Speaker 1: It is the VIC Gelvesinc.
Speaker 2: Breakdown time of Jumped out Brick this year with you,
but the comprehensive one at.
Speaker 1: Both the VIC twelve and chapters.
Speaker 2: Week begin each and every week with our hot takes
as we always do, and I'll start with my hot
take this week. Tom, I'm gonna say this, I will,
I can, I can be humble and uh, you know
what at Arkansas fans say, Oh lord, it's hard to
be humble when you're an Arkansas Razorback fan. Well, it's
I don't think it should be hard for Arkansas fans
to be humbled.
Speaker 3: These days.
Speaker 2: They've been humbled what event. But I will be humble
and admit that I was wrong about Vanderbilt. I said
that at the beginning of the year that I did
not think Diego Pavia was gonna take that big step up,
another step forward.
Speaker 1: And I did not think that Vandy was going to
be a contending team.
Speaker 2: Tom, I'll flip the pendulum around completely looking at what
they have. They got Texas this week in Austin, Auburn
at home, Kentucky at home, and Tennessee at home. They
need to win three out of their last four, and
Vanderbilt is locked in the college football Playoff. I don't
think they'll win all four, whether it's Texas this week
or Tennessee at the end of the year, they.
Speaker 1: Will lose one of those.
Speaker 2: I do expect them to beat Auburn in Kentucky, but
I do think they are going to go three and
four in that stretch and we will see Clark Lee, Diego,
Pavia Dejovon, de Jovonn's mom, and everybody in the college
football playoffs.
Speaker 1: The Vanderbilt Commodorees will be there.
Speaker 2: That's my hot take this week that Vanderbilt is a
college to wall playoff team.
Speaker 1: I'm in, He's in, you know.
Speaker 3: I love that. I hope so.
Speaker 4: Uh And then I think, you know, in a season
where my team's then I might be fighting for the
Commodorees here. I love that too. Theo von at the
College Football Playoff electric you know, and I think, did
you see.
Speaker 1: Him hanging with the Diego's mom the other night?
Speaker 3: I did, Yeah, he finally got it done.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: He was actually talking to uh Andrew Santino, comedian Andrew Santino.
He he didn't mention the mom, but Andrew Santino did ask.
He was like are you are you dating?
Speaker 3: Right now? He goes, well, I've.
Speaker 4: Seen a couple of different women, and he had mentioned
some flight attendant, but he didn't mention Diego's mom, which
he did.
Speaker 1: Not mention Jess Simms from college game to either right.
Speaker 3: No, he wasn't going to mention that now, I don't
think so, but yeah he did. He did ask.
Speaker 4: He did ask if THEO was dating, and he kind
of I don't know if he skirted around it, but
he he did mention that he was. He was in
the game, so be interesting to see. Uh maybe Vanderbilt,
imagine Uderbuilt wins it all somehow and camera pants it's
ad O kissing Diego's.
Speaker 3: Mom live on camera.
Speaker 1: I'm here for it.
Speaker 3: Brent must bring back Musburger on.
Speaker 2: The call, please please do all right, So that's my
take this week.
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt is a playoff team, Tom, Where do you want
to go?
Speaker 3: Usually I'd go to Oklahoma State. I'm not gonna do
it this week.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait until after I'm gonna go to the
other Oklahoma school.
Speaker 3: You can put this on the round table.
Speaker 4: Oh, you was going to lose to Tennessee this week
at Rocky Top and We've seen Brian Kelly recently get fired.
We talked about James Franklin getting fired that if if
Franklin gets fired, well, hell, anybody can get fired.
Speaker 3: I think the seat is a little bit warmer in
Norman than we even know. Jones.
Speaker 4: Here's my question to you. My hot take is just
playing that Tennessee will beat you in Knoxville this weekend.
My question is not you, is if my hot take
becomes true, does OU fire Brent Vinnables.
Speaker 2: So I've thought long and hard about this and being
on the OU beat now for the second week crazy.
Speaker 1: By the way, I've.
Speaker 2: Spent all this time around OU over there's the first
time I've actually covered OU full time. But I think
that OU is a completely different situation than most of
these schools.
Speaker 1: And these coach firings.
