WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:04.400 It's time for coffee and Company, Fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:07.080 Sports Talk seven ninety Holy. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 Crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we. 4 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:11.640 Are gettle off our show, idiot. 5 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:13.199 The kids are crying a trail off. 6 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.399 Countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, 7 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:20.399 gold Play Inner Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, 8 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:24.280 but they're really not. Who's the kid here? Who's the 9 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:44.679 kid here? Are you kidding me? Now? Here's nick coffee? 10 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:47.880 Can you feel that? Ladies and gentlemen? Can you smell it? 11 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:51.560 You know what that is? That's Friday. That's right, it 12 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:54.039 is Friday. Let's get it started, dude. 13 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:55.359 Nothing smells like Friday. 14 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:59.840 Man, I mean, Friday is the absolute best. And I 15 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.799 feel like a real failure. And I you do what, Yeah, 16 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:05.560 I feel like a real failure because. 17 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:07.760 Old I'm gonna need some better attitude. Well you know 18 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:08.760 what you got, failure. 19 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:10.879 I just got to get it off my chest because 20 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:12.840 it's just been you know, I got to talk through it. 21 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:15.480 But for the third straight day, I have attempted to 22 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:16.719 take a nap and I can't do it. 23 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:19.040 Okay, I just Can't's just not not in your cards. 24 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:22.760 Trying something three consecutive times and then failing each time 25 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:24.000 is not a fun experience. 26 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:26.280 What are these naps being done? Like immediately when you 27 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:28.560 get home? Do you just try to chill out or 28 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.040 like is like middle of the day because you get 29 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:33.840 you get out of here after cruises show pretty early 30 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:34.359 right about? 31 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:34.719 Yeah? 32 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:35.519 So right? 33 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:38.920 So I usually leave here around nine thirty. Yesterday I 34 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.200 was here a little bit longer, but yes, I always 35 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.079 give myself plenty of time, like if I wanted to. 36 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:47.239 I mean the plan today and that actually. 37 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.879 Was was executed until you know, I couldn't fall asleep, 38 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:51.359 but was just to leave as soon as the show 39 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:54.840 ends because it hit me today in a way that 40 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:59.159 I wasn't expecting as far as just not getting enough sleep. 41 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.480 I still and not go to sleep at night earlier 42 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:05.239 than I usually do. Yes, but when I get up, 43 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:06.959 I'm really not that tired. I think it's because I 44 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:09.360 haven't fallen into a deep enough sleep. So what happened 45 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:11.120 today is I said, okay, look, just you got to 46 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:14.680 get some rest, and I went right home as soon. 47 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:15.240 As the show ended. 48 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.400 I was back at the house by like nine forty 49 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:19.319 and laid down. 50 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.199 I put my phone away and like. 51 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:26.719 Every part of me is exhausted other than like my mind, 52 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.120 and it was just racing. I laid there for like 53 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:32.319 an hour and I'm like, yeah, this isn't gonna work. Wow, 54 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:36.240 So yeah, it's it's not, it's not. Maybe I don't 55 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.520 know if it's because I'm on still from the show, 56 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:40.680 or if it's because the Monster Energy drink that I 57 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:42.960 drink when I get up at four o'clock. 58 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:44.520 Probably yeah. 59 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:49.280 I Anyways, yesterday I came in feeling like I was 60 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.520 really really about to just fall over, and once the 61 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:55.520 show got rolling, I was in a much better place. 62 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:57.520 And I'm hoping that that's what happens today. 63 00:02:57.560 --> 00:02:59.439 And I can already tell within the first you know, 64 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:02.439 the first chunk of change we've been on the air. Here, 65 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:05.199 I'm already starting to get a little re energized. 66 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.159 Do you not dare to take a gummy in the 67 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:09.080 middle of the day or does that take a while 68 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:10.719 to kick in for you? Why do you know me 69 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:13.080 so well? I mean it's because I we just had 70 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:15.000 the same mind young minds think alike. 71 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:17.759 I thought of it yesterday and then I really thought 72 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:19.800 of it today and almost did it, but I just 73 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:23.000 felt like, you know, like it's it wouldn't have been 74 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:24.319 I mean, it wouldn't have been a big deal. I 75 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:26.000 probably could have taken half and it would have helped. 76 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:27.719 And by the time I needed to be, you know, 77 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:29.719 up and at it, getting ready for this show, I 78 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:31.599 probably would have been okay. But I was, I mean, 79 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:33.120 I was too scared. That's what That's what it came 80 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:33.680 out there. 81 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:37.080 You could do the other one, you know, puff puff 82 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.599 on a doobie or something that may get you asleep 83 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:41.520 for like a good hour or two. I just know 84 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:43.360 by experience via some people. 85 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:44.199 Yeah, you've just heard that. 86 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:45.919 I just heard that rumor. 87 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:47.800 And inn Windows suggests that's what will give you a 88 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:48.639 nice little nap. 89 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:52.159 The good news is tomorrow I'm I'm sleeping in and 90 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:55.439 I'll catch back up on sleep. But uh yeah, it's 91 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.199 not a great feeling to be so exhausted on a Friday. 92 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.319 But again, as we as we move forward, we here 93 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:03.439 in the show, I'm already starting to get the energy levels. 94 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:06.639 They're up, We're getting we're did you find what you needed? 95 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:08.400 You came in here in a hurry looking for some 96 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.039 sort of headphone adapter. I'm gonna to find one. 97 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.879 No, so I'm gonna blame that on the just you know, 98 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:16.040 my mind not working the way that it that it 99 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.399 that it should, probably because of lack of sleep. But 100 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.240 there's this little adapter that goes on the end of 101 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:26.160 headphones and I have one on my on my headphones 102 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:28.120 that I use the earbuds, and I guess I've left 103 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:30.279 it in the h studio for being in there this morning, 104 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:30.839 so you. 105 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:33.160 Know when I was because sometimes I like to use that. Uh, 106 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:35.120 I like to use that studio ever now and then, 107 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:36.800 because I don't know if it's just because it's in 108 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:39.560 like the back of our offices, I feel really the cave. 109 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:41.160 It's nice. It's like the cave. 110 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:43.439 And I tried to use headphones on it the other 111 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.040 day and there it was a bigger hole that I 112 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:50.319 tried putting it into. No, it's that's what it was 113 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:52.920 story in my life. Yeah, And I guess I guess 114 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.720 it's uh that that little adapter does everything. 