Speaker 1: Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your
Speaker 1: daily comedy news. Today we'll take a look at who
Speaker 1: won and lost comedy in twenty twenty five. I decided
Speaker 1: for the weekends in January. I want to try out
Speaker 1: some different things. January tends to be quiet. I've done
Speaker 1: this in the past, especially during the pandemic. I kind
Speaker 1: of spread my wings on the weekends a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I've got some things i want to talk about. Also,
Speaker 1: one of the things I did the other day I
Speaker 1: recorded two and a half hours with Mike from the
Speaker 1: Letterman podcast, and I'll be chopping that up into various conversations.
Speaker 1: And we're hoping to do a lot of that this
Speaker 1: year as it goes along, just trying to mix it
Speaker 1: up a little bit and keep it interesting. But today,
Speaker 1: let's take a look at who won and lost comedy
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. The big winner in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: If I had recorded this a month ago, this would
Speaker 1: have been slam dunk, hands down, no doubt, nothing to
Speaker 1: talk about. Only great. One hundred out of one hundred
Speaker 1: five stars. Conan O'Brien had a fantastic year. Butt and
Speaker 1: let's start with the butt the horrible murder of the
Speaker 1: Reiner family taking place after the Hiners were at Conan
Speaker 1: O'Brien's party. Now here's what I'm worried about. I assume
Speaker 1: there'll be a trial. I assume the defense attorney will
Speaker 1: try to keep the accused out of jail. And I'm
Speaker 1: not a lawyer. I'm a guy in a basement recording
Speaker 1: a podcast. My fear is that said lawyer will want
Speaker 1: to ask questions about what went down at the party,
Speaker 1: because we've heard there was some shouting. There have also
Speaker 1: been some anecdotes that, as the story goes, some people
Speaker 1: wanted to call nine to one one and Conan said, no, please,
Speaker 1: don't do you know, we're having a party here. It's okay.
Speaker 1: And I could just see Conan getting dragged into a trial.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure Conan's going to have an awesome
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. He was having a pretty good twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, so let's focus on that. His year capped
Speaker 1: with the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor, putting him
Speaker 1: in some really really good company there. And boy, it
Speaker 1: was just like the industry going, Conan, we love you.
Speaker 1: A listers coming out doing funny stuff. Conan just looking great.
Speaker 1: Multiple generations of comedians and writers, it was just saluting Conan.
Speaker 1: Nobody was like Conan O'Brien, that's crazy. It just consolidated
Speaker 1: his legacy and the respect everyone has for him. And
Speaker 1: he also crushed hosting the Oscars and immediately got invited
Speaker 1: back to do next year. So the back to back
Speaker 1: of the Oscars and the Mark Twain Prize. Just Conan
Speaker 1: O'Brien just was the winner of comedy. I fear rough
Speaker 1: seas ahead, but he was the winner of comedy in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five until one awful night in December. Nicki
Speaker 1: Glazer had a great year. The year before she was
Speaker 1: part of the Tom Brady Roast and people went, oh,
Speaker 1: who's that? And then she hosted the Golden Globes and
Speaker 1: crushed it. Got invited back to host the Golden Globes
Speaker 1: coming up, you know, about a week, not about a week,
Speaker 1: John in a week. I better write that down before
Speaker 1: I pre tape a weekend and be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably should have mentioned the Golden Globes. A right.
Speaker 1: I just added that to my list here, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, she had a great twenty twenty five. Now
Speaker 1: are we at peak Nicki Glazer? Or is there more
Speaker 1: to come? And I think we'll find out a lot
Speaker 1: more a week from tonight when she hosts the Golden Globes.
Speaker 1: But congratulations to Nicki Glazer in a year where he
Speaker 1: transitioned from successful stand up to trusted industry utility. Interesting words.
Speaker 1: There another big winner this year, Mark Maren. Congratulations to
Speaker 1: Mark Maren, take that victory lap. He walked away from
Speaker 1: his podcast on his own terms and had the special
Speaker 1: of the year. If you listened to yesterday, Mark Maren's
Speaker 1: special Panicked You'll fund It on HBO was the best
Speaker 1: comedy special of the year. It just put Maren into
Speaker 1: this statesman role. He was one of the critics of
Speaker 1: the Riod Comedy Festival. Other comedians took shots at Maren,
Speaker 1: which put him in the comedy zeitgeist. He took all
Speaker 1: the slings and arrows, kept his honor shifted from a
Speaker 1: commentator to a reference point inside comedy. That puts him
Speaker 1: at the top of the game. So Mark Marin one
Speaker 1: of the winners of comedy in twenty twenty five. Another winner,
Speaker 1: despite some rough seas, was Jimmy Kimmel. You May recalled
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel was pulled off the air for a little bit,
Speaker 1: but then he came back and just seems to have
Speaker 1: the win into sales right now. The show extended another year.
