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Speaker 3: I'm really excited today. I'm kind of shout out of
Speaker 3: a can. We got the great aj Benza aj Benzi
Speaker 3: from New York City, the New York Daily News, what
Speaker 3: was it?
Speaker 1: Mysteries and Scandals, Mysteries and Scandals on the E Channel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I'm.
Speaker 4: A huge fan AJ Benz. Tell tell audience, AJ are
Speaker 4: you there?
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks Ed, thanks for having me. Well, yeah, those
Speaker 1: were big up the Daily News back in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Those are fond, fond memories for me. They still remain
Speaker 1: the most fun, the greatest days I've had in my life.
Speaker 1: There was nothing better than writing a column for New
Speaker 1: York City every day, you know, during the tabloid war,
Speaker 1: the post against the news, and obviously the nineties were
Speaker 1: right for every scandal that's now being played on TV
Speaker 1: screens and movie screens. But to cover the og Simpson trial,
Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson trials, Tanya Hardy, Nancy Terrigan, Menendez Brothers,
Speaker 1: Jeohnny Risatchi assassination, I mean, they're all big again. But
Speaker 1: back in the nineties, I was there for all of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, it's history, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, you can catch AJ Benza. He's got a podcast
Speaker 3: right now. Fame is a Bitch.
Speaker 4: You can find it on iTunes, But if you just
Speaker 4: google Fame is a Bitch, you can find it all
Speaker 4: over the place.
Speaker 3: And I just started listening yesterday and oh, I got
Speaker 3: to give a warning.
Speaker 4: It's addictive, you know, That's what I've heard.
Speaker 1: I get that from a lot of people. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm new to the podcast game. I'm actually it will
Speaker 1: be about a year. But the show that you hear
Speaker 1: now is very quite different than the show that I
Speaker 1: first put out back last April. I wanted to do
Speaker 1: a show where I would bring up a scandal every week.
Speaker 1: And because I did one hundred and seventy two episodes
Speaker 1: of mysteries and scandals for E I figured there's so
Speaker 1: many more to choose from. And every week I do
Speaker 1: anything from the Black Dahlia to Fatty Arbuckle to tag
Speaker 1: End Thwistle jumping off to Hollywood sign There's one hundreds
Speaker 1: of them. But then something happened in August and September,
Speaker 1: and that was the Harvey Weinstein scandal, and then the
Speaker 1: Me Too movements and the Times of movements and the
Speaker 1: pedophilia allegations, and Hollywood is just spinning out of control.
Speaker 1: And since I know all these people, I've been out
Speaker 1: in LA for twenty one years now, I know all
Speaker 1: these people. I know the President of the United States
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I know, I knew Harvey Wearnington. I still
Speaker 1: talk to Harvey Weinstein. So suddenly my show is now
Speaker 1: just me sounding off on whatever's whatever's in the news
Speaker 1: that pertains to politics, Hollywood, pretty much topical stuff. And
Speaker 1: I'm really honest. I don't pull any punches, and I
Speaker 1: intertwined my personal stories around the news I've lived. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what I'm most happy about the way I've
Speaker 1: lived my life. I have a lot of personal stories
Speaker 1: with people. Have a big name dropper, so if you
Speaker 1: hate name dropping, don't listen. And I'm I don't run
Speaker 1: out of stuff to say. I'm doing okay so far,
Speaker 1: so the show is getting big. I'm not having a
Speaker 1: good time.
Speaker 4: Well me, that's get this now.
Speaker 3: You started off with the catchphrase fame as a bitch,
Speaker 3: because I guess you're.
Speaker 4: Covering famous people. But now that you're famous, how do
Speaker 4: you feel about that?
Speaker 1: Uh? You know, that's a funny word, fame. I actually
Speaker 1: the initial phrase was same, ain't a a bitch? That's
Speaker 1: what we said on E That's where the title of
Speaker 1: my first book was. But then, yeah, I'm not famous,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm infamous. I've got notoriety. I'm celebrity, like I'm
Speaker 1: a you know, a celebrity of Jason. You know, people
Speaker 1: know me. But now I'm on the I'm on the
Speaker 1: other side of that because there are people will never
Speaker 1: knew I mean in the nineties who are now old
Speaker 1: enough and interested enough in celebrity and scandals and what
Speaker 1: have you. So there's a whole new generation of people
Speaker 1: that have started to really get into that side of Hollywood.
Speaker 1: So I'm new to them, and thanks to the Internet,
Speaker 1: they've been able to go back and read about me.
Speaker 1: But I don't know about famous. I mean, to me,
Speaker 1: famous is big house on the hill. You know, a
Speaker 1: couple of TV shows, You got money, you got to
Speaker 1: get Jaguar, and I don't have that. I live a
Speaker 1: pretty simple life with my wife and two kids. But
Speaker 1: it was the time in my life when I was
Speaker 1: on my way to getting those things. When I first
Speaker 1: got to LA I had two shows, you know, a
Speaker 1: book deal, a movie, dating celebrity. So I was definitely
Speaker 1: on that trajectory. And then different things happen. Not everybody
Speaker 1: gets through the hurdles and gets over the hurdles, and
Speaker 1: you get knocked down quite a bit. In this town.
Speaker 1: But you got to keep getting up and moving forward.
Speaker 1: And I've done that. So am I a celebrity? Am
Speaker 1: I famous? I think I'm more infamous, But I'm still going.
Speaker 1: I'm still coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah here you now, one thing I noticed with the podcast, right,
Speaker 3: you do attack this subject of pedophilia and celebrity pedophilia, and.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's kind of a kiss of death though, man like,
Speaker 3: because you know, when I do auditions and I'm talking
Speaker 3: to different people, you know, by doing different stuff opera
Speaker 3: and report on TV, a documentary series and stuff, and
Speaker 3: when I start telling them that I covered those topics,
Speaker 3: they don't want to touch it.
Speaker 1: I know what you mean, But I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: And listen. A podcast, Budy Inswer is different. I you know,
Speaker 1: I've had, I've had. I had a talk show for
Speaker 1: a very short time at E and you're looking at
Speaker 1: people directly, and you can engauge what works and what
Speaker 1: doesn't work. The only way you can gauge a top
Speaker 1: podcast is the downloads and are they going up? But
Speaker 1: are they going down? And now with social media, I've
Speaker 1: got listeners who reach out to me and tell me
Speaker 1: they really like it, and I think this pedophilia problem
Speaker 1: has really touched a nerve with a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing. Look, people are discussed that that if
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff that we say is happening
Speaker 1: in Hollywood to Corey Feldyn, Corey Hayn stories, if that's
Speaker 1: really true and some of the bigger stars are maybe
Speaker 1: closeted and doing it like a campus spacey, then there's
Speaker 1: just endless amounts of material. And I think more people
Speaker 1: want to hear about it than don't. And no, I'm
Speaker 1: not afraid to go after them. I'm not afraid at all.
Speaker 1: I've got more and I'll tell you what's been harder
Speaker 1: for me to tackle is the me too times up stories.
