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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on about Robert Kennedy Junior making
Speaker 2: some comments about autism. How I'm saying it is reached
Speaker 2: epidemic levels and he wants the CDC to look into it. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's let's discuss autism. Autism is a spectrum disorder and
Speaker 2: the reason why we want to focus on that word disorder.
Speaker 2: Let's focus on that for a second. And what you're
Speaker 2: gonna find out is that autism is a different way
Speaker 2: of wiring the brain so that it will function. Nature
Speaker 2: is an amazing thing and it produced this alternative way
Speaker 2: for our brain to function. And autism is that there
Speaker 2: are different levels of autism and different ways to get
Speaker 2: through to each person so that you can communicate and
Speaker 2: find out their ideas. When you manage to unlock those
Speaker 2: ideas that each and every person has within them, you
Speaker 2: find that wait a second, it's a different wiring of
Speaker 2: the brain. That means their brain actually functions and it
Speaker 2: functions at a very in a very different way. Notice
Speaker 2: I'm not using any terms that would denounce intelligence or
Speaker 2: or state something that there is a cure in the
Speaker 2: leading back to what Robert Kennedy Jr. Is actually driving
Speaker 2: at with the idea of bringing the CDC board to
Speaker 2: examine why autism is at a all time epidemic. High
Speaker 2: epidemic needs the curable disease. There is no cure for
Speaker 2: autism because it's not a disease. There is no fixing
Speaker 2: the brain because there's nothing wrong with a person's brain
Speaker 2: who has autism. There is only a matter of understanding.
Speaker 2: And it would seem that once again that in order
Speaker 2: to put an agenda forth that mister Trump and his
Speaker 2: administration has to denounce something else that is wonderful and beautiful.
Speaker 2: I will tell you this that I have been doing
Speaker 2: doing radio and podcasting broadcasting for quite a number of years,
Speaker 2: and one of my longtime partners has autism, and he
Speaker 2: was one of the best broadcasters I've ever met because
Speaker 2: he was able to focus on details that Hey, with
Speaker 2: my normal wiring of the brain was not able to see.
Speaker 2: He was able to hear things differently. He was able
Speaker 2: to see a different path of interesting. I just keep
Speaker 2: using the word different or diverse because that is what
Speaker 2: autism actually is. It is a different wiring. It is
Speaker 2: a nature creating diversity within the human species. Okay, so
Speaker 2: this next recording you're gonna hear leads back to some
Speaker 2: of my roots in broadcasting. One of the shows that
Speaker 2: Kelly Rayburn and I did together, and Kelly is that
Speaker 2: partner that I've talked about and long long term friend
Speaker 2: that I've talked about with autism, and he produced this
Speaker 2: next episode of Community Living, and that Community Living podcast
Speaker 2: you also you cannot actually listen to its entirety under
Speaker 2: our umbrella ads community living podcasts, but I'm going to
Speaker 2: post it up again because I think that this is
Speaker 2: important to understand that autism is a brain function. It
Speaker 2: is not a disease. It's not necessarily a disorder. It's
Speaker 2: just a diverse functioning of the brain, and that we
Speaker 2: should respect that and we should also listen to people
Speaker 2: that have it, because there is no such thing as
Speaker 2: stupidity or any of those other really outdated terms that
Speaker 2: we just find a way to communicate together in harmony.
Speaker 2: So let's move forward into the Community Living podcast as
Speaker 2: recorded by Kelly Rayburn about autism and r f k's
Speaker 2: junior's statements.
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Speaker 3: This is the Community Living podcast on Depictions Media Radio.
Speaker 3: I'm Kelly Reeburn or known as kJ ray for Gums
Speaker 3: and Maples, Episode fifteen. We're going to talk about some
Speaker 3: issues on autism. Now. Two days ago, I believe RFK
Speaker 3: Robert Ford Kennedy has addressed the conference on the new
Speaker 3: issues on autism fundings and the issues from the CDC,
Speaker 3: the disease control and the Centers for Disease and Control Prevention.
