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Speaker 3: The plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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Speaker 3: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raising
Kanes Studio.
Speaker 4: All right, welcome back again, Hour number two OTV here
live from the Raising Caines Studio. Again, it was LSU
twenty three Arkansas twenty two. LSU gets to six and
four on the season, three and four in sec play
with a chance to have a five hundred record. If
you're able to go on the road and pull off
an upset against Oklahoma. We'll get there. Whenever that happens.
But now we'll go back to some of the Arkansas
film and Matthews.
Speaker 5: Ready to go. I think, yeah, absolutely, we're ready to go.
So we we love breaking down some film around here.
So if you are, you know, if you got a
chance to pull up the old YouTube and watch along.
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Speaker 1: And watch it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it can wait. It can wait. You can always
catch this later as well. The text can wait. The
text can wait. So let's go to the film here,
and if you're if you're just listening to radio, we're
gonna we're gonna kind of break it down and Jake's
gonna kind of help us kind of talk through this.
So here's a really nice play. This is a second
quarter eleven thirty nine left.
Speaker 1: What we do here.
Speaker 5: You could tell that the LSU offensive staff was expecting
a lot of cover two uh, because this is a
straight cover two beater route concept that we're running right here.
So we got a little I must call it a
little wide bunch situation out here. So we got three
receivers to the right in a bunch formation with the
middle guys holding the point. And then we have a
on the X down here we got a nasty split.
What a nasty split means, It's just the wide receiver
is in tight close to the line of scrimmage. What
they're trying to do here is actually get the nasty
split the receiver to chip on the way out, which
again I don't love, but a couple of really nice
things to watch here on display execution from Van Buren
on a believe it's a third down here. So what
we got here is a cover two beater. So what's
gonna happen here is you got two safeties. They're split safeties.
They're gonna get the halves of the field. So Aaron
Anderson is gonna run a basically a snag route. I'm
gonna call a snack route, and then the tight end
air trade isn't gonna come and run an OTB route
or over the ball. So what they're gonna do and
OTB route's gonna hold the miclif bench.
Speaker 1: Although if you want to call it off the bench.
Speaker 5: He's gonna run the off the bench ro out to
hold the miclimbbacker, and then the snag route's gonna hold
the Sam linebacker, and then when the safety gets wide
over the top, what we're gonna have is basically it's
like a a glance post or a little rolled in
like a It's kind of a lazy end route, if
you will.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 5: So what we're doing here in cover two, we're holding
the mic linebacker, we're holding the wheel linebacker and hitting
a little lazy post glance post ride over the top
of that, and it works a perfection great call. There's
not a lot of beaters for other like if they
ran quarters right here, I don't know where you're going
with the ball, but they got this a perfect Cover
two beater. I've actually never seen this concept, but look.
Speaker 1: Works out to perfection. I don't love this chip down here,
but you know it is what it is.
Speaker 4: You can tell that they're they're they're they're really they're
so worried about protection. And when you when you have
a receiver at the bottom of the formation thinking about
chipping an edge rusher, that lets you know just what
they think they can't.
Speaker 1: Do and protection.
Speaker 5: And I want to show you the second awesome part
on this play that I saw what has l Is shues,
guards and tackles struggled with all season long. Was playing
was blocking up the games, the ets where the where
the defensive lineman crosses, where the defensive tackle goes and
hits the hits. Our left tackle and the defensive end
loops underneath. But I want you to watch our left
guard and our right and our left tackle right here.
Boom passed it off. We've been wanting to see this
all season long, and wait, haven't How many times have
we seen this defensive end loop underneath and the guard
not get back to them and create issues?
Speaker 1: Perfect blocked up? Amazing, that's awesome job.
Speaker 5: They've been working on it and been working on it,
and it's perfectly executed here on a big play when
you're down.
Speaker 1: Good execution. I like to see his foot work a
little bit better.
Speaker 5: He's still like he's shuffle shuffle, his feet aren't matching up.
Speaker 4: I don't think you're gonna like college quarterbacks footwork no
matter what tape you want.
Speaker 1: It's just it's not anything that we ever learned. All right,
we got to get back to react.
Speaker 4: By the way, that's that's a portion of the field
that LSU had like crime scene tape over for a
large portion of the year, almost like they thought they
would get arrested if they completed a pass in that
portion of the field. So it's so good to see
them attack that portion. And you could tell Arkansas was like, oh,
they're not gonna throw it there. Yeah, like they're not
gonna tack them, They're not gonna ta no, so we
can just like actually cover from the hash to out
of bounds, which in college.
