Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast Network.
Speaker 2: Hello there, and welcome back.
Speaker 1: What is this place as connected disconnected? It's connected, disconnected.
Speaker 2: Disconnected, disconnected, disconnected, disconnecting.
Speaker 1: Disconnected, disconnected, disconnected, disconnected, disconnected, disconnected.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to feel disconnected the number been disconnected. Hello there,
Speaker 2: and welcome to another Thursday this week live with one
Speaker 2: of my inspirations in this industry, mister Justin Beam.
Speaker 1: Hi, ah, thank you, I appreciate that. How did you
Speaker 1: track down all those lines from the different films? Were
Speaker 1: you like trolling scripts and control effing or what were
Speaker 1: you doing? How did you do that?
Speaker 2: I will share an insider secret with you after Yeah, please,
Speaker 2: I got it down. But I mean that. I mean
Speaker 2: everything that you've done through Reverend over the years has
Speaker 2: always been amazing to see important and when I started
Speaker 2: doing a lot of this, look to your success as
Speaker 2: somebody that I could try to emulate. So thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's huge. Thank you. I'm honored. I'm
Speaker 1: sincerely honored. Thank you.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people stoked to see tonight. I
Speaker 2: don't always get a ton of messages, but today I
Speaker 2: got at least I think three or four from people.
Speaker 2: Just dude, you got justin on tonight. This is gonna
Speaker 2: be amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you everybody for tuning in. Whoever is out
Speaker 1: there watching, thank you so much, and thanks again for
Speaker 1: having me on. Man appreciate it, of course.
Speaker 2: I mean we were just talking about it's been over
Speaker 2: like almost exactly two and a half years since the
Speaker 2: last time you did anything with the show, and that
Speaker 2: feels far too long.
Speaker 1: It really does. Yeah, I mean, I love from afar
Speaker 1: admiring all that you're doing, and as I've acknowledged in
Speaker 1: the past, and so I love how you've been helping
Speaker 1: out the Terror Vision guys, getting Ryan and Brad are
Speaker 1: putting so much love into what they're doing over there,
Speaker 1: and it's been a tremendous period of growth for them
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. I love your live
Speaker 1: streams with them, and it's this great kind of like
Speaker 1: polar opposites with Brad on one side of the screen
Speaker 1: and then Ryan on the other, and Brad's always like
Speaker 1: fired up and singing and stuff, and then Ryan's sitting
Speaker 1: over there like and then you're in the middle, kind
Speaker 1: of like threading the needle between the two of them.
Speaker 1: And you do a great job with.
Speaker 2: That stuff or orchestrating them as a man. It's a
Speaker 2: tough some time.
Speaker 1: Well, but it's exciting for what people are getting out
Speaker 1: of all of that is really it's like a real
Speaker 1: time presentation of the birth of a label. It's not
Speaker 1: Ryan's record. Label's been around forever and he's just done
Speaker 1: a tremendous job with that. But yeah, you're seeing a
Speaker 1: video distribution company come together like before your eyes, and
Speaker 1: I think it's just so awesome. I love it. So
Speaker 1: that's kind.
Speaker 2: Of crazy how they're growing, like released to release and
Speaker 2: seeing stuff, you know, for a company that was like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, they got Video Violence a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago, and now it's, oh, they got Student Bodies
Speaker 2: four K from Paramount, Like this is a big deal. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's just the beginning. I mean, even back
Speaker 1: when I was helping them out, the list of things
Speaker 1: that they have in hand is absolutely mind boggling. So
Speaker 1: kudos to them and also exciting. Not to make this
Speaker 1: a whole terror Vision love fest here, but kudos to
Speaker 1: It's exciting that Ryan has his own record press. Now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you guys were talking about the custom pressings, and
Speaker 1: all that. I was like, oh, because that's when I
Speaker 1: was working on my record, and I'm thinking, how cool
Speaker 1: would that have been to have something as someone who's
Speaker 1: buying the music completely customizable like that. I think it's great.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, Jake is he wants to talk
Speaker 2: about your album. You've had a ton of stuff happened
Speaker 2: this year. We'll get to the book, we'll get to
Speaker 2: more of the special features, but tell everybody about the
Speaker 2: album because I've listened to it multiple times and it's
Speaker 2: quite enjoyable.
Speaker 1: So thank you.
Speaker 2: I hope people check it out. Linking the description before
Speaker 2: he starts talking about.
