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This is 91 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:01.560 from Tom Ivan over if you GC the Grand Theft 92 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.199 Auto six release date remains on track for fall of 93 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:08.040 calendar twenty twenty five. Publisher Take two confirmed the games 94 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.720 planned launch window hasn't changed as part of its second 95 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.600 quarter financial results on Wednesday. The first Grand Theft Auto 96 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.839 six trailer was released in December twenty twenty three, confirming 97 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:20.720 a planned twenty twenty five release date. It racked up 98 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:22.920 more than one hundred million views in just two days, 99 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:25.839 surpassing the lifetime the use of GTA five's debut trailer, 100 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:28.639 making it one of the most viewed trailers in YouTube history. 101 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.120 Updating its financial guidance in May, Take two narrowed the 102 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:34.959 game's release window from calendar twenty twenty five to the 103 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:37.439 fall of next year, a fall of twenty twenty five. 104 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:41.160 During a subsequent interview with CNBC, Take two CEO Strauss 105 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.879 Zelnik discussed the process of deciding product release dates and 106 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:46.959 how companies know when the time is right for the 107 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.959 creative perspective. From the creative perspective, there are elements that 108 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:53.160 you can actually measure, for example, the number of bugs 109 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.120 in a title, and every one of us will make 110 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.319 sure we have as few bugs as possible before we 111 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.720 allow Shut up, Strauss, you're not doing what do you 112 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:03.040 talk about? However, in the case of an extraordinary title 113 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:06.720 for which there are extraordinary expectations, it's not really about bugs. 114 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.399 It's about creating an experience that no one's seen before. 115 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.759 And Rockstar Games seeks perfection in what they do, and 116 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.120 perfection is indeed hard to measure. It really is more 117 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:20.360 subjective than objective. Boy, that's a bunch of bullshit, But yeah, whatever, 118 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:23.759 Hey GTA six. They started off saying twenty twenty five. 119 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:28.160 I think when they were saying that jan we were speculating. 120 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.040 I think a lot of analysts were expecting that to 121 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:33.120 mean potentially early twenty twenty five. They never said that. 122 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:36.199 When they did narrow it down, they narrowed it down 123 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:38.319 beyond the current fiscal year. And the reason we thought 124 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:40.879 it would be this fiscal year, so like by March 125 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:44.000 of twenty twenty five, was they had big ideas in 126 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.439 their head and that they were telling investors about big 127 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:50.120 numbers for the next fiscal year or whatever, or for 128 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:53.279 the current fiscal year that we're still in, but that shifted, 129 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.240 and so you know, kind of a delay, not technically delay, 130 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:57.439 but a little bit of a delay. So they put 131 00:06:57.439 --> 00:06:59.360 it in late twenty twenty five. So the things already 132 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:03.639 kind of had a many technical delay, but they're not 133 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:05.759 right now they're saying, well, there won't be another one. 134 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:08.040 By fall twenty twenty five, we're gonna be playing this thing. 135 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:12.399 And I mean, I keep feeling like, now we got 136 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:13.800 to get one big delay for this thing. 137 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:19.399 Yeah, this game is I hate to use this, bru, 138 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:24.319 but it feels too important and too big to not 139 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.439 take all of the time necessary to address whatever bugs, 140 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:32.519 to address whatever else needs to happen with the release 141 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.160 and the launch of the game. That I do feel 142 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:39.199 like they have been very vague about a specific time 143 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:42.040 window that narrowing it down to even fall twenty twenty 144 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:47.199 five at this point still feels like they're padding out 145 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:50.879 time to fall twenty twenty five or like latter half 146 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:56.199 of twenty twenty five, early twenty twenty six. And it 147 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:00.240 feels like that I don't want to say that read 148 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:01.920 that in the tea leaves, but it feels like it 149 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:06.439 is a distinct possibility for GTA six, especially if they're 150 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:09.800 talking already talking about addressing all of these bugs now. 151 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:12.879 Yeah, and we you know, and there's a lot from 152 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:15.600 Take two here in the news today, and a lot 153 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.439 of the stories are addressing exactly what you're getting at 154 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.920 when you when you started there that GTA six is 155 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.519 so important. I mean, obviously it's I think it is 156 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:26.920 important to the industry, but it's clearly massively important to 157 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.000 the future of Take two, to the point where it like, 158 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.720 as that game goes, so does that corporation because they 159 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:35.279 don't have a lot of other eggs in their basket 160 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:36.639 that you know. That's one of the things we're going 161 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:38.240 to talk about here in a second from them. So 162 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:42.120 they you know, saying they have to get it right. 