WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:06.440 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY Boston's news video. 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:07.960 All Right, em My, thanks a lot. The world is 3 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:11.560 coming to an end. Basically, just kiss you're asked goodbye. 4 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:13.279 That's the way I feel right now. 5 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.719 How's that? How do we like that to start a show? 6 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:17.440 Rob Brooks? 7 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:20.920 How about that? The world is coming to an end? 8 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:23.519 We are going to lead with that in a moment, Mike, 9 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:25.559 We're able to the Patriots, Bert Brie and my buddy. 10 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:28.320 We're going to talk about that coming up. People don't 11 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:30.359 want to be teachers anymore, and quite frankly, we're screwed 12 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:33.880 because of it. Sad day today. Bob Buker has passed away. 13 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:36.960 Just a bit outside. Shaughnessy joins us to talk about that, 14 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:42.479 and we will talk to my friend from California, will 15 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:44.399 tell us about what's going on in California. And also 16 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:46.920 we'll get into some politics with the Great Sam Bethlick 17 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:50.479 Tory Champagne also joining us to talk severance in the 18 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:54.719 SNL movie. But first up, the dynamic duo of Weather, 19 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:01.240 the tag team meteorologist grouping of the century. 20 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.119 It is Matt and Daniel. 21 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:08.159 Noise that is maybe the nicest intro we've. 22 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:14.000 Ever had one degree outside dot com? Uh is there organization? 23 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:17.239 And here's the sad thing about it is that we 24 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:20.040 kind of worked together for a while. I had no 25 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:21.439 idea you guys were married. 26 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:25.200 Surprise none. 27 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:29.560 As I said to my wife, I got that dude, 28 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:30.239 had no shot. 29 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:30.840 No. 30 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.200 But anyways, it's like I got when you when you 31 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:35.560 started the company one. 32 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:40.799 Degrees and went, oh, they're married. I swear to God, 33 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:43.120 no idea. I had no idea. But good for you 34 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:44.799 is awesome, and good for you. 35 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:46.640 For getting out to hear you on the air. Well, 36 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.079 I'm glad you're in tonight, Gary. Thanks for having us. 37 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:50.680 It's great to hear you on the air and soundthing. 38 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:52.359 You've got a great show lined up her. 39 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:57.000 Oh yeah, well we try, you know. So you know, Danielle, 40 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:03.280 please jump in. Don't don't let Matt dominate here. Yeah, 41 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:03.760 there you go. 42 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:09.319 But and I do feel And Trump came out and 43 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:12.159 said there's no global warming, which you know, I'm pretty 44 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:15.159 much a pacifist with anything, you know, I don't really 45 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:16.280 get upset about anything. 46 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:18.919 It really takes a lot to piss me off, it 47 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:20.879 really does about anything. 48 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:25.560 But even I know that global warming is an issue 49 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:26.759 now to what degree. 50 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:28.120 I don't know. I haven't researched it. 51 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:32.159 But you know, Matt, how bad is the weather situation 52 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:34.840 right now and we're seeing it in California? 53 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:38.800 Well? Absolutely, I mean, look, there's no question the globe 54 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.759 has warmed. I mean it's irrefutable in terms of the research. 55 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.599 Now where what it comes down to, though, right, is 56 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:48.479 that you say, well, how much of that is man made? 57 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:50.439 How much of that is natural? Look, at the end 58 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.960 of the day, I would argue that for something like 59 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:57.680 what's going on in LA does it really matter in 60 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.319 the moment. It matters overall because we know that we're 61 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:03.240 raising the bar on more frequent extreme weather events. But 62 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:05.879 one of the things that you see going on here 63 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:08.680 Gary is whenever you get a big event, we saw 64 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:12.439 it when we had the hurricane flooded North Carolina. We're 65 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:16.560 seeing it with the fires, the blame game begins almost 66 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:19.479 right away. I mean the fires were still burning and 67 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.759 the blame game begins. And so there's really two answers. 