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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to a new episode of

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the Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. His

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name is Tim Duckworth. And as you guys can tell,

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it is the end, the end of it all. We

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are out here in the middle of the floor in

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the Horseshoe Events Center. We still haven't found a better

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name for it. Shout out to that that Twitter user

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who I just haven't been feeling it with the nicknames

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for this run yet.

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Speaker 2: Not yet, not yet.

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Speaker 1: We have a champion. It is Michael the Grinder, Miss

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Rocky Grind, Grind Grinder in in absolutely unbelievable final table,

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in unbelievable run to the winner circle, the stuff that

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like I feel like, I feel like. The script writers

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were out for this one writing the script of this

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WSP Maine event, especially the last few days and extra

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especially the final table with the way that this played

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out over the last few days with the Grinder ever

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since he got down to three big lines, the run

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to the to the winner circle, to the ten million

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dollars to his eighth WSOP Gold bracelet, like just the

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stuff of legend. You guys wouldn't believe it if you

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didn't watch it. Hopefully you did watch it, because it

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was absolutely positively one for the age is one we will.

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I don't think we're ever gonna forget it, honestly, if

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we're always gonna look back on the twenty twenty five

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main event and be like, you remember that time when

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and then there's like eighteen different moments that we can

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list you remember that time when this happened. You remember

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that when this happened, Like you know, just so many crazy,

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crazy things, you know, you and I feel extremely grateful,

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extremely blessed to be able to be here. We did

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this podcast every single day. Shout out to you, buddy,

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the only be hanging high fives. Let's go just an

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absolutely incredible summer, or of course, gonna break down the

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entire final day of the Final Table. If you missed

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the first part, go back to the last episode whether

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you're listening or watching on YouTube and check that out,

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because that took us from nine players down to four.

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Here we're going from four down to the winner. And

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quite honestly, this podcast might last longer than the final day, a.

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Speaker 3: Last than the final day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Grinder joked, what's it gonna take the closest

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thing out tomorrow an hour. I think total time was

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around fifty six minutes, but like actual playtime if you

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cut out like the breakdesk stuff, the pregame stuff was

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around forty forty five minutes or so. Yeah, I mean,

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just you wouldn't believe it if I told you. We're

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gonna tell you, but you might not believe it. So

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just holy hell, absolutely holy hell. Of course, before we

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went through some of them from the last episode when

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we ask people to like rank all the people that

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they thought or are the players that they thought would win,

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you know, went through a lot of that stuff. Tim

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and I are often in there responding to the comments.

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We love to hear them, good or bad. Even if

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you want to talk shit, come and talk shit. We'll

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talk We'll talk shit, okay. Like, just know that if

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you do talk shit in the comments, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So just just absolutely great stuff from all the new

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first time all summer long that we have done this

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on video. So it is a pleasure to meet all

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a video format for many, many many months to come.

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has his his custom avatar yet. Well you know, I'm

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got to get into it. Michael the Grinder, Miss Rocky

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the EFN Grinder does the farthest thing from grinding, yeah,

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but gets it done, gets it done absolutely wild stuff.

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So we come back today. He's got seventy six percent

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of the chips in play, four hundred and forty four

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and a half million. There's five hundred and eighty four

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point five million in play, seventy six percent of the

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chips and play. Kenny Howard's pretty short to start. He

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got eight big blinds. Braxin's on the way, isn't too

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far ahead of him. He's got ten big blinds, and

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then John Wosnock had like thirty seven or thirty eight,

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something like that. You know, we talked about yesterday, how Ellie.

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I felt if there was some close spots early, maybe

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Kenny passes on them. He takes the ICM approach. Well,

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he was dell Ace queen off on the first no,

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so he goes all in. Grinder with the tight squeeze

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from the big blind, peels king jack of Diamond's boom.

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Here we go, makes the call, first first pitch of

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the deck, and we're just off with an all in.

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Of course, it comes all spades, nobody hits, No one's

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got a spade, just the jack of clubs on the turn.

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Of course, as if Grinder was not going to hit this.

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I swear this guy hasn't lost it all in in

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twelve days. Yeah, I mean, he should take this ten

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million dollars and go spend the entire thing on powerball,

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because I'm like ninety five percent certain he would win. Well,

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look up the powerball jackpot right now, you're you're the

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money guy.

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Speaker 4: Look, okay, I might be the money guy, but I

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do not condone power.

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Speaker 1: Jack Yes, okay, but you do condone pressing your luck

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when you're as hot as Grinder is. I know you do.

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Speaker 3: Come on, estimated jackpot two hundred and sixty million.

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Speaker 1: That's twenty six x that right now? You know he

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would win, you know he could. You could you imagine

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the story.

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Speaker 3: It would be the best story ever.

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Speaker 1: This has already been the best story ever.

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Speaker 3: Okay, should spend fifty k on tickets?

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Speaker 1: I mean she should. He's just been five hundred can tickets.

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Why not just fifty You know what, Actually, with the

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way he's running, he could spend one dollar. You spend

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one He's just gonna win. It's just gonna win. Just

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simply incredible stuff. So yeah, first hand, we lose Kenny Holler.

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He takes home three million dollars. Kenny Holler has had

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an absolutely incredible run over the years, and let it

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be main Event. I know we all like I think

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Paul Vopie has the nickname main Event. I mean, I'm sorry,

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like I'm starting to think Kenny Hollard needs the nickname

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main Event. He's made the found table twice, He's had

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many other deep runs. I mean, the guy just basically

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it's like every year or every other year, he's like,

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you know.

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Speaker 3: What, one more and he can have it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm gonna be a little yeah, I guy, just

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give that away. I mean a big nickname, of course.

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I'm sure if you're Kenny, you're a little bit bummed

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to go. You get out all in with the best hand.

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He's Queen versus King Jack. But all things considered, you

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turn ten k into three million dollars your second run

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of it here. Last time he was at the WSP

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Man Event Final table, he finished in sixth place, and

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so here doing a bit better for himself, and like

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I said, three million dollars richer. And then we didn't

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have to wait long. The next hand, yeap Braxton Dunaway.

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So John Wasnock folds the button, Michael m Isrocky Jams

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from the Small Blind, and I think Braxton Dunaway had

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ten big blinds to start the hand. So he's got

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nine big blinds because he posted the big blind nanty

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and he calls all in with ten six suited Grinder's

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got a ten of diamonds. This is the wildest call

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I've ever seen. Like, I can't I don't know what happened.

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I honestly don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 4: I spoke to Braxton Stot of Play and he was like,

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you know, this is gonna be tough spot for me

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and Kenny, and you know, we were talking a little

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bit about parking. I was like, yeah, whoever is out,

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who whoever gets the third to the final three, he's

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going to feel so much relief and like basically be

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free rolling. And Braxson was like, yeah, you know, you're right,

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that's just the goal. We'll get to three and then

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you make that million dollar page jump and then anything goes.

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My guess is he got to that. He's looking up

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at this giant everest of a chip stack that Michael

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Msrahi has and goes, you know what, if I have

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any chance of winning, I need to turn this nine

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big blinds, you know, to twenty to forty eighty and

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start chipping away at miss road I have any chance,

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and he's you know what, it might not be a

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gto optimal at all, but I think that's what it is.

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I think it's just a little bit of a gamble.

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Try and take nine bigs off off the chip leader

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and close that gap a little bit with John Waznak,

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and hopefully.

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Speaker 3: It's his turn.

