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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your

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<v Speaker 1>daily comedy news. Today we'll take a look at who

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<v Speaker 1>won and lost comedy in twenty twenty five. I decided

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<v Speaker 1>for the weekends in January. I want to try out

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<v Speaker 1>some different things. January tends to be quiet. I've done

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<v Speaker 1>this in the past, especially during the pandemic. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of spread my wings on the weekends a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got some things i want to talk about. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I did the other day I

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<v Speaker 1>recorded two and a half hours with Mike from the

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<v Speaker 1>Letterman podcast, and I'll be chopping that up into various conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're hoping to do a lot of that this

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<v Speaker 1>year as it goes along, just trying to mix it

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit and keep it interesting. But today,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a look at who won and lost comedy

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five. The big winner in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had recorded this a month ago, this would

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<v Speaker 1>have been slam dunk, hands down, no doubt, nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. Only great. One hundred out of one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>five stars. Conan O'Brien had a fantastic year. Butt and

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with the butt the horrible murder of the

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<v Speaker 1>Reiner family taking place after the Hiners were at Conan

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<v Speaker 1>O'Brien's party. Now here's what I'm worried about. I assume

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<v Speaker 1>there'll be a trial. I assume the defense attorney will

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<v Speaker 1>try to keep the accused out of jail. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a lawyer. I'm a guy in a basement recording

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast. My fear is that said lawyer will want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask questions about what went down at the party,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've heard there was some shouting. There have also

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<v Speaker 1>been some anecdotes that, as the story goes, some people

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to call nine to one one and Conan said, no, please,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do you know, we're having a party here. It's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I could just see Conan getting dragged into a trial.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure Conan's going to have an awesome

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. He was having a pretty good twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, so let's focus on that. His year capped

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<v Speaker 1>with the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor, putting him

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<v Speaker 1>in some really really good company there. And boy, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like the industry going, Conan, we love you.

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<v Speaker 1>A listers coming out doing funny stuff. Conan just looking great.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple generations of comedians and writers, it was just saluting Conan.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody was like Conan O'Brien, that's crazy. It just consolidated

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<v Speaker 1>his legacy and the respect everyone has for him. And

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<v Speaker 1>he also crushed hosting the Oscars and immediately got invited

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<v Speaker 1>back to do next year. So the back to back

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<v Speaker 1>of the Oscars and the Mark Twain Prize. Just Conan

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<v Speaker 1>O'Brien just was the winner of comedy. I fear rough

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<v Speaker 1>seas ahead, but he was the winner of comedy in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five until one awful night in December. Nicki

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<v Speaker 1>Glazer had a great year. The year before she was

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Tom Brady Roast and people went, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>who's that? And then she hosted the Golden Globes and

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<v Speaker 1>crushed it. Got invited back to host the Golden Globes

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, you know, about a week, not about a week,

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<v Speaker 1>John in a week. I better write that down before

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<v Speaker 1>I pre tape a weekend and be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably should have mentioned the Golden Globes. A right.

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<v Speaker 1>I just added that to my list here, so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she had a great twenty twenty five. Now

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<v Speaker 1>are we at peak Nicki Glazer? Or is there more

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<v Speaker 1>to come? And I think we'll find out a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more a week from tonight when she hosts the Golden Globes.

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<v Speaker 1>But congratulations to Nicki Glazer in a year where he

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<v Speaker 1>transitioned from successful stand up to trusted industry utility. Interesting words.

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<v Speaker 1>There another big winner this year, Mark Maren. Congratulations to

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Maren, take that victory lap. He walked away from

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<v Speaker 1>his podcast on his own terms and had the special

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. If you listened to yesterday, Mark Maren's

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<v Speaker 1>special Panicked You'll fund It on HBO was the best

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<v Speaker 1>comedy special of the year. It just put Maren into

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<v Speaker 1>this statesman role. He was one of the critics of

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<v Speaker 1>the Riod Comedy Festival. Other comedians took shots at Maren,

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<v Speaker 1>which put him in the comedy zeitgeist. He took all

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<v Speaker 1>the slings and arrows, kept his honor shifted from a

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<v Speaker 1>commentator to a reference point inside comedy. That puts him

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the game. So Mark Marin one

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<v Speaker 1>of the winners of comedy in twenty twenty five. Another winner,

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<v Speaker 1>despite some rough seas, was Jimmy Kimmel. You May recalled

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Kimmel was pulled off the air for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but then he came back and just seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>the win into sales right now. The show extended another year.

