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Speaker 3: Friday edition of Cougar Sports.

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Speaker 1: Coming in first and foremost executive producer, co host hosts.

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Speaker 3: He does it all? Is what mn Ronald the Three Man.

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We were Roddie, how you living?

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Speaker 4: I'm living good, Ben, how are you guys doing today?

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Happy Friday? Everybody still can't believe we're in December and

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that a new year's coming upon us, Ben, This year

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went by fast, A lot of good happened, back and

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back double digit win seasons hard to do. But I

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can't believe that twenty twenty five is almost or or

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not there yet.

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Speaker 3: Though too blessed to be stretched? Is Ronald the Three

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Man move?

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Speaker 1: By the way, Ronald will be leading us up to

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tip off tomorrow for first edition Cougar Sports Basketball pregame show.

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So you got to keep us tuned in the one

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o three nine FM dow then I need within three

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FM dow here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network ESPN

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Speaker 3: Can't wait for that, Ronnie. Also, let's welcome to the show. Brent.

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Always bring the hammer Hammer Times show. What's happening? Brother?

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I have to do the hard hurt, the hard hitting

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big jay journalism, journalistic questions on the show.

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Speaker 5: But somebody has to do it, and I guess it

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has to be mean, it shall be. I have a question.

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I need to know if this is a Utah thing.

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I need to know if my family just never did

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this growing up. But as as the resident guy for well,

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I guess not from you've lived in Utah longer than

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any of us, and your wife I guess also is

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it from Utah?

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Speaker 3: I just need to know.

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Speaker 5: I guess, Okay, I guess maybe you're not even the

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best person to ask about this. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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answer it, but maybe maybe your maybe your family's like mine.

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So growing up for me and ron and I have

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had this conversation this morning. But growing up in my house,

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when we decorated the tree, it was like a family event.

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the tree. Whether my sisters were three and seven or whatever,

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it was, everybody was putting stuff on the tree. And

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we had a Christmas movie on and it was incredible

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and it was something that.

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Speaker 3: We did together. I loved that growing up.

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Speaker 5: I found out when I got married, though, that not

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everybody does it that way.

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Speaker 3: So my wife's house and and my in laws, and.

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Speaker 5: Look, if you know anything about Brett always bringing the hammer.

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I love my in laws. I say it time and

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time again on the show. My in laws are the best.

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This is not a shot shot shot. It might be

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a shot look and look, I promise you Neil doesn't

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even care. Neil actually probably prefers it this way. But

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my I guess my question is so in my wife's house,

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and I guess now my house, in my in law's house,

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the way they do the tree decorating is my wife

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Speaker 3: She does.

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Speaker 5: She has all these matching ornaments and a color scheme

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and all these signs and she decorates it all on

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her own. And that's how my mother in law is

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a tree that was just decorated by either my mother

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Speaker 3: And so I was like, Hey, I have this ornament

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that I really like. Can she put it on the can?

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I put it on the tree? And my wife goes.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't really go with like the style and the vibe,

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everybody just put whatever they wanted on the tree. This

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was not like a professional I'm gonna post this on

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my LinkedIn to get business type of deal. But apparently

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for some people, like decorating the tree is like a

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professional event. So I'm curious, like, how is it for you?

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What's it like at your house?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean I have a four year old

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and a two year old, so like what has to

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happen first is it's ben you need to bring down

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all the Christmas boxes? Right, so I'm power cleaning, like

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you know, So if anyone's ever so irved food before

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large plates, foods like I have my little like I

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have these massive binsp so I have to kind of

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like bring them onto my shoulder and then I'm holding

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them down as I'm you know, like forty fifty sixty pounds. Yeah,

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like I mean, they're pretty robust. A lot of crap,

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lot of crap. You know, we tend to accumulate crap

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over the years. As you you've lived in a home

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now for you know, almost five years. So I have

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a lot of crap. We have a lot of stuff

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Christmas stuff. I shouldn't call it crap. It's it's very sacred.

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So I bring all that stuff down and then we

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roll it into the kitchen. Right, it's my job to

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put up the Christmas tree. I can tell you what

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happened this year. Some of the lights were out there.

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tree with like the white fluffy stuff. I can't remember

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if it's a powdery and it's always like shedding and

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stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I hate this tree. I hate

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this tree. My wife had purchase a different tree for

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Speaker 5: Oh so you are also one of the families that

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has more than a tree in that in one tree.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: I assion my wife said we needed a tree, so

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she had already purchased one and set up her.

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Speaker 3: Own tree in our room. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there taking off like she had hodgepodge

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some other lights from last year because the lights had

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gone out like midway through December, and I didn't want

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to like get a new tree because it costs like

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five hundred freaking box yep. I don't want that anyway,

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I say, what we do? I don't like this tree

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out here? I say, we put the tree that's in

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our room out here, and then we'll bring this tree

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that I hate in there, and then I'll wrap around

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some old school Christmas lights onto this tree and everybody's happy.

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you know, I had to move that one tree bring

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it out, and there was all any ornaments on there,

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and I just had to put the star on. My

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wife decorated that tree, correct, Yeah, I already decorated that one.

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which is too big for the room, but it is

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what it is.

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Speaker 3: And then I put my dad or my wife.

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Speaker 1: We grew up with the traditional Like I don't know,

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is it clandest clan?

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Speaker 3: What is it? The lights called.

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Speaker 1: Clandescent, right, clandescent lights. I think that's called that's what

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Speaker 3: I'm not familiar. Yeah, it's like an I think it's

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clandescent lights. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: There are all the different colors like red, orange, green,

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blue bulbs, and they heat up, they heat up like

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you know, like so she loves those. We have those

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on the house energy built through the roof because sure

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not all that effective, and and so I wrapped those

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around the tree. Hopefully we don't burn down the house out.

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So that's what we do now. But what about growing up?

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Growing up, I want to say, like we were involved.

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I don't know if it was as like I don't

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remember like the Christmas story being on in the background

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and us all eight kiss coming together to like throw

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stuff on. Okay, I feel like it like we were involved,

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but it was more so like my mom that was

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creating the magic and my dad was probably creating the magic,

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and we could kind of aid and support.

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Speaker 3: I like your idea. I like I didn't know everyone

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didn't do it. The way that I I think it's great.

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Speaker 1: Like I I think like Christmas is about what I

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mean obviously about Christ, right, but it's about tradition, yeah,

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and being together, being together and.

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Speaker 3: Making members with family.

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Speaker 5: And I'll never argue that my tree growing up ever

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looked ten percent as good as the one that my

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wife has put up in our house. However, to me,

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I'm like, it's not about how good it looks. But again,

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I'm the man. I'm not the one. I'm not the

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woman who makes and my look, my wife has decorations

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for every season holiday.

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Speaker 1: I swear every Tuesday we have new decorations in my house.

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My wife always says, I have to make the house

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into a home. That's what she said, Yes, exactly what

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Speaker 3: Answer justification for making magical all the times of the year. Yep.

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So I can never make it look that good.

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Speaker 5: But the way I see it, I'm like, you know,

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we both got to be involved with decorating the tree. However,

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that's not how it went. I literally I was. I

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had one one ornament. I was like, hey, can I

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throw this on the tree. I love this ornament? She goes,

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I mean, well, like I love it, and like it's

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really cute and everything.

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Speaker 3: But like, I just, you know, you know what I'm saying.

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And I was like, no, I don't. I don't know

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what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: She's like, it would just be better, like if it

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just didn't go on the tree. And I'm like, yeah, okay,

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so you're saying is you don't want me to be

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a part of the tree decorating process.

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Speaker 3: And she's like.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, okay, well it looks incredible. I'll just

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my job is to carry the tree. Oh rat news

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all right, my wife sent a text. Who entered the

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portal or what's going on?

