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<v Speaker 1>Now one one you're putting. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. Something just kiss my dog. Something killed your dog?

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<v Speaker 1>My dog. We're flying through the or over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, damn, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really confused. All I saw is my dog coming

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<v Speaker 1>over the fence, and he was dead once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. I didn't have see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>It was?

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<v Speaker 1>It was staying enough. I'm out here looking through the

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<v Speaker 1>window now and I don't see anything. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go outside. Jesus Christ, you better.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit the fuddy out here. What quin I'm out there?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of a bitch about taking fort nine. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Easy an out there? Yeah, I'm walking right.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, all right, folks on, welcome my guest to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>It is John from Kansas. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>John, Thank you very much, good to be here.

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<v Speaker 4>I am so glad to have you. It has been

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<v Speaker 4>a long time coming. We got to hang out a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of months ago over in Missouri at the Ozark

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<v Speaker 4>Mountain Bigfoot Conference camp out. I see it so many times.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always great to have people on that I've actually

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<v Speaker 4>sat and talked to in person. That's a rarity these

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<v Speaker 4>days because most of this stuff happens over the internet.

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<v Speaker 4>I get emails or we connect in Facebook groups. But

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<v Speaker 4>I actually got to sit down and talk to you personally.

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<v Speaker 4>You were at the conference, you were at the camp out.

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<v Speaker 4>So it has been a long time coming, and I've

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<v Speaker 4>been excited to have this conversation. I want to start

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<v Speaker 4>in the same place that I start with everybody I

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<v Speaker 4>have on the show, What in the world got you

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<v Speaker 4>interested in the subject of bigfoot Sasquatch?

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<v Speaker 2>To begin with? What got me into He's Like many others,

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<v Speaker 2>it goes back to the Patterson Gimmlin film. In nineteen seventy,

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<v Speaker 2>I graduated from grade school in the Junior High and

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<v Speaker 2>the Junior High library was much better stocked with interesting books.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was my first time to get into cryptis.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have even knew what cryptids were at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>I followed the regular stuff Locked mass a bominable snowman

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<v Speaker 2>in the Northwest Bigfoot. I read everything I could right

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<v Speaker 2>reports on it when I could. Then I ran into

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<v Speaker 2>a YouTuber called Utah Sasquad Made Them Real and was

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<v Speaker 2>watching his and many other content providers for the Bigfoot subject.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked him, he was approachable and I learned it

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<v Speaker 2>from him. I'm sure it was a widespread idea that

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<v Speaker 2>you have in your area habitat, food supply and water,

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<v Speaker 2>that you need to be looking around, that there's a

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<v Speaker 2>pair chance that to get squot. That was my big

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<v Speaker 2>aha moment game on. I started looking and started finding straff.

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<v Speaker 4>It happens differently for different people when you get into

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<v Speaker 4>the subject. It took me years to actually get out

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<v Speaker 4>and start looking for these things, but it sounded like

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<v Speaker 4>that happened pretty quickly for you when you got out

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<v Speaker 4>and started looking for sign you started looking for these creatures.

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<v Speaker 4>How long did it take before you had what you

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<v Speaker 4>believed to be an encounter or an experience with one

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<v Speaker 4>of these creatures?

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<v Speaker 2>A day? And that sounds like I'm super LUCKI or

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<v Speaker 2>I bragged a lot and make things up, and I

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<v Speaker 2>tell but I started talking around the neighborhood and a

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<v Speaker 2>neighbor he said he had evidence of tree breaks, tree hangs.

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<v Speaker 2>So my brother and I went over and planned and

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<v Speaker 2>sure enough it hit what I had been seeing on

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<v Speaker 2>the YouTube video. So that was my first boots on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. And it was a swampy area, a wetnans area,

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<v Speaker 2>so the ground by nature is more like a softer

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<v Speaker 2>play really good for tracks. Other than there's a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of cattails, so a lot of ground debris that would

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<v Speaker 2>hide all tracks. But I figured anything that was eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred pounds or so walking around and relatively daped soil

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<v Speaker 2>has to leave a tree. So I looked and I looked,

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<v Speaker 2>and I found a big toe in soft dirt. I

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<v Speaker 2>could not believe it. The only animal heavy enough to

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<v Speaker 2>leave this and then it probably went down maybe three

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<v Speaker 2>quarter inch, smaller than a maybe a fifty cent piece.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty darn deery, but just the gorgeous big cow. And

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<v Speaker 2>then there was compressions that would indicate where the four

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<v Speaker 2>toes were, and I took measurements, studied those, and I

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<v Speaker 2>determined that it was a fourteen by six inch track, but

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<v Speaker 2>only the big toe was on the soil that was undeniable.

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<v Speaker 2>Only other animal in this area that would have to

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<v Speaker 2>wait to do that would be a deer. We're reported

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<v Speaker 2>to have some pig in the area, so colnd hoof,

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<v Speaker 2>so you'd have sharpening gents for that, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>no animal that could have left there, so I was

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<v Speaker 2>totally unprepared. I've been casting animal tracks since I was

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<v Speaker 2>a pre tooled living on a farm, so I wasn't prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the time I got back spring rains came

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<v Speaker 2>in and it was under six inches of water, but

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<v Speaker 2>seedar was planned. So then I started looking around in

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<v Speaker 2>the area more and this real guy said, steady your

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<v Speaker 2>thupple nat, see where the water is, see where the

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<v Speaker 2>habitat is. I went from there and crowned on different

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<v Speaker 2>occasions tracks over the next year. And then life always

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<v Speaker 2>gets in the way, and I hadn't been out as

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<v Speaker 2>much in the field, but that was about to take

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<v Speaker 2>me started. I'm not going backwards now. After seeing that print,

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<v Speaker 2>that is made my day. I smiled for a month

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<v Speaker 2>after that. I'm a track guy. I'm not a tracker.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a whole different skill set. But I love the

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<v Speaker 2>animal tracks. I have the whole pass collection of dogs

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<v Speaker 2>and pats and possumuam coon and squirrel and bob care

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<v Speaker 2>and buffalo, and I don't have my mountain lion yet,

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<v Speaker 2>still looking for that. I love tracks, so I'm the trail.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I can definitely relate because one of the best

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<v Speaker 4>I can't see. The best I did get to cast

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<v Speaker 4>the best print that I think I will ever see,

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<v Speaker 4>frankly on our property gosh, three years ago or so,

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<v Speaker 4>sixty five yards away from the property, but one of

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<v Speaker 4>the other best tracks that I've ever come across. I

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<v Speaker 4>initially told myself it was Paradolia. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 4>just a Paradolia footprint that I was looking at in

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<v Speaker 4>the standing water, and of course it had been raining

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<v Speaker 4>the day before. It was in a low lying area.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't a creek, but it was in a low

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<v Speaker 4>lying area where there was standing water. I crossed over

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<v Speaker 4>this track, I stopped because it immediately looked like a footprint.

