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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Nightmare USA podcast. Using Steven Thrower's tone

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<v Speaker 1>as our map, join us as we explore the underbelly

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<v Speaker 1>of America, one regional horror film at a time. I'm Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sim In our fourth episode, we're checking our sense

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<v Speaker 1>of reality at the door as we enter the fairytale

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<v Speaker 1>world of George Berry and his phantasmagorical creation Deathbed, The

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<v Speaker 1>Bed That Eats. Typically, I would start out the episode

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<v Speaker 1>with some sort of introduction I've written, but after watching

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<v Speaker 1>this film and staring at a blank page for about

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<v Speaker 1>a week, I decided to just let Stephen Thrower do

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<v Speaker 1>the talking here and his intro to his chapter on Deathbed,

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<v Speaker 1>Thrower writes, George Berry's bizarre and beguiling Deathbed is a

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<v Speaker 1>fairytale horror store, merging surreal humor, private poetry, and a

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<v Speaker 1>blithe disregard for the essential strangeness of its own ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>Rough around the edges, off and away in its own world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a precious slice of low budget madness that reminds

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<v Speaker 1>us what we've lost in the current over polished and

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<v Speaker 1>creatively impoverished horror genre. Thurrow wrote these words sometime between

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one and two thousand and seven Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty years later, has anything changed in the horror landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had a time of what's been described as elevated horror.

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<v Speaker 1>But does a Deathbed remain as singular of a film

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<v Speaker 1>today as it did fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago, if not even more? This is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>movies I always try to get people to watch. This

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<v Speaker 2>is why I'm very excited that you watched it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>such if you hear the title, you're like, well, this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be like a trauma movie or like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a sub micro budget streaming movie with a

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<v Speaker 2>title like that, and it's and to be confronted with

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<v Speaker 2>a movie that has aspirations to being I guess an

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<v Speaker 2>elevator horror movie and being an art movie without being

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<v Speaker 2>the cheesy aspects of that. It's a surprising film, Like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a it's way deeper than it has any right

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<v Speaker 2>to be. And that's what I love about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had not seen this before I watched it

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<v Speaker 1>last week, and that was my preconceived notion, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>was that, you know, is this gonna be silly? This morning?

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<v Speaker 1>I watched Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, for example. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that was kind of the thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking it was gonna be, like in a silly,

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<v Speaker 1>spoofy sort of thing. It is not.

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<v Speaker 2>It is no.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it has some comedic moments for sure. Watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, is this gothic? And then yeah, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, wait, maybe it's more like a fairy tale.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this folk horror? It's all of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, it's like a hippie movie. It's a regional movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It does have some funny moments in it. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>a bed gets up to a bismol because it's sick

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<v Speaker 2>at one point, which is one of my favorite moments

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of my notes. I have the bed drinking

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<v Speaker 1>peptobysmal dead emoji I put in because it just floored me.

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<v Speaker 2>But it also has like the scene where it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>eating and you see the wine pouring out underwater and

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<v Speaker 2>like chicken floating, and and then the piece is rising

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<v Speaker 2>back up to the bed. It's like surprisingly effective. And

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<v Speaker 2>then it has such a weird, deep like art side

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<v Speaker 2>to it, with like there's August despair drawing on the

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<v Speaker 2>wall at one point, and even the origin of the

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<v Speaker 2>bed ties in to different artists. It's a confounding movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was so excited that I got to be

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<v Speaker 2>friends with George Barry briefly, like right before he died.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you got me in that article, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean I devoured it like the like the

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<v Speaker 1>bed devoured that chicken leg. You know, this is great and.

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<v Speaker 2>He would like he, uh, this is the only movie

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<v Speaker 2>he ever did. He actually ran a bookstore in Again

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time and he sent me I actually

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<v Speaker 2>have it on my coffee table, a book of horror

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<v Speaker 2>movie posters that he thought I would like and just

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<v Speaker 2>was like A loved movies. And in the interview, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was so excited because I always think about who

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<v Speaker 2>was the audience for Andy Milligan when Andy Milligan was

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<v Speaker 2>actually making movies, and it was George Barry. He said

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<v Speaker 2>he would drive across state lines to Ohio if he

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<v Speaker 2>saw a drive in that was playing Butt Thirsty. Butcher's

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<v Speaker 2>is the one he caught out to me, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said like he looked everywhere for it and then when

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<v Speaker 2>he found it, because I always think like in that time,

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<v Speaker 2>were there people like us obsessed about these movies? And

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<v Speaker 2>he made me feel good he said, yes, there was,

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<v Speaker 2>like I had a whole group of people that we

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<v Speaker 2>hunted down anything weird and tried to see at the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love that part of that interview. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>leapt out to me. Whenever, you know, he said you

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<v Speaker 1>were watching Andy Milligan and he goes off on the

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<v Speaker 1>story of oh, going out to find Andy Milligan as

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<v Speaker 1>someone who did not discover Andy Milligan into the last

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<v Speaker 1>five years or so, and for you know, Milligan was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this figure of you know, I watch him,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone says he's bad, you know, or the movies are bad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very negative. And then as soon as I watched one,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first one I watched was A House of Seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Bells, which is a weird place to start.

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<v Speaker 1>With Milligan probably, and we'll get more into Milligan later

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<v Speaker 1>because I know Blood for sure is in this book,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a film I absolutely love. Yeah, but just like,

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<v Speaker 1>what a time to be out there hunting for drive

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<v Speaker 1>ins that are showing Andy Milligan films first run Andy Milligan.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to have been there and did not know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no internet to connect people or to like

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<v Speaker 2>collect this info, do you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 2>in this info exists either in print, if then and

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<v Speaker 2>then within people's heads. And that's what I'm obsessed with.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk a lot on the Driving Asylund show that

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<v Speaker 2>we do off we look at a lot of the ads.

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<v Speaker 2>What would it be like if you went to a theater,

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<v Speaker 2>Like some of the stuff we want from the early

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<v Speaker 2>sixties was still playing in Driving until like eighty five

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<v Speaker 2>eighty six, And it's like you might see a brand

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<v Speaker 2>new first run movie and you might see a regional

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<v Speaker 2>movie that has played a million times under like a

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<v Speaker 2>completely different title. Like in Detroit, Messiah Evil played as

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<v Speaker 2>dead people and it played as a return of the

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<v Speaker 2>living Dead. I'm sure I said that title wrong. Bill

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<v Speaker 2>come back and hit me for it, but like it played,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know, right when Don came out, they

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<v Speaker 2>even had a whole poster campaign that look just like

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<v Speaker 2>Don for Messiah of Evil. And I can't imagine if

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<v Speaker 2>you're going thinking you're going to see another Dawn of

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<v Speaker 2>the Dead and you get Messiah Evil, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>completely different tonal shift. It's the same thing as this,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you came into this movie thinking you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get a goofy horror movie, you're getting something more.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I love you know, I mean like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like unexpected of what you're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think Messiah of Evil is a good

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<v Speaker 1>comparison film for Deathbed because it is so different from

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<v Speaker 1>what you would expect, and it does have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mass Evil another film that we'll get into because that's

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<v Speaker 1>in the book, but you know, it has those gothic undertones.

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<v Speaker 1>In that case, it's the gothic of the California Gothic

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, people going out west and the rush

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<v Speaker 1>and such. But so I don't know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where to start with this movie. Where do you want

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<v Speaker 2>So I originally found this movie. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I got one of the bootlegs or not. Because the

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<v Speaker 2>amazing thing is like George Berry made this in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>It came out in seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy seven, is to copyright date right, Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 1>did like about four years of post production on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it can't Originally he wanted to find out

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<v Speaker 2>when the VHS boom happened, he was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I could recoup some of the money from Deathbed

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<v Speaker 2>finally the thirty grand that I spent on it myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So he had met with a distributor and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to put professional titles on it, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cost this amount of money, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, there's I'm already thirty grand down. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to put another time, and I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was about ten grand, which is a ton today, much

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<v Speaker 2>less then I'm gonna put ten grand down to do

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<v Speaker 2>titles and then maybe finding a distributor that screws me over.

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<v Speaker 2>So he said no. That company kept the film bootlegged

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<v Speaker 2>it as Portland Films release it only in the UK

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<v Speaker 2>and overseas, but somehow a copy ended up in a

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<v Speaker 2>Uni Mart, which is a like a seven to eleven

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<v Speaker 2>kind of chain around Pittsburgh, and that's where I first

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<v Speaker 2>saw it because it was on the shelf. And I

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<v Speaker 2>would always wrint movies. A lot of folks I'd ran

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<v Speaker 2>in movies with were like nascent mister science theater kids

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<v Speaker 2>right where they were love to make fun of movies

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, stuff out during them, and I'm I

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<v Speaker 2>do that sometimes, but I also like love these movies

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm very defensive of them. So seeing that movie

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing it for the first time is like, this

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<v Speaker 2>movie is so strange and so wonderful, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want anyone talking over it, like I don't want someone

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<v Speaker 2>to destroy it, and it just always stuck in my head.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, I wrote about it on the site,

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<v Speaker 2>and then one day I just got an email from

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<v Speaker 2>George Barry's like, hey, thanks for watching the movie. Glad

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<v Speaker 2>you liked it. I'm like, oh my god, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to this person. So I said, oh, would

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<v Speaker 2>you be one to do an interview? He say, how

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<v Speaker 2>about tomorrow? And I was like yeah, like mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then next thing I know, I'm on the phone

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<v Speaker 2>talking to the guy and I'm getting to ask all

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<v Speaker 2>these questions about you know, Deathbed. What's amazing to me

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<v Speaker 2>is like this was shot in the same woods as

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<v Speaker 2>Within the Woods, the original sixteen milimeter version of Evil Dead,

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<v Speaker 2>so like they weren't far apart from each other, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was really around the same time some of this

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<v Speaker 2>was being filmed. So the personal connection I have to it,

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<v Speaker 2>beyond getting to meet George is the Guardwood mansion that's

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<v Speaker 2>in it. My father in law had died like the

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<v Speaker 2>year that I watched this the first time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was obsessed with the Gardwood manor because Gardwood Mansion. He

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<v Speaker 2>actually did security there because my father in law had

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<v Speaker 2>a wildlife. He did a lot of security for rock

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<v Speaker 2>bands and biker gangs and stuff. And the Garwood Mansion

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<v Speaker 2>where this is filmed was owned by the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>invented the modern garbage truck, Garwood, and he was incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>rich and he decided to stop working and be a

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<v Speaker 2>speedboat racer. So he built this giant mansion on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>out on Lake Michigan, and it was so big. He

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<v Speaker 2>hated his wife and they had a child together. They

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<v Speaker 2>through tunnels under the house by servants, and whenever both

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<v Speaker 2>his parents died, Garwood's son was like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with that house and let it fall

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<v Speaker 2>into disrepair. So by the time that Georgia and the

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<v Speaker 2>film the rest of the crew got there, they were

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<v Speaker 1>So for all of these these movies, and that's one

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<v Speaker 2>like Joe Cocker played there, Van Morrison, tons of bands

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<v Speaker 2>and it was still in working order. But George said

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<v Speaker 2>if they could and the power kept going out. So

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<v Speaker 2>then when the you know, the owners of the house came,

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<v Speaker 2>Luckily we got most of the footage and there like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>keep filming. If you want to destroy some stuff, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to break some things, go ahead. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed most of the house. Now this is all, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful property that's been sold and broken up. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like you said, of seeing these places that

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<v Speaker 2>not anymore. They were there when this was filmed. So

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<v Speaker 2>these movies, especially the regionals, become like a document of

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<v Speaker 2>these places that we'll completely differ now have become homogenized,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? Versus in the same

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<v Speaker 2>way that films are, and now we have this as

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and some of the films they'll have locations that

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<v Speaker 1>you can still visit and some are no longer with us,

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<v Speaker 2>My friend Joe Rude actually stayed overnight in the house

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<v Speaker 2>room Don't Go in the Basement, and he did a

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<v Speaker 2>the night. It's terrifying. It's frightening because it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the stuff from the film, but like the

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<v Speaker 2>people that were there, they're like, oh yeah, do whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a movie was made here. And he's like

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<v Speaker 2>trying not to get fan boyish, but he's like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, is it okay if I stick around a film?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, do whatever you want? Like these sites are.

