Speaker 1: The post Christmas episode, everybody is feeling well, and I mean, Landa,
Speaker 1: do you feel are you fat and out of hope
Speaker 1: right now? Is that the post Christmas vibe in the
Speaker 1: Field's house.
Speaker 2: A little bit fat? Would it surprise you to know
Speaker 2: that I ran two miles on Christmas morning?
Speaker 1: Wow? That is that is wild? That's not that I
Speaker 1: didn't not that it stuns me because of who you are.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've only recently become a running type. Two miles.
Speaker 2: It's the longest I've ever run. It felt bad in
Speaker 2: the moment and good afterward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I would think so and bad in the
Speaker 1: moment and good afterwards. I mean I set a goal
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this year where I wanted to
Speaker 1: walk ten thousand steps every single day.
Speaker 2: I remember you talking about this. You told me about
Speaker 2: that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and still still hanging in there with five days
Speaker 1: left in twenty twenty four. It really like, it's not
Speaker 1: that hard to get ten thousand steps. Do you have
Speaker 1: to like have one hour worth of walking without stopping
Speaker 1: and that's like seventy percent of it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, ten thousand steps wouldn't that sounds like a lot,
Speaker 2: But it actually isn't that much if you're trying. It's
Speaker 2: kind of the same with running, Like if you actually
Speaker 2: try to run, you can you can get to pretty
Speaker 2: decent numbers pretty fast. Like I'm not very good at all,
Speaker 2: but I was only running like a mile a month ago.
Speaker 2: I'm already up to two so well.
Speaker 1: Considering that you have been on load management recently, I'm
Speaker 1: glad to see that you're still staying in shape off
Speaker 1: the court, because after missing the last show, we're now
Speaker 1: giving Cam the the lebron Hey, you've done thirteen shows
Speaker 1: out of thirteen possible episodes. Go ahead and take a
Speaker 1: night off. Cam's due for a day off, right, Let
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves cook. That's is Cam the Austin Reeves of
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 2: Ooh, maybe I feel like he might be someone a
Speaker 2: little more feisty than Austin Reeves.
Speaker 1: I get to be JJ Reddick. I was good at
Speaker 1: one point, and I have a tattoo sleeve and that's
Speaker 1: it's and I'm a white dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels right.
Speaker 1: I don't know which Laker you are. I don't watch
Speaker 1: enough NBA basketball to be good at that.
Speaker 2: I just watched the Lakers beat my Warriors. On Christmas.
Speaker 2: That was great.
Speaker 1: That the year Warriors beginning twenty Alexa, what year do
Speaker 1: they win the first title?
Speaker 2: Alexa, go back in time and note that I started
Speaker 2: rooting for them before they won.
Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, I do remember that you've held on
Speaker 1: to the Dubs for a while and then they've won
Speaker 1: about as much as the Chiefs, who we have some
Speaker 1: Chiefs ask GARCBS that the Chiefs aren't even really that
Speaker 1: interesting at this point from a it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: they do, the end result is always the same as
Speaker 1: weird as that is to say, kind of like the
Speaker 1: Jayhawks used to be in Big Twelve play. We don't
Speaker 1: even have a game to recap. We're just gonna kind
Speaker 1: of talk about a non conference late that's already over
Speaker 1: after just eleven games, because Lord, your Mark has decided
Speaker 1: that Big twelve seasons will now go on for eternity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all the games will be very good, we promise.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all the teams are very good. You and
Speaker 1: I were talking before we started the show. And there
Speaker 1: are eight Big twelve matchups coming up on Monday and Tuesday.
Speaker 1: The first sixteen teams, so that leaves eight matchups in
Speaker 1: opening week of Big twelve play and there is only
Speaker 1: one matchup being Kansas and West Virginia, where both teams
Speaker 1: were in this conference three years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absurd, that is absurd, But Ryan, have you
Speaker 2: considered that at different points in this year we will
Speaker 2: get epic matchups such as TCU Central Florida, Utah Arizona
Speaker 2: State this time in the twelve play at Arizona versus
Speaker 2: byun Oh. Sure.
Speaker 1: The best part is how like four Big twelve matchups
Speaker 1: have already happened in preseason tournaments that were set before
Speaker 1: Big Twelve play started. If Iowa State and Colorado play
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve tournament, that will be the fourth
Speaker 1: time this year that they play. We all know who
Speaker 1: doesn't want for Iowa State Colorado basketball games in one season.
Speaker 2: Not Colorado.
Speaker 1: But the way the first one went, Yeah, the first
Speaker 1: game didn't go too well for Colorado, and we'll see
Speaker 1: how that goes. Kansas has a ten o'clock tip at
Speaker 1: Colorado here coming up down the shoot in a few weeks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, we'll be there. We're all not like
Speaker 1: they're in the in the arena, but well, I guess
Speaker 1: we could. I hear Colorado in February is very Ryan's
Speaker 1: Up Ryan's Alley. From a weather perspective, yeah, one hundred
Speaker 1: percent warmer than here. You'd probably love it. You could
Speaker 1: probably rock a T shirt and shorts in the twenty
Speaker 1: three degree winter afternoons out there.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to adultify my wardrobe. I'm more in
Speaker 2: a crew neck phase. I like jeans a lot more
Speaker 2: puilled out, a lot more hoodies lately.
Speaker 1: It's nice adultifying. Adultifying your wardrobe is not a quote
Speaker 1: I'd ever thought i'd hear you say, because I still
Speaker 1: associate you whenever we were in high school wearing rock
Speaker 1: Chalk blog shirts and a Jay flat flat bills. That's
Speaker 1: that's what I will always think of you wearing. And
Speaker 1: then overnight you turned into a hippie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean eventually, I do. Hope girls give me
Speaker 2: the time of day, So I thought it was better
Speaker 2: wardrobe my help in that department.
Speaker 1: You're telling me that being on the inside of the
Speaker 1: Paint podcast for now eight seasons? Is it eight or
Speaker 1: is it seven?
Speaker 2: A I think it's eight eight.
Speaker 1: You're telling me that that doesn't do enough for the
Speaker 1: ladies where you also don't have to change your style.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I did think senior high school land
Speaker 2: and did think that being on aku basketball podcast with
Speaker 2: profane drops was going to get him women eventually. That
Speaker 2: is the target demo of this show, believed in correct,
Speaker 2: is my age women. But the last I didn't work
Speaker 2: as well as I was hoping, So we're trying a
Speaker 2: different strategy that's more recommended.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some are saying it was a very.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a very sad, sad loss.
Speaker 1: But hey, eight years has gotten you plenty of other
Speaker 1: things that have happened as a result of this podcast,
Speaker 1: like a little bit more gray hair and a little
Speaker 1: bit less patience for nonsense. You've answered a lot of me.
Speaker 2: One mercyb in the JCCC hallways recognizing who I was.
Speaker 1: That's crazy because that I've never I've never been recognized
Speaker 1: for anything IP related. But both you and Nick have,
Speaker 1: which is which is hilarious. Yeah, we're gonna and we're
Speaker 1: we're we've committed to each other off the off air,
Speaker 1: which I'll now tell everybody for the first time, We
Speaker 1: committed to do this podcast until Kansas eventually wins back
Speaker 1: to back titles at some point, so we're here for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 2: Well, it'll be tough to do that podcast through World
Speaker 2: War three and four, but we will be there for you.
Speaker 1: This is the Inside the Paint podcast on Rock Chalk Blog.
Speaker 1: Two man show.
Speaker 2: Today I am Ryan am Landenfields.
Speaker 1: So today's gonna look different because we don't have a
Speaker 1: game to recap, and for I believe the first time
Speaker 1: that I've ever done an in season podcast, we just
Speaker 1: went like a full week of college basketball where there
Speaker 1: were no other noteworthy other matchups at all. Sometimes there
Speaker 1: are still games around Christmas time, but there was nothing.
Speaker 1: There was one Top twenty five team in action all week,
Speaker 1: and the opponent that they scheduled was shameful and it
Speaker 1: should not count. So we haven't ever been in a
Speaker 1: spot where there's quite literally the first two thirds of
Speaker 1: every show's content. We have nothing today. Instead, we're going
Speaker 1: to recap the non conference season gift thoughts there do
Speaker 1: ask ARCB and then preview Big twelve play, which includes
Speaker 1: an opening preview with West Virginia coming to the Fog
Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve afternoon. What a weird start that is.
Speaker 1: You have a funky work schedule where you've had to
Speaker 1: miss a few of these games. Are you going to
Speaker 1: be able to catch a one o'clock on a Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Kansas basketball Big twelve opener.
Speaker 2: That should be doable. There's some Wednesday nights that I'm
Speaker 2: absolute polutely not gonna see, but West Virginia I'll be
Speaker 2: there for.
Speaker 1: And the Big twelve schedule is weird for Kansas because
Speaker 1: they open. This is a Big twelve schedule that opens
Speaker 1: with West Virginia, Central Florida and Arizona State and then Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Imagine being told that a few years ago, like what
Speaker 1: the one game against West Virginia which I missed the
Speaker 1: home and homes though not going to Morgantown this year.
Speaker 1: You can add one to their season win total as
Speaker 1: a result of that. And then three teams that were
Speaker 1: not in this conference, two trips around the sun that go,
Speaker 1: that's weird. The last time that somebody other than the
Speaker 1: Chiefs was the Super Bowl champion, Like half these teams
Speaker 1: weren't even in the KU's conference.
Speaker 2: That's correct, That's the new college sports. Everybody, isn't it great?
Speaker 1: Damn Brett yor Mark? All right, so I guess I'll
Speaker 1: blow the air horn and then we can talk about
Speaker 1: non con Yay, all right, get amped? Just so you
Speaker 1: know in the shows that you've missed. Cam has been
Speaker 1: insistent on doing the Mary drop. Like remember how we've
Speaker 1: gone back and forth between the air Horns and the
Speaker 1: air Horns with Mary's and all that. Cam's a stickler
Speaker 1: for the Mary one.
Speaker 2: I feel like the Mary is the more popular among
Speaker 2: other ITP co hosts. Other i TP co hosts like
Speaker 2: the Airhorn.
Speaker 1: Mary, and that originated whenever we were complaining about how
Speaker 1: only Saint Mary's exists in Gonzaga's otherwise terrible league.
Speaker 2: That is correct.
Speaker 1: Saint Mary's beat Utah though, so there's that and Santa
Speaker 1: Clara beat TCU. So the West Coast Conference lea be better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: awesome league. I'm looking at the other some of these
Speaker 1: other ITP drops, and I'm trying to think of if
Speaker 1: any of them have an interesting backstory, because this would
Speaker 1: be the first time, this would be the show to
Speaker 1: do it. Any of the things that Daniel yeah, that one,
Speaker 1: that one, well, obviously he used to very much. So
Speaker 1: Daniel did not like John Caliperry at one point. There's
Speaker 1: this one you suck ass Landed Builds, which is mean,
Speaker 1: and that's that's about three Frankenstein ish together drops because
Speaker 1: or Daniel was unhappy with landon Lucas and he said
Speaker 1: that very not nice thing about Land and Lucas, and
Speaker 1: then I showed off my podcast editor of the Year
Speaker 1: skills by replacing the last word with a different word,
Speaker 1: and therefore you get you suck.
Speaker 2: Ass Landed Builds. That's good stuff.
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty cool podcast Editor of the Year that
Speaker 1: you know that award is coming up in February.
Speaker 2: Is it a prestigious ceremony or is that like, did
Speaker 2: they just send you the mail?
Speaker 1: It's me and I've lost to Joshua Brisco about twenty
Speaker 1: years in a row at this point, because it's I'm
Speaker 1: oping this is the year. Uh you know, it's like
Speaker 1: the It's like in The Grinch, when the same person
Speaker 1: wins the decorating contest every year. It's like, eventually it's
Speaker 1: gonna be my turn. I'm going to right into the lead.
Speaker 2: You watch, it's almost like he's not paid to do
Speaker 2: it and is good at it, and we just sit
Speaker 2: on our couch and yell about I mean, Dickinson.
Speaker 1: Technically, I am paid United States currency every year. I
Speaker 1: will not say whether or not it exceeds the total
Speaker 1: of the podcast host fee that I pay the website
Speaker 1: every year, and I will say that that fee is
Speaker 1: sixty eight dollars a year. So if that goes to
Speaker 1: show how much revenue this show makes, I'll say it's
Speaker 1: either below or above that number. And of those two,
Speaker 1: if you were choosing what you'd like it to be,
Speaker 1: what would be your second choice.
