Speaker 1: A couple weeks ago, I spoke about DMR and how
Speaker 1: I thought DMR was not used correctly, and I asked
Speaker 1: you in the video if you thought I should make
Speaker 1: a video about this topic, and many of you answered, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? What do you mean? This
Speaker 1: is part of the answer to that question. Why am
Speaker 1: I burned out on DMR and how is it not
Speaker 1: used correctly? Let's go. Today's video is sponsored by ham
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Speaker 1: I have been on DMR since about twenty twelve. Texas
Speaker 1: has had DMR systems in our state since twenty ten,
Speaker 1: and Brandmeister came online in twenty fifteen, five years after
Speaker 1: the fact. TGIF came online in a few years after that.
Speaker 1: I don't know TGIF had some There used to be
Speaker 1: a TGIF talk group on Brandmeister. The guys in charge
Speaker 1: of that talk group and Brandmeister gotten a tiff. They
Speaker 1: disagreed on some things. There's a PC way to say it.
Speaker 1: Y'all should congratulate me. I'm not a very politically correct person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so something happened there. I don't have all the details anyway,
Speaker 1: and then TGIF split off and now they have their
Speaker 1: own network, but it's been a long time coming. They've
Speaker 1: been working on that for quite some time. And now
Speaker 1: if you tie a brandmeister in TGIF talk group together,
Speaker 1: they're gonna disable you because they don't want any of
Speaker 1: their talk groups tied together, or at least that's how
Speaker 1: it used to be. But all of that to say,
Speaker 1: I've been involved in DMR for about twelve years. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit over twelve years. The second video
Speaker 1: I ever posted on this channel was what I call
Speaker 1: my anniversary date May second of twenty fifteen, which we're
Speaker 1: gonna be celebrating ten years of this channel on May
Speaker 1: second of twenty twenty five, so a tune for information
Speaker 1: about that. But that set that video was the very
Speaker 1: first time I had ever called the channel ham Radio
Speaker 1: two point zero and it was a presentation about intro
Speaker 1: to DMR that my friend Kent Wa five yxs and
Speaker 1: myself made at a local HAMM radio club here in
Speaker 1: the Fort Worth, Texas area. So lots changed since then.
Speaker 1: So I've been involved in DMR pretty much since the
Speaker 1: beginning of this YouTube channel. Okay, so I have some opinions.
Speaker 1: A lot of these opinions are probably not going to
Speaker 1: be shared by some of you. Some of you are
Speaker 1: going to disagree with what I have to say. And again,
Speaker 1: this is part one. I'm gonna make a part two
Speaker 1: to this video and talk a little bit more in depth.
Speaker 1: But I found this reddit article. Yes, this is another
Speaker 1: Reddit article. I was already talking about making a video
Speaker 1: about how I think DMR is used wrong, okay, and
Speaker 1: then I found this reddit article right here. Has Brandmeister
Speaker 1: USA really stopped issuing new talk groups. I've been trying
Speaker 1: to get a five digit group for our club now
Speaker 1: that we're putting up a new DMR repeater, and quite
Speaker 1: a few of us are already acting on DMR, but
Speaker 1: we've been using the club's DMR idea as the talk group.
Speaker 1: My question is, has Brandmeister really stopped issuing new talk
Speaker 1: group numbers? Their website states so here create new talk group.
Speaker 1: As of May of twenty twenty five, digit talk groups
Speaker 1: are no longer being labeled issued to the USA do
Speaker 1: their limited number of talk groups available so they haven't
Speaker 1: run out of talk groups. Yet your repeater six radio
Speaker 1: ID you can use as a talk group. They have
Speaker 1: not run out yet, I'm told, but they are not
Speaker 1: issuing talk groups anymore, or at least if they are,
Speaker 1: they're very slow to respond to keep everything above the table.
Speaker 1: I know one or two of the Brandmeister admins for
Speaker 1: Brandmeister USA, and I traded some emails with one of
Speaker 1: them before making this video, and I said, hey, here's
Speaker 1: what I want to say. It's not going to be
Speaker 1: in a positive light about Brandmeister. I don't want to
Speaker 1: step on anybody's toes. I'm not mad at anyone specifically.