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<v Speaker 2>I was think about Monrobial Mall. There's people that go

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<v Speaker 2>at everything like do you know what I mean, like

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<v Speaker 2>mumbling to themselves like just in awe that they're in

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<v Speaker 2>this church of horror movies and I love that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love don't go in the basement. Is that in

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<v Speaker 1>this book? I know in their SF Brown Rigg movie

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<v Speaker 1>that's in this book? I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe my friend Bred did the book Taxis Schlock, which

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<v Speaker 2>like it's, uh, I'm fascinated by his movie. Same as

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<v Speaker 2>like this is what I love. Like why people don't

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<v Speaker 2>to them expecting a traditional horror movie, and like Andy

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<v Speaker 2>Milligan's movies are mostly about people that hate each other,

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, they might be vampires and they might be werewolves,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're really just a family that wants to kill

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<v Speaker 2>each other. Like they're just angry and yelling and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just the It's what it's like going to a dysfunctional

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<v Speaker 2>family Christmas, but everybody is super nap.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think that's cathodic for me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Mother's so horrible. Okay, yeah, I can relate

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<v Speaker 1>it in real life. I can just see it on

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<v Speaker 1>the movie and have a release from that and be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I also love that, like sometimes in Ny Melgan movies,

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<v Speaker 2>we're asked to believe that it's the eighteen hundreds, but

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<v Speaker 2>we can see traffic like modern traffic and hear car

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<v Speaker 2>horns and do you know what I mean? And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh right, It's like these movies encourage make believe, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that's what I love about them, versus like a

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<v Speaker 2>modern movie where everything is glossy and cleaned up. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about it because I watched I found watch

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<v Speaker 2>back Rooms last night and I didn't hate it, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I was, it's fine. It's you know, it's got

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<v Speaker 2>some cool shots, it's got some coitias, but it's all

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that existed previously on the internet, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like these creepypastas, it's fine. Like Messia

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<v Speaker 2>of Evil is like a liminal space movie to me

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<v Speaker 2>that it feels and like in a location that can

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<v Speaker 2>exist but also shouldn't exist, Like with all the paintings

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<v Speaker 2>in the room. And this movie is too like why

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<v Speaker 2>do people just roll into this mansion and they're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>there's like this canopy bed and this fireplace and all

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<v Speaker 2>these paintings, Like all right, no, we should just sit

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<v Speaker 2>down in this bed and have a picnic. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>love the decisions in this movie. I'm interested to see what.

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<v Speaker 1>You I mean. I just let I have not stopped

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it, and for really look now, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>just absolutely loved it. And like I said, only I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just adjectives have come around and be singular. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing else really out there like it. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>read the letterbox synopsis because in the letterbox synopsis is

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<v Speaker 2>This one TV Guide synopsis when it's like horror movie

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<v Speaker 2>a bet eats.

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<v Speaker 1>People, right, this one sums it up, okay, And well

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<v Speaker 1>the tagline and I don't know if this movie had

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<v Speaker 1>a real tagline or if this was retrofitted, but it says,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to survive, don't go near the bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Even that didn't help you. We'll get into that, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bed will get you even if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>near it. But in a one room stone building near

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<v Speaker 1>a dilapidated mansion. A demon has condemned an artist to

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<v Speaker 1>living behind a painting in a state of limbo, forcing

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<v Speaker 1>him to watch in vain as trespassers lives are taken

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<v Speaker 1>by a ravenous bed. I think that sums it up

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good the plot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I like if you told me, hey, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>love this movie about aesthetic artist Aubrey Beardsley, who is

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<v Speaker 2>a real person who was trappy eye of painting because

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<v Speaker 2>and it can't get over it. Okay, I give me that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Aubrey Beardsley since you brought it. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I was watching this film, I did not have

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of recollection or cognizant idea of this artist

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<v Speaker 1>being a real person. Yeah, it was an artist. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some paintings or or I guess they aren't paintings,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are illustrations that are on the wall of

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<v Speaker 1>He can see out into the room and no one

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<v Speaker 1>And so then when I was reading the chapter in

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<v Speaker 1>Mirror USA, it talks about Aubrey Beardsley, who was someone

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<v Speaker 1>I had never heard of before.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>So my daughter is she has a degree in art

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<v Speaker 1>history and she just graduated. She has a art history

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<v Speaker 1>in English, and she's my art historian. I try to

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<v Speaker 1>get my money's worth from the college expenses I paid

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<v Speaker 1>for her. If the world is not going to give

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<v Speaker 1>can give me some knowledge. So I asked her, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know this artist Aubrey Beardsley And she's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the Art Nouveaux, and you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>and he was kind of like to Lusila Trek with

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<v Speaker 1>that crew. But he made a print. One of my

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<v Speaker 1>salom the Oscar Wild Play. She knew a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>him to me, but she was like, why did why him?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like he's not as far as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially Art Nouveau. You know, he's no tellusla trek or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's is he kind of obscure. He died young,

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<v Speaker 1>so he didn't have a huge body of work. He

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty five when he died of consumption. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, why are you asking me this anyway? I said, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know the movie Deathbed? The Bed that Heat?

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, no, I sure don't. And she said,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're talking about deathbed, Oscar Wilde has one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most famous deathbed quotes when he's on his

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<v Speaker 1>deathbed and he looks around and he said, either these

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<v Speaker 1>drapes go or I do, and then he died. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like me, you know, maybe that would be a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But Oscar Wilde on his.

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<v Speaker 2>Deathbed, Oscar Wilde said that Beardsley had a face like

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<v Speaker 2>a silver hatchet and grass green hair, and when he wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that's true. I want to see a color picture

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Is this like, is there another movie with

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<v Speaker 2>With oh the Boy or something? Yeah? Yeah. Also about

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly he dated his sister for a long time and

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<v Speaker 2>they had a child together that was silborn.

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<v Speaker 1>This Mayriment is England, so yeah, there's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that may be too far even for England. A cousin,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, you know, my sister may be going too

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<v Speaker 2>What's wild though, It's like line all the way up

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<v Speaker 2>until nineteen sixty six a gallery in London got raided

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<v Speaker 2>for exhibiting his artwork, like you know, forty years after

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<v Speaker 2>he died, so like.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they their censorship in England as also crazy, of course, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I had explained the Ninja Turtles not being called Ninja

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<v Speaker 2>Turtles in England because the word ninja is not allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to be used nor in nunchucks, so they're called teenage

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<v Speaker 2>Mutant hero Turtles and they've re recorded every episode. They

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<v Speaker 2>also had to reanimate the one that has Mike that

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<v Speaker 2>has the nunchucks. Uh, so he doesn't have those, he

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<v Speaker 2>has no weapon in the uh in the British versions

419
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<v Speaker 2>of Ninja Turtles, which feels insane, but I guess all

420
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<v Speaker 2>the Bruce Lee movies were also not allowed to be

421
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<v Speaker 2>shown either because they were too violent. Okay, because it's

422
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<v Speaker 2>easier to get nunchucks than a gun in England. So yeah,

423
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<v Speaker 2>England's a strange place. Forget what else?

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<v Speaker 1>Had another thought about Beardsley, Well, why Why? Did we

425
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<v Speaker 1>find out why he used him? In the chapter, Durer

426
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<v Speaker 1>kind of asks him why beards Lee, and he's like,

427
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe the actor just kind of looked

428
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<v Speaker 1>like him. He didn't really have a good answer. Did

429
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<v Speaker 1>you find anything about why?

430
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<v Speaker 2>No?

431
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<v Speaker 1>I really artist?

432
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<v Speaker 2>I really wish I could ask him. I know he

433
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<v Speaker 2>was really into art Nouveau's stuff though, and that a

434
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<v Speaker 2>lot of the books and stuff we were talked about

435
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<v Speaker 2>was that era of artwork. So I'm wondering if he

436
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<v Speaker 2>just knew this artist and it would be easier. Here's

437
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<v Speaker 2>what I like about it today is that, like you said, well,

438
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<v Speaker 2>obviously this isn't a real artist, and then you find

439
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<v Speaker 2>out that it is, and you also find out that

440
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<v Speaker 2>the strange life that this guy lived was makes sense

441
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<v Speaker 2>to be in this also, like a couple two months

442
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<v Speaker 2>before he died, he converted to Catholicism and asked for

443
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<v Speaker 2>all his work to be destroyed because it was so sexual,

444
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<v Speaker 2>and he made two of his friends promise not to

445
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<v Speaker 2>sell any of his art, and of course they did.

446
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<v Speaker 2>They sold. They sold it like crazy after he died

447
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<v Speaker 2>and didn't listen to him, So that sure, he feels

448
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<v Speaker 2>like someone that could be cursed or haunted, especially dying

449
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<v Speaker 2>young and being part of a movement. But like you said,

450
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<v Speaker 2>not being done to soil Tracker, Oscar Wad or any

451
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<v Speaker 2>of these other characters, Like he's not going to show

452
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<v Speaker 2>up in uh in a movie, do you know what

453
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<v Speaker 2>I mean? Like or being the lyrics lady.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where's the biopic Beardsley biopic?

455
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<v Speaker 2>This is as close as we're ever going to get,

456
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<v Speaker 2>I think.

457
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<v Speaker 1>And one thing about that art New Boom movement is

458
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<v Speaker 1>how commercialized it kind of became because the artists can

459
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<v Speaker 1>actually sell their work in their lifetime. It was it

460
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<v Speaker 1>was a way that you could actually make a living

461
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<v Speaker 1>being an artist.

462
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<v Speaker 2>And you'll still find like that stuff if you got

463
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<v Speaker 2>to like Michael's or you know what good Yeah, there's

464
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<v Speaker 2>always like mc mutua kind of prints or like that

465
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<v Speaker 2>look of stuff, and it's it's that's like, you know,

466
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<v Speaker 2>oh my first house, what do I buy? You know

467
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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? I go to Home Goods and I

468
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<v Speaker 2>get this thing that I get a sign that says

469
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<v Speaker 2>live laugh, watch movies. I don't know what mine would

470
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<v Speaker 2>say if I write, I don't know death bed.

471
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<v Speaker 1>So there are some Christian speaking of Catholicism, which we

472
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<v Speaker 1>talk about every episode too, because well, there's just so

473
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<v Speaker 1>much that horror films take from Catholicism for their movie.

474
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<v Speaker 1>And this isn't necessarily Catholicism, but just kind of like

475
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<v Speaker 1>Christian totems that are in the movie, and that I

476
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<v Speaker 1>didn't really think about until I read the chapter, and

477
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<v Speaker 1>there really highlights this is that those the typical Christian

478
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<v Speaker 1>totems that are used in films, like the cross or

479
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<v Speaker 1>crucifix necklace, the Bible itself and it has no effect

480
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<v Speaker 1>on the bed. So there's one character who you know,

481
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<v Speaker 1>lays down on the bed and actually the bed starts

482
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<v Speaker 1>using that necklace to you know, kind of slit her throat.