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<v Speaker 4>And the closer I looked, and the more I inspected it,

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<v Speaker 4>the more it looks like what I would consider to

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<v Speaker 4>be the quintessential example of a sasquatch print. So I

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<v Speaker 4>snapped a couple of photos. I continued on the hike

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<v Speaker 4>because I wasn't doing anything bigfoot related that day. We

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<v Speaker 4>were on a hike, just enjoying nature, enjoying a different

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<v Speaker 4>piece of our property that we hadn't hiked before. And

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<v Speaker 4>then fast forward a couple of years later, I showed

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<v Speaker 4>this photo of this print to Cliff Barrickman. I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 4>having dinner with Cliff because I was out speaking at

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<v Speaker 4>a conference with him and doctor Jeff Meldrum and Michael Freeman,

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<v Speaker 4>and I show Cliff this photo and I'm like, look

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<v Speaker 4>at this Paradola footprint. Isn't this cool? And Cliff's, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>did you cast this? And I said no. It was

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<v Speaker 4>in standing water, which I've never casted in before. It

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<v Speaker 4>had rained the day before, it was raining the next

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<v Speaker 4>three days after I found it. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 4>paradoley and Cliff was like, no, dude, that's clearly a

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<v Speaker 4>Sasquatch footprint, one of the better ones I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>You should have cast it. And I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>of course one of the best. At that time, that

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<v Speaker 4>was the best one that I had seen. I'd cast

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<v Speaker 4>it other prints that turned out to be crap, which

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<v Speaker 4>most of them honestly are if they're legitimate in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>And I learned that from Cliff, and I learned that

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<v Speaker 4>from people like doctor Meldrum over the years. Cast everything

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<v Speaker 4>you come across, and it would have been a great

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<v Speaker 4>time for me to learn how to cast and take

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<v Speaker 4>the water out, but live and learn. So I totally

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<v Speaker 4>get it. But it does one of the two things

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<v Speaker 4>for most people. Some people find those things and it

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<v Speaker 4>makes them go in the complete opposite direction. They're like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want any part of this. That's scary to me.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a huge animal that's not supposed to exist

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<v Speaker 4>that I am looking at the remnants from. So that

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<v Speaker 4>puts people way closer in a lot of cases than

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<v Speaker 4>they want to be. Obviously, it wasn't the case for you,

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<v Speaker 4>and hasn't continued to be the case. It clearly pushed

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<v Speaker 4>you in the opposite direction to go and look further

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<v Speaker 4>for these things. So let's talk about the encounter that

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<v Speaker 4>you and I discussed at the camp out. Unlike most people,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't hear a lot about the encounters people have

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<v Speaker 4>before they come on the show. But you and I

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<v Speaker 4>had a conversation about this, So I want to now

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<v Speaker 4>share that with the rest of the people listening to us. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>let's set it up for them. Let's tell everybody where

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<v Speaker 4>you were, what you were doing, and what happened during

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<v Speaker 4>your encounter with one of these creatures.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a DFROL expedition Oklahoma, Northeast Park. Well due

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<v Speaker 2>to the nondisclosure a dream and I can't get into

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of detail on that. The if you know

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<v Speaker 2>that east side, it's just heavy Ozark country or per

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<v Speaker 2>the in Sasquat record and you can visualize the country.

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<v Speaker 2>They always start with the you sign in Thursday afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>and usually go around at night for night maneuvers. Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 2>which we didn't see your hair much, but we accept

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<v Speaker 2>the tone for the week. So the next day we

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<v Speaker 2>in the app from there and just drive around and

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<v Speaker 2>scout the alien for possible places to go. At nine,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm in a car with four others. The driver

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<v Speaker 2>is a bfro Field investigator and it's his daughter and

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<v Speaker 2>future son in law. Then in another fast walked on

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<v Speaker 2>that for the first time, and this other guy was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more experienced than me too. So we're driving

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<v Speaker 2>around and this guy calls out to stop. Now for context,

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<v Speaker 2>these are country roads or county roads, so we're not

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<v Speaker 2>full little dried, and we're just driving around the trunty side.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mixed timber and some pasture. That's what you went

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<v Speaker 2>invision in the National forests. It's pretty good. It's ability,

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<v Speaker 2>not really dense wood, not really big caliper trees. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're going around and by golly, he sees a tree structure.

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<v Speaker 2>So we stopped. All the doors fly open and we

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<v Speaker 2>jeff the fence that was mostly down anyway and locked

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<v Speaker 2>over it and studied this tree structure. I've seen them

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<v Speaker 2>in my pome research are in two a lot. So

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<v Speaker 2>you look and see where the trees came from. Well

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<v Speaker 2>it's only like seven detalls, so it's not a huge one,

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<v Speaker 2>not huge tree es, but to still look around for

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<v Speaker 2>root balls where they come from. And it all passed

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<v Speaker 2>the sniff test. There's no chainsaw marks or cross beretsaw marks.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just broken off and stack that And in

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<v Speaker 2>training park was it was driving on a game trail.

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<v Speaker 2>So the other four decided we need to check out

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<v Speaker 2>the game trail for ampossible other evidence. And I figure

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<v Speaker 2>five sets of eyes isn't in better than four sets

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<v Speaker 2>of eyes, So I stayed at the tree. Plus, I

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<v Speaker 2>just love staring at a tree structures. It just makes

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<v Speaker 2>me smile just to see how things are interlaced and

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<v Speaker 2>building the logical pace that mother nature didn't do this

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<v Speaker 2>as something else. So I'm there being quiet. To my right,

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's a farm house because of her door

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<v Speaker 2>shut and a vehicle sound, but I can't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's out of sight. So these four start going straight

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<v Speaker 2>ahead to me. I'm spending him on the game trail.

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<v Speaker 2>They're following the game trail out and to my right,

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<v Speaker 2>Eve here annoying. I grew up on an eighty acre farm.

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<v Speaker 2>We always had a year out for people trespassing on

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<v Speaker 2>our lands, and my dad would always go out. He

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<v Speaker 2>never had an ugly confrontation that he does come out,

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<v Speaker 2>But what the heck you doing? I didn't know if

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<v Speaker 2>this is pride of the land or not. I still

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<v Speaker 2>don't know it's private land. So I figure I can

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<v Speaker 2>intercende so this guy doesn't jump. Are full of people

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<v Speaker 2>and in a hurry things get really heated. Try to

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<v Speaker 2>refuse him. So I'm looking for the sound, looking for

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<v Speaker 2>the farmer. Don't see him, don't see him. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the farmer crops up between some trees and he is

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<v Speaker 2>pulling walking alongside his paralleling his flanking the four as

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<v Speaker 2>they're walking straight and moving slow, just like I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>deer hunter, Just like i'd stalk the deer. If I

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm close, you freeze from the waist up and

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<v Speaker 2>just slowly go along. You don't want to throw your position,

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<v Speaker 2>do the movement. But if his dress head, the coat

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<v Speaker 2>and something, I don't see why a bomber would be

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<v Speaker 2>dressed like that. So he goes on a little further

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<v Speaker 2>and gets behind some trees. I don't sam It comes

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<v Speaker 2>out in the open of the ear. This time it's

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<v Speaker 2>in sunshine, so I can see it's a reddish brown

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<v Speaker 2>for three inches four inches long. Not a real stocky

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<v Speaker 2>dell will I go professional basketball player. I can't see

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<v Speaker 2>any face detail. It looks like it's a character from

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<v Speaker 2>the sitcom Adam's Family or the Monsters. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>which one. That the little it that comes up and

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<v Speaker 2>it is and then walks around, it's just a big

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<v Speaker 2>moplug's That's what this reminded me. Now, it didn't levitate,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't do any of the spoopy stuff or paranormal stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It loft just I would be walking the parallel to

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<v Speaker 2>these guys to see what's going on. So I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out why is that farmer wearing this

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<v Speaker 2>long bully suit? Of nice to notice here. The mind

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<v Speaker 2>does weird things to try to justify things. I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's a horse walking on hind legs. No horse

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<v Speaker 2>on hind legs, it's going to be a lot tall leggedness.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a sheep of goat or something I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>mix out. So I'm still trying to struggle with it,

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<v Speaker 2>and the other four are coming back now. That whole

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<v Speaker 2>lapsed time from noise to where it finally disappears, it's

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<v Speaker 2>only like thirty seconds, but I had a fair look

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<v Speaker 2>at it. It was walking side profile so before come

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<v Speaker 2>back and I said, did you guys hear seeing you

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<v Speaker 2>at whatever it was stalking you? And they didn't hear

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<v Speaker 2>or see anything. It was all news to them.

