Speaker 1: Eden Blair my guest for the evening. If you want
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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, my guest tonight, Eden Blair. Eden, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on with me.
Speaker 3: Of course, I'm very happy to be here.
Speaker 1: You are the first guest I have talked to that
Speaker 1: is currently in a bus.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would.
Speaker 1: I would like to get into that in a little
Speaker 1: bit because I think we we we are along the
Speaker 1: same mindset in some aspects perhaps. Okay, let me ask
Speaker 1: you first question right off the bat, what do you consider,
Speaker 1: with all that you do in life for revenue, what
Speaker 1: do you consider your job title to be?
Speaker 3: I'm an adult performer and creator.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, very fair, very fair, I like that one.
Speaker 1: Can you talk me through how you initially got into
Speaker 1: the adult entertainment industry. Let's clear out the history first.
Speaker 1: And then we'll get into the now in the future.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, a little bit about my like overall background,
Speaker 3: I've always been a little bit saucier and more open
Speaker 3: with the way I address than a lot of people
Speaker 3: my you know, my when I was in school and everything,
Speaker 3: I moved out at nineteen, started working, and at some
Speaker 3: point before I turned twenty one, I was a doorga
Speaker 3: letta strip club. And then when I was I don't know,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, I think, is I started dancing, and
Speaker 3: then it's like in between there, I camned and did
Speaker 3: a few things. I've modeled outright, like since I was
Speaker 3: eighteen under my name, and did a lot with that,
Speaker 3: did a lot of car magazines and car shows and things.
Speaker 3: And then I always wondered about doing movies, and I
Speaker 3: had just broken up with somebody, and then I also
Speaker 3: had to leave school. I was going to be a
Speaker 3: autobody tech, so I wanted to restore a classic cars.
Speaker 3: I was top of my class, and then we started
Speaker 3: working with polishing compound and it turned out I'm severely
Speaker 3: allergic to one of the chemicals in it, and I
Speaker 3: had to drop out of school when I was six
Speaker 3: months from finishing so it kind of sucked. But I
Speaker 3: saw this documentary and I actually got to the director,
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to remember the name of it off
Speaker 3: the top of my head right now, and I can't.
Speaker 2: Also remember where you saw it.
Speaker 3: Maybe I believe it was a documentary that was on
Speaker 3: HBO at the time. This is in twenty fourteen, so
Speaker 3: but yeah, it was something. And then it was a
Speaker 3: h R rated look in an X rated industry or
Speaker 3: something like that, and I got to meet the director,
Speaker 3: I believe Gavin Something or Michael Something. But I saw
Speaker 3: that and basically what that showed versus every other documentary
Speaker 3: that I've ever seen was a positive look at the
Speaker 3: industry and not just like attacking attacking. I got to
Speaker 3: see fans, I got to see entourages, I got to,
Speaker 3: you know, see more performers and kind of behind the
Speaker 3: scenes of what the AVN show was, and that's where
Speaker 3: they filmed that at and I was just like, I
Speaker 3: can do that. And so in another documentary I had seen,
Speaker 3: someone had mentioned like Latata and so that is a
Speaker 3: Los Angeles group of talle agencies that are all licensed
Speaker 3: for adult industry. So I looked that up. Had my
Speaker 3: first full spread egal nuts taken by local photographer that
Speaker 3: I knew I was in North Carolina at the time,
Speaker 3: sent them to all ten of the agencies and got
Speaker 3: a call. And then the next week I had all
Speaker 3: my stuff loaded up and I drove myself alone for
Speaker 3: four days across the United States to LA and three
Speaker 3: days after I got there, I did my first scene
Speaker 3: and the rest is history.
Speaker 1: There is so many questions for me to ask with that.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the strip club. The initial thing
Speaker 1: you did, you said to it was was it a.
Speaker 2: Door girl bar? Okay, okay, yep?
Speaker 1: Was it inevitable you were gonna get on that stage
Speaker 1: or did you know I was gonna say, did you
Speaker 1: see some girl hit one night and you're like, oh fuck?
Speaker 2: Or was it like man, I gotta pay this bill? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Like what was what was the transition then from that
Speaker 2: to I?
Speaker 3: I honestly it was just comfortable with it. I guess.
Speaker 3: I like there was just a moment, like there was
Speaker 3: times when I was like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: that'll never you know, and then I just realized, like,
Speaker 3: I'm comfortable with it, so I'm gonna do it, like
Speaker 3: I believe, like for me, there was something with like
Speaker 3: my upbringing maybe holding me back a little bit, and
Speaker 3: like I always knew me down inside though that this
Speaker 3: just fit me, like the sex industry world fit me,
Speaker 3: and I was able to you know, work for myself,
Speaker 3: my own money, control my time, and have a lot
Speaker 3: more freedom. And so I think that that was part
Speaker 3: of that draw. But also like I've always been comfortable
Speaker 3: with my body, and so you know, I think it
Speaker 3: became inevitable.
Speaker 2: At one point. Sure, sure, so okay, all right.
Speaker 1: I always wonder that if it's if it's a thing
Speaker 1: where you were taking the job at the front and
Speaker 1: you go, oh, man, I really I don't think I
Speaker 1: could ever do that, and then a girl walks off
Speaker 1: tells you that, I mean ten thousand dollars to night,
Speaker 1: and you go, well, now I have to figure out
Speaker 1: a way to do that.
Speaker 3: Well, keep in mind, this is the way back in
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, so that
Speaker 3: was when I first started, And I mean a thousand
Speaker 3: dollars was like crazy money per night, you know, and
Speaker 3: like but you know, like people love like show big
Speaker 3: money and big things and like and that's like possible
Speaker 3: in certain areas in the world, you know, but for
Speaker 3: all places, like especially the kind of clubs I personally
Speaker 3: like to frequent. Because I'm a curveyer girl, I would
Speaker 3: get declined from a lot of like the big shiny
Speaker 3: gentlemen's clubs. Even when I lived in California and I
Speaker 3: was looking for a club the dance in between shoots,
Speaker 3: I still couldn't get into certain clubs just because of
Speaker 3: my my body type and where my tattoos are placed.
Speaker 3: It's it's really weird. So a lot of the clubs
Speaker 3: I worked out were like these little divy little rock
Speaker 3: bars and stuff, and you know, and and like band
Speaker 3: Aids is a really famous club that I danced in Scottsdale, Arizona,
Speaker 3: and I wanted, you know, wanted to work at Pantera
Speaker 3: down the road, and Nope, wasn't skinny enough. They're they
Speaker 3: They're like, go hit the gym for like thirty days
Speaker 3: straight and then come back and audition again. Is what
Speaker 3: they told me.
Speaker 1: Whoa was that guy totally ripped in great shape and everything.
Speaker 2: Did he look like me?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right? You know, like it always do.
Speaker 1: Is.
Speaker 3: I wish more women owned clubs because I feel like
Speaker 3: they would probably make a lot more money and the
Speaker 3: girls would be a lot happier, but we can get
Speaker 3: into you know, extremely predatory club practices or maybe next
Speaker 3: time of them on we'll talk about let me.
Speaker 1: Ask you, how was your club experience actually working there?
Speaker 1: I'll say this and we'll get into it, because maybe
Speaker 1: this isn't the best.
Speaker 3: Uh depends on the club, honestly.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: I've been at really nice clubs that treated everyone like shit,
Speaker 3: and I've been at really shitty clubs that treated lake family.
Speaker 2: So okay, all right.
