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Speaker 2: aka Lord Star Fox. Kenny, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Beck you legend you. I finally am here and get
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to you. I really wish I
Speaker 1: could have before. Unfortunately I was potentially a handcuff in
Speaker 1: certain regards, and now I am able to sit here
Speaker 1: and spend some time with you. Brother. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Well, that goes two ways, and gosh, I'm sorry to
Speaker 2: hear about all the stuff you had to go through
Speaker 2: back then. That is not good. But at least you're
Speaker 2: free from all that now.
Speaker 1: That I am, which is why you and I are
Speaker 1: going to dive into some really epic stuff and I
Speaker 1: am very excited for a lot of new things and
Speaker 1: new projects I get to work on.
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to dive deep, that's for sure, and
Speaker 2: of course I'm looking forward to it. But before we
Speaker 2: do get into diving deep into all this, I've got
Speaker 2: to ask you, where did this whole Lord Starfuks thing
Speaker 2: come from.
Speaker 1: Love the question right there. Long story shore is I
Speaker 1: have always been super creative since I was eleventeen and
Speaker 1: I used to be an actor and model. I always
Speaker 1: found interest in being creative, as mentioned, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to come up with a cool handle. It went all
Speaker 1: over the place. First I started off with Starfucks Starfox Radio,
Speaker 1: and you know how it goes. I kind of got
Speaker 1: my swag taken away from me by others that copied
Speaker 1: my name, So I really was like, okay, what can
Speaker 1: I do now to distinguish myself? And when it comes
Speaker 1: to music, I am all over the place, everything from
Speaker 1: dark stynthwave to new age metalcore to something like Lord,
Speaker 1: the singer from New Zealand. I was like, okay, let's
Speaker 1: put a nice e on the end of Lord here.
Speaker 1: And being a fan of Foxes, which are my favorite
Speaker 1: animals in general, I used to play star Fox when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. Well, it seemed to make sense
Speaker 1: that hey, that's going to be a hard one for
Speaker 1: somebody to steal away from me, and boom, there we go.
Speaker 1: That's how I came across Lord Starfox.
Speaker 2: That's a rich way to arrive at that nickname. It
Speaker 2: really is. But now that you broke it down for me,
Speaker 2: it all makes sense. It does no.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. It's one of those things that creativity
Speaker 1: just oozes out of everything I do, which is why
Speaker 1: I got into acting back in the day, and I
Speaker 1: was doing everything from helping writing scripts and being in
Speaker 1: front of the camera, and then I got put behind
Speaker 1: the camera because we were a small production company. And
Speaker 1: then eventually in the future we got eight, nine, ten
Speaker 1: different cameras and new camera people. But in the beginning,
Speaker 1: if I wasn't in front of the camera, well they
Speaker 1: had me behind the camera too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been busy. You've got a history. TA that's impressive, Kenny.
Speaker 2: For the people listening, I guess I'm going to put
Speaker 2: that out there for them. You've never had a dog
Speaker 2: mean encounter, but you're a dogman investigator who also has
Speaker 2: a dog mean themed podcast. Please give us your bio
Speaker 2: on how you got your start in all this. Couple
Speaker 2: it in there somewhere. Also, please promote the heck out
Speaker 2: of your Dogmion podcast. Tell us how to listen to it,
Speaker 2: go the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1: Again, very kind words from you, and I appreciate the
Speaker 1: platform and the opportunity, and yes, I do have a
Speaker 1: bunch of different podcasts. As we get down the road
Speaker 1: here a little bit, we'll talk about some of the others.
Speaker 1: Yet what really got me kicking was Midnight Lacanthropy and
Speaker 1: I always found a fascinating growing up these crypted encounters
Speaker 1: that were occurring. And as you had stated, no, I've
Speaker 1: never had any sort of paranormal or cryptid based encounters whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I am just an investigative photo journalist that tries to
Speaker 1: give people an opportunity to sit down and speak and
Speaker 1: then try to cure them in the proper direction of
Speaker 1: individuals that could potentially help them out a lot more
Speaker 1: than myself. I do have a science team I work
Speaker 1: with called the Midnight Society Science Team, and from there
Speaker 1: we have biologists, we have environmentalists, we have master trackers,
Speaker 1: we have people that work with the psychology aspect of things,
Speaker 1: and then from there I'm able to push my guests
Speaker 1: and friends in a really good direction with individuals that
Speaker 1: are professional and what they need to speak about. That
Speaker 1: was my main goal from the get go, is to
Speaker 1: try to bring in as much science based information as
Speaker 1: I possibly could. I am not a scientist, I'm a nerd.
Speaker 1: I love to learn, and science is something I've been
Speaker 1: fascinated with again since I was a kid. So what
Speaker 1: do we do? We just put it all together here
Speaker 1: now and try to bring in those brilliant minds and
Speaker 1: make sure that they can help try and clarify things.
Speaker 1: Like as I mentioned to you, I understand what tracks
Speaker 1: look like, and I understand how in mud and snow
Speaker 1: and with moisture, tracks can change a lot. Yet I'm
Speaker 1: not a master tracker. So just because I can look
Speaker 1: at something and see, hey, this looks to be canine based,
Speaker 1: whether it's a coyote or a wolf or somebody's domestic
Speaker 1: dog or a bear track, well that's what I got
Speaker 1: my tracker that I can then send it to and
Speaker 1: he can be like, no, this is this specific breed
Speaker 1: of a dog. Then from there I just try to
Speaker 1: be as analytic based as possible. Like I told you,
Speaker 1: you know, picture football, you got your coaches making the
Speaker 1: plays right, Well, they call upstairs to somebody that's nerding
Speaker 1: out with the analytics. Hey do we go for it here? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of that nerd analytics guy that just crunches
Speaker 1: the numbers and tries to just figure out what's going
Speaker 1: on here. And yes, my main base podcast is Midnight Lecanthropy,
Speaker 1: where I specialize in missing people, prehistoric and modern day
Speaker 1: predator behaviorisms, as well as yes unknown canine sightings which
Speaker 1: classify as the dog man.
Speaker 2: Anyone listening who's wondering When Kinney says that he is
Speaker 2: really into the analytics, he's not kidding. I mean he
Speaker 2: really dives deep when he does research. We're not going
Speaker 2: to get into it right now, but so that you
Speaker 2: know in just a bit here he put a lot
Speaker 2: of research. He dove deep into looking into the alleged
Speaker 2: LBL murders, and what he found out is pretty jarring.
Speaker 2: I'll just put it that way. But like I said,
Speaker 2: we'll get into that in just a bit. Before we do, though,
Speaker 2: how did you wind up investigating dog men the way
Speaker 2: you do and to what extent do you investigate them?
Speaker 1: I love it? My friend. Well, there are some really
Speaker 1: great individuals that are actually big fans of yours as well,
Speaker 1: and that you've been able to interact with that helped
Speaker 1: me build an awesome platform, which was something I really
Speaker 1: appreciated because you know, I started off very small and
Speaker 1: I still am small, but awesome individuals such as one
Speaker 1: of my science members, Colleen O'Hara, who runs Pocatello Paranormal Research.
