WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:04.040 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:10.160 House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Thanks 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:12.919 for joining us on the program today. It is an 4 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:16.399 all calls weekend. We are just going to the phones. 5 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:18.800 You're setting the agenda today. The number to reach me 6 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:24.160 eight three three two ask Dean, Hey, Jeff, Welcome home 7 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:25.079 by Dean. 8 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:28.079 Yes, I had a question for you. I've got this 9 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:31.839 crack that's going across in my slab. I've got part 10 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:35.640 concrete slab on my house foundation in it in the hallway, 11 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:38.439 it goes a little bit into the bedroom, so it's 12 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:40.759 just like a crack. And I've been wanting to lay 13 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:43.600 some flooring there. I had a flying person in there 14 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:46.159 checking it out, and they said they couldn't do it 15 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:48.719 because they had the one the kind of flying that 16 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.399 sticks to this lab. So I just wonder, is that 17 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:54.159 something I need to get sixed before I can lay 18 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:54.719 some flooring? 19 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:57.399 Like, okay, so you're going to be using floating flooring, 20 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:02.479 a laminate or a luxury vinyl plank, something that floats, 21 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:04.280 something that doesn't stick down. 22 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:08.079 I'd like to use something, you know, a crossair or 23 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:10.519 even get it repaired. 24 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:14.159 Okay, all right, So yeah, yeah, a couple of questions 25 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:16.599 now about the crack. You say it runs down the 26 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:21.200 hallway and then into a bedroom. How wide is the crack? 27 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:24.319 Is it what we call spider crack, just a nice long, 28 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:30.879 ugly crack or has it spread open? And is their 29 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:35.079 uplift meaning is one side now taller than the other 30 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:38.760 or has it just opened up? You know, that's what 31 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:40.719 we need to know about this crack, because not all 32 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:44.280 cracks are created equal, and not all cracks are actually 33 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:48.239 a concern on it from a structural perspective, and the 34 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:51.640 way that we approach filling them up or ignoring them 35 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:55.239 has everything to do with the nature of the concrete 36 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:59.480 crack itself. So describe it to me a little bit 37 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:01.359 more detailed. 38 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:05.000 Then carbon covered with some cheap carpets for the last 39 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.760 couple of years that when I last looked at it, 40 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:11.000 I would have to say it was just a bit uneven, 41 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.879 you know, not open to anything, Just a crack across 42 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:19.240 the floor and just a tiny bit uneven on each side, 43 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:20.599 if that makes sense. 44 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:24.159 Okay, So, so it hasn't actually opened up. It's just 45 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:29.159 a crack. It's it's just a crack. That's running. And uh, 46 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:32.360 you know, the cracks can typically be a little uneven 47 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.159 with each other. I mean, you know, once once a 48 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:38.759 crack occurs. But when I'm talking about uplift, is one 49 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:41.199 side like an eighth of an inch or a quarter 50 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:45.120 inch or worse higher than the other or uh is 51 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:49.000 it just you know, uneven concrete? Uh, you know, on 52 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:50.319 each side of the crack. 53 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:52.599 Not even an inside of an inch re quarter of 54 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:54.919 an inch right in that area. 55 00:02:55.159 --> 00:03:00.800 Okay, it sounds to me like this is not an 56 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:06.159 issue of any significant concern. People are always shocked when 57 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:11.360 they find cracks in their concrete slab, and people quite 58 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:15.639 often get really concerned that, oh no, okay, my foundation 59 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.479 is failing. But here's the thing that we say in 60 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:24.759 the industry, there are there are only two kinds of 61 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:29.680 concrete in the world, concrete with cracks and concrete that 62 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:34.919 hasn't cracked yet. It's just the nature of concrete for 63 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:41.800 it to experience that kind of stuff. Probably everybody listening 64 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:45.439 to us right now who has a concrete slab in 65 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:49.400 their house has got a crack somewhere, if not more 66 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.919 than one place. That doesn't mean the house is failing. 