Speaker 2: I was confused by the syntax of the question, but
Speaker 2: I will not. I'll take any other gig I think
Speaker 2: than what he makes in a year. This is a
Speaker 2: very sad, sad loss.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's okay because as we have gone full circle
Speaker 1: and we talked about the intro, the ITP being on
Speaker 1: ITP gets you recognized in the hallway at Johnson County
Speaker 1: College once. All right, let's level in eight years. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about non con place. So this Jayhawks season began
Speaker 1: with the team ranked as the number one team in
Speaker 1: the preseason poll, and they began by winning their first
Speaker 1: seven games, and they lost to and now they've bounced
Speaker 1: back with two wins against teams they were heavily favorede against.
Speaker 1: I feel like you've been this team's biggest critic of
Speaker 1: the three of us on the show, which I am.
Speaker 1: I am Stevie Wonder playing the piano, blind level optimist
Speaker 1: regardless of what they look like. And Cam is cam
Speaker 1: Is Brett Farve. Should I come out of retirement or
Speaker 1: should I not? One day he's like, Man, this team's
Speaker 1: gonna gonna seriously kick all the ass. And the next
Speaker 1: day he's like, this is the same crappy ass team
Speaker 1: we played last year. Bill self is watched you are
Speaker 1: kind of the level headed. This team's not very good
Speaker 1: at least that's kind of been more or less your stance.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's pretty accurate. I think that's pretty true.
Speaker 2: I do think Cam's variance, shall we say, is largely
Speaker 2: dependent on the quality of team that Kansas plays. And
Speaker 2: I think that is because the quality of team Kansas
Speaker 2: plays is heavily dependent on how Kansas looks now. To
Speaker 2: be fair, I've missed a few games, as you said,
Speaker 2: I've had a really weird schedule, just had a bunch
Speaker 2: of things come up. I've been out of town for
Speaker 2: extended periods of time. I've missed four games. There's four
Speaker 2: games I did not watch this year, full stop, full honesty.
Speaker 2: Didn't see Oakland, didn't see Wilmington, didn't see Furman, watched
Speaker 2: the highlights of Brown which, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, you're you were out of town for a couple
Speaker 1: of them and working for a couple more. You didn't
Speaker 1: really need to watch any of those games. By the way,
Speaker 1: like even the lousier Kansas teams of years past, you
Speaker 1: pretty much knew what was going to happen in those matchups.
Speaker 1: Those were wins by what quick math tells me twenty one, eighteen,
Speaker 1: thirty five, and thirty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have seen older games against Power five, Power
Speaker 2: four excuse me, opponents, that's five no offense, Craton or
Speaker 2: Power League. At this point, I think this Kansas team
Speaker 2: is disgustingly similar to last year's And this is we've
Speaker 2: talked about this. Cam and I have definitely agreed on
Speaker 2: this point this year that I think this Kansas team
Speaker 2: right now through non con is almost one for one.
Speaker 2: Not one for one maybe, but they're similar. They are
Speaker 2: painfully similar to what they were last year. Albeit I
Speaker 2: do think they are a deeper version for sure. I
Speaker 2: think they have a lot more bodies this year that
Speaker 2: you actually trust to do something on the floor, as
Speaker 2: opposed to last year, which really they only had like
Speaker 2: three guys maybe maybe four, depending on the game last
Speaker 2: year where you had confidence that those guys were gonna
Speaker 2: do anything. So in broad strokes, this team still can't
Speaker 2: win on the road. That's gonna be a problem in
Speaker 2: Big Twelfth play, where you're playing a lot of at
Speaker 2: least pretty solid teams on the road. They're gonna have
Speaker 2: to pick that up and have to figure that out
Speaker 2: if they're gonna have a lot of success there. Obviously,
Speaker 2: there's still a lot of talent. Zeke Mayo been proving
Speaker 2: to us that Mayo is indeed an instrument In the
Speaker 2: last couple of games, dude's been on fire. He's looked amazing.
Speaker 2: He's finally getting a shot to drop Hunter. Dickinson still
Speaker 2: very good player. Despite my criticism of him, He's still
Speaker 2: very good and he's gonna put up numbers. They have
Speaker 2: the pieces to be great, they really do. But like
Speaker 2: you said, I have been critical of them, and I
Speaker 2: think that's because they haven't really other than in flashes
Speaker 2: when they've played good teams, they've not put together complete performances.
Speaker 2: Maybe the Duke game. Maybe the Duke game. I'll give
Speaker 2: you that they looked very solid against Duke, and Duke
Speaker 2: looks like a very solid team. Otherwise, I would say
Speaker 2: that I have been largely unimpressed with what I've seen
Speaker 2: from Kansas relative to expectations.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at their stats from last year versus this year,
Speaker 1: and last year was such a hard it was a
Speaker 1: very difficult year that you definitely could tell if you
Speaker 1: look at their college Basketball reference numbers. But the stats
Speaker 1: are as you've said, the eye test has been that
Speaker 1: they're pretty similar slightly better version. The stats would show
Speaker 1: that's exactly the correct case because last year's Kansas team,
Speaker 1: you look at their college basketball numbers and you look
Speaker 1: at what they did well. These were the things they
Speaker 1: were very good at. Overall field goal percentage, two pointers made,
Speaker 1: two point percentage, and assists, those were the better statistical categories.
Speaker 1: And defensive rebounds because they have Hunter Dickinson, those are
Speaker 1: the exact five categories that they have the highest averages
Speaker 1: this season, just like last year. The weaknesses last year
Speaker 1: outside the top two hundred and three point percentage. This year,
Speaker 1: their percentage is better, but they're taking barely inside the
Speaker 1: top three hundred in attempts with just twenty one a
Speaker 1: game last year. Offensive rebounds were a huge problem this year,
Speaker 1: less than ten a game about the same last year's
Speaker 1: team averaged. Where was the stat that was almost exactly identical.
Speaker 1: Last year's stat seventy two percent at the line, this
Speaker 1: year's team seventy two percent of the line. Last year's
Speaker 1: team fifteen fouls a game, this year's team fifteen fouls
Speaker 1: a game. Last year's team first nationally in assists with
Speaker 1: nineteen this year's team eighteen point nine assists per game.
Speaker 1: They are very similar. Now Kansas has done Kansas the
Speaker 1: whole season last year. I don't love how their numbers, say,
Speaker 1: for a few, are about the same against a schedule
Speaker 1: where half the teams have been worse than any of
Speaker 1: the Big twelve teams. They will not play a game
Speaker 1: the rest of the way, except for maybe their opener
Speaker 1: in the NCAA Tournament against a team worse than five teams.
Speaker 1: We've already had the stats added to the count this year,
Speaker 1: but the three point percentage is about three percent higher.
Speaker 1: Still doesn't feel like enough. Their free throw gosh, darn,
Speaker 1: they're they're They're not even getting the line thirteen times
Speaker 1: a game. The stats indicate that this team has some problems.
Speaker 1: How much optimism do you have about the trouble spots
Speaker 1: that you think could get better in conference play, and
Speaker 1: which parts of this team that aren't good enough do
Speaker 1: you fear are here to stay.
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think it's a great way
Speaker 2: to kind of frame conference play. I think they they
Speaker 2: absolutely have the shooters to make a higher percentage of
Speaker 2: free throws. If those guys can get to the line,
Speaker 2: like aj Store and Zeke Mayo in particular, Dwan Harris too,
Speaker 2: those guys should all be like pretty solid free throw shooters,
Speaker 2: really solid free throw shooters, and they have been historically.
Speaker 2: They just don't get to the line very I don't
Speaker 2: know the numbers out of my head, but they certainly,
Speaker 2: like I mean, they must only be shooting like a
Speaker 2: couple free throws a game at most each. I think
Speaker 2: that can get better, but I think that's going to
Speaker 2: require a strategy change, maybe a strategy change for the better,
Speaker 2: maybe for the worse, because as you said, they are
Speaker 2: like not taking very many threes on a national level.
Speaker 2: That is something that I think they should be doing
Speaker 2: because also again they do have the shooters, Like numbers wise,
Speaker 2: percentages wise, I still have at least an amount of
Speaker 2: hope that guys like Ryland Griffin can play well consistently.
Speaker 2: You see flashes every game from a guy like Rylan
Speaker 2: or even a guy like aj Storre who's been exceedingly
Speaker 2: mediocre to not great, to be quite honest. But those
Speaker 2: guys you still see flashes, and you still see them
Speaker 2: play well at times enough to think that if they can,
Speaker 2: if they can settle in and the team can kind
Speaker 2: of gel around them, something that happens in conference play
Speaker 2: all the time for the Jayhawks historically, then they'll be fine,
Speaker 2: and those guys can have great conference seasons. I'm not
Speaker 2: overly confident that this is ever gonna be a great
Speaker 2: defensive team. They don't necessarily have to be to win,
Speaker 2: but I don't think that's really in the cards for
Speaker 2: this team, probably, which is very strange because that's usually
Speaker 2: like the one thing you super count on for Bill's self,
Speaker 2: and they're not even like an atrocious one. I just
Speaker 2: think they're always going to kind of have holes and
Speaker 2: always kind of have leaks, and always kind of have miscommunications.
Speaker 2: That's part of the game, I guess. But I do
Speaker 2: think they will continually struggle on defense a little bit,
Speaker 2: especially when they play very competent offensive teams, which Hey,
Speaker 2: the Big twelve not known for that, so maybe they'll
Speaker 2: get lucky. I don't know. What about you, Ryan, What
Speaker 2: do you think that they're going to improve? What do
Speaker 2: you think that they will continue struggle with?
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see them get to the line
Speaker 1: better one because they can't get worse, Like they're like
Speaker 1: six to the bottom in the country. And we know
Speaker 1: the way Big twelve games are called. We know that
Speaker 1: the point the possessions per game go down. Whenever these
Speaker 1: teams start playing each other, I think you're gonna see
Speaker 1: that get better. I don't know how much better, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't I don't think there's any
Speaker 1: room for it to go. But up, I think this
Speaker 1: team's better offensive rebounding than they've shown. So they've shot
Speaker 1: a better percentage from the floor, And whenever you have
Speaker 1: a top twenty five national field goal percentage and a
Speaker 1: top ten national two point percentage, your offensive rebounding numbers
Speaker 1: are never going to be that good. Usually offensive rebounds
Speaker 1: come off of two point misses. Three point misses tend
Speaker 1: to have a much higher degree of going to the
Speaker 1: other team. So whenever you have you make more twos
Speaker 1: than just about any team in college of basketball, you
Speaker 1: have fewer opportunities. That's not a crushing stat as long
Speaker 1: as you continue to be a good shooting team. We
Speaker 1: saw last year the overall quality of the two point
Speaker 1: percentage go down throughout the course of conference play. We
Speaker 1: know they couldn't shoot threes in conference play, and the
Speaker 1: offensive rebounding numbers didn't get better. They got plenty of
Speaker 1: defensive rebounds last year, they drew plenty of fouls. They
Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over very much, and their passing
Speaker 1: was great. The problem was they couldn't put it in
Speaker 1: the basket enough. How let me ask you this, especially
Speaker 1: in conference play, they couldn't shoot the ball. What percentage
Speaker 1: from a college basketball player. Would you say is a
Speaker 1: good three point percentage in college basketball?
Speaker 2: I mean actually good? Or like what I would take?
Speaker 1: Uh? Both kill me both.
Speaker 2: I think actually good is like thirty seven and up
Speaker 2: percent And I think what I would take is like
Speaker 2: thirty five and up.
Speaker 1: Because right now they're at thirty five point five percent
Speaker 1: as a team. Last year they were barely thirty two
Speaker 1: percent and just boy did that thing? Yeah, that that
Speaker 1: was that was really rough. And last year I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the conference stats, it got so much worse in
Speaker 1: conference play. They were at thirty three percent in as
Speaker 1: a as a whole, and they were less than thirty
Speaker 1: one in conference play. And boy does that make a difference.
Speaker 1: Out of out of the UH one, two, three, four five, Wow,
Speaker 1: there's only five geez out of the five Jayhawks that
Speaker 1: shot more than fifteen three pointers in conference play last year,
Speaker 1: so won a game? There were there were There were
Speaker 1: five guys that shot at least one three per game
Speaker 1: in conference play last year. How many of them do
Speaker 1: you think shot better than thirty percent?
Speaker 2: Better than thirty percent? Yep, two one.
