Speaker 1: Veronica Rose my guest for the evening. You know exactly
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Speaker 1: my guest, Thank you so much for coming on with
Speaker 1: me tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you, Matt, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: So let me start this way because I normally start
Speaker 1: with the basic question how did you get in? How
Speaker 1: did you get into the adult entertainment industry? But I
Speaker 1: want to build on that a little more, if it's possible.
Speaker 1: I want to go a little more in depth with people,
Speaker 1: because I mean, my fucking show is called going deeper. Like,
Speaker 1: do something more than just what we can read on
Speaker 1: your Twitter bio. Prior to becoming Veronica Rose, who were
Speaker 1: you in everyday life? Like what type of person were
Speaker 1: you working? A specific job where you working this and that,
Speaker 1: and then I'd like to build the bridge into how
Speaker 1: we decide to go into the adult entertainment industry. So
Speaker 1: tell me about yourself.
Speaker 3: Cool, I've had like every kind of job possible, Like
Speaker 3: I'm definitely somebody that, like from the time I was
Speaker 3: like thirteen on, I had like two to four jobs
Speaker 3: until the pandemic, and I've done like everything, Like I
Speaker 3: used to like work in an elevator company as like
Speaker 3: the reception is there. I worked at an insurance company,
Speaker 3: I worked at a pizza place, I was a teacher.
Speaker 3: I Yeah, I've done like a lot of those kinds
Speaker 3: of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, So was that just you could
Speaker 1: never find something you liked or was it just a
Speaker 1: bounce for this, make a little more money here, do this,
Speaker 1: go to school for this, maybe become a teacher do that?
Speaker 1: Was it always that? Or could you just never really
Speaker 1: find something you could like zero in on and give
Speaker 1: a shit about long enough to do it for a
Speaker 1: long time?
Speaker 3: You know, I get bored with like one thing at
Speaker 3: a time. So it's like I would like, you know,
Speaker 3: i'd have well, I always had at least two jobs,
Speaker 3: so I'd have like two jobs and then somebody would
Speaker 3: come to me and be like, oh, like what about
Speaker 3: this thing?
Speaker 2: Like are you interested?
Speaker 3: I've like wrote for a magazine for a little bit
Speaker 3: very short amount of time, or.
Speaker 2: Like I worked.
Speaker 3: I can't go too much into it, but I worked
Speaker 3: for a record label, so like I, I would add
Speaker 3: in things where I was just like, well, I can't
Speaker 3: pass that up, you know.
Speaker 2: I was like, that'll be something where I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: in and I'm gonna be like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: Like what about this?
Speaker 3: You know versus it being like my normal like regular
Speaker 3: nine to three or whatever.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, yeah, so okay, all right, And I get
Speaker 1: kind of that. I'm the opposite as a person. I've
Speaker 1: had my day job for like fourteen years now. I
Speaker 1: hate it. I hated it every fucking day, but no,
Speaker 1: it's fine. The one job I had before that, I
Speaker 1: had for seven years, and that was just working at
Speaker 1: best Buy like through college and shit like that, and
Speaker 1: I stayed that's kind of fun though. It was once
Speaker 1: you get a hang of shit, and back then, I
Speaker 1: don't know what retail's like now, but yeah, totally back then, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was fucking he was just busting balls with people
Speaker 1: day you're helping. I was a good employee too, for
Speaker 1: as much of an asshole as I am in my
Speaker 1: normal life, Like when the customer's in front of me,
Speaker 1: I'm not on my phone. I just talk to them.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, hi, can I help you this? And
Speaker 1: that I do the best. And my theory wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 1: Matt loves customers, Hey, take care of this guy. Get
Speaker 1: him the fuck out a year, next one totally and
Speaker 1: get him go. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: You seem very personable. Oh it's like that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you seem very personal too in your
Speaker 1: way to at least jump into these things. I assume
Speaker 1: you didn't get fired from every job you had, so
Speaker 1: people had to accept you into them, and you just.
Speaker 2: Haven't gotten fired. I walked out of jobs. I've been like,
Speaker 2: what are you going to fire me before and they're
Speaker 2: like no, because they don't want to pay you unemployment.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've walked out of jobs. I like, Yes,
Speaker 3: when I worked at that pizza job. I remember, because
Speaker 3: I was like young, there was like prom right and
Speaker 3: I wanted to go to prom and I tried to
Speaker 3: take it off and they were like, no, you can't
Speaker 3: have it off and I was pissed. And then later
Speaker 3: that night, it was like the manager just kept being
Speaker 3: so rude and I was like okay, and she finally
Speaker 3: yelled at me enough and I was like not right,
Speaker 3: and I just like went back and grabbed my purse
Speaker 3: walked out the back, and it was like it was
Speaker 3: like a movie moment, like everybody went outside and I
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 2: Fuck you talk this. I'm like, not all of you,
Speaker 2: I love all of you.
Speaker 3: Fuck you.
Speaker 2: Whatever her name was, I can remember. And then they
Speaker 2: literally like this is so good of an employee.
Speaker 3: I was though that they called me like a week
Speaker 3: later and were like, please come back.
Speaker 1: First of all, I the fact that like they give
Speaker 1: you shit for wanting to take off for prom night.
Speaker 1: I know, I can I ask did that person have
Speaker 1: something against you already? Did it feel that way at all?
Speaker 1: Because that seems fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Well, it was like unfortunate, you know, like I really
Speaker 3: like other women, and like sometimes there can be like
Speaker 3: the competitive thing and you're like, I'm not competing with you, sure,
Speaker 3: I'm just friendly, Like I'm very much like hi, how's
Speaker 3: it going, you know, And that can be I think
Speaker 3: like when I was there, they were kind of like
Speaker 3: you're annoying because we're like two years older than you,
Speaker 3: you know, and they're.
Speaker 2: Like you're so young. She she definitely.
Speaker 3: It was an interesting thing is they were like totally okay.
Speaker 2: Like they would call you names. Okay, like she called me.
Speaker 3: I worked with my friend and she was a burnette,
Speaker 3: and they'd call her the burnette bitch and me the
Speaker 3: blonde bitch.
Speaker 2: And you're like, okay, yeah, yeah, work is this okay?
Speaker 1: I don't think they would fly in twenty twenty six, personally, yeah,
Speaker 1: in like.
Speaker 2: Two thousand or something and went across.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I have never a we are
Speaker 1: polar opposite. I love tattoos. My wife has like fifteen tattoos.
Speaker 1: I have not a single one on my entire y.
Speaker 2: You don't have any.
Speaker 1: I have never. I have never not been released from
Speaker 1: a job. Oh really okay, high school, worked at an AMC,
Speaker 1: got caught stealing, totally on me, don't steal anymore, get it,
Speaker 1: got fired from that one best buy. They offered me
Speaker 1: a promotion. We're a layoff and they were gonna give
Speaker 1: me like three month salary, and I was like twenty four.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta grow up. That's I gotta go somewhere.
Speaker 1: You finish my college degree. My brother died. Sorry, you
Speaker 1: just sound it fun about it. I make it. It made
Speaker 1: it kind of weird. But I finished college. My brother died.
Speaker 1: I'm like, get the fuck out of here. So I
Speaker 1: took the money and I went to the next place,
Speaker 1: where I've been ever since. But I have never written
Speaker 1: a two week's notice. I've never quit a job. I've
Speaker 1: never said I think I'm gonna leave now, thank never once.
Speaker 1: They only tell me to get the fuck out.