Speaker 3: So basically he's going to talk about many of the
Speaker 3: issues that has come up with the House and Human
Speaker 3: Services Secretary from Robert F. Kennedy Junior, and discussion on
Speaker 3: the latest Autism and Developmental Disabilities monitoring, the a DDM
Speaker 3: network survey, the centers from these control and prevention in America.
Speaker 3: So it's about thirty minutes. It's about thirty minutes clip
Speaker 3: of how Robert RFK Jr. Has talked about on the
Speaker 3: issues dealing with the CDC and I'm guessing could be
Speaker 3: dealing with vaccine issues and stuff like that that might
Speaker 3: be happening in and around America. So here now is
Speaker 3: a clip of RFK Junior holding the press coverance on
Speaker 3: the latest fundings with Autism through to the CDC. If
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Speaker 3: holding press conference on the Autism fundings for the CDC.
Speaker 4: Enjoy Human Services, Welcome to the process and the supporters
Speaker 4: of the MAHA movement who are here today to listen
Speaker 4: to Secretary Kennedy and Walter Zaharandi's remarks regarding the CDC's
Speaker 4: latest Autism and Developmental Disabilities Monitoring Network survey that was
Speaker 4: published yesterday in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.
Speaker 4: I am honored to introduce to you Secretary Robert F.
Speaker 4: Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 5: I'm going to go over some of the key numbers
Speaker 5: from the eight m report. Overall, the autism is is
Speaker 5: increasing in prevalence, had an alarming rate. The study tests
Speaker 5: eight year olds who were born in twenty fourteen, and
Speaker 5: by the way, these studies are two years later than
Speaker 5: they should be. And one of the things that we're
Speaker 5: going to do is we remove this function to the
Speaker 5: Administration for Healthy America to the Chronic Disease The new
Speaker 5: Chronic Disease Division is we are going to have updated
Speaker 5: real time data so that people can look at this.
Speaker 5: Americans can understand what is happening with chronic disease in
Speaker 5: this country in real time. And I'd have to wait
Speaker 5: two years to react. We don't wait two years to
Speaker 5: react to a measless epidemic, and we should not or
Speaker 5: a diaby or any kind of infectious disease. We shouldn't
Speaker 5: have to do that for diabetes or autism. The ASD
Speaker 5: prevalence rate in eight year old this is now one
Speaker 5: in thirty one, shocking. There's an extreme risk for boys.
Speaker 2: Over all.
Speaker 5: The risk for boys of getting an autism diagnosis in
Speaker 5: this country is now one in twenty and is high
Speaker 5: in California, which has the best DAID of collection. Oh
Speaker 5: it probably also reflects a national trend one in twelve
Speaker 5: point five boys. This is part of an unrelenting upward trend.
Speaker 5: The prevalence two years ago was one in thirty six.
Speaker 5: Since the first eighty DM report in nineteen ninety, which
Speaker 5: was nineteen ninety two berths autism has increased by a
Speaker 5: factor of four point eight. It's four hundred and eighty percent.
Speaker 5: I believe the first eighty DM the survey was twenty
Speaker 5: two years ago. One prevalence was one in fifty one
Speaker 5: in one hundred and fifty children in all the core states.