483
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<v Speaker 1>And when the whenever the cross goes into the bed,

484
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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna think, oh, it's gonna spit it out, something's

485
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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, and you know, nothing, it does nothing. It

486
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<v Speaker 1>affects it in no way, or the entire Bible goes

487
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<v Speaker 1>into the bed nothing yet it doesn't hurt it. Like

488
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<v Speaker 1>in most horror films the monster would be repulsed or

489
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<v Speaker 1>weakened by that object and not here. It's it's just

490
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<v Speaker 1>an object, no special power.

491
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<v Speaker 2>It's also amazing how many people find their way to

492
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<v Speaker 2>the bed within the movie, like you would think in

493
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<v Speaker 2>the location it's at, and like you know, it would

494
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<v Speaker 2>be really hard for the bed to wear people there. No,

495
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<v Speaker 2>it does it all the time. Like it it even

496
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<v Speaker 2>needs a suitcase at one point, like it pulls that

497
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<v Speaker 2>whole suitcase into it. It needs it. Like it's very

498
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<v Speaker 2>efficient in the way that it uses stuff to break down. Also,

499
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<v Speaker 2>I love I want to just make a mixtape of

500
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<v Speaker 2>just the moments of stuff being eaten within the bed,

501
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<v Speaker 2>like where we see that bubbling liquid is stuff falls

502
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<v Speaker 2>into it, especially like when the blood comes out. It

503
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<v Speaker 2>ends up looking like a shoegaze album cover like in

504
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<v Speaker 2>My Buddy at Valentine album cover. Sometimes and I don't know.

505
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<v Speaker 2>That's what I like about this movie. It's a good

506
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<v Speaker 2>like background movie to on look up and see some

507
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<v Speaker 2>of these images.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were gonna talk about a playlist, because

509
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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it, you know, the Lynn Lowry playlist.

510
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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a top bed playlist?

511
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<v Speaker 2>I need to come up with one.

512
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<v Speaker 1>I have one song and okay, Barbara Mandrel Sleeping single

513
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<v Speaker 1>in a double Bed, that's it.

514
00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh when you Sleep by My Buddy Valentine. That's what

515
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll use for it, like a good, like forty five

516
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.400
<v Speaker 2>minute long, droning shoegaze remix of it while we watch

517
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.279
<v Speaker 2>people have picnics and then get eaten by a bit.

518
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<v Speaker 1>Another thing I thought about though, speaking of those scenes,

519
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 1>was a movie that you know I love and I

520
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>know that you love and no one else does his head,

521
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>The Monkeys movie. Yeah, yeah, it had those psychedelic scenes

522
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<v Speaker 1>with the when the food or the people go down

523
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and it. Yeah, the song the Monkey song that plays

524
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<v Speaker 1>all the scenes of the movie's porpoise songs, and maybe

525
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>we could, Yeah, I could. I could put them on

526
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<v Speaker 1>and put the movie on and see kind of it

527
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>syncs up, kind of like a Pink Floyd Wizard of

528
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<v Speaker 1>Oz sort of.

529
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love this idea. I'm gonna you know what

530
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>this feels like from now on. I think we should

531
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<v Speaker 2>both come in with like a couple of picks and

532
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<v Speaker 2>we'll put like a Spotify list out for the movie.

533
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<v Speaker 2>I know people get ust like you guys using Spotify,

534
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>but it's just the easiest way to put songs together. Yeah,

535
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<v Speaker 2>we'll do it a little playlist for this. I think

536
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<v Speaker 2>I would probably put the end of Knights in White

537
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<v Speaker 2>Satin to like the spoken word part where it's like

538
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.759
<v Speaker 2>breathed deep, the gathering gloom. That feels like it could

539
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<v Speaker 2>play over a lot of this movie.

540
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<v Speaker 1>So would you describe this movie as folkre? You know,

541
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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a big thing we had. We

542
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<v Speaker 1>had and then now, yeah, is this frror?

543
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird. It's like if you told me that

544
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 2>this was an actual legend of a bed that ate,

545
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I would believe you because it feels like if this

546
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.799
<v Speaker 2>movie was made today and you know, for like the

547
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 2>obsession back rooms kind of audience, they would go crazy.

548
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 2>They'd be like, oh my god. Like, So it definitely

549
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>feels like there's some folk core issue to it. Well,

550
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:07.359
<v Speaker 2>especially when you get in, start to get in real

551
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 2>people and start to get in uh like real stories.

552
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.519
<v Speaker 2>I also love just the scene came up in the

553
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>background where the woman reading the old woman reading the

554
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 2>newspaper in bed and it just says oral lesbians for

555
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the newspaper? What newspapers?

556
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Grandmother was that?

557
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Did you read this? It's the grandmother of one of

558
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the guys in it, Dave Marsha's grandmother. Yeah. Dave marsh

559
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:34.319
<v Speaker 2>who plays the artist in this who's supposed to look

560
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>like maybe perhaps Yeah, and he was actually a writer

561
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 2>for Cream I don't know if you saw this. And

562
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 2>he's credited with coming up with the term punk rock.

563
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>So uh, that's wild that he's in this movie too.

564
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>I love when it's like what really? But yeah? Also

565
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 2>I like I like some of these scenes where I

566
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>think one of Barry's real skills is we don't always

567
00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>The bed eats people in different ways. My favorite one

568
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 2>is when and that girl gets onto the bed and

569
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:03.599
<v Speaker 2>takes off the braces on her legs and then we

570
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.920
<v Speaker 2>just eat bubbles faller at the edge of the bed,

571
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like, you know, at this point we've

572
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>seen enough bed eating that we can just we know

573
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.480
<v Speaker 2>what's happening and we can just hear it and see

574
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the bubbles and and it works out. Would you say?

575
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 2>I would say yes to folk wors and the thief

576
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>note is not based on I'm sure that we'll get

577
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.279
<v Speaker 2>someone from a noted folk wore expert will send an

578
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 2>email and be like, hey, guys, no, only it's like

579
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<v Speaker 2>the people that are the jolly Uh, they can only

580
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.759
<v Speaker 2>make jelly in Italy. No movie not made in Italy

581
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:37.119
<v Speaker 2>can be jolly and I'm like, well, there's all these

582
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.839
<v Speaker 2>Spanish ones. Those aren't you all? And I'm like, but

583
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:42.880
<v Speaker 2>yeah they are, and right, no they're not.

584
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<v Speaker 1>Look anytime there's a movie, a movie that has sticks and.

585
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly, or yeah that's there's uh, we're walking

586
00:30:54.079 --> 00:31:00.240
<v Speaker 2>under the trees, it feels like fall. It's folk corr big.

587
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Now they're like, it's like fever dream and folk horror

588
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>just the go to words, right, Like if you put

589
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>those on, people like, oh, I'll watch it.

590
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 1>The beds are destroyed. I mean she has a pile

591
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 1>of a pile of sticks in one end. Yeah, and

592
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the fire fire is another. Oh yes, it's just every

593
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>movie we've had had fire in it.

594
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Now is this a folk horror podcast?

595
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe? What have we done the Hammer podcast?

596
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, every Hammer movie has to end with a building

597
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 2>burning down.

598
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>The best ones for sure.

599
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh those and the best Corman ones have the same

600
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.839
<v Speaker 2>shot from the terror of the house burning down. It's like,

601
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, why should we burn another house when we

602
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>already filmed it once? Today movies only end with a

603
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>girl smoking a cigarette in front of a structure on

604
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>fire after she's destroyed the patriarchy, Like ready, or not

605
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:54.680
<v Speaker 2>ends that way. There was like eight movies that came

606
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 2>out that year that all had the same ending, and

607
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I was like, cool, I mean, I'm all for it,

608
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 2>but it's like, did everybody get in a room together

609
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 2>and be like, you know what, how we should end

610
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:07.039
<v Speaker 2>these movies. I'm sure Carmack got everybody together and is like,

611
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>we got this shot of a building on fire, that's

612
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>how the movie ends. And I saw it in a

613
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Hammer movie. Just do it.

614
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 1>So one thing I learned is that only once in

615
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:21.839
<v Speaker 1>every ten years does a demon sleep. That's that said

616
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.039
<v Speaker 1>in this movie, and the size are always filled with

617
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>blood and apparently that was a George Berry's eyes as

618
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 1>the deed. Oh wow, what I read?

619
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I learned from the Son of Satan comic book that

620
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 2>the only night the Devil sleeps is Christmas Eve, and

621
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.039
<v Speaker 2>I always thought, is it kicks? I read that when

622
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>I was like five, and I was like, well, tonight's

623
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>a safe night. Being a Catholic kid, right, Tonight's safe night.

624
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.079
<v Speaker 2>The devil sleeping on Christmas Eve? Why would he sleep

625
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:50.559
<v Speaker 2>on that night? I guess maybe he's like, Tomorrow's going

626
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 2>to be a really rough day. I got to just

627
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>sleep then get some get a nap now before these

628
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:57.920
<v Speaker 2>families start fighting and invoking my name.

629
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<v Speaker 1>I love there's things about this movie that I love

630
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>in any movie. One is kind of a vignette style

631
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 1>that we have here. We get breakfast and then we

632
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.799
<v Speaker 1>get dinner or lunch and dinner. I can't remember exactly

633
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 1>what the title cards say, but it's broken up until

634
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 1>you have one that first couple who come in with

635
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the chicken. The bucket of chicken. That's breakfast, and then

636
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I guess lunch is our main story of our three

637
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>ladies who were put together. We don't know why. And

638
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>apparently some of that got edited out or never filmed.

639
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember which one. Yeah, it didn't make it.

640
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>There was some story on how they ended up together,

641
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but it really doesn't make any sense why they are together.

642
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I like the dinner part with Sharon's brother where his

643
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>hands get the vowed and he just has the skeletal fingers.

644
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.160
<v Speaker 2>That's why this is a fairy tale he kind of

645
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>movie to me, because it's like, certainly nobody would be

646
00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>able to be able to just sit there and have

647
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 2>their hands be scouted hands.

648
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and it's just very sad it's not like

649
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 1>he's not in pain or he's just like, oh, I

650
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>have to sign the pictures.

651
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Skeleton And that's the picture on the wall over here

652
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 2>is just the dude with skeleton hands. And he wrote

653
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:15.880
<v Speaker 2>a note on it for me because he knew how

654
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.320
<v Speaker 2>much I like that scenes. I'm like, it's so beautiful,

655
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, we I'll send you a picture so

656
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 2>and he also sent me the remake too, which I

657
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.280
<v Speaker 2>haven't watched because I don't want to say.

658
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't know there was a remake.

659
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was one made in early two thousands. There's

660
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.119
<v Speaker 2>also the release too. The first release of this was

661
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>in twenty thirteen, the one that has Stephen Thrower's band

662
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:41.119
<v Speaker 2>playing on it. It'sychlobe did all the new music for

663
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:46.199
<v Speaker 2>the movie in that version. That was the film's actual

664
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:49.039
<v Speaker 2>theatrical premiere was in two thousand and three, which is crazy.

665
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 1>Another thing I like in movies or day for night scenes.

666
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of this, but actually it's is it

667
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.559
<v Speaker 1>day for night or is it neither day nor night.

668
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to tell what time of day it is,

669
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and the only way that we know are those inner

670
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>titles that say if it's breakfast store, if it's the lunch,

671
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.599
<v Speaker 1>or if it's dinner, because it doesn't we can't tell

672
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:12.519
<v Speaker 1>about we can't trust the sun or the lighting.

673
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 2>That's another Messiah evil tie to this, where there's times

674
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>in that movie you're like, certainly it's at night, Like no,

675
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>it's four, it's five in the morning. Right where are

676
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.360
<v Speaker 2>we at? Like why are all these people in this house?

677
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:29.119
<v Speaker 2>This movie has a lot of that same stuff, And

678
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 2>like I'm watching the poker playing scene right now, and

679
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's purple out. It could it could be anytime.

680
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.880
<v Speaker 2>It's over a space e liminal space. Yes.

