Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Laughed out loud in the kitchen
Speaker 1: this morning when I noticed that the La Times did
Speaker 1: a six page story on a man whose goats were
Speaker 1: taken away by animal services in Los Angeles. Did we
Speaker 1: ask do we need six pages on the goat napping?
Speaker 2: They're finding some stuff to write on and we know
Speaker 2: that that's.
Speaker 3: Important, so we'll get into that plate.
Speaker 4: One of Gaza's last functioning hospitals has been emptying out.
Speaker 4: Israel has ordered the evacuation of some nearby areas. Israel
Speaker 4: signaled a possible ground operation in a town that has
Speaker 4: largely been spared throughout the war that was ignited by
Speaker 4: Hamas's October seventh attack. The Alaxa Martyr's Hospital is the
Speaker 4: main hospital that serves the central part of Gaza, and
Speaker 4: the Israeli military is not ordered that the hospital be evacuated,
Speaker 4: but patients and some people sheltering there said it may
Speaker 4: be caught up in the fighting or possibly even targeted
Speaker 4: in a raid.
Speaker 1: Well, we told you on Friday about Tom Girardi taking
Speaker 1: the stand in his wire fraud trial, the final witness
Speaker 1: called by his lawyers to testify, claiming he did that
Speaker 1: every client of his got every penny that every client
Speaker 1: was supposed to get. They say that he suffers from
Speaker 1: dementia but was deemed able to assist in his own defense.
Speaker 1: The defense is that it's the now closed firm's former
Speaker 1: bookkeeper that is in trouble. First that is responsible for
Speaker 1: stealing at least fifteen million dollars from former clients, spending
Speaker 1: it on private jets, jewelry and other things.
Speaker 4: And then that guy Chris Cayman is also facing several
Speaker 4: charges too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not sure how it works if Chris
Speaker 1: Cayman is the one getting the blame for this when
Speaker 1: there are receipts that they can show that a lot
Speaker 1: of it went to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: star Erica Jane a star very loosely, she's featured on
Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the public defender that's working on Tom Girardi's
Speaker 4: behalf said that Girardi was forgetful, he got more and
Speaker 4: more confused as the years went by, and that that
Speaker 4: bookkeeper Chris came and took advantage of the fact that
Speaker 4: he was diminished mentally.
Speaker 3: He is eighty five now.
Speaker 1: Tom Girardi, former plaintiff's lawyer, ex owner of that firm.
Speaker 1: Girardi keys the most connected lawyer you could argue in
Speaker 1: La County for sure, up and down the state.
Speaker 3: Really he could yield power.
Speaker 1: This was a guy who, if you wanted to be
Speaker 1: a judge in this state, you'd have to kiss the ring.
Speaker 3: Very very well connected.
Speaker 1: And this is all about him using the client trust
Speaker 1: accounts as his personal piggy bank. These are people who
Speaker 1: lost loved ones and plane crashes, people that were injured
Speaker 1: to the point of not being able to leave their
Speaker 1: house or use their legs again. And they would say, sorry,
Speaker 1: we haven't We just haven't gotten the check yet, while
Speaker 1: all the time they had the check and they were
Speaker 1: spending the check's register.
Speaker 4: His appearance, I guess on Thursday was enough to give
Speaker 4: the public defender the ability. And I don't know why
Speaker 4: you'd put him on the stand. I mean, because he's
Speaker 4: not a sympathetic character, yes, but he is. He has
Speaker 4: that charisma.
Speaker 1: He is one of those people comes across very likable
Speaker 1: and if he gets on the stand and he is
Speaker 1: this adult, older man with dementia but still has that likability.
Speaker 1: I think that goes a long way if you can
Speaker 1: get up there and pretend enough that you don't know
Speaker 1: you know that this is day taco.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like if you get up and you appear to be
Speaker 1: so out of it that there's and a likable guy.
Speaker 1: He's got this affable, like almost Midwestern type of affectation
Speaker 1: about him. And if you can do that and then
Speaker 1: show that you have diminished mind capacity, they're probably going
Speaker 1: to be more likely to side with you that you
Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: And we saw something along these lines in Lee Baccha's trial,
Speaker 4: a former sheriff in lam Yes, And I thought it
Speaker 4: was interesting because the public defender put Tom Girardi on
Speaker 4: the stand and asked him questions like is your law
Speaker 4: firm still open? And he said, yes, it is not,
Speaker 4: it is not. And then he said Tom, what's my name?