Speaker 1: Johnny Furfey made thirty seven percent of his threes. However,
Speaker 1: it was right around everybody else thirty one percent in
Speaker 1: the last fifteen games. He had a great first third
Speaker 1: and then a really bad last two thirds of conference
Speaker 1: played everybody everybody else. Nick Timberlake fourteen for forty six.
Speaker 1: That's thirty percent. Kevin mccullor nineteen for sixty four. That's
Speaker 1: twenty nine percent, Dwan Harris ten for thirty five that's
Speaker 1: also twenty nine percent, and Hunter Dickinson eight for thirty
Speaker 1: five that is twenty three percent. Horrendous. It's got to
Speaker 1: be better this year.
Speaker 2: Took fifteen attempts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, el Marco Jackson actually was like like like six
Speaker 1: for fourteen or something, So it was uh, he had
Speaker 1: a great percentage, albeit in a tiny sample size. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the numbers this year. David Koit's been a
Speaker 1: forty five percent three point shooter. He can be consistently
Speaker 1: relied on to come off the bench and hit shots.
Speaker 1: We've seen it. Zeke Mayo is shooting thirty nine percent
Speaker 1: on six threes a game. That's the piece they didn't
Speaker 1: have last year. That's awesome. Cam and I talked about
Speaker 1: on the last show being nervous about them heavily relying
Speaker 1: on him too much. Where if he has a bad game,
Speaker 1: who knows, But for now, thirty nine percent three point
Speaker 1: shooter from a guy that's taking six a game is excellent.
Speaker 1: Aj Store is shooting thirty five percent on three per game,
Speaker 1: Ryland Griffin is shooting thirty three percent on four per game,
Speaker 1: and Hunter Dickinson is shooting thirty two percent on two
Speaker 1: per game. Then there's Dawan Harris, who is barely making
Speaker 1: thirty percent of his threes after making less than thirty
Speaker 1: percent of his threes in conference play last year, we're
Speaker 1: going on a calendar year where he's making less than
Speaker 1: thirty percent of his threes. That sucks. So you look
Speaker 1: at all those numbers. We expect Zeke Mayo to shoot
Speaker 1: the ball well. I expect Ryland Griffin to shoot it
Speaker 1: better than he did in the first half of the year,
Speaker 1: and I expect Dwan Harris to shoot it better than
Speaker 1: he did in the first half. If those three things happen,
Speaker 1: and those are the three guys I've bet on taking
Speaker 1: the first, second, and third most threes in conference play,
Speaker 1: and you think all of that can either stay the
Speaker 1: same or get better, you should have a little more confidence,
Speaker 1: right because those three guys would all be better than
Speaker 1: anyone they had last year except for first half of
Speaker 1: conference play. Fur Fee.
Speaker 2: If that plays out that way, then yeah, I would
Speaker 2: have some confidence.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the non conference play and
Speaker 1: thus far, what I have seen is Kansas has been great,
Speaker 1: perfect even in all settings that aren't road settings, and
Speaker 1: zero to two with two the Missouri game was a
Speaker 1: nine point loss, but two games that weren't competitive for
Speaker 1: almost for seventy three of the eighty minutes that we
Speaker 1: saw them play like two road blowouts, even though I
Speaker 1: know they they almost came back in the Missouri game,
Speaker 1: but for that game will be remembered as a blowout.
Speaker 1: What what are they gonna doing on the road this year?
Speaker 1: You got ten road conference games? How many they win?
Speaker 2: I think we did this prediction. I think I have
Speaker 2: them going four and six in conference play, and honestly,
Speaker 2: I think it could be worse than that if they
Speaker 2: can't write the ship.
Speaker 1: I was gonna read you the matchups, but I don't
Speaker 1: know if the matchups matter. They haven't been able to
Speaker 1: beat good or bad teams on the road the last
Speaker 1: couple of years.
Speaker 2: Right, And also, I mean, you do still have to go,
Speaker 2: Like you gotta go at Houston, and I know Houston's
Speaker 2: not looked like the absolute world beaters. Maybe if someone thought,
Speaker 2: or some people thought, but none, that's a tough place
Speaker 2: to play. Colorado's played decently. Well, you gotta go there.
Speaker 2: That's tough. At BYU, at Utah, at k State, at Baylor,
Speaker 2: at TCU, at Iowa State, at Cincinnati at UCF. That's
Speaker 2: the reverse order of the road games. But that's not easy. Like,
Speaker 2: that's a lot of tough games. And like you said,
Speaker 2: they haven't really been able to consistently beat good or
Speaker 2: bad teams of Allenfield House. And that's a that's a
Speaker 2: tough lineup. Cincinnati's played well this year too, Like that's
Speaker 2: not a bunch of games that I think those are
Speaker 2: just instant check marks like maybe I would have three
Speaker 2: four years ago. You know they're going to lose a
Speaker 2: lot of those games well.
Speaker 1: And if I if you look at just specifically the
Speaker 1: non conference assessments, I think Hunter Dickinson gets an A minus.
Speaker 1: His per forty numbers are better than they were last year.
Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious that whenever he doesn't play well, the
Speaker 1: team doesn't play well. But he statistically is always going
Speaker 1: to be there. And I don't think you can give
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo a grade of less than an A. At
Speaker 1: this point, he is the team's second leading scorer, averaging
Speaker 1: fourteen points. He's second in assist he's second in points,
Speaker 1: he's easily their best three point shooter at thirty nine percent.
Speaker 1: He has been everything that we could have asked him
Speaker 1: to be. Give me a grade for Dewan Harris, who
Speaker 1: is averaging ten points and six assists, which leads the
Speaker 1: Big Twelve, but is shooting just thirty percent from three
Speaker 1: point from the three point line and leading the team
Speaker 1: in minutes.
Speaker 2: I still think I would give Jwan Harris a name.
Speaker 2: I think Dwan Harris at times has been the team's
Speaker 2: best player. I agree with your assessment of Dickinson and
Speaker 2: Mao in that regard. I think you would take them
Speaker 2: over Harris for sure, But I think Harris has been
Speaker 2: an integral part of the team this season. Do you disagree?
Speaker 1: No, I think he's been very good. They haven't needed
Speaker 1: the three point makes from him. I can't think of
Speaker 1: him being like thirty percent you expected to go up
Speaker 1: based on his career. It should, but Harris hasn't cost
Speaker 1: them anything this year. The people who have complained during
Speaker 1: the Creighton and the Missouri losses, man, I can't wait
Speaker 1: for Dwan Harris not be that. That's not even close
Speaker 1: to the biggest problem with this team. Just like in
Speaker 1: either of those games, if people complained about Dickinson, that
Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of sense either. Dickinson put up
Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen, four and four in the Missouri game. I
Speaker 1: understand that he didn't play perfectly, but if your takeaway
Speaker 1: from that game where he got you those stats is
Speaker 1: I can't wait till he's not here. I assure you
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have gone any better if you would put
Speaker 1: any other center in college basketball in his place. He's
Speaker 1: been fine. The next two guys in scoring, kJ Adams
Speaker 1: is fourth with ten points a game. AJ Store is
Speaker 1: fifth with eight points a game. And then we'll throw
Speaker 1: Ryland Griffin, who is sixth with seven points a game.
Speaker 1: Those are the three right there that are going to
Speaker 1: make or break the season for Kansas, Adams, Store and Griffin.
Speaker 1: They're all upperclassmen. We know they all have the ability
Speaker 1: to do it. If two of those three are better
Speaker 1: than they were in non conference play, that gives Kansas
Speaker 1: five viable guys, and I think that's enough to get
Speaker 1: a share of this conference when all is said and done.
Speaker 1: How confident are you that Adams, Griffin, and Store ranked
Speaker 1: those three from most confident to least confident, will be
Speaker 1: viable players for Kansas in the conference lane.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is tough. This is tough because I want
Speaker 2: to say kJ Adams I'm most confident in, but at
Speaker 2: the same time, we've seen him the most on this team,
Speaker 2: in particular, we've seen him with Bill self the most
Speaker 2: and he's been basically this guy, whereas like AJ Store
Speaker 2: has really shown me nothing. But also he has the
Speaker 2: most room I think to grow certainly, and AJ.
Speaker 1: Store has the highest ceiling of the three. He's also
Speaker 1: been the least impressive of the three.
Speaker 2: That's that's a very succinct way of putting it exactly.
Speaker 2: I think I would have to put Man. I think
Speaker 2: I still have to put aj Store last. I've seen
Speaker 2: so so little from him that I've liked consistently.
Speaker 1: And I think I think AJ Storre being the team's
Speaker 1: sixth best player at best, I think that's that's twelve
Speaker 1: and eight in conference play probably.
Speaker 2: I think then I would go Adams, and I think
Speaker 2: I would go Griffin first.
Speaker 1: Really, so you have you have the most confident in
Speaker 1: Ryland Griffin, who out of those three is scoring the
Speaker 1: least amount of points and playing the least amount of minutes.
Speaker 2: Because I think he can shoot threes, he can play
Speaker 2: the most in the open floor. He's he's well, he's
Speaker 2: not the most athletic. That's a very athletic group for one.
Speaker 2: But like Ryland Griffin theoretically has like NBA draft pick
Speaker 2: like potential.
Speaker 1: I think he's the best pro prospect on this roster.
Speaker 2: I think he is too, maybe Flory, but Flory's a
Speaker 2: little undersized for what he is.
Speaker 1: Flory's a question mark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yes, I think Ryland Griffin is the most
Speaker 2: like traditional pro player on the team. And like heay,
Speaker 2: you know, Kelly Ubray dicing it up in the league
Speaker 2: right now having a pretty good season. He was not
Speaker 2: that great at Kansas, so maybe that like Ryland Griffin
Speaker 2: might be a fine NBA player and not be that
Speaker 2: great at Kansas. But nonetheless, I think Griffin has the
Speaker 2: ability to hit like a true another another year in
Speaker 2: a way that Age Stor does. But I've seen so
Speaker 2: little from him. I just don't know if he's going
Speaker 2: to get there this year. And Adams, I think will
Speaker 2: be fine, but will be exactly what he is.
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree completely with Adams store. I mean, story
Speaker 1: isn't even close to the player he was at Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: He averaged seventeen points a game at Wisconsin. He's at
Speaker 1: nine this year this year at half, But that's that's
Speaker 1: the easiest stat to look at and say he's been worse.
Speaker 1: He's also shooting the Okay, let's just let's just get
Speaker 1: into these numbers here. The shooting percentage has gone down
Speaker 1: three percent, the three points per game that he's taking
Speaker 1: two less per game on a team that needs threes.
Speaker 1: He's getting to the line one quarter as much as
Speaker 1: he was last year, despite being an excellent shooter. He's
Speaker 1: rebounding half of what he did last year. He's fouling
Speaker 1: twice as much. Maybe that's the most telling stats. He's
Speaker 1: had no ability to get into rhythm whatsoever, because in
Speaker 1: what twenty minutes a game, he's fouling almost three times,
Speaker 1: like he's averaging a foul every seven minutes, whereas at
Speaker 1: Wisconsin last year he averaged a foul every like twenty
Speaker 1: four minutes. And he is, and for my money, he
Speaker 1: is their best driver on this team. Bill self wants
Speaker 1: to have a ground and pound team. Okay, in order
Speaker 1: to do that, you're wing have to drive. In order
Speaker 1: to offset how they're not making a lot of threes.
Speaker 1: You have to go to the basket and draw fouls.
Speaker 1: Aj Store is your best bet to do it. I
Speaker 1: think you're going to see one of he or Ryland
Speaker 1: Griffin take off and become an All Conference Honorable Mention
Speaker 1: caliber player. I think they're gonna be good. Kansas has
Speaker 1: played one basketball game since two weeks before Christmas by
Speaker 1: the time they tip off on New Year's Eve, so
Speaker 1: that should give aj Store plenty of time to work
Speaker 1: out Kingston practice. I want Bill self to start AJ
Speaker 1: Store against West Virginia. He is not going to bring
Speaker 1: kJ Adams off the bench, as much as I would
Speaker 1: like that to happen. I want to see aj Storr
Speaker 1: start at the three with Ryland Griffin coming off the
Speaker 1: bench if I can't have both of them in the lineup,
Speaker 1: because I think jump starting AJ Store will make or
Speaker 1: break the rest of their season.
Speaker 2: Okay, so hear me out on our hypothetical. What happens
Speaker 2: if AJ Store averages like seven points in conference play?
Speaker 2: What's K's record.
Speaker 1: Twelve and eight? Maybe they Yeah, they're twelve and eight,
Speaker 1: which is basically last year, but ten percent better.
