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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Bloon Sider. Dick Gabrielle with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Monday edition of our program, Coming to You

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Tape. We recorded from the garage, as we

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<v Speaker 1>usually do, and I bring that up because that might

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<v Speaker 1>not be the case later in the week. I have

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry duty. So if I am summoned, it'll be the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the Big Boon Sider. But we will be

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<v Speaker 1>with you tonight and tomorrow night here from the garage.

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball season is over for the Wildcats. You know that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. By now it's Kentucky and a painful, painful

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<v Speaker 1>loss fell to West Virginia, my dad's alma mater last night,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen to twelve, in one of the wildest and when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to what was on the line and how

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<v Speaker 1>they lost, it the most painful loss that I can remember,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe ever in at least recent UK baseball history. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't around. Well, I was around, but I wasn't there

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<v Speaker 1>when Keith Madison's best team, which was in nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>was about three innings maybe from the College World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is back before they took sixty four teams.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so much harder to get into the world series,

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<v Speaker 1>and he lost. His team lost to Stanford and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Messina had him down and again a couple of innings away,

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<v Speaker 1>then lost, and then the next day they ran out

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<v Speaker 1>of pitching. So that was painful. I remember reading about

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<v Speaker 1>it back in nineteen eighty eight. There wasn't any radio

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<v Speaker 1>or TV on it. But this one was worse to

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<v Speaker 1>me because the Cats had it against West Virginia, a

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<v Speaker 1>team they should have beaten in the opening round, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they lose. They lose that one by a run,

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<v Speaker 1>then they lose again by a run to West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was frankly because of errors. And yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>know West Virginia made a bunch of errors as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter if you're making errors, you're blowing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Wildcats, of course, in Game one, made an error.

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Lawrence made an error that opened the gates for

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginia and the Wildcats lose at four to three.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasted a great pitching performance by Ben Cleaver, the Slim Reaper.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave up three runs, only one was earned, and

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<v Speaker 1>then gave up an unearned run. When Simon Gregorson was

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<v Speaker 1>on the mount, he gave up one hit, one unearned

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<v Speaker 1>run and lost to West Virginia four to three. So

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<v Speaker 1>now you got to battle back, and they did. They

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<v Speaker 1>come back. They beat USC Upstate, which was a good team,

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<v Speaker 1>not a great team. And then they got to play Clemson,

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<v Speaker 1>which had lost to West Virginia, which came from behind

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<v Speaker 1>and beat Clemson. So now the Wildcats have got to

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<v Speaker 1>play the Tigers on their home field, and they destroyed Clemson,

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<v Speaker 1>had a six run fourth inning and just had a

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<v Speaker 1>big time, had what thirteen base hits, good pitching by

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Harris, six innings, three runs, and the bullpen got

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<v Speaker 1>it done havn Byers, Nile Ad cock Leydon Harris. So

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<v Speaker 1>now that sets him up to play West Virginia again,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what happened. Cats jumped out to a

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<v Speaker 1>four to one lead, made it five to one, made

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<v Speaker 1>it six one, then gave up six runs in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth inning. Another error cost him Tyler Bell. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not picking on these two guys, Luke Lawrence and Tyler Bell,

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<v Speaker 1>because let's face it, Without those guys both offense and defense,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's not here. Kentucky's not in the postseason. But they

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<v Speaker 1>made errors on routine plays at the worst possible time.

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<v Speaker 1>Still Kentucky bounced back after giving up the lead and

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<v Speaker 1>watching West Virginia tie it at seven to seven, and

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<v Speaker 1>did what good teams do immediately answered, got two runs

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifth, got three more in the sixth, and

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<v Speaker 1>another in the eighth. Right, so now they're up twelve

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<v Speaker 1>to seven. And I'll be honest with you, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>how deeply Kentucky had gone into his bullpen, which had

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<v Speaker 1>been somewhat of an issue all year, up and down,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, man, I don't know if they can

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<v Speaker 1>hold this lead. Even though West Virginia made five errors,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Kentucky can hold this lead. And

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<v Speaker 1>it couldn't. Cats just kept either walking people or hitting people.

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<v Speaker 1>And they walked seven, gave up runs with two outs,

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<v Speaker 1>and they lose another one run game. Lost a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>one run games this year. But I've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest when I got to thinking about it, when I

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<v Speaker 1>calmed down, I said to myself, at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, knowing or not knowing what I knew about

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<v Speaker 1>this team, which is to say, I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to be like, I didn't know who

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<v Speaker 1>was going to play what. To the coaches, they thought

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<v Speaker 1>they had to figure out figured out in the fall

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<v Speaker 1>and preseason. They were changing the lineups, they were changing

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<v Speaker 1>position players, some of them mostly in the outfield, but

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<v Speaker 1>some at first base. They dealt with injuries to keep players.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point they were down to their fifth third basement.

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<v Speaker 1>They had James McCoy playing third base, which he'd never played,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course McCoy spent a lot of time this

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<v Speaker 1>year at first base, which he had never played. So

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<v Speaker 1>they just kept juggling and tweaking and trying to fix thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Lost their starting center fielder early in the year. They

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<v Speaker 1>lost key relievers this year, and remember last year they

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<v Speaker 1>were almost completely healthy going into postseason, same the year before.

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<v Speaker 1>Not making excuses. You got to deal with it. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>deals with injuries. But those were some of the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>that they had. And after the game, Nick Minjeone, talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the media said, yeah, this is this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bother him for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be thinking about this game in these moments for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, because you know, when you have a

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<v Speaker 2>team down and you gotta you gotta put him away.

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<v Speaker 3>Proud of our.

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<v Speaker 2>Team for the their ability to add runs. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously we we got down and then we responded and

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<v Speaker 2>we kept adding to the lead. And just man, this team,

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<v Speaker 2>very few people even gave his team a chance, so

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<v Speaker 2>to be in this position, the leadership that we got

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<v Speaker 2>from our seniors was absolutely incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>It was interesting. He never directly commented on the collapse

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<v Speaker 1>of the bullpen, because every time it seemed like his

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts took him to that, he fell back on how

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<v Speaker 1>proud he was of the team, how proud he was

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<v Speaker 1>of the senior class, of what this team went through

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<v Speaker 1>just to get here. Think about this now, with all

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<v Speaker 1>the one run laws this year, and with all the

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<v Speaker 1>mysteries surrounding this team that lost almost every starting player,

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<v Speaker 1>including a reliever and starting pitcher, from last year's World

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<v Speaker 1>Series team, they had one regular back. McCoy was a

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<v Speaker 1>part time regular, if there is such a thing in

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<v Speaker 1>right field. Devin Burks was the only position player back

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<v Speaker 1>from last year. And again, including the rotation, the top

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<v Speaker 1>relievers and all, and still they were one went away

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<v Speaker 1>from playing for a shot at the Soupers again for

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<v Speaker 1>the third consecutive year. I didn't see that coming, did you.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Every once in a while you'd see potential when they

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<v Speaker 1>swept Oklahoma, when they went to Knoxville and beat Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>Ole Miss has planned for a super slot tonight against

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<v Speaker 1>Murray State. Kentucky beat Ole Miss in one game, lost

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of one run games to the Rebels, so

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<v Speaker 1>you saw the potential there. They just couldn't quite nail

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<v Speaker 1>it down during the regular season and last night against

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginia. But again, as Minjiones said, very few people

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<v Speaker 1>gave this Kentucky team a shot at doing anything this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I told him, there's not a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 2>gave them a chance a chance. So when I look

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<v Speaker 2>back and I think about what this team has done,

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of time, effort, energy, and the buy in

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<v Speaker 2>that they just literally just bought into everything we were doing,

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<v Speaker 2>it was truly remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>Truly remarkable. And still, by the way of those comments

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<v Speaker 1>courtesy of on three dot com, still Kentucky should have

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<v Speaker 1>won the game, and if West Virginia had lost, the

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<v Speaker 1>Mountaineers would have said we should have won the game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the way it went. But you got to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage. And Kentucky had so many opportunities to win

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<v Speaker 1>that one, and really opportunities to get through this regional

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<v Speaker 1>without a loss. But just missed it. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>something when I think back on this season, I will

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<v Speaker 1>think about all those one run games, midweek games, SEC games,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's another tough year for the league. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be quite as formidable as it was

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<v Speaker 1>last year when half the field, well maybe it will

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<v Speaker 1>be half the World Series field was SEC teams. But

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<v Speaker 1>you got all missed playing as I said tonight for

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<v Speaker 1>with Murray State in Oxford for a shot at hosting

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<v Speaker 1>a super Wake Forest at Tennessee tonight. Little Rock Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>Little Rock at LSU tonight, beat LSU last night. How

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<v Speaker 1>about that in the box and forced another game at

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<v Speaker 1>alex Box Stadium tonight. Oklahoma SEC team is at North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>a team Kentucky swept, but then not Kentucky out of

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC tournament. But it's an incredible year so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia done, Mississippi State done, Vanderbilt the overall number seed,

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<v Speaker 1>number one seed done, beaten by Right State, Texas done,

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<v Speaker 1>beaten by UT San Antonio. It's phenomenal. Now Auburn is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna host the super or move to the Supers. Arkansas

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<v Speaker 1>moves to the Supers. Auburn's a team to beat Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>early in this year. Arkansas did not play Kentucky the

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<v Speaker 1>typical strong year in the SEC, but I think we'll

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<v Speaker 1>agree Wildcats should still be alive. Coming up at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the hour, we're gonna talk with Jeff Picoro

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<v Speaker 1>of the SEC Radio Network. We'll talk baseball, football, basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>Our number two Derek Terry of Betcat Central, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>has covered Kentucky baseball year long, and our New York

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<v Speaker 1>City Bureau chief Mike Sephoznik. I'm going to check in

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike on two fronts, number one to take the

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<v Speaker 1>pulse of New York Knicks fans, and I think I

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<v Speaker 1>already know the answer how they're treating Karl Anthony Towns.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember now it's New York. But also Mike is about

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<v Speaker 1>as wild eye a Kentucky fan as you'll ever want

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<v Speaker 1>to meet. That's all I had on the Big Boon

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<v Speaker 1>Sider here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Boon Sider. Coming up at the bottom of the hour,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff picorol the UK Sports Network, and coming up tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>night we'll talk to Darryl Bird. It's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a tradition the SEC people get together in Destin, Florida

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<v Speaker 1>and meet and talk and all that. And Darryl is

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the only local person, the only person on

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<v Speaker 1>the UK beat who goes down to Florida covers the meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>Takes a little time, he and his wife, but he

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<v Speaker 1>gets a chance to sit down with Mark Pope and

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Barnhart. The off times, would sit down with whoever

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<v Speaker 1>was Kentucky said football coach at the time. Obviously Mark

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<v Speaker 1>stoops right now, but now he waits until he gets

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<v Speaker 1>back and sits down. Might have talked to him before

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<v Speaker 1>the meetings, but they sit down and talk with each

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<v Speaker 1>other with an eye on the Cat's Balls pre season

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<v Speaker 1>football yearbook coming up, and you've heard us talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Gershan about that. So we'll have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Daryl about that tomorrow night and catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with him on what's been discussed. I know looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the website that at the Cats Ball's website that he

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night. Speaking of Jefpiicorel a long time with the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Reds the network and there's a really bittersweet story

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<v Speaker 1>about the Reds. Elie Della Cruz had a home run

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<v Speaker 1>twelve on the year for Elie Dela Cruz. And while

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking tragedy, John Brincus remember him Sports Science, Remember

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<v Speaker 1>and he said after he did that, he spiraled into

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Science was such a great feature, and as the

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<v Speaker 1>the laws of gravity. The series won six Emmy Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>with Kenny McPeak and his horse Mystic Dan and won

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<v Speaker 1>So congrats to Kenny, who says Sovereignty will win the Belmont.

