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or Big twelve inside or representing locked on Big Twelve.

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We got the one the only Drake Toll on Live Drake,

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How you Live It?

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Speaker 4: Then on the very same day that John curses on

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your show, I mean talk about dog this. Look, this

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is a loaded lineup for you on ESPN nine to

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sixty today and I'm honored to.

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Speaker 5: Be a part of it.

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Speaker 3: You know it.

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Speaker 2: Living the dream here now, Like all seems well in

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Cougar Country, Kilani has been extended, the staff got some

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pay raises, the players got some nil BYU's going to

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the Big twelve championship game.

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Speaker 3: But there's some qualms as well.

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Speaker 2: There's disrespect in college football as it pertains to BYU

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bear Bachmeier's not a listed as a Freshman of the

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Speaker 3: He got the Big Twelve honor. Big Twelve give him

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some love there.

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Speaker 2: Kilane Yes gets the Big Twelve Coach of the Year,

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but no one's recognizing him nationally, and BYU as a

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team is sitting outside looking into the college football playoff

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at number eleven.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of it all, Drake?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is the best of times, it is the

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worst of times. It's never enough, as they say, y

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to be a Big twelve fan. If you think about

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then where BYU comes from in terms of two years ago.

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competitive enough to make a bowl game in that Oklahoma

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State game at the end of the year, was you know,

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just that the icing on the cake. If we all

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most did it against a good team, do you see

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the flashes and then it's gone. And last year I

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think the media fixed BYU to finish on the back

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half of the Big twelve, middle of the pack maybe,

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And what happened was kind of the Cincinnati syndrome. What

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the Bearcats going through this year of BYU last season

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got to win at the highest level, be a top

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ten team and the bottom falls out on you. You lose

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two games late to the most crucial two games, you

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can't go to the college Football playoffs and you end

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up going to the Alio Bowl. And that win was fun,

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but it wasn't a playoff victory. It's it's this air

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of we're elite, we can do it, We've proven ourselves,

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Speaker 6: Just came up short.

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Speaker 4: The most dagger to the heart thing you can imagine

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in sports would be for BYU to do it again

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this year, but really have its destiny pulled away from

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the university and away from the football team. Because at

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eleven to one, any power for a team has proven

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to the committee they are good enough to be in

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the college football playoffs. And so you could say, hey,

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Big twelve championship, or they you know, beat Texas Tech.

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Speaker 6: In the regular season, they would be in.

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Speaker 5: But to me, it.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 4: You've already proven you deserve to be a college football

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playoff team. Rules me, in other schools and other universities

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look how good their losses are? I mean as great

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as everything feels at BYU. There's still this air of

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what could be and why aren't the Cougars getting the

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respect they deserve from Bear Bockmeyer, as you mentioned, not

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being a for Freshman of the Year nationally, klaasatake not

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of the Year nationally. For the football team being held

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out of the playoffs because of a brand bias, and

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even this week in the conversations of hey, how supported

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does Kilane feel by the administration by you got this

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close to losing its head football coach three days ago.

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could be a fan of any power for school and

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it's happening to BYU.

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Speaker 2: Nation crazy times, no doubt about it, Drake Toll Lockdown

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Big twelve here on ESPN The Fan, Drake, how where

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do you think a fair ranking would be for BYU

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Speaker 3: Where do you think they should be?

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Speaker 4: I think YU being at at nine is not It

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shouldn't be a foreign thoughts to anybody. I think BYU

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being one of the not the highest ranked one loss team,

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but in the mix of hey, this is a BYU

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team that we need to show the ultimate respect to

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because of who they have beaten, the wins, they have

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their shrink the schedule this year, I think it's clear

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they should be above Notre Dame. It's very clear to

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me they should still be above Alabama BAMA loss to

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hapless Florida state teams. You know, Notre Dame has a

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couple of quality losses, but they don't have the same

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quality wins that BYU does right now on the resume,

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and then I know Oklahoma went on the road and

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got to win at Alabama, but again we're talking about

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wins and losses. What have you done for me?

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Speaker 6: How many games have you won?

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Speaker 4: I think YU should squarely be at nine. I'm surprised

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that they're not, And honestly, you could make.

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Speaker 6: A case for them at eight.

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Speaker 5: And if you want to go.

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Speaker 4: Even further, their strength of schedule is better than Texas

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A and M. They've played better opponents. A and M

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brilliantly played. They only beat the back half of the

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SEC schedule. If not for their Notre Dame win, I'm

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a bit more confused about what A and M looks like,

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and so I would lobby for BYU to be squarely

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in the top ten in that eight to nine range,

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and it is we're talking then, And I know I'm

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getting ahead of myself a bit, but this is some

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Sherman Antitrust Act stuff. I mean, you leave BYU out

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at eleven and one, and there should be and I

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hope there will be a lawsuit against this committee because

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there's plenty to prove that by every metric they are

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better than Notre Dame and better than Alabama from a

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resume standpoint. Just do not understand how BYU is getting

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so much disrespect as a power for team at eleven

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Speaker 2: Yell's wonder if if BYU was an independent and had

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that same record, had the same strength of record, had

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the same strength of schedule, would they be ranked higher

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as like an independent than they would?

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, does it matter?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so, so, Ben, Here's what's so interesting

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about this before and this is this is damning for

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myself and I'm gonna feel back Curtin and Debt. Seven

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years ago, the average college football fan, only myself included,

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would have seen Navy and BYU as pretty similar football programs.

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B YU is so much better historically than Navy. Of

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course they are, but the reason being the years of

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independence war on BYU's brand and and how the country

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viewed BYU because it was that was that fun game

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that somebody got to throw into the schedule, That was

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that fun game against Boise State, that was a fun

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game against Notre Dame. And wow, BYU upsets Texas, But

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you don't get respect for it because somewhere down the

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line BYU loses a game or two, they're independent.

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Speaker 6: And people just forget about the Cougars.

