WEBVTT 1 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:26.440 Eden Blair my guest for the evening. If you want 2 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:28.719 to call or text her, you know exactly where you 3 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:31.719 can find her at. Eden Blair links to all of 4 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:35.240 our social media in the episode description below. Please make 5 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:37.240 sure you support the creators that come on this show, 6 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:39.240 otherwise they don't come on anymore. 7 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:40.359 It's quite simple. 8 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:42.960 If I tell them, hey, people will go to your 9 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:46.679 stuff and then no one fucking shows up. Zoop doesn't work. 10 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:50.039 Ladies and gentlemen, my guest tonight, Eden Blair. Eden, thank 11 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:51.200 you so much for coming on with me. 12 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:53.479 Of course, I'm very happy to be here. 13 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:56.719 You are the first guest I have talked to that 14 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:58.359 is currently in a bus. 15 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:03.840 Yes, I would. 16 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:05.560 I would like to get into that in a little 17 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:07.879 bit because I think we we we are along the 18 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:14.040 same mindset in some aspects perhaps. Okay, let me ask 19 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:17.480 you first question right off the bat, what do you consider, 20 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:21.439 with all that you do in life for revenue, what 21 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:23.560 do you consider your job title to be? 22 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:26.319 I'm an adult performer and creator. 23 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:29.599 Okay, all right, very fair, very fair, I like that one. 24 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:32.760 Can you talk me through how you initially got into 25 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:36.400 the adult entertainment industry. Let's clear out the history first. 26 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:39.200 And then we'll get into the now in the future. 27 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:44.680 Okay, Well, a little bit about my like overall background, 28 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:49.599 I've always been a little bit saucier and more open 29 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:51.840 with the way I address than a lot of people 30 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:55.319 my you know, my when I was in school and everything, 31 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:02.040 I moved out at nineteen, started working, and at some 32 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:07.920 point before I turned twenty one, I was a doorga 33 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:13.479 letta strip club. And then when I was I don't know, 34 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:19.159 twenty twenty two, I think, is I started dancing, and 35 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:21.520 then it's like in between there, I camned and did 36 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:25.199 a few things. I've modeled outright, like since I was 37 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:30.199 eighteen under my name, and did a lot with that, 38 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:32.800 did a lot of car magazines and car shows and things. 39 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:40.199 And then I always wondered about doing movies, and I 40 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:45.120 had just broken up with somebody, and then I also 41 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:50.599 had to leave school. I was going to be a 42 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:55.120 autobody tech, so I wanted to restore a classic cars. 43 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:57.120 I was top of my class, and then we started 44 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:02.000 working with polishing compound and it turned out I'm severely 45 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:05.159 allergic to one of the chemicals in it, and I 46 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:09.039 had to drop out of school when I was six 47 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:13.639 months from finishing so it kind of sucked. But I 48 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:20.199 saw this documentary and I actually got to the director, 49 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:21.639 and I'm trying to remember the name of it off 50 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.080 the top of my head right now, and I can't. 51 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:24.280 Also remember where you saw it. 52 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:28.240 Maybe I believe it was a documentary that was on 53 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:30.680 HBO at the time. This is in twenty fourteen, so 54 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:39.599 but yeah, it was something. And then it was a 55 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:41.560 h R rated look in an X rated industry or 56 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:44.520 something like that, and I got to meet the director, 57 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:50.680 I believe Gavin Something or Michael Something. But I saw 58 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:56.280 that and basically what that showed versus every other documentary 59 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:59.919 that I've ever seen was a positive look at the 60 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:03.039 industry and not just like attacking attacking. I got to 61 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.840 see fans, I got to see entourages, I got to, 62 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:08.520 you know, see more performers and kind of behind the 63 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.919 scenes of what the AVN show was, and that's where 64 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:14.599 they filmed that at and I was just like, I 65 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:20.160 can do that. And so in another documentary I had seen, 66 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:23.560 someone had mentioned like Latata and so that is a 67 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:27.680 Los Angeles group of talle agencies that are all licensed 68 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:32.040 for adult industry. So I looked that up. Had my 69 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:37.480 first full spread egal nuts taken by local photographer that 70 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:40.000 I knew I was in North Carolina at the time, 71 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:44.040 sent them to all ten of the agencies and got 72 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:47.920 a call. And then the next week I had all 73 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:51.279 my stuff loaded up and I drove myself alone for 74 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.639 four days across the United States to LA and three 75 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:56.439 days after I got there, I did my first scene 76 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:57.480 and the rest is history. 