115 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.319 Yeah, yeah, it's it's something that I have to have. 116 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.319 So what I'm doing is I'm actually pulling headphone from 117 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:03.000 across the side of the table here on and and 118 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:04.160 and it works fun. 119 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:05.439 So we made it. We made it work. 120 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:08.160 But Anyways, let's get let's get set for the weekend. 121 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:10.639 I mean, we've got Super Bowl coming up on Sunday. 122 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:13.319 I think it's wishful thinking for a lot. 123 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:17.000 Of folks that are just out here predicting the Eagles win. 124 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.160 I mean, I'm not really even believing people when they 125 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.000 say they think the Eagles are gonna win. It's like 126 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:24.879 something they're just programmed to say because they're trying to 127 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:27.600 speak it into existence because you know, it's anti Chiefs. 128 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:29.639 There's no scenario when this game starts that I'll be 129 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:31.120 pulling for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. 130 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:32.399 I just don't think that it's possible. 131 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:36.600 But I the more I've kind of just sit and 132 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:39.120 reflected on this dynasty that. 133 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:43.360 They are currently in, I mean, the. 134 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:47.399 Only reason legitimately that they're unlikable is that they're just 135 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.519 too good. And that's got me insecure about myself because 136 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:51.240 you know what that means. 137 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:53.800 I'm just a hater, but I'm not along with the 138 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:55.040 club and a lot of people are. 139 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:57.199 So I hate both teams. How about that? 140 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:00.199 Yeah, it's and that's look that that's a big part 141 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:02.720 of it. I've often said, and in fact, we talked 142 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:06.600 about this a little bit this morning that these two teams, 143 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:09.600 I think in the regular season and obviously in the postseason, 144 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:11.040 which is why they're here, they were the best two 145 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.079 teams in the NFL this year. So when you have that, 146 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:16.120 that is that's the best case scenario when you don't 147 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:18.199 have any real ruining interest, But it also just doesn't 148 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:20.319 quite hit the way you needed to hit when you 149 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:23.680 really don't like either team. So I'm gonna be pulling 150 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:28.199 for the Eagles, but just not a Super Bowl that 151 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.879 I'm super excited about. And I hate that because again, 152 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:33.279 I feel like I'm being greedy as a as a 153 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:37.160 fan because I've always said and everybody can disagree. Maybe, 154 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:41.279 you know, if you think this matchup is pretty blaw again, 155 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:43.240 I just I guess we have a different opinion on 156 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:47.319 what blaw is because despite their being two very easy 157 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:51.519 to dislike teams, this should give us the best game. 158 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:53.920 So sure, I mean it is probably at the end 159 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:55.439 of the day, it's the two best teams in the 160 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:58.040 AFC and the NFC that's basing. 161 00:06:57.800 --> 00:06:58.879 Each other for the championship. 162 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:01.199 And you know, I think that's what happens from time 163 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.160 to time, is that you know, maybe you just get 164 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.519 maybe you just want it to be two different teams 165 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:07.800 that are, you know, in that same tier, because this 166 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:10.040 is a rematch from two years ago, and that I 167 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:11.959 think that's what kind of makes it like Yeah, yeah, 168 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.399 I don't know like that. I think that does, in 169 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:18.120 fact add a little bit of the disinterest. I mean 170 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:20.399 to to even use the word disinterest when it comes 171 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:22.279 to Super Bowl just sounds insane because it's the most 172 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:25.800 watched sporting event every year and always will be. But uh, yeah, 173 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:27.600 I am starting to get more and more excited. I'm 174 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:29.560 going to try to build something to bet on for 175 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:32.639 the Super Bowl. Sure, and I I may do some 176 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:34.839 prop bets, but man, I just and I'll get into 177 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:35.160 this later. 178 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:37.360 As far as why I hate it, do it? 179 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:38.120 Yeah, Well, and. 180 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:40.240 It's just to me, it's like pulling the pulling a 181 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:42.360 slot machine. And sure that could be fun too, but. 182 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:44.399 Like, hey, hey, now I love slot machine. 183 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:46.279 Yeah, but that's the kind of gambling that I don't 184 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:50.279 that I don't really like. It's fine, but because it's 185 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:52.839 just so blatantly right in your face, based off nothing 186 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:55.800 but pure luck, it takes a little bit of the 187 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:58.639 joy away. Because when I bet on college hoops or 188 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.199 college football, NFL and I hit a parlay. 189 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:03.319 Really it's the same thing. It's just luck. 190 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.319 But I like to think that I was, you know, 191 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:08.000 the fun is is I guess the strategizing. You know, 192 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:11.040 so I might do some prop bets, but you know 193 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:13.160 those are just different. Even if they win, it's good, 194 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.439 but it's you know, it's it's not the same. But anyway, 195 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:19.000 it's college basketball. I mean, after this week, this weekend, 196 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.399 I should say that that's when college basketball steps to 197 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:21.879 the forefront. 198 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:24.759 Still probably won't be, you know, viewed at an insanely. 199 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:27.439 High level as far as the other big sports, college football, 200 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:30.560 the NFL, but we'll be getting closer to March, and 201 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.039 that's when people start to kind of slowly but surely 202 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:36.080 start checking out more college hoops and of course everybody 203 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:38.679 gets all in to the big dance March madness. 204 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:40.320 So some good games this weekend. 205 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:43.000 Obviously, the local teams are not going to be playing 206 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.639 in big time matchups. In fact, I think you've got, yeah, 207 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:49.360 you've got the two worst teams, well, the worst team 208 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:51.639 in the ACC and the worst team in the SEC. 209 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:53.840 That is who Kentucky and Louisville are playing this weekend. 210 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:58.399 So for Louisville Chucky Hebburn that that obviously was a 211 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:01.600 big talking point yesterday, as we essentially had a funeral 212 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:03.200 for his groin without really knowing. 213 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:04.600 There's a lot of body part talk. 214 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:09.360 Yes, yeah, I mean, and we still don't know much 215 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:12.559 more of anything, or really anything at all that's new. 216 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.720 And I'm not saying that to complain or to blame anybody, 217 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:19.159 because I mean, I think they're being honest. I don't 218 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.559 think they're keeping something from us. But the update from 219 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:24.360 Pat Kelsey earlier today was that Hepburn is day to 220 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.840 day and it is a groin injury. His status for 221 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:29.320 the game against Miami tomorrow is still up in the air. 222 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.200 So essentially he is questionable and he is day to 223 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:34.919 day and it is a groin and that's I mean, 224 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:38.279 that's kind of all we I mean, I would have 225 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.759 loved to have heard Pat Kelsey say, yeah, he's fine. 226 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:42.759 They thought he might have tweaked something, but he's good 227 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.159 to go, But it also didn't seem that that was 228 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:48.600 going to be most likely, so I guess, you know, 229 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:50.919 just to know that the status is the same, meaning 230 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:52.279 if he wasn't able to go back in the game 231 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.399 against Boston, college, and now he's listed as questionable and 232 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:57.919 he's day to day. I mean, it's kind of like 233 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:00.240 we're still really in the exact same spot. But again, 234 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:01.720 it could be worse. We could have found out some 235 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:06.759 really bad news. But I feel no differently today than 236 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:09.679 I did yesterday. Maybe I'm not quite as worried and 237 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:13.240 its panic because again, we haven't got any real bad 238 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.480 news yet. And I think if it was severe enough 239 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.440 to where like it wash oh, he's not gonna play 240 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.840 here anymore because this thing is bad. He's gonna need surgery. 