Speaker 2: For one, there is a respect level for Brent Vnables
that is different at Oklahoma compared to James Franklin at
Penn State and Brian Kelly at LSU. And the respect
level is they like him. Brent is one of their own,
he is family. James Franklin, Brian Kelly, those guys were
outsiders and they were not well liked. So that is
a difference. Vnables gets the benefit of the doubt there.
Oklahoma tends to treat themselves more like a traditional program.
We don't see the mid season firings. You know, I
don't think OU has any excitement. We have not heard
from any of these boosters at all stepping up to
the plate said Hey, I'm willing to be that one
to pay that buyout. Yes, it should have everybody on edge.
And we've talked about with Jenny Carlson on this show
just a couple of weeks ago, that if James Franklin
can go, if Brian Kelly can go, And Brian Kelly
was hired at the same time as Vinnables was He's
won more games in that stretch than Brin Vinnibles did
and he.
Speaker 1: Went to an SEC championship.
Speaker 2: I mean, heck, I was going over the numbers and
Kirk Signetti, Uh, you know he's he's done better uh
than Venables has in a two year stretch.
Speaker 1: Corbreto Inventables has done in four years.
Speaker 2: You know, there there's there's a number of examples, and
I know the expectation should be, Hey, this is year four.
Why is Oklahoma not competing for SEC titles and competing
for a national championship.
Speaker 1: That should be the expectation.
Speaker 2: I hear all of y'all, and I agree, But.
Speaker 1: Think about this, who's the ad at Oklahoma? It's joke
sticklar home. Does Oklahoma want Joe c in his final
year as athletic director to be in charge of a
coaching search?
Speaker 2: And do they want to make it a messy breakup
with Joe C of saying you know what, Joe Ce,
we don't trust you to do this coaching search. We're
going to overstep and we're going to take over the
coaching search and not let you decide who's going to
be that next guy. I think OU has been very
much about image and their brand. I think it's going
to have to be a straight up collapse to the
very end of the season before Oklahoma would let go.
Speaker 1: Of Brent Vinibles.
Speaker 2: You may not I like that answer, and believe me,
I herr you a Sooner fan, But I think that's
OU situation.
Speaker 1: It's different than the others. Whether it's right or wrong,
you be the judge.
Speaker 2: But I think O you is treating this as a
much different animal than these other schools are.
Speaker 1: For the reasons I laid out there.
Speaker 3: Tom, you make a good point.
Speaker 4: With Joe's situation his last year, you don't necessarily want
to task him with that. And then I look at, Okay,
who's available right now? Right obviously the coaches that got
fired don't. Oh, you would never hire Brian Kelly. It'll
be a cold day in hell for that, ever happens.
James Franklin, I maybe, Or do you go get John Summrall,
or do you go get GJ. Kenney or you know,
any number one of these other coaches that you could coach.
I think immediately if Venables was fired, oh, you immediately
goes to the top of the hot board. Is the
best coaching job available, obviously, and they could have pretty
much their pick of the litter here if that's what
they wanted to do, in my opinion, And you do
make a good point, though, I think Venables maybe I
wouldn't call him. I mean, he's obviously OU family, He's
you know, he's been there, he has his history there.
Speaker 3: He's not quite like Gundy at OSU or whatever right now,
but he's similar to that.
Speaker 4: It and it took Oklahoma State a while, and it
really took an absolute shitting the bed event for OSU
to get rid of Gundy.
Speaker 2: Right, And I'll say this about Venables, what's different about
him compared to also those others you mentioned Gundy, Brian Kelly,
James Franklin. The big thing that bv has done wrong
is just the results in the football field. He's well
liked in the community, in the locker room, how he's
carried the program, you know his gear right, like, those
things are all thought of as well and good. The
same can't be said for James Franklin, Brian Kelly, Mike Gundy.
There were other issues with those guys outside of just
pure results that Brent Vinables doesn't have.
Speaker 1: If Brient Vinables was not well liked.
Speaker 2: Then I think we would be talking about, yeah, is
this a loss this week?
Speaker 1: Is Vinables done?
Speaker 2: That's not the case because if he doesn't have those
factors working against.