68 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:26.919 One is, yes, global warming absolutely raises the bar, changes 69 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:29.639 the game, right, makes the extremes more extreme. But the 70 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:34.560 other answer is natural disasters happen regardless, right, They happened 71 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.520 before the planet was warming, that happening now. They may 72 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:40.280 happen more often now, but we have to accept and 73 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:42.639 get to a point where we respond in a way 74 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:48.800 that we understand that nature does terrible things sometimes and 75 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.120 we have to band together to make sure that we 76 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:53.159 get through it and learn lessons from it and move 77 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.400 forward from it. Climate change only raises the bar And 78 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:56.199 does that make sense? 79 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:59.520 Well, yeah it does, And Danielle, it sounds like it. 80 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:04.719 When events like this happen, the climate chain escalates it. 81 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:07.599 Just what Matt was saying, So, like, to what degree 82 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:10.800 do you think like it? Does it exaggerated by thirty percent? 83 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:13.879 Does it exaggerated by fifty percent? I mean, I don't know, 84 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:16.279 you know what, can you put a number on it? 85 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:19.120 You know, I don't think you can put a number 86 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:21.199 on it, Gary, right, because you know, so many people 87 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:24.639 are impacted by some of these natural disasters and understandably 88 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:28.519 are going through an absolutely horrific time. And so you know, 89 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:31.439 sometimes folks say both seasons, say oh is this or 90 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:33.519 that or the other thing? The bottom line is too 91 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.040 it's a combination of all of these different things, and 92 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:38.120 the best thing to do is to you know, be 93 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:42.120 positive and you know, try to band together when these 94 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.000 horrific events occur. So I don't think you can exactly 95 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:47.439 put a number on it, aside from the fact that 96 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.199 maybe if they're happening more frequently, you know, these you know, 97 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:55.519 the blaming and the topics come up more frequently as. 98 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:58.199 Well, So you know, you can put certainly a number 99 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:01.680 on the increase in the number of intent hurricanes that 100 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:04.800 we see. You can put a number on the increase 101 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:09.240 in the overall cyclone energy that's released into the atmosphere 102 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:12.439 because of storm development. And so what researchers are doing 103 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.600 right now is trying to put a number on as 104 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:16.959 many of these things as possible. So you can put 105 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:19.079 a number on the fact that you can look at 106 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.600 the months that the wildfire season in California goes and 107 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:25.519 realize that you used to have a wildfire season and 108 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:27.800 now you pretty much have expanded that to the point 109 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.879 where it's just about the entire year long. Just like 110 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:32.800 here at home in New England, we can put a 111 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:35.600 number on our growing season and say that we used 112 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:39.040 to have a first frost and a last frost that 113 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:42.360 actually ended up being a month shorter growing season than 114 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:44.959 we have now. So, in other words, Gary, because of 115 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.399 the fact that our average temperature has risen by so much, 116 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:49.519 you're able to grow more things and new things than 117 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:52.399 you ever were. But that's because your warmer overall. So 118 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:55.439 there are ways to put numbers on this stuff. It 119 00:05:55.600 --> 00:06:00.000 is being done by research. It doesn't necessarily play out 120 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.079 in the real world's story and practicality, But yes, you 121 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:04.199 can put numbers on all. 122 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:07.000 Of Danielle, is there a solution to what's happening in California? 123 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:07.920 This is a tough question. 124 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:10.319 I have no I mean, I don't know, but you know, 125 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.360 homes are burning down fire hydrants, and I'm trying, I'm 126 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:18.040 trying to separate fact from fiction, you know, but fire 127 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:21.920 hydrants supposedly were empty. They didn't have proper water distribution, 128 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:24.920 which it's the ultimate second guess right now, but it 129 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:28.319 would seem to me places in California have to make 130 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:34.439 be treat fire like a terrorist like it has to 131 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:41.120 treat the weather like a potential it's an opponent. Are 132 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:42.839 they taking it seriously enough? 133 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:46.120 I think they're taking it seriously. You know, you look 134 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.519 at something daring a year ago today, just over a 135 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:53.600 year ago, all of California was not in drops. They 136 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:54.199 were dealing with a. 137 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:57.800 Record rainfall from the atmosphere river and they had munthlisee 138 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:01.560 and flash flooding and a whole being classed under these 139 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:02.120 mud slides. 