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<v Speaker 5>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We're right

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<v Speaker 5>back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>So the guy that's the DFRORO investigator started asking the

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<v Speaker 2>logical questions and offer me through it. He said, why

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<v Speaker 2>don't you walk me out to where you saw it

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<v Speaker 2>so we can get a size of comparison. So I did,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one hundred feet away from him. Oh it was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty close. And this guy is a sasquatch himself. He's

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<v Speaker 2>six' four was a big. GUY i figured WHAT i

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<v Speaker 2>saw was about the hands with higher so just under seventee,

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<v Speaker 2>toll LIKE i, say not real. Balty and SINCE i

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<v Speaker 2>was watching the side profile of, IT i don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how rob the shoulders. Were he, Said, john sounds three

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<v Speaker 2>like you heard the first pass a daytime, Sighting AND i, thought,

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<v Speaker 2>wow that just threw. Me i've known they're. THERE i

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<v Speaker 2>found their tracks on five different occasions back here at,

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<v Speaker 2>home SO i knew they were. There it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>revelation of. That that just the revelation of the same.

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<v Speaker 2>One it's still, hey it's just make me a little

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<v Speaker 2>all over there to replay. That in my, mind it

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<v Speaker 2>would have been different if you would have stared at

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<v Speaker 2>me or done a bluck charge or calls or. Anything

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<v Speaker 2>it was an easy on me first. Experience maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>future vaught so. SMOOTH i don't know if he ever saw.

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<v Speaker 2>ME i was. Still But i've heard somebody speculate that

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<v Speaker 2>they can follow one object or one, group but they're

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<v Speaker 2>not good in. Multitasking if there's a separate person or,

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<v Speaker 2>group they can't look at it all and. Study that's not,

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<v Speaker 2>evidence that's just.

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<v Speaker 4>SPECULATION i definitely understand where you're coming. From is that

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<v Speaker 4>the only experience that you've had with these things that

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<v Speaker 4>you think you can equate to sasquatch or was there

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<v Speaker 4>other experiences that you had after that sighting for that?

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<v Speaker 2>Trip that was the only. Word i've had other, endowners not.

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<v Speaker 2>Visual this is my only casual. One BUT i LIKE sava,

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<v Speaker 2>recordings SO i set out a recorder at, night And

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<v Speaker 2>i've had really interesting sounds of that and been down

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<v Speaker 2>To land between The. LAKES i don't go boker, crazy

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<v Speaker 2>like really serious sasquaters gear AND i FOUND lbl because

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<v Speaker 2>my parents we grew up all. Camping all my siblings

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<v Speaker 2>still camp and their kids from the most part still camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Late luck AND i camp down there a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times BEFORE i heard all the stories of what's IN.

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<v Speaker 2>Ldl so after she passed three and a half years,

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<v Speaker 2>AGO i still go down there my dog AND i

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<v Speaker 2>AND i set the night recorders AND i found A

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<v Speaker 2>the first couple of, YEARS i set the recorder up

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<v Speaker 2>too close to, camp AND i get too much background,

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<v Speaker 2>noise car, traffic AND i THOUGHT i need to spend

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<v Speaker 2>more time and find an isolated. Spot SO i found

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<v Speaker 2>a cemetery a half mile on really remo. Roads it

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<v Speaker 2>had a little turnaround area SO i could get off

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<v Speaker 2>the road to set up my. Quarter So i've set

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<v Speaker 2>it out there for a few years. Now last, fall

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<v Speaker 2>WHEN i pulled in treen o'clock at, night all, DARK

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<v Speaker 2>i was seeing flashing lights in the tombstones in the. Graveyard,

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<v Speaker 2>no this might not be the night to set. Out

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<v Speaker 2>so As i'm turning, AROUND i give a palm slap

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<v Speaker 2>on the side of my truck and there's nothing. There

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<v Speaker 2>SO i Decide i'm going. Home i'll come back. Tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>SO i came back the next day in, daylight AND

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<v Speaker 2>i debunked the flashing. Lights some of the tombstones were

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<v Speaker 2>modern polish, granted so WHEN i drove around the, circle

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<v Speaker 2>the headlights to cross them and it would flash back at.

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<v Speaker 3>Me that was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bunks so that made me feel a lot. Better and

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<v Speaker 2>THEN i stopped that WHERE i got the palm, slack

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<v Speaker 2>AND i say it was a palm. SLAP i don't,

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<v Speaker 2>know BUT i do. Know after, THERE i slapped the

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<v Speaker 2>side of the truck and it duplicated the sound exactly

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<v Speaker 2>in intensity and fidge and sustain and. Everything it was the,

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<v Speaker 2>sound and there was nothing. There there were trees there

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<v Speaker 2>that anything could have did. Behind Now i'll put on

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<v Speaker 2>the speculation. HAT i could see you young in there

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to use some. Campoolery and here's this truck driving

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<v Speaker 2>really slow around the circle when not running out and

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<v Speaker 2>slap it and see what he. Does BUT i don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that. NIGHT i said it again in thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>AFTER i set it. Out you can hear that my truck.

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<v Speaker 2>LEAVING i get two really loud tree, knocks just, unmistakable

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<v Speaker 2>And i've gotten a tree knox Cor i've only had

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<v Speaker 2>one vocalization on, record and it was so faint that

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<v Speaker 2>on obacity it didn't even. Spike the vocals didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>spike above transient, noise but you could hear it in wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Columns nothing to prove, anything but it reminds me of

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<v Speaker 2>nighttime fishing crew. Caps you throw your good bait out

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<v Speaker 2>there your, way you're probably gonna get, stung or maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>not or you might cretch a. Walker you just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know and WHEN i reviewed the audio and then those

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<v Speaker 2>sounds come, through it's the greatest. Feeling won't proof, squat

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<v Speaker 2>but something's.

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<v Speaker 4>THERE i used to fish a lot for. Catfish SO

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<v Speaker 4>i know exactly what you're talking. About let's go back

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<v Speaker 4>to your siding when you saw this thing in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the. Day i'm curious if you guys were

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<v Speaker 4>able to make contact and speak to the people at

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<v Speaker 4>the farmhouse that you were hearing to talk to them

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<v Speaker 4>to see if they had any kind of, experience is

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<v Speaker 4>whether they had heard or seen anything in or around

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<v Speaker 4>their property.

