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Speaker 2: Crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we.
Speaker 3: Are gettle off our show, idiot.
Speaker 4: The kids are crying a trail off.
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Speaker 3: but they're really not. Who's the kid here? Who's the
Speaker 3: kid here? Are you kidding me? Now? Here's nick coffee?
Speaker 2: Can you feel that? Ladies and gentlemen? Can you smell it?
Speaker 2: You know what that is? That's Friday. That's right, it
Speaker 2: is Friday. Let's get it started, dude.
Speaker 4: Nothing smells like Friday.
Speaker 5: Man, I mean, Friday is the absolute best. And I
Speaker 5: feel like a real failure. And I you do what, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel like a real failure because.
Speaker 6: Old I'm gonna need some better attitude. Well you know
Speaker 6: what you got, failure.
Speaker 5: I just got to get it off my chest because
Speaker 5: it's just been you know, I got to talk through it.
Speaker 5: But for the third straight day, I have attempted to
Speaker 5: take a nap and I can't do it.
Speaker 4: Okay, I just Can't's just not not in your cards.
Speaker 5: Trying something three consecutive times and then failing each time
Speaker 5: is not a fun experience.
Speaker 6: What are these naps being done? Like immediately when you
Speaker 6: get home? Do you just try to chill out or
Speaker 6: like is like middle of the day because you get
Speaker 6: you get out of here after cruises show pretty early
Speaker 6: right about?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So right?
Speaker 5: So I usually leave here around nine thirty. Yesterday I
Speaker 5: was here a little bit longer, but yes, I always
Speaker 5: give myself plenty of time, like if I wanted to.
Speaker 2: I mean the plan today and that actually.
Speaker 5: Was was executed until you know, I couldn't fall asleep,
Speaker 5: but was just to leave as soon as the show
Speaker 5: ends because it hit me today in a way that
Speaker 5: I wasn't expecting as far as just not getting enough sleep.
Speaker 5: I still and not go to sleep at night earlier
Speaker 5: than I usually do. Yes, but when I get up,
Speaker 5: I'm really not that tired. I think it's because I
Speaker 5: haven't fallen into a deep enough sleep. So what happened
Speaker 5: today is I said, okay, look, just you got to
Speaker 5: get some rest, and I went right home as soon.
Speaker 2: As the show ended.
Speaker 5: I was back at the house by like nine forty
Speaker 5: and laid down.
Speaker 2: I put my phone away and like.
Speaker 5: Every part of me is exhausted other than like my mind,
Speaker 5: and it was just racing. I laid there for like
Speaker 5: an hour and I'm like, yeah, this isn't gonna work. Wow,
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's it's not, it's not. Maybe I don't
Speaker 5: know if it's because I'm on still from the show,
Speaker 5: or if it's because the Monster Energy drink that I
Speaker 5: drink when I get up at four o'clock.
Speaker 4: Probably yeah.
Speaker 5: I Anyways, yesterday I came in feeling like I was
Speaker 5: really really about to just fall over, and once the
Speaker 5: show got rolling, I was in a much better place.
Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that that's what happens today.
Speaker 5: And I can already tell within the first you know,
Speaker 5: the first chunk of change we've been on the air. Here,
Speaker 5: I'm already starting to get a little re energized.
Speaker 6: Do you not dare to take a gummy in the
Speaker 6: middle of the day or does that take a while
Speaker 6: to kick in for you? Why do you know me
Speaker 6: so well? I mean it's because I we just had
Speaker 6: the same mind young minds think alike.
Speaker 5: I thought of it yesterday and then I really thought
Speaker 5: of it today and almost did it, but I just
Speaker 5: felt like, you know, like it's it wouldn't have been
Speaker 5: I mean, it wouldn't have been a big deal. I
Speaker 5: probably could have taken half and it would have helped.
Speaker 5: And by the time I needed to be, you know,
Speaker 5: up and at it, getting ready for this show, I
Speaker 5: probably would have been okay. But I was, I mean,
Speaker 5: I was too scared. That's what That's what it came
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 6: You could do the other one, you know, puff puff
Speaker 6: on a doobie or something that may get you asleep
Speaker 6: for like a good hour or two. I just know
Speaker 6: by experience via some people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've just heard that.
Speaker 4: I just heard that rumor.
Speaker 6: And inn Windows suggests that's what will give you a
Speaker 6: nice little nap.
Speaker 5: The good news is tomorrow I'm I'm sleeping in and
Speaker 5: I'll catch back up on sleep. But uh yeah, it's
Speaker 5: not a great feeling to be so exhausted on a Friday.
Speaker 5: But again, as we as we move forward, we here
Speaker 5: in the show, I'm already starting to get the energy levels.
Speaker 6: They're up, We're getting we're did you find what you needed?
Speaker 6: You came in here in a hurry looking for some
Speaker 6: sort of headphone adapter. I'm gonna to find one.
Speaker 5: No, so I'm gonna blame that on the just you know,
Speaker 5: my mind not working the way that it that it
Speaker 5: that it should, probably because of lack of sleep. But
Speaker 5: there's this little adapter that goes on the end of
Speaker 5: headphones and I have one on my on my headphones
Speaker 5: that I use the earbuds, and I guess I've left
Speaker 5: it in the h studio for being in there this morning,
Speaker 5: so you.
Speaker 6: Know when I was because sometimes I like to use that. Uh,
Speaker 6: I like to use that studio ever now and then,
Speaker 6: because I don't know if it's just because it's in
Speaker 6: like the back of our offices, I feel really the cave.
Speaker 4: It's nice. It's like the cave.
Speaker 6: And I tried to use headphones on it the other
Speaker 6: day and there it was a bigger hole that I
Speaker 6: tried putting it into. No, it's that's what it was
Speaker 6: story in my life. Yeah, And I guess I guess
Speaker 6: it's uh that that little adapter does everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's something that I have to have.
Speaker 5: So what I'm doing is I'm actually pulling headphone from
Speaker 5: across the side of the table here on and and
Speaker 5: and it works fun.
Speaker 2: So we made it. We made it work.
Speaker 5: But Anyways, let's get let's get set for the weekend.
Speaker 5: I mean, we've got Super Bowl coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 5: I think it's wishful thinking for a lot.