Speaker 5: The trend is consistently upward, and most cases now are severe,
Speaker 5: so about twenty five percent of the kids who are
Speaker 5: diagnosed with autism are nonverbal, non toilet trained, and have
Speaker 5: other stereotypical features headbanging, tactile and light sensitivities, stemming, toe walking,
Speaker 5: et cetera. One of the things that I think that
Speaker 5: we need to move away from today is this is
Speaker 5: this ideology that this that the autism diagnoses, that the
Speaker 5: autism prevalence increase, that the relentless increases are simply artifacts
Speaker 5: of better diagnoses, better recognition, or changing diagnostic criteria. If
Speaker 5: you look at Table three of the ad DM report,
Speaker 5: it's clear that the rates are real, that they are
Speaker 5: increasing in the last ten years, year by which is
Speaker 5: the fruit beginning with the first one. Year by year,
Speaker 5: there is a steady, relentless increase. I want it because
Speaker 5: this this epidemic denial has become a feature in the
Speaker 5: mainstream media, and it's based on an industry canard. And
Speaker 5: obviously there are people who don't want us to look
Speaker 5: at environmental exposures, and so I want to just read
Speaker 5: you some of the little excerpts from some of the
Speaker 5: older studies. The baseline for autism in this country was
Speaker 5: established with the biggest, the largest epidemiological study in history,
Speaker 5: a study of all nine hundred thousand children in the
Speaker 5: state of Wisconsin children under the age of twelve. They
Speaker 5: found point seven point seven children and autism meant every
Speaker 5: ten thousand. That's less than one in ten thousand. Today
Speaker 5: we're one in thirty one. The that study also confirmed
Speaker 5: the for to one male to female ratio. There were
Speaker 5: at that time just over sixty children in Wisconsin with autism,
Speaker 5: and today it's around twenty thousand. In nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 5: there was another exhaustive study, a peer viewed study in
Speaker 5: North Dakota set out to count every child in the
Speaker 5: state with a pervasive developmental disorder, including autism. That study
Speaker 5: meticulously can through every record, every diagnosis, and he even
Speaker 5: conducted the in person assessments of the entire population of
Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty thousand children under eighteen. The autism
Speaker 5: rate they found was three point three per ten thousand,
Speaker 5: So that's in line with a one in ten thousand
Speaker 5: that was found in Wisconsin seventeen years earlier or contexts today,
Speaker 5: the last number of one in thirty six is eighty
Speaker 5: three times higher. In nineteen eighty seven, out of every
Speaker 5: one million kids, three hundred and thirty were diagnosed with autism. Today,
Speaker 5: there are twenty seven thousand, seven hundred and seventy seven
Speaker 5: for every million. If you accept the epidemic deniers narrative,
Speaker 5: you have to believe that researches in North Dakota missed
Speaker 5: ninety eight point eight percent of the children with autism,
Speaker 5: and thousands of profoundly disabled children were somehow invisible to doctors, teachers, parents,
Speaker 5: and even their own study. The same researchers who followed
Speaker 5: the original cohort for twelve years to double checked their number.
Speaker 5: They went back in two thousand and found that they
Speaker 5: had missed exactly one child. So doctors and therapists in
Speaker 5: the past were not stupid, They weren't missing all these cases.
Speaker 5: The epidemic Israel. Between nineteen fifty nine and nineteen to
Speaker 5: sixty five, researchers from fourteen hospitals associated with major universities
Speaker 5: undertook the National Collaborative Perinatal Project, tracking thirty thousand children
Speaker 5: from birth to age eight. This was no a half
Speaker 5: big survey based analysis. The study conducted nine separate screenings
Speaker 5: covering neurology, psychology, speech, language, hearing, and visual function. Every
Speaker 5: developmental quirk anominally in disorder was logged with painstaking detail.
Speaker 5: Autism condition characterized by profound impairments and social communication and
Speaker 5: behavior would have stood out like a fashion, like a
Speaker 5: neon sign. There were fourteen cases as four point seven
Speaker 5: per ten thousand. So we know what the historic numbers are,
Speaker 5: and we know what the numbers are today. And it's
Speaker 5: time for everybody stop attributing this to this ideology of
Speaker 5: epidemic denial and was in In two thousand and nine,
Speaker 5: the California State Legislature charged the Mind Institute of UC
Speaker 5: Davis with because this myth was already becoming pervasive. The
Speaker 5: myth of epidemic denial was already becoming pervasive in the
Speaker 5: mainstream media. The California Legislature directed the Mind Institute of
Speaker 5: u SEE Davis to answer the question, and Irva Hertz Pahoto,
Speaker 5: is a highly esteem revered as a scientist, neurology and epidemologists,
Speaker 5: came back with a definitive answer. The epidemic Israel. Only
Speaker 5: a very very small portion of it can be changed,
Speaker 5: A better can be charged, a better recognition or better diagnosicteria.
Speaker 5: I want to say a couple of other things. There
Speaker 5: are many, many other studies that are firm this and
Speaker 5: instead of listening to this is a canard of epidemic denial.