Speaker 1: I just think that some things that were done were
Speaker 1: stupid and that kind of thing. So I traded some
Speaker 1: emails with him. I'm not going to tell you who
Speaker 1: it is. He was very polite. He and I get
Speaker 1: along very well. We've traded emails for years and years,
Speaker 1: so he knows what I'm what I'm doing here. And
Speaker 1: I showed him this Reddit article and he said, no,
Speaker 1: the five digit IDs are not all used up. But
Speaker 1: he says what used to happen was someone would request
Speaker 1: a talk group ID, they'd use it for a few months,
Speaker 1: and then they'd stop using it, so Brandmeisterer would turn
Speaker 1: it off because they can see all the stats of
Speaker 1: when the talk group is used. I mean it's all
Speaker 1: on the computer. It's all over the internet, okay, so
Speaker 1: everything's logged, Okay, so you can always see stats when
Speaker 1: the talk group is used. So they would turn the
Speaker 1: talk group off, and then about a year later they
Speaker 1: would get emails saying, hey, where'd my talk group go?
Speaker 1: Like they wouldn't even notice it's gone for months and
Speaker 1: months afterwards, and they're like, look, we can't just issue
Speaker 1: a talk group to anybody. If you're gonna use it,
Speaker 1: then fine, he said. The one of the last ones
Speaker 1: they issued was actually for Poda. There's a PoTA talk
Speaker 1: group on Brand. I had no idea myself. So you
Speaker 1: can still get a talk group, and the admins are
Speaker 1: overworked and there's not very many of them, so they're
Speaker 1: a little bit slow to respond. I don't think they've
Speaker 1: completely stopped, but they are a little bit slow just
Speaker 1: because they're overworked. Okay, first comment. In my experiences, they
Speaker 1: don't even monitor support tickets at all anymore. And I've
Speaker 1: heard lots of people say that we've had a linking
Speaker 1: request opened to update the exciting link for over an
Speaker 1: exciting link. Maybe an existing link is what he means.
Speaker 1: With no action despite repeated inquiry, Brandmeister is a great
Speaker 1: example of why centralized closed systems are bad for the hobby.
Speaker 1: So I've got I've got something to say about that.
Speaker 1: The first first comment here says, really unfortunate. Now we're
Speaker 1: all locked into a shambling husk of d on mor network.
Speaker 1: I ah, I made this call ten years ago. Ten
Speaker 1: years ago, I made this call. I'm like Brandmeister is
Speaker 1: a bad idea, and that's a big part about behind
Speaker 1: why I say we use DMR incorrectly. That's a big
Speaker 1: part of it. I'm not going to elaborate in this video.
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about specific topics about this video.
Speaker 1: So if you guys want to hear more about that,
Speaker 1: put a comment blow because i do want to talk
Speaker 1: more about that. Now we've all got locked into a
Speaker 1: shambling husk of dn MAR until somebody comes along and
Speaker 1: reinvents it. Well, that's already been done and the cycle
Speaker 1: begins anew. I'm sure there are no end of Ham's
Speaker 1: willing to pick up the reins and help manage it.
Speaker 1: Once again, that's already been done. But you know how
Speaker 1: a lot of these folks are. They'd rather take what
Speaker 1: they built to the grave than seed control, so it
Speaker 1: lives on. Once I started seeing the ten minute limit
Speaker 1: on every state wide talk group, I knew BM was
Speaker 1: done for. I started going through the wiki pages or whatever.
Speaker 1: It seems like they don't want anybody actually using the network. Now,
Speaker 1: I will say this, Okay, one thing, This is all
Speaker 1: I'm gonna This is the this is the this is
Speaker 1: the last thing I'm gonna say about. Well, maybe not
Speaker 1: the last thing. This is one of the last things
Speaker 1: I'm wanna say about this, Okay. One of the problems. Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's few fifty states in the nation, and there's fifty
Speaker 1: one entities, maybe fifty two entities as far as statewide
Speaker 1: talk groups in the USA, I'm talking about USA statewide
Speaker 1: talk groups. Here for amonent, Washington, d C. Has a
Speaker 1: statewide talk group, Puerto Rico has a statewide talk group.