67 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:56.960 So what we look for when we get word of 68 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:01.520 a crack that has to be re paired, we want 69 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:05.400 to hear if the crack has opened up. I mean like, 70 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:11.280 if there's a gap now from one side to the other, 71 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:15.039 that's something that is that has to be looked at. 72 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:18.519 Or if one side of the concrete has raised up 73 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:22.560 above the other side of the concrete what we call uplift, uh, 74 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:26.199 then that's something to be concerned about. That that at 75 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:28.759 least has to be looked at. Even those, by the way, 76 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:32.680 does not mean that it's a failure and that can't 77 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.800 be fixed. When there's when there is a spreading of 78 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:39.319 a crack, an opening of a gap, but there's no 79 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:43.079 uplift and the and the spreading of the crack is minimal, 80 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:46.079 but there is a gap there, then we can come 81 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:51.360 in with with high pressure concrete epoxy and simply fill 82 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:55.240 that crack over and you end up making that crack 83 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:58.560 actually stronger than the concrete around it once it gets filled. 84 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.079 If this though is not opened up, if there's no 85 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:07.120 gap and there's barely any disturbance or uplift at all, 86 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:11.120 then it's what we would call a spider crack. And 87 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.800 if you're concerned at all about like an uneven level there. 88 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:19.240 Then a little bit of flooring leveler can be applied 89 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:23.120 to the concrete just to hit the edge that's a 90 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.759 little disrupted, and then feathered out over a foot or 91 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:31.879 so to nothing, so that any flooring that you want, 92 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.360 be a tile or hardwood or something that glues down, 93 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:39.720 will have a smooth surface to work on. But if 94 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:43.399 you're planning on putting in a floating floor, you know, 95 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:47.040 carpet was a floating floor. It lays there, floats over 96 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:49.800 the surface of the of the concrete and only connects 97 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.600 on the edges. A luxury vinyl plank floor is a 98 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:57.600 floating floor basically lays there like a carpet, so is 99 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:01.399 a laminate floor. If that's the plan and this is 100 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:06.120 a minimal, minimal, minimal disturbance edge, then the fact of 101 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:08.360 the matter is you probably don't have to do anything 102 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.519 at all or worry about it in any way, shape 103 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:12.279 or form, because the floor is just going to float 104 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:15.439 over it, cover it over and it shouldn't be an issue. 105 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:18.399 So don't be alarmed just because there's a crack. Only 106 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:22.759 be alarmed if we have a crack in which the 107 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:26.680 concrete is gaping open, or one side is uplifting from 108 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.639 the other, because that becomes an indication that there may 109 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:32.360 be some deeper concerns that have to be looked at 110 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:36.879 by a professional, but not just typical spider cracking, especially 111 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:39.759 on an older slab, because it's gonna happen, my friend, 112 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:42.000 It's going to happen. 113 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:44.920 Thank you so much. I appreciate all that information. 114 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.199 You are so welcome, Jeff, thank you for the call. 115 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:52.920 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 116 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:54.519 KFI AM six forty. 117 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:58.759 All calls weekends are great because we can kind of 118 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:01.920 catch up with everybody and just have fun listening to 119 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:04.040 what's going on with your home. If you didn't get 120 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:07.439 through today or I didn't get to you, then just 121 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:11.000 stick with us. Give me a call next Saturday, next Sunday. 122 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:14.759 You'll get through. Persistence matters, you will make it through. 123 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:16.319 But I do want to get back to the phone, 124 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.240 so let's talk to Evan. Evan, welcome home. 125 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:22.759 So my problem is I had a waterline break the 126 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:27.040 other night in my house. It's flooded the square bedroom 127 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:31.439 and bathroom and the hallway all the way into where 128 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.439 the dining room and living room is. It bought the 129 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:38.879 floor and so my insurance adjuster is telling me they 130 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:41.000 can't match it. I won't be able to match it. 131 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:44.279 So they're going to pay to replace the entire wood 132 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:46.040 floor area in the house. 