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't go too. Far it looks like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>grandma that lives. There there's no mention of the. Grandpa

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<v Speaker 2>and the grandma heard us out, there so she sent her,

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<v Speaker 2>grandson who is a twenty yearsh young man in his

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<v Speaker 2>muscle pickup, truck came out to the end of his

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<v Speaker 2>driveway and just looked at us for quite a, while

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<v Speaker 2>and then he drove down to. Us Mary, ann the

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<v Speaker 2>organizer of this, expedition talked to, him so we couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>hear the whole. Conversation he was, irritated and his grandma

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<v Speaker 2>sent him out to run us off the lamp And

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<v Speaker 2>Mary anne told her that one of our people here

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<v Speaker 2>think she saw us as. Spot, oh, now no such.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing they're not around. Here so, no not very. Cooperative

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<v Speaker 2>but the habitat is right for, it and WHEN i got,

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<v Speaker 2>Home i'm A gps, team SO i got MY gps

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<v Speaker 2>point for. It WHEN i got, HOME i put it

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<v Speaker 2>on my garment online map started looking at topology of

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<v Speaker 2>what's around, there and this. Thing it was just a

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<v Speaker 2>stone's throw from the Feeder creek THAT i hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 2>before on the other side of the, road and that

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<v Speaker 2>feeder creek goes down through the water feature where our

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<v Speaker 2>base camp was. At there's been multiple sightings in that,

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<v Speaker 2>area so it's all. Plausible it's not like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>one off. Thing there's also just within a half. MILE

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<v Speaker 2>i can't say, details but there's another food source that

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<v Speaker 2>would attract us asquatch to come up that, creek to be,

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<v Speaker 2>there or have a family group, there or have better

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<v Speaker 2>than average food options in the. Area it just makes.

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<v Speaker 4>SENSE i want to talk a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 4>environment just before you had the. Encounter was there a

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<v Speaker 4>shift that some people talk about that they can feel

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<v Speaker 4>before four they have an encounter where they actually see

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<v Speaker 4>one of these. Creatures did that happen for? You was

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<v Speaker 4>there any kind of a shift or anything that may

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<v Speaker 4>have tipped the hand that you were having this encounter

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<v Speaker 4>or did you just feel like everything was normal and

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<v Speaker 4>you were looking at a farmer that was coming from

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<v Speaker 4>the house.

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<v Speaker 2>My, mind so it was a farmer the whole. Time

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<v Speaker 2>that light bulb didn't come on until the investigator finally

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<v Speaker 2>concluded that you saw on Sasquatch. John so, NO i

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<v Speaker 2>haven't felt, that even though the night before and that

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<v Speaker 2>night from. It this was all upstream from a, farmhouse

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<v Speaker 2>an abandoned farmhouse that was. Reallyoot now we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any thermal images to say that it was. Squatchy we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't hear any calls to say it was, squatchy but

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<v Speaker 2>the ambiance was. There you'd hear little, noises things shifting

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<v Speaker 2>around in the. Night there are some bedding down areas

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<v Speaker 2>and the abandoned structures that could have been any, raccoons

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<v Speaker 2>possums with street but still the overall ambulance was everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was on, there Including. Levi that name comes up in our.

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00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Vfrost he comes to us from THE ufo side of

416
00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:23.279
<v Speaker 2>light and he was going nuts all with the vibes

417
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.680
<v Speaker 2>and what his meters were telling it in that. Area but,

418
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.519
<v Speaker 2>yeah WHEN i saw it was all calm that he's

419
00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:31.440
<v Speaker 2>just daylight and no.

420
00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:35.039
<v Speaker 4>Trauma everybody should be familiar With. Levi we've done a

421
00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:37.480
<v Speaker 4>two part series With levi here on the. Show he came,

422
00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:40.640
<v Speaker 4>on talked about a lot of his sasquatch, experiences and

423
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.359
<v Speaker 4>then we got into some of THE ufo. Stuff so

424
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Speaker 4>you guys can go back and listen to some of

425
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:46.640
<v Speaker 4>those episodes where we've Had levi on the show in the.

426
00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:50.039
<v Speaker 4>Past here's an interesting. QUESTION i don't. Know it doesn't

427
00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:53.400
<v Speaker 4>seem like it happened during that daytime, sighting but this

428
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.000
<v Speaker 4>is a question that comes up. Often it's a couple

429
00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.880
<v Speaker 4>of things. Here people often describe this sixth sense that

430
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.599
<v Speaker 4>they have a feeling like they're being watched or they're

431
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.680
<v Speaker 4>aware of a presence before they actually saw. Anything, again

432
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:09.920
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't sound like it happened during that daytime, encounter

433
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.839
<v Speaker 4>but have you had that experience at? All and here's

434
00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:16.519
<v Speaker 4>the other thing that typically goes along with that is

435
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:20.039
<v Speaker 4>there seems to be this animal reaction in the area

436
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 4>when these things are, around, birds, insects other wildlife seems

437
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 4>to completely go. Silent, again it may not have happened

438
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.160
<v Speaker 4>during that particular, experience but have you had those kind

439
00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:32.000
<v Speaker 4>of experiences in the past where you felt like you

440
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.160
<v Speaker 4>were having in this moment where you were being watched

441
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.000
<v Speaker 4>or there was a presence around, you and or have

442
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.559
<v Speaker 4>you had the experience where everything seems to go silent

443
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:43.480
<v Speaker 4>in the area and you get this ominous feeling of

444
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:47.759
<v Speaker 4>something's in the area besides another. Person, yeah AND i.

445
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Don't know what to think about that. SILENCE i know

446
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:53.599
<v Speaker 2>it's quoted a lot out there That davis pretty, quiet

447
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.079
<v Speaker 2>but there's so many times i'm out When i'm, searching

448
00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>it hits that, quiet thinking does that mean there's something out?

449
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:05.720
<v Speaker 2>There But i'm getting no other Vi SO i downplayed

450
00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>a silent your natural sirent. THING i think another. Nature

451
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>that's just how some areas go with the critters that

452
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.759
<v Speaker 2>are there at that. TIME i have had the eerie,

453
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:19.119
<v Speaker 2>feeling but not BECAUSE i think they're, there that Because

454
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:23.039
<v Speaker 2>i'm viewing something that really can't be explained any other

455
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>way other than sat. SQUAD i found it like a kill.

456
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:31.799
<v Speaker 2>BOX i don't know what it, was but a big,

457
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:36.039
<v Speaker 2>tree maybe a couple foot, caliber and it was suspended

458
00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:39.440
<v Speaker 2>about three and a half feet above the ground between two,

459
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 2>trees so it had to blood defense, line so it

460
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>was on the lower side and on one side was

461
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:48.680
<v Speaker 2>a drop off to a crick so that was an affected,

462
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.920
<v Speaker 2>barrier so if an animal was coming over the, hill

463
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:53.160
<v Speaker 2>he couldn't.

464
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:53.279
<v Speaker 3>Go.

465
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Left to the right was a lot of, trees so

466
00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 2>it was easier walking on this. Path we'd go down

467
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and at the bottom where that tree hang was two

468
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:10.200
<v Speaker 2>cottonwood trees where anything could have. Hid so the only

469
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.200
<v Speaker 2>way out of that area it would be the walk

470
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:18.160
<v Speaker 2>right by those cottonwood. Trees and WHEN i spit there

471
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:23.160
<v Speaker 2>and realize again no, proof it just could be active,

472
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>imagination but it sure looks like a functional hunting trap to.