Speaker 4: It, that is true. I mean, likability, UH could save
him this year. I think, you know, I think if
they do like I said, I think if they lose
to Tennessee, you still have you still have LSU on
the schedule, you still have Alabama, you still have some
tough games left. I think in the final four games
left I mean, I think they need to Obviously they
need a push, and it's I wouldn't is it. I'm
trying to think here, is it jover yet? If you
you could win your last four and and some other
chips could fall and we could see maybe, oh, you
getting a bit more favored here. But from from what
I think, from what we saw against Old miss and
you know, obviously against Texas, I think you know, but
tear being injured, even though he didn't say that was
just because of his hand, I think, oh, you was
building on for next year as well, been Arbuckle. I thought,
you know, outside of your outside outside zone. I thought
he is in my opinion and upgrade from the last
guy to say the least. But I think, oh, using
a fine spot. I do still think they'll lose to Tennessee.
Speaker 3: I just had to.
Speaker 4: I had to sound off on on your thoughts on
on Ventibles if.
Speaker 3: If oh, he was to lose or does lose this
week because.
Speaker 1: Giving me some content for the website, I appreciate I
gave you. Yes, I know you, sir. You mentioned Brian Kelly.
Let's talk about him and his firing.
Speaker 2: Uh here for a moment, Todd, let's start off with
Brian Kelly factor, and then let's talk about the LSU
jeb after that.
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, Uh, from day one, this was an odd fit.
Speaker 2: I think it reminds me of when Brett Biltmit went
to Arkansas, where you got a guy that's a Yankee, right,
He's a Northerner coming to the South, trying to play physical,
hard nosed football and he just doesn't understand the culture
at all.
Speaker 1: It means more it's different around there. You know, the
fake Cajun accent, my family and all that. I mean,
it was.
Speaker 2: It just wasn't gonna work from the jump. And that
doesn't mean that Brian Kelly's not a good coach. It
just doesn't mean.
Speaker 1: That he was right for the situation at LSU, and
he made a lot of enemies and a short amount
of time there.
Speaker 2: I think Brian Kelly, you know, I would think he's
probably gonna go somewhere are totally out of the South
for his next job. Maybe it's a UCLA or Stanford
or you know, some northern job of sorts. He's gonna
want out of the South because he didn't fit that
at all.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, even though Brian Kelly is
a good coach.
Speaker 2: I do think the firing is justified in that Brian
Kelly wasn't getting the results. They weren't meeting the expectations
what l SU wanted. There was no sign of optimism
that things were going to turn around and.
Speaker 1: Head in the right direction.
Speaker 2: Remember they were as high as top three in the
polls at one point this year. Nuss Meyer, you know,
was projected to be a heis and contender in a
first round pick, and that just never came to fruition.
Speaker 1: And here they are at three losses.
Speaker 2: They're pretty much out of the college football playoff fight,
they're out of the SEC title hunt.
Speaker 1: There was just no reason to be optimistic anymore.
Speaker 2: And so with that and him being not liked and
not treating people the right way. I heard your boy
Andrew Whitworth come out this week and say that he
reached out to Brian Kelly multiple times saying, hey, I
want to help out my alma mater, and Brian.
Speaker 1: Kelly basically told him to kick rocks.
Speaker 2: You know, and and Andrew Whitworth is an awesome dude,
you know, like you don't want wit around like that
doesn't make any sense at all, so Tom like starting
with that into things LSU. You know, was it a
quick decision? Was it something that they had to do
right now? I didn't have to. But I don't blame
him for doing it whatsoever, because I don't think this
thing was ever going to get on track.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and everything I've seen from players and former players
about Kelly it says pretty much said he was just
a shit person. Hindsight maybe twenty twenty. But do you
remember when they first hired him and he got on
one of those three sixty cameras, Yes, with the players,
it's so weird. I was like, but you don't have
that swag. I knew from that time on. I was like, yeah,
this is not gonna this is not gonna end. Well, Uh,
did you see did you see they asked coach Oh
about returning. Uh, and he said absolutely.
Speaker 2: He said he'd come back, even as an assistant under
Lane Kiffin. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought I saw something. He said I'd drive there today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well that'd be I don't know, for for TV purposes.
