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<v Speaker 1>Liberal advisory, truthful content, your children being ritualistic.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the operas of Reptilians and Tiptilian lizard people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you still talking about Jeffrey everything this guy's been

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the years?

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to John n your.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn you're going that was Joan all you're running with.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, you must have been down the rabbit hole as

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<v Speaker 4>long as I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on

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<v Speaker 2>everyste at a time like this.

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<v Speaker 4>Eventually you get you get to the juice box.

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<v Speaker 3>People is sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning

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<v Speaker 3>the file.

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<v Speaker 4>We juicer going to them moll book. That was a

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<v Speaker 4>joke about the world being flat, right, wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I got that timing down perfectly now.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome fellow truths and conspiracy junkies to another episode,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh White Rabbit. I am your host, Catalyst Jones. Coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of the heat of the summer, and it's defrosting

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<v Speaker 2>here in my studio this morning.

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<v Speaker 4>I left all the windows open.

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<v Speaker 2>It is nice and cool, and we are ready to

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<v Speaker 2>get this rock and we're gonna hit on some biblic

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<v Speaker 2>cool conspiracies today.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have just the people here to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen, Josh Monday from the Christian Conspiracy Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and Justin Doc Brown from the Prometheus Lens.

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<v Speaker 4>Is in the building. What is up? And good morning, gentlemen, Good.

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<v Speaker 3>Morning, good morning. I don't know who was gonna go first,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, good morning, brother. Thank you for having us.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I always respect Justin's in your work.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate you having me here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, do I call you doctor Justin while we're on

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<v Speaker 2>this live this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you want, man, whatever you want. I'm that rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>by many names.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd just refer to you as the cool dude with

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<v Speaker 2>the cool accent this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that? Oh yeah, I appreciate that. So California,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a single guy and apparently they're about in California

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<v Speaker 1>just loves this accent. So I'm not having any luck

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<v Speaker 1>down here in the South, so maybe i should just

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<v Speaker 1>move out west. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That reminds me.

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<v Speaker 2>That reminds me, and I don't remember the movie, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember watching this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It was two British guys and he was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to move to America because girls love my sexy

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<v Speaker 2>Australa or my sexy British accent, and he's like, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have a British accent.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, god do.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, man, I'm from California, even though I don't

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<v Speaker 2>live there any more. Josh from California, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>just have these boring California accents. So when we get

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<v Speaker 2>to hear people like you, it's like cool. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>before we started live this morning, it's so early, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hoping I don't fall back asleep because you have such

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<v Speaker 2>a soothing voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>But for those that aren't familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>With your guys's work, let's go ahead and go around

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<v Speaker 2>the horn here and we'll just go and Clockwhite. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how it's showing up on your guys, but Josh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're next to me on the screen here, so if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to just go ahead and kick this off, brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no problem. So my show was Josh Monday, Christen

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<v Speaker 3>and Conspiracy Podcast. And then I have two other shows

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<v Speaker 3>I got Wednesday Service Sunday Service that are on a

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<v Speaker 3>cult of the Conspiracy podcast. And on those two shows,

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday Service, I just do a full Bible study on

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<v Speaker 3>the old Testament, and then Wednesday service, I'm doing a

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<v Speaker 3>full Bible study on the New Testament. We're already the

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<v Speaker 3>Second Samuel eleven on the Old Testament, and then we're

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<v Speaker 3>all the way to Romans. We just finished the Book

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<v Speaker 3>of Romans in the New tes So. And then on

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<v Speaker 3>my show, I just do interviews and then I'm kind

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<v Speaker 3>of slowly releasing those Bible studies. So yeah, I've I've

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<v Speaker 3>always been trying to take a conspiracy show you how

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<v Speaker 3>it relates to the Bible. And I'm using the Bible

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<v Speaker 3>as debate to kind of get the conspiracy theoris to

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<v Speaker 3>find out the real truth. Nothing but the truth, the

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<v Speaker 3>Holy Bible and you know, Jesus Christ, the Way, the

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<v Speaker 3>truth of life, the Holy Spirit, and God the Father.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of my niche and I've been doing

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<v Speaker 3>it for four years now. Started out just doing Christian

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<v Speaker 3>rap music six years ago, and then I moved into

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<v Speaker 3>doing kind of Christian slash conspiracy rap. And honestly, when

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<v Speaker 3>people have a voice like Doc Browns, they could rhyme

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<v Speaker 3>words that are like way different than me and me

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm speaking to my accent, right, I remember I

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<v Speaker 3>have no accent. It's harder for me to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I really wish I did have that accent would

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<v Speaker 3>be easier for me to rap actually, and Catalyst knows

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a person in Australia that I was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>and she told me that I have a cute act,

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<v Speaker 2>so if that means anything, we do have accents to

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<v Speaker 2>people that don't talk like us, so that that's something

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<v Speaker 2>to think about right there.

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<v Speaker 3>But Josh, yeah, same thing when I'm in the When

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<v Speaker 3>you're in the army and you go and talk to

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<v Speaker 3>people from different areas, they love the fact that you

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<v Speaker 3>have a California accent, they would say, But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think it's accent.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah I don't either. I'm just like, that's how you talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Because bro, like I watch movies and stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody on movies will at least growing up basically

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<v Speaker 2>was from la unless they had an accent.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like that's just how people talk.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you go to school, that's how people

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<v Speaker 2>talk and it's it's weird. But yeah, Doc, we love

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<v Speaker 2>your accent. And Josh, I want to say, man, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a while since I've had you on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and since you teamed up with the Cult of Conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>and started doing your your Bible studies. I just want

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<v Speaker 2>you to know that not only a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>that listen in comment, but me in particular, has helped

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<v Speaker 2>me so much, bro, And this battle that I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>through with alcoholism is something that I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>would have been able to do without your Bible studies. Honestly, Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>There's been so many days where those have helped me

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<v Speaker 2>get through the day. And I just want to thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for doing that, and thank God that He is

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<v Speaker 2>using you to be able to give those to everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just an awesome thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you thank God, yeah, thank God, but all

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<v Speaker 3>glory to God, because it's not it's not me, He's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, He's working through me, just like he works

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<v Speaker 3>through justin just like He works through you or works

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<v Speaker 3>through everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>So and I'll have those links for everybody if they

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<v Speaker 2>want to go ahead and catch up or just start

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<v Speaker 2>where we are right now. On those Bible studies, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be able to fall along with us. And they're pretty awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>especially coming from somebody that's a conspiracy theorist, so you

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<v Speaker 2>get to see it through a different lens. Not just

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<v Speaker 2>some pastor, the pastor that's going to be flying the

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<v Speaker 2>Israel flag when you walk up to his church outside.

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<v Speaker 4>So Doc Man, Bigfoot is in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was one of the best episodes I've done

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<v Speaker 2>with some crazy craziness and people have been out skin

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<v Speaker 2>for more and here you are, brother Aman.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. But yeah, name is Justin. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got the nickname or pseudo name. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what you'd call that, a Lis Doc Brown. But my

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<v Speaker 1>show is the Prometheus Lens podcast. I've kind of deemed

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<v Speaker 1>it the hero's journey. You got to go into the unknown,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to slay the dragon, you have to face

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<v Speaker 1>your fears, save the damsel, gather up the treasure. But

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<v Speaker 1>then your journey is not over. You must return to

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<v Speaker 1>humanity and share that great gift that you received on

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<v Speaker 1>your journey with the world. And to me, that great

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<v Speaker 1>gift is Jesus Christ. And just like Josh, I go

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<v Speaker 1>through many fascinating topics that's got everybody's attention. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if you're a Christian or not. Everybody's into conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's into cryptids and lost civilizations and all those things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm one of those people that believe all that

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<v Speaker 1>is in the Bible, the Bible has an answer for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I try to have conversations that not only

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<v Speaker 1>Christians will enjoy, but non believers and kind of sprinkle

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the Holy Spirit and truth why

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<v Speaker 1>I got their attention. And yeah, just like you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Bigfoot in the Bible. That's my first book I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this year called The Epica of Esau. And yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a wild ride. I've been doing this for

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be two years in October. So the Lord has

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<v Speaker 1>blessed it. Just like Josh said, It's amazing what he

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<v Speaker 1>will do when you step out and say yes and

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<v Speaker 1>just follow. Man. Because this guy right here, this accident

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<v Speaker 1>the banjos play when I talk, barely graduated twelfth grade

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<v Speaker 1>and that was twenty years ago. So for me to

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<v Speaker 1>the power of God.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't disagree with that at all, man, And that

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the things that I pray about daily,

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<v Speaker 2>is to allow me to remove whatever is blocking me

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<v Speaker 2>from not only having that personal relationship that I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be having, but also to let go of my

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<v Speaker 2>driving the path he wants me to drive in, not

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<v Speaker 2>my own personal path that I think is best for me,

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<v Speaker 2>because that hasn't really gotten me anywhere other than hard times.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's difficult that as it is to let go

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<v Speaker 2>of the wheel man it through prayer, it's become a

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<v Speaker 2>lot easier. But I will say this, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things I wanted to get into with you guys is

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<v Speaker 2>this because times are crazy. You know, we have the

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk shooting. Whether you believe that was staged, fake,

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<v Speaker 2>real person died not, it doesn't matter. The reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>this is very real. The way that it affects people

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<v Speaker 2>is very real. We have a lot of myself, included

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<v Speaker 2>is shining a giant spotlight on a certain country right

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<v Speaker 2>now and the corrupt leaders in that country and what

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<v Speaker 2>they're pulling in this world. But every generation seems to

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<v Speaker 2>say that we're living in the end times, and every

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<v Speaker 4>So, you know, if you were growing up during World

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<v Speaker 2>War II type of era, like you have every reason

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that the end of the world is here.

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<v Speaker 2>Right amongst us right now? What makes us any different

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<v Speaker 2>in the time that we're leaving in right now? And Josh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you pick that up first.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, just like you said, World War two, can you

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<v Speaker 3>imagine Hitler was trying to take over the world, And

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<v Speaker 3>different opinions on that as well. But you can imagine

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<v Speaker 3>of the beast and pretty pretty easy. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 3>it really depends on who's right in eschatology because there's

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<v Speaker 3>eschatology thing, so as Justin probably knows because he's been

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<v Speaker 3>going through the Bible for a long time. On as

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<v Speaker 3>old show, I can't remember what it was called, but

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<v Speaker 3>listen to that sill here, Like, I've already had three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred episodes on my show, so I've had so many

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<v Speaker 3>different people come on tell me different eschatologies. So at

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<v Speaker 3>and verse for every single thing that they're saying. That way,

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<v Speaker 3>got from some different Bible and say, hey, this is

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what's going to happen any chapter and verse. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think it definitely is pointing towards the birth Baan's

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<v Speaker 3>getting stronger and the end times being here, or them

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<v Speaker 3>making the end times and make us seem like we

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, justin that's a huge debate that people

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<v Speaker 2>the end times because they're forcing it. But in the Bible,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't say whether or not it's forced. It just

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<v Speaker 2>those times, and whether they're fabricating those two take place

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<v Speaker 2>or not, they're still taking place, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And just like Josh was saying, each you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, you can make a good case for people

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<v Speaker 1>a f You guys are familiar with Jamie Walden, he's

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<v Speaker 1>that the Lord basically told him with all these floods.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was in America. We were concentrated on Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was like Chicago and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>there was mass flooding around the world during this time.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said that he felt like the Lord was

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<v Speaker 1>telling him that this is the the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>birth banks. The water has broke, and once the water breaks,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no turning back. And he said that in Revelation,

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<v Speaker 1>it talks about the earthquakes, the famines, the rumors of wars,

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<v Speaker 1>the volcanoes, and just all this other kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on. We see all those right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean not just you know a week later here that

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<v Speaker 1>all the catastrophic flooding. When you go to I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember the website that you can Google search it, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's this place that tracks all the earthquakes. There's more

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<v Speaker 1>ever in recorded history. There's more active volcanoes ever than

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<v Speaker 1>recorded history. I think back when we talked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>back then there was over eighty something volcanoes. So you

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<v Speaker 1>just like Josh said, there's more there's no better time

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<v Speaker 1>than that for the infrastructure. You're starting to get this

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<v Speaker 1>AI that the surveillance state, and the blockchain system. For

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that? Do you get go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>Josh?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Just like I was just to bounce off what

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<v Speaker 3>Justin was saying, is the infrastructure is here, like if

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<v Speaker 3>you see the Europe just just kind of did it

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<v Speaker 3>the Parliament. I think it's in Great Britain. The Parliament

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<v Speaker 3>digital ID. But don't worry. You know we're gonna give

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<v Speaker 3>in the beginning. You know it's going to be absolutely free.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't worry, but you have to have a digital ID

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to work. That's like, that's those kind

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<v Speaker 3>of talk. That kind of talk just reminds you of

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<v Speaker 3>what the Bible says. Now, I'm not saying that the

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<v Speaker 3>digital idea is going to be the mark of the Beast,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm letting you know that they're they're basically doing

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<v Speaker 3>precursors to the mark of the beast. Uh Via, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what's what we're gonna be on right here,

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<v Speaker 3>but Via, you know, the thing in the arm and

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<v Speaker 3>what's gonna happen in Revelation and that they're they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>look like it's getting closer, you know, if like like

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<v Speaker 3>just like Justin was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>As well, Yeah, yeah, I think it's definitely getting closer.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, my grandma was very uh Christian based,

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<v Speaker 4>Out of me.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I'm almost welcoming it because as long as

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<v Speaker 2>you're right and where you need to be, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like, good, let's get this over with, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much better things that we could we could be

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<v Speaker 2>just constant sin thrown down our throats, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where we're sinning now and not even

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<v Speaker 2>realizing it or feeling guilty about it. And it's just

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<v Speaker 4>It's just, uh, yeah, I don't I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember where I was going with that, But

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<v Speaker 2>do you guys, do you guys think that the COVID

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<v Speaker 2>was the initial Like, let's see if we can actually

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<v Speaker 2>roll this out, because when you were talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>vaccine passport or not the vaccine passport, but the digital

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<v Speaker 2>idea basically is the vaccine passport. That's they're just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to repackage it and rebrand it in certain ways. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not necessarily going into our body or skin or

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<v Speaker 2>anything yet. But I mean, we have elon musk that's

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<v Speaker 2>already put these implants and people brains, and in the

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy world, you know, there's people talking about like this

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<v Speaker 2>is an easy just flip of the switch to basically

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm poking the bear too, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like for us married men or used to

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<v Speaker 1>in a while, we test to see how far we

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<v Speaker 1>I'm playing. But that she goes with it, of course

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be like, yeah, I'm going to stay home.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's kind of what our government does.