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Speaker 4: They didn't have near enough dominance in the BCS erap

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and when they were independent, people just forgot even after

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big wins.

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Speaker 6: The BYU existed.

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Speaker 4: Now in the Big twelve, the conference right your mark,

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they realized national championship program with players at the top

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of college football the course the last five decades, Lavelle Edwards,

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what Klaga Satake has built in nine years of BYU,

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it is a parent.

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Speaker 6: It is obvious.

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Speaker 4: It is huge what BYU brings to the Big Twelve conference.

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But the average college football fan, for some reason, their

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brand bias against BYU. Their brand, but and Ben to

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why we keep hearing these.

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Speaker 6: Anti religious chants at these universities.

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Speaker 4: They just think, oh, that's that crazy religious school. We

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can walk all over them. We don't have the factor

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them and we don't have to care about them because

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we think they're different. It is a travesy what's happening

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to BYU. It is brand biased at its core, and

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I think that's what it's chalked up to years of

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independence that if this was Kansas State, they're in. If

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this is Iowa State, they're in. For some reason, BYU

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and year three being in a power conference being extremely

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good scares college football. They don't understand it. They don't

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know what to do with it, and it is so

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it is so infuriating to see the way that BYU

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Speaker 2: Drake, what's your prognostication for this BYU Texas Tech matchup.

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My guy Greg Rebel, a man of metrics, the voice

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of the Cougar, said this. Yeah, this is what he said. Okay,

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he said, colleg Football Player Committee is using the nature

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of the BYUS. BoA's lost twenty nine to seven in

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Love it right as a reason to keep them out

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and exclude them, even though this is the number four

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team in the country. They are first in rushing defense,

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third in and scoring defense, six in total defense. A

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closer looking side than numbers from November eight shows many

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interesting things. So BYU had negative yards on two of

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twelve drives. Texas Tech had negative yardage on four of

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thirteen drives. By You scored one touchdown on twelve possessions.

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Tech scored two touchdowns on thirteen possessions. BYU punted six times,

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Tech punted five times. BYUS average yards per play three

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point nine versus techs four point nine. By You had

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more sacks four to one, had more time of possession

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thirty thirty five to twenty nine twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Boa had fourteen first downs.

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Speaker 2: Tech had seventeen first down text points, first downs, and

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yardage totals against BYU were the lowest in any of

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their eleven wins, and it was the lowest scoring point

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win total in their margin of victory. So, all that

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being said, what's gonna change in Arlington?

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Speaker 4: Do you think that all sounds like Gregory bells a

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voice the Kugers, That's what that's sounds like, I mean, yeah, look,

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you you convinced yourself, and I'm gonna shoot you straight. Ben,

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I think if you're Brett or Mark, you convinced yourself,

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the BYU is going to win. If if you're the

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BYU fan base, you hope for that. And the reason

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the conference does too is because they want to get

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multiple teams into the college football playoffs. The metric that

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I've looked at a lot is Texas Tech just not

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being to their EPI love EPA, and I only recently

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learned a few weeks ago that the BYU alumni created

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this EPA metrics with efficiency and Texas Tech number fifty

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three throwing the football, number one hundred and seven running

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the football.

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Speaker 6: And now, Ben, you would say, how.

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Speaker 4: Could Texas Tech with Cameron Dickie Jacoby Williams be one

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hundredth at running the football efficiency wise? Here's why you're

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Speaker 5: To give for this game.

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Speaker 4: I give it seventeen times when I show this week.

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Texas Tech ran the ball forty three times one hundred

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and forty nine yards. Cameron Dickey's longest carry was thirty

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three yards. D Kobe Williams's longest carry was forty three

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yards half of Texas text rushing yard, which came on

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two plays. The other half came on forty one plays.

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was fallible offensively against BYU and the Cougars. The lights

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were just too bright going into Lubvick. It was just

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too much for Bear Blackmeyering Company to handle, even though

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Bear was only sacked once and Baron Morton was sacked

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four times. If you limit the chunk play, you limit

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Speaker 6: It was like those tech scoring drives.

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Speaker 4: It's had one play of twenty six yards somewhere in there,

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and that was the backbreaker for BYU. Every other play

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was four or five yards. That's where I think BYU

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can win this game. Is not everybody saying, oh, well,

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if you turn them over and the ball bounce is

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the right way and the ball bounce is.

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Speaker 6: The wrong way.

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Speaker 4: Now, I think you limit the tech chunk plays and

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BYU was within a score or two.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, BYU a twelve and a half point dog

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at worst. You know, for BYU fans at least, do

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you think they cover. Do you think BYU covers in

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this game?

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Speaker 3: In our.

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Speaker 4: Ben. I think YU wins Wow Wow.

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Speaker 6: I think YU wins the football game and.

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Speaker 4: The biggest so also wild stab. Yu had more title

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possession against Texas Tech the first time around. The reason

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I have decided it took me a long time to

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get to this because that originally was like Texas Tech

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buy three, Texas Tech by six, maybe like ten if

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things go odd. There is a respect, the reverence and

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understanding on the Tech side. For Joey maguire, he has

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set it this week that BYU deserves to be a

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college football playoff team. And Jacob Rodriguez, the guys are gamers,

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David Bailey.

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Speaker 6: They don't care.

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Speaker 4: They want a Big twelve championship. They're not going to

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lose out of pity. But on one side of the

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football field this Saturday, it is do or die. It

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is a playoff game. BYU must win. This is their

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first playoff game to get into the bracket. For Texas Tech,

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the worst that happens.

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Speaker 6: If they lose is they get to host a home.

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Speaker 4: Game in a college football playoff. As much as BYU

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has to play for Texas Tech does not necessarily. Now again,

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these are gamers. I'm not saying Texas Tech is going

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to play a bad football game on purpose or give

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a charity to BYU. I think they're gonna fight as

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hard as they fought all year. They want their first

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Big twelve championship game win ever, they certainly do. But

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for BYU, this is to keep the season alive, to

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keep a shot at the national championship alive. When that

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when that is, there's no more. Hey, Aaron Rodrick, let's

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run as many draw.