Speaker 1: Is not that much.
Speaker 5: It's not that much room anyways. So they and it
was perfectly executed. So let's go down another play. Now,
this is this is gonna you're gonna think I'm like
highlighting the left tackle here because he does get beat
give up a bad sack. But I just want to
watch a couple of things again. We're in a nasty
split down here, and he's not chipping this defensive end.
Speaker 1: He's just gonna bluff them like he is.
Speaker 5: Uh, but I want you to watch so in trying
to protect the quarterback with this nasty split from a
wide receiver. Okay, we just showed it on the last
play where he's chipping the the a edge rusher, whether
it's a defensive end or a backer on the ball
right here. This is basically it might be a backround
the ball right here, but he's bluffing him. But he's
there to help protection out. But what he does is
ends up messing up the entire route concept because we're
gonna have a deep post right here. We are going
to have we're gonna call it like an indie. We
call it pin indy. And every everyone runs this rail
where he comes over the middle and then he bursts
backed outside almost to like the corner area. Then the
backside guy is going to run a deep end cut
and so the read goes it's a top down read. Uh,
so you read the read the deep post, then to
the indie, which is Aaron Anderson back to the backside
dig route. So what happens in trying to protect the
quarterback you get two guys right next to each other
because there there's not Now Aaron Anderson gets pushed inside
a little bit too much.
Speaker 1: But it's okay.
Speaker 5: Now this ball if the left tackle should go to
the post. Now Van Buren's footwork is not good enough.
He's not His footwork's too fast here that he wouldn't
ever see the post or get to it. Left tackle
of course misses him. But this should be this should
be a dig route.
Speaker 1: Throw right here.
Speaker 5: They just get too close and trying to protect the quarterback.
They kind of screw up the route combination because you
never want two guys next to each other.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Of course, you got to make the block and everything,
but a couple of things improve. I don't love the
nasty split by the receiver. I don't love Van Buren's footwork.
Speaker 1: Of course. I don't like the block by the left tackle.
He whiffed. I got it.
Speaker 5: That's not really the point of highlighting this play he did,
I mean didn't get a hand on him.
Speaker 1: Yep. Anyho come back to reality a little bit, yep.
Speaker 5: But anyway, all these plays I'm showing, every single pass
play almost there's some sort of extra protection for the quarterback,
which is warranted a lot, but then at some points
it kind of screws everything else up a little bit.
So just a little education for you, a little bit
of the why why things happen.
Speaker 4: Yes, some of the some of the route combinations, stuff
like from from like day one of whoever the new
offensive coordinator is yep, Like that's gonna get I would
assume that's gonna get cleaned up, because you gotta you
gotta unravel some stuff the foundational principles, Like I've there's
route concepts we've run that I've never really seen.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's And so it's hard for me to go all
in on the paint on the quarterbacks and receivers right
now because when I turn on the tape, I'm like,
I don't know what they're trying to get done.
Speaker 1: And that's me saying that.
Speaker 4: And I understand route concepts pretty well and what and
what are coverage beaters? The man sitting to my left
knows him better than anybody I've ever been around. And
if if I don't notice them, okay, that's a problem.
If he doesn't notice them, that's.
Speaker 1: A real issue.
Speaker 4: And so it's hard for me to really, like I said,
just go all in because I'm like that there there
has to be a rhyme and a reason for a
route combination, like and it's got to have different layers
to it, and it's got to be on different levels,
like even our flag football teams that we coach.
Speaker 1: I'll get everybody to run their route and.
Speaker 4: I'm like stop and I'll show, Okay, we got discovered
that cover, discovered that car, we got all quadrants like
are covered.
Speaker 1: There's somebody in each window.
Speaker 4: Because you try to say, hey, whatever coverage you run,
one of these routes is going to be a situation
where I feel like we can win. I don't see that.
I see guys in the same area. I see inside
releases on routes. You're never supposed to have an inside release,
and so that jumbles things up as well.
Speaker 1: I see the som So.
