WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:08.880 This is pod popular podcasts for the people. The Great 2 00:00:09.199 --> 00:00:14.919 Love Debate. It's the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate. 3 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:19.920 It's a great love debate. Hi, you guys. So I 4 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:23.000 don't do too many reruns. I don't do too many revisits. 5 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:25.760 But there's something I wanted to I want to revisit 6 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:27.239 that I did about a year ago. So if you 7 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:29.719 hear a reference on this podcast twenty twenty three, I'm 8 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:31.800 recording this in twenty twenty four, so if you're listening 9 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:34.000 in twenty twenty five, you're about a year after I 10 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:39.039 recorded this. But I could take this episode and repurpose 11 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:43.159 it using artificial intelligence, and a lot of people are 12 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:45.920 doing that with podcasts, which drives me nuts. Like the 13 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:48.719 part of the best part of podcasting is the intimate 14 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:52.399 relationship between the host and the listeners. And I don't 15 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.560 understand that. I don't understand where people just do a 16 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:58.000 bunch of episodes and then turn that into two hundred more. 17 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:02.240 I mean, there's some advantages into repurposing a different languages, 18 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.640 but doing it as a podcaster, I don't like it. 19 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:05.799 Doing it is dating. 20 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:06.840 Eh. 21 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:09.280 I want to revisit the episode I did about this 22 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:12.359 because It's come up a lot. It continues to evolve. 23 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:14.920 The conversation continues to go deeper on what is the 24 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:19.480 meaning of technology when it comes to dating. So we 25 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:21.439 are going to revisit an episode I did about a 26 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:23.159 year ago. I hope you still enjoy it. If you've 27 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.640 listened to it before, you're gonna enjoy it again. So 28 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:30.840 take some notes and enjoy this show. It's a great 29 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:34.319 love to hi again. Everyone is Brian Howie. Welcome to 30 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:38.640 The Great Love Debate, the world's number one dating and 31 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:42.239 a Relationship podcast since twenty and fifteen. I am here 32 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:46.079 in the very fine studios of pod Popular Podcasts for 33 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:50.079 the people. I am at the one in Boca Raton, Florida. 34 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:54.159 It's what they call the season here in Florida. If 35 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:55.760 you've been to you can make fun of Florida all 36 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:57.599 you want, But if you're in Florida during the right time, 37 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:01.200 Florida wins a lot of those times. I just got 38 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:04.680 to say, so today's one of those times. So if 39 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.719 you've been to Vegas recently, not to pivot from Florida 40 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:12.439 to Vegas, but as we record this, and as I 41 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:16.639 recorded this, it's the fourth quarter of twenty twenty three. 42 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:20.800 So if you're just coming aboard and you're listening to 43 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:25.199 this in the spring of twenty twenty seven, welcome, catch up, 44 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:28.680 Try to keep up, go back and listen everything, try 45 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:32.039 and get there. But if you've been to Vegas recently, 46 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:36.719 you'll notice a new attraction that's dotting the skyline. And 47 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:39.719 now I think it's actually the dominant attraction that is 48 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:43.120 dotting the skyline there. So for years, I think the 49 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:46.319 thing that caught your eye if you flew into Vegas 50 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:49.759 or drove in Vegas was the Stratosphere at the north 51 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:51.719 end of the Strip. And you can think what you 52 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:56.520 want about that is crappy architecture or a hotel or 53 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.719 as a tower, but it did dominate the landscape when 54 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:02.719 you were into town, no matter how you arrived into town. 55 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:06.400 And then I think the Luxor kind of did that. 56 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:09.560 The unique shape of it and the beam at the top. 57 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:13.120 You could see it from really far. You couldn't miss it, 58 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.199 even if it's a hotel that you probably don't want 59 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.680 to stay at. No shout out to the Luxor I 60 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:21.719 met a couple years ago. The link the ferris Wheel 61 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.639 popped up, and lots of cities have sort of those 62 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:26.919 giant ferris wheels now, and I do like them. I 63 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:28.560 don't like to ride them. I'll get into that in 64 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:31.199 a minute, but as a landmark, they're cool to look at. 65 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:33.960 Whether you're talking about the one in Seattle or the 66 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.639 one on the Santa Monica Pier or the London Eye. 67 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:39.439 You know, London's a thousand years old, and all of 68 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:41.479 a sudden, this