241 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:22.639 I feel like we would know that by now, and 242 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:24.080 I think today would have been the day where they 243 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:25.519 just tell us. I mean, there's no reason for them 244 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:28.320 to withhold that, and I don't think there's really any 245 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:30.799 reason for them to mislead us, as if he is 246 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:32.080 good to go, they just don't want to tell us. 247 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:36.879 I think this is the transparency we should expect. And 248 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:40.159 I bet we'll find out maybe an hour before tip 249 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:43.039 tomorrow if he's going to be able to go. Maybe 250 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:44.639 we find out a little bit earlier. 251 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:46.080 My guess is. 252 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:47.799 It'll play out the way that he did today, where 253 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:51.440 Jeff Goodman actually talked to Pat Kelsey and then shortly 254 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:54.919 after that Pat Kelsey either puts it out via the 255 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:59.480 sports information department or something like that. But Louisville, again, 256 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.919 Miami terrible team, should be able to beat him without Chucky. 257 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:06.679 But I mean, Miami's one of those teams that they're 258 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:10.480 not terrible because of lack of talent, They're terrible just 259 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.200 because they're a mess. I mean, that's really the best way, 260 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:17.679 the best way to describe it. So, I mean, I'm 261 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:21.360 not worried, but Chucky's a really, really important player, and 262 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:23.000 it was nice to see that they did play well 263 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.759 once he did leave the game with that injury. But 264 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:28.080 I guess a positive here is that when you are 265 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:31.320 going to be potentially without your best player, the guy 266 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:34.120 who really is the I mean, he's the key piece 267 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.879 to your squad, it is nice to know at least 268 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:39.000 if it is one game, maybe it's more, but if 269 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.240 it is just one, it's against a team that is really, 270 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:48.360 really bad Miami. They are currently five and seventeen overall. 271 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:52.120 They won their first three games against Fairleigh, Dickinson, Binghamton 272 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:55.200 and Coppin State, and then they lost their first game 273 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:58.919 on November twenty first, and from November twenty first until 274 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:04.159 February first, they only won one two games. They beat 275 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.080 Presbyterian on December fifteenth, and they actually just won a game. 276 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:09.279 They're gonna be coming off of a victory, as they 277 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:13.159 knocked off Notre Dame on on Saturday a little week ago, 278 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.840 so they've had the week off again. Jim Laernega stepped 279 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:20.639 down again. They've got some decent players. Matthew Cleveland form 280 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:26.279 of Florida State player. I mean, Nigel pack is still there, 281 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:27.600 believe it or not. I don't know how many games 282 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.080 he's played in though I know he's been hurt. So 283 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:31.120 you know, they're they're not good. I want to act 284 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.440 like they're loaded with talent, but they do have some 285 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:37.240 capable players. And you know, Louisville can never take anybody lightly, 286 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:39.519 nor should they, and I don't think they will. But again, 287 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:42.399 this could potentially be I guess, the first game you've 288 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:47.679 ever played without Chucky, you know, at any point at all. 289 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.399 All right, let's see here, Kentucky. 290 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:53.240 I don't I feel like South Carolina is the worst 291 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:55.840 team in the SEC. I keep saying that, assuming that 292 00:12:55.879 --> 00:12:58.240 it's true, and sure enough, in the Ken Palm they 293 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:02.480 are in last play as far as their their record. Well, actually, yeah, 294 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.600 this isn't kent Palm related. This is just specifically the 295 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:08.240 record in the league. They're ten and twelve overall and 296 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:11.279 they have not won an SEC game. So again, Kentucky 297 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:14.320 coming off their worst performance of the season. They've now 298 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.000 lost four or five. So really this is this is 299 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:20.120 this is good timing if you're Kentucky, and similar to 300 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.159 Louisville good timing. You know you got if you go, 301 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:23.879 you got to go without your point guard. You're doing 302 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:26.039 it against a terrible team. And I wouldn't say South 303 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:30.440 Carolina is terrible because every loss they have in the 304 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.360 SEC is to. 305 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:34.480 The good teams, tournament teams. 306 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.840 I mean, I guess Vandy is their worst loss, but 307 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:39.960 they only lost to Vandy about three Kentucky lost to 308 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:43.159 Vanny by more than that, so you know they're not terrible. 309 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:45.519 But this will be one that if you somehow don't 310 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.600 win this, which they will, I mean I can't imagine 311 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:51.080 they don't. But if you said don't win this, that's 312 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.399 where you really would have to start to question, Okay, 313 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:57.440 we got some something going on here, like something's changed, 314 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:01.799 because both things can be true. Yes, Lamont Butler not 315 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:03.919 being available is a big deal. 316 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:05.559 They miss him. He's a good player. 317 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:08.039 Take that guy off of any team that meaning that 318 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:10.279 what his value is, and they're not going to be 319 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:12.200 the same, especially when you are a team that is 320 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:17.039 bad defensively, he's clearly your best defender. So again that's accurate. 321 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:21.200 But also they shouldn't in stretches be as bad, especially 322 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:24.120 defensively when he's not there. So again, both things can 323 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:28.600 be true. They have wins at Tennessee at Gonzaga without 324 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:33.320 Lamont Butler, So I mean, even if this is a 325 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.879 close game, you probably wouldn't be panicked or maybe what 326 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.399 I'm not sure. It'd certainly be better than losing the game. 327 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:45.159 But this Kentucky team, it'd be a stretch to say 328 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.840 they're in some kind of major funk. But again, they're 329 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.320 lost to Arkansas and Ole Miss. Those were I mean, 330 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:52.960 those were games where, really, if you think about it, 331 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:57.320 they never were really in control of any of either 332 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:00.799 game at any point. And then there's also some other 333 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:03.480 really good games going on tomorrow that we'll get into 334 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:08.039 throughout the throughout the afternoon today. Also, we've got the 335 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:11.039 NBA trade line, NBA trade deadline. I can't speak. I'm 336 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.519 telling you the NBA trade deadline has come and gone. 337 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:19.559 And I what fascinates me about the trade deadline and 338 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:23.000 just these NBA trades that aren't even really substantial, like 339 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:24.960 ones that you probably don't even realize happened. But there 340 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.720 have been three guys, four guys I guess now, that 341 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:30.879 have been on like multiple teams within the same or 342 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:33.320 like three or four teams in a two days period. 