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Speaker 6: It's it's it's up upon the hill, Ben. But we

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can get it to nitty gritty if you want to.

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Speaker 3: Well, hey, break the news and then we'll get into this.

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Speaker 6: Right, we'll break the news.

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Speaker 3: Guys. Here it is.

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Speaker 4: This is from the official account of Utah Football. Kyle

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Whittingham to step down as Utah head coach, all time

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one against coach in Utah football history, will coach his

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last game for the Utes in the Las Vegas Ball

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on New Year's Eve, my birthday.

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Speaker 6: Haha, A great day to do it on.

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Speaker 4: He says this, it's the time is right to step

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down for my position as head football coach at the

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University of Utah. It's been an honor and a privilege

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to lead the program for the past twenty one years,

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and I'm grateful for the relationships forged with all of

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the players and assistant coaches and have worked so hard

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and proudly warned the drum and feathered.

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Speaker 6: During our time here.

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Speaker 4: The opportunity to guide so many talented young men as

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they pursue their goals, both on the field and off

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the university, the Salt community, all of you nation, and

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most of all, my wife and family for your unwavering

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support that has helped make Utah football what it is today.

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Speaker 6: Kyle Winningham.

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Speaker 1: Coach Kyle would have stepping down as head coach at

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breaking news, Uh, Kyle Whittingham is retiring. I didn't know

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if this would happen quite honestly, but going back to

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the BYU game, Ronald the three Man Weaver post a

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question to Kyle, and essentially it was, does the fact

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that you've lost three in a row in this rillery

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game influence you at all to come back next season?

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And he said no, because we were nine in a

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row before that, so we're still on the positive side

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of that ledger.

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Speaker 3: You know. It wasn't like a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: Of like After that, I was like, okay, like he's

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probably not coming back. But this offseason, I was like, man,

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they had a great season. They're top twenty five, their

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top what fifteen in the College Football Playoff Poll, They're

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going to a good bowl game, they're gonna finish strong,

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and they you see the influx of money coming with

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this private private equity deal. Even though you lose a

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lot of talent, especially along the offensive line, you still

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retain most of your offense. It looks like and skill

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position guys, and we'll see how the attrition plays out.

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he comes back, maybe there's an idea that he is

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coming back. Morgan Scalley's been the head coaching waiting for

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a long time. Though he may get a little bit impatient,

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there's still vacancies available, you know, Michigan's open now in

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Morgan Scalley that some have talked about him going out there.

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I don't know how many valid sources are saying that

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he's connected to that job, but there's plenty of other

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jobs out there still. There could be more open up. Shoot,

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who knows that Morgan could take a look at. And

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I don't think Morgan wants to leave the University of Utah,

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but he's kind of probably sitting there like, hey, it's

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my time, this is the place for me. Kyle decides

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that the time is right to step down from my

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position as the head coach at the University of Utah.

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And I believe after the Kansas State game, after that

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comeback victory Senior Day, Kyle was very emotional, and so

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that was another sign that like I'm like, Okay, he's

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probably on his way out.

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Speaker 3: But once again, like I.

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Speaker 1: Think this has been a struggle internally. You see this

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influx of capital. You see, Hey, you can go out

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and buy talent. He's like, well, I can still do this.

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I can win with this, louqual We just did. We

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were three points away from beating our rival.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like were we through three quarters?

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Speaker 1: We were fighting tooth and nail versus Texas Act, the

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number four team in the country, You know what I mean?

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Like we're right there on the cusp of greatness of

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elite college football productivity and wins. Again that there was

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maybe a battle there. I don't know, but the time

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is Righty States. It's been an honor and of privilege

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to lead the program for the last twenty one years,

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and I'm very grateful for the relationships forwards with all

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the players assistant coaches that have worked so hard and

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proudly warn the drum and feather during our time here.

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The opportunity to gut so many talented young men as

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they pursued their goals both on and off the field,

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has truly been a blessing. Thank you to the university,

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the Saltly community, all of yout nation, and most of all,

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my wife and family for your unwavering support that has

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helped make Utah football what it is today. Number one

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legendary coach, legendary college football player, a former BYU great

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whack defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Was a baller, tenacious, competitive, chip on his.

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Speaker 1: Shoulder, always moving forward, always competing, always winning, like one

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the Utes, got to you know, postseason play every single year,

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it seemed, broke the BCS to a degree, broke it.

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Beat Alabama and Oaight with a perfect seed. I mean,

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like all these things, like kept the momentum that Urban

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had created. Great coach, this man deserves a statue at.

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Speaker 1: And quite honestly, with everything that he accomplished at the U,

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I do believe, and some BA fans will disagree with me,

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everything that he accomplished at BYU and everything that he

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accomplished at the University of Utah, I believe that this

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man should be inducted into the BYU Football Hall of Fame.

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Like I said Hotte, but I think he should. I

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think it would be a tip of the cap to

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a legendary football player in BA football history. And look

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at what he's done with his coaching tree too. Kilanie's

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a part of that coaching tree. Jay Hill is a

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part of that coaching tree. A Rod's a part of

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that coaching tree. Your coaches right now at BYU, many

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of them stem from opportunities at the U of U. Now,

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did Kyle get rid of a Rod to a certain degree, Yes?

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Did he let Jay walk to Weaver Yes? Did he

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let Kilanie walk to Oregon?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Oregon State.

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Speaker 1: But he's had a significant impact as a part of

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Lavelle Edwards tree as well. The Wittingham family for a

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long time coincided with the BYU football family. Then he

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took his talents to the U said hey, BYU, You're

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not the place I need go to. The U must

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have been a difficult decision for him, there's no doubt

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about it. But in the last twenty one years he's

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won a ton of football games. So Number one, build

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a statue for him at rice Ecles Number two.

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Speaker 3: BYU fans. I know you hate this, but I hope.

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Speaker 1: The AD looks at this, evaluates this over the next

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few years and says we need to induct Kyle Whittingham

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as a BYU Football Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: Now, how would Kyle receive that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, would if he's not going to receive

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it warmly, kindly, nicely, He's like, nah, like because he's

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going to be inducted into two hall of fames, obviously

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the University of Uta Hall of Fame, and then you'd

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be inducted into the BA Football He may say, guys

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like no, like I made my bed, I'm gonna sleep

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in it. I was a former BA football player, but

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I'm a Utah man am I.

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Speaker 3: He may say, no, you don't need to do it.

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Does boy you still do it?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think both of those things

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need to happen. So congratulations to a success full coaching

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career sixty six years of age. Okay, been playing and

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coaching since he came out.

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Speaker 3: Of the womb. Essentially, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: The Winningham family is a football family. I've met a

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bunch of them, all of them football dudes, football players,

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football guys, as Ruden would say, got an eye for talent.

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You recently, you know, you've been doing some work with

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the Jimmer Furdet podcast from the Logo and Eric Weddle

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hopped on and discussed how Urban Meyer didn't even want him.

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It was Kyle Whittingham that as a football player, you

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know he advocated from Kylewddy has like diamond in the rough.

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I want this kid. I need this kid. Overall head

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coaching record once one hundred and seventy seven wins, eighty

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eight losses.

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Speaker 3: He's eleven and six in bowl games.

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Speaker 1: Mount West Conference champion in two thousand and eight, two

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PAC twelve Conference championships in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two.

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He's gone to two Rose Bowls, four PAC twelve Divisional

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championships in twenty fifteen, eighteen, nineteen, and twenty twenty one.

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He was the AFCA Coach of the Year in two

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thousand and eight, Paul bear Bryant Ward winner in two

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thousand and eight, Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year in

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twenty nineteen, two Time Pack twelve Coach of the Year

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two thousand, nineteen, twenty twenty one, Mountain West Conference Coach

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of the Year in two thousand and eight. In nineteen

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eighty one, he was the Whack Defensive Player of the Year,

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First Team All Whack in nineteen eighty one, and most

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wins obviously in.