Speaker 2: Okay, what if he averages seven points but Ryland Griffin
Speaker 2: averages like twelve.
Speaker 1: I think that adds at least a couple of wins.
Speaker 1: The road wins are what's getting added here, because they're
Speaker 1: gonna go like nine and one at worst at home,
Speaker 1: Like you just know that's gonna happen. If they don't
Speaker 1: it's some if they lose multiple home conference games Hunter
Speaker 1: Dickinson's hurt like that, that just shouldn't happen. If you
Speaker 1: make Griffin a very promising player where we're talking about
Speaker 1: him going pro after this year, that probably adds two wins.
Speaker 1: If you make Store a very viable player, I think
Speaker 1: that adds two more. That's the difference between twelve conference
Speaker 1: wins and sixteen, right, that feels right.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily unreasonable if you're saying everyone
Speaker 2: else is holding about the same.
Speaker 1: And I don't think the reason this team doesn't feel
Speaker 1: quite right, it's not because they're not good. They're nine
Speaker 1: to two. They've had a good non conference season. I
Speaker 1: think overall you have.
Speaker 2: To give them a beef. They've had a fine non
Speaker 2: conference season.
Speaker 1: I mean, what at the beginning of this year, and
Speaker 1: I know they were the number one team in the country.
Speaker 1: But if I had given you North Carolina, Michigan State,
Speaker 1: Duke Creyton Missouri, you probably would have said, the most
Speaker 1: likely record in those five games is three and.
Speaker 2: Two, right, probably, But I do think you have to
Speaker 2: like acknowledge how those two games went against who they were,
Speaker 2: and also acknowledged like North Carolina is not like anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and Duke Duke was a complete fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty game that they sniped at the end. Credit to him,
Speaker 1: but that was one that whereas and North Carolina was
Speaker 1: two three and two in those five games. Is fine
Speaker 1: three and two while being two and zero in true
Speaker 1: coin flips, that rings a little bit more alarm bell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, especially when you got like absolutely like you
Speaker 2: were not competitive base in your two road games.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think so right now, we would say
Speaker 1: that three players get an A, kJ Adams gets a
Speaker 1: B and two guys get a C, and David Kite
Speaker 1: gets a B and Florie Bedoonga gets a B. Probably
Speaker 1: so off their top eight guys, we're given at least
Speaker 1: a B grade to six of them, only two of
Speaker 1: them have a C. We should be feeling a lot better.
Speaker 1: The problem is it's the two guys that have to
Speaker 1: be at least the B that are both not. Griffin
Speaker 1: and Store are the two different pieces here. Whereas last
Speaker 1: year's team, we know Dickinson, Adams and and Harris and
Speaker 1: Zeke Mayo for that matter. We know that those guys
Speaker 1: what they're good at, what they're not, and what they
Speaker 1: can bring. We didn't think that any of those guys
Speaker 1: would get worse from last year's team that wasn't very good.
Speaker 1: Store and Griffin were brought in to make Kansas different,
Speaker 1: and they haven't been a lot better than Nick Timberlake
Speaker 1: and Johnny Furphy last year. They've been pretty interchangeable for
Speaker 1: the most part with those guys. So why would you
Speaker 1: expect a record to change to what we've seen to
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's well said. And again, those guys
Speaker 2: are are so talented and and both those guys are
Speaker 2: way more talented with way more upside than Nick Timberlake.
Speaker 2: So it's not It's not a gravestone on the season
Speaker 2: by any stretch. Like this team can still absolutely be very, very,
Speaker 2: very good. But I do wonder if that is ever
Speaker 2: gonna happen. We'll see it. Might it definitely could. Bill
Speaker 2: self's a great coach, Hall of Famer for a reason.
Speaker 2: He can do it. He can pull them together. But
Speaker 2: I do think, uh, transfer portal and all that, I
Speaker 2: think you're kind of seeing that take a toll a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're absolutely seeing it take a toll. But I
Speaker 1: mean if if and I think this is a this
Speaker 1: is a pivotal year for Bill self, who was was
Speaker 1: then who is the the the reigning national champion with
Speaker 1: a number one seed bolted into his lap potentially going
Speaker 1: to Kansas City, and then he had the heart problems
Speaker 1: and missed the rest of the season. Since he built
Speaker 1: two back to back preseason number one teams and last
Speaker 1: year didn't go very well, this year hasn't gone any better.
Speaker 1: I would say it's not leaving teams feeling a lot better.
Speaker 1: We'll see that can change a real fast. They start
Speaker 1: five to zero conference playing, we're gonna be sitting here
Speaker 1: singing a different tune, at least all the fans will.
Speaker 1: But you know, Bill self, this is an important year
Speaker 1: to show everybody that that he can build teams that
Speaker 1: win more than just on paper and the portal. We
Speaker 1: know he can build preseason juggernauts on paper in the portal.
Speaker 1: We don't know that it can mess together to do
Speaker 1: great things on the court. Yet we haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: If I were to ask you right now predict Kansas's
Speaker 1: Big Twelve record and where they finish in the Big Twelve,
Speaker 1: what would you say.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna stick with four and six on
Speaker 2: the road so that's six and I think they drop
Speaker 2: one at home, so that gives me thirteen and seven?
Speaker 1: How many and what place is good enough for that?
Speaker 2: My guess, based on the rest of how the league
Speaker 2: has looked so far, that's still probably like, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I mean what fourth or fifth? Does that
Speaker 2: make sense?
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be better. I think if they
Speaker 1: get to thirteen wins, they're better than fourth. I don't
Speaker 1: know who on this really right?
Speaker 2: You think seven losses finishes top three?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do, I do?
Speaker 2: I think? Okay, okay, I would say who gets to
Speaker 2: who gets to better than seven or less than seven losses?
Speaker 2: Iowa State for sure does not lose seven conference games?
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody else? Maybe Houston.
Speaker 2: I think Houston and Baylor both have a chance to
Speaker 2: lose less than seven. And now I mean Baylor also,
Speaker 2: like who knows they absolutely could Baylor I don't really
Speaker 2: fully buy.
Speaker 1: And then you got what who else is there? Like
Speaker 1: anybody else that's given you confidence? I mean, Iowa State
Speaker 1: is the best team in the Big Twelve to this point.
Speaker 1: They are ten and one. Since nat He's probably been
Speaker 1: the second best team. They've been impressive, albeit against the
Speaker 1: worst schedule. I mean what, Yeah, I think Kansas goes
Speaker 1: fifteen and five. I think they lose five on the
Speaker 1: road and then go five and five and they win
Speaker 1: them all home. I think they go fifteen and five,
Speaker 1: and I think that's good enough to win the league.
Speaker 1: I don't think Iowa State's going sixteen and four. I
Speaker 1: think fifteen and five will get you the title. They
Speaker 1: may share it because Iowa State has the Kansas advantage
Speaker 1: where they're going to win so many home games to
Speaker 1: pad those numbers, you can go five hundred on the
Speaker 1: road with how they're probably going to win all but
Speaker 1: one at worst case scenario at Hilton, I think it's
Speaker 1: Kansas and Iowa State by a huge mark right now.
Speaker 1: I think Houston will be better than they have been.
Speaker 1: They've they're a little bit of an unlucky eight and three.
Speaker 1: Baylor hasn't shown that they can beat anybody, and they're
Speaker 1: beat up to hell right now. Cincinnati has been better.
Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati finishes top three. If I had to
Speaker 1: guess right now, I would go, well, then, no, I
Speaker 1: think it's their four. I think Houston gets three. I
Speaker 1: think it's Kansas, Iowa State, Houston, Cincinnati, Bay and I
Speaker 1: think I feel very very confident right now, more than
Speaker 1: most years about those being the top five teams in
Speaker 1: the league.
Speaker 2: I think that probably is is the take. I think.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think there's a really good chance
Speaker 2: that three teams. I don't know about three. I don't know.
Speaker 2: If Kansas goes thirteen, I think I feel pretty confident
Speaker 2: with if thirteen and seven happens, that that's fourth. But
Speaker 2: I would agree that I would not confidently name a
Speaker 2: third team. Maybe I just would go Iowa, Stay, Cincinnati, Houston.
Speaker 2: I think that's what I would have to say, is one, two, three,
Speaker 2: Kansas four. That's what I'll look in.
Speaker 1: Let's look at their schedule, because we said last year
Speaker 1: that it was pivotal for Kansas to get off to
Speaker 1: a good start in Big Twelve play, and they did not.
Speaker 1: They had three losses by the end of January. We
Speaker 1: knew that if that team did not start like seven
Speaker 1: and two or eight and one, which is that that's
Speaker 1: a big It's not like we're asking that them to
Speaker 1: just walk to their mailbox by doing that. But we
Speaker 1: knew if they wanted to win the Big Twelve, considering
Speaker 1: how loaded that their back half was, they needed to
Speaker 1: start extraordinarily well, they didn't, and they wound up being
Speaker 1: what like four or five wins out of the first
Speaker 1: place mark. This year, it's a similar story. I don't
Speaker 1: think the schedule is as tough, and the Big twelve
Speaker 1: isn't as good. But you're gonna open up with West Virginia,
Speaker 1: at Central Florida and Arizona State. Those are three games
Speaker 1: you're gonna be favored in. And I know the UCF
Speaker 1: thing happened last year, it ain't happening again. They're not
Speaker 1: nearly as good as they were mediocre wise last year.
Speaker 1: They're gonna start three and oh, and if they don't,
Speaker 1: every alarm bell in the state gets rained because the
Speaker 1: floor's dropping at that point.
Speaker 2: I do think they opened three and oh with a
Speaker 2: slight scare against West Virginia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the most likely law, the most
Speaker 1: likely scare. And then you have at Cincinnati and at
Speaker 1: Iowa State, and that's brutal. That is a brutal back
Speaker 1: to back. You think they lose both of them if
Speaker 1: they win one. If you get to four and one
Speaker 1: through five, feel awesome because I don't know who else
Speaker 1: is four and one or better.
Speaker 2: I agree if they can win either one of those games,
Speaker 2: more likely Cincinnati, of course, But if they can win
Speaker 2: either one, I do think you're probably you're very likely
Speaker 2: four and one, and you're feeling pretty good. I do
Speaker 2: think they will lose both of those games, though.
Speaker 1: Then Kansas State at TCU and Houston at home, those
Speaker 1: are three games they should win. They will be favored
Speaker 1: in all three of those games. And if they do
Speaker 1: win those games, even in your scenario here, they are
Speaker 1: what six and two at that point, that's still two
Speaker 1: road wins as many as they had all of last
Speaker 1: conference play, and six and two I would be willing
Speaker 1: to bet No one in this league is seven and
Speaker 1: one through eight games.
Speaker 2: I disagree maybe with that. I think I think Iowa
Speaker 2: States good enough to maybe do it. I don't know
Speaker 2: their schedule the top of my head. We'll see. Also,
Speaker 2: I will say, looking ahead to the road slate, I
Speaker 2: do think they'll beat TCU on the road. I agree
Speaker 2: with that, very good chance that they will do that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna win more than two
Speaker 2: road games the rest of the year after that.
Speaker 1: Though, interesting well, I'd see I should have put UCF
Speaker 1: in there, because that's the next game, UCF at home.
Speaker 1: So the first let's just splitting this up into January,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna throw West Virginia in there because it's
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, but still West Virginia at Central Florida
Speaker 1: Arizona State three to zero at Cincinnati at Iowa State
Speaker 1: two toughies. Case State at TCU Houston UCF, that should
Speaker 1: be seven wins. You have to be seven and two,
Speaker 1: even with we're giving them two slip ups on the
Speaker 1: road there, They've got to be seven and two at
Speaker 1: the end of January. If you want to legitimately contend
Speaker 1: for this league. You agree with that.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I would pick seven and two on
Speaker 2: page Okay.
Speaker 1: So then after that, if you have them going thirteen
Speaker 1: and seven, then you have them going six and five
Speaker 1: in their last eleven games, which is bad, and February
Speaker 1: will have a lot of sad asscarcbs if that's the case.
Speaker 1: Here's the February schedule at Baylor. That's tough. They haven't
Speaker 1: won there since Udoka as a bouquet was here. Iowa
Speaker 1: State at home most likely home ol on the schedule,
Speaker 1: that's a brutal, brutal two day turnaround there at Kansas State.
