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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Got lord of this is your favorite tinfoil realist, not theorist.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a doozy here today, folks. Uh. Jay Dyer,

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<v Speaker 2>comedian podcaster. He's gonna be coming into the room in

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<v Speaker 2>about ten minutes. Uh, this is an exciting space, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super excited that I've done the rabbit hole with Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. This is a guy who I mean, if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a if you're a tinfoiler, you probably watched some

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<v Speaker 2>Jay dire content. And yeah, just excited to pick his brain.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm intrigued to know his crypto story, his bitcoin story.

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<v Speaker 1>I am really.

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<v Speaker 2>Intrigued to this is again I look at him kind

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<v Speaker 2>of as, uh, this is our first space from an

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<v Speaker 2>outside of perspective. I know he's got bitcoin, he's got crypto,

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<v Speaker 2>he told THHC. But this is a good opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>find out, you know, how'd you find bitcoin, how'd you

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<v Speaker 2>find crypto? What are you looking at in the industry

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<v Speaker 2>these days? I kind of want to get his thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on Trump and Trump's crypto policies, where that's heading.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, We're gonna find out just kind of a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about him. What he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super intrigued to know what life was like during

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<v Speaker 2>the COVID times for some of these content creators. I

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<v Speaker 2>know myself personally, I was doing the content creation during

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<v Speaker 2>those days. I had a decent little following on the

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube right as the COVID stuff had started. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea was, wait, this just came from a bat

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<v Speaker 2>or did it come potentially from this lab that's right

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<v Speaker 2>there in the same area. Uh, you weren't allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Originally.

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<v Speaker 1>That led to insta bands, instad deletes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not a good not a good way to

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<v Speaker 2>grow an audience on any of those platforms. So I

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<v Speaker 2>I lost my Facebook, I lost my YouTube, I lost

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter ten different times. Thank god Elon finally bought Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to see him by a video platform.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, you look at Twitter, seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>the place of growing in terms of videos. I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>looking at doing some kind of video platform soon. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>really like to get into doing the video streams again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just super personal when you get to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>see what's going on. Oh, ladies and justice is an

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<v Speaker 2>exciting one. Let's talk about Crypto for a second. Conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>the conspiracy meta. I'm gonna keep fucking pushing this by

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<v Speaker 2>the conspiracy coins, folks. I've got my little list, I've

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<v Speaker 2>posted my list a bunch, I've showed this. New one's

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<v Speaker 2>popping up every day. I'm in a group chat to

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<v Speaker 2>see flat Earth in here. I'm in a group chat

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<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of these conspiracy coins, and yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>fucking vibing together. I love all the spaces that are

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<v Speaker 2>getting hosted flat I hate you because you just happened

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<v Speaker 2>to I don't know what your time zone is, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the same as mine.

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<v Speaker 1>You keep having.

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<v Speaker 2>Spaces right in the middle of my workday. But I

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<v Speaker 2>excited to get to chatting with those guys more. Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>the conspiracy matters booming. Just took a little look at

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<v Speaker 2>my list today. Noticed I fucking missed one so hard

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<v Speaker 2>a Woke. It's token called a woke on Solana. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I put it on my list at maybe two

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<v Speaker 2>million market cap. As of right now, it's sitting at

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven point nine million market cap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Originally, when I've made my list, TC tonight cat was

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<v Speaker 2>the number one conspiracy token in terms of market cap,

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<v Speaker 2>but a Woke has went fucking flying. Oh no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not on Solana, it's not a Theorial, It's in a

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<v Speaker 2>Theeum conspiracy coin. So yeah, i't thirty seven and a

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<v Speaker 2>half million of eight one hundred and eighty six percent today.

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<v Speaker 2>The next one I've been watching is Restore the Republic

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<v Speaker 2>the RTR.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a salonic coin.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't really call that a conspiracy coin. It's more

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<v Speaker 2>of a I'll call it a politifi coin. Just but

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<v Speaker 2>because there's such a conspiracy movement and momentum behind Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole Restore the Republic, that's probably a

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it's on my conspiracy coin list. I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>say that we got ten acat. We're sitting at thirty

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<v Speaker 2>cents right now. A couple couple of Jeters went on,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen somebody fucking clip twenty grand this morning. That

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<v Speaker 2>sent us down a little bit, but fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>Dip getting bought. We've been grinding our way back.

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<v Speaker 2>Up thirty cents.

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<v Speaker 1>God Sonic is coming soon, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>The Deason the date the migration is getting I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>a big migration group now, of all the projects that

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<v Speaker 2>are looking at migrating layers.

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<v Speaker 1>Heros involved in folks. Things are cooking. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>Sonic is coming soon. Oh I'm excited. Uh, let me

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<v Speaker 1>get back to the Twitter for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, let's get let's get flatters up here for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>We got we got a few minutes before. Oh we

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<v Speaker 1>got chudd in here too. What's going on? Chud?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>So boys, we got a couple of minutes before Jay

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<v Speaker 1>joined us.

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<v Speaker 2>So speak what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? No?

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<v Speaker 5>I just I knew. I knew you guys were really

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<v Speaker 5>excited about the Info Wars guy, you know, joining and

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<v Speaker 5>that's just super. I wanted to pop in and see

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<v Speaker 5>what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I gotta do here?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry?

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<v Speaker 6>Let me just adjust my settings here. I'm hearing you.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you guys hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep?

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<v Speaker 6>Loud and clear now, Sarah, I'd think I just have

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<v Speaker 6>my bluetooth on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're Your audio quality just got like ten times better.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Speaking of conspiracies, you know there there's been chatter

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<v Speaker 5>around uh Sonic being delayed. Have you guys do you

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<v Speaker 5>guys know anything about that?

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<v Speaker 7>Ooo? I from from a personal perspective, I have yet

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<v Speaker 7>to hear this conspiracy. But from a personal perspective, I've

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<v Speaker 7>never seen anybody have a successful Q four launch.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>Usually anybody that's aimed at a quarter four launch that

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<v Speaker 7>always comes quarter one of the following year. So the

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<v Speaker 7>idea of a quarter four launch here, I'm not exactly

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<v Speaker 7>expecting it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I just I've heard different things and like it

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<v Speaker 5>might just be like fun or whatever, but.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, this could be yeah, this could be coming

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<v Speaker 7>from Andre talking about ship too, I've seen he tweeted

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<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty five under one of the Sonic Labs tweets.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh boy, well, okay, okay. With that said, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if you guys remember I remember this, but when

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<v Speaker 5>when Opera when the Sonic Cup Break went live on Opera,

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<v Speaker 5>Andrea was surprised that it went live as early as

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<v Speaker 7>Interesting, So that's what I'm Andrea recently tweeted something about

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<v Speaker 7>that Opera went live on the twenty seventh of December

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<v Speaker 7>of whatever year that was, twenty seventeen, so there was

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<v Speaker 7>inklings that it would be cool if you know, Sonic

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<v Speaker 7>launched the same day as as Opera's previous launch. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>it's funny you say that you're hearing things of it

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<v Speaker 7>being delayed because just the fact that we haven't got

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<v Speaker 7>a date yet. Leads me to believe it's not coming

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<v Speaker 7>this year.

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<v Speaker 5>So when when, Andrea? If he says twenty five, does

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<v Speaker 5>that mean twenty twenty five or December twenty five?

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<v Speaker 6>Though, so he the tweet was twenty twenty five. Oh,

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<v Speaker 6>he was just straight up saying twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 5>Dreames crust right there now.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure if that was just you know, fucking

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<v Speaker 7>around with the Sonic Labs marketing department or what that

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<v Speaker 7>whole thing is about. But again, no, I've seen a

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<v Speaker 7>fucking successful quarter for launch that usually gets pushed the

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<v Speaker 7>quarter one so soon.

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<v Speaker 6>Wouldn't be surprised. Flat what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Brother?

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<v Speaker 6>I see you up in here.

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<v Speaker 4>Good evening, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>How goes it?

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<v Speaker 4>Life is very good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good to hear your voice as well.

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<v Speaker 4>On the conspiracy fy on the Conspiritify spaces, we keep

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<v Speaker 4>missing you. Yeah, we usually do it any but you're

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<v Speaker 4>an American time zone.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have a job.

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<v Speaker 4>It's quit your job season, bro. You' supposed to quit

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<v Speaker 4>your job.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I keep hearing.

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<v Speaker 6>Apparently I'm not locking in enough.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to quit the job.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I see, I learned from the twenty twenty one run.

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<v Speaker 7>As soon as I started taking screenshots, it did reach

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<v Speaker 7>a point where I quit job twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 6>Quit job is like.

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<v Speaker 7>Right at Peko top, right at Peako top, quit job,

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<v Speaker 7>and then all of a sudden coins that start crashing,

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<v Speaker 7>the rush of Ukraine stuff pops off. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 7>I learned from that one learned that you want to

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<v Speaker 7>just keep putting money into crypto and not taking from

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<v Speaker 7>your crypto.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you know, you know the cardinals, sims are taking

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<v Speaker 5>screenshots of your portfolio or showing your portfolio balance to

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<v Speaker 5>your significant other.

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<v Speaker 7>Ah See, I'm learning that when you want to take

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<v Speaker 7>the screenshot is actually when you want to hit the

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<v Speaker 7>cell button.

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<v Speaker 3>This is true.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're bragging about it, sell it. But it was

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<v Speaker 4>good to have a w r X crypto. He joined

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<v Speaker 4>the space on behalf the tin Hat cats.

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<v Speaker 6>That was good. That's awesome to hear.

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<v Speaker 7>W r X is our our resident news reporter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>he's doing an epic job for the Tinact team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>it's awesome. I really want to get Maybe I'll set

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<v Speaker 7>one up on a weekend or something like that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 7>we can entice you guys in on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 6>Have some fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Good do I mean, evening Tommy is good because you

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<v Speaker 4>have all the American attention but no commitment, but you

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<v Speaker 4>miss out on the Europeans are American, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 4>but there are a few of us, US Brits and

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<v Speaker 4>a few Europeans still have a little bit of courage

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<v Speaker 4>left in our blood.

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<v Speaker 6>I love here, well, folks. It is now eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure Jay is gonna be jumping up here a

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<v Speaker 7>couple of minutes. Folks, I'm gonna I think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 7>open up the lines later. This is obviously our first

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<v Speaker 7>like big Space, so I'm gonna open up these these

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<v Speaker 7>lines later for people to come jump up and ask

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<v Speaker 7>questions for Jay. But folks, I'm gonna I'm gonna kick

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<v Speaker 7>a couple of you from from the Speaker's rules. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 7>you guys jumping up here before killing some time with me.

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<v Speaker 7>Chut your legend, love the love the wars that you're

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<v Speaker 7>fighting for.

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<v Speaker 6>THC. It's nice to have, thanks to have somebody fighting

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<v Speaker 6>with us this time around. All right, I see Jay's.

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<v Speaker 7>Up in here. Let's get you up on stage, sir.

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<v Speaker 7>This is an exciting one, folks. Welcome to the stage

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<v Speaker 7>comedian and podcaster Jay Dyer. I highly recommend just teching.

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<v Speaker 7>Just look up Jay dire on YouTube. The content is incredible,

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<v Speaker 7>whether it's the daily podcast listenings or the him being

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<v Speaker 7>a guest as a podcaster on stuff, whether it's the

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<v Speaker 7>work he's doing for Tucker's Network. There's a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 7>of shit that Jay's got going on, real real fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not probably not gonna get him down the rabbit

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<v Speaker 7>hole today, but if you're interested in religion at all,

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<v Speaker 7>I swear to God, this has got to be the

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<v Speaker 7>guy that you got to talk to constantly, having these

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<v Speaker 7>like religious debates, talking people from all over the world,

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<v Speaker 7>real real interesting topics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Fuck, trying to get him up on stage here having

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<v Speaker 6>some issues. Let me see if I and.

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<v Speaker 7>Figured this out, just a little bit of technical difficulties.

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<v Speaker 7>think I'm running okay. Oh I had them up here

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<v Speaker 7>for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh there is what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Brother?

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<v Speaker 6>How are you? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>Do?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up with you? Man?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm good, appreciate you jumping up here with us. It's

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<v Speaker 7>a pleasure for me and an honor to have you

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<v Speaker 7>kind of join us. We're the conspiracy coin in the

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<v Speaker 7>in the crypto space.

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<v Speaker 6>We'd like to think that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we like to It's mascot season apparently in the

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<v Speaker 7>crypto world, so we'd like to think that we're becoming

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<v Speaker 7>the conspiracy mascot of the space.

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<v Speaker 6>But I do want to jump down some.

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<v Speaker 7>Rabbit holes with you, because, uh, I don't get to

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<v Speaker 7>talk to somebody at your level of tinfoiler very often,

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<v Speaker 7>and for myself, I mean I go by the moniker tinfoil.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh what level am I at?

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't know that like a level ninety nine, level

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<v Speaker 8>sixty nine?

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<v Speaker 3>Thou like, what's the level on that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's definitely like up in the sixty nines.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>There's there's there's.

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<v Speaker 7>Some rankings like there's we got you know, the Alex Jones.

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<v Speaker 7>I gotta I gotta put like on the god the

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<v Speaker 7>god tyr.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. Yeah, he's at the top of the meme.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Sam Tripley, I have to put way up

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<v Speaker 6>on this list.

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<v Speaker 3>He's up there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to get into you know, Sam, there's an

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<v Speaker 7>awesome moment the Trump where every the whole fucking world

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<v Speaker 7>is waiting on this Trump podcast to drop. On Rogan,

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<v Speaker 7>everybody's going to Spotify waiting for this podcast to drop.

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<v Speaker 6>What does Rogan do?

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<v Speaker 7>He dropped the Sam Triplei Tinfoil hat uh episode with.

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<v Speaker 6>Him on the day that we're all waiting for Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>So the world tunes in to Sam Tripley taking everybody

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<v Speaker 7>down the rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 6>And at one point he brings up a gentleman named Jay.

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<v Speaker 3>Dyer and it was all by design, it was all planned.

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<v Speaker 6>Dude, beautiful. Yes, I want to get down that rabbit

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<v Speaker 6>hole at some point.

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<v Speaker 7>The idea that you opened his eyes on British intelligence

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<v Speaker 7>and that the British Empire never never died, that it

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<v Speaker 7>only has grown and redefined borders in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that is so fucking interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well before we do that, though, you have to guess

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<v Speaker 3>what this is?

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<v Speaker 7>He ready, Okay, that's a that's a Sam Tripley laugh.

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<v Speaker 8>That is Sam's laugh when you say something and he's

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<v Speaker 8>not really paying attention and he's he's laughing out of kindness.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I just had to throw that in there.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 8>I love Sam Tripley, so I'm always impersonating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 7>It was funny to the wife, and I went and

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<v Speaker 7>seen him this summer, actually very small small venue up

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<v Speaker 7>in Toronto, sixty seater. Maybe my my wifey is Latina,

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit loud, lapsed just a half a second

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<v Speaker 7>longer than everybody else in the room.

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<v Speaker 6>All five openers for Sam just dialed in on her

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<v Speaker 6>and just ripped her a new one.

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<v Speaker 7>And then Sam got up on stage and just had

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<v Speaker 7>watched this whole thing play.

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<v Speaker 6>Out, and he went at both of us.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>One of one of the favorite, my favorite nights I've

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<v Speaker 6>ever had. So let's get into you, sir. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 6>me a bit of your background.

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<v Speaker 7>There's obviously a journey to to putting on the tinfoil hat.

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<v Speaker 6>Where are you from?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm from a really small town in West Tennessee

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<v Speaker 8>outside Nashville. So I grew up in the South Bible

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<v Speaker 8>Bell military dad and all that, and that took us

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<v Speaker 8>to California, who was stationed in San Diego, so actually

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<v Speaker 8>grew up out there for I guess my formative years,

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<v Speaker 8>that time period.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was kind of a party guy in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like.

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<v Speaker 8>A wild weed smoking party dude. And I was really

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<v Speaker 8>into movies and the arts, so I was involved in

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<v Speaker 8>theater and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm heterosexual. I was not a theater kid. Everybody assumes

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<v Speaker 3>you're automatically gay.

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<v Speaker 8>No, actually is a great place to meet girls because

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<v Speaker 8>all the other dudes are gay, So you got like

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<v Speaker 8>a a lot better chances with the theater girls.

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<v Speaker 6>But I took I took dance growing up, so I

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<v Speaker 6>know about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sure you're not gay?

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<v Speaker 7>I gotta I gotta got a little baby on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Kay?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he her?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 6>We'll find out. I gotta wait for that one.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny when I thought Tripoly.

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<v Speaker 8>We saw him a lot too, my wife and not

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<v Speaker 8>a few months ago in LA And the funniest part

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<v Speaker 8>you said you were from Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>Like there was a small room that Sam did.