343 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:34.960 And I just I would love to be a fly 344 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.960 on the wall whenever those negotiations are are, Like is 345 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:40.559 it just to offload contracts? Like why would you trade 346 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:42.360 for a guy and then five minutes later send them 347 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.559 to a different team. I mean, again, I'm assuming it's 348 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:47.279 because it's just maybe part of the transaction to cut 349 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:50.120 some some excess costs for something. I don't know, But 350 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.519 imagine not knowing who you work for, Like if you 351 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:57.759 were a Dennis Schroeder, who I believe was on six. 352 00:15:57.519 --> 00:15:59.799 Teams or something like that. 353 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.840 I mean, if I was in an airport, I would say, look, 354 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:05.720 I'm not leaving. I'm waiting till the trade deadline ends 355 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:08.679 before I get on a plane terminal. I mean, it's 356 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:13.840 it's crazy, crazy crazy stuff. Also, Indiana, they are moving 357 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:18.720 on from Mike Woodson. He's going to retire or he's 358 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:24.759 he's pondering retirement. Pondering the retirement Mike Woodson is, which 359 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:28.080 I love that I'd love to be wildly unsuccessful at 360 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:30.559 something and then just well, I'm pondering retirement. 361 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:32.240 I'm not going to you know, get fired or quit. 362 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:33.519 I just want to retire. 363 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:38.879 I mean, what's in early withdraw He's just withdrawing his 364 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:39.960 name from consideration. 365 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:44.720 And I think Indiana, I mean they should be able 366 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:46.679 to go get Chris Beard. 367 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:49.200 They should go. They should be able to go get Bruce. 368 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:51.879 Pearl and like, those are the kind of guys that would, 369 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:55.600 in fact, I think have no trouble getting Indiana back 370 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.919 to being a consistent top ten team. I mean, indian 371 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:01.279 has always had the recent sources to be very good. 372 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:05.039 They just really have whiffed at the coaching hires since 373 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:08.799 Bob Knight left. All right, quick break, We'll keep this 374 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.519 thing rolling along. It's coffee and company. 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I mean, 386 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:21.519 I don't really know what can be said that it's 387 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:25.000 going to make anybody feel any better. But he not 388 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:28.839 only didn't win, but one person voted him forth, which 389 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:31.440 that was former Bears quarterback Jim Miller. And by the way, 390 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.720 I did not realize that there was such transparency. 391 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:36.000 With who votes for who, which I actually. 392 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:37.960 Like that puts your name on it, right, Yeah, he'll 393 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:39.359 be hiding Jim Miller. 394 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:41.799 It sounds like a construction worker somewhere. 395 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.160 So I'm trying to see if there's yeah, because there's 396 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.079 an article here at awful Announcing dot com that yeah, 397 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:50.440 they wrote up they wrote about it, but they said 398 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:52.960 he's yet to comment on his vote on social media. 399 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:57.200 But apparently he has a serious XM show, and it 400 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:01.240 sounds like they're they're just this says there are gonna 401 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:02.759 be a lot of people that are looking to listen 402 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:04.680 to him whenever his show is on because they want 403 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:05.680 to hear what he. 404 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:06.119 Has to say. 405 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.640 Is because look, it's one thing to vote for Josh Allen, 406 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:11.119 and Josh Josh Allen had a phenomenal season. I can't 407 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:13.519 really in any way claim that he's not a great 408 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:15.440 player that was deserving of all the praise. I just 409 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:18.279 I don't know how, like I wouldn't have well, I 410 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:19.599 don't know I was gonna say, I wouldn't have an 411 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:23.240 issue with Lamar not getting it if he already hadn't 412 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:26.759 won it twice. And this, you know, this year was 413 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:28.640 better than the two years for him that he that 414 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:32.000 he won it previously. So therefore, like if that was 415 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:36.799 good enough for Lamar to win it before, it certainly 416 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:39.839 should be good enough now in a year where he 417 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:41.519 was better than he'd ever been and know, by the way, 418 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:44.079 he was better than Josh Allen in every single statistic. 419 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:46.680 And if you want to bring up the playoffs, I 420 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:48.799 mean you can, but that is not at all what 421 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:51.759 this is about. And in fact, don't they vote before, 422 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.640 like do they give him the ballot and say, hey, 423 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:02.759 you need to give us this vote on January eighteenth, 424 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:05.640 But you need to make sure when you vote you 425 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:07.799 only keep in mind the regular season, because I don't 426 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:09.119 think that would be right, because I don't think people 427 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:09.720 would be able. 428 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:11.480 To do that, you know what I mean, because. 429 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:16.039 We really evaluate dudes more so whenever they play in 430 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:18.319 the playoffs. It's just how it works. So either way, 431 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:23.079 I mean, there's really I mean again, I just chalk 432 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.079 it up to Lamar being a victim of his own 433 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:28.119 success because he has set the bar so high that 434 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:31.759 the voters, I mean, they're willing to give him the 435 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.200 first team All Pro Quarterback, but a lot of people 436 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:39.240 who vote for both that and the NFL Player of 437 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:42.680 the Year they decided it's just weird how Lamar ended 438 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:45.400 up really not getting any specific award other than first 439 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:46.759 Team All Pro Quarterback. 440 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.440 So I'm sure to motivate him. 441 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:51.880 But when I say he's a victim of his own success, 442 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:54.359 he's just set the bar so high that even when 443 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:57.799 he does, in fact statistically have a better year than 444 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:01.039 he's ever had after already having to him, it still 445 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:03.680 just wasn't enough to wow those who. 446 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:05.640 Vote, because you know they're getting bored with how good 447 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:05.960 he is. 448 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:09.440 I mean, he's the first quarterback in eleven seasons to 449 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:11.720 be named First team All Pro and not win the MVP. 450 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:16.799 I mean, it's a historic season that really we're only 451 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:19.960 just gonna remember, right because there's gonna be no specific 452 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:25.000 award attached to it. And that's just crazy considering how 453 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:28.119 great he actually was. I mean, he's the first quarterback 454 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:31.799 to ever throw for four thousand yards and rush for 455 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:35.119 nine hundred plus yards, first quarterback to ever have forty 456 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:39.960 plus passing touchdowns and fewer than five interceptions. His passer 457 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:42.000 rating was one hundred and nineteen point six, which is 458 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.039 