133 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:46.319 Yep. 134 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.240 And my question to you is people are telling me 135 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:54.519 to go with Vinyl laminae, to go with a hard 136 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.639 another hardwood, and I'm asking what your recommendations might be. 137 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:04.399 Okay, really good question. So Evan, what was the water 138 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:06.920 line that busted? Is it in the slab? Is it 139 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:10.199 something overhead? Tell them give me a little more specific overhead. 140 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:11.560 It was overhead. 141 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:16.360 It was over fine, and the joint failed and it 142 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.680 was raining in that My wife boke bea but ten 143 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:21.519 thirty at night and said, the house is flooding and 144 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:24.639 it was just literally flooding out of the Yeah, the 145 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.680 overhead fan, the air conditioning vent around it. It was 146 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:30.439 just raining water everywhere. 147 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.720 What a mess. I'm sorry to hear that. Okay, here's 148 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:38.960 the thing. If you are if you guys wanted hardwood, 149 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.639 if you've always wanted hardwood, if hardwood is the thing, 150 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:45.159 I know your gun you're feeling gun shy because of 151 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.440 this disaster that just happened. But if we're confident that 152 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:51.519 we've addressed the problem, addressed the leak. If we're confident 153 00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:55.840 with the rest of the system, then you don't go 154 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:58.799 back with hardwood again. I'm not a I am not 155 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:03.080 a big fan of compromising the design of a house 156 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:08.039 just because we get gun shy or we're afraid as 157 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:11.440 the result of an accident that has happened before. You 158 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.840 know what I'm saying, It's kind of like it's like, 159 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.840 it's like, you know, the kids on the skateboard outside, 160 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.720 he falls and and he broke his leg. Okay, we 161 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:24.480 get it. We're riding a skateboard that can happen. Once 162 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.120 the leg heals, the parents who now wrap that kid 163 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:33.039 up in like six layers of insulating foam on all 164 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:37.120 the legs and has an oversized helmet and goggles, and 165 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:39.240 you know, it's kind of like the kid who wears 166 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.759 a helmet and goggles when they goes to chess club 167 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.679 because the chance there's there's a chance one of those 168 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:46.799 pieces could fly off the board and put an eye out. 169 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:53.200 So to make that mean, we just just had new 170 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:56.559 carpet and new wood grain ceramic tile put in the 171 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:01.840 bathrooms two weeks ago. Okay, it's like, well, do we 172 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:05.120 match the ceramic tile, and I'm like, well, the people 173 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.120 that insallve it with the price is going to be 174 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.440 like thirty grand to do it, So I don't think 175 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:10.879 the wood forest thing replaced that. 176 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:17.000 Yeah, so you know you, insurance is going to pay 177 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:21.279 for and should pay pay out for the replacement of 178 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:24.080 what you've got. So if it's hardwood, they should write 179 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:28.279 you a check equivalent to redoing it all in replacing hardwood. 180 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:31.480 If you want to move up to the ceramic tile. 181 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:37.200 From a design perspective, that kind of, you know, kills 182 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.360 two birds with one stone in that a ceramic plank 183 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:43.960 floor is going to be bomb proofed throughout the whole 184 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:48.000 house and continuous flooring so that there's no change in 185 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:53.480 between the house proper and the bathrooms. But again that 186 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:57.840 isn't a necessity. So yeah, if you put in luxury 187 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:00.000 vinyl plank, that's what we're talking about. If you put 188 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.720 in luxury vinyl plank, yeah, it is now waterproof and 189 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.000 bomb proof throughout the whole house, and if there was 190 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:11.320 another accident then it's not going to ruin a luxury 191 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:16.919 vinyl plank floor. However, luxury vinyl plank is not the 192 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:21.759 same as real hardwood. It is an emulation of hardwood. 193 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:27.840 It's really good looking stuff. It's also way cheaper than hardwood. 