Speaker 5: I've already highlighted that our wide receiver room is one
of the bright spots of this team because of a
lot of the gritty work that they've they're doing in
the trenches and in the blocking scheme and the effort
that they're showing. It has been fantastic to see that
progression throughout the year, when in a year where the
receivers aren't getting the stats they want, the touches they want,
the tds they want, they're not getting all that stuff,
but they're still playing hard and doing the things that
they're being asked to do to try to win the game.
In the running game and blocking out with screens and
things like that, and you don't see anybody. You don't
see any bad body language in this receiver room, which
is awesome to see because of all the receiver of
all the position groups, usually it's the wide receivers that get.
Speaker 1: The bad body language and want the ball. Oh yeah,
they look like eleven j.
Speaker 4: Cutler's out there sometimes when things aren't going the way
that position.
Speaker 5: And that's the kind of like the alpha mentality you
want in a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Same with the dB.
Speaker 5: But to Jake's point, when they're running routes and they're
running route concepts, sometimes there doesn't seem to be I
can't decipher what are route concepts trying to get accomplished.
And then sometimes they're running routes that it's just like
Cardinal sen mistakes that they're making. Like you said, inside
release on a corner route. Yeah, inside release from the
outside when you're supposed to run a fade route and
it's cover two, they're inside releasing and bringing the cloud
defender into the slot.
Speaker 1: Guy, Like I've seen these things.
Speaker 5: I just showed you an in route at the commercial
bike like a deep en route where the guy's running
like he's running it on paper, but he's not pressing.
He's not closing the distance between him and the dB.
To make that guy may have to panic and make
him make a decision. So he's getting he's just sitting
on it and covering up. Like there's little things that
could help this wide receiver crew improve so much from
just getting open because a lot of times we're running
these concepts and I'm like, I don't understand the point
of the concept, and I don't know where I would
go with the ball. If I was a quarterback, usually
the answer is I'll hit a check down. But our
checkdowns are chipping right now, and they're late getting out
into their zones. And sometimes they're so late getting out
in their zones they're stacking over the top of a
receiver that's an outlet, and you're let they're letting one defender.
Speaker 1: Cover two people.
Speaker 5: Now, I say that like the coaching staff that is
there right this second. They are working with a foundational Yeah,
for sure, an offense that foundational is flawed. Yes, So
there's only so much you can do. So and what's
one thing you're gonna do when we just saw Kurn
get whiffed, right, Yep, you got to protect them and
they're trying to protect them, and I applaud that and
I and I agree with all that, but I just
you have to there's a balance there that sometimes when
you feel like you're protecting the quarterback, you're actually not
protecting the quarterback because you're not giving him any options.
Speaker 4: It's going back to the old seven man protection when
you're struggling. Actually, seven man protection invites more problems than
it does solution.
Speaker 5: So what they're doing is not what they're what they're
being asked to do right now, That from a coaching standpoint,
is not easy, not at all. Create this game planning great,
let's protect them, but not protective.
Speaker 4: But because you got to use the foundations that were
putting the place by you know, Joe Sloan and that
you know he was the OC right, So when you
take over an interim basis, like you can't just install
your own terminology, your own verbiage and things you haven't
done just in a bye week.
Speaker 1: You got to try to make the best of it.
Speaker 4: And you know there's plays in the game that we
could point to that you're trying to you that, Like
you had the one drive where it's like who's going
to throw the pass? Those things were cool. It's like, hey,
Juwan Johnson was an All state quarterback. He's thrown for
more yards I think than anybody Taylor's That is that correct.
Didn't you break all the angel records?
Speaker 1: Right? So hey, if he's gonna play running back, how
well about you let him throw a pass or two.
That'd be a nice change of pace.
Speaker 4: Well he did, right, And so like those are things
that you can install moving forward. But as far as
the foundation pieces, it is what it is. For the
most part. You just got to try to make the
best of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you do.
Speaker 5: And I like, like I just said, it's what they're
being asked to do right now, is not It's certainly
not easy because if if there weren't protection issues, one
on one pass protection issues all season, then of course
you don't get those chips and those stumps that were
talking about. Now, it's a good change up to have.
I just don't think you can be relying on it.
And I watched this film from this past weekend. It's
like every play, every play, And again I'm not saying
I would have done anything different, I would, you know,
It's it's it's tough going into the game because I'm
sure in practice, like you get the thump and the
guy gets out into the right spot, you know what
I mean, and the timing doesn't look too bad. But yeah, anyway, overall, typically.