140 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:05.360 It was a totally different scenario of one eight from 141 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:07.839 one year ago. So you think about you know that 142 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:10.439 there if we were talking a year ago, be saying okay, well, 143 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:12.800 what can we do because this was such a record 144 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:16.199 wet period for California. So I do think, you know, 145 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:17.720 in general, these more. 146 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:20.920 Extreme events occur, but it's both ends of the spectrum. Right, 147 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:22.480 It's not just the wildfire when. 148 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:25.920 He said it's the wet season. It's these atmospheric rivers, 149 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:28.680 more moisture in the atmosphere. So I think the best 150 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:30.639 way that you know to kind of combat that and 151 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:33.720 tapitle it is to you know, work together to figure 152 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:34.600 out ways that we. 153 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:37.279 Can you know, be able to handle these situations and 154 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:40.240 move forward because they're going to keep happening. 155 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:42.240 Well, it's a great point, and so to add to that, 156 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:44.519 so what are some ways that you can learn? Right? 157 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.240 And so here's the thing is that there are other 158 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:49.480 places in the world, of course, Gary that deal with 159 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:52.639 significant wildfires. Right, we see this in Australia, they have 160 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:56.000 extended routes, they have big wildfire seasons. So what have done. 161 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:58.519 They've changed the building code out there, and they've actually 162 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:00.519 changed it to the point where most of thems and 163 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:02.199 a lot of the buildings are actually built to be 164 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:05.040 fire or target and fire resistance. So when you get 165 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.519 fires in the embers are blowing through, there's a much 166 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.079 lesser chance that you're going to ignite. Now. Having said that, 167 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:11.879 they also have learned over time that you have to 168 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:14.519 accept that wildfires are going to be a recurring part 169 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:17.439 of existence. But at the same time, you can up 170 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:19.360 the code, you can change the way things are done. 171 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:22.279 It's interesting what you mentioned about, you know, because I 172 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:25.360 saw the exact same things that you saw. Right, Was 173 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.079 there enough water? Did you have enough? Was it a 174 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:29.160 piping system? Right? 175 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:30.160 Was it all right? 176 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:34.960 And one of the analogies I make is to us 177 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.080 here in New England. All right, So we haven't had 178 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:40.320 a major hurricane hit New England since nineteen fifty four. 179 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:44.240 Nineteen fifty four, so basically, unless you were alive for that, 180 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:46.360 you've never seen a major hurricane in New England. And 181 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.639 it hasn't been a real good strike since the Great 182 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.080 Hurricane of thirty eight. What a lot of folks don't realize, Gary, 183 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:55.600 is our own natural disaster here in New England. It's 184 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:58.720 not a question of whether this would happen when it hits, 185 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:01.879 just like in thirty eight when it brought down fifty 186 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:05.600 percent of our white pine trees. When we get hit 187 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:09.039 by the next major hurricane, folks will be it's not 188 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:12.320 a question will be without power for two months. And 189 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:15.360 when folks go without power for two months, the blame 190 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.559 game will begin. Is the utility companies aren't ready? Is 191 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:21.440 that you know it'll go on and on. The reality though, Gary, 192 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:24.440 is that with a lot of these events. Look, it's 193 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.080 it is something that does destroy the infrastructure, It overwhelms 194 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.840 the infrastructure, and we have to be ready for the 195 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:32.279 fact that these things are going to happen. 196 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:36.159 Right Joining us right now, Daniel Noise and Matt Noise 197 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:39.559 from one degree outside dot Com. We are going to 198 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:41.840 get to continue this conversation coming up next right here 199 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:43.720 on WBC's Nightside. 200 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:47.200 Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World. 201 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:50.600 Night Side Studios on WBZ NewsRadio. 202 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:51.879 World's coming to and End World. 