the fourth best in NFL history. Again, it's a historic 459 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:48.960 season that resulted in nothing in the NFL Honors Awards 460 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:53.119 show last night. No MVP, no Offensive Player of the Year, nothing, 461 00:21:54.039 --> 00:21:56.160 and it is I mean, it's wild, but. 462 00:21:57.920 --> 00:21:59.480 I guess there's I mean, I can't think of any. 463 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.319 Other excuse because the people who've voted, who voted for 464 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:04.319 him twice when he's won it and it wasn't close 465 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:06.839 in the other two years, I just can't believe that 466 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:08.680 they're against Lamar Are they voted for him before? What 467 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:10.839 would change their mind now? They had to have been 468 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:13.799 just that impressed with Josh Allen, and I suppose the 469 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:17.200 narrative that that doubt that Buffalo was pushing. I guess 470 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:19.839 it worked and that was that, and they were strategic 471 00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:23.400 in marketing that you know, hey, this guy, he's the 472 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:24.359 only reason we win. 473 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:25.759 And look, that may be true. 474 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.880 They lost Stefon Diggs, but other teams have lost Stefon 475 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:30.640 Diggs and gotten better. That's actually happened really everywhere he's been. 476 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.119 But he is a really good player's first talent. And 477 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:36.640 they didn't really add any big names. But I you know, again, 478 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:38.720 I don't want to be that guy to talk out 479 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:40.279 of both sides of my mouth because I don't think 480 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:43.000 that Josh Allen was undeserving of all the praise. I 481 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:45.400 just don't think he was good enough to where you 482 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.640 could say, even though Lamar still didn't wow you, because 483 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.640 you're just you know, you're used to him doing this now. 484 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:53.839 I just don't think Josh Allen statistically was really that 485 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:56.319 much better. There's not a sa I mean again, keep 486 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.200 in mind, Lamar had more passing yards, more passing touchdowns, 487 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:04.119 fewer interceptions, a higher completion percentage, more rushing yards, a 488 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:07.359 higher rushing average, and a head to head win in 489 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:10.519 the regular season, all of that against the I mean again, 490 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:12.839 all those numbers were better than the guy who they 491 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:15.319 gave the award to. So the more I talk about it, 492 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.039 the more I just seem bitter and you know, it sucks. 493 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.519 But again, the real reason how you can do all 494 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:26.000 that and not win is because people are just so 495 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:28.720 used to you being great, and in order to get 496 00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:31.359 yourself back in the mix for that award, you're gonna 497 00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:34.240 have to you know, you're gonna have to take it 498 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:35.920 to an even higher level, which I don't know if 499 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:37.759 he will, but wouldn't shock me if he does, because 500 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:39.039 you know, he's Lamar Jackson. 501 00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:41.359 He's been pretty special, all right. 502 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:43.480 Coffee and Company feel about Thorton's here on Sports Talk 503 00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:47.480 seven ninety So the Indiana. 504 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:49.240 Job is going to open, I don't. 505 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.480 I mean, I've seen all kinds of different reporting out 506 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:55.119 there as far as what you know, what they're gonna 507 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.000 do or I guess really more than anything, how they're 508 00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:59.319 gonna word it right, because it sounds like this will 509 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:02.240 be his last season, but it also sounds like he's 510 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:04.400 going to finish this season, and I guess it really 511 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:07.599 just comes down to them working out the exit, and 512 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.359 to be fair to Woodson, at least he'll have somewhat 513 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.039 of a graceful exit, meaning he's he's conceding here right 514 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.640 like they've been able to talk him into bowing out, 515 00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:22.000 and if he said no, the hell with you, guys, 516 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:23.799 I've got a contract and I want to honor it. 517 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:25.880 Well at that point they would just fire him right now. 518 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:29.559 So a graceful exit is the best way to go 519 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:31.599 when you're already in an awkward situation that will really 520 00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:33.720 never be the same because Mike Woodson, a guy who 521 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:36.079 played for Bob Knight, obviously has deep roots in Indiana. 522 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.240 But for here on out, nobody's going to think about 523 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:39.880 his playing days. They're going to think about he came 524 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:41.559 back to coaching it didn't work out, And that's the 525 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:43.440 risk you take when you hire one of your own. 526 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:48.000 When people bring up Kenny Payne down the line, I'm 527 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:51.640 not even sure if people will remember that he played here. 528 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:54.000 I mean, if you really think about it. But like 529 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:55.799 I know, I don't think of Kenny Payne and think 530 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:57.960 about him being a former player here one because I didn't. 531 00:24:58.000 --> 00:24:59.279 I mean, I don't remember him playing here. 532 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:02.960 But also just because I mean we thought the guy 533 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.920 we hired was gonna be able to connect and understand 534 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:09.799 the program better than anybody, because you know, he played here, 535 00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:12.839 and in fact, I don't think he was one percent 536 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:16.400 compatible with the way everybody sees this program. He was 537 00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.119 almost like the biggest outsider in the grand scheme of things. 538 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:21.240 So again, that's the risk you take when you hire 539 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:22.720 one of your own. You know that when it if 540 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:25.480 it doesn't work out really under any even if it 541 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:28.680 is a graceful exit or if it's a messy divorce, 542 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:33.359 it's still going to forever change how you know, how 543 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:37.480 we view said coach, and again that that that all 544 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:40.319 comes down to if it doesn't work out, and clearly 545 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:43.720 with Indiana and Mike Woodson it's not working out. So 546 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:48.240 when other jobs are open later, I don't think there's 547 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:50.480 gonna be a bigger job than Indiana opening. I don't, 548 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:52.880 at least I can't. I can't think of it. I mean, 549 00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.359 I don't know what it would be. Sometimes guys just retire, though, 550 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:58.200 so maybe that'll happen, because in the last few years 551 00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:00.599 there's been a bunch of coaches just random out of nowhere. 552 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:02.799 You find out they're just deciding to step down because 553 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:04.599 they just don't want to do it anymore. Starting I 554 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.440 think it started with with Jay Wright as far as 555 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:08.839 just kind of out of nowhere, and then of course 556 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.880 Shoyshsky did his retirement tour, and you know, you've had 557 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:17.119 countless others that just decide to walk away, and you know, 558 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:20.359 there's neally many left that I think would I guess 559 00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:23.319 if like Izzoh decided to just walk that would be 560 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:26.039 that would be I guess another guy that's similar to 561 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:29.119 that era, that that that just doesn't want to do 562 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:31.640 it now that they have to deal with Nil and 563 00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:34.200 the portal and whatnot. But Izzo is actually thriving this year. 564 00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:37.119 He's got a really, really, really good team. So who 565 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.039 these who these programs go after is going to be 566 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:44.599 very intriguing to me because one thing that I that 567 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.839 I think will we'll slow down a little bit when 568 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:51.920 it comes to hires is guys that are assistant coaches 569 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:55.559 at really successful programs that have worked under really good 570 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:59.160 coaches but have never been a head coach before. Think 571 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.599 about that, likes and I'm trying to think of again, 572 00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:06.119 because all these legendary coaches have retired in recent years, 573 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.599 there's really not a longtime assistant sitting there for somebody 574 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.759 to go pluck. But honestly, that's what Kenny was. Kenny 575 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:14.319 was a longtime assistant and never decided to take a 576 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:15.519 chance and go be a head coach. 