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Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Kenny

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aka Lord Star Fox. Kenny, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Beck you legend you. I finally am here and get

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a chance to talk to you. I really wish I

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could have before. Unfortunately I was potentially a handcuff in

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certain regards, and now I am able to sit here

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and spend some time with you. Brother. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Well, that goes two ways, and gosh, I'm sorry to

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hear about all the stuff you had to go through

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back then. That is not good. But at least you're

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free from all that now.

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Speaker 1: That I am, which is why you and I are

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going to dive into some really epic stuff and I

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am very excited for a lot of new things and

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new projects I get to work on.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to dive deep, that's for sure, and

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of course I'm looking forward to it. But before we

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do get into diving deep into all this, I've got

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to ask you, where did this whole Lord Starfuks thing

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come from.

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Speaker 1: Love the question right there. Long story shore is I

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have always been super creative since I was eleventeen and

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I used to be an actor and model. I always

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found interest in being creative, as mentioned, and I wanted

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to come up with a cool handle. It went all

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over the place. First I started off with Starfucks Starfox Radio,

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and you know how it goes. I kind of got

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my swag taken away from me by others that copied

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my name, So I really was like, okay, what can

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I do now to distinguish myself? And when it comes

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to music, I am all over the place, everything from

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dark stynthwave to new age metalcore to something like Lord,

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the singer from New Zealand. I was like, okay, let's

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put a nice e on the end of Lord here.

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And being a fan of Foxes, which are my favorite

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animals in general, I used to play star Fox when

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I was a kid. Well, it seemed to make sense

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that hey, that's going to be a hard one for

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somebody to steal away from me, and boom, there we go.

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That's how I came across Lord Starfox.

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Speaker 2: That's a rich way to arrive at that nickname. It

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really is. But now that you broke it down for me,

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it all makes sense. It does no.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. It's one of those things that creativity

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just oozes out of everything I do, which is why

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I got into acting back in the day, and I

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was doing everything from helping writing scripts and being in

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front of the camera, and then I got put behind

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the camera because we were a small production company. And

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then eventually in the future we got eight, nine, ten

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different cameras and new camera people. But in the beginning,

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if I wasn't in front of the camera, well they

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had me behind the camera too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been busy. You've got a history. TA that's impressive, Kenny.

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For the people listening, I guess I'm going to put

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that out there for them. You've never had a dog

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mean encounter, but you're a dogman investigator who also has

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a dog mean themed podcast. Please give us your bio

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on how you got your start in all this. Couple

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it in there somewhere. Also, please promote the heck out

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of your Dogmion podcast. Tell us how to listen to it,

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go the whole nine yards.

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Speaker 1: Again, very kind words from you, and I appreciate the

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platform and the opportunity, and yes, I do have a

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bunch of different podcasts. As we get down the road

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here a little bit, we'll talk about some of the others.

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Yet what really got me kicking was Midnight Lacanthropy and

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I always found a fascinating growing up these crypted encounters

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that were occurring. And as you had stated, no, I've

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never had any sort of paranormal or cryptid based encounters whatsoever.

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I am just an investigative photo journalist that tries to

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give people an opportunity to sit down and speak and

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then try to cure them in the proper direction of

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individuals that could potentially help them out a lot more

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than myself. I do have a science team I work

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with called the Midnight Society Science Team, and from there

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we have biologists, we have environmentalists, we have master trackers,

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we have people that work with the psychology aspect of things,

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and then from there I'm able to push my guests

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and friends in a really good direction with individuals that

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are professional and what they need to speak about. That

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was my main goal from the get go, is to

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try to bring in as much science based information as

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I possibly could. I am not a scientist, I'm a nerd.

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I love to learn, and science is something I've been

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fascinated with again since I was a kid. So what

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do we do? We just put it all together here

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now and try to bring in those brilliant minds and

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make sure that they can help try and clarify things.

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Like as I mentioned to you, I understand what tracks

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look like, and I understand how in mud and snow

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and with moisture, tracks can change a lot. Yet I'm

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not a master tracker. So just because I can look

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at something and see, hey, this looks to be canine based,

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whether it's a coyote or a wolf or somebody's domestic

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dog or a bear track, well that's what I got

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my tracker that I can then send it to and

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he can be like, no, this is this specific breed

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of a dog. Then from there I just try to

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be as analytic based as possible. Like I told you,

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you know, picture football, you got your coaches making the

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plays right, Well, they call upstairs to somebody that's nerding

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out with the analytics. Hey do we go for it here? Well,

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I'm kind of that nerd analytics guy that just crunches

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the numbers and tries to just figure out what's going

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on here. And yes, my main base podcast is Midnight Lecanthropy,

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where I specialize in missing people, prehistoric and modern day

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predator behaviorisms, as well as yes unknown canine sightings which

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classify as the dog man.

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Speaker 2: Anyone listening who's wondering When Kinney says that he is

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really into the analytics, he's not kidding. I mean he

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really dives deep when he does research. We're not going

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to get into it right now, but so that you

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know in just a bit here he put a lot

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of research. He dove deep into looking into the alleged

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LBL murders, and what he found out is pretty jarring.

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I'll just put it that way. But like I said,

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we'll get into that in just a bit. Before we do, though,

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how did you wind up investigating dog men the way

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you do and to what extent do you investigate them?

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Speaker 1: I love it? My friend. Well, there are some really

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great individuals that are actually big fans of yours as well,

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and that you've been able to interact with that helped

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me build an awesome platform, which was something I really

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appreciated because you know, I started off very small and

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I still am small, but awesome individuals such as one

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of my science members, Colleen O'Hara, who runs Pocatello Paranormal Research.

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She has been a huge ad kit of supporting what

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I do and really trying to add her brain and

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her knowledge into what it is that I'm trying to

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conquer here, which has massively helped me out. And then

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I had other beautiful people like the Cryptid Huntress aka

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Jessica Jones that really sat down with me and helped

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me understand things that were going on and gave me

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another beautiful platform. And as I mentioned to you before,

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Shane Michael Crisp with the West Coast dog Man Project

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who's a huge fan of yours as well. He again

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gave me a platform and was really a big advocate

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of picking my brain about topics and wondering my thought

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process on things, which was super important to me. Then

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I had others again that love you, like Drew Ski

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from Cryptid Warfare and doctor Dennis Carroll from Hunting the Shadows.