modern ferris wheel is the thing that 69 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:45.680 you notice. But if you've been to Vegas recently, you've 70 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:52.400 definitely seen the sphere. It's definitely noticeable, this death star 71 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:56.439 of a giant ball, the structure that is rising up 72 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:59.280 just east of the Venetian And I was in Vegas 73 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:01.879 a lot during the last three or four years. I 74 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:05.439 spent a ton of COVID days in Vegas as this 75 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:09.439 thing was being built, and it seemingly took forever because 76 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:12.400 construction delayed and whatever. And it really looked like the 77 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.800 Death Star in Star Wars being constructed. And most of 78 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:18.240 the time as it was being built, you're wondering what 79 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:22.079 is this and what will it be, and what will 80 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:23.879 it look like when it's finished, what is the purpose 81 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:28.519 and function of this giant orb And now that it's open, 82 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:34.519 we have some answers. And it's not just a fifteen 83 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:37.639 seventeen thousand seat performance venue, which it is. It's this 84 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:42.639 spectacle of LED screens that can transport you anywhere in 85 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:46.120 the world or pretty much anywhere in the universe and 86 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.639 give you this galactic experience. Whether it's a concert or 87 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:54.279 an opera or a a theater show, it really has 88 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.120 this ability to transport you and to make you believe 89 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:59.040 you are somewhere at a certain time. So you're like, 90 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:00.560 why do I bring this up up? And why is 91 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.759 this big giant ball of LED screens relevant to love 92 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:10.680 dating relationships? Well, I got an email from a loyal listener, Jason, 93 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:13.079 so thank you for listening, and he sent me an 94 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:21.800 article on the subject of AI and particularly about AI girlfriends, 95 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:25.439 and he asked my thoughts on it. And I happened 96 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:27.519 to give this email while I was in shouting distance 97 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:31.199 of the Sphere in Vegas, and I thought, I can 98 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:33.439 go in the sphere and see a concert and the 99 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:39.040 technology of that concert and this structure will make it 100 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:43.199 look and sound and feel literally feel if you've been 101 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:46.000 in this thing like that concert was taking place on 102 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:50.480 a Tahitian beach. They had the ability to make inside 103 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:53.279 feel like outside, and outside could be inside. And this 104 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:59.399 AIVR combo platter will stimulate and I guess trick the 105 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.759 senses in experiencing pretty much anything and everything that the 106 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:07.360 performer or the promoters want you to. So, for those 107 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:09.279 of you who've listened to this podcast for a while, 108 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:11.360 not you newbies in twenty twenty seven, but those of 109 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:13.319 you've been for a while back in the very very 110 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.360 early days, maybe was in like the first fifteen or 111 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:20.160 twenty episodes of this show, we had on our friend 112 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:23.360 doctor Drew, and we also had him on our stage, 113 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:27.120 and he said this at the time. A couple of 114 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:30.040 times every time we talked to Drew about the state 115 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.480 of the date, he would say this, and I always 116 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.800 remember this, and I always reference this, And he felt 117 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:43.000 that the coming storm for relationships and for the love universe, 118 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:47.160 which we are a very tall small part of, was 119 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:51.319 that sometime in the pretty near future, you were going 120 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:55.000 to be able to put on a helmet dial up 121 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.759 somebody who looks like, I don't know, whatever your flavor is, 122 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:04.639 justin Timberlake or Jennifer Aniston, and some virtual version of 123 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:08.600 them was going to talk to you and interact with 124 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:15.680 you and give you a reasonably satisfying and borderline sexually 125 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:20.600 rewarding experience, and maybe not even borderline, depending on your 126 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.639 settings on this thing. And maybe it wouldn't even be 127 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:26.600 somebody famous. It might be a picture of someone you 128 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:28.839 had a crush on, who you know from Instagram, or 129 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:31.600 the girl from biology class or the guy from accounting. 