Speaker 1: It, it's it was the most unexpected thing Ryan. There
Speaker 1: was no plan in place for it at all. And
Speaker 1: I've always been a drummer all my life, and that's
Speaker 1: not to minimize drumming at all or drummers at all,
Speaker 1: but that's definitely where my heart is rooted. And that's
Speaker 1: going back to when I was little in the Drumma
Speaker 1: Google Corps in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The Emerald Knights. Shout
Speaker 1: out to any EK alumni out there. When I was
Speaker 1: this little kid carrying symbols around that were like half
Speaker 1: the size of my body anyway, Drumming has always been
Speaker 1: my thing, but I've always loved guitarists. I've always had
Speaker 1: a real ear and passion for great guitarists. I'm like
Speaker 1: a tone junkie, and so I've been paying attention to
Speaker 1: that stuff over the years. And I worked in music
Speaker 1: retail where I was able to hand someone a guitar
Speaker 1: and not show them anything. I could sell drums a
Speaker 1: little better than guitars, as my friend Josh Luce will attest,
Speaker 1: who worked with me for many of those years. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this summer, or you know, earlier this year, a friend
Speaker 1: of mine gave John Stalter gave me a guitar. It
Speaker 1: was something that he had. He was wanting to downsize
Speaker 1: his collection a little bit, and he had a couple
Speaker 1: of the Kurt Cobain Fender Jag Stayings, which is a
Speaker 1: guitar that Kurt designed. And John wrote to me one
Speaker 1: day and said, hey, I I'm downsizing. And I always
Speaker 1: said to myself, if this guitar ever had to go anywhere,
Speaker 1: I wanted it to go to you. Oh yeah, how
Speaker 1: sweet is that? And so next thing you know, I'm
Speaker 1: driving over there and picking up the guitar. And then
Speaker 1: I and he lent me a little practice amp and
Speaker 1: a chord and I had my headphones and came home
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, like in Dazed and
Speaker 1: Confused where the kid lays down in his bed puts
Speaker 1: his headphones on. But it was me with this guitar,
Speaker 1: just noodling around and if I started doing this, and
Speaker 1: I decided to experiment with recording. You know, I'm dealing
Speaker 1: with recording and film editing stuff all the time, so
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, let's plug this in. And then I
Speaker 1: started making songs and then eventually had enough to do
Speaker 1: something with. And it really is through the support of
Speaker 1: my friends everybody around me who just cheering me on
Speaker 1: throughout the whole thing, helping me feel validated in it,
Speaker 1: despite my self consciousness, which is near crippling when it
Speaker 1: comes to this same man, I just can't say enough.
Speaker 1: And on the liner notes for the album, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of I mean, all the people who were
Speaker 1: really like instrumental and pun intended in this whole thing
Speaker 1: coming together and then teaming up with wax Work on
Speaker 1: the vinyl was a dream come true. I mean, oh
Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, I mean, well, they're masters at their game.
Speaker 1: They know what they're doing, and people really love them
Speaker 1: and their work. And I knew the music was very
Speaker 1: weird when people ask how and when I sent a
Speaker 1: few songs to friends early on, they'd be like, what
Speaker 1: is this? Help me understand what you're doing here? So anyway,
Speaker 1: I wanted to instill some kind of confidence in people,
Speaker 1: and I thought that teaming up with a label like that,
Speaker 1: an established label that's famous for the quality of their pressings,
Speaker 1: will probably be the most direct route to that, and
Speaker 1: I found I mean, they were open to the idea,
Speaker 1: and working with them was a dream. And at a
Speaker 1: time when everyone's vinyls delayed, it seems like every new release,
Speaker 1: John Five's album came out the same day as mine,
Speaker 1: which is an insane thing to say. But what but
Speaker 1: he's amazing and shouldn't be playing with Motley Crue by
Speaker 1: the way, that's kind of like it's kind of like
Speaker 1: putting I don't know me and Trans Siberian Orchestra or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a really bad analogy. That was
Speaker 1: the worst analogy. I'm not sure that it was. That
Speaker 1: was kind of a mess. But anyway, it's a shame.
Speaker 1: He needs to be with Rob. He needs to be
Speaker 1: back with Rob Zombie. And that's the hell I'm going
Speaker 1: to die on here regarding John five today. But anyway,
Speaker 1: to the point, he announced his new album is delayed
Speaker 1: because of pressing stuff and with wax work. They gave
Speaker 1: me an estimated delivery date of like October eighth. I
Speaker 1: had it a full month early.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you beat that by a lot.
Speaker 1: Huge amount of time. And then I'm like, do I
Speaker 1: sit on these? I'm like, no, people, anyone who pre
Speaker 1: ordered was getting them right away. So as soon as
Speaker 1: the order came in, and it's still the case. If
Speaker 1: someone orders one of these from me, I'm literally taping
Speaker 1: up the box, putting the stuff in there, and then
Speaker 1: driving into the post office. If not the same day,
Speaker 1: it'll be the next morning. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a process I've come to love actually, because it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that I'm grateful. I'm really grateful, and I
Speaker 1: loved all the steps in getting it out there and
Speaker 1: into people's hands.
Speaker 2: So all of that, and he hasn't even said the
Speaker 2: name of the album. Phantom like Keeper check it out
Speaker 2: link is in the description below. He's terrible at self promotion,
Speaker 2: just like me. But he deserves he deserves the kudos.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, man, thank you.
Speaker 2: But I mean, on that note, that's not even all
Speaker 2: you've done this year. Tell everybody about the book, because
Speaker 2: that was out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy. So I've had this column with
Speaker 1: TV Guide's Remind magazine for a while. It's their entertainment
Speaker 1: nostalgia magazine. People might remember. A couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what year it was, maybe like three
Speaker 1: four years ago or something. They brought Remind, brought me
Speaker 1: in as the guest editor of their October issue, and
Speaker 1: I turned it into this Halloween franchise like love Fest
Speaker 1: and got a ton of great interviews, brought some fans
Speaker 1: tastic writers into the fold on it. It turned out great.