Speaker 2: Of folks that are just out here predicting the Eagles win.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not really even believing people when they
Speaker 5: say they think the Eagles are gonna win. It's like
Speaker 5: something they're just programmed to say because they're trying to
Speaker 5: speak it into existence because you know, it's anti Chiefs.
Speaker 5: There's no scenario when this game starts that I'll be
Speaker 5: pulling for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: I just don't think that it's possible.
Speaker 5: But I the more I've kind of just sit and
Speaker 5: reflected on this dynasty that.
Speaker 2: They are currently in, I mean, the.
Speaker 5: Only reason legitimately that they're unlikable is that they're just
Speaker 5: too good. And that's got me insecure about myself because
Speaker 5: you know what that means.
Speaker 2: I'm just a hater, but I'm not along with the
Speaker 2: club and a lot of people are.
Speaker 4: So I hate both teams. How about that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's and that's look that that's a big part
Speaker 5: of it. I've often said, and in fact, we talked
Speaker 5: about this a little bit this morning that these two teams,
Speaker 5: I think in the regular season and obviously in the postseason,
Speaker 5: which is why they're here, they were the best two
Speaker 5: teams in the NFL this year. So when you have that,
Speaker 5: that is that's the best case scenario when you don't
Speaker 5: have any real ruining interest, But it also just doesn't
Speaker 5: quite hit the way you needed to hit when you
Speaker 5: really don't like either team. So I'm gonna be pulling
Speaker 5: for the Eagles, but just not a Super Bowl that
Speaker 5: I'm super excited about. And I hate that because again,
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm being greedy as a as a
Speaker 5: fan because I've always said and everybody can disagree. Maybe,
Speaker 5: you know, if you think this matchup is pretty blaw again,
Speaker 5: I just I guess we have a different opinion on
Speaker 5: what blaw is because despite their being two very easy
Speaker 5: to dislike teams, this should give us the best game.
Speaker 6: So sure, I mean it is probably at the end
Speaker 6: of the day, it's the two best teams in the
Speaker 6: AFC and the NFC that's basing.
Speaker 4: Each other for the championship.
Speaker 5: And you know, I think that's what happens from time
Speaker 5: to time, is that you know, maybe you just get
Speaker 5: maybe you just want it to be two different teams
Speaker 5: that are, you know, in that same tier, because this
Speaker 5: is a rematch from two years ago, and that I
Speaker 5: think that's what kind of makes it like Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know like that. I think that does, in
Speaker 5: fact add a little bit of the disinterest. I mean
Speaker 5: to to even use the word disinterest when it comes
Speaker 5: to Super Bowl just sounds insane because it's the most
Speaker 5: watched sporting event every year and always will be. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 5: I am starting to get more and more excited. I'm
Speaker 5: going to try to build something to bet on for
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. Sure, and I I may do some
Speaker 5: prop bets, but man, I just and I'll get into
Speaker 5: this later.
Speaker 2: As far as why I hate it, do it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, and.
Speaker 5: It's just to me, it's like pulling the pulling a
Speaker 5: slot machine. And sure that could be fun too, but.
Speaker 4: Like, hey, hey, now I love slot machine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's the kind of gambling that I don't
Speaker 5: that I don't really like. It's fine, but because it's
Speaker 5: just so blatantly right in your face, based off nothing
Speaker 5: but pure luck, it takes a little bit of the
Speaker 5: joy away. Because when I bet on college hoops or
Speaker 5: college football, NFL and I hit a parlay.
Speaker 2: Really it's the same thing. It's just luck.
Speaker 5: But I like to think that I was, you know,
Speaker 5: the fun is is I guess the strategizing. You know,
Speaker 5: so I might do some prop bets, but you know
Speaker 5: those are just different. Even if they win, it's good,
Speaker 5: but it's you know, it's it's not the same. But anyway,
Speaker 5: it's college basketball. I mean, after this week, this weekend,
Speaker 5: I should say that that's when college basketball steps to
Speaker 5: the forefront.
Speaker 2: Still probably won't be, you know, viewed at an insanely.
Speaker 5: High level as far as the other big sports, college football,
Speaker 5: the NFL, but we'll be getting closer to March, and
Speaker 5: that's when people start to kind of slowly but surely
Speaker 5: start checking out more college hoops and of course everybody
Speaker 5: gets all in to the big dance March madness.
Speaker 2: So some good games this weekend.
Speaker 5: Obviously, the local teams are not going to be playing
Speaker 5: in big time matchups. In fact, I think you've got, yeah,
Speaker 5: you've got the two worst teams, well, the worst team
Speaker 5: in the ACC and the worst team in the SEC.
Speaker 5: That is who Kentucky and Louisville are playing this weekend.
Speaker 5: So for Louisville Chucky Hebburn that that obviously was a
Speaker 5: big talking point yesterday, as we essentially had a funeral
Speaker 5: for his groin without really knowing.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of body part talk.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I mean, and we still don't know much
Speaker 5: more of anything, or really anything at all that's new.
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that to complain or to blame anybody,
Speaker 5: because I mean, I think they're being honest. I don't
Speaker 5: think they're keeping something from us. But the update from
Speaker 5: Pat Kelsey earlier today was that Hepburn is day to
Speaker 5: day and it is a groin injury. His status for
Speaker 5: the game against Miami tomorrow is still up in the air.
Speaker 5: So essentially he is questionable and he is day to
Speaker 5: day and it is a groin and that's I mean,
Speaker 5: that's kind of all we I mean, I would have
Speaker 5: loved to have heard Pat Kelsey say, yeah, he's fine.
Speaker 5: They thought he might have tweaked something, but he's good
Speaker 5: to go, But it also didn't seem that that was
Speaker 5: going to be most likely, so I guess, you know,
Speaker 5: just to know that the status is the same, meaning
Speaker 5: if he wasn't able to go back in the game
Speaker 5: against Boston, college, and now he's listed as questionable and
Speaker 5: he's day to day. I mean, it's kind of like
Speaker 5: we're still really in the exact same spot. But again,
Speaker 5: it could be worse. We could have found out some
Speaker 5: really bad news. But I feel no differently today than
Speaker 5: I did yesterday. Maybe I'm not quite as worried and
Speaker 5: its panic because again, we haven't got any real bad
Speaker 5: news yet. And I think if it was severe enough
Speaker 5: to where like it wash oh, he's not gonna play
Speaker 5: here anymore because this thing is bad. He's gonna need surgery.