130 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:35.439 Doctor Drews told us this back in twenty fifteen, that 131 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:37.560 you were going to be able to feed in this 132 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:41.720 image of them that you grabbed off the interwebs, and 133 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:45.079 suddenly this avatar was going to be someone or something 134 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:52.240 that you were suddenly on some level involved with. And 135 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:55.560 I remember when he said that, I thought, yikes, I 136 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:59.519 think I can see that happening. You know, if Tom 137 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:02.160 Hanks can get into a relationship with a volleyball and castaway, 138 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.360 I'm pretty sure there's all sorts of possibilities if you're 139 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:10.800 lonely enough or fed up enough. And I would always 140 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:12.920 repeat what Drew said at our live shows. I would 141 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:14.959 sort of warn the audience. I'd do this all over 142 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:18.120 the world, sort of to ramp up the urgency that 143 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.519 we'd better figure out real life dating, because if we 144 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:27.160 didn't this storm was coming. So I think the storm 145 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:32.120 is here. I think it's come ashore at least the 146 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.679 outer bands of the hurricane. And so what does it 147 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:39.960 mean and what do I think about it? As you 148 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:41.919 guys know me, I have some thoughts on it, and 149 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:43.480 there might not be the thoughts you think, but we 150 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:45.879 are going to get into some of those thoughts and 151 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.879 a lot more. We're and dive deep into the eye 152 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:55.639 of all all of it right after this, and we 153 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:58.919 are back real me. This is the real me, you know, 154 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:03.559 the coming uh the way they're using AI in podcasting 155 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:05.759 now and in the future. As if I if I 156 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:08.480 tell you, if I read an ad for something and 157 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:11.399 I'm like, hey, you guys, this is you know, go 158 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:13.720 to San Diego, Subaru and I do it once, They're 159 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:15.519 gonna be able to take me reading an ad once 160 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.240 and chop it up a thousand different ways with my 161 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.919 voice and my inflection to have it be whatever location 162 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:25.679 you're in, and you're gonna hear that. So this is me. 163 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:29.240 I don't think you replicate my personality gratefully, but on 164 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.000 stuff like that, there's a purpose for it. So anyway, 165 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.519 let me talk about this this AI thing. And I'm 166 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:39.799 not instantly like oh my god, it's terrible. Part of 167 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:44.639 me thinks like maybe there is a purpose here, so 168 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:46.240 let me let me get in first of all, too 169 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:51.440 like could this work? Or how realistic is this? Well 170 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:54.919 I am, despite my love for looking at Ferris wheels, 171 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:59.600 I am absolutely afraid of heights. I do not want 172 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:02.039 to drive a for a bridge. I do not want 173 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:06.679 to be in an airplane. Although I am a lot, 174 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:08.519 I don't want to go on your balcony. I don't 175 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:10.600 want anything. I have a real fear of heights and 176 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:14.039 about I don't know. Seven eight years ago, I was 177 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:18.159 at some I was at Disneyland and they have this 178 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:21.840 virtual reality ride. I don't even know it's still there. 179 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:25.919 It's called Soaring over California. And you put this helmet 180 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:29.039 on and you were strapped into a chair, and it 181 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:32.720 made you believe that you were hang gliding, like soaring 182 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:36.879 along the coastline down, you know, through Monterey and Big 183 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:38.519 Sir and all the way down the coast, that you 184 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:43.639 were somehow soaring over the coast of California. And I 185 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:47.240 could not convince my brain the entire time that I'm 186 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:51.639 strapped in this chair two inches off the ground that 187 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:55.879 it wasn't real. The same fear of heights was going 188 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:57.639 on the whole time. I couldn't wait to get off 189 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:01.399 this ride. I could not make my brain separate the 190 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:05.159 fact that this was not real, you know. So I 191 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:13.120 think about that now, and if you are able to 192 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:16.440 take away some of the the worry and the pain 193 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.399 and the bad parts of dating again, this is qualified. 