Speaker 1: The US Virgin Islands, and a couple other of the
Speaker 1: US territories down in the east they might have talk
Speaker 1: groups too, I don't know, but there's at least fifty
Speaker 1: at least fifty two, including DC and Puerto Rico statewide
Speaker 1: talk groups. Not everyone had DMR before Brandmeister came around
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. Okay, not everyone did. Several states did.
Speaker 1: Texas did? Oklahoma? Did? Arkansas? Did Ohio? No? Not Ohio?
Speaker 1: Indiana did the Who's your network? Who's your DMR network? Florida? Did?
Speaker 1: I believe New York did? I think Arizona Turbo was
Speaker 1: around before? Then There's several others. Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: them all. Okay, those are the ones that I could
Speaker 1: name off the top of my head. We had our
Speaker 1: talk group, our Texas statewide Talk Group was three one
Speaker 1: four eight. We had that up and running for five
Speaker 1: years before Brandmeister ever came around. And when Brandmeister came
Speaker 1: around and created their own network, they duplicated everyone's statewide
Speaker 1: talk group network. So there was a Brandmeister three one
Speaker 1: four eight that was created in addition to the original
Speaker 1: Texas repeater network three one four eight. And when people
Speaker 1: would get on Brandmeister three one four eight, because I started,
Speaker 1: I did. I started a Texas statewide talk Group DMR
Speaker 1: net that still takes place to this day on talk
Speaker 1: Group three one four eight on the repeaters in the
Speaker 1: state of Texas. As far as I know, this is
Speaker 1: the only DMR net that is not piped out to
Speaker 1: everyone everywhere on the planet. This is an actual local
Speaker 1: Texas only at that only takes place on the Texas
Speaker 1: statewide repeaters. We have a sea bridge network in Texas,
Speaker 1: the sea bridge. There's multiple sea bridges that are all
Speaker 1: connected together in Texas. I own one of them. That
Speaker 1: talk group is shared with all the sea bridge owners
Speaker 1: in Texas, but it is not piped out to everyone
Speaker 1: else on the Internet. Okay, so we have an actual
Speaker 1: Texas statewide talk group. The thing that the talk group
Speaker 1: was supposed to was originally meant to be used for,
Speaker 1: was for people in that stake to communicate with one another.
Speaker 1: You have local talk groups, citywide talk groups, statewide talk groups,
Speaker 1: you have nationwide talk groups worldwide. You have talk groups
Speaker 1: segregated by geographical location, and talk groups segregated by language.
Speaker 1: There's English, French, Spanish, Russian, is Raeley talk groups. Okay,
Speaker 1: all kinds of talk groups like that. So the original
Speaker 1: Texas Statewide Talk Group was three one four eight. We
Speaker 1: started the net. I started the net in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: It's still going today. Several other people helped me take
Speaker 1: it over. So for other guys run it, I kind
Speaker 1: of took a step back a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: because I got tired of doing it after ten years.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, I took a step back. These
Speaker 1: guys do a fantastic job. These guys who run it
Speaker 1: now do a fantastic job. Every Wednesday at seven thirty pm,
Speaker 1: if you are in the state of Texas near a
Speaker 1: DMR repeater, you can get onto that net. But when
Speaker 1: Brandmeister spun up their network, they created three one four eight,
Speaker 1: and we would have I would get emails from people saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I turned on my hotspot last night on three one
Speaker 1: four eight and I didn't hear the net. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't get to it with a hotspot. You have
Speaker 1: to go into Texas and get on the repeater. And
Speaker 1: he's like, well, I'm in another state somewhere. How do
Speaker 1: I join your net. I'm like, you don't. It's a
Speaker 1: Texas net. It's not that we don't welcome other people, okay,
Speaker 1: but it's a Texas net. It's not a worldwide net.
Speaker 1: It's not a nationwide net. There used to be a
Speaker 1: spreadsheet list of several hundred DMR nets that took place
Speaker 1: all across the globe, all kinds of Brandmeister nets, c
Speaker 1: bridge nets. I'm sure there's probably some TGIF nets these.