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Speaker 3: Utah football history.

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Speaker 1: Right so your thoughts, your commentary, your follow up to it,

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Brett always bringing the hammer.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm with you this.

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Speaker 5: I truly was on the fence about whether or not

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he would come back, and honestly, after seeing the private

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equity deal, that's what because I thought he was I

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thought he was done, and then I saw the private

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equity deal and I was like, you know what, I

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wonder if that much money and that big of a

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budget to work with convincing someone, you know, maybe I

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don't even to go into retirement. And usually I feel

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like we hear rumors about things that are going to

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happen before they do, and most of the rumors I

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heard were saying, Hey, I.

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Speaker 3: Think Kyle's going to be done.

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Speaker 5: But then after he was supposed to give notice, I

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stopped really hearing anything, and I was like, maybe maybe he.

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Speaker 3: Really will come back.

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Speaker 5: Especially when you think about Ron's question to him of like, hey,

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you've lost three in a row, I almost feel like

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it kind of reminds me of like guys who want

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to go out on a Super Bowl. Obviously, you're not

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going to go out on a national championship. I shouldn't

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say obviously. Utah is capable of winning.

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Speaker 3: But something that's more I guess in your control is

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you can go out on beating BYU and so.

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Speaker 5: And they're certainly good enough. They've been good enough the

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last two years. They've been great games both years, and

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so that makes you wonder like maybe Kyle comes back

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just to finish on a win. But then you go

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to his last press cop where they asked him, Hey,

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what are you gonna do, like, what are you gonna

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make the decision? And not only does he say, I'm

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gonna watch college football this weekend, he goes, I'm watching

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college football spread eagle on the couch.

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Speaker 3: And and for those of you who don't know, spread.

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Speaker 5: Eagle is about as lazy a body position as you

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can be in.

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Speaker 3: Your body is just dead gone over it. And so

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when you hear.

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Speaker 5: That, that makes you think, yeah, he might just be

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ready to be done, and to be fair, he's earned it.

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And on top of that, as you were talking about

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this new NIL world that we live in, I mean, Ben,

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look at the all time coaches who have not adjusted

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or have retired since NIL started. Coach Saban retired, now,

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Kyle Whittingham has retired, Dabo Sweeney has it retired. But

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We've seen him really struggle to adjust to Nil. These

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coaches who were titans of the industry, Bronco took a

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00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,039
sabbatical and then leveled down to New Mexico and then

474
00:23:04,039 --> 00:23:06,640
went to your thus state. Because it's just such a

475
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:11,039
steep learning curve and it is essentially a new game altogether.

476
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,200
Everything everything that you thought would work pitching kids straight

477
00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:17,119
up on morals and merits.

478
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 3: Isn't good enough anymore.

479
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 5: Just having a great program that gets guys to the

480
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:23,200
NFL isn't good enough anymore.

481
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,319
Speaker 1: You have Meyer went from college to the NFL. Did

482
00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:27,039
you mention him? No?

483
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,319
Speaker 3: I didn't. That's another great one. I forgot about that.

484
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:29,880
Like it.

485
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:32,279
Speaker 1: I think it's just showing us like it's such a

486
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,279
tough adjustment.

487
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,039
Speaker 5: And that's not a shot at any of these guys.

488
00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:37,640
That's not a shot at win, that's not a shot

489
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,720
at Saban. It is truly proving the point that Nil

490
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,359
is a beast, and the world of college football that

491
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:44,960
we live.

492
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 3: In right now is a beast.

493
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Speaker 5: And I think it tells these guys like Kyle Winningham

494
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,640
and coach Saban, who are some of the best to

495
00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:55,440
ever do it, say I just don't know if I

496
00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,000
can keep up with how constantly changing a landscape this is,

497
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,640
and really living in a world where morals and merits

498
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,640
aren't enough to get a guy recruited, You have to

499
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,319
give him the bag, and everyone is in it for

500
00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:14,039
me and not we. And so I think that's another

501
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,319
interesting component to this conversation is when you think about

502
00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:20,880
it like that. My first question though, when I hear

503
00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:24,400
Kyle Whittingham's retired, is does.

504
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: That help or hurt the rivalry?

505
00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:28,319
Speaker 5: And I'm talking about like the internet side of things,

506
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,880
how people feel about it, how people treat one another,

507
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,519
because even this year, like we have Kyle Whittingham saying

508
00:24:35,519 --> 00:24:37,160
I'm not going to talk about Bear, I don't want

509
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,960
to talk about Yu because there's probably some kind of animosity.

510
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,200
We know there was an incident a few years ago

511
00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,559
at a game. And again, when you're that close, the

512
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:47,200
people that are the closest to you are the ones

513
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,000
who can hurt you the most. And so I wonder

514
00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:54,400
if getting a new coach helps or hurts this rivalry,

515
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,720
if it intensifies it or maybe it cools off a

516
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,039
little bit. I'm really curious to see how things go.

517
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,079
But anyone who doesn't think Kyle Whittingham is a Hall

518
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,960
of Famer. You're crazy. Any b YU fan today you

519
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:11,200
may be. In fact, b YU fans should probably be

520
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,799
happy today because now you're saying, man, we don't have

521
00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:16,640
to see that guy again. And any b YU fan

522
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,440
who wants to discredit Kyle Whittingham on this day, any

523
00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:23,119
moron or troll on the Internet who wants to discredit

524
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,640
Kyle Whittingham today, that's that's not where you're gonna find me.

525
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,559
And frankly, I hope you don't find yourself there. Kyle

526
00:25:29,559 --> 00:25:32,319
Whittingham is stepping down, and he deserves a round of

527
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,599
applause and a tip of the cap.

528
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: I was thinking about basketball coaches too, that stepped down Skrzyzewski.

529
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,920
I think Roy Williams at UNC Yeah right, Jim Beheim.

530
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:46,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, holy cow?

531
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 5: Oh, Villanova, j right, Jay Wright, Bruce Pearl, Bruce Pearl at.

532
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:58,799
Speaker 3: Auburn, Yeah, Auburn. He went into the earlier. Yeah, it's

533
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:02,880
just this year. Guy from Florida a couple of years

534
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,720
ago who was on ESPN for a while. I think

535
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,359
I guess now he's Tony Bennett Virginia.

536
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, who is a Georgetown guy who was the Yukon

537
00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:15,480
head coach before Hurley.

538
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: Calhoun.

539
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: Jim, I don't know, I'm trying to think of that

540
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,880
one anyway. Yeah, Bruce Pearl, I think, yeah, Jim Calhoun

541
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,279
retired for the final time in two day Jim Collen

542
00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:31,960
after the second stint at Saint Joseph's, but he was

543
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,799
a long time Yukon coach, I think anyway. Yeah, I

544
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:40,279
mean Urban Meyer, Nick saban Uh now now Kyle Whittingham,

545
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,279
some iconic coaching figures. It's just hard to think that

546
00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:49,039
that's not connected to nil like that all of these

547
00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:51,799
guys in a five year span, people that we and

548
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:53,480
and look, part of it was like they all got

549
00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:55,240
old at the same time because they were all great

550
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,799
at the same time. But the other component of this is,

551
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,440
as we're talking about, like Ni l has basically said.

552
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 5: Hey, I know what made you really good at your job.

553
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,480
We're taking that away. You need now something completely different

554
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:11,839
because it's not about merits and morals anymore. Yeah, which

555
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,319
you know that whole that whole commentary in and of itself,

556
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,839
it's just like, I mean, a lot of these guys,

557
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,039
it's kind of like coach O said, you heard that

558
00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:23,599
sound bite.

559
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was asked the question coach ozon what would

560
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,119
you do? How would you adapt to the new nil landscape.