Speaker 4: And Tom Girardi replied from the witness stand, I don't know, bad,
Speaker 4: mean terrible.
Speaker 2: It's one of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean the public defender and I don't
Speaker 4: know what sort of discussions go on between and Tom Girardi.
Speaker 4: But if your point is to put him on the
Speaker 4: stand and make an example of him and show him
Speaker 4: in diminished capacity, you give him the suggestion, Hey, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna ask you some pretty simple questions, and if you
Speaker 4: get them a little bit wrong, maybe you look a
Speaker 4: little bit more sympathetic in the eyes of the jury.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is somebody who has done enough favors
Speaker 1: for people where he does not need to live a
Speaker 1: destitute life. They are all in with this destitute life narrative.
Speaker 1: He's living in a nursing home in Orange County, and
Speaker 1: not even a good one from what I've heard. He's
Speaker 1: appearing to be dishoveled. Somebody who was always dressed to
Speaker 1: the nines and very much cared about his appearance is
Speaker 1: now wearing like a homeless get up with a mismatched
Speaker 1: suit jacket and shirt and pants, and he's disheveled. His
Speaker 1: shirt's on.
Speaker 3: Tough to me. They're selling it.
Speaker 1: They're selling the fact that he has lost his mind
Speaker 1: with the Alzheimer's or the dementia or whatever, and that
Speaker 1: he's penniless.
Speaker 3: When this is somebody.
Speaker 1: If they weren't trying to sell it, if he wasn't
Speaker 1: in trouble with the law, he'd be just fine.
Speaker 4: It also reminds me of Vincent Gigante, if you remember
Speaker 4: the mob boss who was put on trial and then
Speaker 4: was pretending to be crazy the entire time. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: again I don't know if they're faking this with Tom Varrity,
Speaker 4: but the idea that you would introduce it as as
Speaker 4: a potential explanation for why things went wrong, that he
Speaker 4: was simply out of it, he was being taken advantage of,
Speaker 4: or even if he did do some of these things,
Speaker 4: it wasn't because he was in control of his own faculties.
Speaker 4: So anyway, closing arguments today in that case, and we'll
Speaker 4: see where it goes over the course of the next port.
Speaker 1: They are underway right now, they have begun. I was
Speaker 1: surprised that this was such a quick case when you
Speaker 1: think about all the victims and things. But you know,
Speaker 1: with wirefraud, you just put an accountant up there and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is where the money was, this is where it
Speaker 1: was supposed to go, this is where it went. But
Speaker 1: if he is convicted, you got to believe you're going
Speaker 1: to hear from the victims in the sentencing phase. Tropical
Speaker 1: Storm hone is starting to move away from Hawaii to
Speaker 1: the southwest. Storm was centered one hundred and eighty miles
Speaker 1: southwest of Honolulu one hundred and eighty five miles south
Speaker 1: of La Hui. Sustained wins. We're at seventy miles per
Speaker 1: hour with higher gusts. The storm is continued expected to
Speaker 1: continue to gradually weekend today.
Speaker 2: Hey, Gary, that's outbreak movie is at t Bola? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: they weren't disseecting tarts in the laboratory. No, just clarifying,
Speaker 2: thank you. I did conflate my ebolas and e.
Speaker 3: Col Yes, I mean neither one is a good look.
Speaker 2: Probably don't want either one.
Speaker 3: Output with both of those.
Speaker 4: I think he Coli is less likely to kill you
Speaker 4: than ebola, but I don't think either one of them
Speaker 4: would be fun.
Speaker 3: Hear this Babe Ruth story about his jersey?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who is that?
Speaker 1: Who is spending twenty four million dollars on that jersey?
Speaker 3: Of course?
Speaker 1: It is the Great Game, the Infamous called Shot Game
Speaker 1: three of the nineteen thirty two World Series. It sold
Speaker 1: at an auction house in New York for twenty four
Speaker 1: million dollars. It surpasses a nineteen fifty two tops Mickey
Speaker 1: Mantle baseball card that sold for twelve point six million dollars.