Imagine coach Ow teaming up with Mike Gundy and Baton
Rouge Man.
Speaker 1: That be fun.
Speaker 4: They'd have to do like a hard knock segment of
some some sort I would need it.
Speaker 1: So now L s U Tom this this job opens.
Speaker 2: And you know, on the surface level, L s U
Tom would be the best job on the market when
you look at location, conference, UH, facilities, history, L s
would be the best job.
Speaker 1: But there's some other factors involved that make this a
little bit messy. Let me explain.
Speaker 2: Scott Woodward is the ad and he gave Brian Kelly
over fifty million dollars in buyout money. And he also
gave Jimbo Fisher over seventy million dollars at Texas A
and M. And he's the guy running your athletic department.
It's not ideal and it doesn't sound like he's going anywhere, at.
Speaker 1: Least for now. And then the president for LSU, that
position is vacant. They're still looking for one.
Speaker 2: And so the governor of the state of Louisiana is
kind of running things as the de facto president of
the university, Jeff Landry, and he has come out and
said that that Woodward there's no way he is going
to choose the next head coach. He said, hell, I'd
rather have Donald Trump pick our next head coach than
Scott Woodward. So maybe Woodward's on the way out and
he just doesn't know it yet.
Speaker 1: But Woodword was caught off guard by those comments.
Speaker 2: So you got the governor of the state running things
an ad they had no confidence in, and they don't
have a university president. So if you're a head coach,
you know, it's just it's just like what you see
in the NFL, where you want to be in a
stable position with you know, an owner you trust, a
GM you trust, and that's what and a quarterback too,
and that's what makes a really good job. LSU has
all these great things going for them, but with these
major concerns when it comes to the leadership in charge, Tom,
that's going to really limit who you can hire for
being your head coach. I know that, you know, in
a perfect world, LSU would love a you know, a
Nick Saban or an Urban Meyer or you know, one
of these proven big coaches, and in normal circumstances, LSU.
Speaker 1: Could probably get who they wanted.
Speaker 2: But with these other factors, I think realistically, if you're LSU,
you're like, well, hopefully we can get Lane Kiffin, Hopefully
we can get.
Speaker 1: John Gruden or some of these guys. Because if if
you don't.
Speaker 2: Have stable leadership, then uh that that that job doesn't
doesn't feel well.
Speaker 1: You want to know what you're you want to know
what you're walking into.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think for that reason that they fall
down the list a bit. You know, we've we've mentioned
how you know, Florida isn't the same job that it
was maybe in its past, and I think that LSU
is kind of falling down that same path, not as drastically,
but there are If you're a coach going to a
new program and you want to say, hey, let's take
a look at pros and cons, I think you I
think you'd be blind to not see some of the
red flags at l s U.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that there's a ton of potential there.
I think they can get a great coach, but they
got to work out a lot of things. And Tom,
I don't know how this works out timing wise, because
you know, these the regular season still only got what
four or five more weeks left. But if I were
m s U, I would get rid of Scott Woodward.
I would go find a university president and try to
get all of that done in the next few weeks
before I'd go higher my next head coach, because that
next head coach is going to be limited. Uh, you
know your option is gonna be limited if if you
don't know who your leadership is. I think they're they're
they're best off taking care of that now before they
go that way they can get their their best potential
options for who should lead their program.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean the time was now and and this
gives you enough enough time to kind of settle down
for a second and say, Okay, who do we want
to be. They're not in the same position as maybe
Oklahoma State and figuring out, Okay, who do we want
to be? But I still think if you're that athletic
department or you get to be on that board, you
do ask that question, you know, what what is our
identity going forward? I think anybody that fires a coach
is the number one question as well, who do we
want to be?
Speaker 3: And they'll have to they'll have time to answer that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right about that. Let's talk a
couple more headlines and then we'll break down every game
in the SEC and the Big Twelve. This week.
Speaker 2: Tom Arch a little banged up, making good progress, but
uncertain if he will play against Vanderbilt. They already have
two losses on the year. They squeak by Kentucky, they
squeaked by Mississippi State. Probably should have lost Missisippi State
last week. They were down about what eighteen in the
fourth quarter. Tom, I think this is the way Texas
gets that third loss and then that's it one. You
lose three year out of it, Texas. You can only
get away with so much for for so long.