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<v Speaker 1>Friday morning, journalism will be entered. That's final. Now. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy worked his horse, breezed him yesterday. Breezing means train

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<v Speaker 1>like he's racing, you know, going all out. And in

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<v Speaker 1>fact the jockey for journalism when Berto Rispoli was actually

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<v Speaker 1>course Journalism finished second. But in case you're interested, he

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<v Speaker 1>went a half mile in forty seven and five. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Those are really healthy times. So Journalism appears to be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go after winning the Preakness, and even though

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<v Speaker 1>twenty oh five. Sovereignty did work a half mile, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's ready to go. Good to go. Bill Mott's Colt

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<v Speaker 1>skip the Preakness, as you know, but recorded his third

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<v Speaker 1>main track at sarah Tooga. It's so weird picturing the

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<v Speaker 1>Belmont at sarah Toga, but it's a good track. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>hooking each other again. Also training Sunday morning, a cult

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<v Speaker 1>named Crudo. He's the son of Justify, a Triple Crown winner,

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<v Speaker 1>this if you're a Madden fan, but on the cover

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<v Speaker 1>of Madden NFL twenty six, EA Sports announced earlier today

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<v Speaker 1>and released an image Saquon Barkley and it's the photo

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<v Speaker 1>from when he leaped over a player earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably the greatest moment regular season for the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles when he did that. There had to be a

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<v Speaker 1>of Madden. And if you believe in the Jinks, bet

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<v Speaker 1>against the Eagles. I'm not going to bet against Saquon Barkley.

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<v Speaker 1>Not me. Jeff Pacarl's next year on six thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the Big Moon side of joining us

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<v Speaker 1>now in our celebrity online Mister Jeff Picayl, color analyst

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<v Speaker 1>here in election and much to discuss right now though, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>as we move into the summer months, which can be

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<v Speaker 1>challenging for local TV sports. But and you know you

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<v Speaker 1>I think, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then, you know, summertime, it seems like is getting

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<v Speaker 1>for the upcoming football season and stuff like that, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, like Robin asked the other day, aren't

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<v Speaker 5>they out of school? Why are they still playing baseball? Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>they are the only guys on campus and the softball

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, but you track.

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<v Speaker 1>Athletes scattered out there, but they're not on campus.

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<v Speaker 5>Right yeah. So yeah, it's getting shorter and short as

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<v Speaker 1>So you know. Part of this too, though, is we

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean you look at that, they've got basically

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<v Speaker 5>end of July practicing. You know, it's kind of weird

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<v Speaker 1>Can I assume that your job at Clayburne was not glamorous,

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<v Speaker 1>that you might have been working at one end of

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<v Speaker 1>Lots and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, and you had to get all the thistle out,

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<v Speaker 5>the weed mile Frank hare Cam Jacob to me, David, Tom, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I wonder if Folds were doing that now. I

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we sneak them a little work now and then,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was, you know, it was ridiculous. Anyway. We

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<v Speaker 1>could go on all night about that. But much to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss various sports. Let us start with baseball. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've tried to qualify that game last night, Jet,

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<v Speaker 1>but that had to be the weirdest, uh oddest, saddest

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there when Keith Madison's best team in eighty

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<v Speaker 1>there were three innings from the world's He's back when

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<v Speaker 1>for that one man.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think I think What makes this hurt the

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<v Speaker 5>worst dick is the fact that you know, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not blaming one player, you can't do that because this

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<v Speaker 5>was a full team breakdown. But you know, and Tyler

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<v Speaker 5>Bell was playing on a on a hurt knee. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>he got drilled right in the kneecap, missed the game before.

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<v Speaker 5>But he comes back, he's he's your best player.

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<v Speaker 1>Face that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the guy is unbelievable. He makes really two

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<v Speaker 5>areas only gave him one, but he makes two errors

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<v Speaker 5>and if either of those, which one was a routine

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<v Speaker 5>double play, you're at the inning. He doesn't get it.

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<v Speaker 5>They score five runs after his after his error, he

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<v Speaker 5>just bobbled the ball coming up the transfer to try to,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, flick it over to second base. And they

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<v Speaker 5>score five runs, you know, And then how many the

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<v Speaker 5>thing I didn't look at yet, and you and Dougie

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<v Speaker 5>and Darren I'm sure have done this, but how many

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<v Speaker 5>who runs that they score with two outs? There had

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the most frustrating.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they just couldn't get that third out. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they hit two different innings.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is microcosmic of the entire season. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what a dozen one run losses? You know they may

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<v Speaker 1>they could play another fifty years and that not happened.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, here's the thing too, And I've said

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<v Speaker 5>this about football, so and I'll say it about baseball.

424
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<v Speaker 5>There's two positions, one in football and one in baseball

425
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<v Speaker 5>that you just simply can't find enough of these. And

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<v Speaker 5>football it's offensive defensive line. You just can't find six

427
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<v Speaker 5>foot six, three hundred and fifteen pound guys growing on trees.

428
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<v Speaker 5>Baseball you can never have enough arms. And I would

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<v Speaker 5>spend every dollar I had on nil whatever they have

430
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<v Speaker 5>and try to get pittried, because all you need was

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<v Speaker 5>one guy to step up yesterday, just one to get

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<v Speaker 5>you to today. And I thought, I hope they played

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<v Speaker 5>Clemson on Saturday because I thought they could beat West

434
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<v Speaker 5>Virginia twice, and you know, because I thought, you know,

435
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<v Speaker 5>they beat Clemson pretty east handily and really should have

436
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<v Speaker 5>beat West Virginia the first game and the second game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and again, an intern an in turn, an error

438
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>on a routine play opens the door. But you know,

439
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<v Speaker 1>it takes all phases. And this has been a decent

440
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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky defensive team. I think I told you uh, not

441
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<v Speaker 1>as good as some in the past. But yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>you get all three phases like you did in that

443
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<v Speaker 1>blowout of Clemson and then you make it look easy. Yeah,

444
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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't see that coming either, blowing out Clemson

445
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<v Speaker 1>and West Virginia, in all fairness, did win the Big twelve,

446
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<v Speaker 1>but I thought Kentucky was better, but not not when

447
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<v Speaker 1>it came to when West Virginia needed to shut things down.

448
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<v Speaker 1>They had enough arms to do that because one of

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<v Speaker 1>my concerns, Jeff, was that this Kentucky team might flatten

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<v Speaker 1>out the way it did in the SEC two. That

451
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<v Speaker 1>was the most puzzling game to me of the year,

452
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<v Speaker 1>you know, going to sleep against Oklahoma and they were

453
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<v Speaker 1>destroying the ball down in Clemson. I was pleasantly surprised

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<v Speaker 1>by that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well here's the bottom line to this, and I don't

456
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<v Speaker 5>know what the answer is, but really, if you take

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<v Speaker 5>the last what was it eight games they played, they're

458
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<v Speaker 5>one and seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after they sweep Oklahoma, Yeah, wellhich wasn't long after

461
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.359
<v Speaker 1>they went down and could have swept Tennessee here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I thought the Vanderbilt series, you know, again,

463
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.359
<v Speaker 5>a game they are a series. They really could have

464
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<v Speaker 5>won all three games, and instead they lose all three

465
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<v Speaker 5>and I think you're just like, well, we're done. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think that maybe some of those guys who were

467
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<v Speaker 5>a little surprised you weren't you always say that thirteen wins.

468
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<v Speaker 5>I hear you guys talk all the time and your

469
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<v Speaker 5>your chain gang guys at thirteen wins is the uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know kind of that probably the floor magic number. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>even though they're thirteen and seventeen. And I'm one that

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<v Speaker 5>says I don't think you should reward a team for

473
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<v Speaker 5>being under five hundred to get into postseason. But that's

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<v Speaker 5>just me. But you know, I just thought that was

475
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<v Speaker 5>a tough way to end the season, and especially one

476
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<v Speaker 5>where you brought in thirty new guys and now how

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<v Speaker 5>many of those guys are going to stay next year?

478
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<v Speaker 5>You know, That's that's the big problem in baseball, there's

479
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<v Speaker 5>such a turnover.

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<v Speaker 1>But some of the best players on this team are freshmen,

481
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<v Speaker 1>that's the good news, or sophomores like Ben Cleever. So

482
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<v Speaker 1>he's Jeff Coorrol. He's a sports director WTVQ and color

483
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<v Speaker 1>analysts on the UK Football Network. We will shift to

484
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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky football on the other side of the break here

485
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<v Speaker 1>on six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking to Jefficorrel

486
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<v Speaker 1>of WTVQ and the UK Sports Network, and before long

487
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll be calling. I assume we'll get the contracts in

488
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<v Speaker 1>the mail. Jeff, you never know Kentucky football coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned earlier how you would spend whatever you could

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00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>to bring in linemen. Well, Mark Stoops did that. I

491
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<v Speaker 1>don't know the particulars you might of what they're spending,

492
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<v Speaker 1>but O line, as we all know, has been a

493
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<v Speaker 1>huge issue. We're not going to beat that dog anymore.

494
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<v Speaker 1>But it is going to be interesting. You talked about,

495
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<v Speaker 1>you know, guys getting to know each other, and here

496
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<v Speaker 1>in the offseason, receivers and quarterbacks and running backs to

497
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a point, can't go out and throw the ball, get

498
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>to know each other. Yeah, what do linemen do at

499
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<v Speaker 1>this time of year?

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<v Speaker 5>This is the time when they're really lifting weights and

501
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:36.279
<v Speaker 5>just getting bigger and stronger, chause they're going to lose

502
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 5>ten to fifteen pounds as the season goes on from

503
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 5>wear and tear and beating down. You can't lift as

504
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 5>much weights and stuff. But there's really not a whole

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<v Speaker 5>lot you can do. Look, I always talk about offense

506
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<v Speaker 5>the blind as being like a dance. You know, everybody

507
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.359
<v Speaker 5>has to take the right steps and the only way

508
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<v Speaker 5>to do and you can't do it with four guys.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't do it with three. It has to be

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<v Speaker 5>all five, and a lot of times it has to

511
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<v Speaker 5>be six because the tight end is so integral. Now

512
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<v Speaker 5>in Kentucky's offense right blocking scheme, I should say not passing,

513
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:11.359
<v Speaker 5>let me how you make that straight. But you know

514
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<v Speaker 5>they really have it. They have to all five beat

515
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<v Speaker 5>together and the only time you can do that is practice,

516
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 5>and so it's hard for them in the off season

517
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<v Speaker 5>to get the five guys or six guys together and

518
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<v Speaker 5>just do steps. So they don't really do that. But that,

519
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 5>to me is the biggest thing, is repetition because it

520
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:34.200
<v Speaker 5>has to be second nature to these guys. And now

521
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<v Speaker 5>as fast as the defensive linemen have become with the size,

522
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<v Speaker 5>if you take one bad step, if you take a

523
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 5>drop step instead of a jab step, or you take

524
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:47.319
<v Speaker 5>a crossover step, your beat and you know, these guys

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00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 5>have to learn that, and some of them have to

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<v Speaker 5>learn it with starting with your right foot. Anna left

527
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 5>the guys that flip both sides, So it just takes time.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a wide receiver back in the day, and

529
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<v Speaker 1>you've got a wide receiver room now with some guys

530
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:04.599
<v Speaker 1>who came back, but also some new faces, you know,

531
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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know what was going on in terms

532
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 1>of the dynamics over the last couple of three years

533
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 1>with Dane Keene Barrian Brown. They were clearly clearly the

534
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>best players and made some big plays, they really did,

535
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>but just something just seemed off. I don't know what

536
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it was. What do you expect, what do you anticipate

537
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<v Speaker 1>this year?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think it's additioned by subtraction. To tell you

539
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:33.079
<v Speaker 5>the truth, I think that those two guys were and

540
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<v Speaker 5>I have to say, let me try to put this

541
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<v Speaker 5>in the best tone I can. They were really good players.