Speaker 1: Because I was a guy that ran around before I
Speaker 1: was married on both coasts, and I had a ball
Speaker 1: when I was single, and the things I did and
Speaker 1: said would be absolute certain certain career enders for me
Speaker 1: right now, But there was no cameras back then and
Speaker 1: nobody listened in nowadays. Some of the guys I'm covering,
Speaker 1: like Russell Simmons or Jeremy Piven, Brett Ratner, Harvey, I
Speaker 1: know all these people. I ran around with them, and
Speaker 1: I know some of them to be fine, gentlemen. But
Speaker 1: yet people women can come out of the woodwork and
Speaker 1: say things happen to them. And I'm concerned about the
Speaker 1: net that we're casting to gather these men up. A
Speaker 1: lot of innocent people are being pulled in the net.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take time before we get it right. But
Speaker 1: you know, I trust that most women are honest, but
Speaker 1: I know not all women are honest. And you know,
Speaker 1: that's a hot topic to discuss. I argue with it
Speaker 1: with my wife, I mean, and she's like, please be
Speaker 1: careful because you have these you make these statements, and look,
Speaker 1: I think that most of them really don't know what
Speaker 1: women go through and we're just now starting to learn.
Speaker 1: And it's scary. It's scary. So yeah, those are tough subjects.
Speaker 1: But I like I like that edge, I like running
Speaker 1: on that line.
Speaker 4: I know what you're saying. We're the same age.
Speaker 3: I'm sixty, I'm fifty born in sixty two as well,
Speaker 3: fifty five years old. Okay, I'm from the Bronx and
Speaker 3: Staten Island, you know.
Speaker 4: So it was a different world back in those days.
Speaker 4: It was a different world.
Speaker 3: But even now, when I look back at my younger days,
Speaker 3: in my twenties and thirties and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I said, you know what, I did some stuff.
Speaker 1: That was wrong, you know, yo, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know we did. Listen. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't look I did things I've said on my podcast
Speaker 1: and if you start to listen from last September to
Speaker 1: the current listen to the current day. I'm really honest
Speaker 1: about the stuff I did. I've done with women and said,
Speaker 1: and there's no question I want. I spoke to Harvey
Speaker 1: when he was in his rehab clinic in Arizona the
Speaker 1: first few weeks, and he said, he told me everything
Speaker 1: that they're saying I did is a lie. Everything was
Speaker 1: every every relationship was consentraal et central And I argued
Speaker 1: with him on that, but he said to me, Aj,
Speaker 1: if you were who you were back in New York
Speaker 1: in the nineties late nineties, they would come after you
Speaker 1: just as hard as they came after me. And I said,
Speaker 1: hold it all, I've never had a woman tell me
Speaker 1: I raped her. He said no, but I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that I didn't rape them either. So I don't believe
Speaker 1: Harvey's one hundred percent innocent. I think most of those
Speaker 1: girls are telling the truth. However, I know that they're
Speaker 1: for every girl that says that he raped her or
Speaker 1: did things that were not consential. I'll bet you there
Speaker 1: are five that went into those hotel rooms and knew
Speaker 1: what was coming and sat in the whirlpool and put
Speaker 1: the shower on for him because they wanted that part.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me they didn't. I know this business very well.
Speaker 1: May This has been happening since Darryl Zannak and Shirley
Speaker 1: Temple and Louis being mayor, and Howard Hughes, I mean,
Speaker 1: Howard Hughes had women every couple of hours come to
Speaker 1: his office. It's been this way and it's not right,
Speaker 1: but it's been this way forever, and it's not going
Speaker 1: to change overnight.
Speaker 4: It's not so Describe to the audience, what is your
Speaker 4: history with the Weinstein Well.
Speaker 1: Harvey and I. Because I was a gossip columnist in
Speaker 1: New York, it was very It was very common for
Speaker 1: me to get some big, big heavyweight guys on the phone,
Speaker 1: including Donald Trump, Harvey Warrington. These are guys that were
Speaker 1: obviously very influential in their fields. They knew a lot
Speaker 1: of information I needed, and there are reasons for me
Speaker 1: to help them because one hand washes the other. In
Speaker 1: the gossip industry, you hide an it him that's detrimental
Speaker 1: to Harvey's movie opening. He gives you a tip on
Speaker 1: something else you can run next week. Donald Trump wants
Speaker 1: to buy a building, but he's not allowed to do this.
Speaker 1: That it's quid pro call. The whole day long, so
Speaker 1: I was always in the phone with these guys. Harvey
Speaker 1: eventually gave me my first book deal, which was the
Speaker 1: book Same Ain't and a Bitch. I was at the Oscars.
Speaker 1: I was covering the Oscar and I found out when
Speaker 1: I got back to New York Pete Hamill was gonna
Speaker 1: let me resign because she didn't like gossip reporting. And
Speaker 1: I told Harvey that and he said, well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to give you a book deal. You write a book
Speaker 1: for me, we'll keep you on your feet. He told
Speaker 1: me how much money you give me on the spot.
Speaker 1: So that's the kind of guy he was to me,
Speaker 1: and he kept me alive for a while, and I've
Speaker 1: been He's done that for me in a few different ways.
Speaker 1: I wrote for his magazines. He's been good, so I
Speaker 1: stayed in touch over the years. He've always been tight
Speaker 1: and about fifteen years ago. I bought a soap screening
Speaker 1: painting for him because he was going through hell with
Speaker 1: the Disney merger and the press was beating him up.
Speaker 1: And I hated that I wasn't part of the press
Speaker 1: because I was to protected. So I went to go
Speaker 1: buy the painting and the girl behind the counter goes,
Speaker 1: who's this for? I said, well, by the way, it
Speaker 1: was a painting. It was the word Harvey Wood instead
Speaker 1: of Hollywood. And she said, who's this for? I said,
Speaker 1: this with my friend, Harvey Warrington. She says, oh, he's
Speaker 1: dating a friend of mine and who lives in England.
Speaker 1: Now I knew Harvey was married with children in New York,
Speaker 1: so I quickly called him and I said, hey, tell
Speaker 1: me why some nobody in an art gallery knows that
Speaker 1: you're dating a woman in England. He said, it's maloney.
Speaker 1: Don't believe a word of it. Then he calls back
Speaker 1: two minutes later, he goes, Okay, it's true. What do
Speaker 1: we do? So we met. He said I can't have
Speaker 1: this information get out. I love this woman my life
Speaker 1: when I am going to split, but I need this.
Speaker 1: I can't have this out. I said, okay, I'm going
Speaker 1: to give your company, Mirromax, all the best gossip that's
Speaker 1: out there. I'm going to supply your publicists with every
Speaker 1: great story that I can get my hands on, and
Speaker 1: whenever somebody calls your people to find out about this
Speaker 1: is fair. If then it becomes public, the way to
Speaker 1: beat that is you feed them other big stories and
Speaker 1: they'll let the affair story go. Now. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I said, his people with a lot of great stories,
Speaker 1: and Harvey paid me by the month. Everybody was happy
Speaker 1: and the affair story never sold the light of day.