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<v Speaker 8>And it he just, for about twenty minutes straight, just

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<v Speaker 8>went after all the Canadians. For some reason, there was

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<v Speaker 8>like a giant troop of Canadians in LA that day,

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<v Speaker 8>so the entire audience was Canadians and then me and

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<v Speaker 8>my wife and Sam really impressed me because for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>It was awesome anyway. Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 8>Back to me, I mean, I was just kind of

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<v Speaker 8>was really interested in film and went to college originally

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<v Speaker 8>to study religion and philosophy, but I ended up taking

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<v Speaker 8>quite a few film classes because that was just kind

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<v Speaker 8>of a side interest I had. I always liked, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>aspirations for that kind of stuff when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 8>But in college I really just honed in on a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of the more intellectual endeavors and got really deep

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<v Speaker 8>into religious philosophy, geopolitics. I took a lot of courses

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<v Speaker 8>that dealt with those fears as well. I was studying history,

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<v Speaker 8>getting a separate degree in history, so it was a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of academic stuff. But around that same time, this

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<v Speaker 8>is maybe like around two thousand and two three, I

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<v Speaker 8>stumbled across some of the more infamous I guess documentaries

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<v Speaker 8>that were floating around at that time. There was some

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<v Speaker 8>early stuff that Alex Jones did about Skull and Bones

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<v Speaker 8>that I happened across in two thousand and two or three.

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<v Speaker 8>He had done Bohemian grove stuff, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched that. I was already a little bit aware.

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<v Speaker 8>Of conspiracy stuff because I read a book in nineteen

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<v Speaker 8>ninety eight about the United Nations and Freemasonry, so I

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<v Speaker 8>kind of had the the seeds of conspiracy stuff in

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<v Speaker 8>my head. And I liked movies that were somewhat conspiratorial,

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<v Speaker 8>like Dick Donner's Conspiracy Theory with Mel Gibson. That was

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<v Speaker 8>some other kind of you know, conspiracy adjacent stuff, kind

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<v Speaker 8>of in the you know, drug culture and the hippie

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<v Speaker 8>type of sphere. I was into some of that stuff,

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<v Speaker 8>but eventually, like I said, it just became more of

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<v Speaker 8>an academicus because for me, it was like, on the

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<v Speaker 8>one hand, I'm studying all this philosophical stuff and then

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<v Speaker 8>on the other hand, I'm studying a bunch of historical

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<v Speaker 8>Hollywood stuff, and you wouldn't think the two domains meet.

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<v Speaker 8>But what I found by the time I was doing

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<v Speaker 8>my grad work was that no, actually, these these overlap perfectly,

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<v Speaker 8>because Hollywood really becomes kind of a locust, kind of

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<v Speaker 8>a nexus, you could say, of utilizing the techniques of

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<v Speaker 8>mynd control and what's called the Velton Schanskrieg or worldview warfare,

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<v Speaker 8>and honing that in to basically mind control people through film,

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<v Speaker 8>through propaganda. So that's what I really focused on, and

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<v Speaker 8>that led to what would ultimately come the topics of

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<v Speaker 8>the first two books that I wrote on Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 6>Crazy. Yeah, the Hollywood shit is so interesting.

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<v Speaker 7>Television, television, the semantics just in the the words that

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<v Speaker 7>we use, uh, is really interesting how that plays out.

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<v Speaker 7>I find your history interesting because the idea that you

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<v Speaker 7>come from the just give me a little bit of backstory.

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<v Speaker 7>You come from the Bible Belt. Do you grow up

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<v Speaker 7>with like like Christian or religious and then get into

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<v Speaker 7>studying religion from that or do you kind of grow.

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<v Speaker 6>Up not religious and then you're trying to learn more

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<v Speaker 3>So I grew up with.

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<v Speaker 8>Like a standard Baptist GOP family. So we were I

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<v Speaker 8>mean medium level serious about Christianity. I mean we weren't like,

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<v Speaker 8>we weren't there every Sunday, but we were, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>pretty consistent going to church. Growing up, as I said,

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<v Speaker 8>raised Southern Baptists, So you know, I was into it,

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<v Speaker 8>I guess as a kid, as a.

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<v Speaker 3>Teenager, not so much.

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<v Speaker 8>In high school, I was just you know, Jason, girls

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<v Speaker 8>and partying and having fun. And then I got a

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<v Speaker 8>little more serious about that about age eighteen nineteen, kind

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<v Speaker 8>of got back into that sphere of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Just again through a lot of.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was gonna say, like, what, what cause was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Mean, I wouldn't a lot of times people have these stories,

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<v Speaker 8>but I was tripping and I saw the double and

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<v Speaker 8>then I fell.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus bro It wasn't like that.

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<v Speaker 8>I did have a bad as the trip that kind

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<v Speaker 8>of like provoked me to start thinking about deeper issues.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm not saying that the asked trip made me

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<v Speaker 8>a Christian, because I was already kind of raised with

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<v Speaker 8>that worldview, but it did kind of get me thinking

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<v Speaker 8>about those bigger questions. And then a few years later,

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<v Speaker 8>I was at college and I just, you know, chose.

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was gonna have to choose something to.

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<v Speaker 8>Major in, and everything was really unappealing, and the only

435
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<v Speaker 8>thing that was was appealing that was appealing to me

436
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<v Speaker 8>at the State University was philosophy. So that's what I chose,

437
00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:48.839
<v Speaker 8>and it worked out well because you know, it overlapped

438
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<v Speaker 8>with a lot of things. So the great thing about

439
00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:52.759
<v Speaker 8>philosophy is that you can do a philosophy of anything. Yeah,

440
00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:55.480
<v Speaker 8>you can do a philosophy of film, the philosophy of comedy,

441
00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:59.960
<v Speaker 8>philosophy of you know whatever. So anyway, that's how I

442
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<v Speaker 8>let into studying that stuff.

443
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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's cool.

444
00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:08.680
<v Speaker 7>So then how do you drink during COVID time? Let's

445
00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:13.039
<v Speaker 7>go to COVID times? What's what's the COVID times?

446
00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:13.160
<v Speaker 6>Like?

447
00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:13.440
<v Speaker 3>For you?

448
00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:17.880
<v Speaker 7>The virus drops. We were getting word that, you know,

449
00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:19.440
<v Speaker 7>this is coming out of China. We're seeing the videos

450
00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:22.640
<v Speaker 7>on Twitter out of China that this is starting.

451
00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:25.759
<v Speaker 6>What's your immediate reaction to that.

452
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<v Speaker 8>I would say since about twenty thirteen or fourteen, I've

453
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<v Speaker 8>maybe even earlier, maybe even twenty eleven or twelve, Like

454
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<v Speaker 8>I've always kind of been on the edge of like thinking, Okay,

455
00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:39.200
<v Speaker 8>they're about to drop this big thing, you know what

456
00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:42.359
<v Speaker 8>I mean, Like we're ever since twenty twelve thirteen, And

457
00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:45.119
<v Speaker 8>that's probably because that's around the time twenty eleven that

458
00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.240
<v Speaker 8>I started doing my blog and doing more podcasts and media.

459
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<v Speaker 8>So you're you're kind of in the game. You're like

460
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<v Speaker 8>ready for Okay, what are they going to do next?

461
00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:56.480
<v Speaker 8>And a lot of people, you know, I was awake to.

462
00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:58.160
<v Speaker 3>A lot of conspiracy stuff, like I said, since about

463
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<v Speaker 3>twenty and two or three.

464
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<v Speaker 8>So I went through the whole Ron Paul era of

465
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:05.119
<v Speaker 8>you know, the libertarian stuff out of Auto, the Fed

466
00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:07.799
<v Speaker 8>twenty seven eight, you know, Tea Party and all that.

467
00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:13.440
<v Speaker 8>So at that time, everybody was thinking economic collapse, and

468
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:15.240
<v Speaker 8>everybody was saying, oh, we got to be preppers, you know,

469
00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:16.200
<v Speaker 8>get be ready for.

470
00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:18.240
<v Speaker 3>The collapse that's coming.

471
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<v Speaker 8>And it was kind of true because we had the

472
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<v Speaker 8>two thousand and eight you know, housing collapse, and that

473
00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.720
<v Speaker 8>was was a kind of collapse. It wasn't like nationwide

474
00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:30.279
<v Speaker 8>road warrior stuff. But and as as you guys know,

475
00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:33.359
<v Speaker 8>that's what led of course to the Bitcoin white paper

476
00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:35.559
<v Speaker 8>and all that. So that that did kind of give

477
00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:38.400
<v Speaker 8>us that partial solution, I guess you could say, to

478
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:41.160
<v Speaker 8>the ills of the world. But by the time the

479
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<v Speaker 8>twenty tens, I was kind of like, like you said,

480
00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:45.799
<v Speaker 8>they're like, what was I looking for?

481
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:46.960
<v Speaker 3>What was on the on the radar?

482
00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:50.160
<v Speaker 8>I was thinking, Okay, every year, it's like, what's the

483
00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:51.440
<v Speaker 8>big thing they're going to drop next?

484
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<v Speaker 3>When's the next nine to eleven? I think is kind

485
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<v Speaker 3>of what we were looking for.

486
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<v Speaker 8>And it was longer than I thought I thought we

487
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<v Speaker 8>would see more kind of crazy stuff going down the

488
00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:04.200
<v Speaker 8>twenty tens. We didn't really and then boom twenty twenty.

489
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<v Speaker 8>I don't think anybody was expecting. Although if we had

490
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<v Speaker 8>been paying attention to the drills and exercises, you know,

491
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:16.279
<v Speaker 8>and the white papers that they had written, we would

492
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.599
<v Speaker 8>have probably had that on the radar. But do you

493
00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:20.720
<v Speaker 8>remember the Illuminati card game or familiar with that?

494
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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, that's back what in the nineties.

495
00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:25.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it did original in the nineties.

496
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<v Speaker 8>I have a copy of a lot of the original

497
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<v Speaker 8>cards that they have since kind of added new ones.

498
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<v Speaker 8>But what I'm getting at is like throughout the twenty tens,

499
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<v Speaker 8>we were all kind of waiting to see, like what

500
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<v Speaker 8>are they going to drop next? Are goin to drop

501
00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:40.440
<v Speaker 8>the fake aliens? Is it going to be a pandemic?

502
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:43.599
<v Speaker 8>Is it going to be an economic collapse a real one?

503
00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:44.480
<v Speaker 6>Is it going to be a war?

504
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<v Speaker 8>And I think you could say, like back in the

505
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<v Speaker 8>Summer of Rage or whatever, that was like a little

506
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<v Speaker 8>one they dropped about, you know, the race stuff and

507
00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 8>the BLM and the riots.

508
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.079
<v Speaker 3>That was all engineered a natural turf, So.

509
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<v Speaker 8>That's that was they threw down that card from the

510
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.680
<v Speaker 8>Illuminati card deck. I don't think anybody twenty twenty that

511
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<v Speaker 8>was expecting the pandemic card to drop, although when it dropped,

512
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.000
<v Speaker 8>everybody was then like, hey, wait a minute. You know,

513
00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:10.759
<v Speaker 8>look at exercise, you know, ev into a one, look

514
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:13.279
<v Speaker 8>at this far As document, look at Clayed X, at

515
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:16.519
<v Speaker 8>Crimson catage, and you know, look at the John Hopkins exercises,

516
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:18.640
<v Speaker 8>et cetera. So that then it turns out, you know,

517
00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:20.839
<v Speaker 8>hindsight is twenty twenty. You see all this stuff that

518
00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:24.240
<v Speaker 8>they did in preparation for this, and you know, if

519
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<v Speaker 8>you've studied the nine to eleven stuff, you know that

520
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:28.839
<v Speaker 8>they always do drills, same with seven to seven in

521
00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:31.400
<v Speaker 8>the UK, there's always drills that are kind of preparation

522
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<v Speaker 8>and the cover of times for the event.

523
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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I.

524
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<v Speaker 8>Think I think it wasn't expected, but at the same time,

525
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:41.400
<v Speaker 8>we were all expecting something. It's just they dropped this

526
00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:46.039
<v Speaker 8>like crazy wax sye op that basically showed half of

527
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<v Speaker 8>the population to be completely retarded.

528
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<v Speaker 3>As the way I view it.

529
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's so interesting, man, because like I'm still seeing

530
00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:56.880
<v Speaker 7>the shit up here. I was working down in Toronto

531
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.279
<v Speaker 7>today and you're still looking at thirty percent of people

532
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 7>running around with Matt Wow, it's fucking nuts. Yeah, Canada,

533
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.680
<v Speaker 7>Like God, we went through it. It's just this idea

534
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 7>of like this polite society if you if you weren't

535
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.160
<v Speaker 7>you know, taking the vax or you were talking anti

536
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.440
<v Speaker 7>vax or anything like that, like you were going.

537
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:20.160
<v Speaker 6>Against the whole society, because that wasn't polite.

538
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 7>Fucking wild. It got real wild up here. Uh Now,

539
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:28.079
<v Speaker 7>what did this do for your image during this time?

540
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:31.079
<v Speaker 7>Because I know for myself being, you know, I'd got

541
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:34.279
<v Speaker 7>down the conspiracy rabbit holes before this that led into

542
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:35.440
<v Speaker 7>some content making.

543
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.079
<v Speaker 6>Had some videos that went big during the beginning of it, that.

544
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.119
<v Speaker 7>Led to a bunch of accounts getting banned and kind

545
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.720
<v Speaker 7>of having to restart again. How did the COVID times

546
00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.160
<v Speaker 7>work for you? Did your image just kind of grow?

547
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.480
<v Speaker 7>And did is this where the boom kind of happened

548
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:49.680
<v Speaker 7>for you?

549
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.440
<v Speaker 8>We got a huge boom during that period, I think,

550
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.519
<v Speaker 8>as everybody can probably surmise, because everybody who was basically

551
00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.359
<v Speaker 8>spending all their time online, so my audio the ends

552
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 8>probably doubled in that time, My income probably doubled or

553
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:08.440
<v Speaker 8>tripled in that time, and that was all kind of surprising.

554
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:09.599
<v Speaker 3>Again, nobody expected that.

555
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:12.599
<v Speaker 8>I think everybody had this very negative attitude, which was

556
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:14.839
<v Speaker 8>appropriate because it was so crazy and such a dark

557
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:15.319
<v Speaker 8>sy op.

558
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:16.519
<v Speaker 3>However, for us.

559
00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:19.720
<v Speaker 8>It was like like this was like our best you know,

560
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:24.519
<v Speaker 8>years of audience wise and money wise, So it is

561
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 8>a blessing in disguise, I guess, I mean, I'm not.

562
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:31.000
<v Speaker 8>I didn't enjoy that time period. Obviously, it sucked, even

563
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 8>even if you lived in a place that was you know,

564
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:36.119
<v Speaker 8>a red state that was pretty open, which is where

565
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:36.799
<v Speaker 8>we were at the time.

566
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:38.559
<v Speaker 3>We were in Tennessee at that time, and.

567
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 8>I don't I don't think in my hometown where I lived, like,

568
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 8>I don't think I ever wore a mask.

569
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:46.799
<v Speaker 3>I can't recall during that entire period.

570
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:48.720
<v Speaker 8>The only time I ever had to wear a mask

571
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 8>in Tennessee is if you go to like downtown Nashville,

572
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 8>where you know, in the in the city city you

573
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 8>would find some you know, shithead liberal loon that would

574
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 8>scream at you at you know, whole foods or whatever.

575
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:03.640
<v Speaker 8>That's the only place I ever encountered any of that. So,

576
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.920
<v Speaker 8>if you know, for me, life didn't really change except

577
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 8>that there.

578
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't really any restaurants to eat out.

579
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.200
<v Speaker 8>That was the one sucky part because the place where

580
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:14.880
<v Speaker 8>I loved doesn't really have any good restaurants. It's like

581
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.640
<v Speaker 8>a bunch of shitty It's a bunch of shitty, greasy

582
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:22.200
<v Speaker 8>oil seed oil you know, fatty Southern bullshit food restaurants

583
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 8>that don't have good food. So you have to drive

584
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.200
<v Speaker 8>basically to Nashville if you want to eat somewhere good,

585
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:29.680
<v Speaker 8>and uh, anywhere you go in Nashville it is like

586
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.000
<v Speaker 8>you know, COVID and for a long time there was

587
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:32.640
<v Speaker 8>no restaurant.

588
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 3>Everything was shut down. But so I know, I mean,

589
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:36.599
<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of people had a lot worse

590
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:38.119
<v Speaker 3>than me. So I'm not trying to bitch and moan.

591
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:38.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying.

592
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.359
<v Speaker 8>I'm just saying my personal experience was it actually wasn't

593
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 8>very bad. I mean, it's almost like there wasn't a

594
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:49.160
<v Speaker 8>quote pandemic. There was just all these people talking about,

595
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 8>you know, their blue cities and their shitty states being

596
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 8>basically dystopian nightmares, and for us, it was pretty it

597
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:02.279
<v Speaker 8>was pretty uh pretty rad actually, I mean, but I

598
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.880
<v Speaker 8>mean it was already from home, so like everybody else

599
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:06.599
<v Speaker 8>is like that, they'll work from home, Like dude, I've

600
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 8>been working from home since twenty fourteen doing conspiracy stuff online.

