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Speaker 1: Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence, and is

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not intended for all audiences.

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Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised.

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Speaker 3: And I loved and I could see my mom laying

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on the floor.

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Speaker 4: I pushed the door open and I went to check

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her to see.

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Speaker 2: No, she was dead.

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Speaker 3: And I turned and I saw my father.

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Speaker 2: There was blood everywhere.

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Speaker 1: This is season thirteen, episode three hundred and fifty five

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of Sword and Scale, a show that reveals that the

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worst monsters are real. Riverview, Florida, is a quiet suburb

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outside of Tampa that's built around routine workdays, church services,

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and family businesses that have been passed down for decades.

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But in November of twenty fifteen, that routine was broken.

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Inside an interview room at the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office,

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homicide detectives spoke with a middle aged woman named Michelle Best.

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Speaker 5: Oh, Derek, can I.

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Speaker 6: Get up a regular time every morning? We were sitting

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there having coffee. We're just a few minutes away from

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getting up to go start getting ready for work, and

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I got I had just picked up myself one to

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look at the time. It was ringing in and when

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I answered it, he was crying and said you need

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to get over to moments now, and I saw what happened.

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Speaker 7: He says, you need to go here now, and we

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live right across the street. So put some extra clothes

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on and I walked over.

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Speaker 1: Michelle told detectives that on the morning of November twelfth,

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she received a frantic phone call from her oldest brother, Robert.

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He told her to hurry to her parents' house, a

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house that sat just across the street from her own.

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Their parents were sixty nine year old Shirley Best and

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seventy year old Virgil Best.

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Speaker 2: They've been married forty forty five years.

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Speaker 8: Other than normal marital differences, any marital issues, nope. Did

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they grow up here in the Tampa Bay area.

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Speaker 6: My father grew up very poor in Vanity County, Okay,

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I get the parish area, and then my mom grew

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up hearing and Gibson to Actually, her father was a

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fish farmer for thirty some one years, so she's been

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in fish.

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Speaker 2: Farming her whole life.

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Speaker 1: Shirley and Virgil owned and operated Quality Finn's Fish Farm,

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a family business that ran across the five acres of

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land between their home.

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Speaker 9: They have fish ponds out here and they raise and

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sail Paige.

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Speaker 1: So this that I'm looking at in front of me,

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those are all That's all his propagation, all of that.

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Speaker 2: It runs deep way back there into the with and length. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Virgil handled most of the day to day labor on

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the fish farm, and he also employed his twenty one

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year old grandson to keep it running.

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Speaker 10: Him and Annie, my grandma. I call him Papa and Annie.

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They own the fish farm and Papa is normally out

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there working on it, and Annie is counting up fish

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and helping him with it. But Papa doesn't most of

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the work, so I work with him.

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Speaker 1: Surely. And Virgil were also devout Christians who were heavily

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involved in their local church. They attended services every Wednesday

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and Sunday, and Shirley saying in the church choir.

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Speaker 7: They're big in the church. They go to Gibson Baptist.

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Speaker 5: She's in the choir.

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Speaker 7: They're always involved in the church. They have been for

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the last few year, a couple of years.

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Speaker 8: Okay, did you see them coming and going last night

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to church?

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Speaker 1: Because we were in the house alongside their faith. Shirley

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and Virgil were also firm supporters of the Second Amendment.

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They were comfortable with firearms, and guns were common in

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their home.

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Speaker 5: Tell me about their guns.

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Speaker 10: Papa always has guns near him. He has a gun

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on his nightstand, and I'm pretty sure he has a

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gun not on his hip, but in the couch.

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Speaker 5: Where does she keep her gun?

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Speaker 9: She?

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Speaker 10: I think she just bought a gun on a brand

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new one and she keeps it in her purse. Where

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does she keep it? In the house the Senate as

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you walk in, as soon as you walk into your

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left there's like bibles sitting there and it's right next

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to the Bible. Those are people that to close sit

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with guns in their laps. Why what happened? Something happened

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in the past. No, they're just really country. They are

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very old time believe in the Second Amendment people.

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Speaker 1: Well, they had deep ties to their church and strong

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beliefs about guns. Nothing mattered more to Virgil and Shirley

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than their three children, Robert Todd and Michelle. Todd and

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Michelle lived close by, so close that all of their

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properties were connected.

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Speaker 9: My sister, myself, and my parents' backyard come together, okay,

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go around the corner is my sister and then me. Okay,

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So a lot of our backyards okay.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So when when you leave the house do you

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have do you see their house every morning?

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Speaker 7: Every morning, every morning?

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Speaker 2: So I want you to think about this morning. Was

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there anything on this morning?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 9: Why I left my house like I always do, same time.

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I always look at their house, just always look at

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the house. I noticed the living room light on.

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Speaker 3: The living room light was on.

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Speaker 9: I thought I was on because they always they always

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turned the lights off when they go to bed, and

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this was on. And my first thought was, okay, well

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maybe they just couldn't sleep me. Both got up early

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for some reason. You know, I didn't learn too much

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of it at that time. I still didn't until I

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you know, my sister called me this morning.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Virgil and Shirley were also close to their children's spouses,

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especially Michelle's husband Derek.

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Speaker 11: And any issues going on, oh God, no, love that man.

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I would do anything for him and vice versa. We

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just we just worked on my.

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Speaker 2: Jeep about three weeks ago and he helped me.

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Speaker 11: We we do jeep events together. We we have no problems.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 8: And what about their relationship as a husband and wife,

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any issues?

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Speaker 2: And you know they loved she loved if she adored him.

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Speaker 1: The only one of Shirley and Virgil's children who didn't

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live right next to them was their oldest son, forty

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nine year old Robert Best. Even so, he did live nearby,

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just about ten minutes away.

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Speaker 12: My parents are very private. There's not too many people

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that go over there. They're very security conscious. They're constitutionalists.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 12: Seems their prevers any marital issues between them, I don't believe.

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Speaker 9: So.

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Speaker 2: They seemed very happy to me.

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Speaker 1: As Shirley and Virgil looked ahead to life in their seventies,

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they started talking with their children about selling the fish

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farm and finally retiring.

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Speaker 6: Their finances were fine. I mean, the farm has been slow.

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They've been talking the next couple of years of retiring,

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selling the farm.

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Speaker 5: Both of your parents kind of very busy.

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Speaker 7: They were for they worked very hard.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, they worked very hard their whole life, very.

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Speaker 7: Hard workers their entire life. They bested their button. Nothing

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but good people.

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Speaker 5: Do they have any enemies that you're aware of?

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Speaker 7: No, my parents were very involved in church. Everyone loved them.

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Speaker 1: According to their children, grandchildren, in laws, and friends. Virgil

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and Shirley were kind, well liked people with no known enemies.

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Don't we hear that a lot.