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All these people are super brilliant at what they do

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and they have been doing it a lot longer than

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I could ever imagine to be doing this topic. And

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from there, guess what I got to meet people like

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Mindy who's been on and a great friend of yours

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and also a huge fan too, and it all just

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really fell into place that I was able to take

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my nerding aspect about what is going on and really

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be able to then piece it all together and talk

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to people that have had more experiences than me, that

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are much smarter than myself, and it really just started

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to fall into place that hey, I can use my

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interest in this topic and then also my friends that

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I just mentioned and really just put it all together

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and build something that hasn't really necessarily been built in

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this community with the science and also just crushing those

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analytics because I have people from all different realms that

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have helped me understand and things and where this potential

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creature could fall into line whether it's paranormal based or

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is it physical such as you and I, or is

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it an extraterrestrial or could it be something that is

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completely spiritual that doesn't have to be necessarily paranormal. And

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now I'm just really trying to find what's happening out there.

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And the Paul Myra case up in Maine with a

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Martin family was one of the first cases that I

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actually got to go and kind of poke around the area.

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I never did get to speak to the Martin family

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or was unable to get in contact with any of

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the newer owners of the farmstead yet, being from Boston

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originally and mains right up around the corner, and I

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spent a lot of time in Maine. I got a

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chance to go up to Madagascar Road, which is near Rangeley,

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in a huge animal reserve, and there's a ton of

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nature up there. People don't realize Maine is the most

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for rested state in the whole United States right there.

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some of the locals up there. And after that, it

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just all kind of seems to start cruising. Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to find a better place for a

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dog man to scratch out a living than Maine Vermont,

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with all the trees and everything. Yeah, it's perfect for him,

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it really is. Well, like I said a bit ago, Kenny,

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you researched the LBL the alleged LBO murders, and told

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me that you made some pretty startling discoveries. Please expand

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to be listening to this topic, and if they know

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who I am, they of course know who you are.

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in the game. It's got to be the LBL massacre.

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over YouTube as well. So I started again taking interest

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work with that are down in that area that have

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actually had firsthand experience with figuring out, hey, what happened here?

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family that supposedly was attacked and disposed of by this

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dog man, which involved a husband and wife and also

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their children, their daughter and also their son. The daughter

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was younger than the son he was supposed to have

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been in his teenage years. That is what was number one.

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that really floats around with the whole LBL. And I

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again have friends that are former law enforcement that are

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still current law enforcement, that are scientific based or they're

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just researchers that have gone down there and really taken

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a second to dive into it, and the first part

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with the massacre, of course, I found it fascinating, just

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like everybody else did. And the woman that originally presented

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it was Jan Thompson, and rest in peace. She is

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no longer with us, which it would be really awesome

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to have had a chance to sit down and speak

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with her. All I can really go off of is

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the interviews that I have seen her speak in and

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also some of my own research that I have done,

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and it just doesn't really seem to add up in

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a lot of ways, meaning where it kind of all

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originated was off of a Reddit thread and also four Chan,

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and Jan did have a background and being an author,

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she did have an interest in writing short based horror

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stories as previously mentioned. Being a former actor and having

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experience in the modeling industry, I understand how certain things

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work and scripts and such, how you really hone in

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on certain details. And when I started looking through her

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posts on Reddit and four Chan, the issue is some

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of the details that she dove into and how she

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really honed in on those details reminded me a lot

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about how an author would want to describe something. And

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then I found out wait, she was an author, and hey,

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Reddit's an interesting place, so is four Chan. Yet I

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don't really take too much stock into those platforms. There

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over time has not really been anything groundbreaking that's come

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out of their platforms. It's usually things that are just

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people being creative or looking for answers. And then four

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Chan is almost seemingly a hoax based site. It just

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really didn't seem to make sense to me that why

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they originally were posted on those threads. And then from

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there it gained steam and she was able to then

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sit down and do some interviews with other people. Also,

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as I mentioned to you, I do work with people

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that specialize in certain aspects like body language and the

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way people are presenting themselves in front of the camera, etc.

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There's just, unfortunately, some are red flags with that that

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don't really seem to add up in regards of being

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able to be extensively verified as a real case.

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Speaker 2: It's funny we're talking about this because right around ten

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years ago or so, I reached out to Jan to

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try to talk with her, have her come on the

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show so I could interview her, and yeah, unfortunately she

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didn't want to have anything to do with me, so

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I never did get a chance to go to up

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with all these details. So yeah, I mean if she

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did falsify the story, even shame on her. It really

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is a shame if that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Yes, very much so. And even for a second, let's

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say if it was potentially a real thing that did

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occur in the area where it did happen, you would

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not just necessarily have had one group of individuals working

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on the case. Meaning if you look at where I

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used to live up in Maine, in Gorham, it was

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a smaller community, so they necessarily would not have been

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able to have a large enough task force to deal

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with something like that. They would be calling in people

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from Portland, from Westbrook, from Scarborough, all these other communities

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that are nearby that would come in and deal with this.

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So to be able to track down anyone that actually

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really did per se participate in this event would be

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nearly impossible. And it did happen so long ago now

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that there would be a high probability that even if

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someone was there, they're not still going to be around

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with us to be able to verify any of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty convenient when it comes to those murderers.

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It's really hard to make heads or tails out of

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all that. I mean, on one hand, I know, if

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people who they researched it and people that they knew

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who didn't know each other, they corroborated each other's stories,

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they would take this person to the scene of where

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the first murders supposedly happened with the RV, the family

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and the RV. This friend over here would take this

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person to that site, which doesn't look like a campsite anymore,

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it's been demolished. But this friend of this person, this investigator,

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would take that investigator to that site and tell them

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all the history of that site and how that was

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supposedly where the incident happened. And then a totally different

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friend who didn't know that first friend, would take this

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investigator to the exact same place. I mean that right there,

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it kind of corroborates that maybe there is some there there.

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But on the other hand, there are a lot of

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things too that make me really wonder if it actually

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did happen. I don't know, it's just so hard to

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make heads or tails out of that, but it sounds

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like you've put a lot of research into it, so

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that just makes me really wonder. That much more about it.

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I will tell you this, that guy who came forward,

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what was his name, who claimed to be underneath the

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RV when this all went down.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, talking about good old Roger. I would you know, yeah,

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necessarily give him that platform. But yes, he would be

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the individual that came forth to speak about that. And

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again his story doesn't add up as well, Meaning if

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these things are an apex predator, how would he have

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just hidden underneath an RV and not been picked up

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by this dog man creature afterwards? If this family was

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Amish based, they most likely would not have been driving

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this type of glorified RV that had been mentioned. They

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also most likely would not have had Roger around to

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hang out with them either, meaning they seem to be

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a tight knit community, so that part didn't really add up.

