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Speaker 3: All right, everybody, Welcome to the Paranormal Portal podcast. I

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hope you guys are having a wonderful night, and thank

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you so much for tuning in and supporting all that

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Of course, I'm your host, Brent Thomas. This is the

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Paranormal Portal podcast, and these are just encounters. They're not

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first hand accounts or written for sensationalism, and you know,

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it just tells what happened. So it says Charles Jackson

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and his son Kevin got the shock of their lives

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on an afternoon of July twelfth, nineteen sixty nine. They

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were at their home in Cherokee Road in Oroville, well

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southeast of Bluff Creek, which is also the sighting of

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the Patterson film Patterson Gimblet film Bluff Creek, but not

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very far from the Pumas Plumas National Forest. Father and

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son were working peacefully in their backyard burning rabbit and trails,

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which I guess is a good bonding thing. I don't

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know when a huge ape like creature loped out of

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the woods and stopped to stare at them. The beast

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was seen seven to eight feet tall and had large breasts,

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and was covered in three inch long gray hair except

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on its hands and face. The Jacksons, only fifteen feet

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away at the time, said that after it spotted them,

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it walked up to the outhouse, looked around, and suddenly

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ran back in the woods. Another Cherokee Road resident had

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run in with an ape man around the same time

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as the Jackson incident four weeks. For weeks, rather not

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four weeks, but for weeks, Homer Stickley's farm had been

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haunted by something that screamed in the woods at night

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and stole apples from his trees. One moonlit night, Stickley

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saw the culprit, a tall, heter suit two legged creature

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that walked through a nearby meadow, pausing to stand by

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a stump. By September, at least a dozen people had

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reported giant ape like things running around Oroville, but the

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Cherokee Road sightings remained the most documented incredible of the lot.

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Six years later, people were still seeing the beasts and

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finding their huge footprints in the area, but the creature

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remained at large. By then, Oroville had established this itself

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as another home of North America's most famous land monster,

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the Bigfoot, And so there you have it. I mean,

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and the the funny thing about the accounts like that is,

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and this happens a lot in Bigfoot sightings, is we

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think of them as these, you know, really intelligent things

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that you know that and maybe they are, and I'm

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not saying that they're not, but we think of them

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as as you know, always aware of their surroundings and stuff.

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of moment, like just loped out of the woods and

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was like, oh so I think they're may be more

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what's curious to me, is that there these are apparently

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pretty skittish beings that they avoid us, and they very

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actively avoid people. But sometimes it's just like I don't know,

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of just talking, looking over their shoulder and checking things out. Yeah, mosying.

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know that they're not worried, and then if they're so

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care free, why don't we see them more often? You know?

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in considering these things. But that's the first one, and

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nineteen forty eight, and this is kind of cool. Reason

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skeptics claim that, you know, the whole Bigfoot thing kind

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of started in what was it, sixty seven, sixty gimlin, Yeah,

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the Patterson Gimblin in sixty seven, and a lot of

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people believe that just prior to that, of course, people

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first penning of the name Bigfoot, and it was in

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a newspaper and it was based on the fact that

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they found these big tracks around this logging camp. And

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it's also alleged that one of the guys that found

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them was a big prankster. So people weren't really sure

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what to think of it, but they did report it

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on it in the newspaper and they casted it I

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think as well. But most most skeptics say that that's

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kind of where it started, and then just other people

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hundreds and you find, you know, things that predate by

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a long period. There's you know, been but they used

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wild man sighting in Marsouri and stuff like that. So

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a bastardization of the actual native term, but it was

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somebody's mistake, so it became sasquatch. But anyway, let's see

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forty eight. Excuse me a little bit frogy. Nineteen seventies

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veteran researcher Mike did Dardanos. Dardanos, a fish originally from

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Los Banos, California, told me about a story he was

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given in nineteen sixty eight that occurred in Calaveras County, California,

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around nineteen forty eight. The story involved teenagers who were

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fooling around shooting off their Daisy rifles and red rioder

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be beguns near Lake Comanche in Wallace, California. The six

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of them were led by a former commercial fisherman named Dixon,

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who took them out to teach them proper rifle etiquette.

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Dixon caught wind of a really foul smell, and at

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first he thought his thermos had gone rank on him,

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but smelling again more closely, the coffee was fine. By then.

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it might be a dead animal and curious as growing

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boys are. After lunch, they took off to investigate the smell.