Speaker 1: I used to have a list of like literally one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty nets that would take place once a
Speaker 1: month or once a week, all across the DMR networks
Speaker 1: that existed, okay, And the one thing they all had
Speaker 1: in common is that all of those talk groups through
Speaker 1: Brandmeister could be accessed from anywhere in the world. So
Speaker 1: you couldn't actually do a Texas or a Florida or
Speaker 1: in New York or a Wisconsin net because your talk
Speaker 1: group was spread to everybody across the planet. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that's cool, Okay, no problem. But we wanted a Texas net,
Speaker 1: or I wanted a Texas net, and that's what I created,
Speaker 1: and that's what still exists today. We have a net
Speaker 1: for Texas based ham radio operators who want to get
Speaker 1: on DMR and TOY and we'll have anywhere from thirty
Speaker 1: forty to fifty check ins on that net every week.
Speaker 1: But when Brandmeister duplicated our talk group, it caused huge
Speaker 1: amounts of confusion. We connected our talk group to Brandmeister
Speaker 1: for about a week, and all the Sea Bridge owners
Speaker 1: complained because guess what, this Canadian guy was talking to
Speaker 1: this guy in Florida and they were ragchewing for an
Speaker 1: hour and a half about nothing that didn't involve Texas
Speaker 1: with the Texas Talk group. But also I'm like, why
Speaker 1: you guys use your own talk group. People don't use
Speaker 1: talk groups correctly. As far as the state wide talk
Speaker 1: groups go, people don't use talk groups correctly. That's one
Speaker 1: of my big beefs about DMR in general. Now, if
Speaker 1: you do run a net, if you do run a
Speaker 1: net in fact, maybe I'll maybe I'll try to go.
Speaker 1: I used to do net control for my Texas state
Speaker 1: wid dmornet about well. I used to do it every week,
Speaker 1: and then a lot of really good guys stepped up
Speaker 1: and took over weeks and I would do it once
Speaker 1: a month instead of once a week, and then other
Speaker 1: people would do it on the other weeks of the year.
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Speaker 1: and thanks to them for sponsoring this video. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of comments kind of like this. There's a
Speaker 1: lot wrong with each of the digital mode implementations in
Speaker 1: this hobby. BM is DMR's biggest ugly elephant in the room.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't have systems that rely on external entity for
Speaker 1: linking and communication. I think the whole purpose of amateur
Speaker 1: radio noncentralized communication depend of large centralized servers. Well okay, yes, no,
Speaker 1: I no, I think that that. I think that's I
Speaker 1: think that's accurate. Okay, but we had that and we
Speaker 1: gave that up in lieu of brandmeister. Okay, more to
Speaker 1: come on that later today, I want to talk about this.
Speaker 1: This is, this is, this is. This kind of made
Speaker 1: me laugh here, and this isn't specifically about DMR. Dm
Speaker 1: R is the dumbest mode for ham radio for the
Speaker 1: simple fact that every call sign needs a radio ID
Speaker 1: assigned to it for it to work on any network.
Speaker 1: And I replied, this is my reply. Every digital mode
Speaker 1: needs this. DSTAR and YSF use a call sign, DMR
Speaker 1: uses a number. If you fail to enter any of
Speaker 1: those into a radio, you won't be able to transmit
Speaker 1: on the network wires X, DSTAR network whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: see how DMR is more complicated than others just because
Speaker 1: you use a number rather than your call sign. And
Speaker 1: he replies back, you have to regisure that call sign
Speaker 1: with a third party. Yes, that is radioid dot net,
Speaker 1: which is run by him out of Canada. Yes, that's correct,
Speaker 1: which then assigns you the ID. The process isn't trivial.
Speaker 1: You have to create an account and upload a reference
Speaker 1: copy of your license. From what I can remember, you
Speaker 1: are correct, that is that is an absolute truth. I
Speaker 1: know plenty of hams that can't be bothered with that.