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Speaker 5: Plays as possible.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's go, Hey, what.

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Speaker 6: About speed option?

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Speaker 4: But no, this is the kitchen sink is out there,

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and it either leads to the BYU turning them all

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over five times and losing by forty five, or the

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Cougar's pulling off a win. I said them on show

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this week. This is not Boise State beating Oklahoma. It's

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not that aggressive of a format for UYU to win

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this game. But at some level, BYU have to treat.

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Speaker 6: It like that.

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Speaker 4: You have to treat it as we're gonna run the

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hooking ladders. We're going to run the plays they haven't

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seen before. It all boils down to this, Aaron Rodrick,

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to get a little fancier than usual because it didn't work,

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just trying to run the ball at the middle in

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game one. And for j Hill, you punished Texas Tech,

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especially in the red zone. Ben, don't break force them

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into five field goals. And look, Ben, I think if

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Texas Tech takes five field goals in this game, BYU

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is the winner, and Tech had five field goals in

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that first game. It's the red zone defensive Yu. It

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was so good. I still have confidence in them. J

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Hill is he was perfect last time against the Red Raiders.

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Here's where Aaron Roderick has to step up to laanstake,

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staying the pomp, the circumstance, the storylines.

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Speaker 6: BYU wins this game.

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Speaker 3: Drake Toll here on ESPN.

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Speaker 2: BYU's healthier than they've ever been, it seems this season,

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at least to start this season, they're going back to

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maybe where they were at the start of the season.

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How healthy is Texas Tech right now leading up to

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the Big twelve Championship game? Is there any competitive advantages there?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I really have no worries about the depth chart either

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or these teams and their health status. You know, obviously

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Texas Tech lost when it's best lineman in the middle

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of the campaign and never really skipped the beat, and

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so I have no qualms with how these two teams

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will line up based on the depth charts that they

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reported to the Big Twelve this week.

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Speaker 6: You know, if Baron Morton.

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Speaker 4: Goes down, obviously it's much different. But for the sake

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of the Big Twelve conference and also just being a good,

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normal human being, I hope to goodness that Baron Morton

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says healthy this entire game and gives the Big Twelve

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chance to win a national championship come playoff time. That

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that's really the only concerned injury wise, is just knowing

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Baron Morton probably still isn't at one hundred percent, but

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if he goes he's given a and in the stats

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aren't necessarily comparable, and this is really just more of

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a toughest category. Max Duggan, when he willed TCU that

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college football playoff just beaten up the entire year. That's

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what Baron Morton's done because he understands that a championship

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at the highest level is on the line, a national championships.

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I think Baron Morton's health is something to monitor. Outside

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of that Texas Tech, I don't foresee a major gap

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due to injury. Where BYU can overtake Texas Tech?

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Speaker 2: If BYU wins, where's their ranking? What's the fallout from this?

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Does Texas Tech get bounced out of the top ten?

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Speaker 3: Give me your prognostications.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think if BYU wins. Here's what we learned.

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Speaker 4: About the College Football Playoff Committee this year and the

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way that this election committee has worked. They like to

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build in these safeguards. They like to build them like, oh, well,

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you know Utah lost to BYUS, They're always going to

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be a spot or two behind them. What's going to

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happen is BYU is going to jump Texas Tech. This

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is the same way we saw last season, a school

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like Clemson, who had a much better resume and record

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jump SMU after they beat them the ACC championship. He said, wow,

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why would they have to drop that far? Well, it's

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because the committee loves the head to head when they

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happen late.

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Speaker 6: In the season.

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Speaker 4: You're seeing that with Oklahoma and Alabama right now as well,

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even though Oklahoma's not playing great football. Watched a lot

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of the LSU game. So what I think is going

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to happen is the Committee is going to drop Texas Tech.

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Speaker 5: To eight.

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Speaker 4: They'll move them from four to eight, propelling BYU from

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eleven to seven. I think that's I do not foresee

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BYU climbs to nine and Texas Tech drops all the

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way to TEY can't drop. You cannot be penalized six spots,

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six spots for losing a game we didn't ask you

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to play. We can't move you behind Oregon who did

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not play.

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Speaker 6: By six spots.

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Speaker 4: So that's where I foresee the big twelve looking at

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the end of this, and that's the dream scenario BYU

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and Tech both getting home games. But I foresee it

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being Texas Tech at that seven spot BYU and the

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eight hole flip that flip that BYU seven Texas Tech eight.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, I like to take. I like where you're heading

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with this.

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Speaker 2: As far as the teams, that is Notre Dame the

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biggest qualm here. We've seen Brett Yormark, we've seen Joey McGuire,

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we've seen others attack openly and blatantly. The Notre Dame

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fighting Irish right now, is that the team they have

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to sue that's currently.

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Speaker 3: In the top ten.

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Speaker 4: I think so, and then it should be you're asking

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wholeheartedly what have you done for me lately to Notre

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Dame and what they have done for you lately is

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certainly win but against again, so that it is it's

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a problem with how the whole thing is set up

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that and again you're right, Joey McGuire's alluded to this

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that Notre Dame can sit where they sit right now

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and and just walk their way into the playoffs, like

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they've played the bottom teams from the Power for and

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they've played some really struggling, middling, you know, American Conference teams.

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I just don't see how how the committee look ben

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if they played if they played Texas A and M

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in Miami the last two games of this season, and

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they lost both of those they were tending to they'd

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be out of the playoffs. And you say, of course

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they'd be out of the playoff. Okay, Well then why

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them losing the first two games at A and M

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in Miami. Why why did they get into the playoff

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when they lost the first They still lost those two games.

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It shouldn't matter when the games are played, and unless

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there's a massive injury, unless there's something that occurs, you say, okay,

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Notre Dame got so and so back, and they're way healthy,

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they're way better. They're not They're the same team they

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were where they lost to A and M. The same

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team they were they lost in Miami. Miami is behind them.