Speaker 4: For what you're saying though, like if you do what
they're doing as far as making sure you're helping, it's
because you're going against a von Miller and you're like,
von Miller is not going to beat us this week.
We're gonna make sure wherever von Miller is, then we
have presence, like we either chip or we give body
presents and then we get like typically you'll do that
for like an elite edge rusher, we gotta affect him.
He can't be like Arkansas doesn't really have that. Like again,
they were playing their mic backer on the edge because
they felt like they had an advantage and he's the
one that got the sack there, so I understand it.
But typically, like you only have that point of emphasis
as much as they did when you have an elite.
Speaker 5: Rusher And what did what were you taught when you
were a chipper? I know what we taught was basically,
if you see color, you chip yes. Now if the
defensive end or linebacker on the rest, if he rushes
head up or inside you, you get out on your route.
If basically was like if you if there's meat there,
hit it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And every every tackle, every tackle liked it a little
bit different, So you had to make sure you had
that conversation. Marcus McNeil, who a lot of y'all remember
he played at Auburn, was an incredible player. He's like, dude,
give presence, but don't touch my guy. Give presence, but
do not touch him. Don't knock me off my block.
I had Jeremy Cleary, who was our right tackle.
Speaker 1: He played a k State.
Speaker 4: He was like, oh my god, please help all right,
anytime you can hit him, please do it, Like he
wanted a hand on him.
Speaker 1: So you had to.
Speaker 4: Remember like your tackles and what their preference was, because
like they had their way of doing things, and so
they wanted to make sure that you were on the
same page.
Speaker 5: And a lot of times it's like I don't want
you to push him in unless it's.
Speaker 1: At the at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5: Like a lot of times they didn't want to run
him back from like if they'd already set and aid
contact with the defensive end Russian, they didn't want to
running back coming in and pushing them in. Yeah, because
they'd already said there. Yeah, they'd want to hit them
go straight forward. So basically it was like if you
see a rib, break it, if you see if you
see an armpit, take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: That was basically like the coaching strategy. But if you didn't,
you're out on your route concert. You're not trying to
look for work. If it's there, take it.
Speaker 4: And if you want to see the goats at running
back chips, go watch Joseph Dai film and that will
give you everything that you need to know. All right,
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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, all right.
Speaker 4: One of things we haven't really talked about in you know,
sometimes us as offensive players, maybe we start to watch
the offense first before we get to the defense. But
the job that this defense did for LSU against Arkansas
after the first drive, and look the first drive a
lot of times it's like a prize fight, right, you're
just kind of taking their job a little bit. You're
trying to figure out, Okay, how hard does this got punch? Okay,
all right, cool, I gotta figure it out. Now, let
me make my adjustments. And again, Arkansas bad football team.
Arkansas offense really good, one of the best statistically in
the country, certainly one of the best in the Southeastern Conference.
And Blake Baker in this defense, they hold Arkansas to
fifteen points because obviously the block punt touchdown was the
other seven.
Speaker 5: So Patrino's really good coach, right, really good offensive coach.
He put on a master class of the first fifteen,
an absolutely master class. Like it was dynamic, it was
it had purpose to it. It was look over here,
I go over here, let's power it here like they
it was an absolute master class of first fifteen. But
once they got past that first fifteen, of course, we
you know, LSU kind of lucked out on a fumble
too when they pitched it. We got a fumbled in
that first fifteen, so it kind of got them out
of rhythm right there. But man, I was I was
watching that game. I think I texted y'all too. I
was like, oh my god, this first fifteen script for
Petrino was incredible. Yeah, so that was one of the reasons.
But once they got kind of past that scripted portion
of the game, like Baker in the crew, they kind
of settled into it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely performance of the year certainly.
Speaker 4: I thought it was multiple guys that did a lot
of things, and Harrold Perkins Junior was, you know, we
kind of joked about it, like Arkansas hates to see
that guy coming. They should because I mean, he has
played well against him really his entire career. I mean
even going back to when he was a young player.
He kind of won the game by himself. They heard
four sacks and they heard him as Yeah, somebody along
the way certainly did. And so for Lshu's defense to
hold that offense to fifteen points, that is an incredible
date at the office.
Speaker 1: And it's not like you went out there and.
