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Speaker 2: an hour of logic and reason, brought to you by
Speaker 2: Congressman Thomas Massey, followed by Judge Jenninapolitano. Congressman Massy, it
Speaker 2: is always my justting pleasure to have you on the program, sir.
Speaker 1: Great to be on the show with you this morning, Brian.
Speaker 2: We did a lot of discussion yesterday about the unfolding
Speaker 2: situation in Syria, and that was the first topic that
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about this morning. And there's no
Speaker 2: love loss for yshar al asade I don't know a
Speaker 2: human being on the planet that thought he was a
Speaker 2: great guy. That is a good thing. He was empowered,
Speaker 2: obviously a ruthless dictator, killed hundreds of thousands and people,
Speaker 2: tortured tens of thousands of people. He's now gone. But
Speaker 2: what happens now in the aftermath with the rebel forces
Speaker 2: taking over the country. Aren't these rebels made up and
Speaker 2: comprised of largely Islamic fundamentalists.
Speaker 1: Well, the person in charge now is the head of
Speaker 1: a terrorist organization designated as a terrorist organization by the
Speaker 1: US government. And so we've got the ironic situation where
Speaker 1: people in America, in our State Department, are celebrating their
Speaker 1: success in installing a terrorist organization at the head of
Speaker 1: a sovereign country. I mean, meanwhile, we've been meddling there
Speaker 1: for over a decade YEA. I was elected in twenty
Speaker 1: twelve and took office in November twenty twelve, and by
Speaker 1: the spring of twenty thirteen, I was already offering bills
Speaker 1: and resolutions to get us out of Syria. And we
Speaker 1: had a vote. We were going to have a vote
Speaker 1: when Obama was president on whether to go to war
Speaker 1: in Syria to put US tree Tros there, and people
Speaker 1: rallied around the United States and said, we don't want
Speaker 1: a war in Syria. So we didn't do a war
Speaker 1: in Syria. But what happened, and I've got to put
Speaker 1: I'm doing air quotes right now at my desk here
Speaker 1: in DC. According to The New York Times, we spent
Speaker 1: a billion dollars on a clandestine program in Syria after
Speaker 1: refused to vote to go to war there. According to
Speaker 1: the New York Times air quotes, we basically undertook an
Speaker 1: operation to destabilize Asad in Syria, and it was multi year,
Speaker 1: multiprong operation. When Trump came into office, Pompeo basically reversed
Speaker 1: a lot of that, and then it all went back
Speaker 1: into place after Biden took over. And frankly, I would
Speaker 1: say probably when when Trump was there, it didn't complete
Speaker 1: stop either. I mean, the State Department, the Deep State
Speaker 1: was not going to be deterred by mere surface nuisance,
Speaker 1: i e. Elected officials. They kept on with this, and meanwhile,
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of Christians were displaced in this country.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that you know that we shouldn't
Speaker 1: worry about the other people who were affected by meddling
Speaker 1: over there. We absolutely should. But Christians in the United
Speaker 1: States who might find themselves cheering this recent development, need
Speaker 1: to understand. As you said, Assad was not a nice guy,
Speaker 1: but the Christians were much better off over there under him.
Speaker 2: He protected them because he was an allow eight or whatever.
Speaker 2: His minority group was ten percent of the population. But
Speaker 2: he protected his crew. But he also provided protection for Christians.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, you're gonna have to break this
Speaker 2: down for me because I'm really confused. Didn't the Iranians
Speaker 2: support the be Charles Sade regime? Or have I got
Speaker 2: that up side down?
Speaker 1: No? That's correct.
Speaker 2: Okay, So wait a second. Biden administration and Obama all
Speaker 2: about supporting the Iranians. We gave them billions of dollars,
Speaker 2: gave them, you know, truckloads of money, literally pallets of money,
Speaker 2: lightened sanctions on the Iranians, I suppose, with the hope
Speaker 2: that they wouldn't develop a nuclear weapon. How is it
Speaker 2: that by helping the Iranians in that way but then
Speaker 2: trying to undermine Syria, which the Iranians support, And was
Speaker 2: there an end game contemplated when we were spending billions
Speaker 2: of dollars trying to undermine the Bashar Ali Shad regime?
Speaker 2: I mean, what were we hoping to accomplish by doing that?