Speaker 1: See, I was going to ask about the women only
Speaker 1: because on Twitter today's a different case, and we'll maybe
Speaker 1: talk about that. We won't mention names or anything. I'll
Speaker 1: bring something up to you and just get your opinion
Speaker 1: on it. But normally, when I see porn star Twitter,
Speaker 1: I think, oh my god, these girls are going to
Speaker 1: go at each other's throats, They're going to be get
Speaker 1: you know, we got to get this, we got to
Speaker 1: get the bag.
Speaker 2: Whatever you would say if you.
Speaker 1: Were a younger, you know, person not mels are like
Speaker 1: that dance see, And that's the thing, those the pointsters
Speaker 1: online are so supportive and like together, yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And but I've heard horror stories about dancers.
Speaker 3: There's always going to be me and girls, there's always
Speaker 3: going to be bad actors. Like it doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: industry you're in, where you work, you know. Like I
Speaker 3: think that's something important to say with what's also happening
Speaker 3: right now, like in the world. And uh, like it's
Speaker 3: the shame that everyone tries to put on everyone, and
Speaker 3: I think that really like does eat up a lot
Speaker 3: of people too, because like we get hatred like no
Speaker 3: one else. Like it's it's crazy, but everyone forgets. We
Speaker 3: all sell our bodies. Some of us just choose to
Speaker 3: charge up front, so you know, So it's it's incredible,
Speaker 3: like I you know, I I've seen some really really
Speaker 3: really catty people, and I've seen some of the most incredible, intelligent,
Speaker 3: hard working, caring people I've ever met in my entire life.
Speaker 3: And and that says a lot because I've lived a
Speaker 3: lot of places, you know, and so the industry, for
Speaker 3: the most part, is just a collection of really really
Speaker 3: good people who are just a little bit different, you know,
Speaker 3: than they find you.
Speaker 1: All right, let me test my memory. When you were
Speaker 1: saying you wanted to work in autobody repair, my first
Speaker 1: thought was she would be the hottest person that's ever
Speaker 1: worked in autobody repair, right, But then I thought about,
Speaker 1: you know, what you could have definitely done if you
Speaker 1: got into that.
Speaker 2: I could see you as like.
Speaker 1: The woman on one of those teams on like a
Speaker 1: TLC show or a History Channel show where they're like
Speaker 1: fixing up an old car and they're like, let's check
Speaker 1: with Eden what she thinks about the bodywork on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was also something that I always thought would
Speaker 3: be really cool. Yeah, but I, like I said, when
Speaker 3: I modeled, my entrance into that at eighteen, was some
Speaker 3: non nude men's magazine stuff and car magazines and car shows.
Speaker 3: And I've always been like, I've always loved car shows anyway,
Speaker 3: but I started getting like offers to come and work
Speaker 3: the shows as a model at the shows and do
Speaker 3: all that stuff. And so I really got to see
Speaker 3: and appreciate like a lot of really beautiful cars with
Speaker 3: really extraordinary work done to them. And I wanted to
Speaker 3: be able to do that, Like that was what I
Speaker 3: wanted to do, you know. So, and I had two
Speaker 3: shops that wanted to hire me straight out straight out
Speaker 3: of school already, like before I even finished.
Speaker 1: But you know, if I come in your shop and
Speaker 1: breathe the fumes, I'll die. So I actually can't accept
Speaker 1: this job.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I was getting like hives everywhere. It
Speaker 3: was horrible.
Speaker 2: You pointed out your tattoos.
Speaker 1: Now my wife has about fourteen and she just got
Speaker 1: some cash, so she's gonna add about ten more. I
Speaker 1: personally love your tattoo. What would you call that above
Speaker 1: your waist on your.
Speaker 3: Stomach a waist tattoo?
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask do you look okay? You said
Speaker 1: it may have not cost you opportunities or did it
Speaker 1: cost you opportunities early on?
Speaker 2: Is that fair to say?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: No, absolutely cost it constantly up to the day I
Speaker 3: moved out of Cali. So it's some companies just prefer
Speaker 3: no tattoos. Some companies, we'll let it slide. I almost
Speaker 3: didn't work for Hustler. There was like a showdown in
Speaker 3: the Hustler office.
Speaker 2: Hustler really Larry Flint's Hustler.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like so when I did my first first scene
Speaker 3: for Hustler, there were two men that worked in the office.
Speaker 3: One of them saw me at my second ex BIS
Speaker 3: Awards red carpet where I did not come to play. Okay,
Speaker 3: I wore like at my hair, like I had stopped
Speaker 3: dyeing my hair black, so it was red. I had
Speaker 3: a blue dress that was just solid sequence that went
Speaker 3: all the way to the floor, and I looked like
Speaker 3: a fucking mermaid. And I had big old stripper hills
Speaker 3: on with it because it was so long I could
Speaker 3: I had to, so I was super tall. And so
Speaker 3: he noticed me like all the way across the room
Speaker 3: at the red carpet area and came over, said hi
Speaker 3: to me, told him who my agent was, and then
Speaker 3: like a week later went in for a go see
Speaker 3: with some other girls. And then three days after that
Speaker 3: I got the call that I got booking. And then
Speaker 3: the guy that I had run into was one of
Speaker 3: their marketing directors or whatever, but he was the guy
Speaker 3: that booked all the girls, him and two others, and
Speaker 3: he told me that they got like into it over
Speaker 3: my tattoos because they didn't want they didn't like, like
Speaker 3: two of them really really didn't like them. And he
Speaker 3: was like, give this girl a shot. This is like
Speaker 3: my first year in right, So this is yeah, I'd
Speaker 3: been in for one year, second second expiz because my
Speaker 3: first X biz was like the week I got to LA,
Speaker 3: so it was I have picked sure that I look horrible.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, so they got into it. He really
Speaker 3: really like advocated for me because he thought I would
Speaker 3: sell well, and so they decided to give me a
Speaker 3: shot and then had multiple scenes with them after that.
Speaker 3: So and been in a couple of other magazines and stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's been it's been great. Never been a cover,
Speaker 3: but you know, had full spread going on in there,
Speaker 3: so it works out.
Speaker 2: So do you do you regret them now or no?
Speaker 2: That no, no, no.
Speaker 3: All of my tattoos have a philosophical meaning to me,
Speaker 3: and I got them at certain points in my life
Speaker 3: to represent that point in my life. So I would
Speaker 3: never regret a tattoo. And besides, like a regrets just
Speaker 3: a lesson that you don't learn something from, gotcha, you know,
Speaker 3: So like I don't have regrets. I have lessons that
Speaker 3: I learned from and they can only turn into a
Speaker 3: regret if you duplicate that, right.
Speaker 1: So I interviewed Stephanie Love, who's very tech, very tattooed performer,
Speaker 1: and at the end, I asked, what's a thing of
Speaker 1: advice she would give to a younger woman looking to
Speaker 1: get into this industry, you know, in her twenties or whatever,
Speaker 1: and she's trying to find something to do and she screamed. Now,
Speaker 1: Stephanie screams at everything. So I love her for that, Like,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but she screamed at me, no,
Speaker 1: don't get tattoos, don't ever get tattooed. And now she's
Speaker 1: getting removed. It seems like, well, look, everyone's personal preference.
Speaker 1: I totally get that. I just don't understand why in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five they come down so hard on like tattoos.
Speaker 1: I thought people like tattoos. I thought people love tattoos
Speaker 1: or is it ebbing and flowing?
Speaker 3: So that's like there's another like sub factor that I've
Speaker 3: noticed with the industry when it comes to tattooed models.