Speaker 2: What did you steal from the AMC?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great little scam. Do you want to know? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, it's so funny. I was so worried. I'm
Speaker 1: having this beautiful girl on that does porn work, and
Speaker 1: what gets me booted from YouTube is gonna be this
Speaker 1: scheme we develop. It's a very common scheme, so AMC.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because the biggest, the biggest complaint I
Speaker 1: get on my videos is the host talks about himself
Speaker 1: too much. Let me go, let me go.
Speaker 2: I want to know.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, here's what you do. Okay, when you're stealing
Speaker 1: from a place that is places that sell soda generally
Speaker 1: don't inventory the soda or the popcorn. They can't, you know,
Speaker 1: sixty five kernels he lost. So what they do is
Speaker 1: they inventory the bags, the bags and the cups and
Speaker 1: everything else. Now this shows you how old I was.
Speaker 1: A large soda was like eight bucks and a small
Speaker 1: soda was five bucks. So if you hand them a
Speaker 1: large soda and they're paying cash, and they hand you
Speaker 1: eight dollars, your drawer is now three dollars over. Now
Speaker 1: you do that ten times and your drawer is now
Speaker 1: thirty dollars over. Now your friend comes up and buys
Speaker 1: a soda and you give him thirty dollars too much
Speaker 1: cash back? Wow, and your drawer is even. And their
Speaker 1: inventory is fucked to shit because they're going, we have
Speaker 1: no small cups and we're supposed to have sold all
Speaker 1: these large cups. Yeah, yeah, we have. They called us
Speaker 1: into a theater. They called the whole whole crew into
Speaker 1: a theater and go, guys, whoa, guys, we're having a
Speaker 1: problem with inventory. It seems like we have no small
Speaker 1: cups around here anymore. And I'm just sitting there with
Speaker 1: like my two other friends that are also doing it. Again,
Speaker 1: I've reformed. I'm a much better I found Christ anyway.
Speaker 1: Jesus plus Jesus plus. I'm also not in a job
Speaker 1: I can steal anymore. But uh I We're just sitting
Speaker 1: there and it's like, you know, the worst part is
Speaker 1: what got me called. I was working a concession stand
Speaker 1: by myself one night. It was a slow night, a
Speaker 1: week night, and I screwed something up and I gave
Speaker 1: this woman back too much change by only like two
Speaker 1: dollars or something, and this fucking lady I called her
Speaker 1: brunette bitch. But that was back then. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: Unlike Blonde, I really love. So she goes to the
Speaker 1: front desk and she's like, I think that guy is
Speaker 1: doing something back there because I got the wrong change back,
Speaker 1: and my manager counts it and goes, no, you got
Speaker 1: too much change back. So then they got to look
Speaker 1: at cameras. Then they call you in, then they ask
Speaker 1: you a rat on other people I didn't, and then
Speaker 1: you walk out, and if you're seventeen years old, you
Speaker 1: start crying in your nineteen ninety seven Mercury Sable a
Speaker 1: little bit, uh because you've just embarrassed your entire family.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, yeah, that was me, How about you
Speaker 1: be honest? Have you ever stolen, shoplifted anything like that?
Speaker 1: Had been pretty good right off the bat.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm I'm like, I've stolen, but I'm not
Speaker 3: good at it, Okay, right, I'm yeah, I'm not good
Speaker 3: at it. Like I'm very It's like I think I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm like really honest, and so I
Speaker 3: get very like I.
Speaker 2: I literally one time I stole some lip gloss.
Speaker 3: Okay, I stole some lip gloss, but I got caught
Speaker 3: for somebody else's stolen lip gloss. Like I was at
Speaker 3: you know, thrifties, yeah or write eight or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was there, and I was with my friend and
Speaker 3: she had a bunch of money and I didn't have any.
Speaker 2: So she's like buying a bunch of shit.
Speaker 3: And while she's like over at the cash roister, I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna steal a lipstick. I was like okay,
Speaker 3: And so I picked up a box and there was
Speaker 3: nothing in it, and there was this lady just like
Speaker 3: watching me the whole time.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, great, and so.
Speaker 3: I put it back and then I made the mistake
Speaker 3: of still stealing something. Okay, So I stole something. She
Speaker 3: walked over saw the empty box right that I hadn't
Speaker 3: taken anything out of, and she ran after me and
Speaker 3: she was like, you get back here.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what apparently that's my thing. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't do anything. You're a liar
Speaker 2: like kind of thing.
Speaker 3: And then I like ran to like a parking garage,
Speaker 3: called like my parents and were like, I'm at the library.
Speaker 2: Like I like made an alibi. I'm like, like she's
Speaker 2: gonna find me or something.
Speaker 3: I was just like I was so paranoid about it.
Speaker 3: It was a rough but I mean like I, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was dolen like little things, but I'm not very
Speaker 3: good at it.
Speaker 2: I used to have friends that were really good at it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: until they get caught.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It would be like be like, you stole two thousand
Speaker 3: dollars worth of underwear from Macy's, Like watch, how did
Speaker 3: that even happen?
Speaker 1: See? I like to give myself like a moral like
Speaker 1: a corrupt moral code, right AMC. My friend and I
Speaker 1: got in trouble for something else. It was my friend's
Speaker 1: fault entirely. I was supposed to be supervising him. I
Speaker 1: was a supervisor. He was a supervisor in training. They
Speaker 1: were supposed to fire him, do nothing to me for
Speaker 1: what he did. He gave like tickets out to a
Speaker 1: former employee for free whatever, blah blah blah. Instead they
Speaker 1: take both of us and they demote both of us.
Speaker 1: So I was a supervisor and now I gotta go
Speaker 1: back to sweeping up and whatever and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So I felt spide it. I felt like, fuck this place.
Speaker 1: This place fucked me. I would never steal from an
Speaker 1: individual person. I would never steal from a mom and
Speaker 1: pop shop. Right this place that fucked me, though, Fuck them,
Speaker 1: absolutely fuck that.
Speaker 2: That's like, oh sorry, my thinking about that.
Speaker 3: It's like, uh, it's so interesting that they're so heavy
Speaker 3: handed about it. Well that they're just like I'm gonna
Speaker 3: demote you, and you're like, it's like two.
Speaker 1: Tickets, like crazy, and two weeks before they would the
Speaker 1: guy worked there, they would have given them those tickets
Speaker 1: for free. And you know, are you.
Speaker 3: Are you like a big physical met media person because
Speaker 3: it's like you worked at the AMC and you worked
Speaker 3: at best Buy.
Speaker 2: I'm a really big physical media person.
Speaker 1: I have read so I have read that you like
Speaker 1: your VHS tapes. Is that accurate or no? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I okay, at one point when DVDs were I mean
Speaker 1: not blowing up. I'm not talking about like I was
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three here, but when DVDs were like in
Speaker 1: their prime. I'm the guy who goes like this, you
Speaker 1: know what's kind of like owning records VHS tapes?
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And I went and I just loaded. I bought a
Speaker 1: ton of VHS tapes, all my favorite movies, all this
Speaker 1: and that, and then you know, I stored them in
Speaker 1: a closet for twelve years, and I returned them. I
Speaker 1: am not so much them. No, not return to my
Speaker 1: I donated them or I did something.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like you returned.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't return them. That was the wrong way.
Speaker 1: I returned them to the earth. I gave them to
Speaker 1: Goodwill where they'll they'll rot and fall apart. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: no physical media.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I kept a shelf of all of my favorite Blu
Speaker 1: rays on the highest quality and everything like that, all
Speaker 1: my favorite movies, and then I took the other ones.
Speaker 1: I put them in a binder because I hit an
Speaker 1: age where I just went, I don't have room for
Speaker 1: stuff anymore and I totally look, I want I love stuff,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I just I need to be
Speaker 1: able to fucking move. And that was really so you're
Speaker 1: a big physical media person.