681
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 1>My favorite death in this is I guess Diane who

682
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>is She gets partially eaten and escapes and she crawls

683
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>is for like five minutes. She crawls after trying to

684
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>crawl out of the building and she gets all the

685
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>way out and then the sheet comes in. It wraps

686
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.199
<v Speaker 1>around her and pulls her back in. Oh.

687
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 2>I also like the mobster guy whose cigar slowly sinks

688
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>down into just gel or whatever it is at that point.

689
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:18.519
<v Speaker 1>Is that when beards leaves like I haven't had a

690
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>cigarette in sixty years, he kind of gets to experience

691
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 1>some of the leftovers. Yeah, the bed has the all

692
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the jewelry he's wearing all the rings, and each every

693
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 1>ring tells a story, as I.

694
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Say, Yeah, and then you get to see a lot

695
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>of his art after that in the scene some of

696
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:41.239
<v Speaker 2>his pen and in stuff is.

697
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 1>All black and white, so it's illustrations. He was did

698
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot of caricatures or kind of in the grotesque

699
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:52.280
<v Speaker 1>way of art, of exaggerations and things that was interesting.

700
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and I love that, Like after we see

701
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 2>these this is why you can tell this is an

702
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:03.039
<v Speaker 2>art movie. Cuts to like a pen floating away in

703
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>the in the belly of this and then him like

704
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 2>having consumption on the bed, and it's like this really

705
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.280
<v Speaker 2>dark shot. I always say the difference between art house

706
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 2>and grindhouses where you saw where you saw this, Like

707
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>this movie has pretensions toward art, but it's definitely more

708
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>on the grindhouse side of things. Like there wouldn't be

709
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 2>a girl disrobing on the bed for no reason if

710
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>this was a full art movie, do you know what

711
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean? Like we have to at least one person

712
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 2>has to get naked, Come on, guys, Like that's so

713
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:33.199
<v Speaker 2>that happens the funniest thing to me is that George

714
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Speaker 2>finding out that this movie that people had seen. This

715
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 2>movie is like he was on movie forums online, like

716
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to find a movie he had seen on like

717
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Turner Classic Movies overnight and he just didn't get the

718
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>name of it. So he was trying to type it

719
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.320
<v Speaker 2>in all the stuff for it, and then he found

720
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.519
<v Speaker 2>this forum where people were talking about films they found

721
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>and somebody was talking about his movie and I'm like,

722
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:58.559
<v Speaker 2>he said, it was like being in a dream where

723
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 2>he was like, wait, that's sounds a lot like the

724
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 2>movie that I filmed that never came out. And he's like,

725
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.679
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, it's every plot point like there's no way.

726
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:08.800
<v Speaker 2>And then it mentioned his name, so he's like, I

727
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:10.320
<v Speaker 2>wrote to the guy right away, and the guy got

728
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.719
<v Speaker 2>back to me pretty quickly. He was in France, and

729
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 2>he was like, that's when he found out the whole

730
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>story behind like what and he said, you know what, Like,

731
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even mad. I was just happy that finally

732
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>somebody saw it. It just didn't belong to me anymore

733
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:24.760
<v Speaker 2>that like somebody the other people out in the world

734
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 2>had seen it and were talking about it. And he's, uh,

735
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:31.800
<v Speaker 2>they His wife actually told me that when he died,

736
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:33.119
<v Speaker 2>they founded me he was in front of the computer

737
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.159
<v Speaker 2>looking up movies. He had a heart attack watching movies

738
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 2>and on two B and uh and looking up stuff.

739
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I know, right, And when I heard was watching Rat

740
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Scratch Fever again on Oh my God, and died.

741
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make Riverside good nuts now here. I love

742
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Rat Scratch Fever so much. I can't even tell you

743
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 2>how much I love that movie. Like it's the there's

744
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>not a lot of difference between the regional films Recovery

745
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and SV to me, because they're both insane, and that

746
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:05.480
<v Speaker 2>movie is like not afraid to just go crazy. And

747
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>you're like, is it really going to have a rat

748
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>eat its way through a woman, like into her brain

749
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.599
<v Speaker 2>but starting between her like of course it is like

750
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 2>it's red stretch, Like, oh my god, it's so good.

751
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 2>My good.

752
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Riverside has acquiesced to our style because this the last

753
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.159
<v Speaker 1>episode was almost two hours long.

754
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

755
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I asked it, what the suggestions you have and they

756
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:28.679
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any. They're like, this is who you are,

757
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>just I understand.

758
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 2>So well, it's funny with us. The drive in that

759
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 2>we go to is called the Riverside. So Bill texted

760
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:38.320
<v Speaker 2>me last night after listening to the show and he

761
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:40.559
<v Speaker 2>was like, who from the Riverside was so rude to

762
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.880
<v Speaker 2>tell you not to talk about creep Show two? And

763
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, it's the program that helps do the show.

764
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:47.280
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, oh, because you guys can talk about

765
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>creep Show two all you want.

766
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, try to talk about creep Show two

767
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 1>right now, because I watched creep Show two this week

768
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>because talking about it so much, I was like, Okay,

769
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.599
<v Speaker 1>I have to watch it. And in our segment what

770
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:05.079
<v Speaker 1>about this movie reminded you of Creep Show too a

771
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:08.639
<v Speaker 1>moment because the raft that last girl gets sucked into

772
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the blobb thing, but her she kind of pops back

773
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>up as a skeleton, and that made me think of

774
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:18.039
<v Speaker 1>the guy who his hands were a skeleton. So you see,

775
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>we can make we can make every movie about Creep

776
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Show to you.

777
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I actually watched something this weekend and one of the

778
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:29.039
<v Speaker 2>characters in it was from the Raft. Paul Solderfield was

779
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:30.599
<v Speaker 2>in it, and I was like, oh my god, it's

780
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>the kid from the raft. It pulls the grow up

781
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:36.079
<v Speaker 2>the last second, and I was like, is Creepshow to

782
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>connecting everything in my life. It really does feel like

783
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.760
<v Speaker 2>sometimes Arena. That's what movie I was watching, and he's

784
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 2>also in then, But that is a good tie in. Also,

785
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.840
<v Speaker 2>as I get older every day, I really I used

786
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 2>to see myself as the young Native American kids that

787
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:57.039
<v Speaker 2>come to the town and can't wait to get out

788
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 2>of town. And I very much seen myself as George Kennedy.

789
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Now as I get older, I'm like, I just want

790
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:04.760
<v Speaker 2>to run this store and bunch of kids just behave yourselves.

791
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I love George and Doorthleyttlemore. Oh my god, they're both

792
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.280
<v Speaker 1>so you know, they're not slumming it. They are again,

793
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>even if they're just there for a check, they are

794
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>putting in the work.

795
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh and I love that the leader of the Native

796
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:26.360
<v Speaker 2>American tust is the dude from Mine Hunter Bones. Yeah.

797
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:29.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh he is reports but it's great call. Uh but

798
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.159
<v Speaker 2>like he uh, I'm gonna get paid in his hair.

799
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:35.880
<v Speaker 2>That's what I've said for years that neither has worked out.

800
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I just have long hair. But uh, yeah, I love

801
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>him and he's the older cop uh and uh Mine Hunter.

802
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.519
<v Speaker 2>He turned out to look a lot like George Kennedy.

803
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 2>So life is a highway, a circular highway.

804
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:53.159
<v Speaker 1>That's a flat circle.

805
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, flat. Oh yeah, we're going to.

806
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Flash Museum here though, where they where they have it.

807
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 1>The Arkansas Fine Arts Museum had an Art Nouveaux exhibition

808
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>recently and they had some Aubrey beards Lely works.

809
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

810
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:11.159
<v Speaker 1>So I'm told by my daughter I did not go,

811
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>but she was. She actually works at the museum and

812
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 1>so she knew. She's like, yeah, he had some pieces

813
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>there during that exhibition.

814
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're going to Flashback next weekend because they're showing

815
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:31.559
<v Speaker 2>holloween Too with Allen Howarth playing the music live. So

816
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>we weren't gonna go, and we're like, that seems really

817
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 2>a far trip just to go. You know, Pamela shop

818
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:41.719
<v Speaker 2>is there from Hoween Too, and my wife, you know,

819
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Chris loves Halloween to It's her favorite movie. But then

820
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:45.880
<v Speaker 2>as soon as they announced her playing the music, she's like,

821
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I already bought the tickets and I got a hotel room.

822
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 2>I already talked to your friend's wife will be staying

823
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:52.079
<v Speaker 2>with them one night. And I'm like, wow, she planned

824
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.119
<v Speaker 2>this whole trip. So that's what we're doing. Also, because

825
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Stephen Weber's there. So I'm totally gonna be watch my

826
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.719
<v Speaker 2>cry when she meets Stephen Weber, and then I'll be

827
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:03.960
<v Speaker 2>like a dude and be like, oh, you're in an

828
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>argentle movie. You're in Jennifer.

829
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I just think about single White Female with him, I

830
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>guess and.

831
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Gongs but wings, yeah, single female. This is jolly.

832
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.119
<v Speaker 1>If you've seen that since it came out. Oh so

833
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I need to rewatch that is a movie I haven't.

834
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:26.159
<v Speaker 1>That's probably my least watched Halloween. I kind of skip

835
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>it for some reason. I don't know why.

836
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 2>It's my most watched Halloween. My wife loves Howweing too,

837
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.400
<v Speaker 2>like the point that she can she has the uh

838
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Death Waltz vinyl and she just can do the whole

839
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:40.599
<v Speaker 2>movie while it's playing. It's really amazing. Her and Bill

840
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 2>just will talk to each other in whole scenes from Hoween.

841
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

842
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Hm hmmm, I have to rewatch it. It's been I

843
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:48.679
<v Speaker 1>can't remember the last time watching it. I probably haven't

844
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>logged it on letterbox, which is over ten years at

845
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>this point.

846
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, don't make me cry, like that's it.

847
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.159
<v Speaker 1>Last time I went through them. I think I just

848
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 1>started with number four. I think I just watched the

849
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Thorn Trilogy and went forward through the rest of because

850
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I've seen number one. I've seen the first one so

851
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.039
<v Speaker 1>many times and oh yeah, and the third one is so,

852
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.320
<v Speaker 1>of course not related to the Michael Meyers stuff.

853
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Yea. I have a super mix of four through six

854
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>as one cuts, like a movie that they edited everything together.

855
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you, like three hours of the

856
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Thorn Trilogy at once is a lot to take. I

857
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.400
<v Speaker 2>really like six, though it is so fucking dumb. People

858
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:33.360
<v Speaker 2>hate it, and like, you know what, that's what I want,

859
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I would franchises get dumb. That's when I love them.

860
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Is that the one that has a producer's cut too?

861
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember?

862
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yes, I think I bought the Blu ray

863
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and I haven't watched a producer's cut? Is that the

864
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Curse of Michael Myers?

865
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

866
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, is that sick?

867
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I gave it, I have, I have a whole shelf.

868
00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.039
<v Speaker 1>The bottom line up front, This isn't terrible. Actually, I

869
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.800
<v Speaker 1>think I liked that one more than than five.

870
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I hated four when it came out because I was

871
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:10.440
<v Speaker 2>that was like in my prime, seventeen year old edge lord.

872
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.599
<v Speaker 2>You know gore. Every movie had to have gore in it,

873
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 2>and I can't be to the effects and nothing happens

874
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:18.840
<v Speaker 2>in it, Like there's not a lot of gore. I

875
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:20.559
<v Speaker 2>remember being in Sense. Now when I go back and

876
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>watch it, I'm like, it has like really cool fall vibes.