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Speaker 2: To your knowledge, anybody had issues.

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Speaker 7: What, No, sir, not to my knowledge at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean the neighbors.

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Speaker 5: No sweetest dan people in the world.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sweetest people in the world.

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Speaker 7: They do anything for anybody.

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Speaker 9: I could see her all day long and go on

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about hungry they are and was loved by everybody, absolutely everybody,

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especially family, friends and neighbors church goers.

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Speaker 1: On the morning of November twelfth, twenty fifteen, Michelle Best

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was called to her parents house by her older brother Robert.

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Not long after that call, deputies arrived at the property,

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and Michelle and her husband were left to deliver devastating

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news to Virgil and Shirley's grandson.

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Speaker 10: Then I see Mom and Derek start walking over here,

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and you know, they can barely speak. I mean, they're fibergasted,

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and they say, I say, what's going on And Derek says, nothing, buddy,

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just you're not going to school today. And then right

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after he says that, and Mom says Pop and Annie

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had been shot, and I say, oh my god. And

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then Mom said I got to get back over there.

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So we all just got up and went over there.

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Speaker 1: That morning, the bodies of Virgil and Shirley were reportedly

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discovered by their oldest son, Robert, who was quickly questioned

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by a detective at the scene.

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Speaker 8: What I'd like you to do is just kind of

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tell me, walk me through this morning and what we

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got going on here.

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Speaker 12: My parents had asked us yesterday if we could stop

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by this morning on our way into court. I have

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a court hearing today and they wanted to pray with

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us life.

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Speaker 10: And I came over. I got here, I saw that

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they were up the light, toron and everything.

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Speaker 12: I went around back because we always used the back door,

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and when I went to knock on the door, I

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noticed that it was just open a little bit, and

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I could see through the curtains a little bit, and

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I saw my mom laying on the floor.

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Speaker 3: I opened the door and went to check on her,

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and I saw there was blood.

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Speaker 10: I wanted to take their polls, but there was so

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much blood, and.

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Speaker 2: I Katusha was dead, and I turned around.

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Speaker 10: I saw my father lay on the floor too.

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Speaker 14: I left.

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Speaker 10: How I called you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Robert explained that after finding his parents dead on their

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living room floor, he quickly went outside, spoke briefly with

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his wife, called his sister, and then dialed nine.

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Speaker 2: One one one. What did your emerciency? We've had a

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break at my parents' house and both my parents were dead.

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Speaker 9: Do you know how they hood?

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Speaker 15: She was leading to the house?

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Speaker 11: Uh, the name of the house?

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Speaker 6: How she wish men kind of to get in?

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Speaker 12: No, I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I just came over.

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Speaker 2: We were supposed to have called through with my parents.

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When I came over and the back door is open.

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Speaker 15: Do you want to joy to call the events or no?

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Speaker 4: I checked them?

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Speaker 15: O where are they in the house?

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Speaker 16: The living room.

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Speaker 1: During the nine to one one call and his interview

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with detectives, Robert described the scene as bloody. It was

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Virgil and Shirley Best had been gunned down in their

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living room, and detectives quickly determined they were dealing with

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a double homicide. When the work on this case started,

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the detectives did what they always do. They looked at

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the people closest to the victims. In this case, they

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didn't have to look very far. The question wasn't whether

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the killer was close to Virgil and surely Best, It

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was which one of their children had committed this horrific crime.

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By the morning of November twelfth, twenty fifteen, two members

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of the Best family were dead, and homicide detectives were

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left trying to understand how a quiet home in Riverview,

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Florida became a violent and bloody crime scene. The victims

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had reportedly been shot and found inside their living room

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by their oldest son, Robert.

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Speaker 17: Seventy year old Virgil Best and sixty nine year old

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Shirley were found at six fifteen am in their home

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by a family member who called nine one one. Crime

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scene tax arrived in droves to the five acre that

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contains a fish farm out back the Best's own quality fins,

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a tropical fish business. Deputies will only use the police

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speak of upper body trauma to say how they died.

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Speaker 13: We're going to keep it very general right now, because

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we're still very early in the investigation.

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Speaker 17: Deputies are trying to figure out who last saw the

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couple alive and when. For all the questions, they say,

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they don't believe the general public is in danger, generally

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assigned they have at least a theory of what happened.

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Speaker 1: After arriving at the scene, detectives quickly determined that Virgil

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and Shirley Best had been shot to death. Virgil had

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been shot once in the head. Shirley had been shot

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twice in the head and neck. There was absolutely no

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doubt this was a double homicide. Naturally, the first person

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investigators wanted to speak with was the man who said

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he discovered the bodies, forty nine year old Robert Best

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tell you how kind I.

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Speaker 2: Got here this morning.

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Speaker 12: I have a court case in Polk County, and my

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parents had asked if we could stop over on our

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way this morning, and they wanted to pray with us,

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and I agree, so I told them i'd be there

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between six six thirty.

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Speaker 2: And I got over there.

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Speaker 12: This morning and I saw that they were over or

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I thought that they were because I was the light tron.

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Speaker 3: And when I knocked, I noticed.

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Speaker 12: The door was who was partially you know, cracked open,

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and I looked and I could see my mom laying.

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Speaker 2: On the floor.

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Speaker 1: During this interview, Robert described finding the bodies and even

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touching them to confirm that both of his parents were dead.

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Speaker 4: I pushed the door open and I went to check

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her to see no, she was dead.

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Speaker 18: There was blood everywhere, and I turned and I saw

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my father and I checked him. I just I walked

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back out and told my wife I to come in

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and hand me the phone.

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Speaker 10: And uh we.

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Speaker 2: Waited to the police officer. Together.

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Speaker 12: I called my sister and told her to call my

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brother get over there.

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Speaker 1: Detectives also interviewed the rest of the immediate family, including

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the couple's middle child, Todd Best.

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Speaker 9: This is nuts, This is crazy.

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Speaker 2: What happened here?

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Speaker 9: This to happen to my parents. Something's not right here,

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something's not right at all. Natural cause that you can

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understand heart attack, but this, I just know they did

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some of that fucker the goodness.

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Speaker 1: Detectives also spoke with Virgil and Shirley's grandson, whose account

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helped narrow the timeline of the murders.

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Speaker 10: We were just talking about. Annie sent a message to

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her hairdresser. I guess her hairdresser had some surgery. I

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don't know, but said I'm glad you're doing okay at

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seven forty five last night, so she was on Facebook.

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Speaker 5: How you know that?

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Speaker 10: The hair addresser said that, yes, at seven pm.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Sureley's last note in contact was a Facebook message she

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sent around eight pm, and her son Robert called nine

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to one one just before six am the following morning.

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That gave detectives a window of roughly ten hours in

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which the murders could have occurred. From there, investigators started

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narrowing that window even further. The living room light had

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been left on, something family members said Virgil and Shirley

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never did before going to bed.