Speaker 5: I feel like we would know that by now, and
Speaker 5: I think today would have been the day where they
Speaker 5: just tell us. I mean, there's no reason for them
Speaker 5: to withhold that, and I don't think there's really any
Speaker 5: reason for them to mislead us, as if he is
Speaker 5: good to go, they just don't want to tell us.
Speaker 5: I think this is the transparency we should expect. And
Speaker 5: I bet we'll find out maybe an hour before tip
Speaker 5: tomorrow if he's going to be able to go. Maybe
Speaker 5: we find out a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2: My guess is.
Speaker 5: It'll play out the way that he did today, where
Speaker 5: Jeff Goodman actually talked to Pat Kelsey and then shortly
Speaker 5: after that Pat Kelsey either puts it out via the
Speaker 5: sports information department or something like that. But Louisville, again,
Speaker 5: Miami terrible team, should be able to beat him without Chucky.
Speaker 5: But I mean, Miami's one of those teams that they're
Speaker 5: not terrible because of lack of talent, They're terrible just
Speaker 5: because they're a mess. I mean, that's really the best way,
Speaker 5: the best way to describe it. So, I mean, I'm
Speaker 5: not worried, but Chucky's a really, really important player, and
Speaker 5: it was nice to see that they did play well
Speaker 5: once he did leave the game with that injury. But
Speaker 5: I guess a positive here is that when you are
Speaker 5: going to be potentially without your best player, the guy
Speaker 5: who really is the I mean, he's the key piece
Speaker 5: to your squad, it is nice to know at least
Speaker 5: if it is one game, maybe it's more, but if
Speaker 5: it is just one, it's against a team that is really,
Speaker 5: really bad Miami. They are currently five and seventeen overall.
Speaker 5: They won their first three games against Fairleigh, Dickinson, Binghamton
Speaker 5: and Coppin State, and then they lost their first game
Speaker 5: on November twenty first, and from November twenty first until
Speaker 5: February first, they only won one two games. They beat
Speaker 5: Presbyterian on December fifteenth, and they actually just won a game.
Speaker 5: They're gonna be coming off of a victory, as they
Speaker 5: knocked off Notre Dame on on Saturday a little week ago,
Speaker 5: so they've had the week off again. Jim Laernega stepped
Speaker 5: down again. They've got some decent players. Matthew Cleveland form
Speaker 5: of Florida State player. I mean, Nigel pack is still there,
Speaker 5: believe it or not. I don't know how many games
Speaker 5: he's played in though I know he's been hurt. So
Speaker 5: you know, they're they're not good. I want to act
Speaker 5: like they're loaded with talent, but they do have some
Speaker 5: capable players. And you know, Louisville can never take anybody lightly,
Speaker 5: nor should they, and I don't think they will. But again,
Speaker 5: this could potentially be I guess, the first game you've
Speaker 5: ever played without Chucky, you know, at any point at all.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see here, Kentucky.
Speaker 5: I don't I feel like South Carolina is the worst
Speaker 5: team in the SEC. I keep saying that, assuming that
Speaker 5: it's true, and sure enough, in the Ken Palm they
Speaker 5: are in last play as far as their their record. Well, actually, yeah,
Speaker 5: this isn't kent Palm related. This is just specifically the
Speaker 5: record in the league. They're ten and twelve overall and
Speaker 5: they have not won an SEC game. So again, Kentucky
Speaker 5: coming off their worst performance of the season. They've now
Speaker 5: lost four or five. So really this is this is
Speaker 5: this is good timing if you're Kentucky, and similar to
Speaker 5: Louisville good timing. You know you got if you go,
Speaker 5: you got to go without your point guard. You're doing
Speaker 5: it against a terrible team. And I wouldn't say South
Speaker 5: Carolina is terrible because every loss they have in the
Speaker 5: SEC is to.
Speaker 2: The good teams, tournament teams.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess Vandy is their worst loss, but
Speaker 5: they only lost to Vandy about three Kentucky lost to
Speaker 5: Vanny by more than that, so you know they're not terrible.
Speaker 5: But this will be one that if you somehow don't
Speaker 5: win this, which they will, I mean I can't imagine
Speaker 5: they don't. But if you said don't win this, that's
Speaker 5: where you really would have to start to question, Okay,
Speaker 5: we got some something going on here, like something's changed,
Speaker 5: because both things can be true. Yes, Lamont Butler not
Speaker 5: being available is a big deal.
Speaker 2: They miss him. He's a good player.
Speaker 5: Take that guy off of any team that meaning that
Speaker 5: what his value is, and they're not going to be
Speaker 5: the same, especially when you are a team that is
Speaker 5: bad defensively, he's clearly your best defender. So again that's accurate.
Speaker 5: But also they shouldn't in stretches be as bad, especially
Speaker 5: defensively when he's not there. So again, both things can
Speaker 5: be true. They have wins at Tennessee at Gonzaga without
Speaker 5: Lamont Butler, So I mean, even if this is a
Speaker 5: close game, you probably wouldn't be panicked or maybe what
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. It'd certainly be better than losing the game.
Speaker 5: But this Kentucky team, it'd be a stretch to say
Speaker 5: they're in some kind of major funk. But again, they're
Speaker 5: lost to Arkansas and Ole Miss. Those were I mean,
Speaker 5: those were games where, really, if you think about it,
Speaker 5: they never were really in control of any of either
Speaker 5: game at any point. And then there's also some other
Speaker 5: really good games going on tomorrow that we'll get into
Speaker 5: throughout the throughout the afternoon today. Also, we've got the
Speaker 5: NBA trade line, NBA trade deadline. I can't speak. I'm
Speaker 5: telling you the NBA trade deadline has come and gone.
Speaker 5: And I what fascinates me about the trade deadline and
Speaker 5: just these NBA trades that aren't even really substantial, like
Speaker 5: ones that you probably don't even realize happened. But there
Speaker 5: have been three guys, four guys I guess now, that
Speaker 5: have been on like multiple teams within the same or
Speaker 5: like three or four teams in a two days period.