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<v Speaker 1>They poke the bear, they test the waters, They push

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of like the frog in the boiling water.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't cut it up to level ten because then

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<v Speaker 1>the frog's going to jump out. But if you slowly

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so subtle. And it's that's what the government does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's causing effect, like the whole nine to eleven stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what happened. They got the people so scared

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<v Speaker 1>of the government reading their emails, tappening into their phones,

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<v Speaker 1>just for the chance of catching the bad guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>this not happening again. In Benjamin Franklin, he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it all those years ago. He said, because apparently this

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And that's a high Galien dialectic, like Justin was saying,

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<v Speaker 3>that that that weren't vaxed and all the people they

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<v Speaker 3>kind of he's trying to, you know, kind of gather

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<v Speaker 3>And it's happening. And I think that Charlie kirk thing

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<v Speaker 3>did get killed, you know. But there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people that would say, no way, every every single thing

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<v Speaker 3>And it's definitely possible for him to be alive, especially

423
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<v Speaker 3>the reactions of his wife. It reminds me of Sandy

424
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<v Speaker 3>Hook when those those parents were talking on the on TV,

425
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<v Speaker 3>where it just seems like I'm not seeing anything in

426
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<v Speaker 3>their voice. But I'm not a professional voice analyst or

427
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<v Speaker 3>by any means, so I couldn't say. But I think

428
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<v Speaker 3>that we're seeing that they're trying to get the rest

429
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<v Speaker 3>of the people that weren't down with COVID and all

430
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<v Speaker 3>that stuff. Still like and I don't think everything. I

431
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<v Speaker 3>don't think they got as many people as they wanted to.

432
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<v Speaker 3>They want to get the people that are pro gune

433
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<v Speaker 3>Christian on board, and I think that for them to

434
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<v Speaker 3>do that, they use Donald Trump as a honeypot. But

435
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<v Speaker 3>I'm noticing that people are waking up. Anthony is one

436
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<v Speaker 3>of them. Anthony Gaff is one of them that I've

437
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<v Speaker 3>been watching that GRAFFEO. Sorry Anthon iom As gaff But

438
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<v Speaker 3>Anthony is a guy that I know, I'm really cool

439
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<v Speaker 3>with I've had him on the show. He's been I've

440
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<v Speaker 3>been on my show, and I've just been watching him

441
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<v Speaker 3>specifically because he was he was so pro Trump, and

442
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<v Speaker 3>he was he was so pro c and after he

443
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<v Speaker 3>started under Donald Trump doing certain things and then finally

444
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<v Speaker 3>he kind of he took a step back. And I'm

445
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<v Speaker 3>seeing a lot of people do that where they were

446
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<v Speaker 3>really involved in the Q movement, and he's a brother

447
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<v Speaker 3>in Christ. That's why I'm kind of I kind of

448
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<v Speaker 3>watch him to see the temperature of what's going on

449
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<v Speaker 3>with what those people like like that, you know, and

450
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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, he will, I'm all right.

451
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<v Speaker 2>It was a beautiful thing because him and I were big, big,

452
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<v Speaker 2>in the Q movement and that's what really got White

453
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<v Speaker 2>Rabbit its feet. And when I first started out, you know,

454
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<v Speaker 2>I was working with We the People Radio, and through

455
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<v Speaker 2>that I got ties to a lot of people, and

456
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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Griffeo was one of them. Graf was always like

457
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<v Speaker 2>one of the people that everyone in the Q movement

458
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<v Speaker 2>were looking to because he just had that voice and

459
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<v Speaker 2>the way to look at things differently and decipher and

460
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<v Speaker 2>he held on to the queue for a lot longer

461
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<v Speaker 2>than I did, and I was seeing these things, and

462
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<v Speaker 2>I would send him stuff all the time and I'd

463
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<v Speaker 2>be like, bro, like it ain't gonna play out the

464
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<v Speaker 2>way that we've been saying, you know, like it's time

465
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<v Speaker 2>to jump off of that train. And he finally came around,

466
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<v Speaker 2>because there's just things that are happening that you can't

467
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<v Speaker 2>overlook anymore. And I think that when Trump came out

468
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<v Speaker 2>and said, what Epstein list, it's a hoax, I think

469
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<v Speaker 2>that that was a huge slapping the face to a

470
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<v Speaker 2>lot of people that not only had his back, but

471
00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:09.920
<v Speaker 2>lost family, friends, jobs, got kicked out of their social

472
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<v Speaker 2>circles for sticking up for this guy. And for him

473
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<v Speaker 2>to just do what he did is it's gaslighting to

474
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<v Speaker 2>the fullest. It's demoralizing, and he's losing a lot of

475
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<v Speaker 2>his base because of just simply that statement, Like, are

476
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<v Speaker 2>you guys still talking about Epstein?

477
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<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, we are.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Are you still talking about the rigid election that you

479
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<v Speaker 2>did nothing about?

480
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we shouldn't be surprised. I mean, you can't

481
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<v Speaker 1>idolize a person. You can't put your faith in a

482
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<v Speaker 1>person because they're going to let you down every time,

483
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<v Speaker 1>even if they are a genuinely good person. That's why

484
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<v Speaker 1>he put you faith in God. But I will say this,

485
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<v Speaker 1>I like to play Devil's advocate. I'm not taking up

486
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<v Speaker 1>for any political person, but I'm just trying to give

487
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<v Speaker 1>you the people, like a perspective of theirs. It takes

488
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<v Speaker 1>a special type of person to be a leader, and

489
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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you have to you know, I hate to say this,

490
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<v Speaker 1>but this is how they see it. Sacrifice a few

491
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<v Speaker 1>pawns to say the king and something like Epstein. You

492
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<v Speaker 1>got to imagine that this would have devastational ramifications worldwide

493
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<v Speaker 1>through every government. Just say that this is a spider

494
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<v Speaker 1>web that goes throughout the entire world. So just like

495
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<v Speaker 1>there's certain things that happen, like if we got an

496
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<v Speaker 1>asteroid coming to Earth about to hit us, like that

497
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<v Speaker 1>Armagadon movie, what do they do. They keep it from

498
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<v Speaker 1>the people because they don't want the people to freak

499
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<v Speaker 1>out and make their job harder. So they're like, oh,

500
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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, it's fine, but they know it's coming. So

501
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<v Speaker 1>they do that to try to stabilize the earth and

502
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<v Speaker 1>the people. And I think that this whole Epstein thing,

503
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<v Speaker 1>it's like that web is so diverse it would just

504
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<v Speaker 1>shut down governments. I mean, there wouldn't be anybody in

505
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<v Speaker 1>power left and it would just throw the world into chaos.

506
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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like a uh, in their mind,

507
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<v Speaker 1>a list or evil will sacrifice this pond and kick

508
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<v Speaker 1>it down the road for the stabilization of the globe.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Or the flat plane. But a so, I again, I

510
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<v Speaker 3>agree with that. And Justin, I was in I was

511
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<v Speaker 3>in the I was in the military. Yeah yeah, realm no, yeah, yeah, no,

512
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<v Speaker 3>I'm just kidding, so uh yeah. But the whole thing,

513
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<v Speaker 3>the reason why I think it affected them so much

514
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<v Speaker 3>is because the whole, the whole, the whole basis of

515
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<v Speaker 3>Q was about saving the children and saving people from that.

516
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<v Speaker 3>That he was going to come and save people from that.

517
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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's probably what you priority know, Justin,

518
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<v Speaker 3>But I think that's probably why it affected probably Catalysts

519
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<v Speaker 3>and and and Anthony so much. But a shout out

520
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<v Speaker 3>to Anthony Gaffer. We're talking about you, but in a

521
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<v Speaker 3>positive light. I just want to shout out to you,

522
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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, let you know that. So that's a case

523
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<v Speaker 3>of what he says he was talking about you.

524
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<v Speaker 2>He he just teamed up with hang on, yeah, my calendar.

525
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<v Speaker 2>He taught he just teamed up with Fuzz Young and

526
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<v Speaker 2>they started a new podcast like two weeks ago.

527
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<v Speaker 4>Both of those guys.

528
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<v Speaker 2>Are gonna be on the show here pretty soon. I

529
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<v Speaker 2>can't see the date on my calendar, but they're on there.

530
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

531
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<v Speaker 2>Uh. It is people like him that are waking up

532
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<v Speaker 2>that is gonna change because the amount of followers that

533
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<v Speaker 2>he has and the people that were relying on him

534
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<v Speaker 2>basically to decipher these things.

535
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<v Speaker 4>It's like I was telling people, you know, a.

536
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<v Speaker 2>Lot of people are awake, but there's a lot of

537
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<v Speaker 2>people that claim to be awake that are really just

538
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<v Speaker 2>I hate using the word NPC, but they are just

539
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<v Speaker 2>in PCs and going along with what people that figured

540
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<v Speaker 2>stuff out are telling them. It's like they're still relying

541
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<v Speaker 2>on basically, the people that rely on TV. They're still

542
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<v Speaker 2>doing the same thing. They just found a different TV

543
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<v Speaker 2>to rely on, and they're relying on people like graph

544
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<v Speaker 2>or myself or these bigger named podcasts like Prometheus Lens

545
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:07.160
<v Speaker 2>and Josh Monday Christian Conspiracy because they're not capable of

546
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>deciphering these things for themselves or they don't have time to,

547
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.400
<v Speaker 2>so they rely on people like us to do it.

548
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 4>And if these people don't wake up.

549
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Like if Graf was to still be like trust the plan,

550
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.640
<v Speaker 2>the white hats are in control, that would be a

551
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.440
<v Speaker 2>problem because then we would have all these people still

552
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<v Speaker 2>going along. But thank god, we do have people smart

553
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<v Speaker 2>enough to have people looking up to them. And every

554
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>man is fallible, right, so it is okay for us

555
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.839
<v Speaker 2>to hang on to some of these things, even if

556
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.319
<v Speaker 2>that's what we built our base on, right, Like white

557
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>rabbit used to be spelled with a one and a

558
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<v Speaker 2>seven in it for the seventeenth letter, which is cute.

559
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<v Speaker 2>And I had to tell my base I fucked up, guys,

560
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I was wrong, And it's a humbling thing to do.

561
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<v Speaker 2>Deep It's not an easy thing to do, especially when

562
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<v Speaker 2>you're like, everybody's gonna stop listening to me. I'm gonna

563
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 2>lose my entire But you know, the truth prevails. I

564
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 2>did lose a lot of people. I lost them a

565
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of MAGA people when I first did that. I'm

566
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:09.160
<v Speaker 2>sure I gained a lot of them back up after

567
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>the couple of years have passed since I jumped off

568
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>of the Q train. But a lot of people right

569
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 2>now are talking about this whole rapture thing that came

570
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:23.240
<v Speaker 2>in and left and that has brought a bunch of questions,

571
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.759
<v Speaker 2>and so I started looking into it and I wanted

572
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<v Speaker 2>to kind of swing and pivot into this what is

573
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<v Speaker 2>the rapture? And is this a legitimate thing? You have

574
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<v Speaker 2>Christians arguing about this as well, and Doc will start

575
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<v Speaker 2>with you on this one man, what is your take

576
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<v Speaker 2>on the rapture?

577
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<v Speaker 4>Is this a thing? Is it even in the Bible?

578
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I grew up Southern Baptist and was you know,

579
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<v Speaker 1>indoctrinated with the pre trib rapture idea and believe that

580
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<v Speaker 1>all the way till probably my mid twenties, mid to

581
00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 1>late twenties. And then once I actually started looking into

582
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it myself and reading it for myself, I personally come

583
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<v Speaker 1>to the conclusion that there is no rapture. How the

584
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>people talk about it anyway. Now that that Greek word

585
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 1>that you know is transcribed and they think is rapture,

586
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>is that what is harpoo? Harpoosa rpazzo. Yeah, it is

587
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 1>in there. But when you read the scriptures as a whole,

588
00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, anybody can take one verse, and you know,

589
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 1>if they're good wordsmith, they can turn it to be

590
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.039
<v Speaker 1>whatever they want it to be. But if you look

591
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>at the scripture as a whole and read it, I

592
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<v Speaker 1>think there's lots of evidence that shows that we will

593
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<v Speaker 1>endure tribulation. You know, it says time and time again.

594
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<v Speaker 1>You know, you will endure tribulation. Those who endure till

595
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 1>the end, not the middle, not the beginning. Those who

596
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>endure to the end will get a crown of life.

597
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>And even Jesus tells them, you know, pray when this

598
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.559
<v Speaker 1>time comes that it's not in the winter, and that

599
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 1>the pregnant women have to go into the mountains in

600
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<v Speaker 1>the cold of winter, you know. And then revelation happens,

601
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 1>what things will comes down and put some mark on

602
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 1>God's people for protection. Well, if we're not here, why

603
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.799
<v Speaker 1>do we need a mark for protection? You know. There's

604
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of things. And I actually I did a

605
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>show on this on the Dig many years ago, and

606
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I got my notes here. So if we do want

607
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to go dive deep in with some scripture, and I

608
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 1>got verses and all that kind of stuff pulled up

609
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<v Speaker 1>with me in a nutshell, I think that we have

610
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<v Speaker 1>to endure the tribulation because even if you look at

611
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<v Speaker 1>God's past judgments, he never removes his people but he

612
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<v Speaker 1>protects and provides for them. Look at the plagues in Egypt.