877
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 2>I dig it. Yeah, they're all nothing's gonna be as

878
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 2>good as the first one. But you know, as long

879
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Speaker 2>as you're fine with that, I don't even want to

880
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 2>talk about progressively, each knew holloween it comes out makes

881
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:39.719
<v Speaker 2>the one before it better. Like at this point, I

882
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:42.079
<v Speaker 2>love the rub zombie ones and I hated them, and

883
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 2>now I'm like, these are or at least he had

884
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.039
<v Speaker 2>a vision. It's kind of like, I'm it's kind of

885
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>like he's like a cousin or something right where I'm like,

886
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I know he did that. But my cousin wanted to

887
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.760
<v Speaker 2>be a filmmaker and made a slasher movie when we

888
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 2>were kids and said it was all excited to show

889
00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 2>it to me. Brought to the house and showed it

890
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 2>but to me, my brother and my grandmother. And there

891
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>was a scene where he stabbed a woman in the

892
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:07.440
<v Speaker 2>back of the head and then had sex with her.

893
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Graphically on screen for like three minutes, and my grandmother said, well,

894
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:14.960
<v Speaker 2>at least he's doing something and he's working on his passions.

895
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you showed this movie to our grandmother.

896
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:24.199
<v Speaker 2>This was like a beyond a serbian film level of stuff. Oh,

897
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:26.840
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have to send us anywhere, and then likely

898
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 2>people would watch it. He would instantly go on a

899
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:36.920
<v Speaker 2>watch list. And yeah, anyways, I would be really interested

900
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.280
<v Speaker 2>for younger people to watch Deathbed and see what they

901
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 2>think of it, Like, as long as they can get

902
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 2>past like and not make fun of it and like

903
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>actually watch it. Maybe if you did tell him it

904
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:48.039
<v Speaker 2>was folk horror, I think they would be more apt

905
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:51.000
<v Speaker 2>to be like, oh, yeah, this is this is fine.

906
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just don't know if they had attention spans

907
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:57.239
<v Speaker 1>there to be able to And this is not a

908
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>long movie and in move I mean I think it

909
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:03.719
<v Speaker 1>moves pretty quick. Yeah, the first part, especially us like, well,

910
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like about the first twenty minutes, I'm like, wow, this

911
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.800
<v Speaker 1>is just flying by for a yeah, kind of a

912
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a slower movie, it's a slow burn, but it

913
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:13.280
<v Speaker 1>still kind of moves.

914
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that. George said, I don't even remember

915
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 2>if I was an observant a dream. But I had

916
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:21.119
<v Speaker 2>this dream where a bed that was engulfing. There's nothing

917
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I remember that was just specific with just the engulfing bed.

918
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 2>There wasn't any digestion, was just the bed coming in

919
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:28.599
<v Speaker 2>over and over again. And I woke up and I

920
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.400
<v Speaker 2>wrote the script, which is cool because this does feel

921
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:33.840
<v Speaker 2>like a dream, especially the scene where all the girls

922
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:35.639
<v Speaker 2>are in front of the fireplace and keep getting up

923
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.440
<v Speaker 2>like super imposed over each other. That really points to

924
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 2>like early seventies Simon King of the Witch is looking stuff.

925
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.199
<v Speaker 2>That's what I always call it, like psychedelic filmmaking. Oorhead.

926
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:47.639
<v Speaker 2>I just hit the part where the girl's stuck halfway

927
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.360
<v Speaker 2>through the bed and near right. The scene's amazing with

928
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>her like trying to crawl out in the bed pulling

929
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>on her.

930
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:57.519
<v Speaker 3>It's forever. She crawls for forever.

931
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And she makes it and then she gets pulled right

932
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:00.320
<v Speaker 1>back in.

933
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I also love that, Uh, you know, people didn't necessarily

934
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.480
<v Speaker 2>know how to make blood back then, because this wasn't like,

935
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:11.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Savini effects book hadn't come out, and

936
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Dick Smith hadn't put out how he did it, so

937
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.199
<v Speaker 2>people are like, oh, well, they just used red pain

938
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:19.239
<v Speaker 2>or ketchup for these movies. Neither of these things film. Well,

939
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.679
<v Speaker 2>this looks like Italian blood from Donna the Dead, where

940
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 2>it's like bright red. It's like the reddest blood. And

941
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 2>then I remember because I asked the guys that did

942
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the shot on video slaughter Beach, like, how did you guys?

943
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.159
<v Speaker 2>There's so much blood in this movie? How'd you guys

944
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:32.639
<v Speaker 2>do it? Like, we didn't know how to make blood,

945
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.199
<v Speaker 2>so we just figured if we got red kool aid

946
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>and did like a fourth of the water that was

947
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.360
<v Speaker 2>supposed to go in it, it would look kind of bloody.

948
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, how'd that turn out? Like? We were dyed

949
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.400
<v Speaker 2>red for about a year, Like we didn't our hands,

950
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.280
<v Speaker 2>our hair, everything was bright red. This where she's crawling away,

951
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like, obviously it's the brightest red blood you've ever seen.

952
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, that's good. I don't know. I

953
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:55.760
<v Speaker 2>don't want realism and deathbed. That's kind of what I

954
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 2>dig about it.

955
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 1>It's like, the whole point is that, yes, it's a

956
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 1>fairy tale, it's not we're not going for realism here

957
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:04.760
<v Speaker 1>at all, so you would expect the dream logic you're in.

958
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a bed so a doult fits together.

959
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I asked George, I said, when you guys got all

960
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:14.159
<v Speaker 2>that blood in that room, you know, with her dragging

961
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.159
<v Speaker 2>across the floor. He's like, they told me they wish

962
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:18.400
<v Speaker 2>that we had done more to destroy the house. He

963
00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:20.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, I was really shocked, like how much we

964
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.440
<v Speaker 2>got away with because the guy was like disappointed that

965
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 2>we weren't doing an adult film. He is and he's like,

966
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I have never had that reaction before. And I said, well,

967
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:31.519
<v Speaker 2>where are you going to and he's like, I wouldn't

968
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>even know how to find people to do. It was

969
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 2>hard enough to get a movie to be in a

970
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:38.000
<v Speaker 2>movie called Deathbed, much less to do that. He's like,

971
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I was just here to make a horror movie.

972
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess that those were in vogue at the time,

973
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.840
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, probably it is the horror films.

974
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What's funny is of the cast, Sharon's brother, the

975
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 2>one whose hands get eaten is William Rust. He was

976
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:57.199
<v Speaker 2>on Boy Meets World for like one hundred and seventy

977
00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 2>some episodes and he directed nine episodes of the show.

978
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:03.039
<v Speaker 2>He's also cruising and he was in the original v

979
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:06.079
<v Speaker 2>mini series, so he's done a ton of work. Oh,

980
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:08.079
<v Speaker 2>my god, were.

981
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:11.119
<v Speaker 1>You you were like, now, yeah, I was what year

982
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:12.360
<v Speaker 1>was that eighty four?

983
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I think yeah, I was in fifth grade or sixth

984
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:16.840
<v Speaker 2>grade when.

985
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Arima eighty three. Yeah, so I would have been about eight,

986
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and that was I mean, it just broke my mind,

987
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:29.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, Oh my god, for that time. I remember

988
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 1>movie and I was obsessed.

989
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:33.159
<v Speaker 2>We were talking about it in school the next day.

990
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:35.039
<v Speaker 2>That's why I remember.

991
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:38.119
<v Speaker 1>It was my one of my first crushes between her

992
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and maybe uh Bobby Gentry on the cover of the

993
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Fantasy album.

994
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 2>You know what, Our teacher gave us a twenty minute

995
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 2>break so that he's like, I guess you kids are

996
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.480
<v Speaker 2>going to talk about whatever this movie is, so go

997
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:53.440
<v Speaker 2>ahead and talk about it for twenty minutes. And we

998
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:55.559
<v Speaker 2>just were all like, what's going to happen tonight? Like

999
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.800
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the first night when the old

1000
00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.239
<v Speaker 2>guy like spraised the V on the poster. If you

1001
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.159
<v Speaker 2>told me I had a fight an alien at that point,

1002
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm one would have. I was so excited about whatever

1003
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:06.000
<v Speaker 2>was coming fast.

1004
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, talk about jingoism, you know, that's some some

1005
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 1>raw raw you know America, you know, but just.

1006
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Take the politics out of these movies. They're so political.

1007
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Go back and watch V like it's a whole movie

1008
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 2>about it. I gotta tell you the V series that

1009
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:28.559
<v Speaker 2>like next to like I think it's episode eleven, Civil

1010
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Danning comes to take over for Diana, and I, as

1011
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 2>a kid, I was like, I don't know what this is.

1012
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it's doing to me, this black

1013
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 2>magic of Civil Danning, and and like I love that,

1014
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Like there's just publicity picks you could if you go

1015
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>here to con She's got that picture of her hold

1016
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.840
<v Speaker 2>in the gun. Like god, gosh, darn it. V's so good,

1017
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.159
<v Speaker 2>and yet it's only like too mini series and like

1018
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:55.480
<v Speaker 2>thirteen episodes. That's all we really needed when we're kids.

1019
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Were like, that's enough to obsess me for thirty forty years.

1020
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:03.639
<v Speaker 1>I remembered the series, and I just remember it was over,

1021
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was confused, like why why is this not

1022
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>on anyway? Why is everyone is watching this right? And

1023
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:10.119
<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, wasn't.

1024
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.679
<v Speaker 2>I watch a lot of good bad flicks. Has like

1025
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 2>a thing he does of like five series that everybody

1026
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 2>forgot that he does every once in a while, and

1027
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 2>every single time I laugh because I'm like my dad

1028
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:24.599
<v Speaker 2>and I watched this show whatever it is like Dark

1029
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Skies Hunter and we were watching it every week, and

1030
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:30.079
<v Speaker 2>it's like if a show lasted ten episodes and was

1031
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 2>canceled without an ending cliffhangers. I can think of a

1032
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:36.599
<v Speaker 2>million other shows that we watched and that's it. That's

1033
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:41.599
<v Speaker 2>all Misfits, The Science Manimal, The Highwayman with Sam J. Jones.

1034
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:43.920
<v Speaker 2>These are all the shows that I was obsessed with

1035
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:46.039
<v Speaker 2>as a kid. And I was the same way with

1036
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>like amazing stories and like certainly everybody else is loving

1037
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:50.440
<v Speaker 2>this wrong, it's doing horrible.

1038
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:55.559
<v Speaker 1>And now we get I was listening to something os

1039
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the one of my favorite podcasts is with Gorley and Rest.

1040
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you ever hearing when the Matt

1041
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Gorley and Paul Rest and they were he was talking

1042
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<v Speaker 1>about Paul Russe had created a show on Netflix called

1043
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Love and they were saying, you know, would that ever

1044
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of come back? And there's this whole talk of

1045
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Netflix doesn't want to produce shows unless they

1046
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.280
<v Speaker 1>know they can get X amount of seasons out of them.

1047
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 1>But viewers aren't going to commit to a show unless

1048
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.320
<v Speaker 1>they know they're going to produce x number of They

1049
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:25.840
<v Speaker 1>don't they don't want to just watch a show for

1050
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.719
<v Speaker 1>one season. They want, you know, to know that this

1051
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:30.400
<v Speaker 1>will keep going on because they don't want to spend

1052
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the time invested in it. And I feel like I'm

1053
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 1>the opposite, Like I just give me one good season

1054
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of something, yeah, and you can just stop, and even

1055
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:41.159
<v Speaker 1>if you keep going, I may not watch it. Even

1056
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>if I love that first season, I'm good, Just give

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00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:44.840
<v Speaker 1>me one.