Speaker 1: We know that that that that team has been a
Speaker 1: joke so far, but there isn't a tougher game that
Speaker 1: Kansas State cares about. Three tough games all in a
Speaker 1: row there. They could lose any of those three. They could,
Speaker 1: like they won't lose all three, I don't think, but
Speaker 1: all three of those are possible els.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I think they will absolutely lose
Speaker 2: one at least, I mean if.
Speaker 1: They so, if they may get through that with one
Speaker 1: loss there, and you have them at nine and three
Speaker 1: at this point, then to get to thirteen and seven,
Speaker 1: you have them going four and four down the stretch
Speaker 1: to end, which probably means you don't have them winning
Speaker 1: any road games.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, they I would, I honestly would pick all
Speaker 2: four of those l's on the.
Speaker 1: Road that which that would be the home games Colorado,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and Arizona. You give them wins there.
Speaker 1: The road games Utah BYU, Colorado and Houston. I mean,
Speaker 1: geez and and and to you to your points. If
Speaker 1: you lose to Utah and Colorado on the road, if
Speaker 1: you lose both those games, you shouldn't be better than
Speaker 1: fourth in the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, if you're losing, if you're losing in
Speaker 2: Salt Lake on a random Saturday at nine pm, that
Speaker 2: does not scream series contender.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, though, nine and three to that point,
Speaker 1: and that's where we have them splitting because I think
Speaker 1: they go six and two in those last eight games.
Speaker 1: You think they go four and four. That's the difference
Speaker 1: between thirteen and fifteen wins. Correct, So we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1: And in that stretch, I don't know if we picked
Speaker 1: them to lose any home games. We kind of did
Speaker 1: it in chunks. But like that my initial thought on
Speaker 1: that running through that, and this may blow up in
Speaker 1: my face. I don't think that that that's tough of
Speaker 1: a schedule as last year's was, and as I was
Speaker 1: kind of expecting it to be. I don't know that
Speaker 1: doesn't look as tough because teams like Kansas State, who
Speaker 1: you played twice, haven't been very good. Colorado who twice,
Speaker 1: they don't scare anybody.
Speaker 2: That I think is as like tough a road slate
Speaker 2: as you'll find.
Speaker 1: I mean, who are the five best teams? Who are
Speaker 1: the five teams in this league that you think are
Speaker 1: Kansas's biggest competition? They play all of them on the road.
Speaker 1: Iowa State and Cincinnati. There's two, Baylor, there's three, Houston,
Speaker 1: there's a move. Yeah, so but Colorado are both not
Speaker 1: that bad. And whenever one of your quote bad teams
Speaker 1: that you play is your arch nemesis who would do
Speaker 1: anything to beat you at home, that also hurts, right,
Speaker 1: And like I would probably pick them to win in
Speaker 1: Manhattan because Case State looks absolutely atrocious.
Speaker 2: But like you know, we've said that before and and
Speaker 2: Case State makes that a game.
Speaker 1: Do you think hundred Dickinson wins Big Twelve Player of
Speaker 1: the Year.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. Actually he probably won't. If they finished four,
Speaker 2: he'll be one of the top three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone in Iowa State will win it if if
Speaker 1: they win the league, and I mean Houston's got players
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati he's got players. Yeah, if they finished, they
Speaker 1: got to finish top three for him to have a
Speaker 1: chance at it. But all right, so it'll be interesting
Speaker 1: if what they're thirteen and seven with your prediction, that's
Speaker 1: riding into the NCAA or the Big Twelve tournament at
Speaker 1: twenty two to nine, play to their seed. They get
Speaker 1: two wins there and then they lose one more and
Speaker 1: you got him entering the tournament at twenty four and ten.
Speaker 1: Does that feel right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That sounds about right. That's that's about what i'd say. Yeah,
Speaker 2: twenty four and ten.
Speaker 1: Feel that feels like a lot of losses.
Speaker 2: And that's gonna be a three or four probably three.
Speaker 1: And a loss to a good shooting three seed or
Speaker 1: six seed, a weights. It feels like, sounds about right.
Speaker 1: That's I said, round to thirty two loss. That was
Speaker 1: the music that was playing in my ears the other
Speaker 1: night when we recorded, and that will still be the
Speaker 1: music playing in my ears.
Speaker 2: Come March, I fear, But who knows. If you very pessimistic,
Speaker 2: admittedly this team is still very good and very talented.
Speaker 2: There's absolutely a future where this team is, like, you know,
Speaker 2: twenty seven and seven are better at like a one
Speaker 2: seed and rolls to an elite eight.
Speaker 1: I remember whenever Kansas was a one seed in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: at twenty seven and seven, I remember people saying, like
Speaker 1: they deserve it. But it's wild that there's a one
Speaker 1: seed with seven losses that used to just never happen,
Speaker 1: and now you look at the big twelve slate. I
Speaker 1: don't know how anybody, I mean Iowa State has as
Speaker 1: good of an argument as anybody to be a top
Speaker 1: a number one seed this year. I don't see any
Speaker 1: way that that team makes it through Big Twelve play
Speaker 1: with fewer than five, maybe even six losses, considering how
Speaker 1: tough this this league projects to be with road games
Speaker 1: and they like, I don't think anybody in this conference
Speaker 1: is making it through with fewer than five maybe six
Speaker 1: overall losses. Depends on if you really think Iowa State
Speaker 1: has Like if Iowa State has the Houston draw last
Speaker 1: year where they have no injuries and they win all
Speaker 1: the fifty to fifty games and everything just kind of
Speaker 1: breaks right, which is a mark of a good team, right,
Speaker 1: It's the Chiefs are commit, but also it requires some
Speaker 1: good fortune. You have to have the field goal will
Speaker 1: get blocked on the last play of the game every
Speaker 1: now and then to have that record, Like if that
Speaker 1: happens for Iowa State, then they go what sixteen and four?
Speaker 1: But if like they if they have the Baylor the
Speaker 1: bad stretch we see Baylor get every now and then,
Speaker 1: where Baylor goes like eleven and seven and Big Twelve
Speaker 1: play like that wouldn't surprise you either, Like this league
Speaker 1: is is just so. I'm not gonna say it's loaded,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't have any turds. And whenever you don't
Speaker 1: have any turds, you're there are no the ACC duke
Speaker 1: all those years that got to go play Louisville and
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech on the road and back to back games,
Speaker 1: You're like, well, there's no chance they drop those games.
Speaker 1: There are none of those in the Big Twelve, even
Speaker 1: though the league is less top heavy.
Speaker 2: Than it usually is. Uh, well, we'll see what case
Speaker 2: State does you know? You know we gotta have that.
Speaker 1: Not for Kansas, Kansas State, except for the one year
Speaker 1: for Kansas your least favorite Kansas team of all time
Speaker 1: is the only one that's ever won an easy game
Speaker 1: out there, And boy was it a good one.
Speaker 2: Fifty four forty one, fifty.
Speaker 1: Nine forty one, sir, they scored fifty nine and that game,
Speaker 1: use me, excuse me. By the way, do you know
Speaker 1: what the score of that game was with one minute left?
Speaker 2: Wasn't it like like fifty to thirty six or something.
Speaker 1: It was fifty nine to thirty five with a minute left,
Speaker 1: and Kansas State got to walk on threes that pulled
Speaker 1: them out of the thirties, which I believe would have
Speaker 1: been the fewest they've scored in like seventy years or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: One of the worst games of any sport I've ever watched.
Speaker 1: And only a couple thousand souls were there to watch it,
Speaker 1: which is good because now you know how, like like
Speaker 1: years later, like a thousand more people than actually were
Speaker 1: there tell their kids they were there for the Chiefs
Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl. It's it's the opposite for that
Speaker 1: kuk staking there's only like four hundred people who claim
Speaker 1: to be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So Okay.
Speaker 1: Overall, I think that we feel pretty similarly with Kansas
Speaker 1: regarding what hasn't gone right. I have more optimism just
Speaker 1: based on history's sake. Eighty percent of the time they
Speaker 1: wind up as a top two seed under Bill self,
Speaker 1: the talents there, they usually compete to win this league.
Speaker 1: I'm betting on history because it just tells that tells
Speaker 1: us that they normally figure things out way more often
Speaker 1: than they don't.
Speaker 2: You're betting much, right, I'm betting on recent history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, recent history, which is what since twenty nineteen, nineteen
Speaker 1: twenty one, two, three, the last and four the last
Speaker 1: six years, they've only won the Big Twelve twice. No,
Speaker 1: they won it three times, twenty twenty two to twenty three.
Speaker 1: Half the time they have a which is frustratingously still
Speaker 1: quite good. Yeah, but we'll see a lot of it
Speaker 1: all depends on our buddy. Yep, come on, damn it there,
Speaker 1: it is a lot of it depends on him. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens point in the show where we do
Speaker 1: Big twelve games, but there are literally none except for well,
Speaker 1: there's one. There's also only one basketball game involving a
Speaker 1: ranked team that has taken place since Cam and I
Speaker 1: did a show Monday night, and that was number twenty
Speaker 1: five Baylor playing Division two Arlington Baptist and beating them
Speaker 1: so badly that it shouldn't be legal. John Rothstein still tweeted,
Speaker 1: like Scott drew the thing he does after Baylor wins
Speaker 1: every game, and I'm like, oh, Baylor played tonight and
Speaker 1: I saw they played a D two school.
Speaker 2: Beat him so bad they turned into Arlington Catholic.
Speaker 1: Oh snap, that was actually pretty funny. Look at that.
Speaker 1: It came on a show that I don't know if
Speaker 1: anybody's listening to, but you know, at least it was funny,
Speaker 1: nice work.
Speaker 2: For all four people that heard it, hopefully they left.
Speaker 1: So whenever we have literally quite literally zero other games
Speaker 1: to recap, I guess we just go right into the
Speaker 1: next SEGMENTE ask RCB. That's this very short other game
Speaker 1: segment really helps our average here in my goal to
Speaker 1: not make the game where we're the show where we're
Speaker 1: not recapping any games, be less than an aaron half.
Speaker 1: We only have a few askarcbs as well, because people
Speaker 1: have been busy with other stuff this week. I guess
Speaker 1: I guess I'll start with my own question that's not
Speaker 1: even written. How was your Christmas landing?
Speaker 2: Hey? It was really good. It was really good. Had
Speaker 2: a good time just with the family. This year. We
Speaker 2: didn't go anywhere, so just my mom, dad, and sister.
Speaker 2: It was fun. They got me a refurbished laptop, still
Speaker 2: a couple years old, but I didn't have a laptop
Speaker 2: of my own. Actually I was living in the year
Speaker 2: nineteen forty five. So they got this one podcast I
Speaker 2: borrowed my mom's really my sisters specifically specifically for the show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would also use it to I'm writing a script.
Speaker 2: Those steal my ideas, don't ask me about it. I'm
Speaker 2: not posting it anywhere publicly because you are thieves on
Speaker 2: the internet. But so I would do that. But yes,
Speaker 2: for those two things, writing with a friend and doing
Speaker 2: this show, I would borrow either my mom's or sister's computer.
Speaker 1: Well, I won't spoil I do know a lot of
Speaker 1: in the script. I've read it, and don't steal his idea.
Speaker 1: It may or may not involve a basketball coach. That's
Speaker 1: bald that.
Speaker 2: We all know the ending at lead eight loss.
Speaker 1: They all know. I mean, hey, you know what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, takes teams that are really good early
Speaker 1: in the season and they limp their way to a
Speaker 1: to a sub five hundred record in the second half
Speaker 1: of the year. Who would play Hunter Dickinson there, sir,
Speaker 1: Because whoever is is going to get booed off the stage?
Speaker 2: Are doing this on the stage?
Speaker 1: No, it's oh, it's not a movie. It's not a play. Okay,
Speaker 1: I was picturing. I've been in I mean, it's been
Speaker 1: the year of musical sir. I've seen a lot of plays.
Speaker 1: I feel I'm still in Wicked mode at this point,
Speaker 1: which I refuse to watch. I haven't even seen it.
Speaker 1: I refuse to watch till it comes out on the
Speaker 1: streaming apps, because there's no chance my walnut sized bladder
Speaker 1: is sitting in a movie theater for that long. But
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about Wicked. So I feel like that that's
Speaker 1: it must be a play.
Speaker 2: Right it is. I mean it's a musical, it's a
Speaker 2: movie also, but it was a Broadway show. Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: And here's my like, I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: if this is gonna be a quick audible out of it.
Speaker 1: I so I listened to Ariana Grande singing a Santa
Speaker 1: Claus song in like twenty seventeen, and I saw the
Speaker 1: Wicked preview and I didn't know who it was, and
Speaker 1: my wife said, that's Ariana Grande. I said, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: That person's white. When did Ariana Grande go Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: She's not even close.