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Speaker 4: He said to me this twenty you know, I ran

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like shit yesterday. I hope today I ran like I

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hope today. I run like the sun from the start.

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And that's what he's maybe trying to do there with

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the ten six of hearts.

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Speaker 1: I understand running like the sun and Era wanting to

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run like the sun. I think we all want to

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run like the sun. You still have to make good decisions.

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I'm sorry. I mean, this is just when Nick Shulman,

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who's the classiest individual in the booth, you know, tries

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to keep it as buttoned up as possible, doesn't really

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go in on players when he says, I really don't

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like that. You know, it's god awfully bad, Like I mean,

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it's I think I personally think ten nine suited would

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be hard to pull the trigger, just because, again, you

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make so much money all the time by folding, and

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he did.

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Speaker 3: He might he folded the first hand right.

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Speaker 1: Standing, he folded the first hand, but still like, you

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can't find a better hand in the next two hands

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than ten six suited and worst case scenario, maybe you

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end up in the big blind again. I mean, I

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think in this tournament you can get down to six

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big blinds, seven big blinds and still be okay.

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Speaker 4: I was down a season off bigs. I know he's

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going to have seven, and how big blinds? You know

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obviously he is. It's three handed, so you've heavily reliant

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on on the deck hitting you and getting something worth

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you know, something a little stronger than the ten six I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, facing a two million dollar page in between third

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and second, I think that I personally would have just

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tried to fold as much as I needed to with

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the hopes that wasnock and Miss Rocky just went ballistic,

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which I think could certainly happen. I mean, we know

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the Miss.

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Speaker 3: Rocky's is going to do was stop the day with

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how many bigs? I think thirty eight thirty eight? So yeah,

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so still an hood climb to of a take care.

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Speaker 1: Look, yeah, but what if you see something similar to

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what we saw on the first day of the final

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table Wasnock picks up a big hand Queen's Miss Rocky

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picks up a big hand Ace King, and they just

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get all the money in. Now, it maybe takes a

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little bit less than that. You know, one guy gets

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ace Queen, the other guy's got two sevens, and they

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just go nuts. Like I don't know, like that could happen.

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And if that's the case and the guy goes out,

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I'm sitting there collecting a two million dollar page up.

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I mean I would try and approach it like way

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back when shout out Jonathan Duhommel's banner over there, when

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John Rister was just sitting on the sidelines and Joseph

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Chong just decided to go nuts. I mean, you never know,

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you never know, and like.

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Speaker 3: The ten six is not ideal, But I ain't found

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on the ice Queen or the.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, I'm not saying full of the East Queen,

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of course, like I'm not saying like full just fold

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good hands. But like this just seemed like he just

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he locked up that million dollar page up and said

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fuck it, I'm going forward with. I mean, maybe part

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of me wants to respect, but the poker player in

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me says, what in the holy hell just happened? That said,

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you know, Braxton's gone away four million dollars richer, so

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he gambled it up. But I also I also thought that, like,

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I don't think Braxton Dunaway is I don't think he's

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a like a theory guy. I think he's more of

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like a live player, a field player. That's just my

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my reader understanding of him. So you know, he decided

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to gamble it up in that spot and it ultimately

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didn't work, and you know, maybe it costs him, maybe

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it didn't like maybe he goes on third anyway, right,

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But I mean it's certainly being well talked about. And

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I don't think we got a bust out interview with him,

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because I would have liked to hear somebody ask him,

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you know, hey, like, what what was the thought process

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with calling all in with ten six suited there? I

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mean it just seems I mean, we know Grinder's grinder,

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and he can, I mean Grinder can jam five to

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six suited, but I mean ten six suited is a reach.

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It's definitely a reach. So but either way, very very

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very good run from Braxton dunaway. He gets four million

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dollars for his third place finish. Of course Michael mcrocky

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with that ace ten did take him out. He ended

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up making a flush on the river, I think is

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how it finished. But when that money went in, it

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was funny because Ms Rocky sees the hands and immediately

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starts celebrating like he just like he like he won

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the hand. Yeah, obviously he sees the hands turned over

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and he has him you know, crushed, but he still

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is like he's celebrated. I mean, the celebrations from his

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Rocky even start to finishing this thing where it's just

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just absolutely wild. So then we take a break. Of

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course they bring up all the money, they do the

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whole thing. We get the heads up play and it's

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it's a pretty big gap overall. I mean, walls nuts

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got around like ninety million basically like what he started

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with because he didn't play any hands. It was just

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boom boom, and what heads up Ms Rocky's got. You know,

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he's pushing what five hundred million at this point, and

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the whole thing is just wild. So now we're thinking,

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I mean, what are you thinking? At this point? This

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is gonna be over in three hands.

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Speaker 4: To be honest, I'm praying it goes for several more hours,

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you know, like I wanted to be an event. You know,

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we don't really want this over in three four, five hands.

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We want to show we want to see these guys battle. Obviously,

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the result is whoever's anyone cheering for. But that's the

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only thing I really I just didn't want to see

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it end within like ten to fifteen minutes. So when

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it started, and you know, a couple of us went

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to grind a straight away as like, God, here would go.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna wear him down and take him out.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm kind of like you. I mean, I

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don't know how long I wanted to last. I just wanted.

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I wanted was not to like make it a match

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like maybe get one, double up, maybe pull even. Part

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of why I wanted that is I wanted to see

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how Grinder would possibly respond to some sort of adversity,

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because everything up until this point has just been all Grinder. Like,

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whatever needed to happen to fall in Grinder's favor, it happened, right,

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you know. Like obviously that ace on the river on

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day one of the Final Table was enormous, but so

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many other things just happened to work out for him.

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His bluffs work. You know, he got paid off when

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he needed to, like all this crazy stuff. So you know,

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then you know he busts those two people. Things are

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going more in Grinders away. So I just wanted to

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see him like start making it a match. Maybe he

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gets up to like two hundred million. Yeah, Grinders still

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got a healthy chip lead. But like then it's kind

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of like, oh, like, oh, is Grinder going to lose this?

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Is he going to lose this? You know, is he

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possibly feeling the pressure a little bit or is it

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starting to build? And you know How's was not feeling

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but you know, I know wasnot got up over one

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hundred million, a little bit over one hundred million, but

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he I mean he never really he never really got

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close even like.

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Speaker 4: A couple of steps forward, a couple of back, couple

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steps a couple back.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't really get that kind of run on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it really was just Grinders. Yeah, tournament. I mean, like,

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I don't know what to say. It was interesting to

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see wa Wasnock start talking to Grinder a little bit

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mm hmm. You know, he was talking to him in

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some of the some of the hands, which which I

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thought was a little bit interesting because I feel like.

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Speaker 3: That at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you haven't seen it. And also if anyone's able

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to like read you, I feel like Grinder is one

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of the best at it in the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably not the guy you want to chat to.

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Speaker 1: Like, you know, you don't want to chat to Dan Legrand,

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who you probably don't want to check to Phil Ivy.

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Probably Grinder is like up there in that crowd, like

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you don't want to start, like, especially.

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Speaker 4: On this run, and he's been on where everything is

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going his way, like literally he can't do no wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he can't. Yeah, don't give him any added help. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So then the final hand comes up, and the final

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hand comes up, I think about forty to forty five

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minutes of actual playtime, and this final hand, I mean

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it had it had everything in one hand. So I'm

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not even sure I know where to begin with this hand.

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I mean, obviously you got to begin on the turn.

