Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. In this episode,
Speaker 1: I am interviewing Venis from Manitoba, Canada. She has had
Speaker 1: a lot of strange experiences around her property and she
Speaker 1: believes it to be connected with the Sasquatch or Sabe
Speaker 1: as some people refer to. The Sabe is presented in
Speaker 1: the Seven Teachings as a manlike creature of the forest
Speaker 1: who symbolizes truth and honesty. I find this to be
Speaker 1: accurate within its meaning, because those who encounter a Sasquatch
Speaker 1: are faced with the challenge of telling those around them
Speaker 1: the truth of what happened. I like Venice and I
Speaker 1: can tell she is a very open and smart individual.
Speaker 1: Not to mention, she documented and took photographs of some
Speaker 1: of her strange finds. I don't do blurry photos or
Speaker 1: videos here, and she did a great job with the
Speaker 1: quality and lining up all the shots. Give her a
Speaker 1: thumbs up for that. I can't tell you how many
Speaker 1: people send me blurry photos expecting me to follow along
Speaker 1: and represent it on my channel. There are also a
Speaker 1: few channels that would try to use me to show
Speaker 1: their blurry photos or be extremely pushy on what they
Speaker 1: believe to be bigfoot. I just end up cutting ties
Speaker 1: with channels or researchers that try to use me for
Speaker 1: views or some type of gain. I am only interested
Speaker 1: in the truth, not channel views. If a person is
Speaker 1: able to relay their experiences in a way that makes
Speaker 1: sense to the listener, and they have clear photos of
Speaker 1: what they are describing, then I will gladly show it
Speaker 1: on my channel. Venise did a great job at describing
Speaker 1: the activity, and like I said, her photos were amazing.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for helping my channel out
Speaker 1: and teaching me about your beliefs, and also for showing
Speaker 1: us the forest around your property. All Right, with all
Speaker 1: of that being said, let's dive into this next interview
Speaker 1: with Venis from Manitoba, Canada. Hey, Denie, welcome to Sasquatch
Speaker 1: Theory and I appreciate you being on the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, it's my pleasure. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited too. So you've been experiencing activity at
Speaker 1: this property that you've been at for what six or
Speaker 1: seven years now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? This is my sixth year. It'll be seventh year
Speaker 2: in July.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, can you kind of go through everything
Speaker 1: where it first took off? And where you're at now.
Speaker 2: Okay, ah, Well, I moved in here in July first,
Speaker 2: and right away I took my dogs out to the
Speaker 2: woods seventeen acres here, some ponds, and I was just
Speaker 2: super excited. I lived in the country in another location
Speaker 2: before that, and there was a cree and I had
Speaker 2: some things going on there, but I wasn't like all
Speaker 2: focused on that, you know. I just moved here and
Speaker 2: I was planning where am I going to put my
Speaker 2: vegetable garden and all of that kind of stuff. And
Speaker 2: I went out exploring. I love doing that. We do
Speaker 2: it all the time. So that's I noticed right away,
Speaker 2: Like right when I started into the right into the woods,
Speaker 2: there's some trees that have been twisted early on in
Speaker 2: their life, I guess, and just can change need to
Speaker 2: grow so way up high, there's these weird twists in
Speaker 2: a few trees and a grouping. I've never seen that before.
Speaker 2: I've seen like weird you know, growth in trees and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but I don't know. These just stuck
Speaker 2: out stood out to me, and lots of that. And
Speaker 2: then I noticed I didn't know what anything was. I
Speaker 2: just noticed a weird amounts of big logs and big
Speaker 2: huge trees all kind of like me in teepee shapes
Speaker 2: and just arches, and like I said, I lived in
Speaker 2: the country before this place, and I've never came across
Speaker 2: any of that. I've done plenty of camping, and since
Speaker 2: I was a child, we've gone to cabins, and we
Speaker 2: had a cabin that we used to go for the
Speaker 2: whole summer and we've never we've never eaten. I guess
Speaker 2: I just never noticed it, or it's new here, I
Speaker 2: don't know. But so these things were standing out, like
Speaker 2: arches that were really big, like we can go under them,
Speaker 2: and they seem to go in a row, you know,
Speaker 2: so you could just like walk under them all some
Speaker 2: were small. I don't know, they just stood out. One
Speaker 2: of the very first walks along, I was following a
Speaker 2: deer trail. Well, they were all kind of deer trails.
Speaker 2: We eventually cut some as far as we can get
Speaker 2: in and then so I was following this one deer
Speaker 2: trail that goes along like a it's kind of like
Speaker 2: a ditch where property is separated and they dig it
Speaker 2: out and put a fence up. Fence is now all
Speaker 2: gone and down, but so there's like a ditch where
Speaker 2: water collects and stuff. So there's a deer trail along there,
Speaker 2: and I noticed, like right right beside the trail, right
Speaker 2: in plain view. I'm only five foot, but this thing
Speaker 2: was right at my eye level. It was a mouse
Speaker 2: impaled on a branch, and I just was very puzzling.
Speaker 2: I took pictures. I take pictures of everything all the time,
Speaker 2: like mushrooms and flowers and whatever stands out weird, you know,
Speaker 2: woodpecker homes and things like that. And I just so
Speaker 2: in that area where I saw that mouse's it gave
Speaker 2: me a weird feeling and almost like I was being watched,
Speaker 2: but by small things, you know. It didn't feel like
Speaker 2: something big was watching me, just like a bunch of
Speaker 2: little eyes. And I just caught that like the area
Speaker 2: where the fairies live. You know, everybody knows about fairies,
Speaker 2: but I didn't think there were any. It just felt
Speaker 2: like that with all the small arches, and just had
Speaker 2: a different feeling from the rest of the place. And
Speaker 2: back then it was like twenty sixteen ish, I had
Speaker 2: a different dog pit both and these three little ones.
Speaker 2: And there was one part of the trail that she
Speaker 2: would not go down, and I didn't know why, and
Speaker 2: so I just never went there. She just, you know,
Speaker 2: she would normally run ahead of me and sniff around
Speaker 2: and run back and forth, and I would just follow
Speaker 2: along wherever she picked. And there's always that one area
Speaker 2: she would never go down. She would stand and stare
Speaker 2: down it and turn around and just go the other
Speaker 2: way down another trail. So I kind of avoided that
Speaker 2: area for until she passed. And I have a new
Speaker 2: dog and she's younger, so she was just and everywhere,
Speaker 2: and I basically wound up in that area, but I
Speaker 2: didn't go down that trail. I kind of just made
Speaker 2: my way through the forest and found wound up there,
Speaker 2: and it was creepy, so creepy. It's felt darker there,
Speaker 2: even though it was the same, it felt colder and
Speaker 2: just creepy. It's the middle of the day, and so
Speaker 2: I just really don't go there. Just just kept getting
Speaker 2: weird feelings in certain areas and my dogs would react.
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 1: You have this structure that you found here, it's like
Speaker 1: a giant X or like a star. Yeah, tell me
Speaker 1: a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these structures just keep coming. I don't know when,
Speaker 2: like I'll I go out every day, So I take
Speaker 2: my dogs out as soon as it's nice out where
Speaker 2: every day we go out and I try and do
Speaker 2: different paths, but there's there's these main ones that take
Speaker 2: you branch off, so I'm always down these main ones.
Speaker 2: And that was just one that would just happen to
Speaker 2: be there right beside the path in the trees that
Speaker 2: I normally go down, and I was like, Wow, what
Speaker 2: the heck? How come I didn't see that before? Just
Speaker 2: take a picture, take a few pictures, you know, because
Speaker 2: sometimes they don't turn out, and just lots and they're
Speaker 2: just new structures all the time, teepee type.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and I'll be posting every photo in the video,
Speaker 1: so just kind of pretend like we're looking at it.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. Okay, pictures, but yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to send in the future or whatever
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, sure, I got it and
Speaker 1: I'll show it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So the mouse that was in how high up was
Speaker 1: that that stick or the tree? You know, all my.
Speaker 2: Eye level, like it was directly in my face and
Speaker 2: it was on my right in the tree line because
Speaker 2: on the other side was that ditch. So the trees
Speaker 2: have been cleared out, but then there's more trees after
Speaker 2: the ditch, and so I was like kind of belong
Speaker 2: the ditch on my left and the and the mouse
Speaker 2: was like right in my face and it was like
Speaker 2: fresh not there wasn't blood or anything, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: like all, you know, shrunken or anything like that. And
Speaker 2: I examined it like a little weirdo and took pictures
Speaker 2: of different angles just to see like how did it
Speaker 2: get on here? And it was just weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fact that it was impaled from the headside.
Speaker 1: It takes hands to do that. And it seems like
Speaker 1: where it was it was placed there purposely, so you
Speaker 1: would see it intentionally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, And then other things like intentional. It's
Speaker 2: it felt intentional, like it made me like look around,
Speaker 2: like what's someone here? Because like I said, I'll go
Speaker 2: out every day and on the way to the forest,
Speaker 2: we have ponds and my dogs love swimming and it's
Speaker 2: usually hot here in the summer, so that's what we
Speaker 2: would do. I would go out to the pond and
Speaker 2: there's a couple of big rocks that I sit on
Speaker 2: and they go swimming, and I'll throw stick back and
Speaker 2: forth and they go in and out and I just
Speaker 2: sit there and we eventually made a floating dock. But
Speaker 2: I usually just sit on this rock. And one day
Speaker 2: I was just we're walking up there, and on the
Speaker 2: rock is a row of rocks placed in a row
Speaker 2: like totally like spaced nicely. And I was just like
Speaker 2: that is odd because this is where I sit. There
Speaker 2: wouldn't be any like loose rocks on there, you know.
Speaker 2: And I was just like, okay, so I take a picture.