Speaker 1: Every subscriber to the magazine hated it, and I was
Speaker 1: hearing from them on it. They're like, so some subscribers
Speaker 1: aren't real thrilled because it shows I wish I had
Speaker 1: it sitting next to me, had I planned better the cover.
Speaker 1: This is a magazine that features like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Eric Estrata on the cover every month and it's all
Speaker 1: vintage TV and good time stuff, and then this issue
Speaker 1: shows up. The cover is just stark black with Michael
Speaker 1: Meyer's mask front and center and almost no text, none
Speaker 1: of the usual. I'm pretty sure that a lot of
Speaker 1: the readers were just with pitchforks and torches, you know,
Speaker 1: when they saw that. But anyway, the horror fans loved it,
Speaker 1: and we did a cool signing at Dark Delicacies and
Speaker 1: it began a great relationship with them. And the next
Speaker 1: year I pitched a monsters theme because Rob Zombies Monsters
Speaker 1: was coming out, and so I talked to Rob about it,
Speaker 1: and he's like, Yo, let's do something, and so we
Speaker 1: did new interviews and behind the scenes things on that,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, I love working with his
Speaker 1: team because I'm all about like working with people I
Speaker 1: care about. If I find a place where I feel
Speaker 1: safe and good and where I am morally compatible with
Speaker 1: the people i'm working with, I'm just like I need
Speaker 1: to be here, I need to stay here. And that
Speaker 1: was the case with her mind, and so I pitched
Speaker 1: them an idea for a column every month that had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with what they're scared The paunch fans, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is he doing now? He does a parade? I
Speaker 1: think he does that Hollywood Parade something like yeah, But anyway,
Speaker 1: I pitched them on a column about shuttered roadside attractions,
Speaker 1: amusement parks, you know, those kind of like tourist trap
Speaker 1: places that are along the route when you're taking a vacation.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to focus on the ones that had
Speaker 1: come and gone from the past. And so every month
Speaker 1: since then, I've been doing this column and loving it.
Speaker 1: The research is so fascinating, and I've discovered some of
Speaker 1: the weirdest, most wonderful people, weirdest places, wonderful people. And
Speaker 1: the real exciting part for me with that column is
Speaker 1: that it's spotlighting people who came up with the crazy
Speaker 1: idea and then just insisted that it become a reality,
Speaker 1: Like stop at nothing to make this amusement park where
Speaker 1: there's alligators wandering around free, and let's make postcards where
Speaker 1: children are riding on the backs of the alligators. And
Speaker 1: then let's actually let the kids ride on the alligators.
Speaker 1: Like this is one of This was real, and it
Speaker 1: was in Los Angeles. It's just one of many. But
Speaker 1: I've really delighted in that. And the book is a
Speaker 1: compilation of the first i think twenty seven months of
Speaker 1: columns with some expanded information on each one of the
Speaker 1: parks or attractions in there, and put it together pretty quickly,
Speaker 1: and frankly it was I haven't talked much about this,
Speaker 1: but I can maybe plant a little seed here that
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, there was a book series
Speaker 1: that I was obsessed with. I checked them out from
Speaker 1: the library so many times that the librarians would end
Speaker 1: up holding them for me when they got returned by
Speaker 1: other kids. So the next because I was there all
Speaker 1: the time. I'm sure my brother Mitch is watching this
Speaker 1: and he can testify to this. I mean, we're always
Speaker 1: riding our bikes to the library, and I was obsessed
Speaker 1: with these books. And then in they're called the Crestwood
Speaker 1: House Monster Series. Now, Crestwood House made many books on
Speaker 1: lots of different topics. I really admire their mission statement
Speaker 1: of creating accessible books for readers of all levels, aimed
Speaker 1: at younger readers, but not shooting too high with the
Speaker 1: vocabulary and references, but also not dumbing it down to
Speaker 1: the point where it's boring. For so they did a
Speaker 1: magnificent job of that, and they I have so many
Speaker 1: of their books. I have all the monster stuff from
Speaker 1: all their different Monster runs. In addition to their cryptozoology,
Speaker 1: they did books on things like skiing, like what is
Speaker 1: a Cow? And onto profiles of Ernie Banks and whoever else.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a really diverse, exciting brand, and
Speaker 1: I've always been obsessed with them and spent my life
Speaker 1: accumulating them at different thrift shops and antique stores, book
Speaker 1: sales and libraries and stuff, because they were only available
Speaker 1: to libraries, and so the ones you find out there, again,
Speaker 1: I wish I had them next to me here, But
Speaker 1: it's great because they sort of tell their own story
Speaker 1: because they're tattered, they're worn. They have the cards in
Speaker 1: the pocket in the back with the names of the
Speaker 1: kids and the date that they had to have them returned,
Speaker 1: and I just treasure that stuff. And so there's a
Speaker 1: unique bond that many people my age have to this
Speaker 1: book series, and that ultimately the publishing company Crestwood House,
Speaker 1: and a couple of years ago I started working with
Speaker 1: my lawyer. My entertainment lawyer is Shelley Larry Zerner from
Speaker 1: Friday the Thirteenth, Part three. He's always been so wonderful
Speaker 1: to me, and I hit him up one day with
Speaker 1: the idea, can we see if this is doable. Can
Speaker 1: we track what's going on? Because Crestwood had been silent
Speaker 1: for a very long time, many years, and we ended
Speaker 1: up long story long, we ended up working it out,
Speaker 1: secured the trademark, and question what is coming back. But
Speaker 1: there was a deadline for having to have something on
Speaker 1: the market. You have to have a physical product on
Speaker 1: the market available outside your home state, YadA YadA YadA,
Speaker 1: proof of sale. And I had already filed two et
Speaker 1: extensions on that to hold onto it. And he reached
Speaker 1: out to me in January, yeah, I think it was January,
Speaker 1: and he said that the deadline was coming up again
Speaker 1: for the extension. He's like, do you just want me
Speaker 1: to file it? And I was like, no, let me
Speaker 1: see if I can do something. But and he goes,
Speaker 1: come on, because it was the part I forgot. This
Speaker 1: is like January ten three telling me this. He's like,
Speaker 1: you have until February fifteenth, oh geez. And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: let's see if we can do it. He's like whookerl
Speaker 1: like I'll be expecting your email about the extension and
Speaker 1: three days prior. It was insane and so I reached
Speaker 1: my one of my best friends in the world, and
Speaker 1: the only real coworker I have is my friend Lenamaker,
Speaker 1: who lives in Farmer City, Illinois, where I used to
Speaker 1: work for the Illinois Valley Press, Farmer City Journal and
Speaker 1: some weekly papers there. Lynn is on teams with me
Speaker 1: all day. He's also my guiding light when it comes
Speaker 1: to like layout stuff, Photoshop tricks. He does graphic design
Speaker 1: for a bunch of projects that I do. He's like
Speaker 1: the angel that floats over me. One hundred percent is Lynn.