Speaker 2: Did we not think about what would happen if he
Speaker 2: did fault? Like what's happening right now?
Speaker 1: Well? I think that Syria and Assad was just a
Speaker 1: pawn in a much larger global game here. And this
Speaker 1: is why they won't tell you what our goals are
Speaker 1: because they don't want you to know the goals. But
Speaker 1: now that they're celebrating, you can see what they're celebrating.
Speaker 1: They're celebrating an embarrassment to Runrussia because Russia was also
Speaker 1: one of the supporters of ASAD. And again they were
Speaker 1: in there, not particularly because they ideologically care about ASAD
Speaker 1: or any of the things going on there. This was
Speaker 1: a proxy, proxy hot war, not a Cold War, but
Speaker 1: a continuation, i would say, of the Cold War, or
Speaker 1: reigniting of the Cold War. And it was a proxy
Speaker 1: hot war civil war in Syria with American interests on
Speaker 1: one side, although I'm not sure what they were other
Speaker 1: than opposing Iran in Russia and Russia and Iranian interests
Speaker 1: on another side, although I'm not sure what those were
Speaker 1: other than opposing America. And in the meantime, you've got
Speaker 1: millions of people who were suffering. So I think the
Speaker 1: people there are a lot of people in Syria who
Speaker 1: are just glad that it's over to some degree, but
Speaker 1: we don't know what's coming next. This terrorist organization that's
Speaker 1: running Syria at this point, again designated by our own
Speaker 1: State Department, the ones who did this as a terrorist
Speaker 1: organization they started with al Qaeda. Now they say they've
Speaker 1: severed their ties to al Qaeda and al Ustra and
Speaker 1: all this and that and the other thing. But they're
Speaker 1: still comprised of the same rebels that they were when
Speaker 1: they were al Qaeda. So it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what comes next. Maybe maybe the trains will run on time,
Speaker 1: maybe the buses will run, maybe the shops will be open.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. It's not worked out well in other countries.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, get ready, we're going to hear all of
Speaker 1: these reasons why we need to take more refugees into
Speaker 1: this country from the Middle East because of what happened.
Speaker 2: Well, well, yes, like day following night, that of course
Speaker 2: will be the reality there. Going back to your earlier
Speaker 2: comment though, because this is a subject matter the ju
Speaker 2: Judge and I talk about all the time, Judge and Politano,
Speaker 2: you said earlier on that there was a vote on
Speaker 2: whether we would be entering into war with Syria. Was
Speaker 2: that a vote to declare war like is required the
Speaker 2: constitution or was it was it a vote to just
Speaker 2: sort of like authorization for use of military force, which
Speaker 2: I think is extra constitutional.
Speaker 1: Well, it was going to be the extra constitutional variety
Speaker 1: at AUMF. But here's what happened. Obama threw it to Congress,
Speaker 1: and Pelosi was all in. John Bayner was all in.
Speaker 1: I suppose the leaders in the Senate were all in.
Speaker 1: But we received one hundred phone calls a day each
Speaker 1: congressional office from our own constituents, which is a record.
Speaker 1: I mean, this past week, there was one day I
Speaker 1: received no phone calls from any constituents to my office.
Speaker 1: So to get a hundred phone calls as remarkable. Now,
Speaker 1: I know, I just invited at least three dozen phone
Speaker 1: calls on my staff today, which is fine. We were listening.
Speaker 1: Operators are standing by. But we had one hundred phone
Speaker 1: calls a day for a solid week, and everybody wanted
Speaker 1: us not to vote to go to war or to
Speaker 1: do the AUMF and Syria. So what they did is
Speaker 1: the voe never happened. They quietly didn't vote on it
Speaker 1: at all because they knew American support wasn't there for it.
Speaker 1: And then they quietly, according to the New York Times,
Speaker 1: undertook a secret war in Syria.
Speaker 2: Wow, which doesn't surprise me. We have our fingers literally
Speaker 2: everywhere around the globe for reasons that are mysterious and
Speaker 2: unknown to me.
Speaker 1: So and one more thing about the mysterious and the unknown.
Speaker 1: The timing of this, Look, who's going to be the
Speaker 1: head of d and I Tulci Gabbard. She's the one who,
Speaker 1: along with me, was famously opposed to our meddling there.
