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<v Speaker 1>I find myself in a very peculiar position. I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in defending Jerome Powell, which I never thought I

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<v Speaker 1>would do in my life, you know, carry for the

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<v Speaker 1>life of me. I don't understand what the administration, who

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<v Speaker 1>I support, is thinking when they say they want to

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<v Speaker 1>fire Powell and cut interest rates to one percent.

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<v Speaker 3>And welcome. You are listening to and watching the Financial

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<v Speaker 3>Survival Network. I'm your host. Carrie Let's Michael Pento is

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<v Speaker 3>on vacation, although as long as Michael has a phone,

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<v Speaker 3>he's never really on vacation. In fact, he manages hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of millions of dollars, not with computers but with his iPhone.

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<v Speaker 3>If you could believe it, that's how easy he's got

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<v Speaker 3>the job down to.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Michael, Yeah, I'm in a beautiful Belmore New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>in the upstairs apartment of a close friend, and I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot we were doing these interview But I'm here, here,

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<v Speaker 1>my athletic freaky shirt on, and I'm ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, you know what Woody Allen said, ninety percent

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<v Speaker 3>of life has showing up, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to show up at the pick a

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<v Speaker 1>ball courts in maybe about a half an hour, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. I'll say a prayer for you, because everybody

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<v Speaker 3>that I know, except for one or two people, has

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<v Speaker 3>sustained fairly significant injuries from a very low impact, low

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<v Speaker 3>effort sport with jarring lateral movements, studden stops running backwards

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't know how you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hey yeah, I'm so Just to digress for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>I had preci gift significant concussion from doing a Frankenstein

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<v Speaker 1>walk backwards and soup pine on my head, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I popped a calf muscle and now I'm nursing a

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<v Speaker 1>broken tendon in my foot as well as of displaced bones. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>pick a bowl is very safe. I suggest everybody do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just put a hell out. I think it's about as

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<v Speaker 3>safe as the bright Line train, you know. Just talking

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<v Speaker 3>a little Florida biz I wrote an article about this,

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<v Speaker 3>The bright Line is unsafe at any speed. We thought

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<v Speaker 3>there were only one hundred twenty six deaths bright line

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<v Speaker 3>related since twenty seventeen, but the Miami Herald just came

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<v Speaker 3>out with an expose. It's actually one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 3>six deaths. So they've been covering it up. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not so much worried about the carnage on the tracks

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<v Speaker 3>in Florida. I'm worried about the carnage and the tracks

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of Wall and Broad Street, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the echoes building at the at the Federal Reserve.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, what's what's going on here with the Federal Reserve.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like they got some pretty luxurious digs there.

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<v Speaker 3>Central banking is good business, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I find myself in a very peculiar position. I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in defending Jerome Powell, which I never thought I

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<v Speaker 1>would do in my in my life, you know, carry

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<v Speaker 1>for the life of me. I don't understand what the administration,

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<v Speaker 1>who I support, is thinking when they say they want

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<v Speaker 1>to fire Powell and cut interest rates to one percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the curve the funds rate is for four and

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter to four and a half, So it's just sowing. Know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about one percent, which is an over you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a three hundred and twenty five basis point rate cut immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess inflation that has wiped out the middle class

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<v Speaker 1>isn't good enough when you have sixty percent of Americans

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<v Speaker 1>that have a networth of one thousand dollars or less.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty big zero? What are we doing here? But do

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<v Speaker 1>we want to make home prices go up even faster

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<v Speaker 1>and make them eve expensive? I don't understand it. So

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<v Speaker 1>on what premise would you cut interest rates? Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>the unemployment rate is is? I think it's four point

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<v Speaker 1>one or four point two percent is historically very very

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<v Speaker 1>very low. The stock market is at an all time

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<v Speaker 1>record high valuation, home price to income ratios are an

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<v Speaker 1>all time high. Credits reds are extremely tight. Financial conditions

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<v Speaker 1>are extremely loose. We're not in a recession. GDP growth

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<v Speaker 1>bit over two percent, and inflation is inflation carry has