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with the right half of the pelvis gone, toning down

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Dardano's graphic remarks a little. He said, maggots had decimated

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most of the remaining corpse, and a cloud of black

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flies were thick over the large foot, which had partially

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rotten in a puffy white in the water. The left

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leg and left buttocks were completely covered in black hair

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about one to four inches long, but nothing else was

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around the area to be found of the rest of

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the body. They figured that They figured what was left

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of the male genitalia was probably pulled off and eaten

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by coyotes, and none of them have heard of the

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abominable snowman, and they thought it was probably a local

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vagrant who lived in the hills. Dardanos, after hearing the

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tail of a hair covered torso, went ahead and made

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a note of possibly dead sasquatch found near Lake Comanche

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village in central California around nineteen forty eight, So apparently

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they might have found a corpse. But it doesn't sound

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like there was a whole lot of it left. But

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the foot in one half of the pelvis and leg

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it's interesting, you know, but when when bigfoot die, when

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big when when sasquatches die?

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Speaker 7: You know, aren't they usually.

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out too. I've got to ask somebody about that. What's

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the proper terminology family whatever that may be? Anyhow, But

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Speaker 7: But you would think that, well you would think that.

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Speaker 6: Somebody would know one of one of his other ex

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clan would know, you know, but maybe they just don't care.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you're an outcast, you know.

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there's there's a lot of theories going around about what

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what happens to these these things when they die. And

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now there's allegedly report by a park ranger, and it's

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apocryphal at best. I haven't ever heard it substantiated, but

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he alleges that he watched a group of bigfoot carrying

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another one and burying it, and observed from a distance

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through binoculars the whole bearing you know, quote unquote ceremony. Now,

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other people are trying to say and maybe they're right.

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a bigfoot dies, the rest of the family group will

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consume it, and so there isn't anything left, right, including

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grinding the bones down to powder and you know and

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all of that. So that is civilized.

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Speaker 6: That's that's shows real civilization to them, though, I mean.

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Speaker 7: To be able to culture anyway.

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Speaker 6: It's because it shows that they're they're aware enough to

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you know, and it really speaks to their own kind

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of spirituality, you know, you know, that kind of thing,

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or or at least the way they believe.

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Speaker 7: Let me say.

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Speaker 6: That that's interesting, ladies.

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like bad people and maybe maybe use the death penalty

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in all seriousness, and and there's that's possible. And uh,

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you know, I've I've heard that claim before, and I

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know Cat made that claim as well. Well, there are

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no but that that there are there are some what

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am I what am I trying to say? Some some

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offenses that they can do. There's very few, but if

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they do, it's like a death penalty, and one of

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which is killing their own kind, and the and the others.

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you know, which which when you're thinking of of anything,

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surviving alone is incredibly tough for any any creature living

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in the wilds, you know, I mean, it's not easy

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for human beings either, I mean or the wild. But

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when you when you're thinking of you know, you need

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successful hunts. You can't get injured because if you do,

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you can't hunt. You may be able to gather, but.

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Speaker 6: You don't have anybody to help care for you.

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Speaker 3: Right, And you don't have anybody to watch your back

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when you're sleeping and stuff like that. And you know,

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with the family groups alleged with the Bigfoot anyway, And

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I don't know, I don't know enough about the dog

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man to have any opinion of this, But there's the

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idea that there are watchers. So there's you know, they

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generally sleep during the day and are up nocturnally, but

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during that daytime, daytime period, there are designated watchers who

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take positions around the family group and watch over them

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during their time of rest. And I don't know what

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they do when it comes nighttime or if they maybe

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stay up for more than twenty four hours at a time,

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just taking their shift or whatever, but.

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Speaker 7: So long freaking shift.

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Speaker 3: Right, well, I mean, so do they then sleep at

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the night while the other ones go out and do

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their thing. I don't know. I would think that they probably,

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you know, just some of them don't sleep one night

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and while the others do, and then the next night

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they'll get to sleep, but some other ones will have

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to stay awake. You know. Maybe it's like that. I

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don't know, sift right, ye who drew the short strap? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You know, And that's an interesting quest question now, I mean,

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because you know how you know? And and mkat said

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that he wonders about how the family is structured and

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things like that, you know as well, you know, and

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so you know, how how are there are you know,

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you know are somebody has told us I think it

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was Cindy has mentioned rogues before, the ones that have

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been ostracized or kicked out or banished or you know, yeah,

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you can roll with us, but you got to take.

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Speaker 7: Care of yourself, you know.

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Speaker 6: Whatever that is that that permanent bachelor kind of thing.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but.

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Speaker 6: Anyhow, and you know, so you know, and what are

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those offenses that get you banished or why do you

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become rogue? Or do you do they leave because they

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don't agree with something that happened with a decision, you know,

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I mean, is it a political situation, you know, I

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mean they've got to have their own politics in the

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sense because yeah, you know, so, you know, it's it's

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a lot of a lot of questions about him.

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Speaker 3: And I've heard many, many different variations of that same thing,

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like what does the groups look like? And generally what

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I've heard is that it's usually an alpha male and

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an alpha female and then they're they're offspring, and there

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might be other you know, other individuals that are you know,

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adult as well with that group. But there's like there's

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the chief and the and the the what would the

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female chief be called?