Speaker 5: And I just I would love to be a fly
Speaker 5: on the wall whenever those negotiations are are, Like is
Speaker 5: it just to offload contracts? Like why would you trade
Speaker 5: for a guy and then five minutes later send them
Speaker 5: to a different team. I mean, again, I'm assuming it's
Speaker 5: because it's just maybe part of the transaction to cut
Speaker 5: some some excess costs for something. I don't know, But
Speaker 5: imagine not knowing who you work for, Like if you
Speaker 5: were a Dennis Schroeder, who I believe was on six.
Speaker 2: Teams or something like that.
Speaker 5: I mean, if I was in an airport, I would say, look,
Speaker 5: I'm not leaving. I'm waiting till the trade deadline ends
Speaker 5: before I get on a plane terminal. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: it's crazy, crazy crazy stuff. Also, Indiana, they are moving
Speaker 5: on from Mike Woodson. He's going to retire or he's
Speaker 5: he's pondering retirement. Pondering the retirement Mike Woodson is, which
Speaker 5: I love that I'd love to be wildly unsuccessful at
Speaker 5: something and then just well, I'm pondering retirement.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to you know, get fired or quit.
Speaker 2: I just want to retire.
Speaker 6: I mean, what's in early withdraw He's just withdrawing his
Speaker 6: name from consideration.
Speaker 5: And I think Indiana, I mean they should be able
Speaker 5: to go get Chris Beard.
Speaker 2: They should go. They should be able to go get Bruce.
Speaker 5: Pearl and like, those are the kind of guys that would,
Speaker 5: in fact, I think have no trouble getting Indiana back
Speaker 5: to being a consistent top ten team. I mean, indian
Speaker 5: has always had the recent sources to be very good.
Speaker 5: They just really have whiffed at the coaching hires since
Speaker 5: Bob Knight left. All right, quick break, We'll keep this
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Speaker 5: with us as we get you set for the weekend
Speaker 5: super Bowl weekend, a big weekend of college basketball. I
Speaker 5: didn't mention this earlier, but we got it to talk
Speaker 5: about Lamar Jackson not winning the NFL Mvpugh. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't really know what can be said that it's
Speaker 5: going to make anybody feel any better. But he not
Speaker 5: only didn't win, but one person voted him forth, which
Speaker 5: that was former Bears quarterback Jim Miller. And by the way,
Speaker 5: I did not realize that there was such transparency.
Speaker 2: With who votes for who, which I actually.
Speaker 5: Like that puts your name on it, right, Yeah, he'll
Speaker 5: be hiding Jim Miller.
Speaker 4: It sounds like a construction worker somewhere.
Speaker 5: So I'm trying to see if there's yeah, because there's
Speaker 5: an article here at awful Announcing dot com that yeah,
Speaker 5: they wrote up they wrote about it, but they said
Speaker 5: he's yet to comment on his vote on social media.
Speaker 5: But apparently he has a serious XM show, and it
Speaker 5: sounds like they're they're just this says there are gonna
Speaker 5: be a lot of people that are looking to listen
Speaker 5: to him whenever his show is on because they want
Speaker 5: to hear what he.
Speaker 2: Has to say.
Speaker 5: Is because look, it's one thing to vote for Josh Allen,
Speaker 5: and Josh Josh Allen had a phenomenal season. I can't
Speaker 5: really in any way claim that he's not a great
Speaker 5: player that was deserving of all the praise. I just
Speaker 5: I don't know how, like I wouldn't have well, I
Speaker 5: don't know I was gonna say, I wouldn't have an
Speaker 5: issue with Lamar not getting it if he already hadn't
Speaker 5: won it twice. And this, you know, this year was
Speaker 5: better than the two years for him that he that
Speaker 5: he won it previously. So therefore, like if that was
Speaker 5: good enough for Lamar to win it before, it certainly
Speaker 5: should be good enough now in a year where he
Speaker 5: was better than he'd ever been and know, by the way,
Speaker 5: he was better than Josh Allen in every single statistic.
Speaker 5: And if you want to bring up the playoffs, I
Speaker 5: mean you can, but that is not at all what
Speaker 5: this is about. And in fact, don't they vote before,
Speaker 5: like do they give him the ballot and say, hey,
Speaker 5: you need to give us this vote on January eighteenth,
Speaker 5: But you need to make sure when you vote you
Speaker 5: only keep in mind the regular season, because I don't
Speaker 5: think that would be right, because I don't think people
Speaker 5: would be able.
Speaker 2: To do that, you know what I mean, because.
Speaker 5: We really evaluate dudes more so whenever they play in
Speaker 5: the playoffs. It's just how it works. So either way,
Speaker 5: I mean, there's really I mean again, I just chalk
Speaker 5: it up to Lamar being a victim of his own
Speaker 5: success because he has set the bar so high that
Speaker 5: the voters, I mean, they're willing to give him the
Speaker 5: first team All Pro Quarterback, but a lot of people
Speaker 5: who vote for both that and the NFL Player of
Speaker 5: the Year they decided it's just weird how Lamar ended
Speaker 5: up really not getting any specific award other than first
Speaker 5: Team All Pro Quarterback.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure to motivate him.
Speaker 5: But when I say he's a victim of his own success,
Speaker 5: he's just set the bar so high that even when
Speaker 5: he does, in fact statistically have a better year than
Speaker 5: he's ever had after already having to him, it still
Speaker 5: just wasn't enough to wow those who.
Speaker 2: Vote, because you know they're getting bored with how good
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's the first quarterback in eleven seasons to
Speaker 5: be named First team All Pro and not win the MVP.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a historic season that really we're only
Speaker 5: just gonna remember, right because there's gonna be no specific
Speaker 5: award attached to it. And that's just crazy considering how
Speaker 5: great he actually was. I mean, he's the first quarterback
Speaker 5: to ever throw for four thousand yards and rush for
Speaker 5: nine hundred plus yards, first quarterback to ever have forty
Speaker 5: plus passing touchdowns and fewer than five interceptions. His passer
Speaker 5: rating was one hundred and nineteen point six, which is
Speaker 5: the fourth best in NFL history. Again, it's a historic
Speaker 5: season that resulted in nothing in the NFL Honors Awards
Speaker 5: show last night. No MVP, no Offensive Player of the Year, nothing,
Speaker 5: and it is I mean, it's wild, but.