561
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,680
He's like, Wow, instead of going through the back door,

562
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,119
they're coming through the front door. Now the bagman are

563
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,440
coming through the front door anyway, and he laughs it off.

564
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,759
Speaker 3: Everyone's been cheating.

565
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: Did you hear Johnny Manziel's commentary, Yeah, Johnny manziel I

566
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,160
shared this with a bunch of former players. I'm like,

567
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:51,759
just so everybody knows, like I am about ninety nine

568
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:56,079
point nine percent sure that no one on my team

569
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,319
from five to seven got any sort of bags.

570
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:01,519
Speaker 3: Nothing nobody.

571
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,519
Speaker 1: So we went eleven and two, eleven and two, and

572
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:06,680
then like, I don't think anyone got bags either.

573
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 3: In O eight oh nine without any bags.

574
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: So ba fantasy to realize we've been winning without being

575
00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:16,640
capable of getting bags and cheating everyone else has been

576
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,440
cheating everybody. So like when I say BYU has one

577
00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:24,119
more with per dollar spent than any college football team

578
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,680
in the country, I really mean that, not only from

579
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:33,400
an an internal organization standpoint, but also from a player standpoint.

580
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,880
We have not been getting those liquid funds. Those bagmen's

581
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:39,400
handed out cash to us.

582
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,839
Speaker 9: You'd be lucky as a football player to go get

583
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:47,279
a job locally that pagia, you know, twenty bucks an

584
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:50,559
hour or something like that for doing an average job,

585
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,599
an average day's work.

586
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: That was the best you were probably getting maybe free

587
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,759
golfs and some free food on occasion. That's about it. Wow,

588
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,599
that's about it, no bagman. Anyway, Let's go to break.

589
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:05,240
Congratulations Kyle Whitningham of the University of You Tom. I

590
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:08,359
think the silver lining and all this is. I'll say

591
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:10,599
this much. He's a legendary coach. He deserves a statue

592
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,200
and I believe boy he should induct him into their

593
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,160
BA Football Hall of Fame Athletics Hall of Fame. But

594
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,039
he has lost three in a row to BYU and

595
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:20,920
that's glorious. It's a glorious things for BYU fans.

596
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:21,559
Speaker 3: We'll go to.

597
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: Break, don't go anywhere more to get to we get

598
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,440
to some j Hills sound coming up next.

599
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,119
Speaker 3: What are his thoughts? Does Jay Hill still want to

600
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:28,759
be a head coach?

601
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,519
Speaker 1: Does he still want to be a head coach? That's

602
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:34,000
a good instanccressiable delve into it coming up next. That

603
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:36,599
was a great segment, though, guys, by the way, is

604
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,759
the season to be giving.

605
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: The road home.

606
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:42,799
Speaker 1: The road home dot org is asking you for your

607
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:46,599
donations right now, the road home dot org. Head on

608
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,759
over to any Rocky Mountain Chevy dealership. Okay, Rocky Mountain

609
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:52,720
Chevy dealership along the Wassatz Front.

610
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: You can go to ESPN thefan dot com.

611
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Speaker 1: See where those locations are and drop off nonperishable food items,

612
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,119
hygiene items and lightly used clothing, blankets.

613
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:02,559
Speaker 3: Whatever you whatever it.

614
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: Is that you have, drop it off, give to those

615
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,799
that are in most need. The road home dot org

616
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:10,359
and drop it off at those Rocky Mountain Chevy dealerships.

617
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We'll go to break. Don't go anywhere more to get to.

618
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This is Cougar Sports one of three nine naty eight

619
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point three.

620
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Speaker 2: ES fall team. Ben Qrittle was built, not born, and

621
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since two thousand and nineties built himself into the go

622
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to source on.

623
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Speaker 8: The radio and online for all things Cougars. This is

624
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,240
Cougar's Sports with Ben Kretle on one O three nine

625
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at ninety three ESPN.

626
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: The fans, We've come along away from where we began.

627
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,319
Speaker 7: I'll tell you all about it when again.

628
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:54,119
Speaker 3: When by car Legendary Cougar.

629
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 5: Leddaire you know on the planes, how many people fall,

630
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,400
how many of them are there?

631
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: But something Aaron the only kill and Kyle maybe I

632
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,359
don't know. Legendary but the hill is is how Klon

633
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:29,240
is considered, but that he is beloved, he has beloved.

634
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,279
Speaker 5: Or is it a legendary person who also participated for

635
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:34,480
both schools like legendary as a whole.

636
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I think Kyle embodies that.

637
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: I do think Utah, the Utah Utes, the fan base,

638
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,200
the former players, the media members, they beloved Kilan is

639
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,400
beloved by them. So there's only two maybe that are

640
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,720
beloved by both fan bases. Kyle Whittingham, actually Ronnie Matt coach,

641
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:57,079
coach Ron McBride. He's beloved by b A fans. I

642
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:59,759
think they love him. If you've ever chatted with him,

643
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,200
be love them. He's a great guy. So anyway, maybe

644
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,240
maybe only three, Maybe only three.

645
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: Maybe Lavelle has beloved to by utes. I don't think so.

646
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,400
I think he's a but so shout out to kyleen Aham.

647
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:14,160
It's been it's we've we've got a long way together.

648
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:14,880
You know.

649
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,279
Speaker 1: The thing that that I can say is, you know,

650
00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:21,960
when I've played in this Utah game, this holy war.

651
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:25,440
I'm two and oh against them, utes two and oh

652
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,440
against uh Kyle Whittingham, and uh, I know it's not

653
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,519
just me playing in that game. It takes wee, it's

654
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,880
not just me. But uh, I'm two and oh baby

655
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,519
against Kyle.

656
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,519
Speaker 3: It's tough to do.

657
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: It's been tough to beat Kyle Whittingham. Very few have

658
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:42,480
been able to say I got dubs. The last three

659
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:46,319
times though, those players, those teams, those coaches have been

660
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:46,920
able to say.

661
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: We we got you, We beat you in the same

662
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,440
conference as Utah, they beat them.

663
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 5: I put that out on my Instagram and you you

664
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:58,640
tough ends came for me. Oh, they hated it, but

665
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:00,920
I mean it's it's It's true. It's hard to beat

666
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,480
him when he hasn't a different advantage, you know. Yeah,

667
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:07,119
But you know what's funny to me is that, like,

668
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,920
there will be a day and you'll probably be taking

669
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,279
your grandkids to this game. That's how far away it's

670
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:15,119
gonna be. And your grandkids are gonna be like why

671
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:17,359
are they? And he'll be it'll be like the BYU

672
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,240
Utah game, and he'll come out and he'll do one

673
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:21,519
of those things where he's like holding a check or

674
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:25,160
he's standing at midfield or whatever, and your grands under

675
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,119
granddaughter's gonna.

676
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,799
Speaker 3: Be like, who's that guy? And you're gonna be like,

677
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,240
I don't.

678
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 5: Know how you could not know this because he was

679
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:34,039
such a big part of college football. But there's gonna

680
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,599
be someday some BUYU Utah game when he's gonna come

681
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,559
out and make his return, and it'll be cool.

682
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:43,559
Speaker 1: Love it, man, Love it ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, shout

683
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,519
out to Kyle Woodingham. He's taking his talents into retirement.

684
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:48,599
Now technically he's gonna still get paid by the University

685
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,000
of Utah.

686
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,039
Speaker 3: He's gonna be like an associate athletic director.

687
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:55,799
Speaker 1: He's gonna ride off into the sunset into the Administrative Administration.

688
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,559
Speaker 3: Building is where he's gonna be at.

689
00:33:56,759 --> 00:34:00,279
Speaker 1: Don't be surprised if he's on the board of of

690
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:07,119
the new Utah Brands LLC. That is, is still involved

691
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:13,239
in some way, shape or form in recruiting, development, retention. Okay,

692
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,639
as a senior analyst too, you know what I mean? Like,

693
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,199
why wouldn't you want him in the booth if you could?