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Speaker 6: I'm mama, but no, you'd alf I think a female

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I think she's.

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Speaker 3: Called mam because she didn't call her anything else. But

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you know, and then I've heard other things where they're

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talking about groups of you know, a dozen together that

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you know, may not have been a family group, but

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they're they're gathered together. So I don't know, and.

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Speaker 7: I think I think that would be more of a

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clan at that point, though.

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Speaker 3: It would seem yeah, it would definitely seem.

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Speaker 7: So tribe yet right.

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Speaker 3: So very strange, And I I don't know enough about

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the dog Man slash Wolf people and how they are

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organized in all of this. Now, I've heard with that,

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with that whole situation, I've heard you know, variations there

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that they they are like in territorial regions alongside of sasquatch,

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but they don't really mix. And then I've heard the

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other thing where they are you know, tolerant of each

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other and kind of live around each other. And then

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I don't know, I know that it seems in terms

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of dog men, it seems that they're that their habitat

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is really much more closely aligned with waterways, right, and

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they definitely stay near water at all times, more so

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than the bigfoot slash sasquatch. And I don't know what

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it is about their physiology that makes them stay near water,

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but they seem to travel always around waterways for the

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dogmen and you know slash wolf people, you know, And

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I don't know if that's true or not, but I

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know Linda got Free has mentioned that, Shelle Dionn has

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mentioned that, so, you know, from both of them, I

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would definitely regard it as as probably pretty good, pretty

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pretty possible at that point. But yeah, Linda, in all

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of her research, of course, she's very methodical and very

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very organized with this, and she made that that observation

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that waterways are are always right near wherever dog man

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sightings are. So then you get into other fringe ones

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like these, you know, other things like the rake, for instance,

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and honestly, we just don't know anything about them. I mean,

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they're these and ladies and gentlemen. If you haven't heard

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of a term like of the rake, they are essentially

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these I don't know, spidery thin beings that look like

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bald people and they aren't clothed. They're just kind of

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running around. And now if you look on the internet,

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there's lots of famous pictures going around of what the

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rake is, but it looks like this creepy little thing.

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It kind of looks like a smiegel, you know, the

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the what is.

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Speaker 7: It, goll Schegel here.

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Speaker 3: Gollem Schmegel, different names of the same thing, but it

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kind of looks like that, except man sized and uh

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but bald and hairless, clothesless, but they kind of crawl

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around the same way. And what I've heard of their descriptions,

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but I got a couple of stories of the rake

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pulled up and I don't know, Honest to god, I

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have no idea, whether they're at all credible or just

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creative writing, because when it comes to the Rake, it's

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so hard to find anything worth mentioning with them or

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or you know, any kind of encounter stories, because the

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encounters are so incredibly rare now, as what Shelle was

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saying about them is that they are these incredibly aggressive,

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horrible things. And she said that she had much rather

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meet a dog man, way more so than she'd want

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to meet another rake, because she had an encounter with one.

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And you know, if they are absolutely that that's that horrible,

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and it seems they are. But if they are, I

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you know, I hope I never do seem But you

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think about it, so why are there so few sightings?

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Well maybe the rake is just that much more lethal

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and doesn't care, so that no victims left alive, right,

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and there's no witnesses because whatever saw it was probably

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on the menu, you know, And that's a creepy feeling.

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But you think about the missing four one one stories, right,

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and you know the other missing people in and around

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cities and in rural areas, you know, they just kind

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of disappear, and what if it was some of these

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were the Rake and that's why there's so few stories,

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is that there's nobody left alive to talk about it,

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you know, or very few. Yeah, So I don't know

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if that's if that could be it or not, but

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I certainly am curious about it, and it's it's concerning.

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But I don't even I can't even tell you, honest

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to God, where they're sighted most I really know that

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little about them. But a lot of people believe that

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the rake is also one of the origins for the

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legend of the slender Man. Let's get back into some

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of these squatch reports, because I've got tons of them. Now,

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this is just now, this should be a good one actually,

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because it's a bow hunter story, and a lot of

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times bow hunters have the most incredible encounters with these

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with the bigfoots and sasquatch, because you know, they're kind

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of out there and in being stealthy. Yeah, there's no

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big report when they take something down, So it's a

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it's a very very stealthy kind of hunting. And you know,

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they have to be stealthy and they have to be

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you know, quiet, otherwise they'll scare the prey away. So

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bow hunters are probably the most skilled hunters out there

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and my opinion. But I wrote this almost twenty five

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years ago. I have no idea how many times it

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has been published since then. And I also have nothing

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more to add. I make no observations regarding the following.

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It was. It was as I've written in August twenty third,

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nineteen sixty and I've been out in my own for

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six months, living by competing at rodeos. I was only sixteen,

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and it just finished a rodeo in Washington, and had

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a couple hundred in my pocket, and three fellow hands

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asked me to go out with them on a canoe

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trip in BC, British Columbia, so to get their winter meat.

