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Speaker 1: I see gold going a lot higher this year, silver

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the same. So silver's all time highs roughly fifty dollars

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an ounce. It's still around thirty four, so it still

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needs a fifty percent game to get back to those

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all time highs. But it's common.

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Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. Alan Hibbert is

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with us now Goldsilver dot com. Alan, Hey, it's been

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a few months, but a lot has happened during those

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few months, hasn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me back, Kerry, appreciate it. There's

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a lot to discussed in gold and silver.

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Speaker 3: Right, so record high prices now, it looks like maybe

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we're due for a little pullback. That wouldn't be surprising,

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would it.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean there's always pullbacks in the market, But

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I mean if you're the type of investor that I am,

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you zoom out and you look at the big picture

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and you don't worry about the day to day noise.

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So I see gold going a lot higher this year,

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Silver the same. So silver's all time highs roughly fifty

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dollars announce, it's still around thirty four, so it still

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needs a fifty percent gain to get back to those

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all time highs, but it's common maybe in the next

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year or two.

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Speaker 3: Right, and hey, Eric Sprott thinks we're looking at three

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hundred dollars three hundred dollars silver. I mean, I'd love

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to see it, but I think that's possible.

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Speaker 1: Well eventually, Yeah, it depets how long you're willing to wait.

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So a lot of silver stackers have been waiting decades

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right for these prices. So if you're willing to wait longer,

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I mean, you could see those prices be realized. And

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something that just happened, either earlier today or yesterday was

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robin Hood stopping trading of PSLV. So speaking of sprot silver,

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Robinhood traders can't buy into that silver etf anymore. And

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I haven't had a chance to look beyond the headlines.

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But it seems suspicious to me that something like that

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would happen at this point in the market when there's

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potentially a run on physical silver. So that does seem

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a little excuse me, that does seem a little suspicious.

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But perhaps there's a benign explanation there. So I guess

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we'll see.

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Speaker 3: All right, somebody plugged it into chat GPT and basically

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is it being manipulated and how is it being done

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and why? And I'm going to plug it in right

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now and let's see if it changed its mind. But

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there is no public, verified evidence proving illegal manipulation. That said,

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there are legitimate concerns about silver price manipulation in general,

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and since PSLV is a physical silver trust, any manipulation

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of the spot price of silver would naturally impacted. But

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there was a huge spike in the short position in PSLV,

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and you know, it was like somebody sent me a

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chart of it. It was huge. Let's just say, is

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there a huge spike in ps LV shorts?

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Speaker 1: That's what I saw.

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Speaker 3: The chart was like it was like five hundred times.

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Speaker 1: Alan no gez Okay, Yeah, I didn't see that chart,

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but it wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 3: Alic like you couldn't believe, so let's just ask it.

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And because it knows all right, it's like the old

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Johnny Carson character, all knowing, all seeing profit there.

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Speaker 1: It does make mistakes, though, keep that in mind, like

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if you ever ask it about a topic that you

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know really well, you will spot errors pretty pretty easily.

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Speaker 3: That is true interest. Right in ps LV I saw Now,

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I don't know what it means, but it was like huge.

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Now it says there's a decline. I don't know what happened.

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I'm going to look up that email. But the point

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is something's going on with PSLV and will a short

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squeeze a result. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sort of looks like it's playing out if

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you look at the other signs and symptoms in the market.

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And it's not just sober, by the way, it's also gold.

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So there really seems to be a run on both medals,

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you know, both physical metals, and like going back to

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the question of you know, is are these markets manipulated

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or you know, is there illegal activity going on? If

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you just think about the fact that paper contracts exist,

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futures contracts, and there's more futurest contracts than there are

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physical we know that that's public information. It's not controversial

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or conspiratorial. If there's more paper ounces than physical ounces,

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the market trades as if the supply were a lot

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bigger than it really is. And if you know basic economics,

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whenever the apply goes up, that's going to effectively bring

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the price down. So just by having extra paper ounces

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of gold and silver, the price is going to come

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down below what it otherwise would. So that might not

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be illegal, that might not be conspiratorial, but just that

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feature of the market alone causes the price to be

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a lot lower. Now, are there other illegal activities that

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go on from time to time? I'm sure there are.