601
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 8>So I already worked from home. I already you know,

602
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 8>cooked my own food.

603
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:15.640
<v Speaker 3>We don't we don't eat out that much.

604
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.000
<v Speaker 8>Because most restaurants you know, use seed oils and shit,

605
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:20.960
<v Speaker 8>and it messes up my stomach. So anyway, I'm rambling

606
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:24.000
<v Speaker 8>just to say that, you know, in a weird way.

607
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 3>Actually code was a huge boost for us.

608
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:27.359
<v Speaker 8>It kind of went to That was around the time too,

609
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 8>when I started hosting in four Wars. So twenty twenty

610
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 8>was I think the first year that they asked me

611
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 8>to host and come on. So so yeah, for us,

612
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.319
<v Speaker 8>it was it was just the opposite about ironically.

613
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 7>Uh, I would like to get some moufa from you.

614
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 6>Where are we at with this the Info War sale?

615
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:51.359
<v Speaker 7>And do you have any expectations of what's going to

616
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 7>happen with with Alex Jones and in fours?

617
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:56.559
<v Speaker 8>Well, as we said, it's kind of like this this

618
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 8>ongoing circus because it kind of flips back and forth.

619
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 8>You know, I don't I'm not privy to any inside

620
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:05.160
<v Speaker 8>information per se. I mean I talked to Darry the

621
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:08.079
<v Speaker 8>producer often. I talked to Alex a little bit, But

622
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 8>I don't know any inside deats except that except what

623
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 8>Alex just kind of puts up publicly. So you know,

624
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:18.640
<v Speaker 8>I think they're just kind of waiting to see at

625
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 8>the next hearing what the jes Des sides about the

626
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 8>scandal that happened last week. So yeah, my feelings are

627
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 8>that it's swinging back in the direction of Alex.

628
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:33.000
<v Speaker 3>That's the way it looks. And it just hit me today.

629
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<v Speaker 8>That what the actual cunning plan was with that gigantic,

630
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:41.880
<v Speaker 8>you know, billion dollar thing, it wasn't even about the

631
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.039
<v Speaker 8>billion dollars. What I realized today was that the reason

632
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 8>they did that was that if you remember that one

633
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.680
<v Speaker 8>lawyer came on and said, if you're a supporter of

634
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 8>Alex or Info Wars, you should realize that any money

635
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:55.960
<v Speaker 8>that you give is going to be going to, you know,

636
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.160
<v Speaker 8>the people who want the Sandy Hook people. And what

637
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 8>that was designed to do was actually destroy the economic

638
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 8>potential of in force continuing, because everybody who loves Alex

639
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 8>Jones is therefore not going to give any money to

640
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.400
<v Speaker 8>Alex because they think, then, well, I'm not gonna give

641
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 8>it to Alex because the money is going to go

642
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.359
<v Speaker 8>to these families that are suing Alex. So it's a

643
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:20.720
<v Speaker 8>very clever way to attempt to economically emasculate info wars.

644
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.039
<v Speaker 8>But whether that's going to happen, I don't know. It's

645
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 8>just really I guess it's depending upon the judge, but

646
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 8>it is it's good news. I guess to hear that

647
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 8>Alex is going to you know, take it back and

648
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:31.480
<v Speaker 8>counter suit and stuff.

649
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was reading today about the countersuit against the

650
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:35.920
<v Speaker 7>Sandy Hook families.

651
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 6>That's crazy.

652
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm so intrigued to see how it all plays

653
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:43.119
<v Speaker 7>out like it just seems. It seems to be there's

654
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:48.920
<v Speaker 7>there's all these conspiracies from the elites to like whether

655
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 7>it's against Alex, whether it's against Trump, small content creators

656
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:55.119
<v Speaker 7>getting fucked like.

657
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:59.559
<v Speaker 6>You name it. The way they can manipulate the court

658
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.240
<v Speaker 6>system them to do this kind of shit is wild.

659
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:03.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

660
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 8>I think that was an overlooked arena that a lot

661
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 8>of because a lot of people in our domain, when

662
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 8>we look at, you know, the tyranny that's coming, the technocracy,

663
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 8>the dystopia, the means and the surveillance and all that,

664
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.079
<v Speaker 8>we're always thinking that it's going to be this government

665
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 8>boot on our neck. It's going to be you know,

666
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 8>un troops, it's going to be this or that. And

667
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 8>we missed these sort of subtle ways. For example, the

668
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 8>whole COVID crisis, like that was all the New World

669
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 8>Order basically sliding into the back door of the medical system,

670
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 8>you know, and health. So that's not the arena everybody expected.

671
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 8>You know, you're expecting police state people busting on your door.

672
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:45.000
<v Speaker 3>No, they're doing it through.

673
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 8>Like the Boomer medicares you know, medicine system and tricking

674
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 8>all the Boomers into thinking that, you know, if you

675
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 8>wear a mask, you're not going to get you know.

676
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 3>Throat aids or whatever they thought it was.

677
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.119
<v Speaker 8>And then at the same time, like you know, when

678
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 8>it comes to uh, these other situations, it's like they

679
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:07.039
<v Speaker 8>can slip through these things that you don't expect. And

680
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 8>that's the you know, compromise of the judiciary. I remember

681
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.480
<v Speaker 8>one conspiracy book ever talking about the compromising of the

682
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.799
<v Speaker 8>you know, the judicial system. And so that's not even

683
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.200
<v Speaker 8>something on anybody's radar, you know what I mean.

684
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 3>So that was a big one that we missed.

685
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.039
<v Speaker 7>I think, well, it's funny because I didn't even think

686
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:28.640
<v Speaker 7>anything about the judicial system until there was the idea

687
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.599
<v Speaker 7>of Democrats started coming out saying that Trump was going

688
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:34.319
<v Speaker 7>to stack the Supreme Court. Yeah, and it was like

689
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 7>every time about yeah, it was like, oh, that's fucking interesting,

690
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 7>Like there is a game going on to the to

691
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 7>the just the justice system. Obviously we you know, having

692
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:51.480
<v Speaker 7>Biden in, Uh, it almost went the other way. Yeah,

693
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.079
<v Speaker 7>crazy to think that it feels like every level of

694
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:58.640
<v Speaker 7>government and it has been it has been corrupted.

695
00:33:58.680 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's every area of society.

696
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.000
<v Speaker 8>Like you know, if you go back and read a

697
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.039
<v Speaker 8>lot of these technocrats and the older elite writings, which

698
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 8>is you know, one of the things that we kind

699
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.400
<v Speaker 8>of pioneered on my channel was you know, not just theorizing,

700
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.480
<v Speaker 8>which which I'm fine with. It's it's there's nothing wrong

701
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 8>with with theorizing within reason, but to actually go into

702
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 8>the documents and writings of the elite, which we've lectured

703
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:21.599
<v Speaker 8>through I think in the last six or seven years

704
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.599
<v Speaker 8>about sixty or seventy of those documents. So this is

705
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.400
<v Speaker 8>like the writings of you know, Brazienski and Kissinger and

706
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.960
<v Speaker 8>Rockefellers quickly on and on on. There's a whole you know,

707
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 8>dozens of these texts and white papers and what you

708
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 8>start to notice is that the plan was was full

709
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:43.239
<v Speaker 8>spectrum dominance. I think that was the term that Rumsfeld

710
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.239
<v Speaker 8>chose after nine to eleven, was, Oh, you know, to

711
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 8>combat the enemies of America, we're going to have to

712
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.639
<v Speaker 8>plan and strategize for quote full spectrum dominance. And that

713
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:58.360
<v Speaker 8>became the Pentagon's operating model. And that makes perfect sense

714
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.760
<v Speaker 8>when you look at for example, remember during COVID World

715
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.440
<v Speaker 8>Economic Forum put out this website that you could sign

716
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.159
<v Speaker 8>up for, and when you sign up for it, you

717
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 8>got you got this like graphic scenery that would explain

718
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 8>to you all of the different areas of society that

719
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 8>they intended to remake with.

720
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 3>What they wanted out of the COVID stuff.

721
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.199
<v Speaker 8>And it was every area of life like they want

722
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:32.199
<v Speaker 8>to remake and re reshape, you know, education, science, religion, economics, education, Yeah,

723
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.400
<v Speaker 8>I mean like every religion, religion, church, like every area

724
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 8>of society, all the way down to you know, like insurance.

725
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 8>You know, insurance being based on you know, tracking carbon credits, surveillance,

726
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 8>like just just crazy stuff. So and that's the thing

727
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 8>is like when you look at these books from hundred

728
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.360
<v Speaker 8>years ago and then you look at the recent statements

729
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 8>from the same power structure.

730
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 3>It's the exact same plan.

731
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:57.679
<v Speaker 6>So this is a good there's a good segue.

732
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:03.480
<v Speaker 7>Actually, the power structure we'll call that the they, and

733
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 7>we all use this term day.

734
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 6>They doing this, They are doing that. Who is the

735
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 6>day to you?

736
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 8>So they is a coterie, a cabal of elite families.

737
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 8>It is the founders of the Federal Reserve banking system,

738
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 8>which based that on the older Rothschild fiat banking model

739
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.360
<v Speaker 8>that was used in Europe and in the UK. That

740
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 8>is the model the Bank of England for example. So

741
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:36.920
<v Speaker 8>in my view it is the mainly the Rothschild's Roads

742
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 8>Milner elite circles, and those elite circles have a specific

743
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 8>technique and model of banking that's kind of the as

744
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 8>we said, this sort of the center of the egg

745
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.559
<v Speaker 8>or the center of the onion. And then what they

746
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 8>do is they have the sort of concentric circles outside

747
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:56.000
<v Speaker 8>of that that they also run in control that include

748
00:36:56.159 --> 00:37:00.239
<v Speaker 8>nation states, corporations. I'm not saying they control everything and everybody,

749
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.039
<v Speaker 8>but the model that they have of control, which is

750
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 8>kind of what we call this deep state model, which

751
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:11.280
<v Speaker 8>is really just a breakaway intelligence bureaucracy that runs things,

752
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 8>and they're the ones that kind of in a public

753
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 8>private way, hidden in plain sight way, they kind of

754
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 8>tell the government what to do. So they elected officials

755
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 8>have a very limited amount of power, I would say,

756
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 8>and they actually answer to these people who you know,

757
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.440
<v Speaker 8>make up like the intelligence agencies, the heads of think tanks,

758
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:35.679
<v Speaker 8>the heads of you know NGOs. Those people are really

759
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:40.320
<v Speaker 8>the ones kind of given the politicians the talking points.

760
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 8>And so this would be like Brookings Institute, Ran Corporation,

761
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 8>it would be into these like Council in Foreign Relations,

762
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 8>Trilateral Commission, Builderberg Group. Those are all the steering committees

763
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.800
<v Speaker 8>that actually kind of have the power and call the shots.

764
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 8>And then the politicians typically are king to beholden to

765
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:56.880
<v Speaker 8>to them.

766
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:01.320
<v Speaker 3>But the public doesn't really know this, theyn't ever really

767
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:02.760
<v Speaker 3>figure it out. They think that, you.

768
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.360
<v Speaker 8>Know, it's the it's the boobs in Washington, and we

769
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.719
<v Speaker 8>gotta throw them out, get the bad apples out of Washington.

770
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not Washington, it's the people that own Washington, right,

771
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.760
<v Speaker 3>So that's how I believe that they is.

772
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.599
<v Speaker 8>And so one hundred years ago, one hundred and fifty

773
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 8>years ago, it was the people who the Rothchilds around

774
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.159
<v Speaker 8>the British Empire. Well, the British empire kind of waned

775
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 8>and died, and this same coterie, this royal society, elite

776
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:33.559
<v Speaker 8>coterie of the Fabian socialists in the circles of Rossfeldt

777
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.760
<v Speaker 8>really just kind of brought the American empire back under

778
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 8>its sway. I don't mean the British empire. I mean

779
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 8>under this elite.

780
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Cabal this sway. And so that's the same.

781
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 8>People that are still in charge and still running things.

782
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 8>They aligned themselves with the powerful industrial banking families in America,

783
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 8>the Rockefellers, the CARNEGIESE Morgan's, JP Morgan, the Vanderbilts, Oppenheimer's,

784
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.639
<v Speaker 8>all those people. All those families are the American oligarchs

785
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:06.000
<v Speaker 8>that have kind of been in control together with banking interests,

786
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 8>the Warburg's, the Shifts and others. Coon and Lobe and

787
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 8>these are all kind of these are all mentioned kind

788
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 8>of in the public, you know, big geopolitical This isn't

789
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 8>actually conspiracy stuff. This is like Quigly, Brazenski, et cetera.

790
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.639
<v Speaker 8>They all admit this. So that's who runs things, and

791
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.679
<v Speaker 8>that's who's really been running things. If you want a

792
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:29.320
<v Speaker 8>more recent example, through their entities like Davos, like World

793
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.760
<v Speaker 8>Economic Forum, Well that's Davos, or you know Bilderberg or

794
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 8>you know Rockfeller Foundation, et cetera. That's who was running COVID,

795
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.119
<v Speaker 8>was the CIA in the Rockfeller Foundation.

796
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:42.960
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, so if I'm thinking head of the snake,

797
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.119
<v Speaker 7>you know, I hear names like a like a Klose Schwab,

798
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 7>a George Soros.

799
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:50.440
<v Speaker 6>Where where are they?

800
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 3>They called them heads of the snake. I mean both

801
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:53.840
<v Speaker 3>of them were.

802
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 8>They were actually recruited, right, So, like Soros was essentially

803
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 8>during the rag Era working with the CIA to open

804
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:10.039
<v Speaker 8>up Eastern Bloc countries through the gene sharp Color Revolution stuff.

805
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 3>So that's actually shual.

806
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 8>Soros was really kind of making his bones during seventies

807
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.800
<v Speaker 8>and eighties, and they were pushing for all this sort

808
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.079
<v Speaker 8>of you know, neoliberal economic stuff in the former Soviet

809
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:26.400
<v Speaker 8>Bloc countries to integrate those countries into the IMF World

810
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.360
<v Speaker 8>Bank model because they were prior, you know, previously not

811
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.039
<v Speaker 8>and that doesn't make the Soviets good, by the way,

812
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.119
<v Speaker 8>I think the Soviets were just another kind of bad guy.

813
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:36.840
<v Speaker 8>But we recently, for example, covered some of the texts

814
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 8>from the kissinger of France, Jacques Attalie, and I didn't

815
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:45.239
<v Speaker 8>realize that. In his nineteen ninety one book, I think

816
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.000
<v Speaker 8>it's called Millennium.

817
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:50.679
<v Speaker 3>The subtitles something about actually about the new world order.

818
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 8>In that book he says, well, the Soviet you know,

819
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:56.559
<v Speaker 8>union just collapsed, and I've been appointed to be the

820
00:40:56.599 --> 00:41:01.760
<v Speaker 8>head of the ECB, the European Bank, to restructure these

821
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:04.400
<v Speaker 8>Soviet block countries, to put them under the IMF model,

822
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.079
<v Speaker 8>in other words, to put them in the debt slave

823
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 8>fiat model. So, I mean there's an example of operatives

824
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 8>right there, you know, kissing deer Brazenski shakatt the Lee

825
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 8>is literally saying, I'm an operative for the for the

826
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.840
<v Speaker 8>Western banking structure to basically, you know, in debt these

827
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:25.119
<v Speaker 8>former Soviet countries in in in perpetual debt model slavery.

828
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:29.559
<v Speaker 8>In that book, that's just one example. But yeah, it's

829
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.840
<v Speaker 8>just a bunch of banking and corporate elite. And yes,

830
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:36.599
<v Speaker 8>Zionis have a large sway in that in that field,

831
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 8>they're not the totality of it, but they definitely have

832
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:39.679
<v Speaker 8>a lot of sway.

833
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 3>And a lot of power.

834
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 7>Okay, another good segue here, because uh, international monetary fund. Yeah,

835
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 7>trying to do this, will loan you billion dollars. Hey,

836
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.239
<v Speaker 7>El Salvador, you want to buy some bitcoin, We're not

837
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:57.639
<v Speaker 7>going to give you that billion dollar loan. El Salvador went, okay, fine,

838
00:41:57.719 --> 00:41:58.920
<v Speaker 7>We're just gonna keep buying bitcoin.

839
00:41:59.000 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

840
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 8>The middle I was, they did the right thing, right,

841
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:03.639
<v Speaker 8>middle finger to them, right, one hundred percent.

842
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:05.199
<v Speaker 6>You look at our south of today and look at

843
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:09.119
<v Speaker 6>bitcoin price. I'm sure they're doing real well.

844
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 7>How do you think bitcoin fucks with the geopolitics and

845
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.000
<v Speaker 7>this power structure?

846
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:20.320
<v Speaker 8>I still think, you know, in twenty fourteen. Actually, you

847
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.960
<v Speaker 8>know I heard about bitcoin in twenty eleven or twelve

848
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:26.280
<v Speaker 8>because I used to watch Kaiser Report and Max Kaiser.