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And they were all BC natives, and he names them.

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I don't know if I need to do that, but

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he said. He said they had lots of equipment and

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neew the area and to the north and east of

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Risky Creek Riske Creek, and they would launch the freighter

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canoes twenty foot long with seven point five or seven

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and a half avenue kickers at a place near Horseley,

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east of Williams Lake, and go north and east from

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up there a string of lakes and rivers and We

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took two canoes with thirty five gallons of spare gas,

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spare prop, and one hundred sheerpins. You got to have

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sheerpins when you're going to have an outboard mortar. Oh man,

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I can't tell you how many times I popped the

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sheerpin on an outboard in the fishing boat back home.

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But we had a tent in each canoe, and a

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rifle and shotgun, two fishing rods, one tackle box, bedrolls

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and grub box. And we traveled light because we knew

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there would be portages, and since they were all natives,

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could shoot anything as we went. The word portage refers

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to the practice of carrying a canoe or other boats

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over land to avoid an obstacle on the water routes,

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such as rapids or a waterfall. Excuse me. We had

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twenty pounds of flour, salt, pepper, tea lard, pemmican, and

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tobacco to give to natives we encountered. The word for

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pemmican is a concentrated mixture of fat and protein used

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as a nutritious emergency food stuff that gives all the

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history of pemmican. Wow. But my friends, my friends were

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about twenty to thirty twenty to twenty three years old,

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and I was really the baby. The first two days

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were absolutely uneventful. We made good time and moved steadily

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up a series of lakes and creeks. And the first

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night we camped had an abandoned mine of some sort

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and dined on fresh fish and rice and beans. And

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day two of the stream got an arrow or and

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swifter and we had two portages and we still we

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made nearly fifty miles. Well that's moving in our canoe,

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Jim and I. We had the Winchester Model TENE ten

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thirty at six and my twelve gage Model twelve. Pump

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ducks and geese were everywhere, and we had those for dinner.

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And the next night fixed with some French name I

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can't recall. You picked them, rubbed them with large and

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season them. A green branch is bent into a ue

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and inserted in the cavity, and they are suspended over

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the coals. The best duck I ever ate. Sounds good.

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I'm getting hungry what reading this? On day three, Kidd

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and Earl in the lead canoe, rounded a bend and

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shot a young moose about six hundred pounds and we

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spent four hours dressing and boning and caching the meat

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on an elevated platform. It froze every night. So we

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were at the base of a small lake. As we

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were working, three canoes with natives came down the lake

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at full speed and kid waved them in, and there

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were four adult males and two maybe teenagers, and three

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adult women and one girl of about ten. I assumed

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they were an extended family. And we gave them about

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one hundred pounds of meat and some flour and tea

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and tobacco. That was really nice. They spoke no English,

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at least not in front of me, and I understand

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not one word except twice when one of the women

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said sasquash, and I laughed twice. At the time I

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assumed she was making a joke for me. They left

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after smoking with us and giving us three big whitefish

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and some pemmican. We took maybe twenty pounds of prime meat,

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cashing the rest under the tarp and some bark, and

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the platform was standard cash for that area, about twelve

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feet off the ground. And we went on still heading

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north and east, and we left the small lake and

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went through a shoot into another lake and then east

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into a smaller river. This stream was maybe forty to

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sixty feet wide and medium swift, and about seven about seven,

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we started looking for a campsite and found one on

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00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:49,519
the north bank and a bend of the river. The

472
00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:54,440
right bank was covered with boulders round by glaciation and current,

473
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,279
but left bank was clear with a flat area under

474
00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:01,160
some trees. We were all tired and hit the sack

475
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,519
before full dark. It doesn't get dark there until tomorrow.

476
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,359
It doesn't get dark there until tomorrow. I don't know

477
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,359
what that means. Excuse me. Sometime maybe two or three

478
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,359
in the morning, Jim and I were awakened by a

479
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,359
loud crash in the campsite. Thinking bear, we grabbed our

480
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,920
guns and kicked back the tent flap nothing. Jim had

481
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,880
a flashlight and turned it on, and Earl and Kid

482
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,079
were now out in the tent and armed out of

483
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,599
the tent rather and a boulder about the size and

484
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,599
shape of a bowling ball had just destroyed our dutch

485
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,680
oven and part of our cookbox. We stood around trying

486
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,720
to sort things out when a second boulder hit Kid

487
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,839
in Earl's tent dead center. It came straight down through

488
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,000
the trees, and I was standing there open mouthed when

489
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:51,519
both Kid and Jim grabbed me and Earle and drug

490
00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:55,119
us deeper into the trees. Naturally, there was a lot

491
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,880
of discussion, but I won't relate the tenor of that.