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Speaker 10: They wouldn't answer the door, especially turn on a light

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to answer a door. They they happened before they got

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in bed. Yes, they have the light on. They're probably

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washing TV in the room and they always get the

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light on when they wash the TV.

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Speaker 1: Detectives believe the murders most likely occurred between eight pm

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and midnight. With that window in mind, they started asking

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a simple question, where was everyone during that time?

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Speaker 9: And then yesterday I didn't go over there there on

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the farm. I didn't see mom about her shoes in

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the house, putting up decorations.

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Speaker 2: About what time was up.

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Speaker 9: It was still daylight, so it was probably about four

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four thirty.

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Speaker 1: Todd Best told detectives he had last seen his father

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earlier that day and stayed home for the rest of

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the night until leaving for work the following morning. He

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had no alibi, and no one could confirm that he

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hadn't left his house during the window when the murders occurred.

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Virgil and Shirley's daughter, Michelle, told investigators pretty much the

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same thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you go anywhere on last night?

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Speaker 6: No, we had dinner at home, dert grilled out and

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we ate there in dinner and gout, showers, got cleaned

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up and said on the couch and we were in

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the whole evening.

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you see your mom and dad yesterday? Now

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you talked to him. No, As it goes till from

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last night, what time did you go to bed? What

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do you say?

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Speaker 6: We probably retired to the bedroom a little early because

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we were tired.

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Speaker 7: I guess it was probably around eight thirty forty five.

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Speaker 1: Michelle explain that she, her husband, and their son went

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to bed fairly early that night. Her husband confirmed the

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same account.

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Speaker 11: She came home, my grilled chicken. We made chicken offredo

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and that was it. Spent the evening on the couch

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because you were home hole eavning, Yes, your homeleating.

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Speaker 1: Everyone in Michelle's household said they were home for the night,

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but realistically any one of them could have slipped out

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without the others noticing. Just like with Todd Best, there

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were no air tight alibis for anyone, and this uncertainty

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naturally drew some attention to the grandson.

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Speaker 10: You're pretty close to them, and I work with them.

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The farm's my main source of income.

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Speaker 5: Hey, do you have a key to get in?

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Speaker 10: Give me personally know, but Mom and Derek keep a

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key near the Michael wave in our house.

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Speaker 1: While everyone in the family remained a potential suspect, one

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person stood out more than the rest, the oldest sibling,

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Robert Best.

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Speaker 7: He found them on the floor and of whole blood.

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Speaker 6: And I asked him, I said, was the door was

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a door, you know, busted open? And he said no,

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it was just kind of cracked open, just a little

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bit of the back door.

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Speaker 7: He said, I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: And then I guess.

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Speaker 6: He told the debut that he had went in just

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to check them.

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Speaker 5: Did he say it was by himself?

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Speaker 7: No, his wife was with him, because you walk in,

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I guess.

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Speaker 10: Oh, no, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't think so. He didn't say anything about Marisol.

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Speaker 1: From the start. Some family members felt there was something

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off about Robert, particularly the way he described finding the

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bodies and touching them, But it wasn't just that he

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was the one who discovered them. Robert also had a

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law criminal history.

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Speaker 7: Ever since I was a teenager, he's always been in trouble.

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Speaker 6: He spent about eleven or twelve years for conning conn artists.

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Speaker 7: Basically years ago.

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Speaker 6: He was into you know, he was He stole a

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lot of stuff. He even arrested for stilling from a

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baseball card shop. I remember then he got into like

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credit card fraud.

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Speaker 1: Robert had spent much of his adult life committing fraud

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and conning people out of money. By the time of

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his parents' death, he had been convicted of thirty eight felonies.

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Speaker 9: My brother, he's involved in a lot of things, and

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he's a white collar crime guy. He you know, he's

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been in prison. He walked into a Cadillac Dade and

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I was telling the detective about that. He portrayed that

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he was.

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Speaker 2: His dad was a doctor.

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Speaker 9: And he's got money, and he had a friend to

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him portraying my dad as being that doctor. And he

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ended up writing a check for thirty five grand driving

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out with a brand new Cadillac.

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Speaker 1: Robert had spent years in prison for his various schemes,

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but his biggest con didn't happen on the outside. It

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happened while he was already behind bars.

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Speaker 6: His big thing was while he was in jail for something,

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he had apparently conned a blind woman that lived out

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of state to send him, you know, all this money

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because I had a million dollars or something, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: And when he got out of jail a time, he come.

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Speaker 6: To the house full fully suited and bought trucks and

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had a girlfriend already, and he bought my parents a car, and.

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Speaker 7: He was spending all this money.

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Speaker 6: This was this was probably twenty nineteen, twenty years ago,

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because I have a twenty one year old and he

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was like two when all of this happened.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, incarcerated, Robert managed to con a blind woman

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he had never met out of more than one million dollars.

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After his release, he went on a spending spray, including

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buying expensive gifts for his parents. Within months, federal authorities

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came a knocking, seizing the assets, and Robert was sent

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back to prison.

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Speaker 11: He went out buying all this stuff, war kids, all

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kinds of toys and stuff. When god, mom and Dad

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on Lincoln Brandon, Lincoln damn car, and like literally within

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a month or.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks on what it was events.

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Speaker 11: Came in and took it and was hauled off back

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to prison.

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Speaker 7: They got in with wirefraud.

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Speaker 6: So he spent like eleven or twelve years, ten or

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eleven years in federal prison. But like I said, you

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know that he had spent his whole from eighteen years

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old all the way up till then in and out

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and out, in and out of jail.

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Speaker 1: Of course, when detectives asked Robert about his million dollar scam,

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he played it down as he could. No pun intended.

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Speaker 12: My charges were money laundering or countsel of I think wirefraud.

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And it was a It was a woman that I

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was with and she was in love with me, and

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she had a bunch of money, and she sent me

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money all the time and to start a business.

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Speaker 3: And then I met somebody.

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Speaker 12: She became psychotic, I mean really really psychotic.

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Speaker 2: I met somebody.

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Speaker 3: She found out about it.

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Speaker 5: And did you give her money back? I mean since

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she didn't want to be with her?

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Speaker 12: What Still, the thing is I bought like I bought

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a house, you know, So it was it was things

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like that, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, for this fraud. Robert was sentenced to several years

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in prison. And when he got out, he seemed committed

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to living a law abiding life, at least for a while.

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Speaker 6: And you know, he got out a while back and

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got married and him a Marisolficer, I had two babies

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and had cleaned up his life. I mean, you know,

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they've always moved from one to the other. They've never

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stayed in one place more than a year. You know,

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he says he has a job. We love him because

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he's my brother, and you know, they always come to

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the holidays and we always have birthday dinners and everything together.