Speaker 2: I left them, and they just stayed there until like
Speaker 2: I wanted to sit there. So one day I just
Speaker 2: pushed them off. And and I've had other things like feathers.
Speaker 2: I'll be I'll go back, I'll go out, and then
Speaker 2: when I come back down the same path, there'd be
Speaker 2: like a thing of feathers one two, three, like and
Speaker 2: I picked them up, like, oh they're nice. I usually
Speaker 2: take whatever's there. One time we were going four by
Speaker 2: fouring around here. Way out there's a legacy forest and
Speaker 2: they logging and stuff like that and then replanting and
Speaker 2: there's tons of berries there. We go berry picking and
Speaker 2: stuff there. And one time we were out there riding around,
Speaker 2: came back and on our truck is a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of feathers just on the hood, and nobody goes out there,
Speaker 2: Like it's not like a favorite public spot that people
Speaker 2: go to. You know, they really don't even know about it.
Speaker 2: You know, people around here know the legacy for us,
Speaker 2: but they don't even really go. Like you could see
Speaker 2: there's no tracks of cars or ATVs and stuff and there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I find things like on the hood of my
Speaker 2: car one time there was a goat skull and spine
Speaker 2: and I was just like, what is this? And another
Speaker 2: time we were riding, we went up and I was
Speaker 2: videoing because I was a passenger so I was able
Speaker 2: to video. And on the way back, I'm doing the
Speaker 2: same thing and there's like a mink or a weasel
Speaker 2: or some type of wild animal right there in the road.
Speaker 2: They have to go around it, and I have a
Speaker 2: video of that. I was like, wow, that wasn't there.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, but I didn't add anything up, Like I
Speaker 2: really just thought, that's I wonder why that's there, Like
Speaker 2: always just just a question and then just don't think
Speaker 2: about it anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and where exactly or is all this taking place out?
Speaker 1: You don't have to give like an exact description, but
Speaker 1: I don't think we mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 2: I'm in the prairies in Manitoba, Okay, and i am
Speaker 2: east of the city of Winnipeg. So I'm out about
Speaker 2: about forty five minutes from the city m and there's
Speaker 2: a great big eggsy for us. If everybody wants to,
Speaker 2: you know, just don't come to my house. We're out
Speaker 2: in the kind of because we don't really you know,
Speaker 2: want to be We just want to be private.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So there's a lot of forest around the area.
Speaker 2: Yes, lots lots of water and lots of forest, lots
Speaker 2: of rock, which I you know, I didn't even all
Speaker 2: of this. I'm still learning. I'm still learning about like
Speaker 2: the sounds they make and all of that. Like I would,
Speaker 2: you know, something would happen, or something would be strange,
Speaker 2: or I'd see something new, and I would tell I
Speaker 2: have a couple of friends that love the paranormal and
Speaker 2: all that, so I would tell them. And I was
Speaker 2: always just thinking, you know, it's like ghost activity or
Speaker 2: alien or you know, I don't know something that's in
Speaker 2: the forest, you know. I would eventually learn a little
Speaker 2: bit like there's little people that they call, you know,
Speaker 2: and you stuff like that, and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: is that what's over there then? Or uh so, I
Speaker 2: really wasn't even connecting it to bigfoot or sasquatch or
Speaker 2: whatever you wanted to call it. I really didn't even
Speaker 2: know what I thought about that subject. I was just
Speaker 2: I didn't know about gifting or mind speak or you know,
Speaker 2: until later, and when I heard about all that, I
Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, that's where, you know. I don't
Speaker 2: even know if it's an animal that's huge like that
Speaker 2: hiding here in the flat prairies. You know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I know now I haven't seen. I haven't seen yet,
Speaker 2: and I prefer to call them sabe. And just because
Speaker 2: now that I've spoken about it with my friends and
Speaker 2: my family and stuff, people have went, wow, You're so lucky.
Speaker 2: They're freaking out, and I'm like what, and they're kind
Speaker 2: of telling me more things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you believe they are coming around your
Speaker 1: property specifically?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, this is a I've given a lot of thought,
Speaker 2: and I think it has something to do with me
Speaker 2: and the area I think there. I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's some sort of like thin veil here or it's
Speaker 2: my energy that they pick up on. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: I'm special or anything. I do know that I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit different than a lot of people. I've had,
Speaker 2: you know, many different experiences since i was little, and
Speaker 2: and so it has my you know, my sibling and
Speaker 2: all that too, So it's not just me. We've had
Speaker 2: like psychic situations. We would even play, Like my oldest
Speaker 2: sister would call me in her mind from her bedroom
Speaker 2: and I would hear her, you know. But I didn't
Speaker 2: like grow up doing all of that. I kind of
Speaker 2: I grew like I got married young and started having
Speaker 2: kids young, and I was just like enveloped in that,
Speaker 2: and I did nothing, nothing until I was visited by
Speaker 2: aliens when I had my second child. And then so
Speaker 2: I always just thought it was that kind of stuff
Speaker 2: going on, just just weird stuff here. And I think
Speaker 2: they I think I'm just open or something something about
Speaker 2: my energy. I don't know, I don't know really, but
Speaker 2: this is just something I feel just because all my life,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And I feel the same way as well, just because
Speaker 1: a lot of the activity that I'm having seems to
Speaker 1: be directed towards me, and it's not negative or evil
Speaker 1: per se, you know. I see it as a positive thing.
Speaker 1: But when I go deeper in the forest, I find
Speaker 1: less and less sign. Or I go to other areas
Speaker 1: around this forest and I'm not seeing that sign. Only
Speaker 1: around my trails where I'm walking, the places that I
Speaker 1: go and have been. It's like they want me to see,
Speaker 1: you know, they leave little gifts and a little strange things.
Speaker 1: So you know, as physical as they are, I can't help,
Speaker 1: but wonder you know, the spiritual aspect behind it either.
Speaker 2: Well, that was the hardest part for me to like
Speaker 2: to grasp. Well, it was all hard. My friends are
Speaker 2: really telling me, no, Vinez, no, no, Like look at
Speaker 2: the video, watch these interviews, and I'm like okay. And
Speaker 2: then every time there would be something that I can
Speaker 2: connect with or I can relate with, or that's happened,
Speaker 2: or you know, I'd be like, oh oh, oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, oh my goodness. Like I have one
Speaker 2: friend that says talk to Sabby, you know, like meditate
Speaker 2: and talk, and I was just like, oh, I don't
Speaker 2: know about that, you know, I just but then recently
Speaker 2: I tried it. I was in the hot tub. It
Speaker 2: was just like it was pitch blackout and we were
Speaker 2: just quiet, my husband and I, but he was just
Speaker 2: sitting there. I can't even see him, so I think
Speaker 2: he was just had his eyes closed. I closed my eyes,
Speaker 2: and I felt like really different, like I I'll pray,
Speaker 2: I pray to God and sometimes you can feel that
Speaker 2: connection as you as you're praying, and sometimes it just
Speaker 2: was like ooh, did you hear me? You know kind
Speaker 2: of thing. This time, like in the hot tub, it
Speaker 2: was really different. It felt like I was in space,
Speaker 2: like I was just floating in space. I couldn't feel
Speaker 2: the water, I couldn't feel the seed I was on,
Speaker 2: and my mind all of a sudden well and I
Speaker 2: started to talk to Sabbe and I was asking him
Speaker 2: if he could help my friend find a place to
Speaker 2: live because she's in this predicament. So I did. I
Speaker 2: just started asking, can you find a perfect place? And
Speaker 2: then I got this weird vision in my head and
Speaker 2: I was like inside, I was like whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2: But I could see it and it was like a
Speaker 2: group of sasquatched the typic call kind you know, Harry
Speaker 2: way far away in a distance on a beach, walking
Speaker 2: coming out of the woods, going on to a beach.
Speaker 2: And then I was just like whoa and went away
Speaker 2: and I didn't say anything to my husband or anything,
Speaker 2: and then he started talking, and you know, just that
Speaker 2: was it. I forgot about it like usual. I just
Speaker 2: like I just stopped thinking about stuff. And then I
Speaker 2: the next morning, my friend said, look, Fornies, I just
Speaker 2: open up the ads for places and look at this place.
Speaker 2: And it's a perfect place bedrooms, closed to for her
Speaker 2: kids to go to school. But it's out in the
Speaker 2: country on a ranch, and blahah blah blah blah. We're
Speaker 2: still waiting to see if she's going to get it
Speaker 2: or not. But anyway, that was like wow, wow, I
Speaker 2: didn't hear a voice or anything. And then the next
Speaker 2: it just recently, this is just recently. It's just so exciting.
Speaker 2: I was in the basement. I have rabbits that I
Speaker 2: that I have reed and pets and stuff, and they're
Speaker 2: in they have in the basement. So I was down
Speaker 2: there and I was cleaning, and just clear as a bell,
Speaker 2: right here was a whistle, just like I can't even
Speaker 2: do it until I hear I heard another interview and
Speaker 2: he did it, and I was like, oh, that's it.
Speaker 2: I have a parrot and he doesn't do that. It's
Speaker 2: not his and I wouldn't hear him in the basement anyway.
Speaker 2: And it happened again that night, all whistle when I
Speaker 2: was in the shower. I was just watching and it
Speaker 2: just stops you and you're dead in your tracks and
Speaker 2: you're like looking around and nothing down there is going
Speaker 2: to whistle, Like rabbits don't do that. They have never.
Speaker 2: I was just like, but you wonder, you doubt, Like
Speaker 2: I'm always doubting. My friends say no, but he's but
Speaker 2: I'm just always doubting it, Like it's it's just weird.
Speaker 2: It's just too weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I understand. So if I wanted to go
Speaker 1: out in the forest and mind speak myself, how would
Speaker 1: I go about that?