542
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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how great the teammates they were. How

543
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 5>that you know, you have to be cocky, you have

544
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:51.640
<v Speaker 5>to be self assured. You know, you're like a fighter

545
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 5>pilot out there when you're a quarterback and you're a

546
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 5>wide receiver, right, you got to want the ball and

547
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 5>but you also have to do other things. And you

548
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.720
<v Speaker 5>also don't out in the huddle, and you also don't

549
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:06.039
<v Speaker 5>yell and scream at your coach and things like that.

550
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<v Speaker 5>I really think that this team is better now they've

551
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.240
<v Speaker 5>got they've got some guys and that I think will

552
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 5>really help. And I did want to correct you on

553
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<v Speaker 5>one thing. I wasn't a wide receiver, Dick.

554
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<v Speaker 1>I was a downfield anfield blocker. That's right. I'm sorry,

555
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 1>coach wherever you are, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes. But and I do want to say this. I

557
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<v Speaker 5>really think that I don't think you're going to see

558
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<v Speaker 5>any problems with the receiving room.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do.

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<v Speaker 5>I like. I like the dynamics they have there. You've

561
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<v Speaker 5>got a quarterback with Annon for an arm. The big

562
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 5>difference is going to be to make blackform. And let

563
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<v Speaker 5>me put it bluntly to you. This you you said

564
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<v Speaker 5>about an offensive lineman, a good a just a good,

565
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 5>not a great. A good offensive lineman these days is

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<v Speaker 5>going to cost you about two hundred to two hundred

567
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.319
<v Speaker 5>and fifty thousand dollars. Just how about that?

568
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe it, Lowick.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't fathom that as a college kid. It just

570
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.960
<v Speaker 5>doesn't make sense to me. And I understand the people

571
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<v Speaker 5>who said, you know, we're still wearing tim Couch jerseys

572
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 5>and they're still buying Tim Couch jersey and he didn't

573
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<v Speaker 5>get a penny for that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I.

575
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<v Speaker 5>Understand that, I do. But they've opened this and we

576
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.359
<v Speaker 5>could talk at nauseing about this. I just don't know

577
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.960
<v Speaker 5>where the end's going to be because this is in

578
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.839
<v Speaker 5>a professional situation here. Where are they going to get

579
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 5>the money? I mean, you brought in five guys that

580
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<v Speaker 5>cost you know, on that offensive line, that cost you

581
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<v Speaker 5>well over a million dollars just for the offensive lineman. So,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I just don't know, and it's just amazing.

583
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<v Speaker 5>We didn't have anything. You know this, you didn't have

584
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<v Speaker 5>anything when you were in school. We worked on the side.

585
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<v Speaker 5>We got twenty bucks, you know, Derek Graansey. Then we're

586
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<v Speaker 5>upset because they only got fifteen. We got twenty, but.

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<v Speaker 4>That was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you get.

589
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

590
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<v Speaker 5>But now to walk around, why why did.

591
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<v Speaker 1>You get the works? Why did you get twenty in

592
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<v Speaker 1>Rambley at fifteen? Did they drop it?

593
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<v Speaker 5>I think no? I think it was a you know,

594
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<v Speaker 5>what do you call it? A cost of living increase?

595
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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Wow? No kidding?

596
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well yeah, but.

597
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 5>And so those have there going. Why did you get

598
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<v Speaker 5>twenty bucks? The r our dining hall was in the

599
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.400
<v Speaker 5>building wasn't open on the weekend, so we had to

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<v Speaker 5>eat on our own, right, and some kids don't have

601
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<v Speaker 5>any money, So the university was allowed to give back

602
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<v Speaker 5>then a small stipend to eat on the weekends, and

603
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 5>it was fifteen twenty dollars. So that's what we got,

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<v Speaker 5>which went.

605
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>A longer way back then, but still it was Oh yeah,

606
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>goes to you guys. You guys need you guys needed

607
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<v Speaker 1>more fuel than the average man. A few minutes left

608
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<v Speaker 1>with Jeffercorrel. We spent and I interviewed your buddy Kenny

609
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 1>McPeak last last week. I know you all were hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out at a concert not not long ago, but Mystic

611
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<v Speaker 1>Dan wins on Saturday, the Kentucky Derby winner Kenny McPeek.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff as a, I knows your buddy. You guys have

613
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>been from bud since high school. But in terms of

614
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>what he does for the sport, obviously we know horses

615
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<v Speaker 1>can't talk, and guys like Kenny, who who are good

616
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<v Speaker 1>at it, really advances through ABD racing, which you love

617
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<v Speaker 1>as much as I do.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he really has and I think that you know,

619
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<v Speaker 5>for those that don't know. Horse Racing now is an

620
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 5>app that you can get on your phone. It's free,

621
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<v Speaker 5>which is amazing. It does have ads, but it's free.

622
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<v Speaker 5>And that's something that he thought of.

623
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<v Speaker 4>He wanted.

624
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<v Speaker 5>You know, he was a guy that years and years

625
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 5>and years ago, was let's open up our signal to everybody.

626
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<v Speaker 5>You know, and you know, I know understand that racing

627
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<v Speaker 5>was afraid of gambling and all that kind of stuff

628
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<v Speaker 5>on the side, but you know, why not open it up?

629
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<v Speaker 5>And now they finally have. But that's beside the point.

630
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<v Speaker 5>He's a Hall of Famer now from what he's done

631
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<v Speaker 5>wi him and Derby and the Oaks. He's won everything

632
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 5>except the He's won the Prietness, he's won the Belmont,

633
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 5>he's won Bader's Cards. Yeah, he's just never won the

634
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.840
<v Speaker 5>Breeders' Cup, uh Classic, the Classic. But he's won the

635
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 5>Distaff and he'll be in the Hall of Fame. That's amazing.

636
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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, he's he's done great. And Mystic Van the

637
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.440
<v Speaker 5>first Derby winner to come back to Churchill and Winter

638
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<v Speaker 5>Race since Silver Charms. How about that?

639
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.079
<v Speaker 1>I did not know that. I know he won what

640
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 1>was it Saturday Friday?

641
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 5>Yea, he won the Blak Friday, he won the Blame,

642
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 5>which is yeah, that's called Stephen Yeah, the Stephen Foster

643
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 5>Undercard they call it. For the weekend. I'm sorry, it

644
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 5>was Saturday. Saturday he won the Flame. You know, it's

645
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 5>a nice race. It's a it's a graded race. It

646
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 5>was a really nice deal. He wasn't the favorite post

647
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 5>time was post time, finished third. But he did the

648
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.480
<v Speaker 5>same thing he did in the Derby Brian Hernandez nos

649
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.039
<v Speaker 5>his horse and took the turn and really kind of

650
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 5>cut the corner and just ran away from everybody. So

651
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 5>he looks to be back. And you know, now they're

652
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.159
<v Speaker 5>hoping that Torpedo Anna can get back on track as

653
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 5>well in her next race up in New York.

654
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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I can't recommend enough the series you know

655
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 1>on Netflix about Racing to the Crown. I mean, you

656
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:04.079
<v Speaker 1>talk about an inside look, but also as people who

657
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>work in TV, you know what I think about someone

658
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>who's done a few documentaries of my day? How many cameras,

659
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.280
<v Speaker 1>how many people, how much behind did they spend? And

660
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.599
<v Speaker 1>it's brilliant And and Kenny's run center, isn't he Yeah?

661
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 5>You know he did a Yeah, he just lightning in

662
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 5>a bottle for him too, because since that series and

663
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 5>since his horse, his horse is when the Oaks and

664
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.360
<v Speaker 5>the Derby, his business is now better than it's ever been.

665
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 5>He's opened a new string up in New York, so

666
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:37.079
<v Speaker 5>he has a ton of horses up there with Jimmy Jerkins,

667
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 5>of course, his dad one of the all time great trainers,

668
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:44.360
<v Speaker 5>Allen Jerson being second Pario twice. Jimmy's running that the

669
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 5>string of horses up in New York for Kenny. So

670
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Speaker 5>he's got him in Florida at at his farm down

671
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 5>there is where all the babies go. That's where they

672
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 5>get broke and everything he bought. He bought paddle with

673
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.880
<v Speaker 5>stables down there, and it's a beautiful facility. Then he's

674
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 5>got him in New Orleans, he's got him in Oaklawn,

675
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 5>He's not him in Kentucky. He's got him at Churchill

676
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 5>and at his farm at Magdalena. And then he's got

677
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:09.559
<v Speaker 5>the big string up in New York. So he has

678
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:13.519
<v Speaker 5>literally hundreds of horses now in training. And you know,

679
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 5>it couldn't happen to a better guy, and.

680
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<v Speaker 1>Wishing well, yeah, and we're going to make our annual pilgrimage.

681
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 1>My brother and my friends and I are going to

682
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 1>go up there this August as we have the last

683
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:26.199
<v Speaker 1>three or four years, and last time up there we

684
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>got a chance to see therpeda Ana out on the track.

685
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Kenny unfortunately was ill that day, so we didn't get

686
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a chance to talk to him, but she is a

687
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>true superstar and she is in great hands as we know.

688
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 1>He is Jeff Picarel of WTVQ. Jeff Picarel on Twitter

689
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>or x Very simple and watch morehum on thirty six.

690
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Listen for him on the UK radio notework. Thank you, sir.

691
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<v Speaker 1>Thanks ed up next our number two with Batcat Central's

692
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:58.159
<v Speaker 1>Derek Terry and our New York City Bureau Chief Mike Sephazni.

693
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<v Speaker 1>That's next on six thirty Like Bag.

694
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<v Speaker 6>Take Back, Welcome back to.

695
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:48.599
<v Speaker 1>The Big Moonsider joining us down our celebrity hotline is

696
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a guy who's been covering the baseball Wildcats all year.

697
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Bat Cat Central is the name of the website. Derek

698
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:56.599
<v Speaker 1>Terry is the name of the writer, and Derek, you

699
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>were down in Clemson up until Sunday until yesterday. I

700
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>had him make it back, of course, because you have

701
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 1>a real job today. But uh, it's just crazy how

702
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that regional basically encapsulated the entire season for Kentucky.

703
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 6>Isn't it?

704
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

705
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 3>And unfortunate Kentucky. But that's how it. Uh So that's

706
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:21.599
<v Speaker 3>how it ended, you know, the end of season of

707
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.920
<v Speaker 3>what is it, dick twelve won round offices this year,

708
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:28.679
<v Speaker 3>I think ends up being the final number. And uh,

709
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:32.519
<v Speaker 3>you know this one, Uh, this one stinks. I mean

710
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:36.679
<v Speaker 3>you're up two times by five runs in this uh,

711
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:41.679
<v Speaker 3>in this final game against West Virginia and you know,

712
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.360
<v Speaker 3>unable to hold it and use a lot of pitchers.

713
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 3>If you if you look the box score, it looks

714
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 3>a lot like some of those midweek games with some

715
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 3>of the names that are out there, you know, just

716
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:56.280
<v Speaker 3>really having to go deep into the pen. And uh,

717
00:41:56.639 --> 00:41:58.280
<v Speaker 3>you know there were some errors in there as well

718
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 3>that led to that, which on one hand, West Virginia

719
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 3>committed five errors themselves. You know, they didn't play very

720
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:09.920
<v Speaker 3>plain either And at the end, you know what you said,

721
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 3>I think is probably true. That really kind of encapsulates

722
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.280
<v Speaker 3>the season. Just a lot of really close calls, a

723
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.599
<v Speaker 3>lot of really hard losses and season ends and in

724
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 3>pretty brutal fashion. It's hard to see a season end

725
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 3>like that.