Speaker 2: I guess there's I mean, I can't think of any.
Speaker 5: Other excuse because the people who've voted, who voted for
Speaker 5: him twice when he's won it and it wasn't close
Speaker 5: in the other two years, I just can't believe that
Speaker 5: they're against Lamar Are they voted for him before? What
Speaker 5: would change their mind now? They had to have been
Speaker 5: just that impressed with Josh Allen, and I suppose the
Speaker 5: narrative that that doubt that Buffalo was pushing. I guess
Speaker 5: it worked and that was that, and they were strategic
Speaker 5: in marketing that you know, hey, this guy, he's the
Speaker 5: only reason we win.
Speaker 2: And look, that may be true.
Speaker 5: They lost Stefon Diggs, but other teams have lost Stefon
Speaker 5: Diggs and gotten better. That's actually happened really everywhere he's been.
Speaker 5: But he is a really good player's first talent. And
Speaker 5: they didn't really add any big names. But I you know, again,
Speaker 5: I don't want to be that guy to talk out
Speaker 5: of both sides of my mouth because I don't think
Speaker 5: that Josh Allen was undeserving of all the praise. I
Speaker 5: just don't think he was good enough to where you
Speaker 5: could say, even though Lamar still didn't wow you, because
Speaker 5: you're just you know, you're used to him doing this now.
Speaker 5: I just don't think Josh Allen statistically was really that
Speaker 5: much better. There's not a sa I mean again, keep
Speaker 5: in mind, Lamar had more passing yards, more passing touchdowns,
Speaker 5: fewer interceptions, a higher completion percentage, more rushing yards, a
Speaker 5: higher rushing average, and a head to head win in
Speaker 5: the regular season, all of that against the I mean again,
Speaker 5: all those numbers were better than the guy who they
Speaker 5: gave the award to. So the more I talk about it,
Speaker 5: the more I just seem bitter and you know, it sucks.
Speaker 5: But again, the real reason how you can do all
Speaker 5: that and not win is because people are just so
Speaker 5: used to you being great, and in order to get
Speaker 5: yourself back in the mix for that award, you're gonna
Speaker 5: have to you know, you're gonna have to take it
Speaker 5: to an even higher level, which I don't know if
Speaker 5: he will, but wouldn't shock me if he does, because
Speaker 5: you know, he's Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: He's been pretty special, all right.
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Speaker 5: seven ninety So the Indiana.
Speaker 2: Job is going to open, I don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen all kinds of different reporting out
Speaker 5: there as far as what you know, what they're gonna
Speaker 5: do or I guess really more than anything, how they're
Speaker 5: gonna word it right, because it sounds like this will
Speaker 5: be his last season, but it also sounds like he's
Speaker 5: going to finish this season, and I guess it really
Speaker 5: just comes down to them working out the exit, and
Speaker 5: to be fair to Woodson, at least he'll have somewhat
Speaker 5: of a graceful exit, meaning he's he's conceding here right
Speaker 5: like they've been able to talk him into bowing out,
Speaker 5: and if he said no, the hell with you, guys,
Speaker 5: I've got a contract and I want to honor it.
Speaker 5: Well at that point they would just fire him right now.
Speaker 5: So a graceful exit is the best way to go
Speaker 5: when you're already in an awkward situation that will really
Speaker 5: never be the same because Mike Woodson, a guy who
Speaker 5: played for Bob Knight, obviously has deep roots in Indiana.
Speaker 5: But for here on out, nobody's going to think about
Speaker 5: his playing days. They're going to think about he came
Speaker 5: back to coaching it didn't work out, And that's the
Speaker 5: risk you take when you hire one of your own.
Speaker 5: When people bring up Kenny Payne down the line, I'm
Speaker 5: not even sure if people will remember that he played here.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you really think about it. But like
Speaker 5: I know, I don't think of Kenny Payne and think
Speaker 5: about him being a former player here one because I didn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't remember him playing here.
Speaker 5: But also just because I mean we thought the guy
Speaker 5: we hired was gonna be able to connect and understand
Speaker 5: the program better than anybody, because you know, he played here,
Speaker 5: and in fact, I don't think he was one percent
Speaker 5: compatible with the way everybody sees this program. He was
Speaker 5: almost like the biggest outsider in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 5: So again, that's the risk you take when you hire
Speaker 5: one of your own. You know that when it if
Speaker 5: it doesn't work out really under any even if it
Speaker 5: is a graceful exit or if it's a messy divorce,
Speaker 5: it's still going to forever change how you know, how
Speaker 5: we view said coach, and again that that that all
Speaker 5: comes down to if it doesn't work out, and clearly
Speaker 5: with Indiana and Mike Woodson it's not working out. So
Speaker 5: when other jobs are open later, I don't think there's
Speaker 5: gonna be a bigger job than Indiana opening. I don't,
Speaker 5: at least I can't. I can't think of it. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't know what it would be. Sometimes guys just retire, though,
Speaker 5: so maybe that'll happen, because in the last few years
Speaker 5: there's been a bunch of coaches just random out of nowhere.
Speaker 5: You find out they're just deciding to step down because
Speaker 5: they just don't want to do it anymore. Starting I
Speaker 5: think it started with with Jay Wright as far as
Speaker 5: just kind of out of nowhere, and then of course
Speaker 5: Shoyshsky did his retirement tour, and you know, you've had
Speaker 5: countless others that just decide to walk away, and you know,
Speaker 5: there's neally many left that I think would I guess
Speaker 5: if like Izzoh decided to just walk that would be
Speaker 5: that would be I guess another guy that's similar to
Speaker 5: that era, that that that just doesn't want to do
Speaker 5: it now that they have to deal with Nil and
Speaker 5: the portal and whatnot. But Izzo is actually thriving this year.