Speaker 1: I owe all my friends so much. Lynn is a
Speaker 1: very unique entity in my world that I'm eternally grateful for.
Speaker 1: But I wrote to him and I said, what do
Speaker 1: you think? And he's like, you can do this. He's like,
Speaker 1: let me know how I can help. And I had
Speaker 1: never laid out a book before. I had never heard
Speaker 1: any of this, And so with Lynn's guidance, with his help,
Speaker 1: I was able to get this thing delivered and done
Speaker 1: like two days, maybe it was one or two days
Speaker 1: prior to the deadline. And I sent Larry the email
Speaker 1: with a screenshot of the confirmation of the sale, like
Speaker 1: the first sales and the ISBN information and all that,
Speaker 1: and so the purpose of telling that whole story is
Speaker 1: that that book this year was to secure or solidify
Speaker 1: for me the Crestwood House trademark in trade. So now
Speaker 1: starting next year is a whole new focus and there's
Speaker 1: going to be many more exciting things to come on
Speaker 1: here and talk to you about and not wait two
Speaker 1: and a half years to do so. Relating to that,
Speaker 1: but it's one of my greatest, one of my greatest
Speaker 1: thrills in life because I loved those books so much.
Speaker 1: I just I just adore them, and I'm excited to
Speaker 1: do a lot of crazy stuff with that brand again
Speaker 1: and give people that nostalgic return to their youth in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: And you're bearing that torch to a whole new generation.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, Yeah, obviously you have done so much
Speaker 2: for physical media, So tonight after all of the announcements,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be discussing special features, how they get made,
Speaker 2: some of your most exciting ones. The last couple of years,
Speaker 2: you've had some crazy things like freaking Nicholas Cage, Like,
Speaker 2: we have so much to discuss.
Speaker 1: The story there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so hang out after the announcements tonight, but let's
Speaker 2: get into some of our usual stuff collecting physical media
Speaker 2: obviously you're contributing to it. Are you buying much anymore?
Speaker 2: Are you picking up a lot of new things? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I still get things once in a while. I'm super
Speaker 1: busy and so I try to stay up on it,
Speaker 1: but I'm not as current as I used to be,
Speaker 1: where I was always like waiting for release day for
Speaker 1: this and that. There are some things that I'll always
Speaker 1: be on top of, but really not as much as
Speaker 1: I used to. But there I have picked up a
Speaker 1: few things. You had mentioned prior to our discussion that
Speaker 1: we were going to share some of our new pickups,
Speaker 1: and so I do have a few at hand here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see what do you got? What's been importantly well?
Speaker 1: The first one to continue the terror Vision love fest
Speaker 1: is the WNUF double bill, which I already had the
Speaker 1: first film, but this is in Walmart. And that's one
Speaker 1: of the great feats that terror Vision has managed over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years is getting this stuff on
Speaker 1: the shelves of Walmart. I'll never forget back when when
Speaker 1: I was growing up, Walmart insisted on censored covers. Remember
Speaker 1: that movies that they would like see.
Speaker 2: Not even that long ago. I mean Satanic Panic that
Speaker 2: came out like five or six years ago. They had
Speaker 2: to release in Walmart with a slipcover that said just
Speaker 2: the word panic. They could not use the word satanic
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious and now they're carrying like anyway, like but
Speaker 1: they got I think it was Mallam was the one
Speaker 1: that really surprised me when Terror Visions film Mallam landed
Speaker 1: in there. The cover of Mallam is like two evil
Speaker 1: eyes and then just a blood pentagram in the middle,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, how in what world I remember the
Speaker 1: poison like open up and say, ah tape not being
Speaker 1: able to have the tongue. Anybody remember that out there?
Speaker 1: Oh that kind of stuff is what used to happen.