Speaker 1: But I don't know how many people went after the
Speaker 1: affair story. I just know I gave them good stuff
Speaker 1: to battle it. So people kind of tied me up
Speaker 1: with the New York Times story coming out. Before that
Speaker 1: came out a year and a half ago, Harvey called
Speaker 1: me and said, get to the finding until I got
Speaker 1: to talk to you. I ran down. We drove down
Speaker 1: to the pends, but he said, look, there's a big
Speaker 1: hit piece coming out on me for the New York
Speaker 1: Times New York Magazine, and I need your help. I
Speaker 1: got to find that I was doing this. I got
Speaker 1: to stop this now. He didn't say that piece alleged
Speaker 1: he was a rapist. It just was a typical hit
Speaker 1: piece on Harvey's a bully. Harvey gets angry. I've seen
Speaker 1: those before, so I said, okay, well what shall we have?
Speaker 1: Can I go about it? And we were coming up
Speaker 1: with ideas. He said, look, i'll pull you in a
Speaker 1: week and I'll tell you what I needed from it.
Speaker 1: I said great. He never called, and he was offering
Speaker 1: me a lot of money, so I was interested in
Speaker 1: doing this. I said, well, what do you want me
Speaker 1: to next month? He goes, no, I'll let you know.
Speaker 1: Thank god, he never well I shouldn't say that. If
Speaker 1: he told me this was about me allegedly raping women,
Speaker 1: I never would have helped him. I just thought it
Speaker 1: would another Harvey's a Bully story, So I never did anything.
Speaker 1: He never called back. He said, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: And then he starts to hire some companies that you
Speaker 1: just don't see people higher, these companies like black Box
Speaker 1: and Massage. I mean, you know, he went, he went
Speaker 1: full warfare. He still couldn't stop the story that that
Speaker 1: Ronan pharaoh was was writing. But as you know now,
Speaker 1: the New York Times stopped it for a while. The
Speaker 1: the the n y p D silenced victim for a while.
Speaker 1: NBC News didn't run it for a while. So Harvey
Speaker 1: had a lot of power, and I wasn't the only
Speaker 1: journalist who would who would who had helped him in
Speaker 1: the past, as is obvious now. But eventually it became
Speaker 1: too big a story. And I just talked to Rodan
Speaker 1: Pharaoh two weeks ago at lunch about it, and it's
Speaker 1: congratulated in him because that's it. He's getting that, he's
Speaker 1: hatting big stories. Now, this kid, Ronan's quite a star
Speaker 1: in the journalism world. We both were groomed by the
Speaker 1: same guy, Richie Esposito was my boss at the New
Speaker 1: York Dly News and he groomed Ronan the MSNBC. So
Speaker 1: it's interesting. It's there's there's there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of that. There's gonna be a lot more stories. And
Speaker 1: now that people who go after people like in positions
Speaker 1: of power, like Harvey and others, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot more of these stories coming. But that that was
Speaker 1: my relationship with Harvey. I haven't talked to him in
Speaker 1: several weeks. As bad as the stories are, I do
Speaker 1: feel bad for him because I know how powerful he was,
Speaker 1: and how how many great things he got done. But naturally,
Speaker 1: if I put my daughter in the place of so
Speaker 1: many women who tell their stories, it's nauseating. But I
Speaker 1: didn't know that stuff was going on.
Speaker 4: Never How was he doing today? Is he still in rehab?
Speaker 1: I imagine so. But the last time I spoke to him,
Speaker 1: probably a month and a half ago, he was I
Speaker 1: don't know where he is now. I don't know how
Speaker 1: well those things take. I personally don't believe those things
Speaker 1: are are changeable. I think a sex addiction is very
Speaker 1: difficult to overcome it. It's more of a power addiction
Speaker 1: than sex. If he asked me, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can change that. I think that's why I pe
Speaker 1: just so intriguing, because what Harvey was doing and the
Speaker 1: way certain men are acting. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can change out overnight. It takes a long time to
Speaker 1: become more aware of what you're saying, how you're acting,
Speaker 1: what you're doing, and it affects so many men now.
Speaker 1: Pedophilia is something that I don't care what you do,
Speaker 1: that's never going to get to get out of that
Speaker 1: person's head. That person has to be separated from society
Speaker 1: and he's got to be watched because you can't you
Speaker 1: can't shock that out of the system or incarcerate them
Speaker 1: until they're clear. I don't believe that. That's a whole
Speaker 1: different problem.
Speaker 3: Well, then let me ask you this about the mechanisms
Speaker 3: of reporting gossip, because when Kevin Spacey came out, right,
Speaker 3: it was a huge story, twenty four hours story, right,
Speaker 3: and he's just done this, he's done that. I actually
Speaker 3: had his brother on the show a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: Oh well, wow, Now, but when Kevin Spacey comes, how
Speaker 3: come they don't talk about him being on Jeffrey Epstein's
Speaker 3: plane with Chris Tucker and what and Bill Clinton?
Speaker 1: I know, I know, well I do. I get interviewed,
Speaker 1: I get interview the uh the island and Jeffrey's playing
Speaker 1: the Lite Express. I get into all that he's no angel.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein is a bad dude. He's a bad dude.
Speaker 1: But but when billionaires hang out with billionaires, and there's
Speaker 1: a reason why Clinton and Epstein and Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: there's so many big time people, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: there's one hundred pictures of Oprah Winfrey kissing and hunting
Speaker 1: coffee one right, they're all in the same pluck. That's
Speaker 1: not to say they all agree and know what the
Speaker 1: other person is really doing. But trust me, when you're
Speaker 1: at that top level, you do know a lot of
Speaker 1: what people like us down here don't know. And if
Speaker 1: you're a journalist like myself, well all of us know
Speaker 1: that Kevin Spacey was chasing man and chasing boys around
Speaker 1: Hollywood and all over the world. We all knew that,
Speaker 1: But we're not in the business of outing people. So
Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of blind items out Chavidge Spacey,
Speaker 1: but not nothing. That was a nail on a hammer
Speaker 1: on the nail. Now that's changing now you can now.
Speaker 1: But now like I just released the story on Twitter
Speaker 1: that on me on my podcast today that I know
Speaker 1: the next excuser that's coming out that's gonna go up
Speaker 1: against James Franco and it's an actress name is Zoey
Speaker 1: Deutsch who did the movie Why Him and James was
Speaker 1: very inappropriate and he was her producer on top of
Speaker 1: her coastar. That makes him her boss. He can't do that.
Speaker 1: That dynamic is no longer acceptable. She would cry with
Speaker 1: Dan has said he would say inappropriate things in their ear.
Speaker 1: He'd put his hands on the wrong places that weren't
Speaker 1: called for. This happened every day. Brian Cranston, a co star,
Speaker 1: saw this and said to her, when you want to
Speaker 1: come forward, I'll support you. So at least that happened
Speaker 1: five three, two years ago. I don't think a man
Speaker 1: would have said to the girl, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: Are you okay? You know? If you need me, I'm here.
Speaker 1: But you know, I know that the men I grew
Speaker 1: up with would have taken James Franco's hands and broke
Speaker 1: him at the roo. There are different people in this
Speaker 1: town and his business than there are around the country
Speaker 1: and around the world. Hollywood is a different group of people.
Speaker 1: They do let things go. It's all kind of winklink, nudge, nudge.
Speaker 1: You know, she's screwing him, he's screwing her, and this
Speaker 1: one's paying this much money. How is this girl that
Speaker 1: hasn't worked for the last twenty five years still wearing
Speaker 1: the best clothes, still driving a Ferrari? Who's she's screwing? Like?