1058
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:48.079
<v Speaker 2>I think. What's funny though, is like I like the

1059
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:51.320
<v Speaker 2>second season of twin Peaks so much because you know,

1060
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 2>when of the first season was on, everybody was watching it,

1061
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Like it was a huge thing,

1062
00:53:56.880 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 2>which is hilarious to think about today, right that this

1063
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:02.760
<v Speaker 2>quirky series is going to be that important. But like

1064
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:04.920
<v Speaker 2>the second season, like people were just in rage, like

1065
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.440
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to solve this fucking murder. No, it's

1066
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.159
<v Speaker 2>not about that. It was never about that to him.

1067
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:12.960
<v Speaker 2>So they're gonna do whatever they want. And it's like that,

1068
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I like these fin experiences. I'd rather have a mini

1069
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.079
<v Speaker 2>series and then that way I'm through it. That's the

1070
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.400
<v Speaker 2>worst feeling when you love a show and then by

1071
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.639
<v Speaker 2>the end the characters you loved it are just shadows

1072
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.159
<v Speaker 2>of who they were before, and we're just what are

1073
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 2>we doing?

1074
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they need to bring back the mini series, the

1075
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>oh you know, the Winds of War series. Yeah, why

1076
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.360
<v Speaker 1>don't they do these anymore? That was just I thought that.

1077
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of a show that like was once dangerous, like

1078
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I was. I watched I'm doing another movie challenge, Klon's

1079
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Summer Challenge, and it's horrible cartoons this week. So I

1080
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:55.920
<v Speaker 2>did cartoon All Stars of the Rescue, which it Oh

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00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:58.320
<v Speaker 2>my god, did you watch Scruffy's on my list too?

1082
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:02.119
<v Speaker 2>That movie is? Is it not the most brutal movie

1083
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 2>you've ever watched?

1084
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I loved it so much, Scruffy, Scruffy.

1085
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I love with.

1086
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes from from childhood, from life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, Oh, I love Joe so much. It's always

1088
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:23.239
<v Speaker 2>mean girls, Like anytime Joe was mean to a boy,

1089
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, there's just something about that Joe. I love that.

1090
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:29.159
<v Speaker 2>When we think Scruffy's life's gonna be okay, when he

1091
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:31.840
<v Speaker 2>finds that old actor dude and he's like performing with

1092
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.280
<v Speaker 2>him and and then the guy he's like, we're going

1093
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:36.599
<v Speaker 2>to be together forever, and at that moment he has

1094
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:37.280
<v Speaker 2>a heart attack.

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00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:42.039
<v Speaker 1>And when you're a kid in the eighties, that's what

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00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:47.639
<v Speaker 1>you got. Very uh, not happy ending.

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00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:53.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like torture porne though, because like at one point

1098
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:55.280
<v Speaker 2>his mom, you think the mom's going to die in

1099
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:58.639
<v Speaker 2>the fire a spoilers for Scruffy, a cartoon from nineteen

1100
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:05.079
<v Speaker 2>eighty Get ready riverside to edit this one. Scruffy's mom,

1101
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you think she's gonna die in that fire. She lives.

1102
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:08.760
<v Speaker 2>You think she's going to die in like a flood.

1103
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.079
<v Speaker 2>She lives. And then like, you know, we should go

1104
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:13.519
<v Speaker 2>in the woods where there's these hunters, and I'm like, fuck,

1105
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:17.480
<v Speaker 2>they did it, and his mom gets shot off camera

1106
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:19.760
<v Speaker 2>and like, please don't show her. They show her. I

1107
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:21.760
<v Speaker 2>ran upstairs and held my dog and I was like,

1108
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:28.679
<v Speaker 2>if you should go through what Scruffy. There's a review

1109
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:31.280
<v Speaker 2>on Letterbox that flipped out about the end of Scruffy,

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00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:35.679
<v Speaker 2>by the way I believe it, where they're like Scruffy

1111
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.639
<v Speaker 2>was being groomed by that other dog and he met

1112
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:40.719
<v Speaker 2>her when she was a puppy and ended up having kids.

1113
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, fucking dogs, dude, you know what I mean.

1114
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.800
<v Speaker 1>And then actually had a happy ending, which this person, this.

1115
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Person, this person is like the eighties were horrible and

1116
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.199
<v Speaker 2>male dogs were grooming female dogs. And I'm like, I

1117
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.760
<v Speaker 2>don't think anyone considered that ever, except for you right

1118
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 2>now that I'm so glad you watched Gruffy.

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00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:06.760
<v Speaker 1>You were saying you watched something else for this.

1120
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Cartoon All Stars to the Rescue, which is the only

1121
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:13.400
<v Speaker 2>time that every network played the same show that wasn't news.

1122
00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:16.840
<v Speaker 2>So it was an anti drug cartoon that unites every

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00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:20.639
<v Speaker 2>major cartoon character introduced by George Bush and Barbara Bush.

1124
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:22.960
<v Speaker 1>And so it's kind of like Zations played We Are

1125
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:25.159
<v Speaker 1>the World at the same times.

1126
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this has like the Ducktails characters, Chippendale, the

1127
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Ninja Turtles, Alf Garfield, the Smurfs. Everybody's in it except

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<v Speaker 2>for Bart Simpson, who at nineteen ninety would have been

1129
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:41.519
<v Speaker 2>the most popular cartoon. And you know, but when the

1130
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Simpsons first came on, like, people were very upset by

1131
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:46.159
<v Speaker 2>it and they're like, oh, it's a bad role model.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what teachers strongly encouraged the makers of this

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00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:52.800
<v Speaker 2>cartoon not to include Bart Simpson because no one would

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<v Speaker 2>believe that he would he would keep kids up drugs.

1135
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:01.679
<v Speaker 1>Our school band Bart Simpson t shirt in the early

1136
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:04.840
<v Speaker 1>nineties or high school you could not wear. You could

1137
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:08.199
<v Speaker 1>not wear Bart Simpson, you cannot wear the Nike swoosh,

1138
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I said, just too suggestive.

1139
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, did you go to a public school or

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00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:15.199
<v Speaker 2>like a Christian school.

1141
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:18.239
<v Speaker 1>No, he's a public school, but it was in the South, so.

1142
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:22.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, Ah, okay, say no more. They outwatched slat

1143
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:27.159
<v Speaker 2>bracelets at my school too, because kids were slat braceletally

1144
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:28.599
<v Speaker 2>and one another with it.

1145
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's too distracting, Okay, it.

1146
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Just seems weird. The problems of today, Like today kids

1147
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:38.960
<v Speaker 2>go to school. I'm like, come, don't get shot the

1148
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:41.559
<v Speaker 2>problems I had where I hope somebody doesn't slat bracelet me.

1149
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I hope that nobody beats me up for what I'm wearing. Yeah,

1150
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:50.360
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot different, but anyway, not take it too dark.

1151
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:55.519
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the cartoon All Stars Are the Rescue and Scruffy,

1152
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:58.280
<v Speaker 2>those were the two big watches I had. Literally I

1153
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:00.639
<v Speaker 2>stopped watching TV after Scruffy because I was like, nothing

1154
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.559
<v Speaker 2>is going to be both better, worse, or more depressing

1155
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 2>than what I just watched, even though I I know

1156
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:07.320
<v Speaker 2>it does have a happy ending. Also based on a

1157
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:09.000
<v Speaker 2>true story, which is terrifying.

1158
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Right and wait, that director directed a lot of Disney. Well,

1159
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:20.519
<v Speaker 1>he did Charlotte's Web the seventies. Yeah, and a lot

1160
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:21.360
<v Speaker 1>of Pluto shorts.

1161
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so he knew dogs. But he was like,

1162
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:31.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what that aired on three different weeks, like an.

1163
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Hour a week, Yeah, three weeks.

1164
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Watching first run though, Yeah you didn't see it when

1165
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you were a little kid.

1166
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:43.440
<v Speaker 1>No, I would have been five. I mean I would

1167
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:45.239
<v Speaker 1>have been like that with what I was watching.

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00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:48.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it would have crushed me if I saw

1169
00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:51.519
<v Speaker 2>it as a kid, Like it's like Watership Down level.

1170
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Like I had watched Watership Down probably about that time,

1171
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:56.079
<v Speaker 1>and that was very I.

1172
00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Had the book when I was a kid. What a

1173
00:59:57.760 --> 00:59:59.880
<v Speaker 2>thing to ask your parents for? I could have a

1174
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:04.159
<v Speaker 2>I flourish it down, Why it's horrible? I may as

1175
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.559
<v Speaker 2>well have asked for Jonathan Linson Seagull, speaking of bed

1176
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:13.639
<v Speaker 2>seventies stuff, I'm watching the brother pull his hands out

1177
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:16.079
<v Speaker 2>of the bed here and I love just like we said,

1178
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:20.760
<v Speaker 2>how calm he is that all the nerves in shock. Yeah,

1179
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:22.360
<v Speaker 2>he's like this is fine.

1180
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And like he was sad. It was like, oh, my

1181
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:26.519
<v Speaker 1>hands are gone.

1182
01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:29.599
<v Speaker 2>And then we cut to a soap opera sky like

1183
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:32.519
<v Speaker 2>The Days of the Week from SCTV. It just cuts

1184
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:36.360
<v Speaker 2>to this beautiful sky and then they're just hanging out

1185
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:41.440
<v Speaker 2>near the bed if you want to. I think Bill

1186
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:45.599
<v Speaker 2>still has copies of the driving Asilum number twenty four.

1187
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:47.719
<v Speaker 2>That's the issue that I did the interview with George

1188
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and he talked a lot about some cool stuff about it.

1189
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I think one of the really funny things is when

1190
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:55.599
<v Speaker 2>we were getting interviewed, he was asking me if I

1191
01:00:55.679 --> 01:01:01.199
<v Speaker 2>knew other you know, directors, and he's like, do you

1192
01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:03.519
<v Speaker 2>know what Jess Franco is? And it was like, nobody

1193
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:06.199
<v Speaker 2>has ever asked me a better question? By what? Like

1194
01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:08.599
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because when I set the transcript, but the Bill,

1195
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:11.159
<v Speaker 2>he goes, how excited were you when he asked question?

1196
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, I don't think I've

1197
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:17.320
<v Speaker 2>ever been more fired up about something. I think the

1198
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 2>other thing too, someone asked him like what directors he knew,

1199
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:23.960
<v Speaker 2>especially the people in Europe, and they had asked him

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01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:26.519
<v Speaker 2>like have you seen genre Rowlands films? And he's like who,

1201
01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:28.920
<v Speaker 2>and they're because this feels like one of his movies,

1202
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like it does have like that weird, like

1203
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:36.079
<v Speaker 2>drug hazy feel of one of his films, Like where

1204
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:40.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're on a always a beach, always fog always,

1205
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Vampires come out of grandfather clocks, do you know what

1206
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:46.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean? And it's just this like slow languid pace

1207
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and like you said, what time is it? Is it noon?

1208
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Is it midnight? Like? And that's kind of what I

1209
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:54.920
<v Speaker 2>like about this so much, especially like the ritual scenes

1210
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:56.639
<v Speaker 2>here at the end are really cool the way they're shot.

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01:01:57.519 --> 01:01:59.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I was thinking about genre on I thought

1212
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I was being aerudite and just intelligent and thinking like

1213
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:05.079
<v Speaker 1>you know what this is. Well I'm watching it. I'm like,

1214
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:08.239
<v Speaker 1>this reminds me of The Iron Rose. Oh yeah, John

1215
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:10.760
<v Speaker 1>rere Lan, And I was like, nobody else is gonna

1216
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:12.400
<v Speaker 1>make this connection. And then I read the chapter of

1217
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Nightmare US saying like immediately.