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And then if they did drive as far as they

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were perceived to have driven in this RV, it would

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have been way too hot upon those axle spots for

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him to have been able to hold onto that as well.

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And then let's be real, how convenient is it that

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supposedly this local farmer just happened to show up as

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Roger was running around in the darkness and this guy

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just picks him up to save them from this dog

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man creature and then brings them back where all these

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officials come in and talk to him. I don't know.

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That's a tough one to swallow, you man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of it that just doesn't

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pass the sniff test. Full disclosure, I've never listened to

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Rogers share or his side of the story. All I

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knew about the whole Roger incident was that he went

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onto a podcast where he contacted me via email, probably

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about three years after he went on this particular podcast,

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and he just from what I understand. Again, I didn't

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listen to that podcast episode he was featured on, but

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he lit me up talking about how I'm a liar

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and how I'm a horrible person I guess and this

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and that. Well, he contacted me about three years after

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going on that podcast to let me know that the

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guy who was behind that podcast leaned on him to

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have him say those things about me. Well, I had

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never spoken with him, never spoke a word with him

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ever before that show ever aired. My first exposure to

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him wasn't until he sent me that email about three

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years after that podcast episode aired. Where he was talking

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about he was assassinating my character. So he said he

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felt bad about doing that, But that right there told

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me that, Okay, well, he is a liar. He's definitely

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capable of lying. He did it once. Who's to say

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he's not going to do it again. And like you've

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laid out on the table for us, I mean, there's

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so many things about his story that just do not

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add up. So I just can't see how that could

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have been real, any of the things he claimed. I

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just can't see how that could have been real. Info

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about what went down.

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Speaker 1: Reached my friend, and you're just hitting it right on

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the good old head of the net here. Unfortunately, you know,

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as you have a large platform, and as you and

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I had talked about before, people are just always going

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to try and discredit individuals or tear people down. In

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a perfect world, everyone should be happy for people's success. Yeah,

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it doesn't always work like that. And the same thing

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with what had happened with me. I would have loved

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to have been here with you a long time ago. Yeah,

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I was also steered in the wrong direction. And when

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people do that, it just is a way to try

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and bring clout back their way, but also to try

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and tear somebody down. And as you stated, when you

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catch somebody in something that doesn't make a lot of sense,

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well that's when we as individuals need to really do

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our own due diligence and make sure that we are

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not being fooled, because, you know how it is in

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the crypted field a lot of definitely interesting, intriguing aspects,

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Yet hoaxing is very rampant. I don't know how many

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times people have tried to submit things to me that

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weren't their own material, or they thought I was going

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to be stupid enough to just buy into it. Yet

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then when I do reverse Google research on certain images,

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Oh wait a second, this image came from here, Or

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I have AI programs that I work with that I

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can run an image through and guess what they're like. Nope,

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this is an AI based image. Or if you watch

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some of the AI based monster aquatic animals out there

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that are in fish tanks, it looks pretty real except

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for the fact, well wait a second, how come the

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rocks on the bottom of the fish tank don't move

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when this creature is splashing all around? Well, guess what

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it's because it's AI based and then as you watch

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the video and you really pay attention to details. I

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am a perfectionist with my editing and my art, so yes,

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I understand how certain things work. I will use AI

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sometimes to help save me on time myself. Yet, if

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I create an image in there, and let's say the

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moon isn't coming down properly on the fur, this wolf

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creature created will go in and I will morph the

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moonlight to hit the proper shading aspect that is going on. Yet,

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when you look at a lot of these AI videos,

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things don't add up. All of a sudden, the fin

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is in a different spot which you don't really see

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unless you pay a lot of attention to Or recently,

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this video of a moose battling another moose that hits

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the side of this police car. Okay, well, yes, the

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skid marks are verifiable in this video, but how come

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there's no scratches on the side of the police car after.

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I mean, I'm not a animal biologist, but I'm pretty

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sure a large adult male moose that is battling with

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another male moose that hit the side of a police

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car would leave some enter in that car. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. I love AI and I'm excited about the

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potential it holds, but as it is right now, it

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just really doesn't have any common sense and it definitely

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shows when you look for things like that. If you

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look closely enough, you'll notice things like what you just

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laid out. So yeah, it's just one of those things.

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But as time goes on, I'm sure it's going to

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get a lot better and you won't have that. But

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for right now, yeah, it does leave a lot to

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be desired. All right, Kenny. Having said all that, I

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know you've got some encounters to share with us now,

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so whenever you're ready, please.

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Speaker 1: Do that, yes, of course. And just to touch base

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on the last one, like with the bowhunter you had

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spoke about down in the LBL before, we do dive

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into two main encounters that I actually got a chance

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to spend time with speaking with these individuals. The thing

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about the bowhunter as well, there's a very high probability, unfortunately,

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that he was involved in a poaching accident. I do

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know from friends of mine that are down in Kentucky

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and Tennessee that spend a lot of time in the LBL.

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It is an area where people do poach a lot.

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And what happens on federal land. If a poaching accident

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happens and it's verifiable, that's big time money that needs

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to come out correct to pay the family member that

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unfortunately had this accident occur. So a lot of those

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individuals I respect down in this area have really great

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evidence to support that the local authorities let the whole

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dog man thing run wild, because it actually took away

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from the aspect of how this bow hunter was unfortunately

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taken away from us in a poaching accident. Meaning when

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certain people that I really trust and value their opinion

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went down and were able to actually look at the

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area and were able to have a chance and even

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look at the body and his bow and all kinds

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of other things, well, a lot of things don't add

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up as well, meaning his campsite wasn't ravaged, his bow

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was not broken and destroyed, there was no sort of

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really traumatic type of injuries of something like you were saying,

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a massive dog man per se feeding on him. Yes,

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there are insects, and there are local animals that did

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come in and had, you know, consumed a little bit

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of this hunter's body. Yet here's where it gets really fishy.

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There were drag marks, meaning someone pulled him from this

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area and placed him up against the tree that he

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was found at all. Right, well, here comes some more

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stuff that doesn't add up. Why were there tire tracks

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leading off away from this bowhunter back onto the main

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road in the area of the LBL where somebody could

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have just hopped into their truck after and drove away.

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That really doesn't seem to add up.

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Speaker 2: Again, you make some really good points, you really do.

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There's so many lies when it comes to this little

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dog Man field. I mean, it just makes it so

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hard to get to the bottom of things. And it's

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no wonder it's not any further ahead than it already

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is because you have to cut through the chaff. Speaking

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of that, one of the reasons why we're airing this

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show tonight is I got fed up with people trying

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to lie their way onto the show. More than one

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person has recently been trying to lie the way onto

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the show, and I thought, you know what, if I

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bring an investigator on, I'm not going to have worry

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about that. So for tonight's show, that's one of the

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reasons why you're here. It shouldn't be that way. It

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really is a shame.