Speaker 2: To what she looked like a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Like, is this it's an audible out of because I'm
Speaker 1: genuinely curious when that happened.
Speaker 2: No, it happened. I'm as far as I know, as
Speaker 2: someone who does not really follow Ariana Grande that closely. Uh,
Speaker 2: as far as I can tell, it happened for this movie.
Speaker 2: She's gone with fairy like pale makeup, and she has
Speaker 2: the blonde hair for for the movie, so as far
Speaker 2: as I know, this is a very recent development.
Speaker 1: Interesting I didn't know. I didn't know that was her
Speaker 1: because she looked so different, which is wild. But I
Speaker 1: hear the movie's great, so I'm sure she's counting her
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars bail was in the process, because there's
Speaker 1: probably a lot of them.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: I'm glad your Christmas was good. There wasn't any The
Speaker 1: Chiefs didn't ruin Christmas this year. They've lost one time
Speaker 1: since last Christmas, so I'm sure every other fan base
Speaker 1: is thrilled to hear me talk about how Oh I'm
Speaker 1: glad the Chiefs didn't ruin Christmas by losing their second
Speaker 1: game in a year. But I think that there was
Speaker 1: only one political moment when we had a Trump bobblehead
Speaker 1: pop up in a in a in a gift exchange
Speaker 1: where there's plenty of people in the house that did
Speaker 1: not appreciate it and plenty that did. Since I wasn't involved.
Speaker 1: As shocking is that that's something I would do to
Speaker 1: make people angry, And even I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: think I would have done that.
Speaker 2: I would certainly assume the person that did that new
Speaker 2: exactly what they were doing.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they most certainly did. And it sounds like
Speaker 1: something that Dick Underscore would do. But unfortunately he did not.
Speaker 1: He did not cleat a political question this week. So
Speaker 1: everybody can come back out from underneath there, out of
Speaker 1: your hiding spots. So Wayne got this question in just
Speaker 1: a little bit too late last show, and I copied
Speaker 1: and pasted it in my own notes because I want
Speaker 1: to make sure I asked it. But then Wayne reasked it,
Speaker 1: so I didn't even need to do that. I remember
Speaker 1: we talked about how a couple of shows ago, how
Speaker 1: we're kind of soulmates here Wayne. He asks, if someone
Speaker 1: offered you two thousand, seven hundred and thirty nine United
Speaker 1: States dollars every day that you stay in federal prison,
Speaker 1: how long could slash would you last? Also, adds Fay
Speaker 1: Lease navidad Dave Niicaragua, sounds like Wayne Kerr is in
Speaker 1: a much better place than East Kansas on a forty
Speaker 1: degree foggy night right now, jealous of that twenty seven
Speaker 1: and thirty nine dollars to stay in federal prison. That's
Speaker 1: more than one hundred dollars an hour. But federal prison land,
Speaker 1: and how long are you lasting.
Speaker 2: I'm knowing myself, I would consider it for about a
Speaker 2: day and decided it wasn't worth it. If it was
Speaker 2: forced upon me, I would probably like a few days,
Speaker 2: maybe three or four days.
Speaker 1: So according to Google, the average or median rather median
Speaker 1: income in the United States for an adult man was
Speaker 1: forty five nine hundred dollars last year. For the average
Speaker 1: person it was thirty nine thousand. Won't get into that debate,
Speaker 1: so we'll just take the average person thirty nine thousand
Speaker 1: dollars was the median income. In order to make that,
Speaker 1: you would just need to stay in prison for like
Speaker 1: seventeen days. Like you could spend three weeks in jail
Speaker 1: and make and granted it's not the Johnson County jail,
Speaker 1: it's it's federal prison here.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Like, you take like like five weeks and stay in
Speaker 1: federal prison, and then the last like forty seven weeks
Speaker 1: of the year, you can do whatever you want. Then
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to watch Kansas lose eight conference games
Speaker 1: in that stretch, and you'd have a ton of money
Speaker 1: when you got out.
Speaker 2: That's true. I mean that's all upside the way you've
Speaker 2: put it there.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. There's no way. The money wouldn't matter.
Speaker 1: I would die in federal prison.
Speaker 2: You know me.
Speaker 1: You know I would die in federal prison.
Speaker 2: It would be yeah, I'd be rough. It'd be rough
Speaker 2: time for Ryan Landrath. I think it would be only
Speaker 2: marginally better for landin Fields. I think it would be
Speaker 2: equally as bad.
Speaker 1: Landon is more endurant than I am. As far as
Speaker 1: I'm sure Landon can fall asleep in a room that
Speaker 1: doesn't have a fan going, I cannot do that. So
Speaker 1: therefore the prison every night.
Speaker 2: But you could.
Speaker 1: But if you got tired enough, I think you could.
Speaker 1: You seem more likely to be capable of falling asleep
Speaker 1: on anything. Whereas that ain't gonna work for me. I'm
Speaker 1: i'm I know. I need a cat, I need a fan,
Speaker 1: I need a heated blanket. I'm not doing I'm not
Speaker 1: out to to stay.
Speaker 2: Can you sleep on airplanes? No?
Speaker 1: I cannot. I cannot. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Before you ask how tired, it doesn't matter. I can't
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: See I thought, but that I wouldn't be able to,
Speaker 2: And then recently, one of my out of town trips
Speaker 2: was overseas, if nothing else, so its first time going overseas.
Speaker 2: I was in Europe. It was cool, and I fell asleep.
Speaker 2: I was shocked I actually fell asleep. I was so
Speaker 2: exhausted that I slept regardless how long I actually fell
Speaker 2: asleep on every flight on the way back, which was
Speaker 2: three different flights of all varying lengths Atlanta TA Kansas City,
Speaker 2: which is like an hour and forty five minutes correct,
Speaker 2: and I still dozed off for like thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: I am so envious of that, because that would make
Speaker 1: the time go so fast if you fell asleep and
Speaker 1: woke up and the flight had half of it was done.
Speaker 2: See it is, and that does rock. I will say though,
Speaker 2: on the way over, not tired enough for an eight
Speaker 2: hour flight, didn't sleep a wink.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's see. That sounds right. So it's something you
Speaker 1: kind of have to go through your battle scars. And
Speaker 1: then after dealing with an eight hour flight with no sleep,
Speaker 1: you kind of then are a case of falling asleep
Speaker 1: on said flat exactly. Yes, but if you can't fall
Speaker 1: asleep on a but if you can't fall asleep on
Speaker 1: an airplane. You probably aren't falling asleep very well in prison.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, yeah, probably not. You're actually probably in significantly
Speaker 2: more danger in prison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not gonna work there. I would take zero days, Wayne,
Speaker 1: But I am curious for you to answer that, because
Speaker 1: you're very good at giving me feedback on the show.
Speaker 1: Tell me how many days would you opt to spend?
Speaker 1: Even though if you're spending Christmas in Nicaragua, twenty seven
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a day to go to prison, you may
Speaker 1: not need it. So here's the building of life wherever
Speaker 1: you don't need to go to prison to make twenty
Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars a day. At show me Hawk with
Speaker 1: a trio of questions, here, could you imagine if we
Speaker 1: had the conference customization from college football twenty five in
Speaker 1: a college basketball video game? All that you're gonna say
Speaker 1: in college basketball and the video game would be fun?
Speaker 1: Where the hell is the college basketball video game? It's
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five almost? How will we not figure this out?
Speaker 2: I know? And how is this not figured out? With
Speaker 2: college football game?
Speaker 1: Elon Musk he can send a lot of stuff up
Speaker 1: in the air. Can he not figure out college football?
Speaker 1: Play college basketball video games?
Speaker 2: Those two are equal skills like those are feeding off
Speaker 2: one another. They're dependent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he can send a rocket ship to the moon,
Speaker 1: I have to hope that he can make a college
Speaker 1: basketball video game, which is why he was elected. Well
Speaker 1: kind of, he's going through the president land, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if you know that.
Speaker 2: He's going through the president or going for the president.
Speaker 1: I have lots of comments I want to make that
Speaker 1: would infuriate both sides of the political spectrum, but I'm
Speaker 1: just going to move on to this question about ranking
Speaker 1: Chiefs teams instead. That seems safer. From one to six,
Speaker 1: rank every Chiefs team besides the current one in the
Speaker 1: Mahomes era. Okay, so right off the bat, I want
Speaker 1: to say the eighteen team is first. It wasn't the best,
Speaker 1: but it was the most fun.
Speaker 2: The eighteen Chiefs team is like one of the single
Speaker 2: most fun seasons of any sports team I've ever had.
Speaker 1: That was so unexpected, like neither one of us had
Speaker 1: ever had anything like that, and it just was a
Speaker 1: dream until the coin landed on heads instead of tails
Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 2: Correct, I would co sign that exactly. That's not the best,
Speaker 2: but it is the it's my best.
Speaker 1: Am I crazy if I say that half of those
Speaker 1: seasons ended in Super Bowls, and I think the team
Speaker 1: that I would pick to beat any of them was
Speaker 1: one that didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't think eighteen would beat many of the other
Speaker 2: teams quite frankly, too flawed.
Speaker 1: No, it's twenty twenty is the best team of the
Speaker 1: Mahomes era.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right. I think you are probably right.
Speaker 1: It goes in this order, and I think there's a
Speaker 1: decent gap between each of these blocks. Actually, twenty then
Speaker 1: twenty two, then nineteen, and then twenty three, then twenty one,
Speaker 1: then eighteen. Eighteen was the quote worst team.
Speaker 2: Eighteen eighteen was not worse than life lat season, not
Speaker 2: even close.
Speaker 1: You think the eighteen team beats that's because of offense.
Speaker 1: Last year's defense was the second best in the league.
Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen's offense was the best in the league. It's similar,
Speaker 1: just it's not as pretty to watch. But last year's
Speaker 1: team was. They won more close game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the eighteen team would not lose that Christmas
Speaker 2: game to the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that eighteen team also wouldn't have
Speaker 1: beaten the Ravens. Seventeen to ten in the title game.
Speaker 2: That is true, but they still might have beat them.
Speaker 1: We do you agree that it's twenty twenty two and
Speaker 1: nineteen of the top three in some order?
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the three best, Like if we're bracket styling,
Speaker 2: those are the top three seeds. I agree, And I really.
Speaker 1: Thought I thought eighteen was better than nineteen until the
Speaker 1: second quarter the Texans playoff game too, And now I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I don't know a lot of people would
Speaker 1: say last year's Chiefs team was the worst of the six.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that can be true, but I
Speaker 1: like because why because the offense wasn't as good.
Speaker 2: I I mean, eye test, it was the worst. But
Speaker 2: the eighteen defense is probably The eighteen defense is probably
Speaker 2: worse than the twenty three offense.
Speaker 1: The eighteen defense is the worst of any of those
Speaker 1: twelve units.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is true, even though the twenty
Speaker 2: three offense really wants you to believe that it's them.
Speaker 1: Like you say, the eighteen team definitely beats the twenty
Speaker 1: three team or whatever. The eighteen teams defense literally lost
Speaker 1: the game for the Chiefs on the title game with
Speaker 1: a self inflicted error. The twenty three teams big thing
Speaker 1: was they didn't beat themselves. Mahomes was two and two
Speaker 1: through four games in his career where he scored forty points.
Speaker 2: Which is absurd. I still think, and this is good
Speaker 2: basketball analysis.
Speaker 1: A lot of basketball they analyze right now.
Speaker 2: It's true. I still do think like that. The eighteen
Speaker 2: Mahomes team though, like they could torch anybody, and I
Speaker 2: think they would scored on the twenty three defense easily,
Speaker 2: and the twenty three offense would score on that eighteen defense.
Speaker 2: But I like, I don't know. I mean, they were
Speaker 2: kind of a super jankie unit.
Speaker 1: It's a matchup thing for sure, and I'll hear that argument. Also,
Speaker 1: fun fact the eighteen Chiefs were the eighteen Chiefs defense
Speaker 1: was the first time that caused, at least for my
Speaker 1: years to hear Landon saying the F word because the
Speaker 1: Chiefs scored fifty damn points in Los Angeles and lost. Somehow,
Speaker 1: there's still this day the only team that's ever scored
Speaker 1: fifty and lost an NFL game. And Landon was angry
Speaker 1: after that game, which and that's the first time, and
Speaker 1: I swear it was like hearing something that you didn't
Speaker 1: think was possible. Over tex So it was visually seeing
Speaker 1: something that I didn't think was possible. You at that
Speaker 1: point led me in the f bomb count lifetime one
Speaker 1: to zero and you're now losing by a lot.