Speaker 3: It we'll get to that, but but yeah, predominantly you'll
Speaker 3: get like a couple of heavily tattooed performers that are
Speaker 3: doing like a wide variety of scenes. But those girls
Speaker 3: are extremely rare, right, Like Christy Mack is a prime
Speaker 3: example of one of those, right.
Speaker 2: Or Bonnie Rotten.
Speaker 3: Bonnie Rotten is another example, right, So, but there aren't
Speaker 3: many that get pushed out past like just doing taboo
Speaker 3: tattooed only like Kink and like those kinds of things, right,
Speaker 3: So that's it's hard life say say things with that.
Speaker 3: But like, but they tend to do like they're working
Speaker 3: for like Burning Angel for example, right, Like they're in
Speaker 3: a very specific niche, right, And even those performers, Like
Speaker 3: if I was a heavily tattooed performer and I had
Speaker 3: the restrictions on my scenes that I have, I probably
Speaker 3: wouldn't get any work or very very very rarely would
Speaker 3: get work. I already didn't get a lot of work
Speaker 3: that I could have gotten because I have restrictions for
Speaker 3: my like my scenes obviously, right, So like I don't
Speaker 3: do anal for instance, right, So like a bunch of scenes,
Speaker 3: especially for me being a very wide hipped, very curby girl,
Speaker 3: Like my agents were constantly trying to like get me
Speaker 3: to do it, and I tried one, didn't didn't go.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, that's it. I'm not not gonna
Speaker 3: put my body through that, Like that's it's not for me, right,
Speaker 3: So you know. So, but it's like, but when you
Speaker 3: look at tattooed models, like a lot of times they're
Speaker 3: doing like really really rough scenes and it almost like
Speaker 3: a lot of times they get pigeonholed into that, and
Speaker 3: then you do get tattoo miles that like break out
Speaker 3: like Cleo Valentine is a really good example. That's done
Speaker 3: a lot of like Wicked movies and Adam and even
Speaker 3: stuff right, and they get a chance to do like
Speaker 3: the romance scenes and stuff. But it's very rare for
Speaker 3: them to like get that get those opportunities without being
Speaker 3: like a really really big name at some point.
Speaker 1: So what is your opinion on why that is? Is
Speaker 1: it like an old Guard is still.
Speaker 3: Runnings, it's just sales like right now, like the industry
Speaker 3: has transitioned into from what I've been hearing where they
Speaker 3: are evaluating porn hub subscribers, they're evaluating all your social
Speaker 3: media subscribers, and they won't Some companies won't hire someone
Speaker 3: if they don't have over a certain amount, right, which
Speaker 3: is unfortunate because if that would have been the case,
Speaker 3: because Twitter was around when I joined in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 3: Instagram was around, like all of those things. If that
Speaker 3: would have been the case when I first got in
Speaker 3: the industry, I didn't have a Twitter account like at all.
Speaker 3: I didn't have a porn aub account like I of
Speaker 3: course not like why would I write if that was
Speaker 3: the case. Now there's possibility that there were, there are
Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities I would have never gotten, right,
Speaker 3: And so I really don't think that's right, And I
Speaker 3: don't like especially with us getting consistently banned and shadow
Speaker 3: band and our accounts getting taken down and like all,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's not something you can really show
Speaker 3: value with, like as much as you know they maybe
Speaker 3: think they can, right, which is how a lot of
Speaker 3: like OnlyFans casting is done is they're like, oh, what
Speaker 3: is your subscriber account? Like all that, But there are
Speaker 3: professional companies that do the same thing. But when I
Speaker 3: was in it was traditional gossies going to the head
Speaker 3: of the casting getting naked, letting them take a few
Speaker 3: pictures and seeing if you get a call like that's.
Speaker 1: Right, right, yeah, Like yeah, that's crazy. I mean part
Speaker 1: of me understands it, right, Like they're.
Speaker 3: Not not in what the world works. Now I get it,
Speaker 3: but it's still because I'm like, I feel like there's
Speaker 3: probably someone who's just starting out who doesn't have that,
Speaker 3: who maybe doesn't get those opportunities. But at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, also any new performer who's brands spank
Speaker 3: and new that gets pushed out by the agents, and
Speaker 3: so they'll get a whole bunch of book and then
Speaker 3: if they're you know, good for the company, or they're
Speaker 3: at you know, an adequate performer, and it doesn't shock
Speaker 3: them or like make them want to leave, they'll get
Speaker 3: more bookies and they'll be able to stay in the industry.
Speaker 3: I think that's part of it too, is like it's
Speaker 3: to have like an extended career. It is difficult.
Speaker 1: I do a New Girl interview show too, and I
Speaker 1: get people on who I always try and look for
Speaker 1: people who are going to make this a career, right.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want to have an interview with you
Speaker 1: here if you're going to ask me to pull it
Speaker 1: six months from now. Not that I won't, I just don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to have to go back and forth.
Speaker 2: I'll put it.
Speaker 3: Out months, you know, so it's under a year.
Speaker 1: Sure, But to me it seems like, yeah, I when
Speaker 1: I talk to them, a lot of them get started
Speaker 1: in camming and they hit you with that new title
Speaker 1: on the cam sites, right, and I see the girls
Speaker 1: with five thousand, six thousand, seven thousand people sometimes and
Speaker 1: then I always ask them, I go, did it eventually
Speaker 1: fall off? Like as you were still camming more? And
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, So it sounds like it's almost that
Speaker 1: thing where you get that bump at the beginning. Oh
Speaker 1: I've never seen Eden Blair before. Ooh, let's have her on.
Speaker 1: Oh God, let's put her in four or five six scenes.
Speaker 1: And if she pops and the social media follows along
Speaker 1: with it and people want to see her and there's
Speaker 1: good comments and everything else, that's great. And if not,
Speaker 1: we'll back out to the wilderness. She'll find something to do.
Speaker 1: That's a really kind of scary way of doing like
Speaker 1: I have. I'm coming at this, by the way, Sorry,
Speaker 1: if I throw my hands at the screen a lot,
Speaker 1: that's what I do. If I'm not even Italian. But
Speaker 1: I still talk with my hands all the time.
Speaker 2: So there's that. Uh.
Speaker 1: It seems like I would come into this if I
Speaker 1: had no knowledge of the industry, right, I would think,
Speaker 1: here's my job. I'm a hot girl. I'm gonna show
Speaker 1: up on set, I'm gonna have sex for a little while.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna collect my giant paycheck at the end and
Speaker 1: go home and not have to do anything else. Right,
Speaker 1: did you realize or I guess if you started that.
Speaker 3: Work was gonna entail you did. But like, yeah, but
Speaker 3: that is the dream that's sold, right, And it's like
Speaker 3: number one generally unless you're like the performer of the year,
Speaker 3: Like you're getting average rate, right, Like that's for a
Speaker 3: boy girl eight hundred to one thousand dollars. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's so that's the thing, right, And as a performer,
Speaker 3: like let's just say, like you're someone like me, like
Speaker 3: I'm an average height, average build, few tattoos, still pretty
Speaker 3: don't have my tits done, you know. And I was
Speaker 3: twenty four when I got in, right, Like you look
Speaker 3: at that and it's like you have to have something else, sure,
Speaker 3: you know, like it's for me. It was that battle
Speaker 3: because it's like, oh, you know, they really they really
Speaker 3: love like little tiny girls and they like or they
Speaker 3: like curber women to have like bigger, bigger, bigger, fuller, fuller,
Speaker 3: like big fake you know that kind of thing, or
Speaker 3: you're a BBW. I felt like too far in the middle, sure, right,
Speaker 3: So it was really it was really difficult to place me.