203 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.879 That's what Tangle is saying here, But we have the 204 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:57.720 experts of Matt Daniel Noise joining us from one degree 205 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.000 outside dot com. Check them out. They've got a lot 206 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.399 aud and great stuff on the website when it comes 207 00:10:02.440 --> 00:10:06.360 to weather and various services and if you need some consultants, 208 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:09.919 they are the people for you. So just to wrap 209 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.320 up the West Andiel, I'll ask you this question, you 210 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.759 know Hindsight's twenty twenty. Is there any way obviously you 211 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.120 couldn't prevent a fire from happening, It's I mean, that's impossible. 212 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:22.559 Is there any where you could have prevented the extent 213 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.519 of what is happening right now in California? 214 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:30.399 Well, Gary, I mean southern California, especially over the last 215 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:32.919 couple of weeks. If there's a weekly drought monitor that 216 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.279 comes out, and over the last couple of weeks, southern 217 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:37.519 California has gone into severe and now as of this 218 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.159 morning's up the parts of southern California or an extreme drought. 219 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:43.440 So if you think about that, and you know, the 220 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.200 dry tinder and all the brush that's around in southern 221 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.679 California could certainly take takes you know, even a small 222 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:50.559 measure of cutting some of that back. So you have 223 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:53.039 a little you know, tinder to work with. Once you 224 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.679 Santa Ana, winds kick up and that's you know, additional 225 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:59.080 fuel to the fire. Obviously you're going to have the winds, 226 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:02.200 that's number one meets as can't control those weather aspects 227 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:03.759 of it, but you would be able to cut some 228 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:05.320 of the brush and some of those you know, kind 229 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:07.879 of clear out those spots, so that's not additional fuel 230 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:10.440 for the plane, all right. 231 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.200 So moving on, Matt, what is the most dangerous place 232 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:14.799 in the world when it comes to weather. 233 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:21.120 It's a great question. The answers would vary. I would 234 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.240 say that if you looked at something overall, you'd probably 235 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:26.240 be looking at something like a Bangladesh, where you're going 236 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:29.519 to get these tremendous monsoonal rains that come in and 237 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:32.799 cyclones that come in and all of that that certainly 238 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:35.759 can be can be you know, a deadly set up. 239 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:38.600 But then again, if you wanted to talk about cold, right, 240 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:41.159 you'd be looking at someplace like Siberia. If you wanted 241 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:44.240 to talk about desert, you'd be looking out across portions 242 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:46.759 of Africa. So it depends pick your poison. At the 243 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:48.960 end of the day, you know, there's a lot of 244 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.559 different extreme weather just of all different types. But I 245 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:55.240 would say it's probably when you get into those monsoon 246 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.440 rain and tropical cyclone, belt typhoons and all that where 247 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:00.320 you get into some of your kind of a still 248 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:01.279 over all kind of risk. 249 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.639 Danielle, here's the unpredictability of the weather worldwide. 250 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:10.360 Has that increased, you know? 251 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.600 I would say I don't think it has. Just this 252 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:15.320 kind of two ways to look at it, right, And 253 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:17.720 one way is to say, even in the last five 254 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:20.759 to ten years, technology and weather modeling and the way 255 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:23.399 the forecast has changed so dramatically that we can be 256 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:27.240 very precise in our forecast. That being said, the frequency 257 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.480 of these events happen more regularly, right, So I don't 258 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.399 think it's necessarily more difficult the forecast. There's just so 259 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:35.919 many more disturbances than storms. 