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So it goes check check on the flop. The club

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comes in on the turn to give Grinder the flush.

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He checks wasna finally bets his top top two pair.

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Now the first crazy part Grinder starts pumping up the

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crowd before he raises he's going. He's like going like

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this to the crowd to get them amped up, and

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then goes thirty million.

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Speaker 3: Does this one like this it's for the lost feed ice, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, like he did in the Hand with Kenny Hollard

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on the first day of the Like it's just like

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mid hand, the biggest stage of poker, and this guy

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is like just acting like a complete I say this

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in a in a totally endearing way, acting like a fool,

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but in a really good.

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Speaker 4: Photos very entertaining. It wasn't like it all insulting. I

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didn't think it was pure entertainment.

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Speaker 1: So like he pumped up the crowd and they start

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yelling and like you can barely hear him say thirty million,

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and then Wasnock snap jams. Grinder calls it off. Of course,

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then it gets even crazier, as if you don't think

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it stops there. Grinder thinks that he needs to fade

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a club. I think he saw the black Yeah from

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from was Knock. He thinks he needs the FATA club,

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so he starts yelling to his rail that he needs

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the fan of club. He's like no club, no club,

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no club, which is not true.

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Speaker 3: That's not true.

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Speaker 1: Then he comes like back to the table kind of

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and he's like he's like, oh, oh.

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Speaker 2: I won, I won.

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Speaker 1: He's like going like it's over, it's over, it's over.

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He's yelling to his rail that it's over. He starts

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putting his hands in the air like the whole thing,

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and we're all like, dude.

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Speaker 4: I think there's pictures of his mom in the background

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going like this. We think we have picture of him.

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Say no, no, no, you're wrong. That's not right, that's

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not right.

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Speaker 1: Shulan's on the broadcast going Mikey, Mikey, wait a minute,

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it's everybody relaxed, Like I think, Shulan says, like, did

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we misread the board? So there's this whole thing where

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he first he thinks he needs to fait a club,

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which is not true. Then he thinks he's won it,

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which is also not true. So then he comes back

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and like you and I have been in poker, like

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you almost feel like you've seen it where people prematurely celebrate, yeah,

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and it just it's a disaster for them. But it's

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grinders turn this tournament. So obviously wallsnak does not fill up.

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It's over. Then you get his brothers hopping over the rail.

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You get blessed it coming out of like the wherever

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the heck he was, because he did like the little

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pregame show. He comes rushing up on the stage like

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you got all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's madness.

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Speaker 1: Then they snap and ducked him into the Hall of Fame,

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like fifteen Hall of Fame. People walk up there and

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there's like Helmut gets on this whole thing, which which

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is a phrase like I've never heard before. But he

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starts talking about what did he say? A battlefield induction.

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I don't even know what that means. I feel like

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he just made that up. Yeah, but they snap inducted me.

474
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,599
The whole thing was just.

475
00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:10,079
Speaker 4: I would like to know how that all played out,

476
00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:11,759
to be honest, Like, was that like a text chain

477
00:22:11,839 --> 00:22:14,839
between everyone that's still a round, you know, late late

478
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,200
last night, early today, just hey, what do you think

479
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,759
of this idea? And then everyone's just signing off on

480
00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:21,519
it and they're like, yeah, let's go do it.

481
00:22:21,519 --> 00:22:23,759
Speaker 1: Because we saw we saw a tweet from Helmet saying

482
00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:26,920
like you know, would it say? It said something about

483
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960
like we all agree or we're talking about it or

484
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,200
whatever like need negra on you, et cetera.

485
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,599
Speaker 4: So just just for those at home, a little bit

486
00:22:34,599 --> 00:22:37,359
of you know, behind the scenes stuff that is not

487
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,160
grind as trophy, no.

488
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,079
Speaker 1: Trophy.

489
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,039
Speaker 4: So he has been promptly returned to him already, but yeah,

490
00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:46,960
it feels like it's something that happened, you know, late

491
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,960
last night today. Hey, if this happens, you know he's eligible.

492
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,160
He's forty four. This will be his eighth bracelet for

493
00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:56,720
PPC title's main event title. What else can this guy do?

494
00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:00,519
And you know what I think this secretly does. And

495
00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,440
like I said, we'd love to find some more. You know,

496
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,240
there's a lot of chattah about changing the way the

497
00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:07,559
PPC is done, right, we need to put more people in.

498
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,480
Maybe this opens the door to changes, right.

499
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's part of me is like cool,

500
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,400
whatever put him in the Hall of Fame. I mean this,

501
00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:17,839
this feat fifty KPPC and the wasp Man event in

502
00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:20,000
the same year, plus everything else that he's done in poker.

503
00:23:20,039 --> 00:23:22,839
Of course on top of that, like, yes, the guy's

504
00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:24,880
a Hall of Famer, But it also part of me

505
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,759
is like it took a player winning the fifty KPPC

506
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,519
and the WSP main event in the same year for

507
00:23:31,599 --> 00:23:35,400
them to adjust the rules, even if temporarily. That's what

508
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,160
it took. It took this monumental accomplishment for them to

509
00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:43,079
change the rules. Yeah, when we've talked at length many

510
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,000
times about the you know, the backlog and all this

511
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:49,359
sort of stuff, and it's like, I don't know if

512
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,079
this changes things. I also don't think that, like they

513
00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:56,480
shouldn't just be like snap inducting like people for crazy

514
00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:58,920
reasons like this is this is this is like a

515
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,599
one of a kind unique thing. I get it. Yeah,

516
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,079
you know, but I'm saying, like, let's say, let's just

517
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,359
play Devil's Advocate. You know, I don't know Jeremie Osmus

518
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,279
wins two bracelets next year and then they're like, oh, okay,

519
00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:11,200
but that's what I'm But I'm just saying I'm just

520
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,480
throwing it out there, like it takes like Grinder was

521
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:17,359
going to get in likely in the future. Like even

522
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,799
if he didn't win this well with the.

523
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: With the comment system of one person, I don't think

524
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:23,759
he was at all a lock.

525
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, he has to be a lock.

526
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,279
It's anyway it was just it was just kind of

527
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:31,519
the way that it all played out, this this entire

528
00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:34,480
main event, especially these last couple of days with Grinder,

529
00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:36,240
coupled with the fact that he won that fifty k

530
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:38,839
PPC earlier in the summer, the fourth time he's won it.

531
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,480
I mean, it was honestly was kind of fitting that

532
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:43,279
they just walked up on stage and gave him the

533
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,440
damn trophy and put him into the Hall Fame right

534
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,000
then and there, like, you know what, who cares Like

535
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:53,440
part of me says, like the poker industry isn't like

536
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,039
an entirely serious, buttoned up industry. I mean that like

537
00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:59,160
in a good way, like that we're allowed to do

538
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,720
these things. So I think it was kind of cool that.

539
00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:03,839
I think it was that everyone came together in basically

540
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,519
the last twenty four hours and said, you know what,

541
00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:07,640
f it, He's going into the hall.

542
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,599
Speaker 4: I thought it was great that, you know, not everyone's

543
00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:11,599
in town, everyone's already worked their way home. You know,

544
00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:13,720
they're not here, they're not playing. But you had helm with,

545
00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:16,799
you had Jen Harmon, you had Maury. You know, obviously

546
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,079
Nick Schulman's in the booth. I saw earlier, Elezra, all these.

547
00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: David oppenheimwa if Phil Ivy went up there? He did,

548
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:23,920
John Hennigan went up there.