849
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 8>I remember watching the episode.

850
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 3>I bet Kind's sketch it. I bet kind of it's

851
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.239
<v Speaker 3>a monetary store of value. If you ature it's a

852
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:33.880
<v Speaker 3>black hole.

853
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:38.320
<v Speaker 8>I bet kind is a to the suicide bankers of

854
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.239
<v Speaker 8>Jamie Dimond. I don't know if you remember maxk but

855
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:45.159
<v Speaker 8>I was an avid listener to Kaiser, And actually it

856
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 8>was around twenty ten eleven that I was first getting

857
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:51.199
<v Speaker 8>Actually the two thousand and eight housing crisis is what

858
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 8>actually what got me interested in economics because I knew

859
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 8>about the Federal Reserve being a scam and all that

860
00:42:56.199 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 8>prior to two thousand and eight. But I had not

861
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:02.880
<v Speaker 8>really focused on economics. I was familiar with some of

862
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 8>the you know, Austrian school. I'd read a bunch of

863
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:07.760
<v Speaker 8>an Ran stuff, so I kind of had the basics

864
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 8>of like, you know, objectivism, libertarian ethics, practice and all that,

865
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 8>but it wasn't like a main focus of mine. I

866
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.559
<v Speaker 8>was more interested in secret societies and syops and.

867
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:17.159
<v Speaker 3>That kind of stuff.

868
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:19.679
<v Speaker 8>But the two thousand and eight housing crisis happened, and

869
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:21.800
<v Speaker 8>I remember I was watching a lot of Peter Schiff

870
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 8>videos at the time. I was listening to podcast. He

871
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 8>used to come on Alex all the time. I remember

872
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.719
<v Speaker 8>I read two Peter Shift books back in two thousand

873
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 8>and eight, and I bought Thomas Woods's book about the

874
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.199
<v Speaker 8>housing collapse. So around that time I was getting more

875
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I was wholly broke, by the way, can

876
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 8>I have any money? But I was just getting interested

877
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 8>in economics because I started thinking like, well, why am.

878
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:49.119
<v Speaker 3>I broke as hell?

879
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Like?

880
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I work hard. I you know, I'm not

881
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 3>like blowing money, but I'm super bros.

882
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 8>So I would just wanted to solve the economic situation,

883
00:43:57.639 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Speaker 8>mainly for myself. And then I also was interested in

884
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:04.079
<v Speaker 8>and you know, the country and the housing crisis and

885
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.679
<v Speaker 8>all that, because I remember thinking will I ever be

886
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 8>able to have a house?

887
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:08.679
<v Speaker 3>It is like is this going to be?

888
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 8>This is destroying the entire housing market, Like what's going

889
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:13.440
<v Speaker 8>to happen? And so I read those books and that

890
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 8>got me interested in gold. So you know, I already

891
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 8>again I knew about the federserve being a scam, but

892
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.079
<v Speaker 8>I didn't really understand that. You know what's the best

893
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.719
<v Speaker 8>heads Well, all of those you know, Austrian economics books,

894
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:26.840
<v Speaker 8>they all just basically tell you to buy gold.

895
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:28.280
<v Speaker 3>And Peter Shipp tells you buy gold.

896
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:32.039
<v Speaker 8>And I'm actually thankful for that because I did have

897
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.000
<v Speaker 8>a phase where I started saving my money in about

898
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.239
<v Speaker 8>two thousand and eight, and I actually bought my first

899
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.440
<v Speaker 8>bar of gold, well not a bar ounce of gold

900
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:39.880
<v Speaker 8>from Alex.

901
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:40.800
<v Speaker 3>I remember that in two.

902
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 8>Two thousand and eight, seven or eight, I bought an

903
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:47.480
<v Speaker 8>ounce of gold from Alex because Ted Anderson used to

904
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.239
<v Speaker 8>sell gold in Alex's show. And I remember I was thought,

905
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:51.800
<v Speaker 8>I was like, oh man, I'm so smart, Like I'm

906
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 8>actually saving my money now, like because I have this

907
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:57.320
<v Speaker 8>one ounce of gold it's worth like nine hundred dollars

908
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 8>or whatever it was. But you know what funny about

909
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:03.840
<v Speaker 8>that is that was actually that was actually a good

910
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 8>I was actually a good phase to go through, like

911
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:09.679
<v Speaker 8>because it taught me, Okay, I know this fiats crap,

912
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:12.199
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna start saving. It's got to be converted over

913
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 8>into gold. So I just kept buying gold and silver.

914
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I never had like a lot, but I

915
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:18.920
<v Speaker 3>was just basically using that as my savings account.

916
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 8>And then about yeah, and you're not You're not buying

917
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:23.480
<v Speaker 8>golden silver stock.

918
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:24.639
<v Speaker 6>You were just buying, you.

919
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Said the bar just straight up gold.

920
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.000
<v Speaker 8>Because in twenty nineteen, I actually took all of that

921
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 8>gold and silver.

922
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:33.840
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't whole, it was about thirteen thousand dollars.

923
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 8>And I went and sold it all to the to

924
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.599
<v Speaker 8>my gold dude and bought bitcoin. And I remember I

925
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:42.039
<v Speaker 8>remember having the conversation with the with the guy.

926
00:45:42.159 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 3>He was like, I don't know, man, that bitcoin, that's

927
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of risky. You sure you want to sell all

928
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 3>this gold. I'm like, yep, I'm sure.

929
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 8>And I remember at the time bitcoin was about ten thousand,

930
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.039
<v Speaker 8>so I actually got one whole BTC out of that.

931
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:56.880
<v Speaker 3>In twenty nineteen or maybe twenty eighteen.

932
00:45:56.920 --> 00:46:01.400
<v Speaker 8>But anyway, long story short, I'm I'm rambling, but so

933
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:04.320
<v Speaker 8>go back to rewind back to twenty eleven twelve. I

934
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.199
<v Speaker 8>remember Max KUIs are talking about bitcoin, but I just

935
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.159
<v Speaker 8>didn't understand what it was. And I remember I did

936
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.639
<v Speaker 8>my first public event. I spoke at a conference called

937
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.440
<v Speaker 8>Secret Space Program Conference, and you can still find that

938
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 8>electure on YouTube's. It's pretty good breakdown of like esoteric

939
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.039
<v Speaker 8>Hollywood stuff. I wasn't there to do anything about space

940
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.119
<v Speaker 8>or aliens. I was actually debunking aliens. But there's this

941
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 8>dude that came to the conference and he was all

942
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.320
<v Speaker 8>about bitcoin, and he was just like, oh dude, you

943
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.480
<v Speaker 8>got to get bitcoin. This was like twenty fourteen, and

944
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:35.159
<v Speaker 8>I'm like, well, I've been hearing about this since twenty

945
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.239
<v Speaker 8>eleven from Max Kaiser, But you know, I was like,

946
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 8>you know, you libertarians are like so idealistic.

947
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 3>This was never going to catch on. They're going to

948
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 3>shut this down.

949
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:43.239
<v Speaker 6>You know.

950
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.400
<v Speaker 8>I had all the same food everybody has at the beginning,

951
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.159
<v Speaker 8>and I was like, this is cia andsa invention.

952
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:50.159
<v Speaker 3>It's a way to get you into electronic currency.

953
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 8>Blah blah blah, all the same food, right, And I

954
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 8>remember I had another buddy who was a big fan

955
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.639
<v Speaker 8>of bitcoin. Ironically didn't buy it, but he was just

956
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.079
<v Speaker 8>like super into the philosoph and he was studying it

957
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:03.800
<v Speaker 8>and he started arguing with me, and we had these

958
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:06.679
<v Speaker 8>arguments back and forth for about a year. And then

959
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:10.760
<v Speaker 8>I remember in twenty sixteen seventeen, I started noticing it

960
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.320
<v Speaker 8>going up and I was still broke as hell, and

961
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:16.519
<v Speaker 8>I remember thinking, all right, I've got a couple thousand

962
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.000
<v Speaker 8>dollars and I just saw a bitcoin go from like

963
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.599
<v Speaker 8>I don't know, eighteen hundred to twenty five hundred or something,

964
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.840
<v Speaker 8>and I remember thinking I could have at least made

965
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:27.679
<v Speaker 8>a little bit of money if i'd had some. So

966
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.079
<v Speaker 8>I went through this huge hassle. My bank was a

967
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 8>nightmare because they thought it was a scam. They were

968
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:35.639
<v Speaker 8>like this hitting legal, and yes, it is not illegal

969
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 8>in Tennessee.

970
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I can buy bitcoin if I want to.

971
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 8>And to me, like three days of arguing with my

972
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:44.599
<v Speaker 8>stupid bank before they let me actually buy bitcoin, and

973
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 8>I just started stacking at that time. I'm not going

974
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:51.239
<v Speaker 8>to say how much I have, but you know, we've

975
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:53.880
<v Speaker 8>done really well with that. It's kind of it's gonna

976
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 8>it's really been the main source of income for us.

977
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:57.599
<v Speaker 8>I mean, we do well with the other stuff, with

978
00:47:57.639 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 8>the book and the website and all that.

979
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.159
<v Speaker 3>But it's kind of like the hedge, I guess you

980
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:03.960
<v Speaker 3>could say, so, yeah.

981
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:06.039
<v Speaker 8>I mean I think for me, and not just because

982
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 8>of the personal you know, positives, but like, it teaches

983
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.960
<v Speaker 8>you humility, it teaches you to be objective, it teaches

984
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:17.639
<v Speaker 8>you to be to save, it teaches you long term

985
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.719
<v Speaker 8>value propositions, a lot of the stuff that gold would

986
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.800
<v Speaker 8>teach you. But I think bitcoin teaches it better than

987
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 8>gold does because gold is just like slow motion, right,

988
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:27.639
<v Speaker 8>It's like, oh, I've.

989
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Saved gold for ten years, I made ten percent. Wow,

990
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean maybe more in the last ten years.

991
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:36.880
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, I really think it's genuinely, as a long

992
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.119
<v Speaker 8>ass answer, sorry for your question, I do think that

993
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 8>it is a legitimate solution. It's certainly the best possible

994
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 8>solution to the monetary problems of the world. I mean,

995
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if anything in this world is ever

996
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.320
<v Speaker 8>going to be quote perfect. There's no silver bullet, but

997
00:48:52.960 --> 00:49:00.119
<v Speaker 8>it's definitely the supreme best case scenario for solving the

998
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 8>economic problems.

999
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:05.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I got so, I got two questions within this.

1000
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.320
<v Speaker 7>You mentioned like a coup from a very similar journey.

1001
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.400
<v Speaker 7>You know, I find gold, I find silver, kind of

1002
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:18.719
<v Speaker 7>anti bitcoin in the beginning with magic Internet money and

1003
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:24.679
<v Speaker 7>I want nothing to do with that. That so when

1004
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:28.199
<v Speaker 7>you see, you see Trump originally is kind of anti bitcoin,

1005
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 7>anti Uh, that pivot has happened in the last year

1006
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:35.760
<v Speaker 7>or so. What do you think causes that pivot within

1007
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 7>Trump himself and within his supporter base.

1008
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:44.400
<v Speaker 8>Well, I think there was a probably a series of factors.

1009
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 8>I think that the first crack in the wall was

1010
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:53.960
<v Speaker 8>probably that Max Kaiser, you know, used to come on

1011
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:56.400
<v Speaker 8>Alex all the time and was talking about bitcoin for

1012
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:59.599
<v Speaker 8>so long. And I would say, actually, probably Max is

1013
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:02.280
<v Speaker 8>the one that convinced me first that even over my

1014
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 8>buddy's arguments, because I was actually started listening to a

1015
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.360
<v Speaker 8>bunch of Max's show in interviews after I was arguing

1016
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 8>with my buddy about bitcoin, because I wanted to hear,

1017
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 8>you know, what the arguments were, because I was going

1018
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:14.519
<v Speaker 8>to refute it. I remember I even wrote like in

1019
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:18.639
<v Speaker 8>twenty fourteen, like a long article against bitcoin, and I

1020
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:20.800
<v Speaker 8>was so wrong. So that was one of the one

1021
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.000
<v Speaker 8>of the few cases I admit where I'm joking. I've

1022
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.840
<v Speaker 8>been wrong many times, but in the last ten years,

1023
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 8>that was one of my biggest errors, was my twenty

1024
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:30.920
<v Speaker 8>fourteen anti crypto article.

1025
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:34.199
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so I watched a bunch of Max Kais.

1026
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 8>So Max Kaiser I think had a huge influence on

1027
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 8>changing Alex's mind because Alex was kind of so averse

1028
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 8>to it as well.

1029
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:44.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was like not against it, but not

1030
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 3>for it. He was just kind of like, I just

1031
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 3>don't know. This just seems like it seems like the

1032
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:49.239
<v Speaker 3>money to leave. I just don't get it on.

1033
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:53.840
<v Speaker 8>And then after a while, when you know, somebody sent

1034
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:58.239
<v Speaker 8>Alex that nine million dollar bitcoin donation that I think

1035
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.920
<v Speaker 8>definitely showed Alex that this is like the money of

1036
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.920
<v Speaker 8>freedom right liberty money, and uh so that saved in

1037
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:08.239
<v Speaker 8>fo wars at that time, and that convinced him. That

1038
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 8>probably then helped to because there was a close connection

1039
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 8>between you know, Alex and Roger Stone and Trump right,

1040
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.800
<v Speaker 8>so that there's they communicate often. So that probably this

1041
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:25.760
<v Speaker 8>is my speculation, that probably helped get Roger Stone thinking

1042
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:28.960
<v Speaker 8>about the importance of bitcoin in this election in crypto.

1043
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1044
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:33.039
<v Speaker 3>Then of course RFK was a big bitcoin supporter.

1045
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 8>He made that a very crucial topic in the in

1046
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:37.719
<v Speaker 8>the election.

1047
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Talked about all the time. Uh.

1048
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:42.519
<v Speaker 8>And then you had, of course Michael Sailor being so

1049
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:43.800
<v Speaker 8>vocal and everywhere.

1050
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:44.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1051
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:46.920
<v Speaker 8>I remember it was a big deal when Tucker about

1052
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:50.000
<v Speaker 8>a year ago. Remember Tucker had Michael Sailor on for

1053
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 8>like a two hour interview, and that opened a lot

1054
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:56.360
<v Speaker 8>of boomer's eyes because I shared that interview with all

1055
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:58.960
<v Speaker 8>my boomer relatives. And even though I've been telling them

1056
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:02.119
<v Speaker 8>about bitcoinsince twenties seventeen. If you know how boomers are,

1057
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:04.920
<v Speaker 8>like boomers are never going to listen to anything you

1058
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:08.639
<v Speaker 8>say until another Boomer or Fox News says it. It's

1059
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:11.119
<v Speaker 8>like even if it's shit that you literally said ten

1060
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.119
<v Speaker 8>years ago, like they're not going to believe it until.

1061
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.079
<v Speaker 6>You know, Well, I saw Tucker on Fox saying it.

1062
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's true.

1063
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:19.599
<v Speaker 3>It's like, Mom, I told you that ten years ago, right.

1064
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.599
<v Speaker 3>So I think that was a huge pivot.

1065
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.119
<v Speaker 8>All the evangelism that Sailor did and then putting his

1066
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.280
<v Speaker 8>money where his mouth is, with all the money that

1067
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 8>he put into it.

1068
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:30.119
<v Speaker 3>We shouldn't.

1069
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I'm obviously not a fan of black rock,

1070
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:35.519
<v Speaker 8>but we probably can't overlook the power and influence that

1071
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 8>blackrock has, so blackrock probably had.

1072
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 3>A role in normalizing it.

1073
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.679
<v Speaker 8>Then of course we had the ETFs in January, which

1074
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.960
<v Speaker 8>you know, that's institutional acceptance. So anyway, long story short,

1075
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.000
<v Speaker 8>I think those are probably all factors in what changed

1076
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:53.360
<v Speaker 8>Trump's mind. And then probably when Trump realized, with you know,

1077
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:57.079
<v Speaker 8>NFTs and his own cryptos or whatever, he could make money,

1078
00:52:57.079 --> 00:52:58.400
<v Speaker 8>that's probably a factor as well.

1079
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.880
<v Speaker 7>I'm glad you because there's part of me that just

1080
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:04.760
<v Speaker 7>likes to think that, you know, Baron gets into the

1081
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:08.000
<v Speaker 7>airboat dropping an NFT collection, he drops it, sees the wallet,

1082
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:09.239
<v Speaker 7>and goes, oh shit.

1083
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:10.360
<v Speaker 6>This is yeah money.