Speaker 1: What's going on? And it's all a big joke that
Speaker 1: the public doesn't know about. There's women out here we
Speaker 1: call yachtas. What's you're women? That find themselves on yacht's
Speaker 1: a very very rich rich man and they get paid,
Speaker 1: you know, one hundred grand for a few nights of fun.
Speaker 1: There's women I know going back twenty years that are
Speaker 1: now on the Real Housewives Show. They used to get
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars water to their account from some
Speaker 1: prince in Saudi Arabia because he wanted her and her
Speaker 1: friends to have fun with him for a weekend. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't just fun, it was sexual fun. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of clothes lit, shut your eyes, blinders on
Speaker 1: the public does not know what goes on. I know,
Speaker 1: and I'm happy to just just get this stuff off
Speaker 1: my chest because if we're gonna play this way now,
Speaker 1: then it's the wild wild West.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I love this. You can come on anytime
Speaker 4: you want, anytime. Cat you man, I gotta get you
Speaker 4: that get you back.
Speaker 3: But listen, we got a commercial break. I forgot to
Speaker 3: tell you off the air. Get we have a commercial
Speaker 3: break every twenty minutes. It's three minutes long and it's
Speaker 3: just dead silence. You can't we can't talk off the air.
Speaker 3: But we got a commercial break coming up where with
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Speaker 4: Ain't it a bitch from Howard Stern?
Speaker 1: Fame?
Speaker 4: New York Daily News fame? Uh E, Hollywood story scandals,
Speaker 4: h A J. I was gonna ask you before. You
Speaker 4: were always this kind of guy, a guy about town
Speaker 4: that knew all the inside stuff, even before you had
Speaker 4: the column.
Speaker 1: You know, I got the column. I was a sports writer.
Speaker 1: I started on a newsday covering high school college sports,
Speaker 1: and I was married my first five I've had a
Speaker 1: house on Long Island. I loved going out to college games.
Speaker 1: I got some pro some professional stories of the Mets
Speaker 1: and the Yankees, and that was where I wanted to
Speaker 1: go with my life certainly. And then got divorce, and
Speaker 1: suddenly I went out a few nights in the city,
Speaker 1: New York City, and I started to see some things
Speaker 1: that were like whoa, you know, really great. It was
Speaker 1: the early nineties and a lot of things were happening
Speaker 1: in New York and I was drawn in and I
Speaker 1: was single, and I met Mickey Rourke and we went
Speaker 1: to a party one night, I saw some crazy stuff
Speaker 1: that I thought it'd be great in print, and I
Speaker 1: called Linda Stacey, who now likes for the Post, but
Speaker 1: she was a New York Newsday gossip columnist, gave us
Speaker 1: some tips. She said, Hey, how about you go out
Speaker 1: for me every couple of nights. I'll give you fifty
Speaker 1: bucks and you give me some tips. I said, great.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, the Daily News wants to hire Linda,
Speaker 1: and Linda said, I'm going to take the job, but
Speaker 1: I want to bring this kid, aj Benzon with me
Speaker 1: because he has the greatest legs that he runs all
Speaker 1: night but not to sleep, and he gets great stuff.
Speaker 1: So I went with her, and suddenly More Zuckerman's my boss,
Speaker 1: and I'm at the Daily News, and I got a
Speaker 1: nice salary, and my job was to go out every
Speaker 1: night and find stuff. So my life really began at
Speaker 1: thirty one. That's when I started my gossip column. And
Speaker 1: then Linda, two years in, left Gossip and I inherited
Speaker 1: the page, and then they gave my own page. So
Speaker 1: I always was somebody that was curious. Even before I
Speaker 1: did Gossip. I found myself going to John Gotti's trial,
Speaker 1: and I made I was introduced to John Gotti. I
Speaker 1: got friendly with him. I sat with him at lunch.
Speaker 1: I started to really get to know people. And I've
Speaker 1: always had that curiosity could get to know people, to
Speaker 1: go dark places. I was friends with Tupac Shakor. The
Speaker 1: list goes on. I like to go where people are
Speaker 1: afraid to go, and I think that's where my curiosity
Speaker 1: factor began. My dad was an undercovered cop in the
Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, undercovered that cops top mom's father. The
Speaker 1: family was mafia. That's a very contradictory way to be
Speaker 1: brought up cops and robbers. But I heard great stories,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where I got my storytelling talents
Speaker 1: from my dad. So it was always always been in
Speaker 1: my blood. So you combine writing with being nosy and
Speaker 1: being curious, and you're either going to be detective or
Speaker 1: a journalist. That's why I look at it. So I
Speaker 1: went the writer's way because I love to write, but
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have been a cop. I
Speaker 1: love to try to find the right stuff and then
Speaker 1: to stop banking from happening. And the only person that
Speaker 1: can do that other than a cop, to me is
Speaker 1: a journalist.
Speaker 4: A good journalist, and what is your next book going
Speaker 4: to be about?
Speaker 1: Well? Next looked really well. The second book, seventy four
Speaker 1: and senty is a very bit's a memoir, but it
Speaker 1: goes back to a summer of nineteen seventy four where
Speaker 1: my father's brother, a couple of tough Sicilian guys. My
Speaker 1: father's brother feared that his second son was going to
Speaker 1: be gay like his first son, and he said, can
Speaker 1: I please send my son to your Houseroland for the summer?
Speaker 1: Take him in. You know, we were essentially going to
Speaker 1: butcher him up. I was twelve, he was ten. We
Speaker 1: were going to show them what it was like to
Speaker 1: be a man. That's the way the thinking was back then.
Speaker 1: And of course we couldn't do that, and we got
Speaker 1: very sensitive to this kid's needs and he actually changed us,
Speaker 1: and he's thrown on to become a very happy, married
Speaker 1: gay man in his fifties in New York City now.
Speaker 1: But so that's the second book. But the third book
Speaker 1: is really my stories. I've got a bunch of them,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna work in concert with the podcast because
Speaker 1: a lot of the stories I tell on the podcast,
Speaker 1: whether I'm talking about John Gotti or Sylvester Stallone or
Speaker 1: George Clooney. I've had run ins with a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and I have a lot of great stories and anecdotes
Speaker 1: about those days and nights with these people. Some of
Speaker 1: my third book, which I'm finishing writing now, will be
Speaker 1: about my personal stories. Frank Sinatra, I rubbed shoulders with
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of interesting, interesting people, really really
Speaker 1: famous people, not famous with me. Famous man.
Speaker 3: Now, now you know you can't deny this because you
Speaker 3: were friends with Donald Trump and now he's the President
Speaker 3: of the United States.
Speaker 4: So how far back does that go? Tell us about
Speaker 4: that story.
Speaker 1: Not only was that friend to them, but at one point,
Speaker 1: Howard Turnshaw I threatened to kill him. So you know
Speaker 1: it's a very weird, right. The relationship began lind the
Speaker 1: early nineties when I got my column and Linda Stacy
Speaker 1: was always talking to Donald Trump on the phone. And
Speaker 1: because again Donald loved to give tips, and if you
Speaker 1: helped him out, he helped you out. He loved his
Speaker 1: name in print, he loved ratings, He loves everything you
Speaker 1: see him doing now. He did this to us years ago.