Speaker 1: She even went to Syria, she visited Syria, and now
Speaker 1: she's being named into this cabinet. And Trump is the
Speaker 1: one during his administration we had troops there. He tried
Speaker 1: to pull our troops out, and then the deep state
Speaker 1: tried to go after him for that, tried to say,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. We had votes in Congress. The
Speaker 1: timing of this is I think as soon as the
Speaker 1: November election results we're in and Trump was declared the winner,
Speaker 1: our deep state and some of our global allies went
Speaker 1: into overdrive to bring this to to you know, consummate
Speaker 1: the overthrow before Trump could get in there or Tulsi
Speaker 1: Gabbart or some of the other people who have questioned
Speaker 1: this policy of overthrowing aside. I mean, if a turtle
Speaker 1: gets on a fence post, it didn't get there by
Speaker 1: by accident, right exactly? This cool. The timing here is
Speaker 1: remarkable and I'm going to call it for what it is.
Speaker 1: They just got this done before Trump could get in
Speaker 1: there and stop it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. And real quick here, I'm reminded of
Speaker 2: Afghanistan when the Russians went into Afghanistan. That was back
Speaker 2: when they were the Soviet Union, and we you know,
Speaker 2: the enemy of my enemy is my friends. We would
Speaker 2: fund the Majahhadeen to fight the Russians, which made us
Speaker 2: look good. But then again, when the Russians get kicked out,
Speaker 2: that leaves the power void, and then the Majah Hiden
Speaker 2: then becomes the enemy of us, right, and we ended
Speaker 2: up fight fundamental as terrorists. And it's just it's a
Speaker 2: Charlie foxtrot. If I may be so bold as to
Speaker 2: call it that, Can I just ask it real briefly
Speaker 2: because we're gonna take a break, I'm go and bring
Speaker 2: it back talk about the topics. But did we miss
Speaker 2: an opportunity with the fall of the Berlin Wall and
Speaker 2: the fall of the Soviet Union to just sort of
Speaker 2: make good and play nice with the Russians and start,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe perhaps trading with them rather than just
Speaker 2: viewing them as the Soviet Union just under different guys,
Speaker 2: did we miss an opportunity? Because we've been playing nice
Speaker 2: with the Chinese, much to the Chinese benefit, since Nixon
Speaker 2: was in office. And look what happened to them. I mean,
Speaker 2: they did not become a capitalist country. They became our
Speaker 2: mortal enemy. Yet we still continue to trade with them.
Speaker 2: But I just didn't see that unfolding in Russia in
Speaker 2: the fall the Soviet Union.
Speaker 1: We didn't just miss an opportunity, We poisoned the well
Speaker 1: by expanding NATO. We told them, okay, you do this,
Speaker 1: you concede everything to us, you make nice, we'll trade
Speaker 1: with you, and we won't expand NATO. And then what
Speaker 1: do we do. We just keep expanding NATO. And that's frankly,
Speaker 1: what Ukraine was about. So you're right, we missed an opportunity,
Speaker 1: but we also poisoned the well. And it's a shame
Speaker 1: because our real competitors in this next century are China is,
Speaker 1: China here and whatever alliance they can build, and they're
Speaker 1: working over time to do that, and we should be
Speaker 1: aligned with Russia, frankly, instead of being fighting them, because
Speaker 1: China is it's ten times the power that Russia is.
Speaker 1: Whether you as you're economically or other than nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1: In every other category, China is a bigger threat than Russia.
Speaker 2: And like us, their fingertips are all over the globe
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Speaker 2: Hey twenty one Fluth Carsee talk station Brian Thomas with
Speaker 2: one of the few good ones we've got an elected capacity,
Speaker 2: Congressman Thomas Massey, and God bless the folks in the
Speaker 2: Commonwealth of Kentucky for bringing you back. He's a good man.