194 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:22.360 We're good in all of this. It's never going to 195 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:25.679 be better, so get that. But I'm talking about how 196 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:31.200 realistic is it and how it really affects everything. So 197 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:36.039 if you're able to create a scenario where the person 198 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:38.480 you are talking to, this AI version of your dream 199 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:43.559 girl or fantasy guy, is gonna respond to you when 200 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.399 you want them to respond to you, and they're gonna 201 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.799 interact with them the way you want to interact with them, 202 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:53.120 and they're gonna say good morning, good night, I love you, 203 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.440 I miss you, all of the things that you are 204 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.879 out there in the world trying to find somebody to 205 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:04.840 say to you every single day. I'm not so sure 206 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:09.600 that it's not better. I'm not so sure that it 207 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.600 doesn't have a place, and I'm not so sure that 208 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:15.399 a lot of people aren't gonna make it as a 209 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:21.480 choice because yeah, it's not better, but for some people 210 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:25.000 the juice isn't worth the squeeze and they just want 211 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:28.399 to stabilize their emotions. So if you're in a situation 212 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.080 where you have been hurt, hurt hurt, or rejected, rejected, rejected, 213 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:37.200 or somebody just isn't even answering you, And a big 214 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:43.159 challenge with dating in the twenty twenties is that people 215 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.240 just don't respond. You could be online swiping and messaging 216 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:49.960 for hours, days, months and not even get a response. 217 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:52.799 And to not being able to take that fundamental step 218 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:55.639 and have that level of control in trying to make 219 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:59.679 a connection with somebody, I can see how frustrating that is. 220 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:04.440 And many many people we've been all we're all sort 221 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:08.279 of societally awkward, and we're self centered, and we're introverted, 222 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:12.240 and we're just not as good at fundamental human interactions 223 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:16.159 as we used to be. So if somebody's going to 224 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:20.559 be like God, that seems so real and that person 225 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.679 is going to you know, you got a roombo vacuuming 226 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:26.600 your floor, you have no problem with that. But if 227 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:29.639 you have somebody or something I don't even know what 228 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:37.120 to refer to. This AI person as and an intelligent 229 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.919 artificial version of some not just physically what they look like, 230 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:46.039 but they're giving you the needs that you want. No 231 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:49.240 offense to dogs and dog lovers out there, it's a 232 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:51.919 lot of what we're getting out of our pets. We 233 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.279 are imagining a relationship that maybe that pet doesn't have 234 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:57.879 with you. Maybe they're licking you and barking you and 235 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:00.000 coming to you for an entirely different set of reasons. 236 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:03.879 Then you think, but it doesn't matter, because all you 237 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:05.879 really care about is what you're getting back and what 238 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:09.279 the outcome is and this perceived relationship that you have 239 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:15.600 with your animal. And so those types of feelings, I 240 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:20.840 think they can be translated, for better or worse, to 241 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:24.080 something that isn't real. There's a lot of people in 242 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:28.440 actual relationships who are pretending that that actual relationship is 243 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.240 something that it's really not. So is it that big 244 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:36.960 of a leap to dial up a girl who is 245 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:40.399 going to give you in terms of attention and affection 246 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:44.919 and compliments and stimulation and everything. If you're just going 247 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:47.440 to create one rather than going out in the world 248 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:50.080 and not being able to find her and feeling hurt 249 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:53.120 by her or whatever. For the tenth time, it's not 250 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:57.399 going to be better. But in this gamified society that 251 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:00.399 we live in, you know, the reason why especially men 252 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:04.080 are so hooked on video games is they understand that 253 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:06.200 if they do certain things and they put in certain 254 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:08.200 data and they make certain moves, that they're going to 255 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:11.879 be rewarded by winning that game. And there's a reason 256 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:14.679 why so many men are addicted to porn that they're like, oh, 257 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.080 I can just dial up whatever nudity of whatever my 258 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:20.559 fetish or flavor is, and I can get that. So 259 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.320 if you're combining the two things, if you're combining sort 260 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:31.000 of video games and nudity, I could see if you 261 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:32.600 just want to be me, to be honest and no 262 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.399 judgment for people, I could see how that would have 263 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:39.679 not just a little appeal, a lot of appeal. You're 264 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:41.639 not spending that much of money, you're not spending that 265 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:47.559 much down emotional time, and you're taking a lot of 266 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:51.480 the risk and a lot of the pitfalls out of dating. 