WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:05.719 Hudson Riverradio dot com. 2 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:07.040 We have to listen to you. 3 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:10.599 Well, no you don't, but if you have any interest 4 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:11.240 in history. 5 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:14.359 Hey, this is Jesse Carmichael from Room five. 6 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:17.039 Hi, this is Phil Margol of the Tokens. 7 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:17.440 Hello. 8 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:20.719 It's Nicole Atkins on the Rock and Roll History Show. 9 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:26.719 Well hello, everyone, Welcome back to the Rock and Roll 10 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:30.160 History Show on Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. We 11 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:33.479 have a great couple of shows coming up, and it 12 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:38.600 is a topic that fits the crambones absolutely perfectly. So 13 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:40.840 allow me to introduce a group of folks who don't 14 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:45.880 suffer from insanity. They enjoy every minute of it. First 15 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:49.240 and foremost, from the Richter Observatory, he can only sleep 16 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:52.280 on a pile of old magazines. He's got back issues. 17 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:53.719 Heil Richter is here. 18 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:59.000 I might be squooy, but I ain't going to alcat twash. 19 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:04.879 What's up Dot? 20 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:11.519 A great from paranormally yours. She recently stuck two bananas 21 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:13.879 on her feet and pulled them slippers. Y'all. 22 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:14.599 Nuclem's back. 23 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:18.680 Oh boy, it's a visual. 24 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:20.079 Hello everyone. 25 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:20.519 Yeah. 26 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.560 The scary thing is I got a visual on it myself. 27 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:30.280 Especially trying to go downstairs. That would be make sure 28 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:31.040 you video that. 29 00:01:31.519 --> 00:01:34.719 I hope do that very well under normal circumstance. 30 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:37.159 Well, this might it'll make it faster. It might not 31 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:38.920 make it better, but it would make it faster. 32 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:41.640 Yeah, I hope, I hope. 33 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:43.760 There's these jokes on a sign for the way this 34 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:44.959 show is going, because. 35 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:49.959 We're going down. We're circling the drain before we get started. 36 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:54.599 From a silver Scream, she saw a snail crawl into 37 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:57.439 a bar in order a drink, and the bartender said, hey, 38 00:01:57.480 --> 00:01:59.439 we don't serve your kind here, and he threw them 39 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:02.000 out the door. Two years later, she's sitting in the 40 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.519 same bar and crawls the same snail, who goes, what 41 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:12.479 the hell was that? Mercedes KA, I love that. 42 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:17.080 Yes, hey, everybody, I embraced my insanity. 43 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:21.800 Yeahheartedly, the only way to get through all the right 44 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:24.879 people do. At last, but not least, the host of 45 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:27.960 shaving Cream, she poured a root beer into a square 46 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:31.479 glass and now she just has beer. Barbara Veil was back. 47 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:35.080 Oh man, I was worried about another math joke. 48 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:41.360 Thanks, all right, Well, this week and next week we're 49 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:44.599 talking about insanity, and I don't remember who came up 50 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:48.280 with the topic, but uh oh, it was Mercedes. There's 51 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:54.199 a shocker. Why don't we hop right in? Mercedes are 52 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:55.000 going to lead us off? 53 00:02:55.759 --> 00:03:00.879 Okay insanity? So of course I was going to do 54 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:03.520 an Alice Cooper song. I was going to do Ballot, 55 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.719 a Dwight fry about a guy at a mental institution, 56 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:10.000 but apparently we've done it before on the show. So 57 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:12.960 my song for today is by the band Slade from 58 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:17.360 nineteen seventy two. The Slade original lineup was Natty Holder, 59 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:21.599 Dave Hill, Jim Lee and Don Powell. So the first 60 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.759 time I saw Slade, Aerosmiths was opening for them in 61 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:28.719 nineteen seventy four at the Felt Forum at Madison Square Garden. 62 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.080 I had pushed my way to the very front because 63 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:36.199 you could do that back then. My ribs were pressing 64 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:41.520 up against the stage and people behind were pushing. I 65 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:46.879 did have bruises later, but I was really happy. At 66 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:50.719 that same show, I grabbed Aerosmith's Joe Perry's left boot 67 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:56.039 and he snarled and kicked at me. Insane right, Well 68 00:03:56.039 --> 00:03:59.680 worth it out anyway. 69 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:00.240 Later. 