Speaker 1: She has been a huge ad kit of supporting what
Speaker 1: I do and really trying to add her brain and
Speaker 1: her knowledge into what it is that I'm trying to
Speaker 1: conquer here, which has massively helped me out. And then
Speaker 1: I had other beautiful people like the Cryptid Huntress aka
Speaker 1: Jessica Jones that really sat down with me and helped
Speaker 1: me understand things that were going on and gave me
Speaker 1: another beautiful platform. And as I mentioned to you before,
Speaker 1: Shane Michael Crisp with the West Coast dog Man Project
Speaker 1: who's a huge fan of yours as well. He again
Speaker 1: gave me a platform and was really a big advocate
Speaker 1: of picking my brain about topics and wondering my thought
Speaker 1: process on things, which was super important to me. Then
Speaker 1: I had others again that love you, like Drew Ski
Speaker 1: from Cryptid Warfare and doctor Dennis Carroll from Hunting the Shadows.
Speaker 1: All these people are super brilliant at what they do
Speaker 1: and they have been doing it a lot longer than
Speaker 1: I could ever imagine to be doing this topic. And
Speaker 1: from there, guess what I got to meet people like
Speaker 1: Mindy who's been on and a great friend of yours
Speaker 1: and also a huge fan too, and it all just
Speaker 1: really fell into place that I was able to take
Speaker 1: my nerding aspect about what is going on and really
Speaker 1: be able to then piece it all together and talk
Speaker 1: to people that have had more experiences than me, that
Speaker 1: are much smarter than myself, and it really just started
Speaker 1: to fall into place that hey, I can use my
Speaker 1: interest in this topic and then also my friends that
Speaker 1: I just mentioned and really just put it all together
Speaker 1: and build something that hasn't really necessarily been built in
Speaker 1: this community with the science and also just crushing those
Speaker 1: analytics because I have people from all different realms that
Speaker 1: have helped me understand and things and where this potential
Speaker 1: creature could fall into line whether it's paranormal based or
Speaker 1: is it physical such as you and I, or is
Speaker 1: it an extraterrestrial or could it be something that is
Speaker 1: completely spiritual that doesn't have to be necessarily paranormal. And
Speaker 1: now I'm just really trying to find what's happening out there.
Speaker 1: And the Paul Myra case up in Maine with a
Speaker 1: Martin family was one of the first cases that I
Speaker 1: actually got to go and kind of poke around the area.
Speaker 1: I never did get to speak to the Martin family
Speaker 1: or was unable to get in contact with any of
Speaker 1: the newer owners of the farmstead yet, being from Boston
Speaker 1: originally and mains right up around the corner, and I
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in Maine. I got a
Speaker 1: chance to go up to Madagascar Road, which is near Rangeley,
Speaker 1: in a huge animal reserve, and there's a ton of
Speaker 1: nature up there. People don't realize Maine is the most
Speaker 1: for rested state in the whole United States right there.
Speaker 1: And I really learned a lot just from interacting with
Speaker 1: some of the locals up there. And after that, it
Speaker 1: just all kind of seems to start cruising. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to find a better place for a
Speaker 2: dog man to scratch out a living than Maine Vermont,
Speaker 2: with all the trees and everything. Yeah, it's perfect for him,
Speaker 2: it really is. Well, like I said a bit ago, Kenny,
Speaker 2: you researched the LBL the alleged LBO murders, and told
Speaker 2: me that you made some pretty startling discoveries. Please expand
Speaker 2: on that for us.
Speaker 1: Now, yes, of course, Well, most people that are going
Speaker 1: to be listening to this topic, and if they know
Speaker 1: who I am, they of course know who you are.
Speaker 1: And what's probably the biggest dog man story or encounters
Speaker 1: in the game. It's got to be the LBL massacre.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody seems to have a take on that.
Speaker 1: You can google it, it comes up everywhere. It's all
Speaker 1: over YouTube as well. So I started again taking interest
Speaker 1: into that, and I have a ton of people I
Speaker 1: work with that are down in that area that have
Speaker 1: actually had firsthand experience with figuring out, hey, what happened here?
Speaker 1: And the two biggest cases are as I mentioned, the
Speaker 1: family that supposedly was attacked and disposed of by this
Speaker 1: dog man, which involved a husband and wife and also
Speaker 1: their children, their daughter and also their son. The daughter
Speaker 1: was younger than the son he was supposed to have
Speaker 1: been in his teenage years. That is what was number one.
Speaker 1: And then you have the bow Hunter that well a
Speaker 1: little bit later on than This is also something else
Speaker 1: that really floats around with the whole LBL. And I
Speaker 1: again have friends that are former law enforcement that are
Speaker 1: still current law enforcement, that are scientific based or they're
Speaker 1: just researchers that have gone down there and really taken
Speaker 1: a second to dive into it, and the first part
Speaker 1: with the massacre, of course, I found it fascinating, just
Speaker 1: like everybody else did. And the woman that originally presented
Speaker 1: it was Jan Thompson, and rest in peace. She is
Speaker 1: no longer with us, which it would be really awesome
Speaker 1: to have had a chance to sit down and speak
Speaker 1: with her. All I can really go off of is
Speaker 1: the interviews that I have seen her speak in and
Speaker 1: also some of my own research that I have done,
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't really seem to add up in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, meaning where it kind of all
Speaker 1: originated was off of a Reddit thread and also four Chan,
Speaker 1: and Jan did have a background and being an author,
Speaker 1: she did have an interest in writing short based horror
Speaker 1: stories as previously mentioned. Being a former actor and having
Speaker 1: experience in the modeling industry, I understand how certain things
Speaker 1: work and scripts and such, how you really hone in
Speaker 1: on certain details. And when I started looking through her
Speaker 1: posts on Reddit and four Chan, the issue is some
Speaker 1: of the details that she dove into and how she
Speaker 1: really honed in on those details reminded me a lot
Speaker 1: about how an author would want to describe something. And
Speaker 1: then I found out wait, she was an author, and hey,
Speaker 1: Reddit's an interesting place, so is four Chan. Yet I
Speaker 1: don't really take too much stock into those platforms. There
Speaker 1: over time has not really been anything groundbreaking that's come
Speaker 1: out of their platforms. It's usually things that are just
Speaker 1: people being creative or looking for answers. And then four
Speaker 1: Chan is almost seemingly a hoax based site. It just
Speaker 1: really didn't seem to make sense to me that why
Speaker 1: they originally were posted on those threads. And then from
Speaker 1: there it gained steam and she was able to then
Speaker 1: sit down and do some interviews with other people. Also,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned to you, I do work with people
Speaker 1: that specialize in certain aspects like body language and the
Speaker 1: way people are presenting themselves in front of the camera, etc.
Speaker 1: There's just, unfortunately, some are red flags with that that
Speaker 1: don't really seem to add up in regards of being
Speaker 1: able to be extensively verified as a real case.
Speaker 2: It's funny we're talking about this because right around ten
Speaker 2: years ago or so, I reached out to Jan to
Speaker 2: try to talk with her, have her come on the
Speaker 2: show so I could interview her, and yeah, unfortunately she
Speaker 2: didn't want to have anything to do with me, so
Speaker 2: I never did get a chance to go to up
Speaker 2: with all these details. So yeah, I mean if she
Speaker 2: did falsify the story, even shame on her. It really
Speaker 2: is a shame if that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Yes, very much so. And even for a second, let's
Speaker 1: say if it was potentially a real thing that did
Speaker 1: occur in the area where it did happen, you would
Speaker 1: not just necessarily have had one group of individuals working
Speaker 1: on the case. Meaning if you look at where I
Speaker 1: used to live up in Maine, in Gorham, it was
Speaker 1: a smaller community, so they necessarily would not have been
Speaker 1: able to have a large enough task force to deal
Speaker 1: with something like that. They would be calling in people
Speaker 1: from Portland, from Westbrook, from Scarborough, all these other communities
Speaker 1: that are nearby that would come in and deal with this.