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But my parents have always been guarded with him because

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of his past.

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Speaker 1: Even though Robert had seemingly turned his life around, his

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parents were understandably hesitant to trust him again, as was

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the rest of his family.

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Speaker 11: Between you, me and the recorder, trust as far as

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I could throw it, and I don't mean to throw

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anybody on the US, but I just don't know it,

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you know, And what I do know of him, I

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wouldn't trust. I know he's ex con or felon whatever.

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I know that they had a dateline episode on this guy,

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that's how good he is. I'm sorry, I'm former marine,

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so if I get blunt, but I prefer blunt. If

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it smells like shit and looks like shit, it's probably shit.

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It's coming around with a brand well, I say brand new.

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Speaker 2: He had a afford in an edition picked up truck.

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Is that the black one over the black Yes, Okay,

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this is a man and doesn't have a job that

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I know of. Per se.

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Speaker 11: He apparently had just bought a Harley. I mean he

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was and he was kind of I don't know when

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to say it was a joke, but we all in

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the family set it's just a matter of time. It's

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just a matter of time for he is busted, because

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he will and it'll happen.

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Speaker 10: But what does he do?

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Speaker 9: He don't have a job, but he's always going out

482
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at expensive restaurants and buying this, and he's always up

483
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,359
to date with the new computer gadgets and new cell

484
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,759
phones and iPads and tablets, and we're.

485
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 3: All, how you ford that?

486
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:34,279
Speaker 19: How can you?

487
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 3: What do you do? And I know, I know my

488
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,640
mom made a comment.

489
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,079
Speaker 9: Your brother's backing and again doing back in what he's

490
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,160
doing something he's not supposed to be doing. I can

491
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,240
know it, I can feel it.

492
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: After several years of avoiding trouble with the law. It

493
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:53,680
appeared that Robert was up to his old tricks. Somehow

494
00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:56,839
he was supporting himself, his wife, and his two kids

495
00:25:57,519 --> 00:25:58,839
without a legitimate job.

496
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 2: Do you know a thing that he does? No, I

497
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,759
have no clue.

498
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 7: He says that he's what he told the family, that he.

499
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,079
Speaker 11: Sells medical equipment like MRI machines overseas to China.

500
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 8: Does he know anything? I mean as he educated in

501
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,680
medical devices or that you know.

502
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,759
Speaker 11: Now he knows about as much as medical as I

503
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:19,160
know about being a brain surgeon.

504
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 9: Talks, but I don't pay any attention because ninety nine

505
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,200
percent things come out of his mouth is not true.

506
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: You know, it's a lie.

507
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: It makes you think it's true, but it's not.

508
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 19: He's talking very and we and we always told him

509
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:38,960
if he could be such a good salesman and make

510
00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:41,920
tons of money, you know, right away the legal way,

511
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:43,720
and but he won't do it.

512
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: Within the family, there was a quiet assumption that Robert's

513
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,880
freedom was temporary, that sooner or later he would end

514
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,920
up back behind bars. Because of that, contact was limited

515
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,160
outside of holidays and rare family most of them kept

516
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,200
their distance. Robert was the black sheep of the family

517
00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:10,680
and on the morning of November twelfth, twenty fifteen, that

518
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:15,240
black Sheep claimed to have found his parents dead on

519
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:16,279
their living room floor.

520
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,759
Speaker 9: The first initial thought was, why is he there that early.

521
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:21,079
Speaker 2: In the morning.

522
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 9: He never goes there dad, early in the morning.

523
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: Who was my brother? Yeah? My older brother.

524
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 9: Okay, he's never there every time I've ever seen his

525
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,519
sides in the afternoon or late afternoon.

526
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:33,799
Speaker 2: Or something like that.

527
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 9: So why would he have been there that early in

528
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,079
the morning.

529
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: Strangely, investigators never pressed Robert on why he went to

530
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,720
his parents house that morning. Instead, they turned to his

531
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:47,920
wife and asked her to explain what the two of

532
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,960
them were doing there.

533
00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:53,759
Speaker 2: What was the conversation about today with mom and dad?

534
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,559
Speaker 15: It was just a kind of coffee and prayer.

535
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,799
Speaker 5: My husband was supposed to be going to.

536
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 15: Trial today for his case, and they wanted to just

537
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:06,000
say with m and pray with us.

538
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 5: What was that case about.

539
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 7: A legit sex with a minor?

540
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,839
Speaker 5: Do you know the miner?

541
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to babysit.

542
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,839
Speaker 1: For us, as if the situation wasn't already horrible enough.

543
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,079
Robert was scheduled to be in court that same morning,

544
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,160
facing charges that he had sexually assaulted an underage babysitter.

545
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,680
Robert and his wife told investigators that they had gone

546
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,079
to Virgil and Shirley's house for what they described as

547
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,720
a brief prayer visit if you want to buy that shit.

548
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,880
Of course, no one else could confirm that Virgil or

549
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,519
Shirley were expecting them.

550
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 14: Did anyone hear this directly from Annie and Papa?

551
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:49,279
Speaker 2: I didn't.

552
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 10: I just heard that Annie call and say, meet me

553
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:55,039
for prayer before you go to before you go to court,

554
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:58,759
because he came over at like six am to pray

555
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:00,559
with them before he went to court, and then you

556
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:01,279
found them.

557
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 5: Okay, so you're just repeating what you've heard, yes, okay.

558
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,839
Speaker 1: There was one more thing that troubled the family. In

559
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,319
the aftermath of the murder's emotions ran high for everyone, well,

560
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,640
everyone except Robert. While the whole family wept, Robert appeared

561
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,960
cold and mostly unaffected. I wonder why that was.

562
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 10: How did the marso behave while you were there with them?

563
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,240
Marisol was crying. I was hugging Marisol, but was TERI eyed,

564
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,319
but he wasn't sobbing, But I was hugging Marisol, and

565
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,519
Mom and Derec were just sobbing. They could not believe

566
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,160
what was going on, and I was sobbing with Marisol.

567
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: After detectives spoke with the entire family, Todd Best put

568
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,559
their concerns into words. They didn't believe Robert was capable

569
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,319
of killing his own parents, but they did believe he

570
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,359
was capable of bringing someone dangerous into their lives, one

571
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,640
who could.

572
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 9: So the basically one DNA is you know, is there

573
00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:06,960
somebody he pissed off?

574
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 20: Or he borrowed money from the campaign? And I know

575
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,839
where you can live, and you know you're not gonna

576
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:18,119
give me the money. What was he doing there? That's

577
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,480
six o'clock this morning. You know, I have no idea.

578
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 9: I didn't know he had a court.

579
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:26,799
Speaker 1: By the time detectives finished working their way through the family,

580
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:32,240
one thing was clear. Nothing about this case was clean.