549
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

550
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you had all these Hall of Famers that

551
00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:28,559
we're here just like, you know what, let's make this

552
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,400
a really big moment, not just one guy going up,

553
00:25:31,559 --> 00:25:33,680
as many of us that are here playing or at

554
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,640
least in the vicinity watching, come up and do this

555
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,680
and really support Grind and really support this. Uh, you know,

556
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,079
as we keep touching on this pretty insane change to

557
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,680
the to the current Hall of Fame adding someone you know,

558
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000
very sporadically, very randomly, but I think I think we'll

559
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,720
all agree completely well deserved.

560
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just again it goes with the whole

561
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,160
the chaos of the summer and the chaos of you know,

562
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,519
Michael the Grinder, MS Rocky and everything that he achieved

563
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:02,480
this summer, meaning that like we're gonna this is one

564
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,480
of those things, as I said earlier, when we look

565
00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:06,880
back on it and let's say fifteen, twenty twenty five years,

566
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,759
whatever the heck it is, and we're gonna say, remember

567
00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:10,720
that time on Grinder to this part of that part

568
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,359
of one of those eighteen things that I say, we

569
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,200
can say about this is remember that time they all

570
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,240
walked up on stage and inducted him into the Hall

571
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,200
of Fame right then and there. Yeah, like, screw the

572
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:21,119
voting process, screw this, screw that he's in the hall. Yeah,

573
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,160
like which is which is just absolutely incredible. So I

574
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,880
don't even again, I don't really have words for everything

575
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,119
that I just witnessed. I mean, it was it was

576
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,319
simply incredible. It was simply incredible. You know from start,

577
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,640
guys and that guy's pretty incredible to everything's just incredible here.

578
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:37,960
I mean, we're right in the middle of it all.

579
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, but come on, you see camera, you see two

580
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:41,519
guys talking on a microphone.

581
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think you can really see the camera.

582
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: That he's he's half asleep. He literally won't ride here,

583
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:49,119
He's completely.

584
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:49,039
Speaker 2: Out of it.

585
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: I absolutely love it.

586
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:52,039
Speaker 3: So he picks up his table and takes it out

587
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:52,880
in the back because it was.

588
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: Where does this put grinder in terms of like the

589
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,480
legacy conversation or the legend conversation?

590
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: You know, we we we we kind of joked around

591
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:09,640
about the Mount Rushmore and you know, I kind of

592
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,200
gave you a little bit of grief for comparing him

593
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,279
to Stone called Steve Austin.

594
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:17,279
Speaker 1: But I mean, by the way, I plugged and he

595
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,599
told me grinder was stone called Steve Austin.

596
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,319
Speaker 3: So if chat GPT thinks I mean it, God be true.

597
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,759
Speaker 1: But look, by the way, this is gonna be a

598
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:28,920
future podcast. I thought about it because we're gon we're

599
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,960
gonna be coming up on some downtime and we're gonna

600
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,160
need some fillers, and we're gonna do a whole list

601
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,440
of like these are the top twenty poker players and

602
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,640
this is their wrestling.

603
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,799
Speaker 3: You compared to football, compared to every sport.

604
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:42,319
Speaker 4: Really, look, let's be honest, feel home with Okay, sure

605
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,640
concerns its number one. I think you gotta put Phil

606
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,000
Ivy number two. I think you got to put down

607
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:47,440
on the ground at number three, even though he has

608
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:54,160
less bracelets this fourth spot, he's doing a lot to

609
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,599
put his name on that. I at WSP bracelets full ppc.

610
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:00,519
Speaker 1: PL.

611
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:02,079
Speaker 4: He doesn't have a Player of the Year, right, I

612
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:05,079
don't think he won the yeah two WPT titles and

613
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,160
now the main event there's not. I don't think there

614
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,000
is a better resume, a better all round resume and

615
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,279
poker than that. It's going to be really hard to

616
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,200
match especially. You know, we can obviously talk about the

617
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,200
success of Doyle and Stuey Younger back in the days,

618
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,079
but this is also the modern the modern time, the

619
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,160
post money Maker era, where the fields are bigger and

620
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,119
the players are better. So it is incredibly hard, you know,

621
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,039
to really say that anyone is better than is Rahi.

622
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:34,559
Speaker 3: Who do we have to consider?

623
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: Eric saidel ten WSP bracelets, five or six you know,

624
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,119
PGT titles. I think he's got a tried and title,

625
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,519
He's got other wins, so he's probably the one that

626
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,480
can really challenge Grinder when it comes to this thing.

627
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,599
And then I think the other one is Jason Kuhn.

628
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,400
Now he doesn't have the WSP you know resume. He

629
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,880
has two bracelets, two incredibly good bracelets, right the Heads

630
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,799
Up Championship and we've got the fifty k Nolman hold

631
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,400
Them roll of this year. But what's he got Eleven

632
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,599
triedent titles, He's won the PGT Championship, you know, lots

633
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,440
of PGT, he's got EPT titles, high stakes cash games,

634
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:13,559
one of the nicest and best ambassadors the game's got.

635
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:17,640
So I think those three are the legitimate, Like who

636
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,799
should be number four, when you're kind of considering post

637
00:29:20,839 --> 00:29:23,240
money Maker era and everything that's kind of happening right now.

638
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: I think collectively as an industry, this is I mean,

639
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,920
I might get flamed for this, but let's just let's

640
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,839
not go too crazy on like the goat conversation, only

641
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,880
because I feel like players like Doyle, Brunson, et cetera.

642
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,000
They deserve their place on them of course, So I'm

643
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,200
just saying, like, let's just not throw Doyle off, for example, Grinder.

644
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,559
You know, I'm just saying, like, this is an incredible

645
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:50,480
moment in incredible summer for Grinder.

646
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,519
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of it more of a current,

647
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,200
not the actual live span of poker, because obviously, yes,

648
00:29:57,319 --> 00:29:59,680
I don't think we're going to re removing Doyle anytime soon.

649
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:01,559
I like what we grew up with.

650
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: I like to think of it in the sense that

651
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,680
we're never gonna see this type of accomplishment in the

652
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,000
span of a summer at the WSP ever again, meaning

653
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,160
winning the fifty k PPC and winning the WSP Main

654
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,279
Event by far, the two hardest tournaments to win by far,

655
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:23,559
and he won both of them in the same summer.

656
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,400
I mean, like, what the hell what the hell just happened? Yeah,

657
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,240
I mean, part of like winning the fifty k PPC

658
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:35,480
is obviously obviously you're playing multiple games against the toughest

659
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:37,759
players in the world. But part of that is you

660
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:39,880
have to be able to build up to even spend

661
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,400
fifty k to play in the damn thing. Not every

662
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:44,519
like the barrier to entry is a bit greater than

663
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:47,160
a lot of other tournaments. Okay, there's that aspect of things.

664
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,839
Then to win the WSP Main Event across ten days

665
00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:55,880
of play, I means it's extremely grueling, Like it's a

666
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,079
minefield out there. The main Event is such a different

667
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,200
beast than everything else. Like you're you're playing largely against

668
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,279
unknown commodities, players you've never seen before. You got to

669
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:09,119
figure them out on the fly. You obviously have to

670
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,000
run hot at times, yes, but you like you have

671
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:16,039
to play as best as you can play for ten

672
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,720
days straight, ten to twelve hours a day. I mean,

673
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,599
the whole thing is just Again, if you were to

674
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,680
like write this in a movie, I'm not sure that

675
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,680
I would believe it. If I were to watch this

676
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,200
movie as a poker movie, I'm telling I would say,

677
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,359
if this weren't didn't happen in real life. And I

678
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,000
watched it as a poker movie, I'd say, yeah, but

679
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:36,000
that would never happen in real life, That's what I

680
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,759
would say. And it fucking happened in real life. Like, so,

681
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:39,720
I don't know what to say.