163 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:45.080 You know, it's it's software plus art. It's difficult and weird, 164 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:47.759 and and they're gonna, you know, we'll put something out 165 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.120 and it might not resemble what the game will look 166 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.360 like in five years time. Like of course we've we've 167 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.639 been through that dance a bunch of times now. But 168 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.799 I think ideally what they're looking for here is put 169 00:08:57.799 --> 00:08:59.879 out a game that just gets a bunch of tens 170 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:04.039 and has a working online mode that they can start 171 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:09.000 to like build onto immediately and just immediately restart the 172 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:12.240 engine of a game that can sell two hundred and 173 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:14.919 five million copies, which is you know, we again. We'll 174 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:20.120 talk about that in a second. So yeah, honestly, how 175 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:21.840 do you get to the point where you feel good 176 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:24.159 about putting out a game like that? It feels impossible. 177 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.480 It feels absolutely impossible. Gro But at the same time, 178 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:31.120 I feel like the landscape of game releases has become 179 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:36.960 so different and expectations have become so different. If if 180 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:41.600 GTA six decided to launch as like an open beta 181 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.799 or like a beta phase or unfinished phase, like a 182 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:49.480 before they hit one point zero, people would still eat 183 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:53.120 that up. People would still be flocking to download GTA 184 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.399 six and play it in whatever state it's in, even 185 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.320 if it's maybe just a stripped down GTA online mode 186 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.720 or the full story isn't there yet. I think if 187 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.200 Rockstar wanted to go to that approach, they would still 188 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:07.320 sell Gangbusters. 189 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:09.000 M h. I think correct. 190 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.360 Yeah, if they wanted to treat it like, hey, you 191 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:15.200 guys test out all the bugs for us, people would 192 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:16.080 jump at the chance. 193 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.360 Yeah, and uh, that might be pretty similar to what 194 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.679 I think, you know, the online mode ends up looking 195 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:25.320 like for this uh, you know, I imagine it does 196 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:30.039 go something like GTA six launches and it is very 197 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.240 much about these new characters and their world and the 198 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:36.240 story there. And then there is a GTA online mode 199 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:39.000 that sort of resets the clock in the way that 200 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:41.399 the SIMS often does or the Madden games at the 201 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:46.200 beginning and a generation does or you lose several significant features, 202 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:49.039 but they make big promises about what the future could 203 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:52.720 hold and yeah, and so you kind of like start 204 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:54.720 small and it does feel a little bit like a 205 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.639 testing period and maybe really maybe it is you know, 206 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:03.279 gt online origine kind of launched that way unfinished, you know, 207 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:06.960 not really very robust, easy to bounce off of, but 208 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:11.200 it had some juice and that was pretty obvious right 209 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.320 away to the developers, which is why they immediately went 210 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.960 into supporting it. And now here we are several years later, 211 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:21.120 and it is just this machine that prints money. 212 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:24.600 Even if they even if GTA six has like a 213 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.080 bad initial launch that is full of bugs, I don't 214 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:29.679 think it would hurt it in the same way that 215 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:34.200 it hurt games like Cyberpunk, yeah, or even Fallout seventy six. 216 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.000 Because I think the name GTA six, people will just 217 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:43.799 the greater general audience will just grin their teeth and 218 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:46.600 grit their teeth and bear it, yeah, because they want 219 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:47.919 to be in that world or whatever. 220 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:52.000 Yeah, I mean, it's there's not a lot of other 221 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.840 options for getting that thing because you know, Grand Theft 222 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.639 Auto has has pushed out all the other competitors in 223 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:01.639 the space and really nothing you know, rises to its levels. 224 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.879 So and it's a cultural, you know, iconic institution now, 225 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:08.279 you know, with the trailer did come out for Grand 226 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:11.320 Theft Auto six and it is instantly, you know, one 227 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:14.000 of the most watched videos for a trailer for a 228 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:17.600 product ever. So it's you know, Grand Theft Auto has 229 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:22.200 that sort of cachet and I think people will want 230 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:24.000 to love it no matter what. Now, you know, if 231 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:27.360 it's fundamentally broken and like people are losing their saves 232 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:29.639 and things like that, it's so big. It could also 233 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:31.840 like turn into a really big thing where it's like 234 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.600 you know, Cyberpunk had news stories and stuff like that 235 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:38.240 written about it in the mainstream media. That could happen. 236 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.039 But I think Grand Theft Auto just will is this 237 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.360 unstoppable force, right, and there are no immovable objects you 238 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:46.240 can put in front of it. 239 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.000 I'm expecting GT six to have new stories around the 240 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:53.480 launch regardless. Oh right, for whether it's like I can't 241 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:57.200 believe they're letting people steal cars in a game. They're 242 00:12:57.240 --> 00:12:58.240 shaking butts. 