Speaker 4: You know, did anything that you haven't really done all
season long, Like you didn't have these crazy exotic looks,
like you ran your defense, and so it was their
best against your best and you just had the better day,
Like you made the plays. Harold Perkins had a great
interception right there was the fumble, and that's a self
inflicted mom but you get that, you take that, you
take advantage, and you you know, have them inside the
ten yard line multiple times where they don't come away
with point points. And to go after one on one
against montsour Delaine, that's a choice, certainly a choice. That's
like they tried. They just watched that film too. Yeah,
they lined it up to go against him. It was
almost like they were just going to go left. Regardless,
I'm probably not gonna go against the guy that's gonna
be in the conversation and win the thorpe. I'm probably
not going to try to single coverage him and make
a play a back shoulder fade against that guy because
he saw a company. He's like, uh, yeah, I'll take this,
thank you, yep, like you're really testing me.
Speaker 5: It was a great play because they singled him up
and and Monsour played outside shoulder yep, and so it
made him on this It made him try to inside
release a fade route because he didn't want to press
a dB that was outside shoulder on him. And he
had the confidence enough to whear if he was running
inside inside running route that he could still trail him
and make the play like yeah, he expected the fade
come and made the guy go inside with you. You
never want to go inside on a on a fade
route in the red zone and he kind of gave
up on the bar. A great play, I mean, yeah,
it's a it's certainly a choice to attack.
Speaker 1: Him one on one.
Speaker 5: But the classic like Petrino old school coach, like we're
gonna run, We're gonna run our offense. Who they got
out there. We're gonna run our offense. We're gonna set
it up all right. Yeah, we're to the boundary. Absolutely,
this is what we do. We're on the if we
were on the right, hash we do it to the
other side, run the left ash classic interception. Oh how
about Like I thought one of the play of the
games was the quarterback sneak stop. Oh yeah, well, who
was it? I thought Gillery kind of he headlocked him.
It was like the way, let's that's how you stop
a push push, Yeah, that's how you stop a quarterback snake.
Just come over the top, yeah and hit and put
him in a headlock. Yeah, that was fantastic. I thought
that was one of the plays of the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: And you never see a defensive tackle from a tackle
position going. You see the linebackers sometimes come over the top,
sot to scrape over the top and do that, but
for a big boy to do it.
Speaker 1: Cob and Gillileries certainly had his best year to date
in an LSU uniform. I thought he played fantastic.
Speaker 4: The job that Kyle Williams has done with what he's
been given in the interior of the defensive line. Remember
he's not the entire D line. He's just the interior,
so he's the defensive tackles. And really, you know, I
would say with what Blake wants to get done to
what Bo Didley was recruiting, that typically don't match up,
like Bo Davis wanted bigger space eaters, and I think
you need something a little bit different, and so you
go get a good and out of the transfer portal
who's played well, but Jacovin Gillery's by far played his
best football in an Elisi uniform this year. I think
Kyle's doing a hell of a job with that unit.
And you know, my hope is that Kyle's right back
here next year. Regardless of who the coach is. You've
got some dogs coming in this recruiting class at that
position that are way more the body type that they're
looking for.
Speaker 1: And I don't know who the coach are going to be.
None of us know.
Speaker 4: But when you look at this defensive staff, the improvement
that they've made, and you just saw like a game
plan against a running quarterback that looks like it was
a little bit different, and you kind of wonder, okay, well,
you know, what were some of the limitations there Prior
to that, and so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know who the coach is going to be.
Speaker 5: There would certainly be an indictment if they didn't look
strong and hard at keeping a good handful of the
defensive coaching staff together. And I think it would start
with Kyle Williams, Court Raymond, Blake Baker. I don't want
to not single out everybody else, but those are the
ones that come to the top of my head. Certainly,
Jay Golsen's done a great job with the safeties.
Speaker 4: We talked about Tomarcus Cooley, we talked about Aj Hawsey, right,
Jake Golsen's a safety coach, big right. So I think
the defensive staff had a great game plan against a
really good, talented offense and like Matt said, a great
play caller as well.
Speaker 1: By Petrino's a lot of things, some good on a
great motorcycle, some bad. Right.
Speaker 4: One thing he can do is call an offensive ball
game and room fifteen points. A guy that had been
running around on everybody didn't run around on LSU out there.
You know, he had one draw play I thought was
a really great performance and a good game plan. We
even saw the return of the old Maryland I Blitz
that they did a year ago. Hadn't seen that and
they did it, and so yeah, it's a little bit
of everything in this one.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 5: So what did we say, three turnovers, go on stand,
miss field goal, missfield goal, and win by one.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 4: But you get a dumb Tiger, get a dumb and
by the way, last thing on the defense before we
take a break. You've done this without your best overall
player in what weeks in the middle of your defense,
and you've.