Speaker 2: He knows what he's talking about. Back when we had
Speaker 2: COVID and we were all being lied to, we effectively
Speaker 2: had martial law declared, even without declaring it. I know
Speaker 2: we have the free exercise of religion guaranteed by the
Speaker 2: First Amendment of the Constitution the United States of America,
Speaker 2: along with the right to assembly, freedom of assembly, and
Speaker 2: yet those were taken away by government officials. And at
Speaker 2: the time they did it, I was screaming in the
Speaker 2: radio what you can't tell people? They are not allowed
Speaker 2: to be running around on the streets. But yet we
Speaker 2: had that. And apparently Chad Cronister, who was selected by
Speaker 2: President ELEC. Donald Trump to serve as the Drug Enforcement
Speaker 2: Administration administrator, did just that. He participated in this ridiculous Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he ordered the arrest of a pastor. And as
Speaker 1: you know, the chief law enforcement officer for a county
Speaker 1: the sheriff. The sheriff, by the way, is your last
Speaker 1: line of defense when somebody's trying to violate the constitution,
Speaker 1: and if the sheriff will stand up for you, you can
Speaker 1: stop all sorts of bad things, even coming from the
Speaker 1: federal But instead of standing up and protecting constitution, he
Speaker 1: went right along with the lockdowns, ordered the arrest of
Speaker 1: a pastor. You know, we had this nonsense in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Our own governor Andy Basheer sent the state troopers out
Speaker 1: to write down license plates and send them into local
Speaker 1: health authorities and put notices on windows and try to
Speaker 1: intimidate people into not going to church. But this sheriff
Speaker 1: in Florida did the same thing, and unfortunately, I don't
Speaker 1: think they vetted him fully. And to Trump's credit, maybe
Speaker 1: the sheriff himself the sheriff issued a press release saying
Speaker 1: I'm withdrawing my name. But Trump came out and said, no,
Speaker 1: I withdrew you're thinking for this. But that's not all
Speaker 1: that this sheriff did. I mean, in twenty twelve, this
Speaker 1: sheriff gave thousands of dollars to Obama. Okay, I presume
Speaker 1: he's a Republican now or Trump wouldn't have picked him.
Speaker 1: But somebody needs to vet that kind of stuff. And also,
Speaker 1: he had a de facto, de facto COVID vaccine mandate
Speaker 1: in his office because he said, if you get sick,
Speaker 1: if you're one of my deputies and you get sick
Speaker 1: and you need time off, we're not paying for it
Speaker 1: if you haven't had the vaccine. But if you've taken
Speaker 1: the vaccine, we'll pay for it. So he was all
Speaker 1: around bad guy. I went out on social media. I
Speaker 1: asked my staff because I get fact checked. I mean
Speaker 1: I get fact checked every day. People would just love
Speaker 1: to catch me being wrong. Unfortunately it doesn't happen because
Speaker 1: I checked my facts before I go out. We researched
Speaker 1: all this stuff on this guy, and within hours of
Speaker 1: him being named for this position, I went on a
Speaker 1: speaking of Syria, I went on a jihad to expose
Speaker 1: this guy. We cannot let him be in the DEA,
Speaker 1: the drug enforcement agency. He can't be running. That's he's
Speaker 1: a bad law enforcement officer. So went out on social media,
Speaker 1: got three million views on the tweet where I said
Speaker 1: he should be disqualified for the things that he's done.
Speaker 1: And again, to his credit, Trump's said, after the public outcry,
Speaker 1: this is one instance where the people spoke and it mattered.
Speaker 1: You didn't have to go to the ballot box. People
Speaker 1: said no, we don't want this guy and all the wrongs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Trump said, yep, you're right, We're taking his name
Speaker 1: off the list. So hats off to the people.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, two guys that are on a list anyway,
Speaker 2: not going to be getting a government salary, not going
Speaker 2: to be enjoying the benefits of government, but you know,
Speaker 2: benefits of Viva elon musk and Viva Gramma swimming. They're
Speaker 2: going to be sitting down. I just kind of have
Speaker 2: this vision of them being in some unused government office building,
Speaker 2: pouring through the books and just saying unnecessary wrong, no misspent,
Speaker 2: and just handing over to Congress to see what they
Speaker 2: do and so we can identify the good guys and
Speaker 2: bad guys see where they cut. They make great recommendations.
Speaker 2: I assume they're going to and they'll point out the
Speaker 2: flaws and the and the government waste and abuse and
Speaker 2: see and see what elected officials do about it. What's
Speaker 2: your take on this Doge thing, Well.
Speaker 1: The Doge Committee, I tell people, it's like the Constitution.
Speaker 1: If you can get my colleagues to follow it, great,
Speaker 1: but if they don't, you're in trouble because the Doatch
Speaker 1: Committee needs executive action and more importantly, it needs Congressional
Speaker 1: action to cut these programs, to de authorize this craziness.