Speaker 1: So Donald was a column staple, and when Linda left
Speaker 1: the business, he continued to talk with me, and I
Speaker 1: would meet him out. He did Lamar a Lago with him.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun with Donald Trump. Now
Speaker 1: they came a time and I despised him because him
Speaker 1: and I battled over a girlfriend that I was in
Speaker 1: love with when I moved to LA. He eventually dated her.
Speaker 1: I came back to New York and took her back
Speaker 1: from him, and then I went back to LA and
Speaker 1: she went back to him. It got really surreal, especially
Speaker 1: when he decided to run for president, and that's when
Speaker 1: I had written him a letter apologized. Way before he
Speaker 1: wanted to run, I've written him a letter apologizing. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I look at your kids. You raise good kids.
Speaker 1: You know now that i'm a father, I just become
Speaker 1: a young dad. I said, I understand what a Fikeu'd
Speaker 1: be a well rounded man. You're successful, You've done this
Speaker 1: and that. He accepted my apology, and then right when
Speaker 1: the girlfriend thing happened, we got past that. And then
Speaker 1: when he was running, I was going to do an
Speaker 1: access Hollywood and asked us. Hollywood said, we'll promote your book,
Speaker 1: and you've got to tell us about you, Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and your girlfriend Carla Young. I said, oh God, I
Speaker 1: hate doing this. So because she's married now with kids
Speaker 1: and we've all moved on to different mates and have
Speaker 1: new children. I called Donald Trump just right before he
Speaker 1: ran before the primaries. I said, they want me on
Speaker 1: ansinse Hollywood, but they want me to talk about me
Speaker 1: you and call. He said, a Jay, you do what
Speaker 1: you got to do. Go sell your book. You're a winner.
Speaker 1: You know how he talks. I said, oh, okay, Well, look,
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know. I said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell the truth. I admire you, there are things
Speaker 1: I don't like about you. I'm gonna be honest, be honest.
Speaker 1: So I went on the air. I told the story,
Speaker 1: and I said to Donald, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Are you serious about running to president? I mean, what
Speaker 1: do you really? I said, because how many great summers
Speaker 1: do you think you have left in your life? Why
Speaker 1: would you want to spend four or eight in the
Speaker 1: White House. You could be anywhere in the world. You've
Speaker 1: got how many great summers do you have? Back? And
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to tell me fifteen twelve.
Speaker 1: He said, I've got at least thirty great summers left.
Speaker 1: So the guy thinks he's going to go on forever,
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm gonna give it. I'm going I
Speaker 1: want to be I want to help America because America
Speaker 1: helped me become who I am. I believe this turntry's escaping,
Speaker 1: the escaping the good people who live in it, and
Speaker 1: we're losing grip on things. And I happen to believe
Speaker 1: many things he feels. I don't agree with the way
Speaker 1: he goes about a lot of things. I don't do
Speaker 1: a lot of things he stands for. But there are
Speaker 1: about four or five points that I'm really in agreement
Speaker 1: with him on. But again, I don't like the methods
Speaker 1: he attacks him on. But I do love brutal honesty.
Speaker 1: I like the kind of guy that walks into a
Speaker 1: room and kicks over the table and changes things. I
Speaker 1: like this stuff because I think Washington needed to be
Speaker 1: shook it up, and he is doing that. And if
Speaker 1: it rattles people, I don't care, because I want my
Speaker 1: country more than the next president who's going to be
Speaker 1: the status quo. I'll pay what people don't get they
Speaker 1: ought to the stand. Donald Trump is a guy. Yes,
Speaker 1: he grew up in privilege, but he also made a
Speaker 1: fortune dealing with guys who are iron workers, truck drivers,
Speaker 1: construction men, cement guys, lafia, teamsters, union leaders. He didn't
Speaker 1: grew up around people could know how to speak perfectly
Speaker 1: and say things to the PC crowd. So the things
Speaker 1: he says to me, the things he says on TV,
Speaker 1: they don't bother me at all. Having affairs don't bother
Speaker 1: me at all. I don't care. Bill Clinton did it
Speaker 1: while he president, and I still voted for the guy.
Speaker 1: We're finding out that a lot of men are men,
Speaker 1: and a lot of men that we think are going
Speaker 1: to be our leaders aren't speaking to the correct way.
Speaker 1: But I don't care about that. I think that once
Speaker 1: Donald Trump finishes what he's got to do, and I'm
Speaker 1: not quite sure he's going to be able to finish
Speaker 1: with all these women coming back around and tossing these
Speaker 1: allegations out him, I think he's going to be the
Speaker 1: last big firecracker on the fourth of July with these allegations.
Speaker 1: But if he can dodge that, I think he'll do
Speaker 1: a lot of good. You know, I still send them letters.
Speaker 1: I correspond. You know, they're not long because he's very busy.
Speaker 1: But again, I like a guy who doesn't forget where
Speaker 1: he came from and remembers the people he knew back,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five thirty years ago. I like people
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: Well, I gotta say this. People got to go to
Speaker 3: fame as a bitch and look up the stories and
Speaker 3: they're by title. And if he talks about Trump and
Speaker 3: A J. Benz, that does the best Donald Trump impersonation.
Speaker 4: Out of forget Ali. Well, it's exact, it is exact, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I don't think I'll
Speaker 1: tell you something. You know, i'll tell you something, you know.
Speaker 1: I just I know his manner is manner is better.
Speaker 1: But you know, you're a winner. He loves everybody's a winner.
Speaker 1: And you know absolutely you're a winner. It's just you
Speaker 1: got to see my face when I do the hand
Speaker 1: motions are better. But I've always made fun of him.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is that's why I'm when I despised.
Speaker 1: There was a point where I hated him so much
Speaker 1: that I couldn't even see the word the word trumpet
Speaker 1: or anything that had those letters in the word. I
Speaker 1: see it in my blood pressure would spike. And now
Speaker 1: I get such a kick out of he's our president
Speaker 1: and and the people who are exhausted and exactly and
Speaker 1: crazy about what he says. Now, I'm like, I went
Speaker 1: through this years ago and he's not changed one bit.
Speaker 1: I get a kick out of it. I know it's
Speaker 1: not not right to say we have an entertaining president,
Speaker 1: but by god, we'll never see this kind of man
Speaker 1: run a country again. This is this is, this is
Speaker 1: a show every day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would miss it. I would miss it if
Speaker 4: he was gone. But no, wait a second. I heard
Speaker 4: that Howard sterned fight and when you said you were
Speaker 4: going to kill him, you had a plan. You had
Speaker 4: a plan in your mind, right Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a Brooklyn guy. I had when my friends
Speaker 1: saw how upset I was over the whole breakup with
Speaker 1: my girlfriend thing, and they saw what that did to me.
Speaker 1: I love this girl, I mean she was. And then
Speaker 1: the caveat of the story is she's still my best friend.
Speaker 1: We talk all the time. She's married to a very
Speaker 1: wealthy man. We've stayed with them in their house up state.