260 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:38.279 That's a really great Yeah, that's a great answer. Actually, 261 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:40.200 it's a great way to put it. It's, you know, 262 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:45.919 the events really are quite predictable, which is, to Danielle's point, 263 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:49.399 a great testament to the technology. Right at the same time, 264 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.840 certainly when the extremes are rising, the impact continues to increase, 265 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:58.120 and so this is something that you do see natural cycles. Gary, 266 00:12:58.120 --> 00:12:59.919 you can go back to the nineteen thirties. We saw 267 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.840 major floods in the Yanks River in China. At the 268 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:05.480 same time that we saw the Great Hurricane of thirty eight, 269 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:08.200 we also saw some of our worst flooding in history 270 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:10.240 was in nineteen thirty six. Of course, we had the 271 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:13.080 dust Bowl of the nineteen thirties. We had extreme heat 272 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.480 in the United State from the nineteen thirties. So you 273 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.360 can nail down these what we call multi decable cycles 274 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.919 that over in course of thirty or forty years, you 275 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.919 get more extreme weather, less extreme weather. More so we're 276 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:27.240 in a more extreme cycle. And then what you talked 277 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:29.200 about with the climate change just kind of raises the 278 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:31.639 base file a little bit more. I think the more 279 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:34.759 that we can get folks to understand the scientific processes 280 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:37.399 behind these things, the better. There's a lot of as 281 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.399 you know, information versus misinformation going on, and the fact 282 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:43.639 that we get it. It's incredible, the fact that we 283 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.559 can you know now that we're out in the digital sphere, 284 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:49.360 Gary right where it's kind of like unfiltered. And so 285 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:51.120 we were talking about one of the storms, the mid 286 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.759 Atlantic snowstorm that happened a couple of weeks ago and 287 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.159 we put the forecast out and it's a forecast for 288 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.399 eight to twelve inches of snow. You should have seen 289 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.200 some of the feedback we got about how the government's 290 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:03.200 causing this and you're in on it, and you know, 291 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:06.960 it's just because really as a general populace, we don't 292 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:10.440 have a full and complete understanding among the general populations 293 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:13.679 the scientific processes to drive this. So honestly, that's one 294 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:15.159 of the things that we really have set out to 295 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.200 do with one degree outside is we want to make 296 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:21.759 sure that everybody has access to understanding the science processes 297 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:26.799 that drive wildfires, snowstorms, hurricanes, et cetera, because that leads 298 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:28.639 it at least leads less to the imagination. 299 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:32.960 Danielle For New England, what is our biggest concern down 300 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:33.399 the road? 301 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:35.159 What should we be worried about? 302 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.639 I would say one hundred percent it would be for 303 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.919 a landfalling hurricane. I'm probably a major landfalling hurricane to 304 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.279 your points now a few minutes ago that we haven't 305 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.960 had one and so on. I think that we have 306 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:52.720 absolutely no you know, we can't even wrap our heads 307 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.480 around what type of damage we would see with a 308 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:57.000 Cat three or higher. 309 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:58.600 Landlawing hurricane here in New England. 310 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.360 So in meaning what you mean by that makes perfect sense. 311 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:04.639 We can't wrap our heads around it, as people right, 312 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:05.639 but science can't. 313 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:06.279 Science can. 314 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:09.320 But I just don't think that if you're right, general populist, 315 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.679 you know, then really knows what the damage would be 316 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.080 like because we haven't had we haven't had it. 317 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:18.519 And to put it in numbers, you take a major hurricane, 318 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:21.440 you bring it into into Buzzard's Bay. You will get 319 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.440 a twenty two foot wall of water. It will come 320 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.720 into Buzzard's Bay, the storm surge will raise the sea 321 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:31.320 level twenty two feet. When the storm makes landfall, there 322 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.720 will be entire portions of towns that will be wiped 323 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:36.080 off the map. Along the south coast of New England. 324 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.960 We get a landfall, major hurricane. And folks hear that say, 325 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:41.960 and I think it's easy to say that's hyperbole. No, 326 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:45.879 it's actually scientifically modeled. You know, it is what it is. 327 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.720 It happened in thirty eight, The same thing will happen again. 328 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:52.279 But we've built, you know, billions along our coastlines for 329 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.039 really really rich homes and all sorts of types of 330 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:58.240 buildings along the coast that really raises the risk. 331 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:01.559 Well, what about the erosion of the coast is that reality? 