Speaker 2: Well, I just I speak out loud m most of
Speaker 2: the time. And my I have a native friend, well
Speaker 2: it's my daughter's friend and her mom and they're like
Speaker 2: deep into their culture. And they came over where and
Speaker 2: they wanted to see because I was posting some things
Speaker 2: on Facebook and stuff, and uh, because I didn't I
Speaker 2: didn't really even know until I accepted it all I stopped.
Speaker 2: But they came over and they were telling me some
Speaker 2: things about the spirits. In the in the forest, and
Speaker 2: one is Sabbe. That's when I learned about the name Sabbe.
Speaker 2: Before then, I didn't even know what to call it
Speaker 2: because it felt funny. It just didn't feel right. It
Speaker 2: felt like no bigfoot, you know, that's like cartoony or something,
Speaker 2: you know. But they came and they showed me what
Speaker 2: to do. I don't always do it, but I do. Uh.
Speaker 2: They sit to offer tobacco. So right, uh, right, when
Speaker 2: you get to the opening in the trees, you stop
Speaker 2: and you speak to the spirits. You just tell them
Speaker 2: your intentions that you're just going to go for a walk,
Speaker 2: enjoy the nature and just see what's what we could see.
Speaker 2: We don't intend to hurt anything or do anything bad.
Speaker 2: We just want peace and enjoy your world. And we
Speaker 2: offer tobacco. So it just break up a cigarette and
Speaker 2: she sprinkles it in the wind. Now, oh, when she
Speaker 2: did this the very first time, it was crazy. We
Speaker 2: stood and she's showing me for the very first time.
Speaker 2: And quiet. It gives me goosebumps when I think about that. Quiet,
Speaker 2: not a stitch of breeze, not a sound. And she
Speaker 2: was speaking and I was totally focused on her, so
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, maybe that's why because I noticed, I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm just focused on her, so I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 2: And then when she finished, she offered the tobacco, and
Speaker 2: a gust of winking blew it straight into the trees,
Speaker 2: straight south into the trees. And she was like, did
Speaker 2: you notice that? And I said yes, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: And she said, did you notice the how quiet it went?
Speaker 2: She was even amazed. Yes, oh my gosh. So now
Speaker 2: I haven't done a long time because it's been winter
Speaker 2: here it's horrible. But she has taught me to do that,
Speaker 2: so I do that when we go plotting or fishing.
Speaker 2: I take one of my cigarettes and I break it
Speaker 2: up and I offer it out. Now about the mind speak,
Speaker 2: I it just happens. I don't try and.
Speaker 1: Do it.
Speaker 2: I really don't. But the more that I think and
Speaker 2: talk to Sabe in my head, the more I'm getting
Speaker 2: an answer like that. I'm really intrigued with the windows,
Speaker 2: like I'm always anytime I'm going from room to room,
Speaker 2: I check the window, especially in the evening when the
Speaker 2: light isn't so bright on the snow. And so the
Speaker 2: other night I was standing in my bathroom having a
Speaker 2: cigarette and because it's too cold outside. So I was
Speaker 2: in the and I'm looking out the window and I
Speaker 2: just start and I was like, sabbe, if you can
Speaker 2: hear me, this is all in my head. If you
Speaker 2: can hear me, I think I'm ready to see you.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be afraid because you've you could,
Speaker 2: you could have hurt any of us by now, and
Speaker 2: you haven't. And I would really like to see you.
Speaker 2: You get to see me. And I said, but it
Speaker 2: has to be nice and clear. I won't take a picture.
Speaker 2: I just need to nice and clear so that I
Speaker 2: don't doubt myself. And I said, didn't. And I feel
Speaker 2: like they know me, so I say, and you know me,
Speaker 2: like I'm always doubting, always questioning, and you know, second guessing.
Speaker 2: And I said, so it'll have to be nice and clear.
Speaker 2: And I said, so don't play peek a boo or
Speaker 2: morph into anything. And right away, we don't morph came
Speaker 2: into my head.
Speaker 3: It was soft but deep, and I was like, I
Speaker 3: put my cigarette out and I was just like so
Speaker 3: excited but kind of freaked out, like it was not
Speaker 3: my voice.
Speaker 2: It was a fought voice, and it's it. We don't morph.
Speaker 1: So do you think they were Yeah, do you think
Speaker 1: they were telling you that they're not invisible and they're
Speaker 1: they're around us all the time or how did you
Speaker 1: perceive that message?
Speaker 2: I the impression that I got with that answer was, well,
Speaker 2: I questioned it. I was like, well, what do they
Speaker 2: define morphing ads? Because what I when I said don't
Speaker 2: morph into anything, was like, don't change into a tree
Speaker 2: or a deer or you know, don't like change into
Speaker 2: a ball of light, you know, kind of thing I
Speaker 2: want to see you. And so that's my my intention
Speaker 2: with the question was that my that was my definition
Speaker 2: of morphing. And so when he said we don't morph,
Speaker 2: I questioned, Oh what did he think? I meant by morph?
Speaker 2: And I think they don't morph into something else. I
Speaker 2: think that they can disappear, which is different. That's just
Speaker 2: something I don't know, of course I don't know, but
Speaker 2: that's just what I think. I think that they can
Speaker 2: change their vibration and be invisible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there has to be something to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there is, because I have video that I
Speaker 2: tried to send you of one day I came home
Speaker 2: and I had we were just driving up and go
Speaker 2: in a park and I had this feeling like, ooh something,
Speaker 2: I feel something. I feel something. And this is before Bigfoot,
Speaker 2: this or sasquatch. Like. My friends were kind of telling
Speaker 2: me that, but I was just like, what, it's invisible.
Speaker 2: It's got to be a ghost, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I got them on my security camera of a rock being.
Speaker 2: I have rocks on my railing because I just love
Speaker 2: rocks and all those kind of things, like cool things
Speaker 2: that you find, and so I had some on the
Speaker 2: railing there. And in the video you can see that
Speaker 2: it's not windy, and this isn't the smallest rock on
Speaker 2: the ledge, and it gets if you really watch, there's
Speaker 2: a weird that on that one rock. There's a weird vibration,
Speaker 2: gleitchy type of of what do you call PIXELI for
Speaker 2: couple of seconds and then within just and then right
Speaker 2: away it goes flying onto the hammock that is underneath
Speaker 2: that railing, and it totally looks intentional, totally. It looks
Speaker 2: like it's shoved.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And none of the other rocks, there's smaller ones and
Speaker 2: all that on there, none of them even budge. Nothing
Speaker 2: moves except for the hammock. The rock goes on it
Speaker 2: and it's just it's not It's just a small rock.
Speaker 2: But and then I've had rocks thrown at me, well,
Speaker 2: not not really thrown. I I said. I have rabbits
Speaker 2: and they're English and a gooras and they have to
Speaker 2: be groomed, and if it's nice outside, I do it outside,
Speaker 2: because it's it's crazy there. So I was grooming a
Speaker 2: rabbit outside and I had my back, uh, my face,
Speaker 2: I was facing the house, and my was to the
Speaker 2: railing of the deck, and all of a sudden, my
Speaker 2: dog and all that they're laying there, all of a
Speaker 2: sudden a rock comes and hits the leg of my
Speaker 2: barbecue and making and just and then it just drops there.
Speaker 2: My dog gets up and sniffs it. I have pictures
Speaker 2: of her sniffing it, because I whipped my phone out
Speaker 2: right away now and just take pictures. And and I
Speaker 2: look behind me. There's nothing so and there's nothing that
Speaker 2: it could have hid behind unless it, you know, way
Speaker 2: far away on my garage, you know, if it's behind
Speaker 2: my garage or something. But if it's that huge or
Speaker 2: even even five feet it tall, I would have seen it,
Speaker 2: because it's all it's a big circle driveway in the
Speaker 2: back it's all open, so I would have seen something.
Speaker 2: There's nothing hiding anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they'd have to throw it pretty far.
Speaker 2: Then, yes, yeah. And it didn't hit that hard where
Speaker 2: it was like traveling or anything. Just hit and it
Speaker 2: couldn't hit me. But they don't. It doesn't hit me.
Speaker 2: They never do. It was just to get my attention
Speaker 2: or something. I think.
Speaker 1: I think, So you're having activity happen around the house,
Speaker 1: but at the same time it's paranormal, correct, Yes, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: And I've heard there's a channel called Sasquatch Ontario and
Speaker 1: he's talking about like Marble's kind of falling out of
Speaker 1: the air and things just kind of shown up and disappearing.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of what you're experiencing.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I haven't seen them just appear out of
Speaker 2: thin air. They're not in my hand all of a
Speaker 2: sudden right or anything like that. But the other day
Speaker 2: or the other week, I my rabbit was playing I
Speaker 2: have another rap I have a house rabbit here, big one,
Speaker 2: and he was playing with something, rolling it around on
Speaker 2: the floor and I was like, oh, what is that? Like,
Speaker 2: I don't want him to get, you know, choke on anything,
Speaker 2: or so I go and check and it's a marble.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what, I don't have marbles here
Speaker 2: except for the marbles that have been gifted to me before.
Speaker 2: I have lots of things gifted to me. Rack heart
Speaker 2: shaped rocks, lots of heart shaped rocks. They'll just be
Speaker 2: there on my table or on my stairs, or right
Speaker 2: in my path where we just walked, or I just
Speaker 2: mowed the lawn and now there's now there's a rock
Speaker 2: there after, you know. And to me, they like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you just didn't see it when you cut the grass
Speaker 2: or whatever. It's like, no, I watch because my dog
Speaker 2: has bones and balls and like toys. And that's another thing.