473
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Me and another TIME i saw a tree hang or

474
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.519
<v Speaker 2>probably a foot and a half guy in their fifteen

475
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.839
<v Speaker 2>two tree section hung up in trees like fifteen feet

476
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:40.440
<v Speaker 2>above the ground between three, trees AND i just stare at.

477
00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>THEM i live In Tornado, alley that there's no other

478
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:48.680
<v Speaker 2>damage in the area from. TORNADOES i just feel that

479
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't be present, there maybe not in that moment

480
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.000
<v Speaker 2>that this is their turf And i'm walking through. It

481
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>but NOW i haven't felt that emotional buzz now the

482
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.640
<v Speaker 2>mind in the dark when you're by yourself in my.

483
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Area i've been down there once just to see IF

484
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 2>i could do, it or about MIDNIGHT i went. OUT

485
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.440
<v Speaker 2>i just wanted to set and. LISTEN i THINK i

486
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 2>gifted something to which that whole concept is learning the mold.

487
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:21.640
<v Speaker 2>MAN i stayed there for a half hour THAT i

488
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 2>had to do that could easily just be freshman. Night

489
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 2>and it's one thing to go out with the group

490
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 2>at THESE vfr. ROUTINGS i feel impervious standing bone as a,

491
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:36.640
<v Speaker 2>group but when it's just you and nobody knows you're out,

492
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:39.720
<v Speaker 2>there these things are. There and this was off, road

493
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 2>so it could have been in their living.

494
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 4>ROOM i can definitely. Relate i've shared my experiences here

495
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.519
<v Speaker 4>on the. Property the first thing we had that we

496
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:50.720
<v Speaker 4>experienced was, vocalizations And i've talked about. It i'm not

497
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 4>going to get into the weeds on, it but we

498
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Speaker 4>heard them from a mile, away or at least that's

499
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.200
<v Speaker 4>WHAT i was thinking was. Happening it appeared to be

500
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.039
<v Speaker 4>a mile of play us. Away and THEN i heard

501
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.039
<v Speaker 4>it from forty or fifty yards from our house in

502
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 4>the woods. Here and the first thing people, said did

503
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 4>you go out and check it? Out And i'm like.

504
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:14.480
<v Speaker 4>NO i literally stopped doing night hikes on the property after.

505
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 4>That encounter three plus years, ago and people are, like

506
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 4>you're looking for. Bigfoot, yeah But i'm also. SMART i

507
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.880
<v Speaker 4>have AN iq above. EIGHTY i am not going in

508
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:29.799
<v Speaker 4>the woods close to something that was clearly as large

509
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.039
<v Speaker 4>as whatever this was that made that. Vocalization SO i

510
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.480
<v Speaker 4>think sometimes it's better to be smart about the situation

511
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 4>than to go running. In AND i, too like you

512
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:41.599
<v Speaker 4>used to go out in the woods and do night,

513
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 4>hikes AND i would sit down in areas on the,

514
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 4>property pretty deep in the woods and listen to the.

515
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.960
<v Speaker 4>Nightlife you sit there for twenty thirty minutes and. LISTEN

516
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:53.240
<v Speaker 4>i don't do that. Anymore SO i totally get. It

517
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 4>and for people who think they would do, THAT i

518
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:58.480
<v Speaker 4>challenge you right, now if you can go into a

519
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.279
<v Speaker 4>secluded area And i'm not talkingalking about a city, Park

520
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 4>i'm talking in a secluded area in the woods by,

521
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 4>yourself in the middle of the night and sit there

522
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:10.960
<v Speaker 4>for thirty minutes. ALONE i think you're going to see

523
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 4>What john AND i are talking about here and what

524
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.319
<v Speaker 4>it feels like to do, that because, HONESTLY i think

525
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 4>very few people ever experience. That i'll just leave it.

526
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.319
<v Speaker 5>At that and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to

527
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:29.079
<v Speaker 5>See we'll be right back after these. Messages it is

528
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:30.839
<v Speaker 5>one thing to go out with a couple of people

529
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:35.519
<v Speaker 5>or somebody. Else one other person is completely different than

530
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:40.839
<v Speaker 5>being totally isolated in an area where these creatures could

531
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.880
<v Speaker 5>be very close. By SO i challenge, anybody if you

532
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.640
<v Speaker 5>think that you can do, better or you think you're

533
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 5>braver than the average, beyer go find a secluded spot

534
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.039
<v Speaker 5>in the middle of the woods and sit there for

535
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.240
<v Speaker 5>thirty minutes by yourself and listen to the nightlife and

536
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.440
<v Speaker 5>see how you feel about it after you do.

537
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>That rpert production to that, WAS i don't do so

538
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>much backpacking. Anymore i'm just getting old That i've done

539
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>some solo backpacking in watertoon mountains in Northwest, arkansas AND

540
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>i was just starting my big foot looking around at that,

541
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>time BUT i was not looking for evidence at that.

542
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>TIME i remember my first time out by myself so

543
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>far away from. HOME i was. COCKY i THOUGHT i

544
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>can do, This i've got the skill, set blah blah.

545
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Blah but when that sun goes, down and like you,

546
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.440
<v Speaker 2>say you're in the middle of, nowhere there's nobody to

547
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 2>call for, hell that little child that all of us

548
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:39.319
<v Speaker 2>have still in us wakens, up what was that? Noise

549
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>what's that? NOISE i got over that a. Lot, however

550
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>that next TIME i did a, SOLO i had something

551
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 2>come up and sniff my tent right by my. Head good.

552
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.079
<v Speaker 2>NIGHT i was just close to nodding. Off i'm in

553
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 2>that stage where you're. Paralyzed you can't, move but your

554
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>ears are still. Working in the long book by The Trails,

555
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>shelter it said that they then frequent at midnight by

556
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 2>a black bear that comes. Around so could have been,

557
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>That or it's a sasquatchy, area so it could have been.

558
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.960
<v Speaker 2>That you grow from those experiences and you find the

559
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>woods knock going to kill, you even though you can

560
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 2>account for everything that happens out.

561
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.880
<v Speaker 4>MORE i know where you were before your. Encounter you

562
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:26.880
<v Speaker 4>talked about finding foot, Branch you found tree, structures tree,

563
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:29.119
<v Speaker 4>breaks tree, hangs those kind of. Things SO i know

564
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 4>where you were before that encounter where you actually got

565
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 4>to see one of these. Things but did that encounter

566
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 4>where you actually saw this creature and once you processed

567
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 4>that and, said, YEAH i THINK i had an encounter

568
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 4>WHERE i saw a, sasquatch did that change the way

569
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.960
<v Speaker 4>that you felt before your, encounter or how did you

570
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.720
<v Speaker 4>reconcile or did you have to reconcile those old beliefs

571
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.519
<v Speaker 4>versus what you believed after you actually laid eyes on

572
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:52.839
<v Speaker 4>one of these.

573
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Creatures there was no in concept of HOW i think About,

574
00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>sasquat but it did make me think of the, sudd

575
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.519
<v Speaker 2>the a lout more. Stereos it spurred me. ON i

576
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>want to expand my sound recordings efforts up here In.

577
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>KARNSAS i want to pursue it some. More and there's no,

578
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:13.359
<v Speaker 2>reason since it's just me and my dog, now WHY

579
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 2>i can't go on more outings and. Explore so it's

580
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 2>encouraged me to up my.