332 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:05.840 That's yes, that's a reality. It's now look to some extent, 333 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:09.960 erosion has been ongoing for centuries, right, it's what shaped 334 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:13.320 our coastline. But to the other extent, the reality, Danielle, 335 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:15.759 is that we've raised the sea level and that obviously 336 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:17.200 has an imagical erosion that. 337 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:18.399 Has a big impact, you know. 338 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.759 And with the stronger storms you get, you know, stronger 339 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:22.919 on shore wind, you get bigger waves, you get a 340 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.639 higher sea level, then that's all contributing to, you know, 341 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:26.759 to the coastal erosion. 342 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:29.360 Yeah, you gotta figure Gary. You know, we we call 343 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:31.639 the Blizzard of seventy eight our benchmark storm, and a 344 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:34.120 lot of folks will say we've never seen a snowstorm 345 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:36.360 as bad as seventy eight since then. Now, while that 346 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.600 is true, when you look at the whole package, we 347 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:43.000 have now bested the Blizzard of seventy eight storm total snow. 348 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:45.759 We have bested the blizzard of seventy eight to twenty 349 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.840 four hour snow. We have bested the blizzard of seventy 350 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:52.879 eighths coastal flood level. So we beat that by getting 351 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:55.080 a higher sea level in ours in one of our 352 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:59.279 big storms back at twenty eighteen. Right, So look, we're 353 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:03.559 doing it. We're surpassing all of these benchmarks, even if 354 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:05.680 they're just not all happening at once in the Daniel's 355 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:08.880 point earlier, they're better predicted now, so it's not one 356 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.599 of these things where it paralyzes the entire community and 357 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:14.359 leaves people strand on the highway. Because at least you see. 358 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.880 It coming, you're better prepared for it. Danielle, That's what 359 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:21.160 is there? What is the one thing we can do 360 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:27.880 to protect our environment? Because while I do like Adam 361 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:31.359 McKay has been very active in it, and there has 362 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.240 been a call to arms, you know, I still think 363 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:39.640 commercialization industry, the almighty dollar, and I understand it to 364 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:42.640 a point, is always going to take precedent over the environment. 365 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:46.559 What is the one thing we can do to protect it? 366 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:50.000 Because I do worry about the ozone lever or you know, 367 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:51.200 I worry about all of it. 368 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:57.519 I don't think it comes down to I don't think 369 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:00.359 it comes down to one thing, right, But doing you 370 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:04.319 asked the questions, I thought, you know, education, right, and 371 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:07.279 that's just understanding the science behind it. So you know 372 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:09.839 what's going on and then be able to make decisions 373 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:12.480 based on that and not and not be afraid and 374 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:14.799 not have that fear and move forward. You know, when 375 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:17.640 we go over to the schools and do enrichment programs. 376 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:19.640 Is one of the questions that I that I asked 377 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:21.359 the kids that I said, you know, this is climate 378 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:23.079 change and global warming, and I said, you know, let 379 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:24.599 me in throw that question to you, and you'd be 380 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:27.759 surprised that some of the incredible answers, honestly is that 381 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.480 these young, little young kids give me in terms of 382 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:33.160 you know, how to protect the environment and simple things 383 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:34.680 that we can do day to day. But you know, 384 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:36.839 when you add it all up, doesn't make a difference. 385 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:40.519 That is such a great answer. We're like science soulmates too, 386 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:42.880 you know, because no, seriously, because I was thinking the 387 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:46.519 exact same thing education, because the more that we can 388 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:49.400 get folks, I mean, we have dropped in stem education 389 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:52.279 in our country. We've gone from number one down about 390 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:55.240 number twenty four in the world. And so it's no 391 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:58.000 wonder that there's a lot of scientific things that we 392 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:00.640 as a populist kind of have trouble grasping. So I 393 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:06.079 think the more we can understand about what makes science pick. 394 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.519 The more the easier it will be to get folks 395 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:12.440 on board and part of the process to try and 396 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:13.880 make solutions and change. 397 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:16.039 So do you guys ever fight, like over high pressure 398 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:19.519 systems or like, you know, over I mean, does somebody 399 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:20.400 have a four camp? 400 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:22.519 I mean, there's this is a sitcom, it really is. 401 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:25.000