Speaker 1: Back in two thousand and five, that same jersey worn
Speaker 1: by Babe Ruth sold for nine hundred and forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: It was only known as the one he wore on
Speaker 1: the road during the thirty two World Series against the Cubs.
Speaker 1: Companies have photo matched it in recent years and discovered
Speaker 1: he wore it in Game three when he pointed to
Speaker 1: the outfield with the bat and hit a home run
Speaker 1: into center field.
Speaker 2: Called his Shot.
Speaker 4: Steve Lopez has a great article, a great column in
Speaker 4: the La Times regarding.
Speaker 2: Regarding Langers Deli.
Speaker 4: I mean it's Langers Deli specifically, but generally it's about
Speaker 4: the condition of pockets.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to a pocket.
Speaker 4: The conditions of several areas of the city of Los
Speaker 4: Angeles which have made everyday normal life untenable.
Speaker 3: Norm Langer is a great guy.
Speaker 1: I interviewed him years ago because I did a feature
Speaker 1: story on the best public ar restrooms. I don't know
Speaker 1: where the genesis for that came. There was something Michael
Speaker 1: Clark and I cooked up, but there oh, there was
Speaker 1: kids who were there was an app, I think at
Speaker 1: the time, a new app that was a public bathroom
Speaker 1: rating system. You go into the app and you could
Speaker 1: rate public bathrooms. So I looked at the ones that
Speaker 1: were great and the ones that were not. And I
Speaker 1: went there and checked out the bathrooms, flushed the toilets,
Speaker 1: you know, all the things that you do.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to squeeze every little ounce of sound out.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, it was a winner. It was the
Speaker 3: best use of sound winner.
Speaker 1: But I went to Langers because they had a five
Speaker 1: star bathroom. And I interviewed Norm and he said, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that we have five stars because I
Speaker 1: just spent forty thousand dollars updating our bathrooms. And you know,
Speaker 1: he went through the fact that, you know, his parents
Speaker 1: got Langers or started Langers when he was a toddler.
Speaker 1: And he said in this article, you know, I grew
Speaker 1: up in MacArthur Park. He said, we go to the park,
Speaker 1: we'd go for boat rides, we'd take naps. Older people
Speaker 1: played shuffle board around there, backgammon, cards, whatever.
Speaker 4: Naps, naps. You were comfortable enough as a kid you
Speaker 4: could take a nap.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine that when I was a kid, I
Speaker 1: was comfortable enough to take a nap, like under the
Speaker 1: sun and the grass of whatever parks we grew up around,
Speaker 1: Like that was an awesome feeling. I can't imagine feeling
Speaker 1: like I want to take a nap in a public
Speaker 1: park anywhere. Yeah, Ever, that would be something that would
Speaker 1: not even cross my mind to say, like, hey, let's
Speaker 1: grab a blanket and let's go.
Speaker 3: You know, like you go to the beach and you
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 4: You go hang out, but you would never be that
Speaker 4: relaxed where you felt like you could take a name.
Speaker 1: No, people would come and steal all your stuff. They'd
Speaker 1: kill you, they'd rob you.
Speaker 2: And that's just the beginning.
Speaker 4: This is This is interesting because Steve Lopez writes, restaurants
Speaker 4: come and go, but this wouldn't be just any business
Speaker 4: going dark. Langers has been in La longer than the Dodgers,
Speaker 4: longer than the Lakers. He describes it as an anchor
Speaker 4: and institution and as a touchstone. But Langer says he's
Speaker 4: tired of pushing the cart up the hill, of trying
Speaker 4: to get city officials to clean up the streets, to
Speaker 4: restore public safety, to make MacArthur Park MacArthur Park again,
Speaker 4: MPAGA make MacArthur Park great again rather than a place
Speaker 4: to avoid I screwed up the lettering. Just listen, it's
Speaker 4: still got some safe areas. If you keep your you
Speaker 4: know wits about you, it's probably going to be fine
Speaker 4: for you to spend an hour or two in the
Speaker 4: park there and not get robbed or killed or both.
Speaker 1: So City Hall does have a big change in mind
Speaker 1: for the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Remember we told you about this.
Speaker 1: They have this proposal they announced last month to close
Speaker 1: Wilshire Boulevard where it passes through MacArthur Park, span the
Speaker 1: open spaces. But that's just expanding the problem of the
Speaker 1: open drug market and crime.