Speaker 1: Had some guys fill in.
Speaker 4: You've had some guys fill in the athletic ability of
what you had to what you have now not on
the same page obviously, and so they've had to try
to play without their best player in the middle of
the defense and it's been a bright spot for a
year that has not been great.
Speaker 5: Well, let's also give some credit where credit is due
here overall best player on defense. I don't know if
Witt is the best player on defense any like at
this point with way Monster and aj are playing, that's true, Yeah,
the heart and soul of the defense. But Monsour, I mean,
he's my god. He's played himself into a high high
high first round.
Speaker 1: He was a third team All ACC guys, So a
good player, are you serious? Is third team ACC? Right?
Speaker 4: So like he was a he was a good player,
But what Corey Raymond and this staff have unlocked in him,
like the full like what I mean, just a great
example they can use now in the transfer portal.
Speaker 1: Hey, you were third team all ACC. You came here.
Now you're going to be a top twenty draft choice.
Speaker 4: Right, even an older player, you can sell development with
this defensive staff. So look, it's my hope that whoever
the next head coach is looks at that says, hey,
let's let's keep some continuity here because remember last time,
like when BK came in, like everything hit reset, everything
started like everybody in the building, not just on the staff,
and so familiar faces guys that recruits know, guys that
the current players obviously have a great relationship with as well.
And I mean even things like maybe a wit Weeks
comes back, if Blake Baker in this staff or back.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you sure hope you don't get in the
situation we just we just went through a situation where
a coach came in and said, no, I don't care
about what's been I'm gonna do it. But my way,
you would think that you'd like to have a coach
that comes with a mentality like, let's what what is work?
There's something that's working that's really great. Here, let's maintain
the things that work and change the things that don't.
Speaker 4: A couple of things inside the chat here by four chat.
How about Petrino's field toss dive. Yeah, you don't come
to L s U and try to toss on us.
Speaker 1: That's our play.
Speaker 4: If anybody is going to ever toss dive, it's L
s U or at least that's.
Speaker 1: The way that it used to be. Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, completely disagree with sweet g L s U. Please
don't say weeks our best player guy will play teams
at the next.
Speaker 1: Level at best. Come on, Oh really tell me more.
That's that's just not factual. I'm looking.
Speaker 4: You can argue best player because like Delane and Halsey
have been playing incredible, like Matt said, like certainly the
heart and soul. Uh to say he's a team's player
at the next level, that's just completely false.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play.
Speaker 5: Well, everybody is a team's player, play like at the
next level, a.
Speaker 1: Special team specialist.
Speaker 4: No, now that's now the guy's athletic, quick to the punch,
great rushing the passer as well, good in coverage. Yeah,
that's that's just completely false, And it's fine. It's your opinion,
but I'm just telling.
Speaker 5: You, and it's okay to say he's not the best
player on the defense.
Speaker 1: Yes, and AJ Halsey too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had too many scouts ask me about what
weeks to think that he's just a team's player.
Speaker 1: Good there, but it'd be great if he could come back.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that. Hey, you want to play with that.
Your brother got a lot of things. Hey, n I
l is going to be great for what weeks saying.
Speaker 5: Somebody's also asking does halse have the speed to play
at the next level. There's a place in the NFL.
Speaker 1: For Oh think about like your favorite position star.
Speaker 4: But there's some there's some NFL teams that love to
run the star like a true star position, like a
kind of a they don't cause they don't call it star,
but it's kind of like a backer safety mix, like
the Broncos. That's one of their key positions. Oh yeah,
Halsey will play Hawsey will definitely play.
Speaker 1: That Cam Chanceller played. I was in Seattle.
Speaker 5: You know position you played safety safety safety there you
go on the Star. They just called him a safety rover.
Wait what did Alabama I call this?
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, wolf they had a wolf position, they had
another was wolf and something else.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can't wolfe him. I'll have to
figure it out.
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Speaker 1: Trying to get a little bit down in the low.
Speaker 3: Key Tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.
Speaker 4: All right, Uh, I don't want to bleep that out.
It's always a great time to go for dose. It
was a tailgating weekend and so it was good to see. Uh,
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Speaker 1: Was it getting better at my sound effects? I'm here worse.