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<v Speaker 1>been above the Fed's asinine two percent target for fifty months.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>If I just told you, what if you just heard that,

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<v Speaker 1>if you came from Mars and said, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the federal reserves shorter is to maintain you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a level prices, you know, stable prices. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>told you all those things and you and I also

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<v Speaker 1>said that the Fed has missed its target to the north,

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<v Speaker 1>it's two percent target to the north for fifty months,

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<v Speaker 1>and that target is moving further away.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Inflation rate is moving further away from the target two.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think the conversation would be. It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be when are you going to cut rates? It shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>certainly shouldn't be when you're going to lower rates to

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<v Speaker 1>one percent. It's gonna be when you're going to raise

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, and really historically, going back, you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>far back as you can go, really, the rates are

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<v Speaker 3>not out of line. They're kind of normalized. Now, if

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<v Speaker 3>we need zero percent interest to keep this economy going,

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<v Speaker 3>then we've got a real problem here, don't we. No,

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<v Speaker 3>we not.

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<v Speaker 1>If we have a real problem. We have a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>credit bubble.

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<v Speaker 4>We have an an unbelievable equity bubble two hundred Well,

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<v Speaker 4>the total market cap of equities is now two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and twelve percent of.

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<v Speaker 1>GDP, so it's more than double the size of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire US economy. Now, the normal relationship there's around ninety

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred percent, that's just normal. So that means

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<v Speaker 1>stock prices could drop fifty percent and still be above

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<v Speaker 1>valuation historical valuations. That's how that's how crazy. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you also have you know, the Cape ratio, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that I think it's at almost twenty seven or thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot where it was anyway, it's astronomically high. It's

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<v Speaker 1>historically speaking, pryces deals ratio is three risk premiums are

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<v Speaker 1>negative in the risk premium the inverse of the pe ratio, right, Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>get your earnings yield, and the earnings yield is less

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<v Speaker 1>than what you can earn in a T bill. This

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<v Speaker 1>is all highly unusual record low dividend yields. So the

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<v Speaker 1>stock market's in an epic bubble. Home prices are the

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<v Speaker 1>most expensive they've ever been in history, even relate in

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<v Speaker 1>relation to incomes. And we have a massive credit bubble

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<v Speaker 1>when there's like, you know, trillions of dollars of things

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<v Speaker 1>like private credit, which hardly ever existed before, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in the previous decades. Now, there's a whole cottage industry

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<v Speaker 1>of businesses that can't get loans from a bank or

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<v Speaker 1>float corporate paper, so they get loans from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the shadow banking system. Yeah, that's a huge problem these

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<v Speaker 1>that's a huge when we have when not the not if,

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<v Speaker 1>when we have a recession, because the the the business

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<v Speaker 1>cycle hasn't been repealed. When we have the next versus

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<v Speaker 1>when we have the next credit crisis or recession, this

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<v Speaker 1>is when reality is going to hit. So it's not if,

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<v Speaker 1>it's when I have a timing model that lets me

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<v Speaker 1>know when to get out. I'm been, I've been you

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<v Speaker 1>know in a you know, I have a long short strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>so mostly long, sometimes short. The past few years mostly

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<v Speaker 1>went out long, but holding our nose because we know

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<v Speaker 1>that if you're gonna be one of those people, one

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<v Speaker 1>of those automatic buy and hold dollar course to averaging

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<v Speaker 1>funding their four to one k in a target date fund,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna be down thirty five percent in a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks time, not a few weeks from now, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a few weeks, a truncated period of time, when

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<v Speaker 1>the when the poop hits the bed, we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>down thirty percent in a very quick period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're gonna panic and call your administrator for

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<v Speaker 1>your four to one K plant and say move my

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<v Speaker 1>plan into cash. And that's what market goes down fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 3>But haven't people been programmed to not behave that way?