243 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.080 They are shaking butts. To see that in the trailer 244 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:04.039 and the butt the butt shaking. The physics technology was 245 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.960 very impressive, which is what I respect. I respect the 246 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:10.559 technology all right. Like I said, there's a whole bunch 247 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:12.960 more of you know about GTA six, about GT five, 248 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.600 about Take two. Uh speaking of g t A six 249 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:20.000 and maybe, hey, what was this game? Is this game 250 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.879 gonna work on the Xbox Series S? The developers are 251 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:25.759 saying they're not worried about it. That's according to Eddie 252 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:28.840 McCoo at GameSpot. Grand Theft Auto six is in development 253 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.519 for the PlayStation five and Xbox Series X and S. 254 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:33.240 But how will the game look and perform on the 255 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:36.279 relatively less powerful Series S. We don't know for sure, 256 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:38.840 but Take two boss Strauss Zelnik is not losing sleep 257 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:42.000 over it. During Take Two's latest earnings call Excuse Me, 258 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:45.080 Zelnick was asked about the Series S being, by design 259 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:47.360 a lower spec console. Compared to the series X and 260 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:50.320 P S five g t GT six is expected to 261 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:53.799 be a boundary pushing game technically speaking, prompting concerns by 262 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.919 some that it won't be a great experience on the console. Look, 263 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.480 we support the platforms where the consumers are for as 264 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:01.759 long as there there, and we find a way to 265 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:04.919 support platforms despite different levels of tech. Our labels are 266 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:08.679 really good at that. I'm not really worried, and I think, 267 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:10.879 you know, I buy this because you know they are 268 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:12.759 going to want to put this thing out on PC, 269 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:16.159 supporting a wide variety of of skew or of you know, 270 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.000 capabilities there this you know, this is also a series 271 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:23.399 that you know historically, you know, GT five launched on 272 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:27.480 the Xbox three sixty in the PS three, right, And 273 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:31.120 that's always messes me up whenever I remember that because 274 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.360 I just do not associate that game with those consoles 275 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:36.879 at all. But that's where it started. So them like 276 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.159 kind of building this game for Xbox series s and 277 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:43.919 having that in mind, it is probably something that's happening. 278 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:45.519 But they're also building it in such a way that, 279 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:47.279 like they know this game is going to be around 280 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.000 for a long time, so they can continue to improve 281 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:51.759 it and update it for a very long time to 282 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:54.080 take advantage of new hardware as it comes along. That 283 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:54.879 sounds right to me. 284 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.240 How about you, absolutely grub They want to hit uh, 285 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.519 they want to hit every everyone where they're at, especially 286 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:03.200 if you look at the math and how there are 287 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:05.679 still people playing Called of Duty, the madd Ends of 288 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.200 the World on PS four, playing Fortnite, even on PS 289 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:12.759 four Xbox Series s. Rock Star is gonna try and 290 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:16.000 hit those people where they're at still because they don't 291 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.519 have to move consoles, they just have to move copies 292 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:21.080 of the game. I think there's also a world where, 293 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:24.440 maybe six months down the line from the initial console 294 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.919 PC release, we'll see rumblings of GTA six coming out 295 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:32.840 on phones. Yea, because you know, we see Apple talking 296 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:34.840 all the time about like, hey, you can play Resident 297 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:38.960 Evil four on your phone. It looks great somehow justify 298 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:42.679 spending sixty dollars on your phone for a game. I 299 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:46.120 think that world is quickly going to also come to 300 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.679 phones as well as the old generation of consoles. 301 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:55.039 Yeah, I mean it's possible that God, yeah, the old 302 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:58.639 gym I think they will probably look something like this. 303 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.960 It comes out for Xbox Series X and S and 304 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:06.159 PlayStation five, and then we're sort of like in a 305 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.879 holding pattern until you know. It'll take advantage of the 306 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:11.120 PS five pro obviously, but then I think next year 307 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:14.000 we get the PC version, and then not long after that, 308 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:16.879 like by the next year, we could have new Xbox 309 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:20.039 hardware by it's one twenty six, so they probably just 310 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:23.879 focus on like supporting the next new thing, and at 311 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.279 that point they won't need to support older consoles anymore. 312 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.480 You know, as much as we've seen the weird things 313 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:33.519 like many big games get backboarded to PS four and 314 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.639 UH and Xbox one, that probably won't be necessary for 315 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:40.039 a game launching in fall of twenty twenty five, that 316 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:42.960 we actually should be pretty decoupled from those consoles by 317 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:46.679 that point, especially a game that can dictate people to 318 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:48.960 go out and buy new hardware if you don't have it. 319 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:52.000 If you are still on a PS four and you're 320 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.720 playing Fortnite, one of the things you've probably been waiting 321 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:56.840 for is, you know, a big game to give you 322 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:59.639 a reason, and that probably has always been GTA six. 323 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:01.600 So I think