Speaker 1: And now Walmart's like, well, let's put I spit on
Speaker 1: your grave in here, and we got a box set
Speaker 1: of it. But this tremendous. I love the WNUF films,
Speaker 1: especially the first one, some of my most treasured, treasured
Speaker 1: discoveries over the last few years. Here, it's absolutely awesome.
Speaker 1: Are we going to take turns? Or should I keep going?
Speaker 2: Go right ahead? Go right ahead?
Speaker 1: Second one is a pickup because I couldn't find my
Speaker 1: copy of it, and I've also lost there's like a
Speaker 1: box of stuff since I moved earlier this year that
Speaker 1: it's still missing and it's killing me. But I could
Speaker 1: not find my collection of Roseanne's Halloween specials.
Speaker 2: I never would have guessed that at all, what you
Speaker 2: were leading up to.
Speaker 1: That I'm missing so many CDs, I'm missing movies. I
Speaker 1: couldn't find my Garfield Halloween.
Speaker 2: Special but it's a great one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good. I can I know I have
Speaker 1: it somewhere, but I cannot locate it. But I could
Speaker 1: not find my Roseanne, and I was really wanted to
Speaker 1: get it. So I found a used copy of Roseanne.
Speaker 1: It's it says it's eight episodes, but it's stick with
Speaker 1: the first six or so. The last couple seasons of
Speaker 1: Roseanne were not exactly great, little understatement. And then Severn
Speaker 1: Beautiful Box, the Feeding Frenzy Box. This is a reverse
Speaker 1: on my camera, hopefully it's not. But six discs, three films,
Speaker 1: soundtrack CDs and this nice Christian the author of this.
Speaker 1: I was so blown away when this showed up. I
Speaker 1: instantly started flipping through the book before I put any
Speaker 1: of the discs in or anything. I opened it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go, there you go, I I love stuff
Speaker 1: like this. There's a great there's a great book. That's all.
Speaker 1: It's like, the complete Bigfoot Filmography is what it's called.
Speaker 1: And in each case when I and it's thorough, it
Speaker 1: covers everything TV episodes, reality stuff, documentaries, feature films, and
Speaker 1: what Christian did with this book is very, very similar,
Speaker 1: and so in both cases I reach out to the author.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love you and I love your work,
Speaker 1: and do you want to come do some stuff? And
Speaker 1: so I've actually been talking with Christian about teaming up
Speaker 1: on some things nice because this book is awesome. I
Speaker 1: mean it covers everything down to I mean, it's very
Speaker 1: thorough and gets into like the direct to two B
Speaker 1: type films that we're seeing a lot of now, like
Speaker 1: the CG stuff, which is appreciated because I'm always always
Speaker 1: been a junkie for Shark movies and say, mix the
Speaker 1: Italian stuff with it. And then this tremendous book that
Speaker 1: was an instant buy from several and so that's kind
Speaker 1: of recent pickups. They've been killing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's hard not to. Absolutely I got if
Speaker 2: you hear nothing super major, but stuff that I'm excited about.
Speaker 2: Def Crocodile put out a new release of their double
Speaker 2: feature of Signals and in the Dust of the Stars.
Speaker 2: This is one that they'd put up previously. They've been
Speaker 2: hard to find for a little while, and this is
Speaker 2: with one of their new slip covers. Really great animation
Speaker 2: stuff that they've been doing. Are you have you paid
Speaker 2: much attention to Deaf Crocodile.
Speaker 1: I haven't, no, no you, but you've mentioned that name
Speaker 1: to me before and I definitely need to dive in
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of hard because pretty much everything they
Speaker 2: put out nobody has heard of unless you're attending like
Speaker 2: Cinematech screenings all the time. So it's it's difficult. But
Speaker 2: I mean, Dennis Bartok knows everything under the sun about films,
Speaker 2: so it's it's gonna be film school and I love that.
Speaker 1: So well, That's what I love about what OCN and
Speaker 1: Vinegar are doing too, in the diversity of the lineup
Speaker 1: of films there, and that you can trust Deaf Crocodile
Speaker 1: and his perspective on film to guide you into new
Speaker 1: territory and more interesting movies you haven't heard of. You're
Speaker 1: going to show up for them and their guidance, right
Speaker 1: and that's what I think Justin's done with OCN in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, and a lot of those sub
Speaker 1: labels are now building their own very dedicated fan and
Speaker 1: so it's a wonderful incubator for that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: that no other label would pay attention to. I remember
Speaker 1: pitching stuff to some of the companies that I've worked
Speaker 1: with in the past, and they would just roll their
Speaker 1: eyes at me, like what, No, just no, you don't
Speaker 1: need to be asking us these questions anymore.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard that exact same sentence in
Speaker 2: the last couple of months. So yeah, uh, one thing,
Speaker 2: I'm super glad that Keno has taking a chance on
Speaker 2: more of the made for TV stuff. Yeah, so they're
Speaker 2: putting all the stuff dead a night. Just arrived literally
Speaker 2: today from Atomic Movie Store, very excited to see these.