Speaker 1: So to be able to track down anyone that actually
Speaker 1: really did per se participate in this event would be
Speaker 1: nearly impossible. And it did happen so long ago now
Speaker 1: that there would be a high probability that even if
Speaker 1: someone was there, they're not still going to be around
Speaker 1: with us to be able to verify any of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty convenient when it comes to those murderers.
Speaker 2: It's really hard to make heads or tails out of
Speaker 2: all that. I mean, on one hand, I know, if
Speaker 2: people who they researched it and people that they knew
Speaker 2: who didn't know each other, they corroborated each other's stories,
Speaker 2: they would take this person to the scene of where
Speaker 2: the first murders supposedly happened with the RV, the family
Speaker 2: and the RV. This friend over here would take this
Speaker 2: person to that site, which doesn't look like a campsite anymore,
Speaker 2: it's been demolished. But this friend of this person, this investigator,
Speaker 2: would take that investigator to that site and tell them
Speaker 2: all the history of that site and how that was
Speaker 2: supposedly where the incident happened. And then a totally different
Speaker 2: friend who didn't know that first friend, would take this
Speaker 2: investigator to the exact same place. I mean that right there,
Speaker 2: it kind of corroborates that maybe there is some there there.
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, there are a lot of
Speaker 2: things too that make me really wonder if it actually
Speaker 2: did happen. I don't know, it's just so hard to
Speaker 2: make heads or tails out of that, but it sounds
Speaker 2: like you've put a lot of research into it, so
Speaker 2: that just makes me really wonder. That much more about it.
Speaker 2: I will tell you this, that guy who came forward,
Speaker 2: what was his name, who claimed to be underneath the
Speaker 2: RV when this all went down.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, talking about good old Roger. I would you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: necessarily give him that platform. But yes, he would be
Speaker 1: the individual that came forth to speak about that. And
Speaker 1: again his story doesn't add up as well, Meaning if
Speaker 1: these things are an apex predator, how would he have
Speaker 1: just hidden underneath an RV and not been picked up
Speaker 1: by this dog man creature afterwards? If this family was
Speaker 1: Amish based, they most likely would not have been driving
Speaker 1: this type of glorified RV that had been mentioned. They
Speaker 1: also most likely would not have had Roger around to
Speaker 1: hang out with them either, meaning they seem to be
Speaker 1: a tight knit community, so that part didn't really add up.
Speaker 1: And then if they did drive as far as they
Speaker 1: were perceived to have driven in this RV, it would
Speaker 1: have been way too hot upon those axle spots for
Speaker 1: him to have been able to hold onto that as well.
Speaker 1: And then let's be real, how convenient is it that
Speaker 1: supposedly this local farmer just happened to show up as
Speaker 1: Roger was running around in the darkness and this guy
Speaker 1: just picks him up to save them from this dog
Speaker 1: man creature and then brings them back where all these
Speaker 1: officials come in and talk to him. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one to swallow, you man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of it that just doesn't
Speaker 2: pass the sniff test. Full disclosure, I've never listened to
Speaker 2: Rogers share or his side of the story. All I
Speaker 2: knew about the whole Roger incident was that he went
Speaker 2: onto a podcast where he contacted me via email, probably
Speaker 2: about three years after he went on this particular podcast,
Speaker 2: and he just from what I understand. Again, I didn't
Speaker 2: listen to that podcast episode he was featured on, but
Speaker 2: he lit me up talking about how I'm a liar
Speaker 2: and how I'm a horrible person I guess and this
Speaker 2: and that. Well, he contacted me about three years after
Speaker 2: going on that podcast to let me know that the
Speaker 2: guy who was behind that podcast leaned on him to
Speaker 2: have him say those things about me. Well, I had
Speaker 2: never spoken with him, never spoke a word with him
Speaker 2: ever before that show ever aired. My first exposure to
Speaker 2: him wasn't until he sent me that email about three
Speaker 2: years after that podcast episode aired. Where he was talking
Speaker 2: about he was assassinating my character. So he said he
Speaker 2: felt bad about doing that, But that right there told
Speaker 2: me that, Okay, well, he is a liar. He's definitely
Speaker 2: capable of lying. He did it once. Who's to say
Speaker 2: he's not going to do it again. And like you've
Speaker 2: laid out on the table for us, I mean, there's
Speaker 2: so many things about his story that just do not
Speaker 2: add up. So I just can't see how that could
Speaker 2: have been real, any of the things he claimed. I
Speaker 2: just can't see how that could have been real. Info
Speaker 2: about what went down.
Speaker 1: Reached my friend, and you're just hitting it right on
Speaker 1: the good old head of the net here. Unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 1: as you have a large platform, and as you and
Speaker 1: I had talked about before, people are just always going
Speaker 1: to try and discredit individuals or tear people down. In
Speaker 1: a perfect world, everyone should be happy for people's success. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't always work like that. And the same thing
Speaker 1: with what had happened with me. I would have loved
Speaker 1: to have been here with you a long time ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was also steered in the wrong direction. And when
Speaker 1: people do that, it just is a way to try
Speaker 1: and bring clout back their way, but also to try
Speaker 1: and tear somebody down. And as you stated, when you
Speaker 1: catch somebody in something that doesn't make a lot of sense,
Speaker 1: well that's when we as individuals need to really do
Speaker 1: our own due diligence and make sure that we are
Speaker 1: not being fooled, because, you know how it is in
Speaker 1: the crypted field a lot of definitely interesting, intriguing aspects,
Speaker 1: Yet hoaxing is very rampant. I don't know how many
Speaker 1: times people have tried to submit things to me that
Speaker 1: weren't their own material, or they thought I was going
Speaker 1: to be stupid enough to just buy into it. Yet
Speaker 1: then when I do reverse Google research on certain images,
Speaker 1: Oh wait a second, this image came from here, Or
Speaker 1: I have AI programs that I work with that I
Speaker 1: can run an image through and guess what they're like. Nope,
Speaker 1: this is an AI based image. Or if you watch
Speaker 1: some of the AI based monster aquatic animals out there
Speaker 1: that are in fish tanks, it looks pretty real except
Speaker 1: for the fact, well wait a second, how come the
Speaker 1: rocks on the bottom of the fish tank don't move
Speaker 1: when this creature is splashing all around? Well, guess what
Speaker 1: it's because it's AI based and then as you watch
Speaker 1: the video and you really pay attention to details. I
Speaker 1: am a perfectionist with my editing and my art, so yes,
Speaker 1: I understand how certain things work. I will use AI
Speaker 1: sometimes to help save me on time myself. Yet, if
Speaker 1: I create an image in there, and let's say the
Speaker 1: moon isn't coming down properly on the fur, this wolf
Speaker 1: creature created will go in and I will morph the
Speaker 1: moonlight to hit the proper shading aspect that is going on. Yet,
Speaker 1: when you look at a lot of these AI videos,
Speaker 1: things don't add up. All of a sudden, the fin
Speaker 1: is in a different spot which you don't really see
Speaker 1: unless you pay a lot of attention to Or recently,
Speaker 1: this video of a moose battling another moose that hits
Speaker 1: the side of this police car. Okay, well, yes, the
Speaker 1: skid marks are verifiable in this video, but how come
Speaker 1: there's no scratches on the side of the police car after.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a animal biologist, but I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure a large adult male moose that is battling with
Speaker 1: another male moose that hit the side of a police
Speaker 1: car would leave some enter in that car. Correct.