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You know, just a few years ago a couple of

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traders at JP Morgan went to jail for manipulating the

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gold market. But in terms of at any given time,

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who's doing illegal things or not, I have no idea.

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That doesn't really enter into my investment thesis. It's just

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that it's just that any time that there's a run

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on the physical metal, you're going to see the markets

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unlined and shoot up the way that we're seeing right now,

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And there doesn't have to be any malicious intent going

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on that's just basic supply and demand.

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Speaker 3: Here there's an article in Seeking Alpha seven days ago.

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Is PSLV being shorted to stop a silver squeeze? You know,

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like I knew, I didn't make this stuff up here, Ellen,

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you know, I mean it's really happening.

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Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, it is for sure. Well, I mean everyone

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has their agenda, right. Some people want the price to

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go up, others want the price to go down. We know,

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the governments and central banks and all their counterparts, they

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have an interest in metals prices being lower because then

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people don't pay attention to them. They focus more on

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the dollar and the whole Fiat system and playing that game.

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Whereas when the price of these medals is high, people

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pay attention to gold and silver and they start asking

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questions and they say, you know, is the gold in

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Fort Knox? And why do we even care about gold?

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And you know, is the dollar backed by gold? And hmm?

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Are these things really money? And that's that's not good

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if you're trying to control people.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up because I wrote an

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article on what would happen if the gold wasn't in

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Fort Knox? Like Elon Musk and Donald Trump you know,

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they take air first one out there to Kentucky and

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they go in the place these huge vaults where you

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saw like a goldfinger all that, and then there's nothing there.

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So my point being that they can't allow there to

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be nothing there because I think it would collapse the

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entire global financial system exactly.

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Speaker 1: You have all kinds of riots, civil war. I mean,

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it would be you can't predict how people are going

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to react. That's too volatile of a risk, so you

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can't let it happen. So if you're going to do

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an audit, you have to know ahead of time that

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everything's there, everything checks all the boxes, and then you

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can have a controlled response. So I agree. I haven't

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read your article, but I agree with your thesis there.

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We'll throw a link in the show notes to it.

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Speaker 3: But it would be a disaster. Maybe they could figure

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something out, but the credibility of the government would be

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hugely diminished. It would affect the dollar, and it would

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certainly affect the treasuries out there. It would be a nightmare.

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So I talked about this with Craig Hamke and we

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both agreed, regardless of what's happening there, there will be

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some semblance of gold there as far as the human

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eye could see. In fact, they'll count it and they'll say,

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you know what, we were off by ten percent. We

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have nine thousand tons, not eight thousand. You know, something

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like that will happen. I guarantee it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have more than we thought. Oh where did

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this come from? Oh well, I guess it's ours. I'm

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error right, Yeah, it could happen. I doubt it, but

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it could.

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Speaker 3: You know, Like last year alone, PSLV was up thirty

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six and a half percent, you know, so it wasn't

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a bad year for metals. But I think we're kind

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of due to take a breather, barring any unforeseen disaster.

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Speaker 1: Yeahs around the corner, it could be. I mean there's

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always ups and downs, and thankfully I've developed a strategy,

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you know, for my own personal investing where the little

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ups and downs don't matter. I mean, for most of

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that is noise, in my opinion. Whenever I buy something,

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I'm planning on holding it at least a decade, probably

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multiple decades. So yeah, I just accumulate little by littles,

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and if the price stays low, that just means I

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can accumulate more. And if it goes up, well great,

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it like, you know, temporarily feels good until the next pullback,

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and then I say, okay, well nothing really changed in

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my portfolio. I still have the same number of ounces

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I had before. So yeah, just the nominal dollar value

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has gone up. So I guess the deal is, do

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you buy now, do you wait for the pullback?