726
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, Minjeone likes to talk about doing things they've

727
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:33.599
<v Speaker 1>never done before. I don't remember them losing a game

728
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 1>like this, especially one that brings the season to an end.

729
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just it's nuts. But you mentioned errors,

730
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and I will always look back and I'm not pointing fingers.

731
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:46.159
<v Speaker 1>There were so many mistakes made. But the middle infielders

732
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>for Kentucky, Luke Lawrence, Tyler Bell, during the regular season,

733
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:58.039
<v Speaker 1>they committed only four errors a piece. They were you know,

734
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>they took up where Grant Smith and Amelian Petrade left off.

735
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:04.639
<v Speaker 1>They were one of the best middle infield I think

736
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 1>one of the best middle infielder combos in the SEC,

737
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 1>if not the country. And yet Luke Lawrence in the

738
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>first game against West Virginia a routine play, Tyler Bell

739
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.039
<v Speaker 1>in the game last night, a routine play, and they

740
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>both led directly to Hugh Jennings. Never saw that coming,

741
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean?

742
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know that is that is a tough way

743
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 3>to go out. I mean, both these games against West Virginia,

744
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 3>especially Sunday's game Friday, you know, I think they played

745
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:41.519
<v Speaker 3>that well. I don't think either team played very long Friday.

746
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it was just postseason nerves. Starting out,

747
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:46.760
<v Speaker 3>both teams committed air as he mentioned Lawrence Is that

748
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.480
<v Speaker 3>brought in two runs, and I believe West Virginia shortstop

749
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 3>also made their that led the UK scoring two runs.

750
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 3>So it was just kind of some sloppy play. He

751
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.480
<v Speaker 3>won't use this as an excuse. I'm not sure when

752
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 3>he'll talk to media again if he if he did

753
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 3>last night, I don't think Bell ever really got over

754
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.599
<v Speaker 3>that what happened Friday to start off. He just didn't

755
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>look the same, you know, is that leg I plot

756
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:16.000
<v Speaker 3>him for fighting through it, but I think it was there,

757
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:22.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, bothering him that whole time. So you know,

758
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think his range was as good. But just

759
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.079
<v Speaker 3>be told him that er, that's a pretty much a

760
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.800
<v Speaker 3>roostine ball, and he's made that play basically all year

761
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 3>and he didn't there and they led to health lead

762
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.320
<v Speaker 3>he should say to a really big inning.

763
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, there is a bright side to this, believe

764
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 1>it or not, in that some of the young guys

765
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 1>made big plays, big ad bats. You know, it seems

766
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 1>like Derek most of the quality on his team as

767
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the younger guys, you know what I mean, Does it

768
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>look that way to you.

769
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, Belle great Sea and you know he

770
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:02.880
<v Speaker 3>didn't go out the way he'd want, but this was

771
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:06.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's it's been a long time. I mean,

772
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think, Dick, when was the last time

773
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:11.599
<v Speaker 3>that you remember a freshman just clearly being the best

774
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 3>player on a team. Because I thought that was the

775
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.360
<v Speaker 3>case this yere cole h had a last year a

776
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.239
<v Speaker 3>senior transfer from Columbia, But I really just think all around,

777
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Bell was by far the best player, and you don't

778
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 3>see that all the time with the freshman. So Hudson

779
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:30.199
<v Speaker 3>Brown is a guy that will leave that regional feeling

780
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.320
<v Speaker 3>much better about probably his standing of where things are.

781
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was excellent those last few games. Lawrence

782
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:41.800
<v Speaker 3>can come back. Schwartz a starter, he can come back,

783
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.360
<v Speaker 3>So a lot to build around. And then on the

784
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:48.239
<v Speaker 3>mountain tooth leave Nick Harris give a great outing against

785
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Clemson some Sunday, So there's plenty of the build arounds.

786
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 3>So have some freshman come in next year too that

787
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I think can help right away. But you know, like always,

788
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.039
<v Speaker 3>now know it's probably going to come down to how

789
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.440
<v Speaker 3>well you do in the portal to kind of to

790
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.519
<v Speaker 3>build around the edges a little bit, and I think

791
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.920
<v Speaker 3>this team can. I think he liked the bones of

792
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:12.800
<v Speaker 3>the roster pretty well. But h I said, they need

793
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 3>to go to the portal and and find at least

794
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 3>two or three difference makers, hopefully put them back and

795
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:23.039
<v Speaker 3>probably regional competition for hosting a regional you know, contention

796
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 3>for that next year.

797
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because that is something that you know, Kentucky fans

798
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:29.639
<v Speaker 1>have gotten used to used to doing.

799
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.360
<v Speaker 3>And you know, well when they when they've advanced, it's

800
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:35.880
<v Speaker 3>been when they've held up themselves. It's it's hard when

801
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:37.920
<v Speaker 3>you go on the road and to try to win

802
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:38.840
<v Speaker 3>a reasonable.

803
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:42.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, your point about the best player being a freshman.

804
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Technically you can go back to the COVID season when

805
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>John Rhodes was the national national freshmen of their code,

806
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 1>but they only played seventeen games, so you know, that's

807
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of got an answers by it. But and you

808
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.599
<v Speaker 1>know now he's in an Orioles chain played you know,

809
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:05.199
<v Speaker 1>left early. But anyhow, Yeah, I mean, there's there's a

810
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>lot to like, but this was the most maddening season

811
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>for those losses, and I can remember and it just

812
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.199
<v Speaker 1>seemed like Derek had never got any better.

813
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:19.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, no it didn't. I mean if you think

814
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:24.400
<v Speaker 3>back to the Vanderbilt series when it's easy to say

815
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.840
<v Speaker 3>now because they weren't even among the last four teams

816
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 3>they got in. But yeah, when you were kind of

817
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.440
<v Speaker 3>sweating it out there on selection, you know last Monday

818
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Memorial Day for the selection show, you could point towards

819
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:39.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, two straight walk off home runs for Vanderbilt

820
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 3>and then in similar fashion, it wasn't a one run loss,

821
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:43.760
<v Speaker 3>but they held a three run lead I think in

822
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.800
<v Speaker 3>the sixth inning of the final game and ended up

823
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 3>not being able to hold it. So that was just

824
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:53.760
<v Speaker 3>one series, But there were others. I mean Auburn or yeah,

825
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.199
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Auburn they lost back to back

826
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:59.400
<v Speaker 3>eight to seven games. Texas they lost their one run game,

827
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, what an SEC game. But the MIDWEK against

828
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.039
<v Speaker 3>Woolville they lost. You know, they had to lead in

829
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:08.639
<v Speaker 3>that game and lost. So when you have that many,

830
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's just one thing you can point sphere.

831
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there were situations where the coaches felt like

832
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.400
<v Speaker 3>they could have made some better decisions. You know, there's

833
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:19.719
<v Speaker 3>plays that the players could have done better thinking. I

834
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.679
<v Speaker 3>think it was against auebign right. I can't remember if

835
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 3>it tied it or if it put or if you

836
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:26.800
<v Speaker 3>k would have won, or if it just led to

837
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:30.960
<v Speaker 3>it been tied. But Bell I think dropped the pop

838
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:33.199
<v Speaker 3>up in the infield really early on in the season,

839
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:37.320
<v Speaker 3>and you know, so there's enough flame to go around.

840
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

841
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.000
<v Speaker 3>I would say the goal now for the coaches will be,

842
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, the portal opens today Monday, and from from there,

843
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, they'll spend the next few days, I'm sure

844
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:52.280
<v Speaker 3>evaluating what they thought went well, where they need to

845
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Speaker 3>get better and try to identify things within their roster

846
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.880
<v Speaker 3>that you know, maybe led to this and to the

847
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:03.840
<v Speaker 3>end this kind of season. But overall, I mean three

848
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 3>straight tournament appearances. This is a team that, as strange

849
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 3>as it's kind of the outcomes were in terms of

850
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.679
<v Speaker 3>how disappointing it was, I feel like they had expectations

851
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 3>and I know people are going to it is a

852
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:19.960
<v Speaker 3>bitter loss, you know, to lose that way, I think

853
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 3>it'll haunt people for a while so are involved with

854
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.960
<v Speaker 3>that game. But to get back to a regional in

855
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:26.639
<v Speaker 3>a season like this where they had to replace so

856
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:29.239
<v Speaker 3>much from a College World Series team, I think they

857
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:34.239
<v Speaker 3>really showed a lot to be honest, that this was

858
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:36.960
<v Speaker 3>not some kind of one off kind of thing last

859
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.639
<v Speaker 3>year or you know there you know, Mark excuse used

860
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:41.639
<v Speaker 3>to talk about it after that twenty eighteen season that

861
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:43.199
<v Speaker 3>they just didn't want to have a good team, they

862
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.000
<v Speaker 3>wanted to have a good program. But I think for

863
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 3>baseball it was similar this year. You know, you didn't

864
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:49.880
<v Speaker 3>want to go two or three more years after you

865
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:51.719
<v Speaker 3>made it to the World Series before you had a

866
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 3>shot to really have a team that you felt like

867
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:56.280
<v Speaker 3>would be good again. So in that sense, you know,

868
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 3>you were cruising Sunday night, I felt like you're going

869
00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 3>to being a Game seven of the regional tomorrow you

870
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Monday night for that whenever the game was going to

871
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.280
<v Speaker 3>be played at some point on Monday, and it didn't

872
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:10.800
<v Speaker 3>fall that way. But uh, I don't think you look

873
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:12.519
<v Speaker 3>at this program and see it as one that's just

874
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:15.320
<v Speaker 3>so far off from getting back to Omaha. Really not

875
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.599
<v Speaker 3>a guarantee by any means. Yeah, I think if they

876
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 3>can go to the make the right kind of editions,

877
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 3>and uh absolutely it should be it should be a

878
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 3>team that isn't hosting conversation and that's probably something we

879
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:28.599
<v Speaker 3>can talk about later in the summer after the drafts

880
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 3>and and what we kind of see how a better

881
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:33.119
<v Speaker 3>idea of what the roster is looking like. But I

882
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:35.760
<v Speaker 3>feel like I keep a yeah, no, I was gonna say.

883
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I also think and I keep reminding myself. And you know,

884
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Minjion never used as an excuse. They had a significant

885
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:46.800
<v Speaker 1>number of injuries this year, two important players, and one

886
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>of them was to Robert Hogan. You know. The bullpen

887
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.719
<v Speaker 1>collapsed Sunday, uh, you know, and they had trouble with

888
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it all year. Robert Hogan pitched briefly this year and

889
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:59.039
<v Speaker 1>wasn't right when he pitched. And this is a guy

890
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:01.280
<v Speaker 1>they thought, and I thought they had every right to

891
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 1>expect that based on what he did down the stretch

892
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:06.760
<v Speaker 1>last year. He was one of the reasons they got

893
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>to Omaha, and they knew they could lean on him,

894
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.679
<v Speaker 1>a veteran pitcher who had really good SEC caliber stuff.

895
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>And he just wasn't there. And he wasn't the only one.

896
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:20.599
<v Speaker 1>There were four or five six players that they were

897
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 1>really counting on and that didn't happen last year. And

898
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 1>men Geone kind of mentioned this down the stretch that

899
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>last year and really the year before prior by the

900
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:34.079
<v Speaker 1>time they got the tournament play, everybody was healthy. And

901
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I throw in one more thing we forget unless we

902
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:40.159
<v Speaker 1>sit down and just think about it. Last year Kentucky

903
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:43.360
<v Speaker 1>had a left fielder who was putting together a first

904
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>round draft pick kind of season, you know, which was

905
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:50.199
<v Speaker 1>as important as anything that happened for that team. So

906
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I think this team had to scrap a lot more

907
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:55.559
<v Speaker 1>and just kind of ran out of gas.