Speaker 2: It was playing something was playing games with me. This
Speaker 2: is before I really accepted it because I didn't know
Speaker 2: they do this. I just left They chase you around
Speaker 2: in the woods or scare you or you know that
Speaker 2: kind of thing, and so I didn't it. I have
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know. These they're really hard
Speaker 2: like hockey balls for street hockey. They're really hard balls.
Speaker 2: And I got to have them from my dogs because
Speaker 2: they floatt. So I have them out ponds and we
Speaker 2: just leave them there and the next time we go
Speaker 2: to there, so I have a green one and an
Speaker 2: orange one, and so one day they weren't there, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, dang, I happened to them? Did
Speaker 2: she carry them back at the house? I didn't see them.
Speaker 2: He looked, And then the next one of the next days,
Speaker 2: after looking, I go to the chicken coop and it
Speaker 2: is squished right down and stuck in this little space
Speaker 2: that I have of the door and the and the
Speaker 2: roof of the chicken coop run. I have pictures of that.
Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, there's her ball, But how did
Speaker 2: it get there? Rock hard? I have them because she's
Speaker 2: a pit bull and she just wrecks everything, you know.
Speaker 2: So these last a long time and they float and
Speaker 2: there's there's no way that anybody squeeze it unless you
Speaker 2: have like you know, like when a machine or something
Speaker 2: or tool. I was, wow, wow, we found it. Another
Speaker 2: time it was missing and it was up in the trees.
Speaker 2: Just happened to notice it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you have a ton of strange experiences.
Speaker 2: Strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about this one here with you have this
Speaker 1: limb that's laid out and you got a bunch of
Speaker 1: other limbs, like I don't know, a formation on top
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whitish ones. Yeah, what is that? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like a structure, like a like a house.
Speaker 2: Or I don't know, you know, hey, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's a lot of the type of stuff
Speaker 1: you find around the property.
Speaker 2: Yes, and sometimes it's gone and there'll be a new
Speaker 2: one it's like near it, or it'll just stay and
Speaker 2: there'll be a new one. It's very exciting to go
Speaker 2: out there and just say wow, wow, wow. I know
Speaker 2: nobody goes back there. This is my property, you know.
Speaker 2: And I do have neighbors, but and I'm friends with
Speaker 2: one of them because I look after her daughter whenever
Speaker 2: they need and most most time during the summer. She's
Speaker 2: here every day because of the animals, and we go
Speaker 2: out walking and stuff.
Speaker 1: She's noticed things, and that the little girl that's standing
Speaker 1: next to this big a frame structure.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, her name starts with A so I thought
Speaker 2: i'd have to do with her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are both and stuck into the ground of the Yes.
Speaker 2: Well, it looked like the one was growing from the
Speaker 2: ground and it was bent right down to hit the
Speaker 2: other end, like to meet the ground, and then the
Speaker 2: other one was it was just a lamb like it
Speaker 2: looked like it was placed on the little notches m
Speaker 2: and it was so crazy. I saw it when I
Speaker 2: went out alone, and then later on Avery came over
Speaker 2: and I said, Avery, you got to come and see this.
Speaker 2: We went out. We found it right away. She stood
Speaker 2: beside it, and it even looks like my friend pointed
Speaker 2: out that on the ground and there looks like there
Speaker 2: could be like footprints, big traps. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't check it out, just a photo.
Speaker 1: So all I have is a is four different photos.
Speaker 1: I think you try to send me a bunch more.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but yeah, feel free to send them to
Speaker 1: me here on Skype.
Speaker 2: Or yeah, i'll tryscover.
Speaker 1: We can do it, and yeah we'll show it. You
Speaker 1: said you had a few videos as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have a cool video of a really cool structure.
Speaker 2: It is so symmetrical, evenly spaced evenly, like the same
Speaker 2: height of trees that they used, the way it's balanced,
Speaker 2: and it's just high like crazy. I was with my friend.
Speaker 2: I cannot believe this because that is wild wold a
Speaker 2: new Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now how open is Sasquatch or sabe in Manitoba? Like
Speaker 1: if you talk about it, do people get kind of
Speaker 1: irritated and mad, and you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah they don't. They think it's like some sort of fancy,
Speaker 2: fancy joke, you know, like it's fa yes, you know that,
Speaker 2: And I haven't seen it, so I don't know myself
Speaker 2: really like I still like, I still wonder because it's
Speaker 2: it's invisible to me. I can't see it.
Speaker 1: Do you want to see one?
Speaker 2: I do now, yeah, because I want I want that
Speaker 2: absolute confirmation because mine are mine are My experiences are
Speaker 2: so like we I got the wood knocking, I got
Speaker 2: hot howling, not who not whoop whoop or anything like that.
Speaker 2: But I just one time, though, and it seems like
Speaker 2: that's what happens. It's not like it's not always consistent.
Speaker 2: I don't keep getting whistles or keep getting howls. It's
Speaker 2: just one time I smelt stench and that's why I
Speaker 2: traveled off of my property into unknown territory and I
Speaker 2: found like a secret pond and it was so rough
Speaker 2: to raise and I got such creepy, creepy vibes. But
Speaker 2: I kept going, thinking it's just my I'm just playing
Speaker 2: tricks on myself, you know, And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I smelled this horrible stench. It's almost like a bear bait,
Speaker 2: you know, when they did bake bears and I put
Speaker 2: all that rotten stuff and barrels and stuff, and it
Speaker 2: just reads well. I thought, oh, maybe I came up
Speaker 2: on one of these. And then I was debating, do
Speaker 2: I turn around? But I see an opening just not
Speaker 2: very far. I wanted to go see what's over there.
Speaker 2: And I was really iffy, but my I was watching
Speaker 2: my dogs and if they're on alert, then I usually
Speaker 2: just pay attention to them. And I listened to them,
Speaker 2: but they were like walking slowly because it's new to
Speaker 2: them too. They weren't super crazy. So I went and
Speaker 2: I found that secret pond and it's sad. It was nice.
Speaker 2: It was deeper than mine, and I was like, oh cool, cool,
Speaker 2: And the smell was not by the pond. It was
Speaker 2: just in one area. So I did think, okay, so
Speaker 2: there's but it's still close to the pond and I
Speaker 2: didn't smell it anymore, and it was so strong, and
Speaker 2: then all the way back I smelt it again and
Speaker 2: I said, and it really it felt like it was
Speaker 2: actually even closer to you know, And I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know this is just I just didn't feel good.
Speaker 2: I didn't know about sasquatch having a smell. I didn't
Speaker 2: know about his noises. I just you know, I smelled that,
Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, something's not good. Let's get
Speaker 2: out of here. Like something was killed. Maybe there's going
Speaker 2: to be a bear here. We do have bear. We
Speaker 2: have my mountain Lion was caught on a lot of
Speaker 2: people's security cameras just recently too, box wolves, coyotes, all that,
Speaker 2: so and I've seen them all and so I know
Speaker 2: all they're around, and I've seen the scat and the prince.
Speaker 2: So I thought, okay, something's going to come for this,
Speaker 2: so let's just go back. I don't even know really
Speaker 2: where we are, and it's quite far from my house
Speaker 2: for walking, and it was lots of dead fall and
Speaker 2: stuff to climb over and swampy, little mucky areas because
Speaker 2: it's not used. So that was the one time I
Speaker 2: smelt something this summer. Something howled like I've never heard before.
Speaker 2: It was like a mixture of a howl and a
Speaker 2: roar with a little bit of an owl in it.
Speaker 2: And it was far but loud. It felt like it
Speaker 2: sounded like I was far away, but was clear, like
Speaker 2: it was loud and my dog's whoa. They perked up
Speaker 2: and they started sniffing the air in the direction I
Speaker 2: heard it, and I was like, oh, they heard it too,
Speaker 2: and I said, what's that? What's that? And they start
Speaker 2: running a hit but they just kept on going back
Speaker 2: the way we came. So I just followed them and
Speaker 2: that kind of went last. But I didn't feel threatened.
Speaker 2: It was just because it's new and I really don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know about sasquatch, but I don't feel threatened.
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have they ever slept your house?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, yeah, they do it. They did it last night.
Speaker 2: Now there, I was. Now I have a habit. When
Speaker 2: I'm going to bed, I pray to God and then
Speaker 2: I and then when I'm done. I talked to Sabbe
Speaker 2: and I told it. I said to Sabbe, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing an interview and talking about
Speaker 2: you tomorrow. I hope that you're okay with that. I
Speaker 2: said that you should be, because no one's going to
Speaker 2: know anything other than they don't know already. And and
Speaker 2: I said, but just let me know somehow if you want.
Speaker 2: And then right after that tap tap on my bedroom window.
Speaker 2: And that's what's been happening mostly lately. And before that
Speaker 2: it was a bang on the wall. It depends on
Speaker 2: what room I'm in, Like right here I'm in. This
Speaker 2: is where we watch TV and smoke our joints and stuff,
Speaker 2: and and bang bang on the on the wall.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I like they're kind of acknowledging the fact
Speaker 1: that they know what you're thinking.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, m hm, I think so.
Speaker 1: I really That's my thing is I've tried the mind
Speaker 1: to speak, but I haven't really had much happen there.
Speaker 1: Either I'm not developed in that area or maybe I
Speaker 1: just can't do it. But I have experience where you know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about them, and you know, they knock back,
Speaker 1: or I'm talking about them and they push over a tree.
Speaker 1: It's almost as if they let me know that they
Speaker 1: know what I'm thinking or that I'm talking about them,
Speaker 1: which is strange. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think because you are thinking about them, you're
Speaker 2: you're focused on that, And that's part of meditating, not
Speaker 2: that I do it like I don't. I dabbled in
Speaker 2: it years ago and stuff like that, but I just
Speaker 2: look after all my animals I love nature, and that
Speaker 2: is my day and my night. I look after my
Speaker 2: rabbits and my chickens. I have like a bunch of chickens,
Speaker 2: and and that's another thing. They've gone missing, my chickens,
Speaker 2: and some people are blaming Sabae, and I really don't think.