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. I love AI and I'm excited about the
Speaker 2: potential it holds, but as it is right now, it
Speaker 2: just really doesn't have any common sense and it definitely
Speaker 2: shows when you look for things like that. If you
Speaker 2: look closely enough, you'll notice things like what you just
Speaker 2: laid out. So yeah, it's just one of those things.
Speaker 2: But as time goes on, I'm sure it's going to
Speaker 2: get a lot better and you won't have that. But
Speaker 2: for right now, yeah, it does leave a lot to
Speaker 2: be desired. All right, Kenny. Having said all that, I
Speaker 2: know you've got some encounters to share with us now,
Speaker 2: so whenever you're ready, please.
Speaker 1: Do that, yes, of course. And just to touch base
Speaker 1: on the last one, like with the bowhunter you had
Speaker 1: spoke about down in the LBL before, we do dive
Speaker 1: into two main encounters that I actually got a chance
Speaker 1: to spend time with speaking with these individuals. The thing
Speaker 1: about the bowhunter as well, there's a very high probability, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: that he was involved in a poaching accident. I do
Speaker 1: know from friends of mine that are down in Kentucky
Speaker 1: and Tennessee that spend a lot of time in the LBL.
Speaker 1: It is an area where people do poach a lot.
Speaker 1: And what happens on federal land. If a poaching accident
Speaker 1: happens and it's verifiable, that's big time money that needs
Speaker 1: to come out correct to pay the family member that
Speaker 1: unfortunately had this accident occur. So a lot of those
Speaker 1: individuals I respect down in this area have really great
Speaker 1: evidence to support that the local authorities let the whole
Speaker 1: dog man thing run wild, because it actually took away
Speaker 1: from the aspect of how this bow hunter was unfortunately
Speaker 1: taken away from us in a poaching accident. Meaning when
Speaker 1: certain people that I really trust and value their opinion
Speaker 1: went down and were able to actually look at the
Speaker 1: area and were able to have a chance and even
Speaker 1: look at the body and his bow and all kinds
Speaker 1: of other things, well, a lot of things don't add
Speaker 1: up as well, meaning his campsite wasn't ravaged, his bow
Speaker 1: was not broken and destroyed, there was no sort of
Speaker 1: really traumatic type of injuries of something like you were saying,
Speaker 1: a massive dog man per se feeding on him. Yes,
Speaker 1: there are insects, and there are local animals that did
Speaker 1: come in and had, you know, consumed a little bit
Speaker 1: of this hunter's body. Yet here's where it gets really fishy.
Speaker 1: There were drag marks, meaning someone pulled him from this
Speaker 1: area and placed him up against the tree that he
Speaker 1: was found at all. Right, well, here comes some more
Speaker 1: stuff that doesn't add up. Why were there tire tracks
Speaker 1: leading off away from this bowhunter back onto the main
Speaker 1: road in the area of the LBL where somebody could
Speaker 1: have just hopped into their truck after and drove away.
Speaker 1: That really doesn't seem to add up.
Speaker 2: Again, you make some really good points, you really do.
Speaker 2: There's so many lies when it comes to this little
Speaker 2: dog Man field. I mean, it just makes it so
Speaker 2: hard to get to the bottom of things. And it's
Speaker 2: no wonder it's not any further ahead than it already
Speaker 2: is because you have to cut through the chaff. Speaking
Speaker 2: of that, one of the reasons why we're airing this
Speaker 2: show tonight is I got fed up with people trying
Speaker 2: to lie their way onto the show. More than one
Speaker 2: person has recently been trying to lie the way onto
Speaker 2: the show, and I thought, you know what, if I
Speaker 2: bring an investigator on, I'm not going to have worry
Speaker 2: about that. So for tonight's show, that's one of the
Speaker 2: reasons why you're here. It shouldn't be that way. It
Speaker 2: really is a shame.
Speaker 1: Well again, thank you so much for the kudos, my friend.
Speaker 1: And I am, like I said, just an investigative photo
Speaker 1: journalist that is fascinated with history, that is fascinated with facts,
Speaker 1: and I just really try to do a lot of
Speaker 1: quality research before I ever make any sort of opinions
Speaker 1: on topics or anything, because, like you had mentioned, unfortunately
Speaker 1: it is a field that is rampant, that people trying
Speaker 1: to gain clout, trying to gain publicity, trying to make money,
Speaker 1: et cetera. And with that, well, of course we have
Speaker 1: run into hoaxing massively, as you stated, and I'm not
Speaker 1: here to ever try to bury individuals or call people out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as you had mentioned, you call a thing a thing,
Speaker 1: right If something doesn't add up and it's being passed
Speaker 1: along as proper and quality information, yet it's not, and
Speaker 1: there are holes in these stories, it only seems logical
Speaker 1: to take the time to really step back and do
Speaker 1: your own research. And to everyone that values my opinions
Speaker 1: on things, including yourself, I so love that and I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Yet I always do preach on my own shows. Hey,
Speaker 1: do your own research, all right, don't just take my
Speaker 1: science members or myself at face value, go out and
Speaker 1: be able to make inform your own opinions. Meaning I
Speaker 1: love Discovery Channel, I love History Channel, I love Time Magazine.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't like the Smithsonian,
Speaker 1: but I love History. That's super cool too. Yet I
Speaker 1: don't just take BBC at face value. Okay. I would
Speaker 1: then go out and look around and be like, okay,
Speaker 1: well was this just pushed out through b or is
Speaker 1: this then pushed out through other areas where wait, a
Speaker 1: second Discovery channel has now covered this, National Geographic has
Speaker 1: now covered this. Now you have a lot of quality
Speaker 1: people that are much smarter than myself that are giving
Speaker 1: their opinions. And actually it adds up. It's not just
Speaker 1: a one sided story. And that's just something I really
Speaker 1: appreciate about knowledge, and it's a gift and a curse
Speaker 1: this day and age. There's so much beautiful knowledge out there.
Speaker 1: Yet also you have to be able to filter through
Speaker 1: all the garbage too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of garbage, way too much
Speaker 2: of it. All right, thank Kennya. Like I said, please
Speaker 2: take your time, please tell us about those encounters.
Speaker 1: Now, yes, of course, Well, this first one that I
Speaker 1: got a chance to speak to this individual about occurred
Speaker 1: in April of twenty fourteen in northern Maine. This individual
Speaker 1: is a game warden. He was worried about some repercussions
Speaker 1: about himself talking about what was happening, So he did
Speaker 1: want me not to give away the exact location in
Speaker 1: Maine or his name. And you know how that is.
Speaker 1: It's a respect thing. This gentleman approached me, took his
Speaker 1: time to spread his knowledge and his encounter. It is
Speaker 1: only correct that in return I respect his wishes about that. Well.