70 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.479 An English rock band formed in nineteen sixty six. They 71 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:07.159 started out as the in Betweens and That's Apostrophe and 72 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:11.319 Betweens and early record of this band, You Better Run, 73 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:14.639 was produced by Kim Foley, who managed The Runaways and 74 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:17.879 had worked for Alan Freed and Barry Gordie, who founded 75 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:22.160 Motown record label. They were offered a contract at Fontana 76 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:25.000 Records if they changed their name, which the band was 77 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:27.959 not happy about because of the reputation they had finally 78 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:32.160 built up as the in Betweens, but eventually conceded and 79 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:38.800 changed the band name to Alt Ambrose Slade, inspired by 80 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:42.519 their record label's secretary, she had a name. She had 81 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.800 named her handbag Ambrose and her shoes Slade. 82 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:47.000 I love it. 83 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:52.800 That is amazing to me, so I immediately have named 84 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:58.439 everything in my closet after their After their first album flopped, 85 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.920 they were approached by Chad Chandler, the basis for The Animals, 86 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:05.839 who had managed Jimmy Hendricks. Chandler was not happy about 87 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:08.800 the first album and suggested they change their look to 88 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:14.680 skinheads and changed their name to Slade. Ban was not 89 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.720 happy about that look. They had all been working on 90 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:21.879 growing their hair for years. Initially, they couldn't get on 91 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:24.600 top of the Pops because the producer's son had been 92 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:26.040 beat up by skinheads. 93 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:26.800 Oops. 94 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.240 So later they did grow their hair again and followed 95 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.600 the glam movement of the nineteen seventies. They played Top 96 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:36.240 of the Pops with the song titled because I Love 97 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:43.360 You It's coz I luv you, to the horror of 98 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:50.399 British school teachers. The misspellings of titles became a trademark 99 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:54.079 for the band. Another song being look what You've done? 100 00:05:54.639 --> 00:06:00.000 What is WoT done is dun and take me Back 101 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:06.720 Back Ome back as bak Ome is apostrophe Ome and 102 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:11.279 their third record when their third actual number one single 103 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.759 in the UK Mama We're All Crazy Now, which is 104 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:19.199 my song for this topic, and weird is w e 105 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:25.439 e R and Crazy cr a Zee. The music was 106 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:29.680 written by Jim Lee and lyrics by Natty Holder. In 107 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:33.399 nineteen seventy four, their popularity in the US, sorry in 108 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:35.839 the UK was waiting, so they made a move to 109 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:40.920 the US, bringing with them twelve tons of equipment. Wow, 110 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:44.800 so Brian help me out here. But isn't that like 111 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:45.480 a lot? 112 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:46.879 That sounds like a lot to me. 113 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:53.600 And they toured with zz Top, Black Sabbath and Arismith 114 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.879 which brings me back to my experience that I talked 115 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.759 about at the top. Slade is still playing shows and 116 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:05.519 releasing albums, one being Whatever Happened to Slade from Graffiti 117 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:08.399 that was seen in London, which I think is hilarious 118 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:13.000 of course. Also they have released fifteen studio albums and 119 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:17.920 four live albums. So Natty Holder makes sort of a 120 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:22.199 primal scream during what he did do that and during 121 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:26.360 a woke up yikes doing a vocal warm up. I 122 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:30.839 needed some vocal warm up today in preparation to record 123 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:33.319 this song. The producer recorded it and put it in 124 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:36.480 the song before the verse, so listen for that. So 125 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:49.160 let's hear mama, we're all crazy now. 126 00:07:47.199 --> 00:08:05.959 Oh lot, mom, don't stop. Now come home another tron. 127 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:11.319 I will come on home. I want from my mom. 128 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:15.800 That's fine, that's I said. 129 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:32.799 My way now said more now said zy Now. 130 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:45.919 Who you told me a full fight I wanted and 131 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:53.480 you tease me And no, my ladies said, I don't. 132 00:08:53.320 --> 00:09:05.039 Stop, come another Troy, come on. I'm no, That's that's 133 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:15.559 what I say. Now shut. 134 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:36.639 Now, good set saying now stop, I don't want to drink. 