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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America

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<v Speaker 2>and Jim Garrity of National Review.

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<v Speaker 1>Free Martini's coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>So glad you're with us for the Friday edition of

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<v Speaker 3>The Three Martini Lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>So much to get to today.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to be talking about a number of things,

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<v Speaker 3>including the latest on the TikTok ban, which still isn't

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<v Speaker 3>a ban and now it looks like it'll never be

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<v Speaker 3>a ban. Why is this so hard to actually implement

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<v Speaker 3>this law. We'll talk about what the new arrangement with

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok is and why it seems to be falling short.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll also be taking a look at.

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<v Speaker 3>Pam Bondi and the Justice Department actually making some arrests

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<v Speaker 3>and response to the invasion of the church on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 3>including the guy that we played in the clip on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's pretty gratifying, and we'll be taking a look.

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<v Speaker 3>As we head into NFL Conference Championship weekend, the San

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<v Speaker 3>Francisco forty nine ers are not in the final four.

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<v Speaker 3>They got slaughtered by the Seahawks last week, but they

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<v Speaker 3>fact that they got to the divisional round despite a

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<v Speaker 3>raft of injury to keep players this year. They're now

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<v Speaker 3>investigating whether the fact that their practice facility is next

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<v Speaker 3>to an electrical substation could be responsible for injuries this

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<v Speaker 3>year and.

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<v Speaker 2>In prior years well. Also time permitting.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about the huge storm that's expected to hit a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the South and the East Coast this week.

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<v Speaker 2>So tons to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg, you have one of the best voices I have

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<v Speaker 3>main stores in select states. All right, Jim Great, first Martini,

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<v Speaker 3>And this story was actually breaking about the time we

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<v Speaker 3>started recording yesterday, but now we can addle a few

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<v Speaker 3>more details to it. Three people have now been arrested

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<v Speaker 3>in conjunction with those anti ice protests that barged into

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<v Speaker 3>the city's church on Sunday, disrupting worship services. Video E

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<v Speaker 3>saw videos of the kids crying. We played the clip

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<v Speaker 3>of the guy just screaming like he was either on.

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<v Speaker 2>Drugs or possessed. Take your pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe William Kelly. We don't need to just prefer

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<v Speaker 1>him as the guy. We've now got a mug shot

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<v Speaker 1>for him. Sorry to step on the news.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>So the first two arrests yesterday, we're Nikima Levy Armstrong,

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<v Speaker 3>who was kind of the ringleader of the whole deal,

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<v Speaker 3>and then also Chantelle Luisa Allen. And yes, William Kelly,

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<v Speaker 3>the guy who has not only been part of that protest,

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<v Speaker 3>but many protests at Christ Church in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been spotted in New Orleans trying to worshippers all

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<v Speaker 3>over the place. So he is finally in custody. Don Lemon,

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<v Speaker 3>you can tell he really wishes he was arrested, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's not. The judge would not sign off on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure why, but nonetheless, Jim, it's good to

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<v Speaker 3>see arrests being made here because, as we've explained earlier

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<v Speaker 3>in the week, this was clearly a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Greg, we're not fans of Don Lemon on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, but this is where we can find common

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<v Speaker 1>ground with Don Lemon. We'd like to see him frog

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<v Speaker 1>marched in handcuffs. To use the infamous phrase of Ambassador

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Wilson, apparently it is not to be or it

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<v Speaker 1>is not to be based on the current evidence. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw people pointing out that the judge reportedly as a

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<v Speaker 1>spouse who works in the Minnesota Attorney General's office. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's the case. I would point out

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact that certain figures were arrested, that there

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<v Speaker 1>was sufficient evidence to get an arrest warrant indicates that

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<v Speaker 1>this is not the judge rejecting all evidence out of

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<v Speaker 1>hand and doing what he had to protect it if

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<v Speaker 1>clearly there's some threshold of evidence and some of them

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<v Speaker 1>were made, some of them were not, we can still

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<v Speaker 1>hold out hope that at some point Don Lemon will