Speaker 1: He was out in the early aspects of the morning.
Speaker 1: The sun was just popping up, super cold outside. It
Speaker 1: was also fresh, crunchy snow, very silent. This gentleman has said,
Speaker 1: all you could really hear was the sound of the
Speaker 1: snow underneath his feet. Then out of nowhere he hears
Speaker 1: something that just doesn't really sound like any local wildlife
Speaker 1: he has had a chance to interact with. Keep in mind,
Speaker 1: like this game warden said, just because he's a game
Speaker 1: warden doesn't mean he knows every animal vocalization out there.
Speaker 1: Animals make interesting sounds, whether it's foxes or fissures that
Speaker 1: are up in Maine, coyotes. I mean, look at hyenas, Yes,
Speaker 1: hyenas as far as we know or not in Maine,
Speaker 1: but again, animals make some very interesting vocalizations. He then
Speaker 1: stops and proceeds to really look around. He pulls up
Speaker 1: his scope and as he's looking through the scope, he
Speaker 1: sees a large black bear that is also honing in
Speaker 1: on the sound that he has just heard. Suddenly, out
Speaker 1: of the side of his eye, he sees a blurry
Speaker 1: blackist shadow bolting towards this black bear. Well, as this
Speaker 1: shadow approaches the black bear, he's in disbelief to see
Speaker 1: that this is not a blackest shadow. It's actually something
Speaker 1: that looks like a werewolf, he said, more or less
Speaker 1: like a lot of people say. Out of the howling,
Speaker 1: This large black black bear is now in defense mode
Speaker 1: and stands up and proceeds to try and battle this
Speaker 1: dog man like creature. It bites down on the thigh
Speaker 1: of this dog man. Well guess what. Unfortunately for this
Speaker 1: black bear, that didn't seem to be the proper tactic,
Speaker 1: meaning the dog man then let out some sort of aggressive,
Speaker 1: painful type interaction before eviscerating this black bear. Literally, according
Speaker 1: to this warden, it just slashed this thing's face like crazy,
Speaker 1: and the snow all around now had become covered in blood. Then,
Speaker 1: as if to say that was not very smart, this
Speaker 1: werewolf like creature picked up the black bear and literally
Speaker 1: threw it like a rag doll off the side of
Speaker 1: a tree. At this point in time, the warden is
Speaker 1: obviously completely mortified and terrified, which, well, yes, why would
Speaker 1: you not be. He then fired off a few shots
Speaker 1: in the air from his boomstick, which seemingly did not
Speaker 1: really impress this dog man. Obviously it had some sort
Speaker 1: of understanding as to what this was. It looked around,
Speaker 1: then directly looked at this warden right in the eyes,
Speaker 1: before turning around and then bolting off so fast it
Speaker 1: looked like a blur. Again, imagine having to deal with that.
Speaker 1: And if you are a game warden, you spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time out in the forest. And as you
Speaker 1: and I had talked about, Maine is heavily forested. We
Speaker 1: as far as I know, do not have grizzly bears
Speaker 1: up there, yet we do have very large black bears
Speaker 1: and something that is able to eviscerate a black bear
Speaker 1: so easily and spook this game warden that spends a
Speaker 1: lot of his time out in the forest by himself
Speaker 1: has to have been something that he didn't recognize. And again,
Speaker 1: this gentleman wasn't really trying to get clout. I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't want his name put out there, he didn't
Speaker 1: want the location. So there is no sort of kickback
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, he's not getting followers on the
Speaker 1: good old Instagram, or he's not getting people pushed towards
Speaker 1: his YouTube channel. He has none of that stuff. He
Speaker 1: just felt the need to pass on information that he
Speaker 1: was baffled about.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not just that. What does it say about
Speaker 2: that dog man? I mean, a black beer that's not
Speaker 2: a brown beer, but black beers aren't easy and for
Speaker 2: it to manhandle that black beer that way, what does
Speaker 2: that say about that dog man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, some pretty gnarly stuff. And a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't realize that black bears are actually really not afraid
Speaker 1: of people too much and don't have a ton of fear.
Speaker 1: And a lot of cases where black bears are coming
Speaker 1: after you, they're usually male bears that are most likely
Speaker 1: trying to predate on you. Yeah, obviously if it's a
Speaker 1: female and she has cubs, that's a different story. Yet,
Speaker 1: anyone can go on the good Old YouTube and other platforms,
Speaker 1: and look up cases where people are out riding their
Speaker 1: mountain bikes and there's four or five of them. They're screaming,
Speaker 1: holding up their bikes, trying to make themselves look larger,
Speaker 1: and this bear has no fear, It doesn't care. It
Speaker 1: keeps lumbering towards them until it then speeds up and
Speaker 1: they are like, right, row, this is not going to end. Well, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like you said, a brown bear or a
Speaker 1: Kodiak bear or an Alaskan polar bear. Yet there's still
Speaker 1: an apex predator man.
Speaker 2: Oh that they are. Yeah, that's not my idea. Fun
Speaker 2: all right, do you have any other encounters that you
Speaker 2: can share with this?
Speaker 1: Of course I do. I got one more for you
Speaker 1: from the good old two oh seven, which is Maine
Speaker 1: as well. We have August twenty sixteen, Lexington, Maine. We
Speaker 1: again have people that are experienced outdoorsmen. Doesn't mean they
Speaker 1: have seen everything around yet, it means they spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time outside. We have two hunters that have
Speaker 1: pulled over and let their rotwilers out. All right, now,
Speaker 1: rock wilers are pretty gnarly dogs. Okay, this is not again,
Speaker 1: a smaller breed dog and you have two of them. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're not wolves, but anyone that spends a lot of
Speaker 1: time with canines realizes dogs operate better when there's more
Speaker 1: of them. Right pack oriented, Well, these Rottwilers hop right
Speaker 1: out real quick, getting ready to rumble and head off
Speaker 1: on this hunting adventure. But then they just stop and
Speaker 1: literally bolt right back to their cage. They don't want
Speaker 1: to head on out and explore the area anymore. These
Speaker 1: two hunters now are kind of baffled as to why
Speaker 1: their dogs are alerted to something that doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: be very friendly based because according to these hunters, they're
Speaker 1: rotwilers don't fear anything. Well, then these two hunters realize,
Speaker 1: wait a second, it is really really quiet, And a
Speaker 1: lot of people will know that when an apex predator
Speaker 1: is around, or any predator in general, things tend to
Speaker 1: get quiet in the forest, whether it's a tiger or
Speaker 1: a grizzly bear. It doesn't always have to be like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have had cases where something sounds very
Speaker 1: interesting with a vocalization and it doesn't seem to fall
Speaker 1: into line with anything else that we can verify, and
Speaker 1: you are still hearing crickets and other vocalizations from birds.
Speaker 1: Yet there are tons and tons of cases where it
Speaker 1: is silent. So as these hunters are scanning the area
Speaker 1: trying to figure out why it's so silent, well, guess
Speaker 1: what catches their eye In the side of the bushes
Speaker 1: a short distance away they see the head of what
Speaker 1: looks to be an enormous wolf. Do not get me wrong.