Speaker 2: Then, oh yeah, I have.
Speaker 3: Like somewhere between like five hundred and six hundred vhs.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how many DVDs. I have, probably around
Speaker 3: like two hundred or some three hundred or something like.
Speaker 3: I'm like, my whole house is covered in vhs. Like
Speaker 3: they're like right like if i I'm like looking over
Speaker 3: here and I'm like, let's see, I'll just pull out
Speaker 3: a random one.
Speaker 2: That's this one. Well, this is just the cover.
Speaker 1: But camp nowhere, camp Nowhere? Do you have?
Speaker 2: Nowhere?
Speaker 1: Is Christopher Lloyd?
Speaker 2: Yes, the great Christopher Lloyd.
Speaker 1: Dogma I've met.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: After Clerks Too came out, I went up to Red
Speaker 1: Bank because I'm in Jersey, and I went to meet
Speaker 1: Kevin Smith. Oh my god, and I waited in line
Speaker 1: for sixteen hours, maybe fourteen I forget, and at the
Speaker 1: end he was I can't blame him. I can't blame
Speaker 1: he was there. He signed to the very last person,
Speaker 1: and I go, mister Smith, you know you encourage me.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to film school next year, and
Speaker 1: this and that, and he goes, he signs it. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. Next and I just go, well,
Speaker 1: my life's fucking cooked now.
Speaker 2: So that's fine, Okay. Sometimes it's like the better to
Speaker 2: not meet your heroes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're like, I know you're tired, but also
Speaker 3: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Ty, he was tired, he wanted a cigarette. I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm a busting the guy's balls. Okay, it's fine.
Speaker 2: So what happened to me with a film person recently.
Speaker 3: I won't say who it was, but I was like
Speaker 3: at a movie. I went to go see have you
Speaker 3: heard of I Love Boosters? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: How was it? It was so good? It was like
Speaker 2: wildly good. I mean everything he makes is like amazing.
Speaker 3: It was actually like one of the coolest things I've
Speaker 3: seen for uh, like a panel though, because they did
Speaker 3: the Q and A before the movie, which I've never
Speaker 3: seen before, and so like they had four of the
Speaker 3: actors that were there plus Boots Riley or I guess
Speaker 3: including Boots, and they all came out and so you
Speaker 3: got to see what they were like like regularly. And
Speaker 3: so when you were watching the acting. You were like, oh, like,
Speaker 3: you're an incredible actor.
Speaker 2: That was amazing.
Speaker 3: They were so friendly, Like, but I was there and
Speaker 3: there was this woman who I I've always loved her films,
Speaker 3: like since she's like a queer filmmaker, since I was
Speaker 3: like a teenager, have always loved her.
Speaker 2: And she was there and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do it. I'm growing up.
Speaker 3: And I went up and I was like, Hi, same thing, right,
Speaker 3: Your films have like made a big impact on me,
Speaker 3: Like I'm so grateful, like I just wanted to say it,
Speaker 3: and she was.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, fucked up. I was like, okay, I guess well,
Speaker 2: glad I did.
Speaker 1: But let me okay, let me tie that in and
Speaker 1: try and direct, because what I'll say is I understand
Speaker 1: how you and I both felt like this is yes
Speaker 1: as someone we're looking up to and whatever else, right,
Speaker 1: you are putting yourself in the position to then be
Speaker 1: at an Exotica on day three where the seven thousandth
Speaker 1: guy with a bad haircut and a shitty hat and
Speaker 1: jeans that stink wants to come up and wrap a
Speaker 1: fucking hey. Hey, maybe physical is something different because you
Speaker 1: weren't physical but some guy walking up with a picture
Speaker 1: of you with like like a money shot on your face,
Speaker 1: and he's going, can you sign this because it would
Speaker 1: mean ever and you'll feel great. But I wonder if
Speaker 1: at some point too again day three, you go, oh yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: no problem, yeah, yeah, okay to my totally my fault
Speaker 1: for taking an off track, but let me get it
Speaker 1: back on track. So oh, I love it. In things
Speaker 1: like you're only fans or on Twitter or anything else,
Speaker 1: how do you deal with fan interactions? Do you feel
Speaker 1: like it's important to give them time and genuine or
Speaker 1: is more of the mystery of you what you're pushing for,
Speaker 1: Like what is your brain gonna be? Because those things
Speaker 1: give you such opportunity to create such authenticity and like
Speaker 1: this is really me, but some people don't want that,
Speaker 1: and I understand both ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like for me, I can't I kind
Speaker 3: of can't be not me, Like I'm so like hi,
Speaker 3: you know, da da. But so I'm definitely I think
Speaker 3: the people do a lot of people watch my stuff
Speaker 3: because I'm into physical media and so it's like that
Speaker 3: like group of dudes, you know, like it's like a
Speaker 3: lot of like millennial dudes where they're.
Speaker 2: Like okay, cool, like you actually know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: And then and I'm really friendly, but so uh, but
Speaker 3: I'm not into.
Speaker 2: Social media sure, so like I.
Speaker 3: I'll do Twitter, and i'll do Instagram and stuff, and
Speaker 3: I'll do like yeah clapper and like all of those things,
Speaker 3: but but I don't spend a lot of I'm actually
Speaker 3: trying to spend more time on them sure, because it's
Speaker 3: like on like OnlyFans only has like traffic that you
Speaker 3: bring there, right, So it's when I'm in there, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: let's chat all day, like let me show you what
Speaker 3: you know, ask me all the questions, like tell me
Speaker 3: all the things, like you know, im'mos on to videos,
Speaker 3: but like uh, and I also am like that, I'm like, on,
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm.
Speaker 1: Allowed to say this and say whatever you want.
Speaker 3: I'm on sex Fanther and I really like that one
Speaker 3: too because it's like then you can video with.
Speaker 2: People and so I really get to know people that way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm definitely like connected.
Speaker 3: Like I'm curious because I've never done an expo. I'm
Speaker 3: going to do like my first expos this year, and
Speaker 3: I'm really curious because i do love people Like I'm
Speaker 3: definitely somebody that has like good boundaries.
Speaker 2: I think, like I'm like no too much touching or
Speaker 2: like whatever.
Speaker 3: But I love connecting with fans and like when they
Speaker 3: talk to me a lot of the time, it's like
Speaker 3: they really have a genuine interest in the stuff that
Speaker 3: I've been doing and like been talking about, and like
Speaker 3: some of my fans like I've talked to them on
Speaker 3: OnlyFans for like seven years, you know. Yeah, So I
Speaker 3: like building that relationship. The only thing that I don't
Speaker 3: like is when I'm like somebody and this happens to
Speaker 3: me all the time where people will be like I
Speaker 3: saw you, blah blah blah, and I'm like, can't go
Speaker 3: back to that store.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks.
Speaker 1: Well, And that was gonna be one of my questions too.
Speaker 1: What kind of attention do you like versus what kind
Speaker 1: of attention do you not like? So what makes you excited,
Speaker 1: whether it's from fans, whether it's from production, whether what
Speaker 1: everyone in this industry. It's so funny. I've interviewed some
Speaker 1: of the biggest people like Violent Myers, Violet Myers, who's
Speaker 1: one of the hugest names. She goes I'm an introvert.
Speaker 1: I what the how I've seen you gang Bang? How
Speaker 1: are you an introvert? And then I started asking other
Speaker 1: performers if they come on, would you consider yourself more
Speaker 1: of an intro or an ow introvert? Introvert? Introvert? It
Speaker 1: seems like so many performers in this industry are able
Speaker 1: to put on that mask and do the performing and
Speaker 1: then also kind of just want to settle in and
Speaker 1: be back and they still do their work and they're phenomenal,
Speaker 1: and that's not a problem. I just think it would
Speaker 1: be so hard to do if you weren't an extrovert.
