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Speaker 1: What a great song that is. I love that. That

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is called Scarlet. The band is the Painting, the album

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is Before the Rain, and let's get Lewis in here.

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Lewis Taylor is on the line with us via Microsoft Teams. Hello, Lewis, Hi.

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Speaker 2: There, how's it going good?

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Speaker 1: Good, Welcome to the show. I love that song. I

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love that song so much. That is that is so good?

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We play that. We played it when it first came out,

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and I still love it as much as I I did.

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Listen to the entire album, by the way, Before the Rain.

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I think the whole thing is great. So I'm really

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happy to have you on the show today.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I'm really glad to be here to this.

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Speaker 1: We excellent.

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Speaker 2: Just before we go in it further, I went to

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pass on condolences as well to yourself about your dad.

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I lost my dad a couple of years ago, and

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so I know what it's like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I appreciate that very much. Yeah, it's it's

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it's rough, it's yeah, it's it's uh. I'm still I'm

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still kind of processing it all. But I'm sorry to

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hear that you lost your dad a couple of years ago.

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But yeah, so you you know what, uh, you know

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what we're going through here. But no, I appreciate that

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very much.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no problem, but uh.

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Speaker 1: So happier subjects. So, like I said, I love the

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band and you guys are from Glasgow? Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're based in Glasgow. We're all all the

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members are were you know, originally from different parts of Scotland,

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but we're all based in Glasgow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay? And then how long has the band been around?

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Speaker 2: Oh as this iteration of the band, maybe around the

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year and that's what I thought. Yeah, beforehand we were

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in a we were a different band with a different name,

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but that will that will changed about a year ago

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and we decided to change name and change direction slightly

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with what kind of music we played as well.

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Speaker 1: So The Painting as an entity then is a is

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a relatively new, uh project, which is interesting because you've

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already got you've already got a full album out, Like

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when when you became when the band became The Painting,

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did did you immediately start working on this album?

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Speaker 2: I think at that point in time we didn't realize

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it was going to be, you know, an album. I

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think we had thoughts it might be maybe a couple

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of singles or you know, a kind of a shorter release.

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And by this time went on and we realized that

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we are very prolific when it comes to writing songs,

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and we we think it's mostly we find it easy,

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but we'll be just it just comes quite naturally to

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to just you know, to write to write music. And

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very quickly it became evident that we were you know,

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we were having had a large batch of songs and

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we decided, let's just record an album.

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Speaker 1: It's cool when when it seems so natural and it

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and it kind of comes easy, right, because that's when

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you know you've really got something. I mean, it's you know,

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it's fine if you have to to really work at it,

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that's that's okay too. But when you when as a band,

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when when just the songwriting process, when these songs just

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come together quickly, it's that's how you know you're really

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onto something. I think when it's when it's just kind

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of natural and organic. And and part of why I

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was so curious about that too, is because it is

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a full album. Because we live in a time, as

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you know, and you referenced it too, you you know,

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you were talking about how you had to decide, you know,

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are you going to do a full album or are

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you going to do singles or an EP or whatever.

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full album, that's a big undertaking right out of the gate,

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but it sounds like it made a lot of sense

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given your situation with the band.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're definitely very, very ambitious when it comes to

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things like, you know, like recording an album or you know,

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you know, elevate things and aim for something quite ambitious. Yeah, yeah,

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and yeah, you're Redially, it's a very I think it's

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quite a rare thing to be able to be with

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another group of musicians and be able to come up

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with things very very quickly and you know, efficiently. I

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mean I've been in projects before where it would take

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it could take you months to even write one song,

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whereas we could write a song not easily. I mean,

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think it's quite a rare thing, and you know, it's

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it's always a fun process. With the rest of the

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Speaker 1: I think I neglected to mention too. So you're the

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best player in the band. So I am myself a

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bass player. So there we go. Bass players unite absolutely.