Speaker 1: If you don't have a reference copy of your license,
Speaker 1: then it's off to mess with the FCC website to
Speaker 1: try to find it. I think it's stupid because it's
Speaker 1: a result of DMR being a commercial mode on a
Speaker 1: Yazoo radio. You input your call sign in off you go,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? You don't have a copy of
Speaker 1: your Ham radio license? What so? The FCC used to
Speaker 1: used to mail you a physical hard copy, a paper
Speaker 1: copy of your license when you got licensed, when you
Speaker 1: renewed your license, when you upgraded your license, they would
Speaker 1: mail you a physical copy. Several years ago they stopped this.
Speaker 1: They stopped doing it, and now you can download your
Speaker 1: license in PDF format. Guess what, guys, there's my license
Speaker 1: right there. I had a plan that my wife actually
Speaker 1: made that for me Christmas leg of several years ago.
Speaker 1: That black sign with the wood frame around it, that
Speaker 1: is my general ticket Ham radio license. That's what that is.
Speaker 1: You are required to have your license displayed in your hamshack,
Speaker 1: or in your mobile shack, or on your person. I
Speaker 1: used to have a paper copy in my wallet. I
Speaker 1: should probably renew that. I don't actually have that myself.
Speaker 1: You're required who doesn't have a copy of their HAMM
Speaker 1: radio license? You should have a You should already have that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't I read this, and I'm like, is this
Speaker 1: guy serious? You don't have a You have to be
Speaker 1: bothered to go get a DMRID. You have to be
Speaker 1: bothered to go download your handwrit You should already have that, dude.
Speaker 1: You should have that displayed in your hamshack. You should
Speaker 1: have a copy of it saved somewhere. It's part of
Speaker 1: the FCC requirements of your license to have a copy
Speaker 1: of your HAMM radio license that you can show to
Speaker 1: someone should they ask for it, which never happens. Okay,
Speaker 1: but why would you not have a copy of your
Speaker 1: ham radio license? That doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.
Speaker 1: So I go on to reply to this guy. I
Speaker 1: was like, every ham should already have a copy of
Speaker 1: their license. It's actually required for you to have a
Speaker 1: copy of your license. Your home station, mobil station were
Speaker 1: on your person. They used to mail hard copies, but
Speaker 1: since they stop, that is on s to go download
Speaker 1: a PDF copy of your license and keep them. Why
Speaker 1: would anyone not want a copy of your own license?
Speaker 1: They're free to download from the FCCUS, by the way,
Speaker 1: totally free to download. Yes, this is a result of
Speaker 1: DMR being a commercial mode, but DMR is also the
Speaker 1: fastest growing digital voice mode and HAM radio, so it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem that be that much of a hurdle for
Speaker 1: most people. My point was that you still have to
Speaker 1: put in an input something into the radio to use
Speaker 1: the radio on a network, unlike analog all Star ecolinkuage
Speaker 1: recards nothing. And then I replied again, also, and I
Speaker 1: used to be in one of the admin's on radioid
Speaker 1: dot net, so I know this is true. I remember
Speaker 1: when this happened. You used to be able to go
Speaker 1: on radioid dot net, put in your call sign, get
Speaker 1: a radio ID and done, boom done. Now you have
Speaker 1: to upload a copy of your license, and the reason
Speaker 1: for that is to prevent fraud. The reason the license
Speaker 1: is required on radioid dot net is to prevent someone
Speaker 1: else from using your call sign to get a dMRI ID,
Speaker 1: input it in the radio and cause mischief on the
Speaker 1: bands with someone else's call sign. YESU and d Star
Speaker 1: have no way to prevent this. Jesu and Icon, I
Speaker 1: should say, Jesu and ICOM have no way to prevent this.
Speaker 1: I can buy an Icon radio and put in anybody's
Speaker 1: call sign I want to. I can buy a Yazoo radio,
Speaker 1: put it in anybody's call sign, get on wires X. Okay,
Speaker 1: you could input your call sign into my radio if
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I could input your call sign in
Speaker 1: my radio if I wanted to, and keep on the
Speaker 1: network as you and you could do it to me. Also,
Speaker 1: when you get a brand new Yazu radio or a
Speaker 1: brand new Icon radio the Yaesu, the first thing when
Speaker 1: you first boot it up, it first asks for your
Speaker 1: call sign. It kind of forces you to put in.
Speaker 1: You can bypass it, but it kind of forces you
Speaker 1: to put in your call sign. The Icon seven oh five.