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I think DYU should squarely be above Notre Dame.

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Speaker 6: I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 4: The gold helmet means a lot more for the pockets.

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Speaker 6: But it's not right.

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Speaker 5: It's not right.

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Speaker 4: What's happening in college football?

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Speaker 2: Drake Tall, best way to support you? What you do,

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I knew it. Congratulations. This is only the beginning, my friend,

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is that is handled through a lens of fairness, that

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appreciates the likes of Big the Big twelve and BYU

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love it.

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Speaker 3: My guy, Drake Tall, congratulations, will catch up again. Are

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you getting away? Are you heading out uh to Arlington

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or no?

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Speaker 4: You know, Ben, people keep telling me I'm a saint.

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Speaker 6: He told me, he man, I've got a good dude,

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he's a good person.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, no, you know, don't give me too many flowers.

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But maybe they're right. I'm going to a wedding this weekend, Ben,

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a wedding.

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Speaker 3: What do you will? Yes? Now, Drake, come on now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah they're both twenty Yeah they are BYU students.

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Speaker 6: No, it's joke, my guy.

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Speaker 3: Well, hey, enjoy the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Uh be merry and celebrate the the wedding, Sarah, celebrate

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the marriage. It's what brings you together, brings us together today.

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As they say in Princess Bride, Thanks so much, love

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and appreciate you man, Thanks for hopping on, no.

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Speaker 6: Doubt Vancouverer tales on me next.

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Welcome in the one the only representing ESPN. We got

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Trevor matt Its former BA right on the line. Trevor,

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how are you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm doing great man? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm living the dream man all as well?

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Speaker 2: In Cougar Country, Kilanie has been extended, be always going

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to the Big twelve Championship. I have a few, you know,

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a few gripes regarding the COLLG Football Playoff Committee, and

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maybe a few gripes about bear Bachmeyer not not being

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listed as a Freshman of the Year candidate or even

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Kialani being a Coach of the Year candidate nationalie. But

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all things considered, I'm grateful, man, and we're getting off

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of Thanksgiving and getting into December all as well.

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Speaker 5: Brother, Yeah, I know, I hear you. Though. There's so

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much good going on right now, and BYU is in

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position to control their destiny end of the playoff, and

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that's good too. That's never happened before. So we're in

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uncharted territory.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it, Trevor.

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Speaker 2: As you've been evaluating BYU this year and watching them

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win their way through their schedule, how would you described

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as BYU football team. You've check tape, you've watched the film,

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You've seen the outcomes. You see the strength of screedule,

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you see the FPI, you see the strength of record.

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Who is this BYU Cougar football team?

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Speaker 5: I think the word i'd use to describe them as

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resilient because they haven't always dominated all four quarters. I mean,

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I think there were four games where they trailed by

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double digits and three of them they came back to win,

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and including that big one against Iowa State. And so

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the way this team is played, when they get pushed

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in the mouth, they don't wilt. And that goes to

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the culture. I mean, you hear the players echoing what

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the coaches defined as their culture when you talk about

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unity and love and some words like love that you

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don't hear from a lot of other programs, and yet

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it's a real tangible thing with this by You program.

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And I think that's one of the reasons they sit

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it at eleven and one to be playing Texas Tech

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for the Big twelve Championship. It's that culture that you

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seem manifest on the field when things aren't going well

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that allows them to come back.

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Speaker 3: Resilient.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes when you say resilient, right, some people would interpret

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that as, Hey, they're gritty, they're hardworking, they're the the

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the gym rat, right, They're the overachiever.

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Speaker 3: They're the nice.

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Speaker 2: Little ball club that just doesn't have the talent to

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win and win big. And so I feel like that's

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been a little bit of their brand for a long time.

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Maybe maybe that's been the BYU brand for a long

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time since nineteen seventy two to present day, and they're

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just gonna have to overcome that.

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Speaker 3: Eventually.

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Speaker 2: They got to start acquiring top twenty recruiting classes like

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they just did, monopolizing the LDS talent, bringing in the

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best of the best, and competing at a high level

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year and in year out before they get the maybe

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the credibility of a big time program.

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Speaker 5: Right well, I think that's one of the reasons they

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sit at number eleven right now with an eleven to

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one record and with the stats that they have, because

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I think the committee might not be convinced yet that

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BYU as a program has elevated beyond just a couple

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of good seasons, and I disagree with that, and I

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don't think the committee should be looking at it that way.

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I know that they don't intend to, but they have

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human beings on the committee, and human beings are biased,

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and I think there might be just a little bit

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of bias because of that. But I think BYU is

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in position to be competitive as a top twelve team

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and as a playoff team, and maybe beyond that, if

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they play cleanly and if they do what they normally

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do to win games, which is to say, don't make

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mistakes and take advantage of the opponent's mistakes. The defense

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is one of the better defenses in the nation, and

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the offense is one of the most balanced offenses in

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the nation. And the offense no that's secondly in the

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Big Twelve in the rushing yards per game, are third

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in points scored in the Big Twelve. And so it's

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not like, you know, this is a team that is

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a one trick potent. The defense is very good of

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a lot of things. The offense is very good at

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running and throwing the ball, and that kind of balance

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is what you need to have an eleven to one record.

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And so, you know, I think the BYU program is

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ahead of what perception is. I think there are a

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lot of fans, not just BYU fans, but college football

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fans that see BYU in a positive light but want

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to see more against the top teams in the nation

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before they'll believe in them. But I think BYU has

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already shown that they belong in that conversation. And now

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I think college football as a nation needs to catch

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up with where BYU has arrived.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Matich on the Line, Cougar Sports, ESPN The Fan, Trevor,

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A couple of things I want to I want you

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to kind of help me out with here. If BYU

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be eat Texas Tech, Okay, obviously they're in the Collfootball Playoff.

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Speaker 3: What happens with Tech? How far do they drop? Do

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you think?