they will take advantage of that and 324 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:05.400 just ride or die with the current gen and then forward, 325 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:10.200 But yeah, Xbox series s not being a problem. Yeah, 326 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:14.400 we'll see. It probably will be almost certainly is going 327 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:18.400 to be demonstrably less performative than the other versions. But 328 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:20.319 I bet it's not going to be some huge issue 329 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:23.920 for this game, especially you know, they probably have some 330 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:26.079 of the best tech people in the industry able to 331 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:28.000 take advantage of this stuff. So we'll see. 332 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.240 I've seen amount of people, yes, for real. 333 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.400 All right. GTA five has now sold over two hundred 334 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:37.680 and five million copies. This is from Andrew McLarney at 335 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.200 Dual Shockers. Rockstar game's most popular title, GTA five has 336 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:45.319 achieved another monumental milestone in terms of its already towering 337 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.480 sales figures. In addition to its excellent sales record, GT 338 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.480 five also remains the most watched game on streams worldwide, 339 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:54.839 which speaks to its broad popularity across the gaming community. 340 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:57.680 You know, at least at twenty thirteen and now is 341 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:01.200 you know, over the time, over time and several versions later, 342 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:04.079 two hundred and five million copies. It's just in a 343 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:08.240 completely different stratus here obviously, you know, I think they 344 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:10.880 talk about it here. Yeah, it's sold, it's selling well 345 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:15.440 because people just like GTA. They associate like GTA as 346 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.039 a cannon game, a mount rushmore of video games that 347 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:21.039 you just get when you get hardware. But I think 348 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:24.400 also the online mode and being able to get certain 349 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.119 like bonuses in the game and Shark cards that you 350 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:28.680 can use on stuff in the game whenever you buy 351 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:31.759 the game has caused people to go out and repurchase 352 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:35.640 GTA five multiple times, and that has racked, you know, 353 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:38.880 just completely caused them to run up the score here 354 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:42.759 to two hundred and five million copies sold it. 355 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:44.960 I don't know, it feels I don't know why I 356 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:49.680 get offended that. It feels unfair crubb yep, it offends 357 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:54.279 me for whatever reason. But hey, it this game is 358 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:58.119 I think I have. I want to say, I might 359 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.759 have three copies of this game. Oh and I can't 360 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:02.640 pinpoint where I have this kit. 361 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:07.319 I think I own it Xbox three sixty now because 362 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:09.240 it came with the Xbox three sixty I bought for 363 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:11.960 Black Club. I definitely have it already. I think I 364 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:19.079 have a digitally on Xbox one and PS four, I 365 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.359 want to say, and then PC. So yeah, I got 366 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:25.880 like four copies. It's that just happens, right with these 367 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:28.160 really big games. It sort of just falls in your 368 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:32.960 lap sometimes, but yeah, it goes beyond that, like us 369 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:35.599 just sort of happening to get three or four copies 370 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:38.440 like that. Sure, that accounts for a lot of the sales. 371 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:40.880 It does not actually account for two hundred and five 372 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:45.000 million copies sold. That is just not normal. And so 373 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:47.440 that that's where the GTA online stuff comes into play. 374 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:51.720 I'm really curious to see, Yeah, exactly how much GTA 375 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:54.720 onlines et influence in like the last couple of years, 376 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:58.160 specifically grub has has skyrocket that number if there was 377 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:02.400 like a giant jump because of the prevalence of streamers 378 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:06.119 playing GTA online and RP servers. I always thought that 379 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:10.599 gt online RP servers were a very niche thing until 380 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:13.160 I saw how big they act. 381 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:15.440 That's one of the reasons the most watched game on 382 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.799 on Twitch is because those AREP servers, roleplay service people 383 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:20.559 that pretending to do stuff for people that wonder what 384 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:23.359 we mean. Yeah, the role playing servers are massively popular. 385 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:28.079 It makes me curious, Greb that I think there was 386 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:31.319 a world where g t A five or g t 387 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:33.720 A online was not popular, and then we were still 388 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:35.880 talking about Second life sure. 389 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:38.799 I'll still talk about Second Life with you if you want. Man, 390 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:43.319 don't don't you worry? Yeah, I I you know, I'm 391 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:45.920 very curious, you know, remembering back to new stories we 392 00:20:46.039 --> 00:20:50.319 talked about on this show of rock Star acquiring the 393 00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:52.839 you know, the people that make Grand Theft Auto five 394 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.240 role playing possible? And what does that look like in 395 00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:59.440 g t A six? What is that? How do they 396 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:02.400 sort of present sent that to the community of players 397 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:05.400 that don't know what that is, but clearly enough of 398 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:07.640 them are going to because it is so popular on 399 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:09.960 Twitch that you know, it's just become part of what 400 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:13.279 Grand Theft Auto can be. But how does a company 401 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:16.279