Speaker 2: I think there's different kinds of Savey out here. Actually
Speaker 2: I think there is one that's not so nice, and
Speaker 2: I think there's one that helps me deal with that one,
Speaker 2: because I've had chickens gone missing all summer, just gone,
Speaker 2: and like I miss them, like they're my pets, and
Speaker 2: I know they're going to die, and I know things
Speaker 2: can happen to them, but it brings tears to my eyes.
Speaker 2: And I just knew if something was really weird with
Speaker 2: this one. I just knew something was going to happened
Speaker 2: to Becky. Don't ask me, I just had a feeling.
Speaker 2: And then one day she's not here. I'm like, where's Becky,
Speaker 2: where's Becky? And she comes when I call her, Becky,
Speaker 2: come on, chicky Chiki treats, and she's always coming and
Speaker 2: they all come and no Becky, No Becky. I go
Speaker 2: searching for her. No Becky, And that one really tore
Speaker 2: me up, and then after Becky, I've had a couple
Speaker 2: more go. But this winter something is looking after my chickens.
Speaker 2: Because the coop is all locked up. I go out
Speaker 2: there to go and lock it up. Say good night.
Speaker 2: I always, you know, talk to them, say good night pet,
Speaker 2: the ones that are the most friendliest and all that.
Speaker 2: And there's been three times where I go out and
Speaker 2: it's all locked up, and I latch it and everything
Speaker 2: like there's latches because raccoon can unlatch stuff. So I
Speaker 2: have like a string that you have to pull in
Speaker 2: order to get this thing up in order to pull
Speaker 2: this out blah blah blah blah blah. And the doors
Speaker 2: you have to pull up so they slide up. It's
Speaker 2: like tricky. So you have to do certain things to
Speaker 2: latch it up. At night too, all locked up, and
Speaker 2: I'll ask my husband, did you look up, like walk
Speaker 2: up the coop, and he'll no, Now he would tell
Speaker 2: me he's not playing games. He's mister sterious. He doesn't
Speaker 2: even believe in this stuff. Well kind of believes me,
Speaker 2: but he hasn't really experienced anything. It's usually when I'm
Speaker 2: alone or with somebody, it'll still happen if someone comes
Speaker 2: out for a walk outside in the trees, they've smelt things.
Speaker 2: There's one area of a trail where we kind of
Speaker 2: get lightheaded and disoriented, and now I can fight that
Speaker 2: feeling off. I just think it's just me sometimes I
Speaker 2: get disoriented and I don't know. I just watched my
Speaker 2: dogs and follow them. But it happened to my friend
Speaker 2: a couple of times where she's like, Okay, I just
Speaker 2: got to stop I feel and we'll take note of
Speaker 2: where that happened, and now it happens there to do.
Speaker 2: So there's something there. That's what I mean about a
Speaker 2: thin veil. Maybe that's how they can disappear. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder myself as well. So to me, it
Speaker 1: seems like you're going to see one in the future
Speaker 1: just because of how much activity you're having around the property. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope, yeah, and hopefully it's a it's a positive one.
Speaker 1: Just kind of like how my encounters happened. Either they
Speaker 1: went their own way or they're kind of like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 1: you know, I got caught.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I do hear, you know, some negative reports or hear
Speaker 1: negative things about certain areas, but I think that has
Speaker 1: to do with the group and the area that you're in.
Speaker 1: And what I find is like a lot of the
Speaker 1: Sasquatch here in Missouri, they're pretty friendly for the most part.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, they're tricksters and they like to to
Speaker 1: ask certain people because who knows, that's their entertainment. But
Speaker 1: for the most part, they want to go their own
Speaker 1: way and they're they're pretty nice.
Speaker 2: That's yeah. I've heard. Now, I've heard a lot, Like
Speaker 2: I've looked in a lot of videos and different things
Speaker 2: like that and Facebook pages and stuff, and I think
Speaker 2: it has to it all depends on who you are
Speaker 2: and the people you're with and stuff like that. The energy,
Speaker 2: that's why I think that. I think it's the energy.
Speaker 2: I have a story of of a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: The reason I have my security cameras at my house
Speaker 2: is because we have the like a we had a
Speaker 2: young guy stayed with us for a while. He was
Speaker 2: kind of like he called me mom. He was younger
Speaker 2: than my youngest son, and he lived with us for
Speaker 2: a while and he was great, like great, intelligent, very
Speaker 2: respectful guy. And anyway, we had a weird thing what
Speaker 2: happened and a falling out and we told him to leave.
Speaker 2: He got his own place and everything, and I didn't
Speaker 2: want to have anything to do with him. Once you
Speaker 2: break my trust, I'm really leary about accepting you back
Speaker 2: into my life. So after a long time, he still
Speaker 2: was missing us and everything, and so I thought, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll give him another go and we'll see. And he
Speaker 2: really apologized, and I felt it was sincere and everything.
Speaker 2: And I had him over and my husband was away,
Speaker 2: and he came over and we went for a walk
Speaker 2: to the pond and when I got back, I have
Speaker 2: I have a tree that I was letting grow here
Speaker 2: beside my deck on the west side, and it was
Speaker 2: ripped apart. It was I have pictures of it. The
Speaker 2: trunk was twisted and ripped and thrown into my yard.
Speaker 2: And I know we didn't have a mini tornado. And
Speaker 2: I had I was washing out these rubber maid containers
Speaker 2: that I had from baby chicks and stuff. I had
Speaker 2: those hosed out and drawing setting there sitting there. They
Speaker 2: weren't even they didn't budge, so I know wind didn't
Speaker 2: come and blow this rip this tree off. And I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my tree, it was getting so big,
Speaker 2: so fat, it was growing really nice and fast, and
Speaker 2: I was trimming it to make it full beside my
Speaker 2: deck and it would block out that area and I
Speaker 2: was just like, and it was just and I right away,
Speaker 2: I just I don't know how I knew, but I
Speaker 2: I could even be wrong, but I just feel it
Speaker 2: that it does not want that guy around here, doesn't
Speaker 2: want him around, doesn't trust him. So I'm taking that
Speaker 2: as if my dog doesn't like him, then I really
Speaker 2: shouldn't have him here anymore. So he hasn't been here
Speaker 2: since maybe a couple of times he's come here, and
Speaker 2: I don't know if anything's happened, but usually he's dealing
Speaker 2: with my husband in the garage or whatever. So I
Speaker 2: really don't have anything to do with him anymore. And
Speaker 2: it was weird and in our life since he was
Speaker 2: like thirteen, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I took one of my friends out too, or a
Speaker 1: guy that I used to hang out with to the
Speaker 1: area that I was having activity at. He didn't really
Speaker 1: believe me, you know, he was just being cool and
Speaker 1: out there just talking about whatever, and you know me,
Speaker 1: I just had my experiences. So I'm bringing up Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: and he's just kind of dodging the conversation and just
Speaker 1: having a good time. Well, we're out there and right
Speaker 1: when it gets dark, it sounds like someone threw a
Speaker 1: log up in the air and it landed on the
Speaker 1: ground like that thump sound. Oh yeah, his eyes got
Speaker 1: big and I was like, do you hear that? Do
Speaker 1: you do that? And he's telling me, you know, he's serious.
Speaker 1: His eyes are huge, and you know, that's typically what
Speaker 1: I get with people that that don't believe me. And
Speaker 1: I take him out there and it's really difficult. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think he didn't like him.
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, you get that feeling. Hey. Yeah. What
Speaker 2: I want to know is if I can start really
Speaker 2: talking to these these beings or I don't know what
Speaker 2: they are, but I really want to know. I want
Speaker 2: to ask them, like, what does that a mean? What
Speaker 2: does that thing that looks like cheape? Like there's so
Speaker 2: many now out there? What is it? Is it you
Speaker 2: that's moving my stuff around that I don't see? You know,
Speaker 2: I don't see you. I want to I want to
Speaker 2: ask them all these questions. But there is something about
Speaker 2: them that is different than just a wild animal instincts,
Speaker 2: which I think they also have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it goes beyond Masters of the Woods.
Speaker 1: There are more masters of the universe, not necessarily creators
Speaker 1: or anything that high up, but they have definitely mastered
Speaker 1: the earth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's something special about them. They're not
Speaker 2: just an eight type of being that is good at
Speaker 2: hiding all of these decades for centuries. You know, there's.
Speaker 1: Well, there has to be a higher intelligence.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm. Now sometimes I think, because I have
Speaker 2: been seeing them and these things are happening, maybe it isn't.
Speaker 2: But that's doing this at my house, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Well I wonder that just because like on the Skinwalker ranch,
Speaker 1: you know, they claim to have all kinds of activity happening,
Speaker 1: whether it was paranormal activity on the house, the dire
Speaker 1: wolf being seen, sasquatch like beings, UFOs orbs. But is
Speaker 1: all this coming through some type of stargate wormhole? You know?
Speaker 1: You know, things are just coming in and out of
Speaker 1: our reality, and maybe they're not associated with each other,
Speaker 1: but still using both different like the different planes of
Speaker 1: existence that we have, whether it's two or eight different ones.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And I say that just because with the cows that
Speaker 1: they had on that farm, they were all in a
Speaker 1: little cattle or in a little corral deal. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: later on they were inside that train and there's no
Speaker 1: way they could fit inside the door. They're all lined
Speaker 1: up in there. So somehow whatever intelligence intelligence is there
Speaker 1: can manipulate our time and space and the matter around us, right.