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Speaker 5: I don't think they drop far. I'm certain they won't

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drop out of the top ten, you know, I think

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they'll The key for them will be right now, they

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sit at number four, which would get them a bye,

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which they will keep if they beat BYU. But if

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BYU beats Tech, remember the tiers here. You've got one

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through four, get a bye, five, six, seven or eight

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get a home playoff game, and then there's a big

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scramble as to who will be nine, ten, eleven, and twelve,

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and so Texas Tech I doubt would drop past the

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top eight. But as you look at the teams they'd

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be competing for to be in the top eight. You're

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talking about right now, if ive, six, seven or eight

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are Oklahoma, Ole, Miss Texas, A and M and Oregon,

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and I think that you know Oregon being number five

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in Oklahoma being number eight, and I think Texas Tech

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right now is seen by the committee as being better

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than all of those teams. I think Texas Tech is

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seen by the committee as being much more balanced than

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Oklahoma both outstanding defenses, but I think Texas Tech's offense

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is much better than Oklahoma's right now. So I think

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if Texas Tech loses, what will happen is they won't

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drop out of the playoff. I think they won't even

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drop out of the top eight, which would still give

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them a home playoff game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is.

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Speaker 2: A situation in which we're kind of evaluating those that

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are deserving in those that are not deserving. Joey maguire,

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head coach of Texas Tech, Brett yor Mark Big twelve commissioner.

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They've openly actually attacked Notre Dame in their resume. It

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seems like the committee is purposely leaving out BYU as

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a candidate to be in the top ten.

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Speaker 3: And they only show, like, for instance, certain.

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Speaker 2: Images of resumes, and they leave out BYU out of

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the conversation completely, and they don't even stack up the

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resume with the equivalent metrics side by side versus the Miami's,

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the Notre Dames, the Oklahoma's, the Alabama's, because that may

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be a little bit damning putting up put them up

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next to were like, Oh, people may realize BYU may

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deserve to be in the top ten right now? Why

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why is the image having to be shut photoshopped by

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fans there in the side by side side of things.

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Speaker 5: Well, I've heard a lot about that, and you know,

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I think BYU isn't getting enough conversation. I think they

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would deserve to be in the top ten because you

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need to be in the top ten in order to

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be in the playoffs in that large team right now,

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because eleven and twelve will be taken by two comference

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champions that will be coming in from outside the top twelve.

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So right now, the top two eleven to twelve or

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BYU and Miami, and if the playoff were today, then

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both of those teams would be out in favor of

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either the Sun Belt champ, the American Champ, or the

712
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ACC champ some combination of that, and so by you

713
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,800
would have to be in the top ten. But I

714
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,159
think even if BUYU loses to Texas Tech for a

715
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,639
second time, as long as the game is relatively competitive.

716
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,880
I think BYU still should be in the top ten

717
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:33,880
just because their only two losses will be to a

718
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,400
team that's in the top four, right, and so Notre

719
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,599
Dame can't say that, nobody else can really say that

720
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,639
those would be the two most excusable losses as long

721
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,199
as they're competitive in the second one of anybody. And

722
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,639
then they beat Utah at number thirteen, you know, so

723
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,840
I think this is where BYU sits right now, or

724
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,960
even with a loss, I think they should be in

725
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000
the top ten anyway, as long as they were competitive

726
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,039
in that loss. Think s m U losing last year

727
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:07,840
in the ACC Championship game to Clemson, and SMU didn't

728
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,960
drop out of the playoff rance. So when you talk

729
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:15,519
about the well, I'm sorry I spaced your original question.

730
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:18,679
I wanted to set that up. You were talking about

731
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,159
just that.

732
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 3: We were talking more about like the side by side.

733
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 2: Number one name was there, you go, you attack on

734
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,840
Notre Dame and then the side by side imagery that

735
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,000
it seems like they're avoiding Why they're doing that?

736
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, I I hear you that. I don't

737
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,519
know that they're avoiding it. I haven't seen I've seen

738
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:41,000
the uproar on you know, the the Great Missing Missing

739
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,159
Where's b YU? But like one of them that I

740
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:55,519
saw had Miami and Notre Dame and I think Alabama, right,

741
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,000
and they they skipped b YU. So that means that

742
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:03,199
they would have number nine, number ten, and then number

743
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,920
twelve and they skip number eleven, which is BYU. I

744
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,920
don't know, because I didn't see how it was. It

745
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:14,360
was talked about on the air, but as I looked

746
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,760
at it, all three of those teams are two lost teams,

747
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,920
and they may well have been just comparing the two

748
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,079
loss teams with each other. And BYU is a one

749
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,519
loss team. Now I think they should have or not.

750
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:26,639
I don't say they should have in their show, but

751
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,280
I think it is totally fair to then throw a

752
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,199
BYU in there and say, hey, these are two lost teams.

753
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:36,119
BYU is a one lost team and their only loss

754
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:38,840
is to the team that's ranked number four in the

755
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,559
nation right now. None of the other teams ranked ahead

756
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:45,599
of BYU, I don't believe have a loss to somebody.

757
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:47,920
I think Oklahoma has lost to Ole Miss, so Ole

758
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,519
Miss is number six, and so you know, but it's

759
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:52,760
kind of rare that any of these teams have a

760
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:58,719
loss to anybody that's ranked that high, and BYU, along

761
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,519
with Oklahoma are the teams up here that have a loss. There.

762
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:07,159
Georgia lost to number nine Alabama, but BYU lost to

763
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,559
number four, right, and that's their only loss, And I

764
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:15,320
think that it would have been fair well, but I

765
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,880
think it's fair that that by US one loss resume

766
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:23,960
be compared with everybody that's competing for an that large bid,

767
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:27,760
even if they lose their conference championship game, And the

768
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,880
fact that it wasn't is something that I find incredibly curious.