Speaker 3: It was difficult to do all those things. But my professionalism,
Speaker 3: the level at which I perform. All of those things
Speaker 3: all tie into that as well. Right, So, like I'm
Speaker 3: showing up definitely on time. Oh you want to call
Speaker 3: me because someone else canceled. Great, I'll be there in
Speaker 3: full hair and makeup in an hour.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So it's those little things that build up to having
Speaker 3: relatively consistent bookings. And by that I mean maybe I'll
Speaker 3: get three to six in a month, right, Okay, at
Speaker 3: the height of my career, I was getting between five
Speaker 3: and eight month, right. And those scenes could be a
Speaker 3: boy girl that pays a thousand dollars, We'll say, right,
Speaker 3: probably it's a girl girl. Okay, that's the seven hundred
Speaker 3: bucks solo five hundred bucks hand dobbed three hundred dollars, right,
Speaker 3: it could it may not be enough, right, So, like
Speaker 3: you do anything you can do that. I learned how
Speaker 3: to be a PA. I was a makeup artist like
Speaker 3: I you know, I was an extra, like, did a
Speaker 3: lot of things. I'm sorry, my dog is drinking water,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll cut out. Don't sweat it. I've had
Speaker 1: so many pets on this show. It's great.
Speaker 3: You want to see.
Speaker 2: Let's see Oh name Sonny Sunshine. That's cute.
Speaker 3: I have eleven, and she may not be with us
Speaker 3: this time next year. We'll see.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry to do that. I have a cat
Speaker 2: named David, so that's my thing. One eyed cat named Rollo.
Speaker 2: But he's I get.
Speaker 1: I totally get that. That that that is a great breakdown.
Speaker 1: So today, let's say you know you're pushing your your reaching.
Speaker 3: Out the paper athletes. It's hard, like it's you know,
Speaker 3: because like people imagine like what they see as a
Speaker 3: finished piece to be You're good.
Speaker 2: You're good. It's not bad. I swear to you, it's
Speaker 2: not bad. If it's bad for you, you can it's gonna
Speaker 2: pick it up. Whatever you need to do.
Speaker 3: What you go lay down? What was I saying?
Speaker 1: I don't know something about we were talking about the scenes.
Speaker 1: How many scenes you're going to get the average?
Speaker 3: Oh if people people see like they'll see like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: well this is like a five minute gonzo or ten
Speaker 3: minute gones or fifteen minute gonzo or something, or a
Speaker 3: thirty minute gonzo and they assume that thirty minute scene
Speaker 3: takes thirty minutes. Now, yeah, you are incredibly lucky if
Speaker 3: you get in and out and under two hours. Like
Speaker 3: we're working all days sometimes and so like you do
Speaker 3: have to put yourself out there, and like you'd have
Speaker 3: to be an athlete, you need to know exactly what
Speaker 3: your boundaries are and you need to know you know
Speaker 3: that you can in fact put your foot down with
Speaker 3: an agent, You can put your foot down with the
Speaker 3: director if you need to, like you know, like you
Speaker 3: can reprimmand a scene partner if you need to. And
Speaker 3: hopefully because you have the right conversation before you do
Speaker 3: the scene, you don't have to do any of that,
Speaker 3: but you know it can happen. But it's like you
Speaker 3: have to be ready to go that extra mile, Like
Speaker 3: you have to sit in traffic for two hours to
Speaker 3: get a set. You have to get up at four
Speaker 3: am to get to an eight am call for a
Speaker 3: twelve hour long set. You don't know, you know. So
Speaker 3: it's I think that's where the make or break happens.
Speaker 3: I think if you can be a professional, like real professional,
Speaker 3: even if you're doing content trades, that will be that
Speaker 3: difference of creating a career that last and fizzing out
Speaker 3: really quickly.
Speaker 1: The I think so many, especially even some of the
Speaker 1: newer girls I interviewed, no one that's been out so
Speaker 1: don't be like, oh I think this one did da
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this. But so many newer people
Speaker 1: coming into this don't understand it. Professionalism is like the
Speaker 1: biggest thing person you could have, the hottest nineteen twenty
Speaker 1: whatever year old girl you want to say, she doesn't
Speaker 1: show up to set, you don't shoot something. You know,
Speaker 1: like I had a comedy show before this and we
Speaker 1: were able to book by.
Speaker 3: A boundary, right right, And that's you know, it's that
Speaker 3: kind of thing. But so like I've met career I've
Speaker 3: met new OnlyFans creators at expos who are asking to
Speaker 3: do scenes like oh, what's your right for this or
Speaker 3: like that? And I'm like, well, who you were? And
Speaker 3: like they don't they're not even aware of what the
Speaker 3: current testing protocol is. They're not aware of the need
Speaker 3: for certain levels of paperwork or certain conversations or getting
Speaker 3: a recorded conversation or getting you know, things like that.
Speaker 3: And I think that that's something that's important to voice.
Speaker 3: And like FSC does a really good job, and you know,
Speaker 3: Alex Cole is a really great person for that as well,
Speaker 3: who's really open about like speak up for yourself. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, like if you're not a professional, like, you're
Speaker 3: not going to go anywhere in this industry.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you about that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to use any names only because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not convicting anyone personally, like I have no experience
Speaker 1: with the p On Twitter today, it's blowing up. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of people going after a male performer
Speaker 1: saying he did inappropriate things and this and that. Totally
Speaker 1: get that, everyone should be able to voice it. But
Speaker 1: I'm also seeing other female performers who are saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I worked with him, he was fine with me. I
Speaker 1: understand your experience, but mine was okay. So I'm not
Speaker 1: necessarily gonna attack this guy, tear this guy down. I
Speaker 1: don't know where I sit on that. As a man,
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't actually sit anywhere. Sit back, shut up, listen,
Speaker 1: let people talk. How do you feel about the cancelations,
Speaker 1: the this and that in this industry.
Speaker 3: As someone that has had an extremely bad set day,
Speaker 3: sure where it should have been bad enough that that
Speaker 3: performer was never at the very he's hired by that
Speaker 3: company again, and then seeing him back on set three
Speaker 3: weeks later after I got an apology from the owner
Speaker 3: of the company, like all, you know, all of these things.
Speaker 3: It's it's a hard thing, you know, because like everyone's human.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you know, you
Speaker 3: listen to victims very often, you know, these people that
Speaker 3: are speaking up, like especially industry, we if we're being generally,
Speaker 3: like we got receipts of some kind generally. So it's
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of like being there to listen
Speaker 3: and to you know, be understanding and like and but
Speaker 3: the thing is, too, is like it goes farther than
Speaker 3: that sometimes because you know, like it's not just he said,
Speaker 3: she said, kind of situations like they can be like
Speaker 3: really really really really dangerous, you know. So it's just
Speaker 3: because oh I met you know, like, uh, there's a
Speaker 3: girl I know who dated a guy for years. He
Speaker 3: was extremely abusive to her. I met him, I almost
Speaker 3: did a scene with him. I thought he was a
Speaker 3: really really nice guy, you know, but seeing what he
Speaker 3: did her, you know, and especially like some of the
Speaker 3: things he'd like I heard you know from that too.