1218
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:20.960
<v Speaker 2>The Iron Rose, Like I love I love The Iron

1219
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Rose because it's like an hour and a half of

1220
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.119
<v Speaker 2>just like you could tell the story in a sentence,

1221
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:27.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's like you just gotta It's like a doom

1222
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Metal as a movie, you know what I mean. It's

1223
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:32.400
<v Speaker 2>like the same riff over and over again. But it's great.

1224
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:34.679
<v Speaker 2>It's a great rift. So like I love it, Like.

1225
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I love that they get locked in that cemetery, and

1226
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:43.199
<v Speaker 1>then she immediately goes in berserk, like yeah, just immediately.

1227
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Like there's no time, has no meaning there, like they

1228
01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:50.199
<v Speaker 2>could have been there for a thousand years, they could

1229
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:52.559
<v Speaker 2>have been there for two minutes. But she goes, you're right,

1230
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:56.280
<v Speaker 2>she goes berserk right away. She's also gorgeous. Everything's gorgeous

1231
01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:58.280
<v Speaker 2>in that movie. It's beautiful.

1232
01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:01.159
<v Speaker 1>So the other I thought about the Iron Rows, but

1233
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:03.679
<v Speaker 1>I think the movies I really thought about the most,

1234
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's these Again it's European influence, and it's weird

1235
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.760
<v Speaker 1>that he didn't really he wasn't really influenced by European

1236
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:13.840
<v Speaker 1>directors as much. And but I really thought about the

1237
01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:21.639
<v Speaker 1>films by Urii Hurts, the Czech filmmaker, and the stuff.

1238
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:25.119
<v Speaker 1>He'd had a lot of fairy tale movies like Beauty

1239
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:28.039
<v Speaker 1>to the East or Moregon. But the one that really

1240
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:30.639
<v Speaker 1>jumped out is the Vampire. I don't know if you've

1241
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:35.840
<v Speaker 1>seen about the car that that needs blood to run.

1242
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:40.119
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the one that I would probably pair with

1243
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:40.760
<v Speaker 1>this one.

1244
01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I'd pair this with Vowing or we could wonder. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of Shuck movies, which is a Gothic, it's a folk

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<v Speaker 2>horror movie. I guess right, that's probably a good way

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<v Speaker 2>of thinking about it. And there's another one that Visilven

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01:03:56.679 --> 01:04:00.880
<v Speaker 2>should just put out, Warren, which is uh has that

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01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.320
<v Speaker 2>same feel too. It's like just this weird village and

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01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.559
<v Speaker 2>stuff happens here. I'm astounded to by the end of

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01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:10.000
<v Speaker 2>this movie. The fire scenes are really like apocalyptic, Like

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01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.679
<v Speaker 2>when the bed finally burns, it looks awesome like they

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01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:17.000
<v Speaker 2>probably they had one shot at getting this tool and

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01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:22.719
<v Speaker 2>they it looks beautiful like and it's especially like as

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<v Speaker 2>we see the smoke coming in all over the artists

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01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:26.719
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like, it's really you can tell that he

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01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:29.280
<v Speaker 2>spent four years at post production on this, like it

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01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:31.440
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of thinking of how do I make

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<v Speaker 2>this all come together the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a shame that he didn't get to make more films,

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01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:39.119
<v Speaker 1>but I'm glad that no one that that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also interesting that I guess he never googled himself, Like,

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01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, do you ever google yourself? But with a

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<v Speaker 1>generic name like George Berry, maybe it'd be difficult to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I guess he just never googled Deathbed. He

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<v Speaker 1>just had to find it on that random forum. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it was early in the internet though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because the DVD release wasn't two thousand and three,

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01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:01.840
<v Speaker 2>so it was pretty early.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:09.360
<v Speaker 2>And also there was a stage play version of this

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01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:13.320
<v Speaker 2>that a couple of guys in the cast did in Detroit,

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01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:16.360
<v Speaker 2>and he gave them consent to do it, which I

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01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.519
<v Speaker 2>think is kind of cool. I wish someone had filmed

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01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:21.960
<v Speaker 2>because I'd love to see it. And then a lot

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01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:24.239
<v Speaker 2>of people learned about this because Patton Oswald that it

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01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:26.760
<v Speaker 2>was in his old stand up routine talking about him

1278
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.039
<v Speaker 2>finally seeing this movie and it like blowing his mind,

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01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:31.239
<v Speaker 2>and then it's a real movie. So that's I know,

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01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of people when there reviews, that's the

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01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 2>first thing they say, I discovered this movie out of nowhere,

1282
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:38.320
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like it just arrived to me,

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01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:40.960
<v Speaker 2>versus me hearing it from someone else. And those are

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01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.719
<v Speaker 2>the best ones, Like I love whenever you find something

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01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:46.159
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, I can't believe that this is that

1286
01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:49.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching this and it's happening. For Vampire is another

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01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:53.519
<v Speaker 2>great example of that. I was like, what it is

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01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:55.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a European riff on the car, which

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<v Speaker 2>I love, but it's like even better, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A vampire car like Yeah, yeah, that one has more

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01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:06.400
<v Speaker 1>political overtones of corporations or blood secking entities.

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01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:10.280
<v Speaker 2>There's that Jalli. They have changed their face too. This

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01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:16.320
<v Speaker 2>is a vampire cooperation seven sets. It was surprisingly great.

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01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought, yeah, weathern sets, they're kind of hidden, miss

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01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, but that one, that one really

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Lady Frankenston's on one of the sets, so it's

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01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:27.400
<v Speaker 2>really that's probably the only movie I ever need to

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01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.159
<v Speaker 2>watch again for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So do we have anything else about Deathbed?

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01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:34.679
<v Speaker 2>Please watch Deathbed. That's yes, it's easy. If it's on YouTube,

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01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:35.760
<v Speaker 2>it's easy to find.

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01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:39.800
<v Speaker 1>It was Actually, if you take all the films in

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01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Nightmare USA and sort them by film popularity, at least

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01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 1>according to the letterbox, it was the it's the twentieth

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01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:50.000
<v Speaker 1>most popular film on that list out of one hundred

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01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and forty seven, So it's I guess it's it's fairly

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01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:57.920
<v Speaker 1>well known, fairly seen. Has about eight thousand log views,

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01:06:58.039 --> 01:06:59.719
<v Speaker 1>which is more than I thought it would be, but

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01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:00.639
<v Speaker 1>not enough.

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01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right, So if you're listening to this and you've

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01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:06.840
<v Speaker 2>never seen it, should just listen to the rest of

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01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:12.119
<v Speaker 2>the show, so get yeah, yeah, yeah, watched it. I

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01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:15.119
<v Speaker 2>really like when older white guys talk about movies. People

1315
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:17.559
<v Speaker 2>are saying right now, and it's like, and I've enjoyed

1316
01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:20.840
<v Speaker 2>hearing YouTube boys talk and and someday I'll watch that movie.

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01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:23.360
<v Speaker 2>So one of my mom's friends is like in her

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01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:25.320
<v Speaker 2>nineties and listens to a lot of my podcasts, and

1319
01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh god, I talk about some apparent movies,

1320
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:31.039
<v Speaker 2>like is she gonna go watch a Dark Brothers movie? Now,

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01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:32.800
<v Speaker 2>my mom's like, don't watch any of the movies if

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01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:35.199
<v Speaker 2>he talks about She's like, he makes them sound so interesting.

1323
01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:37.760
<v Speaker 2>She's like, yeah, I know they're not, just don't watch them.

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01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully she's not.

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01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:44.159
<v Speaker 1>So, now where do we go from here? And it's

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01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 1>my pick, and you have no idea what I'm going

1327
01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:49.159
<v Speaker 1>to pick, right. I put a lot of thought into

1328
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.400
<v Speaker 1>this one, what the next one's going to be, and when,

1329
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:55.800
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of different directions. But what I decided was

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01:07:56.199 --> 01:08:02.119
<v Speaker 1>that the next episode will drop and mid to late August,

1331
01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:05.519
<v Speaker 1>and so I thought, maybe dark August for August, but

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01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:07.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be dark August. It's not going

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01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:09.679
<v Speaker 1>to be dark. Oh I didn't get around to watching.

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01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:13.159
<v Speaker 1>You got me excited next maybe next August we'll be

1335
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:18.640
<v Speaker 1>dark unless before then. But I thought, well, you know,

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01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:21.760
<v Speaker 1>school is school will be starting, and this will be

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01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the first year where I don't have any bested interest

1338
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:30.239
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning of school starting because my daughter graduated

1339
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:32.319
<v Speaker 1>from college. And I was like, man, it's like my

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01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:34.640
<v Speaker 1>whole life, either I've been starting school or college or

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01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:36.640
<v Speaker 1>a kid's been in school or college. I said, there's

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01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:41.119
<v Speaker 1>plenty of school based films in this book. So the

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01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:43.800
<v Speaker 1>one I'm going to go with is Girls' Night Out

1344
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:50.079
<v Speaker 1>aka The Scare Maker Wow, and that is set in

1345
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a university. There's some slashing, there's some there's a black glove,

1346
01:08:54.640 --> 01:09:02.439
<v Speaker 1>there's a bear glove. And I watched it yesterday. I

1347
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:04.199
<v Speaker 1>think I feel like I like it, maybe more than

1348
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. And then I watched it again

1349
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:07.439
<v Speaker 1>and I think I like it even more than I

1350
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:07.960
<v Speaker 1>did the first.

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01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to watch it again so that I

1352
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:12.319
<v Speaker 2>can meet you there somewhere.

1353
01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:14.800
<v Speaker 1>You did not care for this movie.

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01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like it the first time I saw it,

1355
01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:18.399
<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to go back and watch it again.

1356
01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Let me see what I gave it. On a Winter Box.

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01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm there right now. I gave it. I gave it

1358
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:26.000
<v Speaker 2>two and a half. It's not horrible for me, so yeah,

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01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I probably dug it.

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01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think it fits a lot of what

1361
01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:35.880
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about before of liking slashers that are boring

1362
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:40.039
<v Speaker 1>in which not a whole lot happens. Initially, for the

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01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:43.479
<v Speaker 1>first thirty minutes, there's nothing, and it's just a kind

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01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:46.079
<v Speaker 1>of a hangout there, kind of at a party, and

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01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:49.920
<v Speaker 1>then then then the slashing starts and it goes from

1366
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:53.640
<v Speaker 1>there to scavenger hunt, just all these things that I like,

1367
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:57.600
<v Speaker 1>college parties, scavenger hunts. What year is it? Who knows?

1368
01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:02.960
<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk about the Loving Spoon and Ohio Express.

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01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh and I'm so excited that you like it.

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01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:08.439
<v Speaker 1>I hope you like it more than you did the

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01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:09.399
<v Speaker 1>last time you watched it.

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01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I like it more than to a while good night,

1373
01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:13.680
<v Speaker 2>so that I guess that's good.

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01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, we'll get to that one maybe right.

1375
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I have my pick in my head, but I'll say

1376
01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:22.920
<v Speaker 2>next episode, we'll do the reveal like that. I'll tell

1377
01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you often. Yeah, but that's how we'll build our audience.

1378
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Make sure that you share like all the things rate

1379
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:31.520
<v Speaker 2>please rate the show. Gosh, I think two people rated it.

1380
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:35.199
<v Speaker 2>No one ever rates mine, like you know, that'd be nice.

1381
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, society as a whole has stopped just liking, like

1382
01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:42.079
<v Speaker 1>giving the likes or reviews or things. My wife's on

1383
01:10:42.119 --> 01:10:43.960
<v Speaker 1>this all the time, Like when she posted my daughter's

1384
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:47.079
<v Speaker 1>wedding photos, She's like, nobody's liked it. Like people just don't.