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Speaker 1: Well again, thank you so much for the kudos, my friend.

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And I am, like I said, just an investigative photo

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journalist that is fascinated with history, that is fascinated with facts,

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and I just really try to do a lot of

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quality research before I ever make any sort of opinions

481
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,480
on topics or anything, because, like you had mentioned, unfortunately

482
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:37,160
it is a field that is rampant, that people trying

483
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,839
to gain clout, trying to gain publicity, trying to make money,

484
00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:46,480
et cetera. And with that, well, of course we have

485
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,519
run into hoaxing massively, as you stated, and I'm not

486
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,480
here to ever try to bury individuals or call people out. Yeah,

487
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:00,759
as you had mentioned, you call a thing a thing,

488
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:04,799
right If something doesn't add up and it's being passed

489
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:09,720
along as proper and quality information, yet it's not, and

490
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:14,359
there are holes in these stories, it only seems logical

491
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:18,079
to take the time to really step back and do

492
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,920
your own research. And to everyone that values my opinions

493
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,160
on things, including yourself, I so love that and I

494
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,799
appreciate it. Yet I always do preach on my own shows. Hey,

495
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:32,920
do your own research, all right, don't just take my

496
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:36,960
science members or myself at face value, go out and

497
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:41,240
be able to make inform your own opinions. Meaning I

498
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,319
love Discovery Channel, I love History Channel, I love Time Magazine.

499
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,480
I know a lot of people don't like the Smithsonian,

500
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:50,839
but I love History. That's super cool too. Yet I

501
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:54,480
don't just take BBC at face value. Okay. I would

502
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:56,960
then go out and look around and be like, okay,

503
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:01,599
well was this just pushed out through b or is

504
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,519
this then pushed out through other areas where wait, a

505
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:09,720
second Discovery channel has now covered this, National Geographic has

506
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:12,920
now covered this. Now you have a lot of quality

507
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:16,079
people that are much smarter than myself that are giving

508
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,319
their opinions. And actually it adds up. It's not just

509
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:23,599
a one sided story. And that's just something I really

510
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,680
appreciate about knowledge, and it's a gift and a curse

511
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:30,680
this day and age. There's so much beautiful knowledge out there.

512
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:34,400
Yet also you have to be able to filter through

513
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,480
all the garbage too.

514
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of garbage, way too much

515
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:42,359
of it. All right, thank Kennya. Like I said, please

516
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,440
take your time, please tell us about those encounters.

517
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: Now, yes, of course, Well, this first one that I

518
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,160
got a chance to speak to this individual about occurred

519
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:58,440
in April of twenty fourteen in northern Maine. This individual

520
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,200
is a game warden. He was worried about some repercussions

521
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,519
about himself talking about what was happening, So he did

522
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:10,759
want me not to give away the exact location in

523
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200
Maine or his name. And you know how that is.

524
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:16,799
It's a respect thing. This gentleman approached me, took his

525
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,799
time to spread his knowledge and his encounter. It is

526
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:25,519
only correct that in return I respect his wishes about that. Well.

527
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,200
He was out in the early aspects of the morning.

528
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,119
The sun was just popping up, super cold outside. It

529
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,440
was also fresh, crunchy snow, very silent. This gentleman has said,

530
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:40,759
all you could really hear was the sound of the

531
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:46,359
snow underneath his feet. Then out of nowhere he hears

532
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:50,640
something that just doesn't really sound like any local wildlife

533
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:54,480
he has had a chance to interact with. Keep in mind,

534
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,240
like this game warden said, just because he's a game

535
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:01,559
warden doesn't mean he knows every animal vocalization out there.

536
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,119
Animals make interesting sounds, whether it's foxes or fissures that

537
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,159
are up in Maine, coyotes. I mean, look at hyenas, Yes,

538
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,360
hyenas as far as we know or not in Maine,

539
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,440
but again, animals make some very interesting vocalizations. He then

540
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:21,840
stops and proceeds to really look around. He pulls up

541
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,960
his scope and as he's looking through the scope, he

542
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:30,159
sees a large black bear that is also honing in

543
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,679
on the sound that he has just heard. Suddenly, out

544
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,440
of the side of his eye, he sees a blurry

545
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:43,199
blackist shadow bolting towards this black bear. Well, as this

546
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,599
shadow approaches the black bear, he's in disbelief to see

547
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:52,559
that this is not a blackest shadow. It's actually something

548
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,239
that looks like a werewolf, he said, more or less

549
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,719
like a lot of people say. Out of the howling,

550
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,679
This large black black bear is now in defense mode

551
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,840
and stands up and proceeds to try and battle this

552
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,320
dog man like creature. It bites down on the thigh

553
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:17,239
of this dog man. Well guess what. Unfortunately for this

554
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,239
black bear, that didn't seem to be the proper tactic,

555
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:26,159
meaning the dog man then let out some sort of aggressive,

556
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:33,000
painful type interaction before eviscerating this black bear. Literally, according

557
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,920
to this warden, it just slashed this thing's face like crazy,

558
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,400
and the snow all around now had become covered in blood. Then,

559
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,679
as if to say that was not very smart, this

560
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,320
werewolf like creature picked up the black bear and literally

561
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,039
threw it like a rag doll off the side of

562
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:55,840
a tree. At this point in time, the warden is

563
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,840
obviously completely mortified and terrified, which, well, yes, why would

564
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,440
you not be. He then fired off a few shots

565
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,960
in the air from his boomstick, which seemingly did not

566
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,719
really impress this dog man. Obviously it had some sort

567
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,360
of understanding as to what this was. It looked around,

568
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:20,400
then directly looked at this warden right in the eyes,

569
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,440
before turning around and then bolting off so fast it

570
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,039
looked like a blur. Again, imagine having to deal with that.

571
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,760
And if you are a game warden, you spend a

572
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,599
lot of time out in the forest. And as you

573
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:37,760
and I had talked about, Maine is heavily forested. We

574
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,239
as far as I know, do not have grizzly bears

575
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,320
up there, yet we do have very large black bears

576
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,119
and something that is able to eviscerate a black bear

577
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,800
so easily and spook this game warden that spends a

578
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,199
lot of his time out in the forest by himself

579
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,159
has to have been something that he didn't recognize. And again,

580
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,679
this gentleman wasn't really trying to get clout. I mean,

581
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,880
he didn't want his name put out there, he didn't

582
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,639
want the location. So there is no sort of kickback

583
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:09,840
for him. I mean, he's not getting followers on the

584
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,519
good old Instagram, or he's not getting people pushed towards

585
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:15,920
his YouTube channel. He has none of that stuff. He

586
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:19,519
just felt the need to pass on information that he

587
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:20,719
was baffled about.