492
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,680
We spent the rest of the short night in a circle,

493
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,519
back to back, safeties off. From time to time we

494
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:08,960
would hear some more rocks hit, and once, just once,

495
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,440
some sort of strange hooting from the other side of

496
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,599
the river. After after good sun up, we slowly crept

497
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:21,400
back to camp and one tent was toast, as were

498
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,680
the cookbox and most of the cooking equipment. I counted

499
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,279
nine rocks, ranging from the size of a bowling ball

500
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:31,480
to a beach ball sized. Good god, that's heavy, the

501
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:36,319
largest weighing maybe one hundred and fifty to two hundred pounds. Fortunately,

502
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,000
the canoes were undamaged, and we quickly pulled up camp

503
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:42,319
and started out. We got to the meat cash that

504
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,599
morning and it was gone, not destroyed, gone totally one

505
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,759
hundred percent gone. No logs, no rope, no meat, no carcass.

506
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,359
And I have no opinion. We ran. We ran wide

507
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,000
open going out and camped that night in the canoe

508
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,519
in the middle of a lake. Jim and Kid are

509
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:07,799
now dead, killed in a float plane crash some years ago. Earle,

510
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,039
I don't know about. I'm certain of only five things

511
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:15,359
regarding that trip. One those rocks were not on the

512
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,160
bank where we pitched tent, and we where we pitched camp,

513
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:24,440
and we pitched camp says both times. And they were

514
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,359
not carried into our camp. They were thrown No human

515
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,079
being did it. I have no desire to ever again

516
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,759
go into that country. And number five, I am not

517
00:30:35,839 --> 00:30:39,799
a believer or a skeptic, but I don't exactly discount

518
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,799
much if it were if which I don't understand. And

519
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:48,400
as for the lack of scientific evidence, it is just

520
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,319
in recent times that we have learned that Caucazoids lived

521
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:54,720
in North America as long as twelve thousand years ago.

522
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:59,319
If our ancestors had not lived in villages with middens,

523
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:04,920
they had roamed in groups of two or two or three,

524
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:08,319
we might still not know about cloth a Clovist woman

525
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:52,640
or many of them. Get something to read.

526
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Actually I found that Yahwie report from It's from

527
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,400
the Northern Star, which is down in Queensland. I believe

528
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:07,079
Australia yowie attacks Queensland driver. A driver who says a

529
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:10,079
hoholking yowi thump the bonnet of his truck has been

530
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:12,359
plagued by nightmares and says spotting.

531
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,039
Speaker 7: The creature was the worst experience of his life.

532
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 6: The fifty three year old is told of a terrifying

533
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:21,400
encounter with Australia's version of Bigfoot while driving through a

534
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,519
bushy part of the Gold Coast hinterland last November. The

535
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,319
truck he wants to be identified only as Gary, describing

536
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:29,359
how he was forced to slam on the brakes when

537
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:32,599
the creature emerged from the bush in broad daylight at

538
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:38,160
withern He eyeballed the three meter tall yawi before thumped

539
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,599
the bonnet of his truck before milting into the dense forest.

540
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,079
Speaker 3: What do you mean thump like dumped on?

541
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, yeah. It was the worst thing that has

542
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,920
ever happened to me, he told the bulletin. I tried

543
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,839
to push it to the back of my head and

544
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,599
I think that was it just can't be real. I

545
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,240
just couldn't get it out of my mind. I was

546
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:07,559
having trouble sleeping at night. Gary said prior to his encounter,

547
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,319
he never believed in such a creature and was fearful

548
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:13,799
of people's reactions to a story, including what his wife

549
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:17,839
would make of it. In the end, she believed him.

550
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,839
He said, it's an unfortunate coincidence that the can't dash

551
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,680
cam on Gary's truck was being serviced that day and

552
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,920
he didn't manage to reach for his other camera in time. Well, yeah,

553
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,000
there's the whole thing right there. So the last thing

554
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,920
for the lasting for five seconds, you're staring at a

555
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,400
monster in the face, watching it, make sure that it

556
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,440
steps around you. You're scared for your life, not grabbing

557
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,960
for your camera. Gary is driven on that road, hasn't driven,

558
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,599
has only driven on a different road, so he hasn't

559
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:52,960
been on that road since he saw it.

560
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,119
Speaker 7: He says, I figured.

561
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:57,079
Speaker 6: It was a one in a million things. Lightning doesn't

562
00:33:57,079 --> 00:33:59,599
strike twice. On the other hand, I would like to

563
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:01,359
see it with the camera just to prove it.

564
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,599
Speaker 7: So, wow, there you go.

565
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: Now that's the other complaint A lot of people have, like, Oh,

566
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,320
there's cameras everywhere. Why aren't people getting pictures if they're

567
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,840
out there, why aren't there better pictures and more of them.