613
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<v Speaker 1>He didn't pull them out of Egypt. They were right

614
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<v Speaker 1>there for it all. But they were protected and provided

615
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 1>for Noah's flood. His people were provided and protected. But

616
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:50.759
<v Speaker 1>of course I'm sure it wasn't great in that arc.

617
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they were getting seasick and they had to

618
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<v Speaker 1>endure this storm, but they were preserved. And it says

619
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 1>the evil were swept away and the righteous remained. So

620
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>time and time again. Soldom Gomora, all of them. He

621
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>never removes his people, but he protects him and provides

622
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:13.319
<v Speaker 1>for them. So I kind of jokingly tell people half heartedly, no,

623
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to be the one left behind, because Heaven

624
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and Earth comes down here, and you want to be

625
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 1>here for it and not be swept away like the

626
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>wicked in the flood. Yeah.

627
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<v Speaker 4>Man, that brings up a question though, because.

628
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<v Speaker 2>In my upbringing I was always told that there's only

629
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<v Speaker 2>a room for like one hundred thousand people in heaven

630
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<v Speaker 2>and then the rest of God's chosen people are going

631
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<v Speaker 2>to live out eternity in paradise on earth, and that

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<v Speaker 2>comes from Jehovah's witness upbringing.

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<v Speaker 3>And they wanted to. They want those hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 3>to only be Jehovah's witness. That's that's that's why, you know,

635
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<v Speaker 3>like they that that's what the whole thing is about.

636
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<v Speaker 3>But it's it's fifteen hundred by fifteen hundred by fifteen

637
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<v Speaker 3>hundred square miles, you know, So it'll it'll be and

638
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<v Speaker 3>and it's going to be a new Heaven, new Earth,

639
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<v Speaker 3>you know. And I think the whole reason why I've

640
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<v Speaker 3>talked to you about it before Catalyst. You know, Heaven

641
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.079
<v Speaker 3>and Earth are connected, you know, and that's what's you

642
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 3>always see something happy on Earth that affects Heaven. There's

643
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<v Speaker 3>an earthquake in Joel that's so that's so strong that

644
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<v Speaker 3>it affects Heaven, you know. So and what happens is

645
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<v Speaker 3>there'll be a new Heaven Earth. But as far as

646
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<v Speaker 3>the rapture, like that word is harpaso, you know, and

647
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<v Speaker 3>it's and it's the word it's it's basically caught up,

648
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<v Speaker 3>you know. And I've talked about it on your show,

649
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<v Speaker 3>Tewod Corinthians twelve versus h. I think it's like one

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<v Speaker 3>through four when when Paul was caught up to the

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<v Speaker 3>to the third heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an example of what a rapture would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's seven people on the Bible that were raptured,

656
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<v Speaker 3>and they would be like Enoch, you know which in

657
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<v Speaker 3>the beginning in Genesis five twenty four Hebrews eleven five,

658
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<v Speaker 3>Elijah is caught up right. That's second Kings two to one,

659
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<v Speaker 3>uh and verse eleven, and then Jesus in Mark sixteen nineteen,

660
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<v Speaker 3>Acts one nine through eleven, and then Revelation twelve five.

661
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<v Speaker 3>Then we have Philip and Acts eight thirty nine. Then

662
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<v Speaker 3>we have Paul and two Corinthians twelve, verses two through four,

663
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<v Speaker 3>which I just mentioned to you, the body of Christ

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<v Speaker 3>and one Thessalonians four seventeen, whether that's pre trip, mid

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<v Speaker 3>trib or post trib And then we have John in

666
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<v Speaker 3>Revelation four to one, where he's able to see into heaven.

667
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

668
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<v Speaker 3>So if you look in Revelation four, it's all about

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<v Speaker 3>him able to see in heaven, you know, the sapphires

670
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<v Speaker 3>sowing all the different things right. And then Ezekiel just

671
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<v Speaker 3>had a vision. So if you see him in Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 3>one twenty six, that's not him getting actually caught up

673
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<v Speaker 3>to heaven. It's actually just a vision from God right

674
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<v Speaker 3>of the firmament and stuff like that. So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>there's just really the it's in the Bible, just like

676
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<v Speaker 3>Justin was saying, but the way that they're trying to

677
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<v Speaker 3>portray it, you can't really place a time whether it's

678
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<v Speaker 3>going to be pre trib mid trib or post trib

679
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<v Speaker 3>That was kind of created because they had this seven

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<v Speaker 3>year tribulation that they came up with and then they

681
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<v Speaker 3>had three and a half years of peace and then

682
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<v Speaker 3>three and a half years of the Great Tribulation. But

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<v Speaker 3>really the Bible, and when you break it down, really

684
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<v Speaker 3>is speaking about a three and a half year tribulation.

685
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<v Speaker 3>The seven year tribulation is created from Daniel nine twenty seven,

686
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<v Speaker 3>and that is people thinking that Daniel nine twenty six

687
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<v Speaker 3>is a not a future event, but Daniel nine twenty

688
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<v Speaker 3>seven is. So there's like a two thousand year church age,

689
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<v Speaker 3>so they're still waiting for that three and a half

690
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.599
<v Speaker 3>years and that. Like I said, it all really depends

691
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<v Speaker 3>on your eschatology. But there's verses like first, sorry, sorry,

692
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<v Speaker 3>does you want to talk?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I do have a question where where did the whole

695
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<v Speaker 2>misconception come from? That there's just going to be a

696
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<v Speaker 2>massive amount of people that get taken up one day.

697
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<v Speaker 4>Out of nowhere.

698
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<v Speaker 2>You know, just cars are going to be empty and

699
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.639
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be serving somebody their coffee and then

700
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.599
<v Speaker 2>they're not there and type of thing, and like thousands

701
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 2>of people all over the world.

702
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<v Speaker 4>Where did this come from?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, teenage girl in the nineteenth century, because if you look,

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<v Speaker 1>I had this in the notes it says this didn't

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<v Speaker 1>exist before the nineteenth century. Around eighteen twenty was its conception.

706
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<v Speaker 1>It began during a revival in Scotland a teenage girl

707
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<v Speaker 1>named McDonald who claimed to have a vision of a

708
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.599
<v Speaker 1>pre tribulation rapture. A reverend named Darby was there who

709
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<v Speaker 1>really latched on to this idea. This man was one

710
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<v Speaker 1>of the founders of the Plymouth Brethren Dominion and began

711
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<v Speaker 1>to preach this theology. Darby took this teaching with him

712
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<v Speaker 1>to the United States. In the founding of the New World,

713
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<v Speaker 1>he came in contact with Billy Graham. With the Billy

714
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Graham of his day, Dwight L. Moody, founder of the

715
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<v Speaker 1>Moody Bible Institute and the Moody Press. Moody became the

716
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<v Speaker 1>worldwide distributor of this theology. Many novels were written holding

717
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<v Speaker 1>to this idea called Jesus is Coming. Then we have

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<v Speaker 1>to we have the Schofield Reference Bible. This was the

719
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<v Speaker 1>first of its kind to have headings in the biblical text.

720
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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Predicts the Rapture was a famous heading in Matthew

721
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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. They planted their beliefs into the Bible. So

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<v Speaker 1>this all started with a vision from a teenage girl

723
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<v Speaker 1>in Scotland. This is something that we have repeated until

724
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<v Speaker 1>it was believed, and scripture is twisted to fit people's

725
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<v Speaker 1>preconceived notions.

726
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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's heard of the Scholfield Bible. If anybody is like

727
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<v Speaker 3>a conspiracy theorist, they've heard of the Scholfield Bible. And

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<v Speaker 3>what he's describing is definitely on point and biblically. What

729
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<v Speaker 3>they would say is first Thessalonians four verses thirteen through eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>It says, but I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren,

731
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<v Speaker 3>but let me just give you context. The Thessalonians were sad,

732
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<v Speaker 3>thinking that their family members are going to die and

733
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<v Speaker 3>they were going to miss out on something. So Paul

734
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.480
<v Speaker 3>says this to them. You know, so he says, but

735
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<v Speaker 3>this is first Tessonians four, verse thirteen three eighteen. But

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<v Speaker 3>I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren concerning

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<v Speaker 3>those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others

738
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<v Speaker 3>have no hope. So that's why he's telling them that. Right,

739
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.679
<v Speaker 3>for we believe that Jesus died and rose again. Even

740
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<v Speaker 3>so God will bring him those who sleep in Jesus,

741
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:11.280
<v Speaker 3>which he's talking about the second Resurrection. For this we

742
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<v Speaker 3>say that you, by the word of the Lord, that

743
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>we are alive and remain until coming to the Lord

744
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 3>will be by no means precede those who are asleep,

745
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 3>for the Lord himself will descend from heaven what they

746
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.800
<v Speaker 3>shout with the voice of an archangel and the trumpet

747
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.079
<v Speaker 3>of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

748
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<v Speaker 3>Then we are all. We are alive and remain, shall

749
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 3>be caught up. That's our apostle, together with them in

750
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.320
<v Speaker 3>the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And

751
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 3>thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore, comfort

752
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 3>one another with these words. That's why he's telling him that.

753
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<v Speaker 3>But what happens is some people took that verse, that

754
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 3>particular verse, and they said, well, they placed it in

755
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 3>a pre trib scenario right basically, because they created the

756
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 3>seven year tribulation which Doc was talking about, that's going

757
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<v Speaker 3>to be Scholfield creating a seven year tribleation where there's

758
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<v Speaker 3>basically the anti christ is having a peace treaty with Israel,

759
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<v Speaker 3>there'll be a third Temple built. This is all Scholfield

760
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 3>type of talk. And then the Third Temple will be built,

761
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<v Speaker 3>then there'll be three and a half years of peace

762
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<v Speaker 3>that the Antichrist will have, which is right out of

763
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<v Speaker 3>Daniel nine twenty seven where he says he's going to

764
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<v Speaker 3>stop the sacrifices. But if depending on your eschatology, there's

765
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 3>people that believe obviously that that that's Jesus they're talking

766
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 3>about that stopped the sacrifices when he died on the cross.

767
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.199
<v Speaker 3>Now Schulfuld would say, no, this is going to be

768
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<v Speaker 3>a future thing with the Antichrist where he's going to

769
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<v Speaker 3>make a treaty with Israel and there'll be three and

770
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<v Speaker 3>a half years of peace, and then he'll go into

771
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<v Speaker 3>the Third Temple and he's going to claim himself to

772
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 3>be God, and then a third of the Jews will

773
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 3>die and there's going to be a great tribulation and

774
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff is going to start. But that's one

775
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<v Speaker 3>of the main verses. And then another verse, which I'm

776
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<v Speaker 3>sure Doc has all these verses too, is one Corinthians fifteen,

777
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<v Speaker 3>verses fifty through fifty three. Right, it's another rapture proof text.

778
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<v Speaker 3>It says, now this, I say, brother, and that the

779
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<v Speaker 3>flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor

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<v Speaker 3>does corruption inherit in chore option. Behold, I tell you

781
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:05.000
<v Speaker 3>a mystery, meaning something that was hidden. Right, we shall

782
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.599
<v Speaker 3>not all sleep, but we shall all be changed in

783
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<v Speaker 3>a moment, in the twinkling of an eye at the

784
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.880
<v Speaker 3>last trumpet, right, So for the trumpet, that's the key, Yes,

785
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 3>the last trumpet, for the trumpet will sound, and the

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<v Speaker 3>dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed.

787
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:26.440
<v Speaker 3>For this incorruptible must be in corruption, for this mortal

788
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 3>must be immortality. So go ahead to justin. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>you can go off of that real quick, well, and

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<v Speaker 3>then then I'll come and speak as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Oh yeah, justin in one second before you

792
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<v Speaker 2>before you start, Josh, will you please check your cables

793
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<v Speaker 2>real quick, because you're getting static, as if.

794
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<v Speaker 4>One of your cables might not be fully plugged in

795
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<v Speaker 4>or something.

796
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I checked it. It should be good. I'll just

797
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<v Speaker 3>not get too close to it. Is it okay? Usually

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have an issue with the with the mic.

799
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<v Speaker 3>The mic is usually good, and it's and it's reading good.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it okay? Now?

801
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<v Speaker 2>Right now? It is and it's not constant. It's just

802
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe touching something. But well, yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>deal with it. I just wanted to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you're good.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, no problem. So I think justin you were going

806
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<v Speaker 3>to go, and then I'll go from Yang still.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the only thing I was going to say was

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<v Speaker 1>that's the key to that whole passage. It says at

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<v Speaker 1>the last trumpet, So if we go through revelation, this

810
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<v Speaker 1>is at the very end, and God's people has done

811
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<v Speaker 1>went through the tribulation. So some people that go with

812
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<v Speaker 1>these different kind of raptures, I've heard some people jokingly

813
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 1>call it the Yogo theology that Jesus comes down, he goes,

814
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<v Speaker 1>he pulls us back up in the rapture, but then

815
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<v Speaker 1>he comes back down for judgment, you know, So it's

816
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<v Speaker 1>like a yogo he comes up and down, but now

817
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<v Speaker 1>he comes down once and that's all he needs. Because

818
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<v Speaker 1>he's God. He comes down and ends it. But it

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<v Speaker 1>says those who endure to the last trumpet, And then

820
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<v Speaker 1>another verse I mentioned earlier, those who endure to the end,

821
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<v Speaker 1>we'll get a crown of life because when it comes,

822
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<v Speaker 1>it says that last trumpet was to say the first

823
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<v Speaker 1>the dead in him shall rise first. So their bodies

824
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>are raised and they're made into an incorruptible body. But

825
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<v Speaker 1>then at the same time, Heaven is coming down to Earth,

826
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<v Speaker 1>a new Heaven, new Earth, and it says, then we

827
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>are changed at the twinkling of an eye. So what

828
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<v Speaker 1>it's saying I believe is that the dead are given

829
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<v Speaker 1>their incorruptible body, Heaven's coming down to Earth, and us

830
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that are left alive and made it through the tribulation,

831
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<v Speaker 1>we are changed. We are immediately given our incorruptible bodies.