577 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:17.559 And you know, we now know he now knows he's 578 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:18.200 not a head coach. 579 00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:25.319 So I believe in a previous era, maybe I don't know, 580 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:29.440 eight nine years ago, maybe right before NIL and the 581 00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.640 portal and whatnot, I think you would see a school 582 00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:36.640 more likely, like like a Florida state that's open now 583 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:40.640 in Miami of Virginia, because there's really not some big 584 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:44.640 sitting up and coming dude that's just you know, primed 585 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.359 for another. Like there's no Shock as Smart from VCU. 586 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:49.640 There's no Brad Stevens from Butler. Not to say there's 587 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:51.680 not coaches that could have success like that, but like 588 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:53.960 there's just not this buzz name that you know any 589 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.119 moment is about to go and take a big job. Honestly, 590 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:57.640 Dusty May was the last guy to do that, and 591 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:02.720 he's not Michigan, so I think think guy. I think again, 592 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.200 right before the NIL era started, that window of time, 593 00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:07.319 I think you would be more likely to see a 594 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.880 Miami or a Virginia hire a great coach's top assistant 595 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:13.920 and just hope that they carry over that success. But 596 00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:17.640 I think now you're seeing guys like Nate Oates, who 597 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:19.640 was a successful coach at Buffalo, Well he got the 598 00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:21.759 Alabama job. Look at him now. I mean, you can 599 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:23.799 use Pat Kelsey as an example. We'll see how things 600 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.640 finish up this year with Pat in Louisville. But he's 601 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:31.319 a guy that was successful at Winthrope, successful at Charleston, 602 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:34.319 and you know, he just got an opportunity to take 603 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:36.799 what he was doing and succeeding and try to do 604 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:38.519 it at this this higher level at Louisville. 605 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.680 And again, so far, so good. And it's not to 606 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:43.279 say that those guys. 607 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.039 At a Charleston or at a Winthrop years ago wouldn't 608 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:50.960 get an opportunity to you know, to end up at 609 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.559 an ACC, a top ACC job or a top Big 610 00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.400 ten job. But I feel like they had actually another 611 00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:58.680 step on the ladder at that point, right, like you'd have. 612 00:28:58.680 --> 00:28:59.240 To go to. 613 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.319 From you have to go from Charleston to. 614 00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.000 Let me think of a like Charleston to which a 615 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.480 toss state to then maybe get the job at a 616 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.200 Michigan or a Virginia and I just don't you know, 617 00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:17.559 I think with these guys not having these larger than 618 00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:21.640 life personalities, they don't have decades of experience of landing 619 00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:22.839 McDonald's all Americans. 620 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:24.759 That used to be a real red flag. 621 00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.839 And look it might still be now, but but you 622 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:29.720 don't have to be that larger than life guy if 623 00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:32.559 you have a gig that's got good resources within ile money, 624 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:35.039 because that now can can make up for that. And 625 00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:37.599 then there's some coaches that really I mean, I think 626 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.480 Pat Kelsey just given what we know about him as 627 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.079 far as his energy, his personality, I mean, you could 628 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.400 tell he's got this fan base supporting him and believing 629 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:46.599 in him, and clearly these players are a reflection of him. 630 00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:49.160 So you know, Pat to me, and I'm biased, I suppose, 631 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.599 but he's one of those guys that, you know, I 632 00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:53.359 think he probably always would have been a good recruiter 633 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.200 anywhere because I think he's pretty good at that exact thing. 634 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.079 But now he's walking into a living room and or 635 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.400 you know, he's wearing he's he's walking into a living 636 00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.240 room with a polo on with the Louisville logo on 637 00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:06.160 it instead of a Charleston logo, same thing when he's 638 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:09.319 walking into these AAU tournaments across the country. It's a 639 00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:13.759 little bit different. So with Indiana, I think they're one 640 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.319 of the last schools that could maybe take I mean, 641 00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:18.880 I think Indiana will be a rare situation. That's why Bor, 642 00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.640 That's why I went into the whole thing about the 643 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:24.759 other jobs that are open, because I don't think that 644 00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:27.400 these other jobs that are currently open or even maybe 645 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.279 going to open after the season, would be able to 646 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:37.160 pluck a Bruce Pearl from Auburn or a or a 647 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.400 Chris Beard from ole Miss. Because Indiana is a legitimate, 648 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.559 elite job. It's not the best, but it's up I mean, 649 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:47.599 it's it's up there. And clearly, if you're at Auburn 650 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.559 and ole Miss, you're making a lot of money because 651 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:51.240 you're in the SEC, and the SEC is a loaded 652 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:53.920 league right now. But these guys know, Indiana is different. 653 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:57.000 It's a basketball blue blood. It's a dynasty. 654 00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.160 I mean, not a dynasty, but it's a yeah, blue blood. 655 00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:00.359 I mean, and I mean. 656 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:06.240 They've they are a basketball school. And I think that 657 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:10.559 really doesn't matter to some coaches. And that's okay, Like 658 00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:12.920 some coaches are totally fine knowing, Hey, I could go 659 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:14.960 to a Final Four every year and my fans are 660 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:16.359 still going to Cary way more about football. 661 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.240 Like some coaches don't worry about that. Other coaches do. 662 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:20.680 And I'm not sure if that's something that like Chris 663 00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.200 Beard and Bruce Pearl are worried about, but I know 664 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.279 that they value what it means to be at a 665 00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.599 place like Indiana to where here's the real deal. Kurt 666 00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:31.160 Signette could be going to the playoff every year. If 667 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.000 Indiana is good in basketball, they're going to get way 668 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.680 more attention. It's just different. So I really do believe 669 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.119 if they go after and they pay, both those guys 670 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:41.559 would leave. 