135 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:44.120 I see that steal know to fall in love. My 136 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:54.960 dear said, don't stop now come on and that I want, 137 00:09:55.840 --> 00:10:54.000 that's suck, that's s s set. 138 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:11.360 So here's what happened. Jim Lee had seen Chuck Berry 139 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.159 play a show and was impressed with the audience's reaction 140 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:17.840 and participation. At the time, he said, everybody in the 141 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:20.600 audience was singing along to his tunes. It wasn't just 142 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:24.159 a few people, who was everyone. Lee explained late years later, 143 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.320 I thought that was amazing. Why not write the crowd 144 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:30.600 into your own songs. The lyrics were written after a 145 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:34.120 wild night of playing an NME Pole winners concert where 146 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:38.879 many bottles and seats had been smashed. Surveying the aftermath, 147 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:44.000 Holder thought, christ, everyone must have been crazy tonight. He 148 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:46.000 goes on to say there was a mountain of broken 149 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.720 chairs in the middle of the hall. Holder says, looking 150 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:51.279 back now, it might have happened at Empire Pool, or 151 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:54.720 it might have been in Liverpool, but it was somewhere massive. 152 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:58.120 This was our first real concert tour as headliners, and 153 00:11:58.240 --> 00:11:59.840 it gave us a real taste of how big the 154 00:11:59.879 --> 00:12:04.720 band was becoming. It was mostly a male audience and 155 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:07.919 the seats always took a real smashing. It used to 156 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.240 cause us to fortune. So that's how he came up 157 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:15.399 with the idea for the song today, Lee and Holder 158 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:18.519 felt Mama Were All Crazy Now was the first time 159 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:21.279 they could get the audience to sing on mass. It 160 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:25.039 was the first time they were able to capture that. Incidentally, 161 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:29.559 the song originally was titled My MI Were All Crazy Now, 162 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:36.519 but miss was misheard by the producer. It was recorded 163 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:39.960 all together in one room, partitioned off, but playing together 164 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.840 as a band, and I think that's pretty cool. The 165 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:48.120 song has been covered by Quiet Riot, James Last, the 166 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:55.080 Runaways and more Like Orchestral Stuff. Their follow up single 167 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:58.360 to that was in nineteen seventy three, Come On Feel 168 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.200 the Noise, which went straight to number and you know 169 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:02.399 how that's spelled right. 170 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:05.519 C us, Yes, yes, you used to annoy me no. 171 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.559 End, which went straight to number one in the UK, 172 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:11.759 the first time a single had done that since the 173 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:15.679 Beatles Get Back in nineteen sixty nine. It only reached 174 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:19.240 number ninety eight in the US. So it's really not 175 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:22.879 a deeper meaning just go crazy and have fun. 176 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:30.919 Oh love it all right? Thank you, Mercedes. Perfect lead 177 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:32.720 off for our topic tonight, We're going to take a 178 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:35.200 quick break of quick break. Let you take your meds 179 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:36.200 and we'll be back. 180 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:41.679 In Hudson River Radio dot Com. 181 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:44.200 This concludes the first part of this cassette. 182 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:47.559 Please turn the cassette over and begin again on side too. 183 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:55.279 This is Hudson River Radio dot Com. 184 00:13:55.600 --> 00:14:04.679 Ah, and welcome back tonight. We're talking about insanity. So 185 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:07.720 who better than the one and only Neil Richter. 186 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:11.960 Ah and I shall rise to the occasion. Thank you 187 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:16.960 very much. And I've never condoned insanity, drugs or alcohol 188 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:19.720 for anyone, but you know, in my case it always worked. 189 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:25.039 But in rock and roll music, particularly in the psychedelic sixties, 190 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:28.919 when drugs like LSD or at their height, the theme 191 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:35.120 of insanity was quite prevalent. And at the forefront of 192 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:38.799 this movement was the British band Pink Floyd and one 193 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:43.080 of its founding members see Sid Barrett. Now, although he 194 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:45.000 was only in the band for the first two years 195 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:48.399 and only appeared on their first two albums, The Man, 196 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:51.360 the Myth and the Legend of Sid Barrett has cast 197 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:58.080 a huge shadow over Pink Floyd's entire career. Now, by 198 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:02.320 the seventies and eighties, Pink Floyd international superstars. Nobody can 199 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:05.559 deny they were selling millions upon millions of albums like 200 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:09.200 Dark Side of the Mood in the Wall and both 201 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:12.559 of which delve deeply into the themes of insanity and 202 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:16.559 mental illness, and in fact, their nineteen seventy five album 203 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.480 Wish You Were Here was basically a tribute to Sid Barrett, 204 