Speaker 2: Well, go ahead, I'm an ambervert.
Speaker 1: Know what that means.
Speaker 3: It's like you're basically in the middle. Like it's like
Speaker 3: I love being by myself. It's like I'm literally my
Speaker 3: favorite person to hang out with. I'm like, yes, let's
Speaker 3: hang out all day me. But but I love people,
Speaker 3: So it's like like I love groups. I don't really
Speaker 3: like going out out, Like I will go out out sometimes,
Speaker 3: but I'm.
Speaker 2: Mainly like a if I'm going out, I'm going to
Speaker 2: the movies.
Speaker 3: Like I'm going to the movies, I'm going to like
Speaker 3: the beach, or like I'm going to.
Speaker 2: I love gardens, so I'm like always in a garden.
Speaker 3: But besides that, I'm like, yeah, I'm a homebody, like
Speaker 3: I stay home. Which is kind of funny too because
Speaker 3: it's like most of the time that I go out,
Speaker 3: I'm going out to go to like it's like literally
Speaker 3: either the movies or a sex party. Like it's like
Speaker 3: it's like they're there's no other two. Mainly for me
Speaker 3: is that I'm like if it's nighttime, if I'm out
Speaker 3: past eight pm, I'm either at the movies or I'm
Speaker 3: at an orgy or something like that.
Speaker 1: It really sounds like this is potentially the greatest career
Speaker 1: you could come across if you really enjoy movies and
Speaker 1: oh you know what, not too bad at sexy they're
Speaker 1: really enjoying it exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love being creative, so it's like like
Speaker 3: with sugs and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So it is something where it's like.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like I love making videos because then
Speaker 3: I get to be creative and I get to think
Speaker 3: about like who am I Like I'm and like I'm
Speaker 3: a nurse, who whatever, you're a patient, You're late, I'm
Speaker 3: super upset about it, like whatever, you know, sure, And
Speaker 3: that's kind of what I do in my regular play
Speaker 3: life too, I mean, not kind of.
Speaker 2: That is what I do.
Speaker 3: Is that I'm like, I don't want to Like, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I have a lot of dom training and so like
Speaker 3: I'm a good dominant, but I'm like, why am I
Speaker 3: hitting you?
Speaker 2: Is there a reason?
Speaker 3: Because I need a reason, like I need it to
Speaker 3: be like a story going on, so.
Speaker 2: Like the like a nun thing or a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Can I ask are you one of those
Speaker 1: girls and this is an insult, This is actually a compliment,
Speaker 1: but they need to push it more. Are you one
Speaker 1: of those girls who's really into psychology?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Kind of not not like official names and this and that.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you say you want to meet a person,
Speaker 1: interact with a person, this and that, are you calculating
Speaker 1: in their head? Like what's making this person tick right now?
Speaker 1: Their next response? What is it? Maybe this is just
Speaker 1: my fucking mental illness, whatever it is. I do that
Speaker 1: like I'm going when I like meeting new people, not
Speaker 1: because I like standing around and meeting new people. I
Speaker 1: like meeting new people because I like knowing how they
Speaker 1: think or being intrigued by how they think. So does
Speaker 1: that Does that come to your mind with that type
Speaker 1: of stuff, Like when I'm at a party, at a
Speaker 1: party doing your content, like it almost seems like you
Speaker 1: you're a gorgeous girl. But and I'm sure maybe there
Speaker 1: are videos of it, but there are plenty of girls
Speaker 1: who just throw on a video of them going at themselves,
Speaker 1: getting railed, getting this and that it almost sounds like
Speaker 1: you put a little more thought into it, like oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: would this intrigue the person? Why would it intrigue the person?
Speaker 1: Why does this work? Go ahead? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, I have like multiple series, so it's like like
Speaker 3: I have this one that I really like that I've
Speaker 3: been doing called The Wedding where it's just like, you know,
Speaker 3: I was like a bride at the wedding, and then
Speaker 3: I was like a random girl at the wedding, and
Speaker 3: then I was like, uh, this is all by myself, right,
Speaker 3: and then I was an ex girlfriend of like the
Speaker 3: the groom at the wedding, and it's like that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff keeps me like I definitely love a dialogue
Speaker 3: before I feel like they're really liking more stuff that's
Speaker 3: like at home, like regular like you're talking to your
Speaker 3: girlfriend kind of stuff, which is like really like that's
Speaker 3: fun and like easy for me to do too. But
Speaker 3: I love like having a whole setup and like a
Speaker 3: script and like an idea of where it's going, and
Speaker 3: I like, I think for me, I love comedy. Sure,
Speaker 3: so for parts of you know, it's funny to me,
Speaker 3: it makes it entertaining to like have a whole thing
Speaker 3: at the beginning where I'm like, oh my god, like
Speaker 3: how did you get in this co closet?
Speaker 2: Oh, you're putting your coat away?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm just hanging out in here, like
Speaker 3: I want it.
Speaker 2: To be fun and funny. But did I answer your question?
Speaker 1: It did? It? Did my I was I was more
Speaker 1: formulating in my head how to how are you? Because
Speaker 1: it sounds like you like the performing and this and
Speaker 1: that this is really out there question, but you're also
Speaker 1: very funny. How are you at dirty talk? I only
Speaker 1: say that because dirty Die I've been with my for
Speaker 1: a long time and I only just recently, in the
Speaker 1: last few years, introduced dirty talk. Here's the problem. We
Speaker 1: are both so sarcastic and oh my god and ball
Speaker 1: busting on each other, which I think I've used that
Speaker 1: term about seven times now. If I'm not from fucking Jersey.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. So we like busting
Speaker 1: each other's balls a lot. And the issue is when
Speaker 1: you're in that moment and you're hot or whatever and
Speaker 1: someone you look at it and I go, I go,
Speaker 1: I really want to suck your tits and she goes,
Speaker 1: oh do you? And I go, oh, okay, you've killed
Speaker 1: mood entirely. Okay, So here's the problem. You are a
Speaker 1: funny person, you were really good at dirty talk. How
Speaker 1: do you separate the two, because that is something where
Speaker 1: you could kill the mood quick not you, but anyway, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean thankfully, like I can turn my like laugh
Speaker 3: kind of like whatever vibe into like just being kind
Speaker 3: of like smiley and very you know, like seductive vibe instead.
Speaker 3: And so, and I'm really good at dirty talk. I've
Speaker 3: I've always been pretty good at dirty talk, but like
Speaker 3: after you know, working in this industry, it's.
Speaker 2: Like you just get good at it.
Speaker 3: But for me, I prefer again, like if there's a
Speaker 3: reason that i'm you know, it's like instead of it
Speaker 3: being like, you know, like I want to fuck you
Speaker 3: right here, then it's like like the whole scene of
Speaker 3: it being like oh my god, like I'm so glad
Speaker 3: that you got home from work early, Like like where
Speaker 3: are we going to do it?
Speaker 1: Kind of a thing, you know, like the narrative of it.
Speaker 1: You like, it's not just out, it's not the dialogue,
Speaker 1: it's everything else surrounding it. And the dialogue is the
Speaker 1: final piece to it.
Speaker 2: It sounds like that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to like round it out because like
Speaker 3: I'm very big on like creating a space in general.
Speaker 3: Like I'm an artist, and so I think you can
Speaker 3: see like this is my house and so.
Speaker 2: I'm anywhere that I am.