194 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.120 So I think you guys just have to sit down 195 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:33.919 and make a decision of both financially and design wise, 196 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:38.360 which way you want to go with this. I can't 197 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:40.840 really push you one direction or the other because there's 198 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:43.759 no right answer to it. The fact of the matter is, 199 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:48.080 if we were always afraid that a pipe would burst 200 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:51.639 in any house, we'd never put hardwood in any house ever, 201 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:55.440 right because it's moisture sensitive and there's just no way 202 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:57.639 around that right now. We don't have the technology to 203 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:01.080 get around that right now. So I want you to 204 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:04.039 have confidence in your plumbing system. I want your plumbing 205 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:08.200 system rechecked, okay, especially if it's a peck system. Those 206 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:12.399 joints should not be failing. So if you're confident that, okay, 207 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:16.559 the plumbing issue has been resolved, then I know, you know, 208 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:20.519 it's always natural to feel gunshy after a big blow, 209 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:25.039 but you know, why not put hardwood back? If hardwood 210 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:28.240 is what you really want, Luxury vinyl plank is great. 211 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:33.000 So just to be clear, the insurance company should is 212 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.159 obligated to replace everything at the cost of the hardwood. 213 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.279 If you want to turn around, then and do the 214 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:43.200 luxury vinyl plank and save yourself some money as you 215 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:47.679 go great, Or take the payout for the hardwood and 216 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:50.159 then throw a little extra of yours in and go 217 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.279 porcelain plank everywhere. That's a good way too. Both of 218 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:58.120 those choices would be bomb proof, and the hardwood choice 219 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.480 gets you back to where you would go. So those 220 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:04.720 are really your three options, and it's ultimately a design 221 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:07.519 decision for you and your wife to work out. Just 222 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:11.639 try to avoid feeling gun shy because you just had 223 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:14.600 this disaster. I know that's a hard thing to do, 224 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:17.960 but do your best with it. Evan, thanks for the call, buddy. 225 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:21.080 How about some more of your calls when we return. 226 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:24.159 You are listening to Home with Dean Sharp the house Whisper. 227 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:28.559 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 228 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:32.120 KFI AM six forty. 229 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:36.679 It's an all calls day. It is it you set 230 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:40.440 the agenda. Anything that is going on with your home, 231 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:47.720 whether it be construction issues, DIY questions, design concerns, anything 232 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:51.000 at all. The phone lines are open. I am here 233 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:53.320 to help you sort it all out. We'll put our 234 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:56.720 heads together and we'll get it sorted. I promise. Here 235 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:58.799 is the number to reach me, and these lines are 236 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:02.240 open now. The number to reach me eight three three two. 237 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:05.759 Ask Dean eight three three two, ask Dean. You see 238 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.320 it just rolls out the dump, So let's get to it. Ronan, 239 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:10.480 welcome home. 240 00:14:10.679 --> 00:14:12.639 Thank you, sir, Thank you for taking my call. Well, 241 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:16.120 we had the house bolters underneath the house and they 242 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:20.360 told us that the shower in our boys room was leaking. 243 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:22.399 They could see that with the water damages. So we 244 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:25.799 brought in a team and they did the demo on 245 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:28.720 the shower pan. The problem is that the whole bathroom 246 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.840 the house was built probably in the late twenties, early thirties, 247 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:34.720 and the whole bathroom has the same beautiful tile that 248 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:37.159 I want to keep. It's, you know, it's not just 249 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:38.759 in the shower, it's and then the rest of the 250 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.600 bathroom and the floor and the walls and all that stuff. 251 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:46.720 So I was hoping to try to save the tile 252 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:49.320 in the shower, and I had them take off the 253 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:51.559 first couple of feet so they can do the hot 254 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:55.240 mop and you know, and rebuild the base and do 255 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:57.559 the hot mop and then we'll just do a different tile, 256 00:14:57.639 --> 00:14:59.279 just a black tile on the floor because there's some 257 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:05.000 black tower in the shower. But my buddy had any 258 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.919 very worried that I'm making a mistake and the water 259 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:12.519 can still potentially get inside. Oh no, if it's a mistake. 260 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:14.279 No, I don't think it's a mistake. What you're doing. 