Speaker 1: Are my son and her son have you know, taken
Speaker 1: dance together as kids? You know, we're very tight. She's
Speaker 1: godmother to my son. So obviously we've all gone on
Speaker 1: and everything's fine. But when I said that, I've had
Speaker 1: friends who wanted the baseball bat you would knight, and
Speaker 1: I've said, don't do it. I meant that. Now I'm
Speaker 1: not saying these guys are of the right mind, but
Speaker 1: you have those friends in life. We don't want to
Speaker 1: see their friend upset and they die. Have friends that said, well,
Speaker 1: whatever you need, what you need, poke, let me know. Now,
Speaker 1: they're not going to kill him. I think they had
Speaker 1: more life. Maybe Tanya harding him or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe a back to the knee was something
Speaker 1: that we were we were talking about, but thank god
Speaker 1: that didn't happen, because that would have been ridiculous, all
Speaker 1: because of a girl. And here we are, all these
Speaker 1: years later, we're all friends, we all got married to
Speaker 1: different women, and but my god, what you know, it's
Speaker 1: funny when you think when you just when you think
Speaker 1: you're doing okay in life and you're pretty successful, you
Speaker 1: look at that, you look at what Donald Trump's done,
Speaker 1: it's pretty remarkable because if he's if I accept the
Speaker 1: fact that my reporting on him, not just me, but
Speaker 1: a lot of journalists in the eighties and nineties got
Speaker 1: him to be a super big reality start, and if
Speaker 1: if he didn't have that reality show, he would not
Speaker 1: have become president. So in my small, in some small way,
Speaker 1: I'm complicit in his running the entry. There's no listen
Speaker 1: da other, and I have to sit down in my
Speaker 1: bed with my son and my daughter, and my daughter's
Speaker 1: playing guitar or talking about her new play. I got
Speaker 1: MSNBC on, and Laurence O'donald starts talking to a public
Speaker 1: authors who were mentioning me my name, Trump, Mueller, and
Speaker 1: my daughter's looking at me with her like she still
Speaker 1: can't sell me. I said, honey, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to tell you. I don't know how I end up
Speaker 1: on MSNBC in the same sentence as Trump and Mueller.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me. But if they
Speaker 1: if they think my name in the same sentence of
Speaker 1: those two men mean think gaining on a good story,
Speaker 1: they're mistaken because I got nothing. There are people who
Speaker 1: think I have tapes on Trump, that I've got secret
Speaker 1: tapes about him. This is so ridiculous. People on Twitter
Speaker 1: say that I've got I've got a tape of him
Speaker 1: being rough with Lannie in the elevator. I don't have
Speaker 1: those things. But it's funny. Some reporters think that's the story,
Speaker 1: and A. J. Benson knows it. It's ed. It's very surreal,
Speaker 1: but you know it was something I thought I had.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this real quick. At the end
Speaker 1: of the Howard's third episode, I just jumped on and
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, why are you listening to this guy?
Speaker 1: This guy goes to Russia and banks processing. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why I said that, Because in nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 1: I was talking to Trump like I did every morning,
Speaker 1: every other morning, and one day I was talking about
Speaker 1: I got to get to Cuba one day because I
Speaker 1: love Cuban women, and Trump happened to say to me,
Speaker 1: forget that, go to Russia. You got to go to Russia.
Speaker 1: The girls have no morals there. So now he didn't
Speaker 1: say I go there and bank processes. But I remember
Speaker 1: that sentence. I never forgot it, so I settled on stern.
Speaker 1: That was two thousand and one. Last year, a Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal reporter called me. A New York Times reporterluk,
Speaker 1: they want to get to the meat of that sentence.
Speaker 1: What did you mean? Do you have any do you
Speaker 1: have a tape of that? Did he did he go
Speaker 1: to Russia. Then it became a headline all over the internet.
Speaker 1: AJ but Stas and Columbus knows that Trump bangs trust.
Speaker 1: It got so crazy, I said, guys, we were too
Speaker 1: so guys talking on the phone about girls we liked.
Speaker 1: I like humans, He liked Russians. Obviously he married one
Speaker 1: and I married a Portuguese woman, so we were onto
Speaker 1: something there. But they to think that I knew the
Speaker 1: whole Russia thing. That's where it went. That's how crazy
Speaker 1: some journalists are for this story. They were on it
Speaker 1: two years ago. I got calls about Stormy Daniels and
Speaker 1: about Karen McDougall. You know, I knew those stories. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if I didn't know Stormy, I knew Taran.
Speaker 1: I knew that story, but I wasn't gonna write it
Speaker 1: because I don't know. I didn't think it's a good
Speaker 1: idea to write about your your president's ex affair. And frankly,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of men in power do those things.
Speaker 1: And I know Kara McDougall could be a very opportunistic
Speaker 1: woman who happens to always be in the armor of
Speaker 1: a millionaire or a billionaire. So I don't like women
Speaker 1: who do the who live a lifestyle. Then when I
Speaker 1: come back and sue the man that was good to
Speaker 1: them during their affair, I hate that part of the
Speaker 1: whole equation. I hate it, and I you know, I
Speaker 1: think most women in America don't care that he had
Speaker 1: an affair. I don't think Milania cares. I think Malaney
Speaker 1: and him have a relationship like Bill Hillary did. This
Speaker 1: is a powerful partnership. Don't make it too embarrassing and
Speaker 1: continue on with your life. I think that's what they've had.
Speaker 4: But what about if Trump is actually threatening these women
Speaker 4: to keep soying.
Speaker 1: Look, you know, if you're that powerful a man, there
Speaker 1: are many men who want I don't think he's threatening.
Speaker 1: I think that the practice of catch and kill has
Speaker 1: always been in play for people not nearly as big
Speaker 1: as the president. There are people who are a pizza place,
Speaker 1: who you know, that are powerful, that can silence a girl,
Speaker 1: not with violence or threats with money. If you're rich
Speaker 1: and powerful, you have NDAs. There are parties I go
Speaker 1: to in Hollywood where you've got to sign an NBA
Speaker 1: before you go into the party because they don't want
Speaker 1: you to tell people what happened at the party. It's
Speaker 1: everywhere in this town, and it's everywhere in the upper
Speaker 1: levels of very important people. They don't don't want their
Speaker 1: lives being broadcast. So for this girl to have an
Speaker 1: affair and sign an NDA, she signed them before she
Speaker 1: ran around with Bruce Willis. She dated Leonardo DiCaprio. I
Speaker 1: know these women, so that's not that's not something that
Speaker 1: I'm not uncommon. So then to go turn around and
Speaker 1: when it becomes president they want over their mouths. I
Speaker 1: think any man would say, now hold this second. You
Speaker 1: got your money, you got paid, What are we what
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Why? Why would you now want
Speaker 1: to go beat Canary? I don't like that. Look, I
Speaker 1: don't mind people having affairs. I think we're human. I
Speaker 1: think it's very Adam and Eve of us all. But
Speaker 1: then to want to turn around and go talk about
Speaker 1: the man that was good to you while you having fun,
Speaker 1: I don't understand that part of the equation. And I
Speaker 1: understand how it could take take down a president if
Speaker 1: you're using campaign funds to do that. But again, I
Speaker 1: think Trump was very slick and how he went about
Speaker 1: not signing the NBA. You know the money came from
Speaker 1: from his Lawyer's account. It's very clever. Now I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's clever to the pointe we got to applaud them,
Speaker 1: but that's very cunning and then very clever to do
Speaker 1: those things. But like I've said months and months ago,
Speaker 1: I don't like this notion that I think what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen is the the me too movement would not have
Speaker 1: begun if we didn't have for Trump in the office.