Speaker 5: All you have to do is start reading a little
Speaker 5: science because the answer is very clear and this is
Speaker 5: catastrophic for our country. There's a recent study by blackxail
Speaker 5: at All and a team of other researchers said that
Speaker 5: the cause of treating autism in this country by twenty
Speaker 5: thirty five, so within ten years, will be a trillion
Speaker 5: dollars a year. This is added to already astronomical health
Speaker 5: care costs. And then there's an individual injury. These are
Speaker 5: kids that this is a preventable disease. We know it's
Speaker 5: an environmental exposure. It has to be. Genes do not
Speaker 5: cause epidemics. They can provide a vulnerability. You need an
Speaker 5: environmental toxin and our erv hurtz. Buta Shoda pointed out
Speaker 5: that that because of this mythology tend to the amount
Speaker 5: of money and resources put into studying genetic causes, which
Speaker 5: is a dead end, has been historically ten to twenty
Speaker 5: times the amount to spent by NIAGE and other agencies
Speaker 5: to study environmental factors, to study exposures, to study external factors,
Speaker 5: and that's where we're going to find the answer. This
Speaker 5: is an individual tragedy as well. Autism destroys families. More importantly,
Speaker 5: it destroys our greatest resource, which are our children. These
Speaker 5: are children who should not be who should not be
Speaker 5: suffering like this. These are kids who, many of them,
Speaker 5: were fully functional and regressed because of some environmental exposure
Speaker 5: into autism when they're two years old. And these are
Speaker 5: kids who will never pay taxes, they'll never hold a job,
Speaker 5: they'll never play baseball, they'll never write a poem, they'll
Speaker 5: never go out on a date. Many of them will
Speaker 5: never use a toilet unassisted. And we have to recognize
Speaker 5: we are doing this to our children, and we need
Speaker 5: to put an end to it. And I think I'm
Speaker 5: going to have Walter Zahar Rodney, who is the most
Speaker 5: senior researcher for this project for ADDM, and who's been
Speaker 5: doing this for many years, to come up and say
Speaker 5: a little.
Speaker 6: Good morning, thank you for being here. I'm here as
Speaker 6: a long term autism researcher and a clinical psychologist. I
Speaker 6: get to wear two hats. One with patients and families
Speaker 6: trying to help them get to a diagnosis and to
Speaker 6: interventions and treatments, but also for the last twenty plus
Speaker 6: years as the director of the New Jersey Autism Study,
Speaker 6: which is a CDC sponsored autism surveillance system. We've monitored
Speaker 6: autism in New Jersey in concert with the Centers for
Speaker 6: Disease Control and Prevention since two thousand. When we began
Speaker 6: our endeavor with CDC, we expected to do maybe two
Speaker 6: or three baseline studies to establish how many children have autism,
Speaker 6: because it was not expected that autism prevalence would increase.
Speaker 6: Other childhood disabilities, neurologic disorders do not increase or change
Speaker 6: over time. But somehow, for some reason, with autism, everything
Speaker 6: was different. Autism went from being a very unusual, rare
Speaker 6: disability which affected, as the Secretary said, one child in
Speaker 6: maybe ten thousand, to being known in every community, every
Speaker 6: school district, every center that cares for children with disabilities.
Speaker 6: Autism is real. It's a true disability. It's not a
Speaker 6: personal quirky issue. Everything is changed for the individual with autism,
Speaker 6: and while there's a wide range of expression, it does
Speaker 6: change the family and it does inevitably change the community.
Speaker 6: In the society in which we find it, autism prevalence
Speaker 6: has increased very dramatically. It's increased in New Jersey where
Speaker 6: we have excellent resources and access to services, and it's
Speaker 6: increased in all the states in the network. It's increased
Speaker 6: not only by the CDC ATOM network active surveillance activities,
Speaker 6: but it's increased according to federal idea, statistics and information
Speaker 6: from multitude of surveys. It is a true increase. There
Speaker 6: is better awareness of autism, but better awareness of autism
Speaker 6: cannot be driving disability like autism to increase by three
Speaker 6: hundred percent in twenty years. That's what we saw on
Speaker 6: New Jersey. That's what the CDC report of yesterday indicates,
Speaker 6: and that's what, in my opinion, future reports from epidemiologists
Speaker 6: will show. The data provided in yesterday's report strongly suggests
Speaker 6: that not only is this a high point of autism prevalence,
Speaker 6: but in the future rates can only be higher. Autism
Speaker 6: deserves to be treated as a real public health phenomenon,
Speaker 6: and I would say is an urgent public health crisis.