Speaker 1: There's talk that Kimmell wants to walk away in May
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty seven. I'll believe it when I see it,
Speaker 1: because I think when Colbert's show ends, that audience is
Speaker 1: going to go somewhere. Some of the audience will just
Speaker 1: go away. Some of the audience will just stare at
Speaker 1: whatever CBS puts on anyway, whether it's a new show
Speaker 1: or the Byron Allen thing. But some of the late
Speaker 1: night people, I think we'll pick Kimmel over fallon. So
Speaker 1: Kimmel's numbers are going to go up. And I had
Speaker 1: a conversation with Mike Chisholm about this, and I'll share
Speaker 1: it on one of the weekend episodes coming up this month.
Speaker 1: You know, Kimmel's my age, and if you're not doing that,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? The oscars are heading to YouTube.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be the YouTube post of the Oscars. So,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel, you're in your mid to late fifties, you
Speaker 1: could work another twenty years, like a you know, it's
Speaker 1: nice to have money and sit on the beach, but
Speaker 1: you need something to do. What would you do? Tour?
Speaker 1: Stand up? A Netflix show? So I don't see why
Speaker 1: he would walk away. Now might he arrange his schedule?
Speaker 1: He already doesn't work summers? Could you cut down to
Speaker 1: three days? Do the late period Johnny Carson thing? Someone
Speaker 1: else host Monday and Kimmel shows up Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday
Speaker 1: and does I don't know, thirty four weeks a year
Speaker 1: and takes the summer off and a long break at Christmas.
Speaker 1: Why not do that Jimmy Kimmel. So I'm not sure
Speaker 1: Jimmy kim was gonna walk away, but he had a
Speaker 1: great year. Other winners of twenty twenty five Adam Sandler,
Speaker 1: despite my personal opinion, happy Gilmore too. People seem to
Speaker 1: like it. Cast a big check, also helping my argument.
Speaker 1: People have come around and realized, oh, Adam Sandler a
Speaker 1: great dramatic actor. He was great and Jay Kelly, what
Speaker 1: a great film. You should watch it. Let's all reward
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler with an Academy Awards. He goes, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: an Academy Award winning actor. I should do more of
Speaker 1: that and less stupid songs. So Adam Sandler had a
Speaker 1: great year. Robbie Hoffman went from who to everybody's talking
Speaker 1: about Robbie Hoffman. If you haven't watched that Netflix special,
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. Another winner of twenty twenty five. As I
Speaker 1: sat down and really thought about this, Roy Wood Junior.
Speaker 1: So just about everybody, including me, liked his comedy special
Speaker 1: a lot. Now it's a year ago now, so it's
Speaker 1: not as fresh in your mind to say Chappelle, but
Speaker 1: people really like that special, and people seem to really
Speaker 1: like the CNN show. I'm not sure Have I Got
Speaker 1: News for you? US version has a massive cultural zeitgeist,
Speaker 1: but it seems a reliable show, and it's regularly picked
Speaker 1: up in the press. And most importantly, Roywood Junior bet
Speaker 1: on himself when he didn't get the Daily Show Cheer.
Speaker 1: He went, Okay, I gotta go do something else and
Speaker 1: figure something out. And he went and did something else
Speaker 1: and he figured out. So good on you, Roywood Junior.
Speaker 1: You're one of the winners of twenty twenty five and
Speaker 1: another winner this year. Now I'm not sure he won
Speaker 1: the year, but he might win twenty twenty six is
Speaker 1: Friend of the Show John Marcos SARRESI three time guest,
Speaker 1: his special really resonated. Critics are noticing, mainstream press is noticing,
Speaker 1: and I think John Marco's going to have a really
Speaker 1: big twenty twenty six and good for him because he's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Those are your winners. Will come back and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about the losers of twenty twenty five. All right, Johnny
Speaker 1: Max who lost comedy in twenty twenty five? I feel
Speaker 1: very strongly about this. The big loser in comedy in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. The comedian who lost the year is
Speaker 1: Bill Burr. Bill Burr, you lost the narrative. Let me
Speaker 1: remind everybody a year ago. Early in the year, he
Speaker 1: was doing a lot of media appearances and he was
Speaker 1: getting criticized for his tone. He was defensive and a
Speaker 1: lot of interviews it just wasn't a good look. Some
Speaker 1: people are down on Monday Morning podcast that it's low
Speaker 1: energy and he's just talking about sports. Maybe that was
Speaker 1: always true. And then he played the Reodd Comedy Festival,
Speaker 1: and his defense of playing the Reodd Comedy Festival didn't
Speaker 1: wash with anybody. Pete Davidson, for all my problems with
Speaker 1: Pete david said, at least I can respect Pete Davidson
Speaker 1: going they paid me a lot of money. I can
Speaker 1: at least respect that because it's honest. But Burke came
Speaker 1: away like, yeah, you know, they've got an Applebee's over there,
Speaker 1: and we're all like, can you just admit that they
Speaker 1: paid you? Well? Like stop. Burr kind of changed his
Speaker 1: persona this year. You know, he's letting go of the young,
Speaker 1: angry Bill Burr. We've now got the try and avoid
Speaker 1: a loaded word here, but we've got the more thoughtful
Speaker 1: Bill Burr. And then if you point that out, he
Speaker 1: gets very defensive about it, and it just all spirals
Speaker 1: down into hmm. Maybe Bill Burr and his audience are
Speaker 1: heading in two different directions, and that's fine. But I'm
Speaker 1: not sure Bill Burr had a good twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: In fact, he's the big loser of twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: when it comes to comedy. Now, after I made my list,
Speaker 1: I saw this on crack dot com their headline this
Speaker 1: comedian had humor's worst heel turn in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Now again, I saw this after I made my list,
Speaker 1: And if you listen back to previous episodes. I've been
Speaker 1: kind of dropping not even hints, but breadcrumbs about how
Speaker 1: I felt about Burr's here Cracked Rights. Back in February,
Speaker 1: Bill Burr went on Monday Morning podcast and declared that
Speaker 1: the billionaire class who's so division and exploit suffering among
Speaker 1: the masses are rabbit dogs that need to be put down.