1084
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:16.360
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I'll tell you something that we had a

1085
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.360
<v Speaker 8>unfortunate incident not too long ago with me mean points

1086
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.519
<v Speaker 8>where I know everybody has one of these stories, but

1087
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 8>this one's a little bit embarrassing because I woke up

1088
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.159
<v Speaker 8>one day and Jamie and I were talking about mean

1089
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:33.400
<v Speaker 8>coins and and I'm not a big like mean coin

1090
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:37.199
<v Speaker 8>d gen or whatever, but I'll play around with a

1091
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:38.440
<v Speaker 8>little bit of money here and there in a mean

1092
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:43.519
<v Speaker 8>cooin for fun, and we were talking about peanut because

1093
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:44.639
<v Speaker 8>Jamie noticed.

1094
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 3>That that was everywhere.

1095
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:49.119
<v Speaker 8>This is so crazy that so now we didn't lose money.

1096
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:50.960
<v Speaker 8>Let me say first of all, in this embarrassing story,

1097
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:55.159
<v Speaker 8>we didn't lose money. Yeah, and we're we're very blessed,

1098
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:59.760
<v Speaker 8>we're doing really well. But we almost had a gigantic

1099
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.840
<v Speaker 8>of money. And now I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna

1100
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 8>go and tell you what the mistake was.

1101
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.079
<v Speaker 3>First mistake was it was early in the morning.

1102
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:10.960
<v Speaker 8>I decided, okay, and I get paid in ethereum from

1103
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:14.519
<v Speaker 8>another thing that I do through Rock fin So I

1104
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 8>got a rock fan payment, right, and it was a

1105
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 8>certain amount of the theories I'll say it's about a

1106
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.679
<v Speaker 8>thousand dollars fifteen dollars in ethereum, right, And I said,

1107
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 8>you know what, I'm just gonna ape in a little

1108
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:28.960
<v Speaker 8>bit on this peanut, just because I think these memes

1109
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:30.000
<v Speaker 8>are going so crazy.

1110
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:34.760
<v Speaker 3>And I looked and I noticed that on.

1111
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:38.679
<v Speaker 8>Ethereum there was four peanuts, all of which were obviously

1112
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:43.039
<v Speaker 8>the fake ones, right. And I, because it was early

1113
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:44.519
<v Speaker 8>in the morning, I just woke up and I got

1114
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:46.800
<v Speaker 8>that payment, and I didn't even think it should have

1115
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.519
<v Speaker 8>been so obvious that no, obviously the peanut that would

1116
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.199
<v Speaker 8>go off would be the one on Salana, right, But

1117
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:53.880
<v Speaker 8>I just didn't think about it. And I was like,

1118
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:55.760
<v Speaker 8>I'll throw a little bit over here in this peanut,

1119
00:54:56.360 --> 00:55:01.199
<v Speaker 8>and that peanut dumped really quick, as of course many

1120
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:04.960
<v Speaker 8>mean points dump, you know, after their first initial launch, right,

1121
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:07.360
<v Speaker 8>So I didn't think a whole lot about it. I

1122
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.239
<v Speaker 8>went ahead and like, all right, so I've lost about

1123
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:11.360
<v Speaker 8>five hundred bucks. I'm gonna just, you know, save the

1124
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:14.679
<v Speaker 8>last thousand of this fifteen hundred and I kid you

1125
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:18.360
<v Speaker 8>not five six days later the one that I meant

1126
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 8>if we would have four four and a half million

1127
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:24.039
<v Speaker 8>dollars in peanut, if I had bought the right peanut

1128
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:28.119
<v Speaker 8>and held it. And it was such a mistake, but

1129
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.920
<v Speaker 8>it's okay. I learned my lesson. I mean, everybody has

1130
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:34.079
<v Speaker 8>these crypto mistakes. Like even going back to twenty fourteen,

1131
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.480
<v Speaker 8>if the dude at the conference I was at, if

1132
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:37.960
<v Speaker 8>i'd listened to him, he was actually gonna give me

1133
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:39.719
<v Speaker 8>a bitcoin. He's like, I'm gonna give you two bitcoin

1134
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:42.199
<v Speaker 8>if you just get a wallet, and I'm like, I

1135
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 8>don't know what you're talking about.

1136
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:44.239
<v Speaker 3>They don't know what a wallet is.

1137
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.199
<v Speaker 8>So I would have had another additional tube bit quin

1138
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 8>if I had just gotten that wallet, that guy to it.

1139
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:52.159
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, there's but that's just two mistakes.

1140
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:54.480
<v Speaker 8>I mean that you know, there's there's there's good stuff.

1141
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:57.840
<v Speaker 8>So I'm definitely we're good. We didn't lose any money,

1142
00:55:57.840 --> 00:55:59.639
<v Speaker 8>but we missed out on a lot more than what

1143
00:55:59.679 --> 00:55:59.880
<v Speaker 8>we have.

1144
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:05.519
<v Speaker 7>The last maybe crypto topic, how many chains are you

1145
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.119
<v Speaker 7>playing around on? Is it just kind of ethereum salon

1146
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:09.960
<v Speaker 7>a bitcoin or are there a bunch you're playing on?

1147
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:12.960
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I know you I mean I've had at

1148
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.920
<v Speaker 8>one point I do a lot of trading. In the

1149
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.920
<v Speaker 8>cycle of like twenty say eighteen to twenty one, I

1150
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.719
<v Speaker 8>was trading a lot, and we did pretty good with that.

1151
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean we we didn't.

1152
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:28.559
<v Speaker 8>I would say we we definitely had a lot more

1153
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:30.679
<v Speaker 8>gains that we had in terms of bad trades and losses.

1154
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:33.760
<v Speaker 8>I had one bad trade, but that was a significant amount,

1155
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.800
<v Speaker 8>about forty thousand dollars, But I mean most of the

1156
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 8>gains were, you know, far exceeded that. So I would say,

1157
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:43.119
<v Speaker 8>you know, at different times I held a pretty significant

1158
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.679
<v Speaker 8>amount of phantom. You know, I've played around on the

1159
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 8>Phantom chain, like I think you guys are on Phantom right,

1160
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:54.440
<v Speaker 8>And I mean, yeah, ethereum mainly because of in the past,

1161
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:57.000
<v Speaker 8>not so much nowadays, but because I get paid in ethereum.

1162
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:02.400
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, I mean I played around on base. I

1163
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:05.320
<v Speaker 8>mean I had almost had if I had kept Boomer,

1164
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.119
<v Speaker 8>I would have done pretty good with Boomer on base.

1165
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:08.800
<v Speaker 3>I was an idiot.

1166
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:11.559
<v Speaker 8>I sold Boomer too. It wouldn't have been as much

1167
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:16.159
<v Speaker 8>as the peanut. But but yeah, I mean, I'm I'm

1168
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:19.760
<v Speaker 8>open to a lot of that. It's just that, uh,

1169
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.239
<v Speaker 8>you know, I watched the you know, deck screener and

1170
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:24.079
<v Speaker 8>try to play around a little bit with like the

1171
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:27.119
<v Speaker 8>Solana stuff. But you know, I only have so much

1172
00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:30.159
<v Speaker 8>time in the day, so that's smaller amounts of money.

1173
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:31.639
<v Speaker 8>I don't really put a whole lot of time and

1174
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:33.800
<v Speaker 8>focused into that. And uh, you know, you guys have

1175
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:37.039
<v Speaker 8>been very generous. I do appreciate you know, you guys's

1176
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:41.000
<v Speaker 8>uh support and the tin hat caw you've given uh

1177
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 8>And I wish I hadn't sold it.

1178
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:44.039
<v Speaker 3>I had to pay a bill though. We had a

1179
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:48.639
<v Speaker 3>couple of things come up here in terms of damage.

1180
00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:50.559
<v Speaker 8>We had some damage to my house in terms of

1181
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:52.119
<v Speaker 8>the basement, so I had to pay to have a

1182
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:53.440
<v Speaker 8>humidifier put in the basement.

1183
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:56.039
<v Speaker 3>So at one point, but I would have had I.

1184
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 8>Missed out on like a four X if I hadn't

1185
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.760
<v Speaker 8>sold you guys, But you did help pay for my humidifire,

1186
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:03.239
<v Speaker 8>So thank you.

1187
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 7>No topic, we had a guy or one of our

1188
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:10.039
<v Speaker 7>video guys are awesome conspiracy based video content. I know

1189
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:12.760
<v Speaker 7>he does a lot of podcasts on the side, has

1190
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:13.960
<v Speaker 7>a merch company.

1191
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:17.039
<v Speaker 6>But I gave him a bag of THHD a while

1192
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:18.599
<v Speaker 6>ago just to help.

1193
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.000
<v Speaker 7>Do some content and stuff, and he sent me a

1194
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:24.239
<v Speaker 7>DM during that hurricane that was going on down to Florida,

1195
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.599
<v Speaker 7>and he was like, dude, I'm so sorry I had

1196
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:30.840
<v Speaker 7>to sell, but like, thank you, thank God, Like you

1197
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:35.000
<v Speaker 7>guys kept us going through this, Like you're right, that's

1198
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:38.199
<v Speaker 7>the reason that we're still going.

1199
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:40.960
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I think I think in total when I sold,

1200
00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:43.480
<v Speaker 8>I think you guys between the two, I mean, it

1201
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 8>was about fourteen hundred dollars you guys sent, which is

1202
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:46.920
<v Speaker 8>pretty crazy total.

1203
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:49.519
<v Speaker 6>And that's just purely just communities.

1204
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:51.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean the community exactly.

1205
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:55.679
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Now that is kind of the the one thing

1206
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:59.000
<v Speaker 7>that we kind of pride ourselves on being a coin

1207
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:03.079
<v Speaker 7>in this space. We don't pay KOLs, don't do any

1208
00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:05.599
<v Speaker 7>paid marketing, don't do any stuff like that. It's really

1209
00:59:05.679 --> 00:59:09.079
<v Speaker 7>just trying to get the community movement. Now that touches

1210
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:17.480
<v Speaker 7>into mere AD's cult thesis, yess yeah, yeah, So I

1211
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:22.639
<v Speaker 7>want to get your thoughts on good and bad cults.

1212
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:26.639
<v Speaker 7>Is there any validity too that there are good and

1213
00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:27.679
<v Speaker 7>bad cults?

1214
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:30.639
<v Speaker 8>Well, cult just as you know, derivative of the term

1215
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:34.159
<v Speaker 8>cultus and so it relates to the notion of a

1216
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 8>you know, unified community in some way worshiping h so

1217
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:41.960
<v Speaker 8>you know, ultimately worth owis Christianity for me is is

1218
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.639
<v Speaker 8>kind of my true cult, so to speak. But yeah,

1219
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:47.880
<v Speaker 8>I mean, colt can obviously have negative connotations of like

1220
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.760
<v Speaker 8>Jim Jones and mind control and all that, So it

1221
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:55.599
<v Speaker 8>really just depends on the context. But I think the

1222
00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:59.599
<v Speaker 8>sense I mean in his lecture is what's interesting is

1223
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:03.760
<v Speaker 8>that he said, as he actually says, because religion is dying,

1224
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:08.679
<v Speaker 8>mean coins can become a kind of replacement religion.

1225
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:10.000
<v Speaker 3>That to me, that's too far.

1226
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:13.039
<v Speaker 8>I mean, he may be correct and that actually happening,

1227
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:15.360
<v Speaker 8>but I wouldn't go that far. I think that's going

1228
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:18.800
<v Speaker 8>too far. But I think that the way that humans operate,

1229
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:22.199
<v Speaker 8>he's correct, And I mean, really, what you guys are doing,

1230
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:24.320
<v Speaker 8>or anyone else in the space is doing, it's no

1231
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:28.760
<v Speaker 8>different than what like any any entity or corporation or

1232
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:31.800
<v Speaker 8>even you know, a person with a following does is

1233
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:34.239
<v Speaker 8>like you, you kind of generate a community.

1234
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:37.639
<v Speaker 3>That's all it is, and that's healthy.

1235
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:40.760
<v Speaker 8>There's nothing inherently wrong with that. No, there's nothing wrong

1236
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:43.119
<v Speaker 8>with different niches and communities.

1237
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.079
<v Speaker 3>And I mean my audience, like.

1238
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:47.119
<v Speaker 8>We have a lot of fun with our own kind

1239
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:51.239
<v Speaker 8>of language, our own inside jokes, our own memes.

1240
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:51.519
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

1241
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:53.280
<v Speaker 8>So this is just kind of natural, I think for

1242
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:56.599
<v Speaker 8>anybody out there in the way the Internet works today,

1243
01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:59.519
<v Speaker 8>and is probably more true as Marod says, for like

1244
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.519
<v Speaker 8>the younger people. I don't know if I would want

1245
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:04.199
<v Speaker 8>to say that memes are going to be religions. So

1246
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:06.239
<v Speaker 8>but but I mean he maybe write them that made

1247
01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:07.239
<v Speaker 8>me actually where they go.

1248
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:11.960
<v Speaker 7>You know, there's a just a statement alone scares me

1249
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:17.480
<v Speaker 7>a bit. I come, my grow up is kind of

1250
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:21.480
<v Speaker 7>anti religion. And at the point now where I have

1251
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:26.400
<v Speaker 7>this feeling of society's fallen apart. The more we society

1252
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:31.280
<v Speaker 7>has gotten away from religion. Now, I'm not really sure

1253
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:33.800
<v Speaker 7>where I sit in in the whole belief structure of everything.

1254
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:36.800
<v Speaker 7>I have had some crazy trips where I sit there

1255
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.159
<v Speaker 7>and go, yeah, there's something fucking else going on to

1256
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:43.599
<v Speaker 7>all this. I definitely don't don't understand everything. But then

1257
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:49.199
<v Speaker 7>there's there's aspects of of all the books that they're

1258
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:52.599
<v Speaker 7>just interesting. There's still that part of me that goes

1259
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:58.239
<v Speaker 7>to religious books. Yeah, religious books. At what point where

1260
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:03.320
<v Speaker 7>there books hidden or like not written something? The Bible,

1261
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:07.719
<v Speaker 7>for instance, I love to talk about the Book of

1262
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:11.159
<v Speaker 7>Enoch not being included in the Bible, and that those

1263
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:15.480
<v Speaker 7>pages exist in the Ethiopian Christian Bible, but they don't

1264
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:17.280
<v Speaker 7>exist in the King jamesbit.

1265
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:21.679
<v Speaker 8>Well for the Orthodox charges for example, I think we

1266
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:24.559
<v Speaker 8>don't have any so since we're not like Protestant solar

1267
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 8>scripture advocates, meaning that we don't think that the Bible

1268
01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:31.639
<v Speaker 8>alone is the source of you know, faith in revelation

1269
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:35.480
<v Speaker 8>and so forth, because we also believe in tradition outside

1270
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:36.119
<v Speaker 8>of the Bible.

1271
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:38.639
<v Speaker 3>Because Jude cites the Book.

1272
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:40.639
<v Speaker 8>Of Enich, I think in the Orthodox tradition we would

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<v Speaker 8>have no problems saying that the Book of Jude even

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<v Speaker 8>though it's not in the canon proper, it does include

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<v Speaker 8>true revelation and true divine tradition, so it's very compatible

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<v Speaker 8>with Orthodox Christianity. And even some of the Slavic Bibles

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<v Speaker 8>include the Book of Enich even though it's not in

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<v Speaker 8>the quote canon proper.

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<v Speaker 3>So Orthodoxy Jan I think is unique in that regard.

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<v Speaker 7>Interesting, Okay, now, I know Book of Enoch leads into

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of today's current alien beliefs.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of shit going on in the news lately, uh, with.

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<v Speaker 7>People coming out, whistleblowers videos, Where are you at with aliens?

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<v Speaker 6>Project Bluebeam? What's going on these days? Are they here?

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<v Speaker 6>Are they real? Are we getting played?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean I tend to favor the psyop thesis for

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<v Speaker 8>the whole alien genre as a whole. I do admit that,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, there can be demonic aspects to the phenomena.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a good book on this by Sarah from Rose

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<v Speaker 8>called Orthodoxy in the Religion the Future, where he talks

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<v Speaker 8>about some of the manifestations of the alien phenomena. But

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<v Speaker 8>I think that largely what's going on with a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of the so called whistleblowers and these you know, government

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01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:02.119
<v Speaker 8>hearings and all this is really to actually foster a

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<v Speaker 8>narrative that the deep state itself wants for religious engineering

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<v Speaker 8>to kind of retool and retinker with, to tinker with

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01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:14.280
<v Speaker 8>the Western tradition itself. I think they would like to

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<v Speaker 8>see the religion of the future move away from anything

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<v Speaker 8>remotely connected to know, the founding documents Western civilization, including

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01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:24.559
<v Speaker 8>the Bible. So they want to move in the direction

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<v Speaker 8>of things that they control that are very amenable to technocracy,

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<v Speaker 8>and certainly the neo Darwinian alien panspermia theory all kind

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<v Speaker 8>of works together with the alien jibber jabber, and I

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01:04:37.559 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 8>think the whole history of the alien stuff. If you

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<v Speaker 8>go and watch my interviews that I've done with Paul

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01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:44.079
<v Speaker 8>and Philip Collins, the Collins Brothers, they've written a really

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<v Speaker 8>good book on this called Invoking the Beyond, where they

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<v Speaker 8>argue that largely what's going on is an intentional deep

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<v Speaker 8>state foisted narrative. Going back to like MJ twelve, going

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01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:03.320
<v Speaker 8>back to Project Blue Book, I do think Project Blue

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<v Speaker 8>Beam is a real thing, Like there is a real

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01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 8>potentiality for you know, holograms and staged alien stuff. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 8>but I would say also people should watch the famous

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01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:18.920
<v Speaker 8>documentary Mirage Men. That's a good window into how intelligence

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01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:23.639
<v Speaker 8>uses the alien narrative and all this stuff to really again,

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01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:30.239
<v Speaker 8>I think craft a future ideology that's amenable to technocracy ultimately.