77 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:00.560 There is so many questions for me to ask with that. 78 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:03.399 Let's go back to the strip club. The initial thing 79 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:05.360 you did, you said to it was was it a. 80 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:07.439 Door girl bar? Okay, okay, yep? 81 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:10.279 Was it inevitable you were gonna get on that stage 82 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:12.639 or did you know I was gonna say, did you 83 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.519 see some girl hit one night and you're like, oh fuck? 84 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.920 Or was it like man, I gotta pay this bill? Maybe? 85 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:22.480 Like what was what was the transition then from that 86 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:23.759 to I? 87 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:29.720 I honestly it was just comfortable with it. I guess. 88 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:31.959 I like there was just a moment, like there was 89 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:33.600 times when I was like no, no, no, no, no, 90 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:38.480 that'll never you know, and then I just realized, like, 91 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:43.279 I'm comfortable with it, so I'm gonna do it, like 92 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.160 I believe, like for me, there was something with like 93 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:48.600 my upbringing maybe holding me back a little bit, and 94 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:53.120 like I always knew me down inside though that this 95 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:56.920 just fit me, like the sex industry world fit me, 96 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.839 and I was able to you know, work for myself, 97 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:04.120 my own money, control my time, and have a lot 98 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:06.720 more freedom. And so I think that that was part 99 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:10.639 of that draw. But also like I've always been comfortable 100 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:15.199 with my body, and so you know, I think it 101 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:16.439 became inevitable. 102 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.639 At one point. Sure, sure, so okay, all right. 103 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:21.600 I always wonder that if it's if it's a thing 104 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:23.319 where you were taking the job at the front and 105 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:26.279 you go, oh, man, I really I don't think I 106 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:28.360 could ever do that, and then a girl walks off 107 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.720 tells you that, I mean ten thousand dollars to night, 108 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.639 and you go, well, now I have to figure out 109 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:33.480 a way to do that. 110 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:35.319 Well, keep in mind, this is the way back in 111 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:39.560 two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, so that 112 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:45.319 was when I first started, And I mean a thousand 113 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:49.079 dollars was like crazy money per night, you know, and 114 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:53.439 like but you know, like people love like show big 115 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.800 money and big things and like and that's like possible 116 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:59.639 in certain areas in the world, you know, but for 117 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.040 all places, like especially the kind of clubs I personally 118 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:06.480 like to frequent. Because I'm a curveyer girl, I would 119 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:09.560 get declined from a lot of like the big shiny 120 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:13.800 gentlemen's clubs. Even when I lived in California and I 121 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:15.800 was looking for a club the dance in between shoots, 122 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:20.600 I still couldn't get into certain clubs just because of 123 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:22.680 my my body type and where my tattoos are placed. 124 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.720 It's it's really weird. So a lot of the clubs 125 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:28.680 I worked out were like these little divy little rock 126 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:32.160 bars and stuff, and you know, and and like band 127 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:37.199 Aids is a really famous club that I danced in Scottsdale, Arizona, 128 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:39.279 and I wanted, you know, wanted to work at Pantera 129 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:42.720 down the road, and Nope, wasn't skinny enough. They're they 130 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:45.879 They're like, go hit the gym for like thirty days 131 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.079 straight and then come back and audition again. Is what 132 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:48.560 they told me. 133 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:52.519 Whoa was that guy totally ripped in great shape and everything. 