769
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,039
But I do understand the process of television, and if

770
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:38,239
they're comparing like to like and they're comparing two loss

771
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,840
teams and then not including the one loss team, They've

772
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,719
got to draw a line somewhere. And so I'm not

773
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,840
justifying it, but I'm not attacking it either, because I

774
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,400
know that, you know, they don't always do things because

775
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,719
they don't like a certain team.

776
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Look, this is the thing.

777
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: Like, obviously, I run a local ESPN show that focuses

778
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,960
on Boa athletics. So the questions I get from fans are, hey,

779
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,199
are they leaving us out because of religious bigotry?

780
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: Again, are they leaving us.

781
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: Out because of some sort of like non football cultural

782
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,360
you know, differences, et cetera. So I'll get those questions,

783
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,199
and I've said I don't think so. I don't think

784
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,519
that that's the case. Would I actually lean on you

785
00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:21,039
wanted to get your thoughts on it, but you can

786
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,400
chime in on that and maybe validate my assumption and

787
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,480
where I lean in that. But I look at what

788
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:29,760
they did last year, right with the expanded playoff, and

789
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,039
I think at when the dust settled, the SEC had

790
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:37,639
a big right. They're like, look, the best twelve teams

791
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,239
didn't get in because we had a few teams that

792
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,400
should have been in there that were better than Boise State,

793
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:48,280
better than SMU, maybe better than ASU, better than whoever else.

794
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,960
But those are the main ones, right, Those were the

795
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,079
main complaints from the SEC. They're like, we didn't get

796
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:57,119
enough of our good teams in, and you allowed SMU

797
00:38:57,199 --> 00:38:58,719
to go in there and get their teeth kicked in.

798
00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:00,639
Speaker 3: They don't want to allow BYU.

799
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: They feel like SMU and b YU are pretty similar

800
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,039
to each other, and they don't want a BYU team

801
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:07,800
to just get in off.

802
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:11,559
Speaker 3: Of their resume. I guess it is the resume valid.

803
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:14,639
Speaker 2: To get in, But they don't think in late November

804
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:16,400
the way they're playing that they deserve to be And

805
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,239
they're not the one of the twelve best teams in

806
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,679
college football well.

807
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,159
Speaker 5: In November BYU, since they lost the Texas Tech has

808
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:27,719
annihilated everybody, and so that's I think, you know, the

809
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,440
way they're playing in late November is as good as

810
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,159
it needs to be in order to be considered for

811
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,840
that large birth. That they lose their second game in

812
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,400
that detect, I think they view that.

813
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: YU similarly to how they view SMU, and that what

814
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:42,960
happened last year and all the complaints that occurred after

815
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,159
the dust settled and the product in the College Football

816
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:50,039
Playoff would lead them to believe that the resilient, gritty

817
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:52,000
b YU team can't compete in the playoff.

818
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 5: No, well, there's there's one data point that is not

819
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:02,000
available now, and that is the Copper Championship game. I mean,

820
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:05,599
the thing about SMU is that you know, they finished

821
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:11,880
number ten after losing to Clemson in the ACC Championship game.

822
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:15,800
The week before that, they were number eight, and so

823
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,039
the committee said that they were happy about the way

824
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,159
SMU came back and they had a great second half,

825
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,079
especially a great fourth quarter. They just fell short. But

826
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,679
they looked to the committee like a playoff team.

827
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: But they lost by twenty eight to Penn State, and

828
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,880
then Boise State lost big was dominated by Penn State.

829
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:38,679
Speaker 3: They don't want that, it seems no.

830
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 5: But the thing is they don't. They're not supposed to

831
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,360
take that into consideration. They're supposed to look at the

832
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,320
teams as they are right now and rank them as

833
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,039
they are right now, and not speculate who might win

834
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,159
on a neutral field or in a home or away

835
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,400
game in the first round or anything like that. They're

836
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,679
not supposed to look at that, and so I hope

837
00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,880
that they don't. But I think last year, the fact

838
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,639
that SNU only dropped from eight to ten and still

839
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:07,800
made the playoff is good for other teams that are

840
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,480
trying to get in that large bid that might lose

841
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,199
their conference championship game. I don't think that you should

842
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,639
be penalized for losing it a BYU losees to Texas

843
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,920
Tech or the other way around. I think that the

844
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,760
winner of the conference championship game should get credit as

845
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,239
a data point in the committee's final evaluations. The loser

846
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,599
of a conference championship game. It should be as if

847
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,840
they never played the game at all, and they shouldn't

848
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,239
be penalized for that. And no team that did not

849
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:43,960
play in the conference championship game should be should get

850
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,360
an advantage over a team that lost a conference championship game.

851
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,639
I think that's really important. The problem for BYU now

852
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:53,400
is that they're sitting there at number eleven, So how

853
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,159
in the world are they going to move up? I mean,

854
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:58,599
if Alabama gets completely smoked at number nine in the

855
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:03,920
SEC championship game, then BYU could move up. They've got

856
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,039
a problem with Miami though, behind them, who beat Notre Dame,

857
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:09,760
And the committee's got a problem because they're getting a

858
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,760
lot of grief for having Notre Dame ahead of Miami.

859
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,360
Notre Dame in the playoff right now, Miami out of

860
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,079
the playoff right now, even though Miami beat the Irish

861
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:20,400
head to head, and BYU may end up being a

862
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,320
casualty of the committee trying to reconcile that. But in

863
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,239
the meantime, you know, BYU at number eleven, if they

864
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,440
lose to Texas Tech just the way it stack, probably

865
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:37,679
won't be in the playoff even if Alabama loses, and

866
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,159
so that's unfortunate, and that's why I think BYU should

867
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:43,400
be ranked higher than they are right now. It would

868
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,960
put them in a better position to get in that

869
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,800
large bid even if they lost the Big felve championship game.

870
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,039
And I think they deserve to be in that position.

871
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:54,440
But the reality of the current situation, right or wrong,

872
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,280
is that BYU need this win against Texas Tech in

873
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,920
order to get in.

874
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,519
Speaker 3: Yep, no doubt about it.