908
00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

909
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.400
<v Speaker 3>I told Daniel Hager, who covered it for ks Are

910
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:03.159
<v Speaker 3>that you know, I felt like they maxed it out

911
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:05.639
<v Speaker 3>this year. I mean, I really did. This was a

912
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 3>team that I don't know that It's depends on how

913
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 3>you want to look at it. Because when he played

914
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:15.039
<v Speaker 3>as many close skins as they did, it's it's easy

915
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:16.960
<v Speaker 3>to look at the record and look at these individual

916
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:19.440
<v Speaker 3>games and say they should have won some of these

917
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 3>we add those up. When you add those up, it

918
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.519
<v Speaker 3>could have been a sixteen or seventeen win team in

919
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:28.960
<v Speaker 3>the SBC. But I guess if I it's kind of

920
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.840
<v Speaker 3>hard to quantify this. I don't know if I feel

921
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:34.559
<v Speaker 3>like that was their talent level though, I don't know

922
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.280
<v Speaker 3>if I feel like they were a seventeen type. I

923
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 3>mean that's pretty good, you know, if you can get

924
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 3>the seventeen wins in the league. I mean, that's a

925
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 3>clear regional host type team, and you can play with

926
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:49.079
<v Speaker 3>the numbers to say that that was a possibility. So

927
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean, that's a good point on

928
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Hogan though, because with how little he was used, you

929
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:58.280
<v Speaker 3>more or less kind of throw him in the in

930
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.280
<v Speaker 3>the category of like lost production from last year because

931
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:05.239
<v Speaker 3>he just never really did anything. And you know, it

932
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:08.000
<v Speaker 3>wasn't even an option on the stretch with his injury.

933
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:12.280
<v Speaker 1>No, And yeah, the thing is you thought you had him,

934
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>you know going into the season. That that was one

935
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of the toughest things about it. You know, he only

936
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>appeared in nine games, so yeah, you know, and we

937
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>can talk what it should have could have And I

938
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:26.559
<v Speaker 1>thought I thought Benjie and broke it down pretty well

939
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:29.639
<v Speaker 1>when he talked about how, you know, games come down

940
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to individual moments, individual pitches, plays, and they were and

941
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I felt like the same thing with all these close games,

942
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>they were really close to being I don't know if

943
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 1>it was seventeen wins, but being better than they were.

944
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:44.559
<v Speaker 1>So this is one man we're going to scratch our

945
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 1>heads about for a long time, aren't we.

946
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:49.400
<v Speaker 3>He I'll be curious to know kind of how this

947
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:53.960
<v Speaker 3>season is viewed in the long run, because really, I

948
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:56.559
<v Speaker 3>don't think we'll be a forgettable team. I mean, I

949
00:53:56.599 --> 00:54:00.800
<v Speaker 3>think they did a good job to get back, but uh,

950
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, no, no real defining moments outside of

951
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:09.880
<v Speaker 3>that Tennessee series. I think where they kind of turned

952
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 3>the season around and well, Oklahoma, Yeah, that was a

953
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:15.880
<v Speaker 3>good sleep. I was actually out of town that weekend,

954
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:18.480
<v Speaker 3>so that doesn't doesn't stick out in my mind as

955
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.119
<v Speaker 3>much as they it should have. You know, there's something

956
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.199
<v Speaker 3>game too. I mean, this was one where you send

957
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:28.599
<v Speaker 3>out the number eleven team in the country, probably played

958
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, tied of school record for runs in the postseason.

959
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:35.000
<v Speaker 3>So that was a good thing. And had they held

960
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 3>on and won last night and found a way to

961
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:41.039
<v Speaker 3>pull it off, and I think they very quickly would

962
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:42.840
<v Speaker 3>have become you know, kind of a lovable group that

963
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:46.119
<v Speaker 3>was just scrapping through the postseason found the way to

964
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 3>win some games. But as it was, you know what

965
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:50.679
<v Speaker 3>other element, Dick and I don't know much more time

966
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:54.039
<v Speaker 3>you got, but just how will the guys that are

967
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:55.880
<v Speaker 3>on this team that come back, you know, what what

968
00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:58.079
<v Speaker 3>lessons will they take from this year? How will these

969
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:00.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, really painful losses It all the time, you know,

970
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:02.159
<v Speaker 3>teams that come up a little bit short, they have

971
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.840
<v Speaker 3>really painful in to their season. It's a long way

972
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.440
<v Speaker 3>until they play again. And you know, I don't know

973
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 3>how much that will drive guys in the offseason or anything,

974
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.320
<v Speaker 3>but I guess kind of what mentality will got to

975
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:16.199
<v Speaker 3>take from this year that we're here and saw how

976
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:19.679
<v Speaker 3>close they were and and really probably how disappointed they

977
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:21.119
<v Speaker 3>are that it turned out the way that it did,

978
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.760
<v Speaker 3>with with with how close they were to getting back

979
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:28.119
<v Speaker 3>to forcing a winner take all games in that regional,

980
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:30.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, a lot to build on. I think that's

981
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:34.239
<v Speaker 3>if you want to take an optimistic view, they're they're

982
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:38.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they have a legitimate superstar. I think a

983
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:40.719
<v Speaker 3>Bell who should come back next year and leave the

984
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:43.840
<v Speaker 3>way Schwartz took a step up. We mentioned Brown, Ethan

985
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 3>handle got hurt. He's a guy that I think they

986
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:49.079
<v Speaker 3>love that. You know, Ethan's one of those guys that

987
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:52.440
<v Speaker 3>the production of this point's probably not matched. What kind

988
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:56.320
<v Speaker 3>of player he is. I think he's better than why

989
00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 3>he's shown. I think the coach is still that way,

990
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:04.119
<v Speaker 3>and I'll get him back from injury. So I think

991
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.159
<v Speaker 3>it will be a very exciting off season adding to

992
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:10.679
<v Speaker 3>this group. And I fully and again, well we'll want

993
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:13.960
<v Speaker 3>to play out. But just as the season ended, in

994
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:16.920
<v Speaker 3>my view, someone that keeps up with it a lot,

995
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:19.519
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's reasonable to think they're going in

996
00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 3>the next season that the expectation could be that there'll

997
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:24.960
<v Speaker 3>be one of those top sixteen teams again and then

998
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:26.039
<v Speaker 3>hosting a regional one.

999
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:30.639
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, and again that's the standard now,

1000
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:33.519
<v Speaker 1>so it makes it kind of fun. He is Derek Terry.

1001
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>He produces the website Batcats Central. You can sign up

1002
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Batcats pluralcentral dot com if you want to follow Kentucky baseball.

1003
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much, and we'll talk to you down the road.

1004
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:46.719
<v Speaker 3>All right, thanks for having me on coming up.

1005
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:48.480
<v Speaker 1>At the bottom of the hour or New York City

1006
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Bureau Chief Mike Sefasnik, you'll talk about the Cats and

1007
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the NBA on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

1008
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Side, and just a quick segment here ahead

1009
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:01.440
<v Speaker 1>of the bottom of the hour. We will chat. But

1010
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Mike Safaznik, he is the producer of the Mike Saffo

1011
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:08.239
<v Speaker 1>podcast where he talks sports and he likes to talk

1012
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to authors, also traveling. He is a guy who's been

1013
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:15.079
<v Speaker 1>He's trying to visit every country in the world, so

1014
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>we'll get caught up with him there. But the reason

1015
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I talked to him is he is such a UK fan.

1016
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:22.159
<v Speaker 1>I call him a New York City Bureau Chief. In

1017
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:25.000
<v Speaker 1>his real job, he is actually a New York City

1018
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:29.559
<v Speaker 1>police officer, but he goes by Mike Saffo on the podcast.

1019
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:31.760
<v Speaker 1>And he's a UK fan because when he was a kid,

1020
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:34.559
<v Speaker 1>when he was twelve, he went to a watch party

1021
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.719
<v Speaker 1>in New York City, where he's born and never lived

1022
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:43.039
<v Speaker 1>anywhere else, and he was the only UK fan watching

1023
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:45.320
<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky Duke game. And we all know what happened

1024
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:48.360
<v Speaker 1>in that game, but Mike was stubborn. He picked Kentucky

1025
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the underdog. He even had a white T shirt and

1026
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:53.840
<v Speaker 1>he wrote UK on it or Wildcat or something, made

1027
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:57.039
<v Speaker 1>it his own special jersey, and of course, with three

1028
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.360
<v Speaker 1>seconds or two seconds or whatever left in the game,

1029
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>ought his team at one. We all know what happened

1030
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>after that, and Mike ran home crying. But he's been

1031
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:08.039
<v Speaker 1>a Kentucky fan ever since. And he somehow reached out

1032
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:09.679
<v Speaker 1>to Cameron Mills. I think they get him on his

1033
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:13.400
<v Speaker 1>podcast and they became fast friends. And that's how I

1034
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:15.719
<v Speaker 1>met Mike. We've been up in New York visiting with

1035
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:17.840
<v Speaker 1>him and things like that, and he's been on my

1036
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>show several times as our New York City bureau chief.

1037
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:23.679
<v Speaker 1>So we'll chat with Mike coming up, and I want

1038
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:25.280
<v Speaker 1>to know what's going on right now, and I think

1039
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I already know with Knicks fans and Karl Anthony Towns

1040
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>now that they've lost in the playoffs, So we'll talk

1041
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:35.840
<v Speaker 1>about that, but we'll also talk about Mark Pope and

1042
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats in the upcoming season. You got to talk

1043
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<v Speaker 1>about that right with the New York City Bureau Chief

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<v Speaker 1>here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big

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00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider. Joining us now, we haven't chatted well. We

1046
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:48.119
<v Speaker 1>need to check in every now and then with our

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00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:50.559
<v Speaker 1>bureau chief. We have a few up in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Sephoznik of the Mike Staffo Podcast is my NYC

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<v Speaker 1>bureau chief. How are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>Dick Gabriel Always a pleasure and this is one you're

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00:58:59.239 --> 00:58:59.800
<v Speaker 4>the best.

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00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 3>To what you do?

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00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:03.360
<v Speaker 4>You know to call me or get me all when

1054
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:06.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm so down and disappointed with sports and stuff. So

1055
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.360
<v Speaker 4>you get me really animated. This is why you're a genius.

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00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:09.639
<v Speaker 4>You never called me when things are good.

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00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, the Yankees are doing okay right.

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00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.119
<v Speaker 4>Well they lost eighteen two nights ago, but yes, they

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00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:17.119
<v Speaker 4>won last night, so we're doing okay. We're in first place.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Aaron Judge is healthy, that's the important thing.

1061
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:23.119
<v Speaker 1>But I needed to make sure you weren't out on

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00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the Brooklyn Bridge thinking about doing something drastic after your

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00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>knicks locked. And we talked prior to the season about

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<v Speaker 1>Karl Anthony Town's the big trade to send Julius Randall

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00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to Minnesota. They have their issues, but it looked like

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00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Towns was doing everything you all needed them to do

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00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:42.599
<v Speaker 1>until you guys ran in to the Indiana Pacers, who,

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00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:45.000
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I hated when I was growing up

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00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:48.960
<v Speaker 1>because they kept beating my Kentucky Colonels. But just how

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00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 1>do people feel about Towns today?