267 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:53.919 So is there is there a way that you could, 268 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.120 at least in terms of getting out of a bad 269 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:01.320 relationship or getting over some heart break or whatever, have 270 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:07.080 an artificial partner to make you get your confidence back. 271 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:10.840 I think so. But that's where the danger lies is 272 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:14.279 because at what point are you like, oh I'm good here, 273 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:20.360 I'm just going to go, you know. I mean, these 274 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:22.799 aren't mannequins. We're talking about what was that movie with 275 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:26.440 them with Ryan Gosling back in the day, Lars and 276 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:28.039 the Real Girl whatever. He kind of fell in love 277 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:29.960 with the mannequin. And this isn't a volleyball either. These 278 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.879 are things that are going to understand your personality and 279 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.320 give you the kind of feedback that you're going to 280 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:40.039 give and a lot of a relationship is built upon feedback. 281 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.399 Am I getting? I love you too? Am I getting pleased? 282 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:48.679 Thank you? Am I getting you had? How is your day? 283 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:51.120 Are you getting? And so if you're able to program 284 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:54.279 these things in, I mean that is the coming storm. 285 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:57.519 You know that maybe that is the end of the 286 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:00.919 human race. You know, people thought that the artificial intelligence 287 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:02.559 was so dangerous because it would be like in the 288 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:05.920 movies and the robots would attack us, they would physically 289 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:08.400 attack us. I'm not sure that's it. I think the 290 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:13.880 way it's gonna really I'll say, hinder society. Mean, it's 291 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:16.960 gonna stop the breeding because people aren't gonna go on 292 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:18.319 to be in the same room as each other. They 293 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:22.400 can get ninety percent of the experience with one hundred 294 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:25.319 percent less of the risk and the downfall. A lot 295 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.000 of people are gonna choose that. If you're a fifteen 296 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.119 year old boy in high school right now, you are 297 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:33.720 not gonna want to rejection or the money, or you 298 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:35.839 just gonna choose this, and you're gonna say, oh, it's 299 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:37.400 not as good, it's not as good, But he doesn't 300 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:39.839 know it's not as good. If you've never had the 301 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:44.720 real version of whoever your fantasy is, you're not missing 302 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:46.519 you don't feel you're missing out on anything. You're gonna 303 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:49.359 be like, this is amazing, this is a great experience. 304 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:51.720 You go to that concert inside the sphere that I 305 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:54.160 talked about before, and maybe you've never been to the 306 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.240 beaches in Thailand, but if you look up at in 307 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:59.440 the arena of what this is, you're like, this is awesome. 308 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.240 It's good enough. If you don't know the real thing, 309 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.039 all you know is this is risk free. This is 310 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:08.359 an avenue I can go down. And this is something 311 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.240 that a lot of people are doing right now. They 312 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:17.200 are figuring out artificial versions of what their fantasies are 313 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:21.000 because they don't believe the fantasy can ever become a reality. 314 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:27.720 And women are doing this too, and so is it scary. Yeah. 315 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.519 I'm not sitting here trying to advocate for it. I'm 316 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.519 sitting here trying to tell you guys that I get it. 317 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:37.160 I can see the appeal, and I don't think people 318 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:39.559 are crazy who are going down this road and looking 319 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:41.839 for some sort of stimuli that's going to satisfy a 320 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.839 part of them and isn't getting satisfied any other way. 321 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:49.119 So the scary part is that it's going there's going 322 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:52.480 to be a point where the technology gets so good 323 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:59.400 and so realistic and so emotionally satisfying that people really 324 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:02.079 are going to the parachute on real dating and they're 325 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:05.880 gonna be like, this is fucking fine, and I got 326 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:09.000 a whole lot more. Guy's gonna be like, I got 327 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:11.039 a whole lot more money in my pocket and I 328 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:13.480 don't have to sit there staring at a phone that's 329 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:16.240 never gonna ring and waiting for her to message me back. 330 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.400 And the girl's gonna be like, you know what, I 331 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:20.880 don't get my heart broken. He's not a dick, is whatever. 332 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:23.799 And you're going to be able to be tricked the 333 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:27.079 way the Disneyland ride tricked me. I could not convince 334 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:30.880 myself it wasn't real. And I think that's what's gonna happen. 