581
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.279
<v Speaker 4>GAME i think he alluded to this, earlier BUT i

582
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 4>want to just make sure we get it on the.

583
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 4>Record do you think this thing that you saw was

584
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 4>aware of? You do you think it was curious and

585
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:34.400
<v Speaker 4>different or was it trying to communicate to you in

586
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.599
<v Speaker 4>some way by showing? Itself because there are PEOPLE i

587
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 4>don't necessarily ascribe to this, personally But i've been in

588
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 4>situations where WHEN i had my encounters last, Summer Ryan,

589
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 4>rpggombskie who was at the, conference you got to Meet.

590
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:52.400
<v Speaker 4>Ryan ryan felt very strongly about the group of people

591
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.200
<v Speaker 4>that were together, there that was gathered in that particular,

592
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.759
<v Speaker 4>moment and he feels very strongly that we probably would

593
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.119
<v Speaker 4>not have had the experience that we had that night

594
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.559
<v Speaker 4>had it not been with those. PEOPLE i think that

595
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 4>GOES i dare to say it pushes towards the high

596
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.079
<v Speaker 4>strangeness or the woo part of the subject for me

597
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 4>to think that. Way But i'm. Curious do you think

598
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:19.280
<v Speaker 4>that is something that is possible with these, creatures that

599
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.440
<v Speaker 4>it was showing itself to you for a specific, reason

600
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.599
<v Speaker 4>or do you think it was just going about its

601
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.760
<v Speaker 4>daily whatever it was, doing and it may not have

602
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:29.199
<v Speaker 4>even been aware that you were watching.

603
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 2>It, Yeah i've heard that line that saw AND i

604
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 2>wondered if he could have just been nice to? Me

605
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 2>By Lettonny, sam we never need any sideways glance to

606
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.280
<v Speaker 2>me at. All even if they are king of the,

607
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 2>forest there's still an animal with limited abilities of processing

608
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Speaker 2>stimuli out. THERE i think play was full with those

609
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.800
<v Speaker 2>four people walking On le's. Curve we just don't. Know

610
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>i'll go where the evidence shows. Me on that level of,

611
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.360
<v Speaker 2>strangeness there's more. Too i'm just question, blood But i'm

612
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>not actively looking at the blue factor that when it presents,

613
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 2>Itself i'm going to process of MENLINE i heard an

614
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>example of was Either guts Or. Niese a sad story

615
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 2>coming in and they thought they were landing on a

616
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 2>frozen lake and it ended up being a Frozen walmart parking.

617
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Lot really, sad and they came in AND i don't

618
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 2>know how many, died but it was a whole flock

619
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:29.199
<v Speaker 2>coming there and they got killed coming in on. Asphalt

620
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:33.039
<v Speaker 2>so you think the native world is properly dowt, there

621
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:37.320
<v Speaker 2>but mistakes happened when there just creatures with the brain

622
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 2>that can't process. Everything very.

623
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:42.800
<v Speaker 4>True this is something that's very personal to, me AND

624
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.559
<v Speaker 4>i want to ask you this the place of your first,

625
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:48.880
<v Speaker 4>sighting have you felt drawn or pulled back to that?

626
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Area have you wanted to go back for a myriad of.

627
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 4>Reasons it could be just because you felt pulled back

628
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.599
<v Speaker 4>to that, area or do you think it's a possibility

629
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 4>that you could have another encounter in the area where

630
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 4>you had this encounter and you got to see this.

631
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Thing Because i've experienced that since last, SUMMER i have

632
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 4>wanted to go back to The Pacific, northwest Specifically Washington,

633
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.920
<v Speaker 4>state WHERE i had my three encounters last. Summer i'm

634
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 4>actually going out on expedition at some point in, time

635
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 4>probably next, spring With Less stroud Survivor, man And i'm

636
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 4>Pushing less to go back to that particular. AREA i

637
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 4>Think less wants to take the expedition up To. CANADA

638
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.920
<v Speaker 4>i want to go back To Washington, state in the

639
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.360
<v Speaker 4>very area WHERE i saw these things three times in

640
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 4>two days last. Summer have you felt that draw that

641
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:36.440
<v Speaker 4>has pulled you back to that original location or do

642
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 4>you think you got just as good a chance going

643
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:40.599
<v Speaker 4>out and looking for these things in your backyard or

644
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:41.360
<v Speaker 4>somewhere closer to.

645
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:43.880
<v Speaker 2>HOME i do want to get back to darn, area

646
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.119
<v Speaker 2>but that sighting just made me want to look more

647
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:52.800
<v Speaker 2>here In. Kansas all nice stuff has been at one

648
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 2>of the reservoirs here And i've set my sound recorder

649
00:36:56.119 --> 00:37:00.519
<v Speaker 2>out just a month and a half. Ago and another

650
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 2>one THAT i was camping at with my brother and

651
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>his in. LAWS i found a neat spot three and

652
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:10.719
<v Speaker 2>a half miles upstream a feeder creek into this. Reservoir

653
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.519
<v Speaker 2>very few. FARMS i wouldn't say it promote THAT i

654
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:18.679
<v Speaker 2>set up the recorder at a bridge crossing SO i

655
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.400
<v Speaker 2>can hear any car that goes, by AND i set it,

656
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 2>out and THEN i went back the next day and

657
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>got it and listened to. IT i got my first

658
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 2>tree break and, fall not a limb break, off this

659
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:33.480
<v Speaker 2>sucker there are imitated the sound OR i don't know

660
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 2>what an EXPLANATION i would. DEEP i have a big

661
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:41.039
<v Speaker 2>tree falling and a bay ass rock thrown into the.

662
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Creek there's a very deep, kick and there was no

663
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 2>car that went, by and tree knocks from time to

664
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:52.320
<v Speaker 2>time on a regular. Basis so long way of, Saying

665
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.679
<v Speaker 2>i've looked at two, reservoirs and out of the two,

666
00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Reservoirs i've got suggests of evidence that they're. There so

667
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 2>it's got me wanting to go out to more. Reservoirs

668
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:07.679
<v Speaker 2>look at the ground in terms of topology and, hydrology

669
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 2>try to figure out IF i was a sasquatch and

670
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the gorgeous those are Of missouri Or oklahoma Or. Arkansas

671
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>crossing that border in The tansas and follow the drainages

672
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 2>up and just see if they're. Suggested noises being made

673
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 2>calls In, kansas it's, flat there's nothing there and there.

674
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Aren't batman And sasquatch, REPORTED i want to explore all

675
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the more What i've got here at home while still

676
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>going out on THE dfro. STUFF i left going To

677
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.039
<v Speaker 2>nam and shooting the ball with everybody else seeing what

678
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 2>the latest theories or the hypotheses. On they're really not,

679
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.800
<v Speaker 2>theories SO i wanted to do. Both but that area

680
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 2>was a good, area AND i would like to get

681
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 2>back and see if there's a chapter. Two IF i

682
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.639
<v Speaker 2>told somebody went on at the camp out from the,

683
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 2>CONFERENCE i met another person like me there once he

684
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 2>heard my. STORY a few wants to go down to that.

685
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Spot i'm trying his little lot down all the more

686
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 2>power room for. Everybody let me ask you.

687
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 4>This this is something that's come up many times over

688
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:11.599
<v Speaker 4>the years on the, show AND i ask people this

689
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 4>a lot in. PERSON i don't talk about it a

690
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.280
<v Speaker 4>lot on the, show BUT i think it's a valid

691
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:19.679
<v Speaker 4>question because there are a lot of skeptical people out.