Speaker 3: It's like that was something that he did like on
Speaker 3: a personal thing, like in their home behind closed doors, right,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, but that guy I don't think should
Speaker 3: be working in this end where you have people who
Speaker 3: are being extremely vulnerable with you, you know. Like so
Speaker 3: it's you know, because like the scenes that we shoot,
Speaker 3: some of the things that we do can easily easily
Speaker 3: easily be extremely dangerous to do. For sure, I dislocated
Speaker 3: a hip and tore ah Abram at a set just
Speaker 3: because we slid off the couch at the wrong angle.
Speaker 3: So and I was out for eight months. So it's
Speaker 3: you know, like so for me, like if someone is
Speaker 3: not safe emostally stable, maybe they shouldn't be in front
Speaker 3: of a camera with the scene partner just in case,
Speaker 3: you know. So that's that's something. But like guys that
Speaker 3: are doing things on sets that have like obvious yes
Speaker 3: they absolutely did do it, they should be blacklisted, and
Speaker 3: very often a lot of times they just go reinvent
Speaker 3: themselves and come back until they get caught again. So
Speaker 3: it's a early hard cycle that we see. But like
Speaker 3: I think people like to take the porn industry about
Speaker 3: that particularly because like, oh, yeah, see it's all these
Speaker 3: all these you know, violent men and you know, drug
Speaker 3: addicts and like all this thing, and I'm like, but
Speaker 3: it's not though, because if every single thing that happened
Speaker 3: in a break room or an office or a school
Speaker 3: or like a park or a shop or anything got
Speaker 3: as much traction and visibility as it gets. When someone
Speaker 3: in our industry shares a story, you would realize it's
Speaker 3: so common. It's so common, and all we can do
Speaker 3: is try to protect each other.
Speaker 2: So that's I get that.
Speaker 1: That makes total sense to me, And I think that's
Speaker 1: like the best breakdown. I got caught up because halfway
Speaker 1: through you gave me a new question. Shouldn't ask every
Speaker 1: girl what's your worst porn injury? I apologize that you
Speaker 1: went through that with your laborum and then put you out,
Speaker 1: but that is a great question I will be asking
Speaker 1: from now on.
Speaker 2: I I totally am.
Speaker 3: I haven't had happened yet. Hopefully they never do. That's
Speaker 3: all I can say, because that was horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine and in that situation, like were
Speaker 1: you just in total pain or were you just like
Speaker 1: what the fuck?
Speaker 3: I disassociate into just feeling like what's happening in a
Speaker 3: scene when I'm in a scene, Like the only wayness
Speaker 3: is like if you see like an actor in like
Speaker 3: a really really emotional scene in a movie like and
Speaker 3: they're there, they are that person in that moment. That's
Speaker 3: that's how I am in a scene. And the problem
Speaker 3: is for me is I will push myself to complete
Speaker 3: something with that dissociation. I don't feel it for a minute.
Speaker 3: It's adrenaline and it's you know, sex and everything else, right,
Speaker 3: So it's crazy. But yeah, we slid down. His leg
Speaker 3: was underneath this this leg like near my hip hinge,
Speaker 3: and we were in missionary and we slid off the
Speaker 3: couch because it was like one hundred something in the
Speaker 3: house and there was like eight of us in the scene,
Speaker 3: and so it was it was crazy. It was an
Speaker 3: already scene. And we slid off the couch and his
Speaker 3: hand was on my knee caup, so all the weight
Speaker 3: went down towards the floor, and since his leg was
Speaker 3: under my hip, it just you know, and I put
Speaker 3: my right back in because I'm hyper mobile, luckily, but
Speaker 3: my laborom did tear it over extended, so my label tour.
Speaker 3: I managed to finish the scene, had to be helped
Speaker 3: to my vehicle. But uh, but you never know it
Speaker 3: watching the scene. So that's professionalism there you go profession
Speaker 3: like when and praise for doing the mummy with the
Speaker 3: broken back. You know, it's the whole thing.
Speaker 2: You said earlier.
Speaker 1: There are a couple of things that are that you
Speaker 1: exclude in general, like you won't shoot this type of
Speaker 1: Is that what it would that? What would that be
Speaker 1: called that? Your limitation list?
Speaker 2: Your no list?
Speaker 3: I thought, no, yeah, like my boundaries, Like a no
Speaker 3: list is usually the term for like performers, we won't
Speaker 3: work with that. We can give our agents so we
Speaker 3: won't get booked with those people, like for example, the
Speaker 3: guy I had a bad experience with, right, so so
Speaker 3: that way I never had to work with him again. Like,
Speaker 3: no matter what the scene is, if there's a no
Speaker 3: list and it's a possibility some like that person could
Speaker 3: be there, the agent lets the cast and department know, right,
Speaker 3: and there could be like a chance cider like I
Speaker 3: could get dropped from that scene, or they'll drop the
Speaker 3: male talent, get different male talent. Usually they'll drop a
Speaker 3: male talent, but you never know.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had where you're on set and there
Speaker 1: was a male cancelation and they potentially flowed it.
Speaker 3: Like I've had my scene partner switched on me, like
Speaker 3: on set before, like when I showed up, So it happens,
Speaker 3: like it's just what it is. Just like we don't
Speaker 3: get a choose who we work with generally unless we're
Speaker 3: doing like private content. You know, some of the really
Speaker 3: big name performers can like they'll do like what are
Speaker 3: they called, like where it's like their movie, like their
Speaker 3: their sex their sex movie, and they all get to
Speaker 3: pick every single person for that, right. Some people are
Speaker 3: lucky enough to get to that level that they get
Speaker 3: like that deluxe release and like they get from like
Speaker 3: whatever company and they get or pick everyone in that
Speaker 3: movie and like figure out like like but I don't know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of opportunities you can get. Like Casey Caliber,
Speaker 3: for example, has written movies like she directs right, so
Speaker 3: like and she was just a performer, you know, begins.
Speaker 1: So what are some of the things on your bound
Speaker 1: Like what is if I go to one of your
Speaker 1: channels where I can check out your content, what is
Speaker 1: something like I'm not gonna say like this turns.
Speaker 3: Racial, but I do not use derogatory terminology. But like
Speaker 3: I don't do but stuff really like like ever on
Speaker 3: camera because then it like opens like a whole can
Speaker 3: of worms. But I don't do that. I don't do
Speaker 3: rough scenes. I don't do like the gagging and the
Speaker 3: choking and the and you know, the all of that,
Speaker 3: like the.
Speaker 2: Mess.
Speaker 3: Like I don't do that kind of stuff. And I
Speaker 3: have friends that do, and they it's just their jam
Speaker 3: and they love it. But I'm a little too dominant
Speaker 3: for that. I can't do it.
Speaker 2: So okay, all right, fair, I haven't.
Speaker 3: Tried, but like I just don't like it. So like
Speaker 3: I don't do those things, which limits a lot of
Speaker 3: the work because like a lot of this stuff that's
Speaker 3: popular it is like rougher scenes, So like I was
Speaker 3: limited to more gonzo and then like romance stuff for
Speaker 3: like the big companies like Wicked Adam and Eve Hustler,
Speaker 3: you know those kind of companies. Gotta do a lot
Speaker 3: of movies for them, which is cool, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: like other than that, Like I remember there was a
Speaker 3: point I'm the I had at the time was telling
Speaker 3: me I was going to ruin my career because I
Speaker 3: was like book me for trans stuff because I had
Speaker 3: a problem with it, right, So I was like book
Speaker 3: me for trans stuff. And at the time it was
Speaker 3: like really taboo to do that or like it wasn't
Speaker 3: like really good for you to do that, like you
Speaker 3: could lose other work because performers had that as like
Speaker 3: a boundary like anyone that does like what's cossify as
Speaker 3: crossover work, like no, we're not doing that, and they
Speaker 3: cost fight transperformers as crossover performers a lot of the
Speaker 3: times and at the time at least, and I was
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, no, fuck that, just book it right
Speaker 3: and did do anything, you know, and like it was
Speaker 3: like one of my first scenes was an interracial scene,
Speaker 3: which I think my agent maybe I don't know the
Speaker 3: particular agent, there was a big lawsuit that happened with him.