Speaker 3: Like I'm really into scent, Like I'm really into like
Speaker 3: the music and the lighting and all of that because
Speaker 3: I'm like you're creating like a space. And I feel
Speaker 3: that same way with like sex, I feel that same
Speaker 3: way with like doing content and those things where it's
Speaker 3: like I want a whole energy around it, right, right?
Speaker 1: How do you how? What is your part in creating
Speaker 1: that energy? Is it just showing up positive, showing up
Speaker 1: with ideas? Is it responding to the mood that's currently there?
Speaker 1: Like what is your end of that?
Speaker 3: I think like I'm pretty good at responding, and like
Speaker 3: I'm a very curious person like to me, like and
Speaker 3: like I can think of a billion ideas, but what's
Speaker 3: really hot to me is like finding out what somebody
Speaker 3: else thinks is hot and then like fluffing that out. Okay,
Speaker 3: you know so, And I'm like, I love when people
Speaker 3: are nervous, Like I love when people are like, ooh,
Speaker 3: like can I you know, can I tell you this
Speaker 3: or whatever? And I'm like, yeah, let's go, like I
Speaker 3: will definitely. I think with most people, I am the
Speaker 3: one who will like introduce the dirty talk, okay, And
Speaker 3: that makes it much easier for other people to get
Speaker 3: into it because it's more of them responding sure to
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, you know yeah, So I'm like, I'll navigate.
Speaker 1: So this is the longest I've gone before I've gotten
Speaker 1: to this question, but that speaks to how fun and
Speaker 1: interesting you've been and how good the conversation's. Then, how
Speaker 1: did you initially decide to leave all those jobs behind
Speaker 1: and enter the adult entertainment industry? Because it's a step,
Speaker 1: and everyone knows it's it's definitely a step, whether or
Speaker 1: not you love it and you're in it for sixty
Speaker 1: more years or you quit in six months, whatever, It
Speaker 1: is it's a step you took outside of the norm.
Speaker 1: So how did you finally like convince yourself or what
Speaker 1: talked you into I gotta I gotta try something else.
Speaker 3: I had a lot of friends that were already doing
Speaker 3: content stuff like very like like just regular kind of
Speaker 3: before pandemic. Right, and then the pandemic hit, and it
Speaker 3: was just like I was watching people.
Speaker 2: Just like blowing up, you know where.
Speaker 3: It was like, Okay, this website used to make me,
Speaker 3: you know, this smaller amount of money, and now my things.
Speaker 2: Are just off the rails. And so I was like
Speaker 2: I could do this.
Speaker 3: That's like something that I'm already doing, Like I was
Speaker 3: already starting to get into it, sure, and so like
Speaker 3: I mean I started, I started OnlyFans and all of
Speaker 3: that seven years ago.
Speaker 2: So it was right before the.
Speaker 3: Pandemic, right, I got like really lucky of getting some
Speaker 3: standing feet like while that was going on. Sure, but
Speaker 3: I definitely was like watching the people around me and
Speaker 3: just being like Okay, like you have a lot of autonomy,
Speaker 3: like you're doing your own schedule, You're able to like
Speaker 3: you're your own boss, Like you're making a significant amount
Speaker 3: more money than like you.
Speaker 2: Can at like a you know, there's a ceiling.
Speaker 3: On a regular job, sure, and like on like content
Speaker 3: creation stuff, there's not you kind of like find your
Speaker 3: ceiling as you go, but like there's not really actually
Speaker 3: a ceiling. Like there's girls that make you know, three
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: A month or whatever.
Speaker 3: Sure, and girls that make fifty thousand dollars a month
Speaker 3: which is huge.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, for sure, why old amount of money?
Speaker 3: Or there's girls you know, it's like we make regular
Speaker 3: incomes to like it's but it's a I think, like
Speaker 3: the autonomy of it. I never want to have a
Speaker 3: boss ever. Again, I don't respond, Well.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because, uh, those I've been I've been
Speaker 1: getting I've been doing a lot of interviews lately, and
Speaker 1: a lot of people they get hit with the shame thing,
Speaker 1: shame of this industry you're working in. And I say,
Speaker 1: as a guy who does this, now I work from home,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to still use the same analogy as
Speaker 1: a guy who does office work still during the day. Right,
Speaker 1: You're hearing that from guys who sit under fluorescent lights
Speaker 1: after driving an hour to an office and driving an
Speaker 1: hour home. If they could show their dick and make
Speaker 1: the money some of these girls are making regardless of
Speaker 1: their dick. They would do that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh, I mean, like it's kind of interesting
Speaker 3: because I mean it's very interesting. It's like completely change
Speaker 3: the financial makeup of like the world for like women.
Speaker 3: It's changed that so much where it's just like the
Speaker 3: playing field is.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not level, but it's.
Speaker 3: Definitely like a lot of women that wouldn't have that
Speaker 3: money now.
Speaker 2: Do have that money. And so for me, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I've I'm like trying to think. It's
Speaker 2: pretty hard to like make me feel shameful.
Speaker 3: I don't feel shameful at all about like my work
Speaker 3: or like sex or any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm more of like a like, I guess, more annoyed
Speaker 2: by it. You know. I'm like, your stigma is dumb,
Speaker 2: and let me tell you why.
Speaker 1: And you know what, the stigma doesn't even make sense
Speaker 1: because the outside perception is Veronica here goes to set,
Speaker 1: she has sex with a guy for an hour, she
Speaker 1: cleans up, she gets her fifty thousand dollars check, and
Speaker 1: heads home and never does anything the rest of the night.
Speaker 1: Your job is performer yeah, media manager okay, which you
Speaker 1: said you're trying to get better at with social media,
Speaker 1: but media manager editing potentially yeah, uh, admin work with
Speaker 1: contracts and signing and everything else. You have traded your
Speaker 1: whatever eight hour day in an office for a sixteen
Speaker 1: hour lifestyle job, you know, to make your life easier.
Speaker 1: So absolutely, I just absolutely.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can do it from my couch ch
Speaker 2: hanging out with my cat and like watching crime while
Speaker 2: like editing.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this because you did say
Speaker 1: something and I agree with you one hundred percent one.
Speaker 1: This type of work has definitely leveled the playing field
Speaker 1: to an extent, not even but leveled it a little more.
Speaker 1: It's leveled I think the industry even more. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you have the right, if you have the option
Speaker 1: to do it yourself, you get the advertising and the
Speaker 1: benefits of shooting from mainstream people and that's a great thing,
Speaker 1: and you get the experience and you get the ability
Speaker 1: to Now you're not leaving with a fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: check unless you do something fucked up, but you are
Speaker 1: showing up to set. You are the performer. You're going
Speaker 1: to go home after you sign your paperwork and you
Speaker 1: won't get residuals on that going forward forever and ever potentially.
Speaker 1: But it's a nice day work, right. I totally lost
Speaker 1: where I was going with that. Oh my point was
Speaker 1: the stigma. Yeah, it just doesn't even make sense. It
Speaker 1: really doesn't. If you want to rip porn girls because
Speaker 1: you have some moral thing. I don't agree with it,
Speaker 1: but like I at least understand it. Not again, not
Speaker 1: agree at all, but I understand where you're coming from
Speaker 1: in that sense, if you're a religious person, if you're
Speaker 1: ripping porn performers, as like, oh, she's just lazy, she
Speaker 1: doesn't want to work a real job. Dude, No one
Speaker 1: wants to work a fucking real job, let's be honest.
Speaker 2: And capitalism is fucked. I'm like, we've all we're all
Speaker 2: in a trap with capitalism.
Speaker 3: I'm just finding I think that it can be really
Speaker 3: what's the word for it, Like, I think that it
Speaker 3: can be really disorienting for those people of them not
Speaker 3: understanding like that, You're like, yeah, why would I not
Speaker 3: do this?