134 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:53.600 Did he look like me? 135 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:57.319 Yeah? Right? You know, like it always do. 136 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:57.399 Is. 137 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:00.519 I wish more women owned clubs because I feel like 138 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.519 they would probably make a lot more money and the 139 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:05.839 girls would be a lot happier, but we can get 140 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:12.600 into you know, extremely predatory club practices or maybe next 141 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:14.720 time of them on we'll talk about let me. 142 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:17.480 Ask you, how was your club experience actually working there? 143 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:21.079 I'll say this and we'll get into it, because maybe 144 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:22.000 this isn't the best. 145 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.240 Uh depends on the club, honestly. 146 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:25.240 Okay, all right. 147 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:28.199 I've been at really nice clubs that treated everyone like shit, 148 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.560 and I've been at really shitty clubs that treated lake family. 149 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:32.080 So okay, all right. 150 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:34.000 See, I was going to ask about the women only 151 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:37.799 because on Twitter today's a different case, and we'll maybe 152 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:39.799 talk about that. We won't mention names or anything. I'll 153 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:41.440 bring something up to you and just get your opinion 154 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:46.200 on it. But normally, when I see porn star Twitter, 155 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:48.919 I think, oh my god, these girls are going to 156 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:51.320 go at each other's throats, They're going to be get 157 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:52.879 you know, we got to get this, we got to 158 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:53.440 get the bag. 159 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:54.600 Whatever you would say if you. 160 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:58.240 Were a younger, you know, person not mels are like 161 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:02.399 that dance see, And that's the thing, those the pointsters 162 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:07.399 online are so supportive and like together, yeah yeah, yeah, 163 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:10.279 And but I've heard horror stories about dancers. 164 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:12.519 There's always going to be me and girls, there's always 165 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.120 going to be bad actors. Like it doesn't matter what 166 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:18.600 industry you're in, where you work, you know. Like I 167 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.399 think that's something important to say with what's also happening 168 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:25.080 right now, like in the world. And uh, like it's 169 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:28.519 the shame that everyone tries to put on everyone, and 170 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:30.720 I think that really like does eat up a lot 171 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:34.720 of people too, because like we get hatred like no 172 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:38.679 one else. Like it's it's crazy, but everyone forgets. We 173 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:40.399 all sell our bodies. Some of us just choose to 174 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:47.279 charge up front, so you know, So it's it's incredible, 175 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:49.720 like I you know, I I've seen some really really 176 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:55.879 really catty people, and I've seen some of the most incredible, intelligent, 177 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:59.639 hard working, caring people I've ever met in my entire life. 178 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:01.360 And and that says a lot because I've lived a 179 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.080 lot of places, you know, and so the industry, for 180 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:08.679 the most part, is just a collection of really really 181 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:11.840 good people who are just a little bit different, you know, 182 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:12.720 than they find you. 183 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:15.559 All right, let me test my memory. When you were 184 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:18.000 saying you wanted to work in autobody repair, my first 185 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.799 thought was she would be the hottest person that's ever 186 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.559 worked in autobody repair, right, But then I thought about, 187 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:26.720 you know, what you could have definitely done if you 188 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:27.320 got into that. 189 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:29.360 I could see you as like. 190 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.320 The woman on one of those teams on like a 191 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:35.360 TLC show or a History Channel show where they're like 192 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:37.519 fixing up an old car and they're like, let's check 193 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:39.720 with Eden what she thinks about the bodywork on this. 194 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:43.440 Yeah, that was also something that I always thought would 195 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:47.120 be really cool. Yeah, but I, like I said, when 196 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:53.799 I modeled, my entrance into that at eighteen, was some 197 00:10:54.879 --> 00:11:02.720 non nude men's magazine stuff and car magazines and car shows. 