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:25.399 written and recorded long after Sid had left the band 205 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:30.679 because of his mental health problems. Now incidentally, Sid Barrett 206 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:35.679 reportedly adopted his nickname Sid from an old British jazz 207 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:40.759 bass player named Sid the Beat Barrett, and our Sid 208 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:44.720 spelled his with a y. Sid the beat Barrett spelled 209 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:48.000 his with an I, so I guess it was to 210 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:51.399 avoid confusion between the two. And of course Our Sid 211 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:54.200 was only fourteen years old at the time, so I 212 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:57.519 don't really think there would have been that much confusion 213 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:01.080 going on. But another account says that his schoolmates gave 214 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:04.440 him the nickname because he wore like a working class 215 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:09.240 styled cap and Sid was a working class name, you know, 216 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:12.639 like hey, hey mac Hey, Bud over there, Hey Sid. 217 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:18.480 So however he got it. He used both names Roger 218 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:26.039 and Sid because his real name is Roger. He used 219 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.679 them interchangeably, but his sister Rosemary said that he never 220 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:32.240 allowed anyone to call him Sid when he was home, 221 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:38.879 you know, in the family home. So when Pink Floyd began, 222 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:42.840 they were playing cover versions of American R and B songs, 223 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:47.200 But by nineteen sixty six they'd begun to develop a 224 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.639 style of their own, mixing improvised jazz into their rock 225 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.759 and roll. Drummer Nick Mason recalled that most of these 226 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:59.080 ideas came from Sid Barrett. He became the band's primary songwriter, 227 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:05.000 combining whimsical styles of singing, stream of consciousness lyrics, and 228 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:09.000 on top of that, he added psychedelic effects such as distortion, echo, 229 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:13.599 and feedback from his guitar. In nineteen sixty seven, with 230 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:16.400 Barrett at the helm, Pink Floyd released their debut album, 231 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:20.160 Piper at the Gates of Dawn. Sid wrote all but 232 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.680 three of the eleven songs on the album, but by 233 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:29.240 nineteen sixty eight his input and behavior became increasingly erratic, 234 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:33.960 mostly because of his heavy drug use, which possibly may 235 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:40.960 have accelerated or exacerbated some underlying undiagnosed mental illness like schizophrenia, 236 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:46.640 and it's also speculated that he had also become disillusioned 237 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:49.240 with the music business in general and really had no 238 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:53.160 interest in being a pop star or a rock star 239 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:57.000 at all, unlike the other members and all the other 240 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.319 musicians at the time, that's what they wanted. Did really 241 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:04.160 seemed to care about that now. A recently released documentary 242 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:07.240 called Have You Got It Yet, a film that chronicle 243 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.640 Sid's journey from being a groundbreaking musician to becoming manic 244 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:16.000 and mentally unstable, seems to suggest a combination of all 245 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:20.319 these factors. And by the way, the film's title have 246 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:23.359 You Got It Yet, was taken from the title of 247 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.519 a song Barrett had been showing to the band. Now 248 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:30.519 Intentionally or not, he kept changing the arrangement of the 249 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:33.400 song as they went along. Each time he played it 250 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:35.680 for him, he played it a different way, making it 251 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:39.680 impossible for them to learn. They were like, what are 252 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:44.119 you doing now? Was he just pranking them? Or was 253 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:48.960 he like intentionally in a psychotically passive, aggressive way, trying 254 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:51.839 to get them to fire him because he just didn't 255 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:56.240 want to do it anymore. We'll never know, We'll never know. 256 00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:59.960 Whatever the case, the man who had once been discribed 257 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:05.440 his joyful, friendly, and extroverted had become depressed and withdrawn, 258 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:11.720 with disorganized speech, memory losses, memory lapses, and a blank expressionalist, 259 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.839 dead eyed stare, He was unable to recognize his friends 260 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:21.920 and often didn't even know where he was. He only 261 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.759 contributed one song to their second LP, A Saucerful of Secrets, 262 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:28.960 and that's the song we're about to hear, called jug 263 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:33.759 Band Blues, and some claim that this song he wrote 264 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.759 as a farewell to the band after sensing that they 265 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:41.480 were probably about to fire him because of his deteriorating 266 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:42.640 mental condition. 