Speaker 2: Which reminds me of a couple of things that's happened
Speaker 2: here in that kind of respect, kind of where the
Speaker 2: first time I woke up in the middle of the
Speaker 2: night for some reason and now I forget how this
Speaker 2: one went up transpired. Oh yeah, I woke up for
Speaker 2: some reason, and I got up and I realized that
Speaker 2: my little dog is outside. And that is weird because
Speaker 2: you know, these little dogs when it's cold outside, they
Speaker 2: really you know, sometimes they'll just pee in the house
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. That makes me mad. But so
Speaker 2: there's they'd rather not go out. But I know for
Speaker 2: a fact, when I'm going to bed, I know where
Speaker 2: all my animals are. This rabbit is lock separate, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah blah. I got them. They're
Speaker 2: all on my bed. You know, they sleep with me
Speaker 2: and my husband, So I know they're all there. And
Speaker 2: this little one she was outside. It was four o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning. I was like, how did she get out?
Speaker 2: How did she get out? Like that was just like
Speaker 2: and it's cold out, but it wasn't that cold. This
Speaker 2: was like a couple month ago or so, and or
Speaker 2: maybe longer it wasn't as cold, and I was freaked out.
Speaker 2: Now I don't lock my doors. I guess should get
Speaker 2: into the habit of that, which I while I recently
Speaker 2: started to try to remember. So it was I don't know.
Speaker 2: So I thought maybe my husband was like sleepwalking. Sometimes
Speaker 2: we'll sleep eat and stuff, you know, Like I could
Speaker 2: see evidence of stuff on the counters they know, all
Speaker 2: like peanut butter and crackers and stuff. So or the
Speaker 2: peanut butter is in the fridge and so, but not
Speaker 2: that day. There is nothing out So abroad sheit everything
Speaker 2: was okay, broadery in I looked at my cameras and
Speaker 2: they glitched out. There's it's just says error and it's blank.
Speaker 2: It's normal, then glitch and then normal and okay, that's weird.
Speaker 2: And then it just happened with my poor rabbit again.
Speaker 2: It happened and right from my house. I know, he
Speaker 2: was in my room. He has a favorite spot. When
Speaker 2: we go to bed. He sleeps in front of my
Speaker 2: mirror because the heat comes out from underneath the dresser,
Speaker 2: and I think he likes to look at himself. But
Speaker 2: he was there. And I get down and I kiss
Speaker 2: the spade, you know, Robi's little hood. I say good night,
Speaker 2: and then I like like that all the time. I
Speaker 2: know he was there. And then when my when my
Speaker 2: husband's alarm went off, he didn't come running out to me,
Speaker 2: over to me, and I was like, what, lovey, lovey,
Speaker 2: where are you? And I'm calling him. He's not he's
Speaker 2: not coming. My husband goes out to start his car
Speaker 2: and I see rabbit poop on my deck and I, ah,
Speaker 2: he's outside. Oh my god. I ran outside in my
Speaker 2: house coat. It's like minus forty one or minus forty seven,
Speaker 2: something ridiculous that night, and I was just freaking out,
Speaker 2: freaking out. I couldn't find him. I followed his little
Speaker 2: prince and he's under my deck and I have to
Speaker 2: climb under there. I didn't even think. I just was
Speaker 2: wiggling and because of all the snow, I had to
Speaker 2: dig and I grabbed and I brought him in and
Speaker 2: his poor ears are frozen. So he's just recovering from that.
Speaker 2: Nothing all my cameras once again glitch.
Speaker 1: So yeah, how is it strange?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So how is Savvy doing that? If it's him
Speaker 2: or her, why would he do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I wondered the same myself, and I continue
Speaker 1: going out in the forest to try to see if
Speaker 1: I can figure it out or just have more experiences
Speaker 1: to try to put all the pieces together. But there's
Speaker 1: so many things that they do and they never do
Speaker 1: it again that it's hard to get any answers or
Speaker 1: something consistent with them.
Speaker 2: Right, right, that's it. That's what I find. It's always different.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I question that too. Is it Bigfoot? Or
Speaker 1: is it a collection of different paranormal things? And in
Speaker 1: one place?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I always But then I hear someone's
Speaker 2: interview and I'm like, what happened to them? And they're
Speaker 2: saying it's big but they saw a big but you know,
Speaker 2: or whatever. So I know, I really it is a
Speaker 2: spiritual being, and I believe it can take flesh and
Speaker 2: blood form because people have seen it with their eyes.
Speaker 2: But I also think that they can also be well
Speaker 2: I don't know how could they be both? Maybe they can.
Speaker 1: Well That's the thing about quantum physics is two things
Speaker 1: that are completely separate are actually the same. Just you know,
Speaker 1: like good and evil, hot and cold, God, God in
Speaker 1: the devil, They're actually to say two in.
Speaker 2: The same Yeah, there you go. So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a mystery. And I'm just hoping that one of
Speaker 1: these days will have an answer for all this. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if it's going to happen, but
Speaker 1: a little by little we keep getting more, whether it's
Speaker 1: video footage or a collection of stories that seem to
Speaker 1: all line up. And I think we're we're on a
Speaker 1: good path.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe so. I believe so. And now with
Speaker 2: the gifting started doing that once I people were like
Speaker 2: encouraging me, like go go give them this, give them that,
Speaker 2: and I did, and things are taken. I it's just
Speaker 2: and that boggles my mind. It just boggles my mind.
Speaker 2: They love candy. They don't like grapes. Over here, I
Speaker 2: gave them a little zip blockee of grapes. They left it,
Speaker 2: left it, left it, and then one day it was gone,
Speaker 2: but I found it, tossed it, tossed out into the trees.
Speaker 1: Why do you think they don't like the grapes, Is
Speaker 1: it too like the cidic or I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I really don't know. They just when when that woman
Speaker 2: was it Wendy that said about the grapes, she I
Speaker 2: was like, what miney either. They won't take grapes, but
Speaker 2: they love candy and they love peanut butter, they love toys.
Speaker 2: I think mine one of them around here, the one
Speaker 2: that's playing games like taking things and returning them things
Speaker 2: like that. Uh is young. But so how do you know?
Speaker 2: Because I just I don't know. I'm just going by
Speaker 2: what other people say.
Speaker 1: So what you heard Wendy say from North Carolina with
Speaker 1: her story, does a lot of that line up with
Speaker 1: what you got going on in Manitoba.
Speaker 2: Yes, it feels like almost the same thing where just
Speaker 2: slowly gradually realize and all and then just and just
Speaker 2: putting it all together and then try to interact with
Speaker 2: them and try to see what they are and who
Speaker 2: they are and what's going on and what are they doing?
Speaker 2: You know, I think they come and go, and like
Speaker 2: she said, a lot of times I thinking oh they're gone.
Speaker 2: Now they're gone. Now it's winter here, it's freezing, and
Speaker 2: then boom, something will happen, like they'll bang on my house.
Speaker 2: They'll crawl up the side, over onto the roof and
Speaker 2: then back down again.
Speaker 1: And hear them going over the house.
Speaker 2: Absolutely you can. You can hear them like, scurry up
Speaker 2: and when I say scurry, it's not like something small,
Speaker 2: it's like and then boom boom, like they got up
Speaker 2: on top and then boom boom boom, and you can
Speaker 2: feel it, and the dogs hear it. They react and
Speaker 2: I look, I look out the window, I look out
Speaker 2: the patio, quickly turn on my cameras on a big
Speaker 2: screen TV. Nothing's there snowfootprints and it's snow here, so
Speaker 2: you would see them. But there's also lots of like
Speaker 2: dog prints and my dogs running around. But yeah, there's
Speaker 2: usually never any prints, so that that part really is like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: I heard with my ears. I felt the dogs heard
Speaker 2: and reacted it. I could hear. I can almost envision
Speaker 2: how it looked because of the way it sounded. But
Speaker 2: then there's nothing. Why is there nothing to see? How
Speaker 2: would you do that?
Speaker 1: That would terrify me?
Speaker 2: I was home alone, and I was pretty scared of
Speaker 2: that that one time, because it was so long. It
Speaker 2: wasn't just like bang bang bang on my on my
Speaker 2: like knock knock, knock. It was more like I'm climbing
Speaker 2: up here and I'm going across the roof and I'm
Speaker 2: climbing down.
Speaker 1: Yeah there's nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing on the cameras, and it's just like.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's the little ones doing that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean it breaks, they'd fall through the roof, yeah.
Speaker 2: Or even damage. But yeah, I think that's another reason why,
Speaker 2: like my friends and are saying that it's a juvenile,
Speaker 2: it's a juvenile. And I was like, well, how do
Speaker 2: we even know? I think there's different kinds out there too.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, like they look different like yours
Speaker 2: had some white stripe or white areas, right, Yeah, some
Speaker 2: people's are like cinnamon colors, some are like long hair,
Speaker 2: some are like short hair. So I'm sure there's different
Speaker 2: kinds around here too, And I don't know, maybe they're
Speaker 2: not huge out here, or maybe it's a big one
Speaker 2: or the biggest one is my height. Who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you find yourself engaging in nature and wildlife
Speaker 1: more than the surrounding neighbors in the area? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so maybe they chose you because they trust you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be it too. I've always been going
Speaker 2: out for years and years and years and years. We
Speaker 2: bring home, like landscaping stuff from what we find. We
Speaker 2: find big nice rocks and we built our fire pit
Speaker 2: these nice, huge rocks. I lined my gardens with these rocks.
Speaker 2: So we go out with purpose to get rocks. We
Speaker 2: go out to stalk our pond with some catfish, m
Speaker 2: things like that, and we go up just to go
Speaker 2: and go out. We go out shooting target practicing and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Ooh, and that reminds me of another story.
Speaker 2: I found it like a dog head. It looked like
Speaker 2: like a bulldog kind of head, just the head out there.