Speaker 5: He's got a really, really, really good team. So who
Speaker 5: these who these programs go after is going to be
Speaker 5: very intriguing to me because one thing that I that
Speaker 5: I think will we'll slow down a little bit when
Speaker 5: it comes to hires is guys that are assistant coaches
Speaker 5: at really successful programs that have worked under really good
Speaker 5: coaches but have never been a head coach before. Think
Speaker 5: about that, likes and I'm trying to think of again,
Speaker 5: because all these legendary coaches have retired in recent years,
Speaker 5: there's really not a longtime assistant sitting there for somebody
Speaker 5: to go pluck. But honestly, that's what Kenny was. Kenny
Speaker 5: was a longtime assistant and never decided to take a
Speaker 5: chance and go be a head coach.
Speaker 2: And you know, we now know he now knows he's
Speaker 2: not a head coach.
Speaker 5: So I believe in a previous era, maybe I don't know,
Speaker 5: eight nine years ago, maybe right before NIL and the
Speaker 5: portal and whatnot, I think you would see a school
Speaker 5: more likely, like like a Florida state that's open now
Speaker 5: in Miami of Virginia, because there's really not some big
Speaker 5: sitting up and coming dude that's just you know, primed
Speaker 5: for another. Like there's no Shock as Smart from VCU.
Speaker 5: There's no Brad Stevens from Butler. Not to say there's
Speaker 5: not coaches that could have success like that, but like
Speaker 5: there's just not this buzz name that you know any
Speaker 5: moment is about to go and take a big job. Honestly,
Speaker 5: Dusty May was the last guy to do that, and
Speaker 5: he's not Michigan, so I think think guy. I think again,
Speaker 5: right before the NIL era started, that window of time,
Speaker 5: I think you would be more likely to see a
Speaker 5: Miami or a Virginia hire a great coach's top assistant
Speaker 5: and just hope that they carry over that success. But
Speaker 5: I think now you're seeing guys like Nate Oates, who
Speaker 5: was a successful coach at Buffalo, Well he got the
Speaker 5: Alabama job. Look at him now. I mean, you can
Speaker 5: use Pat Kelsey as an example. We'll see how things
Speaker 5: finish up this year with Pat in Louisville. But he's
Speaker 5: a guy that was successful at Winthrope, successful at Charleston,
Speaker 5: and you know, he just got an opportunity to take
Speaker 5: what he was doing and succeeding and try to do
Speaker 5: it at this this higher level at Louisville.
Speaker 2: And again, so far, so good. And it's not to
Speaker 2: say that those guys.
Speaker 5: At a Charleston or at a Winthrop years ago wouldn't
Speaker 5: get an opportunity to you know, to end up at
Speaker 5: an ACC, a top ACC job or a top Big
Speaker 5: ten job. But I feel like they had actually another
Speaker 5: step on the ladder at that point, right, like you'd have.
Speaker 4: To go to.
Speaker 2: From you have to go from Charleston to.
Speaker 5: Let me think of a like Charleston to which a
Speaker 5: toss state to then maybe get the job at a
Speaker 5: Michigan or a Virginia and I just don't you know,
Speaker 5: I think with these guys not having these larger than
Speaker 5: life personalities, they don't have decades of experience of landing
Speaker 5: McDonald's all Americans.
Speaker 2: That used to be a real red flag.
Speaker 5: And look it might still be now, but but you
Speaker 5: don't have to be that larger than life guy if
Speaker 5: you have a gig that's got good resources within ile money,
Speaker 5: because that now can can make up for that. And
Speaker 5: then there's some coaches that really I mean, I think
Speaker 5: Pat Kelsey just given what we know about him as
Speaker 5: far as his energy, his personality, I mean, you could
Speaker 5: tell he's got this fan base supporting him and believing
Speaker 5: in him, and clearly these players are a reflection of him.
Speaker 5: So you know, Pat to me, and I'm biased, I suppose,
Speaker 5: but he's one of those guys that, you know, I
Speaker 5: think he probably always would have been a good recruiter
Speaker 5: anywhere because I think he's pretty good at that exact thing.
Speaker 5: But now he's walking into a living room and or
Speaker 5: you know, he's wearing he's he's walking into a living
Speaker 5: room with a polo on with the Louisville logo on
Speaker 5: it instead of a Charleston logo, same thing when he's
Speaker 5: walking into these AAU tournaments across the country. It's a
Speaker 5: little bit different. So with Indiana, I think they're one
Speaker 5: of the last schools that could maybe take I mean,
Speaker 5: I think Indiana will be a rare situation. That's why Bor,
Speaker 5: That's why I went into the whole thing about the
Speaker 5: other jobs that are open, because I don't think that
Speaker 5: these other jobs that are currently open or even maybe
Speaker 5: going to open after the season, would be able to
Speaker 5: pluck a Bruce Pearl from Auburn or a or a
Speaker 5: Chris Beard from ole Miss. Because Indiana is a legitimate,
Speaker 5: elite job. It's not the best, but it's up I mean,
Speaker 5: it's it's up there. And clearly, if you're at Auburn
Speaker 5: and ole Miss, you're making a lot of money because
Speaker 5: you're in the SEC, and the SEC is a loaded
Speaker 5: league right now. But these guys know, Indiana is different.
Speaker 5: It's a basketball blue blood. It's a dynasty.
Speaker 2: I mean, not a dynasty, but it's a yeah, blue blood.
Speaker 2: I mean, and I mean.
Speaker 5: They've they are a basketball school. And I think that
Speaker 5: really doesn't matter to some coaches. And that's okay, Like
Speaker 5: some coaches are totally fine knowing, Hey, I could go
Speaker 5: to a Final Four every year and my fans are
Speaker 5: still going to Cary way more about football.
Speaker 2: Like some coaches don't worry about that. Other coaches do.
Speaker 5: And I'm not sure if that's something that like Chris
Speaker 5: Beard and Bruce Pearl are worried about, but I know
Speaker 5: that they value what it means to be at a
Speaker 5: place like Indiana to where here's the real deal. Kurt
Speaker 5: Signette could be going to the playoff every year. If
Speaker 5: Indiana is good in basketball, they're going to get way
Speaker 5: more attention. It's just different. So I really do believe
Speaker 5: if they go after and they pay, both those guys
Speaker 5: would leave.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 5: And it's kind of a rare situation because if you're
Speaker 5: if you're Bruce Pearl and you're at Texas instead of Auburn,
Speaker 5: you wouldn't go to Indiana, even though Indiana is a
Speaker 5: better job. At least I don't think you would. If
Speaker 5: you're Chris Beard and you're at Florida, you may still
Speaker 5: leave because Florida's I mean, Florida's had success in basketball
Speaker 5: and really never seemed to have great support. And I
Speaker 5: think Chris Bard's got a better chance to have been
Speaker 5: support at Ole Miss than Florida. Maybe they're not a
Speaker 5: good example, but Tennessee, Like Tennessee's not a basketball school,
Speaker 5: but it's clearly a good program that's had a lot.