335 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:35.640 And I think we're there now, you know, and we 336 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:39.519 are at this very very early stages of it. 337 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:39.799 You know. 338 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:43.599 The twenty twenty three the actors and actresses and writers 339 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:45.960 in Hollywood all went on strike because they're worried that 340 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:48.440 a lot of them were going to be replaced by 341 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:51.200 by AI. And I got news for you, A lot 342 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:57.319 of them are. A lot of it is replica, replicable, replicable, replicatable. 343 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:03.319 You can right now type in like fifteen different things 344 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:08.160 and get a Hallmark Christmas movie scripts bat out to 345 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:13.640 you in fifteen seconds because those beats are always the same, 346 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:16.960 and the technology is there to replace the writer. So 347 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:18.839 if you could do the same thing, and those those 348 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:21.680 Hallmark Christmas movies that they run every single night, starting 349 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:25.839 and starting at like I don't know, Columbus day, they're 350 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:28.920 always emotionally satisfying for the viewer. Well, if you can 351 00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:31.000 do the same thing, and you're now the star of 352 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.480 the Hallmark movie, and this AI is gonna spit out 353 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:36.880 a version of your life that is gonna be emotionally 354 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:41.640 and possibly even physically satisfying enough for you. I'm not 355 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:44.279 sure you're going to the bars. I'm not sure you're 356 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:47.079 going to the dating sites. I'm not sure you're gonna 357 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:48.799 ask your friends and hook you up. I'm not sure 358 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:51.279 any of this is so I'm not bringing this up 359 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:54.000 as a doomsday warning. That was what we said back 360 00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:55.599 in the day, and that's what doctor Drew said to us. 361 00:20:55.640 --> 00:21:01.160 What I'm saying is, I can see why. I can 362 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:05.519 see the short term benefit. I can see there could 363 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:09.400 be some healing to doing something like this. The danger 364 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:12.920 is if this becomes the norm, if the artificial intelligence 365 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:15.920 or the virtual reality becomes the actual reality, and the 366 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:19.920 artificial becomes real and this is what flips and everybody's 367 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:24.160 doing it, which might happen. We are all connected to 368 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:28.079 a device. You know, You're not just turn on your 369 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:30.240 phone to make a call. You turn on your phone 370 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:33.319 to listen to me. You're turning your phone to take 371 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.079 a picture, You're turning your phone into this this this Well, 372 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:37.640 maybe you're turning on your phone to say how to 373 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:41.039 your girlfriend, and your girlfriend is in your phone. Your 374 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:47.480 girlfriend is your phone I can see it, So if 375 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:50.839 you want my thoughts on it, I think we're here. 376 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:54.480 I think it's only going to be more of a presence. 377 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:59.279 I think you need to do the work emotionally and 378 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:03.119 otherwise so this does not become either the crutch or 379 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:05.960 the off ramp to a real dating life. I think 380 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:09.039 you have to always think about what can this thing 381 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:13.559 not provide to me? No offense? Do you artificial intelligence? Listeners? 382 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.400 Didn't mean to call you a thing, but you know 383 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:18.599 what I'm getting at. I think you have to take 384 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.160 the inventory now on like what exactly do I want 385 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:25.759 out of a relationship? If you just want cuddling, yeah, 386 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.720 I mean, you know, those mannequins are pretty lifelike too. 387 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:31.319 A lot of people really just want the body pillar, 388 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:35.279 a lot of people want the dog. And you have 389 00:22:35.319 --> 00:22:37.559 to really take emotional stock of like what would my 390 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.480 best relationship work look like? And then I think you'll 391 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:46.519 see that isn't something that can be artificially replicated. It 392 00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:50.119 is not something that can exist in a virtual, uniform universe. 393 00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:51.920 And I think you have to focus on that. I 394 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.480 think you have to continuously keep your eye on the 395 00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:59.000 prize when it comes to this stuff. But your term, Like, 396 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:01.599 I think it is a reality, whether you're going in 397 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:06.359 and seeing a concert with ten million little led lights 398 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:08.680 that are going to transport you and your brain and 399 00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:11.920 your date somewhere where you probably never imagine you could be, 400 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:16.960 or if it's somebody having a conversation with you, which 401 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:19.079