Speaker 1: But that was before he talked to their booker. Wow. Wow,
Speaker 1: if this was a boxing match, We're fourteen seconds in
Speaker 1: and Keegankelly and Crack dot Com just hit Bill Burr
Speaker 1: in the chin, unblocked. What a shot at a good one?
Speaker 1: Cracked Rights. In twenty twenty five, Old Billy Blood Money
Speaker 1: went from the top voice of anti billionaire anger in
Speaker 1: America to the court gesture for literal slavers. Considering how
Speaker 1: Burr reveled in the aftermath of the violent death of
Speaker 1: United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, shouting his support for the
Speaker 1: accused shooter Luigi on every talk show and podcasts that
Speaker 1: would have him, Burr's fan base was by far the
Speaker 1: most inflamed of any re odd comic upon returning to
Speaker 1: the US, and of course, Burr's imprudent handling out of
Speaker 1: criticism didn't help his relationship with his listeners. Even now,
Speaker 1: months later, the Monday Morning podcast fandom is still an
Speaker 1: open revolt against the host. Every new episode immediately faces
Speaker 1: a barrage of dislikes and negative comments. Just under one
Speaker 1: video that they shared, one of the top comments reads,
Speaker 1: You're just not funny anymore. Selling out to murderers just
Speaker 1: seems to interfere with my laughter. Bill Burr, the big
Speaker 1: loser of twenty twenty five. Some other losers, Pete Davidson,
Speaker 1: not just for Riot. I think Pete had a bad year,
Speaker 1: did a couple movies, not sure anybody cared about them.
Speaker 1: He's out there sort of touring, takes breaks, seems like
Speaker 1: he's okay. Then he seems like he's not okay, seems
Speaker 1: like he's all over the place. So the net of that,
Speaker 1: and again he's open about his mental health challenges, and
Speaker 1: I hope he finds himself in a good place. But
Speaker 1: from an industry standpoint, when you're making a project, you
Speaker 1: look back at him walking away from Bupkis, So you're
Speaker 1: not gonna hand him a show because you'll be afraid
Speaker 1: that he's going to just walk away from it. You
Speaker 1: hire Kevin Hart, because you know, Kevin Hart likes to
Speaker 1: work and is going to show up for work. Kevin
Speaker 1: Hart has made it clear he's going to show up
Speaker 1: for work. But with Pete, you know, you walk away
Speaker 1: once and all the other stuff that surrounds you. It's
Speaker 1: just if you're making a project, let's just pick somebody else.
Speaker 1: I think Pete Davidson's one of the losers of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. The other big loser of twenty twenty five. Now,
Speaker 1: the man's not a loser, but he is one of
Speaker 1: the comedy losers of twenty twenty five. Stephen Colbert, And
Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy, right, Hey, my job is to
Speaker 1: host Late Night and I have the number one show,
Speaker 1: and I've kept the Late Show franchise going for a
Speaker 1: decade and everything's great. Well, CBS disagrees, so we can
Speaker 1: all love Stephen Colbert and he does a great job
Speaker 1: and he's a good guy, and I think he's short
Speaker 1: for president. But you lost the show maybe through no
Speaker 1: fault of your own. Hey, I've been fired for no
Speaker 1: fault of my own. But that makes for a lousy year.
Speaker 1: And Stephen Colbert one of the losers in comedy in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. He might be one of the winners
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six. So much like we saw all
Speaker 1: the love for Conan in twenty five, we probably will
Speaker 1: as Colbert takes this not victory lap, but final lap.
Speaker 1: I think we'll see a lot of outpouring of love
Speaker 1: for Stephen Colbert. So he's probably prime for a great year,
Speaker 1: but just as I analyze twenty twenty five, he's one
Speaker 1: of the losers. And that is your comedy news for today.
Speaker 1: All right, Tomorrow's Monday three, a normal episode than at
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Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Twice