261 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:16.799 You just have to make sure that the people who 262 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:19.200 are doing the work know exactly what they're doing. I 263 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:22.480 don't think it's a mistake at all, because I totally 264 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.000 get you. I mean, you've got a century home. You 265 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:28.000 want to preserve that beautiful ben but you got to 266 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.759 replace the shower pan, right, and so the way to 267 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:33.480 do that is the shower pan has to go. That 268 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:36.440 has to be redone. And then, you know it sounds 269 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:38.559 like you've done it exactly right. Go a couple of 270 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:42.679 feet up the wall, remove that tile, make a clean break, 271 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:47.879 and then the wall itself, the wall tile has got 272 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:52.120 it's got roofing paper behind it. Basically that is shutting 273 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:55.440 down water. If that has not been a source of 274 00:15:55.519 --> 00:16:01.000 leaking or any issues like that, then carefully laying your 275 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:04.159 your new hot mop, shower pan, or whatever material you 276 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:08.039 decide to use under you know, tucking it up underneath 277 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.759 that upper course of roofing paper and then just ceiling 278 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:16.600 the heck out of it, uh and fixing any potential 279 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:20.000 cracks and or tears that occurred in the roofing paper 280 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:21.840 in the whole process. In other words, if you can 281 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:26.039 get that tucked up underneath so that the overlap is 282 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.480 is solid, then you should be good to go. You 283 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:31.720 really should be good to go. And and here's the 284 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:35.000 here's the thing. You don't have to wait until you 285 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:38.720 retile to find out if you've done it right. And 286 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:42.840 that's really really important for you to know. Again, this 287 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:46.480 is a situation where, uh, you know, the tile was 288 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:50.000 never the thing that was waterproofing the shower. It was 289 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:53.759 simply you know, the first line of defense. But water 290 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:56.799 gets behind tile, water gets into the grout lines, and 291 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:01.159 it gets into the thin set the mortar behind the tile. Ultimately, 292 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:05.440 the thing that's waterproofing that shower is that paper, is 293 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:09.160 that roofing paper that's running up the walls. So once 294 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:13.839 the new shower pan has been repaired and put in, 295 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:18.599 before the new tile goes in, okay, before any tile 296 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:21.680 goes in, you can run the water in that shower 297 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:26.160 and run it at length, let water just directly hit 298 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.039 that roofing paper and the tie in and the new 299 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:31.000 hot mop or whatever it is that you're doing there. 300 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:34.279 Let it run, Get somebody underneath the house to make 301 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:37.880 sure that there are no leaks, no sign whatsoever. You 302 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:41.319 could run it for an hour or two and simply 303 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:44.240 let the water run to make sure that the tie 304 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:46.839 in has no leaks in it. And if you don't 305 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:50.839 see any water intrusion after that period of time, then 306 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:53.680 you've got the green light to go ahead and put 307 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:55.880 the mortar and finish tiling up that job. 308 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:58.440 That's a great idea. I did never would have thought 309 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:00.880 of that, and I feel so yes. 310 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:03.839 There you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't have to 311 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:06.279 go into it blind, just to go ahead and test 312 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:10.599 it once you're at the membrane stage, because the membrane 313 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:13.119 is the thing that's doing the work anyway, and uh, 314 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:15.160 and that way, if you get a leak, you can 315 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.640 deal with it right then and there, uh and not 316 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:20.839 be you know, worried about about it. But yeah, we 317 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.839 do that kind of thing all the time, just fyi wan, 318 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.599 especially when it comes to a century home restoration and repair. 319 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:31.039 So I understand your friend's concerns. Totally understand it. But 320 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:33.680 it can be done right, It can be done properly, 321 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:35.920 and it shouldn't be a problem down the road. Ronan, 322 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:38.440 thanks for your question and for your call. All right, 323 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:43.200 let's dive back in. Let's talk to Karen. Karen, welcome home. 324 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:46.759 Is there a way to stop cats from jumping on 325 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:49.400 the roof? Okay, I have it. There's a we have 326 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:54.000 a flat roof, and they they climb on the fence 327 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.480 and then they jump on the roof and they're really loud. 328 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:59.039 It sounds like a person walking up there. And they 329 00:18:59.079 --> 00:18:59.519 also have. 330 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:07.680 Cat Oh my gosh, a cat cat fights on the roof. Yeah, 331 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.279 it's a really good question. I'm not sure that I've 332 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:15.119 encountered that question before. All I could think of is 333 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:17.480 if there's somehow that you could put some kind of 334 