581
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,920
The timeline didn't line up, the alibis weren't solid, and

582
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,559
the man who found the bodies carried a lifetime of

583
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,880
baggage into the interview room with him. Even so, investigators

584
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,000
had enough to act and Robert Best was arrested. But

585
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,200
what came next changed everything. Not long after Robert was

586
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,200
taken into custody, detectives obtained a confession and It was

587
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:32,559
a confession that no one could have possibly seen coming.

588
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:38,160
On the morning of November twelfth, twenty fifteen, Virgil and

589
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,759
Shirley Best were found dead inside their Riverview home. Both

590
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,000
had been shot, and detectives were left with a narrow timeline,

591
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,799
no clear alibis, and a family where nearly everyone had opportunity.

592
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,200
Their initial focus settled on the person who found the bodies,

593
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:01,000
the victim's oldest son, forty nine year old Robert Best.

594
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:07,119
His criminal passed, his emotional detachment and the circumstances surrounding

595
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:13,000
that morning raised immediate red flags. Investigators believed he was responsible,

596
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:17,839
and they moved to arrest him, but as detectives worked

597
00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:21,559
to lock in their case, they still needed to account

598
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:26,960
for everyone connected to that morning, and that included Robert's wife.

599
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:32,359
Speaker 8: Were speaking with a mits Mariitel. I have your spelling

600
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,240
Your firse name naari.

601
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: As so Well? Is that correct? Yes? Okay?

602
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:39,559
Speaker 8: And the last name of Best be Est in your

603
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:42,319
date of birth of February twenty fourth, nineteen eighty five.

604
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,279
Speaker 2: All right.

605
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,799
Speaker 1: When detectives interviewed Marisol, they first focused on the morning

606
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,000
Robert found his parents dead. Marisol told him that when

607
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:57,079
they arrived, Robert went inside alone while she stayed outside.

608
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: We got there in the morning.

609
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 15: We're supposed to have coffee and have a little prior together.

610
00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:05,680
We got there and my husband has long legs, so

611
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:09,039
he was ahead of me. He went into the back,

612
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,039
knocked on the door and noticed the door was slightly open.

613
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,480
When I didn't hear any response, that kind of stayed back.

614
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 21: He went in.

615
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,039
Speaker 15: I didn't hear anything from him for the next couple

616
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,720
of minutes, and he came out crying and told me.

617
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,559
Speaker 8: To stay where it was.

618
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,319
Speaker 2: How long have you guys been married?

619
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,279
Speaker 15: Seven years going on seven years and we've got married in.

620
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: A way okay?

621
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,559
Speaker 8: And prior to that, how long did you guys on

622
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,599
each other before you got married?

623
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:33,799
Speaker 14: Two?

624
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,559
Speaker 5: Three years?

625
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: Two or three years?

626
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:35,839
Speaker 16: All right?

627
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: Where'd you guys? Haved you meet again? Face? Okay? That's horrible.

628
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: What's your age difference?

629
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,559
Speaker 1: When Robert and Marisol started dating, she was twenty three

630
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,680
and he was forty two. The age gap was significant,

631
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:55,400
and seven years into the marriage the relationship was clearly strained.

632
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:58,279
Divorce had already been discussed.

633
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,319
Speaker 15: We've been, I know, on our rocky path lately, but

634
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:05,480
we've been trying to work it out.

635
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

636
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 8: Have you been living in the same house together?

637
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Was there a divorce in the making? He

638
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,000
was thinking about it over what was why.

639
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 7: Not being the best housewife?

640
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,599
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, it's kind of hard to fill his mom's shoes.

641
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 6: So seriously due to the fact that you're not a

642
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,000
good housewife and you're going.

643
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,199
Speaker 15: To be okay with Yeah, that was okay with it.

644
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,639
I mean we were still going to be in touch.

645
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,719
We're still best friends. That's my best friend.

646
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: The next thing detectives wanted to know was where Robert

647
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,280
and Marisa were on the night the murders happened.

648
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: So when did you get home yesterday?

649
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 15: Actually, I dropped off my kids yesterday afternoon. I got

650
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,760
home after eight thirty nine o'clock.

651
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: In the evenings.

652
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 14: Yeah.

653
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,199
Speaker 2: Great.

654
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,559
Speaker 7: My parents live over in Orland in winter Garden.

655
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 8: So, as far as you are aware, was at home

656
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,159
yesterday from well the entire time her wonder garden.

657
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:07,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was on the phone.

658
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 7: I think he was playing Diablo.

659
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: Marisol told detectives that she dropped her children off at

660
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:17,920
her parents house that night, leaving Robert home alone. She

661
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,519
said she spoke with him by phone and believed he

662
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:24,440
never went anywhere. According to Marisol, he was at home

663
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,000
all night playing video games. When detectives spoke to Robert,

664
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:32,639
his account matched hers. He told him he never left

665
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:33,079
the house.

666
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: How long had you been at your house by the

667
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,519
time you went to bed?

668
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,199
Speaker 3: All day?

669
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: All day?

670
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,119
Speaker 3: We only left the house once. We took to my

671
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:42,239
son's birthday today.

672
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 2: We took him to the village and to.

673
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 3: Have lunch, and we came back and I stayed there.

674
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 12: We all took nabs and when she got up, she

675
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,159
took the kids at her parents' house.

676
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,199
Speaker 2: Okay, do you remember about what time it was?

677
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 3: I want to stay around five?

678
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: Okay. Can you think of anybody that would want to

679
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,719
do harm for your family?

680
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,079
Speaker 12: I cannot imagine anybody.

681
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:10,119
Speaker 2: Everybody loves them.

682
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,039
Speaker 1: During this interview, Robert talked about the strained relationship he

683
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:18,000
had with his parents. He admitted that his criminal passed

684
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:21,639
and the embarrassment of federal agents once showing up at

685
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:26,760
their door meant they never fully trusted him. Again, how

686
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,159
is your.

687
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: Relationship with him? It's good.

688
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 12: I mean, I was a black she was the down.

689
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,280
You know, I got in trouble early light and stuff

690
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,239
like that. But I've been trying to make it up

691
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,480
and do right. I got kids and I have responsibilities

692
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:41,000
and everything, you know, and you know, they've been very supportive.

693
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:44,639
Speaker 1: And he claimed despite his criminal past, his parents continued

694
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:49,360
to support him. That raised questions. If Virgil and Shirley

695
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,559
were so supportive, why weren't they planning to attend his

696
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:55,199
upcoming criminal trial.

697
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,119
Speaker 12: Because my mom wrotly want to go, you know, reading

698
00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:01,559
text message about should things and everything, my mom.

699
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 3: Just she almost had a nervous rightdown.

700
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:08,599
Speaker 12: So she asked my wife, if we were on our way,

701
00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:10,639
would sob over and just left him pray with us.