568
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,760
It's like, you know, you have to think about the

569
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,360
scale of this creature, of this being just for Bigfoot

570
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,239
for instance, I mean you think of eight feet, you know,

571
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,119
an eight feet and these things are reported ten feet

572
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,880
and over. But eight foot is the basically you know,

573
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,159
in a standard home, it's the distance from your floor

574
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,800
to your ceiling. Now you can imagine that being full

575
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:46,199
filled up, that space being filled up with the strongest

576
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,719
ape looking thing that's not happy to see you, and

577
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,599
it's you know, it's huge, and you don't know at

578
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:56,320
that moment if you're dying or not, right, I mean,

579
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,119
that's like a that's like one of those moments that

580
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,760
you know, it's it's the pivotal moment of whether or

581
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,480
not you get to live longer. And and people have all

582
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,159
these ideas about well just grab your camera and you know,

583
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,159
get a picture. At that point, you're not thinking about

584
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,199
I want a picture so I can show my friends.

585
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,039
You're thinking, am I going to live past past this moment? Right?

586
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,320
You know? And what do I do? I mean, You've

587
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,320
got to be in such a state of panic and shock.

588
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,800
How do you how do you process that?

589
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt, you know, And that's that's something that

590
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:34,719
you know, people don't you know, consider though, but consider this.

591
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,639
You know, every every creature on the face of the

592
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:42,079
earth has some kind of defense mechanism or you know,

593
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:46,800
way to discourage you know attacks.

594
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 7: You know squirrels.

595
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 6: Do you know how squirrels and mongooses confront snakes and

596
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,920
things like that. What they do is they stick their

597
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,519
tail up in the air, right, and they wave it

598
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,519
as fast as they can, because it makes the body

599
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:03,920
signature look bigger than it actually is to a snake.

600
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 7: And that's how and that's how long.

601
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: Youse do it too.

602
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,199
Speaker 6: They'll get that tail up there and they'll shake it

603
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,400
and it'll create in the vision of the serpent or

604
00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:16,239
the snake, it'll make it think it's bigger than.

605
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 7: It actually is.

606
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 6: So my point is is with bigfoot, maybe they have

607
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:25,119
a pheromone that they can excrete that causes either fight

608
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:25,599
or flight.

609
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,039
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's the infrasound, of course.

610
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 7: Infra sound.

611
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 6: I was about to say that where you become stunned

612
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,679
or you know, it may go the other way. But

613
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,280
I mean, so when you're saying that, you know they

614
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,840
should have grabbed their camera. You know, you don't know

615
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,559
what's being deployed against them naturally from these things, you know.

616
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,440
I mean, me, I'd be just scraping my underwear if

617
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,079
I get through it.

618
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,119
Speaker 7: You know, I may not have underwear when I get

619
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,119
through it, you know.

620
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 6: But you know, because you know, so you can't really

621
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,039
blame people for that, because unless you've experienced it, you

622
00:36:57,039 --> 00:37:00,039
don't know what kind of a state of mind and

623
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:01,960
you're in, you don't know what they're you know.

624
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,119
Speaker 3: You're going it's a moment when when for most of

625
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:09,960
the people that encountered, it's a moment when something that

626
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:15,360
could not ever exist just stepped into being and it's pissed.

627
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,559
Not here, you know, it's like it's pissed and it's huge,

628
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:21,960
and you know and that that there's nothing you can

629
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,679
do except sit there and wonder if you're going to

630
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,760
die screaming, or if you're going to die crying, or

631
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,320
what are you going to do. That's about the only

632
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,360
choice you have. And it's and it's not a time

633
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,880
of rational thought. It's not like we're going to get

634
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,880
a picture and show everybody. It's like, you know, if

635
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,960
it's far away, then you can try, you know, but

636
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:42,039
if it's right up and close and personal. And and

637
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:46,719
the other problem is is that they're never usually never alone.

638
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:49,760
You might see one, but there's three other ones that

639
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,440
are around you, and they're you know, they're ready to

640
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:56,559
spring into action if they need to. So yeah, it's

641
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:59,320
just it's a situation that it would be really easy

642
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,400
for a lot of people with no understanding of what

643
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,639
that must be like, to be critical.

644
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:08,679
Speaker 6: Well, you know, and even when we had Bear on

645
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,039
the show, he talked about taking that film crew out

646
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:14,480
there and they said the only thing that they could film.

647
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 7: Was the ground.

648
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 3: It ran right in front of him.

649
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, ran right in front of them. And I wonder

650
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,000
why that is.

651
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:21,599
Speaker 6: Because they saw something that's not supposed to be there.

652
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,320
They were rational thought went right out the window.

653
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 3: And this is a film crew. Yeah, that's what their

654
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,400
one job was. That you had one job and they

655
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,599
filmed ground. You know, that's all they filmed. So, I mean,

656
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:40,519
it's just it's an unrealistic expectation for ninety nine percent

657
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:43,239
of the people to have any other response than I'm

658
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,519
going to die and how am I going to die? Right?