Speaker 3: It's a joke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those things we talked about it
Speaker 4: when we first saw that story. You want to then
Speaker 4: take even fewer You want to make it harder for
Speaker 4: people to go through there, which is I understand why.
Speaker 4: I mean the idea that this is going to be
Speaker 4: now an open space and it's a safer place. All
Speaker 4: you do is invite more people to set up camp there.
Speaker 4: And I don't just mean housing enthused, no housing challenged.
Speaker 4: Is that what we're saying, Whatever it is, homeless people.
Speaker 3: It's not about housing.
Speaker 1: It's about the drugs and the addiction and the mental
Speaker 1: illness that goes unchecked. That's what it's about. I love
Speaker 1: this quote here. Norm Langer said every man needs two things.
Speaker 1: He needs a place to go when he gets up
Speaker 1: in the morning, and he needs people who are dependent
Speaker 1: on him. He said, I had lung cancer five times.
Speaker 1: I've had the tops of both lungs removed. I've had
Speaker 1: prostate cancer. I've had forty five radiation treatments. I've had
Speaker 1: both knees replaced. But I'm here. I should be laying
Speaker 1: down somewhere, but I'm not. Why Because I have a
Speaker 1: place to go and I have people here who need me.
Speaker 2: That's great. That's a great quote, isn't it. That's so true.
Speaker 2: It's got to go up in the.
Speaker 1: This is why I wanted to get the Hamster, because
Speaker 1: it would be dependent on me.
Speaker 2: Ah well, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 5: I don't blame Langer's Deli for moving or leaving.
Speaker 2: Took my family there last month.
Speaker 5: It was like Zombieville. Yeah, getting into the restaurant and
Speaker 5: out of the restaurant, parked in that little parking lot
Speaker 5: that they have for their restaurant. That area has just
Speaker 5: gone downhill prior to that visit.
Speaker 2: We actually went during COVID.
Speaker 4: And yeah, thirty seconds. We only have thirty seconds. That's sorry, Sorry,
Speaker 4: got cut off. There's some good news fire wise in
Speaker 4: the state of California. For one thing, that Park fire
Speaker 4: burning up near Chico and places north of there finally contained,
Speaker 4: not out, but it's not spreading. That And Steve Gregory's
Speaker 4: going to join us in a few minutes and talk
Speaker 4: about some of the new resources that are available to
Speaker 4: the firefighter.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 1: Man, I burned through all that fire country, all those
Speaker 1: episodes on my flight back. Oh it's one of those
Speaker 1: just Virgin River, dumb feel good stories.
Speaker 4: But with fire, but with fire. Steve Gregory has joined us.
Speaker 4: One of the big news items, and I mentioned this
Speaker 4: before the top of the hour, is that the Park fire,
Speaker 4: the one that's burning up near northern your Chico in
Speaker 4: northern California, peaked out at about four hundred and twenty
Speaker 4: nine thousand acres and is now one hundred percent contained.
Speaker 4: There were thousands of crews that were working on that
Speaker 4: on that fire over the course of the last month
Speaker 4: and a half or so, so that's great news. Doesn't
Speaker 4: necessarily mean it stopped burning, but it is contained. They
Speaker 4: have fire line built around all of it. So that's
Speaker 4: what one hundred percent containment thing is. The other news
Speaker 4: that Steve Gregory has been following is some new resources
Speaker 4: that are going to be available to firefights.
Speaker 3: Love seeing the C one thirty air tanker.
Speaker 6: What is it about aircraft that we just all just
Speaker 6: got at?
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. It's our lizard brain.
Speaker 2: It is. We're like, oh my god, it flies, It's
Speaker 2: so cool.
Speaker 4: Well, not only that, when I've seen them at work,
Speaker 4: it is it is.
Speaker 2: I guess what do you mean you've seen them at work.
Speaker 3: When we're covering fires?
Speaker 2: Oh that you meant like when you were sitting at work? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I mean I when I see them working. How's that?
Speaker 2: Not when I'm working?
Speaker 4: When I see them working thirty or the decent it is,
Speaker 4: it's proof that the powers that be are throwing whatever
Speaker 4: they can at whatever this fire is to try to
Speaker 4: prevent it from getting out of it.