832
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not that we're called up to Heaven to come

833
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.079
<v Speaker 1>back down later. You know, it's all happening simultaneously.

834
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<v Speaker 3>I would say, good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was just thinking about my uncle who's who's

836
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<v Speaker 2>in a wheelchair, and how awesome it would be if

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<v Speaker 2>he was able to get that body. But so what

838
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I hope is that we get to witness all the

839
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:04.199
<v Speaker 2>craziness that's happening. So when that final trumpet blows, is

840
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>that Jesus coming down and then we don't get to

841
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 2>see him like completely win the war.

842
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Now the well, okay, so there's gonna be a few

843
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:18.159
<v Speaker 3>things happening I think before the New Heaven and New Earth.

844
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 3>So the New Heaven Earth is gonna be in Revelation

845
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:23.239
<v Speaker 3>twenty two. So there's gonna be a thousand year reign,

846
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.400
<v Speaker 3>millennial reign of Jesus right here on Earth. And then

847
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 3>after that would be Satan's little season that everybody talks

848
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.360
<v Speaker 3>about that's really popular right now, and then there'll be

849
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 3>a new Heaven and Earth. What happened is there'll be

850
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 3>a Satan will gather his people and he will basically

851
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:39.679
<v Speaker 3>deceive the nations again. He's gonna gather an army and

852
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna try to go against Jesus in Jerusalem. And yeah,

853
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.880
<v Speaker 3>so there's things that are gonna happen before that, I believe.

854
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:49.800
<v Speaker 3>I think the last trumpets in Revelation eleven and then

855
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think that, but I think Doc is

856
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.880
<v Speaker 3>on the right track. I think that the first I

857
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.840
<v Speaker 3>think the second resurrection will happen, and then Jesus is

858
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 3>gonna come down to the earth and I ain't for

859
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 3>a thousand years, and I think that you'll have an

860
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:05.440
<v Speaker 3>incorruptible body. Then I think at doc is saying that

861
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.039
<v Speaker 3>it'll happen. It just depends on your eschatology, right, But

862
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 3>what I was gonna say is there was a first

863
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:14.760
<v Speaker 3>resurrection that a lot of people they don't really think about.

864
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 3>All Right, there was a first resurrection that I think

865
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 3>is very interesting that I think your audience should know

866
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:20.760
<v Speaker 3>about it. And I did read I did talk about

867
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.960
<v Speaker 3>it in Matthew twenty seven, verse forty six through fifty four.

868
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:26.760
<v Speaker 3>And this is when Jesus actually died on the cross. Right,

869
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:30.719
<v Speaker 3>So some people would say, like, you know, what's the

870
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 3>mechanics here? How is God going to do something like that? Well,

871
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:36.760
<v Speaker 3>when you read in Matthew twenty seven, forty six through

872
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 3>fifty four, it says, and about the night that or

873
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.119
<v Speaker 3>Jesus cried out with the loud wars with the loud voice,

874
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 3>I l I a lama's about Tanika. I don't really

875
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:48.480
<v Speaker 3>know how to pronounce that, but it says that is

876
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.039
<v Speaker 3>my God, my God, Why you forsaking me. Some of

877
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 3>those who stood there, when they heard, they said that

878
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 3>the man is calling for Elijah. Immediately one of them

879
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.199
<v Speaker 3>ran and took a sponge, filled it with sour mind,

880
00:43:58.239 --> 00:43:59.639
<v Speaker 3>and put it on a read and offered it to

881
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.639
<v Speaker 3>him to drink. And the rest said, let him alone,

882
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:04.599
<v Speaker 3>let us see if Elijah will come to save him.

883
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.039
<v Speaker 3>And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice. It

884
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:11.119
<v Speaker 3>yielded up his spirit. Then behold, the veil of the

885
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:13.800
<v Speaker 3>temple was torn in two from the top to the bottom.

886
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.559
<v Speaker 3>That's that's significant, because it's not being torn from the

887
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 3>bottom to the top, which would be what would be

888
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 3>that maybe somebody doing that. It's torn from the top

889
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.320
<v Speaker 3>to the bottom, which means I think that that would

890
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 3>give you more of an idea that that was God

891
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 3>doing that. And the earthquake and the rocks were split,

892
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 3>and the graves were open, and many bodies of the

893
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:35.480
<v Speaker 3>saints who had fallen asleep were raised and coming out

894
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 3>of the graves. After his resurrection and went into the

895
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Holy City and appeared to many. So when the centurion

896
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:45.199
<v Speaker 3>and those with him reguarded Jesus saw the earthquake and

897
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.920
<v Speaker 3>the things guarded Jesus and saw the earthquake and the

898
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 3>things that happened, they feared greatly, saying truly was the

899
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:55.719
<v Speaker 3>son of God. So this is very interesting. It's talking

900
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 3>about a resurrection of the old saints and from the grave.

901
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Uh that were that were that were falling asleep or

902
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.159
<v Speaker 3>dead were raised coming out of the graves. So I

903
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.239
<v Speaker 3>think it's something that people need to pay attention to.

904
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:09.159
<v Speaker 3>I think it's really interesting. I think you can look

905
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 3>in Ezekiel where it talks about basically him taking bones

906
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.599
<v Speaker 3>and putting uh uh you know, basically having having the

907
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.480
<v Speaker 3>dead rise and and having even tendants put on the

908
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.039
<v Speaker 3>bones of the of these people that are gonna risee.

909
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:28.199
<v Speaker 3>So I think it's uh interesting. But uh, I don't

910
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:29.960
<v Speaker 3>know what what Justin has to say about that one,

911
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:31.280
<v Speaker 3>But go ahead.

912
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, Catalyst, he was leaning forward like he's about to

913
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:35.480
<v Speaker 1>say something. Was you gonna say something?

914
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Rather?

915
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:39.039
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm I'm I'm I really want to hear what

916
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:40.719
<v Speaker 2>you have to say about this. I was just leaning

917
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:42.519
<v Speaker 2>forward because I'm intently listening.

918
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 1>But now, yeah, that is definitely something that people look

919
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>over that when that happened. But uh, and one thing

920
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I was going to show you too is I think

921
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you touched on this earlier, Josh. But uh that second

922
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Thessalonians one and two. The context of those two chapters

923
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>make two comings very difficult, one to save and one

924
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 1>to judge. Chapter one, verse sixty eight describes Jesus coming

925
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:19.360
<v Speaker 1>to give relief to believers and affliction to the non believers.

926
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:23.599
<v Speaker 1>It's one coming, but Paul says, these two things happen

927
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>when the Lord is revealed from heaven. So Chapter two,

928
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 1>verse one says, concerning the coming of the Lord and

929
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 1>us being gathered together to meet him, we ask you

930
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>brothers not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed

931
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:43.519
<v Speaker 1>by the spirit or spoken word or letter seeming to

932
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>be from us to the effect that the Lord has

933
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:51.480
<v Speaker 1>all come, has come already. So obviously someone who's going

934
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 1>around saying that's already happened. You've missed the bus, you

935
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>were left behind, and he's telling them, no, no, no, no.

936
00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>If anybody tries to tell you the Lord's come already,

937
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>don't believe. It's a lot. And even like this little

938
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.679
<v Speaker 1>season stuff, I mean, I think it's very interesting, but

939
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 1>versus like that kind of put it to bed for me.

940
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, there are people that there's people that have

941
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:18.079
<v Speaker 2>arguments that make me still torn though, right like because

942
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 2>there's people that are coming out with when he was

943
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:23.760
<v Speaker 2>talking to his apostles like that it's going to be

944
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 2>in your generation, like telling people not to have children

945
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:27.599
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that.

946
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.079
<v Speaker 4>So that's also.

947
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Ed Maybury has a good argument for that. I had

948
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:36.559
<v Speaker 1>ed on and I actually brought Brian from Demon Racers

949
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:40.039
<v Speaker 1>and JT on to give their talk for the Little

950
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Season why they believe it, But then I also had

951
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Ad maybray On saying why he doesn't believe it, and

952
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I thought his response to that was pretty good. He

953
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:51.599
<v Speaker 1>said that he was telling them that they will see

954
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:56.039
<v Speaker 1>him coming in his glory in their lifetime. Well what

955
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:59.039
<v Speaker 1>happens right after that they go to Mount Hermond and

956
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Jesus transfigure. They definitely seen him coming in all his glory.

957
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:08.880
<v Speaker 1>So and this event, yeah, I think they they.

958
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I've had JT on as well, and I also

959
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.000
<v Speaker 3>had Gary Wayne and UH and Ed Maybrion doing uh

960
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.440
<v Speaker 3>a Satan's Little Season d Bunk, and then I had

961
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.960
<v Speaker 3>I had j T and then another two gentlemen UH

962
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 3>come on and kind of do their thing and and

963
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 3>it's like like Justin was saying it it is interesting

964
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 3>and and it's but it is Uh at this moment,

965
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe we're in Satan's little season, but uh,

966
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 3>I think it is interesting and I and I and

967
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:38.280
<v Speaker 3>since since somebody can go verse by verse and explain

968
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 3>why they believe something, then I have no problem having

969
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:42.400
<v Speaker 3>them come on my show and express why they believe it.

970
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.639
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think it's a When you can do that,

971
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 3>then then I then I don't mind. But if you're

972
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:49.639
<v Speaker 3>gonna come on and just give your opinion, then that

973
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 3>that's different, you know. But I don't mind somebody coming

974
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 3>on doing a verse by verse just like Justin would

975
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:56.880
<v Speaker 3>have or you know, and and explain why they believe that.

976
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 3>But we need to understand that.

977
00:48:59.400 --> 00:48:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

978
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Matthew twenty four thirty six through thirty seven, it says,

979
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:04.760
<v Speaker 3>but of that day and hour no one knows but

980
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 3>even the angels of heaven but my father only. But

981
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:09.960
<v Speaker 3>as the days of Noah were, so also will be

982
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.840
<v Speaker 3>the coming of the Son of Man. Be right. So

983
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:14.800
<v Speaker 3>we do need to understand that. We don't want to

984
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:16.880
<v Speaker 3>get caught off guard, and we need to keep what

985
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:19.039
<v Speaker 3>we're doing, you know, we need to be spreading the gospel.

986
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:20.599
<v Speaker 3>We need to keep people in the world. We need

987
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.199
<v Speaker 3>to bring the Word alive. We need people to be

988
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:26.519
<v Speaker 3>We need to keep doing our job. You know, Jesus

989
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 3>doesn't say that He's not letting us know. And plus

990
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.360
<v Speaker 3>he's trying to keep it a secret from the devil

991
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 3>when he's coming and when tribulation is going to come

992
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 3>as well, So the devil needs to be surprised. So

993
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:37.920
<v Speaker 3>when people are trying to tell you that they know

994
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:41.280
<v Speaker 3>that the rapture's coming next week or in two weeks,

995
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 3>or God gave me a vision and dream and and

996
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 3>God does say he comes to prophets and visions and

997
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:48.480
<v Speaker 3>dreams and numbers twelve verses four through eight. I spoke

998
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 3>to Moses face to face. He does say that. But

999
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.440
<v Speaker 3>people need to understand that nobody knows the time of

1000
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:55.400
<v Speaker 3>the hour. So when you sit here and you try

1001
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 3>to give dates, which I'm telling you, guys, there has

1002
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 3>been let me see how many people that I have

1003
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:04.000
<v Speaker 3>just on this list of people that have given dates

1004
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.519
<v Speaker 3>that the rapture is coming, and what that makes them

1005
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:11.800
<v Speaker 3>is false prophets. Right, So there was back in twenty

1006
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:16.280
<v Speaker 3>sixty date setter. There's all the way to thirteen sixty five,

1007
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 3>sixteen sixty sixteen sixty eight, sixteen eighty nine, eighteen sixty six,

1008
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.159
<v Speaker 3>eighteen thirty six, eighteen forty seven. I'm not going to

1009
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 3>bore you guys with the names because you won't even

1010
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:28.440
<v Speaker 3>know the people are until you get to like C. T.

1011
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Russell Set, which is gonna I think that might be

1012
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:34.599
<v Speaker 3>the Jove's wittest guy eighteen seventy four, nineteen eighty eight,

1013
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.320
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four, two thousands. I mean, all these people

1014
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:39.119
<v Speaker 3>have been trying to tell you that the rapture's coming,

1015
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not saying that that was a rapture back

1016
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 3>in the debt back in twenty eighty where they were

1017
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 3>talking about the rapture happening, but they were just there

1018
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.960
<v Speaker 3>were just date setting that Jesus is coming back during

1019
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.480
<v Speaker 3>that time. So yeah, there's been a lot of people

1020
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:52.760
<v Speaker 3>doing that, and lately that happened with that guy Caleb

1021
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I think from Africa. And now we have the Internet now,

1022
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 3>so it's even easier for it for the information to

1023
00:50:57.519 --> 00:50:59.760
<v Speaker 3>get out and it's a it's a good way to

1024
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.840
<v Speaker 3>get you know, a good million views, But we don't

1025
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:04.880
<v Speaker 3>want to be doing that. You know as Christians did

1026
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 3>every year.

1027
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Man, the face of trumpets, He's coming. It's coming every

1028
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:10.119
<v Speaker 1>year around the face of trumpets.

1029
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 4>Man, it was crazy.

1030
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:14.880
<v Speaker 2>There's people on the internet that were like big time,

1031
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.480
<v Speaker 2>like have huge accounts and huge followings. It's like, this

1032
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 2>is my last post if you guys level like totally

1033
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:26.280
<v Speaker 2>believing this shit. But like I'm watching this like these

1034
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:28.360
<v Speaker 2>people are out of their mind. This reminds me of

1035
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 2>those people that put on nikes and we're waiting for

1036
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Haley's comment, like what is actually going on here?