Speaker 1: Recently they have reintroed used wolves into northern Maine and
Speaker 1: Canada is right up there. Animals don't just come to
Speaker 1: the border of California or Maine and just stop being like, hey, nope,
Speaker 1: we can't come in here, all right, this is Maine. Nope,
Speaker 1: we're not allowed here, all right. It doesn't work like that. Yet,
Speaker 1: here's the problem. According to these individuals, this was not
Speaker 1: a wolf. It then stood up out of the bushes
Speaker 1: where they could see from the waist up that this
Speaker 1: thing had long arms that were hanging down and was
Speaker 1: standing upright again. Though, do not get me wrong, there
Speaker 1: are cases that anyone can look at where wolves will
Speaker 1: stand up over tall grass to look down towards things
Speaker 1: that are potentially able to be beasted on that could
Speaker 1: be their meal. According to these two hunters, though this
Speaker 1: was not what had occurred. Even when I did ask
Speaker 1: them could this have been a wolf? Standing up being
Speaker 1: interested as to what was going on, they said in
Speaker 1: no way that its shoulders were just massive and its
Speaker 1: head was just too big to have been a wolf. Well,
Speaker 1: now they didn't really feel comfortable approaching this thing or
Speaker 1: wanting to stick around any longer. And this creature vanished
Speaker 1: back down into the bushes, so they now didn't have
Speaker 1: a visual on this. Their dogs wanted nothing to do
Speaker 1: with what was happening, so thinking that, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: this might not be a situation we should really be pursuing,
Speaker 1: they then hopped back in their truck themselves and sped
Speaker 1: off from the area. And again we're talking about people
Speaker 1: that had a way to defend themselves. They had their
Speaker 1: hunting dogs with them. There isn't just one of them,
Speaker 1: there's two of them plus their dogs. What spooped them
Speaker 1: so bad? I mean, don't get me wrong, a wolf
Speaker 1: is very spooky and an apex predator. Yet they had
Speaker 1: to defend themselves with their boomsticks. And again I am
Speaker 1: not a biologist, yet I do believe probably two full
Speaker 1: grown rottweilers could hold their own first a wolf in
Speaker 1: a pack. Now, of course that's a different story. I've
Speaker 1: seen instances in Yellowstone where these wolves go up to
Speaker 1: a grizzly bear that has her cub with them. As
Speaker 1: this grizzly bear is feasting. They have no interest in
Speaker 1: the grizzly bear itself, though they'll lay right down close
Speaker 1: enough to more or less troll this grizzly bear, being like, hey,
Speaker 1: we don't care about your food. We don't care about you,
Speaker 1: you know what, We care about your cub. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the biologist and the photographers that
Speaker 1: have been following this grizzly bear. The next day, the
Speaker 1: cub isn't there anymore. Well, what do you think happened?
Speaker 1: Obviously the wolves got a hold.
Speaker 2: Of that cub.
Speaker 1: But now we're talking about a pack, right, Sure, I
Speaker 1: guess there could have been more of these if it
Speaker 1: was wolf around. Yet that's not what the hunters said.
Speaker 1: They said this thing let them know it was there,
Speaker 1: and it spooked their dogs very badly. That seems to
Speaker 1: point me in the direction of this was not something
Speaker 1: that had a pack around, and it was not a
Speaker 1: lone wolf, because lone wolves are going to be smart
Speaker 1: enough to realize, hey, I don't have a pack with me.
Speaker 1: If I want to survive, I should probably be smarter
Speaker 1: than showing myself to somebody that has boomsticks and somebody
Speaker 1: that has a large group of rottweilers with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are all good points. And you laid out
Speaker 2: how a timberwolf it will stand up from time to
Speaker 2: time to look over things and whatnot. But the last
Speaker 2: thing a timberwolf was going to do was stand up
Speaker 2: when two rotwilers are right there, because I guess what
Speaker 2: that exposes it's underbelly. But a dog man would, So
Speaker 2: it really does cut down the possibilities on what it
Speaker 2: could have been. I think it had to have been
Speaker 2: a dog.
Speaker 1: Man, right, my friend. And time and time again I
Speaker 1: hear about the elongated arms with the raccoon and squirrel
Speaker 1: like hands. Super interesting, and they were very optimistic that
Speaker 1: this was not a wolf. Like you said, looking up,
Speaker 1: this thing had no fear. It wasn't seemingly just observing them.
Speaker 1: It was most likely trolling them. Yet, as you and
Speaker 1: I had spoke about before, just back with a warden
Speaker 1: case as well. If that bear got a viscerated by
Speaker 1: this dog creature, It could have easily come and got
Speaker 1: that warden if it wanted to, especially if it was
Speaker 1: moving so fast where it Remember Sonic the Hedgehog, right,
Speaker 1: you know how he was kind of like a blur. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what this warden had said. Same thing. Now with
Speaker 1: these two hunters, there's really no reason that thing couldn't
Speaker 1: have got them, especially if it had already spooked off
Speaker 1: their Rottweilers. I mean, what are we dealing with here, right?
Speaker 2: Oh? No doubt no, I agree. Yeah, they can move
Speaker 2: cartoon fast when they want to. When it comes to
Speaker 2: you investigating dog men, Kenny, is there a goal that
Speaker 2: you're working toward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question as well. I just would
Speaker 1: like to get out as much proper information as possible,
Speaker 1: Like you and I just spoke about, you know, telling hey,
Speaker 1: what happened here, but at the same time also explaining
Speaker 1: wait a second, wolves do stand up right as well,
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't add up here, And I would
Speaker 1: just like to really help out individuals understand what it
Speaker 1: is that they could potentially be witnessing. Also just really
Speaker 1: trying to get out the proper information and sharing around
Speaker 1: cases where things just don't add up, like with these
Speaker 1: hunters in the game ward and these people aren't looking
Speaker 1: for clout, they don't have social media, they don't have
Speaker 1: any sort of revenue coming from this, and not that
Speaker 1: that means, hey, one, this has to have been true.
Speaker 1: Yet it adds up a lot more and it doesn't
Speaker 1: have those red flags because they're not getting any sort
Speaker 1: of kickback from this, and they're just really trying to
Speaker 1: explain to individuals such as you and myself, Hey, I
Speaker 1: saw something that I'm not familiar with, and I spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time out in the forest, what is
Speaker 1: it that this could have been? And from there, I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure I can get people such
Speaker 1: as Mindy and others that take their time to interact
Speaker 1: with us in the proper direction, with people that can
Speaker 1: help them figure out what it is they saw or
Speaker 1: also help deal with some of the traumatic aspects that
Speaker 1: they might be dealing with as well. And that would
Speaker 1: be my ultimate goal is just to try and merge
Speaker 1: the scientific community as much as possible with what people
Speaker 1: are dealing with. And if I was given the opportunity
Speaker 1: to sit down in front of a scientific panel, I
Speaker 1: just try to pick and choose what I would pri meaning, Okay,
Speaker 1: these tracks can't be explained by my tracker or anybody else. Sure,
Speaker 1: my tracker, Nouxium doesn't necessarily have the end all be
Speaker 1: all saying anything. Yet this is what he's been doing
Speaker 1: since he was eleventeen, Right, he can't verify this. Then
Speaker 1: I have people that are hunters that again that isn't
Speaker 1: necessarily their specialty tracking. But what do you do when
Speaker 1: you hunt something? You are tracking it? Correct? And if
Speaker 1: they can't verify this as well, all right, boom, we
Speaker 1: got these footprints. Okay, Now by biologists can't verify these vocalizations. Again,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's the end all be all, But then
Speaker 1: other people that are survivalists or hunters, they can't verify
Speaker 1: these vocalizations. All right, let's put that on the table
Speaker 1: right now. And I would love to use some of
Speaker 1: the images that have been submitted to me. Yet they
Speaker 1: all unfortunately kind of are blur squatches, right, except blurred dogmen.