Speaker 1: Although what I've observed in my twelve years is that
Speaker 1: we don't even have the spine or the wherewithal to
Speaker 1: defund one toner cartridge at the FBI when they do
Speaker 1: something bad and they won't give us answers. Instead of
Speaker 1: saying we're not going to pay for your copier machine
Speaker 1: there and office one AB, we say here's a new
Speaker 1: building to conduct your malfeasance in, and we build them
Speaker 1: a new building. So, and by the way, I tweeted that,
Speaker 1: because Congress takes over on January third, and the President
Speaker 1: is sworn in on January twentieth. We have seventeen days
Speaker 1: to pile up a stack of good bills on his
Speaker 1: desk so that on his first day, I know he's
Speaker 1: going to do a lot of executive actions or more importantly,
Speaker 1: undo a lot of ad executive activity from Biden. He
Speaker 1: should be able to sign legislation that we have already done.
Speaker 1: And so I tweeted that, and Vivek texted me. We
Speaker 1: go back, you know, we text back and forth, and
Speaker 1: he said, which bills are you talking about? And I
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, I need to think about this, don't
Speaker 1: I before I send a tweet? So I said, the
Speaker 1: Rains Act is the first one that the Doge Committee
Speaker 1: should be after. That would save so much money because
Speaker 1: if and by the way, we've here's the other good
Speaker 1: thing about the Rains Act. Regulations of the executive in
Speaker 1: need of scrutiny? Is it what it is? If there's
Speaker 1: a if there's an administrative rule that's being promulgated that
Speaker 1: costs more than one hundred million dollars to our economy
Speaker 1: or to our government or them combined, then it has
Speaker 1: to come back to Congress for a votes. It's not
Speaker 1: rulemaking yeah, it's lawmaking at that point. Let's draw the
Speaker 1: line in the sand. And that would be so great.
Speaker 1: It would stop so many regulations that that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: promulgated because they're basically laws. It would be the administrative
Speaker 1: branch overstepping their authority and costing money to the government
Speaker 1: and to the people. So that's the one that I
Speaker 1: sus proposed to evade. That's like the first one we
Speaker 1: should do. And the good news about the Rains Act
Speaker 1: is it's already been through committee. It's already been marked
Speaker 1: up in at least two different congresses that I know of,
Speaker 1: because it's come through actually my subcommittee on Regulatory Reform
Speaker 1: on the Judiciary Committee. So we we already had a
Speaker 1: hearing on this, we marked it up, we passed it
Speaker 1: in the House. So I know on January third, we're
Speaker 1: going to have.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's ready.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some new Yeah, we're gonna have some
Speaker 1: new Congressmen. But they can vote on this thing. It's
Speaker 1: been fully vetted. And then let's put that on send
Speaker 1: it to the Senate first of all, and shame them.
Speaker 1: Shame them.
Speaker 2: This is that you see, that's what they see. The
Speaker 2: benefits of the dog. They can't do anything themselves, but
Speaker 2: correct they can point it out and when they when
Speaker 2: and when they and when they do nothing congress or
Speaker 2: senators say no, no, no, we can't cut that program.
Speaker 2: That's gonna end my stage bottom line. Then we know
Speaker 2: who the bad guys are and we can publicly shame them.
Speaker 2: And you'll be right at the forefront of the public shaming.
Speaker 2: Congressman Thomas Massey, judge, and Paulton is listening in on
Speaker 2: you right now, getting ready to queue.
Speaker 1: Him up left. Judge, I know you do that. He
Speaker 1: loves you too.
Speaker 2: We all love each other because yeah, we talk common
Speaker 2: sense and it's a rare commodity these days until we
Speaker 2: get to speak again, and I doubt it'll before the
Speaker 2: end of the year. So Merry Christmas to you and
Speaker 2: your loved ones, best of health and a happy new year,
Speaker 2: and we'll hit the ground running after the first of
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 1: Congressman Massy, Merry Christmas to you and your listeners. And
Speaker 1: Joe Strecker there, who you're probably going to make work
Speaker 1: during the Christmas break even if you're not there.
Speaker 2: His vacation time is up to him. But I won't
Speaker 2: be around. God bless you, Thomas Massy. We'll talk real soon.
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