588
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: Well, it's not just that. What does it say about

589
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,599
that dog man? I mean, a black beer that's not

590
00:37:26,639 --> 00:37:29,800
a brown beer, but black beers aren't easy and for

591
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,840
it to manhandle that black beer that way, what does

592
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,239
that say about that dog man?

593
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, some pretty gnarly stuff. And a lot of people

594
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:43,280
don't realize that black bears are actually really not afraid

595
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,960
of people too much and don't have a ton of fear.

596
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:50,199
And a lot of cases where black bears are coming

597
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,719
after you, they're usually male bears that are most likely

598
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,679
trying to predate on you. Yeah, obviously if it's a

599
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:00,480
female and she has cubs, that's a different story. Yet,

600
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:04,360
anyone can go on the good Old YouTube and other platforms,

601
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,280
and look up cases where people are out riding their

602
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,960
mountain bikes and there's four or five of them. They're screaming,

603
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:14,280
holding up their bikes, trying to make themselves look larger,

604
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,559
and this bear has no fear, It doesn't care. It

605
00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:21,119
keeps lumbering towards them until it then speeds up and

606
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:24,639
they are like, right, row, this is not going to end. Well, so, yeah,

607
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,840
it's not like you said, a brown bear or a

608
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,559
Kodiak bear or an Alaskan polar bear. Yet there's still

609
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:34,159
an apex predator man.

610
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,679
Speaker 2: Oh that they are. Yeah, that's not my idea. Fun

611
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,639
all right, do you have any other encounters that you

612
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:41,320
can share with this?

613
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Of course I do. I got one more for you

614
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,199
from the good old two oh seven, which is Maine

615
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:53,920
as well. We have August twenty sixteen, Lexington, Maine. We

616
00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:58,679
again have people that are experienced outdoorsmen. Doesn't mean they

617
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,119
have seen everything around yet, it means they spend a

618
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:04,679
lot of time outside. We have two hunters that have

619
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,559
pulled over and let their rotwilers out. All right, now,

620
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,199
rock wilers are pretty gnarly dogs. Okay, this is not again,

621
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,960
a smaller breed dog and you have two of them. Yes,

622
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,960
they're not wolves, but anyone that spends a lot of

623
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,679
time with canines realizes dogs operate better when there's more

624
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,000
of them. Right pack oriented, Well, these Rottwilers hop right

625
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:30,199
out real quick, getting ready to rumble and head off

626
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,360
on this hunting adventure. But then they just stop and

627
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:38,039
literally bolt right back to their cage. They don't want

628
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:44,159
to head on out and explore the area anymore. These

629
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:47,119
two hunters now are kind of baffled as to why

630
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:51,480
their dogs are alerted to something that doesn't seem to

631
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:56,320
be very friendly based because according to these hunters, they're

632
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,920
rotwilers don't fear anything. Well, then these two hunters realize,

633
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,840
wait a second, it is really really quiet, And a

634
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,000
lot of people will know that when an apex predator

635
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:12,320
is around, or any predator in general, things tend to

636
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,679
get quiet in the forest, whether it's a tiger or

637
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:17,960
a grizzly bear. It doesn't always have to be like that.

638
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:22,000
I mean, I have had cases where something sounds very

639
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,800
interesting with a vocalization and it doesn't seem to fall

640
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,400
into line with anything else that we can verify, and

641
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,719
you are still hearing crickets and other vocalizations from birds.

642
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,360
Yet there are tons and tons of cases where it

643
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,840
is silent. So as these hunters are scanning the area

644
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,719
trying to figure out why it's so silent, well, guess

645
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,679
what catches their eye In the side of the bushes

646
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,960
a short distance away they see the head of what

647
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:57,400
looks to be an enormous wolf. Do not get me wrong.

648
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:02,880
Recently they have reintroed used wolves into northern Maine and

649
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,800
Canada is right up there. Animals don't just come to

650
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,280
the border of California or Maine and just stop being like, hey, nope,

651
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,039
we can't come in here, all right, this is Maine. Nope,

652
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:17,239
we're not allowed here, all right. It doesn't work like that. Yet,

653
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,039
here's the problem. According to these individuals, this was not

654
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,159
a wolf. It then stood up out of the bushes

655
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,840
where they could see from the waist up that this

656
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,519
thing had long arms that were hanging down and was

657
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:37,239
standing upright again. Though, do not get me wrong, there

658
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,639
are cases that anyone can look at where wolves will

659
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:45,159
stand up over tall grass to look down towards things

660
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:48,920
that are potentially able to be beasted on that could

661
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,880
be their meal. According to these two hunters, though this

662
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:55,840
was not what had occurred. Even when I did ask

663
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,880
them could this have been a wolf? Standing up being

664
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,920
interested as to what was going on, they said in

665
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,679
no way that its shoulders were just massive and its

666
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,400
head was just too big to have been a wolf. Well,

667
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:14,840
now they didn't really feel comfortable approaching this thing or

668
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,719
wanting to stick around any longer. And this creature vanished

669
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,760
back down into the bushes, so they now didn't have

670
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,920
a visual on this. Their dogs wanted nothing to do

671
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:30,639
with what was happening, so thinking that, hey, you know,

672
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,039
this might not be a situation we should really be pursuing,

673
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:38,679
they then hopped back in their truck themselves and sped

674
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,920
off from the area. And again we're talking about people

675
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,119
that had a way to defend themselves. They had their

676
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:48,920
hunting dogs with them. There isn't just one of them,

677
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,480
there's two of them plus their dogs. What spooped them

678
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,679
so bad? I mean, don't get me wrong, a wolf

679
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,760
is very spooky and an apex predator. Yet they had

680
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,920
to defend themselves with their boomsticks. And again I am

681
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,559
not a biologist, yet I do believe probably two full

682
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:12,519
grown rottweilers could hold their own first a wolf in

683
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:15,360
a pack. Now, of course that's a different story. I've

684
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,840
seen instances in Yellowstone where these wolves go up to

685
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:23,840
a grizzly bear that has her cub with them. As

686
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,960
this grizzly bear is feasting. They have no interest in

687
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,519
the grizzly bear itself, though they'll lay right down close

688
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:33,880
enough to more or less troll this grizzly bear, being like, hey,

689
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,119
we don't care about your food. We don't care about you,

690
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:39,719
you know what, We care about your cub. And then

691
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,840
all of a sudden, the biologist and the photographers that

692
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,039
have been following this grizzly bear. The next day, the

693
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:49,320
cub isn't there anymore. Well, what do you think happened?