198 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.240 And I've always been like, I've always loved car shows anyway, 199 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:09.440 but I started getting like offers to come and work 200 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:11.799 the shows as a model at the shows and do 201 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:14.960 all that stuff. And so I really got to see 202 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:18.159 and appreciate like a lot of really beautiful cars with 203 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.360 really extraordinary work done to them. And I wanted to 204 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:23.639 be able to do that, Like that was what I 205 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:25.240 wanted to do, you know. So, and I had two 206 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:27.559 shops that wanted to hire me straight out straight out 207 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:30.080 of school already, like before I even finished. 208 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:34.279 But you know, if I come in your shop and 209 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.720 breathe the fumes, I'll die. So I actually can't accept 210 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:37.159 this job. 211 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:37.600 Thank you. 212 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:40.279 Yeah, I got I was getting like hives everywhere. It 213 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:40.799 was horrible. 214 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:43.840 You pointed out your tattoos. 215 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:47.240 Now my wife has about fourteen and she just got 216 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:50.960 some cash, so she's gonna add about ten more. I 217 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:54.960 personally love your tattoo. What would you call that above 218 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:55.759 your waist on your. 219 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.440 Stomach a waist tattoo? 220 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:03.639 Okay, let me ask do you look okay? You said 221 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.159 it may have not cost you opportunities or did it 222 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:07.600 cost you opportunities early on? 223 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:08.399 Is that fair to say? 224 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:08.759 Oh? 225 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:13.919 No, absolutely cost it constantly up to the day I 226 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.720 moved out of Cali. So it's some companies just prefer 227 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:23.519 no tattoos. Some companies, we'll let it slide. I almost 228 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:26.000 didn't work for Hustler. There was like a showdown in 229 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:27.000 the Hustler office. 230 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:30.960 Hustler really Larry Flint's Hustler. 231 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.360 Yeah. Like so when I did my first first scene 232 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:37.519 for Hustler, there were two men that worked in the office. 233 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:42.039 One of them saw me at my second ex BIS 234 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:45.600 Awards red carpet where I did not come to play. Okay, 235 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.039 I wore like at my hair, like I had stopped 236 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.960 dyeing my hair black, so it was red. I had 237 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.159 a blue dress that was just solid sequence that went 238 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:55.320 all the way to the floor, and I looked like 239 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:57.519 a fucking mermaid. And I had big old stripper hills 240 00:12:57.519 --> 00:12:59.240 on with it because it was so long I could 241 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:01.759 I had to, so I was super tall. And so 242 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.960 he noticed me like all the way across the room 243 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:10.399 at the red carpet area and came over, said hi 244 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:12.720 to me, told him who my agent was, and then 245 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:17.480 like a week later went in for a go see 246 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:22.080 with some other girls. And then three days after that 247 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.000 I got the call that I got booking. And then 248 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:30.200 the guy that I had run into was one of 249 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:35.240 their marketing directors or whatever, but he was the guy 250 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.440 that booked all the girls, him and two others, and 251 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:42.360 he told me that they got like into it over 252 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:45.919 my tattoos because they didn't want they didn't like, like 253 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:47.679 two of them really really didn't like them. And he 254 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:49.240 was like, give this girl a shot. This is like 255 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:52.480 my first year in right, So this is yeah, I'd 256 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:55.279 been in for one year, second second expiz because my 257 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:58.159 first X biz was like the week I got to LA, 258 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:02.120 so it was I have picked sure that I look horrible. 259 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:06.080 But but yeah, so they got into it. He really 260 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:09.000 really like advocated for me because he thought I would 261 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.519 sell well, and so they decided to give me a 262 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.200 shot and then had multiple scenes with them after that. 263 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:19.080 So and been in a couple of other magazines and stuff. 264 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:20.840 So it's been it's been great. Never been a cover, 265 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:23.960 but you know, had full spread going on in there, 266 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:25.480 so it works out. 267 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:28.159 So do you do you regret them now or no? 268 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:30.600 That no, no, no. 269 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:34.519 All of my tattoos have a philosophical meaning to me, 270 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:37.120 and I got them at certain points in my life 271 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:40.320 to represent that point in my life. So I would 272 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:43.000 never regret a tattoo. And besides, like a regrets just 273 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.039 a lesson that you don't learn something from, gotcha, you know, 274 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:49.919 So like I don't have regrets. I have lessons that 275 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:52.919 I learned from and they can only turn into a 276 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.039 regret if you duplicate that, right. 