671 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:41.920 I do. 672 00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:45.559 And it's kind of a rare situation because if you're 673 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.400 if you're Bruce Pearl and you're at Texas instead of Auburn, 674 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:51.759 you wouldn't go to Indiana, even though Indiana is a 675 00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.759 better job. At least I don't think you would. If 676 00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:01.480 you're Chris Beard and you're at Florida, you may still 677 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.240 leave because Florida's I mean, Florida's had success in basketball 678 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.880 and really never seemed to have great support. And I 679 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:10.440 think Chris Bard's got a better chance to have been 680 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:11.920 support at Ole Miss than Florida. Maybe they're not a 681 00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.200 good example, but Tennessee, Like Tennessee's not a basketball school, 682 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.680 but it's clearly a good program that's had a lot. 683 00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:20.680 Of success recently. So if Chris Beard's at. 684 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:22.640 Tennessee instead of All Miss, maybe he does stay there 685 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.880 and not go to Indiana. But I kind of feel 686 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:31.599 like Indiana has an opportunity here to really change everything. 687 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:33.000 I mean, I was trying to think of the last 688 00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:36.799 because they had some decent years with Tom Crean, but 689 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.759 I kind of feel like the years they were supposed 690 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.720 to be really good, they underachieved and fell short. And 691 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:44.880 then the years that you kind of felt like they 692 00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.160 were going to be terrible, he exceeded expectations, but they 693 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:51.119 still weren't that good. So since Bob Knight, who has 694 00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:55.079 not coached there in twenty five years, they had Mike 695 00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.000 Davis from two thousand to two thousand and six and 696 00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:02.000 he won fifty nine of his games and he made 697 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.000 four tournaments, but man like it was just one year 698 00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:07.319 where he ended up getting all the way of the 699 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.240 championship game in his first year really with a Bob 700 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:13.920 nineteen then they hired Kelvin Sampson. Man that that's really 701 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:15.119 something you got to consider. 702 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:16.880 I mean that that. 703 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.400 That hire was in two yeah, two thousand and six. Like, 704 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.200 if Kelvin Sampson got hired in two thousand and six, 705 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:27.720 really I would imagine he'd still be at Indiana because 706 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:29.480 I think he would have succeeded in a big way there. 707 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.799 And what he was accused of doing, I guess did 708 00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:34.720 do that got him in trouble, Like the thought like 709 00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.240 I'm gonna look it up like what I think it 710 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.119 might have been, like sending text messages when you know 711 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:41.240 that you're not supposed to and just think about that 712 00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:43.039 now being something that gets you fired. 713 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.720 I mean, it's crazy, but that's what happened. 714 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:50.480 And had that not happened, Indiana for nineteen for them, 715 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.559 for the last nineteen years, might have been one of 716 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.079 the most consistently elite programs in the country. Because again, 717 00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.440 Kelvin Sampson is killing it at Houston, and the only 718 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:02.319 reason he wasn't your coach for longer than you know, 719 00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:07.160 a couple of years is because of because of this 720 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:11.239 stupid and sibilly rules. So after Calvin Sampson, I totally 721 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.320 forgot they hired Dan Dockisch. Did you know that Austin 722 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.079 that Dan Dockicch was Indiana's coach briefly? 723 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:17.119 No, I did not. 724 00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:19.159 Well, I'm sorry, I guess they didn't hire him. My mistake. 725 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:20.920 What they did is that he took over for Samson 726 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.159 when Sampson got fired. So Dan Docas went three. Yeah, 727 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:26.480 Doctach went three and four in his seven games as 728 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.800 the coach. And by the way, Kelvin Sampson was good 729 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.119 when he was there at Indian and he was forty 730 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.760 three and fifteen, won seventy four percent of his games 731 00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.880 in a little less than a two year stretch. And 732 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.400 then of course they hired Crean, and with Crean, I 733 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.719 still feel like it took Crean too long to get good. However, 734 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.079 it was different back then, right, Crean couldn't Crean inherited 735 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:49.159 a team that really actually started walk On's because everybody 736 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.840 left because of the Sampson stuff. And you couldn't use 737 00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:53.920 anil to go get players. You couldn't go to the 738 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.920 portal and build your roster. So again, he does deserve 739 00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.760 a little bit of a pass because he did inherit 740 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.000 something that he could not quit, he could not fix 741 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:03.800 quickly like you can now in college basketball. But they 742 00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:05.599 didn't have a winning season until his fourth year, and 743 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:07.840 that was in twenty twelve. That was the good team. 744 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:09.159 That was the That was a team that lost to 745 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.719 Kentucky in the Sweet sixteen. And then the next year 746 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.519 they were a one seed in twenty thirteen with Oladipo 747 00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:18.800 and Jordan Holes and they lost in the Sweet sixteen 748 00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:20.800 and got upset by Syracuse because they couldn't get out 749 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:25.239 of the zone. And after that, Tom Creane coached a 750 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.840 couple more years, a few more years, and he did 751 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:29.679 go back to the Sweet sixteen when he beat Kentucky, 752 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:31.960 but there was just never any consistency. 753 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.320 Any good season. 754 00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:35.800 Was followed by a bad one right right after that 755 00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.079 Sweet sixteen appearance. He went eighteen and sixteen, seven and 756 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.320 eleven in the Big Ten. So cream was there a 757 00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:42.960 long time, and he won fifty five percent of his games, 758 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:47.119 So he's I mean, he wasn't he wasn't awful, but man, 759 00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.679 he wasn't anywhere near as good as Indiana needs their 760 00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:54.679 coach to be. I mean, even in the last six years, 761 00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:57.719 whenever he was well established and no longer I mean 762 00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:01.400 no longer relying on Walkon's because of the previous team 763 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.079 that he inherited. So I mean, he just wasn't good 764 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.559 enough at the end of the day. So after Tom Crean, 765 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.320 that's when you went to Archie Miller. I thought that 766 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:13.519 was gonna be really, really successful, just because I thought, man, 767 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.079 if Archie Miller can win it Dayton, he can win 768 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.360 it Indiana. And man, that couldn't have been worse. That 769 00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.440 was just a terrible fit. And I think, you know, 770 00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.360 Archie's one of those guys that was a good coach 771 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.920 at Dayton, had some good years, but he won three 772 00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:31.000 games in the NAA tournament in two seasons. He went 773 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.519 to the Elite eight in fourteen, and that was just 774 00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:35.519 a run. Like that team wasn't that good. That wasn't 775 00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.679 even one of his better teams. And that's that's I 776 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:40.320 get why we do it, but it is really stupid 777 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.079 if you think about it. We value way too much 778 00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:45.920 on one time, random tournament runs that really are are 779 00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.920 not luck. But like it's one time, it doesn't necessarily 780 00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:51.239 mean that that guy's an elite coach based off of 781 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.119 three games in the two weeks in a two week period. 