875
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:03,639
Speaker 2: You see this game playing out, how do you what's

876
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:08,159
going to change right in this typical or this scenario

877
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:09,760
obviously neutral field.

878
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:11,599
Speaker 3: I'm hoping it's fifty to fifty.

879
00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: I think it will be with fans of Tech and

880
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,440
BYU alike. You don't have the elements that were maybe

881
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:23,719
impactful for against BYU. They didn't play all that well

882
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,280
in those elements with the win, the muff punts, shanked punts,

883
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,000
just the offense was a little bit overly conservative, a

884
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,519
lot of max Pro two man routes. They really didn't

885
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:37,800
let their guys get out in space or not a

886
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,800
whole lot of quick game, not a lot of screen game.

887
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,199
Speaker 3: How do you see this game playing out?

888
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 5: Well, I see I see a lot of adjustments for

889
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,239
BYU's offense. I mean, first of all, the defense was

890
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,920
was borderline magnificent. I mean they didn't get any takeaways,

891
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,199
but other than that, I thought they were great. Texas

892
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:57,360
Tech only scored two touchdowns on offense five field goals,

893
00:43:57,639 --> 00:43:59,719
and three of those five field goals will when a

894
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,679
B one you turnover, gave Tech the ball in the

895
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,519
BYU red zone, and BYU stopped them all three times.

896
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,719
And so I think that's a big part of it.

897
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,519
And as you look at some of the metrics of it,

898
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,239
Texas Tech for the season, their red zone touchdown percentage

899
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,440
on offense is like in the eighties and BYU's defense

900
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,920
in stopping touchdowns in the red zone is like tenth

901
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,800
in the nation, and so BYU carries that advantage if

902
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,920
they're able to keep it up. So we start there.

903
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:33,400
You know, Texas Tech scored twenty nine points against BYU.

904
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,400
They averaged forty three on the season. So you've got

905
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,760
to think that BYU's defense doesn't need to change a

906
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,280
whole lot, just be ready for adjustment. Just the offense

907
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,599
that needs to adjust and everything that you mentioned then

908
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:49,760
I think is important because every defense has a weakness.

909
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,960
You just have to find it. You really need twelve

910
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:54,159
guys on the field on defense in order to cover

911
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:57,800
everything well, otherwise you've got a compromise on defense. And

912
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,320
I think one of the things that well, there are

913
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,239
a number of things that BYU can do to adjust.

914
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,119
I mean, one of the things that Texas Tech did

915
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,920
was they played a lot of zone and they came

916
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:10,559
flying downhill against the runner, against the short passes, and

917
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,679
that exposes them a little bit farther downfield, right. And

918
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,360
I think that they also packed in the defense in

919
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,559
terms of interior run. You know, they had a couple

920
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:25,880
of linebackers that almost acted like spies, although I think

921
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,880
they were just in zone coverage, but they just played

922
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,320
up and close. Well guess what that does. That creates

923
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,840
more space on the outside. They squeezed the contained guys

924
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,480
down inside against the run, and you can exploit outside

925
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:40,519
if you can get there and if you can get

926
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:42,960
blockers out in front. Because Texas Tech is so fast,

927
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,880
you're not going to just outrun them all the time

928
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,199
to get to the perimeter. But BYU puts blockers out

929
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:49,039
there all the time. One of the ways is what

930
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:53,800
you mentioned gets offensive linemen out there on screens, but

931
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:58,239
I think counters will be important. In other words, you

932
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,159
know by you needs to run and let's say just

933
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:05,480
the bubble screen. Well, in the first game, Texas Tech

934
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:08,599
attacked those downhill fast and hard. Well, so what do

935
00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:10,599
you do with that? You run a fake bubble and

936
00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:13,159
a go route one of the blocking receivers starts to

937
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:15,440
block it that he takes off down the field. That'll

938
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,280
loosen up those guys pretty quick, right. And also just

939
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,159
in terms of execution, there's the number of things that

940
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:24,559
Bear can do better that he can do that we

941
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:26,760
know he can do. You know, one of them is

942
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,320
to hit those one on one routes up the sideline.

943
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,119
He had one, I think at the third quarter where

944
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:33,960
Chase Roberts was running a vertical route on the right

945
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,119
sideline and he left a big alley between himself and

946
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:39,920
the sideline and the defender was right inside of him

947
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,760
in man coverage or match his owe. Either way, it

948
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,119
was manned by the time they got down there, and

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Bear threw the ball up and on top of the

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two guys and it was broken up. Well, if he

951
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had thrown that ball a little bit farther outside and

952
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locked it and dropped it down into the alley. Then

953
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Chase adjusts into the alley, the defender catches the ball,

954
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and for all the great speed and everything else that

955
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Texas Tech's defense has up front, you've got a one

956
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on one matchup on the outside where you've got a

957
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tall YU receiver at a quarterback that's good at dropping those

958
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balls accurately. He just didn't on that play. And so

959
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I think you'll see more of that opportunity when Texas

960
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,920
Tech comes up and tries to gumb everything up at

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00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,639
the line and BYU just needs to execute. But those

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opportunities are there, and I think that they'll attack more

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in places like that and have more counters so they

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could take advantage of the aggression of the Red Raider defense.

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Speaker 2: Last thing before I let you go, Trevor, appreciate you

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00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,159
spending some time with us pontificating and giving us wisdom,

967
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:47,159
football wisdom that only you can give. Kilane side man,

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00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,519
he's extended where we're hoping he is the polynes in Lavelle.

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Speaker 3: He's been here for ten years.

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00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,119
Speaker 2: We hope it's another ten to fifteen more years.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I'm trying to think of how

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00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,239
old Lavelle was was he seventy before he retired or

974
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,639
was he in that sixty five range?

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Speaker 3: Do you recall when he retired?

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Speaker 5: I don't recall, but he was there long enough to

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have been there a long.

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Speaker 2: Time, almost thirty years he was there coaching the Koogs.