682
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,559
Speaker 4: This whole story, this whole story needs to be a

683
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:47,680
goddamn movie. It would be the most entertaining movie of

684
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:48,319
all generations.

685
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: It really, it really should. I mean, plus you have

686
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:50,720
you know.

687
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,799
Speaker 4: It allopens with them at the Rhino, but you always

688
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:56,519
a monologue from Nick Shulman it's day seven of the

689
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:57,000
main event.

690
00:31:57,119 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you also have grinders, like he's had these

691
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,079
crazy ups and down to his entire career. Yeah, you know,

692
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:04,559
like he's he's gone through it all, like he obviously

693
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,799
was at he was at the height of the poker

694
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,799
when he was one of the biggest names in the game.

695
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,960
He was the grinder, Like that's who he was, Like

696
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,720
that's how you knew him, when you knew his face

697
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,839
was plastered everywhere, like you know everything about it. He

698
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,359
was he was larger than life. Then you know, he

699
00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:22,480
obviously went through his problems financially and whatever, like a

700
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,279
lot a lot of people do, and then he storms

701
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:27,839
back and it's like that's happened multiple times, but now

702
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,039
to do it in the WS main event and win

703
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,960
ten million dollars.

704
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,359
Speaker 3: Again, what the f just happened?

705
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,359
Speaker 4: I just you know, you can't touch you can't touch

706
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:38,440
on how he had those big highs and he's had

707
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,039
the lows.

708
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: I hope, I hope there's not more lows. I hope

709
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,400
he's I hope he's around. I hope he's competing. You know,

710
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:47,599
we're gonna touch on the PGT later ball a little

711
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,119
later bit. I hope he starts playing a little bigger

712
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,920
play some of our events, you know, try and you know,

713
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,000
ride that rush, you know powerball.

714
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: Okay, part of okay, but part of I know you say,

715
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,119
like you don't want him to like go through those

716
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,400
ups and downs. But that's part of the authenticity that

717
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,359
makes him Michael the Grinderman. Yeah, yeah, okay, is he

718
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:13,279
he is exactly who he is? Yeah, he is the

719
00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:16,400
guy who looks like a buffoon, jumping up and down,

720
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,640
cheering midhand before he raises, like misreading the final hand

721
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,039
of the Dubbsby main event, going out every single night

722
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:25,279
and partying in the midst of this incredible run, like

723
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,519
all wearing the bracelet the whole way through. He wore

724
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:30,839
s fifty K bracelet, Like I got a sorry about that. Yeah,

725
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:33,079
but the whole thing is like you like, you don't

726
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:36,680
see that stuff from from like from the big name stars.

727
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,759
You don't see that stuff anymore. Yeah, and he is

728
00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:42,079
the big name star that did the whole thing. Again,

729
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,119
I cannot comprehend what the hell has happened.

730
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: To touch on the briser real quick. There was a

731
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,559
little incident with it.

732
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,799
Speaker 1: Oh God, of course there was an incident, and I.

733
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: Have to get sent off to get a little fixed.

734
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: It might have been production when they did the all

735
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,279
shoot on day five, you know with all the smoke

736
00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:58,559
and stuff. Uh, the one of the little clips you know,

737
00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:00,240
like on the watch, one of the one of he's

738
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:02,559
called that that kind of like came loose.

739
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: So they get it like repair.

740
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: They put the bracelet on the link the links so yeah, yeah,

741
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,480
and they couldn't get it off, like it wouldn't clip up,

742
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:14,480
like it wouldn't unclipped. But like in the moment they're

743
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:17,119
doing photos, so they like they're rushing, but like they

744
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:19,119
don't and He's just like leave it on wed shoot

745
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:20,519
all the photo. So that's why he's doing all the

746
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:23,000
pictures like this. I'm wondering now, is he I's still

747
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,159
wearing it because he wants to, or be he's still

748
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,079
wearing it because because they come off. I will see

749
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,039
they figured out how to do it once the once

750
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,239
the moment kind of you know, calm down, and they

751
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,079
could take their time to unclip it, you know, fix

752
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:35,760
the link, et cetera.

753
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,039
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you that. And I did an interview

754
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:40,679
with him, which we're going to play in one second.

755
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,400
But after the interview, he's got both bracelets on. He's

756
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,760
got the main one, and afterwards Gregorysia shown from w

757
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,159
s P, is like trying to take the manim em

758
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:51,719
bracelet off.

759
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,519
Speaker 3: He couldn't take it off, okay, So.

760
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: Grinder was like, I'll just wear it like he's got

761
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,760
this two hundred and fifty K bracelet. And they were

762
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,960
like yeah, but you know there's a lot of thing

763
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,280
out there. What if you Grinds like, it's okay, I

764
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:02,760
got a lot.

765
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:05,119
Speaker 3: Of people with me. Yeah, he gives none.

766
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,559
Speaker 1: But here's the interview. After Michael the Grinders, Rocky became

767
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,119
the world champion and won ten million dollars.

768
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: When did it hit you? When?

769
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,119
Speaker 1: When did you start realizing, like this is really happening.

770
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:18,920
It's all coming.

771
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:21,519
Speaker 2: Together to tell you the truth. Day one. What's it

772
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:21,920
going to take?

773
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: The closest thing out to mom.

774
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 5: An houris ft otherwise he's out in hand one and

775
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,119
that'll do it.

776
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: Legendary run Kenny, the embrace of the French fans.

777
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: Off the rail, a time it for cook measure and

778
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,559
a table for four just became a table for two,

779
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,199
no waste or nine.

780
00:35:54,519 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 6: That's all it would take and it's over.

781
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 7: It's unexplainable, like no one never thought. I mean I

782
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,039
heard people guys, this is the greatest achievement in poker history.

783
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:12,679
And then you got Jared by I says this is

784
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,719
the biggest accomplishment in gambling. That you got Phil Ivery

785
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,519
saying this is the biggest accomplishment in sports. So so

786
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:20,679
I heard all the craziest things, so I can't believe

787
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,239
I can It's unimagined. Now, the all the thirty three

788
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,639
guys came up said this guy deserves a Hall of fame.

789
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: So I love love them all, Thank you so much.

790
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,840
It's well deserved.

791
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 7: I mean I could have waited another year would have

792
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,320
motivated me more, maybe hungrier next year.

793
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,679
Speaker 2: But it's okay. I appreciate it, guys. Thank you guys

794
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:35,079
so much.

795
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 7: When I played the Hatikva and I was had all

796
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,639
the guys you know, celebrated when I won the PPC.

797
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,679
Then I was after the day one chip Day one

798
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:48,360
be chip leader and I had no hands too, and

799
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,840
I want all the money in bluffs, no cards over.

800
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,639
It's over, right, it's over.

801
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 2: It's over.

802
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 6: Waiting, it's not over it, Mikey, wait a minute, he.

803
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: Just got board pairs?

804
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: Are we reading the board ron?

805
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: Hang on?