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<v Speaker 1>They have been inculcated through the decades to just buy

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<v Speaker 1>and hold. But Carrie uh, stock ownership among Americans has

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<v Speaker 1>never been higher, and the stocked ownership is concentrated mostly

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<v Speaker 1>in people who are my age or older. So you

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<v Speaker 1>went around in their fifties, like fifties, early sixties, or

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<v Speaker 1>in their retirement ages. Not not not in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>year old, not in the mean stock people. It's our age, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>approaching retirement or in retirement. Kerry. When they're down thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent in their portfolio, I don't know the exact number,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's probably around. That's my guest to mint. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna exist because they cannot see. Then it becomes what

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<v Speaker 1>you just said, it's a it's an existential crisis. I

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<v Speaker 1>am not gonna be their wife is going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>them from probably being a little sexist here, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a man, your wife's going to tell you, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not canceling my trip to Europe and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>selling my my lake house. You can sell. You're gonna sell,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna sell now and will wait for it

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<v Speaker 1>to settle down. That is going to happen, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be synergistic. It's gonna be a death spiral

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. It's just it's just a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>mean reversion. If you believe in nature, heats vacuums, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a mean Listen, this is one or two things

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna happen mathematically certain. Either stought pressures are gonna crash,

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<v Speaker 1>so the ratio that you know they're not the enumerator

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<v Speaker 1>matches the denominator, or they're going to stay where they

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<v Speaker 1>are for a decade not could not do anything until

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<v Speaker 1>the denominator catches up. Now, the latter scenario never happens

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<v Speaker 1>in history. It just never has happened before bubbles burst.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't just stay bubblicious for a decade.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, all right, So uh ah, so you got to

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<v Speaker 3>think what should you be doing now because this appears,

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<v Speaker 3>from what you're saying here, Michael, to be inevitable.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you better first of all, if you're you're in

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<v Speaker 1>one of those buy and hold dollar cost averaging rubrics,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to get the hell out of there as

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<v Speaker 1>fast as possible. You got to put yourself in an

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<v Speaker 1>active money managuer. It doesn't have to be me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I mean, let me speak altruistically. Find somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>besides me. I have plenty of money, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of money under management. I don't care. But find

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a rouste a robust model that is in the

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<v Speaker 1>purview of a very honest and experienced money manager. Does

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<v Speaker 1>not have to be me. But do it for your

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<v Speaker 1>own retirement sake.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to do it all right, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>You've worked your entire life to get where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Realize where you are. Realize the triumvirate of bubbles that

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<v Speaker 1>we have unprecedented in history, all three of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and be a historian. See what has happened, not only

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States but around the world. What happens

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<v Speaker 1>to asset prices when they get this this elevated and

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<v Speaker 1>the inculcation the mindset is overwhelming. Where you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to now convince people that there is such thing

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<v Speaker 1>is a business cycle. You have to convince people that

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<v Speaker 1>the FED and the Treasury and the administration can't always

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<v Speaker 1>in the stock market or a steed speed by economy.

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<v Speaker 1>They just lower interest rates and print money. Carry Do

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<v Speaker 1>When you have, when you have over sixty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>See what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>So gold silver, It appears certainly for silver we're on

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<v Speaker 3>looking good for those silver shorts, are they. No. Now

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<v Speaker 1>So I took a nice position in platinum several months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>bit more gold for a very long time too. So

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<v Speaker 1>but you should. You have to get your your hands

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<v Speaker 1>on some of this. And there's a there's a bull

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<v Speaker 1>A rarer, more more rare metal, it's a more precious metal.

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<v Speaker 1>It has some industrial components to it as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>that flip that has flipped. So I would not only

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<v Speaker 1>there's only one thing that's going to happen. There's only

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<v Speaker 1>that stackflation like we've never before imagined. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>to have a credit crisis. The playbook is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be deployed because it's worked all that every time in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. What's the Pavlovian response from the Fed and

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury borrow print spend or it was automatic stabilizers that

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<v Speaker 1>the trillion trillion now it's now it's two trillion. In

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<v Speaker 1>the party times man, in the good times with full

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<v Speaker 1>employment and record a stock market, it's two trillion. So

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<v Speaker 1>when the automatic stabilizers kick in, the unemployment benefits kick in,

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<v Speaker 1>this deficit is going to go between from from two