782 00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:57.599 So at Indiana, Archie won fifty three percent of his 783 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.599 games and never made the tournament. However, believe he would 784 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.320 have made it in the year where we didn't have 785 00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:05.440 a tournament because of COVID. But let's not act like 786 00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:07.039 that was a great year. They were nine and eleven 787 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.679 in the Big Ten. So like Indiana even and by 788 00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.880 the way, here's what's crazy. I think both some of 789 00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.800 in fact, a lot of Crean's teams and maybe every 790 00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.440 Archie Miller team. When you look at their personnel, they 791 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.599 weren't elite, but like they still should have been better 792 00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:25.280 than they were, Like there were some good players that 793 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:28.400 came through Indiana. Like what did Indiana get out of 794 00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.960 the Romeo Langford experience? Because he was a good freshman. 795 00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:32.880 I mean, he was a good player. A lot of hype, right, 796 00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:36.000 but I mean, and he certainly didn't pan out in 797 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:37.840 the NBA, which is kind of crazy how quickly his 798 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:41.079 NBA career ended. But either way, like in college, he 799 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:45.119 was good, and like it was a forgettable experience because 800 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:48.119 you know, I mean jack Jackson Trace Jackson Davis said 801 00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:50.079 his name, I mean, he was JD. 802 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:50.719 He was elite. 803 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:52.960 He was an elite player, and they really never got 804 00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:56.239 much for it. So Indiana, in my opinion, has always 805 00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:58.440 just been getting the coaching thing wrong. And sometimes they 806 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.400 get it way wrong. Sometimes they you know, unexpectedly get 807 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.920 it wrong. Like Archie Miller. I feel like was a 808 00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:05.800 decent decision, good decision at the time, but you know, 809 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:07.840 it didn't work out. So if they go get Chris 810 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:09.920 Beard to Bruce Pearl, easier said than done. But I 811 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:11.960 believe they could get them. I mean, I think that's 812 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.960 really all that Indiana would be missing in order to 813 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.320 get their program to where they're not just you know, 814 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:18.679 making the tournament consistently. 815 00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:19.679 They should be really. 816 00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:23.280 Really good, all right, speaking are really really good. We're 817 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:24.639 gonna try to be really really good the rest of 818 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.280 the way. So don't go anywhere. Keep it locked right here. 819 00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:55.840 Coffee and Company. Phil about Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. 820 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:58.559 Say retails your region. 821 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:09.440 One Now back to Coffee and Company. Fueled by Thornton's 822 00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:11.400 on Sports Talk seven nine. 823 00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.400 Day, I guess it makes sense that my voice would 824 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:18.679 be going out with seven seven ish hours of radio 825 00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:21.880 per day the last the last few days and make yeah, 826 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.559 it makes sense my voice would would be would be fading. 827 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:26.400 But that's not good timing. I actually have to give 828 00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.239 a speech tomorrow, which. 829 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:29.840 Hall of Fame. 830 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:35.320 Yeah, I'm I'm so so excited for tomorrow, and I'm 831 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.599 I'm still just congratulations, thank you. 832 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:38.519 I really appreciate that. 833 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.920 It's it's clearly corny to to some, but I will. 834 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.119 I mean, I can't, I can't even put into words 835 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.400 how how honored I am and how. 836 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:49.119 How special it is to me. 837 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.840 And it's and it's it's not just because of you know, 838 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:56.199 they're acknowledging me when I played basketball at the school 839 00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:57.639 that I you know, that I went to. 840 00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:59.880 And then by the way, that's I'm very appreciative of 841 00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:00.320 that too. 842 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:02.039 But this is where it gets kind of you know, 843 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.239 corny to some, is that I kind of feel like 844 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.000 where I went to school in North Bullet High School, 845 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:08.719 like it is, it is a huge part of me 846 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:12.119 for more than, you know, for reasons more so than 847 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:13.480 just the fact that I went there four years and 848 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.320 I played basketball. But my dad was a part of 849 00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:21.199 the second graduating class in school history. So you know, 850 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.320 he's signor a coffee Yeah, seven nineteen classes seventy nine, 851 00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:27.960 and he won the first district championship when he played 852 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:29.960 basketball there, and he was he was a lot better 853 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.559 than I was. I mean, he had thirty eight points 854 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:34.159 a couple of times, and they didn't have a three 855 00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:36.800 point line back then. He was he was, He was 856 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:40.159 a baller, and my mother, who of course went was 857 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:42.239 was obviously they were together in high school, got married 858 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.840 and and created this this magnificent man you're listening to 859 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.800 right now. But she graduated a year later, and she 860 00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.199 was she was the homecoming queen in nineteen eighty. So, 861 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:56.039 you know, I remember it in very early age that 862 00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.000 I would run into people in the community that I 863 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.159 grew up because that's where we lived, where they where 864 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.760 they grew up as well. And I would meet people 865 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.480 who who knew my parents or knew of them, and 866 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:07.800 or it would be it would be weird sometimes whenever 867 00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:09.599 I would I would say my name, and they say 868 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.559 are you Who's your dad? And I would say Mark Coffee, 869 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:14.960 and and uh, who's your mom? And I would say 870 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:17.199 Patty Coffee, And then they would make the you know, 871 00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:19.239 there was no social media, so people would then't realize 872 00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.239 when they would meet kids. Oh my gosh. Mark and 873 00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.000 Patty ended up getting married and they had a kid. 874 00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.039 So the family that lives at the Maxwell use, but 875 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:28.039 people would tell me how how how great my dad 876 00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.000 was a basketball and how how my mom was great. 877 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:33.960 She was captain the cheerleading team, and again she was 878 00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:36.880 homecoming Quinn. I guess she was pretty popular. And you know, 879 00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:38.840 I remember as a young at a young age, thinking, man, 880 00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:42.159 that's really cool that like these people really thought highly 881 00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:44.719 of my parents. And you know, I knew I was 882 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.119 going to go to school there, and basketball became my 883 00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:48.639 life when I was growing up. It was something that 884 00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:50.519 I was just absolutely obsessed with. I don't really have 885 00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:52.880 a whole lot of memories that that vividly stand out 886 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.079 about my childhood that are not about basketball, because it's 887 00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:57.800 just what I was obsessed with. I have a very 888 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.519 addictive personality, and that was just my first love and 889 00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:02.840 just something that was a huge part of my life. So, 890 00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:07.239 you know, I I had a good basketball career. We 891 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.360 won district championship, and to be the first father son 892 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.719 duo to play at the school, Uh, it was was 893 00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:15.360 really really awesome. And again it's I'm sure it's corny 894 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.639 to some, but to go into the Hall of Fame 895 00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.599 this weekend is uh something I'm excited about. 896 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.239 Thank you very much.