Speaker 2: Whoa that was out there? Where we go and get
Speaker 2: I don't know. Some people say they don't like dogs,
Speaker 2: but they've never done anything to mine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you ever seen any orbs on the property?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Can you describe what they look like and what they
Speaker 1: are doing?
Speaker 2: Some are in videos and pictures that I just notice
Speaker 2: after I take the picture, after I look at it,
Speaker 2: and they'll be in the trees, just a random white
Speaker 2: type of light. Sometimes they're red and they'll just be
Speaker 2: in the picture. And like if I take a few pictures,
Speaker 2: it'll move, it'll be here then there, and you know
Speaker 2: it's not a reflection. It's different than a like a
Speaker 2: flare or a reflection. I have that too, when you
Speaker 2: take pictures of the sun and things like that, and
Speaker 2: then net orbs. Just you know, this is crazy because
Speaker 2: just the other day my friend is all into she
Speaker 2: comes over a lot now. She brings these voice recorders
Speaker 2: and things like that, and we've never picked up really anything.
Speaker 2: But I had my screen on in here, watching my
Speaker 2: camera and we were all in that living room over there,
Speaker 2: and we saw something flash, or she saw something flash.
Speaker 2: It goes, what's going on in your And I said, oh,
Speaker 2: I have my TV on. I was watching the security
Speaker 2: cameras before you came. And she said, oh, let's go see.
Speaker 2: So we came in here and it was just on
Speaker 2: the one camera, like I can put them all on
Speaker 2: or just pick one to watch, and it was so
Speaker 2: it's just on that one that faces out back, and
Speaker 2: there were she said, look, there's an orb and there was.
Speaker 2: There was just this one coming and flying by and
Speaker 2: it would come back and it's it's middle of winter.
Speaker 2: It's like minus body, there's no bugs, so and it
Speaker 2: was flying. It was totally flying. It would come in,
Speaker 2: come to the camera and the back and do a
Speaker 2: loop de loop and then we were just freaking out.
Speaker 2: And then more and more, the more excited we got,
Speaker 2: more would come. It would be amazing. Then they would
Speaker 2: kind of slow down, and my friend said, go to
Speaker 2: the window, Vernise and see what happens. Because I got
Speaker 2: this big patio window on this side and then my
Speaker 2: TV over here, and we had the curtains close, so
Speaker 2: I went behind the curtains so nothing would reflect onto
Speaker 2: the glass. And I can't see. It's pitch black, but
Speaker 2: my cameras can because they have the night vision on them.
Speaker 2: And I stood by the door with the curtain all
Speaker 2: around me, so it's all dark, and I said, hi,
Speaker 2: and I can't see anything. And then I hear my
Speaker 2: friends going, Oh, they're coming beneath and they'd just be swarming,
Speaker 2: she said. So I peeked out and I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: All of these different colors, and it wasn't like snow
Speaker 2: was blowing, because if you look at all the other cameras,
Speaker 2: there's no snow blowing on those. Just this one camera
Speaker 2: where we are in this room. All of these colorful
Speaker 2: orbs are just flying and doing loopy loops and getting
Speaker 2: big and brightening up and then flying back. It was
Speaker 2: crazy that one night, for a couple of hours we
Speaker 2: were looking out. We were like, this is amazing, this
Speaker 2: is amazing. So we had that kind of orbs. But
Speaker 2: I did with my naked eye before in the in
Speaker 2: the on the property I lived before, which isn't that
Speaker 2: far from here. It's about a half an hour more
Speaker 2: north from here. I was outside having a smoke on
Speaker 2: the back deck. Everybody was in the house watching TV.
Speaker 2: This My kid still lived at home, and I was
Speaker 2: this orange orb a glowing light was solid. It was
Speaker 2: a fall of light. It came. I was raised up
Speaker 2: on the deck and so my car roots were kind
Speaker 2: of at my waist level. This fall came right even
Speaker 2: with the with the railing. Whoa, and then it did
Speaker 2: this dip and then it leveled out again and kept
Speaker 2: on going. And I went, oh, my gosh, wow, and
Speaker 2: I ran into the house. I said, come out here,
Speaker 2: you guys, because you could still see it. It was go
Speaker 2: traveling towards slowly traveling towards the trees, and I was wow, wowow.
Speaker 2: I ran in and they were like, oh, well, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: they just watching TV. And I was just like, oh oh,
Speaker 2: it's so frustrated. So I went back outside because I
Speaker 2: just chucked my cigarette down, so I went to go
Speaker 2: get it, and I was like, oh, it's going I'm
Speaker 2: looking around and then I looked. Something catches my eye
Speaker 2: and it I don't know if it's the same one
Speaker 2: or not, but there it is. It's the size of
Speaker 2: a baseball and it's just floating around above the house.
Speaker 2: And then it goes right above my head and I
Speaker 2: was just oh, my god. And then it just flew
Speaker 2: away and it was totally you could totally tell it
Speaker 2: was alive, Like nobody could tell me it wasn't. It
Speaker 2: was totally alive. It knew what it was doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the orbs appear to have some type of
Speaker 1: intelligence behind it. Yeah, they're always a step ahead of people.
Speaker 2: It's just there. I don't and that's the only time
Speaker 2: I've ever seen one with my naked eye. But other
Speaker 2: than that, I've seen them on my videos and my
Speaker 2: photo Listen, there was a lot of that out there
Speaker 2: in Cooks Creek where I used to live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned being visited by aliens at some point
Speaker 1: in your life. Can you describe that? And do you
Speaker 1: feel like that's connected to the Sasquatch or the sabe.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's connected, but it is definitely along
Speaker 2: the same lines as their beings. They are live and
Speaker 2: they know how to disappear and morph, just like savee
Speaker 2: as more if I don't know if I'm using that
Speaker 2: right and more in saves Save's mind, but they there's
Speaker 2: a lot of similarities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And do you feel like maybe that's the big
Speaker 1: secret with the government is not necessarily what UFOs are,
Speaker 1: aliens are bigfoot, is more their means of traveling. Do
Speaker 1: you think that's what they're hiding?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other I think so too, the worlds that
Speaker 2: they exist in as well. Yeah, you don't want us
Speaker 2: to know that something something about that travel and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree. Now the aliens I've seen, Uh, that was
Speaker 2: years ago. That was probably right twenty sixteen or so
Speaker 2: or was it an the other It was in the
Speaker 2: other property, so before I moved here, so maybe twenty
Speaker 2: fifteen or fourteen. And I I remember this so clear,
Speaker 2: it blew my mind and I didn't Sometimes it's hard
Speaker 2: for me to even just tell people because you don't
Speaker 2: hear about this. But I was awakened by a flash
Speaker 2: of light. And it was like three something in the morning,
Speaker 2: and I woke up realized a flash of light woke
Speaker 2: me up. But it's not it's dark. And I got
Speaker 2: out of bed and I immediately looked out my window
Speaker 2: and it's pitch black. And I went out into the
Speaker 2: hall to go to the bathroom, and then I went
Speaker 2: proceeded to go to the back door. I grabbed a
Speaker 2: smoke and a thing lighter, and I went out stepped
Speaker 2: out onto my back deck. Just as I was going
Speaker 2: to light my cigarette. We don't have a big yard
Speaker 2: light or anything like some farms do. We don't have that.
Speaker 2: So it was black. It was dark, and I totally
Speaker 2: forgot about the flash of light everything. I didn't think
Speaker 2: of anything, Why I'm away, what's going on? Nothing like that.
Speaker 2: So I just stepped outside, and just as I was
Speaker 2: going to light my cigarette, something catches my vision. So
Speaker 2: I look to my last of the deck. On the
Speaker 2: ground are these three gray type alien beings. And I
Speaker 2: went out loud, and they heard me, and they looked
Speaker 2: at me, and they stared at me, and I was
Speaker 2: just staring at them, and there was three of them.
Speaker 2: One was bent down doing something on the ground or
Speaker 2: to the ground doing something. I can see all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I can see. I don't remember them being illuminated,
Speaker 2: but I can see them. It's supposed to be pitch
Speaker 2: black outside. And I don't remember being puzzled. Oh, I
Speaker 2: can see, but I can I can see them. One
Speaker 2: was bent down and two were behind, standing up like
Speaker 2: kind of like a triangle formation. One in the front
Speaker 2: was bent down, and when I gasped, the one stood
Speaker 2: up all slow, and they just stared at me. And
Speaker 2: I was just staring at them. And I don't remember
Speaker 2: their face, but I remember staring at their faces. And
Speaker 2: then right before my eyes they start changing into deer
Speaker 2: from the ground up. They changed into deer from their
Speaker 2: legs up, and then still staring at me, they shuffled
Speaker 2: away like they were stuck together. All three of the deer.
Speaker 2: Deer were like a cartoon. They were walking stuck together
Speaker 2: like this, shuffling just their feet and they stayed like
Speaker 2: that until they were into the darkness, and I couldn't
Speaker 2: see them anymore.
Speaker 1: Now, are you in a dream like state? Are you
Speaker 1: awake seeing this?
Speaker 2: I checked? I was like this, holding my face with
Speaker 2: my cigarette and my lighter, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can't believe this. I can't believe it. I'm awake,
Speaker 2: I get I'm you know. I I did that and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my cigarette, oh my lighter, oh my.
Speaker 2: And I just went into the house and went to bed,
Speaker 2: went fell asleep. After that, I saw some video about
Speaker 2: this family with Dowls or whatever or that town or
Speaker 2: something like that. I forget a movie or something, and
Speaker 2: I was just like, yeah, kind of like that, but not.
Speaker 2: I actually saw them changed and they tried to make
Speaker 2: me think that's what I'm looking at is deer, but
Speaker 2: I know deer don't do that. They don't walk like that.
Speaker 2: They don't do that, Like if you startle them, their
Speaker 2: tails are up and they're gone. They're not gonna be
Speaker 2: like just staring at me, not budging, just their feet.