Speaker 1: I'll give credit. Arch has played some better football.
Speaker 2: He's not the reason why that they barely won these
games the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: He's played better.
Speaker 2: But even even if Arch plays a banged up Arch
going against Vandy, I don't think it's a great recipe
for Texas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't think so either. And I think they.
Speaker 4: Bendy has them or my gun for them a lot, a.
Speaker 3: Lot, much more than they previously thought.
Speaker 4: And I think there are worries there, especially if you're
a Texas fan, that hey, this despite you know, losing
against Vanderbilt Pryor, and we don't want to do that again.
There there's a bit of a concern I think in
d k R about hey, well, we can't take this
game Light.
Speaker 3: I think there is an upset alert brewing.
Speaker 1: I know you're right. We'll see we'll pick pick that game.
Speaker 2: More coming up in just a bit, A big twelve
headline for you, we talk about fired coaches. Tom, I
have a new new coach for the Neil Brown Memorial
to add to this list of a name that could
be on the outscer soon but has held on for
dear life for quite some time.
Speaker 1: How much longer does David Randa have at Baylor? They're
sitting at four and four.
Speaker 2: They play UCF this week, they host Utah, the following
week play at Arizona, and then they play Houston and
credit where credits do Houston's look fantastic? By the way,
big win last week against Arizona State. Granted Sam Levitt
did get hurt in that game, but still nonetheless, Tom,
I'm I'm looking at this. They gotta win two out
of their next four to go to a bowl game.
Speaker 1: I see.
Speaker 2: At least two losses to Houston and Utah and alight
lose Arizona or UF here, Like, you know, what, what
does Randa need to do to save his job here?
Even get into a bowl game might not be good
enough for him to keep his job there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 4: I think towards the beginning of the season, if you
remember we talked about I said, I think we talked
about most likely Big twelve coach to get fired this season,
maybe outside of my Gundy, and I believe, I said
Dave Randa, I don't think. I think his time is
is coming uh in Waco. I think his time is up.
And you know, short of a miracle, I think Baylor
will join, uh the college football carousel party that's going
the coaching carousel party that's going on right now.
Speaker 3: And I don't blame him.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think David Randa was a fine coach
when he first popped on the scene. He had Baylor
Haman and then since then it's you know, he got
to that level and never reached above that level, just
kind of went back down the stairs a bit each
and every season. It just never really seemed to pan out.
I would not be shocked to see Dave Marna looking
for a new job.
Speaker 3: At the end of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to either. I very well could see
them making change.
Speaker 2: That's a program that's got a lot of money, great
facilities too. Baylor is a good job, and I think
better job than what people realize. I do have one
more Big Twelve note, oh had tom.
Speaker 1: College game Day this week, going to.
Speaker 2: The Utah Cincinnati game, the first time they have been
on a Big twelve campus since Kansas hosted TCU three
years ago.
Speaker 1: Been a long time since game day has been in
the Big Twelve.
Speaker 2: However, they were at the Big Twelve Championship that same
year when TCU played Kansas State.
Speaker 1: And they were at Red River that year.
Speaker 2: Of course, both those schools are gone now OU in Texas,
but it's been a minute since game day, it's been there.
The college football slate this week isn't that great? And
so I feel like, you know, ESPN is sitting there saying,
let's do the Big twelve a favor here, let's uh,
let's throw them a bone and give them game day,
because that's all Big Twelve fans are talking about. If
you listen to our buddies like John Kurtz and Pete Mundo,
they all been saying that the Big Twelve continues to
be disrespected by ESPN and be ignored and all this,
and the voices have gotten louder and louder and louder
and now they're doing Game Day in Salt Lake, which
the iron E two time is the fact that Utah
is probably the most hated of all the new members
of the eight teams that have joined the Big Twelve,
you know, since since this has.
Speaker 1: Happened, but that that goes on.
Speaker 2: At the same time, everybody Tom has been talking about
T and t's coverage of the Big Twelve and how
good of a job they're doing with their Tier three package,
which includes, you know, one of the crappiest Big Twelve
games every week and they do an hour long pregame show.