659
00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:48,400
You know? How much is this going to hurt? You know?

660
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,400
That's about it, So really really easy for people to

661
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,159
be critical of that. Now there's one more out of

662
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:57,840
British Columbia that I was going to read, and this

663
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,920
one's a short one. It says the home of Harrison

664
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,920
Sasquatches reported to be in Mystery Valley in caves back

665
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:10,920
of twenty Mile Bay, which stretches as far as the

666
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:17,400
Shahalis Shlis Lake with Lake Margaret in between. This is

667
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,920
in British Columbia, Canada, in nineteen thirty five, So the

668
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,840
story goes, two hairy giants came leaping down the jagged

669
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,760
rocky hillside of Morris Valley and strode across the duck

670
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,559
feeding grounds with the agility of mountain goats. The giants

671
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:38,599
walked with an easy gate across the swampy flats at

672
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:43,159
the Morris Creek, straddled a floating log which they propelled

673
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,800
with their hands and huge feet across the stream to

674
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:52,760
the opposite side. Mister Gustav t typhe tift ring tifting,

675
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:58,480
I guess tyft iron g of Agassi's saw the footprints

676
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,400
of a big hair every man sighted earlier, along with

677
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,159
several others, which were followed across the garden and into

678
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:09,559
the woods beyond, where they lost the tracks. The footprints

679
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:13,280
were sixteen inches long eight inches across the ball of

680
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,559
the foot and four inches across the heel, five toes

681
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,000
and no claw marks. The distance between the footprints was

682
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:25,079
at least four feet between toe and heel. That's a

683
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:29,159
huge stride. And all of the potato pat all across

684
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:32,360
the potato patch about two inches deep into the wet ground,

685
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,840
and they were the shape of a human foot. Two

686
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,480
prospectors returned to Harrison Hot Springs in June nineteen fifty

687
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,519
seven from a trip into the wilds of Harrison Mountains

688
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,440
and told of sighting a huge creature on Spoozum Glacier

689
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:52,880
thirty to thirty five miles northeast of Harrison, and it

690
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,559
had quite a human appearance. And so the story go,

691
00:40:56,639 --> 00:41:01,239
So the stories go, so, I mean, that's pretty amazing.

692
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,039
Speaker 6: That's incredible, that's incredible. That's he pays a lot for hissues. Well,

693
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,119
feet across the across the four across the heel.

694
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big wide foot. But the key point

695
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:18,679
in there, I think is just the the the talk

696
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,719
of how they, you know, traverse this rocky cliff like

697
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,840
a like a mountain. Go and if you've ever watched

698
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,079
a mountain, go go up those cliff sides it is.

699
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:30,159
It's just like, oh my god, how is it not falling?

700
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:33,159
It's got these little, these little pegs that it's doing

701
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:35,440
it on. But they just run up and down those

702
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,320
things like nothing. And to know that this big, huge,

703
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:44,079
hairy thing that has superhuman strength and superhuman agility also

704
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:47,840
can scale impossible terrain like that with no problem. I mean,

705
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,320
the most normal things you would think is I want

706
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to get high. I want to get high off the ground.

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Speaker 7: Plea qualify that.

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Speaker 3: I want to feel nothing. I mean, like, you know,

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you want to get off the ground. You want to

710
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get to an elevated position because there's something big that

711
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wants to kill you. Well, they can climb it so

712
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much better than you can.

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Speaker 7: They'll get there before you do.

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Speaker 3: Well, they'll get up there and you know, throw you down,

715
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probably so you just got farther to fall, you know.

716
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I don't know. That's just one of those things. That's

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why I say that if indeed they wanted to hurt us,

718
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we would be absolutely helpless to stop it. We couldn't.

719
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You know, you can't really reason with it. You can't

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really you know, outmaneuver it. You can't outrun it, you

721
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can't out climb it. You can't outswim it. I mean,

722
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these things are going to get you if they want to.

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But now the amazing thing is that they obviously don't

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want to, because otherwise we wouldn't have this many stories

725
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,360
of people seeing them and be like, oh, there's people,

726
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,239
let's go get rid of the witnesses and it would

727
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just be a walk in the park for them.

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Speaker 6: But no, I was just I just found this. It's

729
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supposedly a thirteen year old mythical beast filmed in Canadian wilderness.

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Speaker 7: Huh and it says, umm, thirteen year old.

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Speaker 6: Why does this look like it's maybe it was?

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Speaker 3: First? What's this? The beast is thirteen years older?

733
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Speaker 6: Well, the thirteen year old mythical beast? I think it's

734
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the story's thirteen year old.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

736
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Speaker 6: But it says was an annoying unknown humanoid creature spotted

737
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,719
stalking a moose somewhere in Quebec on a ship or

738
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,079
is this a shaky video? Another poor quality internex internex.