267 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:49.880 It is so considerate thing, and I'm most obliged to 268 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:50.480 you for. 269 00:19:52.119 --> 00:20:03.720 It's clear that I'm not. I never knew something, and 270 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:04.680 I'm grateful. 271 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.720 But you threw away mild shoes. 272 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.160 And brought me here instead dressing red. 273 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:18.720 And I'm wandering who could be writing this song? 274 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:22.960 I don't care. 275 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:28.440 It's a nut shine and I don't care if nothing 276 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:31.480 is mine, and I don't care. 277 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:37.440 I loveles win you. I'll do my loving in the winter. 278 00:21:10.759 --> 00:22:16.000 Up to sex and. 279 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:32.680 Then Queen. Then what exactxact. 280 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:41.640 Exact, And that, my friends, is what Pink Floyd used 281 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.240 to sound like. And obviously by a Dark Side of 282 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.720 the Moon the whole sound changed. But they put out 283 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:54.000 I think five or six LPs before they really broke worldwide. 284 00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:59.160 They were they were big in England, but not like 285 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:02.880 they would become you know, they go worldwide. But now, 286 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:07.000 as Sid's condition worsened, he would just stand stock still 287 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:10.480 on stage, sometimes with his arms just limp at his side, 288 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:14.920 and refused to sing. Or he'd stand there and detune 289 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:18.720 his guitar one string at a time until they'd all 290 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.319 fallen off onto the floor, and when that was done, 291 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:23.720 he'd just leave the stage. 292 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:30.400 Performance art, Yeah, I don't know when the whole band 293 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:32.160 is counting on you, I don't know if that counts 294 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:33.119 as performance art. 295 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:37.720 Well that by that By the end of nineteen sixty seven, 296 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.799 Pink Floyd added guitarist David Gilmour as a fifth member, 297 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:46.880 particularly to supplement Barrett's erratic behavior on stage during live performances, 298 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.240 until matters kind of came to a head in January 299 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:55.720 of nineteen sixty eight. While driving to a gig and 300 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:57.920 they were going up collecting all the members, one of 301 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:02.119 the band members asked or not they should even pick 302 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:05.240 up Sid, and according to Gilmour, the answer was a 303 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.440 unanimous nah, let's not. 304 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:09.400 Bother oops so. 305 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:11.359 Out. 306 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:16.839 Yeah, I can understand it, I get it, but yeah, yeah. 307 00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:19.599 That pretty much signaled the end of Barrett's tenure with 308 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:23.240 Pink Floyd, and by early March of nineteen sixty eight 309 00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:25.960 the band held a meeting and it was agreed that 310 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.480 Barrett would leave and Gilmour would permanently take over the 311 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:34.400 guitar role. And as I say, the rest is history. 312 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.519 Now as far as the song goes, jug Band Blues. 313 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.920 The basic tracks were recorded at the legendary Abbey Road Studios, 314 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:46.400 with Norman Smith handling the production. Now, Smith had previously 315 00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:49.559 worked as an engineer there at Abbey Road along with 316 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:52.599 George Martin and the Beatles, so there was some you know, 317 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:54.640 there was some heavy hitters, and you know they were 318 00:24:56.279 --> 00:24:59.079 they were doing well in England. Nobody heard about him 319 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:02.240 over here, but you know when you're at Abbey Road 320 00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:02.799 with you know. 321 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.640 Yeah, with those guys here with Beatle pedigree. 322 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:10.519 There, that's not too shabby anyway. Smith claimed it was 323 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:14.720 his idea to later add the brass arrangement, and Barrett 324 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:18.279 had suggested, well why not use a Salvation Army band? Okay, 325 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:24.079 So after some considerable effort, apparently, they assembled an eight 326 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:26.720 piece Salvation Army Band and booked them for a three 327 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:31.279 hour session, to which Barrett arrived about an hour late, 328 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:34.119 so now we're down to two hours and Smith then 329 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.519 asked Barrett, well, what is his ideas? What do you 330 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.359 want the brass band to play? And Sid said, well, 331 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:46.680 just let them play whatever they want, basically just the 332 00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:49.400 chaotic Salvation Army freak out that you kind of heard. 