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Speaker 3: What do you do?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: I buy a little bit every month, no matter what.

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doing it for people who want to get a bit

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more exotic. I mean, you run the risk of you know,

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if there isn't a pullback, then you know you're going

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to pay more for whatever you buy. So I tried

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to do that in the past, and I realized I

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wasn't very good at anticipating these day to day, week

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to week movements. There's just it's just too hard for me.

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a little bit every month and then I take my

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own skill out of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well that's it. That's it. So what about

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cryptos what you're feeling here?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: Talk to one analyst who said that crypto is so

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multi leveraged, you know, by different parties, and then they're

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putting together ETFs because people can't afford to buy cryptos,

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so they're buying ETFs, and it's just going to be

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this cascading chain of failures if somehow the market loses faith, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That definitely could happen. So when we talk about the

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crypto market, the first thing I like to do is

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clarify that bitcoin, in my opinion, is different than all

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the other cryptos. So these are two separate things. So

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I look at bitcoin like digital gold, and gold is

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you know, different than the stock market. So I would

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I would separate gold from all the stocks of the

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world the same way i'd separate bitcoin from all the

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other cryptocurrencies of the world. So all those cryptos are centralized,

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just like stocks, right, they have a management team and

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they're trying to create partnerships and create useful products and services,

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and that works that that people can do things with,

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whereas bitcoin is sort of like a dumb rock, sort

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of like gold. It just sits there and it's easy

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to dismiss it as being slow and heavy and worthless,

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but in reality it's a store of value. So I

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think it's the unsexy pick you just buy it and

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it sits there and people say it has no use case.

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it's it's not going to do anything on a minute

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to minute basis. It's not going to travel around the

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world doing smart contracts and you know, blowing all kinds

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of bells and whistles. So all these all these other

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cryptos on the other hands, you know, some of them

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might have awesome use cases. They might do fantastic things,

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but they might crash and burn and all the products

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built around them, whether they be ETFs or I c

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o s or NFTs or you name it. You could

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make money. You could make a profit, a fiat profit,

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you know, playing these games. But I would encourage people

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to stay very far away from all of them. It's

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it's worse than gambling. Like it's it's way worse than gambling.

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You could get rich, but you're probably going to go broke. Yeah,

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at least, unlike gold, you don't have to bury it

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in the ground, right, Yeah, exactly. You can put it

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in a cold storage device. It looks like a USB drive,

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you know, if it's in the palm of your hand,

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and you could put that wherever you want, you know,

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in your sock drawer or in a desk drawer, wherever

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it doesn't does have to be in the ground. It's

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very very easy to keep track of these things and

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put it somewhere convenient, all right, All.

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Speaker 3: Right, So any more advice for those listening or insights

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where you should be buying it, what kind of gold

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you should be getting? What's your feelings now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, with any of these investments, whether it's gold, silver,

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or bitcoin, I would strongly encourage people to take physical

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delivery quote unquote. I know with bitcoin obviously it's digital,

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so it doesn't really make sense to take physical delivery.

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But the analogy in the bitcoin space is to hold

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your own private keys. So wherever you get your gold

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sol or your bitcoin, make sure you have it in

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your possession. So if you can, if you can hold

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it in your hand, if you can touch it, then

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you've got it right and nobody else, nobody else owes

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you something after you have it in your hands. And

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so with bitcoin, take your private keys. With golden silver,

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take physical delivery, keep it somewhere safe, and then after that,

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once you have your your base position, established, then you

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can start maybe maybe doing ETFs or other sort of

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digital or paper promises.

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Speaker 3: All right, I like it, all right, So Goldsilver dot com.

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How do else do we find you on the web? Here?

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Speaker 1: Oh, you can follow me on Twitter or ax at

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Alan Hibbard. Otherwise, yeah, goldsilver dot com and the Goldsilver

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YouTube channel.

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Speaker 3: Great, and the links in the show notes of this

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