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00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:57.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh, Dick Gabriel keys public enemy number one? Knicks fans, Yeah,

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00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.440
<v Speaker 4>what Knicks fans like me? We're out of control of

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01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:03.679
<v Speaker 4>noxiously rational. They love cats. And remember here's what I

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01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:06.519
<v Speaker 4>always tell you New York sports fans, they're not the

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01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:09.800
<v Speaker 4>biggest college basketball guys, so they didn't watch Kat at Kentucky,

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01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:11.639
<v Speaker 4>so they didn't know much about him. Then he went

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01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:14.320
<v Speaker 4>to Minnesota and all they see is his great stats

1078
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:16.960
<v Speaker 4>and he's a big dude. So when he came here,

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01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:20.199
<v Speaker 4>we think we're getting not me. The fans here like

1080
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:23.800
<v Speaker 4>we're getting old school big man who can pound, he

1081
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:26.719
<v Speaker 4>can bounce down below, he's gonna bump, and they think

1082
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.679
<v Speaker 4>they get like this Charles Oakley who can score. They

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01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:31.880
<v Speaker 4>see Cat like, okay, we like this naess and what

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01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:34.000
<v Speaker 4>do we talk about when he came, they're gonna love

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01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.440
<v Speaker 4>when he drops forty eight on a Thursday night against Milwaukee.

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01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:42.320
<v Speaker 4>But the playoffs came, he is unfortunately public enemy number one.

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01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:46.239
<v Speaker 4>Dictate every call to every sports show, every article. They're

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01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:48.920
<v Speaker 4>done with Cat. They're like one and done trade him.

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01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:50.920
<v Speaker 4>And of course we want the new shiny toy. We

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01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:53.800
<v Speaker 4>want Giannis that they're done with Cat. Unfortunately, they're done

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01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:57.239
<v Speaker 4>with the dumb styles. They turned on him real quick.

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01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.480
<v Speaker 1>It's bad and to be expected it being New York.

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01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I know it's the city you love, the city's so nice.

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01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:06.159
<v Speaker 1>They named it twice. But yeah, it's it's it's to

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01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:08.480
<v Speaker 1>be expected. He had to know that going. He grew

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01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:11.679
<v Speaker 1>up in New Jersey, right, yes, yes, so he.

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01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:15.840
<v Speaker 4>Kind of make the most one block one block. Jalen

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01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Brunson had most blocks than him. They hated the random three,

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01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:21.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, they forget he dropped twenty and that's great

1100
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:23.519
<v Speaker 4>comeback when. But Dick, they're done with him. Like I

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01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:27.039
<v Speaker 4>listened to all the podcasts Anthony Nick Laws, My Long

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01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:30.039
<v Speaker 4>Lonely Walk Yesterday alone, not worry. If I was get

1103
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:33.039
<v Speaker 4>hitten by a boss, I wouldn't care. Everyone's still a cat. Unfortunately,

1104
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 4>they've tied it with them. It's bad right now. I

1105
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:38.199
<v Speaker 4>don't love it. But they're like, he doesn't play defense,

1106
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:41.159
<v Speaker 4>he was targeted. We don't want him. This is what

1107
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:44.840
<v Speaker 4>mansouta got ridy. We need Randall that. It's so believable.

1108
01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:47.480
<v Speaker 4>That's just crazy right there.

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01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Though they want Randall back after they do they want

1110
01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Randall that, but that's sports, and that's sports in New York. Uh.

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01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.480
<v Speaker 1>The franchise doesn't hate him now, right, I mean, you

1112
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:00.199
<v Speaker 1>got the building blocks right right?

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01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:05.119
<v Speaker 4>I think, so listen obviously without getting two in depth,

1114
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.519
<v Speaker 4>we need a vet, you know, the Pacers just kept

1115
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:10.719
<v Speaker 4>running nine guys out there. Tims. He's known for using

1116
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.639
<v Speaker 4>the same six guys. We need defenders, that's what it is.

1117
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:17.360
<v Speaker 4>And I think we weren't sold, you know, a fusse item.

1118
01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:19.639
<v Speaker 4>There was no sweet baiton switch. We knew what we

1119
01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:21.679
<v Speaker 4>were getting with Kat. A lot of the real nick

1120
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:24.360
<v Speaker 4>fans didn't. They're not watching Minnesota West Coast games at

1121
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:27.079
<v Speaker 4>ten o'clock, so they think they're getting this bruiser. They

1122
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:28.719
<v Speaker 4>think a guy and all the time it's like, wait

1123
01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:31.000
<v Speaker 4>a minute, our center is just shooting threes. He's not

1124
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:33.559
<v Speaker 4>even a center. I think one caller told the great

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01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:35.000
<v Speaker 4>he says, he's not a big man.

1126
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:35.800
<v Speaker 3>He's just a.

1127
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:38.280
<v Speaker 4>Toll man, Like he's not a Knicks big man. You know,

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01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:40.679
<v Speaker 4>you're thinking Ewing Oakley Mason that.

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01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:41.239
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:43.159
<v Speaker 4>They we try to hold on to the glory days.

1131
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:46.000
<v Speaker 4>But unfortunately they're not the biggest fan of Colle Anthony

1132
01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:46.679
<v Speaker 4>Towns right now.

1133
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:48.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's amazing to me when I was I was

1134
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.559
<v Speaker 1>playing cards the other night with some friends and we

1135
01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:53.199
<v Speaker 1>were watching one of the games, and one of the

1136
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:55.960
<v Speaker 1>guys college fan dismissed they don't play any defense in

1137
01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the NBA. Said, Oh my gosh, yes they do. The

1138
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Pacers beat the daylights out of him when he was

1139
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:04.719
<v Speaker 1>in the paint. And I know there's been so much

1140
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:08.239
<v Speaker 1>said and written about the fouls you know that are

1141
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 1>called and not called in the playoffs. Indiana is amazingly

1142
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:15.880
<v Speaker 1>physical and Karl Anthony Towns took the brunt of that, didn't.

1143
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:17.960
<v Speaker 4>He He took it and they knew what they were doing.

1144
01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:19.920
<v Speaker 4>They would do a pick and roll, and they just

1145
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:23.159
<v Speaker 4>took advantage of him. Listen, Brunson doesn't play defense either,

1146
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.039
<v Speaker 4>but all we cared about was mak. You know, it's

1147
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:29.360
<v Speaker 4>old school basketball mentality. Robinson a logo on Matumbau. We

1148
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.119
<v Speaker 4>want our big guy to block shot. Yes, we want

1149
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:34.400
<v Speaker 4>to be the chef and that's not Kat and they

1150
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:36.719
<v Speaker 4>just took such advantage of him. And listen, we were

1151
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:38.880
<v Speaker 4>out coached. And the one thing Nick fans we don't

1152
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 4>we won't accept it seems better than us. The Paces

1153
01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:44.280
<v Speaker 4>are a better basketball team than us, and we would

1154
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:46.679
<v Speaker 4>accept that. So we have to find the reason. And

1155
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:49.480
<v Speaker 4>the reason now on today's tongue is Carl Anton Towns.

1156
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:52.800
<v Speaker 4>He's the reason we lost. If we had Randall, Randall

1157
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:56.639
<v Speaker 4>would have bumped yeah, so's it's typical of New York

1158
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.679
<v Speaker 4>sports talk radio. I don't want to say nonsense over.

1159
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah that's what it is.

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01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I knew

1161
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that was the case, but needed to get it from

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01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:10.800
<v Speaker 1>my bureau chief in fact. So now all you've got

1163
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:14.039
<v Speaker 1>to look forward to is next year. But you do

1164
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:17.239
<v Speaker 1>have a former Kentucky wild well, once a whilecat, always

1165
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:20.599
<v Speaker 1>a wildcat, as you know in Shake Gels of Alexander.

1166
01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Will you even allow yourself to root for another team? Right?

1167
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.039
<v Speaker 1>Do you just root for him with Oklahoma City?

1168
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:30.280
<v Speaker 4>I am basically I might bring out my Seattle SuperSonics

1169
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:34.000
<v Speaker 4>old gear. I am the biggest thunderstand because I like you.

1170
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Reggie Miller broke my heart. I've always hated the Piecers.

1171
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:40.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't like to stay of Indiana as a Kentucky

1172
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:43.239
<v Speaker 4>basket plan as well. And then when Halburton did the

1173
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:46.480
<v Speaker 4>choke still and then you wore black to like the

1174
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:49.920
<v Speaker 4>funeral in game six, and I am the biggest thun

1175
01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:52.760
<v Speaker 4>defan you've ever met. Right now, I am SGA. I

1176
01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:54.760
<v Speaker 4>might go to the MD store on Fifth Avenue to

1177
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Bida's jersey. Yeah, so I am usually I don't watch.

1178
01:04:58.039 --> 01:04:59.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, when Kentucky loses, I'm done. I don't want

1179
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:01.920
<v Speaker 4>the rest of the tournament. I don't care, you know,

1180
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:04.760
<v Speaker 4>I am all in appointment watching. I need to stund

1181
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:07.800
<v Speaker 4>it to embarrass the pieces because we should. They embarrassed us.

1182
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:10.880
<v Speaker 4>I need like another bully. We got bullied. I need

1183
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:12.320
<v Speaker 4>a bully to come take the take over them.

1184
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, now Halliburton is trying to make people believe that

1185
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:18.159
<v Speaker 1>he was slighted and that he's better than SGA and

1186
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:21.280
<v Speaker 1>all that. Of course, you know, uh, the kid in

1187
01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota was doing the same thing. So I think that's

1188
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:26.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be a really interesting matchup if they go

1189
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:26.960
<v Speaker 1>at each other.

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01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:30.360
<v Speaker 4>Well that's what it is. SGA, I don't know if

1191
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 4>he's even gonna be going. SGA is going fun on

1192
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.079
<v Speaker 4>a show, of course, but Halliburn's doctuing playing and then

1193
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:37.599
<v Speaker 4>part will be Yeah. So Halliburn just tossed listening when

1194
01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:40.079
<v Speaker 4>he did that choke signed, dick you if you would

1195
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:43.159
<v Speaker 4>have still my neighbors must have. I was worried they

1196
01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:44.400
<v Speaker 4>were going to pull the fleet some of the things.

1197
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:46.119
<v Speaker 4>I was screaming at him when he did the choke sign.

1198
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And for those listening who aren't NBA fans. The chokes

1199
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:55.360
<v Speaker 1>sign was basically an homage to Reggie Miller because that

1200
01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:58.039
<v Speaker 1>a big Pacers win over the next many many years ago,

1201
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Miller did the exact same thing.

1202
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 4>So uh, and he pointed, Reggie mill Is on the broadcasting.

1203
01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:07.360
<v Speaker 4>You know this, Reggie mill Is broadcasting it. He does

1204
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:08.880
<v Speaker 4>it chokes and points to Miller.

1205
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, as you pointed back at him too. I

1206
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:17.000
<v Speaker 1>gave Reggie Miller credit for not being all in on

1207
01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the Pacers. I know he had to be excited inside,

1208
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:22.199
<v Speaker 1>but uh, you know, you've got to maintain some level

1209
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:26.639
<v Speaker 1>of professionalism, especially at that level on tn T. But

1210
01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:29.039
<v Speaker 1>he did a good job. By the way, I don't

1211
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 1>know much of the NBA on TNT. You watch, I'm

1212
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:34.880
<v Speaker 1>a big fan. I run clips from Barkley and Shack

1213
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:38.719
<v Speaker 1>on my show. But you know, they have been so

1214
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:42.880
<v Speaker 1>great for the best studio show on television, and I'm

1215
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna miss it.

1216
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:46.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you any sport.

1217
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:48.519
<v Speaker 4>It's not just the best best one it is. Yes there,

1218
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 4>they're dynamic, and you know what I love about it.