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<v Speaker 1>get his wish and that we will finally get to

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<v Speaker 1>see that. I'm sure he would think we would make

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<v Speaker 1>great television. You know, it's almost the old expression here,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even get arrested in the case of Don Lemon,

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<v Speaker 1>literally he cannot get arrested despite me or recording himself

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<v Speaker 1>disrupting church services and things like that. But look, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>William Kelly, based on both that video and the let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say scruffy looking mugshot that he's got here, seems

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<v Speaker 1>like exactly the kind of guy where if you see

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<v Speaker 1>him on a street corner shouting, you're probably gonna cross

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<v Speaker 1>the street to just avoid him. I think we've all

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<v Speaker 1>run into that type of personality and that kind of persona. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they'll have their day in court. They'll have

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<v Speaker 1>either court appointed attorneys, or maybe they'll afford attorneys, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Soros will shell out for some nice, high priced

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<v Speaker 1>attorney or something like that. But all in all, they

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<v Speaker 1>look like it certainly appears that they committed a federal crime.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll be prosecuted for it and hopefully a jury will

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<v Speaker 1>hold them accountable. Either way, it is good news in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty rare thing these.

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<v Speaker 3>Days, no no doubt about it. Good news on the charges.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting a conviction in Minneapolis, Minnesota on this could be

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<v Speaker 3>a tricky deal. We'll find out, but the evidence should

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<v Speaker 3>be cut and dried. I'm not sure what the penalty

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<v Speaker 3>for this is, but good on the Justice Department for

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<v Speaker 3>what should be an obvious need for prosecution there and

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<v Speaker 3>they did it.

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<v Speaker 2>So good deal. All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you're dealing with the weather in Minnesota, or

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<v Speaker 3>if you're just bracing for what's coming to the South

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<v Speaker 3>And if you had been using one skin, you'd definitely

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<v Speaker 3>be ready. Missus Corumbus has talked about how nicely it

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<v Speaker 3>of products from one skin that can definitely help you out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you think about it. In summer, it's hot,

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<v Speaker 1>just going through like this marathon. They're like four days

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<v Speaker 3>you all right, Jim onto our bad Martini also the

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<v Speaker 3>subject of today's Morning Jolt. And you know, back in

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<v Speaker 3>the I guess the last year of the Biden administration,

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<v Speaker 3>Congress passed the TikTok Ban as it was known, basically

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<v Speaker 3>forcing TikTok to no longer be owned by Byte Dance,

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<v Speaker 3>had to be completely divested of any company that was

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<v Speaker 3>connected to the Chinese government. It was upheld by the

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court nine to nothing, and ever since then it's

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<v Speaker 3>basically been kicked down the road by the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 3>for the most part, in terms of actually implementing this law.

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<v Speaker 3>At different times, Trump has talked about, you know, other

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<v Speaker 3>people taking it over. He mentioned Larry Allison at one point,

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<v Speaker 3>He mentioned other people at one point. Well, now there's

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<v Speaker 3>a deal in place, but the deal does not exactly

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<v Speaker 3>fit with what the law calls for, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>complete devestment of Byte Dance, because the Bike Dance still

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<v Speaker 3>controls twenty percent of the company, and as you point

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<v Speaker 3>out in the Jolt today, that means Byte Dance still

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<v Speaker 3>certainly has a say in how tik Talk functions, which

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<v Speaker 3>means propaganda and other things. And possibly I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe you've dug into this as well, data harvesting,

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<v Speaker 3>basically Chinese spyware.

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<v Speaker 2>Will it still be that going forward here?