Speaker 2: Oh you hadn't had one before that, I know at least.
Speaker 1: No, I was a goodie two shoes in high school, Sir,
Speaker 1: you should know that I was homeschooling.
Speaker 2: No, so was I. I really let it slip on
Speaker 2: the on the chat, try to try to pull it back,
Speaker 2: But yeah, that did happen. That's true. That's true. If
Speaker 2: there was one day, six turnovers in one game, five
Speaker 2: turnovers in one game, losing the greatest game I've ever
Speaker 2: watched with my eyeballs.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, three he had six turnovers and
Speaker 1: led his offense like six hundred some yards. That game
Speaker 1: wasn't on my homes and Skip Bayless tried to make
Speaker 1: it sound like it was, and I hated it.
Speaker 2: It definitely wasn't just a frustrating, frustrating night, even though
Speaker 2: in hindsight that is like the only Chiefs loss that
Speaker 2: I go back and watch the highlights occasionally, because that
Speaker 2: game was just absolutely sick.
Speaker 1: So the breakdown of that game, they scored fifty one
Speaker 1: points and had five drives into turnovers.
Speaker 2: Right, that is absolute banana pants.
Speaker 1: And in order to get a game to have fifty
Speaker 1: four to fifty one points, you have to have a
Speaker 1: lot of special teams or defensive touchdowns. There just simply
Speaker 1: aren't enough possessions in a game. And I think that
Speaker 1: game had three defensive touchdowns. It did Alan Bailey fumble
Speaker 1: recovery and then to like book them. I think that
Speaker 1: was his name. I can't remember his first name. Touchdowns
Speaker 1: for the Rams, Aaron Aaron Donald forced one of the
Speaker 1: strips at he did and and up until the Raiders
Speaker 1: game on Christmas, we've come full circle. Up until the
Speaker 1: Raiders came on Christmas. That was the only pick six
Speaker 1: in Mahomes' career.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that. That's wild.
Speaker 1: I actually don't think that's true.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, curious Tony, Yeah, let a ball go
Speaker 2: through his hands for pick six. He also threw yeah,
Speaker 2: the Bills, that's.
Speaker 1: The one I'm thinking of the Lightning game with threw
Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill's hands. Okay, how about this. That was the
Speaker 1: only time Mahomes had a pick six that wasn't a drop.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true either. I do the
Speaker 2: film of every game.
Speaker 1: I pride myself as a man of faith slash man
Speaker 1: of stats. And there goes Castianos to make it a
Speaker 1: four to nothing ball game. That's disappointing, Like, really, I'm
Speaker 1: better than that. I'll do better with my next k
Speaker 1: U stat. Here's an other football question, and Landon, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna agree with me on this at Show
Speaker 1: Me Hawk, who is always giving me the business on
Speaker 1: Twitter for my very very aggressive NFL coaching takes, says,
Speaker 1: can you elaborate on why football coaches should go forward
Speaker 1: at the opposing forty yard line? Okay, so my stance
Speaker 1: on this and I am admitting this, I would get
Speaker 1: fired very quickly as an NFL coach because I'm too aggressive.
Speaker 1: I play it like I would play it like you
Speaker 1: play Madden, and I would be a genius for like
Speaker 1: my team would start like six and two, and I'd
Speaker 1: be a front runner for Coach of the Year because
Speaker 1: the aggressive stuff would work early when there's no film
Speaker 1: on it, and then it would dramatically fall apart quickly.
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell and the NFC Championship game style, I think
Speaker 1: fourth and one is a go anywhere on the field
Speaker 1: aside from certain like you're trying to run on the
Speaker 1: clock sort of situations, I think fourth and fourth and
Speaker 1: two or less is kind of an automatic go anywhere
Speaker 1: on the field inside of your own twenty or outside
Speaker 1: of your own twenty five yard line. Is that crazy?
Speaker 2: Uh, it's not crazy, And you kind of did catch
Speaker 2: that situationally.
Speaker 1: No, if it's three nothing in the fourth quarter and
Speaker 1: your defense is playing well, sure kick it away. But
Speaker 1: like if your offense can't get one or two yards,
Speaker 1: you should lose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I largely do agree with that. If you're at
Speaker 2: like the thirty plus going the other way, yeah, you're
Speaker 2: kind of going for that fourth and two or less
Speaker 2: anywhere on the field.
Speaker 1: Field goals are also utterly useless unless you are extending
Speaker 1: a possession game to one more possession of a game.
Speaker 1: Think about it. You have to score more than two
Speaker 1: field goals to be worth one touchdown.
Speaker 2: Ryan, that is one of the wisest things you've ever
Speaker 2: said in your days on this earth.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy, and like eventually, so like right now,
Speaker 1: we look back at like the nineties Chiefs who would
Speaker 1: punt on fourth and one at the opposing thirty eight,
Speaker 1: and we laugh at how conservative coaches used to be,
Speaker 1: whereas now, I mean in the Lions, one of the
Speaker 1: early two thousand Lions teams literally kicked off good to
Speaker 1: kick off in overtime because of the wind, like teams
Speaker 1: were so conservative back then. In twenty or thirty years,
Speaker 1: we're going to look back at this era of NFL
Speaker 1: football and college football. I'm looking at you, David Beatty,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you Lance Lipeld and be like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, can you even believe there was a time
Speaker 1: where people didn't automatically go for it on fourth and
Speaker 1: one on the other side.
Speaker 2: Of the field. Correct, that is going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fourth and fourth and like four or less on
Speaker 1: the plus side of the field is an automatic go
Speaker 1: unless I can kick a easy field goal to make
Speaker 1: a one score game with two.
Speaker 2: Score game, Yes, I agree, or if I'm up forty.
Speaker 1: Especially right, exactly, especially if you have a quite possibly
Speaker 1: the best football player that will ever be seen when
Speaker 1: all said and done, with a rocket launcher attached to
Speaker 1: his right shoulder.
Speaker 2: Whenever you have that guy and you choose vision making.
Speaker 1: Correct, yes, so when like when you have that guy,
Speaker 1: I would prefer not to kick the eighteen yard field
Speaker 1: go off the one yard line like they did not
Speaker 1: too long ago.
Speaker 2: I concur I think you're onto something there. I think
Speaker 2: let the best player in the history of the football
Speaker 2: make plays that seems good to me.
Speaker 1: Sure would be nice, but you know how that works.
Speaker 1: At Bentley Hunt fifteen, what's the record and conference play
Speaker 1: this year? We kind of went over and I'll say
Speaker 1: fifteen and five, thirteen and seven. We got two from
Speaker 1: cam who we missed dramatically. Here, he says, ask RCB
Speaker 1: your face with two choices. Number one, let Bob Huggins
Speaker 1: be your designated driver in rush hour traffic. Oh lord,
Speaker 1: not Bob Huggins and rush hour traffic. Or spend six
Speaker 1: hours in a car ride with Jerome Tang, who is
Speaker 1: shoeless and is trying to convert you to his faith.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, somebody make it all stop.
Speaker 2: God, I'm I'm uh. I don't Jerome Tang's polish is
Speaker 2: wearing off a bit these days, considering their six and
Speaker 2: five start with shameful l's. But uh, you know, I'd
Speaker 2: spend six hours in a car with Tang. I think
Speaker 2: as a guy, he's probably okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Whoever has captured landing and is holding him hostage. We're
Speaker 1: coming for you. We know who you are, and we
Speaker 1: know you're making him say stuff like that because nobody
Speaker 1: is on purpose spending six hours in a car with
Speaker 1: the shoeless Jerome Tang, who is the We were talking
Speaker 1: about this on the last show, how crazy it is
Speaker 1: that Jerome Tang. What he said was what bought him
Speaker 1: good grace immediately, and now what he says is like
Speaker 1: making it fall apart quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be sure he is, he is slipping a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: It seems Jerome Tang would be like a fifty four
Speaker 1: percent winning percentage if he was just five hundred in
Speaker 1: overtime games. Like the overtime stat is the only thing
Speaker 1: holding him up from having some ugly numbers. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is somewhat true. That is showing, especially this season, they're bad.
Speaker 1: Cam also wants to know what is our opinion on eggnog?
Speaker 1: Coming from a pre diabetic man, he says, I have
Speaker 1: never had actual eggnog. We used to have that like
Speaker 1: crap mixed into the shakes. We would make it Culver's
Speaker 1: and I never had one.
Speaker 2: I just this year tried eggnog like a vanilla spice
Speaker 2: one that was really really good, and I had regular,
Speaker 2: which was fine ish, it was okay, okay, So you would.
Speaker 1: Give it a solid five out of ten.
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, Regular, I would give maybe like a six.
Speaker 2: And but the vanilla one, I would say, that's like
Speaker 2: an eight. Is it better than pumpkin flavored drinks? Uh?
Speaker 2: The vanilla one?
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, I'll have to I'll have to add some point,
Speaker 1: like you remember how crazy how cuckoo people would go
Speaker 1: for that at Culver's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember the eggnog shake being fairly popular.
Speaker 1: It was also really easy to make. I hated being
Speaker 1: on shakes and having people order like thick candies because
Speaker 1: they were harder to blend. But the eggnog was completely liquid,
Speaker 1: so it blended right into the shake mix and you
Speaker 1: could sandbag the hell out of those orders. It also
Speaker 1: was the same color as the white, so you didn't
Speaker 1: really even need to try. It looked like it was blended.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: That is a fun fact. I have never been recognized
Speaker 1: on this show, but I know sometimes people who used
Speaker 1: to operate Alait that Colvers sometimes listening to the show,
Speaker 1: So hopefully they missed this episode. If you ever have
Speaker 1: asked arcps to Twitter hashtag is eggnog better than pumpkin?
Speaker 1: Come back cam? Come on? Come on? Well that was
Speaker 1: my fall. I had the sound thing muted once again,
Speaker 1: going for podcaster of the year. All right, previewing a
Speaker 1: big twelve game conference season is here. Rankings will change,
Speaker 1: but also will they There's no real games to talk about,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure Kansas will stay where they're at. West
Speaker 1: Virginia at number seven Kansas on Tuesday, December thirty. First,
Speaker 1: that's New Year's Eve WTF at one o'clock WTF and
Speaker 1: ESPN plus ask come on, three horrible things.
Speaker 2: This is the single least accessible conference game in the
Speaker 2: history of Kansas basketball.
Speaker 1: Ah, but you are forgetting, oh Kansas basketball. I thought
Speaker 1: you're gonna say the Big twelve because Arizona State and
Speaker 1: BYU played two hours later on the same day on
Speaker 1: the same app.
Speaker 2: That is significantly less accessible than this.
Speaker 1: Awful, just awful. Darien Devrii's West Virginia Mountaineers enter Allen
Speaker 1: Field House with the same record as Kansas at nine
Speaker 1: and two. They pulled off one of the biggest upsets
Speaker 1: in college basketball this thus far, by shocking third rank
Speaker 1: in Zaga and Atlantis. They also in that tournament beat
Speaker 1: Big twelve Fox Arizona. They were paired together before they
Speaker 1: became conference rivals. The losses for the Mountaineers are the
Speaker 1: only other two teams on the schedule that people have
Speaker 1: heard of, being Pitt and Louisville. The pit game was
Speaker 1: a blowout.
Speaker 2: Coach's kid, Tucker Devrez is a six to seven wing
Speaker 2: as one of the best shooters in the country. He
Speaker 2: is forty seven percent from three this year. It's very,
Speaker 2: very good, but he hasn't played since the Atlantis tournament
Speaker 2: and is out indefinitely. He's almost certainly out for this
Speaker 2: game as well.
Speaker 1: That hurts slash helps depending on who you're rooting for here.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State transferred Javon Small has exploded onto the scene
Speaker 1: as one of the best guards in the conference. He
Speaker 1: leads to the Mountaineers with twenty points and five assists.
Speaker 1: He's shooting thirty nine percent from three, and he's just
Speaker 1: a dynamite key to my heart caliber eighty seven percent
Speaker 1: career free throw shooter. He's been turnover prone this year,
Speaker 1: particularly in fast environments, which figures to be something the
Speaker 1: Scouting Report will cover here with Kansas, Jonathan Powell and
Speaker 1: Cinsire Harris are the wings that play along. Small West
Speaker 1: Virginia is just completely obliterated by injuries. It is really
Speaker 1: hard to know who is gonna play and how much
Speaker 1: they're gonna play.