Adam Lefco, who's their studio host, does a lot of
NBA stuff, or used to.
Speaker 1: Do NBA stuff. A lot of people know him.
Speaker 2: He took some flak for saying, hey, you know a
lot of people are ignoring this league, but we aren't.
Speaker 1: We unlike those other networks.
Speaker 2: We give a damn about the Big Twelve conference and
just went out of his way to say that. And
everybody's like, whoa where did this come from? T and
T and your third tier package? Take it up for
the Big Twelve. I mean, maybe that's the side of
good things to come of this potential partnership with the
Big Twelve and T and T.
Speaker 1: T and T is gonna add some basketball games this
year too.
Speaker 2: But without all being said, Tom, like you know, game
Day might go to a Big twelve school next week too,
with BYU playing Texas Tech. But even if it is
a bone, if sorts the league is getting from the
Big Twelve, I'll still say it's a good it's a
good thing. It's a big deal to have game Day.
Big Noon's been to several Big twelve games already this year,
and you got.
Speaker 1: This T and T thing going on.
Speaker 2: I understand the frustrations, I hear you, but this is
this is a good sign for the league to just
have this a step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: I would call it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely agree, and I'd be shocked if they
go to Big twelve schools back to back that being
college game Day. But I have enjoyed T and T
True TV broadcast this year. I look forward to more
of that, and I think, you know, their statement, you know,
on their coverage has been great and I think they're
you know, I think they enjoy I think they've enjoyed
it as much as we've enjoyed it. So hope to
see that relationship continue and keep getting better each week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's go through the slight again. We'll
start at the Big Twelve. Then we'll go to the
SEC here this week. Let's go ahead and get things
started here. Houston taking on West Virginia, Houston seven to one,
West Virginia two and six, Houston thirteen and a half
point favorites at home. Tom, I think we got to
start taking Houston seriously here seven and one, should get
a win this.
Speaker 1: Week, eight and one, and now we are.
Speaker 2: I think realistically talking about the Cougar is having a
shot at getting to the Big twelve title game and
a shot of making the College football Playoff. I think
they they actually belong in the conversation.
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, that'd be incredible for Fritz to do.
Speaker 4: I think obviously obviously gonna say Houston will won this
TWEK against West Virginia, but them, like Cincinnati, been very surprising,
maybe even Houston more so. But yeah, I like what
Fritz has been able to do there. Excited to see,
you know, maybe what maybe Houston is our ore are
the team we're in the room for in the College
fall Playoff. I would have laughed of you to told
me that at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's that's too funny. There also eleven am
U c F taking on Baylor.
Speaker 1: Uh. Tom.
Speaker 2: Even though rand is on the hot seat here, this
this is one he should win at home against USEF.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he should. I think he. I think if he's
coaching for his job, he needs this one.
Speaker 4: Well, he needs all of them, but he definitely needs
this one, one game at a time for him.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed. Uh.
Speaker 2: Then at noon on tune to Arizona State and Iowa State.
Speaker 1: This game in ames.
Speaker 2: I feel like both these teams are out of the
Big Twelve championship and College Football playoff picture, and both.
Speaker 1: Teams have been going through the injuries.
Speaker 2: I don't know what Levitts status is, but that to me,
he kind of determines if Arizona State has a chance here,
they need Sam Lemitt as close to full strength.
Speaker 1: If not, then I'll go Iowa State.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Sam Levitt, Iowa State wle when this one.
I know Iowa State's banged up defensively, but you take
Levit away, then it equals the playing field a bit.
Speaker 3: It's an aam so I'll take out of State.
Speaker 2: How about number thirteen, Texas Tech taking on k State.
The Cats with a very impressive win against KU on
the road last week. They're four and four. They're fighting
to make a bowl game. But Texas Tech sitting pretty
at seven to one, with an outstanding showing last week
against Oklahoma State forty two nothing win. Will Hammond out
for the year? Baron Morton not so sure what his
status is, if he's gonna be back or not. With
that said, Tom, I know k State's playing better, but
if Morton plays the Texas Tech should it should be
just fine, even if it's on the road in Manhattan here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. I want to say I
did see that.
Speaker 4: Maybe Tech is without one of the running backs, but
they have two more that are good in that fold.