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<v Speaker 8>But that's not to say that on a personal level

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01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 8>people don't have these experiences. I think that a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of those experiences, if you look at ritual abuse, SRA,

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01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:44.840
<v Speaker 8>this kind of stuff, you'll find overlap with this so

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<v Speaker 8>called alien experiences.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, is.

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<v Speaker 7>This going to have any play in with I seen

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<v Speaker 7>you share an arcicle yesterday of the day before Henry

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<v Speaker 7>Kissinger or something about superhumans.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it could.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that, you know, definitely, transhumanism ties into the

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01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.679
<v Speaker 8>alien narrative and the Cause Brothers actually touch on that

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<v Speaker 8>quite a bit in that book, So there is an

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01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:11.519
<v Speaker 8>overlap there. There's a lot of times people will say, well,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, if you accept kind of the big Bang

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01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:18.679
<v Speaker 8>Darwinian theory, the theses, then it stands to reason that

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<v Speaker 8>we are not special, and we're not you know, alone

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<v Speaker 8>in the universe, because the universe is infinite, aon's old

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<v Speaker 8>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Then there were.

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01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:30.039
<v Speaker 8>There's most likely life evolving in other planets, and most

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01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:32.760
<v Speaker 8>likely they're more advanced. And so that's the logic that

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01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:34.400
<v Speaker 8>that train of thought goes down.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you follow that, I think that I think

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01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:38.320
<v Speaker 3>it leads a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>But that don't think of Richard Dawkins train of thought.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh actually he says this. Yeah, Dawkins famously famously is well.

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe in the possibility of aliens, you see,

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01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and that's more than god.

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<v Speaker 6>It's so dark to listen to him. I tried it

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<v Speaker 6>so dark.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think Dawkins is a good example of what

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01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:01.679
<v Speaker 8>we're talking about. Don't know if he may have commented

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01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:04.079
<v Speaker 8>on transhumanism at some point, but he definitely has commented

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01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:09.440
<v Speaker 8>on the compatibility with you know, the strict Darwinian dogma

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01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:13.039
<v Speaker 8>and aliens. And again, you know, if you accept that

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01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:17.239
<v Speaker 8>evolutionary theory thesis, then most of those proponents also kind

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01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.840
<v Speaker 8>of project that, well, we will be therefore evolving into

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01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:22.880
<v Speaker 8>the future. I don't know why they always assume it's

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01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:25.599
<v Speaker 8>evolving and not devolving. I mean, there's no law that

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<v Speaker 8>says that if you believe in this, it has to

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01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:30.679
<v Speaker 8>be a progressive evolution. It might be a progressive evolution.

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01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:33.199
<v Speaker 8>I mean, maybe we're getting worse. Maybe we're getting dumber

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01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:36.880
<v Speaker 8>if that whole worldview is true. But yeah, I mean

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01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:40.760
<v Speaker 8>transhumanism kind of fits into that because if we are evolving,

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01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:43.599
<v Speaker 8>then it stands to reason in their view, that only

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01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:46.480
<v Speaker 8>by uniting ourselves with AI and technology could we then

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<v Speaker 8>evolve to become you know, Marvel superhero gods.

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<v Speaker 7>Think I want to ask, how prevalent do you think

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<v Speaker 7>Satanism is in today's society now? I say this because

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<v Speaker 7>I've been recently watching a little Netflix series.

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<v Speaker 6>Kind of from the Satanic panic days that metal rock days.

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<v Speaker 7>I grew up on classic rock, grew up listening to

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<v Speaker 7>Ozzy Osbourne, grew up kind of as a kid thinking

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<v Speaker 7>that like he was the Satanist, you know. Being older

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<v Speaker 7>now and having listened to the lyrics and everything, very

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01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:29.800
<v Speaker 7>much feel differently about that. I feel like his song

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01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.119
<v Speaker 7>about Aleister Crowley is a very interesting, like kind of

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01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:34.720
<v Speaker 7>call out of Crowley.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 8>Thought was quote satanic in the eighties, and that was

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01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:46.000
<v Speaker 8>kind of corny, cheeseball stuff that for the most part

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01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:49.319
<v Speaker 8>was theatrics and probably wasn't that sincere.

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01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:53.039
<v Speaker 3>However, some of the cases.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe not the rock bands, but like the McMartin preschool case.

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01:08:56.479 --> 01:08:58.720
<v Speaker 8>I mean it was declassified by the FBI that they

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01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:04.680
<v Speaker 8>really were tunnels underneath the preschool, and some of the

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01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 8>other cases that were adjacent to or related to the

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01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:11.680
<v Speaker 8>Satanic panic actually did turn out to be real cases

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01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:14.720
<v Speaker 8>of SRA. So you can look up the Franklin scandal.

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01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:17.279
<v Speaker 8>I've been on the podcast with the author of that

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01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:21.439
<v Speaker 8>book from my publisher, Nick Bryant, Franklin Cover Up. You know,

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01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:24.520
<v Speaker 8>that's an example of a scandal at that time that

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<v Speaker 8>did relate to actual Satanic ritual abuse, involving a lot

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01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:32.800
<v Speaker 8>of hype level GOP officials Nebraska politicians. If you go

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01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:35.359
<v Speaker 8>into the history of the cases of Satanic ritual abuse

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01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:38.159
<v Speaker 8>in the Roman Catholic Church going back to sixties, seventies,

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01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:39.920
<v Speaker 8>and eighties, there's plenty of cases.

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01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Of that where that was real.

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01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:43.840
<v Speaker 8>That was first detailed as far as I'm aware, both

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01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:47.199
<v Speaker 8>in Malachi Martin's books in the nineties and in the

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01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:50.560
<v Speaker 8>first journalistic book to cover in TOTO was when Kennedy's

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<v Speaker 8>book Lucifer's Lodge, which came out in two thousand and three,

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01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:55.640
<v Speaker 8>and I was I mean, I got that book when

1402
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:57.760
<v Speaker 8>it came out, So I've been reading about this, you know,

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01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:00.800
<v Speaker 8>for over twenty years now, so and I'm not trying

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01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:03.199
<v Speaker 8>to say like, oh, I'm an expert, but I mean

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01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.840
<v Speaker 8>you can go into even some of the serials, like

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01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:10.600
<v Speaker 8>for example, when Heraldo did his series that helped kick

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01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:13.000
<v Speaker 8>off Satanic Panic, he focused on a few of the

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01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:16.039
<v Speaker 8>serial killers, one of whom was Bobby Bardella. Well, Bobby

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01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:19.239
<v Speaker 8>Burdella actually was a Satanist. He really was into torturing

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01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:22.199
<v Speaker 8>and and he had a group of people that he

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01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:26.840
<v Speaker 8>called his Satanic Crew, and they seem to take it

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01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:30.920
<v Speaker 8>pretty seriously. The one of the most infamous serial killers

1413
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:33.520
<v Speaker 8>was the.

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01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Toy box Killer. I think he's called he was a

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01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:39.079
<v Speaker 3>committed Satanist.

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01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:41.920
<v Speaker 8>So like some of the serial killers, and there's evidence

1417
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:47.279
<v Speaker 8>actually that Dahmer was too, So there is some truth there.

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01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:50.640
<v Speaker 8>But then what happens is the people who wanted to

1419
01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:55.359
<v Speaker 8>debunk this came in and they actually satirized it and

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01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:58.840
<v Speaker 8>sensationalized it and made a lot of ridiculous stuff. For example,

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01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:02.039
<v Speaker 8>the one of the books from the Satanic Panic is

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01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:04.880
<v Speaker 8>Michelle Remembers And if you I've read the book, if

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01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.119
<v Speaker 8>you read it like it kind of starts out being

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01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:10.039
<v Speaker 8>plausible and then towards the end of the book, it

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01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:13.359
<v Speaker 8>just turns into these really outlandish, ridiculous claims that she's making,

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01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.520
<v Speaker 8>like like the devil shows up and dancing at their

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01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:20.119
<v Speaker 8>rituals or some something ridiculous, and that really discredits her.

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01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:22.359
<v Speaker 3>And then Martin Orne, who.

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01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:25.199
<v Speaker 8>Was the CIA literally a CIA founder of the False

1430
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:28.479
<v Speaker 8>Memory Syndrome Foundation. The people who found the False Memory

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01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:31.880
<v Speaker 8>Syndrome Foundation to debunk all of the children claiming to

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01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:35.039
<v Speaker 8>have undergone ritual abuse are all from the CIA, and

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01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:38.119
<v Speaker 8>some of those people were arrested for being child prawn

1434
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:41.239
<v Speaker 8>pushers themselves, and you can look that up.

1435
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:46.520
<v Speaker 3>That's all on record. So I think there's truth and.

1436
01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:53.039
<v Speaker 8>Like exaggeration going on with the eighty Satanic panic. But

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01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.960
<v Speaker 8>as we fast forward to today, I mean, I think

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01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:57.800
<v Speaker 8>we have plenty of you know that you can find

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01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:00.920
<v Speaker 8>girls on TikTok being very candid about the fact that

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01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:05.880
<v Speaker 8>they see their abortions as actions of ritual offering. So

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01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:09.600
<v Speaker 8>they may not be theistic Satanists. They may be Wickens

1442
01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:11.600
<v Speaker 8>or whatever they think they are. Maybe they are said

1443
01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:16.760
<v Speaker 8>like like, it doesn't like it's manifesting as people acting

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01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:21.479
<v Speaker 8>on Satanic principles and Crolean types of principles, whether they

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01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:25.920
<v Speaker 8>themselves are explicitly ritual magician practicing you know, crole heites

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01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:26.199
<v Speaker 8>or not.

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01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:29.920
<v Speaker 3>You see what I'm saying. Yeah, that's so interesting.

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01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:33.720
<v Speaker 7>It does feel like there's always fucking black magic going on,

1449
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.279
<v Speaker 7>whether any of these shirts. I would just drove by

1450
01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:39.079
<v Speaker 7>the Taylor Swift is performing in Toronto. I just drove

1451
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:42.560
<v Speaker 7>by the fucking craziness that's going on down here, and

1452
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:44.680
<v Speaker 7>the colors and everything that's they got going on the

1453
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:47.640
<v Speaker 7>light show. It just feels like there's a lot of

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01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:49.399
<v Speaker 7>symbolism that they like to use with these people.

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01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Definitely.

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01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:53.199
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's kind of what you know, my books focus

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01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.239
<v Speaker 8>on in terms of film in Hollywood, the meaning and

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01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:59.760
<v Speaker 8>the you know, the coding behind that symbolism. And my wife,

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01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:02.560
<v Speaker 8>she's got a couple of books that she did and

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01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:04.840
<v Speaker 8>those cover a lot of the pop stars. And yeah,

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01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:07.600
<v Speaker 8>I think there's I mean, like we've all seen this

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01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:10.399
<v Speaker 8>with Marina Bramovisch, right, I Mean you might have doubted

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01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:13.640
<v Speaker 8>this with like Katie Perry or whatever, but you know,

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01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:17.720
<v Speaker 8>Marina Bramovich is pretty explicit about her you know, witchcraft

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01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:22.000
<v Speaker 8>tendencies and worldview. So it should be it shouldn't really be,

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01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:25.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, in the realm of theory, it's pretty pretty

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01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:26.279
<v Speaker 8>factual now.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that was one of the most interesting moments

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01:13:29.399 --> 01:13:32.960
<v Speaker 7>during the COVID times for me was what obviously Bill

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01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:36.119
<v Speaker 7>Gates becomes, you know, a very high head in the

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01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:40.840
<v Speaker 7>whole conspiracy aspect of COVID. But then while that's going on,

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<v Speaker 7>Microsoft drops a four and a half minute advertisement featuring Ramovic.

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01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:47.399
<v Speaker 3>I did a video on.

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<v Speaker 8>That, and they basically buried it like it wouldn't it

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01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:51.560
<v Speaker 8>wouldn't be shown.

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01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:54.399
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, it's crazy to see.

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01:13:55.039 --> 01:13:57.159
<v Speaker 7>I mean Microsoft got rid of the advertisement right away,

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01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:00.439
<v Speaker 7>but like nothing ever came about that.

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01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:02.239
<v Speaker 6>I feel like that story comes with went to bed.

1480
01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:04.520
<v Speaker 7>And as you said, I guess they're putting away the

1481
01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:05.479
<v Speaker 7>content about it.

1482
01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:10.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean I think this is starting to break though.

1483
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.039
<v Speaker 8>I mean a lot of even the younger generation, who

1484
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:18.680
<v Speaker 8>you know, we criticize zoomers a lot, but like a

1485
01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:21.600
<v Speaker 8>lot of them are like they don't care about celebrities,

1486
01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:24.640
<v Speaker 8>which is interesting, you know, they don't care about this

1487
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:27.399
<v Speaker 8>older model of like you know, like I'm supposed to

1488
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:30.520
<v Speaker 8>give a shit with Madonna thinks, right, like in nineteen

1489
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.680
<v Speaker 8>ninety eight, like you know, Madonna could talk about something,

1490
01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:35.399
<v Speaker 8>and that carried a lot of weight, and I think

1491
01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:39.039
<v Speaker 8>nobody cares about what these idiots, you know, pop stars are.

1492
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Saying more and more.

1493
01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:43.159
<v Speaker 8>So that's a good sign that we're moving away from

1494
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:47.039
<v Speaker 8>from that just mindless idea of like following these idiot celebrities.

1495
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.119
<v Speaker 8>That was a huge stranglehold for so long, and the

1496
01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:53.039
<v Speaker 8>culture was, you know, people just deferring to these idiot celebrities,

1497
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:55.319
<v Speaker 8>all of whom were obviously just kind of you know,

1498
01:14:55.399 --> 01:15:00.039
<v Speaker 8>tools of the left and basically socialism and degeneracy. So

1499
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:02.680
<v Speaker 8>that's a good song. I mean, it's not all it's

1500
01:15:02.680 --> 01:15:04.600
<v Speaker 8>not all bad. People are getting tired of all this

1501
01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:06.399
<v Speaker 8>just gross stuff.

1502
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:11.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's nice to see. I mean even my now,

1503
01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:12.600
<v Speaker 6>I don't know whether.

1504
01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:14.000
<v Speaker 7>It's a good thing or bad thing, because it feels

1505
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:16.600
<v Speaker 7>like some of some of it's just the attention just

1506
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:19.920
<v Speaker 7>goes to smaller people and now like my sister just

1507
01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:24.520
<v Speaker 7>gets all of her opinions from eighty different TikTokers.

1508
01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:29.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's there's still issues because you know,

1509
01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:32.560
<v Speaker 8>TikTok's obviously some kind of like some kind of weird

1510
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:38.079
<v Speaker 8>to advance my control thing. I don't understand it, but yeah,

1511
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:41.039
<v Speaker 8>I want to. I mean, I still think overall this

1512
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:43.199
<v Speaker 8>isn't net positive in terms of Twitter. I mean, I

1513
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:46.039
<v Speaker 8>know there's a lot of criticism of well it's not.

1514
01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:48.720
<v Speaker 7>You know this, but look, I mean this is are

1515
01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:50.600
<v Speaker 7>you joining are you joining Blue Sky soon?

1516
01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:53.760
<v Speaker 8>I've just heard about that the other day from Jamie.

1517
01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know what it is, but I just heard.

1518
01:15:57.840 --> 01:15:59.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I heard it's woke Twitter. And if you say

1519
01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:01.319
<v Speaker 6>any thing, it's like your band in the day.

1520
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:03.399
<v Speaker 3>I told Jamie that.

1521
01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:05.319
<v Speaker 8>I was like, well, if all the people who are

1522
01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.920
<v Speaker 8>mad at Twitter are leaving for that, it can't be good.

1523
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:09.199
<v Speaker 3>It's got to be like woke Twitter.

1524
01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:14.760
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay, I want to get your thoughts on ghosts

1525
01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:15.600
<v Speaker 7>and paranormal shit.

1526
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:20.079
<v Speaker 6>So, I mean ghost it's on category paranormal shit.

1527
01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:26.039
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna call like abilities, whether that's like levitation, remote viewing.

1528
01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:28.319
<v Speaker 7>You hear about these kind of stories of the CIA

1529
01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:31.520
<v Speaker 7>studying kids with abilities, Yeah, you think about that.