Speaker 3: I wasn't a part of it, but I did d
Speaker 3: my voice to it. But yeah, I feel like he
Speaker 3: like maybe pre booked me for some things, like a
Speaker 3: little too early in my career and like like those
Speaker 3: kinds of things like maybe I wasn't quite ready to do,
Speaker 3: but like I did. I'm they're fine, but uh but yeah,
Speaker 3: like an agent how they feel about you can fuck
Speaker 3: with your money like really easily. So you know, there's
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know where I was going.
Speaker 2: No, I totally get I totally did it, and I
Speaker 2: think I even know.
Speaker 3: I had great agents as well and everything they can
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 2: So I get it.
Speaker 1: I I think I know the exact site you're talking about,
Speaker 1: at least I obviously I'm not going to reference it.
Speaker 1: But and that one that one there were that was
Speaker 1: back in the day I think when people would go.
Speaker 2: Hard if I remember those scenes, was it a blowbang?
Speaker 3: Mmm?
Speaker 2: That wasn't.
Speaker 3: That wasn't what I was talking about. But yeah, just
Speaker 3: you know, just other things. But like, uh, but you know,
Speaker 3: in the end, I've had one thing where I got
Speaker 3: really lucky because I would have had to walk out
Speaker 3: if I would have showed up, then that would have
Speaker 3: been the scene. There was a scene I got booked
Speaker 3: for a blue job scene. My agent said, knowing that
Speaker 3: I don't do rough stuff, I had a booking for
Speaker 3: Zero Tolerance the day before that scene and it was
Speaker 3: for throated. But the Zero Tolerance scene was just like
Speaker 3: a boy girl right, so like but it was the
Speaker 3: same director, same director. So I was like, hey, so
Speaker 3: for tomorrow, like, what what's the scene? Like what's going on?
Speaker 3: Because like you know, it's for my wardrobe. And then
Speaker 3: he was like and I was like, oh, what what
Speaker 3: side is it for? Because you've never booked me for
Speaker 3: a VJ with this company, and it was like the
Speaker 3: only one I knew that he worked for.
Speaker 2: At the time.
Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, it's for throated. I said, oh, babe,
Speaker 3: I don't do that, and he was like, oh, well fuck,
Speaker 3: And I was like no, but look, I know a
Speaker 3: girl I was us talking to her about this like
Speaker 3: two days ago. Call our agencies with my agency and
Speaker 3: get this girl on your set because she's never worked
Speaker 3: for him before and she's a new girl. And he's like, okay, cool,
Speaker 3: and so you did that, you know, and so like sure,
Speaker 3: not only did I did, I have to like be
Speaker 3: like oh fuck, I'd lose money essentially, right because like
Speaker 3: my agent didn't pay attention. But you know, easy slipop, right.
Speaker 2: That goes back to the professionalism you talked to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I still recommended another girl from my agency
Speaker 3: to him, So you know there, you go.
Speaker 1: Talk to me where we're living here, because I'll tell
Speaker 1: you this. My wife and I are about to buy
Speaker 1: a house and the biggest thing, the most important thing
Speaker 1: to us is it has a big yard. Not so
Speaker 1: we can let dogs out, not so we can have kids.
Speaker 1: We want to grow our own vegetables.
Speaker 3: Across the country and buy the forty acre property for
Speaker 3: eighty k behind me.
Speaker 1: Honestly, if you saw the real estate prices in Jersey
Speaker 1: right now, I'd go, oh shit, that's like a strike cabin.
Speaker 3: There was a dry cabin on it with an outhouse.
Speaker 3: But you can build.
Speaker 1: Our plan is so so you currently I believe it's
Speaker 1: in your link tree.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: You have a go fund me up because you want
Speaker 1: to build an off the grid homestead. Tell me why
Speaker 1: that's important to you and what do you think your
Speaker 1: setup will look like? Do you plan on vegetation or
Speaker 1: you grow in your own like, talk me through it.
Speaker 3: So we we purchased this property. It's forty acres where
Speaker 3: in air desert climates, there is some work that we
Speaker 3: need to do ecologically before we can really try to
Speaker 3: like farm food out of the ground. But like we
Speaker 3: have we'll have greenhouses because it's hella too windy to
Speaker 3: have like and the weather's crazy, so it's like it
Speaker 3: can be really really hot in the summer, really really
Speaker 3: cold in the winter, and it's just better easier to
Speaker 3: have greenhouses because it's all sandstone out here and you
Speaker 3: can grow grow stuff once you have water availability, which
Speaker 3: you can for us, we can't put a well on it.
Speaker 3: So the idea to help us grow is to put
Speaker 3: in pond soals to help capture runoff soil as well
Speaker 3: as rain water to create natural forms and natural ponds
Speaker 3: which will help seep out into the ground where we
Speaker 3: are reseeding with native prairie grasses and wild flowers, and
Speaker 3: that should help them grow. And then once they grow
Speaker 3: and their deep ass roots get back down into the soil,
Speaker 3: then that will help the soil stay together. And then
Speaker 3: after a few years it should be rich enough for
Speaker 3: us to be able to plant something more substantial. So
Speaker 3: we'll see. But the whole idea is to live with
Speaker 3: what we have here, so like we want to work
Speaker 3: with everything set have against it. So like when we
Speaker 3: build like a chicken coop, for instance, a lot of
Speaker 3: people spend so much money trying to like heat and
Speaker 3: cool or chickens. We're just gonna build it out of
Speaker 3: earth bags and then we'll have its own thermal break.
Speaker 3: We won't have to worry about it. They'll be fine,
Speaker 3: like you know, it'll just work on its own, right,
Speaker 3: So like things like that. But yeah, but we plan
Speaker 3: to have cattle. My husband grew up on a Coln
Speaker 3: corn farm. They used to raise their own beef for themselves,
Speaker 3: so he's got background in that. So we want some cattle, chicken,
Speaker 3: some emuse, maybe some goats, some mini cows so I
Speaker 3: can do butter.
Speaker 1: And so this is full on, like I got to
Speaker 1: get the fuck off the.
Speaker 3: Grid as self sustainable as possible is the idea. So
Speaker 3: even the house, we're going to have a substantial solar
Speaker 3: system on it. It's only gonna be a little hot,
Speaker 3: like maybe fourteen hundred square feet, so two bed, two baths,
Speaker 3: mostly space in the pantry and utility rooms, so we
Speaker 3: can fit all the systems and food that we need.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we'll probably have like a twenty seven kill
Speaker 3: a watt solar system on the house, so that will
Speaker 3: run everything in the house, hot water, heaters, cooking, all
Speaker 3: of that, and we'll never have to worry about about
Speaker 3: that at all. We'll have plenty of storage battery packs,
Speaker 3: and we get so much sun out here that it's
Speaker 3: you know, and it's a south facing property.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, is this what's your timeline
Speaker 1: on that?
Speaker 2: Do you think? You say?
Speaker 3: You know? Now, let me get a house done. If
Speaker 3: not this coming year of the year after. But it's like,
Speaker 3: but that's why we have the GoFundMe because we have
Speaker 3: like we own our land, right and what we're trying
Speaker 3: to do is wager our land out for loan that's
Speaker 3: just enough to get a foundation and a steel structure
Speaker 3: out here that we can then build out from there.