Speaker 1: Meaning it leaves a lot to the imagination. As the
Speaker 1: day and age that we are in, everyone has a
Speaker 1: chance to actually have really quality technology at base, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's cameras or handheld objects like cell phones, which
Speaker 1: would still be cameras could that be Maybe these entities
Speaker 1: have some sort of way of making sure that they
Speaker 1: are distorting these images. Of course, yet I can't verify
Speaker 1: or prove that, So when I want to present that
Speaker 1: to a scientific panel, I just really try to go
Speaker 1: with things that can't be refuted.
Speaker 2: I like the way you approach this. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: the answer to this question is no. But some people
Speaker 2: they see it is the ultimate accomplishment when it comes
Speaker 2: to their investigations, to bag one, to bag a doult
Speaker 2: me in because I see it being a situation where
Speaker 2: if they can bag one, then it'll be a piece
Speaker 2: of cake to prove their existence. I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 2: you definitely don't fit into that group, But i'd want
Speaker 2: to put words into your mouth. How do you feel
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 1: I love it right there, man, I appreciate you in
Speaker 1: the scientific field. I mean, I guess that would be
Speaker 1: the end all, be all right if someone did have
Speaker 1: a corpse in front of them. I mean, that would
Speaker 1: be really hard to refute that, right. I mean, they
Speaker 1: would then be able to do all sort of testing
Speaker 1: and pull information like hair samples away. Yet I don't
Speaker 1: know if that would be necessarily the best approach to
Speaker 1: solve this topic. I just think talking to individuals such
Speaker 1: as yourself, talking to witnesses, talking to scientific based individuals
Speaker 1: is a better way to preserve what is occurring and
Speaker 1: also a more humane way to really try and figure
Speaker 1: out the topic. Meaning, if these individuals are as intelligent
Speaker 1: as people have predicted them to be, whether it's a
Speaker 1: sasquatch or a dog man, would it be in everyone's
Speaker 1: best interest as you had presented, to try and get
Speaker 1: a corpse? I mean, then if these things are processing
Speaker 1: knowledge like we process knowledge, that immediately makes us an enemy,
Speaker 1: all right. And if these things are apex based, which
Speaker 1: it sounds like they are, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: a very safe route to go.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it definitely isn't a safe oute to
Speaker 2: go for a lot of reasons. So many people think
Speaker 2: that if you are able to bag a dog man,
Speaker 2: then boom, you've already proven their existence because the rest
Speaker 2: is downhill. But if you do bag one, your problems
Speaker 2: have just started. So it's just not a good move
Speaker 2: at all to try to even do that. It really
Speaker 2: isn't a bit ago you mentioned that you think the
Speaker 2: dog mean or you realize that the dog me in
Speaker 2: that frightened that game warden could have easily taken him out.
Speaker 2: How dangerous do you think these guys actually are?
Speaker 1: I love that question as well as you and I
Speaker 1: had mentioned. Sure, any apex predator can be extremely dangerous.
Speaker 1: Yet if that was the case with all of these
Speaker 1: to just predate on people, why would there be so
Speaker 1: many individuals that are able to sit down and talk
Speaker 1: with us? Right? I mean, look at a saltwater crocodile
Speaker 1: that's an apex predator. There are very few people that
Speaker 1: have survived saltwater crocodile attacks that are able to talk
Speaker 1: about it. Most of them are no longer with us,
Speaker 1: meaning they have been found by their friends such as, Hey,
Speaker 1: what if you and I had a buddy that was
Speaker 1: out fishing, he told us where he was going, We
Speaker 1: never hear from him again. Well, we go to try
Speaker 1: to look for him, Hey, where is Stu. Stue's not
Speaker 1: in the spot he's supposed to be. And then we
Speaker 1: go to the area. We find his fishing gear, we
Speaker 1: find the drag marks of the saltwater crocodiles that are
Speaker 1: verified to be in this area. He's not ever going
Speaker 1: to be seen again. Why because the saltwater crocodile had
Speaker 1: one purpose to actually feast on him and dispose of him.
Speaker 1: That is why we don't see and hear from many
Speaker 1: people that have survived saltwater crocodile attacks. If they do, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: they are usually named very horribly, meaning they could be
Speaker 1: missing limbs or all kinds of other traumatic aspects. Let's
Speaker 1: just be real for one second. If this dog man
Speaker 1: had one purpose and one intention to just dispose of us,
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be many of us left, right.
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. And I heard Matt Nap. Matt Nap, he
Speaker 2: is a he's not a sasquatch investigator anymore. He's got
Speaker 2: his hands full with other things. But he does produce
Speaker 2: a really good podcast called Bigfoot Crossroads. If you haven't
Speaker 2: checked it out, I really hope you will, because it's
Speaker 2: a good show. Of course, but he has a good point.
Speaker 2: If sasquatch were nearly as dangerous as so many people
Speaker 2: make them out to be, bystanders would be reporting seeing
Speaker 2: family members getting snatched up, friends being snatched up. But
Speaker 2: that doesn't really happen. I mean, sure, yeah, you've got
Speaker 2: sasquatch that do harm and kill people once in a
Speaker 2: blue moon. That would appear, but it's not like most
Speaker 2: of them are wired to be that way anymore than
Speaker 2: dog men are wired to be that way. With dog men,
Speaker 2: of course, like I've said several times, I'm convinced, you
Speaker 2: do have dangerous ones that will do that to you.
Speaker 2: They will snatch you up, and that'll be your end
Speaker 2: if you come across them, because they're just wired to
Speaker 2: be that way. But by and large, the population of
Speaker 2: dog men out there, they're not wired to be that way,
Speaker 2: because if they were, after all the time I've spent
Speaker 2: in the woods, perfect example, I wouldn't be here after
Speaker 2: going out without anyone else with me, without going out,
Speaker 2: going out without a weapon. As many times as I
Speaker 2: have walked hundreds and hundreds of miles through the big
Speaker 2: woods here, I wouldn't be here. And think about how
Speaker 2: many Sasquad researchers meet the bushes every opportunity they get,
Speaker 2: they go through dog Mee and country, and they come back.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I say these things for a reason. It's
Speaker 2: all too easy to look at how frightening these things are,
Speaker 2: to look at and think, okay, well they must be
Speaker 2: really dangerous and they must try to take people out
Speaker 2: at every opportunity but like I said, that's just not
Speaker 2: how it is. Kenny. I'm going to be a guest
Speaker 2: on your show here soon, but wouldn't you think it's
Speaker 2: going to air? I want to make sure that the
Speaker 2: people listening, if they want to check that show out,
Speaker 2: they know when to look for it.
Speaker 1: Well, again, legendary stuff from you, my friend. I totally
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And the big thing with our show is
Speaker 1: if we're doing it tomorrow night, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: having that good old episode out airing on that Wednesday.