1530
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:34.560
<v Speaker 8>All those things are real. I mean the programs are

1531
01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:37.840
<v Speaker 8>real first and foremost. We've David Patrick, Harry and I've

1532
01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:41.239
<v Speaker 8>done a podcast, for example, on Project Stargate from the

1533
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:44.920
<v Speaker 8>from SRI and Gateway process to CIA. So I mean

1534
01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:46.880
<v Speaker 8>all those things are real. You know, we've been covering

1535
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:50.680
<v Speaker 8>those for a long time. I don't know how effective

1536
01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:53.199
<v Speaker 8>remote viewing is. I mean, it doesn't see it doesn't

1537
01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:55.800
<v Speaker 8>seem to be like super reliable, So it's not gonna

1538
01:16:55.800 --> 01:16:58.760
<v Speaker 8>be that great like in a you know, wartime or

1539
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:02.199
<v Speaker 8>spon I setting. It's kind of a little bit reliable.

1540
01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:04.640
<v Speaker 8>So but it does seem like there's something there. People

1541
01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:07.800
<v Speaker 8>really are having some success with remote viewing, so I

1542
01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:10.119
<v Speaker 8>wouldn't be surprised in terms of you know, kind of

1543
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:12.000
<v Speaker 8>sixth sensibilities going.

1544
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:12.479
<v Speaker 3>On with people.

1545
01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:17.479
<v Speaker 8>I don't think there's like X men, you know, mutants

1546
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:21.199
<v Speaker 8>that are evolving to be superhuman or anything gay like that.

1547
01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:22.359
<v Speaker 3>I think that's ridiculous.

1548
01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:30.720
<v Speaker 8>I do think there are spirits that are here, malevolent spirits, ghosts.

1549
01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:32.800
<v Speaker 8>I do kind of tend towards that that I don't

1550
01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:36.640
<v Speaker 8>I don't really understand how it works, because even in

1551
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:38.920
<v Speaker 8>the Orthodox tradition, you know, we do have this idea

1552
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.640
<v Speaker 8>that the the dead do kind of hang around for

1553
01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:45.119
<v Speaker 8>a little while, so and we that's the word the octures.

1554
01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:45.960
<v Speaker 3>We pray for the dead.

1555
01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:49.279
<v Speaker 8>So we do believe there is a connection between the

1556
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:51.840
<v Speaker 8>living and the dead. How it all works we don't

1557
01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:53.960
<v Speaker 8>really know is kind of mysterious, but yeah, I do.

1558
01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:57.000
<v Speaker 8>I do tend to think that ghosts, Poultergeist, that kind

1559
01:17:57.039 --> 01:17:57.760
<v Speaker 8>of stuff is real.

1560
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:02.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't have any set views on cryptids.

1561
01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:05.800
<v Speaker 8>I guess there could be, you know, some creatures and

1562
01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:09.359
<v Speaker 8>things that are real that we don't know about.

1563
01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:11.239
<v Speaker 3>I watched a lot of those kind of videos.

1564
01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:15.079
<v Speaker 8>For fun, you know, like Slaptad, slam Ham and James

1565
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:16.119
<v Speaker 8>la Fleur and all.

1566
01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:18.720
<v Speaker 3>Those kind of channels for fun. But yeah, I'm open

1567
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:19.279
<v Speaker 3>to those things.

1568
01:18:19.479 --> 01:18:23.319
<v Speaker 8>But I don't think that the EB like aliens coming

1569
01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:24.279
<v Speaker 8>to us from another planet.

1570
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:25.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe in any of that stuff.

1571
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:29.640
<v Speaker 8>Okay, I think anything like that is terrestrial. It's not

1572
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:32.640
<v Speaker 8>you know, coming to us from Pliades or whatever.

1573
01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:36.600
<v Speaker 7>So I mean, I know flat earth coin was in

1574
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:40.960
<v Speaker 7>the in the booth earlier here. If if the if

1575
01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.239
<v Speaker 7>you were to get away from Earth is the globe,

1576
01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:45.239
<v Speaker 7>let's let's just play with a different theory.

1577
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:47.840
<v Speaker 6>Would you lean flat Earth or would you lean hollow Earth?

1578
01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Between those two, I would lean hollow.

1579
01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1580
01:18:52.119 --> 01:18:52.479
<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

1581
01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:55.239
<v Speaker 7>I do find like the whole Middle Ages, like you know,

1582
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.159
<v Speaker 7>the Lord of the Rings, the Hobbit stories.

1583
01:18:58.279 --> 01:18:59.920
<v Speaker 6>I do find that's pretty interesting.

1584
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:02.600
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think it's fun to speculate with these kinds

1585
01:19:02.600 --> 01:19:03.119
<v Speaker 8>of theories.

1586
01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:10.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm familiar with, you know, the people arguing that, you know, Tolkien.

1587
01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:12.479
<v Speaker 8>Was Actually when we did our TV show, I remember

1588
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:14.960
<v Speaker 8>there was an episode where I think Jay Wiener was

1589
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:17.000
<v Speaker 8>the first to throw that idea at me, where he

1590
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:20.000
<v Speaker 8>says something like his view about because we did an

1591
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:21.399
<v Speaker 8>episode in Lord of the Rings and he was saying

1592
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:24.760
<v Speaker 8>that he thought that Tolkien had stumbled across like old

1593
01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:28.800
<v Speaker 8>you know, Norse documents and things that actually told the

1594
01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:31.920
<v Speaker 8>real history about yeah, about there being like a Yeah,

1595
01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:33.640
<v Speaker 8>that was his kind of out there theory.

1596
01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Which I thought was interesting.

1597
01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:38.159
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, I mean I think that you know, actually,

1598
01:19:38.199 --> 01:19:40.760
<v Speaker 8>another thing that has always made me think that might

1599
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:44.760
<v Speaker 8>be possible is Plato's dialogue Fayeto.

1600
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever read that?

1601
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:51.920
<v Speaker 8>If you read that, actually Socrates in there talks about

1602
01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:56.399
<v Speaker 8>dimensions and like going into the inner parts of the earth,

1603
01:19:57.439 --> 01:19:59.880
<v Speaker 8>and yeah, he speaks of it like there being like

1604
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:01.680
<v Speaker 8>a whole other world and civilization.

1605
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:05.119
<v Speaker 3>So he doesn't explicitly well.

1606
01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:09.359
<v Speaker 8>Actually I can't remember exact term he uses, but it's

1607
01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:12.840
<v Speaker 8>it's it seems something like that. So that to me

1608
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.439
<v Speaker 8>seems plausible. I've looked at and listened to a lot

1609
01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:17.800
<v Speaker 8>of Flatters stuff. I just never really found it that convincing.

1610
01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:22.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the Hollower is interesting to me because I remember

1611
01:20:22.600 --> 01:20:25.000
<v Speaker 7>hearing about even like the Nazi stuff in Antarctica.

1612
01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1613
01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:29.000
<v Speaker 7>That brings up a story of some Air Force pilot

1614
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:31.319
<v Speaker 7>who was going down there to check it out, and

1615
01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:34.000
<v Speaker 7>then he ended up flying down a hole and he

1616
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:36.760
<v Speaker 7>talks about seeing a whole new world in the middle

1617
01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:37.239
<v Speaker 7>of the Earth.

1618
01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Well he didn't Bird say that? Or Bird says that too,

1619
01:20:40.840 --> 01:20:42.600
<v Speaker 3>about like when he goes over the ice.

1620
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:45.479
<v Speaker 8>Wall he found a other civilization. Isn't that the story

1621
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:46.439
<v Speaker 8>of atimal bird too?

1622
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:51.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Because a bird finds New Schwabland, right.

1623
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I didn't I don't remember what? Yeah, what is that?

1624
01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:58.239
<v Speaker 7>I think it's something about Schwab Or he finds New Schwabland,

1625
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:02.439
<v Speaker 7>which was the see Bass at the time, and that

1626
01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:08.920
<v Speaker 7>ties into Klaus Schwab and his family genealogy apparently. Okay,

1627
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:14.199
<v Speaker 7>all right, I gotta I think you're right on most

1628
01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:15.479
<v Speaker 7>topics here we'll give.

1629
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:18.399
<v Speaker 6>I want to give you something that we'll watch out

1630
01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:19.560
<v Speaker 6>play the last couple of years.

1631
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:24.960
<v Speaker 7>This whole Diddy stuff, I feel like everybody, whether even

1632
01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:27.920
<v Speaker 7>my girlfriend you know, is reading all about the Diddy stories.

1633
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:31.800
<v Speaker 7>How do you think this is going to play out?

1634
01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:34.640
<v Speaker 7>Is he screaming like a burden? There is this going

1635
01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:38.159
<v Speaker 7>to be like the Epstein situation where nothing ever happens.

1636
01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:39.399
<v Speaker 3>It's a good question.

1637
01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:42.680
<v Speaker 8>My suspicion is that he was probably in some way

1638
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:47.960
<v Speaker 8>a compromised asset, going back to what early two thousands

1639
01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:51.680
<v Speaker 8>where he was first investigated by FBI, I think, is

1640
01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:52.439
<v Speaker 8>that right?

1641
01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Do you guys remember? You know what I'm talking about?

1642
01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:58.279
<v Speaker 6>And this goes back is that when that's for the

1643
01:21:58.319 --> 01:21:59.560
<v Speaker 6>Park and Biggie Murders.

1644
01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:02.560
<v Speaker 8>I don't remember what it was about, but he was

1645
01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:05.880
<v Speaker 8>in trouble initially and somewhere around two thousand and two

1646
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:08.039
<v Speaker 8>or three, and I forget exactly what it was over,

1647
01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:11.680
<v Speaker 8>but the FBI was you know, looking into him or something,

1648
01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:14.960
<v Speaker 8>so he could he could have been compromised since then,

1649
01:22:15.199 --> 01:22:17.880
<v Speaker 8>you know what I mean, and working for you know,

1650
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:21.039
<v Speaker 8>different people at different levels to you know, basically do

1651
01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:23.159
<v Speaker 8>a mini Epstein for the music.

1652
01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Industry or something.

1653
01:22:24.359 --> 01:22:27.000
<v Speaker 8>And this kind of follows the model of what people

1654
01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:30.239
<v Speaker 8>have said about other you know, music industry moguls in

1655
01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:33.399
<v Speaker 8>the past. Too, So it seems to follow a pattern

1656
01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:35.520
<v Speaker 8>of what people say about the music industry.

1657
01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:40.720
<v Speaker 7>I walked a really interesting video yesterday that was from

1658
01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:46.560
<v Speaker 7>some independent journalists up here maybe putting the ties Trudeau

1659
01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.920
<v Speaker 7>with the Diddy stuff. So interesting and how Trudeau's wife

1660
01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:52.399
<v Speaker 7>has left him and this and that.

1661
01:22:53.239 --> 01:22:54.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh I saw somebody alleging.

1662
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:56.239
<v Speaker 8>The problem is that it was like a not a

1663
01:22:56.319 --> 01:23:01.079
<v Speaker 8>very trustworthy profile on Twitter. But they were alleging a

1664
01:23:01.079 --> 01:23:03.760
<v Speaker 8>attendance of Trudeau at a Diddy party, which is not

1665
01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:06.359
<v Speaker 8>outside of the realm with you know, possibility. It seems

1666
01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:09.520
<v Speaker 8>very plausible because you know, he was partying with the

1667
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:12.560
<v Speaker 8>Obamas and Beyonce, all kinds of people.

1668
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:17.600
<v Speaker 7>Hey, I heard you do a pretty good Jordan Peterson.

1669
01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:21.680
<v Speaker 7>So I'd like to know what Jordan Peterson thinks of

1670
01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:25.560
<v Speaker 7>Justin Trudeau and how he's running Canada right now.

1671
01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what's a nightmare. It's a fucking nightmare,

1672
01:23:29.279 --> 01:23:32.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, And if I was to start talking about it,

1673
01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:33.199
<v Speaker 3>I might just sort of crust.

1674
01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:38.880
<v Speaker 8>No, Actually, my my Peterson is actually one of my

1675
01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:41.319
<v Speaker 8>weakest impressions. I do about fifty I've got him all

1676
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:44.840
<v Speaker 8>category catalog but made by Jim Bob. You should have

1677
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:46.880
<v Speaker 8>him on. He does a way he does a perfect

1678
01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:50.800
<v Speaker 8>Jordan Peterson, he's the best before, but mind pails.

1679
01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:51.680
<v Speaker 3>The comparison is.

1680
01:23:52.600 --> 01:23:55.000
<v Speaker 6>It was a wild story to watch play out. To

1681
01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:58.640
<v Speaker 6>see his fame. I mean he taught a couple of

1682
01:23:58.640 --> 01:23:59.199
<v Speaker 6>my cousins.

1683
01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, uh.

1684
01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:03.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, this is all local. To see the way he

1685
01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:09.399
<v Speaker 7>got fired and then his blow crazy story, crazy story.

1686
01:24:09.720 --> 01:24:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1687
01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:13.000
<v Speaker 8>I've never I've never had a I've never hated Peter.

1688
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:15.479
<v Speaker 8>I've always kind of liked him overall. I mean I've

1689
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:18.560
<v Speaker 8>had some criticisms about, you know, kind of the blind

1690
01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:23.920
<v Speaker 8>spots and like certain areas of uh my first big

1691
01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:26.720
<v Speaker 8>criticism was the classical liberal phase that he was in,

1692
01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:30.000
<v Speaker 8>and I made a video about seven years ago critical

1693
01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:30.279
<v Speaker 8>of that.

1694
01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:36.760
<v Speaker 3>And that was prior to Pagoe Jonathan Pagoe.

1695
01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:40.239
<v Speaker 8>You know, kind of getting close to Peterson, and then

1696
01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:45.239
<v Speaker 8>they linked up, and Pajoe and I didn't really initially

1697
01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:47.880
<v Speaker 8>get along that well, but we've we've come to get

1698
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:48.720
<v Speaker 8>along good.

1699
01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:50.079
<v Speaker 3>We got to where we get along pretty good.

1700
01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:52.039
<v Speaker 8>We did an interview a couple of years ago that

1701
01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:54.680
<v Speaker 8>was pretty good interview, I think, and uh.

1702
01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:58.359
<v Speaker 3>So, you know that's been a positive influence.

1703
01:24:58.359 --> 01:25:01.640
<v Speaker 8>I would say Peterson's definitely moved further away from the

1704
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:04.239
<v Speaker 8>classical liberal stuff, which he's very critical of.

1705
01:25:04.279 --> 01:25:06.279
<v Speaker 3>Now they're they're openly critical of the Enlightenment.

1706
01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:09.159
<v Speaker 8>So I like to see them moving in that direction,

1707
01:25:09.279 --> 01:25:11.279
<v Speaker 8>and I think, you know, I'm happy for the influence

1708
01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:16.000
<v Speaker 8>that Pego has had for sure on Peterson. But yeah,

1709
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:20.039
<v Speaker 8>I mean it's going to be interesting to see where

1710
01:25:20.039 --> 01:25:21.760
<v Speaker 8>that goes and how that plays out. I mean, I

1711
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:25.119
<v Speaker 8>thought he did really good in the Matt dill Huinty debate.

1712
01:25:25.239 --> 01:25:26.960
<v Speaker 8>I just wish he had gone a little bit harder

1713
01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:28.520
<v Speaker 8>because he could have really crushed him.

1714
01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:30.399
<v Speaker 3>In about the middle of that debate with he was

1715
01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:31.039
<v Speaker 3>using a kind of.

1716
01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:35.720
<v Speaker 8>A transcendent argument. He did pretty good against Dawkins. I

1717
01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:37.399
<v Speaker 8>could he could have gone a little bit stronger.

1718
01:25:38.479 --> 01:25:41.000
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so.

1719
01:25:42.680 --> 01:25:45.560
<v Speaker 6>This year is the debate staged kind of your go

1720
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:46.119
<v Speaker 6>to right.

1721
01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:51.039
<v Speaker 3>Now, Actually not really. I mean I most enjoy doing

1722
01:25:51.119 --> 01:25:53.039
<v Speaker 3>kind of the comedic stuff. I think the highlight of

1723
01:25:53.039 --> 01:25:53.840
<v Speaker 3>the year for me.

1724
01:25:55.880 --> 01:25:58.600
<v Speaker 8>Was going on Sam Hys podcast. I was kind of

1725
01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:00.520
<v Speaker 8>a thing I was looking forward to from any years.

1726
01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:03.119
<v Speaker 8>I didn't think that was actually gonna happen, so so

1727
01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:04.159
<v Speaker 8>that's what I kind of enjoy.

1728
01:26:04.199 --> 01:26:04.520
<v Speaker 3>The most.

1729
01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:06.520
<v Speaker 8>I've had a lot of fun doing a lot of these,

1730
01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:09.119
<v Speaker 8>you know, stupid songs that I make up on the fly.

1731
01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:10.039
<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of fun.