Speaker 6: It's not just that we're more astute or perceptive. It's
Speaker 6: not like these it's not like two or three children
Speaker 6: out of for everyone with autism has remained invisible. Autism
Speaker 6: is striking and the consequences are life long. So I
Speaker 6: would urge everyone to consider the likelihood that autism, whether
Speaker 6: you call it an epidemic, tsunami, or a surge of autism,
Speaker 6: is a real thing that we don't understand, and it
Speaker 6: must be triggered or caused by environmental or risk factors.
Speaker 6: We need to address this question seriously, because, in my opinion,
Speaker 6: for the last twenty years, we've collected data but not
Speaker 6: made real progress in understanding of what causes autism or
Speaker 6: how to effectively prevent it or treat it effectively. So
Speaker 6: I urge you to read the report very carefully. I
Speaker 6: urge you to do something that nobody does and go
Speaker 6: into the many supplemental tables and see that autism is
Speaker 6: a true phenomenon, and that we need a correct perception,
Speaker 6: not a perception that allows us to just provide services
Speaker 6: without understanding the root causes or the true factors at play.
Speaker 6: So thank you for your attention. I wish we could
Speaker 6: answer questions.
Speaker 5: I think we can. Let me just say one other thing.
Speaker 5: I read a I referred to a number of studies.
Speaker 5: There are many, many, many others in the scientific literature
Speaker 5: that absolutely explode this mythology that this is. You know,
Speaker 5: that the autism epidemic is not real. If you read
Speaker 5: the literature, it is absolutely it is absolutely indefensible to
Speaker 5: continue to promote this. But it doesn't take you to
Speaker 5: read the literature. It just takes a little common sense.
Speaker 5: If autism, if the epidemic is an artifact, a better
Speaker 5: diagnostic criteria or better recognition, And why are we not
Speaker 5: seeing it in older people? Why is this only happening
Speaker 5: in young people? You know? I asked Walter before we
Speaker 5: came out here, I said, have you ever seen anybody
Speaker 5: our age? I'm seventy one years old with full blown autism,
Speaker 5: head banging, uh, nonverbal, non toilet trained, stimming, toe walking,
Speaker 5: these other stereotypical features. Where are these people walking around
Speaker 5: them all? You can't find them. They're not in homes.
Speaker 5: There are no homes for them, there are no institutions
Speaker 5: for them. Why are we seeing them on the street?
Speaker 5: Anybody can look around and see that this is a canard,
Speaker 5: And then you have to ask yourself why is it
Speaker 5: so pervasive? Why has it been thrown up against us
Speaker 5: for so many years? And clearly there are industries. This
Speaker 5: is coming from an environmental toxin, and somebody made a
Speaker 5: profit by putting that environmental toxin into our air, our water,
Speaker 5: our medicines, our food. And it's their benefit to say
Speaker 5: all to normalize it, to say all this is all normal,
Speaker 5: it's always been here. But that's not good for our country.
Speaker 5: It's not good for the press to not be more inquisitive,
Speaker 5: to not be more skeptical. And within three weeks, and
Speaker 5: probably we're hoping in two weeks, we're gonna announce a
Speaker 5: series of new studies to identify precisely what the environmental
Speaker 5: toxins are that are causing it. This has not been
Speaker 5: done before, and we're gonna do it in a thorough
Speaker 5: and comprehensive way. And we're gonna get back to when
Speaker 5: with an answer to the American people very very quickly. Great,
Speaker 5: thank you, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 7: I was not diagnosed with autism to take that charity
Speaker 7: for whis it took me five years to get dig
Speaker 7: us later. You also talk about the fact that the
Speaker 7: numbers increase with black and the GP you your own
Speaker 7: studies and your own study says these bodies are indicate
Speaker 7: that improvements as the awareness identification of passes to services
Speaker 7: and communities above black and lets you bespect and hey,
Speaker 7: you can get children.