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<v Speaker 1>when four to six trillion, where's six trillion dollar annual deficit,

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<v Speaker 1>And and that means the money is going to go

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the global financial crisis where you just bail out

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street by taking the banks got their assets bailed

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<v Speaker 1>out from the Fed. Now this is going to go

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<v Speaker 1>right into the hands of the pockets of the people

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<v Speaker 1>through these through the unemployment insurance that they're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>from the Fed, and the helicopter money coming from the Treasury.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna have inflation, not the way they measure it.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop at nine, it's going to go to nineteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's you know, if you that's what you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be prepared for, because if you're saying to yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think I'm gonna I think I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>bond sounds pretty pretty good because the first is only three.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, tell me how you feel about earning five percent

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<v Speaker 1>when inflation is nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a that's an existential problem in and of itself, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Garry inflation core inflation rose to two point nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>year over year coreation, wrote, I mean, then the morons

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<v Speaker 3>Like better than expected because.

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<v Speaker 1>The month over month was a little bit better the core.

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<v Speaker 1>But here the core rate of inflation increased. At the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the form reading was two point seven or

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<v Speaker 1>two point six, it jumped to two point nine core

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<v Speaker 1>inflation year over year. That's that is that is a

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<v Speaker 1>disastrous conversation to have him. Inflation on the core level

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<v Speaker 1>is spiking, and I want to have a scenario where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm firing the central bank so I can put a

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<v Speaker 1>what I would call an obsequious sicko fan, a puppet

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<v Speaker 1>of the president, to put rates at one percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what could possibly get wrong here?

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<v Speaker 1>What happened to that stuff? What would happened to the

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<v Speaker 1>housing market? Let me hear here's the scenario. The scenario

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<v Speaker 1>He cuts rates to one percent. And what what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when the long end of the bond market interest rates

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<v Speaker 1>go ballistic? I mean, if that can control the overnight

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<v Speaker 1>interbank lending rate, and the money markets will will trade

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<v Speaker 1>in sympathy with that. But let's say, unless they assent

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<v Speaker 1>to buy every single treasury bond issued, like the Bank

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<v Speaker 1>of Japan does, we're gonna have a huge problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the interest rates. And if they do buy everything, we're

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<v Speaker 3>M h yeah, it sounds like we got problems on

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<v Speaker 3>the way here. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, listen, what when you when you abrogate

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<v Speaker 1>free markets. When you say, you know, the free market

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to function. We could just nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>just print some money. Greenspan says, we'll just print some money.

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<v Speaker 1>We have, we have a tool, we have a technology.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need to Why would we Why would we

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<v Speaker 3>Why would we do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because mine supply of gold is limited, and you

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<v Speaker 1>then they came up with the idea we could just

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<v Speaker 1>we could just live in faeryland. We could just back

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<v Speaker 1>our currency with nothing. We'll back it with the taxing

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<v Speaker 1>authority of the US Treasury and the American military complex.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what will Yeah, and then the dollars, you know, crashes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, go look at what the dollar has done

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<v Speaker 1>since nineteen thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's purchasing power.

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<v Speaker 1>And then those people have the nerve to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that they're they're they're they're in charge of protecting the

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<v Speaker 1>purchasing power of the of the currency. That's a comedy routine, Kerry,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is a comedy routine. And you know it's

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<v Speaker 3>that old uh, that old saying. Will Rogers said, every

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<v Speaker 3>time Congress makes a joke, it becomes a law, and

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<v Speaker 3>every time they make a law, it's a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Gary, let me just I have I had this

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<v Speaker 1>written down. I want to make sure when I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about credit bubbles, total non financial US debt as a

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of GDP is higher today than at the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the global financial crisis and the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>Nasdaq crash in two thousand. So current ratio is two

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty seven percent of GDP total non

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<v Speaker 1>financial debt. In two thousand and seven, before the stocks

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<v Speaker 1>it was two hundred and thirty four percent. And in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand that great recession where the NASDAK lost eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent of its value, it was one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent. And the current ratio is two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven percent. That's your credit bubble. That's your credit bubble.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. So there's no way out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't any easy way out of it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna try to hyperinflate their way out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But since we haven't adjustable rate mortgage as a as