1037
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:36.519
<v Speaker 4>And it's it's easy.

1038
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I can see how easily people could get caught up

1039
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 2>and fall into that, especially if they think that they

1040
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.119
<v Speaker 2>are doing the right thing. But man, isn't this another

1041
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 2>one of Satan's tricks.

1042
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:51.679
<v Speaker 1>Is to you know what I mean? In my opinion,

1043
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:54.119
<v Speaker 1>it just makes us look like a death could you

1044
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:57.800
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? We're constantly, Oh, it's coming, Destruction's coming.

1045
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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be pulled out, so do what y'all want,

1046
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.639
<v Speaker 1>which I can definitely sympathize with JT how he wraps

1047
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.280
<v Speaker 1>his mind around believing in the Satans Little Season, because

1048
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:11.679
<v Speaker 1>I believe his reasoning for wanting to believe it is

1049
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>correct because he says everybody believes in this pre tribulation rapture,

1050
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.320
<v Speaker 1>he said, so that they're praying for the death of

1051
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the world. He said, that makes them look like a

1052
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>death cult. He said. At the same time, if you

1053
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:28.079
<v Speaker 1>think you got this get out of jail free card,

1054
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:31.639
<v Speaker 1>then you can do what you want. You could sit

1055
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:34.639
<v Speaker 1>back let the world just turn into utter shit and

1056
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:38.760
<v Speaker 1>destruction and moral depravity, and you can just sit back

1057
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:40.639
<v Speaker 1>and say, oh, well, it's written in the Bible. It's

1058
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:43.320
<v Speaker 1>going to pass. I can't do nothing about it, so therefore,

1059
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not gonna be here for it anyway, so

1060
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>just let it all burn. You know, I could definitely

1061
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.760
<v Speaker 1>see that as being problematic because I'm the type of

1062
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>person that believes, you know, God give us dominion of

1063
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the earth to subdue it and to rule it. And

1064
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:01.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean this in a a bad way, but

1065
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like even like al Pacino said in The Devil's Advocate,

1066
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>he said that, you know, God is a vacant landlord.

1067
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Technically that is kind of true. He does intervene, but

1068
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:16.320
<v Speaker 1>he give it to us to rule as he rules heaven,

1069
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:18.599
<v Speaker 1>and he does like the Great Flood, there's times that

1070
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 1>he steps in intervenes when he needs to level the

1071
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>playing field. But we are left to our own devices.

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00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 1>We are to be imagers of God and rule as

1073
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:29.280
<v Speaker 1>he rules in heaven on earth as it is in heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to live and die by the decisions

1075
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and choices that we make. And so if we all

1076
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't have this, you know, pre tribulation get out of

1077
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 1>jail free card in our minds, I think we would

1078
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:46.039
<v Speaker 1>be doing a lot better to reach more people, make

1079
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.199
<v Speaker 1>the world a better place around us, and be better

1080
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:54.480
<v Speaker 1>imagers of God and lords of His realm. And before

1081
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:56.760
<v Speaker 1>we dive off, I got a couple of verses I

1082
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:58.320
<v Speaker 1>don't want to thrust you because I've just been kind

1083
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>of generally speaking, and I want to to throw them

1084
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:03.400
<v Speaker 1>out for those that wanted to see the reason why

1085
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I believe that we are going to go through the tribulation.

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00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:13.039
<v Speaker 1>John Chapter sixteen, verse thirty three. I have told you

1087
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:16.519
<v Speaker 1>these things so that in me you may have peace.

1088
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:21.320
<v Speaker 1>In this world. You will have trouble, but take heart,

1089
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I have overcome the world. So he tells you you're

1090
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 1>going to go through trouble. You're going to go through tribulation.

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00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Revelation chapter seven, verse fourteen, These are those who have

1092
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:36.400
<v Speaker 1>come out of the Great tribulation.

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00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Actually in the New King James, of the King James

1094
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:43.519
<v Speaker 3>when he said troubled that the word actually is tribulation

1095
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:47.599
<v Speaker 3>in the New King James with that verse of John nineteen.

1096
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it says tribulation literally in the New King James.

1097
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:52.480
<v Speaker 3>But go ahead, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so like at the Revelation it says, you know,

1099
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 1>for these are the ones who have come out of

1100
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:01.519
<v Speaker 1>the Great Tribula. So it tells you that they were

1101
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:05.199
<v Speaker 1>in it, because they come out of it. Revelation three ten.

1102
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<v Speaker 1>Since you have kept my commandment to endure patiently, I

1103
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>will also keep you from the hour of trial that

1104
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 1>is going to come on the whole earth to test

1105
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:23.079
<v Speaker 1>the inhabitants of earth. Revelation twenty two twelve. Look I

1106
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 1>am coming soon. My reward is coming with me, and

1107
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I will give to each person according to what they

1108
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:34.800
<v Speaker 1>have done. And I got two more Matthew twenty five

1109
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:38.519
<v Speaker 1>thirty two. All the nations will be gathered before him,

1110
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and he will separate the people one from another, as

1111
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 1>a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And Revelation

1112
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 1>nine to four. This is the fifth trumpet. Hurt not

1113
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.599
<v Speaker 1>the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees till we

1114
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:56.599
<v Speaker 1>have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

1115
00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.159
<v Speaker 1>So if we are raptured out, why do we need

1116
00:55:59.199 --> 00:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>marks of protection?

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00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, and it gets it's very interesting and the

1118
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 3>verses that you and and you know what, I think

1119
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:10.760
<v Speaker 3>it's it's the most important justin for us to be

1120
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:13.679
<v Speaker 3>reading scripture, you know. I know that sometimes we just

1121
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:15.519
<v Speaker 3>like you were doing right there, I think it's most

1122
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 3>important people need to hear it. What happens is, uh,

1123
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people will paraphrase or they'll just be

1124
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:23.239
<v Speaker 3>like you know, they'll they'll try to say a scripture,

1125
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:26.320
<v Speaker 3>and I think it's most important to read it out loud, verse,

1126
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:28.760
<v Speaker 3>word for word the way that you were doing that,

1127
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I try to do that on as

1128
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 3>many shows as I can, because some people get it twisted,

1129
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:37.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, and then you know there, I'm.

1130
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:39.639
<v Speaker 4>Sorry one hundred bro.

1131
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:44.519
<v Speaker 2>Because since I've been following along with your Bible studies,

1132
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I can tell when people are speaking about the Bible

1133
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 2>because they've heard people talking about certain stories, and I

1134
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:56.400
<v Speaker 2>can tell when people actually are well versed in the Bible.

1135
00:56:56.800 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Like me, I'm not well versed in the Bible, so

1136
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm easily manipulated when I listened to people talk. So

1137
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:05.719
<v Speaker 2>it's very important for me to go back to the

1138
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Bible and know these things because I'm not gonna I

1139
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:14.079
<v Speaker 2>don't like to give names. But a cool influencer that

1140
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I like to follow, started saying some things and I'm like, well,

1141
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:21.039
<v Speaker 2>hang on, And she was talking about Adam and Eve

1142
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 2>and what really took place there, and what she was

1143
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 2>saying was like not vibing with what I've read, And

1144
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.360
<v Speaker 2>so I wrote to her and I was like, that

1145
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.800
<v Speaker 2>sounds like somebody that heard of the story of Adam

1146
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and Eve and didn't actually read the Bible, and just

1147
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 2>being able to know that if I didn't listen along

1148
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:47.840
<v Speaker 2>and read and read along with you, then I would

1149
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:52.000
<v Speaker 2>have been easily drifted, like pulled in to her belief.

1150
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, And what happens is there's a lot of

1151
00:57:56.159 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 3>things where they don't clarify like I heard justin a

1152
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:03.360
<v Speaker 3>lot on which I love that he does and I

1153
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:06.559
<v Speaker 3>try to do as well. When I'm teaching, I'm clarifying

1154
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:09.119
<v Speaker 3>where the information is coming from because there might be

1155
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:13.199
<v Speaker 3>something in Josephus's writing something in Josh the Book of Josher,

1156
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:17.159
<v Speaker 3>there might be something that we're talking about. And if

1157
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:19.880
<v Speaker 3>you don't clarify that, the people that are listening intently,

1158
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:21.639
<v Speaker 3>who don't want to go and do the research themselves,

1159
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:23.719
<v Speaker 3>they're going to think that is in the Bible, and

1160
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:25.119
<v Speaker 3>then they're going to be like, oh, in the Tower

1161
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:28.199
<v Speaker 3>of Abbel, you know it, this is what happened. And

1162
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:30.320
<v Speaker 3>then and then when you read the actual scriptures, like

1163
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:33.599
<v Speaker 3>in Genesis, then it's because it came from Josephus's writings

1164
00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:35.639
<v Speaker 3>or it came from the Book of Josher. And I'm

1165
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:39.400
<v Speaker 3>noticing that. That's why it's good to clarify first that

1166
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:42.119
<v Speaker 3>this is where I got this information from. And then

1167
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.880
<v Speaker 3>you say it, which I've heard justin on his you

1168
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Dig podcast say that and also on his recent episodes

1169
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:52.280
<v Speaker 3>that he does as well. And I think it's vastly important.

1170
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:55.400
<v Speaker 3>People are listening intently and they're trusting what you're saying.

1171
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 3>And now you've gone from being a podcaster to becoming

1172
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.920
<v Speaker 3>a teacher, which in the Book of James it says

1173
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.199
<v Speaker 3>teaching is not for everybody, because we're going to be

1174
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.199
<v Speaker 3>judged more than the average person. So now we are

1175
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:10.280
<v Speaker 3>sitting here, uh, and we're also benefiting financially from it.

1176
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:13.079
<v Speaker 3>So now we're going from being just regular podcasters to

1177
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:16.000
<v Speaker 3>being teachers of the Word. And I think it's important

1178
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 3>for us to understand what we're what are wrong?

1179
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:21.679
<v Speaker 2>Don't you at that point, don't you put that on me, Ricky, Bobby,

1180
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:25.480
<v Speaker 2>don't you put that evil on me. I don't know.

1181
00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:29.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know enough to be teaching anything. I'm learning

1182
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully the people that listen to the podcast are

1183
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 2>learning with me. I am not an authority figure on this.

1184
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I cannot quote Bible scripture, and I believe I have

1185
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:45.719
<v Speaker 2>faith and I'm learning, So don't take anything I say

1186
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 2>as coming from the Word.

1187
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:50.519
<v Speaker 1>That's the same thing with me. I tell people, I

1188
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:53.079
<v Speaker 1>mean I like to read, and I've studied this stuff

1189
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:55.559
<v Speaker 1>for a long time, and i have my opinions, and

1190
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I will, you know, deep die a subject or a scripture,

1191
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:02.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'll my best to read the verses to you

1192
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and let you know what they say. And if I

1193
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:08.280
<v Speaker 1>do add other extra biblical sources, I try to cite

1194
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 1>those and try to formulate my idea. But I try

1195
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:12.400
<v Speaker 1>to give everybody the information I try to put the

1196
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:15.840
<v Speaker 1>cards on the table, and I'm like, Okay, with all

1197
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.079
<v Speaker 1>the cards on the table, I believe X y Z.

1198
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Because of this passage and this passage here and this

1199
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:26.440
<v Speaker 1>extra biblical source. It makes me believe this. But I

1200
01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:28.800
<v Speaker 1>tell people, don't take my word for it, because you

1201
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 1>can look at the same set of cards and come

1202
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:35.400
<v Speaker 1>to a different conclusion. So I try to examine the stuff,

1203
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.599
<v Speaker 1>give my opinions and interpretations on the stuff, but I

1204
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:43.840
<v Speaker 1>highly encourage people to look into it for themselves because

1205
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:46.599
<v Speaker 1>number one, that's the only way that you're going to

1206
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:49.519
<v Speaker 1>truly accept an idea is if you believe it's yours

1207
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and you come to that decision yourself. But also, at

1208
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the same time, like Josh said, I don't want to

1209
01:00:56.280 --> 01:01:01.159
<v Speaker 1>be viewed as an all knowing wizard and have all

1210
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the answers, because nothing would pain me more in my

1211
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:10.840
<v Speaker 1>spirit than to mislead somebody and cost them their salvation

1212
01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:13.840
<v Speaker 1>or their relationship with God or reading their book because

1213
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:15.920
<v Speaker 1>they just rely on me because I got it all

1214
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.519
<v Speaker 1>figured out. I don't. We are all on this journey.

1215
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.360
<v Speaker 1>We are all trying to strive and learn and grow

1216
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:29.840
<v Speaker 1>closer to God. And I just try to fascilitate excursions

1217
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:30.760
<v Speaker 1>into the word.

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01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Let me see, let me see if I can if

1219
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:38.639
<v Speaker 2>I can make your point here that everybody reads these

1220
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:43.199
<v Speaker 2>cards differently, so to speak. So the other day I

1221
01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:46.320
<v Speaker 2>text Josh and I asked him a question because I

1222
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:49.320
<v Speaker 2>was having a moral issue with something and I really

1223
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't know where it landed. So I want to learn

1224
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Spanish because I work with a lot of people that

1225
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.320
<v Speaker 2>speak Spanish and there's just a language barrier there and

1226
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.679
<v Speaker 2>I think it would be easier to speak it. And

1227
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<v Speaker 2>my mom suggested that I download Babel and I was like,

1228
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:08.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to use that, and she was like,

1229
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:10.599
<v Speaker 2>well why not? And I was like, because it's a

1230
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:14.119
<v Speaker 2>spit in the face. It's like a mockery to God.

1231
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like, the whole story was he didn't want

1232
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:22.000
<v Speaker 2>them creating this tower to reach him, and so he

1233
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:24.840
<v Speaker 2>changed the languages so that they wouldn't be able to

1234
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 2>continue their work and for us to have an app

1235
01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:30.639
<v Speaker 2>to just be like a middle finger to him, like

1236
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:33.639
<v Speaker 2>look at what we're doing now. And the fact that

1237
01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 2>they called it Babel is why I won't mess with it.