Speaker 2: Like why would I? Why would I.
Speaker 3: Choose to not do something where I'm making I'm way
Speaker 3: more financially stable, Like I am my own boss. I
Speaker 3: get to do these things. It doesn't hurt anybody, Like
Speaker 3: where's your damage?
Speaker 2: Heather?
Speaker 3: Mean, And so with those people a lot of the time,
Speaker 3: like I am more, I'm like I feel badly for them.
Speaker 1: I was just I was just gonna say to me,
Speaker 1: it feels more like I feel more pity, like I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you hate your gig so much?
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I'm like, damn, I'm so sorry that that
Speaker 3: affects you like that, because like that must be hard,
Speaker 3: you know, sure, and like be mad at capitalism, don't
Speaker 3: be mad at me, like you know, we weren't made
Speaker 3: to do this.
Speaker 1: Yet. Yes, and no I'm not. I swear I won't
Speaker 1: turn it into political I will just say, if it
Speaker 1: wasn't under capitalism, you might be capped at a thousand
Speaker 1: bucks a month and required to do x amount. I
Speaker 1: don't know what other plan that would be so so
Speaker 1: rampant capitalism, I'll agree with you crony capitalism, but like.
Speaker 2: I mean general capitalism.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I think I'm looking more for like
Speaker 1: the capitalism that that enables you girls to be able
Speaker 1: to perform and to make as much as you want.
Speaker 1: That's capitalism, I truthful. So I'm not disagreeing with you
Speaker 1: on any political point. I totally get it. It's run
Speaker 1: us all fucking dry. I get it. No, but I
Speaker 1: think it is great. And it is kind of a
Speaker 1: form of capitalism that you get to decide how much
Speaker 1: you want to make. Essentially definitely capitalism. We live in
Speaker 1: a capitalist society.
Speaker 2: I have to be. We're all capitalized unless you're like living.
Speaker 3: Off of the land and like getting all of your
Speaker 3: own food. It's like like, I definitely, whether I like
Speaker 3: it or not, I'm a capitalist.
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, I totally get it though, but
Speaker 1: you know what it is. And this is no offense
Speaker 1: to any Again, the office dwellers like like I am,
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say. They they don't know how to
Speaker 1: use capitalism to their advantage, like a lot of performers do, right,
Speaker 1: Like you guys have the opportunity you said you can
Speaker 1: if you want to sit there and work twenty hours
Speaker 1: a day, really like figure out what content people want
Speaker 1: this and that you can make unlimited money to an extent,
Speaker 1: right like some of these performers that have made millions
Speaker 1: and this and that or unfortunately we have seen the
Speaker 1: average OnlyFans performer brings home something like one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty six dollars a month. So let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: what sets you apart from the people who don't pull
Speaker 1: in that much. Let's say looks are entirely the same.
Speaker 1: What do you do in your process of making content
Speaker 1: of either researching what people want? Or are you just
Speaker 1: one of the lucky ones where your gut instinct fucking
Speaker 1: hits every time? Because that happens.
Speaker 2: I think it's just social media.
Speaker 3: Okay, honestly, it's like people, because that's how people get
Speaker 3: to know you, you know, where they're like, oh, you're this
Speaker 3: like weird, silly girl who like well, dance on a
Speaker 3: pole sometimes and like talks a lot about social media
Speaker 3: and has like very strong opinions, Like I've had multiple
Speaker 3: because I have I do have very strong opinions. And
Speaker 3: sometimes I'll yell about it on my on my Instagram
Speaker 3: and I'll have like men like on video chats or whatever,
Speaker 3: and they'll be like, I watched your Instagram where you
Speaker 3: were yelling and like I just adore you.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, thank you, so.
Speaker 3: But I think that, I mean, it is a really
Speaker 3: interesting thing that where where.
Speaker 2: It is mostly social media.
Speaker 3: Sure, because people have to see who you are to
Speaker 3: want to get to know you on those platforms, especially
Speaker 3: like OnlyFans because they don't have any.
Speaker 1: Like uh uh girls like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like you're not there, like you have to
Speaker 3: bring people there. And so like when I go over
Speaker 3: to other platforms, I'll be like, you know, tell me
Speaker 3: where you came from. Sure, So that that way I
Speaker 3: know if you're from Twitter, Clopper, Instagram or like.
Speaker 2: What, and then that way I can log it in
Speaker 2: my brain.
Speaker 3: But it's definitely when I'm doing a lot of social media,
Speaker 3: I'm definitely getting a lot more cash than I am
Speaker 3: when I'm slacking.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Okay, all right, So yeah they do. It
Speaker 1: seems like your audience does want active engagement, which it
Speaker 1: makes sense. They're coming to you because you are a
Speaker 1: unique individual. You are presenting them something that I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand there are like media heads out
Speaker 1: there that collect stuff and this and that. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: never understood how deep some of those communities really do
Speaker 1: fucking run though. So you have not the advantage as
Speaker 1: if you took advantage of it, but the advantage of
Speaker 1: that was something you were into. Now you can kind
Speaker 1: of pull those guys in a little bit too, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And like I've made like relationships with them too. That's
Speaker 3: so fun because then we can like share stuff like
Speaker 3: on you know, on Instagram, there's people where like, uh,
Speaker 3: lunch meet he and I will like chat. He's like,
Speaker 3: hat we've done like lives together, you know, on Instagram together,
Speaker 3: because it's like it's a language that I speak really easy. Sure,
Speaker 3: and so I think that when I connect with those people.
Speaker 3: I mean also on my Only Fans, I do a
Speaker 3: lot of lives. I go live like at least twice
Speaker 3: a week, and so from that people get to know
Speaker 3: me a lot. Like I've done polls on it before
Speaker 3: on my Only Fans where I was like who.
Speaker 2: Am I to you?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Am I your neighbor? Am I your stepmom? Am I
Speaker 2: your girlfriend?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Am I a stranger? Who the fuck am I? And
Speaker 3: like overwhelmingly it's girlfriend. It's like it's like girlfriend and
Speaker 3: neighbor and stranger.
Speaker 1: I would put you as like girl in high school
Speaker 1: I was scared of. But secretly I tell my friend
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I mean i'd fuck her though, but
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god, she might be a little crazy,
Speaker 1: but I look at her.
Speaker 2: But I kind of a really into her. That's the vibe.
Speaker 1: Okay, vibe. Okay, all right, that's fair, that's fair. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this though, So you've done other things online,
Speaker 1: and again you have this passion for this other stuff.
Speaker 1: If you could make the same amount of money, would
Speaker 1: you make that? If you could do VHS reviews on
Speaker 1: on TikTok, on Instagram on whatever it was wherever they
Speaker 1: were popular, and say you can make same amount of
Speaker 1: money and say the progression was going to be the
Speaker 1: same amount, would you still do this industry or do
Speaker 1: you think you would dedicate yourself more full time to
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I could have like a VHS store and
Speaker 3: I made the same amount of money, I would do that. Okay,
Speaker 3: But if it's an online like if it's like Instagram
Speaker 3: or Twitter and those, no, sure, but maybe you two.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's probably not.
Speaker 3: I really I'm I really get a lot off of
Speaker 3: other people's energy. And like I said, like I'm an
Speaker 3: ambiver or ombiver or what I think it's ambiver And
Speaker 3: so I spend a lot of time in my house
Speaker 3: and so having those interactions with them like online and
Speaker 3: like building his relationships like on live and like through
Speaker 3: sex panther of like videoing with people.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, I really like that energy.
Speaker 3: It's something that I've learned more to like bring with
Speaker 3: me into actually filming scenes like by myself where I'm
Speaker 3: just like, okay, like if I were talking to so
Speaker 3: and so, you know, if there were these people.