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<v Speaker 1>A as our you know, everybody said, hey, Janet Yellen,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you know when interest rates were like aero

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<v Speaker 1>point three on the ten year note, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>like float some thirty year dead out there and finance

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<v Speaker 1>it or maybe even issue a fifty year bond. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the wasn't any appetite for that, But at least

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<v Speaker 1>they should have really loaded up on that lawn kerry.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're gonna, if they're gonna, if Wall Street's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>supply you with a ten year note that's yielding a

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<v Speaker 1>third of one percent, wouldn't you want to lock in

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<v Speaker 1>those that that's a pretty good rate, right right? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what they said, Now we're just gonna do T bills.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do T bills and chill. Well that's now

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<v Speaker 1>you have to roll over those tea bills every single year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what you have. So if if if you

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<v Speaker 1>really want to know the truth as to why President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump wants that interest rate artificially suppressed even further lower,

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<v Speaker 1>is because it would really bring down the interest on

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<v Speaker 1>the debt. Yeah, with no no negative ramifications with housing

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<v Speaker 3>So it's that simple, huh, yeah. So it's it's all

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<v Speaker 3>about rates.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about interest on the debt, which is over

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<v Speaker 1>a trillion dollars already.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see how you see how well doge work?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>The Doge roar into town and they really slashed the

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<v Speaker 1>government slashed everything down. I mean, we're all we're good now, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they decided to cut one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for I was still cutting in theory. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what they cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, those have been run out of town faster than

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<v Speaker 1>the shrve has been run out of town. And they

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<v Speaker 1>should be cutting a trillion dollars per We need to

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<v Speaker 1>cut a trillion dollars per andum to get to that

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<v Speaker 1>magical Scott Besson, you know, three percent. But guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a little bit short. It is about eight hundred

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<v Speaker 3>Just a little, just a little all right? So what

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<v Speaker 3>about bitcoin here?

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<v Speaker 1>Well here, well, you you know you opened the Pandora's

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<v Speaker 1>box here when you talk about Hey, bitcoin, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>liked as as a concept. I hated the I hate

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't buy any of it. Unfortunately, so I've been

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<v Speaker 1>wrong about the direction of this thing. But the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of the bitcoin originally, or cryptocurrencies in general, was, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's outside the purview of government, and it protects

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<v Speaker 1>and it protects you against a falling US dollar. So

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<v Speaker 1>fast forward in a few years, and of course the

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<v Speaker 1>pimps and the hookers on Wall Street would they say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we fall in love what bitcoin? We can make some

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<v Speaker 1>money on this, on this horrified barcode, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's just, you know, all bitcoin is your

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<v Speaker 1>private key is a bunch of letters and numbers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a password that's worth one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen thousand dollars. But okay, let's just let's just talk

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<v Speaker 1>from basically nothing to one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>per unit. But it got there because it's been bastardized

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<v Speaker 1>by Wall Street. They've co opted and corrupted it. So

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<v Speaker 1>now your your decentralized coin that you think you own

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<v Speaker 1>is completely centralized. It can be taken away from you

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<v Speaker 1>capriciously by the government because they actually know exactly who

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<v Speaker 1>you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Wall Street has know your customer rules and anti

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<v Speaker 1>money laundering rules. You own an asset that's pimped by

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street. They know exactly who owns every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of these bitcoins, so they can take it from you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's no longer it's decentralized. And then to pour

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<v Speaker 1>icing on the cake is or gasoline on the fire,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess would be a better analogy. They say it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's an alternative a dollar, but now they want to

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<v Speaker 1>link it to this the US dollar into treasuries by

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<v Speaker 1>stable coins. Right, so the whole concept of this thing

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<v Speaker 1>has been has been obliterated. And they did this so

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<v Speaker 1>they can pump up the stop the bitcoin price to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars in unit. Now, two

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<v Speaker 1>more things I want to tell you about this. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>it is hot gold. There's an unlimited number of cryptocurrencies

