supposedly a thirteen year old mythical beast filmed in Canadian wilderness.
Speaker 7: Huh and it says, umm, thirteen year old.
Speaker 6: Why does this look like it's maybe it was?
Speaker 3: First? What's this? The beast is thirteen years older?
Speaker 6: Well, the thirteen year old mythical beast? I think it's
the story's thirteen year old.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: But it says was an annoying unknown humanoid creature spotted
stalking a moose somewhere in Quebec on a ship or
is this a shaky video? Another poor quality internex internex.
Speaker 3: Hoax, internet holks, That's what I meant.
Speaker 6: Internext, what appears as a six foot faceless hitheronto unrecorded
human like creature was filmed stalking a moose, and sensationalist
publications are claiming the video has sparked worldwide panic as
the identity of the beast back fulls millions of viewers
after going viral on the Internet. Filmed by a local resident,
the beast appears to be lurking behind a feeding moose
in an isolated Canadian wilderness, and this classically classically badly
focused video shows a faint, pale, human sized figure moving
behind the moose. Many viewers have speculated that it appears
to walk on its hind legs like a human and
could it be the legendary rake monster oh, comparable to
Bigfoot and Yeti. According to the Express Sightings of the
Canadian Rake, the Legendary Rake was described as a brutal,
savage humanoid creature with canine characteristics, although it has never
savaged any human, never mind brutally. Many claiming it attacks
without provocation, is using its long blade like fingers to
pull its victims apart.
Speaker 1: Um.
Speaker 7: Oh, and there you go. That's that's the end of that.
Speaker 3: It goes. Oh wait, no, no, there there's more.
Speaker 4: Umm.
Speaker 6: The video has been viewed more than one hundred and
two thousand times, which is probably that's not viral, but
I'm sure it's got more than that now and social
media viewers have provided a host of possible explanations for
the sighting. Responding to the filmmaker's question, looking at the video,
I saw a strange shape at the back left. Can
someone tell me what it is? In response, one commenter wrote.
Speaker 7: That looks like that.
Speaker 6: Looks like the rake type character stalking the moose. But skeptics, however,
claimed that it was footage. The footage was misleading and
suggested that the creature was no more than a speck
on the car window. But this does not argue why
the creature apparently moves in the footage, it said, so
it's a speck of reality. In my twenties, I studied
for photography and video communications at the college. Since I
have conducted numerous photography exhibits, exhibitions and have filled hundreds
of hours of documentary video footage. On many occasions, I
have discovered my own rake monsters in that such appearances
are caused by well understood occurrences which photographers know about.
A tiny speck of dust on the lens can sometimes
peer to take on monster proportions and what it is.
Speaker 7: More and what it is.
Speaker 6: A tiny speck of dust can lens can appear in
monster proportions because they are sometimes so close to lens.
Moving the camera as much as a few millimeters causes
suspec to appear to move several feet on video footage.
A good way to recreate the effect is to hold
your finger up against your nose in the living room.
In your living room, now close one eye and look
at the finger. So he's saying, you know, spot your fingertips.
It's the way you find out which dominant eye you have.
Now close one eye and look at the finger. When
the finger, when your finger moves a few millimeters, knows
how it covers and reveals what appears to be appears
to be several feet against the wall. The effect is
also apparent when they Okay, so basically, this guy's saying
it could be a spec but you know, and we've
talked about it before. You know, a swinging cobweb near
the lens of the camera causes emotion movement. You know
that may look like it's only a millimeter or two,
but it's actually when it's seen, it looks like it's
moving a good way. It's a few feet or so
so that was that was him possibly trying to debunk this,
but the description of the creature was just amazing. Let
me get back up to there. Yeah, classically bad Okay,
pale human sized figure moving behind the moose. Now a
moose moose. Moose can be huge depending on how old
they are. You know, I've seen nine foot at the top,
you know, the top of the head moose. They're huge,
but you know they're they're big enough that you have
a scale you could honestly say, you know, well that's
human size compared to whatever it may be.
Speaker 7: You know, it would be reasonable to make that assumption.
Speaker 6: Sure it appears to walk on hind legs like a human.
So interesting, And that was up in Quebec.
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