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<v Speaker 3>So what exactly is the deal and what's the reality

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<v Speaker 3>for its compliance or non compliance with the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Greg, you said this the current arrangement that

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<v Speaker 1>was now finalized yesterday, it does not fit with the

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<v Speaker 1>existing past law. That's another way of saying violates the law. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Byte Dance gets to keep nineteen point nine percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the US version of TikTok. The You know, everybody who

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<v Speaker 1>was worried about this from a national security perspective, all

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<v Speaker 1>the China hawks, all the big people who saw this,

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<v Speaker 1>none of them are satisfied with this. And these are

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<v Speaker 1>folks like you know, folks not just with the Hudson Institute,

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<v Speaker 1>good solid conservative hawkish types. Mark Short, former of Vice

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<v Speaker 1>President Mike Pence's chief of staff. He was Director of

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<v Speaker 1>Legislative Affairs in Trump's first term. These are not knee

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<v Speaker 1>jerk Trump critics. These are not people who are automatically

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<v Speaker 1>going to denounce the president whatever he says. And the

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<v Speaker 1>whole playing Well, don't worry, the US licenses the algorithm. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't really address the core problem here, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the problem was being used to feed out messages that

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<v Speaker 1>were hostile to American interests and to suppress messages that were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, supportive of American interests or critical of the

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese state. Right, and so one of the things they

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<v Speaker 1>point out is that, well, don't worry, we have full

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<v Speaker 1>inspection of the algorithm. Well, why do you feel the

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<v Speaker 1>need to inspect the algorithm because the algorithm is even

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<v Speaker 1>used to pump foreign propaganda into people's mind, Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>this thing like, no, the problem is the algorithm. You

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<v Speaker 1>would need a different algorithm to resolve this, right. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>technically there's a US entity that is in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>moderating the content seven member majority of American board, TikTok's

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<v Speaker 1>Chief executive officer, Shao Chu, who gets to have a

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<v Speaker 1>seat on the board. But the person who was TikTok's

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<v Speaker 1>head of operations, Adam Presser, is the new CEO. People

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<v Speaker 1>That's good is Adam Presser has been with TikTok in

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<v Speaker 1>senior executive role since April twenty twenty two. So I

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<v Speaker 1>went back through some of the most notorious examples of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. Then twelve days later they said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an error, you know, just because we just

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, they shut down the Actin Institute after

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<v Speaker 1>her post messages promoting Jimmy Lai and criticizing the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>Communist Party. All this time, Presser was the TikTok vice

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<v Speaker 1>president in chief of staff. You know, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who was oh off in some branch office

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty three, the Hamas attack on Israel, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, TikTok users are getting all these anti Israel

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<v Speaker 1>and pro Hamas messages, and the guy go back on

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<v Speaker 1>it works through the algorithm and says, the moment you

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<v Speaker 1>clicked on one of these, your fee just started filling

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<v Speaker 1>up with more and more of it. Right. November twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, TikTok users suddenly start approvingly this two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and two letter from Osama bin Laden and saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>bin Laden made a lot of good useful points. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he did not, right, But the question is like, how

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<v Speaker 1>does something from two thousand and two suddenly go big

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<v Speaker 1>and go viral all over TikTok and what caused that?

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<v Speaker 1>That has to be the algorithm, right. Rutgers University does

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<v Speaker 1>a study December twenty twenty three and says, look, there's

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<v Speaker 1>just no way that the information's critical of the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>government has this low traffic, and information that is supportive

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<v Speaker 1>of the Chinese government has this much traffic without somebody

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<v Speaker 1>playing with the algorithm. It's just no way that this

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<v Speaker 1>is naturally occurring this entire time. Presser is head of

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<v Speaker 1>operations for TikTok. So you're like, oh, don't worry, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got an American in church. We've got the American who's been

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<v Speaker 1>in senior roles during all the problem times. But all

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<v Speaker 1>the other times we've had these problems with the algorithm.