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:19.680 a barrier up on the roof that isn't going to 335 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.039 be I mean, when we say a flat roof, do 336 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.559 you have a parapet is there like a parapet wall 337 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:26.680 around the outside of your roof? Or when you say 338 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.920 flat roof, it's just flat and visible for everybody to see. 339 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.359 There's like an obstruction. You can't really see it totally 340 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:37.079 just from certain angles is where you can see it better, 341 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.799 like the size and stuff, or it's flat. 342 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:41.920 The best thing I could think of is, you know, 343 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:46.359 there are those wires that have the small current in 344 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:48.960 them that we use to keep other pests outside of 345 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:51.799 the yard. Maybe there's a way of mounting it one 346 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.440 up there that would keep a cat from having access 347 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.160 to the roof. But of course we don't want to 348 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:00.319 do something that you know, looks ugly from the street. 349 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.319 So if it's something that you could pull off without 350 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:06.359 anybody else seeing it, then you could get creative in 351 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:08.640 that regard. But if I mean, if this is a 352 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:12.640 roof that everybody can just kind of clearly see, I 353 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:14.519 don't know, put a dog up on the roof. I'm 354 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:15.920 I'm not sure. 355 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:18.920 Yeah, it's a condo. 356 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:19.359 So you know. 357 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:23.160 Oh I got you, I got YOUA Yeah, I'm not 358 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:28.599 sure I know how to advise you on that one, Karen. Yeah, No, 359 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:30.680 that's a that's a good one. I think you stumped 360 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:36.039 me on that one. Yeah, I'm I'm not sure how 361 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:40.319 to keep cats off a flat roof. You got me? 362 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:45.319 There you go, you got me. I surrender, all right, Kerry, 363 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:50.319 good luck, Okay, thanks by bye. Bye. I'm so glad 364 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:52.319 you join him in this morning. Hang tight, there is 365 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:52.960 more to come. 366 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:57.319 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 367 00:20:57.400 --> 00:20:58.880 KFI AM sixty. 368 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:06.079 Good morning to you and welcome home. We are doing 369 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:13.960 an all calls weekend. Anything that's going on with your home, construction, design, issue, DIY, concern, 370 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:17.799 anything at all. You said the agenda. We'll put our 371 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:20.400 heads together, we'll figure it out, you and me. Okay, 372 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:23.200 sound good? All right, all right, we're going back to 373 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:26.279 the phones. I want to talk to Jason. Hey, Jason, 374 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:27.240 welcome home. 375 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:31.000 Hey, thank you. I'm an original homeowner and as such, 376 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:34.279 I have all the original photos of the framing, plumbing, electric. 377 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:37.319 The house is about fifteen years old, three thousand square feet, 378 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:40.640 two story. I'm in Orange County. We want to do 379 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.480 a modest extension or expansion of our existing dining room, 380 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.240 so that we would push out an exterior wall to 381 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:54.519 basically capture an existing outdoor alcove type area that also 382 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:59.440 has there's an exterior entrance to the kitchen that goes 383 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:01.359 into that ste area. So if you can imagine a 384 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:05.359 first story, little maybe hundred square foot alcove, there's an 385 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.799 exterior door from the dining room to that alcove. There 386 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.400 is an exterior door from the kitchen to that alcove, 387 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:12.960 and I'm like, well, hey, if we just pushed out 388 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:17.119 that wall maybe eight feet, we could have a way 389 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:19.400 to get into the kitchen from the dining room and 390 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:22.000 we'd gather up another hundred square feet. I reach out 391 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:24.440 to various contractors and they're like, hey, do you have 392 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:26.160 the drawings? I'm like, well, what do you mean? Well, 393 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.079 if when you go to get permits, they're going to 394 00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:31.079 want a drawing of the entire house, not just that 395 00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:34.759 little section. And I'm like, gosh, I'm yours aloner, but 396 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:37.599 I don't have any drawings. Well, you know, you either 397 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:39.559 have to get a firm to draw up the entire 398 00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:42.319 elevation of the house as it's existing and the plan 399 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:45.920 for that wall, or find another way to get them. 400 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:49.079 I'm sort of perplexed on like, a does the whole 401 00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:51.240