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So what does the future look like for BYU? Do

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00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,960
you think, like, are they like, what's the ceiling and

981
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,039
what's the floor of BYU football? Do you think with

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00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:23,800
all the momentum that they have right now from your.

983
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:28,199
Speaker 5: Perspective, Yeah, Well, first of all, with coach Otake resigning,

984
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,960
I think that's brilliant. I mean, there's not that many

985
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:33,880
people that qualify to be a head coach at BYU,

986
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,679
And and the way his personality is in his style

987
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,159
of mentoring appeals to the kind of player that's attracted

988
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:45,639
to BYU, and those players respond to his style. And

989
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:49,920
I think he's a good combination of Lavelle, who is quiet,

990
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,519
and then himself who's firing, and he's got both of

991
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:54,679
those and I think the players love it. I think

992
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:57,840
he's as good a fit, as perfect a fit of

993
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,480
coach to university as I can never remember seeing. So

994
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:05,000
I think it's good for both sides, and I think

995
00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:08,679
that where they stand now is with the possibility of

996
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:13,880
Kelanie Satake doing what you said, being having a career

997
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:17,880
similar to Lavelle, that he's there for several decades. And

998
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,639
if he does that, I think he'll win a lot

999
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,039
of games, the program will be very good, but he'll

1000
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:26,159
have a chance, like Lavell, to really impact a lot

1001
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:30,440
of lives. And you know, you talk about value and price,

1002
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:32,960
those are two different things. So I'm glad that they

1003
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,480
were able to come together on that combination of value

1004
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:38,320
and price in order in terms of contract in order

1005
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,280
to keep him there. But overall, I think the ceiling

1006
00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:43,840
is as high as it was with Lavell. You know,

1007
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:49,239
I mean, have a consistently outstanding, nationally relevant program and

1008
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,239
when you're healthy and you have a great quarterback, then

1009
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,440
make a run for the top of college football. And

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00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:59,480
Lavelle got there once and he was relevant most of

1011
00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:01,760
the time. And I think that's what they can do.

1012
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,559
I can see down the road as long as coach

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00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:10,920
Satake and the administration remained aligned in their vision for

1014
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,079
where the program needs to go and how to support it,

1015
00:50:13,159 --> 00:50:15,039
because there's a lot that has to stay alike in

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00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:17,840
order for him to be there for a decade or

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00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:23,000
two more, but I can envision Kalani Satake field at

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00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:26,199
Lavelle Edwards Stadium. I think he has the ability to

1019
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,840
have that kind of an impact on this program and

1020
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,840
I would love to see it, and I'm glad they're

1021
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,840
staying the course so that it has a chance to happen.

1022
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 3: Love it, Trevor.

1023
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: Best way to support you what you do, how you

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00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,519
do it for all of our listeners, brother.

1025
00:50:41,039 --> 00:50:44,559
Speaker 5: Well on X at TEA, MATTACH, M A T I

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00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,840
c H. I took a bit of a hiatus, but

1027
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,840
I'm back on it now and looking forward to talking

1028
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,679
about what's going on here with the rest of the

1029
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:54,280
college football Championships.

1030
00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 2: Yes, you're going to be Are you going to be

1031
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,159
live on Saturday covering it all?

1032
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,119
Speaker 3: What's the schedule for you there at esp.

1033
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 5: On Saturday, No, because there's not enough games. But on

1034
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,239
Sunday I'll be on the ESPN Radio Selection show, so

1035
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,159
that noon Eastern and we'll be talking about what happened

1036
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:16,159
to BYU and whether it was reasonable or whether it

1037
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,719
was totally wrong. So we will be talking about BYU then,

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00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,920
So for all the people who are dissatisfied with the

1039
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:26,840
amount of attention to the Cougars in this process, there

1040
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,280
will be plenty of attention on Sunday, all.

1041
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,679
Speaker 2: Right, Appreciate you, Trevor. Thanks for hopping on today. Always

1042
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,480
a blessing. I was a pleasure talking ball with you.

1043
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Speaker 5: Appreciate it, Ben, Thank you.

1044
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:36,639
Speaker 3: There go.

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Speaker 2: That's Trevor Maddix, Ladies and gentlemen, and that segment was

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Great catching up obviously with with Trevor maddich Uh and Uh,

1057
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I want you to chime in on my pole oday

1058
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:15,880
which group, like you know, like there's a lot of

1059
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,280
haters out there, there's a lot of disrespect out there.

1060
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,039
I'm not a I'm not a full blown maybe conspiracy

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00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:23,679
theorist on everything, but I had become more for conspiracy

1062
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:28,119
theorist in twenty twenty. Which group most wants BYU football

1063
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:32,079
pushed into irrelevance? Number one, You tough fan base, most definitely,

1064
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:33,199
they want to see it all crumble.

1065
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:34,079
Speaker 3: Number two the.

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Speaker 2: Self righteous UH segment of the ld S Latterday Saints

1067
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,840
ry Mormons who think major athletics are are not uh

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uh are are not to be invested in. You can't

1069
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,280
put any money into it. It's a waste of time.

1070
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,280
Does not build up the kingdom uh, the colleg football establishment,

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00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,440
the coll football Playoff Committee, the blue bloods, the media networks, UH,

1072
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:53,920
those that are protecting the old order, the good old

1073
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,480
boys club. They don't want any of this new money,

1074
00:52:56,679 --> 00:53:00,639
any of this new found success to get in infiltrate

1075
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:03,480
their college football cabal, the monopoly, the oligopoly.

1076
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 3: And then you just have the.

1077
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,039
Speaker 2: General anti bau antilds haters.

1078
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,159
Speaker 3: Which one is winning this pole? It's actually number three.

1079
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: Everyone's out to get the college football Playoff Committee and

1080
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,000
the college football cabal right now.

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Speaker 3: They don't want anything to.

1082
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Speaker 2: Do with BYU apparently that that's what the Kugarnation is film.

1083
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,000
But number two is the Utah fanbase coming in with

1084
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thirty seven percent of the votes. By the way, so

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