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<v Speaker 1>So why would we think that this algorithm is going

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<v Speaker 1>to suddenly get a whole lot better when you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the same guy running the operation. I don't see how

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<v Speaker 1>this is consistent with US interests. Last night on True

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<v Speaker 1>Social Trump goes on talks about how much he loves TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>and TikTok loves young people, young people love him. He

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<v Speaker 1>also says, I would also like to thank President g

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<v Speaker 1>of China for working with us and ultimately approving the deal. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing that makes me feel warmer or fuzzier than

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<v Speaker 1>having the president of the United States gush about how

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<v Speaker 1>great the Chinese, the dictator in China is and how

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful it is to work with them, how great they

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<v Speaker 3>So reassuring the question about the data harvesting, Has that

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<v Speaker 3>gotten any better, because that's probably the biggest national security concern.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same algorithm. They say, Oh, don't worry, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to stay in the United States. But again, Bite

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<v Speaker 1>Dance has a twenty percent stake in all that, So

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<v Speaker 1>what's preventing them from also, like if TikTok, if China

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to use TikTok as a weapon of leverage, if

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<v Speaker 1>they were using it to to gather dirt on people,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're using it to track the locations of US

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<v Speaker 1>service personnel or US government employees or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>well they already have all that data. The horse says

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<v Speaker 1>the bar. The whole herd left the bar. The entire

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Derby has run out of the barn at top speed.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we can close the barn door. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure how much is going to mitigate the damage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this seemed like an easy win. It was overwhelmingly

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so how.

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<v Speaker 3>This continues to unfold like this, I'm not quite sure. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>Application times and rates may vary, all right, Jim, Once again,

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<v Speaker 3>our teams are not buying for a conference championship, but

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<v Speaker 3>that is not the story today. The story today is

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<v Speaker 3>that a team that consistently over the past several years

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<v Speaker 3>out why, not only this year, but over a number

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<v Speaker 3>key players than just about any team in the league,

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<v Speaker 3>in some cases more than any other team in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, this year, they've sidelined about ninety five million

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to guys who have been lost by

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<v Speaker 3>the forty nine Ers, it's been players like Nick Bosa

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<v Speaker 3>have been out most of the season. George kittletore achilles

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<v Speaker 3>in the first playoff game against the Eagles first round

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<v Speaker 3>draft pick tour in Acl. But even guys that didn't

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<v Speaker 3>end up out for the season, like quarterback Brock Purty,

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<v Speaker 3>receivers Ricky Piersoll and Juwan Jennings, they've missed serious playing time.

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<v Speaker 3>But somehow, credit to coach Shanahan and his team, they've

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<v Speaker 2>But they're trying to figure out why this is happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Could be a lot of different reasons, but one of

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons that they're investigating, along with others, admittedly, is

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<v Speaker 3>whether the electrical substation near their training facility and Levi

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<v Speaker 3>Stadium where they play in Santa Clara, might have something

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<v Speaker 3>to do with that, and general manager John Lynch says, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>it deals with allegedly the health and safety of our players.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you at least have to take a look

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<v Speaker 3>at it. We're reaching out to anyone and everyone to

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<v Speaker 3>see is there even a study that exists on something

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<v Speaker 3>like this. The Washington Post says, this is ridiculous, This

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<v Speaker 3>is nonsense. There's no suggestion that exposure to electro motive

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<v Speaker 3>force is what I mean, it's from these substations, could

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<v Speaker 3>be related to all these injuries. But you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>long as you're investigating everything, I guess if there is

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<v Speaker 3>But I am skeptical that that's the case, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like that would be an unlikely reason for

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<v Speaker 2>But you know that could be me.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually really like the response from John Lynch. He

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<v Speaker 1>basically just tackles this the way he used to tackle

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<v Speaker 1>just hammers into it in the sense that he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>that like, look, we don't know, we don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good evidence to point in this direction,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not going to leave any stone unturned. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's a possibility this is a factor in player injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>we will, you know, dig into it see if there's

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<v Speaker 1>something we can do to address it. But he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound like he's a wide eyed conspiracy theorist either. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I could make a lot of jokes about the Jets here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm actually not going to. It always seems like

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<v Speaker 1>your team is getting hurt by injuries much worse than

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<v Speaker 1>other teams. I'm sure that's kind of a perception. You can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, quantify how many, how many there are and

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<v Speaker 1>how serious they are. I think it was men's health.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading years ago somebody made the argument that

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<v Speaker 1>an overwhelming majority of injuries that are involving ligaments, tendons,

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<v Speaker 1>the gist is that, like our body is slightly imbalanced,

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<v Speaker 1>and so at some point, particularly in football, you're running,

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<v Speaker 1>me as a likely reason for this. Now, could electrical

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<v Speaker 1>fields have some sort of harmful effect on bodies and muscles?