692
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 4>THERE i was very skeptical about these creatures for. Years

693
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.199
<v Speaker 4>that skeptical part of me is completely. Gone Now i'm

694
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 4>only skeptical about. People i'm skeptical about the experiences that people.

695
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:33.320
<v Speaker 4>Have the evidence that they put. Forward i'm no longer

696
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.519
<v Speaker 4>skeptical about the existence of. Bigfoot let me ask you,

697
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:40.360
<v Speaker 4>this have you ever hesitated to share your story out

698
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:43.519
<v Speaker 4>of the fear of, Ridicule and if, so what finally

699
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 4>pushed you to speak? Up because there are people who

700
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.960
<v Speaker 4>are skeptical listening right. Now AND i guess the second

701
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.880
<v Speaker 4>part of that would be what detail or emotion from your,

702
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.559
<v Speaker 4>experience or just anything in general about your sighting and

703
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.559
<v Speaker 4>your encounter would you like for them to understand about

704
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 4>what you experienced Got i'm getting deep. HERE i KNOW

705
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:06.039
<v Speaker 4>i have had.

706
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Some hesitatings from the. Sharing it's a select group of

707
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:11.039
<v Speaker 2>people THAT i talk to about, it and you can

708
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 2>get a feeling pretty fast for. People but it strikes

709
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 2>close to. Home the, naysayers like my family doesn't know

710
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>what to do with this fact That john says you've

711
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.360
<v Speaker 2>seen it a. Sasquatch john is an honest, person but

712
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:29.480
<v Speaker 2>yet there really isn't something like a. Sasquatch so where

713
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.719
<v Speaker 2>do you put? That BUT i tell all my family about.

714
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:34.960
<v Speaker 2>It you're my test case with getting it out there

715
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 2>That i've seen. It i'm a retired electrical, engineer SO

716
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 2>i don't have an employer THAT i have to be

717
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:45.599
<v Speaker 2>sensitive about being laugh out of a. JOB i really

718
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.320
<v Speaker 2>don't worry what other people have to. SAY i don't

719
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:53.400
<v Speaker 2>want to feed into their making fun of. Stuff so

720
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>that's Why i'm more hesitant to bring it up if

721
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.440
<v Speaker 2>they're going to laugh at. It but that's they're. Predative

722
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 2>They rives loved her the, beasts and she had a math,

723
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 2>degree taught biology and math in high. School it was

724
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:13.199
<v Speaker 2>out of her comfort. Zone she just, said sabsquatch does not. Exist,

725
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Therefore i'd come home excited that LOOK i found short of.

726
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:21.039
<v Speaker 2>PICTURES i found these. Tracks, no sabsquatch doesn't, exist therefore

727
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 2>those are not tracks of a. Sasquat she was so

728
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 2>certin of Her arduy, THERE i laugh about, it but

729
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.840
<v Speaker 2>YET i was still disappointed with her. Education she had

730
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.960
<v Speaker 2>her blinders on when people just knew, her and even my.

731
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Mom my mom will say that she recognizes there's a

732
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 2>chance that they. Exist that she'd have to see the evidence,

733
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.400
<v Speaker 2>herself AND i give. Her none of them have laughed at.

734
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Me maybe When i'm not, there they might, say, oh

735
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.800
<v Speaker 2>that genre just off on this bigfoot stuff, again that's.

736
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay that kind of leads me to my next. Question

737
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 4>having had your, experience has that changed your relationship with,

738
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:04.079
<v Speaker 4>fear your, faith the, unknown any of those things at?

739
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:06.239
<v Speaker 4>All has it changed? You BECAUSE i know for, me

740
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.960
<v Speaker 4>it's made me question a lot of things THAT i

741
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:13.000
<v Speaker 4>didn't necessarily question BEFORE i had my encounters Because i'd

742
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 4>never seen something face to face from ten feet away

743
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.639
<v Speaker 4>that wasn't supposed to. Exist has that changed for, you

744
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 4>whether it be a relationship with, fear of faith or

745
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:21.519
<v Speaker 4>the unknown in.

746
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 2>General, no and maybe it. SHOULD i find That i'm

747
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:29.679
<v Speaker 2>just pretty casual out there in The. Boonies MAYBE i

748
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 2>should have more of us. HERE i know there's a

749
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 2>sector of our community say they're just a big the

750
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:41.599
<v Speaker 2>reverent forest, people AND i know it's probably not that.

751
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Simple and then there's the they five as four one

752
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 2>one stories that you can't explain. Away on the other

753
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>side of, that they could be disious killers and we don't.

754
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:57.800
<v Speaker 2>KNOW i like my. GUNS i bought a handgun that

755
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:01.400
<v Speaker 2>would give me a fighting, chance BUT i don't take

756
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.519
<v Speaker 2>it WITH i got in the day WHEN i just

757
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 2>wasn't sure of what we're dealing with, here and we

758
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 2>still don't know what we're dealing. With BUT i just

759
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:14.280
<v Speaker 2>don't feel the need to pack even though there's a human.

760
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Element for, sure we have left people out, here we

761
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:23.239
<v Speaker 2>found their. Skill assume it's not all. Safe then we

762
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 2>do have Mountain, lion WHICH i visualize what that would

763
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:31.079
<v Speaker 2>be career encounter one at night when it's an ambush

764
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:36.119
<v Speaker 2>killer would be just horrendously, Terrible AND i probably couldn't

765
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 2>get a shot off, anyway even if it's a bigfoot

766
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a role that's going to take you. OUT i

767
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.519
<v Speaker 2>think the probability would be getting a successful. Shot offer About,

768
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Neil SO i Guess i'm just not having the fear

769
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:54.119
<v Speaker 2>FACTORS i started. With i'm getting more comfortable with the

770
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:58.159
<v Speaker 2>idea and you hear more of the, encounters and, yeah

771
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>if you didn't expect, it or if you weren't as

772
00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 2>open minded about what you're, experiencing you might think it

773
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 2>was all threatened with. Believier but then now THAT i,

774
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.840
<v Speaker 2>see like when they come into camp in the middle

775
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 2>of the morning and throw stuff around and slap the

776
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:21.400
<v Speaker 2>sides of caverns and, stuff you can see the possible

777
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>playful side of that kind of thumber on their. HOUSE

778
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 2>i just don't have a credible case in my mind

779
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:33.639
<v Speaker 2>of an experience that they were a real threat AND

780
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 2>wha should be popular club. Game SO i Guess i'm

781
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 2>getting more tazzle about. It but if my name disappears out,

782
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 2>there it could be a cautionary tale that you need

783
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 2>to start treating these things.

784
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.679
<v Speaker 4>Serious all, right last, question and this is. INTERESTING i

785
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Think i've never asked anybody this question on the, show

786
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.119
<v Speaker 4>so you're going to be the. First But i'm curious

787
00:44:56.119 --> 00:45:01.039
<v Speaker 4>if you could ask the sasquatch one, question knowing that

788
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 4>A sasquatch has got to be one hundred percent honest with.

789
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.639
<v Speaker 4>YOU i don't know how this communication. Happens maybe it's

790
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 4>through some kind of mind, speak or maybe it's through

791
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 4>samurai chatter or whatever the case may. Be but let's

792
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.000
<v Speaker 4>assume for a second you could communicate with one of these.