Speaker 2: Online, how would I be doing this?
Speaker 3: Like I'd be probably moving differently than I would if
Speaker 3: I'm just like you're doing a video by yourself.
Speaker 1: Sure you know, sure, yeah, okay, all right. I always
Speaker 1: just wonder because and look, I love what I do.
Speaker 1: I love that I get to interview porn stars. This
Speaker 1: started out as a comedy show right as covid started
Speaker 1: with my buddy who was a co host. We had
Speaker 1: one porn star on it blew up and I said,
Speaker 1: let's figure it out. I've always said this, I don't
Speaker 1: give it. I don't give a shit about NASCAR. But
Speaker 1: if you told me I have the opportunity to talk
Speaker 1: to the most important NASCAR people in the world, the
Speaker 1: most successful, the most knowledgeable, I would learn about NASCAR
Speaker 1: and talk to them and interview it, you know, because
Speaker 1: my belief, my passion is just meeting people and then
Speaker 1: introducing them to the world, telling the world how I,
Speaker 1: you know, met them, how this came about. Whatever. So
Speaker 1: I love that you have passions, and it seems like
Speaker 1: it's gonna really show in all of your content. It
Speaker 1: must really show I have we are running out of
Speaker 1: I have to talk about your content otherwise people in
Speaker 1: the comments are gonna go, what the fuck is this
Speaker 1: guy talking about? Okay, okay, I have to ask this.
Speaker 1: You're smoking content? Oh yeah, are you an actual smoker?
Speaker 1: Or are you I worked retail a long time, so
Speaker 1: you got to tell the truth on this one. I
Speaker 1: got yellow hands. That's how it is. Are you an
Speaker 1: actual smoker? Is it just for the content? And then
Speaker 1: I'm got I got specific questions about the smoking.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm an ex smoker. Okay, fair enough, But I
Speaker 3: do smoke a lot of weed.
Speaker 1: Fair enough? Yeah that's yeah. Yeah, yeah, you know I
Speaker 1: was the problem. I went from pack a day. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: that was my question? What was what was what was yours?
Speaker 1: What was your brand? What was it?
Speaker 2: Oh? Lucky strikes lights.
Speaker 1: Oh see, you're the scary girl who's hot. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. This girl smokes fun what is this
Speaker 1: nineteen forty three smoking look strikes over there.
Speaker 3: They would get them at the I would go to
Speaker 3: the same chevron to go buy them when I was
Speaker 3: like younger, and they like there was like one month
Speaker 3: where I was broke so I couldn't buy them.
Speaker 2: And I came in. I was like, we're are my cigarettes?
Speaker 3: And they were like, you didn't come in, so we
Speaker 3: didn't get them. Nobody else buys them but you.
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, I was go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Sorry did you ever smoke or were you a smoker?
Speaker 1: I was a packag day camel menthol okay, oh whoa yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah choice. I got dumped by my high school girlfriend
Speaker 1: in her first year of college. Right by the way,
Speaker 1: I started dating my wife six weeks later, who is
Speaker 1: now my wife, And yeah, we've been together eighteen years,
Speaker 1: so like I haven't been single since like seventh grade
Speaker 1: something like that. Totally, which kind of makes sense with
Speaker 1: the job thing too. I hate change totally. You just
Speaker 1: fixed my brain. That's great, But you know what, I
Speaker 1: was dumb. I made the jump. I made the jump
Speaker 1: to vapes and and oh it is now I'm bad man.
Speaker 1: I will really I'm gonna have to have like an
Speaker 1: evil dead thing where they take me into the woods
Speaker 1: and just lock me up in a cabin. When I
Speaker 1: eventually decide to quit, it's gonna be, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: I can't do the vape. It's like so harsh.
Speaker 3: And it's funny because like I smoke a lot of weed,
Speaker 3: and I smoke like infused weed and like all that shit,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, I'll smoke confused weed all day.
Speaker 2: You give me a.
Speaker 3: Vape and I'm like, first of all, my lungs and
Speaker 3: my throat are like like.
Speaker 2: Can't handle it. And then I'm just like, this is
Speaker 2: so much smoke. Where did it come from? Where is
Speaker 2: it going?
Speaker 1: Like I just you know, it's so funny, though I
Speaker 1: find cigarette smokes so much harsher. But I can give
Speaker 1: a cigarette and I can talk through it. I can't
Speaker 1: talk through a vape for some reason. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's technically think or what, but I try to white. No.
Speaker 3: No, it's like completely taking up everything and no, like, uh,
Speaker 3: if I'm smoking, it's funny because it's like I smoke
Speaker 3: weeds so much, so it's like I'll like drink water
Speaker 3: and then like blow it out or I'm like talking,
Speaker 3: then blow it.
Speaker 2: Up, you know, and all kinds of stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Vape it's like no speaking.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, now this is what we're doing right now,
Speaker 1: just vape.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but
Speaker 3: I do a lot of smoking on the Pea Hub.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh okay, yeah, point yeah.
Speaker 2: I do a lot of smoking on there.
Speaker 3: And that's how I end up having a lot of
Speaker 3: people on my only fans too that they like the cigarettes.
Speaker 1: So then can you not give them that anymore? Do
Speaker 1: you have to tell them? Do you have to say
Speaker 1: you have to go back to the old videos Veronica
Speaker 1: doesn't do that anymore? Or do we make a film film? Okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough, fair enough, I'll.
Speaker 3: Do it for I'm like sure, why not, like because
Speaker 3: it's not like I'm smoking, like you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: smoking a packa day anymore, and so I'm and I'm
Speaker 3: not really they're not gonna like this. I don't really
Speaker 3: like cigarette. So it's like I'll smoke and then it's
Speaker 3: not something where later I'm like, damn, I wish I
Speaker 3: had a cigarette.
Speaker 2: As soon as I'm done, I'm like where is my
Speaker 2: weed and water? I need to go brush my teeth?
Speaker 1: So why'd you start? What did you start? Because it
Speaker 1: was something to do.
Speaker 3: I started because I noticed that there was like a
Speaker 3: lack of it, like there was like a space for
Speaker 3: that in the industry.
Speaker 2: And then as soon as I posted, people.
Speaker 3: Were like more and so that made me realize that
Speaker 3: and also like you don't have to be naked for it.
Speaker 3: So it's like a really good thing to do on
Speaker 3: PI hub because I'm just sitting there smoking and talking
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, if you want to see more,
Speaker 3: go to only fans or you know, find one of
Speaker 3: my other sites. But a lot of them come from
Speaker 3: just that of like watching me smoke and like listening
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: Talk interesting all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I do a lot of jois.
Speaker 1: How do you do that for more than thirty seconds?
Speaker 2: I have that.
Speaker 1: I totally get it, But like I would be like
Speaker 1: like if right now, camera, you know, we turn everything
Speaker 1: off and you're like, hey, talk me through it. I
Speaker 1: would get about twenty seconds in and be like, I
Speaker 1: guess keep touching yourself, Like like, how do you extend
Speaker 1: that with a JOI?
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I do a lot of like I'm
Speaker 2: telling them what to do.
Speaker 1: No, I know. What I'm saying is if I were
Speaker 1: doing that, if I were taking your role, I would
Speaker 1: have no idea how to extend it outside of like
Speaker 1: ten sentences. Yeah, how do you stretch that?