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose so. But Greg, how do you think an

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<v Speaker 1>electrical field causes a turf toe?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>The cause seems to be right there in the name

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<v Speaker 1>turf that you know, you're getting caught on it and

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<v Speaker 1>your foot doesn't, you know, move what the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your body does or something. The other one is if

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<v Speaker 1>this is true, color me skeptical but willing to be persuaded.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's new good data on this, Greg, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the rate of electrical line repairmen and they're ACL and

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<v Speaker 1>MCL tears? I have not heard. Yeah, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was out working. I'm a lie because this substation somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be fixing it. Somebody's got to be coming

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<v Speaker 1>in and checking on it. If that guy's not pulling

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<v Speaker 1>muscles left and right, and if they're not tearing acls

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<v Speaker 1>and out for the year, well then it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>be like, why would the you know, the electrical waves

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<v Speaker 1>be coming across onto the practice field? Also, like are

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches having the same kind of things are the

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<v Speaker 1>water boy is? If have they had severe turi? Like

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<v Speaker 1>why would this old be affecting the players living? Do

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<v Speaker 1>the residents nearby have a higher rate of injuries or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that? If there isn't, it makes me think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably something to do with what the players are doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, anyone who you know. So it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>long time complaint of Jets and Giants fans. The turf

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<v Speaker 1>at MetLife Stadium is a disaster, and that that's where

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<v Speaker 1>you see guys really, you know, planning their foot trying

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<v Speaker 1>to change direction. Foot goes one way, the body goes

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<v Speaker 1>the other, and you know you see something. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you hear pops, you hear stuff like that. Achilles tenddn't start,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, snapping like like my patients in the third quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just end up with this like like it

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<v Speaker 1>generally would be factors beyond that. I'll be very surprised

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<v Speaker 1>if proximity to an electrical substation is it, because otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>you think this would be affecting everybody who lives close,

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<v Speaker 1>not just to this one, how about every other electrical

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<v Speaker 1>substation around. It has got to be one that's near

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<v Speaker 1>a high school field. There's got to be one that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably near some college practice field somewhere else in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the only place in America where we have

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<v Speaker 1>an athletic field next to an electrical substation. So again

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<v Speaker 1>I'm skeptical, But also I want to say, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>credit to the San Francisco forty nine ers for saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this doesn't seem like a likely scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what, we'll dig into it because we

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<v Speaker 1>want to take care of our players. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid injuries. And by the way, there are way like

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<v Speaker 1>certain teams do have their injury rates go down, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they have different stretching that they do, different training,

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<v Speaker 1>different ways of attempting to recover from exertion. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are factors that could be in this just color me

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<v Speaker 1>skeptical that this is you know, some sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>electrical attack upon the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 3>If it isn't a factor, the most plausible thing would

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<v Speaker 3>be that, you know, consistent exposure to that somehow makes

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<v Speaker 3>recovery difficult or erodes your ability. I mean, these athletes

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<v Speaker 3>are doing more intense activity than the average people in

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<v Speaker 3>the neighborhood, but in terms of its effect on your

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<v Speaker 3>overall health, can't hurt to look into it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think you're right about the attitude. And if there's any

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<v Speaker 3>team you know that you could probably consult on this,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah. I was kind of waiting for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Real quick, Jim, this massive storm it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>head from I think Texas all the way to all

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<v Speaker 3>the way to the East coast, through the South and

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<v Speaker 3>then up the East coast, and we're supposed to get

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<v Speaker 3>hit late Saturday night through Sunday, maybe into Monday. But

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<v Speaker 3>this has gone from a snow event to a snow,

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<v Speaker 3>sleet and possible freezing rain event where we are, and

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<v Speaker 3>further south it's almost entirely ice. So this has gone

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<v Speaker 3>from you know, we're getting a few days off of

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<v Speaker 3>school to possibly a few days without power. For some folks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's getting a little bit more difficult there. So hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>you're hunkering down. And I know it's high population area,

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<v Speaker 3>so hopefully our listeners are too.