806
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:15,039
Speaker 7: Oh well, well, it was the craziest thing I've ever

807
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:17,440
seen because after ten days of playing, I don't know,

808
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,719
I was black blanked out.

809
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: I couldn't even see it, like the cars.

810
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,639
Speaker 7: I was like what And then at the first I

811
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:23,000
thought he had as a club, so I thought he

812
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:25,400
just had a flush straw. And then I thought he

813
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,559
had that nine with an ace kicker. Then he's drawn

814
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,000
dead and then they were like remember the crowd said, no,

815
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:31,599
he's got top two. I was like, oh crap, I

816
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:33,400
got he's got four out so that's.

817
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:33,639
Speaker 2: Not that bad.

818
00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 7: I was like, oh man, I was already celebrating so

819
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,519
I was never misread. That's the first time ever misread

820
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:40,280
of him. It was the final hand of those event.

821
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:44,280
I just think I've I've figured out the game very

822
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,480
well at a deeper, deeper level to do a lot

823
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:49,119
of creativity that people thinks that no one's ever seen.

824
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,320
I've done plays. Even Mercy and Daniel was going crazy.

825
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,320
Please tell me what you have? Would you have? Begging me?

826
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,920
Mercy said, I can't sleep at night.

827
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,199
Speaker 2: What'd you have? Please? And I told my hands so

828
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,960
I can go to sleep.

829
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,639
Speaker 7: It's just it's, uh, it's all instincts and and feel

830
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:05,920
for the game and and and knowing my players hand rangers.

831
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: I think that's everything.

832
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 7: And that and the in the aggression, no one to bluff,

833
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,880
you know, no one to just give up a hand,

834
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:16,559
and uh even know when to face adversity.

835
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: And I just that's what gets me through.

836
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,679
Speaker 7: Or the thirty three guys that inducted me to the

837
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:23,480
Hall of Fame, I appreciate that when I could do

838
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:25,639
with my family and friends. So that's an amazing feeling.

839
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 2: And thank you guys, Love you guys. Mama grind Or

840
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,719
she gets everything. God.

841
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 7: Her favorite thing is she loves to play slot machine,

842
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,199
So I'm gonna give her a lot of money to

843
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:39,960
play some slides. I was at the top of my

844
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:42,280
level this this World Series. I mean, that's it takes

845
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,920
everything out of me. And that's why every time I

846
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,440
play the World Series, it burns me out.

847
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: But I'm not burnt out. I wish he's still going.

848
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: I love it. I love everything about it. Fact, when

849
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,920
I asked him when did he when did he realize that,

850
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,760
like this is all happening, and he said day one.

851
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: He didn't mean day one of the main eventyone, day

852
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,840
one of you know, May twenty seve I.

853
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:10,559
Speaker 1: Mean, he's absolutely positively one of a kind. They don't

854
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:15,239
make him like grinder. I feel like I'm going to

855
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,960
rewatch this Final table multiple times. This twelve Final Table, well,

856
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,320
part of it is like, yes, it was pretty short,

857
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,960
you know, almost just under four hour, nineteen hands to

858
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,320
nineteen hands today and I believe seventy nine total over

859
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,199
the I think it was fifty nine on the first day. Yeah,

860
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,760
so yeah, yeah, the first the first day of the

861
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,719
Final Table took a little bit under four hours total.

862
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:43,280
Today took about an hour, a little bit under total,

863
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,800
So you know, it's easily easily digestible.

864
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 6: You know.

865
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,599
Speaker 1: I do often go back and watch past final tables,

866
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:55,239
and I feel like this is one of those ones

867
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,840
that I'm going to be sucked into watching a few

868
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,760
more times. I mean, it was just the whole thing

869
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,800
was just wildly incredible from start to finish. I think

870
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,719
it's a great result, you know, I think that this

871
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,599
was arguably I'm not sure how far I would go back,

872
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:16,280
but I mean just kind of looking through some of

873
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,239
these banners here in this room. I mean, it's often

874
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,239
hard for me to talk about final tables and compare

875
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,599
them to the ones that took place inside the Pen

876
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:29,440
and Teller Theater because even though you may not have

877
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:33,159
gotten like the biggest names or stars or storylines at

878
00:40:33,159 --> 00:40:37,480
those final tables, that atmosphere inside Pen and Teller Theater

879
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:43,199
was absolutely electric when the place was packed, everyone had

880
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,400
like fifty people in their crowd, like just going nuts

881
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,679
like that shit was wildly awesome. So it's hard for

882
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,679
me to like go back there and I'd have to

883
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,239
think through it more.

884
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 4: When is the lost Penn and Tell one twenty ten?

885
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:05,119
That's a good question, No, no, no, no ten. Jacobson's Yeah,

886
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:07,960
ke win Keyans was not right.

887
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: Mckeyen's was. I think Jacobson's was the loss.

888
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: No, because didn't didn't keywin beat Gordon vio in Penn

889
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,599
and Teller two.

890
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,599
Speaker 4: Thousand and eight was the first, and then twenty and sixteen.

891
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, keeing because I remember I remember the Gordon vio stuff.

892
00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:29,039
I don't know, I can just picture Key winning Gordon

893
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:32,199
Viole like in my mind on the stage. Yeah, and

894
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,920
then and then Blumstein moved in. I remember where I

895
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,639
was for the Blumstein when I was sitting in the Newark,

896
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:40,480
New Jersey airport, and that one went to like Forever

897
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:42,400
in the morning and I had like a I had

898
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,679
like this overnight layover in the airport and I was like,

899
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,719
well I just fire up to man. Fuck it. It

900
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,280
was because it was on Forever. But like that atmosphere

901
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,920
inside that theater was so cool, was just so so cool.

902
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,199
So you got any like you got any other kind

903
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,639
of lasting thoughts here on on Grinder and the just

904
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,079
keep it to the men event for right now. We'll

905
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:03,199
get into the PGG stuff.

906
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:09,159
Speaker 4: And No, it was, you know, the whole the whole

907
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,119
last few days was just kind of unbelievable. Watched He's like, no,

908
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,079
there's no way, you know, goes down the three big ones.

909
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:17,599
He's done. You know, there goes one of our big names. Nope,

910
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:19,800
he's still in. He's still in, chipping up, chipping up.

911
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,079
Like the story just always seemed like we couldn't believe it,

912
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:26,199
but it just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

913
00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:28,360
You know, you get to the final table on day

914
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,039
one and you know we have that big ace King

915
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:33,559
King's hand, He's like, oh, his luck's run out from

916
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,400
Ace on the river, you know, like it's.

917
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: Just every he said he felt the ace on the

918
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,519
river coming. He said, I didn't feel the ten, but

919
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:41,320
I felt the ace.

920
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: Of course, every day just seemed to level up, like

921
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,840
just so much more on the line, so much more

922
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:51,039
tugging at the heart strings of you know, everyone in

923
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:53,400
this room, Like I kind of touched on a bit yesday.

924
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,599
The poker players were behind him, you know, a lot

925
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,119
of friends, a lot of guys that are playing all

926
00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:57,559
these events.

927
00:42:57,559 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 4: Here in this bit where we're sitting out, we're rooting

928
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,880
for Grinder, and it's it's it's just so hard to believe,

929
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,880
and you know, like we're going to be back here

930
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,159
next year, you know, talking about the main event, talking

931
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:10,880
about other events and being like, probably still won't be

932
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,800
able to believe that Grinder did what he did this

933
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,119
world series, you know.