Speaker 3: I mean, it goes along with the dirty talk right
Speaker 3: where it's just like I mean, I think also people
Speaker 3: like when you say things really slow. I talk like
Speaker 3: this in my regular but if I'm doing a jhui,
Speaker 3: then I'm going to be like, oh, hi, it's you,
Speaker 3: what have you been doing? Come over here? You know,
Speaker 3: like that kind of slowness. And I think also just
Speaker 3: like working through like okay, for instance, if I'm doing
Speaker 3: a smoking video, then I'm like, oh my god, you
Speaker 3: love watching me smoke, don't you You love seeing all
Speaker 3: of the smoke going my lungs and come all the
Speaker 3: way out.
Speaker 2: Don't you wish that you could breathe it in?
Speaker 3: Like, oh, keep doing what you're doing, think about my
Speaker 3: smoke going all the way deep in your lungs. Like
Speaker 3: you're just kind of like coaxing them along of what
Speaker 3: they're doing while also giving them more brain input.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, you're building a narrative. You're building a narrative, two
Speaker 1: questions for you, and then we got to wrap this up.
Speaker 1: But let me ask, what are some of the dream
Speaker 1: scenes you want to do going forward? If you were
Speaker 1: to get invites from mainstream and this and that, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you already have. What is something we're gonna really
Speaker 1: try and tackle. Is there a specific like niche or
Speaker 1: fetish like obviously a boy girl, girl girl, this and
Speaker 1: that we understand? Is there anything that like dials in
Speaker 1: where you go? I gotta try that on camera obviously.
Speaker 3: I mean, so I haven't done I haven't done any things.
Speaker 2: With other people on camera.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm excited to do girl girl Eventually. I
Speaker 3: would really like to do like an mm F scene. Okay,
Speaker 3: do you mean like that kind of stuff or yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I totally no, I can't no no, no. So
Speaker 1: you I mean you want to get in and start
Speaker 1: interacting with people in that sense? It sounds like yeah.
Speaker 2: For sure, Oh yeah, I would really love that.
Speaker 3: It's like I'm trying to figure out kind of who
Speaker 3: to reach out to to be like, Hi, do you
Speaker 3: want to do content together? I have some friends that
Speaker 3: were also like, yes, let's do content together, but like
Speaker 3: it's kind of funny because I am really like slutty.
Speaker 3: So like I've done like gang bangs or like should
Speaker 3: be I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, You're totally fine, say whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've done gang bangs like in my real life
Speaker 3: mm hmm, and like that was really fun.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I don't know if I could do that,
Speaker 2: Like I'm like on a porn set.
Speaker 3: I'm like, would I be able to handle that many
Speaker 3: big disks? Trying to figure it out, but I'm definitely
Speaker 3: like I work my way up.
Speaker 2: Person.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, you sound like you gotta
Speaker 1: take the steps. Don't try and jump to the top. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: right exactly. Some people try and jump to the top
Speaker 1: and they make it. It's like whoa Jesus. Really, some
Speaker 1: people don't and then you already jumped, You're halfway. It's
Speaker 1: a tumble, right Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I want to like get more community of like
Speaker 3: other content creators because it's like there's no content creators
Speaker 3: in northern California.
Speaker 2: I mean there's like some, right, but it's.
Speaker 3: Like that's not what's here, gotcha, it's la you know,
Speaker 3: Well no I don't.
Speaker 1: I've never been west of Philadelphia, but yes, no, yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been up and down the East Coast my wife
Speaker 1: and I. You might like this or you might hate this.
Speaker 1: I might be judging you by your tattoos and your personality.
Speaker 1: My wife and I go our only vacation. We take
Speaker 1: it once a year. We go up to Salem for
Speaker 1: Halloween every year, Salem, Massachusetts, and we've been going for
Speaker 1: the last twelve years, I think, And this we just
Speaker 1: booked it. This might be our last year because we're
Speaker 1: buying a house this year. We want to have kids.
Speaker 1: It might be our last year for a while. I'll
Speaker 1: put it that way. Yeah, yeah, man. We found an
Speaker 1: airbnb like ten twelve years ago I think it was.
Speaker 1: And the guy charges one hundred and ten bucks a night.
Speaker 1: It's half a mile from the center of town. The
Speaker 1: hotel charges eight hundred a night for that same week.
Speaker 1: And this guy goes, I love having you guys here.
Speaker 1: I'll only book this week to you if you want it,
Speaker 1: and we go, well, Edgar, you.
Speaker 2: Have a deal, okay, like new best hear?
Speaker 1: Yeah for real, Edgar. Yeah, I'll leave. I'll leave my
Speaker 1: wife at home as long as Edgar is like, stay
Speaker 1: up there all right. Last question for you, Veronica By
Speaker 1: the way, folks in this has been one of the
Speaker 1: most fun interviews I've done. I will say that I
Speaker 1: don't I hope I informed you about Veronica's personality, but
Speaker 1: if not, make sure you head on over. Uh. You
Speaker 1: know exactly where you can find her at Veronica Rose XO.
Speaker 1: And the links to everything are going to be in
Speaker 1: the episode description, including her website, which takes you to
Speaker 1: a link tree, which I'm still scared to plug because
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to fucking come down
Speaker 1: hard on me on YouTube. But I will make sure
Speaker 1: that link is in there. Last question, where do we
Speaker 1: want this to go? Is this your career for the
Speaker 1: rest of your life? Is this what you want to do?
Speaker 1: Do you eventually want to do you have a goal
Speaker 1: like X amount of money and then I can do
Speaker 1: this instead or I interviewed de d White, who is
Speaker 1: seventy one years old, still doing as she says it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't use the term BBC gangbangs seventy one. By
Speaker 1: the way, I'm half her age and I look like
Speaker 1: dog shit compared to what she can do on a
Speaker 1: daily basis.
Speaker 2: Totally, so, totally, so legendary.
Speaker 1: What do you see future wise, what do you want
Speaker 1: this to become? And obviously you're just at the beginning,
Speaker 1: but is there a thought in mind of an exit
Speaker 1: plan eventually or are we just going to run this
Speaker 1: until you know they throw you in a coffin in lingerie.
Speaker 2: We're just gonna run it. I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 2: see what happens.
Speaker 3: I think I'm somebody that often things will like fall
Speaker 3: in my lap where I'm like, oh, okay, that's the
Speaker 3: direction that I'm supposed to go in. I'm part of
Speaker 3: Like I'm hoping that at some point I'll also be
Speaker 3: able to do like some sort of like art interior
Speaker 3: decorator type of like situation like create sets is like
Speaker 3: basically what I want to do because like this is
Speaker 3: my life, like this is my brain, like put all
Speaker 3: over the wall. So I would like to do that
Speaker 3: at some point, but I don't. I don't think that
Speaker 3: I would do that, and then be like and no, right.
Speaker 1: Right, right, Well again, let's go back to the very
Speaker 1: beginning conversation. Sex designer is another fucking job of yours.
Speaker 1: When you're independent and doing your own thing, that's an
Speaker 1: it's yeah, uh, ladies and gentlemen, my guest today Veronica Rose.
Speaker 1: You can find her at Veronica Rose XO. Veronica, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming along with me. You were
Speaker 1: so much my pleasure. It was so much fun. And
Speaker 1: I was nervous because I was really tired today, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I really hope this person has a
Speaker 1: lot of energy and can kick my ass and get
Speaker 1: me into gear. And you did, and I will be
Speaker 1: good the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so glad you're gonna laugh at this.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm really tired today, and so I
Speaker 3: had the same exact thing.
Speaker 2: But this is me vaguely tired.
Speaker 1: I love both of us are tired. And the comments
Speaker 1: are the comments are going to be. These people just
Speaker 1: screamed at each other the whole time.
Speaker 3: Well, we don't know about her, but we do know
Speaker 3: that she likes to scream a lot.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Veronic Rose Brownka, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: For coming on. Thank you. May beat it.