Speaker 1: So yes, very shortly after you and I sit down
Speaker 1: and I do finish up another episode that I've been
Speaker 1: plugging away on. I just have had too many irons
Speaker 1: in the fire at the moment. I have not had
Speaker 1: a chance to finish that previous video yet. As soon
Speaker 1: as that's done, guess what's airing on Wednesday? Yours and hours? Man.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know why you'd want such a boring
Speaker 2: guests such as me on your podcast, but I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to coming on it. Nonetheless, I think it's going
Speaker 2: to be a really good time.
Speaker 1: No, it's going to be an excellent time. And calling
Speaker 1: yourself boring is like calling me boring and not aesthetic based.
Speaker 1: It kind of doesn't fit the pie, right.
Speaker 2: No, I see what you're saying, and thanks for the
Speaker 2: good words. I appreciate it. Well. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to it and I'll be there with bells on.
Speaker 2: Well before we get out of here, do you have
Speaker 2: any clothes and comments who want to put out there
Speaker 2: for us?
Speaker 1: Well, first off, I just wanted to thank you for
Speaker 1: your time and your knowledge and what you've done for
Speaker 1: what we've talked about in general and the dog man
Speaker 1: community as well. Without people such as yourself, there wouldn't
Speaker 1: be people such as me that took interest and found
Speaker 1: interest into this. It's a big kudos to you, my friend,
Speaker 1: and to anybody out there that does enjoy different podcasts
Speaker 1: and different information. I cover a lot of different things
Speaker 1: over on Midnight Leacanthropy under the tree of my Brand.
Speaker 1: I have a podcast that is called Camp Nightmare Fuel
Speaker 1: where I dive into true crime, whether it could be
Speaker 1: something involving per Se, Timothy Treadwell that had a terrible
Speaker 1: end with grizzly bears, or any sort of anything that
Speaker 1: falls into the term as nightmare Fuel. I also do
Speaker 1: have another podcast called ghost Mile, which is just a
Speaker 1: loose based term of ghost. We cover abandoned history and
Speaker 1: abandoned towns, which sure some of them do have some
Speaker 1: paranormal based but I'm just using the term ghost towns
Speaker 1: because they are no longer kicking around. In one of
Speaker 1: the recent episodes, we covered Centralia in Pennsylvania, where it's
Speaker 1: believed that this town is going to be on fire
Speaker 1: for another two hundred years and it is now a
Speaker 1: ghost town. And then I do have another podcast called
Speaker 1: wen Crow Speak where on all of these I bring
Speaker 1: in all of my science members as well, and on
Speaker 1: this particular podcast we try to look into things such
Speaker 1: as slender Man and Momo, not the actual Missouri monster
Speaker 1: Momo that made appearances on places they should have on YouTube,
Speaker 1: where it did tie back to an individual in Japan
Speaker 1: that was a very creative based artist, siren Head. We
Speaker 1: try and put closure to that as why a creepy
Speaker 1: pasta is a creepy pasta. It's just information out there
Speaker 1: that is very intriguing and could be found to be
Speaker 1: appealing to certain individuals. Yet we try to bring clarity
Speaker 1: to that. If people have no interest in any of that,
Speaker 1: totally awesome, appreciate it. I have two podcasts that are
Speaker 1: completely separate from all of that. One of my newest
Speaker 1: ones is called The Silence after Rome, where we dive
Speaker 1: into everything that can be verified throughout history. My first
Speaker 1: episode that will be airing pretty shortly on that podcast
Speaker 1: is about Alexander the Great and some of the interactions
Speaker 1: he had with Caesar. I will be covering Attila the Hunt.
Speaker 1: I will be covering Cleopatra, Leonidas, all kinds of other
Speaker 1: amazing things. And then my final podcast is Hockey Nice
Speaker 1: Stories because I actually used to play semi pro hockey
Speaker 1: myself and was a hockey goalie, and being a nerd,
Speaker 1: I watched so much hockey and I'm a huge Boston
Speaker 1: Bruins fan. So yes, those are things that I will
Speaker 1: be working on.
Speaker 2: Man, Holy cal you sure do you stay busy, don't you? Well?
Speaker 1: If I'm ever gonna be a legends such as yourself,
Speaker 1: there is a lot of great information out there, and
Speaker 1: I find so many different things fascinating and it only
Speaker 1: makes sense to do things you enjoy and pursue things
Speaker 1: that keep you happy in life. And all the things
Speaker 1: I named above are things that I find enjoyable.
Speaker 2: Oh, nothing wrong with that, as long as you can
Speaker 2: say that, then you're definitely doing something right. If an
Speaker 2: eyewitness has had a dog mean account, it wants to
Speaker 2: contact you to share an experience with you, Kenny, what's
Speaker 2: the best way for them to do that?
Speaker 1: Again? Thank you. There are a couple ways they could
Speaker 1: hit me up on my YouTube page, which is Lord
Speaker 1: Starfax l O R d E S t A R
Speaker 1: f o X, which is directly connected to me. I
Speaker 1: am on Spotify as well. I am also on Rumble.
Speaker 1: I am on Facebook, which you can send me a
Speaker 1: direct message through Facebook Messenger even if you don't have Facebook.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize you don't have to
Speaker 1: have Facebook to have Facebook Messenger, and you can find
Speaker 1: me on there under Kenny Thibodeau, which is k E
Speaker 1: N N Y. And then yes, I am a frenchie,
Speaker 1: so my last name is Thibodeaux, which is t h
Speaker 1: I B O D E a U. I'm on Instagram,
Speaker 1: I'm on TikTok, so pretty much any sort of platform,
Speaker 1: even Twitter or x I guess as it is called
Speaker 1: these days. You can hit me up on any of
Speaker 1: those and I will definitely respond back to you as
Speaker 1: soon as possible. The quickest way and most active based
Speaker 1: ways would be through my YouTube or through Facebook Messenger.
Speaker 2: Well, that makes it really easy. And two things for
Speaker 2: everyone listening very important here, so that you know, there's
Speaker 2: another YouTube channel that goes by the name Midnight Like
Speaker 2: anthrop that if you do a search, just do a
Speaker 2: search for Midnight Like Anthropy, you're probably gonna wind up
Speaker 2: landing on that YouTube channel, which that's not Kenny's channel.
Speaker 2: I'm going to post a link to his show in
Speaker 2: the description for tonight's show. I'm going to post a
Speaker 2: link to the correct Midnight Like Caanthropy podcast in the
Speaker 2: description for tonight's show. So if you want to check
Speaker 2: out his podcasts, which I hope you do, all the
Speaker 2: links for his podcasts, his contact info, everything's going to
Speaker 2: be in the description, so that'll make it really easy
Speaker 2: for you to do that. But having said all that,
Speaker 2: Kenny aka Lord Star Fox, want to be totally correct here.
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough for coming on to share
Speaker 2: all this information with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Again, thank you so much for your time, Vic and
Speaker 1: yes to the audience. Apparently again someone has tried to
Speaker 1: steal my swagger, which is why I've had to change
Speaker 1: my name so many different times here on YouTube, but
Speaker 1: I do appreciate Vic being able to clarify where you
Speaker 1: can get a hold of me.
Speaker 2: Glad to do it. I want to see you get ahead.
Speaker 2: Well I haven't said all that. Thanks again so much
Speaker 2: for your time, Kennean. Hope you have a great night.