1238
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Is like I want to learn the language, but no,

1239
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:42.159
<v Speaker 2>you're calling it Babel. That's like, that's like a middle

1240
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:43.920
<v Speaker 2>finger to me, and I don't want to do that.

1241
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Like where do you think? Like, is am I wrong

1242
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:48.199
<v Speaker 2>on this?

1243
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Well with me? And like I said, I'm not.

1244
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm different than a lot of people, But I'm one

1245
01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:58.400
<v Speaker 1>of those type of people that thinks one person's sin

1246
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:03.000
<v Speaker 1>or conviction is not the other. You know, when I

1247
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:06.840
<v Speaker 1>read the Bible, I read that Jesus's first miracle he

1248
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:10.320
<v Speaker 1>turned water into wine. That was his first miracle. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't unfermented grape juice, No, the text says it was white.

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<v Speaker 1>At the dinners and Last Supper, they drink wine and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I will not partake of this wine anymore

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<v Speaker 1>until the new heabit of New Earth comes. So do

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<v Speaker 1>I think drinking is a sin? No? Not at all?

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<v Speaker 1>But can it? Can a person turn it into a sin? One?

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<v Speaker 1>And just as you're coming through it right now, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some people that can have a beer or two and

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<v Speaker 1>wash the football game or have it with their dinner

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't control them. Then they can stop after

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<v Speaker 1>one or two. But there's some people that can't. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't control themselves. So you can't just say I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to outlaw alcohol for everybody because it has a negative

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<v Speaker 1>effect on me. It's my sin, so therefore it's everybody sin.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that. I believe it's one person's sin,

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01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it is not the other. And I think your convictions

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01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:10.320
<v Speaker 1>are the same. You know, obviously you felt convicted not

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01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:12.199
<v Speaker 1>to do that, then I think you should follow that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's Some people call it a conscience, some

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01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.639
<v Speaker 1>people call it the Holy spirit. But either way, I

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<v Speaker 1>try to trust that inner voice a lot as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I can, and when I ignore it, I usually regret

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<v Speaker 1>it nine out ten times.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, justin do you think you gave me a different answer? Huh?

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01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:34.880
<v Speaker 4>Do you think you gave me a different answer than Josh?

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<v Speaker 1>No, probably not. He probably said the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just smiling.

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01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:42.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So me personally, I wouldn't care about using

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01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that app just because of the name, because the end,

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01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:51.079
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, God is in control.

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01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:52.719
<v Speaker 1>If he didn't want us to be able to communicate

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01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:55.800
<v Speaker 1>with other languages, he wouldn't have made the person come

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01:04:55.880 --> 01:04:58.159
<v Speaker 1>up with that app babble. He wouldn't have. And if

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01:04:58.159 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you didn't use that a there's a hundred other ones

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01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:02.559
<v Speaker 1>so that the end results the same. But if you

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01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.760
<v Speaker 1>can feel convicted that that is a middle finger to

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01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:08.679
<v Speaker 1>the Creator, then out by all means yes, don't use it.

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01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:11.679
<v Speaker 3>You can use that to put a middle finger to Satan.

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01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:13.679
<v Speaker 3>You know why. You can learn different languages and start

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01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:15.159
<v Speaker 3>spreading the Gospel in different languages.

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01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:15.800
<v Speaker 1>So you can tell me.

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01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:18.039
<v Speaker 3>That middle finger that they maybe did to the most

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01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:20.079
<v Speaker 3>high and you can flip it right back on Satan

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01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:21.440
<v Speaker 3>and say, you know what, I'm going to learn all

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01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:23.760
<v Speaker 3>these languages so I could spread the Gospel to more people.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's something I thought about after I talked to you,

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01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:28.320
<v Speaker 3>and then as well, I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say, like a tool is in

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01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:34.920
<v Speaker 2>how you use it, right, Like a gun can be

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01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:37.840
<v Speaker 2>used as a good thing or a bad thing. However,

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01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:41.119
<v Speaker 2>if I know the intention of the person that made

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01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:44.840
<v Speaker 2>that weapon, I'm going to use the same weapon made

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01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:48.320
<v Speaker 2>by somebody else that didn't have that same intention. So

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01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:50.360
<v Speaker 2>there's other apps out there that I can use.

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01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:52.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I was telling you that you know that

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01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:56.199
<v Speaker 3>you could use other ones, but I think that I

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01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:57.840
<v Speaker 3>would say as well as a lot like I told

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01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:00.480
<v Speaker 3>you as well, that there's we use in Instagram, we

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01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:03.639
<v Speaker 3>use TikTok, we use YouTube, and all these people that

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01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.239
<v Speaker 3>created those they might not have been. We used the

1310
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:08.760
<v Speaker 3>world Wide Web, I mean that came from CERN. There's

1311
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:10.519
<v Speaker 3>all these different things that we use as well. So

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01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.599
<v Speaker 3>I think that when you get convicted like you did,

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01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:16.840
<v Speaker 3>and if you hit me up out of nowhere about that,

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01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:19.119
<v Speaker 3>then obviously you should follow that. And you felt that

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01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:21.000
<v Speaker 3>way for a reason. So, like I said, same exact

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01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:24.199
<v Speaker 3>thing that justin basically said, I you feel convicted, then

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01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:25.079
<v Speaker 3>listen to the voice.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's weird that I chose chose that battle though,

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01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:31.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I'm sitting here talking to you on

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01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:34.039
<v Speaker 2>an apple product that has a bite taken out of

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01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:35.800
<v Speaker 2>it that could you know, like.

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01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:41.880
<v Speaker 3>That's forbidden fruit. Yeah it was forbidden fruit. But I

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01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:44.159
<v Speaker 3>think that doctor has a different interpretation of that.

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01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:49.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, But I'm saying that the intention behind it, right,

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01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:53.320
<v Speaker 2>the intention behind it is what I'm talking about. And

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01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.199
<v Speaker 2>so I'm being hypocritical, is what I'm saying, because I'm

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01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:59.559
<v Speaker 2>sitting here talking to you on something that was created

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01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:01.960
<v Speaker 2>by some made that had intention behind it that was

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01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:02.440
<v Speaker 2>not good.

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<v Speaker 1>But once again, you know what you are around, You're

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01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:08.199
<v Speaker 1>using it for good in their scripture. That backs that

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01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:10.519
<v Speaker 1>up to what the devil means for harm. God uses

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01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:13.280
<v Speaker 1>for good for all those who love him.

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01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Ooh, I like that that is true.

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01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:18.920
<v Speaker 3>And then catalysts. Probably as I'm going through the Word,

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01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:22.079
<v Speaker 3>as you've been listening, I'm sure you're finding things where

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01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:25.159
<v Speaker 3>you're like, man, I thought that this was there, but

1338
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:27.559
<v Speaker 3>it's not. And I've been finding stuff like that, and

1339
01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:29.360
<v Speaker 3>I try to mention that people when I'm going through

1340
01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:31.079
<v Speaker 3>the Word, like man, I thought this is there, but

1341
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:34.920
<v Speaker 3>it's not. But and the times that God does intervene too,

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01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:37.480
<v Speaker 3>that's really interesting that you know that Justin was talking

1343
01:07:37.519 --> 01:07:41.719
<v Speaker 3>about that God's sovereignty. I'm noticing that, Bro, I.

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01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:42.639
<v Speaker 4>Didn't know anything.

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01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know anything about Saul. Like he's not talked

1346
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:50.440
<v Speaker 2>about in my It hasn't been talked about in my

1347
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:54.079
<v Speaker 2>life people around me. So like you reading through that

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01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:57.280
<v Speaker 2>is my first time hearing that, So like I'm hearing

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01:07:57.320 --> 01:07:58.639
<v Speaker 2>things for the very first time.

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01:07:58.719 --> 01:07:59.639
<v Speaker 4>It's awesome.

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01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:03.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And honestly, I've read through the Bible right with

1352
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:06.559
<v Speaker 3>my wife, and when we read through the Bible, I

1353
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:09.559
<v Speaker 3>was reading through the Bible just to get through the Bible. Oh,

1354
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:11.519
<v Speaker 3>I got I got ten chapters done today.

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01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yay.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that's what I was kind of doing back

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01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:15.360
<v Speaker 3>in the day. And then doing this, you know, three

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01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.119
<v Speaker 3>chapters at a time, study and two hour studies on

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01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:20.119
<v Speaker 3>it is has been helping me as well.

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01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:20.479
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So God is just you know, oops on my screen

1362
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:26.079
<v Speaker 3>went weird right there? Okay, Yeah, so that God has

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01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:28.119
<v Speaker 3>been helping me as well creating this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. With every episode, every episode that you do, there

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01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:37.600
<v Speaker 2>isn't something where I'm like, oh man, I do that constantly.

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01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:40.279
<v Speaker 2>That's something I need, I need to work on. And

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01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:42.920
<v Speaker 2>what it what it does is it doesn't necessarily make

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01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:47.239
<v Speaker 2>me stop doing those things one hundred percent, but I'm

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01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:51.680
<v Speaker 2>more aware and I feel really awful after I do them,

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01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like immediately, And so now I'm working on those things,

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01:08:56.960 --> 01:09:01.239
<v Speaker 2>whereas before it was uh sin, no big deal, like

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01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:04.399
<v Speaker 2>don't even think about it as I'm doing something as

1373
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:08.319
<v Speaker 2>it's something wrong, you know, And now I'm like, oh

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01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:10.880
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, like I can't be doing that anymore.

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01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:14.359
<v Speaker 1>That's the Holy Spirit, man. And what's funny is about

1377
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Saul is I've told people this because it's kind of

1378
01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like one of my convictions is when I read Saul,

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01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I see a guy that loves the Lord. But he's

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01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:32.079
<v Speaker 1>one of those lean on my own strength kind of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And it says that when they picked him, they picked

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01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:37.680
<v Speaker 1>him because they said they wanted a king like the

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01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:41.600
<v Speaker 1>other nations, because the other nations were the refinem, the giants.

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01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:44.880
<v Speaker 1>They had giants for kings, and there were giant warriors.

1385
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:47.880
<v Speaker 1>And it says that Saul was a head and shoulders

1386
01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:51.479
<v Speaker 1>taller than any other Israelite, so that's why they picked him.

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01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:54.760
<v Speaker 1>He was a warrior. He was a giant warrior king. Yeah,

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01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:57.479
<v Speaker 1>but when you go through and read his accounts, what happens.

1389
01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:00.840
<v Speaker 1>He always relies on his own strength instead of leaning

1390
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:03.319
<v Speaker 1>on God. And the thing that got him, you know,

1391
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:07.720
<v Speaker 1>severed from God was he was supposed to wait for

1392
01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the prophet to come and make a sacrifice before they

1393
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:13.239
<v Speaker 1>went into war. Well, the prophet was running late. He

1394
01:10:13.239 --> 01:10:15.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't show up on time, so I was ready to go.

1395
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:18.520
<v Speaker 1>So he didn't think it was important to wait on

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01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the prophet. He thought it was important to just do

1397
01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the sacrifice. So he's like, well, I can do that,

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01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:26.840
<v Speaker 1>So he just grabs an animal, does the sacrifice, does

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01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:29.199
<v Speaker 1>all the rights, just like the prophet did. But the

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01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:31.880
<v Speaker 1>prophet shows up and sees what he's done, He's like,

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01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:34.239
<v Speaker 1>you didn't, really, you didn't wait on me like I

1402
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:36.760
<v Speaker 1>told you to. God told you to wait on me,

1403
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and I was supposed to do this. Because you've done this,

1404
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:42.199
<v Speaker 1>you're cut off now. But time and time again, you

1405
01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:45.239
<v Speaker 1>see that instead of being patient and waiting on God

1406
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to move, he always tries to lean on his own

1407
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:51.439
<v Speaker 1>strength and do things his own way. And that's what

1408
01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:55.880
<v Speaker 1>with all the time is God's strengthen up and try

1409
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to do it myself.

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01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious, why do you guys think he saved some

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01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:06.159
<v Speaker 2>of the livestock and the leaders when he was supposed

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01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:07.039
<v Speaker 2>to slaughter everyone.

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01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Greed?

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01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, greed and also as you see he those

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01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:15.159
<v Speaker 3>are the Amalekites and what they what they what they

1416
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:18.479
<v Speaker 3>did is they actually came from behind to take out

1417
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:21.520
<v Speaker 3>the pregnant women and the week. That's what That's what happened.

1418
01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:23.960
<v Speaker 3>And then God to destroy all of them. But like

1419
01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:27.640
<v Speaker 3>it is greed if he thought basically, hey, this this

1420
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:29.479
<v Speaker 3>stuff is still good, so I might as well just

1421
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:32.960
<v Speaker 3>take it. And uh, he also kept the king alive. Uh,

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01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:35.039
<v Speaker 3>so he didn't destroy all the men, women, and children

1423
01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:37.600
<v Speaker 3>of the tribe, you know, so very very big problem

1424
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:41.239
<v Speaker 3>on his part. But I think you brought up a

1425
01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:43.520
<v Speaker 3>good point justin where he just thinks, hey, I'm king,

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01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:45.640
<v Speaker 3>I could I could go ahead and do the sacrifice.

1427
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:47.199
<v Speaker 3>And it was Samuel that he was waiting on. And

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01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Samuel when he came, Samuel was really disappointed, like this

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01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.039
<v Speaker 3>is not a little issue. This is this is huge,

1430
01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:56.439
<v Speaker 3>like that you did this and he didn't understand it.