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<v Speaker 1>There's talk that Kimmell wants to walk away in May

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty seven. I'll believe it when I see it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think when Colbert's show ends, that audience is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go somewhere. Some of the audience will just

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<v Speaker 1>go away. Some of the audience will just stare at

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<v Speaker 1>whatever CBS puts on anyway, whether it's a new show

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<v Speaker 1>or the Byron Allen thing. But some of the late

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<v Speaker 1>night people, I think we'll pick Kimmel over fallon. So

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<v Speaker 1>Kimmel's numbers are going to go up. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation with Mike Chisholm about this, and I'll share

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<v Speaker 1>it on one of the weekend episodes coming up this month.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Kimmel's my age, and if you're not doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? The oscars are heading to YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to be the YouTube post of the Oscars. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Kimmel, you're in your mid to late fifties, you

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<v Speaker 1>could work another twenty years, like a you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>nice to have money and sit on the beach, but

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<v Speaker 1>you need something to do. What would you do? Tour?

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<v Speaker 1>Stand up? A Netflix show? So I don't see why

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<v Speaker 1>he would walk away. Now might he arrange his schedule?

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<v Speaker 1>He already doesn't work summers? Could you cut down to

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<v Speaker 1>three days? Do the late period Johnny Carson thing? Someone

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<v Speaker 1>else host Monday and Kimmel shows up Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>and does I don't know, thirty four weeks a year

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<v Speaker 1>and takes the summer off and a long break at Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not do that Jimmy Kimmel. So I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy kim was gonna walk away, but he had a

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<v Speaker 1>great year. Other winners of twenty twenty five Adam Sandler,

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<v Speaker 1>despite my personal opinion, happy Gilmore too. People seem to

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<v Speaker 1>like it. Cast a big check, also helping my argument.

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<v Speaker 1>People have come around and realized, oh, Adam Sandler a

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<v Speaker 1>great dramatic actor. He was great and Jay Kelly, what

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<v Speaker 1>a great film. You should watch it. Let's all reward

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Sandler with an Academy Awards. He goes, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an Academy Award winning actor. I should do more of

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<v Speaker 1>that and less stupid songs. So Adam Sandler had a

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<v Speaker 1>great year. Robbie Hoffman went from who to everybody's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Robbie Hoffman. If you haven't watched that Netflix special,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fantastic. Another winner of twenty twenty five. As I

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<v Speaker 1>sat down and really thought about this, Roy Wood Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>So just about everybody, including me, liked his comedy special

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Now it's a year ago now, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not as fresh in your mind to say Chappelle, but

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<v Speaker 1>people really like that special, and people seem to really

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<v Speaker 1>like the CNN show. I'm not sure Have I Got

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<v Speaker 1>News for you? US version has a massive cultural zeitgeist,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems a reliable show, and it's regularly picked

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<v Speaker 1>up in the press. And most importantly, Roywood Junior bet

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<v Speaker 1>on himself when he didn't get the Daily Show Cheer.

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<v Speaker 1>He went, Okay, I gotta go do something else and

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<v Speaker 1>figure something out. And he went and did something else

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<v Speaker 1>and he figured out. So good on you, Roywood Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>You're one of the winners of twenty twenty five and

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<v Speaker 1>another winner this year. Now I'm not sure he won

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<v Speaker 1>the year, but he might win twenty twenty six is

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<v Speaker 1>Friend of the Show John Marcos SARRESI three time guest,

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<v Speaker 1>his special really resonated. Critics are noticing, mainstream press is noticing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think John Marco's going to have a really

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<v Speaker 1>big twenty twenty six and good for him because he's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are your winners. Will come back and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the losers of twenty twenty five. All right, Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>Max who lost comedy in twenty twenty five? I feel

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<v Speaker 1>very strongly about this. The big loser in comedy in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. The comedian who lost the year is

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Burr. Bill Burr, you lost the narrative. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>remind everybody a year ago. Early in the year, he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing a lot of media appearances and he was

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<v Speaker 1>getting criticized for his tone. He was defensive and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of interviews it just wasn't a good look. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people are down on Monday Morning podcast that it's low

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<v Speaker 1>energy and he's just talking about sports. Maybe that was

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<v Speaker 1>always true. And then he played the Reodd Comedy Festival,

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<v Speaker 1>and his defense of playing the Reodd Comedy Festival didn't

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<v Speaker 1>wash with anybody. Pete Davidson, for all my problems with

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<v Speaker 1>Pete david said, at least I can respect Pete Davidson

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<v Speaker 1>going they paid me a lot of money. I can

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<v Speaker 1>at least respect that because it's honest. But Burke came

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<v Speaker 1>away like, yeah, you know, they've got an Applebee's over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're all like, can you just admit that they

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<v Speaker 1>paid you? Well? Like stop. Burr kind of changed his

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<v Speaker 1>persona this year. You know, he's letting go of the young,

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<v Speaker 1>angry Bill Burr. We've now got the try and avoid

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<v Speaker 1>a loaded word here, but we've got the more thoughtful

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Burr. And then if you point that out, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets very defensive about it, and it just all spirals