934
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I can already see myself back here next

935
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,800
year and we're gonna see his banner up on the

936
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,440
wall and they're gonna we're gonna look at it and

937
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:26,719
be like, you remember that ship, You remember how crazy

938
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:27,079
that this.

939
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: Is gonna be.

940
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:30,199
Speaker 4: This has to be AI generated, No way this is true,

941
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,360
but yeah, it's gonna be. You know, he'll be, He's bound.

942
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,400
I'll be right up there where Jonathan Tomos is. And

943
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:37,360
there's some incredible winter photos to choose from. Good luck

944
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,199
WSP picking the right photo, because you're picking a photo

945
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:43,719
to immortalize the moment. And if you look at these banners,

946
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,079
you know they're all they're all very similar. They're all

947
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,599
holding the bracelet, you know, above the money. You look

948
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:51,280
at Dan Wyman's where he's leaning on the money.

949
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,559
Speaker 1: I like the I like the like over the money,

950
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:54,800
which Grinder has one of those.

951
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 4: I think that could be the I think that's the

952
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,760
photo they should use for Grinder to be I like.

953
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: Those photos the best. I don't like the ones that

954
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,599
are like Johnson Scott Blumstein where you're just standing there

955
00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:06,840
like holding the cards in the like, I like like like,

956
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,400
grab that fucking money. It's that's yours. Yeah, but that

957
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:13,039
is yours. Shit, grab it, like, let's go, grab it,

958
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:14,360
pick it up, bring it home.

959
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 4: Singing to the Jamie gold one where that he was

960
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,719
leaning on the twelve million dollars, just like all of it,

961
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,920
like slackdown, Wyman.

962
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,599
Speaker 3: Those were Yeah, they're probably the best one in the sound.

963
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: Yes, all right. Well part of Michael the Grinder and

964
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,039
Rocky winning the ten thousand dollars WSUP main event here

965
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:34,519
in twenty twenty five is he is the new number

966
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,280
one on the PGT leaderboard. You put him as the

967
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,079
new number one. You did the leaderboard calculations, you sorted them,

968
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:41,360
and you said, you looked at me and you said,

969
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,760
guess who's the new number one.

970
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was.

971
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,519
Speaker 4: Okay, Look, we've made changes to the system because players

972
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:49,360
have like kind of mentioned, hey, the winner of the

973
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,559
main event stion and go to the top.

974
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,599
Speaker 3: I agreed, we made adjustments.

975
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: But when you win the fifty k PPC and the

976
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,800
main event, it's pretty hard not to be a top

977
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,079
he is now the leader two hundred and fifty points.

978
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:04,639
I spoke to Jared but Lesnik I said, hey, by

979
00:45:04,679 --> 00:45:07,559
the way, he's now in the championship. This is before today,

980
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,679
you know, when there was fall left. So by the way, Mazerah,

981
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,679
he's in the championship. You need to get him down.

982
00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:12,960
The studio is that he's not going to come play

983
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,280
the anything I'm like, but he's qualified for the free role.

984
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,320
He needs one more cash because we need three cashs

985
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,280
to qualify, and he's said, oh okay, maybe I'll get

986
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,280
him down there for something. But now he's the top.

987
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,320
He's ahead of Alex foxhen by one hundred and eighteen points.

988
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:28,280
Obviously two cashes. We know Alex Fox and he's going

989
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,239
to be firing hard for the rest of the year.

990
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:33,639
He's got seventeen cash. He's going to catch up. Moving

991
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,400
down John Wasnock, he's seventh place one cash. You have

992
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,760
Braxton done Away in ninth, you have Kenny Hallard in fourteenth. However,

993
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,480
the biggest mover from the main event was without Dad

994
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,920
Adam Hendrix four cashes this PGT season. He's now sixth

995
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:53,320
place with fifteen hundred and three points guaranteed. I say

996
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,599
that guaranteed a seat in the PGT Million Dollar Championship.

997
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,039
Now it's more of a question of where does he

998
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:02,519
want to position himself on the leaderboard coming into the

999
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,000
million dollar free role. And for Grinder, what a chatter

1000
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,239
this week about him not winning the Player of the Year, Right,

1001
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,519
you know what player of the year title? He could

1002
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:14,719
win the GGT Player of the Year and the fifty

1003
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,760
K bonus he gets for winning that. So look if

1004
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,400
Jared Blesnik or Chino, one of his close friends that

1005
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,719
plays our events can convince Grinder. You know, we've got

1006
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,079
a plow series coming up that's right up his alley.

1007
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:31,079
We've got a bounty series coming up, We've got Pokemasters,

1008
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:34,199
We've got all these events come down, get that cash,

1009
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,440
make a run at you know, locking up your own

1010
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,440
PGT Player of the Year award.

1011
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: At this rate, I just expect him to win PGG Player.

1012
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: Of the Year. He'll play one event win.

1013
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: That's the whole The whole thing is just absolutely positively crazy.

1014
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: All right.

1015
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: I do want to mention one thing, but we're not

1016
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,800
going to really talk about it. I just want to

1017
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,440
mention it, and that is that we have some breaking news.

1018
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 8: Is breaking News says that Asie Millions is returning.

1019
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: I know, I just remember.

1020
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,199
Speaker 1: So we just got that. Well, we'll talk about it

1021
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:24,639
a little bit more on a future pod. But you know,

1022
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:26,559
somebody dropped it into a chat with me. It's made

1023
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:28,760
it into our our little w s P chat. So

1024
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,360
Ausie Millions returning, Stay tuned for more on that, Tim

1025
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:37,000
and I will we'll digest this little if they'll have

1026
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:40,639
us back at Crown. I am fucking in. Okay, I am,

1027
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:43,599
I am in. If I can go, if I can

1028
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:46,119
go to that food court, meet my guy who always

1029
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:50,840
remembered me every single time. I always remembered me, always

1030
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,320
always remembered me. I'll go there. I'll order my fruit bowl,

1031
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,960
maybe my little kishe you know, double espresso maybe.

1032
00:47:59,599 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: What is it?

1033
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: What do I usually get to?

1034
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: Flat?

1035
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: Flat white? No long, not long black? I got a

1036
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,079
long block all the time. Go to that little sushi

1037
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:10,119
joint with has a little single rules. That place was

1038
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:13,280
eleade to the whole, the whole I'm sending all right,

1039
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,280
So we'll talk about that at the future date. Obviously

1040
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,800
we want to have some more details come out, but

1041
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,079
it sounds like Allsie Millions back. It's gonna be back, baby,

1042
00:48:20,199 --> 00:48:22,320
and yeah, you got anything else for me when the

1043
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:22,800
main event?

1044
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:26,079
Speaker 3: No, talk a little bit about some other events for us.

1045
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,159
Speaker 1: Okay, because it is I forgot.

1046
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,199
Speaker 4: It is the last day, but there is a plus

1047
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:32,400
also just going on so the fans know.

1048
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,599
Speaker 1: I think we'll do a podcast tomorrow.

1049
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna done tomorrow.

1050
00:48:37,039 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: Ship all right, Well when can you do a podcast?

1051
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 3: I'm back on Tuesday. I think on Wednesday.

1052
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,639
Speaker 1: That's way too long.

1053
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: You could do a solid.