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Speaker 2: It's not became you know, kind of public knowledge. We

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now down to a five piece at this moment in time. Okay, Yeah,

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we recently had someone exit the band, and I won't

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go into it. It's it's not really you know, there's

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no point in then too as what is But yeah,

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we're yeah, we're five members and we're just continuing as normal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Now the album Before the Storm is there,

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I'm sorry, before the Before the Rain rather is there? Oh,

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I know why I was singing storm. I was seen

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about the song Waited the Storm, which we're gonna play

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at the end of the segment. But yeah, but is

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there any kind of a theme, you know, lyrically, is

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there any kind of a theme of the album. It's

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it's really cohesive. It almost feels like there could be

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a theme, but maybe not. I'm not sure you tell us.

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Speaker 2: This is this is the hard book because I'm probably

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the wrong person task based as in Keaton, who is

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the you know, the sega and let us as to

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the band. But I think we all collectively agreed like

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points to can the new beginnings a lot of the time. Yeah,

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us becoming a new project, you know, coming from the

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ashes of an old band basically, and I know Kieren

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wouldn't mind me talking about it as well. But obviously

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he went through a breakup during this time and then

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has now moved on to you know, a new relationship,

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and that's essentially what the song Scarlet's about, is a

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new relationship. So there's a lot of kind of new

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beginnings is probably I think a quite a big you

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know theme within the album, within the lyrics. I think

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you're right as pretty cohesive, and I think it was

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quite unintentional. I don't think it was it was set

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out to be like that, but yeah, I think when

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was to go back and listen to it, or you know,

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listen to the lyrics, I could definitely see that there's

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a lot of you know, and intertwined kind of themes

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the to the album that I really like. And also

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it looks like a painting. But I'm I'm and it's

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band and the name of the album. It's it's in

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the upper left corner, you know, kind of kind of small,

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it's you don't have to hunt for it. But but

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what looks to be a painting. But I'm curious about

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the artwork. I mean, is that an actual painting that

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that's hanging somewhere and uh or is it specifically for

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the album or where does that come from?

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Speaker 2: No? Actually, it's it's actually a fool graph really yeah, yeah,

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we I think it's maybe slightly been edited to to

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photograph that we came across online and by a photographer,

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and we you know, we obviously spoke to the photographer

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and got permission to use it. But yeah, I understand

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where you're coming from. It it does look like a painting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. It really does. Absolutely. What was

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the so, what was the name of the band that

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that pre pre dates the painting.

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Speaker 2: It was Arcade State.

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Speaker 1: Arcade State. Yeah, that's a that's an interesting name. That's

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kind of cool. Two random ones and then and then

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so so how many how many members from that are

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, now that project and then start the painting.

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on broadcasting and stuff. But I've been in situations where

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it's like, in fact, I've been in that exact situation

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where one band, You've got one band, and you're thinking

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do this whole new thing with this new name. How

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much of the old thing gets brought into the new

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curious about that.

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or anything. It wasn't like that. It just wasn't. Yeah,

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that point. I don't know if his plans were to

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me to come back and play bass for him, and

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heavy music. You know, it was more a little bit

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more abrasive than what we are now, obviously, but we

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of things. And I think all of us, like our

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and we wanted to kind of lean more into that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you guys have been busy. You've been doing

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a lot. That's wonderful. I'm curious did any of the

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material from Arcade State make it into the painting or

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did you just start completely new?

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Speaker 2: So we started completely fresh? Yeah, Yeah, we actually think

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even had a number of songs that we could have

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carried over, you know, to this project, but we just

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scraped them essentially. There might there might be a little

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bits here and there, like a guitar line, or like

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a few lines of like lyrics and things like that,

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but it's not you know, it's not like a base

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of a song that's came from the project. Everything is

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essentially new.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, what was that difficult? Because you know, song

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like some some songwriters will describe songs as being almost

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like their children and it's hard to you know, it's

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hard to leave them behind. Was that was that difficult

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at all, like leaving all of that behind or did

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it just seem like the natural thing to do or

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what was that like?