694
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:51,679
Obviously the wolves got a hold.

695
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,079
Speaker 2: Of that cub.

696
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,679
Speaker 1: But now we're talking about a pack, right, Sure, I

697
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,280
guess there could have been more of these if it

698
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,599
was wolf around. Yet that's not what the hunters said.

699
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:05,760
They said this thing let them know it was there,

700
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:10,480
and it spooked their dogs very badly. That seems to

701
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:14,400
point me in the direction of this was not something

702
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:17,840
that had a pack around, and it was not a

703
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,840
lone wolf, because lone wolves are going to be smart

704
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,199
enough to realize, hey, I don't have a pack with me.

705
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,280
If I want to survive, I should probably be smarter

706
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,199
than showing myself to somebody that has boomsticks and somebody

707
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:35,280
that has a large group of rottweilers with them.

708
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are all good points. And you laid out

709
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,320
how a timberwolf it will stand up from time to

710
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,719
time to look over things and whatnot. But the last

711
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,840
thing a timberwolf was going to do was stand up

712
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,719
when two rotwilers are right there, because I guess what

713
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,119
that exposes it's underbelly. But a dog man would, So

714
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,280
it really does cut down the possibilities on what it

715
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,840
could have been. I think it had to have been

716
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,519
a dog.

717
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,159
Speaker 1: Man, right, my friend. And time and time again I

718
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,559
hear about the elongated arms with the raccoon and squirrel

719
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:14,039
like hands. Super interesting, and they were very optimistic that

720
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:16,559
this was not a wolf. Like you said, looking up,

721
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:20,320
this thing had no fear. It wasn't seemingly just observing them.

722
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,960
It was most likely trolling them. Yet, as you and

723
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,840
I had spoke about before, just back with a warden

724
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,320
case as well. If that bear got a viscerated by

725
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,960
this dog creature, It could have easily come and got

726
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,599
that warden if it wanted to, especially if it was

727
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:40,440
moving so fast where it Remember Sonic the Hedgehog, right,

728
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:42,559
you know how he was kind of like a blur. Well,

729
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:45,639
that's what this warden had said. Same thing. Now with

730
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:49,679
these two hunters, there's really no reason that thing couldn't

731
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,920
have got them, especially if it had already spooked off

732
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,400
their Rottweilers. I mean, what are we dealing with here, right?

733
00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:00,639
Speaker 2: Oh? No doubt no, I agree. Yeah, they can move

734
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:03,960
cartoon fast when they want to. When it comes to

735
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,320
you investigating dog men, Kenny, is there a goal that

736
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,280
you're working toward.

737
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question as well. I just would

738
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:15,840
like to get out as much proper information as possible,

739
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,599
Like you and I just spoke about, you know, telling hey,

740
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,639
what happened here, but at the same time also explaining

741
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,679
wait a second, wolves do stand up right as well,

742
00:46:27,199 --> 00:46:29,760
but it just doesn't add up here, And I would

743
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,159
just like to really help out individuals understand what it

744
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,199
is that they could potentially be witnessing. Also just really

745
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,199
trying to get out the proper information and sharing around

746
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,079
cases where things just don't add up, like with these

747
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:47,599
hunters in the game ward and these people aren't looking

748
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:51,239
for clout, they don't have social media, they don't have

749
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,800
any sort of revenue coming from this, and not that

750
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,679
that means, hey, one, this has to have been true.

751
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:02,280
Yet it adds up a lot more and it doesn't

752
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,280
have those red flags because they're not getting any sort

753
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,679
of kickback from this, and they're just really trying to

754
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,119
explain to individuals such as you and myself, Hey, I

755
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:16,039
saw something that I'm not familiar with, and I spend

756
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:19,480
a lot of time out in the forest, what is

757
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:23,119
it that this could have been? And from there, I

758
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,639
just want to make sure I can get people such

759
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:29,599
as Mindy and others that take their time to interact

760
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:32,719
with us in the proper direction, with people that can

761
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,920
help them figure out what it is they saw or

762
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,880
also help deal with some of the traumatic aspects that

763
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,440
they might be dealing with as well. And that would

764
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,159
be my ultimate goal is just to try and merge

765
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:50,360
the scientific community as much as possible with what people

766
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,159
are dealing with. And if I was given the opportunity

767
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,519
to sit down in front of a scientific panel, I

768
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,400
just try to pick and choose what I would pri meaning, Okay,

769
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:06,360
these tracks can't be explained by my tracker or anybody else. Sure,

770
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,760
my tracker, Nouxium doesn't necessarily have the end all be

771
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,800
all saying anything. Yet this is what he's been doing

772
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,320
since he was eleventeen, Right, he can't verify this. Then

773
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,320
I have people that are hunters that again that isn't

774
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,079
necessarily their specialty tracking. But what do you do when

775
00:48:26,119 --> 00:48:28,960
you hunt something? You are tracking it? Correct? And if

776
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,079
they can't verify this as well, all right, boom, we

777
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:38,800
got these footprints. Okay, Now by biologists can't verify these vocalizations. Again,

778
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:42,239
doesn't mean he's the end all be all, But then

779
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:47,039
other people that are survivalists or hunters, they can't verify

780
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:50,000
these vocalizations. All right, let's put that on the table

781
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:53,719
right now. And I would love to use some of

782
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,079
the images that have been submitted to me. Yet they

783
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:01,400
all unfortunately kind of are blur squatches, right, except blurred dogmen.

784
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,679
Meaning it leaves a lot to the imagination. As the

785
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,280
day and age that we are in, everyone has a

786
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:16,880
chance to actually have really quality technology at base, you know,

787
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,239
whether it's cameras or handheld objects like cell phones, which

788
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,559
would still be cameras could that be Maybe these entities

789
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:30,480
have some sort of way of making sure that they

790
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:35,760
are distorting these images. Of course, yet I can't verify

791
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,320
or prove that, So when I want to present that

792
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,599
to a scientific panel, I just really try to go

793
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,159
with things that can't be refuted.