1732
01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:12.479
<v Speaker 8>So that I get the most joy out of doing

1733
01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:16.600
<v Speaker 8>the comedic kind of just wild live streams. People really

1734
01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:19.640
<v Speaker 8>like the debates and I get a lot of support

1735
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:21.439
<v Speaker 8>from that, so I don't mind doing it, but it's

1736
01:26:21.479 --> 01:26:22.800
<v Speaker 8>not actually my favorite thing to do.

1737
01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:28.399
<v Speaker 6>Now I think this is a good chance. Actually, I

1738
01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:30.279
<v Speaker 6>know you stream on a bunch of different platforms. You

1739
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:31.479
<v Speaker 6>mentioned rock Finn earlier.

1740
01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:34.359
<v Speaker 7>For those of us that are just so buried on

1741
01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:37.560
<v Speaker 7>Twitter to get our conspiracy content, you kind of have

1742
01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:40.720
<v Speaker 7>to go to these other platforms exactly because you sit

1743
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:41.479
<v Speaker 7>down and whatnot.

1744
01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:44.079
<v Speaker 6>Can you give us some where where would you find you?

1745
01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Where?

1746
01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:45.520
<v Speaker 6>Where are you streaming your stuff to?

1747
01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:51.359
<v Speaker 8>Well, I've amazingly, miraculously have always been able to thank God,

1748
01:26:51.439 --> 01:26:54.680
<v Speaker 8>to still be on YouTube, so I'm always there. I

1749
01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:58.239
<v Speaker 8>don't obviously post kind of the spicier stuff there. That's

1750
01:26:58.359 --> 01:27:00.680
<v Speaker 8>a lot of times for like members and stuff, because

1751
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:02.840
<v Speaker 8>I have a members section and all that. We've done

1752
01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:06.000
<v Speaker 8>that for about ten years. But yeah, I am on

1753
01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:08.439
<v Speaker 8>rock fin and I'm a big fan of rock fan

1754
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:10.720
<v Speaker 8>because first of all, they've been really good to me.

1755
01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:14.520
<v Speaker 8>They've been a huge supporter for about three maybe four

1756
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:17.800
<v Speaker 8>years now. They were really i think innovating in terms

1757
01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:21.319
<v Speaker 8>of you know, paying people in crypto and moving in

1758
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:21.880
<v Speaker 8>that direction.

1759
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:23.439
<v Speaker 3>I think that was a good move.

1760
01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:26.399
<v Speaker 8>And that that helped me, I think a lot in

1761
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:29.239
<v Speaker 8>terms of just even learning, you know, the mechanics of

1762
01:27:29.279 --> 01:27:32.520
<v Speaker 8>a lot of stuff with crypto, just because they i mean,

1763
01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:34.439
<v Speaker 8>if they pay you in crypto, you're kind of like

1764
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:37.199
<v Speaker 8>forced to, like, you know, learn all that element in

1765
01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:39.479
<v Speaker 8>that side of stuff because I wasn't really into ethereum

1766
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:42.760
<v Speaker 8>and learning about and understanding how all the DEXes work

1767
01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:45.479
<v Speaker 8>and all that even when I was into crypto, until

1768
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:47.439
<v Speaker 8>you know, okay, well now you have to be involved

1769
01:27:47.439 --> 01:27:50.680
<v Speaker 8>in it because they're paying you in a crypto built

1770
01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:53.520
<v Speaker 8>on ethereum. So so yeah, I'm always on rock Fin,

1771
01:27:53.560 --> 01:27:56.640
<v Speaker 8>and I think they have a great model because it's

1772
01:27:57.159 --> 01:28:00.640
<v Speaker 8>it's kind of like Netflix, except that when you subscribe

1773
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:04.760
<v Speaker 8>to the members content on the Netflix, on rock Fin,

1774
01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:07.600
<v Speaker 8>you get access to everybody. So they have this unique

1775
01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:10.840
<v Speaker 8>model of like you pay fifteen dollars or whatever and

1776
01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:15.159
<v Speaker 8>you get everybody's paid content. So and they're pretty good

1777
01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:21.159
<v Speaker 8>about like free speech over there. So I'm a big

1778
01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:23.319
<v Speaker 8>fan of Rock I think we you know, I kind

1779
01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:25.840
<v Speaker 8>of linked up with rock Fan before there was Rumble

1780
01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:28.960
<v Speaker 8>popping off, so I never really I had some Rumble

1781
01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:30.760
<v Speaker 8>people reach out a couple times and when I talked

1782
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:33.840
<v Speaker 8>with them, but the situation that I had with rock

1783
01:28:33.880 --> 01:28:36.279
<v Speaker 8>Fan was just so much superior to kind of what

1784
01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:40.039
<v Speaker 8>Rumble could offer. And I'm not anti Rumble, like I

1785
01:28:40.039 --> 01:28:42.399
<v Speaker 8>still have a lot of content stuff over on Rumble,

1786
01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:44.760
<v Speaker 8>it's just I'm not There are a lot of long

1787
01:28:44.760 --> 01:28:48.640
<v Speaker 8>story short I put most of my time into YouTube

1788
01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:52.560
<v Speaker 8>and Twitter and rock Fin and then I'm also on

1789
01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:55.680
<v Speaker 8>Instagram quite a bit, and I do have a TikTok,

1790
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:58.439
<v Speaker 8>but I keep every time I put up so I

1791
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:01.119
<v Speaker 8>get a strike. And so since I built up five

1792
01:29:01.119 --> 01:29:04.640
<v Speaker 8>thousand followers on TikTok, I have two strikes and I'm

1793
01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:05.359
<v Speaker 8>waiting for those.

1794
01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:06.920
<v Speaker 3>To go away. So I don't really I'm not really

1795
01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:07.520
<v Speaker 3>putting much.

1796
01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:09.279
<v Speaker 8>Stuff, but I find that really the only thing I

1797
01:29:09.279 --> 01:29:12.439
<v Speaker 8>can get away with on TikTok is like clips of

1798
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:14.840
<v Speaker 8>religious debates, So it's like that's it. Like anything else

1799
01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:17.840
<v Speaker 8>I put up immediately gets a community violation.

1800
01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:19.279
<v Speaker 3>So it's just super annoying.

1801
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:24.119
<v Speaker 8>I've always hated TikTok, but and even though I'm kind

1802
01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:26.720
<v Speaker 8>of shadow banded on Instagram, I can still get away

1803
01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:27.760
<v Speaker 8>with quite a bit over there too.

1804
01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.720
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, those are places to define me.

1805
01:29:31.079 --> 01:29:33.920
<v Speaker 8>All the fourth hours that I've done of Alex over

1806
01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:36.279
<v Speaker 8>the last four years, those are all on bandout Video.

1807
01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:41.000
<v Speaker 8>Most of that's also migrated to Twitter and rock Finn too,

1808
01:29:41.159 --> 01:29:43.279
<v Speaker 8>so so yeah, you can find me at these place.

1809
01:29:43.319 --> 01:29:45.520
<v Speaker 8>Also at my website, jason Alsis dot COM's all the

1810
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.760
<v Speaker 8>archive material, so yeah, that's where you can find me.

1811
01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:52.479
<v Speaker 6>Are you ever doing any Twitter streams like live Twitter streams?

1812
01:29:52.760 --> 01:29:54.520
<v Speaker 7>I know, I just know X is getting bigger, like

1813
01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:56.520
<v Speaker 7>Elon has been pushing the video platform.

1814
01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:57.479
<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying.

1815
01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:00.760
<v Speaker 8>So I tried a little bit, and I was using

1816
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:03.439
<v Speaker 8>stream labs to multi stream, and it was just kept

1817
01:30:03.439 --> 01:30:07.560
<v Speaker 8>being a big hassle. And I noticed that if I

1818
01:30:07.640 --> 01:30:10.479
<v Speaker 8>live stream to Twitter, I actually get less views than

1819
01:30:10.479 --> 01:30:12.720
<v Speaker 8>if I just post the entire video to Twitter.

1820
01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:14.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh it's so interesting.

1821
01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:17.479
<v Speaker 8>At this stage, there's not really much of an advantage

1822
01:30:17.479 --> 01:30:19.800
<v Speaker 8>for me. It's actually a disadvantage to try to multi stream.

1823
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:23.199
<v Speaker 7>I'll understand that. Okay, my last question for you don't

1824
01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:25.880
<v Speaker 7>want to take any more of your time. When a

1825
01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:29.600
<v Speaker 7>world event happens, where are you going to get your

1826
01:30:29.640 --> 01:30:32.079
<v Speaker 7>news and how are you discerning it?

1827
01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:33.159
<v Speaker 3>You know, I.

1828
01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:36.159
<v Speaker 8>Usually follow the model of checking a lot of different

1829
01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:39.399
<v Speaker 8>sources because I want to see even what the mainstream

1830
01:30:39.439 --> 01:30:42.159
<v Speaker 8>is saying. So I'm going to look up like a

1831
01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:45.359
<v Speaker 8>lot of the alternative news sites. I'll check info Wars,

1832
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:48.520
<v Speaker 8>I'll check even mainstream stuff like Drudge. I mean, I

1833
01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:49.960
<v Speaker 8>know it's terrible, but I want to see what the

1834
01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:51.319
<v Speaker 8>narrative of the establishment is.

1835
01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:52.000
<v Speaker 3>So I go there.

1836
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:56.000
<v Speaker 8>I will obviously check Twitter, what's trending, I'll check all

1837
01:30:56.000 --> 01:30:59.199
<v Speaker 8>the different you know, latest videos. And I remember, like

1838
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:02.479
<v Speaker 8>you said, like it's burned into my mind in March

1839
01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:06.840
<v Speaker 8>of twenty twenty, looking at all of those viral videos

1840
01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:09.359
<v Speaker 8>of the people collapsing in China, you know what I mean,

1841
01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:11.520
<v Speaker 8>Like and thinking looking back on that as like that's

1842
01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:13.479
<v Speaker 8>all probably a much a bullshit, that's probably all fake,

1843
01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:14.039
<v Speaker 8>you know what I mean?

1844
01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Like, why was there from covid? I meant I.

1845
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:20.359
<v Speaker 8>Got the flu or whatever they was saying was quote

1846
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:23.840
<v Speaker 8>covid during the and I didn't fall over and pass

1847
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:26.560
<v Speaker 8>out like some thirty pound Asian dude.

1848
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:29.159
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, I don't know what that was.

1849
01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:32.800
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, I mean I'm gonna be checking you know,

1850
01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:35.800
<v Speaker 8>obviously Twitter and places like that.

1851
01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Telegram, I do use Telegram.

1852
01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:40.239
<v Speaker 8>I forgot about Telegram drives me crazy because I don't

1853
01:31:40.239 --> 01:31:43.000
<v Speaker 8>know how I like, I've had the same five thousand

1854
01:31:43.079 --> 01:31:46.399
<v Speaker 8>followers on Telegram for like a year, so it never grows.

1855
01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:48.119
<v Speaker 8>I don't know what the secret is to that. I

1856
01:31:48.199 --> 01:31:50.199
<v Speaker 8>just I post shit on there and I just kind

1857
01:31:50.199 --> 01:31:53.960
<v Speaker 8>of ignore it. I also can't stand the layout of Telegram.

1858
01:31:53.960 --> 01:31:56.439
<v Speaker 8>It gets on nurse, but I guess it's necessary to

1859
01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:58.520
<v Speaker 8>have all these things. But also Telegram does have some

1860
01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:01.600
<v Speaker 8>good channels for news and information that are not, you know,

1861
01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:02.840
<v Speaker 8>us censored.

1862
01:32:03.920 --> 01:32:06.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've also noticed this. It's probably all you guys

1863
01:32:06.479 --> 01:32:07.640
<v Speaker 3>are way ahead of me on this, but.

1864
01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:12.000
<v Speaker 8>I've noticed that yandex actually is Google from twenty fourteen.

1865
01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:14.800
<v Speaker 8>So everything that you looked up and you wanted to find,

1866
01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:19.199
<v Speaker 8>like even like obscure conspiracy blogs and websites, if you

1867
01:32:19.319 --> 01:32:21.800
<v Speaker 8>use yandex, it's exactly what Google used to be in

1868
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:26.359
<v Speaker 8>like twenty fourteen. You're just breaking news to me. I've

1869
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:28.960
<v Speaker 8>never heard of this. Yeah, it's like it's a Russian

1870
01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:32.880
<v Speaker 8>search engine that basically doesn't sensor, so it's one of

1871
01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:34.039
<v Speaker 8>their bigger search engines.

1872
01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:37.279
<v Speaker 3>It's better than Doug dug O. Doug dug O sucks,

1873
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:40.680
<v Speaker 3>but yandex Worth Well, okay, good to know.

1874
01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:43.920
<v Speaker 6>This is this is this is world changing here, folks.

1875
01:32:44.439 --> 01:32:47.520
<v Speaker 8>Well, it's huge for like research, right because like if

1876
01:32:47.560 --> 01:32:51.119
<v Speaker 8>you remembered a bunch of articles or papers or essays

1877
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:53.399
<v Speaker 8>you know from like twenty ten, twenty two thousand and

1878
01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:54.920
<v Speaker 8>eight that you can't find anymore.

1879
01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean Google is tweaked to not let you find

1880
01:32:58.880 --> 01:32:59.960
<v Speaker 3>that shit on purpose, you know.

1881
01:33:01.239 --> 01:33:04.560
<v Speaker 6>Oh it's crazy. Oh, I appreciate this all right. I

1882
01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:08.079
<v Speaker 6>know you got a new book. We got what's it

1883
01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:08.520
<v Speaker 6>called here?

1884
01:33:09.479 --> 01:33:11.720
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's kind of like a collection of all of

1885
01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:14.760
<v Speaker 8>the blog posts for about ten years for the most part.

1886
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:16.920
<v Speaker 8>Now it's all the blog posts that aren't the Hollywood

1887
01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:19.960
<v Speaker 8>movies because the Hollywood analyzes those are all in ESWODEARK

1888
01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:20.800
<v Speaker 8>Hollywood one and two.

1889
01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:23.600
<v Speaker 3>So those are separate books that came out several years ago.

1890
01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:27.159
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, that's the most recent book that I've been

1891
01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:30.159
<v Speaker 8>pushing for the last year, and it's just kind of

1892
01:33:30.279 --> 01:33:32.640
<v Speaker 8>a way to keep and save all the things that

1893
01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:36.479
<v Speaker 8>I wrote for about ten years, because in twenty eighteen,

1894
01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:38.800
<v Speaker 8>my whole website got.

1895
01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Deleted by WordPress.

1896
01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:44.279
<v Speaker 8>So I was censored and deleted because I was covering

1897
01:33:44.279 --> 01:33:48.560
<v Speaker 8>controversial topics. I was deleted the same hour that Alex

1898
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:50.720
<v Speaker 8>was banned from everything, which is interesting because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 8>associated with Alex in twenty eighteen, but I was classed

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<v Speaker 8>in with that category, and so they just kind of

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<v Speaker 8>did a sweeping delete of of a bunch of people.

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<v Speaker 8>So I had to rebuild, you know, do everything kind

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<v Speaker 8>of from the ground up, build a new website and everything.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's just all that is is those essays about theology, philosophy, deal, politics,

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<v Speaker 8>and some other topics. But I'm working on Star Hollywood

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<v Speaker 8>Part three right now, so that'll be the completion of

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<v Speaker 8>the trilogy of the Hollywood books. So I've got a

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<v Speaker 8>little over around three hundred pages, so I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 8>write the last one hundred pages in the next couple

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<v Speaker 8>of months.

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<v Speaker 7>Epic comedian podcaster, author Jay Dyer, Dude, I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 7>your time.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much for coming on here.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you guys so much for being supporters and for

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<v Speaker 8>the donations, and really cool. Really appreciate you guys, and

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<v Speaker 8>keep up, keep up that Matt Hatter crazy ten full

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<v Speaker 8>Hatter ethos you got going.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we'll do man. I really appreciate you coming on here.

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<v Speaker 7>The idea is to kind of keep doing these. Yeah, obviously,

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<v Speaker 7>take break anytime. Take an inspiration from you, guys. I

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<v Speaker 7>am looking at kind of getting more video platform the

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<v Speaker 7>YouTube's and the and the other platforms coming.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm about to go live by the way, if anybody

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<v Speaker 8>wants to, I'm gonna do a breakdown of the We

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<v Speaker 8>do a lot of movie breakdowns, so if anybody saw

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<v Speaker 8>that movie Herotic, I thought that was pretty good. We're

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<v Speaker 8>gonna do a breakdown of that pretty soon here on

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<v Speaker 8>my channel.

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<v Speaker 7>Love it all right, folks, let's get over to Jay's

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<v Speaker 7>channel and watch that, ladies and gents, Chris, was Kyle

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<v Speaker 7>Levis your favorite ten fold realist not Theorist? Episode seven

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<v Speaker 7>of Sonic Shadows with Jay Dyer. Jay, thanks again, appreciate

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<v Speaker 7>this big time.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro any time.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks all right, man, we'll talk again.