Speaker 2: Of course, Amanda Rees is involved in a couple of
Speaker 2: the Dan Curtis things. She's always incredible.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's so good. And and they just announced
Speaker 1: there was another one that I just saw. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was just announced or maybe released, but
Speaker 1: there's two or three in that Dan Curtis series from them,
Speaker 1: and I want them all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got one that I love the movie. I'm very
Speaker 2: skeptical of how this four K is gonna look, but
Speaker 2: literally just got here like an hour and a half ago.
Speaker 2: Wolf Creek from Imprint in Australia. I'm sure you've seen
Speaker 2: Wolf Creek? Yeah, yeah, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 1: I like the original. I haven't seen the sequels, but yeah.
Speaker 2: I've never seen the sequels either. I've always wanted there's
Speaker 2: a TV show. I've never seen a second of the
Speaker 2: TV show yet. Literally, there's like a three season TV show.
Speaker 1: Three seasons. Well, how many more times are people going
Speaker 1: to wander into the desert and encounter this guy?
Speaker 2: What you think they've learned?
Speaker 1: It's not even a camp with forest around it, it's
Speaker 1: just right lanes of Australia. Anyway, I'm sure it's great.
Speaker 2: The last thing kind of semi related to you, because
Speaker 2: I thought it was really cool to see Bloody Disgusting
Speaker 2: run a piece on Phantom this year that wash. That
Speaker 2: was awesome, incredible to see them promoting you. I had
Speaker 2: no idea that Bloody Disgusting had teamed up to put
Speaker 2: out shorts on Blu Ray at all. And they've got
Speaker 2: this series called World of Death, and I saw somebody
Speaker 2: getting rid of these on Facebook, and so I picked
Speaker 2: up with the first four volumes traded in for these.
Speaker 2: These all have almost thirty or a little over thirty
Speaker 2: in some cases short films wow that have been online,
Speaker 2: and you can still pick these up from Bloody Disgusting
Speaker 2: right now they're BDRs. But I mean, how often do
Speaker 2: you get shorts on physical media that aren't just a
Speaker 2: bonus feature as of some director's work.
Speaker 1: I've been saying that for years. I go to these
Speaker 1: independent film festivals that I love, and I see, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's just this raw, unfiltered and un molested artistry
Speaker 1: and you're creating something out of your own pocket and
Speaker 1: when you're just I always compare these things to like
Speaker 1: the first album from a band. They are arriving in
Speaker 1: the studio with years of drive and just blood and
Speaker 1: sweat and whatever to get there, and that's something so
Speaker 1: pure that you cannot distill and that you cannot replicate.
Speaker 1: In Do Again and the world of independent film festivals. People,
Speaker 1: if you are, if you're jaded by what you're seeing
Speaker 1: on streaming in theaters, I will guarantee you that within
Speaker 1: driving distance is a film festival that is going to
Speaker 1: offer you nothing but fresh ideas. Not that it's all
Speaker 1: going to be great. I'm not saying that, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying like, if you're opening yourself up to experiencing
Speaker 1: something new, it's out there and this is the place
Speaker 1: to go. And the thing is, the filmmakers are hardly, ever, rarely,
Speaker 1: almost never getting anything right out of having these films.
Speaker 1: In fact, they're spending money. They're spending and that's what
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know is that to enter
Speaker 1: a lot of these festivals there's a fee and then
Speaker 1: they have to pay to travel to go attend. Not
Speaker 1: every festival brings you in and all that. So I mean,
Speaker 1: it's really a labor of love for these filmmakers and
Speaker 1: that's exciting. And I hope that they're licensed and cared
Speaker 1: for by Bloody on those sets. I think that's a
Speaker 1: tremendous idea and I hope they continue it.
Speaker 2: They have seven of them. I got to go get
Speaker 2: the next three off their site at some point. They're
Speaker 2: not super cheap, but for what they are, I think
Speaker 2: that's pretty fair. It's twenty five bucks each, so I
Speaker 2: got to look that up. Yeah, it's a pretty decent deal.
Speaker 2: You know you're talking about shorts. One of the big
Speaker 2: thing too that I've always appreciated about some of these
Speaker 2: fests is most of these directors, this is like their
Speaker 2: most honed work because they've been gearing up towards their
Speaker 2: first thing four or five years, so they've been polishing
Speaker 2: it like crazy, and they finally make a fifteen minute
Speaker 2: short and it's this massive work of art that they've
Speaker 2: been working on since they were nineteen and here it
Speaker 2: is finally in front of the world at twenty five
Speaker 2: or something. And now on their first feature, if they
Speaker 2: happen to get super lucky and can make it right
Speaker 2: after that, they only have eight months to make it
Speaker 2: or two weeks to make it, and it's not going
Speaker 2: to be anywhere near as polished or as fully thought
Speaker 2: out sometimes as that short can be.
Speaker 1: Well, they have no other cooks in the kitchen. There
Speaker 1: are cooks in the kitchen. But I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: producer wise, which is what interferes with a lot of
Speaker 1: director visions. Yep, when you're dealing with anyone who's investing,
Speaker 1: they're going to have notes and things like that. Maybe
Speaker 1: the case, and with some of these shorts, I'm sure
Speaker 1: a good portion are, but I will say that just
Speaker 1: it is, like I said, pure. The purity that's associated
Speaker 1: with the presentation in those films at those festivals is
Speaker 1: so great, and they don't have to worry about offending people,
Speaker 1: about crossing boundaries, about blending genres. It's like and there
Speaker 1: are some great film festivals that are open to whatever
Speaker 1: comes their way in terms of we're only a horror festival. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: what's considered horror. It's kind of subjective, and I love
Speaker 1: the festivals that are happy to blend, sort of mix
Speaker 1: the waters on that stuff.