794
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: I like the way you approach this. I'm pretty sure

795
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,119
the answer to this question is no. But some people

796
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:56,280
they see it is the ultimate accomplishment when it comes

797
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,920
to their investigations, to bag one, to bag a doult

798
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:03,760
me in because I see it being a situation where

799
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,519
if they can bag one, then it'll be a piece

800
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:09,679
of cake to prove their existence. I'm pretty sure that

801
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,559
you definitely don't fit into that group, But i'd want

802
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:14,920
to put words into your mouth. How do you feel

803
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,440
about that?

804
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: I love it right there, man, I appreciate you in

805
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:23,119
the scientific field. I mean, I guess that would be

806
00:50:23,199 --> 00:50:25,599
the end all, be all right if someone did have

807
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:29,159
a corpse in front of them. I mean, that would

808
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:32,239
be really hard to refute that, right. I mean, they

809
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,679
would then be able to do all sort of testing

810
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:40,360
and pull information like hair samples away. Yet I don't

811
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:45,519
know if that would be necessarily the best approach to

812
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:50,320
solve this topic. I just think talking to individuals such

813
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:56,760
as yourself, talking to witnesses, talking to scientific based individuals

814
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,360
is a better way to preserve what is occurring and

815
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:07,159
also a more humane way to really try and figure

816
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:11,320
out the topic. Meaning, if these individuals are as intelligent

817
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,599
as people have predicted them to be, whether it's a

818
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,719
sasquatch or a dog man, would it be in everyone's

819
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,920
best interest as you had presented, to try and get

820
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,400
a corpse? I mean, then if these things are processing

821
00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:32,840
knowledge like we process knowledge, that immediately makes us an enemy,

822
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:36,920
all right. And if these things are apex based, which

823
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,840
it sounds like they are, I don't know if that's

824
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,320
a very safe route to go.

825
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 2: Well, I think it definitely isn't a safe oute to

826
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,480
go for a lot of reasons. So many people think

827
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:49,280
that if you are able to bag a dog man,

828
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,599
then boom, you've already proven their existence because the rest

829
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,400
is downhill. But if you do bag one, your problems

830
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,880
have just started. So it's just not a good move

831
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,440
at all to try to even do that. It really

832
00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:06,760
isn't a bit ago you mentioned that you think the

833
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,119
dog mean or you realize that the dog me in

834
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,280
that frightened that game warden could have easily taken him out.

835
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,880
How dangerous do you think these guys actually are?

836
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:20,559
Speaker 1: I love that question as well as you and I

837
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:25,760
had mentioned. Sure, any apex predator can be extremely dangerous.

838
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,719
Yet if that was the case with all of these

839
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,159
to just predate on people, why would there be so

840
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:37,039
many individuals that are able to sit down and talk

841
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,880
with us? Right? I mean, look at a saltwater crocodile

842
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,639
that's an apex predator. There are very few people that

843
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,079
have survived saltwater crocodile attacks that are able to talk

844
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:49,760
about it. Most of them are no longer with us,

845
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,840
meaning they have been found by their friends such as, Hey,

846
00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:56,960
what if you and I had a buddy that was

847
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,639
out fishing, he told us where he was going, We

848
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,000
never hear from him again. Well, we go to try

849
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:05,639
to look for him, Hey, where is Stu. Stue's not

850
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,000
in the spot he's supposed to be. And then we

851
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:10,840
go to the area. We find his fishing gear, we

852
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,599
find the drag marks of the saltwater crocodiles that are

853
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,039
verified to be in this area. He's not ever going

854
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:22,079
to be seen again. Why because the saltwater crocodile had

855
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,440
one purpose to actually feast on him and dispose of him.

856
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,840
That is why we don't see and hear from many

857
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,920
people that have survived saltwater crocodile attacks. If they do, unfortunately,

858
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,480
they are usually named very horribly, meaning they could be

859
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:43,239
missing limbs or all kinds of other traumatic aspects. Let's

860
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,079
just be real for one second. If this dog man

861
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:50,480
had one purpose and one intention to just dispose of us,

862
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,559
there wouldn't be many of us left, right.

863
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,599
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. And I heard Matt Nap. Matt Nap, he

864
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,119
is a he's not a sasquatch investigator anymore. He's got

865
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:05,960
his hands full with other things. But he does produce

866
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,719
a really good podcast called Bigfoot Crossroads. If you haven't

867
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,199
checked it out, I really hope you will, because it's

868
00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:15,960
a good show. Of course, but he has a good point.

869
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:19,280
If sasquatch were nearly as dangerous as so many people

870
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,119
make them out to be, bystanders would be reporting seeing

871
00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:26,880
family members getting snatched up, friends being snatched up. But

872
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,440
that doesn't really happen. I mean, sure, yeah, you've got

873
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:33,880
sasquatch that do harm and kill people once in a

874
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,760
blue moon. That would appear, but it's not like most

875
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,239
of them are wired to be that way anymore than

876
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,360
dog men are wired to be that way. With dog men,

877
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,440
of course, like I've said several times, I'm convinced, you

878
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:49,239
do have dangerous ones that will do that to you.

879
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,320
They will snatch you up, and that'll be your end

880
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,760
if you come across them, because they're just wired to

881
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,480
be that way. But by and large, the population of

882
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:02,440
dog men out there, they're not wired to be that way,

883
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,679
because if they were, after all the time I've spent

884
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,519
in the woods, perfect example, I wouldn't be here after

885
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:12,719
going out without anyone else with me, without going out,

886
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,440
going out without a weapon. As many times as I

887
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,719
have walked hundreds and hundreds of miles through the big

888
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,679
woods here, I wouldn't be here. And think about how

889
00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:25,480
many Sasquad researchers meet the bushes every opportunity they get,

890
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,800
they go through dog Mee and country, and they come back.

891
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,159
So yeah, I say these things for a reason. It's

892
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:34,840
all too easy to look at how frightening these things are,

893
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,960
to look at and think, okay, well they must be

894
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,840
really dangerous and they must try to take people out

895
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,800
at every opportunity but like I said, that's just not

896
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,519
how it is. Kenny. I'm going to be a guest

897
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:50,880
on your show here soon, but wouldn't you think it's

898
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,519
going to air? I want to make sure that the

899
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:55,679
people listening, if they want to check that show out,

900
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,199
they know when to look for it.

901
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: Well, again, legendary stuff from you, my friend. I totally

902
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,599
appreciate it. And the big thing with our show is

903
00:56:05,639 --> 00:56:08,320
if we're doing it tomorrow night, I'm going to be

904
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,599
having that good old episode out airing on that Wednesday.

905
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,840
So yes, very shortly after you and I sit down

906
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,199
and I do finish up another episode that I've been

907
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,280
plugging away on. I just have had too many irons

908
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,639
in the fire at the moment. I have not had

909
00:56:25,639 --> 00:56:28,920
a chance to finish that previous video yet. As soon

910
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,920
as that's done, guess what's airing on Wednesday? Yours and hours? Man.