Speaker 3: It's nice to see a bureaucracy that works.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it feels like that when you're
Speaker 1: in the fire service, but for a civilian. It's nice
Speaker 1: to see people be efficient and functioning the way that
Speaker 1: they should be functioning in terms of putting out fires.
Speaker 6: Well, you know when we let's go back to twenty
Speaker 6: twenty pandemic time and remember we were all here together.
Speaker 2: It was just a small group of us and we
Speaker 2: got a ham Yeah, I do remember that.
Speaker 3: And you ripped it apart with your bare hands, and
Speaker 3: then we ate.
Speaker 2: It very manly, very manly.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: It was very manhammy.
Speaker 6: But one of the things I kept talking about to
Speaker 6: your point is that the politician should have stepped aside
Speaker 6: during COVID and let the fire department, fire service come
Speaker 6: in and handle it. Yeah, because they know how to
Speaker 6: take care of crises. I mean they are experts at
Speaker 6: this fire service, police service, all first responders. And in
Speaker 6: this case, the C one thirty is one of seven
Speaker 6: that will be delivered to California courtesy of the US
Speaker 6: Coast Guard over the next few years. Today the first
Speaker 6: one thirty Hercules went into service. It will be based
Speaker 6: in Sacramento, and it has the capability or the ability
Speaker 6: to carry four thousand gallons of fire retardant or water
Speaker 6: and can be mobilized and airborne in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: It's impressive.
Speaker 4: So it's just going to be a tanker. I mean yes,
Speaker 4: because I know that that what do you call it?
Speaker 2: That airframe has all kinds of different connection.
Speaker 6: Configuration, right, and so the Coast Guard had it configured
Speaker 6: for cargo, and so they redid it so that it
Speaker 6: could could take on a tank much like those chinooks
Speaker 6: that you see that the Colson has a helicopters, the
Speaker 6: big double rotor helic coptor chotes. Those are configured where
Speaker 6: you can remove the tank with in just under. Now
Speaker 6: you can move the tank in hull you know, people
Speaker 6: or supplies, and the same hold is true for this one.
Speaker 6: It's going to be primarily designed for water dropping because
Speaker 6: the National Guard already has C one thirties to transport
Speaker 6: troops or people or firefighters or whatever the case is,
Speaker 6: and and CalFire has other means to do that. So
Speaker 6: this is primarily a fire attack apparatus.
Speaker 4: Is the Coastguard just are they getting new ones and
Speaker 4: they're giving us their old ones or what?
Speaker 6: It's a surplus situation through the US Defense Act. It
Speaker 6: was pastor assigned in the lock. I believe it was
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 6: It's like a federal age, a federal aid package where
Speaker 6: they took old military surplus and they're re vamping them
Speaker 6: and retrofitting them for fire use and for other safety features.
Speaker 6: And in this particular case, California really uh really uh
Speaker 6: you know, the won the lottery on this one, getting
Speaker 6: seven of these over the next couple of years and
Speaker 6: then and they'll be stationed all throughout the state so
Speaker 6: that they can be used where they think strategically those
Speaker 6: kinds of equipment should be should be stationed.
Speaker 4: My assumption, we talk about the super Scoopers that come
Speaker 4: in out of Canada every fire season, right, we watch
Speaker 4: them as they come in, We see them in action
Speaker 4: when we're when they're working, not when we're working, but
Speaker 4: when they're working. These are going to be permanently part
Speaker 4: of California. Specifical Firefires owns the arsenal. Yes, CalFire owns them.
Speaker 4: It is part of it, which is also the world's
Speaker 4: largest collection of firefighting aircraft, and CalFire has the world's
Speaker 4: largest collection airfire, airfire, air firefighting airpower. Sorry, you haven't
Speaker 4: hour this morning. You haven't been in front of us
Speaker 4: for a week. I mean it's probably.
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm a little bothered, be nervous.
Speaker 4: Did you get your email today about the I'm in
Speaker 4: the middle of it right now, are you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It's like first thing when you open it says hello,
Speaker 6: Steve Gregory, this is to let you know that California
Speaker 6: anti harassment training has been added to your learning profile.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: That's the way it started my day.