694
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:21,679
Speaker 3: So?

695
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,039
Speaker 1: My question of the day, I'm gonna put it out

696
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:26,679
there here momentarily, but I do want to get to

697
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,039
some sound from Jay Hill. Where does this year rank

698
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:31,159
among the best seasons of BA football history? And how

699
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,840
does the bowl game performance factor into your rank? So

700
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,119
I want you guys to think about that.

701
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

702
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: If you look year over year, what Boway has been

703
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,280
able to accomplish eleven and two season only two losses

704
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,159
to the fourth ranked team, maybe then eventual national champion.

705
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,679
I think also like this, where does this year rank

706
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,440
among the best seasons. It's going to be probably influenced

707
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,960
and determined by where Texas Tech finishes. That's another element

708
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:59,239
in all this. So so it's something to debate, no

709
00:34:59,320 --> 00:34:59,920
doubt about it.

710
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,679
Speaker 3: Let's get into some soundbites.

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00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,119
Speaker 1: What do you say, Jay Hill, discussing all manner of

712
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,119
different commentaries your assistant head coach and defensive coordinator for

713
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,159
the BYU Cougar football team. Let's get into it here

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723
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into preparing for Georgia Tech.

724
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Speaker 7: Yeah, we've studied them a lot already. They have a

725
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,800
very good run scheme. I love it. It's complicated. They

726
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,519
can hit you from all angles, which is one reason

727
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:56,000
why it's been so effective. The quarterback obviously makes it run.

728
00:35:56,159 --> 00:35:59,599
The acc quarterback of the year, so I mean he's

729
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,760
played very, very good. He can run it, he can

730
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,719
throw it, and he's scored a lot of touchdowns this year.

731
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,719
So they've got weapons on the perimeter, and I think

732
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,079
their offensive line is athletics. So it's good offense, very.

733
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:18,199
Speaker 1: Good, really good offense. And their defense they're decent. They

734
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:19,800
don't take the ball away a whole lot, but they're

735
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:22,239
a good football team. They're nine in three this season.

736
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,159
There is the reason why they're a top twenty five team.

737
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,239
They've had some good victories this season and some disappointing

738
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,599
losses for certain so that's Jay hills scattering report on them.

739
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,480
Is Georgia Tech similar to any teams you've faced thus

740
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:36,159
far this year?

741
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 7: Jay Hill, Oh, schematically that they're a little bit like

742
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:46,760
West Virginia. Utah has a similar run scheme. Just it's yeah,

743
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:49,480
those would probably be the two closest I would think.

744
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: Hey, and you know b Yu was able to limit Well,

745
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,079
actually the run scheme for Utah getting outside the tackle

746
00:36:58,119 --> 00:36:59,920
box that was actually quite success.

747
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: Well, West Virginia not as much.

748
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,079
Speaker 5: No, and keep in mind everyone who's like, I don't

749
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:06,920
know how good Georgia Tech is because they couldn't even

750
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,639
compete in the ACC. This is a Georgia Tech team

751
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,360
who lost to Georgia by a touchdown. They lost sixteen

752
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,079
to They held Georgia to sixteen points.

753
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

754
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:20,199
Speaker 5: Now, the only reason they couldn't win because Georgia's defense

755
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,880
is elite and they couldn't score. But in a rivalry

756
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,000
game on a neutral field. It wasn't even at home.

757
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:29,039
It was actually in Mercedes Benz dumb, which all my

758
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:30,880
friends from Georgia and I are wondering why they did that.

759
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,599
Different story for a different day, but they almost beat

760
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,000
a Georgia team who is going to be a team

761
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,639
to be reckoned within the playoffs. And yeah, what makes

762
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:43,719
Georgia Tech so tough to defend is that their running

763
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,320
backs are incredible and similar to BYU, one of their

764
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,199
best running backs also happens to be able to throw

765
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:50,679
the football.

766
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,159
Speaker 3: And a guy named Haines King.

767
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,199
Speaker 5: Who probably if if Georgia gets Georgia Tech gets to

768
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,000
eleven wins, if they win, the acc were probably talking

769
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,960
about Hayines King for a Heisman because he was up.

770
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,719
They're in that conversation for a long time, so I

771
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,039
think it'll be probably. I think Utah is a really

772
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:10,320
apt comparison because Devin Dan Pierre and whoever they had

773
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,280
they slided in there at that quarterback spot was just

774
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,960
as much a threat to throw the ball as they

775
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,840
were to run on every single snap. That's exactly how

776
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,880
Georgia Tech and his Haines King offense it is going

777
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,199
to be this season.

778
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: Their nine wins came against Colorado twenty seven to twenty,

779
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,000
Gardner Webb fifty nine to twelve. They beat Clemson twenty

780
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,079
four to twenty one, beat Temple forty five to twenty four.

781
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:34,519
They beat Wake Forrest thirty to twenty nine. And Ot

782
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,199
it was a good win. Virginia Tech thirty five to twenty.

783
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:40,199
They beat Duke twenty seven to eighteen. That was at

784
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,280
Duke Syracuse forty one to sixteen. They lost to NC

785
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,880
State that was at NC State forty eight to thirty six.

786
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:46,559
Speaker 3: Kept it close.

787
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,599
Speaker 1: They were at Boston College and beat them thirty six

788
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,280
thirty four.

789
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:51,559
Speaker 3: They beat pitt Or.

790
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:55,079
Speaker 1: They lost to pitt that was at home forty two

791
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:58,679
to twenty eight. And then they lost to Georgia sixteen tonight.

792
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,599
So when they have lost these in competitive games, no

793
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,079
doubt about it. All right, Let's get back to some

794
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:10,119
of the commentary from Jay Hill. Is Georgia Tech, excuse me?

795
00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:13,239
How full of how full of a defense? When we

796
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,039
see in the bowl game? Are you are any guys

797
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:16,119
planning to opt out?

798
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,199
Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean, that's that's that's the way

799
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:22,320
of the world right now. I don't I don't see

800
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,559
it really happen in that much of BYU. We have

801
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:26,840
great kids that want to play one more game together,

802
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,840
and that's such an individual decision that they have to

803
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,239
handle on their own. But I think we'll have the

804
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,039
big majority of our guys for sure.

805
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: So far we only have two portal entries, le Mason

806
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,239
Waller and Don McKenzie, both wide receivers.

807
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,039
Speaker 3: I don't know anything.

808
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:48,079
Speaker 5: However, I feel like I read people pretty well and

809
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:51,719
that feels like one of those answers, which is I

810
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,039
know some things and I've heard some things, and I

811
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:56,320
don't know how to properly answer this question.

812
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 3: So probably somebody, but also J.

813
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 5: Hill's like, first of all, we're wind no matter who's

814
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,559
on the field, and second of all, like, just because

815
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,079
I don't know, I think we're more mature with opt

816
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:09,719
outs as a as a people, as a fan base

817
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,159
than we used to be. It used to be if

818
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,559
somebody opted out, we were like, oh wow, you're soft,

819
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:15,199
you don't want to play another football game. And now

820
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,480
it's more of like, yeah, it sucks and we're sad

821
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:19,599
about it, but we get it. You're doing it because

822
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:21,320
you're trying to go get paid at the next level.

823
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, well we wish whoever opt outs well

824
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,159
in this process. First practice back, how did it go?

825
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,719
How did the team look coming back off of the

826
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,119
Big twelve championship game?

827
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 7: Oh? Yeah, it was fun. It was fun to be

828
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,880
back out there. This is a great team. I mean,

829
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,079
they love each other, they play hard for each other,

830
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:45,039
they practice well against each other. So it was just

831
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:46,280
good to get back out there.