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01:11:56.680 --> 01:11:58.479
<v Speaker 3>As a king, I could be priests as a king,

1432
01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:00.359
<v Speaker 3>I could be prophet as a king. I could do

1433
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:02.640
<v Speaker 3>this because I'm king. But he doesn't understand that there's

1434
01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:04.520
<v Speaker 3>different roles that you need to play, you know, And

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01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:07.520
<v Speaker 3>and Saul wasn't understanding that, and Saul was not leaning

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01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:10.199
<v Speaker 3>on it. He was leaning on his own understanding, like

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01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:12.760
<v Speaker 3>like it says not to do in Proverbs three. I

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01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:14.760
<v Speaker 3>think it's a verse five or something like that. But

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01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:17.520
<v Speaker 3>also I think it's interesting about King Saul. I think

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01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:22.680
<v Speaker 3>when you in first Amuel twenty eight catalysts, he now

1441
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:25.600
<v Speaker 3>need he wants God right. Samuel is gone, right, he's dead,

1442
01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:27.920
<v Speaker 3>and he's like and he's asking God. He's basically trying

1443
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:29.600
<v Speaker 3>to be in the ark of the Covenant when he's

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01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:31.199
<v Speaker 3>going to go to battle and it's not working. So

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01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:36.960
<v Speaker 3>then he goes to the Witch of Endoor to summon Samuel.

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01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Now he at this time, he's struggling. He needs God now,

1447
01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:42.399
<v Speaker 3>like I need God, So let me just go to

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01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:45.920
<v Speaker 3>the Witch of Ondoor and and bring this spirit of

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01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:49.720
<v Speaker 3>Samuel up out of the earth. Which is really interesting, right,

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01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:51.920
<v Speaker 3>That's that kind of goes along with my biblical cosmology. Right,

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01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:54.079
<v Speaker 3>I believe that Shiel is in the earth. But what

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01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:55.600
<v Speaker 3>do you think about that catalyst? When I was talking

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01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:57.720
<v Speaker 3>about that, because I think it was interesting that he

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<v Speaker 3>goes to speak to this medium. The Bible well literally

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<v Speaker 3>says that that that Samuel came out of the earth,

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<v Speaker 3>which I believe you would be in shield right at

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<v Speaker 3>that time. And Uh, what'd you think when I went

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<v Speaker 3>over that part?

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<v Speaker 2>That was kind of interesting, right, I I was thinking,

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01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:17.680
<v Speaker 2>have you seen the movie with Ben Stiller Meet the Parents? Yes,

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01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:21.439
<v Speaker 2>and he just keeps doing dumb stuff over and over

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01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:22.359
<v Speaker 2>again and you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, don't do that. Why what are you doing? Like

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01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:26.279
<v Speaker 4>that's what I was that was.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I was walking my dog, uh, and I

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01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:32.039
<v Speaker 2>was like, why why are you doing this? Like clearly

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01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:35.439
<v Speaker 2>you have to know that you you shouldn't be doing this,

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01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and uh, the witchcraft and magic. It's a it's a

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01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:42.239
<v Speaker 2>very funny thing because there's a lot of people in

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01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:45.880
<v Speaker 2>our conspiracy world that I'm friends with that dabble in

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01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:48.800
<v Speaker 2>this this kind of stuff, and it's I don't know

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01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:50.640
<v Speaker 2>if it is for me to say, you know, like

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01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:53.720
<v Speaker 2>we are supposed to be speaking, but like I'm not

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01:13:54.039 --> 01:13:57.199
<v Speaker 2>anybody of hey, you shouldn't be doing that. I mean,

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01:13:57.239 --> 01:14:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I had on Nick from the Occult and he was

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01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:06.239
<v Speaker 2>going through one of his rituals like what he does

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01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:08.920
<v Speaker 2>to prepare for it and everything, and then he said

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01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:11.079
<v Speaker 2>and then I pray And I said, well who do

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01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:13.800
<v Speaker 2>you pray to? And he said, I pray to Jesus?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, well, doesn't it say not to practice magic.

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01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:19.039
<v Speaker 4>In the Bible?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, like he had a reason for that.

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01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:27.439
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't know what your guys take on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I think that reaffirm is kind of like byde

1485
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the I was talking about with Saul, because once again

1486
01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:36.000
<v Speaker 1>he's waiting on the Lord. He's praying to the Lord.

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01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:38.079
<v Speaker 1>He's supposed to be waiting, but what does he do?

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01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:40.920
<v Speaker 1>He forces it, He goes out. He's like, well, I

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01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:43.600
<v Speaker 1>will force a response. I will go get this witch

1490
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:46.039
<v Speaker 1>and she will give me what I need. And either way,

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01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:47.600
<v Speaker 1>as long as I get a hold of somebody and

1492
01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:50.479
<v Speaker 1>get the Lord's word, it doesn't matter how I get it,

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01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:55.439
<v Speaker 1>that's not important.

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01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:58.199
<v Speaker 2>I gotta say too, if that sounded like I was

1495
01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:01.319
<v Speaker 2>bagging on you at all, brother, love you like nothing

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01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:01.880
<v Speaker 2>but love here.

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<v Speaker 1>We love Nick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, so yeah. I think what they do

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01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:12.560
<v Speaker 3>is they because I think I've talked to I've talked

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01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.520
<v Speaker 3>to somebody on this, But I think what they're trying

1501
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:17.640
<v Speaker 3>to do is they try to pray to Jesus to

1502
01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:20.319
<v Speaker 3>clear the spirit the evil spirits away or something like

1503
01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:23.319
<v Speaker 3>is if there's evil and good spirits dealing when you're

1504
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:25.680
<v Speaker 3>dealing with in witchcraft. But yeah, I think that you're

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01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:28.000
<v Speaker 3>right though, justin about Saul, like that's what he was doing.

1506
01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:31.680
<v Speaker 3>He was, But it's a lesson learned that when you

1507
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:34.720
<v Speaker 3>have God and you're close to God, don't separate yourself

1508
01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.079
<v Speaker 3>from God. Just keep you know, keep on going, you know.

1509
01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:39.960
<v Speaker 3>And what happened is he separated himself from God and

1510
01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:42.960
<v Speaker 3>now he's like regretting it because he's going into battle

1511
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.720
<v Speaker 3>with the Philistines, and he's like, uh, you know, but

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01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:49.479
<v Speaker 3>what happened is Samuel, which I believe it was Samuel

1513
01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:52.079
<v Speaker 3>because of the message that he told them, comes up

1514
01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:53.920
<v Speaker 3>from the dead and lets him know, like you're gonna

1515
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:56.640
<v Speaker 3>be tomorrow in battle. You're gonna be dying, right, and

1516
01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:59.560
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna die, and so is Jonathan, right, So I

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01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:02.239
<v Speaker 3>can imagine how he felt at that moment. But he

1518
01:16:02.359 --> 01:16:06.600
<v Speaker 3>had so many chances to follow God's word and to

1519
01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:09.199
<v Speaker 3>follow him, and you see how he doesn't. But it

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01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:11.399
<v Speaker 3>happens throughout the Bible and the times that God does

1521
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:15.760
<v Speaker 3>get involved. If you guys noticed in the New Time

1522
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:17.760
<v Speaker 3>or the Old Testament, I think catalyst were probably see

1523
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.680
<v Speaker 3>this is most of the time, they're my daughter's right here.

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01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:22.159
<v Speaker 3>You guys are gonna see your head kind of pop up.

1525
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:22.800
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not trying.

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01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:27.640
<v Speaker 2>She's just holding anyway, Hey, before you transition, though, I

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01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:29.920
<v Speaker 2>wanted to say because there was a parallel there.

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01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:31.960
<v Speaker 4>While Saul was.

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01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Not being able to be patient, at the same time,

1530
01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:39.479
<v Speaker 2>David was being able to be patient because there was

1531
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:42.600
<v Speaker 2>so many opportunities for him to take out Saul.

1532
01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:45.319
<v Speaker 4>And he was like, well, I'm.

1533
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Relying on you Lord, Like uh, you know, and he

1534
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:50.720
<v Speaker 2>was able to be patient, and so you were seeing

1535
01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:52.119
<v Speaker 2>that parallel right there.

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01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:56.439
<v Speaker 1>And he was a man after God's own heart. I

1537
01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:58.680
<v Speaker 1>think that was the difference. I mean, Sol screwed up,

1538
01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:01.880
<v Speaker 1>but he was probably I'm the king, you know, what

1539
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:04.479
<v Speaker 1>I did was not that bad. God will get over it,

1540
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you know kind of mentality where David, when he screwed up, man,

1541
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:11.359
<v Speaker 1>he fell to his knees and weeped and cried and

1542
01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:13.920
<v Speaker 1>begged for God's forgiveness, and God forgave him every time.

1543
01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:16.279
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's a great example in the Bible

1544
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:19.800
<v Speaker 1>when people want to do self examination and have that

1545
01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:23.199
<v Speaker 1>negative talk about themselves. I'm not worthy, I sin every day,

1546
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm this, I'm that, I'm you know, God wouldn't love me.

1547
01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:28.840
<v Speaker 1>God wouldn't do this. Look at David, Yeah, I mean

1548
01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:32.800
<v Speaker 1>he was a womanizer. The wives he had.

1549
01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:35.479
<v Speaker 3>Institute children from six different wives.

1550
01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. He slept with a married man's woman and

1551
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:41.680
<v Speaker 1>then murdered him so he could steal the woman from him.

1552
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he doesn't it wicked, evil stuff, but he

1553
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:47.319
<v Speaker 1>begged for God's forgiveness every time.

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01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:50.199
<v Speaker 3>That's Sunday Service, the one that's coming out right now.

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01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:53.039
<v Speaker 3>Kind of the stuff go over the Basiba situation with.

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01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:57.560
<v Speaker 2>David, okay, because I'm just curious because his children didn't

1557
01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:00.720
<v Speaker 2>fare out all that well, if I'm not mist right.

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01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:03.479
<v Speaker 3>That's the chaos. The reason why you have chaos like

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01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:05.560
<v Speaker 3>that is because you have six different wives with six

1560
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:07.640
<v Speaker 3>different children. Now, Like the crazy thing about it is

1561
01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:10.640
<v Speaker 3>when it's mentioned in the Bible that about him having

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01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:14.199
<v Speaker 3>six different wives of six different children, it doesn't say

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01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:17.039
<v Speaker 3>that God didn't you know, God didn't approve of that.

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01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:19.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that God does approve of it, but

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01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:22.399
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of to me. I would think that David

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01:18:22.439 --> 01:18:25.039
<v Speaker 3>having six different wives, with six different six different children,

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01:18:25.159 --> 01:18:26.880
<v Speaker 3>six different wives, that it would say right there that

1568
01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:29.239
<v Speaker 3>God didn't approve of it. But it does talk about

1569
01:18:29.279 --> 01:18:32.560
<v Speaker 3>when when David does go to Bathsheba. When he does that,

1570
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:36.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, obviously God, it says that God was displeased

1571
01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:39.000
<v Speaker 3>that hurt God. You know that he did that. So

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01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:42.560
<v Speaker 3>he's taken a married man's wife and and and all that.

1573
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:44.439
<v Speaker 3>But there's a whole struggle that he goes through. I

1574
01:18:44.439 --> 01:18:46.439
<v Speaker 3>don't want to give you any spoiler alerts because I

1575
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:47.920
<v Speaker 3>know you're probably gonna listen to the show kind of

1576
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:49.399
<v Speaker 3>this on Sunday.

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01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wait, but I'm waiting to watch I'm waiting to

1578
01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:53.840
<v Speaker 2>watch the show until we finish, so.

1579
01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, it's interesting. So it's just God,

1580
01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:01.560
<v Speaker 3>it says that that displeased God. And also, guys, we

1581
01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:04.399
<v Speaker 3>got to understand that the Israelites when they chose to

1582
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:07.720
<v Speaker 3>have a human king, God also says to Samuel because

1583
01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Samuel is kind of disappointed that they're not not choosing you, Samuel,

1584
01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:15.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, they're not choosing me, and and it disappointed

1585
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:17.840
<v Speaker 3>God that the fact that they choose a human king.

1586
01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:20.600
<v Speaker 3>And then God also tells them exactly what's going to

1587
01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:23.279
<v Speaker 3>happen by having a human king, and they still chose

1588
01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:26.000
<v Speaker 3>to have a human king. So they chose instead of

1589
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.279
<v Speaker 3>having God because they have to have their ps and

1590
01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:30.199
<v Speaker 3>q's in order, they have to have their priests in order,

1591
01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:31.720
<v Speaker 3>and they have to have all these things in order.

1592
01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:33.439
<v Speaker 3>Now they're just like, you know what, we want a

1593
01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:36.600
<v Speaker 3>human king, just like the raphaim and just like these

1594
01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:39.199
<v Speaker 3>other tribes, and they still chose to have it. So

1595
01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:43.039
<v Speaker 3>I think that whole Uh, that's that's what I talk about. About. People.

1596
01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:45.000
<v Speaker 3>We got to understand people that the old Testament is

1597
01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:47.119
<v Speaker 3>a foundation. You have to read the Old Testament to

1598
01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:49.000
<v Speaker 3>understand the New and for you to be able to

1599
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:51.119
<v Speaker 3>appreciate Jesus in the first place and what he did.

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01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:53.439
<v Speaker 3>So I think it's vastly important. I think Justin would

1601
01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:56.520
<v Speaker 3>agree that that people read the Old Testament and the

1602
01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:59.199
<v Speaker 3>New Testament and that way they understand everything instead of

1603
01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:01.960
<v Speaker 3>just conscrain much on the New Testament. It's it's you'll

1604
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:02.439
<v Speaker 3>know both.

1605
01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:06.840
<v Speaker 2>So, guys, we're coming up on ten minutes left here,

1606
01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:10.960
<v Speaker 2>and I before Justin, did you want to piggyback off

1607
01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:11.279
<v Speaker 2>of that?

1608
01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh? No, I mean I couldn't say anything different than

1609
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:19.359
<v Speaker 1>what Josh said. This maybe in some country bumpkin terminology,

1610
01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:20.319
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I agree.