Speaker 2: That's really speaking of watching films, what have you been
Speaker 2: staying up to date on what have you been able
Speaker 2: to catch recently?
Speaker 1: I saw, Oh, I saw Black Phone two.
Speaker 2: Nice. How'd you feel about the change in genres? Seemingly
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I was never a huge fan of the original. I
Speaker 1: thought it was fine, and I really wasn't that excited
Speaker 1: for the new one. But I had a movie past thing,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, I want to see something. I
Speaker 1: had a few hours while I was running exports, which
Speaker 1: can take a while to you know how that goes,
Speaker 1: or an upload. I think it was at that time
Speaker 1: and decided to go check it out, and I was
Speaker 1: so pleasantly surprised by it. I'm a junkie for winter movies,
Speaker 1: and this thing is one of the snowiest, winteriest, un
Speaker 1: abashedly frozen movies that I've ever seen. And so the
Speaker 1: weather was perfect that day. It was overcast and a
Speaker 1: little bit of rain missed outside. Cool weather finally here
Speaker 1: and I and so the stars aligned to go check
Speaker 1: this thing out. And it was a little talkie for me,
Speaker 1: is what I've said to some people. Yea, and some
Speaker 1: of the dialogue it was kind of hackneyed, but that's
Speaker 1: the final act in that movie is off the rails,
Speaker 1: and I so admire the fact that they went where
Speaker 1: they did with it, and I love that remote, snowy
Speaker 1: setting at this yep, I mean pretty much abandoned camp.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it for people, but the
Speaker 1: setting is bliss for me. And then when you get
Speaker 1: to that third act and they're just swinging hard at
Speaker 1: the fences, I'm like, yeah, keep going, keep going. And
Speaker 1: I walked out very happy.
Speaker 2: So I would agree with all of that. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: saw it, and I liked it much more than the
Speaker 2: first one. Absolutely Okay, well, let's see. Showed my kids
Speaker 2: a couple of films. They are finally nine and a
Speaker 2: half ish tennish where it's like, hey, we can kind
Speaker 2: of show you some of the like soft PG thirteen
Speaker 2: type of films for some of them because they're okay
Speaker 2: with some things and not others. So I showed them
Speaker 2: Underwater from a five years ago or so with christ
Speaker 2: and Stewart. I feel like this is the perfect bridge
Speaker 2: to essentially Alien. It's basically Alien Underwater, which I loved
Speaker 2: that movie from day one. They were quite like enraptured
Speaker 2: with it, which I love to see. A big thing
Speaker 2: about that movie is, you know, two and a half
Speaker 2: minutes into it is where it starts and it never
Speaker 2: lets off. So they were like, oh, what's this, We're swimming?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, here we go. And then for the
Speaker 2: next hour and a half they were just one hundred
Speaker 2: percent in, which was incredible to see.
Speaker 1: I remember watching this is a while back. This is
Speaker 1: like years ago, but my son, he and some other
Speaker 1: kids were watching We had Friday the thirteenth on and
Speaker 1: they were almost angry with how bored they were with
Speaker 1: the movie. They just could not So it sounds like,
Speaker 1: you went the right You made the right choice there
Speaker 1: to keep them engaged and get them into it. That's
Speaker 1: exciting turning the kids onto that stuff.
Speaker 2: Another one that is semi related to something that you did.
Speaker 2: Another one that we showed them this week is Krawl
Speaker 2: Alexandra Aja's Krawl. I like this movie quite a bit
Speaker 2: when it came out, and the only thing the four
Speaker 2: K disc, which is where it's tangentially related to you
Speaker 2: in a few ways. It looks very good, but man,
Speaker 2: does it really highlight how CG the alligators are.
Speaker 1: In this hotel that I haven't even watched the disc yet.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not terrible, but man, it's there. It's
Speaker 2: quite obvious as CG. Which it helped. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: showing young kids this animal attacks film, and this is
Speaker 2: the first one like that that they've ever seen. So
Speaker 2: this is one that they were sort of taken with
Speaker 2: as well, because I mean, this is probably the It's
Speaker 2: not even a super gory film, but there's like there's
Speaker 2: one scene where the guy's arm gets removed, and they
Speaker 2: show a lot of that, and so they were they
Speaker 2: weren't ready for those scenes, but it thankfully, it looks
Speaker 2: a little fake with the Allicator.
Speaker 1: The next stop for you, Ryan is Grizzly.
Speaker 2: That's a it's a good, good idea. Uh it has
Speaker 2: it has.
Speaker 1: I love Grizzly so much. It's one of my comfort
Speaker 1: food movies. And your kids will love. If they couldn't
Speaker 1: handle the arm, they're gonna love when a bear punches
Speaker 1: the head off a horse. They're just gonna, trust me,
Speaker 1: they'll be converted to the animals gotam a subgenre at
Speaker 1: that point. There's so many great animal movies we did.