Speaker 2: How to true?
Speaker 7: Do you think that? D do you think that or
Speaker 7: are you denying that?
Speaker 2: The past black.
Speaker 7: Lets you know, the young people had not been diagnosed,
Speaker 7: the diagnosed or to be able to They've been disciplinedly
Speaker 7: that incarcerated, and now they're finally getting the services that
Speaker 7: they need.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I and and there are there are smallest
Speaker 5: livers of the autism epidemic, maybe ten percent to twenty
Speaker 5: five percent according to the studies highest studies, around twenty
Speaker 5: five percent that can be attributed to to a better
Speaker 5: recognition and better diagnosis. U. That means eighty five percent
Speaker 5: or are are still or seventy five percent to eighty
Speaker 5: percent are still are part of an epidemic. And that
Speaker 5: is too many. And and that is what we need
Speaker 5: to address.
Speaker 4: Walter, do you have something you'd like to add?
Speaker 6: There's better recognition of autism and better awareness because there
Speaker 6: are more children with autism, and the professionals have greater
Speaker 6: reason to learn from what their experience and to diagnose.
Speaker 6: I wish the contrary was true, but uh, it's not
Speaker 6: like better awareness pushes something that's not there. Rather something
Speaker 6: that's there is being recognized.
Speaker 4: Secretary, can you please say your first and last name
Speaker 4: and outlet before asking a question.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 8: Sure, oh, Secretary Kennedy, a manisites with the Associated Press.
Speaker 8: Some of the CDC's own research has concluded that there's
Speaker 8: a genetic link at play with autism. Are you saying
Speaker 8: today that you don't trust that research or that it
Speaker 8: was wrong? Could you explain?
Speaker 5: No, there is You know, we have really good genetic
Speaker 5: markers now and they provide a vulnerability. Those genetic markers
Speaker 5: alone are not going to are not going to dictate
Speaker 5: your destiny. You need an environmental toxin. I mean, there
Speaker 5: are many genetic markers that dictate the metal methylation capacity
Speaker 5: of the human body. Those contribute to those dictate me.
Speaker 5: You know, listen with many people smoke cigarettes and only
Speaker 5: one in five died from lung cancer. There were four
Speaker 5: of them that didn't and those were the ones that
Speaker 5: had some circumstances, probably genetic, and made them more susceptible
Speaker 5: to it. And the same is true. We know that
Speaker 5: that gluetithion production and glu gluteith ion is is an
Speaker 5: enzyme that that helps the human body excrete metals and toxins.
Speaker 5: People with low glutithion production are more vulnerable. People with
Speaker 5: the mt HF orgy in which dictates of methylation are
Speaker 5: more vulnerable. People with high testosterone are more vulnerable. So
Speaker 5: there are a lot of genetic vulnerabilities. You need an
Speaker 5: environmental toxin.
Speaker 9: Alex at Fox, Alex Hi, Alex Hof Fox News. In
Speaker 9: seeking out an environmental toxin, do you feel that if
Speaker 9: one or several are detected or put on your radar,
Speaker 9: do you think it would be the same one causing
Speaker 9: issues at both ends of this spectrum children who struggle
Speaker 9: with let's say sensory issues all the way to those
Speaker 9: who are fully care dependent, unable to speak. Would it
Speaker 9: be the same catalyst in all of those varying conditions?
Speaker 5: You think, well, those are the kind of studies that
Speaker 5: we're going to do. And you're right, there is there's
Speaker 5: a spectrum of injuries and we don't know. There are
Speaker 5: studies that you know that, uh, look at maternal activation
Speaker 5: so that you know something happens in the womb. There
Speaker 5: are studies at and look at other genetic cause the
Speaker 5: issue that we know as genes don't cause epidemics. You
Speaker 5: need an environmental toxin, and we're gonna look at all
Speaker 5: the potential culprits. We're going to look at mold. We're
Speaker 5: going to look at food additives. We're gonna look at pesticides.
Speaker 5: We're going to look at air and water and medicines.
Speaker 5: So you know, we're gonna look We're gonna look at
Speaker 5: ultrasound because there's a timeline that you know, something happened.