Speaker 3: It makes me want to harass everybody I see.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm glad you got it. Can I
Speaker 2: give you an example?
Speaker 4: Sure, you must come up with a strategy to improve
Speaker 4: the quality of your work and help our team identify
Speaker 4: new business opportunities. That's what Janet says to me. That's
Speaker 4: an anti harassment No, so how would I classify Janet's comments?
Speaker 2: Are they appropriate or inappropriate?
Speaker 3: Inappropriate? I don't want to be asked to do more stuff?
Speaker 2: And question two is it harassing sales behavior? Right?
Speaker 3: I'm not in sales.
Speaker 4: Is that not harassing behavior? It's not harassing behavior. Oh gosh,
Speaker 4: I got those wrong. It's so hard to figure out this.
Speaker 2: Well, it is harassed.
Speaker 6: It isn't harassment for the sake of the test, but
Speaker 6: it is harassment here at this company to.
Speaker 4: Ask somebody to actually work. Oh my god, the gall
Speaker 4: if you want to test Steve. We were in the
Speaker 4: Chicago iHeart studio was beautiful.
Speaker 1: See if you have no idea, it was gorgeous, like
Speaker 1: Michigan and Florida. Ceiling windows, free cup of noodles, free
Speaker 1: cup of noodles.
Speaker 2: In their snack room. They just have.
Speaker 4: Shelves full of stuff that you take and you open
Speaker 4: the refrigerator and there's just there's pizza.
Speaker 2: I didn't see that. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I got some ice for a whole freezer.
Speaker 1: They had pepperoni pizza, they had sausage pizza, and you.
Speaker 2: Know how much it costs. You're glad you enjoyed your
Speaker 2: work assignment. We talked about we were work, that's why working.
Speaker 3: We were not working.
Speaker 2: And then you know, so you dressed like you were
Speaker 2: driving the jungle cruise thing.
Speaker 3: It was kind of funny.
Speaker 1: There was another show that was next to our show
Speaker 1: for the week, and I was making fun of them
Speaker 1: the whole time because they looked like they were actually
Speaker 1: like seriously worked, like they were pretending.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was. I'm like, we do the.
Speaker 1: Same thing you do, but you make it seem like
Speaker 1: it's so much more complicated, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3: What is this pre show meeting?
Speaker 6: We know what is this that's called commune vacation, But
Speaker 6: what is this thing.
Speaker 1: Where you're in the breaks and you're talking about what
Speaker 1: you want to do next?
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's just do we just have it easy?
Speaker 1: Our other shows just not as as easy as well.
Speaker 6: What you have to ask is how do how do
Speaker 6: they do in the numbers? I mean are they does
Speaker 6: all the work pay off? Or maybe does all the
Speaker 6: work pay off? Or does it just what is I
Speaker 6: mean you.
Speaker 2: Got to where where are they from? Other? Other places?
Speaker 3: Other places?
Speaker 6: What do you mean other places in our company or
Speaker 6: just another company?
Speaker 4: Well, in some cases in our company, Well syndicated show.
Speaker 1: It is a syndicated show, so maybe the work does
Speaker 1: lead to well syndicated show.
Speaker 6: That's a lot of that's a lot of responsible kind
Speaker 6: of numbers. Well, if it's syndicated, I mean presumably is
Speaker 6: more than.
Speaker 1: Two stages, right, So do you think Gary and I
Speaker 1: should do more work? Then, like we should answer carefully
Speaker 1: make this into a job.
Speaker 2: Isn't it time for break? What are you still doing? Money?
Speaker 2: In there?
Speaker 6: I was never told I was done? Are you Are
Speaker 6: you done with me? Or do you want to talk
Speaker 6: about something else?
Speaker 3: Let's talk about something mouse? What else do you got?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 6: I want to I want to know if it's true
Speaker 6: what that guy said on the air about you guys.
Speaker 6: Were you day drinking? We're in Chicago? What's the definition?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is the definition?
Speaker 4: Does that because I'm two hours we're two hours ahead
Speaker 4: of anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to get defensive. I just asked
Speaker 2: the question.
Speaker 1: What is I think our first cocktail was at like
Speaker 1: six pm for Chicago time, right, right, We're not like
Speaker 1: sitting at the convention drinking.