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<v Speaker 1>So first of all, Greg, right before we started taping,

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<v Speaker 1>the National Weather Service put out a new update. They

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<v Speaker 1>said there's now a ninety to ninety five percent chance

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<v Speaker 1>that the next couple of days are going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>an insufferable amount of ice. Immigration's custom Enforcement jokes. Ice

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<v Speaker 1>is coming. Ice is all over the country. Ice is everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get a lot of that. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to point out that next Fairfax County Public Schools

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<v Speaker 1>has the kids off for Thursday and Friday, end of

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<v Speaker 1>the quarter. Teachers have to grades and get everything in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a half day on Wednesday, the twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not to at school this week, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A week off. You know, at this point it is

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<v Speaker 1>Friday afternoon, and I know, there's like the odds of

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<v Speaker 1>my kid going to school next week are exceptionally small. Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again, it sounds like there's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of snow and ice. Fairfax County apparently has more

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<v Speaker 1>school buses than any other jurisdiction in the country, which

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<v Speaker 1>seems weird, but then you realize that like New York

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<v Speaker 1>City public schools LA public schools, they're much more densely packed, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're not as much need for a school bus.

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<v Speaker 1>So we can go. Fairfax County is fairly large. A

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<v Speaker 1>million people live here, and you have a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of roads, and so I looked out. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>roads usually get cleared pretty early in a snowstorm, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are parts where they don't clear all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, oh, we can't have school buses out on

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<v Speaker 1>icy roads and stuff like that. So Monday's almost certainly

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<v Speaker 1>out of that. I'm kind of surprised. Probably immediately after

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<v Speaker 1>the end of us taping this, I will get the

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<v Speaker 1>message we're already closing for Monday. Yeah, Tuesday's not Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be at least a delayed opening. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and what right? And so the thing is you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>off Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday's a half day. So

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<v Speaker 1>at that point the school board's been like, nah, forget it,

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<v Speaker 1>we're out for the week. Enjoy it. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago, they are a couple years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>is a twenty twenty one. I'm absolutely sure they had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten the kids back to school and then Omicron was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, so we got, you know, a decent snow on,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, over the weekend. So they closed Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>then Tuesday, then Wednesday, Thursday, frind they just closed the

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<v Speaker 1>entire week. It wasn't because of Omicron. It wasn't because

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<v Speaker 1>people were sick. It was totally because of the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>Wink wink. So yes, you know this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a as I like to say, Fairfax County, the everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>the teachers, the actually I should say the teachers, the

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<v Speaker 1>school board, and the people who make the decisions act

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<v Speaker 1>like metaphorical snowflakes over literal snowflakes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Omicron is that one of the COVID strains that

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<v Speaker 3>we couldn't name after the country that it started in, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Okay turned into.

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<v Speaker 1>When we suddenly got attacked by the Greek gods.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Wellma Crime was also my least favorite transformer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well a shout out also to my Upper Midwest people

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<v Speaker 3>have been under below zero four they get real days

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<v Speaker 3>and days and days woke up today. I looked at

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<v Speaker 3>the temperatures in my hometown. Minus seventeen feels like minus

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight. So and it's been like that for a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks now at least. So it's it's brutal

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of different places. Be smart, stay safe.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully the kids can have some fun with this snow,

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully we're through it all in a few days.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, Jim, have a good weekend, and so we've

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<v Speaker 3>got some power.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we tape from home. See them Monday, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly, Jim Garretty, National Review. I'm Greg Corumbus of

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