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Speaker 2: It definitely felt like the natural thing to do. Good,

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But also we are quite cutthroat, well we we well

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just scrap things and and just move on. Obviously there'll

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be there'll be certain songs that you they will miss

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from the old from the old band. Yeah, none of

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it fits anymore. It really makes sense. So I mean,

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but I think we're quite content with the direction we're heading.

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But no, I think we might be a little bit

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of a kind of were entity there where we're quite cutthroat.

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We don't mind, We'll just move on and write something else.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's good, that's that's excellent. Good for you. And

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then what's the lives situation like for you guys? Are

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you playing a lot lot of live shows or so?

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Speaker 2: There was a period of time when we were writing

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the album we weren't really playing at all. It was

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more just focused on the writing aspect of things. But

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as the years came to a close, like coming to

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a close, we have played a few gigs recently. We

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played a headline show in Glasgow in October and then

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another headline show in Edinburgh in November. It was sorry,

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everything this whole year is just a blur. Yeah, but yeah,

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so and we also played a kind of mini festival

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like like a day festival, indoor festival in Aberdeen as well.

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It started December, so you know, we were quite busy

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coming towards the end of the year and then moving

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into next year, we've got quite a lot coming up.

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We've got a lot dates planned, We've got almost a

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small mini tour of the UK planned as well, and yeah,

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there's many other things in the works that hasn't you know,

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it's not been announced jet and it's not being confirmed yet,

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but there's a lot Next year is gonna be really

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really busy for us?

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Speaker 1: Well, very good, good good. So in a moment, we're

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going to play at the end of our our conversation,

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we're going to play the track Waiting on the Storm.

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What should people know about this one? This is one

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because I had asked you, so we'll pull back the

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curtain a little bit. I did ask you, Yeah, what

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you wanted to what you wanted us to play at

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the end of the at the end of the segment,

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and I don't I mean, is this going to be

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the next single or is this just one that that

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that you're really proud of or what? What should we

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know about this song before we play it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So this is an earlate single from the album

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and the final single from the album. And this song

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was actually written in I think maybe ten minutes. Wow,

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it was a yeah, yeah, it was a very very

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quick This is one of the occasions where we didn't

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overthink it. We just played what failed natural and this

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is what came out.

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Speaker 1: Wow, excellent, excellent. So before we let you go and

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before we hit that song. What should people know about

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where to keep up with everything that you're doing as

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a band? Where should people Where's the best place to

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go online to keep up with the painting?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I would say definitely on Instagram. Instagram's the way

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you know where we are probably most active. You can

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find as the painting official on Instagram, and yeah, that's

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definitely the best place to keep up to date with us.

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Speaker 1: Outstanding outstanding, Well, Lewis, I really appreciate you joining us

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here today this morning or well, I don't know what

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time is it where you are, where you are, it's

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probably afternoon, right, Yeah, it's two theory tooth theory you.

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Speaker 2: I'll forgive you you.

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Speaker 1: It is indeed, it is inded. No, but I do

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very much appreciate you doing joining us. Like I said,

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I listened to the full album and we've become fast

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fans of the painting here, really really like what you're doing.

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So we'll definitely have to do this in the future,

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and certainly once you have some new music, we'll have

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you on or you know, or anything that you have

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coming up that's exciting. You know, we'd love to have

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you back and we will definitely do this again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me and moving to

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quietly come back on. It's been been a.

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Speaker 1: Pleasure, wonderful, wonderful. All right, Lewis, thank you. We'll let

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you go. We're gonna hit this track and we will

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talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Take care, no problem, Thank you any much.

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Speaker 1: You got it, Bye bye, all right. That is Lewis Taylor.

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He is the bass player for the band The Painting.

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And here's another great track, and this is going to

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be the next single. You heard it here first, at

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least on American radio. You're hearing it for the first time,

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so I don't know if it's been played over there yet.

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But this is from the album Before the Rain, and

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the track is called Waiting on the Storm.