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 3: Trust me.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a thing where you're like I could those
Speaker 1: who would be fun with drinks, A bunch of people
Speaker 1: who love politics walking around in their Trust Women shirts.
Speaker 4: Like I feel like that would have been bad for
Speaker 4: them if we started drinking and hackling people as they're
Speaker 4: walking by.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like when we went to the ball game,
Speaker 1: or like, let's get drinks immediately because it's fun and
Speaker 1: we're at a ball Okay.
Speaker 2: Let's scratch that question forget. I asked it.
Speaker 1: It was like diet coke give me all the diet
Speaker 1: coke so I can get through.
Speaker 6: This, Maden, Well, I just what I'm going to ask
Speaker 6: you is I've never been to one of those, and
Speaker 6: I don't have any desire to do that.
Speaker 2: Was it as chaotic and crazy as it looked?
Speaker 4: Well, so we got there early enough that we were
Speaker 4: there sort of in the quiet times, but by the
Speaker 4: time we left at the end of our show is
Speaker 4: when the thousands of delegates and hangers on were coming
Speaker 4: into the arena for the nights you know.
Speaker 2: Here it's progress. It was two hours ahead, right, yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I would.
Speaker 1: Say out of all three conventions, I think Cleveland was
Speaker 1: the one where it felt a little chaotic. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's just because it was the first one we covered,
Speaker 1: but also they had that pedestrian walkway and all the
Speaker 1: security and all those threats and kind of more of
Speaker 1: a of a vibe right out of the stadium with
Speaker 1: restaurants and things like that.
Speaker 4: It felt I would say Cleveland felt more threatening than
Speaker 4: any of the others. Noah, even though well because we
Speaker 4: were for example, as we would leave the arena one day,
Speaker 4: you kind of walk down this long alleyway and there's
Speaker 4: some businesses and restaurants on both sides. We stopped in
Speaker 4: one that it was the Cleveland Store or some sort
Speaker 4: of you know, tourism catch and but the street out
Speaker 4: in front was immediately filled with people who were protesting,
Speaker 4: and that was the That was really the only time.
Speaker 6: You can get a glimpse of any of the protesters
Speaker 6: on this one. Yes, yeah, but it was the first day.
Speaker 6: And that's the thing about it that it was not
Speaker 6: a it never turned into a threatening event, and that
Speaker 6: the protests that were there in Chicago were clearly handled
Speaker 6: by Chicago PD.
Speaker 1: That whole storyline was such a media driven one. It
Speaker 1: always has been, ever since the pro Palestinian protests have
Speaker 1: popped up. It's been the media that's been driving this
Speaker 1: thing and making it bigger.
Speaker 6: Be I like the story that we'd get here that
Speaker 6: said man caught with gun three miles from the really
Speaker 6: miles away and.
Speaker 1: At the point there was a guy barricaded around theresant,
Speaker 1: and Oscar was like, oh, there's a barricaded guy. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: that's a Tuesday in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Nobody cares.
Speaker 4: The amount of security that was available or was visible,
Speaker 4: I should say, throughout downtown Chicago was amazing, Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 3: It felt very safe.
Speaker 2: Did you have any security, Did you have any personal.
Speaker 3: He kept saying that we should have security.
Speaker 2: He was, Well, it was.
Speaker 4: It was kind of nice because as from our vantage
Speaker 4: point in the arena or from in the concourse, basically
Speaker 4: a lot of people had to walk right past us
Speaker 4: to get to their CNN interview or whatever they were
Speaker 4: going to do. So there would be some politicians, some
Speaker 4: high end politicians, a high end being famous, not necessarily
Speaker 4: they're good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You had people like Senator Ben Carden who come in,
Speaker 4: who came in nobody knew who he was, and he
Speaker 4: had one person with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then you had Nancy Pelosi come in and she
Speaker 4: had six security people on top of the eight or
Speaker 4: ten staffers thing in with her. So that group, that
Speaker 4: huddle would make its way through.
Speaker 1: On my flight to Dallas after the convention, I sat
Speaker 1: with two guys who do private security, and they were
Speaker 1: there to be body people for media types, a couple
Speaker 1: of media people.
Speaker 2: I saw that a couple of times.