Speaker 2: Of success recently. So if Chris Beard's at.
Speaker 5: Tennessee instead of All Miss, maybe he does stay there
Speaker 5: and not go to Indiana. But I kind of feel
Speaker 5: like Indiana has an opportunity here to really change everything.
Speaker 5: I mean, I was trying to think of the last
Speaker 5: because they had some decent years with Tom Crean, but
Speaker 5: I kind of feel like the years they were supposed
Speaker 5: to be really good, they underachieved and fell short. And
Speaker 5: then the years that you kind of felt like they
Speaker 5: were going to be terrible, he exceeded expectations, but they
Speaker 5: still weren't that good. So since Bob Knight, who has
Speaker 5: not coached there in twenty five years, they had Mike
Speaker 5: Davis from two thousand to two thousand and six and
Speaker 5: he won fifty nine of his games and he made
Speaker 5: four tournaments, but man like it was just one year
Speaker 5: where he ended up getting all the way of the
Speaker 5: championship game in his first year really with a Bob
Speaker 5: nineteen then they hired Kelvin Sampson. Man that that's really
Speaker 5: something you got to consider.
Speaker 2: I mean that that.
Speaker 5: That hire was in two yeah, two thousand and six. Like,
Speaker 5: if Kelvin Sampson got hired in two thousand and six,
Speaker 5: really I would imagine he'd still be at Indiana because
Speaker 5: I think he would have succeeded in a big way there.
Speaker 5: And what he was accused of doing, I guess did
Speaker 5: do that got him in trouble, Like the thought like
Speaker 5: I'm gonna look it up like what I think it
Speaker 5: might have been, like sending text messages when you know
Speaker 5: that you're not supposed to and just think about that
Speaker 5: now being something that gets you fired.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy, but that's what happened.
Speaker 5: And had that not happened, Indiana for nineteen for them,
Speaker 5: for the last nineteen years, might have been one of
Speaker 5: the most consistently elite programs in the country. Because again,
Speaker 5: Kelvin Sampson is killing it at Houston, and the only
Speaker 5: reason he wasn't your coach for longer than you know,
Speaker 5: a couple of years is because of because of this
Speaker 5: stupid and sibilly rules. So after Calvin Sampson, I totally
Speaker 5: forgot they hired Dan Dockisch. Did you know that Austin
Speaker 5: that Dan Dockicch was Indiana's coach briefly?
Speaker 4: No, I did not.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry, I guess they didn't hire him. My mistake.
Speaker 5: What they did is that he took over for Samson
Speaker 5: when Sampson got fired. So Dan Docas went three. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Doctach went three and four in his seven games as
Speaker 5: the coach. And by the way, Kelvin Sampson was good
Speaker 5: when he was there at Indian and he was forty
Speaker 5: three and fifteen, won seventy four percent of his games
Speaker 5: in a little less than a two year stretch. And
Speaker 5: then of course they hired Crean, and with Crean, I
Speaker 5: still feel like it took Crean too long to get good. However,
Speaker 5: it was different back then, right, Crean couldn't Crean inherited
Speaker 5: a team that really actually started walk On's because everybody
Speaker 5: left because of the Sampson stuff. And you couldn't use
Speaker 5: anil to go get players. You couldn't go to the
Speaker 5: portal and build your roster. So again, he does deserve
Speaker 5: a little bit of a pass because he did inherit
Speaker 5: something that he could not quit, he could not fix
Speaker 5: quickly like you can now in college basketball. But they
Speaker 5: didn't have a winning season until his fourth year, and
Speaker 5: that was in twenty twelve. That was the good team.
Speaker 5: That was the That was a team that lost to
Speaker 5: Kentucky in the Sweet sixteen. And then the next year
Speaker 5: they were a one seed in twenty thirteen with Oladipo
Speaker 5: and Jordan Holes and they lost in the Sweet sixteen
Speaker 5: and got upset by Syracuse because they couldn't get out
Speaker 5: of the zone. And after that, Tom Creane coached a
Speaker 5: couple more years, a few more years, and he did
Speaker 5: go back to the Sweet sixteen when he beat Kentucky,
Speaker 5: but there was just never any consistency.
Speaker 2: Any good season.
Speaker 5: Was followed by a bad one right right after that
Speaker 5: Sweet sixteen appearance. He went eighteen and sixteen, seven and
Speaker 5: eleven in the Big Ten. So cream was there a
Speaker 5: long time, and he won fifty five percent of his games,
Speaker 5: So he's I mean, he wasn't he wasn't awful, but man,
Speaker 5: he wasn't anywhere near as good as Indiana needs their
Speaker 5: coach to be. I mean, even in the last six years,
Speaker 5: whenever he was well established and no longer I mean
Speaker 5: no longer relying on Walkon's because of the previous team
Speaker 5: that he inherited. So I mean, he just wasn't good
Speaker 5: enough at the end of the day. So after Tom Crean,
Speaker 5: that's when you went to Archie Miller. I thought that
Speaker 5: was gonna be really, really successful, just because I thought, man,
Speaker 5: if Archie Miller can win it Dayton, he can win
Speaker 5: it Indiana. And man, that couldn't have been worse. That
Speaker 5: was just a terrible fit. And I think, you know,
Speaker 5: Archie's one of those guys that was a good coach
Speaker 5: at Dayton, had some good years, but he won three
Speaker 5: games in the NAA tournament in two seasons. He went
Speaker 5: to the Elite eight in fourteen, and that was just
Speaker 5: a run. Like that team wasn't that good. That wasn't
Speaker 5: even one of his better teams. And that's that's I
Speaker 5: get why we do it, but it is really stupid
Speaker 5: if you think about it. We value way too much
Speaker 5: on one time, random tournament runs that really are are
Speaker 5: not luck. But like it's one time, it doesn't necessarily
Speaker 5: mean that that guy's an elite coach based off of
Speaker 5: three games in the two weeks in a two week period.