832
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,119
Speaker 1: You wonder, okay, And as we go through this reading

833
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:56,679
between the lines, remember Jay Hill was a ute for

834
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,440
a long time and then he left. He went to

835
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,960
Weaver State and then somehow some we convinced him to

836
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,519
come to BYU. And I think that transition was I

837
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:09,039
don't know if it was difficult, but like, realize, when

838
00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:14,360
you've competed against BYU, you've recruited against BYU, You're gonna

839
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,639
look at all the follies of BYU football. BYU as

840
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:25,800
an organization, it's fan base. You may poke fun at

841
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,079
certain elements of the culture, right Like all those things

842
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,960
are a part of who you've been for a long

843
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:36,440
time as a player, as a coach in your career.

844
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:37,679
Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Yeah?

845
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:43,159
Speaker 1: And so I wonder, like how much BYU has rubbed

846
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,360
off on Jay Hill to the point where he's like,

847
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,960
you know what, Like, I really like it here. I

848
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,599
don't know if I want to leave here, right Like,

849
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,119
that's what.

850
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:58,599
Speaker 3: I'm getting at here. We have great kids here.

851
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: Can you recruit once you've experienced I had a conversation

852
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,079
with Gary Anderson about this, Like, once you've experienced that

853
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:07,320
locker room at b YU and who you're coaching, Like

854
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,639
he's coaching Tannerwall. Tanner Wall is like an AFCA All

855
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:14,480
Works team. He's got like all these off he's on

856
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:17,480
the field first team Big twelve and off the field,

857
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:19,679
he's everything that you want your son to be or

858
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:21,320
your son in ladab you know what I mean, Like

859
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:21,880
you're like.

860
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: Grant.

861
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: He's coached Eric Weddell, who was once again that that

862
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,440
he coached that at Utah. Right, Kyle woodinghambent out got him.

863
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,119
So maybe you can go and find those guys. Yeah, right,

864
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:36,639
But you wonder there's You wonder if there's just more

865
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:39,480
of an aggregate of those guys in that locker room.

866
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:41,400
And I've always said it, I believe that there is.

867
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,559
I think there's high level kids and high level places

868
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:44,800
due to high level people.

869
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: That raise them.

870
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: And uh, and By's locker room is just unique and

871
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,559
single in that way. And you wonder if that keeps

872
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:54,400
him grounded as an assistant head coach and defensive coordinator.

873
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,719
We'll get into a couple of these soundbites here. So

874
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:03,719
the practice went well, Okay, obviously, let's get into let's

875
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,480
get into number five here, and then we'll get to

876
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,920
the head coaching conversation here in a moment. But the

877
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:12,360
fact that Folataw is your leading tackler, he's a strong safety.

878
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,960
Is that a good or a bad thing for your safeties?

879
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,480
That when your safeties are leading in that category?

880
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 7: Well, we use those guys a lot in the run

881
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,079
fits and in this defense, safeties are always going to

882
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:28,440
be close to the top. I mean that could be

883
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,679
for a lot of reasons. Right now, that's that's run,

884
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,280
that's past. That's him just being a playmaker and showing up.

885
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,199
I mean, he had a really, really good year and

886
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,280
he's one of our best players, so it doesn't surprise

887
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,400
me that he was up there.

888
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: So no problem there.

889
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: You know box players, you see Tanner roll in, you

890
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,480
see Fola Towel rolling.

891
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: We love seeing follow Town in the box. He's a

892
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,239
great box player.

893
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 5: This feels like one of those stats that you can

894
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,440
make it say whatever you want, And here's proof of that.

895
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:58,880
BoA's record is what eleven and two, eleven and one

896
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,320
prior to the Big twelve champ yep, So we can

897
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,079
look at that and say, well that's just how the

898
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:07,760
defense is designed to operate. However, the opposite could also

899
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,079
be true, Like the way you know this stat means

900
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:12,079
anything is the fact that by is eleven and one,

901
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,199
Because if BYU was one and eleven, then I would say, yeah,

902
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:19,719
it's probably a problem that you're leading tacklers a safety

903
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,159
because that means everybody is getting through and the first

904
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:23,599
time somebody's getting touched is.

905
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:24,599
Speaker 3: At that third level.

906
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,159
Speaker 5: But here and I don't know, I don't know who

907
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:29,599
asked that, and it probably could have been asked a

908
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,000
little bit better, and I understand asking questions are hard

909
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,960
on all of those things. I think it says more

910
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,119
about Fallataw than it does like, oh, the defense and

911
00:44:38,159 --> 00:44:40,119
the safeties is the first guy making I don't think

912
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:42,360
that's what it says. I think what it says is

913
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,679
that Fallataw is really not necessarily just a safety. He's

914
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,840
a guy who can play anywhere on the field, and

915
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,239
that's why he raps up so many tackles, not because

916
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,960
guys are just bursting through the hole and the first

917
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,880
time they get touched is by fall of town.

918
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: I think you can make that number say kind of

919
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,679
whatever you want. I feel on that. I read you

920
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,239
read you aloud and clear.

921
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: Let's get back to Jay Hill comments from media availability,

922
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,719
your assistant head coach. We haven't been able to talk

923
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,599
to you since the Kalonate Skataki extension. What was the

924
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:15,719
attitude of the coaching staff and how do you feel

925
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,079
about the extension?

926
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 7: Jay Well elated. I mean, Colonnie's the best guy in

927
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,320
the world to work for. He's super fair, he loves us,

928
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,480
he's passionate about by BYU's lucky to have him. And

929
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,840
I mean, I couldn't say enough great things about just

930
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,840
Byu administration getting this done and Kilani being here is

931
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,559
a huge.

932
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,559
Speaker 1: Deal, huge deal, big deal, no doubt about it, no way,

933
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:44,039
if sands or but is the best coach in the

934
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,840
country to work for. I agree with that. Like everything

935
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,639
that I've heard, every coach likes to coach under Killane.

936
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:57,320
Why is that? Well, he allows you to operate within

937
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,880
your position group, operate within your offense or a defense

938
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,239
and responsibilities. He's not gonna micromanage it. Does anyone do

939
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,239
you guys like to be micromanager? Brett do you enjoy it?

940
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: Ronald? Do you like to be micromanaged? No?

941
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 7: I don't know.

942
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,199
Speaker 1: No one likes to be micromanaged, you know, but that

943
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,519
being said, was Nick Saban a micromanager?

944
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: Yes? Is he the greatest coach all time? You know?

945
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: So, like there's many different ways to lead, is what

946
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,440
I'm getting at, but one some are more enjoyable than

947
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,880
the other. You have to be a self starter if

948
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,480
you're being if you coach under Killane, if you're not

949
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:35,400
a self starter, you may fall short a little bit, right,

950
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,599
You're gonna fall short in your position, group, in recruiting,

951
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,519
in execution, or in your coordinating duties.

952
00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 3: So you gotta be a self starter.

953
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: Saban's gonna make sure he gets the guys in there,

954
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,719
and he's gonna he's gonna be managing you day in

955
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,360
and day out. And like I said, there's pros and gud.

956
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,719
I think Levell was more of a master delegator similar

957
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:58,119
similar to that of Kilani and Kilanieh.

958
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,679
Speaker 3: Is the Polynesian level this extension or he will be?

959
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,159
Does that make sense? Yeah?

960
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: So I'm just kind of taking all that into account.

961
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,559
You're looking, you're looking pension.

962
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:10,039
Speaker 3: Well, I have a it may be something on the Kyle.

963
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,039
Speaker 5: Whittingham situation, which I know is not necessarily what we're

964
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:15,880
talking about right, let me independent research.

965
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: I see.

966
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 5: I always say nothing means everything, but everything means something.