Speaker 1: If Hillary won, you would not have seen me Too
Speaker 1: because there was nobody close to Harvey. Wanna see the
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Nobody gave, nobody raived more money for Hillary
Speaker 1: than Harvey. Oh yeah, but what with with Trump winning,
Speaker 1: me too suddenly had to become a thing, and it
Speaker 1: should become a thing. But what's gonna happen is I
Speaker 1: think once it swept through Hollywood and Washington and every
Speaker 1: other business of the world, it's going to make its
Speaker 1: way back to the presidency where it began with the
Speaker 1: high Access Hollywood tape, uh, with Billy Bush. That's where
Speaker 1: it started. It's going to go back there and the
Speaker 1: head of the state is going to eat the tail.
Speaker 1: And I'm fortunately the tale is going to be the
Speaker 1: first big story which was Donald Trump. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, Stormy begets Karen, Karen begets summer virgos, somemer virgos.
Speaker 1: There's more coming. Trump was busy for a long time
Speaker 1: with women Trump has dated. People hate to hear the story.
Speaker 1: The most beautiful woman in the world, the women he's
Speaker 1: been with that that had lost fairs for Donald Trump
Speaker 1: are It's a skyline of the most beautiful women Al mctearson.
Speaker 1: It goes on for Adam Nicole Smith. This guy was busy.
Speaker 4: And what about Mike Tyson's wife.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it because I
Speaker 1: know Trump. There's a false notion out there that he's
Speaker 1: a racist. And meanwhile, the woman that he loved, that
Speaker 1: I loved is half black and her family's black. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't be a racist and be good to her
Speaker 1: and her family like he was. And I don't doubt
Speaker 1: that Robin Gibbon's story, although I don't know that to
Speaker 1: be true or not, I don't doubt Robin gibbings like
Speaker 1: to have a lot of fun. You know, she dated
Speaker 1: Brad pigg on the side with Tyson. She was a
Speaker 1: you know, crazy people attract crazy people. Drama attracts drama.
Speaker 1: Adam Nicole Smith and Trump hung out before she got
Speaker 1: crazy and large and drug addicted. But you know he
Speaker 1: financed the movie of hers and really got it was
Speaker 1: kind of understood. You know, it's just sex is I'm
Speaker 1: not bothered by the sets being paid for favor. I'm
Speaker 1: just not bothered by that because women know they have it,
Speaker 1: women know they can use that as a power and
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Speaker 3: your host, private investgater, Ed Opperman. We're here with aj
Speaker 3: Benza Fame as a Bitch, author of these excellent books
Speaker 3: here seventy four and Sonny and Not Fame as a Bitch.
Speaker 4: Now, Aj, you mentioned the Access Hollywood tape. Who do
Speaker 4: you think leaked that Access Hollywood tape?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if that became public, I forget.
Speaker 1: I obviously it was somebody. I think that became public
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. I don't know why. I think.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the person's name, but I think it
Speaker 1: was a situation where people had trouble with Billy Bush.
Speaker 1: The person who leaked at really was trying to hurt
Speaker 1: Billy Bush, if you can believe this or not. They
Speaker 1: knew they had a big piece on their hands with
Speaker 1: the President saying things he said, but initially they wanted
Speaker 1: Billy Bush to really be hit by the fallout because
Speaker 1: they didn't like the way he kind of storm on
Speaker 1: the scene with I forget was the other Today's show,
Speaker 1: whatever show, whatever morning show he was on. Somebody there
Speaker 1: didn't like his personality and they felt he needed to
Speaker 1: be knocked down a peg and humbled. So what they
Speaker 1: got out of that tape was not just that, but
Speaker 1: they got Donald Trump committing the ultimate ultimate sin as
Speaker 1: a as a man running for president. So it was
Speaker 1: a double explosion. But I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: the person's name, and mean, look, there are other tapes
Speaker 1: out there that people allege that happened at the Apprentice.
Speaker 1: There are people who want, for one, Mark Burnett, who
Speaker 1: was a friend of the president. I don't think he'll
Speaker 1: never release those tapes that Donald Trump is alleged to
Speaker 1: have said the N word and other things that sound
Speaker 1: and look untoward and gross about a woman's body. You know,
Speaker 1: in the way he would describe a woman's figure and
Speaker 1: talk to men general, very sexual kind of undertones. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's always been a rumored those tapes are going to
Speaker 1: come out, and if they did, I don't think he
Speaker 1: can ever. I hate to say something can knock him down,
Speaker 1: but I think if a tape comes out and he's
Speaker 1: saying the N word, I have a hard time believing
Speaker 1: he can beat that. Uh, you know, I just don't.
Speaker 1: I think that'd be a big blow. But I do
Speaker 1: think they exist. I do think that's a word that
Speaker 1: might have fell out of his mouth on occasion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Because if we're all being honest, I've said the word.
Speaker 1: I think anybody who says they've never uttered it is
Speaker 1: full of maloney. You just sound like a hypocrite if
Speaker 1: you want to be really honest. It's a word that
Speaker 1: I grew up with. That was that was heard in
Speaker 1: my house. It was heard of the schoolyard. You know,
Speaker 1: let's let's it's it's a horrible, horrible word. But to
Speaker 1: say we never said it, that that's just a complete lie.
Speaker 1: Son be detrimental.
Speaker 3: In the eighties and the eighties nineties, back in New York,
Speaker 3: amongst that crowd, Giuliani, Trump, all those guys.
Speaker 4: That was something word that was kicked around.
Speaker 1: Now what I especially law enforcement, especially in law enforcement, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Now what.
Speaker 4: Do you make of uh, the money wandering accusations.
Speaker 1: Well, that's no good, that's uh, that's the kind of
Speaker 1: that's the kind of nail that they can hang their
Speaker 1: coat on and finish them off. I don't buy any
Speaker 1: I'm not the rush of collusion stuff. I'm just it's
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. You cannot chase somebody for a year and change.
Speaker 1: When do you start to begin to look and and
Speaker 1: and disset the man doing the chasing. When do you
Speaker 1: get to turn the microscope on Mueller and see his
Speaker 1: shortcomings with nine to eleven and the anthrax maloney, and
Speaker 1: and and and a host of other things that he
Speaker 1: dropped the ball on. If you keep searching for someone,
Speaker 1: you have to be in a relationship where the woman
Speaker 1: is waiting for you to say something wrong because you
Speaker 1: can break up with you. Eventually you're going to say
Speaker 1: something wrong. So to be into the microscope for this long,
Speaker 1: I think it's ridiculous. I think we've seen over and
Speaker 1: over again there was more collusion on Hillary side or
Speaker 1: an equal amount of people in politics, knowing what they
Speaker 1: know about China and Russia that have tried to mess
Speaker 1: up our election process. It's been going on for a while,
Speaker 1: even this new thing with Cambridge Analytica, with Trump and
Speaker 1: Facebook and this and that Obama did the same thing
Speaker 1: to get his young voters. So everybody's guilty of this stuff,
Speaker 1: But to make it only about Trump is wrong. However,
Speaker 1: the money laundering, you can't scape that. That's the kind
Speaker 1: of thing they're going to hang their coat on and
Speaker 1: lock it and finish them off with. If they get
Speaker 1: really deep into that and they got something solid, then
Speaker 1: he's finished. And god knows they've had They've been on
Speaker 1: these stories for a long time, and if there's one
Speaker 1: slip up, they're going to get him. But so far,
Speaker 1: the ones I've seen that they think they got him
Speaker 1: on are just meritless. I don't buy the stuff that
Speaker 1: CNN has been shouting in MSCs and shoutings Nbcason shouting.