911
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,559
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know why you'd want such a boring

912
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:39,440
guests such as me on your podcast, but I'm looking

913
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,880
forward to coming on it. Nonetheless, I think it's going

914
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:42,840
to be a really good time.

915
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:47,199
Speaker 1: No, it's going to be an excellent time. And calling

916
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:52,239
yourself boring is like calling me boring and not aesthetic based.

917
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,000
It kind of doesn't fit the pie, right.

918
00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:57,679
Speaker 2: No, I see what you're saying, and thanks for the

919
00:56:57,679 --> 00:57:00,840
good words. I appreciate it. Well. Like I said, I'm

920
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,280
looking forward to it and I'll be there with bells on.

921
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:06,199
Well before we get out of here, do you have

922
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:07,960
any clothes and comments who want to put out there

923
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:08,800
for us?

924
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: Well, first off, I just wanted to thank you for

925
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,480
your time and your knowledge and what you've done for

926
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,440
what we've talked about in general and the dog man

927
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,679
community as well. Without people such as yourself, there wouldn't

928
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:25,320
be people such as me that took interest and found

929
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,239
interest into this. It's a big kudos to you, my friend,

930
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:34,159
and to anybody out there that does enjoy different podcasts

931
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:38,559
and different information. I cover a lot of different things

932
00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:42,599
over on Midnight Leacanthropy under the tree of my Brand.

933
00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:45,960
I have a podcast that is called Camp Nightmare Fuel

934
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,079
where I dive into true crime, whether it could be

935
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:55,440
something involving per Se, Timothy Treadwell that had a terrible

936
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:59,840
end with grizzly bears, or any sort of anything that

937
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:04,039
falls into the term as nightmare Fuel. I also do

938
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:08,519
have another podcast called ghost Mile, which is just a

939
00:58:08,679 --> 00:58:13,440
loose based term of ghost. We cover abandoned history and

940
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:16,639
abandoned towns, which sure some of them do have some

941
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,119
paranormal based but I'm just using the term ghost towns

942
00:58:20,199 --> 00:58:24,039
because they are no longer kicking around. In one of

943
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:29,079
the recent episodes, we covered Centralia in Pennsylvania, where it's

944
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:31,079
believed that this town is going to be on fire

945
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:33,760
for another two hundred years and it is now a

946
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,800
ghost town. And then I do have another podcast called

947
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,159
wen Crow Speak where on all of these I bring

948
00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:44,000
in all of my science members as well, and on

949
00:58:44,039 --> 00:58:48,360
this particular podcast we try to look into things such

950
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:53,760
as slender Man and Momo, not the actual Missouri monster

951
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Momo that made appearances on places they should have on YouTube,

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where it did tie back to an individual in Japan

953
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that was a very creative based artist, siren Head. We

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try and put closure to that as why a creepy

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pasta is a creepy pasta. It's just information out there

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that is very intriguing and could be found to be

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appealing to certain individuals. Yet we try to bring clarity

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to that. If people have no interest in any of that,

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totally awesome, appreciate it. I have two podcasts that are

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completely separate from all of that. One of my newest

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ones is called The Silence after Rome, where we dive

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into everything that can be verified throughout history. My first

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episode that will be airing pretty shortly on that podcast

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is about Alexander the Great and some of the interactions

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he had with Caesar. I will be covering Attila the Hunt.

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I will be covering Cleopatra, Leonidas, all kinds of other

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amazing things. And then my final podcast is Hockey Nice

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Stories because I actually used to play semi pro hockey

969
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myself and was a hockey goalie, and being a nerd,

970
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I watched so much hockey and I'm a huge Boston

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Bruins fan. So yes, those are things that I will

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be working on.

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Speaker 2: Man, Holy cal you sure do you stay busy, don't you? Well?

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Speaker 1: If I'm ever gonna be a legends such as yourself,

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there is a lot of great information out there, and

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I find so many different things fascinating and it only

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makes sense to do things you enjoy and pursue things

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that keep you happy in life. And all the things

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I named above are things that I find enjoyable.

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Speaker 2: Oh, nothing wrong with that, as long as you can

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say that, then you're definitely doing something right. If an

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eyewitness has had a dog mean account, it wants to

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contact you to share an experience with you, Kenny, what's

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the best way for them to do that?

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Speaker 1: Again? Thank you. There are a couple ways they could

986
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hit me up on my YouTube page, which is Lord

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Starfax l O R d E S t A R

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f o X, which is directly connected to me. I

989
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am on Spotify as well. I am also on Rumble.

990
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I am on Facebook, which you can send me a

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direct message through Facebook Messenger even if you don't have Facebook.

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A lot of people don't realize you don't have to

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have Facebook to have Facebook Messenger, and you can find

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me on there under Kenny Thibodeau, which is k E

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N N Y. And then yes, I am a frenchie,

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so my last name is Thibodeaux, which is t h

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I B O D E a U. I'm on Instagram,

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I'm on TikTok, so pretty much any sort of platform,

999
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even Twitter or x I guess as it is called

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these days. You can hit me up on any of

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those and I will definitely respond back to you as

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soon as possible. The quickest way and most active based

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ways would be through my YouTube or through Facebook Messenger.

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Speaker 2: Well, that makes it really easy. And two things for

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everyone listening very important here, so that you know, there's

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another YouTube channel that goes by the name Midnight Like

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anthrop that if you do a search, just do a

1008
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search for Midnight Like Anthropy, you're probably gonna wind up

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landing on that YouTube channel, which that's not Kenny's channel.

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I'm going to post a link to his show in

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the description for tonight's show. I'm going to post a

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01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,039
link to the correct Midnight Like Caanthropy podcast in the

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description for tonight's show. So if you want to check

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out his podcasts, which I hope you do, all the

1015
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links for his podcasts, his contact info, everything's going to

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be in the description, so that'll make it really easy

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for you to do that. But having said all that,

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Kenny aka Lord Star Fox, want to be totally correct here.

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I can't thank you enough for coming on to share

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all this information with us. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Again, thank you so much for your time, Vic and

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yes to the audience. Apparently again someone has tried to

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steal my swagger, which is why I've had to change

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my name so many different times here on YouTube, but

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I do appreciate Vic being able to clarify where you

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can get a hold of me.

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Speaker 2: Glad to do it. I want to see you get ahead.

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Well I haven't said all that. Thanks again so much

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for your time, Kennean. Hope you have a great night.