1385
01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:50.319
<v Speaker 1>They just don't like it. And now, like on Instagram,

1386
01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:53.159
<v Speaker 1>if you like something, then you can see, like there's

1387
01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:54.760
<v Speaker 1>another thing where you can see what they liked. And

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01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:56.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, I don't want people to know what

1389
01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I liked, especially some of the things that I would like, Yeah,

1390
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:00.880
<v Speaker 1>want them judging me.

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01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:03.479
<v Speaker 2>I have like two or three friends that every time

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01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:06.399
<v Speaker 2>there's like, you know, a girl post on there, they're

1393
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:08.359
<v Speaker 2>the ones that I'm like, God, those perfts and I'm like,

1394
01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna like this post. And they know who

1395
01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:15.199
<v Speaker 2>they are. They're listening. I know who you are. Versus

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01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:17.840
<v Speaker 2>the anonymous early days of the internet. Movie you know

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01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I could do that, I guess. Yeah, we've been on

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01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:23.199
<v Speaker 2>again a long time though.

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01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So if you like, please go like the show,

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01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:33.159
<v Speaker 1>review it on Instagram, follow us on Instagram, and do

1401
01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:36.079
<v Speaker 1>you have anything. Oh, I saw you. You've updated your

1402
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:38.880
<v Speaker 1>website and being this about movies has a new interface

1403
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:41.960
<v Speaker 1>or the technical design on it's different, the layouts different.

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01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I love it. Thank you. Yeah. WordPress got rid of

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01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:51.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the independent templates that they had, so

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01:11:52.279 --> 01:11:54.359
<v Speaker 2>they put a white block in the middle of my

1407
01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:57.319
<v Speaker 2>template so you couldn't read any words, and I was

1408
01:11:57.399 --> 01:12:02.039
<v Speaker 2>like panicking. You know all eight people that come there

1409
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:05.000
<v Speaker 2>and you're included, and so I was like, I got

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01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:06.800
<v Speaker 2>to fix it. And then I found that template. I'm like,

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01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:09.319
<v Speaker 2>this is actually cleaner looking, and it made me happy.

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01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:12.119
<v Speaker 1>So it was not my design. You were forced into this.

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01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Well it was forced into it. But also like I

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01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:17.439
<v Speaker 2>went back and like went through a couple of different

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01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:20.199
<v Speaker 2>iterations and I'm happy where I ended up. And I'm

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01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:23.239
<v Speaker 2>learning I was using the old way of entering stuff

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01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:27.800
<v Speaker 2>in and now I'm actually using the real word press thing.

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01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Like before there was like an older way that was

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01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:31.880
<v Speaker 2>easier to see things. Now you have to do a

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01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:34.319
<v Speaker 2>little bit of htmout, but it's fine, it's not hard

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01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 2>to do. So yeah, I'm in the middle of finishing.

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01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I did USA up on Night Movies in July and

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01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:46.960
<v Speaker 2>then August is going to be simple Danting adventure video

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01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:52.760
<v Speaker 2>for releases. There's like twenty six of them. Yeah, and

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01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm part way through that. I watched a really great

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01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:59.239
<v Speaker 2>one the other day, killing Machine aka Gordon. To this

1427
01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:03.840
<v Speaker 2>movie's cast, it's amazing, Like, uh, it's the kind of

1428
01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:08.840
<v Speaker 2>cast that that only I would would appreciate. I think, well,

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01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I think you would appreciate it too. But listen to

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01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:18.039
<v Speaker 2>this cast. Margot Hemingway, Lee van Cleef, Jorge Rivero from Conquest,

1431
01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:23.199
<v Speaker 2>He's Mace in Conquest. Uh, Anna Obergone from u Bo,

1432
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Derek's friend in Balero, Alto Simbrelly, Frank Jack Richard, Jekyl, Hugo, Stieglitz.

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01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:33.239
<v Speaker 2>And then of all those people, what if Willy Ames

1434
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:36.119
<v Speaker 2>was in it? Yes, Willy Eames is in it. Uh,

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01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:39.520
<v Speaker 2>he's or Rivero's best friend. What how? What world do

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01:13:39.600 --> 01:13:45.920
<v Speaker 2>we live in? Yeah, it's a trucker terrorist movie about

1437
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:50.680
<v Speaker 2>how much Spanish and French truckers hate each other. You know,

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01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:52.520
<v Speaker 2>it's a Lee van Cleef movie. So that's why I

1439
01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:55.479
<v Speaker 2>watched it. And it's also a simple Danic adventure video

1440
01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:57.760
<v Speaker 2>one because people would writ those movies because they thought

1441
01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:00.399
<v Speaker 2>she was in them. Suddenly they're given a movie crusty

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01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:03.000
<v Speaker 2>old dudes like Leavy and Cleef in it. Uh, and

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01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:06.439
<v Speaker 2>they were very upset. People were upset back in the

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01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:08.079
<v Speaker 2>eighties by stuff like that, like give me my three

1445
01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:11.079
<v Speaker 2>dollars for this rental back today, I'm like, you should

1446
01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:13.760
<v Speaker 2>be so lucky that you get snared with the wrong movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, went on the site. Because I listened to your

1448
01:14:18.840 --> 01:14:21.800
<v Speaker 1>podcast about Piazadora, I suddenly want to watch Butterfly And

1449
01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:22.319
<v Speaker 1>what was that.

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01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:28.560
<v Speaker 2>The Only Lady, The Lady the Voyage of the Rock Aliens. Yeah, right,

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01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:32.520
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, And I forgot. I forgot that Carolyn Dfenseca,

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01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:35.319
<v Speaker 2>who's the ghost on my show, is in The Lonely Lady,

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01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:38.840
<v Speaker 2>not voice, She's actually in it. And uh so I'm

1454
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:42.520
<v Speaker 2>sure I'll be called out by Carolyn Defenseca on that right,

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01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:46.920
<v Speaker 2>by her ghost. But uh my mom had the Lonely

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01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:50.239
<v Speaker 2>hardback of The Lonely Lady and it was like hidden

1457
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:52.359
<v Speaker 2>right because it was like one of those like dirty books.

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01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:55.039
<v Speaker 2>And uh when I found out that there was one

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01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.680
<v Speaker 2>on HBO, it would only air at like four ten am.

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01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:01.600
<v Speaker 2>And I set my alarm port by pillow. We didn't

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01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:03.840
<v Speaker 2>have a VCR, and I snuck down and watched The

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01:15:03.880 --> 01:15:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Lonely Lady. I was like eleven years old, way too

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01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:10.079
<v Speaker 2>young for that movie. Holy shit, I love it so much.

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01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:13.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like very watch original. If you like Valley of

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01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:17.359
<v Speaker 2>the Dolls Good News, it's in the same feels as

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01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:22.199
<v Speaker 2>one of those like Jacqueliness handbooks. It's it's sleeve, it's

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01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:23.119
<v Speaker 2>absolute sleeze.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember watching. Well, speaking of HBO, we did have

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01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a VCR. We had two VCRs. My wife says we

1470
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:32.640
<v Speaker 1>were rich, and I said we weren't rich, but just

1471
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:35.680
<v Speaker 1>my parents spent money on things, and then they repossessed

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01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:40.000
<v Speaker 1>our house. But I wouldn't call that they made bad

1473
01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:45.600
<v Speaker 1>financial choices. But we remember taping The Lady in Red

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01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:50.479
<v Speaker 1>late one night, of course on Cinemax or HBO, thinking

1475
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:55.760
<v Speaker 1>it was the Woman in Red, the gm Alder comedy

1476
01:15:56.640 --> 01:16:00.760
<v Speaker 1>with What Say I Love You from Weird Sign The

1477
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:01.880
<v Speaker 1>theme song was I Just.

1478
01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Called to Say I Love Kelly LeBrock.

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01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:07.039
<v Speaker 1>That's who it is, Yes, Kelly Lebron. It was so

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01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting a Gene Wilder Kelly Lebron and I

1481
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:16.199
<v Speaker 1>get the Lady in Gangs. Yeah, women in Prison, well

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01:16:16.239 --> 01:16:19.159
<v Speaker 1>part of its Women in Prison, So yeah, that was.

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01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:22.439
<v Speaker 1>That was an eye opener for me. Uh as a kid.

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01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:28.199
<v Speaker 2>My favorite Kelly Lebron references in Ghost House, the Italian

1485
01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:30.920
<v Speaker 2>horror movie. There's one scene where they're trying to convince

1486
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you that it's an American movie, and they say, who's

1487
01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:35.640
<v Speaker 2>the most popular star in your town? Is it Silon

1488
01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Labon or Kelly Lebron And she goes, no, one cares

1489
01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:41.640
<v Speaker 2>about Silon Lebond anymore. And I'm like, and they're on

1490
01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:44.279
<v Speaker 2>a Ham radio talking about this, and then they talk

1491
01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:47.199
<v Speaker 2>about Chili and it's like, kids, we're in America. No

1492
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you're not. You're fucking Italy. I see right through you.

1493
01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:54.439
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Kelly Brock was a big deal on my town.

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01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:57.840
<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm say so.

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01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:01.199
<v Speaker 1>And then also drive in Asylum. Think again. By the

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01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:02.960
<v Speaker 1>time this releases, you'll be a couple of weeks late.

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01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:05.920
<v Speaker 1>But I saw you're doing Parents and Empire the Ants.

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01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

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01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:07.840
<v Speaker 1>You have never seen parents.

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01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen parents either. I've seen Empire of the

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01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Ants so many times. I have a big Joan Collins crush,

1502
01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:19.279
<v Speaker 2>and she is both the She's the human villain of

1503
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Empire the Ants and I love her so much.

1504
01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I love yeah, I loved Empower the Ants and John Collins.

1505
01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Apparently John Collins did not love the experience.

1506
01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:32.920
<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. It's so funny because we're always like, oh,

1507
01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:35.520
<v Speaker 2>poor Joan every time we hear in these movies, because like,

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01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be born as another one. If

1509
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.119
<v Speaker 2>you've seen that one, I haven't.

1510
01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:41.800
<v Speaker 1>It's been on my watch list.

1511
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:46.520
<v Speaker 2>God move it on up. Because there is this small

1512
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:49.920
<v Speaker 2>muscular man that works at the strip club with her,

1513
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:53.520
<v Speaker 2>that's in love with her, and she keeps leading him

1514
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:55.640
<v Speaker 2>on and leading him on and finally tells him she

1515
01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:58.880
<v Speaker 2>hooks up with the owner and leaves behind stripping and

1516
01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:02.039
<v Speaker 2>like insults him. He somehow knows black magic, so he

1517
01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:04.600
<v Speaker 2>curses their child so that he's reborn in their child.

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01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:07.279
<v Speaker 2>It's shit, just gets wild, it's so good.

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01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:11.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's the worst and I just haven't.

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01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's like the shittiest Rosemaries baby movie baby in England.

1521
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:18.880
<v Speaker 2>But I love it for that. But yeah, I'm so

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01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:23.039
<v Speaker 2>excited to watch ron I've never never seen it. No,

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01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:24.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited.

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01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I always loved finding film you haven't seen. I want

1525
01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:31.479
<v Speaker 1>to where's that letterbox list? Films? Sam Panic is not seen?

1526
01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:35.319
<v Speaker 2>We should do that. I think. I guess it's definitely okay.

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01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:38.000
<v Speaker 1>So join us the next time. We're gonna talk about

1528
01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:40.000
<v Speaker 1>girls Night Out and we're gonna hope Sam likes it

1529
01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:42.079
<v Speaker 1>more than he did the first time, and if not,

1530
01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that's okay too. And it's available. I know it's available

1531
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:47.720
<v Speaker 1>on the Arrow, I have the Blu Ray and on

1532
01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Era video Player, and maybe available other places. And so

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01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:54.720
<v Speaker 1>join us, then we'll talk to you later.

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01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I've got another if you'd like, let us.

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01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to get out right here.