1219
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:53.679
<v Speaker 4>And you know that you're a big sports guy, the NFL, MLB,

1220
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:56.000
<v Speaker 4>You're always changing it. You're bringing in a row, you're

1221
01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:59.519
<v Speaker 4>bringing in this one, You're that status thing. Their relationship,

1222
01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:03.280
<v Speaker 4>their dynamic, it was so pure. I was so broken

1223
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:05.480
<v Speaker 4>when they were starting it off. How is this? This

1224
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:07.639
<v Speaker 4>is the this was it? This is the NBA. I'm

1225
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.519
<v Speaker 4>so upsetentive. I love everything they did, really, even when

1226
01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:13.760
<v Speaker 4>your team's down and they talked. Honestly, I love it.

1227
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:16.159
<v Speaker 4>I think it can be very missed on that whole.

1228
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, it's part of your life, it's how

1229
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:20.760
<v Speaker 4>you watch the game. Tune it for them too.

1230
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:24.519
<v Speaker 1>And Ernie Johnson is the perfect guy and has been

1231
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:28.320
<v Speaker 1>for that group. And he reminds me of Dick Enberg,

1232
01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:32.119
<v Speaker 1>who was the perfect guy when they paired him with

1233
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Al McGuire and Billy Packer, and he knew when to

1234
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 1>shut up and let those guys go. And it was

1235
01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:39.519
<v Speaker 1>TV gold and there just isn't enough of that. Mike

1236
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Sephaznik is my guest. He is our New York City

1237
01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Bureau chief, a huge UK fan podcaster in his own right.

1238
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:47.960
<v Speaker 1>We'll come back and talk Kentucky sports in just a

1239
01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:51.239
<v Speaker 1>minute here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back. We're talking

1240
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.599
<v Speaker 1>with Mike Sephaznik, the Mike Saffo podcast is available. Can't

1241
01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:59.280
<v Speaker 1>recommend it enough, especially if you like books about crime

1242
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and if you like travel and things like that. I

1243
01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:05.119
<v Speaker 1>know you just got back from another country you checked

1244
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:06.639
<v Speaker 1>off your list? Where were you?

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01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:12.039
<v Speaker 4>I went to Lebanon and then Syria. Yes, I spent

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01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:14.400
<v Speaker 4>the week in Syria. So that was a wild one.

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01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:18.680
<v Speaker 4>And I'm actually going on. It's actually, besides North Korea,

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01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:22.199
<v Speaker 4>a country called Turkmenistan. It's actually the most difficult country

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01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:25.079
<v Speaker 4>in the world to visit. And after four years, I

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01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:27.479
<v Speaker 4>just got my visa three days ago. I'll be going

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01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.239
<v Speaker 4>there in two weeks. So yes, that's the next one.

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01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:33.239
<v Speaker 1>And you try to get to North Korea for how long?

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01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh, Dick, I'll tear the quickest story. I had the

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01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:39.359
<v Speaker 4>opportunity to go there eight years ago. I was invited.

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01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:41.600
<v Speaker 4>I said, yes, And what do you think happens if

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01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:43.600
<v Speaker 4>we're supposed to go in March? And I said, listen,

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01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:45.840
<v Speaker 4>I can't go in March because of obviously marching edne

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01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:49.640
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky basketball, so I don't go. We rescheduled for October.

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01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:52.000
<v Speaker 4>I won't go to the Yankees and the playoffs. And

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01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:55.960
<v Speaker 4>then the next time it was when unfortunately the Ottawamberg

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01:08:56.039 --> 01:09:00.079
<v Speaker 4>situation happened, and the USA stopped issuing visas, like we

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01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.520
<v Speaker 4>stopped going there. So the two chances I had my

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01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:05.119
<v Speaker 4>friend's way, I didn't go to the Kentucky and I

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01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:09.239
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't go to the Yankee. So typical Mike's spasmic ware spots, rooms,

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01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, other great opportunities to me.

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01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I do need to double back to the Knicks real quickly.

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01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:16.439
<v Speaker 1>I forgot to ask you about this. Mike h is

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01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:18.680
<v Speaker 1>very good friends with Cameron Mills, and that's how I

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01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:23.159
<v Speaker 1>met Mike, and we do the text chain thing as well.

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01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:25.840
<v Speaker 1>And the other day you sent us some photos of

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01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:29.359
<v Speaker 1>you at the next game with with Walt Frazier and

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01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:32.119
<v Speaker 1>other dignitaries, and uh, you were there as part of

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01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the security crew. You must have been like a kid

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01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:35.560
<v Speaker 1>on Christmas morning.

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01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:38.800
<v Speaker 4>We go there, didn't went out getting two into the

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01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:40.880
<v Speaker 4>whole story. I had to go there for work reasons,

1277
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:43.359
<v Speaker 4>for police reasons, right, and they're like, hey, listen, here's

1278
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:45.039
<v Speaker 4>the deal. You have full access. I need you to

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01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:46.760
<v Speaker 4>know basically, look out for this guy, this guy, this

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01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:49.560
<v Speaker 4>guy Mike. The one game there's no picture. I'm like, yeah,

1281
01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:52.279
<v Speaker 4>obviously they're not working. So, you know, John Stalks walks

1282
01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:56.359
<v Speaker 4>by me, like, all right, hey guys one Alan Houston,

1283
01:09:56.840 --> 01:09:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Helen Houston. But I'll let that one go. And then

1284
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:01.000
<v Speaker 4>I see well plots for Agil. I'm like, you know

1285
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:04.800
<v Speaker 4>what I'm done, mister Fraser boom, five minute conversation. I

1286
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:07.399
<v Speaker 4>see Bill Bradley, and then I'm digging. She reaped out

1287
01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:10.319
<v Speaker 4>do her a game Latrelle's free. Well it's Chris Child.

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01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:12.760
<v Speaker 4>If you dribbled the basketball, if you were over six

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01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:14.800
<v Speaker 4>to two. I was taking this picture with you. Hey, Mike,

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01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 4>don't take pictures on the floor. I had my toes

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01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:19.199
<v Speaker 4>on the blue just pin up a set. The guy

1292
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:22.359
<v Speaker 4>no self control. And finally the guy I was working with,

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01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:24.720
<v Speaker 4>he thinks Omark like, bro, we gotta get out of here.

1294
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:26.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, is everything the right to prow I see

1295
01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:29.039
<v Speaker 4>where this would go. Let's go. So, yeah, I got

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01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:31.520
<v Speaker 4>my pictures. You know, no self control, But yes, it

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01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:34.720
<v Speaker 4>was one of the coolest experiences watching the game from

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01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:37.199
<v Speaker 4>the floor. Was happened to beat that? Yeah? The only

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01:10:37.239 --> 01:10:39.079
<v Speaker 4>thing that they're very lucky. I couldn't get it for

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01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:41.439
<v Speaker 4>us to meet Kylie Jenner and Bench Stiller and those

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01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:42.560
<v Speaker 4>guys that was my next.

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01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Move, and I should have pointed out Mike is one

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01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:48.199
<v Speaker 1>of New York City's finest, but deep down he's a

1304
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:50.239
<v Speaker 1>kid at heart like we all are. All Right, well,

1305
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:52.920
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the basketball Cats. You've kept an eye,

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01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I know, and I'm certain you've peppered Deb Moore or

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01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:59.119
<v Speaker 1>whoever what's request to have Mike Mark Pope on your podcast,

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01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:02.880
<v Speaker 1>But you've watched him rebuild this team. We talked this

1309
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 1>past season about the joy that you took and how

1310
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:09.039
<v Speaker 1>well Kentucky played still though finished in around the middle

1311
01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of the pack in the SEC. How confident are you

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01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and what's coming up?

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01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:16.000
<v Speaker 4>Well back to last year, how fun was it because

1314
01:11:16.039 --> 01:11:19.000
<v Speaker 4>maybe my expectations were lower, and I'm like, you know what,

1315
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:21.680
<v Speaker 4>let's just have a buying season. And I remember Cameron

1316
01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:24.359
<v Speaker 4>calling me you jow Hood even reached the guys like, bro,

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01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:26.279
<v Speaker 4>give us a chance. You're going to love the way

1318
01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:28.479
<v Speaker 4>this team plays and then you fall in love with it.

1319
01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:30.520
<v Speaker 4>And it was something we always asked. And yet these

1320
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:32.479
<v Speaker 4>guys aren't going to be here four or five years.

1321
01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:36.039
<v Speaker 4>But getting these transfers over and these guys who proved

1322
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 4>it seems love Kentucky beast well not that the old

1323
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:40.960
<v Speaker 4>guys didn't. And I'm not going to have no rebusiness history,

1324
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:43.439
<v Speaker 4>you know, but I just love the way he's playing.

1325
01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:46.319
<v Speaker 4>You know what, twenty four and twelve we looked good.

1326
01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:48.399
<v Speaker 4>We weren't great in the conference, but out come, yes,

1327
01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:52.199
<v Speaker 4>he was stacked. She really could expect. The one thing

1328
01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:55.439
<v Speaker 4>that's weird because the NBA Draft's coming up soon and

1329
01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:57.079
<v Speaker 4>I never miss it and we might only have like

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01:11:57.119 --> 01:11:59.079
<v Speaker 4>a guy drafted. When was the last time we went,

1331
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:00.920
<v Speaker 4>have me twenty years that we didn't have a cat

1332
01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.439
<v Speaker 4>drafted in the first rounds? Right, So that's a weird

1333
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:06.720
<v Speaker 4>thing to not have this superstar. But how can you

1334
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:08.600
<v Speaker 4>not be excited about to see.

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01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:08.920
<v Speaker 3>This coming up?

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01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:10.840
<v Speaker 4>I think Polk's can do like the greatest job. Like

1337
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:13.840
<v Speaker 4>everyone's bought into his game, right, his system.

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01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:17.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting that you mentioned that about not

1339
01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:19.239
<v Speaker 1>having a first round pick, but I think it's a

1340
01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a bit of a win that Kobe Brea played

1341
01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:24.760
<v Speaker 1>himself into the second round. He was expected just to

1342
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:27.199
<v Speaker 1>be a free agent, you know, and he played well

1343
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:30.840
<v Speaker 1>enough for Kentucky. So yeah, I mean it's it's odd,

1344
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:33.039
<v Speaker 1>but it was more of a group effort.

1345
01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't it, Well, it's the team.

1346
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:36.760
<v Speaker 4>And all we said is so whenever we lost them

1347
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:38.439
<v Speaker 4>at it, if it was the Saint Peters or in

1348
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:41.199
<v Speaker 4>the Leit eight, we're not a team. We're players that

1349
01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:43.600
<v Speaker 4>want there's mostly me saying and not you because you're

1350
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:47.840
<v Speaker 4>a reasonable fan. It was we're not a team, you know, overreaction.

1351
01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:50.359
<v Speaker 4>My wife said that not made. But we finally played

1352
01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:52.720
<v Speaker 4>at the team last year week. You know, injuries, obviously

1353
01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:55.079
<v Speaker 4>I want more defense, so everyone in I bet I

1354
01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:58.000
<v Speaker 4>know we see the theme the Knicks, Kentucky, anything with

1355
01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:00.640
<v Speaker 4>a K. We don't play defense. We play a little defense.

1356
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:03.159
<v Speaker 4>That's calling of what I want a little more defense

1357
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:05.720
<v Speaker 4>to take that next step now you know, next step

1358
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:07.359
<v Speaker 4>is the Elite eight, and then you know we're building.

1359
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:07.960
<v Speaker 4>It's one year.

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01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:11.239
<v Speaker 1>To me, that was one of the more interesting chapters

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01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:14.119
<v Speaker 1>in the story this year was when they played at

1362
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Ole Miss And I'm sure you watched that game at

1363
01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:19.079
<v Speaker 1>their live on as your kids used to say on tape,

1364
01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:22.439
<v Speaker 1>and uh, they were so terrible and they looked like

1365
01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:26.560
<v Speaker 1>they weren't even interested, and Pope and company doubled down

1366
01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:30.560
<v Speaker 1>on defense. The next day he talked about Bray himself.