967
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:22,559
There is right now a little bit of discourse on

968
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:26,280
the internet as to whether or not Kyle Whittingham is

969
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,840
retiring or.

970
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 3: Whether or not he is stepping down.

971
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 5: So Chris Vanini just retweet just posted saying Chris Camerani,

972
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,679
who is another reporter at The Athletic, reports the sixty

973
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,280
six year old Whittingham is not retiring and could still

974
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,559
seek other coaching opportunities. If you go to the article

975
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:48,840
by Camaranni and Stuartman What of the Athletic, The article

976
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,840
says again Whittingham, sixty six, is not retiring, according to

977
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,239
a source close to the coach, and may pursue other

978
00:47:56,519 --> 00:48:00,840
coaching opportunities. So it sounds like, and this is from

979
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,920
the guys at the Athletic, Chris Vanini is reputable.

980
00:48:05,639 --> 00:48:08,599
Speaker 3: Screenshot that and tweet that out. That's interesting, so.

981
00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 5: Really interesting stuff, which I'm not gonna lie to you.

982
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,079
When I read and it said stepping down, I was like,

983
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,679
that's an interesting choice of words when we're all assuming

984
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:18,280
it's retiring.

985
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 3: And again, it could have just been a choice.

986
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,039
Speaker 5: Uh, it could have just been that he didn't use

987
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:25,960
those words, but he could have. But when you now

988
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,039
everyone at least the the athletic is saying those words.

989
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: Chosen very carefully.

990
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 5: Step down as opposed to retire now then ding ding

991
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,840
Ding again conspiracy theorist number one here at ESPN the fan.

992
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,159
I look, Michigan is looking for a lot of people,

993
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:48,480
and they're gonna have to pry someone's They're gonna have

994
00:48:48,519 --> 00:48:51,719
to pry Kalin to borof Alabama, they're whoever you Because

995
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,559
it's Michigan. You don't go higher the up and coming guy.

996
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,480
You go get the guy. Kyle Whittingham is a youth

997
00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:00,559
throw and through. He's a Utah guy through and through.

998
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,480
But he's Michigan enough to make Kyle Whittingham say, hey,

999
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,599
just come give it a couple more years here until

1000
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:11,159
we can get the next great guy, and then you

1001
00:49:11,199 --> 00:49:13,760
can walk out. And then you know what, Kyle, if

1002
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,599
you come to Michigan, you may go down as not

1003
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,000
just one of the Big twelve PAC twelve greatest coaches

1004
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:23,840
of all time, you'll get national recognition for being one.

1005
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 3: Of the greatest coaches of all time. Oh my goodness,

1006
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,760
gracious you wonder I don't know, man, that's that's pretty crazy.

1007
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: Can you can give me nothing, but it could be something,

1008
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,920
could be something, something to keep an eye on. A

1009
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,840
couple last soundbites before we call it a segment. Personal question,

1010
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,960
Do you ever want to be a head coach again?

1011
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 3: Jay Hill? Sure?

1012
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:59,199
Speaker 7: I mean that always is intriguing, but that you just

1013
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,159
never know to be where your feet are? And yeah,

1014
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,639
I mean that's a hard question because yes, but yes,

1015
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,199
but no, I mean I love where I'm at, and

1016
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,559
it would have to be something that everyone said, Okay,

1017
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:14,119
I get that, and it would have to be a

1018
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:16,960
great situation for family and everybody.

1019
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: So okay, so what does that mean, guys? He said?

1020
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,400
The first thing he said is let's listen to it again. Okay,

1021
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,559
listen to it. It's entirely okay. So do you ever

1022
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:32,440
want to be a head coach again? J? Hill?

1023
00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 7: Sure? I mean that always is intriguing, but that you

1024
00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:42,000
just never know. You got to be where your feet are.

1025
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:47,079
And yeah, I mean that's a hard question because yes,

1026
00:50:47,159 --> 00:50:50,719
but yes, but no, I mean I love where I'm

1027
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,519
at and it would have to be something that everyone said, Okay,

1028
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:55,119
I get that, and it would have to be a

1029
00:50:55,159 --> 00:50:57,960
great situation for family, and everybody.

1030
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: So okay, so of course, for sure, but you have

1031
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,800
to be where your feet are, he says, I really

1032
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,239
like where I'm at. It would have to be a

1033
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:17,159
really good situation for me and my family. I think

1034
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:19,760
this means. This is how I interpret it. Okay, I'll

1035
00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:22,480
I'll give it to you like this. I think he's happy.

1036
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:23,960
I think he's being taken care of. I think he

1037
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,559
gets to focus on football, and I think he has

1038
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:28,239
jurisdiction over his defense, and to a certain extent, he

1039
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,440
probably you know, some of the special teams unit stuff

1040
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,880
and recruiting and stuff like that. He gets to focus

1041
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,880
on football, doesn't have to worry about the heads coach stuff.

1042
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,320
But he is also put into a position where he's

1043
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,440
being interviewed by media and he's being put on a pedestal.

1044
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,760
And the fans love him, right, the ad loves them.

1045
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:51,039
Everyone loves Jay Hill, right. He's he's definitely the popular

1046
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:53,880
kid on campus, popular coach on campus.

1047
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that?

1048
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:55,119
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1049
00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: Okay, that being said, like, I don't think he's gonna

1050
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,920
take any old head coaching job. I don't think he

1051
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,960
wants to go even outside of the state. I think

1052
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:11,920
it would have to be Utah or BYU. That's what

1053
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:16,159
I think. And he's not up yet for that Utah

1054
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:21,239
head coaching job. He's still very young, right, Jay Hill?

1055
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,679
How old is Jays?

1056
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:23,519
Speaker 3: He fifty yet?

1057
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't think he's even fifty born in nineteen seventy five.

1058
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:33,239
So he's getting he's getting up there, but he's still

1059
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,679
young man. He's got all matter of vigor and vim

1060
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:43,960
fifteen years old. He's fifty, okay, So where would coach?

1061
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,400
He's got what you got ten to fifteen more years

1062
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,920
at most, Kyle? Would he have sixty six? He just

1063
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,760
may have retired. Who's the oldest coach in college football

1064
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,239
right now?

1065
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:57,639
Speaker 3: I think once you get.

1066
00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: Into retirement age, he's got ten to fifty more years.

1067
00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:04,199
Where do you Where would he want to go as

1068
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,039
a head coach? It has to be regional. I don't

1069
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:10,320
think he's going to take his his family to the

1070
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,119
East coast. I don't think he's going to take his family.

1071
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,639
I mean maybe as far as the Midwest, but he's

1072
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:20,360
gonna stay West coast. So what team? What situation that

1073
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,360
you're looking on this map? He would say this is

1074
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,679
the place, this is where I want to be. What

1075
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,079
do you think Ronald the three man Weaver.

1076
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 6: I don't know necessarily about college. Some people may think

1077
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,360
this is crazy.

1078
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: He look been at the end of the day. He's

1079
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:36,960
at the end of the line anyway, he's close to retirement.

1080
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,559
What if he just takes an NFL head coaching and

1081
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:41,199
not a head coaching job. But what if he decides

1082
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:43,280
to take a coaching job in the NFLK.

1083
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:45,679
Speaker 1: We're talking about head coach. He's a head coach, He's

1084
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,559
been a head coach. He likes to operate, he likes

1085
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:49,320
to have, you know, jurisdiction.

1086
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 6: I mean, is he gonna go to Michigan though?

1087
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,639
Speaker 4: Like that's the thing about it, Like the jobs that

1088
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:56,400
are available, Like I don't think exactly.

1089
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 6: So it's like, so what job would he take then?

1090
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,079
Speaker 4: Like that's like it's limited opportunity, Like you're not going

1091
00:54:01,159 --> 00:54:03,960
to take a down a pay integradeing with Utah in

1092
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,119
the momentum that they had. So that's why I'm saying

1093
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:08,440
NFL because I don't think there might be a job

1094
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,679
maybe at the college level, unless he's gonna, you know,

1095
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,400
take a oc DC job or be an.