277 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:01.960 So I interviewed Stephanie Love, who's very tech, very tattooed performer, 278 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:04.919 and at the end, I asked, what's a thing of 279 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:07.360 advice she would give to a younger woman looking to 280 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:10.000 get into this industry, you know, in her twenties or whatever, 281 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:13.639 and she's trying to find something to do and she screamed. Now, 282 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:15.919 Stephanie screams at everything. So I love her for that, Like, 283 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:18.919 don't get me wrong, but she screamed at me, no, 284 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:21.639 don't get tattoos, don't ever get tattooed. And now she's 285 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:25.799 getting removed. It seems like, well, look, everyone's personal preference. 286 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:28.480 I totally get that. I just don't understand why in 287 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:33.799 twenty twenty five they come down so hard on like tattoos. 288 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:37.559 I thought people like tattoos. I thought people love tattoos 289 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:39.120 or is it ebbing and flowing? 290 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:43.240 So that's like there's another like sub factor that I've 291 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:45.759 noticed with the industry when it comes to tattooed models. 292 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:51.960 It we'll get to that, but but yeah, predominantly you'll 293 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:56.240 get like a couple of heavily tattooed performers that are 294 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:01.840 doing like a wide variety of scenes. But those girls 295 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:05.519 are extremely rare, right, Like Christy Mack is a prime 296 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:07.320 example of one of those, right. 297 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:08.799 Or Bonnie Rotten. 298 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:13.039 Bonnie Rotten is another example, right, So, but there aren't 299 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:20.320 many that get pushed out past like just doing taboo 300 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:25.679 tattooed only like Kink and like those kinds of things, right, 301 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:29.639 So that's it's hard life say say things with that. 302 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:32.279 But like, but they tend to do like they're working 303 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:35.200 for like Burning Angel for example, right, Like they're in 304 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:39.480 a very specific niche, right, And even those performers, Like 305 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:43.720 if I was a heavily tattooed performer and I had 306 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:49.279 the restrictions on my scenes that I have, I probably 307 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:53.799 wouldn't get any work or very very very rarely would 308 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:56.480 get work. I already didn't get a lot of work 309 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.360 that I could have gotten because I have restrictions for 310 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.879 my like my scenes obviously, right, So like I don't 311 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:08.720 do anal for instance, right, So like a bunch of scenes, 312 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.880 especially for me being a very wide hipped, very curby girl, 313 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.640 Like my agents were constantly trying to like get me 314 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:20.559 to do it, and I tried one, didn't didn't go. 315 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:20.880 Well. 316 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:23.319 I was like, Okay, that's it. I'm not not gonna 317 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:25.400 put my body through that, Like that's it's not for me, right, 318 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:29.240 So you know. So, but it's like, but when you 319 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:30.920 look at tattooed models, like a lot of times they're 320 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:37.599 doing like really really rough scenes and it almost like 321 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:39.240 a lot of times they get pigeonholed into that, and 322 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:41.039 then you do get tattoo miles that like break out 323 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.079 like Cleo Valentine is a really good example. That's done 324 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:45.279 a lot of like Wicked movies and Adam and even 325 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.480 stuff right, and they get a chance to do like 326 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:52.240 the romance scenes and stuff. But it's very rare for 327 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:55.079 them to like get that get those opportunities without being 328 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:58.119 like a really really big name at some point. 329 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:01.519 So what is your opinion on why that is? Is 330 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.599 it like an old Guard is still. 