Speaker 5: Solid. It's pretty solid. It's probably the same same guy forty.
I'm not gonna improve in my sound.
Speaker 1: Effects started out strong.
Speaker 5: Actually, no, you can always improve content and never any
self improvement is the way I live my life.
Speaker 1: That's wrong. What's so funny with me? Laughing? Nose? Taylor?
Speaker 4: You know what, Arkansas probably disappointed that they didn't get
the victory in Tiger Stadium. They didn't get to load
up the old Golden boot and drive it back up
to Fable Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Do you think it would have set first class? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they have that in a different spot than
we do. I promise you that, I promise you.
Speaker 1: Got it under the plane.
Speaker 4: They got it in first they got it in first
class with a seat belt onlot. It might it just
might be so as bad as their feeling after a
one point loss. You know who feels worse? South Carolina?
Oh my gosh. Why Because they were up thirty to
three going into halftime and Shane Beemer was hyping up
the crowd there at cayle Field as they went into
the locker room, and you.
Speaker 5: Would normally think, what was the record going into that game?
It was really bad record?
Speaker 1: I think it was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you would think that like going into the
number three team in the country, going onto their home
field and losing by one point, you would think normally
that wouldn't be a fireable offense.
Speaker 1: But it was a fireable offense.
Speaker 2: Shaneamer put on a masterclass a big lead, way too conservative.
Speaker 5: So what was the staff that was that they showed
on television? I got it pulled up here.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: Teams in the SEC and SEC play since two thousand
and four, teams are oh and two hundred and eighty six.
Why when trailing by twenty seven plus points, zero wins
two hundred and eighty six losses in SEC play when
trailing about twenty seven plus points, that that means they
don't win very often.
Speaker 1: But they won.
Speaker 5: That game. And so you can say all you want
about like the heart of the Champion, which is wildly impressive,
what A and M did like to be able to
overcome that. Let's give them all of the flowers, because
they deserve all the flowers.
Speaker 1: They played awful.
Speaker 5: Marcel played terrible early on, They played out, they were
trying to do things that they don't normally try to do.
In South Carolina played their best half of football and
so give them all their flowers, but my god, they're
a team cannot just go and win it down by
twenty seven and one half.
Speaker 1: The other team has to absolutely lose it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah they should feel great about it, but
it is an absolutely fireable offense to lose a game
went up at thirty.
Speaker 4: To three at half time. Yeah, terrible, Like, yeah, you
got to find a way. You got to you got it.
Now you're three and seven. You got to run the football.
You got like you gotta running quarterback like you gotta.
You gotta start from the very get go. Hey, we're
gonna control this clock, and this is just how we're
going to play this game.
Speaker 1: You can't lose that game, dude. I gotta know.
Speaker 4: Shane Beamer's buy out is is a big one, certainly
for South Carolina, and I love I love Shane. Shane's
always been great to me, his greats, come on the
afternoon show with me, great dude, and he's had some
good moments last year. Last year they were on some
playoff team.
Speaker 1: Man, when you.
Speaker 4: Lose a thirty to three lead like that and then
the objects of you going into halftime and pumping up
the opposing crowd it's just a tough look to.
Speaker 1: Come back from it.
Speaker 5: It's a tough look. And like I yeah, and just
like you, I really like him. I heard him. He
was the biggest takeaway from me from SEC media days,
just being impressive, just talking and hearing his confidence and
hearing the way he spoke, and I was like, man,
that's a guy I could play for for sure. Like that,
that guy, that guy gets it. He's good. H the
way he speaks is great. But after that game, I
was like, oh, yeah, I'll be doing a eulogy Monday.
That's how That's how strongly I felt about it. You
just can't it can't happen. But you know what the
benefactors is a know, good for you all. You get
to stay number three in the country. Yeah now for now, Yeah,
that's it's coming.
Speaker 1: It's coming. I don't think so. They're still pretty good.
They just played really bad. It's it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: Everybody runs a stinker, like you always as good teams,
you always want that, like there's a get right game
every year, Like it's it's the rude awakening, like we
had that game. That's that learning moment, and you always
hope that you just come out on top of that
game and it doesn't ruin your season. Well, was that
A and M's Was that A and M's game that
they were like, all right, that's the bring us back
to reality, humblest little bit. Let's learn from this. We're
still really good. Usually think that we wanted that type
of game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they looked at Arkansas team put forty two
on them, three and overtime.