739
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Speaker 3: Hoax, internet holks, That's what I meant.

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Speaker 6: Internext, what appears as a six foot faceless hitheronto unrecorded

741
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:53,880
human like creature was filmed stalking a moose, and sensationalist

742
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,960
publications are claiming the video has sparked worldwide panic as

743
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,280
the identity of the beast back fulls millions of viewers

744
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:06,920
after going viral on the Internet. Filmed by a local resident,

745
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the beast appears to be lurking behind a feeding moose

746
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in an isolated Canadian wilderness, and this classically classically badly

747
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:23,440
focused video shows a faint, pale, human sized figure moving

748
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behind the moose. Many viewers have speculated that it appears

749
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to walk on its hind legs like a human and

750
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,920
could it be the legendary rake monster oh, comparable to

751
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Bigfoot and Yeti. According to the Express Sightings of the

752
00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:44,000
Canadian Rake, the Legendary Rake was described as a brutal,

753
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:49,000
savage humanoid creature with canine characteristics, although it has never

754
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:53,519
savaged any human, never mind brutally. Many claiming it attacks

755
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:58,000
without provocation, is using its long blade like fingers to

756
00:44:58,039 --> 00:44:59,159
pull its victims apart.

757
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: Um.

758
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:04,519
Speaker 7: Oh, and there you go. That's that's the end of that.

759
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,639
Speaker 3: It goes. Oh wait, no, no, there there's more.

760
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 4: Umm.

761
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Speaker 6: The video has been viewed more than one hundred and

762
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,679
two thousand times, which is probably that's not viral, but

763
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,119
I'm sure it's got more than that now and social

764
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,599
media viewers have provided a host of possible explanations for

765
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:26,920
the sighting. Responding to the filmmaker's question, looking at the video,

766
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,280
I saw a strange shape at the back left. Can

767
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,719
someone tell me what it is? In response, one commenter wrote.

768
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 7: That looks like that.

769
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 6: Looks like the rake type character stalking the moose. But skeptics, however,

770
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,679
claimed that it was footage. The footage was misleading and

771
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,760
suggested that the creature was no more than a speck

772
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,719
on the car window. But this does not argue why

773
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:56,400
the creature apparently moves in the footage, it said, so

774
00:45:56,679 --> 00:45:59,800
it's a speck of reality. In my twenties, I studied

775
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:06,559
for photography and video communications at the college. Since I

776
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:11,480
have conducted numerous photography exhibits, exhibitions and have filled hundreds

777
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,480
of hours of documentary video footage. On many occasions, I

778
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,519
have discovered my own rake monsters in that such appearances

779
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:25,039
are caused by well understood occurrences which photographers know about.

780
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,800
A tiny speck of dust on the lens can sometimes

781
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:34,159
peer to take on monster proportions and what it is.

782
00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 7: More and what it is.

783
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:43,639
Speaker 6: A tiny speck of dust can lens can appear in

784
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:47,400
monster proportions because they are sometimes so close to lens.

785
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,440
Moving the camera as much as a few millimeters causes

786
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,639
suspec to appear to move several feet on video footage.

787
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,360
A good way to recreate the effect is to hold

788
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,719
your finger up against your nose in the living room.

789
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,920
In your living room, now close one eye and look

790
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:08,199
at the finger. So he's saying, you know, spot your fingertips.

791
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,400
It's the way you find out which dominant eye you have.

792
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:14,440
Now close one eye and look at the finger. When

793
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,920
the finger, when your finger moves a few millimeters, knows

794
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,400
how it covers and reveals what appears to be appears

795
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,079
to be several feet against the wall. The effect is

796
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:28,519
also apparent when they Okay, so basically, this guy's saying

797
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:32,920
it could be a spec but you know, and we've

798
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,440
talked about it before. You know, a swinging cobweb near

799
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,039
the lens of the camera causes emotion movement. You know

800
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:42,880
that may look like it's only a millimeter or two,

801
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,920
but it's actually when it's seen, it looks like it's

802
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,599
moving a good way. It's a few feet or so

803
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:55,599
so that was that was him possibly trying to debunk this,

804
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:02,480
but the description of the creature was just amazing. Let

805
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:09,119
me get back up to there. Yeah, classically bad Okay,

806
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,559
pale human sized figure moving behind the moose. Now a

807
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:17,400
moose moose. Moose can be huge depending on how old

808
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,239
they are. You know, I've seen nine foot at the top,

809
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,079
you know, the top of the head moose. They're huge,

810
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:27,480
but you know they're they're big enough that you have

811
00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:30,480
a scale you could honestly say, you know, well that's

812
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:33,760
human size compared to whatever it may be.

813
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:36,159
Speaker 7: You know, it would be reasonable to make that assumption.

814
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:41,119
Speaker 6: Sure it appears to walk on hind legs like a human.

815
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So interesting, And that was up in Quebec.

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