1367
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:33.640
<v Speaker 1>He said he literally threw himself and so I could

1368
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:35.920
<v Speaker 1>see him in my mind's I thrown himself on the

1369
01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:39.399
<v Speaker 1>floor at the Craft Center. But the defense amped up

1370
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:41.439
<v Speaker 1>and they were I won't say a different team, but

1371
01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:43.159
<v Speaker 1>a much better team, weren't they after that?

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01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:46.960
<v Speaker 4>It's exactly what Cameron said when Cameron's like, listen, Mark

1373
01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:49.520
<v Speaker 4>Polpe will not go to coch coach Pope will not

1374
01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:51.960
<v Speaker 4>make you run through the wall with him. He'll grow

1375
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:54.439
<v Speaker 4>through the wall first and then you follow. He's a

1376
01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:56.880
<v Speaker 4>perfect leader. And I loved when Cameron said that. I

1377
01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:58.439
<v Speaker 4>got pumped up, of course, and then I bought and

1378
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:01.439
<v Speaker 4>pulled out my old ninety six. Yeah, Kentucky sug but

1379
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:04.239
<v Speaker 4>they're buying into his whole thing, and you're excited again

1380
01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:06.920
<v Speaker 4>and again. Expectations of Holly where I think the pre

1381
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:10.319
<v Speaker 4>rankings with maybe fifteenth or sixteen maybe can's work. So

1382
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:12.960
<v Speaker 4>the expectations of Holly again because we're Kentucky, very similar

1383
01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:14.800
<v Speaker 4>to noticing, you know, one of the blue bloods, one

1384
01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:17.600
<v Speaker 4>of the elites. But I think we have another great season.

1385
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:21.359
<v Speaker 4>Like I just love this whole team aspect. I kind

1386
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.920
<v Speaker 4>of want one or two of the superstar studs. That's

1387
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.159
<v Speaker 4>just because like the shiny new toys. But I'm going

1388
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:27.800
<v Speaker 4>to trust Coach Pope on this one.

1389
01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Well take away could fit that bill and he's coming back.

1390
01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:33.600
<v Speaker 3>But what I find early, guy yea goo.

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01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:37.000
<v Speaker 1>What I find the most interesting about the way Pope

1392
01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:40.920
<v Speaker 1>has built this team is he's done it with returning players.

1393
01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:43.560
<v Speaker 1>He's done it with portal players, and he's done as

1394
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:45.960
<v Speaker 1>good a job just about as anybody with that. And

1395
01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:48.680
<v Speaker 1>he's doing it with true freshmen with recruits. Because your

1396
01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:52.800
<v Speaker 1>neighbor Rick Patino, the Saint John's coach, has said this year,

1397
01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:54.880
<v Speaker 1>at least for this year, he's not even looking at

1398
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.279
<v Speaker 1>high school players. He's going to do it through the portal.

1399
01:14:57.319 --> 01:14:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Of course, when you have Mike Ropoli, you know, the

1400
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Vitamin water billionaire, you can buy whatever you need if

1401
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:06.119
<v Speaker 1>they are if they're going to take the money. But

1402
01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I just like to mix that Pope is put together,

1403
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1404
01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:11.880
<v Speaker 4>And again I never not coach cal you know how

1405
01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:13.840
<v Speaker 4>much I loved him. But he would just say the

1406
01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:15.760
<v Speaker 4>ten best players, give me the ten bests. I don't

1407
01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:17.760
<v Speaker 4>care if six them play, you know, play the three.

1408
01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1409
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:20.560
<v Speaker 4>It seems that and it could be wrong on wrong

1410
01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:22.479
<v Speaker 4>a lot. It seems like Polk's like, Okay, we need

1411
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:24.119
<v Speaker 4>to let's find the best number two.

1412
01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:24.520
<v Speaker 3>He's not.

1413
01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:28.640
<v Speaker 4>He's strategically recruiting from everywhere, and he's doing it the

1414
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:31.159
<v Speaker 4>right way. Listen, we all want, you know, ten great things.

1415
01:15:31.199 --> 01:15:34.399
<v Speaker 4>We don't need ten Mercedes in your driveway. Like I

1416
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:36.239
<v Speaker 4>think he's just doing any piece we need. We need

1417
01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:38.119
<v Speaker 4>to We need a big man. Let's go get him.

1418
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:41.319
<v Speaker 4>We need, we need a good go. He's running the bench. Listen,

1419
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:44.640
<v Speaker 4>he's running a great program. Is only good things coming up?

1420
01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:45.079
<v Speaker 3>And I love it.

1421
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:47.000
<v Speaker 4>No one I don't want to say turned on him.

1422
01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:49.439
<v Speaker 4>You know, you lose the Tennessee in the you know

1423
01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:51.960
<v Speaker 4>in torment, that's stucky. But everyone still loves him.

1424
01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:52.479
<v Speaker 3>That's what I love.

1425
01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:54.880
<v Speaker 4>I hate when everybody just overreacts, which I'll usually do.

1426
01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I sell one overreaction Twitter tweet after some loss, when

1427
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:02.279
<v Speaker 1>somebody's get rid of him, now, don't wait, get rid

1428
01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:04.880
<v Speaker 1>of him, I'm like, what are you drunk? A few

1429
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:08.199
<v Speaker 1>minutes left with Mike Saffo, Kentucky fan or New York

1430
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:11.000
<v Speaker 1>City borough chief and a terrific podcaster in his own right,

1431
01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:16.600
<v Speaker 1>What about Patino? What what had that done? Because man

1432
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.640
<v Speaker 1>playing in the garden and I love coming up even

1433
01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:22.680
<v Speaker 1>though Kentucky lost. I love covering games in the Garden.

1434
01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I first did it in seventy six when Kentucky won

1435
01:16:25.399 --> 01:16:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the n I up there there's no place better. And

1436
01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:31.399
<v Speaker 1>for him to get that place rocking again. And he

1437
01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:34.720
<v Speaker 1>was one of the great stories in the NCATE tournament

1438
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:37.000
<v Speaker 1>this year until Cali Perry brought it to an end.

1439
01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:39.279
<v Speaker 1>But what that What has that been like? Watching him

1440
01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:42.479
<v Speaker 1>breathe new life into the college team in New York.

1441
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:46.560
<v Speaker 4>It's so great. Like I said, unfortunately college basketball here

1442
01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:49.239
<v Speaker 4>isn't huge, but it was huge back in the Big East. Yeah,

1443
01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:52.159
<v Speaker 4>with Carni Seca, with Chris Mall and those guys, even

1444
01:16:52.159 --> 01:16:55.439
<v Speaker 4>to Felipe Lopez. So Katino comes from he was at Iona.

1445
01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh you know, there'll be a story here and there.

1446
01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But halfway through the year when there were no more

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01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:02.600
<v Speaker 4>game to Carni Seca because too many fans were going there.

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01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:07.079
<v Speaker 4>And like Frances and New York Sports radio is talking

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01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:10.279
<v Speaker 4>about Saint John's. They never got discussed. You would get

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01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:14.039
<v Speaker 4>a call randomly if they made a tournament. No one

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01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:16.439
<v Speaker 4>told me. Now they were kind of leading some story.

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01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:19.359
<v Speaker 4>And listen, Patino is just a magnet when Coach P

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01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:22.079
<v Speaker 4>does anything, and now the team's going on a run,

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01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:25.199
<v Speaker 4>and of course the story with Calipari. But Patino up

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01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:28.880
<v Speaker 4>here bringing games now to the Garden, now playing Kentucky

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01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:31.000
<v Speaker 4>this year. I know it's in Atlanta, I believe, But

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01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:34.640
<v Speaker 4>now he is. He is the story. They're talking about recruiting,

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01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:37.079
<v Speaker 4>and I don't think the last time we talked about

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01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:39.239
<v Speaker 4>recruiting if he was like a Felipe Lopez.

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01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Recruiting twenty thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>And so anything Patino's doing now, like I got his

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01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:48.479
<v Speaker 4>name the guard who he sat in the second half?

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01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Was it really?

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01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:53.640
<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately I forgot the Saint John's guard that would never

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01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:55.760
<v Speaker 4>be discussed and it was a lead story. I'm like, wow,

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01:17:55.880 --> 01:17:59.439
<v Speaker 4>what Patino's doing? So people care about Saint John's basketball? Now,

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01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:02.039
<v Speaker 4>what's your be good? Anytime he talk basketball is great.

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01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:04.680
<v Speaker 4>But anything Coach P does up here now is a story.

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01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:06.960
<v Speaker 4>So he's got the Garden, He's on the jumbo tron.

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01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Anything Patino does, he got the dinner. He's making the

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<v Speaker 4>newspapers and he lost it too. Yeah, now just he

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01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:16.399
<v Speaker 4>is a stafle theer. Probably we'll city on sport's so

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01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:18.079
<v Speaker 4>great and they want a Tino coach, and Nick, I'm

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01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:19.800
<v Speaker 4>telling you it's gonna be crazy to deal with him.

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01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:22.000
<v Speaker 4>They adore him. They lost him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, no doubt. And here's so old I am. You know,

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01:18:24.039 --> 01:18:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm older than dirt. But I covered that Saint John's

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01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:30.640
<v Speaker 1>team that played in the final four in lexingon Kentucky

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01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:35.760
<v Speaker 1>in rupp Arena back in nineteen eighty five, and by coincidence,

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01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Felipe Lopez, his Saint John's team was upset by Detroit

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01:18:40.159 --> 01:18:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Mercy in the NCA Tournament. I had that game for

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01:18:42.279 --> 01:18:45.520
<v Speaker 1>INCA Radio, so I got a chriss cross with Saint

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01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:49.439
<v Speaker 1>John's throughout my career. Anyhow, we are out of time, sadly,

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01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:53.000
<v Speaker 1>but we're talking in Mike Saffo the Mike Saffo Podcast.

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01:18:53.079 --> 01:18:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Check it out. He is our New York City Bureau

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01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:59.199
<v Speaker 1>chief and it's crazy about all things UK basketball. And

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01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you're on Twitter. Tell people who had to find you on.

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01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:05.399
<v Speaker 4>Twitter at Mike's STAFFO m I k E s A.

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01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:08.159
<v Speaker 4>Fol Please do not go to my Twitter after Nick's lost,

1491
01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:12.439
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky lost, Kentucky Yankees lost, Giants loss. Whenever my sports

1492
01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:15.119
<v Speaker 4>team lose, don't go I overreact sometimes and I apologize

1493
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:16.840
<v Speaker 4>in the morning, though I apologize, Yes.

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01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Don't when he said when he tweets my life is over,

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01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:22.680
<v Speaker 1>don't take it literally. He'll be back. Thanks sir, you're

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01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:23.399
<v Speaker 1>talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, sir, and that'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to my guest Mike's Shaffo, Jeff Mcorol and Derek Terry.

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<v Speaker 1>Good night from the garage and Lexington.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like I picked the wrong week, Chris Smoker.

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01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:35.840
<v Speaker 6>It's like I picked the wrong week.

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01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:38.079
<v Speaker 4>Quick Drink, It's like I picked the wrong week.

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01:19:38.199 --> 01:19:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Quit on peta means picked the wrong week.

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01:19:40.840 --> 01:20:12.800
<v Speaker 7>Christas Blu tact.

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01:20:24.079 --> 01:21:24.079
<v Speaker 8>Tact anything canning the back takes to tson it, don't, don't,

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01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:31.640
<v Speaker 8>don't notting to the