Speaker 3: So that way, not only are we keeping our cost
Speaker 3: down monthly, we have a much shorter loan period and
Speaker 3: a lower interest rate and less out of pocket to
Speaker 3: the bank. The thirty k is to help with the
Speaker 3: funds for the deposit on the structure itself, which is
Speaker 3: from a separate company, and then the plans and build
Speaker 3: plans for the home because we have to present them
Speaker 3: even though it's still not going to be a house
Speaker 3: for like a few years. We have to present that
Speaker 3: before we can get the loan, and we have to
Speaker 3: do the deposit on the building before they'll like start
Speaker 3: doing production and plans for that as well from their systems.
Speaker 3: So because they have like their own engineer drawing, and
Speaker 3: I need that drawing to give to the architect to
Speaker 3: do the rest of the plans to give to the bank.
Speaker 3: So that's that's what all of that is for, and
Speaker 3: that will basically launch us to a point where we
Speaker 3: can get the loan, get the building out here, get started,
Speaker 3: film it all, and build it out of pocket. So
Speaker 3: we're paying twelve hundred and fourteen dollars a month for
Speaker 3: that and we own everything out right in ten years.
Speaker 1: So not to put this into the universe to your
Speaker 1: fans out there, obviously, I don't want to create any
Speaker 1: fear for them. But when this is completed, you're all
Speaker 1: set up. Is that a exit from the industry or
Speaker 1: is it less.
Speaker 2: In the industry? Is it more personal content industry?
Speaker 3: So the way I am now is very likely the
Speaker 3: way it will be. I do know that, like, once
Speaker 3: we have the home and everything, I may invite friends
Speaker 3: to come out for visits and maybe do customs and
Speaker 3: content with them. But I'll also be more available to
Speaker 3: like travel, because a big part of it is, you know,
Speaker 3: with the animals that we have even now, like right,
Speaker 3: so like we have the dogs and some others, and
Speaker 3: the main thing is make sure or care for and
Speaker 3: my husband works away from home forty is a week
Speaker 3: right right now, I'm only available to travel Friday through Sunday.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's all I got, right, But once we have a house.
Speaker 3: We can have a house sitter come in during the
Speaker 3: week and I could be gone all week and it
Speaker 3: wouldn't matter, you know. So it's that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: So that's that's something where I may be able to
Speaker 3: come back full tilt milf and travel a few you know,
Speaker 3: a few times a year and shoot scenes and you know,
Speaker 3: still have fun things going out because like I will
Speaker 3: say this, I like shooting costumes. I hate making just
Speaker 3: content on my own, not my I got into the
Speaker 3: industry to shoot with companies, to be in front of
Speaker 3: cameras on sets and like have you know that and
Speaker 3: feel like a rock star, right, feel like feel like
Speaker 3: a movie star. And you can feel that way doing
Speaker 3: content shoots, but it's really hard to feel that way
Speaker 3: and this very limited amount of space because that limits
Speaker 3: to creativity as well. So it's like I don't have
Speaker 3: perfect lighting and like with a setup on like a
Speaker 3: backdrop or like a specific setup to shoot in or
Speaker 3: like any you know, it's like it's this couch or
Speaker 3: it's that bad and it's all dark. So it's you know,
Speaker 3: like I can do I can do customs all day,
Speaker 3: but like to do like every single day content like
Speaker 3: I just my brain doesn't work that way. So I
Speaker 3: spend all day on sex Panther and that's what I do,
Speaker 3: and I love it. Some of the I swear to
Speaker 3: got some of the stuff that I get into on
Speaker 3: the back and forth and sex Panther would make like
Speaker 3: great scenes too, like like so crazy some of the
Speaker 3: stories that I've had with people over the years.
Speaker 1: See I've I've okay, all right, well, I mean, can
Speaker 1: you pitch me one of those scenarios. You don't have
Speaker 1: to what's something that's crazy?
Speaker 3: You random? Random the scenarios is absolutely not gonna be
Speaker 3: appropriate to talk about for you too. That's most of
Speaker 3: the scenarios, most of the scenarios. But there is one.
Speaker 3: It's a very particular fetish. It's called giant tests.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So there was a guy, He's an Australian guy that
Speaker 3: I love. I love him to death. He's so sweet
Speaker 3: and he's into that fetish. And there's like a secondary
Speaker 3: part of that fetish where you can like eat people, yeah,
Speaker 3: like you shrink them down and you can know and
Speaker 3: they live in you and become part of you and
Speaker 3: LinkedIn you know. It's a whole thing. I'm actually doing
Speaker 3: like I'm going to Vegas in February for a shoot
Speaker 3: for a company to do that. But it's so one
Speaker 3: of the stories that we had was kind of like
Speaker 3: a Raiders of the Lost Arc but searching for this
Speaker 3: totem of this like giant test species that was from
Speaker 3: another planet or something like. It was crazy and like
Speaker 3: in the moment, like I am able to you've such
Speaker 3: intricate detail about the stone, the color, the amount of dew,
Speaker 3: and like how the moss is dripping off of it,
Speaker 3: and like how the statue in the temple is shaped
Speaker 3: with the mouth open wide and the tongue coming down,
Speaker 3: and like the you know, the table underneath it and
Speaker 3: like all these things.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So it was like, I don't know, like visually it
Speaker 3: would have been really really cool, but it's like you
Speaker 3: have to have like hard course.
Speaker 2: CGI, well, let me ask you.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, because that's actually kind of a
Speaker 1: I by the way, you sound great, but I've done
Speaker 1: so many interviews where I jump on with a big name.
Speaker 1: I really want to talk to somebody I love their
Speaker 1: content and everything, and it sounds terrible on their end,
Speaker 1: and am just like I think it's the same thing
Speaker 1: you were kind of saying there where I go.
Speaker 2: I want to do so much.
Speaker 1: More with this, but I within the means I can
Speaker 1: work in. It's it's tough, and I actually get a
Speaker 1: little bummed out, Like, oh man, that interview THINGK here's
Speaker 1: what I would say, and I'd like your opinion on it.
Speaker 1: What you just pitched sounds like a really good use
Speaker 1: case or AI in the future, right.
Speaker 3: But I can't do it.
Speaker 2: Why can't you do it? Put yourself in it.
Speaker 1: You do it yourself, and then it's all your art
Speaker 1: you created that you used a different tool.
Speaker 2: It's just a different.
Speaker 3: Nothing that AI can create that is going to match
Speaker 3: what's in my brain.
Speaker 2: Give it two threes.
Speaker 3: Also, ask someone that likes to draw, and ask someone
Speaker 3: that's on camera generally for a living or was, and
Speaker 3: someone that does stuff over the phone and text messaging
Speaker 3: and all of those things. Fuck AI. Fuck it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I understand, I understand, and I understand from your
Speaker 1: work taking everyone's jobs.
Speaker 2: I get jobs. I totally get that. I get that
Speaker 2: you are jobs.
Speaker 1: You know what someone might have said, I bet there
Speaker 1: some guy in the Brawser's office somewhere ten years ago
Speaker 1: who went fucking OnlyFans.
Speaker 2: What is this.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about this. It's a new thing. They'll
Speaker 1: never figure it out. That won't put it together.
Speaker 2: Really, No, of course not.
Speaker 3: It's a way that they can find people now.
Speaker 2: So you know, there's so many big names that I
Speaker 2: know though.