331 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:06.480 Runnings, it's just sales like right now, like the industry 332 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:09.880 has transitioned into from what I've been hearing where they 333 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:17.640 are evaluating porn hub subscribers, they're evaluating all your social 334 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:21.240 media subscribers, and they won't Some companies won't hire someone 335 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:24.640 if they don't have over a certain amount, right, which 336 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:27.839 is unfortunate because if that would have been the case, 337 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:29.920 because Twitter was around when I joined in twenty fourteen, 338 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:32.359 Instagram was around, like all of those things. If that 339 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:35.160 would have been the case when I first got in 340 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:39.599 the industry, I didn't have a Twitter account like at all. 341 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:41.680 I didn't have a porn aub account like I of 342 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.720 course not like why would I write if that was 343 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:50.079 the case. Now there's possibility that there were, there are 344 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:52.960 a lot of opportunities I would have never gotten, right, 345 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.720 And so I really don't think that's right, And I 346 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:59.119 don't like especially with us getting consistently banned and shadow 347 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:02.200 band and our accounts getting taken down and like all, 348 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:03.920 I feel like it's not something you can really show 349 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:08.079 value with, like as much as you know they maybe 350 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:09.720 think they can, right, which is how a lot of 351 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:11.599 like OnlyFans casting is done is they're like, oh, what 352 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.720 is your subscriber account? Like all that, But there are 353 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:17.559 professional companies that do the same thing. But when I 354 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:20.960 was in it was traditional gossies going to the head 355 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:25.319 of the casting getting naked, letting them take a few 356 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:29.279 pictures and seeing if you get a call like that's. 357 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:34.240 Right, right, yeah, Like yeah, that's crazy. I mean part 358 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:36.200 of me understands it, right, Like they're. 359 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:38.960 Not not in what the world works. Now I get it, 360 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:41.640 but it's still because I'm like, I feel like there's 361 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:48.359 probably someone who's just starting out who doesn't have that, 362 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:50.480 who maybe doesn't get those opportunities. But at the end 363 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:54.480 of the day, also any new performer who's brands spank 364 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:58.240 and new that gets pushed out by the agents, and 365 00:19:58.279 --> 00:20:00.519 so they'll get a whole bunch of book and then 366 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:06.480 if they're you know, good for the company, or they're 367 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:10.440 at you know, an adequate performer, and it doesn't shock 368 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:17.160 them or like make them want to leave, they'll get 369 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.200 more bookies and they'll be able to stay in the industry. 370 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:21.279 I think that's part of it too, is like it's 371 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:25.680 to have like an extended career. It is difficult. 372 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:29.839 I do a New Girl interview show too, and I 373 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:33.720 get people on who I always try and look for 374 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:35.680 people who are going to make this a career, right. 375 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:38.240 I don't necessarily want to have an interview with you 376 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:40.319 here if you're going to ask me to pull it 377 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:42.839 six months from now. Not that I won't, I just don't. 378 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:45.319 I just don't want to have to go back and forth. 379 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:46.119 I'll put it. 380 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:49.519 Out months, you know, so it's under a year. 381 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:53.559 Sure, But to me it seems like, yeah, I when 382 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:55.119 I talk to them, a lot of them get started 383 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:57.799 in camming and they hit you with that new title 384 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:00.440 on the cam sites, right, and I see the girls 385 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.880 with five thousand, six thousand, seven thousand people sometimes and 386 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.079 then I always ask them, I go, did it eventually 387 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:08.839 fall off? Like as you were still camming more? And 388 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:11.640 they're like, yeah, So it sounds like it's almost that 389 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:13.559 thing where you get that bump at the beginning. Oh 390 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:16.119 I've never seen Eden Blair before. Ooh, let's have her on. 391 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:18.640 Oh God, let's put her in four or five six scenes. 392 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:21.960 And if she pops and the social media follows along 393 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:23.880 with it and people want to see her and there's 394 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:26.640 good comments and everything else, that's great. And if not, 395 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:29.599 we'll back out to the wilderness. She'll find something to do. 396 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.839 That's a really kind of scary way of doing like 397 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:36.559 I have. I'm coming at this, by the way, Sorry, 398 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:38.200 if I throw my hands at the screen a lot, 399 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:41.839 that's what I do. If I'm not even Italian. But 400 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:43.480 I still talk with my hands all the time. 401 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:47.880