1096
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 6: Analyst somewhere else. And if not, why wouldn't you just

1097
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,559
stay with Utah.

1098
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,599
Speaker 1: So you know what's interesting is like you wonder if

1099
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:19,280
he got a call for like the Iowa State job.

1100
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,000
Matt Campbell goes to Penn State and it's like, hey,

1101
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,079
did he get a call? And he's like, no, I'm good.

1102
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,639
Like let's say he got a call and he's like.

1103
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:26,199
Speaker 3: No, I'm good.

1104
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:30,639
Speaker 1: Okay, Well obviously that I always stay that's a good job, right,

1105
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:33,079
it's a pretty good job in Oklahoma. Maybe he got

1106
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:35,960
a call from Oklahoma State. No, I'm good. So we know,

1107
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,920
let's just say that he got a call and he

1108
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:42,119
didn't even want to get in because he's like, no,

1109
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:44,199
I'm not gonna take my family there, you know what

1110
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,000
I mean? Like, Okay, then it has to be more

1111
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:49,639
West Coast is what I'm getting at, and it may

1112
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:51,199
not be a.

1113
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 3: Big twelve kind of like.

1114
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: Truck stop conference type of type of head coaching job.

1115
00:54:58,039 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Yeah, no, I get it.

1116
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:05,119
Speaker 6: If he can't get a.

1117
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 5: Meat, I think some people are going to mistake his

1118
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,079
stuttering and lack of shorty in that question as Oh,

1119
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:13,199
he's going somewhere.

1120
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 3: Here's what I think.

1121
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 5: I think Jay Hill's a smart guy who understands that

1122
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:19,239
social media is a real thing that fans will run

1123
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:24,079
with anything, and sometimes by trying to not say the

1124
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:29,159
wrong thing, you maybe don't answer the question as clear

1125
00:55:29,199 --> 00:55:32,039
as you can, and then people take that for a

1126
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:34,559
whole other answer. I don't think Jay was like, well,

1127
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:37,239
I know I'm getting interviewed somewhere right now, so I'm

1128
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,920
just not gonna say anything, But what do I say?

1129
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 3: I don't think that's what it was.

1130
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 5: I think he just wanted to say the right thing

1131
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,760
because he's in a situation where he loves where he is,

1132
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,920
he loves by you, and he doesn't want people.

1133
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: To take his comments as oh, well, Jay Hill wants

1134
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,719
to leave. He doesn't want to leave.

1135
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 5: But also, everyone working everywhere in America right now wants

1136
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,360
to be promoted. They all want to move on to

1137
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,840
whatever the promotion is at your company, your job, whatever it.

1138
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: Is, and that's not evil to want that thing.

1139
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 5: So I think Jay Hill was just answering the questions

1140
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,719
strategically because it's this human being who does want to

1141
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,800
move up, but he also loves where he currently is

1142
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:13,719
right now, So.

1143
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 6: Big question for you.

1144
00:56:14,519 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 4: Then, Morgan Scalley becomes the head coach DC job is available,

1145
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,760
what if UTAs willing to pay you more than what B.

1146
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 3: WHYU is paying you? You know, we want to give

1147
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,880
you four million.

1148
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 6: One hundred percent B? Why you might not compete?

1149
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: Well? What about that too?

1150
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: Does he want to be the DC for Morgan Scalley?

1151
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,119
That's the question how I would view it. I don't

1152
00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:40,840
think he's got a bad relationship with Morgan. I think

1153
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,639
if I'm looking at it from a timeline standpoint, Kyle

1154
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:49,639
Whittingham was the the defensive coordinator and head coach at

1155
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,039
at at Utah Excuse me?

1156
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 3: Who did he.

1157
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: Elevate to d C first? Well, when he got the

1158
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,079
head coaching jo Gary Anderson? Gary Anderson then took the

1159
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:02,000
job at Utah State. Who did he elevate after that?

1160
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,760
Kilanie Satake? Who did he elevate after Kilani? When Kilani

1161
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,039
left two Oregon State with Gary? After Gary was at

1162
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:15,480
Wisconsin and then went over to Oregon State, John peas

1163
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:18,760
for a year in twenty fifteen. By twenty fourteen, under

1164
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,760
twenty fourteen, j Hill had been passed up as the

1165
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:29,519
DC and he so he went to Weber State instead. Right,

1166
00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:32,280
he went to Weaver State and became the head coach there.

1167
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,760
Maybe he was never going to be that DC there

1168
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:39,360
at Utah. Morgan Scalley got the DC job after Peace,

1169
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:45,480
So if he had wanted to, like if Kyle wanted

1170
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:47,599
Ja to be the DC and pay him a pretty

1171
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:50,719
penny with Power five money at the time packed twelve money,

1172
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,199
he would have gone out and got.

1173
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: Jay to be the DC.

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Speaker 1: So it kind of seems like Kyle chose Morgan, chose Kilani,

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chose these other guys, right Yeah, And it's like, hey,

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like I don't know if I I don't know if

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he'd want to.

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Speaker 3: Work under Morgan, is what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 1: That's fair because they're they're like contemporaries, even though even

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though Kilanie was also contemporary, but like Kilanie was, you know,

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I feel like Jay's being very altruistic and genuinely He's like,

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no one's better to work for than Kilanie, Like I

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love Kilanie. So I'm taking him at his word there.

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I think he I think he would rather work for

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Kilanie than Morgan, agreeing with a pay raise. That's how

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I view it. Nothing against Morgan, nothing against the youths.

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That's his alma mater, and I'm sure he'd love to

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go back and bring them, you know, glory and victory.

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Speaker 3: But he also is going to be able to see

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the trends.

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Speaker 1: Does he see b YU trending in the right direction

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or U tah trending in the right direction. They're both

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trending in the right direction. In my opinion, it's just

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which one's trending in a more positive way. Yep, So

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interesting commentary there. Uh, let's go with the one last one.

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How as far as looking back at Texas Tech, did

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you just burn the tape and move on or did

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you guys actually evaluate it?

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Speaker 7: Okay, so there's a lot to learn from that tape,

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so you got to look at it. You gotta be

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humble enough to say, Okay, where can we get better?

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But do we want to dwell on something like that?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 7: Give Texas Tech tons of credit. They're a great football team.

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They outplayed us both times we played this year, and

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we got to give those guys credit. But we're still

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a top twelve team in the country. In my opinion.

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We played very good all year. We did not do

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the things in those two games that you have to

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do to win, and that's when the turnover margin, when

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the average starting field position bottom line with the short

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fields and us not getting turnovers in those two games.

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That hurt us, and the defense was just as much

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a part of anything in those two games as anybody

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because we got to create short fields, we got to

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get turnovers, we got to get off the field. We

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got to do the things we need to do to win.

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And if that means holding teams the one hundred yards

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or two hundred yards, that's what you got do.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: That's Jay Hill discussing the uh the the.

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Speaker 3: Tape, the Texas Tech tape.

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Speaker 1: Real quick, it's it's a buzz right now. Everyone's talking

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about Kyle Whittingham not retiring. He's going to continue to coach,

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at least evaluating we do. He have his sixty six

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and he's not retire, according to a source close to

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the coach, and may pursue other coaching opportunities.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back.

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Speaker 1: What other head coaching opportunities does he want, does he need?

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Speaker 3: Is he looking for?

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Speaker 1: And we'll get into some some of our interviews as well.

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Don't go anywhere, Cougarnation. That was a little bit of

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reading between the lines, a little reading between the lines

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here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network with Jay Hill.

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Great commentary from Jay and definitely he gave us a

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few things to talk about here on your Utah ESPN

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