Speaker 5: In fact, Congress said to EPA, ordered EPA to tell
Speaker 5: us what year the autism epidemic began. The EPA scientists
Speaker 5: came back and said, it happened in nineteen eighty nine. Oh,
Speaker 5: you you know, you have to find a toxin that
Speaker 5: became ubiquitous around that time period, and that affected every
Speaker 5: demographic from Cubans and keeps gay to Inuit in Alaska,
Speaker 5: and that affects boys at the four to one rate
Speaker 5: show as girls. There's only amitted universe of those, but
Speaker 5: actually it's quite large. And you know, erber Heertz Pachota
Speaker 5: was the one who suggested that one of the things
Speaker 5: we have to look at is ultras I don't think
Speaker 5: that that's probably a factor, but it's one of the
Speaker 5: exposures that became ubiquitous during that period, and we're going
Speaker 5: to look at all of them agnostically, We're going to
Speaker 5: find the potential exposures that increase during that time period,
Speaker 5: and then we're going to uh and we're gonna we're
Speaker 5: gonna see if there is a link to this, to
Speaker 5: this injury.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Nathan at Epic Times, I'm sorry, Please go, Nathan, Nathan.
Speaker 10: Uh, Yes, Nathan Worcester with Epic Times. During that same
Speaker 10: time period of increasing autism prevalence or diagnoses, there's also
Speaker 10: been a significant increase in maternal and paternal age. Couldn't
Speaker 10: that be a significant contributor with what maternal and paternal age.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna look at all of that. We're gonna
Speaker 5: look at obesity in the parents. We're gonna look at
Speaker 5: the age of the parents. We're gonna look at diabetes
Speaker 5: in the parents, and look at all these potential exposures.
Speaker 5: And because of AI and because of the digitalization of
Speaker 5: health records and the and the massive health records that
Speaker 5: are now available to us, we can do this much
Speaker 5: qui more quickly than it has ever been done in
Speaker 5: the past.
Speaker 4: Shyanne, this is our last question. Thank you.
Speaker 11: Do you still pledge to have answers by September or
Speaker 11: is that going to be the beginning of this process.
Speaker 11: And are you open to following the science, the science,
Speaker 11: regardless of whether it confirms some of your expectations or not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we're gonna we're gonna follow the science
Speaker 5: no matter what it says, and we are we will
Speaker 5: have some of the answers by September.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, it's going to be an evolving process. We're
Speaker 5: going to involve you know, we're going to issue grants
Speaker 5: the way that it's always done to university researchers and others.
Speaker 5: We're going to remove the taboo. People will know they
Speaker 5: can research and they can follow the science no matter
Speaker 5: what it says, without any kind of fear that they're
Speaker 5: going to be censored, that they're going to be gaslighted,
Speaker 5: that they're going to be silenced, they're going to be defunded,
Speaker 5: the licensed and we're going to give them permission to
Speaker 5: do this research. And then we're going to open it
Speaker 5: up to the research community and we're going to task
Speaker 5: them with certain outcomes and we're going to have them
Speaker 5: come in bid on how to do the research. This
Speaker 5: is all being run by Jay Patachara and by and
Speaker 5: you know, I think Martin Coldorf may be also working
Speaker 5: on this undesigning the grant proposals. So it's going to
Speaker 5: be done by credible scientists, by the most credible scientists
Speaker 5: from all over the world, and we're going to do
Speaker 5: it very very quickly. Yeah, one more question. You identify yourself.
Speaker 11: You identify which environmental toxins are positive autism.
Speaker 5: What do you expect the impact on the industries that
Speaker 5: are causing those you cited industry as well. We're I
Speaker 5: think we're gonna figure out a way to make pressure
Speaker 5: on them to remove it. And I think also you know,
Speaker 5: there will be market forces that that that that uh
Speaker 5: that also exert pressure on them to remove it. And oh,
Speaker 5: I wanted to say, I'm very grateful President Trump because
Speaker 5: he tas me on day one of this job with
Speaker 5: making this a priority of finding out what's causing the
Speaker 5: autism epidemic, and we are gonna do it for 'em.
Speaker 5: Thank you all very much.
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