Speaker 5: So at Indiana, Archie won fifty three percent of his
Speaker 5: games and never made the tournament. However, believe he would
Speaker 5: have made it in the year where we didn't have
Speaker 5: a tournament because of COVID. But let's not act like
Speaker 5: that was a great year. They were nine and eleven
Speaker 5: in the Big Ten. So like Indiana even and by
Speaker 5: the way, here's what's crazy. I think both some of
Speaker 5: in fact, a lot of Crean's teams and maybe every
Speaker 5: Archie Miller team. When you look at their personnel, they
Speaker 5: weren't elite, but like they still should have been better
Speaker 5: than they were, Like there were some good players that
Speaker 5: came through Indiana. Like what did Indiana get out of
Speaker 5: the Romeo Langford experience? Because he was a good freshman.
Speaker 5: I mean, he was a good player. A lot of hype, right,
Speaker 5: but I mean, and he certainly didn't pan out in
Speaker 5: the NBA, which is kind of crazy how quickly his
Speaker 5: NBA career ended. But either way, like in college, he
Speaker 5: was good, and like it was a forgettable experience because
Speaker 5: you know, I mean jack Jackson Trace Jackson Davis said
Speaker 5: his name, I mean, he was JD.
Speaker 4: He was elite.
Speaker 5: He was an elite player, and they really never got
Speaker 5: much for it. So Indiana, in my opinion, has always
Speaker 5: just been getting the coaching thing wrong. And sometimes they
Speaker 5: get it way wrong. Sometimes they you know, unexpectedly get
Speaker 5: it wrong. Like Archie Miller. I feel like was a
Speaker 5: decent decision, good decision at the time, but you know,
Speaker 5: it didn't work out. So if they go get Chris
Speaker 5: Beard to Bruce Pearl, easier said than done. But I
Speaker 5: believe they could get them. I mean, I think that's
Speaker 5: really all that Indiana would be missing in order to
Speaker 5: get their program to where they're not just you know,
Speaker 5: making the tournament consistently.
Speaker 2: They should be really.
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Speaker 5: Day, I guess it makes sense that my voice would
Speaker 5: be going out with seven seven ish hours of radio
Speaker 5: per day the last the last few days and make yeah,
Speaker 5: it makes sense my voice would would be would be fading.
Speaker 5: But that's not good timing. I actually have to give
Speaker 5: a speech tomorrow, which.
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm so so excited for tomorrow, and I'm
Speaker 5: I'm still just congratulations, thank you.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate that.
Speaker 5: It's it's clearly corny to to some, but I will.
Speaker 5: I mean, I can't, I can't even put into words
Speaker 5: how how honored I am and how.
Speaker 2: How special it is to me.
Speaker 5: And it's and it's it's not just because of you know,
Speaker 5: they're acknowledging me when I played basketball at the school
Speaker 5: that I you know, that I went to.
Speaker 2: And then by the way, that's I'm very appreciative of
Speaker 2: that too.
Speaker 5: But this is where it gets kind of you know,
Speaker 5: corny to some, is that I kind of feel like
Speaker 5: where I went to school in North Bullet High School,
Speaker 5: like it is, it is a huge part of me
Speaker 5: for more than, you know, for reasons more so than
Speaker 5: just the fact that I went there four years and
Speaker 5: I played basketball. But my dad was a part of
Speaker 5: the second graduating class in school history. So you know,
Speaker 5: he's signor a coffee Yeah, seven nineteen classes seventy nine,
Speaker 5: and he won the first district championship when he played
Speaker 5: basketball there, and he was he was a lot better
Speaker 5: than I was. I mean, he had thirty eight points
Speaker 5: a couple of times, and they didn't have a three
Speaker 5: point line back then. He was he was, He was
Speaker 5: a baller, and my mother, who of course went was
Speaker 5: was obviously they were together in high school, got married
Speaker 5: and and created this this magnificent man you're listening to
Speaker 5: right now. But she graduated a year later, and she
Speaker 5: was she was the homecoming queen in nineteen eighty. So,
Speaker 5: you know, I remember it in very early age that
Speaker 5: I would run into people in the community that I
Speaker 5: grew up because that's where we lived, where they where
Speaker 5: they grew up as well. And I would meet people
Speaker 5: who who knew my parents or knew of them, and
Speaker 5: or it would be it would be weird sometimes whenever
Speaker 5: I would I would say my name, and they say
Speaker 5: are you Who's your dad? And I would say Mark Coffee,
Speaker 5: and and uh, who's your mom? And I would say
Speaker 5: Patty Coffee, And then they would make the you know,
Speaker 5: there was no social media, so people would then't realize
Speaker 5: when they would meet kids. Oh my gosh. Mark and
Speaker 5: Patty ended up getting married and they had a kid.
Speaker 5: So the family that lives at the Maxwell use, but
Speaker 5: people would tell me how how how great my dad
Speaker 5: was a basketball and how how my mom was great.
Speaker 5: She was captain the cheerleading team, and again she was
Speaker 5: homecoming Quinn. I guess she was pretty popular. And you know,
Speaker 5: I remember as a young at a young age, thinking, man,
Speaker 5: that's really cool that like these people really thought highly
Speaker 5: of my parents. And you know, I knew I was
Speaker 5: going to go to school there, and basketball became my
Speaker 5: life when I was growing up. It was something that
Speaker 5: I was just absolutely obsessed with. I don't really have
Speaker 5: a whole lot of memories that that vividly stand out
Speaker 5: about my childhood that are not about basketball, because it's
Speaker 5: just what I was obsessed with. I have a very
Speaker 5: addictive personality, and that was just my first love and
Speaker 5: just something that was a huge part of my life. So,
Speaker 5: you know, I I had a good basketball career. We
Speaker 5: won district championship, and to be the first father son
Speaker 5: duo to play at the school, Uh, it was was
Speaker 5: really really awesome. And again it's I'm sure it's corny
Speaker 5: to some, but to go into the Hall of Fame
Speaker 5: this weekend is uh something I'm excited about.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.