702
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:14,519
Speaker 1: And Robert continued to insist that his parents wanted him

703
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:18,159
to come by that morning to pray for him. But

704
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,239
outside of Robert and Marrisol, no one else knew anything

705
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:28,400
about this supposed plan for detectives. This raised a troubling possibility.

706
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:32,400
Were they hearing the truth or were they being worked

707
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,480
by a man who had spent much of his life

708
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:39,679
conning people into believing whatever suited him at that moment?

709
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:43,639
Speaker 5: What else is in your history? You know, going clear?

710
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:48,159
Speaker 3: Just stupid kid stuff, you know what is that? I mean?

711
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,119
Speaker 12: When I was like late teens and early twenties or whatever.

712
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,280
I had burglary, you know, breaking in places and stuff

713
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,320
like that, which.

714
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 5: Is why into homes or into cars.

715
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: There's a business and a car, I must say convertible

716
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,400
and drove around.

717
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 5: Oh you told the car. Oh so it was grand theft.

718
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,480
It was broke. You broke in and then you took

719
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:18,400
the borrows. You still had that piece of you an sturdy.

720
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: Believe me, that's been a excised, no doubt.

721
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 5: But you've tried to kind of be on the straight

722
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,760
and narrow since then.

723
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: I tried, I haven't. I wanted, you know, my wife

724
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,599
laughs at me or whatever, because I want jaywalk.

725
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,039
Speaker 1: In an attempt to confirm more disprove Robert's account of

726
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:41,440
the supposed early morning prayer meeting with his parents, detectives

727
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,480
asked to review his text messages. Robert was an enthusiastic

728
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:49,159
about this request, and he flat out refused. Does that

729
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:50,320
surprise you?

730
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: Would you allow me to look at your home?

731
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:54,599
Speaker 2: To look at my home? For what?

732
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 5: Just to look at it? You can alwa's tell me now.

733
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 12: No, I'm not trying to be a jerking I want

734
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:01,400
to help you in any way possible.

735
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 3: There's nothing in my bone's.

736
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,039
Speaker 2: Going to help you, though.

737
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 4: Kay.

738
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: For a man who claimed to be living a law

739
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,519
abiding life to the point of saying he even avoided jaywalking,

740
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:18,480
Robert appeared unusually guarded. He certainly came across as a

741
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,559
man with something to hide. With that in mind, detectives

742
00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:26,719
made a controversial move. Robert was arrested for failing to

743
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,360
appear in court, even though he had been with police

744
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,239
all morning. Naturally, an elusive judge was blamed for that

745
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,000
very shady decision.

746
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: So we can't control with the judge.

747
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,599
Speaker 3: Oh, I couldn't. I wasn't allowed to go.

748
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: No, I agree, but the judge. You know, once the

749
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,199
judge that put the warrant system away, we can clear it.

750
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:52,119
You'll have to go and the judge can pick it

751
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:54,159
off well. And I told him, I agree.

752
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 12: You guys are the quickest way to get that done.

753
00:39:57,079 --> 00:39:58,880
And we told no, it's not my fault if you

754
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,000
called out there and you could get it.

755
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: To doctor the judge right.

756
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: This arrest put an immediate end to Robert's cooperation. Once

757
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,280
he was told he was being taken into custody, his

758
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,760
demeanor changed and he refused to answer any more questions.

759
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 12: I'm not cooperating anymore with you guys, not after doing

760
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,519
this to me, okay on today.

761
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,039
Speaker 2: Okay, well Pole County did this, not us.

762
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:26,159
Speaker 12: Well, it's still you guys were supposed to make sure

763
00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:28,280
that it didn't happen, and I was assured that it

764
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,880
was going to because I told him I wanted to go.

765
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 8: I know that they know, I know that Pole County

766
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,559
knew that you've been with us.

767
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 12: It is now, I'm not giving permission to serge nothing.

768
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,960
I don't want no on my stuff and nothing.

769
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:41,039
Speaker 3: Okay, no, this is bullshit.

770
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 12: Man, of all times, you're going to fucking do this shit.

771
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,519
Speaker 1: Robert was arrested buying detectives time to determine whether he

772
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:51,719
was responsible for his parents' murder, and they didn't have

773
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,280
to wait very long. Less than twenty four hours later,

774
00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:57,000
they had their answer.

775
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: I ask you if there was more than chance.

776
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,199
Speaker 8: Who told me that you had gone to the house

777
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,440
last night and he had some prayer time?

778
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:08,039
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, talk to me about that.

779
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 14: I had called earlier on my way back just to

780
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,880
see if I could stop by I have a little

781
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,599
prayer session.

782
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:17,079
Speaker 5: I did.

783
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 14: We talked for a good twenty three minutes. I have

784
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,800
one crown, honestly.

785
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: In a surprising twist, Robert's wife, Marisol, requested another interview

786
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,880
with detectives. During that conversation, she admitted to going to

787
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,679
Virgil and Shirley's house on the night they were killed

788
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,320
to pray with them, and she claimed to have blacked

789
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,920
out while she was there.

790
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 8: So something must have happened or day er you to

791
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:46,159
black out.

792
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 14: They were not happy with him, and they haven't been

793
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,599
since his mess up with the federal case years ago.

794
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,000
They'd never forgiven him for it, and at one time

795
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:02,719
he needed them to be with him, they weren't.

796
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,679
Speaker 1: None of his family was supportive. Of course, detectives weren't

797
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,400
satisfied about Marisol's claim that she blacked out because clearly

798
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,199
it's bullshit, and they pressed her for more details about

799
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,679
what happened to Robert's parents.

800
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 5: I don't know.

801
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,679
Speaker 14: I just hearing all that negativity and knowing that all

802
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,280
you need right now was family to meet with him

803
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,199
and support them, because we're going to trial the next day,

804
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:33,440
and he had nobody except me.

805
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: What did they say exactly? Do you remember?

806
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 14: They were just disappointed in him. They said, he has

807
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,440
no excuse. You know, he's been dealing with as long

808
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:48,920
enough he should know better, and to have family just

809
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:59,199
deny you loyalty is heartbreaking, especially a family like the others, always.

810
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: So caring and love I mean. Marisol claimed that instead

811
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,760
of the encouraging prayer session she expected, Virgil and Shirley

812
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,639
only criticized Robert. According to her, the conversation was harsh

813
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:18,280
and escalated into insults. Then something inside of her snapped.

814
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,199
Speaker 2: What happened inside the house? Did you guys start being

815
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:24,480
on the screaming each other? That's the thing.

816
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:28,679
Speaker 14: They were frustrated and pissed off, and I don't know,

817
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,239
something snapped.

818
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm not like that at all.

819
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,079
Speaker 3: You know what we said that just made you snap.