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<v Speaker 1>that can be created. I do like the blockchain technology, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>extremely useful, But to think that the blockchain technology is

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing as a coin that relates gold is ridiculous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's twenty one million bitcoins, but there's an unlimited

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<v Speaker 1>number of other currencies that could serve the same purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just a commodity. Cries are commodity, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are limitlessons in supply, unlike platinum and unlike gold.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is true. I totally agree with you there.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think there's something else going on with bitcoin

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<v Speaker 3>that we're not going to know. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>bitcoin short squeeze coming because you've got a huge synthetic

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<v Speaker 3>derivatives to market there, and you've only got seven percent

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<v Speaker 3>of all the bitcoin ever created that actually free trade,

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<v Speaker 3>which will be substantially less because you've got ETFs. This week,

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<v Speaker 3>two point two billion more went into bitcoin. Eat where

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<v Speaker 3>are they getting all these bitcoin from this when they

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<v Speaker 3>stopped making it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, completely wrong on the price, missed the entire thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing much higher. But when you get an unfriendly

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<v Speaker 1>administration in place, and you will, and an unfriendly sec

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<v Speaker 1>and you will in the future, this thing will crash

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<v Speaker 1>because its intrinsic value is maybe closer to one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars rather than one hundred and seventeen thousand. So just beware.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just not something at this especially now,

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<v Speaker 1>at this price level I'm interested in getting involved with,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey been wrong with both.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting was that I was at the Bitcoin conference and

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<v Speaker 3>it's amazing guy I know who told me to buy

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<v Speaker 3>bitcoin at five, who's never sold one bitcoin, he is

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<v Speaker 3>buying it at a dollar. And let's not forget Michael

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<v Speaker 3>that if you invested ten cents in coin in twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 3>it'd be worth one hundred and eighteen hundred nineteen thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars as we're speaking. What he told me is that

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<v Speaker 3>over half the contributions going to the Republican Party are

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<v Speaker 3>coming from crypto bros. So that's I think, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>say are now, Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>You're exactly right, but you know three years from now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, play with it now. The volatility

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<v Speaker 1>attributes to this product are just astronomically off the charts.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just not something i'd like to That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer platinum to silver. I don't like that high data. Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you make money in bitcoin? Yeahp hundred percent? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you still make money? Probably? Did I miss everything?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, But beware because you when you have something

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<v Speaker 1>that's supposed to have its value derived from having a

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized anonymous, immutable transaction, and you're to get the value

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<v Speaker 1>is now derived from government. M I'm the only person

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard talk about I mean, maybe I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't have it in my ears out there, but who

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever heard anybody else say how absolutely absurd?

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<v Speaker 3>This is? Oh completely but but bus, that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 3>you can't make money on it, right undred percent?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I maya kopa here. I'm the last person to

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<v Speaker 1>ask about the future to make a bitcoin price.

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<v Speaker 3>Can do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>For me to do that, it'd be it'd be completely

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<v Speaker 1>inappropriate because I've been so wrong. The picture is interesting though,

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<v Speaker 1>but but the but caveat emptor here though, they will

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<v Speaker 1>be hell to pay. And it's coming, and it's one

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<v Speaker 1>day because because what bitcoin really is now has become

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a derivative of the stock market. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a it's a higher a derivative on equity.

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<v Speaker 1>And if liquidity ever drives up again, not if when

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<v Speaker 1>it happens, yeah, when it's gonna it's it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a disaster for the entire space.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, I think we'll let it go there.

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<v Speaker 3>We got other things to talk about next time. After

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<v Speaker 3>you've done traveling things about the worst cycle, what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>there in Europe, the euro, the dollar, all that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But you'll find Michael's work excellent work. Sign up pentoport

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<v Speaker 3>dot com links in the show notes, and if you

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<v Speaker 3>got a question for Michael myself, shoot me an email

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<v Speaker 3>k l Atcarrie LUTs dot com. Michael, we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you in a month or two. Be well.

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<v Speaker 1>Always a pleasure, Carrie, Thank you, thanks.

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