Speaker 1: I think the coverage of him is so unfair. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's never a breaking news story about how great the
Speaker 1: economy is doing, about how the unemployment rates for the
Speaker 1: lowest for Black Americans. There's so many great things to say,
Speaker 1: but they never say him. They just can stay on Russia.
Speaker 1: They stay on Russia, they stay on stormy Russia. Come on,
Speaker 1: every one of those people on the air have such
Speaker 1: great tensions and retirement funds. Nobody's telling you that funds
Speaker 1: went on fort the cent in the last year. They're
Speaker 1: bursting at the seams, they're buying the new yachts. They
Speaker 1: won't tell you those stories. It's unfair. It's unfair.
Speaker 4: Real quick.
Speaker 3: Back when you were fighting with Trump on the air,
Speaker 3: you mentioned something about that he had this walk around
Speaker 3: guy with him. They used to walk around with him,
Speaker 3: a guy named Kalamari.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a head of his head of his security.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So later on he switched to NYPD guys, but back
Speaker 3: then he had guys that were kind of like a
Speaker 3: more street guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, pretty much he has. He has. He had
Speaker 1: his band of regulars that that that were around he's
Speaker 1: and he's rewarded those guys. I think, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: Kyla Mari is one of I think he's got a
Speaker 1: big position on a casino or something like that. He's
Speaker 1: doing something with a Trump property.
Speaker 4: I think bught my condo Staten Island. I left at
Speaker 4: two thousand. Really, I think.
Speaker 1: He was a big guy for the last thirty five
Speaker 1: years with Trump. Okay, he's a knock around guy. He
Speaker 1: was involved with a security Yeah, but uh, you know
Speaker 1: he's really really he's he's really faithful to Trump. He's
Speaker 1: put his hands on people for Trump. That's true. Trump
Speaker 1: was gonna sick on me, he told me, And uh
Speaker 1: I happened. And I knew things about Trump, about that Trump,
Speaker 1: about Matt Calamari back then, that that h Trump. Look,
Speaker 1: I knew Roger Stone twenty five years ago was a
Speaker 1: bad dude, a dangerous dude. You know. You can't get
Speaker 1: to the top in any of the fields like real
Speaker 1: estate or show business, especially politics, and not have bad
Speaker 1: guys around you, and not have those bad guys do favorously.
Speaker 1: That is very ordinary in the world of rising up
Speaker 1: the ladder. It's just I mean, the best cops are
Speaker 1: are familiar with the best criminals. We see it in
Speaker 1: politics all the time. We sit down with world leaders
Speaker 1: from other countries and praise them while they're starving their
Speaker 1: people committing Jenna sade on and it's just the oldest
Speaker 1: story in the book outside of Adam and Eve. So
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if if Calamari has done
Speaker 1: a lot of illegal things. I don't know that stuff,
Speaker 1: but I knew that back then he was a very
Speaker 1: It was a tough guy that that was always a
Speaker 1: Donalds side and every one of those Look, you have
Speaker 1: to have one of those guys. Every big guy has
Speaker 1: one of those guys. That's common.
Speaker 3: But but at one point Trump made a change and
Speaker 3: he went to Keith Schiller or these NYPD guys.
Speaker 4: Has a tounch of guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Trump loves he loves law enforcement, and a lot
Speaker 1: of law enforcement loves Trump. That's why, you know, That's
Speaker 1: why when he was running, I'd go home to Long
Speaker 1: Island and hang out with my family and the guys
Speaker 1: I grew up with that I really never talked politics
Speaker 1: with I'm out here twenty one years at all I
Speaker 1: hear is liberal, liberal, liberal liberal. I'm not a liberal,
Speaker 1: although I have some stances that are liberal, and I
Speaker 1: get it. But I go back home and I started
Speaker 1: to see how obvious it was that Trump was gonna win.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was completely obvious to me. We start
Speaker 1: talking to relatives that are seventy five guys that fought
Speaker 1: in Vietnam. I said something on the radio once on KBC.
Speaker 1: I was doing the election live at a restaurant in
Speaker 1: Birdbank that's very liberal, you know. George Clooney pretty much
Speaker 1: runs it the Smokehouse, and we're on radio live and
Speaker 1: then we're going to talk about the election results. And
Speaker 1: as I was doing at commercial Life said, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something, Kayler's going to be in the lead,
Speaker 1: and Trump's going to sneak up on her. So don't
Speaker 1: go to bed early and be all happy and you're
Speaker 1: gonna wake up sad tomorrow. Trump's going to win this,
Speaker 1: I said, because there are more Archie bunkers in the
Speaker 1: world than they're all life Michael Stivicks Meathead, his brother
Speaker 1: or his son in law. And that was obviously there
Speaker 1: is still those guys like ACTI Bunker. They're still in America.
Speaker 1: I know that the Meathead, the Michael Stibbitts of the
Speaker 1: world are not here in La everywhere. They're in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles everywhere. But across the world the country, you got
Speaker 1: more Archie bunkers. And that's why Trump want I felt.
Speaker 4: Let me ask Edith agent. We only got like a
Speaker 4: minute left, man, did you want to like give me
Speaker 4: another half hour or something like.
Speaker 1: That, or you just want to I can't today. I
Speaker 1: apologize were I can't, but I will another time.
Speaker 4: No talk, fine, then tell us where can people find you?
Speaker 4: What do you want to tell? How do you want
Speaker 4: to leave us?
Speaker 1: I'm pretty easy to find. I'm real. Aj Ben's on Twitter,
Speaker 1: I'm real aj Ben's on Instagram. You could, you could.
Speaker 1: The best way to hear what I have to say,
Speaker 1: obviously is to go go to iTunes subscribe to Fame
Speaker 1: as a Bitch. It's free and you'll believe me. I'd
Speaker 1: say it's worth your money. But you're not paying anything,
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Speaker 1: aj really, man.
Speaker 4: I could definitely recommend this. This podcast Fame is a bit.
Speaker 4: It's excellent.
Speaker 3: You listen to one, you're gonna listen to all of
Speaker 3: them because he tells his stories and he's not like me,
Speaker 3: like what a lot of the chatter. He tells his
Speaker 3: stories like like a SoundBite, and then he tells another
Speaker 3: story right after he plugs him all together.
Speaker 4: It's great stuff, man.
Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, I appreciate it. Anytime you want give me
Speaker 1: a call.
Speaker 4: Thank you, brother. Keep in touch. All right, thank aj Benza, boy.
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed that. I really enjoyed that. We disagree
Speaker 4: that a lot, but I really enjoyed that. And I'm
Speaker 4: glad he confirmed the colinbar he bought my con door.
Speaker 4: I knew that was him. I knew that was the guy. Anyway,
Speaker 4: It's what a small freaking world. Anyway.
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