Speaker 6: Yeah, who was your biggest get? Because I couldn't listen
Speaker 6: every day, but who was your biggest get? The biggest get?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: We did have one of the presidential candidates. I liked
Speaker 4: Dean Phillips. Dean Phillips, No, I would agree with that.
Speaker 4: He was the surprise Cornell West doctor Cornell West was
Speaker 4: probably he.
Speaker 3: Got us high.
Speaker 2: I heard right.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, viaa Gosa got us.
Speaker 2: We literally, y I remember him with you years ago.
Speaker 2: I remember his little thing with you. What little thing,
Speaker 2: a little crush on you? Oh stop it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he literally ran into us as we were entering
Speaker 4: the arena and he was leaving. Yeah, and you remember
Speaker 4: you then turn around and walked back with us to
Speaker 4: go do that.
Speaker 1: In so he so he's yeah, he walked back into
Speaker 1: the place like he was done for And so he
Speaker 1: wanted a microphone, you know, he wanted to do an interview,
Speaker 1: and he said he was all pissed off because whoever
Speaker 1: had booked him before we talked to him, they only
Speaker 1: the interview was two minutes long. So he got ready
Speaker 1: at the hotel, went through the rigmarole of going through
Speaker 1: security getting to the arena, and they only kept him
Speaker 1: for two minutes. So he was happy to sit down
Speaker 1: with us for as long as we wanted, and he
Speaker 1: was he was actually really well focused and thought out.
Speaker 1: I've never seen him like that before. I've never heard
Speaker 1: he's had a lot of time practice. I figured out
Speaker 1: it was when he was may or. He was caught
Speaker 1: up on it, right, You covered him too, He was
Speaker 1: all caught up in it.
Speaker 2: He was never hit on me.
Speaker 1: He was caught up in the celebrity of it and
Speaker 1: just never really focused. And now nobody's paying attention to
Speaker 1: him really as he runs for governor, and so he
Speaker 1: was hyper focused in that interview, and he sounded intelligent
Speaker 1: for the first time.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think.
Speaker 6: He's had a lot of time to reflect, a lot
Speaker 6: of time to reassemble. Yeah, you know who else is
Speaker 6: going to run for governor?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 4: Elandy coon Ilacus, Tony Thurman. Who's Tony THURMANU.
Speaker 2: Lan that you're just making stuff up?
Speaker 1: Look at you, California Politico is the lieutenant governor right now.
Speaker 2: I'm just super.
Speaker 6: You don't remember when mayor of Vierorgosi used to flirt
Speaker 6: with you?
Speaker 2: No, yes, he did, you know. Yeah, but you make
Speaker 2: it sound like she was the only one and not
Speaker 2: to well say that I can deserve it.
Speaker 6: But thank god that she never fell to that trap,
Speaker 6: because she'd be the one that was caught climbing over
Speaker 6: the fence out of the mayor's mansion late at night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, norap, not a trap.
Speaker 2: It's a trap. It's a trap. Great to see you,
Speaker 2: Welcome back to you kids.
Speaker 1: You know what, though, there was one story that came
Speaker 1: out of his affair with the woman from Univision, and
Speaker 1: it was when he was caught in the lobby of
Speaker 1: her building with Chinese food. And I remember thinking that
Speaker 1: sounds really good, like that's nice that he brought her
Speaker 1: Chinese food.
Speaker 3: Oh, I would like someone to bring me Chinese food.
Speaker 2: I think what that whole time was hilarious? Was it
Speaker 2: wasn't that hilarious? Remember sis? Yes, she went.
Speaker 1: On the air to announce his divorce when he was
Speaker 1: they were banging.
Speaker 3: And then what a mess? I asked.
Speaker 1: I did ask him off the air, I go, who
Speaker 1: are you dating? And he goes, he goes, I am
Speaker 1: dating somebody, and he goes, but I'm just dating the one.
Speaker 3: I'm just dating the one.
Speaker 1: And I said to him, why make one miserable in
Speaker 1: the media?
Speaker 2: Is it still an anchor or reporter? I did ask, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we have to figure out if he's at the.
Speaker 3: Man's seventy one years old.
Speaker 2: You know, he's seventy one. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Wow, I guess I didn't realize that. It seemed like
Speaker 6: a lifetime ago we were covering him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just kids. Yeah, you were. You've been
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