Speaker 3: That was initially pitched to everybody by the guy that's
Speaker 3: heardd really, so all right, that's how I learned about it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I totally get the hatred. I totally
Speaker 1: get the fear or hatred or anger behind AI. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I would watch that movie if you made it.
Speaker 3: I know it would be good.
Speaker 2: I know when you think about it that way, think
Speaker 2: about it that.
Speaker 3: It requires the kind of AI that I have to
Speaker 3: pay to get.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you two three years from now, you'll
Speaker 1: be able to put the idea in, type it out
Speaker 1: and detail. And I'm not I'm not cheering for AI.
Speaker 1: I'm only saying I want to see that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you'll ever shoot it, if you have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to ever put it in AI. I'd like to
Speaker 1: watch your movie, Okay, that's all.
Speaker 2: I'd like my giant test or.
Speaker 1: So last what this went by like that. By the way,
Speaker 1: let me ask you last question here, what is the
Speaker 1: career future? I guess we kind of touched on it already,
Speaker 1: but you want to finish the personal stuff first, the house,
Speaker 1: the setting everything up, the what are you calling it?
Speaker 1: Are you calling it a homestead or a compound? Compound
Speaker 1: sound scary?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Compound is like multiple housing units.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, fair enough so, but yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I mean that's really what it is. I'm like it,
Speaker 3: Like I always said that I will be in front
Speaker 3: of the camera as long as someone wants to see
Speaker 3: me there.
Speaker 4: And I and I believe that, like I like I
Speaker 4: have tried, I have tried out of it in a way,
Speaker 4: like I like I was working with companies that were
Speaker 4: like adult industry adjacent, like they were like script writing
Speaker 4: or they were you know, doing like a different fan
Speaker 4: site or like whatever, you know, and they just didn't
Speaker 4: They all fumbled and they just need that because you know,
Speaker 4: the men in charge didn't run them properly.
Speaker 3: But you know that's I tried a normal job again
Speaker 3: for the first time in like fifteen years, and I
Speaker 3: was just like, this is literally a waste of my energy,
Speaker 3: Like this is I'm like I'm not fulfilled doing this
Speaker 3: in any way. I am fulfilled when I'm sharing something
Speaker 3: with someone on a videotap or a phone call or
Speaker 3: text message. Like I'm fulfilled when I'm in front of
Speaker 3: a camera on a studio set. I'm like, I love it,
Speaker 3: like it's just part of meat and who I am
Speaker 3: completely So I don't think it will ever completely go away,
Speaker 3: but who knows, you know, Like, but the idea like
Speaker 3: two have something larger, you know, in the back of
Speaker 3: my head is a benefit because then now, now, okay,
Speaker 3: I've got a mudroom, I've got a pantry, I've got
Speaker 3: two bedrooms, I've got two different bathrooms. I've got a
Speaker 3: living room, I've got a deck, I've got an outdoor space.
Speaker 3: I've got you know, maybe a shop one day or
Speaker 3: a barn, you know. So like those kinds of things.
Speaker 3: That helps a lot when it comes to being able
Speaker 3: to produce a lot more, you know, so you know,
Speaker 3: being able to have like different scenarios and spaces and
Speaker 3: things and not just feeling like you're in this tunnel.
Speaker 3: You know, as good as I try, it still looks
Speaker 3: looks how it looks. So it's yeah, I mean I
Speaker 3: think that like once the house is done, we'll probably
Speaker 3: see like an uptick you know of me doing more stuff,
Speaker 3: you know. But we're also hoping that building the home
Speaker 3: in the way that we're building it will help inspire
Speaker 3: other people to try to do something too, because like
Speaker 3: we were just trying to figure out, like how can
Speaker 3: we build a house without giving a bank half yeah,
Speaker 3: more than half a million dollars without giving a bank
Speaker 3: one point three million dollars, like you know, over the
Speaker 3: course of however many years, you know, and especially being
Speaker 3: people that like don't come from money and also like
Speaker 3: don't make a lot of money. My best year ever
Speaker 3: in porn, I think I did like seventy five or
Speaker 3: eighty k, right, my best year and that includes dancing
Speaker 3: and sex panther and everything else. Right, So you know,
Speaker 3: like like we're just normal people, a lot of us.
Speaker 3: We're just trying to pay the bills, make it work,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: And uh, and.
Speaker 3: You know, I have like a big persona for sure,
Speaker 3: Like you know, like I feel timeless, I know, but
Speaker 3: but I'm just a normal person, you know, like itruggle
Speaker 3: to pay the bills. I started to struggle, you know,
Speaker 3: the put things together, and like we literally script everything
Speaker 3: we could to get this property, you know, and we did,
Speaker 3: and that was years ago, Like we bought it two
Speaker 3: years ago, so almost three years ago, and we've been
Speaker 3: here in the bus right, so so yeah, like yeah,
Speaker 3: ask them for a little bit of help now, and
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, it's not a little bit. It's you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's so much money, and I'm like yeah, but
Speaker 3: like it's as little as two dollars for you know,
Speaker 3: it's not you know, for for ten for ten thousand people.
Speaker 3: You know, like that's it. It just needs like if
Speaker 3: you can't donate, to share it, you know, because our
Speaker 3: goal too is to like help educate people, and it's
Speaker 3: like and help our community as well. You know, like
Speaker 3: we're in a really small town here, you know, like
Speaker 3: we're next to a bigger area, but like there's so
Speaker 3: much that like it, if we're able to like produce
Speaker 3: the way we help to that, we'd be able to
Speaker 3: help like give families fresh food, you know, because the
Speaker 3: food banks here don't do fresh food, right, Like they
Speaker 3: only do box foods and stuff, and like fresh food
Speaker 3: is important or being able to donate, you know, eggs
Speaker 3: are being able to do things like that and like
Speaker 3: and then also working with hopefully maybe like you know,
Speaker 3: some schools or something to like bring kids out and
Speaker 3: like teach them about the animals and about how we're
Speaker 3: using the natural ecology of our area to work for
Speaker 3: us instead of working against it, you know, Like that's
Speaker 3: what we're trying to do. Like this year, like we
Speaker 3: have like there's a wild grass like a groundcover that
Speaker 3: is here in Colorado, and like we planted some of
Speaker 3: it this past year. You always plan right before its
Speaker 3: nose so sis and like doesn't get eaten by bird
Speaker 3: and stuff. So it's under the snow and gets hydrated
Speaker 3: and pushed down and it's like full groundcover and it's
Speaker 3: you know, it's spreading like we've had we had wildflowers
Speaker 3: this year and like everything you know, and it's and
Speaker 3: it's we have a lot more wildlife. We have a deer, elk,
Speaker 3: big horn sheep. Like it's great. You know. So like
Speaker 3: what we're doing is working. It just takes a really
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 1: Sure it's hard for money, ladies and gentlemen. I've been
Speaker 1: setting that up for a little while. I Eden Blair
Speaker 1: my guests for the evening. You know exactly where you
Speaker 1: can find her if you want to call her Texter.
Speaker 1: It's at eaten Blair links to everything or in the
Speaker 1: episode description, Eden, thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 1: with me tonight.
Speaker 3: Oh and just you know, my Twitter is at Eden.
Speaker 2: Underscore Underscore Blair.
Speaker 3: Yes that is the dificial Eden Blair at Instagram.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right again links to all that in the
Speaker 2: episode description. Make sure you check it. Eden again, thank
Speaker 2: you for coming on with me a tonight.
Speaker 3: Of course, it was lovely here Kiah