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<v Speaker 1>down into hmm. Maybe Bill Burr and his audience are

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<v Speaker 1>heading in two different directions, and that's fine. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure Bill Burr had a good twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, he's the big loser of twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to comedy. Now, after I made my list,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this on crack dot com their headline this

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<v Speaker 1>comedian had humor's worst heel turn in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Now again, I saw this after I made my list,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you listen back to previous episodes. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dropping not even hints, but breadcrumbs about how

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<v Speaker 1>I felt about Burr's here Cracked Rights. Back in February,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Burr went on Monday Morning podcast and declared that

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<v Speaker 1>the billionaire class who's so division and exploit suffering among

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<v Speaker 1>the masses are rabbit dogs that need to be put down.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was before he talked to their booker. Wow. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>if this was a boxing match, We're fourteen seconds in

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<v Speaker 1>and Keegankelly and Crack dot Com just hit Bill Burr

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<v Speaker 1>in the chin, unblocked. What a shot at a good one?

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<v Speaker 1>Cracked Rights. In twenty twenty five, Old Billy Blood Money

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<v Speaker 1>went from the top voice of anti billionaire anger in

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<v Speaker 1>America to the court gesture for literal slavers. Considering how

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<v Speaker 1>Burr reveled in the aftermath of the violent death of

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<v Speaker 1>United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, shouting his support for the

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<v Speaker 1>accused shooter Luigi on every talk show and podcasts that

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<v Speaker 1>would have him, Burr's fan base was by far the

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<v Speaker 1>most inflamed of any re odd comic upon returning to

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<v Speaker 1>the US, and of course, Burr's imprudent handling out of

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<v Speaker 1>criticism didn't help his relationship with his listeners. Even now,

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<v Speaker 1>months later, the Monday Morning podcast fandom is still an

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<v Speaker 1>open revolt against the host. Every new episode immediately faces

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<v Speaker 1>a barrage of dislikes and negative comments. Just under one

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<v Speaker 1>video that they shared, one of the top comments reads,

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<v Speaker 1>You're just not funny anymore. Selling out to murderers just

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<v Speaker 1>seems to interfere with my laughter. Bill Burr, the big

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<v Speaker 1>loser of twenty twenty five. Some other losers, Pete Davidson,

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<v Speaker 1>not just for Riot. I think Pete had a bad year,

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<v Speaker 1>did a couple movies, not sure anybody cared about them.

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<v Speaker 1>He's out there sort of touring, takes breaks, seems like

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<v Speaker 1>he's okay. Then he seems like he's not okay, seems

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<v Speaker 1>like he's all over the place. So the net of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and again he's open about his mental health challenges, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he finds himself in a good place. But

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<v Speaker 1>from an industry standpoint, when you're making a project, you

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<v Speaker 1>look back at him walking away from Bupkis, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna hand him a show because you'll be afraid

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<v Speaker 1>that he's going to just walk away from it. You

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<v Speaker 1>hire Kevin Hart, because you know, Kevin Hart likes to

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<v Speaker 1>work and is going to show up for work. Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Hart has made it clear he's going to show up

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<v Speaker 1>for work. But with Pete, you know, you walk away

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<v Speaker 1>once and all the other stuff that surrounds you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just if you're making a project, let's just pick somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Pete Davidson's one of the losers of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. The other big loser of twenty twenty five. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the man's not a loser, but he is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the comedy losers of twenty twenty five. Stephen Colbert, And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's crazy, right, Hey, my job is to

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<v Speaker 1>host Late Night and I have the number one show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've kept the Late Show franchise going for a

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<v Speaker 1>decade and everything's great. Well, CBS disagrees, so we can

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<v Speaker 1>all love Stephen Colbert and he does a great job

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a good guy, and I think he's short

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<v Speaker 1>for president. But you lost the show maybe through no

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<v Speaker 1>fault of your own. Hey, I've been fired for no

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<v Speaker 1>fault of my own. But that makes for a lousy year.

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<v Speaker 1>And Stephen Colbert one of the losers in comedy in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. He might be one of the winners

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six. So much like we saw all

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<v Speaker 1>the love for Conan in twenty five, we probably will

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<v Speaker 1>as Colbert takes this not victory lap, but final lap.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'll see a lot of outpouring of love

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<v Speaker 1>for Stephen Colbert. So he's probably prime for a great year,

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<v Speaker 1>but just as I analyze twenty twenty five, he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the losers. And that is your comedy news for today.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Tomorrow's Monday three, a normal episode than at

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<v Speaker 1>noon episode one of Comedy Survivor. I think I scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook post for seven am Eastern as when voting opens,

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<v Speaker 1>So look for the Comedy Survivor logo and then go

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<v Speaker 1>in there and vote on Comedy Survivor and I'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you tomorrow. Twice