Speaker 1: When I first got it, I was tinkering around with
Speaker 1: it and I couldn't get it to work on d Star.
Speaker 1: I contacted Bob K six Uda and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: can you help me with this? And he's like yeah,
Speaker 1: And we got on a Zoom call and the first
Speaker 1: thing he said was, Okay, did you input your call sign?
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I didn't. He's like, oh, that's why
Speaker 1: you can't get on the network. You have to input
Speaker 1: a call sign. Well, what's to keep me from putting
Speaker 1: in AB seven GD or Bob K six uda. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put your call sign in and get on d Star. Hey,
Speaker 1: this is Bob K six y Uda. Screw all you guys.
Speaker 1: What do you guys do it? You know, there's nothing
Speaker 1: to prevent you from doing that. You can put any
Speaker 1: call sign into a YAESU radio, or a or a
Speaker 1: Icon radio or a Kenwood D Star radio. You can
Speaker 1: put any call sign in there you want to. There's
Speaker 1: no verification process with DMR. You have to upload a
Speaker 1: copy your license, so to prove who you are. I
Speaker 1: guess if if someone were to steal your license, a
Speaker 1: copy of your license, then yeah, I mean if you
Speaker 1: were if you left your license laying around someone took
Speaker 1: a picture of it, took a copy of it. That okay,
Speaker 1: maybe they could do that if they want to go
Speaker 1: to that much trouble. But that's the reason your license
Speaker 1: is required. To get a DMRID at radioid dot net,
Speaker 1: so that you can prove who you are and that
Speaker 1: DMRID is assigned to you and not someone else claiming
Speaker 1: to be you. There's a lot of other comments in here.
Speaker 1: These guys talk about M seventeen. M seventeen the real
Speaker 1: answer to proprietary crap and control. So yeah, M seventeen
Speaker 1: guys get in here and they kind of rail on
Speaker 1: these DMR forums sometimes, so other stuff in here like this.
Speaker 1: So suffice it to say, Brandmeister is one of my complaints.
Speaker 1: I don't like the way they implemented certain things. And
Speaker 1: I called again, I called this ten years ago. Ten
Speaker 1: years ago. I saw the way they were doing things.
Speaker 1: I saw the way they were duplicating IDs. I didn't
Speaker 1: like the way they were doing certain things. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a good thing. I don't
Speaker 1: think this is a good thing. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that I get toltalized like, well, brandmeister is free.
Speaker 1: I used to be on a bunch of DMR talk
Speaker 1: groups before I got my Facebook account hacked and taken
Speaker 1: away from me. So I used to be on a
Speaker 1: bunch of DMR talk groups and one of the common
Speaker 1: matras was, well, brandmeister is free, brandmeister is free. Well,
Speaker 1: go into I challenge you to do this. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you're a member of a Facebook group about Brandmeister, about
Speaker 1: dm R, go in there and say, hey, thank you
Speaker 1: Brandmeister for making a free service for us. The admins
Speaker 1: will come in there and say, hey, guess what, it's
Speaker 1: not free. We pay for it. Please go here and
Speaker 1: make a PayPal donation. And most people don't do that.
Speaker 1: Most people want to use it for free and then
Speaker 1: complain about it when they don't put any money and
Speaker 1: no skin in the game at all. It's not a
Speaker 1: free service. Someone somewhere is paying for that. And most
Speaker 1: of the time it's the admins and people keeping the
Speaker 1: network alive, so they could, you know, turn that off
Speaker 1: anytime they wanted to. I guess I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: you should be Maybe you should go be thanking your
Speaker 1: Brandmeister admins other than railing on them. That's one thing
Speaker 1: about DMR that I think we use it wrong. There's
Speaker 1: more stuff, there's more stuff that I think is used wrong,
Speaker 1: but Brandmeister is a big part of why I kind
Speaker 1: of got burned out on DMR. Let me know. If
Speaker 1: you want to hear further issues on this topic, check
Speaker 1: out this Reddit article that I'm going to link in
Speaker 1: the description blow I want to I want to see
Speaker 1: what your thoughts are. If you like this video, check
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