Speaker 3: I think Texas Tech will be I think they'll be fine.
Speaker 2: Oh Lahava State taking on Kansas the Cowboys at one
and seven, the Jayhawks at four and four. KU after
that lost to Case State where they were favored last week.
Now they're you're keeping their fingers crossed about bull eligibility.
It doesn't look so easy now for KU. You got
this Arizona, Iowa State, and Utah to finish out. KU
needs to win two of them to get to a
bowl game. Tom, you look at both these teams. This
is probably OSU's best chance to get a win left
on their schedule, and for KU this is a must
win game if they want to get to that bowl game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think this is the the last chance for Ishue
to win another game in this season.
Speaker 3: I have no disc credit to Lancel. I pulled it.
Speaker 4: Just that's just facts, you know. Clint Bowen, your boy
Clinton coming home, LFK.
Speaker 1: Get the man some pizza shuttle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna get some pizza shuttle in him. I
think he's gonna be fired up to be back home.
And I'll take KU here. I think, what's that line.
I don't even know the line.
Speaker 1: AU is a twenty four and a half point favorite.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just say, right out of the gate, pall
put twenty dollars on it.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's you covers.
Speaker 4: They probably probably will not win all right now, and
I'll drop this article on the round table here shortly.
I got KU thirty one twenty four. I think it'll
be close.
Speaker 2: Okay, Arizona take it out, Colorado Arizona three and a
half point favorites Colorado at three and five, Arizona at
four and three.
Speaker 1: I'll say this time.
Speaker 2: You know, Arizona has looked better this year, Brent Brennan
in his second season. If Arizona is on the right track,
if this program is moving forward, these are the games
you can't lose if they want to be a Bowl team,
if they want to have optimism about going into twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 1: Can't be losing the teams like Colorado.
Speaker 4: Here, No, definitely not, and I don't think they will.
I think Arizona takes care of business. Three and a
half point favorite is act Colorado. Hey baby, it's getting
cold outside. It's definitely not as warm and bolder than
it is in Tucson, so we'll see.
Speaker 3: I think they take care business.
Speaker 1: Though, all right.
Speaker 2: And then Cincinnati taking on Utah. It is a little
big twelve after dark action, and this one's gonna be
a lot of fun. I think between the Bearcats and
the Utah six and two, they are about ten and
a half point favorites at home against Cincinnati, and to me,
I think we're just in for a treat with sores
By and you know, we'll see what the quarterback situation
looks like for Utah. I know they've played a couple
of different guys recently. Ten and a half seems like
a lot. I think I like Utah, Tom, but I
think this is a game that's close to the very end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it is too. I know that Utah
is favored here. I'm gonna keep riding with Cincinnati. I've
been riding with him for the past couple of weeks.
I like what they've been able to do this year.
I think we could very well see I mean, right now,
it's It's Tech Cincinnati BYU Houston, and you can you
can throw in Utah.
Speaker 3: For whatever it's worth too.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be two of those four in the Big
Twelve championship game.
Speaker 3: I'm excited for this game.
Speaker 4: I know it's football game days, first time coming back
to Big twelve, but they're gonna put on a show.
Speaker 1: And Dann Pierre has been cleared from the injury report
for Utah, so that's big for the Utes, but potentially
have him back.
Speaker 2: Let's go through the slate of games in the Southeastern
Conference now, Tom, Let's start at eleven AM Vanderbilt in Texas.
Arch Manning status unknown Vanderbilt coming in very hot, one
of the best teams in the country right now, Tom.
Speaker 1: I think it's close. I know Texas is favored, but
I'll go Vandy on the road in Austin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm gonna ride with you there.
Speaker 4: I think I've seen enough from Diego and Squad that
I think they're gonna upset Texas and DKR this weekend.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, we get Florida taking on Georgia. That game coming
up on two thirty at two thirty on Saturday, the
last time for a couple of years that the world's
largest outdoor cocktail party will take place in Jacksonville. As
they're about to do construction on the jag Stadium, They're
gonna move this game around a little bit. Georgia one
number five in the country. They look like a playoff team.