Speaker 1: Well, Arkansas is a great team. She was just really great.
That's what that's what it must be.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, you're not doing a eulogy there for
Shane this our first week while. But no, Actually, when
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Speaker 4: Certainly somebody we've enjoyed working with for a long time. Well,
somebody's not gonna be working for the Pelicans anymore, speaking
of working with green head coach, he gone fired.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, this is this is overdue. Obviously.
Speaker 4: The Pelicans have played thirteen games this year, and they've
already had two different losing streaks, one of five games
and one of six games. That's right, thirteen games played.
They've already had two different losing streaks. Won five games,
won six games, and only thirteen games played. Had to happen,
just had to should have happened, probably a long time ago.
I'm not saying you're the most talented team in the world,
but you've got too much talent to play as bad
as you are. I mean, you're two and eleven, two
and eleven already on this year, and you look, you've
got some exciting rook rookies I mean, Fears and Queen
are good rookies, like they've got some promise to them.
And you add that with Trey Murphy and Herb Jones
and some of the other pieces. You have Zion Zion,
and you can never count on when he's going to
be on the court. But I'm not saying you should
be the best team in the NBA, but any means
but you had too much talent on the roster to
play as poorly as you were.
Speaker 1: Taylor, that's an interesting choice. He's getting his tears wiped. Guys,
why is he crying? I don't know. I just thought
it was I can't remember a moment where Willy Green
should have that kind of emotion. What's that movie with
Will Ferrell when they hugged all strange? That step brother
like that before?
Speaker 5: Looks like that scene, huh fun.
Speaker 1: Can y'all think of a moment where Willy Green should
have had a tear wipe from his y? No, they
didn't have any playoff series.
Speaker 2: Zion went down again something Well, No, I mean there's
ever any emotion that he knows too well to be
upset about and be that?
Speaker 1: Is there too much crying in sports? Yes? Question needs
to be asked. I feel like, have you ever cried
when or lose? No, not on the field at least, no,
are you That's probably more appropriate.
Speaker 4: It was what you said you did in the locker
round you for beating the Cowboys. Maybe happy tears?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was an emotional ride for me.
I'd got cut by the Raider, has been traded from Seattle,
came back and beat the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Which seemed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, good emotional on That's what I'm saying, Yeah,
But feel the question is to be asked, is there.
Speaker 1: Are too much crying? It's sports right now. I get it.
Speaker 5: You gotta be in touch with your emotional self. You're
innerview things are people want people to be passionate. But
I'm just asking questions. I'm not saying that there is
no there's.
Speaker 4: Just a lot.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of it. Yeah, No,
I don't. I can't think of a I can't think
of a scenario where.
Speaker 5: Right, like I still think about to this day, t
Boat crying on the field after after the regular season loss,
a regular season loss, and like it was emotional for
him and I get that that's that's great, Like it
was so uncommon that that still sticks out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, a crab when he gave the speech like
no team in America is going to play as hard.
Speaker 1: As we already that speech is memorialized.
Speaker 4: It is is it a plaque or is it as
the ground.
Speaker 1: On the ground? Yeah, I think I was like on
the side of the building. Now you don't walk on that.
Speaker 4: That was on the side of the building as you
walk into like the football facility.
Speaker 5: That's that's you don't walk on that speech. Yeah, selfies
by that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, cool. Is the Pelican season already classic? It's
on the side of the building. It's over, mid it's over.
It really was ever before it started. But like again
it's not the most talented roster. But they shouldn't be
as bad as they are. That's fair enough.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, you got too much talent again, like you
should be like at least in the conversation of playoff,
like what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody's on the side of.
Speaker 4: The building, if not to play off the play in, yeah,
playing something something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the promise? What is that this basic red brick
It looks like it's like a building font. Is that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the most basic font you can find
the Microsoft word A jester white.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a white sign like that. Yeah, why
is it not orange and blue? It feels like something
at least make it like more metallic. Behind it would
have Maine. It looks like it's like behind the corner
of a building. Is this thing hidden? They still grab
newspapers too, out of newspaper bens. I don't know. All right,
we got a lot coming in our number three.
Speaker 4: We got weekend winters, we got Devin Snow, we got
a eulogy for a fallen brother.
Speaker 1: We have all that coming your way. Now, number three
off the bench.