820
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 14: They were just disappointed always he couldn't ever do right,

821
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,920
and that he's always gonna end up leading the same

822
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:46,920
road and that's why he's in trouble again with this.

823
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:50,760
And it's like I said, you guys were always so

824
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,679
happy because I made him and.

825
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: He's doing better. It's just almost so fake.

826
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 14: It as far as as far as being religious, and

827
00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:08,360
you know, well, it's God's will whatever happens, and you

828
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,119
know he doesn't deserve to be going to jel in

829
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:12,239
the first place.

830
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: Marisol told detectives that as the conversation devolved into criticism

831
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:21,840
of Robert, she excused herself and stepped outside. She went

832
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,199
to her truck, retrieved a gun, and then returned to

833
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,159
the living room.

834
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 10: When you came back in, what happened?

835
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,559
Speaker 14: Then? I went to the bathroom and that's about it.

836
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:34,639
They kept talking to me as I was walking to

837
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:35,239
the bathroom.

838
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 3: It was more negativity.

839
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: Where did you put the gun out? Or was it

840
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,960
in your pants? Was it in your hand? Was it

841
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:46,559
on your shirt? Like I said, I just was so angry.

842
00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 14: I remember coming out of the bathroom and I was

843
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,519
as I was walking and said, okay, let's.

844
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 16: Do the prayer.

845
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,559
Speaker 7: That's about it.

846
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,119
Speaker 4: I was so.

847
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: Frustrated with a handgun tucked in her pants. Marisol told

848
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,199
Virgil and Shirley she was ready to pray. They complied,

849
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:11,599
bowed their heads and started praying for their son.

850
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 14: I remember them getting up off the couch and wanting

851
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,760
to hold my hand, and I didn't want to hold

852
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,280
her hand, but they insisted.

853
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,639
Speaker 2: That they have their heads bowed, their eyes closed, praying.

854
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 6: Saying this.

855
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,599
Speaker 8: Did they see it coming as far as the gun,

856
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:30,639
I don't.

857
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,639
Speaker 2: Think so, can you do?

858
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 14: They expected from me.

859
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: Well.

860
00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:39,519
Speaker 1: Virgil and Shirley had their heads bowed in prayer. Marisol

861
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:43,519
drew the gun from her waistband. Then she aimed at

862
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,079
Virgil's face and fired.

863
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 14: And it's because he was the most negative, I mean,

864
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:53,679
his mom. I expected it because she was always so judgmental,

865
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,559
and when he started talking about he was he was

866
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,239
always a disappointment to him and all that. I was

867
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,880
just upset.

868
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:05,599
Speaker 2: You don't get upset. I had two dollars. I'm not

869
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:06,880
allowed to be upset.

870
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: After shooting Virgil, Marisol turned the gun on his wife,

871
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,199
Sureley and fired two more shots.

872
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: Where did you shoot Papa?

873
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 14: I just I remember that, that's it. I just remember

874
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,159
pulling the gun and I know it was towards Papa.

875
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:24,119
Speaker 5: That's it.

876
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:25,639
Speaker 2: I just aimed.

877
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 7: I don't know where I aimed.

878
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,039
Speaker 14: I just pointed.

879
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 9: That's it.

880
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

881
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,199
Speaker 8: Where did you shoot Nani Bannie?

882
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:35,679
Speaker 2: That?

883
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 5: I again, I don't know.

884
00:46:38,039 --> 00:46:42,199
Speaker 1: Virgil Best was shot once in the head. Surely was

885
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:45,800
shot twice, once in the head and once through the neck.

886
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,960
It's likely they both died instantly.

887
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 10: After you pulled the trigger and shot them.

888
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,559
Speaker 2: Did you just stick around there for any period of time,

889
00:46:56,679 --> 00:47:00,320
or did you immediately immediately leave or something else.

890
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,599
Speaker 14: I think, I wonder, I'm just trying to open drawers,

891
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:11,440
you know, just to kind of, I don't know, to

892
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,519
make it seem like something went wrong.

893
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: After killing her in laws, Marisol attempted to stage the

894
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,280
scene as a robbery gone wrong. She left drawers open,

895
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:25,760
knocked over a clock, and left the back door open.

896
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,039
This level of deliberate action conflicted with her claim that

897
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,039
she had just blacked out. Even so, detectives now had

898
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:38,400
a confession, and in many ways Marisol's account held together,

899
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,760
but one question remained unresolved. They couldn't yet rule out

900
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,239
Robert's involvement in the killings because.

901
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,079
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that he wasn't there.

902
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,079
Speaker 14: He was at home the entire time, track his phone calls,

903
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:54,920
he was talking to his attorney.

904
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,199
Speaker 2: Most of the time.

905
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 14: You would not be okay, because uh oh, if I

906
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,639
had told him, or if he even knew about it,

907
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:06,679
or even tempted to think about something like that. He

908
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,320
loved his parents, regardless of what they thought of him

909
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,800
and how they treated him. He may get upset with

910
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,039
them and you know, don't want to move, But nothing

911
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:21,519
like this ever, Okay, He wasn't there.

912
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: I promise you that I'll believe that.

913
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:28,199
Speaker 1: Marisol insisted that Robert had no involvement in the murders

914
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,039
and wasn't present when his parents were killed. She told

915
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:35,000
detectives he had no idea they were dead until the

916
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:39,000
following morning when the two of them discovered the bodies together.

917
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 18: How did it come about this morning when you guys

918
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,440
go there and find them out?

919
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:46,519
Speaker 2: How did that happen?

920
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 14: He balked up and the door was open.

921
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,599
Speaker 2: Did you stay in the car or or did you

922
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:56,679
go up to the door with them? This morning? He

923
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,159
beat me out of the car for usual.

924
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 14: So I was flagging behind a little bit?

925
00:49:03,519 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: Or are you lagging because he knew what he was

926
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,400
gonna find? No, I was just lagging behind.

927
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 14: I was extremely exhausted, and I was just lagging behind.

928
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: Detectives told Marisol they believed her, and the record suggests

929
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:21,519
they meant it. Prosecutors appeared to reach the same conclusion.

930
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,199
Robert Best was never charged with any crime related to

931
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:32,440
his parents murder. Marisol, however, was arrested immediately after giving

932
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,119
her confession.

933
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 21: On Wednesday, thirty year old Mari sold Best met with

934
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,079
her in laws, Virgil and Shirley Best at their Riverview Hull.

935
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,000
Deputies say when she left they were dead.

936
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:48,119
Speaker 13: She was upset about some of the comments, negative comments

937
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:51,760
that they were making about her son and got angry

938
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,639
and unfortunately took out her anger on her in laws.

939
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 21: The argument was over her husband, their son, Robert Best's

940
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:02,079
upcoming court date in Polp County. It involves sex acts

941
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:05,079
with a minor. She apparently got so mad she grabbed

942
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:06,559
a gun and opened fire.