Speaker 2: And it was the creepiest thing. It was totally like
Speaker 2: a cartoon where they would shuffle their walk on their
Speaker 2: tiptoes kind of thing away trying to sneak and it
Speaker 2: was just the weirdest, weirdest, weirdest thing. And I remembered
Speaker 2: as soon as I woke up, I was I was
Speaker 2: like oh, I remember, and then I remembered the flash
Speaker 2: of light, and I was like, oh, we had the
Speaker 2: flash of light. That that has to do with them,
Speaker 2: I know it does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a similar experience, and I was sleeping and
Speaker 1: I got awaken around the same time, three in the morning.
Speaker 1: I couldn't move. I was on my bed and I
Speaker 1: tried to break free, but I couldn't. Then I noticed
Speaker 1: to my right. I could move my eyeballs, and I
Speaker 1: can move my lungs, you know, I could breathe and
Speaker 1: I could see, but everything else was locked up. And
Speaker 1: I looked to my right and I saw gray alien
Speaker 1: standing there and there's nothing I could do. I try
Speaker 1: to break free and I just couldn't move. And I
Speaker 1: noticed that the fan was in slow motion, just like
Speaker 1: sh oh.
Speaker 2: I remember you said this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And finally like I was able to break free
Speaker 1: and it was gone. But I know that I was
Speaker 1: awake because I could, you know, I could think you clearly,
Speaker 1: I could hear things, and I was trying to break free,
Speaker 1: but I just couldn't. I was just paralyzed.
Speaker 2: It's not like your numb right you just move, but
Speaker 2: you can still feel that you're bid and you've got
Speaker 2: your blankets right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And if it was sleep paralysis, why does it
Speaker 1: look exactly like the being that everybody's describing, you know,
Speaker 1: the grays stuff like that. No, that stuff doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense right.
Speaker 2: And I think your slow motion fan has something to
Speaker 2: do with it. I think that's a key there with
Speaker 2: time or something.
Speaker 1: I think so too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was I, well, I don't want to call
Speaker 2: it sleep paralysis because I didn't wake up and get
Speaker 2: and I was not able to move. One time. This
Speaker 2: is when my I only had two children, one was
Speaker 2: still a baby. My husband at the time was a
Speaker 2: firefighter and he was working nights. We lived in the
Speaker 2: city and he was working overnight, so I was home
Speaker 2: alone with my little daughter. She had her room, and
Speaker 2: my little baby. He was in the bed with me,
Speaker 2: and same thing. Something woke me up. Oh, a light
Speaker 2: woke me up. And right away up for some reason,
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, this bright light in the room. That's
Speaker 2: my husband with the fire truck outside. He's shining a
Speaker 2: big light in my room. We're on the second story.
Speaker 2: And then as soon as I thought that, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous, and I went, oh, yeah, my baby Vam.
Speaker 2: His name is Vam. So I said, oh, my baby,
Speaker 2: and I went to go. I got up, sat up
Speaker 2: and went to go turn. I saw the clock. It
Speaker 2: was three something, and I saw my baby. I'm not
Speaker 2: Then I got zapped and I was paralyzed, and I
Speaker 2: turned like this. I had a feeling somebody was in there,
Speaker 2: something was in the room, but I didn't even happen.
Speaker 2: I was so fast that I didn't even get to
Speaker 2: think about it that much. And then I got zapped.
Speaker 2: Something at the end of my bed did something and
Speaker 2: zapped me, and it felt like it went through my
Speaker 2: whole body, like a vibration. I don't remember it hurting,
Speaker 2: but I do. I did say out loud, oh okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: I knew what they wanted. They wanted me to lie
Speaker 2: down and just stay there, so I did, and I
Speaker 2: was paralyzed. I couldn't move, just my eyes and I'm
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, what the hell is going on here?
Speaker 2: And I've tried to move and I couldn't. And then
Speaker 2: I didn't get freaked that I couldn't move. It's almost
Speaker 2: like I already knew that, like I knew I've been
Speaker 2: through that before. But I don't remember it, just it
Speaker 2: was so it was familiar. I knew what they wanted,
Speaker 2: and I instantly got mad, like a mama bear. No
Speaker 2: I want my baby, my baby, I said out loud.
Speaker 2: In my head, I said okay, okay, out loud, and
Speaker 2: then in my head I was it took. It was
Speaker 2: within two minutes of me laying there paralyzed and me
Speaker 2: getting so mad, and I got up and apprehensively went
Speaker 2: to go turn to my baby, and I can tell oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I can move now good. I looked at the clock
Speaker 2: and almost like forty five minutes was gone, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh what, No way did I lay there
Speaker 2: that long? No way was I paralyzed laying there thinking
Speaker 2: all those thoughts for that long? No way. It was
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes tops, And when I got my baby,
Speaker 2: he was completely naked. He had no diaper, nope, no
Speaker 2: little onesie, no nothing on naked. And I had a
Speaker 2: heart attack. I mind you, like I was only like
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three or twenty four years old and I'm
Speaker 2: home alone with these babies, and oh my god, I
Speaker 2: was having a heart attack. And I grabbed him with
Speaker 2: the blanket and I ran into my daughter's room and
Speaker 2: she was sound asleep, perfectly fine, and that was it.
Speaker 2: I searched around for his diaper, under the bed, everywhere.
Speaker 2: It was nowhere, nowhere. So I got him all dressed
Speaker 2: and I went to bed, went back to bed, and
Speaker 2: then I woke up and I totally remembered everything completely.
Speaker 2: It was so many years ago, because he how old
Speaker 2: is he now? He's thirty. It's a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you have all this activity taking place around
Speaker 1: your house. You're finding the structures and just different, different
Speaker 1: strange finds that point towards Bigfoot. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you have a lifelong experience of paranormal activity. Mean, I
Speaker 1: would be thinking the same thing too. You know that
Speaker 1: somehow it's connected, and you know that there's a correlation
Speaker 1: between the two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I've felt like, and so so
Speaker 2: accepting the fact that sasquatch, sabbe, whatever people want to
Speaker 2: call them, I feel comfortable with save if you know.
Speaker 2: That's why I was having a hard time, because I just,
Speaker 2: you know, right away, would jump to what I already knew.
Speaker 2: I already know that aliens exist. I've seen them. I've
Speaker 2: seen UFOs, which doesn't mean, they exist, but I've seen
Speaker 2: aliens and whether they're made by government or whoever, I
Speaker 2: saw them and I saw them change, so I know
Speaker 2: they have abilities. So I just like I didn't want
Speaker 2: to open up another like can of worms. And you
Speaker 2: know there's sasquatch, but I think he's all in the same,
Speaker 2: but they're different. There's just there's another world out there,
Speaker 2: or worlds that are blending with ours. And I think
Speaker 2: some areas are just more are blended than others, or
Speaker 2: some people have the ability some way to see or
Speaker 2: feel or be in both worlds at the same time
Speaker 2: without knowing it. Even I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some sort of mixing going on, and I
Speaker 2: think these beings know how to travel through that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, well I think we're getting close towards the end.
Speaker 1: But if you experience any more activity, or maybe you
Speaker 1: have a sighting or anything else, do you want to
Speaker 1: come back onto the show and talk about you know,
Speaker 1: you're free to get a hold of me and come
Speaker 1: back on.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'll keep you up to date what's going on here.
Speaker 2: I'll just drop you a little line and see why
Speaker 2: I can't wait for Spring to look up for it,
Speaker 2: like look for sheds and stuff and just whatever I find,
Speaker 2: and I just I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same here, yeah, and anything that you find, feel
Speaker 1: free to share it on or send it on Skype
Speaker 1: and I'll put it up in the video.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, Well I'll look over my stuff now. I'll
Speaker 2: probably send you some stuff after this. If it works
Speaker 2: through Skype, then that'd be great. Because my old phones
Speaker 2: aren't hooked up. I don't think I can. I tried
Speaker 2: to like email them to my husbands and blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and it's not working.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, Wolvenice. I had a pleasure speaking
Speaker 1: with you and talking about all your experiences and fines
Speaker 1: and even your theories.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. It feels kind of good to be
Speaker 2: able just to say it to somebody like a stranger.
Speaker 2: And I'm really curious to see what people have to say.
Speaker 2: They can call me names if they want. I know
Speaker 2: what's going on here is It's not just my imagination.
Speaker 2: It happens with my friends here too.
Speaker 1: And I had to convince you to come come on
Speaker 1: and talk. It's not like you just wanted to hear
Speaker 1: yourself talk or something like it took work on my end.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. And if anybody has anything negative
Speaker 1: to say, you know, I'll deal with them in the comments.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Well, it was lots of fun and
Speaker 2: hopefully more stuff happens and then we can just like
Speaker 2: just keep it going and keep updated and stuff, and
Speaker 2: hopefully it's stuff that helps us figure this puzzle out.
Speaker 2: Like that's all that really, you know, and not that
Speaker 2: the whole world needs to know and somebody needs to
Speaker 2: announce it, but just just be aware there's other things
Speaker 2: going on, there's other worlds that are blending with all ours,
Speaker 2: and and it's really it can be amazing.
Speaker 1: It's exciting, absolutely, and I agree with that. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll keep in touch and yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Good. Well, my friends want to know when this is
Speaker 2: going to be on, so if you can let me know,
Speaker 2: I'll let them know.
Speaker 1: Okay, ye should be your require it. Yeah, it should
Speaker 1: be a couple of weeks, so.
Speaker 2: Okay, it shouldn't be too long.
Speaker 1: Awesome, all right, all right, well you have yourself a
Speaker 1: good day, and thank.
Speaker 2: You you too. Bye bye, now, all right, we'll talk later.
Speaker 2: Good Bye, yeep