1054
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do a solo just just to just because

1055
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,480
there's there's a couple. I mean, they just moved the

1056
00:48:48,519 --> 00:48:51,079
spy and they're still about the twenty five k horse

1057
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:56,599
happening the closer Super Turble, so there's still stuff happening. Yeah,

1058
00:48:56,639 --> 00:49:01,440
but on that quickly I am. I am pro having

1059
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:04,880
other events run during the main event. I obviously think

1060
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,280
that it's a smart decision revenue wise. Yeah. I also

1061
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,280
like giving everyone that's here more stuff to play. But

1062
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,920
I do think that the last day, the final card

1063
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,719
Dell should be the final hand of the main event

1064
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,519
and then we should be Finito Seal eight. Yeah, like

1065
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:24,559
that's what I think should happen. So you know, I

1066
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:26,760
this this stuff because I mean also like we all

1067
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,880
kind of go home, like everyone's kind of like, all right,

1068
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,320
it's done, but it's not done, so it's kind of tricky.

1069
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 4: So anyway, continue, Yeah, let's go real quick. We got

1070
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,000
the twenty five K horse high Roller over there. That's

1071
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,119
down to five players playing for eight hundred and eighty

1072
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:41,320
three K. Toby lewis run rapping the toss event looking

1073
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,760
for a little bit of vengeance here, Brian Rass, not

1074
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,599
cha Rivera.

1075
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: Well, they only needed to switch the first game, yea.

1076
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:48,559
Speaker 3: Ryan Miller.

1077
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 4: Brian Rass also has a bricelet going for a second

1078
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,320
brcelet for the summer, the three K PLR. It was

1079
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,639
won by dan Zach. That happened late last night. Yep,

1080
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,280
dan Zach. Another bracelet that he defeated Zach Swartz, a

1081
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,760
pgt PLO series winner. So dan Zach, congratulations. Another bracer

1082
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:12,760
the fifteen hundred Closer. That's down to eighteen players playing

1083
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,079
for six hundred and forty eight K. Donny will recap

1084
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:17,119
that they just moved the table in here. This is

1085
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:19,599
the five K no limit hold him and the number

1086
00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:23,840
one Pokego podcast fan David Odi B. Baker is the

1087
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,159
chip leader going for his second bracelet of the summer

1088
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,280
nine point four million.

1089
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:30,199
Speaker 3: He's got a massive shoutout, massive mass.

1090
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 4: He does have a message over Paddy Lions world famous

1091
00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:37,599
Pat Lions. Who's in second, Brandon Wilson, Andreosopachenko, Sam Laskowitz

1092
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,960
and Bryan Altman amongst the final I.

1093
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: Feel like we haven't seen Sam laskowitch much of him

1094
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,719
the summer. Obviously has new baby, but you know, really

1095
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,280
haven't seen him doing anything on the felt so good

1096
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,280
for him to close the series strong.

1097
00:50:50,199 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 4: And Event one hundred, the final event of the World

1098
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,559
Series nineteen hundred and thirty five players in the one

1099
00:50:54,639 --> 00:50:57,559
K turbo sound to one hundred and eleven players. That's

1100
00:50:57,599 --> 00:50:59,440
going to wrap up. They'll probably finish before all. He's

1101
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,119
actually and shot for he's the current chip later first

1102
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,719
prize is two hundred and thirty seven K. So obviously

1103
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,920
a few more events happening. We have a Player of

1104
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,920
the Year that needs to be confirmed. Although the front

1105
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,440
Rono came and gave me the middle finger and said,

1106
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,800
fuck you, I want to know that. I'm like, it

1107
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,679
ain't finished it. Buddy grind is going to register the

1108
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,079
one K. He's like, no, the Restrutians already closed, so

1109
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,400
I'm just just kidding up beside. No dude, and I checked.

1110
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,239
I was like, what do you mean you checked? So

1111
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,920
we'll kind of touch a bit more on that, gentleman.

1112
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,400
And if he, you know, being potentially a winning player of.

1113
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,199
Speaker 1: The year, alrighty, well, that's going to do it for us.

1114
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,199
Our final podcast from here inside the Horseshoe. It was

1115
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,639
a pleasure to be bringing this to you every single

1116
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:48,440
damn day, fifty one days in a row, I believe,

1117
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:51,039
is what we ended up doing. We did video, we

1118
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,760
achieved what we set out to do, met a lot

1119
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,400
of good listeners. Oh yeah, wait, hold on, one more thing.

1120
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,960
Your hats.

1121
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 4: The hats, the hat's we're wearing. Twenty five left. We

1122
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,280
want you to email us. What's that email again?

1123
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,519
Speaker 1: Podcast? Thank you dot com.

1124
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,639
Speaker 4: The first twenty five people that send us an email

1125
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,719
with their address, we will send you a hat. Unfortunately

1126
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,920
US only, so if you're from Australia, bad luck. If

1127
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,800
you're from Zimbabwe, bad luck. If you're from Poland, Poland,

1128
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,840
bad luck. US only twenty five hats left. First twenty

1129
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,599
five that email us, we'll get one of those. Will

1130
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:29,400
probably take a week before we send them out. But yeah,

1131
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,000
thank you for all the support this summer. It's been fun.

1132
00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:33,840
It's been fun meeting all of you, fun, giving on

1133
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,800
hats and finding you out in the field, hearing your

1134
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,320
stories about you know, the bad beats and the luck

1135
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,280
of the hat and all that stuff. So we appreciate

1136
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,239
every one of you, guys, and look forward to doing

1137
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:45,599
this a.

1138
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 3: Bit more for the rest of the year.

1139
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: We'll all move back to our more regular cadence of

1140
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,920
once a week, you know, same channel, same podcast, catches

1141
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,360
all that sort of stuff. But so don't expect the

1142
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,559
daily stuff. Maybe we'll come a little bit more frequently,

1143
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,239
which depending on what's happening in the poker world. But

1144
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,960
you know, for right now, we're really gonna just try

1145
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,519
and move back to once a week, talk about the news,

1146
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:10,239
talk about the PGT, all of that sort of good stuff.

1147
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,000
Anything else for me, Yeah, I.

1148
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: Got one more thing. You guys can see the set right,

1149
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:18,599
beautiful set. God, But we're throwing it out. We'll not

1150
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:21,239
the expensive stuff like the LED I would hope not

1151
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,559
the LED panels. We're keeping some of this other stuff.

1152
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:26,840
It's a little junkie and I've been given I've been

1153
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,239
given clearance, been given clearance.

1154
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,039
Speaker 3: To hit something.

1155
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 4: Oh my god, we're gonna end the world series with

1156
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:38,280
a bang, literally a bang, literally a bang. So I've

1157
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,119
been giving the okay, there's a TV over there that's

1158
00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:41,679
going the dumpster at seven years old.

1159
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,679
Speaker 3: Jesus, We're gonna put this sledge. First of all, they

1160
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,199
said this is a sedge hammer. I was expecting twenty

1161
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,360
seven hammer. Yeah, it's a hammer.

1162
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 4: So we're gonna go put a little hole on a

1163
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,039
TV to end this podcast on a bang. He's gonna

1164
00:53:57,039 --> 00:53:59,000
bring the camera. I'm gonna put these meta glasses on

1165
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,400
from a photographer. See if I can record.

1166
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 3: Sometime the scenes things. We'll see how this because I

1167
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,679
can record video on this. All right, this is how

1168
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,880
we are gonna end the podcast. Thanks for all listening, guys,

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And let's close this seem duckworth.

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Speaker 1: I'm Johnny Peters, and I guess you're gonna go smash something.

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I think, so let's let's stop.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Retnight, Chenny Express, Retnit, Chenny Express. Okay