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01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:25.399
<v Speaker 2>All right, cool, Well with the last ten minutes before

1612
01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I let you guys plug, I wanted to just jump

1613
01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:32.600
<v Speaker 2>into fantastical really quick. Man. Justin you wrote you wrote

1614
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:37.319
<v Speaker 2>the epic of Esau and Bigfoots in the Bible, and

1615
01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Josh you've been on so many shows using verses to

1616
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:46.520
<v Speaker 2>prove flat Earth, which is amazing. So these are both

1617
01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:53.319
<v Speaker 2>fantastical things. Is there anything else, like, Justin, is there

1618
01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:56.760
<v Speaker 2>another cryptic that you believe is in the Bible? Talked

1619
01:20:56.800 --> 01:20:58.800
<v Speaker 2>about anything like that.

1620
01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Just oh yeah, I mean there's so many. There's so many.

1621
01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>You got the line faced men of Moab, you have,

1622
01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:11.359
<v Speaker 1>you have vampire allusions to vampires, because I talk about

1623
01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it in the book the Amalekites. They were known sorcerers

1624
01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and shape shifters, and their name, the etymology of their

1625
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:23.720
<v Speaker 1>name means the blood liquors. So you have all kinds

1626
01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:29.479
<v Speaker 1>of references to witches, to dog men, line face men, sasquatches,

1627
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:34.640
<v Speaker 1>which is vampires. Man, this book is better than any

1628
01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Marvel comic book ever. And if people will just dive

1629
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:43.560
<v Speaker 1>into the original meanings, the original language and words and terminologies,

1630
01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.840
<v Speaker 1>read some of these extra biblical books that people are

1631
01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>so afraid of. It gives a lot of historical contexts

1632
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:52.359
<v Speaker 1>and beliefs of the people at the time. It helps

1633
01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you better understand this awesomely supernatural book.

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01:21:58.760 --> 01:21:59.520
<v Speaker 4>Yes it is.

1635
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:02.760
<v Speaker 2>It is so so cool, man, And I wish that

1636
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:07.720
<v Speaker 2>it was taught better in churches, because there is nothing

1637
01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:10.239
<v Speaker 2>more boring to a kid than having to go and

1638
01:22:10.279 --> 01:22:14.079
<v Speaker 2>sit through these things in church. And if they would

1639
01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:17.520
<v Speaker 2>make it as interesting as it really is, then I

1640
01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:18.319
<v Speaker 2>mean we.

1641
01:22:18.319 --> 01:22:20.720
<v Speaker 4>Could have so many more Christians on board.

1642
01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:25.119
<v Speaker 3>I think. I think what happens is they a lot

1643
01:22:25.119 --> 01:22:28.359
<v Speaker 3>of churches and a lot of mainstream people will they

1644
01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:31.000
<v Speaker 3>compromise to not go against what science says. So they

1645
01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:33.680
<v Speaker 3>don't want to bring certain things up because the audience

1646
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:36.199
<v Speaker 3>might not want to come back the next week. And

1647
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:38.439
<v Speaker 3>it's about keeping the butts in the seat. But they

1648
01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:40.439
<v Speaker 3>don't understand that if they brought it alive like some

1649
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:43.000
<v Speaker 3>like Justin's book, and and like some people when they

1650
01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:45.359
<v Speaker 3>teach the Word of God they bring it alive. The

1651
01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:47.880
<v Speaker 3>reason why it brings it alive because it's truth, you know.

1652
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:50.600
<v Speaker 3>And when you talk about the nepheline in the Bible,

1653
01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:53.279
<v Speaker 3>and you talk about, you know, biblical cosmology, it's basically

1654
01:22:53.319 --> 01:22:55.920
<v Speaker 3>taking the word for what it is, you know, and

1655
01:22:55.760 --> 01:22:58.119
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's word for word. And Justin when he's

1656
01:22:58.159 --> 01:23:00.479
<v Speaker 3>talking about Esau, I don't know if you remember Catalyst,

1657
01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:03.199
<v Speaker 3>when I was when I was going over that in Genesis,

1658
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:07.520
<v Speaker 3>I I was, I was kind of like, look at

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<v Speaker 3>how he's described, you know, he's not He's described that

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01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:14.119
<v Speaker 3>way for a reason. Now is it? Is it full

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<v Speaker 3>on bigfoot in the Bible the way Justin says. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very open to that but it is something if

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01:23:19.720 --> 01:23:22.039
<v Speaker 3>you just read it just word for word, that is,

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01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:24.560
<v Speaker 3>there's a reason why it was described like that, and

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01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:28.880
<v Speaker 3>there's a reason why that that you know that that

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01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:32.359
<v Speaker 3>Abraham didn't want Isaac to marry anybody that are Canaanknites,

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01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:34.159
<v Speaker 3>and he sent him forty or fifty miles away to

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01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:36.720
<v Speaker 3>go back to Mesopotanea to have somebody that was from

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01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:39.279
<v Speaker 3>his tribe, Abraham's tribe. And then he does the same

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01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:41.399
<v Speaker 3>thing with Jacob. He sends him back to you know,

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01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:45.319
<v Speaker 3>to get Leah and and Rebecca right, So you're seeing

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01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:48.199
<v Speaker 3>that there was something going on around them, the Canaanites,

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01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:50.439
<v Speaker 3>that they wanted to stay away from. And then, just

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01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:52.520
<v Speaker 3>as Justin probably brings up in his book, you saw

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01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:55.479
<v Speaker 3>Esau how he married a whole right, which is like

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01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:57.680
<v Speaker 3>a part of the giant tribes, and he was able

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01:23:57.720 --> 01:23:59.319
<v Speaker 3>to do that. So there's things in the Bible that

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01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:02.640
<v Speaker 3>it's to make the Bible come alive. But you have

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01:24:02.720 --> 01:24:05.800
<v Speaker 3>to understand Genesis sixpert to come alive, right, And then

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01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:10.000
<v Speaker 3>you see when God gets involved in the Old Testament.

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01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:13.520
<v Speaker 3>In Genesis, he's getting involved usually when it's depending when

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01:24:13.520 --> 01:24:17.119
<v Speaker 3>it's something that's gonna catastrophically change the world, or when

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01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:21.680
<v Speaker 3>the Raphaem or the Nephilim are involved. Even in Joshua ten,

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01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:24.039
<v Speaker 3>when he stops the moon and the sun from moving,

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01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:27.399
<v Speaker 3>it's because they're fighting against the Amorites. And if you

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01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:31.000
<v Speaker 3>look at the Four King Five King war after that war,

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01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:33.159
<v Speaker 3>it says at the very end that God is not

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01:24:33.279 --> 01:24:36.279
<v Speaker 3>through with the Amorites. Right, So you're seeing these things

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01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:38.199
<v Speaker 3>that it comes alive to you all the way through

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01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:41.239
<v Speaker 3>the book of Genesis and all the way through Deuteronomy, Exodus.

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01:24:41.279 --> 01:24:43.920
<v Speaker 3>All these different things come alive to you when you

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01:24:44.039 --> 01:24:46.680
<v Speaker 3>understand that narrative. And I'm not saying that's the most

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01:24:46.680 --> 01:24:50.159
<v Speaker 3>important narrative to understand. All I'm saying is if pastors

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01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:52.800
<v Speaker 3>and churches would kind of hit on that and understand

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01:24:52.840 --> 01:24:56.039
<v Speaker 3>it more than what they gets hot about, you know

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01:24:56.079 --> 01:24:59.239
<v Speaker 3>it being that you know Seth and Cain night view,

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01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:02.640
<v Speaker 3>then they would bring the Bible alive more and I

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01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:05.520
<v Speaker 3>think it would bring more people into the church. And

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01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:07.680
<v Speaker 3>also it brings out a lot more points when you're

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01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:11.520
<v Speaker 3>for people to understand why the flood happened, why God

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01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:13.279
<v Speaker 3>is going to kill all the men, women and children

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01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:16.039
<v Speaker 3>with these certain tribes and It also gives you a

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01:25:16.079 --> 01:25:18.920
<v Speaker 3>better argument than against atheists when they try to say,

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01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:21.399
<v Speaker 3>you see your God, He's not graceful like he says

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01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:23.680
<v Speaker 3>in the New Testament. You know, it's it's you hot

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01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:26.000
<v Speaker 3>to understand the whole entire story. So that would be

1707
01:25:26.439 --> 01:25:29.760
<v Speaker 3>very important for people to understand and for pastors to understand.

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01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:33.680
<v Speaker 3>And that's why people buy Justin's book because he's explaining

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01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:35.600
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that and he has understanding of that. And

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01:25:35.640 --> 01:25:38.000
<v Speaker 3>that's why people are interested in this stuff because it

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01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:40.479
<v Speaker 3>is truth and it really brings the Bible of life.

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01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>So and you can use it as bait, you know

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01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. That's what I try to do. I

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01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:47.399
<v Speaker 1>try to have these interesting conversations that are true, but

1715
01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>they're also exciting, and it gets people in the door.

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01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:53.039
<v Speaker 1>And once you get them in the door, then you

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01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>can hit them with the Holy Spirit and the real truth.

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01:25:57.079 --> 01:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>You know. I love being from End of the World News.

1719
01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Me and him has recently become friends, and I love

1720
01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:06.239
<v Speaker 1>how he talks about his ministry. He says, Ah, he said,

1721
01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:10.199
<v Speaker 1>I have an uber ministry, he said, besides my podcast,

1722
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:12.039
<v Speaker 1>he said, And I tell people that I like to

1723
01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>black peel my people. But then I'll let them wash

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01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it down with the class of the Holy Spirit.

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01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:20.760
<v Speaker 3>I like it.

1726
01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:22.119
<v Speaker 4>I love it, guys.

1727
01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you let everybody know where they can find

1728
01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:24.840
<v Speaker 2>your amazing work?

1729
01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:29.079
<v Speaker 4>Justin Josh go ahead?

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01:26:29.279 --> 01:26:31.159
<v Speaker 3>All right, right, sorry, since I was up the writing

1731
01:26:31.279 --> 01:26:33.479
<v Speaker 3>or who you can choose me. So my show is

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01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:37.199
<v Speaker 3>Josh Monday Christian Conspiracy Podcast. My YouTube is Josh Monday

1733
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Music and Podcast. I have music that I did from

1734
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:43.279
<v Speaker 3>six years ago on there and also my show and

1735
01:26:43.319 --> 01:26:45.159
<v Speaker 3>then on Cold the Conspiracy.

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01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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01:26:46.119 --> 01:26:47.960
<v Speaker 3>If you go to that, you're gonna hear Sunday Service,

1738
01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Wednesday Service. Shout out to Jonathan Jacob. Really appreciate them

1739
01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:53.359
<v Speaker 3>having me on there. And yeah, you'll get a Bible study,

1740
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:57.720
<v Speaker 3>verse by verse study on every single week. You know,

1741
01:26:58.079 --> 01:27:00.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm very consistent on that. But yeah, definitely. And then

1742
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I have a pictureon as well, Josh Wenday Christian Conspiracy Podcast.

1743
01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:05.520
<v Speaker 3>If you guys are interested in that. I'm not trying

1744
01:27:05.520 --> 01:27:07.840
<v Speaker 3>to take anybody from anybody else's picture on. I just

1745
01:27:07.960 --> 01:27:10.319
<v Speaker 3>have that author just in case, but go ahead.

1746
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and same thing with me, guys. Just search up

1747
01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Prometheus Lins podcast anywhere you can consume content, YouTube, Spotify, Apple,

1748
01:27:19.239 --> 01:27:22.199
<v Speaker 1>all those fine establishments. Same thing with the social media

1749
01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>is just type in Prometheus Lens Podcast. Got a newly

1750
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:31.079
<v Speaker 1>renovated website Prometheus Lens podcast dot com. My buddy Kyle

1751
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>give it a facelift, and got a newsletter, calendar, videos,

1752
01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>and audio. It's really nice. He did a real good job.

1753
01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But if you go there, you sign up for the

1754
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:44.079
<v Speaker 1>newsletter and you get I'm trying to think, you get

1755
01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a thirty day ad free listening experience through super Cast,

1756
01:27:48.479 --> 01:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and you also get I think the first three chapters

1757
01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:54.159
<v Speaker 1>of my book. So go check that out. Sign up

1758
01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:55.279
<v Speaker 1>for the newsletter, guys.

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01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:56.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, heck y'all.

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01:27:56.560 --> 01:27:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And if you guys are lazy and don't want to

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01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>type that out, go ahead and scroll down right now.

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01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:04.640
<v Speaker 2>And while you're giving the show a five star and

1763
01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:07.279
<v Speaker 2>leaving a comment, it could be good or bad. Just

1764
01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:09.319
<v Speaker 2>leave a comment and let me know what you guys thought.

1765
01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>But if you see everything Josh Monday right there, and

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01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>you will go ahead and click on that, and all

1767
01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:17.439
<v Speaker 2>the links to find him are right there. Also the

1768
01:28:17.479 --> 01:28:19.520
<v Speaker 2>same thing with Doc Brown, it's going to say everything

1769
01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Prometheus Lens. Go ahead and click on all of those,

1770
01:28:22.880 --> 01:28:25.319
<v Speaker 2>give them a follow, go ahead and support those guys,

1771
01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:29.039
<v Speaker 2>and if you're not already, listen twice a week along

1772
01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>with Josh Monday and get caught up and versed in

1773
01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:35.239
<v Speaker 2>the Bible, because guys, like I thought I knew everything,

1774
01:28:35.279 --> 01:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and trust me, I know absolutely nothing. Because listening to

1775
01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>people is way different than listening to and reading along

1776
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:46.399
<v Speaker 2>word for word what is actually written. It changes everything

1777
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:49.840
<v Speaker 2>and as a conspiracy theorist, it opens your eyes up

1778
01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and you start to understand things a lot better. And

1779
01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I thank you guys so much for coming on the show.

1780
01:28:56.239 --> 01:28:58.800
<v Speaker 2>It's always fun talking with both of you. Justin I'll

1781
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:01.560
<v Speaker 2>be talking to you tomorrow. And with that being said,

1782
01:29:01.560 --> 01:29:04.479
<v Speaker 2>everybody keep digging down those rabbit holes.