I don't expect this to be close. I know that
they're only seven and a half point favorites. To me,
I would hammer Georgia like. I think they win this
by at least two scores.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I like Georgia here too. I mean, we'll see what
you know. Florida can put up a fight post Napier,
But yeah, George is gonna win by two scores I had.
I'm with you on the hammer.
Speaker 2: How about this one Arkansas and Mississippi State. Arkansas at
two and six, Mississippi State four and four. Two things
to think about this one time is Mississippi State trying
to get both eligible.
Speaker 1: You need this Arkansas.
Speaker 2: If Bobby doesn't win this game, then I think he
loses out on his chance to be head coach here
because there's just not many opportunities left to impress after this.
You take on LSUS fired their coach, Texas, who's not.
Speaker 1: That great, and then Missoo.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Missoo's a good team, but they're
six and two here. I think you gotta win this
if you're Bobby, if you're gonna keep that job.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And you know they they had a good
first showing under Bobby. Didn't win, but I thought they
played very well for Mississippi State. Kind of quietly optimistic
season for them. Obviously they're not gonna be playing in
any SEC championship anytime soon, but so far kind of
might be more of an optimistic season than when I
would originally thought for them. So you know, I'm gonna
I'm gonna ride Mississippi State.
Speaker 2: Here other games on the slate, well, uh ole Miss
taking on South Carolina. Ole Miss twelve and a half
point favorites. Coming off that win in Norman against the Sooners,
I like shameless shambles.
Speaker 1: You know, he's been very good.
Speaker 2: The defense was better than I anticipated against Oklahoma. They
got off to a fast start. South Carolina almost beat
Alabama last week but didn't quite get it done. Tom
ole Miss at home, coming off a win against OU.
I don't think that they're gonna have the letdown this week.
I think ole Miss keeps the train moving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the old Miss really impressed me in Norman last week.
I agree, the kipping train keeps chew chewing.
Speaker 1: Owe you and Tennessee. Tom picked Tennessee.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick oh you and I have a couple
of reasons why Tennessee's defense is ranked about a hotter
and fifteenth in the country in points allowed per game.
That defense is bad and they could be without two starters.
That does not bode well for Tennessee at all. And
then the other reason, I don't trust Joey Aguilar six
interceptions led the country and picks thrown last year.
Speaker 1: That doesn't bode well for Tennessee.
Speaker 2: It's a must win game for Oklahoma to keep their
college football playoff hopes alive. Tennessee hasn't really played anybody.
Their best game all season was losing to Georgia at home.
I like Oklahoma. I do expect a lot of points.
It will be a shootout, but John Mattier and company.
They find a way to do something they haven't done
all season, and that's fine. Balance in the offense, either
the pass games really on or the run game's been
really on for ou with their running backs, it hasn't
been both of them on at the same exact time.
I like that to change this week, going up against
this horrendous Tennessee defense.
Speaker 1: Give me the Sooners on the road.
Speaker 4: I've told you why I think Tennessee. I think Tennessee
has been fighting all the year. Your concerns about quarterback
position for Tennessee, I think are very valid. I'm eager
to see how OHU responds after that this sheartening when
lost he and sold them is at home. Last time
they lost, they went into South Carolina and got to win.
Could they do it at Rocky Top? Maybe it's my
hot take this week, so I'm gonna keep it and
I'll keep Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Kentucky take it out Auburn. Don't know why anybody want
to watch this game. Kentucky two and five, Auburn four
and for Auburn eleven and a half point favorites Tom
with basically the only thing at stake here is the
job of these two coaches, Mark Stoops and Hugh Freese.
The loser might leave town, might be out of a job.
Kentucky's come very close to pulling off these upsets but
always comes up short. I'll say this, I'll go out
and limb Tom. This is the one Kentucky finally gets
it done. They beat Auburd, get the upset they've been
tried to get for three years. Over anybody, and Hugh
Freese walks out the door.
Speaker 3: I could see it happening. I definitely ConL see that happening.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean he's he freeze as is good
as done at Auburn and we can be talking about
it next week.
Speaker 1: We very well could.
Speaker 2: And Jackson Arnold that experiment has not gone well, and.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to decide his status on Friday. He's been
splitting reps all week with Ashton Daniels There