Speaker 2: Just like this next guy. The West Virginia front court
Speaker 2: normally would feature six to eight Money Hansbury, who's averaging
Speaker 2: eleven and seven, but he is also hurt. We don't
Speaker 2: know if he's gonna play. Six to seven Eduardo andre
Speaker 2: is the center, and six to eight Toby o'canne. Good
Speaker 2: thing Nick's not on the show, gets plenty of run,
Speaker 2: averaging nine and five. The Mountaineers don't have a ton
Speaker 2: of height, instead rely on athleticism, which should be interesting
Speaker 2: the clash of styles against Hunter Dickinson, who's all height,
Speaker 2: no athleticism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: These are the type of basketball player.
Speaker 1: These are the type of teams that have given Dickinson
Speaker 1: and Kansas problems in the past, which means, hello, kJ Adams,
Speaker 1: they're gonna need you. West Virginia has really good defensive
Speaker 1: metrics against a underwhelming slate of opponents. Their slow pace
Speaker 1: and strong rim protection have carried them statistically. They shoot
Speaker 1: a ton of threes, averaging ummost thirty attempts per game
Speaker 1: as a team great, and they make a fine but
Speaker 1: not very good thirty five percent of them. They're also
Speaker 1: an excellent free throw shooting team at seventy eight percent,
Speaker 1: despite sound familiar not getting to the line much. Their
Speaker 1: post offense, ball protection, and rebounding numbers are all pretty
Speaker 1: mediocre and usually mediocre to poor ball handling teams coming
Speaker 1: into Allen Field House against the fast paced Kansas team,
Speaker 1: oh throwing the injuries, Kansas should roll if you're looking
Speaker 1: at the paper matchup, as long as Devrye doesn't play.
Speaker 1: But oh, what if I told you Kansas had tendency
Speaker 1: to not roll all the time when you expect them to.
Speaker 2: Except when they play an Alfield House against this team.
Speaker 2: Kansas is sixteen and oh against the Mountaineers and games
Speaker 2: played outside the state of West Virginia, including a perfect
Speaker 2: twelve to zero at Allen Field House, and that I
Speaker 2: believe that would make four and oh in the Sprint Center. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the team moble centers overall KU twenty one and seven
Speaker 2: against the couch Arsonists, and I.
Speaker 1: Don't think they're gonna have any couches to burn in
Speaker 1: this game. Although West Virginia is a total wild card.
Speaker 1: Like now, there's a lot of there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that are speculating that Devid is done for the
Speaker 1: year and we'll seek a medical red shirt. And it's
Speaker 1: hard to see West Virginia winning this game without him.
Speaker 1: He is just electric and it sucks not being able
Speaker 1: to watch him play. He's one of the most fun
Speaker 1: players to watch in the sport. Javon Small's pretty good,
Speaker 1: but Kansas has the defensive horses to handle him, and
Speaker 1: their front court just doesn't scream effective enough to get
Speaker 1: it done against hundred deck and sending kJ Adams. I
Speaker 1: like the ky you may start a little slow. I
Speaker 1: can also see Kansas stepping on them from the start. Overall,
Speaker 1: I will say Kansas wins by a comfortable twelve points.
Speaker 1: I'll say they win seventy nine to sixty seven. But
Speaker 1: there's about one hundred different ways this game could go.
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm pretty confident is Kansas is gonna
Speaker 1: win because Kansas has won like a billion straight conference openers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that streak continues. I think the
Speaker 2: streak against West Virginia in out house continues. I do
Speaker 2: think Kansas will flirt around a little bit here with
Speaker 2: West Virginia. I don't think this is going to be
Speaker 2: just like a runaway and hide from the jump kind
Speaker 2: of game. I think West Virginia will keep this close
Speaker 2: for a little while, but I think Kansas ultimately does
Speaker 2: win comfortably by eight to ten or so. I'll say
Speaker 2: they win seventy three sixty four.
Speaker 1: So not a game that has you either way feeling
Speaker 1: better or it's just kind of up. That's what I
Speaker 1: expected you right around the number and they're one to.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think it's about right.
Speaker 1: And I asked Cam to pick the game. He said
Speaker 1: Kansas by thirteen seventy six sixty three, which feels about right.
Speaker 1: This is Cam's first show that he's missed, so we
Speaker 1: had to send him to score the games to pick,
Speaker 1: and he responded instantly, we want to talk about somebody
Speaker 1: who's taking pick him Seriously, it's almost like he knows
Speaker 1: what the punishment is. Here are the other games beginning
Speaker 1: with Big twelve games, and none of these games sound
Speaker 1: like they should be Big twelve games. Number seventeen Cincinnati
Speaker 1: at Kansas State. This is my favorite matchup of these
Speaker 1: eight games because you have a team that's been better
Speaker 1: than expected against a team that's been worse than expected.
Speaker 1: But it's on the road in a loud environment, and
Speaker 1: it's a team that's not super familiar with the Big
Speaker 1: twelve against one that is in the past advantage underdog
Speaker 1: in this game. I think Kansas State is just that bad.
Speaker 1: Give me the Bearcats.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was gonna say your logic for all of
Speaker 2: that makes a lot of sense, and normally I would agree,
Speaker 2: but I think Case State sucks out loud, So give
Speaker 2: me the bear.
Speaker 1: They are they are dreadful, Like they are just dreadful
Speaker 1: right now, you cannot and if if they beat Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: it's not one you're gonna kick yourself for not picking
Speaker 1: right Like, no one should pick Kansas You nobody should
Speaker 1: bet anything, especially dollars, but anything like pick them on
Speaker 1: Kansas State until further notice. Number fifteen Houston at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: This feels like when Houston starts to remember who they are.
Speaker 1: I think they.
Speaker 2: Roll a close win for UH for Houston.
Speaker 1: Battle of teams with nine losses TCU at Arizona. They
Speaker 1: played a real entertaining NCAA tournament game a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. I predict this one is worse, and I
Speaker 1: think Arizona has an arrow that points up. At some
Speaker 1: point they beat the Horny Frogs.
Speaker 2: Same. I think they'll get this one. Tough place to play.
Speaker 1: This is a tougher one to pick too. Number three
Speaker 1: Iowa State at Colorado. I don't love loading up on
Speaker 1: road teams, but I think Colorado's got to prove you something.
Speaker 1: Iowa State's been here before, like they feel. We saw
Speaker 1: him win by twenty eight and MAUI. In this matchup,
Speaker 1: they have to be the pick.
Speaker 2: It will be a closer. I agree. I was about
Speaker 2: to say the same thing. I do not love just
Speaker 2: picking a bunch of road games road teams to win,
Speaker 2: I mean, but I will take a third one in
Speaker 2: the cyclones.
Speaker 1: I bet you won't pick a fourth one, at least
Speaker 1: not yet. Utah at number twenty five, Baylor bears big
Speaker 1: corracts UCF at Texas Tech. That's kind of tempting, but
Speaker 1: I don't think UCF is as good as the record shows,
Speaker 1: and Texas Tech's pretty good at home.
Speaker 2: Yep. Agree.
Speaker 1: And then Arizona State at BYU on New Year's Eve
Speaker 1: right after Kansas hopeful this game, but I'm going to overtime,
Speaker 1: so we can get onto this one boy, probably BYU
Speaker 1: and pro. All these games feel pretty straightforward, right, like
Speaker 1: like none of these were really that hard to think about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is definitely picked the favorite until
Speaker 2: further notice territory. So yeah, I'll take the well TPAU
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Which means we're all going four and four because we all.
Speaker 2: Picked the exact same eight games because k State and
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State will win. TCU beats Arizona at the buzzer
Speaker 2: in Colorado pulls off a shock.
Speaker 1: And Kansas well, the good thing they have the streak,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing keeping them going. Two other games,
Speaker 1: by the way, so we can get ten. I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do with pick them, because normally
Speaker 1: we picked five Big twelve games and five other games,
Speaker 1: and then it was seven and three, and now it's
Speaker 1: there's gonna be more than two other good games each week.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what I'm gonna do. But you
Speaker 1: get two this week, Number twenty two UCLA versus Number
Speaker 1: fourteen Gonzaga in Los Angeles. How confident are you in
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs?
Speaker 2: I'll take them. I'll take them here.
Speaker 1: I will too, I think they're good. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're going to be deserving of their seed, but I
Speaker 1: do think this is a good roster. And number eight
Speaker 1: Marquette at Providence. I will take Marquette on the road.
Speaker 1: Don't love it, Yeah, I was. I was tempted with Providence,
Speaker 1: but I will go Golden Eagles. Providence is probably the
Speaker 1: worst team in the Big East not named to Paul
Speaker 1: so far. So I mean, but that's like.
Speaker 2: In geometry, and they're like the thing of the thing
Speaker 2: is this. It's like, obviously the worst team in the
Speaker 2: Big East is always to Paul So at all.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Like Providence could lose one hundred in
Speaker 1: a row and they'd still be the second worst team
Speaker 1: in that conference. Like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about to Paul. No offense to.
Speaker 1: Paul so Kansas's next game will be on Sunday, not
Speaker 1: Saturday Sunday. If you're a Chiefs fan, you should be
Speaker 1: happy that it'll be Carson wins time and not Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes taking the field against the Broncos, because you're gonna
Speaker 1: need to be in stead on the ESPN Plus app
Speaker 1: to watch Kansas go to Orlando and play Central Florida
Speaker 1: where they have never lost, in the second game of
Speaker 1: the year to Central Florida on conference play, right never.
Speaker 2: I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: That was horrible. And I got on this stupid microphone
Speaker 1: after that game and said, hey, guys, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's a stinker. It happens.
Speaker 2: I think we all kind of did say that.
Speaker 1: That was like, and then West Virginia happened.
Speaker 2: That might actually be the first KU basketball game I
Speaker 2: ever watched. After I moved out of my parents' house.
Speaker 1: Hey, moved back in after that horrendous show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the key. That's the I'm just saying, they.
Speaker 1: Want a lot more whenever you still live with your parents.
Speaker 1: Landing actually correct, you are right, Well, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to take one for the team. All you have.
Speaker 2: Won zero national title since I moved out, and they
Speaker 2: moved to one two when I lived at home coincidence.
Speaker 1: All right, that's that's it. Cam, get down to Kansas City.
Speaker 1: You and I can go pick up Landon's bed. We'll
Speaker 1: drive the moving truck. We gotta get this done. Somebody's
Speaker 1: gotta let your parents know that you're coming back. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well then, and so will Bill self because that's what
Speaker 1: needs to happen. So we'll do another show late, probably
Speaker 1: late next week because they won't play till Sunday, and
Speaker 1: that'll be on the new year. You made it through
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four with Inside the Paint. That's our final
Speaker 1: podcast of the year, land and we won't talk till
Speaker 1: next year. That's crazy, right, ha ha.
Speaker 2: Man what Yeah, this is really original stuff.
Speaker 1: It's also nice to talk to you entering your last
Speaker 1: year because once you lose pick Him this year, there
Speaker 1: will be no twenty twenty six for Landon.
Speaker 2: So you're moving back in your house.
Speaker 1: Your your move back into the your parents house will
Speaker 1: be quite brief if you don't start picking games better.
Speaker 2: Hey, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: You might be moving again if you if you catch
Speaker 1: that gies. Yeah, this is Inside the Paint on a
Speaker 1: rock chalk blog.
Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Landreth. I'm Landing Fields all right.
Speaker 1: And the way you said that, you went up like
Speaker 1: you were expecting to cam to slam it home like
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to, like like leave that like door opens,
Speaker 1: like you were throwing a law. But there's no one
Speaker 1: there to slam it down.
Speaker 2: There's no threats like when someone plays notes on like
Speaker 2: a piano and they don't finish the sequence and just
Speaker 2: left open. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. But next time, Campbe'll be here
Speaker 1: to finish the duet. I guess that's what? What's that? What?
Speaker 1: What's duet? But with three? And I almost said thropple
Speaker 1: and I'm sure as hell is not a thropple. Yes, trio,
Speaker 1: that's the word that. That's the word that.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of, and so very different things.
Speaker 1: Oh man, hey, what what I t t Who wants that? Nobody?
Speaker 1: Absolutely nobody. We're coming Wayne, because Wayne is kind of
Speaker 1: sick in the head like the rest of us.
Speaker 2: Boy, Ryan, I'm glad this forty five minute shows an
Speaker 2: hour and a half. Goodbye, guys, Yeah, yeah,