333 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.279 And then he walked out of the studio and didn't return, 334 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.240 leaving Smith to write out what arrangement there was for 335 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:03.079 the Salvation Army Band. After Pink Floyd, Sid Barrett had 336 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.680 a brief solo career, releasing a single and two albums 337 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.880 recorded with the help of three other of his old 338 00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:14.279 bandmates in Pink Floyd, and he then left the music 339 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:18.319 industry entirely and retired from public life in nineteen seventy two, 340 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:23.240 probably the one sane thing he did. But now, according 341 00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:26.640 to his sister Rosemary, who became his primary caretaker at 342 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.920 that point, he returned to his love of painting and 343 00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:35.480 also took up photography and she would take him out 344 00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:41.319 to photograph, you know, landscapes or seescapes or whatever, and 345 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.039 then he would often create paintings from the pictures he 346 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:50.880 had taken, after which he would take them outside and 347 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:51.880 light them on fire. 348 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:58.720 Already then maybe he didn't have enough storage space. 349 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:00.519 Maybe. 350 00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:02.559 Yeah, that's one way to look at it. 351 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.279 They were done, you know, onto the next thing. 352 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:11.839 Yeah, anyway, she said he had also developed an interest 353 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.839 in horticulture and gardening, and he enjoyed going to London 354 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.119 to look at major art collections there, and he also 355 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:23.759 made regular trips to the botanical gardens. Now, this is 356 00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:27.519 the kicker, this story. This one blows my mind. 357 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:28.480 It's just more. 358 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:34.079 Now. In June of nineteen seventy five, Pink Floyd were 359 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:37.680 at Abbey Road Studios again. At this point they were 360 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.759 already established thing and they were working on the Wish 361 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:46.279 You Were Here LP when they noticed a fat, bald 362 00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:49.920 man with shaved eyebrows standing near the back of the 363 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:55.279 recording studio, just kind of hovering, And it took a 364 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:59.880 while until they realized who it was. It was Sid Barrett. 365 00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:03.960 He looked totally different from when the last time they 366 00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:07.279 saw him, and he'd come on in on his own, 367 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.519 unannounced and unnoticed, and he. 368 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:15.079 Actually got into the studios with so security is a 369 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.039 little different nowadays. Number one. 370 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:21.039 And the song they were working on when when he 371 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:25.519 was came in was shine on You Crazy Diamond. The 372 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:29.359 song that they had written about sid himself. Wow, Wow, 373 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:36.440 can you believe that? And and he asked him, you know, sincerely, 374 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.640 he said, are you ready for me to record my 375 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:43.359 guitar part yet? And they kind of went well and 376 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.319 they kind of lied and said, well, now we've already 377 00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:48.359 got that done. Thanks, you know, don't don't worry about it. 378 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.480 We've got it. And they played the tape of him 379 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.480 and asked him what he thought. Apparently he didn't seem 380 00:28:55.640 --> 00:29:00.799 too impressed, and then just left. Wow, but is that 381 00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:04.039 is that crazy? That he just he showed up at 382 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:06.720 on the day that they were recording the song song 383 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:07.319 about him? 384 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:08.079 About him? 385 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:09.680 That's insane. 386 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.640 And there's pictures they had, you know, this was in 387 00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:17.119 that film I mentioned earlier, And there are pictures you 388 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.599 can see and it looks nothing like him from the 389 00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:22.160 you know, you look at the pictures from you know, 390 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.079 in the day and it looked hard enough you can 391 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:26.440 see it. 392 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.160 But it's like, wow, Yeah, if you didn't know it 393 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:31.160 was him, you wouldn't recognize him. Yeah. 394 00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:35.440 Wow. And I had first heard about that in the 395 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.000 film that you know when I said that, And now 396 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.079 I looked it up and in fact, yeah, that really 397 00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.920 that occurred, and that that that blew my mind. I thought, 398 00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:44.079 that's that's wow. 399 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.640 Was that the last time they saw him? You know that. 400 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.240 I'm not sure, but it you know, it may have 401 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:54.079