943
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: Marisol was charged with two counts of premeditated murder and

944
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,199
pleaded not guilty. Robert's legal troubles followed a different path.

945
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:20,039
In the separate case involving allegations of sex with a minor,

946
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:24,280
he accepted a plea deal. He was sentenced to about

947
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,159
a year in jail, followed by four years of probation.

948
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:33,039
Prosecutors declined to explain why that deal was offered. About

949
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:36,920
a week before Robert's release, detectives met with him one

950
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,679
final time, this time to discuss his wife's upcoming murder trial.

951
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,760
One of the first questions they asked was how Marisol

952
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,079
had behaved on the night of the killings before Robert

953
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:50,280
knew his parents were dead.

954
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,559
Speaker 2: Once she arrived back home. What was her demeanor. What

955
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:56,000
was she like?

956
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,159
Speaker 17: I don't know.

957
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Speaker 12: It's just in hindsight, you know, But I mean at

958
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the time, I'm thinking she's really nervous about the next day, about.

959
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Speaker 2: Going to trial. She seemed very distressed.

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Speaker 8: Did Marisol at any point tell you or allude to

961
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you at all what she had done?

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Speaker 2: That's one of the things that hurt is that.

963
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Speaker 3: If she did this, that she knew what I was

964
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going to find.

965
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:21,199
Speaker 2: I'll let me walk into that, you know. But no

966
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morning whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Robert maintained that Marisol never told him what she had done.

968
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Whether that's true is something we'll probably never know for certain,

969
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,840
if you want my opinion, who knows? Really, what do

970
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:38,400
you think?

971
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Speaker 2: What is your plan staying here? I'm going to stay here,

972
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and uh.

973
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Speaker 12: We're supposed to We're supposed to get a place with

974
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my in law so all the you know, I can

975
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do with the kids and stuff like that.

976
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,039
Speaker 8: Okay, what you're playing with her?

977
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,559
Speaker 10: So you know, got.

978
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Speaker 2: Kids, and you playing on divorcing her at some point

979
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or the purpose is to recording, is that?

980
00:51:59,039 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 10: Yes?

981
00:51:59,440 --> 00:51:59,639
Speaker 14: Yes.

982
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Speaker 1: About two years after the murders, in twenty eighteen, Marisol's

983
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:09,920
case went to trial. Her defense team focused on creating

984
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reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury and by

985
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pointing the finger at Robert Best.

986
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Speaker 22: Is this a case of blind devotion or cold blooded murder?

987
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Marisol Best attorney floated one theory to the jury.

988
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Speaker 5: The evidence will show that Marisol.

989
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:34,159
Speaker 3: Best would do anything, anything to protect her husband, Robert Best.

990
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Speaker 22: Even take the fall on a double murder charge.

991
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 14: You're going to hear that Miss Best.

992
00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:47,559
Speaker 22: Husband Robert has been convicted of thirty eight felony charges.

993
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 5: He has had a lot of.

994
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Speaker 22: Problems, problems they say soured his relationship with his parents.

995
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Shirley and Virgil Best, were very unhappy with their son Robert.

996
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: In the end, though, the jury rejected the defense's argument

997
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and sided with the prosecution.

998
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Speaker 16: But it's clear now that the jury did not buy

999
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the defense's theory. We just found out minutes ago that

1000
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in fact, the jury did come back with a verdict

1001
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guilty on both counts of murder. She will now be

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sentenced at the end of this month.

1003
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Speaker 1: Following her conviction, Marisol was sentenced to two consecutive life

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terms in prison without the possibility of parole.

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Speaker 2: Few doubt that she did it. I mean, obviously, I

1006
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think that she did it. You know, she's going to

1007
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:36,639
admit that she did it. I think that she did

1008
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,119
do it. Why she would do.

1009
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Speaker 12: It, That's the thing I want to know, That's what

1010
00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:42,119
I want to ask her, you know, I want to

1011
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:45,679
know why. There's nothing that my parents could say to

1012
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,440
me that would make me even want to slap it much.

1013
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 2: Let's do something like that.

1014
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Speaker 12: And I can't imagine her either doing that.

1015
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Speaker 1: As far as motives go, this one can be a

1016
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bit difficult to wrap your head around. A brutal double murder,

1017
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not for money, not for revenge, not for self preservation,

1018
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:12,280
but because someone said something nasty to your spouse. On

1019
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,280
its face, that explanation is absurd. People say hurtful things

1020
00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:21,719
all the time. Families argue, I mean, have you ever

1021
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,360
been to Thanksgiving? None of that usually ends in gunfire.

1022
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,519
But motive isn't about what makes sense to us. It's

1023
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about what mattered to the person who pulled the trigger.

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Speaker 12: My parents are very critical, you know, they're very opinionated.

1025
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A lot of older people are, and you know they

1026
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,199
would get on to me about this situation that I

1027
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was in everything. If I hadn't been going to a

1028
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,079
real church instead of this church. You know that wouldn't

1029
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:52,239
have happened. And you know, and I just let it

1030
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,559
go into one ear and out the other. You know,

1031
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:56,840
it's just them. I love them, and it's dad, mom

1032
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,599
and dad. You know that she would get very upset

1033
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:02,280
about it. She'd take it very personally that they should

1034
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be supportive.

1035
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Speaker 1: And Robert described his parents as critical people, judgmental, blunt,

1036
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and often harsh. To him, it was mostly background noise,

1037
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something he'd lived with his entire life. He'd learned to

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00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,280
let it roll off his back. But Marisol was a

1039
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:30,760
different story. She didn't, she couldn't her back held on

1040
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to things. Apparently, when Robert could dismiss, Marisol absorbed what

1041
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:42,519
he heard is nagging, she experienced as condemnation. In her mind,

1042
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the criticism wasn't just aimed at Robert. It was aimed

1043
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:53,119
at her and her ego, a rejection, a betrayal, a

1044
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:55,760
reminder that no matter how long she'd been part of

1045
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,360
the family, she would always be seen as the black

1046
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:04,599
sheep's wife. Sometimes the only explanation for a horrific crime

1047
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,960
is that someone couldn't tolerate the way they felt and

1048
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:15,119
chose violence to silence it. Virgil and Surely best never

1049
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:18,880
got the chance to explain themselves. They didn't get a

1050
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,760
final argument, they didn't get a moment of understanding, and sadly,

1051
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the reason they died doesn't offer clarity or closure. It

1052
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leaves the rest of the family and quite frankly, all

1053
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of us sitting with an uncomfortable truth. Reality is messy, incomplete,

1054
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and deeply unsatisfying, and people are petty, egotistical, self centered,

1055
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and some people are just shit. Matt does it for

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another one. Hope you enjoyed it. If you did, you

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