793
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:18.039
<v Speaker 4>Things what would be the one question you would ask The?

794
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 4>Sasquatch and why.

795
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:24.000
<v Speaker 5>Stay tuned for More sasquatch out to See we'll be

796
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:25.199
<v Speaker 5>right back after these.

797
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:30.199
<v Speaker 4>Messages that was.

798
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Surprising Needs i'd want to know do you even want

799
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:39.840
<v Speaker 2>to be? Crown or are you fine with The spattern's

800
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:44.159
<v Speaker 2>call where us humans don't know what to? Do that

801
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you could believe or not, believe BECAUSE i don't know

802
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 2>THAT i want to prove that they're. THERE i know they.

803
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:54.519
<v Speaker 2>ARE i don't want to be in one, book bring

804
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:58.119
<v Speaker 2>in a body and prove that mankind has a history

805
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.920
<v Speaker 2>of ruin anything or it gets an involved. With SO

806
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.320
<v Speaker 2>i really don't know that we'd be an ally to.

807
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Them it's much as i'd, like like the indigenous. People

808
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 2>natives have proguessed that they've had solid relationships with, THEM

809
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:18.159
<v Speaker 2>i don't know that our current people can carry on

810
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 2>that kind of the, relationship especially with our military. Structure

811
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:27.039
<v Speaker 2>it's not in their nature to be sharing energies and

812
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.519
<v Speaker 2>powers some heavy. Clong so it might be that they

813
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:33.000
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be crown And i'd just like to

814
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>know they're spending on.

815
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.559
<v Speaker 4>THEM i think that is an excellent, question BECAUSE i tell,

816
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:40.639
<v Speaker 4>you WHEN i first got into, This i've always pushed

817
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.559
<v Speaker 4>for wanting the discovery to, happen AND i think some

818
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:47.360
<v Speaker 4>part of me still wants that to. Happen but the

819
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 4>longer That i've stayed in, this and especially AFTER i

820
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 4>had my own encounters that proved to me beyond a

821
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.599
<v Speaker 4>shadow of doubt that there are one hundred percent REAL

822
00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:59.599
<v Speaker 4>i frankly don't care about that as much anymore AS

823
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:02.159
<v Speaker 4>i used. To AND i, too like, you think that

824
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.039
<v Speaker 4>when we put our fingers into the pie and we

825
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.159
<v Speaker 4>get the too many cooks in the kitchen and the human,

826
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:12.840
<v Speaker 4>realm bad things tend to happen to whatever it is

827
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.599
<v Speaker 4>that we're trying to quote unquote. Help so the MORE

828
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<v Speaker 4>i literally every, DAY i tend to move further and

829
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 4>further away from the push for, discovery it's become more

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<v Speaker 4>to me about continuing to document other people's, encounters BECAUSE

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<v Speaker 4>i think up to and including when these things are

832
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 4>eventually hopefully recognized by, science that's the most important thing

833
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 4>THAT i can do in the research and pushing the

834
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 4>ball down the field and continuing to educate people in

835
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.960
<v Speaker 4>the community and talk about these encounters and get these

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00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 4>stories out there for. People, HONESTLY i used to think

837
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<v Speaker 4>that was the norm for. EVERYBODY i thought everybody who

838
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.000
<v Speaker 4>was in this wants them. Discovered, no you start having

839
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:57.920
<v Speaker 4>conversations with people and they have their very in my,

840
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 4>opinion valid, reasons and a lot of, cases very much

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<v Speaker 4>like you, Said i'm not so sure THAT i want

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00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:07.119
<v Speaker 4>the humans to be. INVOLVED i think they're fine on their.

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00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:09.800
<v Speaker 4>OWN i don't think they need anything from, us AND

844
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<v Speaker 4>i could be totally. Wrong they could be completely, endangered

845
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:15.199
<v Speaker 4>and without us stepping, in they may be gone in

846
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<v Speaker 4>the next. DECADE i have no. IDEA i don't think

847
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.400
<v Speaker 4>that's the, case and if it, WERE i would feel

848
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.599
<v Speaker 4>horrible THAT i didn't do my part to help prevent

849
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 4>them from completely. Disappearing but my gut tells me they're

850
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:33.480
<v Speaker 4>fine without. Us they don't need human beings interceding in any, way, shape,

851
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:35.719
<v Speaker 4>form or, fashion and the best thing that we could

852
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:38.559
<v Speaker 4>do is just leave them alone and leave them. Be

853
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<v Speaker 4>and of course there are those of. Us i've had my,

854
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:44.960
<v Speaker 4>experiences BUT i want to have more experiences with. THEM

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00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 4>i wanted to get closer AFTER i had my initial,

856
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:50.400
<v Speaker 4>experiences and there's some part of me who still wants

857
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 4>to go out and have more of those. Experiences And

858
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:57.119
<v Speaker 4>i'm even torn about that because some people think that's. Harassment,

859
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:01.360
<v Speaker 4>right we're harassing them in their, environment and even That

860
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:06.360
<v Speaker 4>i've started to think more about since my, encounters And

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<v Speaker 4>i'm mending the way THAT i approach the research HOW

862
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 4>i do WHAT i. DO i don't go out and

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<v Speaker 4>do as many vocalizations and tree knocks and things THAT

864
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:17.360
<v Speaker 4>i used to do that can or could be disruptive

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<v Speaker 4>to these. Creatures that's just my personal take on, it

866
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<v Speaker 4>AND i wouldn't be in this position HAD i not

867
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<v Speaker 4>gotten to see them with my own eyes last. Summer

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<v Speaker 4>SO i think a lot of people have to go through.

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<v Speaker 4>This it is certainly an evolution for everybody who gets into,

870
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:34.679
<v Speaker 4>this no matter where they start on their. Journey it

871
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 4>is a journey for, everybody and it's different for, everybody

872
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:39.559
<v Speaker 4>AND i think the best thing we could do as

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00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.440
<v Speaker 4>a community is just be respectful of where everybody is

874
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.559
<v Speaker 4>in their journey and try our best to do whatever

875
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.000
<v Speaker 4>it is we're doing to push the research down the.

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<v Speaker 4>Field and part of that is people like you who

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<v Speaker 4>are willing to come on shows like this and share their.

878
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:55.639
<v Speaker 4>Experiences so from the bottom of my, HEART i thank

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<v Speaker 4>you for coming on and sharing your experience and this

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00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.159
<v Speaker 4>being the first place that you've chosen to do do,

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<v Speaker 4>that because, that to me is very. Impactful AND i

882
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<v Speaker 4>take that very seriously because it's your, story it's your,

883
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:10.239
<v Speaker 4>encounter and for you to trust me with, that in

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00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.320
<v Speaker 4>my opinion as an. Honor SO i thank you for

885
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:14.280
<v Speaker 4>coming on the show and sharing your experiences of had

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<v Speaker 4>a blast talking to, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right for getting me to, chance or if they get

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of hate, Mail i'll be sending hate. Mail

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<v Speaker 2>VIEW i don't think. So i'm expecting it a good.

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<v Speaker 4>Experience it definitely will. Be my audience is. Fantastic they're

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<v Speaker 4>definitely gonna love your. Experiences that's what the show is all.

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<v Speaker 3>About in a back people Think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting at pepping my giving a puppying a puppy