Speaker 1: I'm on a podcast called Get Me Another. And what
Speaker 1: we do is we take a successful film and then
Speaker 1: we spend I don't know ten episodes breaking down films
Speaker 1: that tried to replicate its success. And we did Get
Speaker 1: Me Another Jaws this summer, and it was so great
Speaker 1: because I got to throw in all these weirdo movies
Speaker 1: that I was so excited to talk about but knew
Speaker 1: I'd never had the opportunity to. And we got into
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies, and I mean just the whole series was
Speaker 1: just a blast to do. So I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of that sub genre.
Speaker 2: I love Grizzly. Grizzly Too is not anywhere near.
Speaker 1: Okay, Grizzly Too is a real movie that stars George
Speaker 1: Clooney and now I'm gonna say stars in big air quotes.
Speaker 1: Who is it, Laura Dern, Charlie Sheen, Yep, George Clooney,
Speaker 1: and then so and they were making this movie and
Speaker 1: then the like the guy who was backed this is
Speaker 1: in the eighties I think, and the guy who was
Speaker 1: backing it disappeared with the money, and so they couldn't
Speaker 1: finish the film. Somehow, someone at some point down the
Speaker 1: line got the rights to it. Did they, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And then they added in a bunch of contemporary like
Speaker 1: b roll footage of bears climbing trees and drone shots
Speaker 1: over forests and things like that, and released it with
Speaker 1: these celebrity names at the top top build, with all
Speaker 1: the raw bear effects in there, like untouched bear effects
Speaker 1: that are so bad and so great. It's really a masterpiece.
Speaker 2: It's so fun. My favorite of that era that feels
Speaker 2: like those I truly adore Day of the Animals. I
Speaker 2: think that movie is incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the double bill right. My hairs really
Speaker 1: bother me here. Sorry. The double bill is Grizzly and
Speaker 1: Day of the animals. I mean, what an incredible duo
Speaker 1: of films there, And but I like, I worked on Alligator.
Speaker 1: That's one of my all time favorites, Alligator to the Mutation.
Speaker 1: I could just go on and on the lately. Gambin
Speaker 1: was really the torch carrier for this world of for
Speaker 1: all eco horror, eco horror, and he wrote books on
Speaker 1: it and spoke on it and did screenings and even
Speaker 1: at the point where I was talking with Lee a
Speaker 1: couple weeks before his surprise passing, he was talking about
Speaker 1: doing this new documentary on this stuff, and John Campo Piano,
Speaker 1: a mutual friend of ours, it was like, this is
Speaker 1: going to be this thing, and then we lost him.
Speaker 1: So rip Lee, for sure. But every time I throw
Speaker 1: one of those movies in, I gotta think of him
Speaker 1: a little bit too.
Speaker 2: Same. It's been wild seeing releases come out with like
Speaker 2: new stuff that he had been working on for so long,
Speaker 2: and then finally to see it come out and it's posthumously,
Speaker 2: like eighteen plus months after his passing has been wild
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 1: Well, he was so prolific. Yeah, he really was just
Speaker 1: an absolute animal. When he put intent nintended on that one,
Speaker 1: he was an animal when it came to this stuff.
Speaker 1: But he was every time you get a message from
Speaker 1: him or get a call from him, he's all fired
Speaker 1: up and talking about this, this, this and this and this,
Speaker 1: and he would do it all.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the thing that can be said about Lee is
Speaker 1: that he was one of us for sure.
Speaker 2: In a very short period of time. Prolific as well.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people think he was doing it
Speaker 2: for a very long time, he didn't really start like
Speaker 2: being attached to the whole industry, like he did screenings
Speaker 2: in Australia and stuff, but like to the industry at large,
Speaker 2: he was only doing it for like six or seven
Speaker 2: years or something like that, like really as heavily as
Speaker 2: he did, which is insanity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, writing for the magazines too and everything. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he left a big legacy in a short
Speaker 1: window of time.
Speaker 2: All right, tonight, One thing that we got to talk
Speaker 2: about before we go into the announcements is the fervor
Speaker 2: around screen factory this week. Have you paid attention to
Speaker 2: any of this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been asked about one hundred people about this
Speaker 1: and so I've had to tune into it and I
Speaker 1: saw the go ahead. You probably have notes here that
Speaker 1: you want to run through.
Speaker 2: No, I mean there's no notes. The big thing here
Speaker 2: is suddenly, right after their s October sale, their website
Speaker 2: was showing prices that for many people were literally too
Speaker 2: good to be true, like liquidation sale prices. Everything must go.
Speaker 2: Holy hell, they are absolutely going out of the business.
Speaker 2: And immediately following the shock of it, somebody on the
Speaker 2: blu ray dot com forums, which historically full of all
Speaker 2: of the correct information, no drama, and absolutely trustworthy anonymous commenting,
Speaker 2: somebody commented and said, yes, screen Factory is exiting the
Speaker 2: physical media market. They will be gone within the next
Speaker 2: few months. Good luck with the sale, essentially is what
Speaker 2: they said, which is insanity. Screen Factory just spent like
Speaker 2: two digit million dollars on this Golden Princess library. They
Speaker 2: have been investing in a lot of upcoming restorations the
Speaker 2: last couple months. They've been announcing almost twenty releases a month. Sure,
Speaker 2: many of them are the same four K discs in
Speaker 2: new packaging. However, they're selling like crazy. Anybody that is
Speaker 2: doing that. To exit the sector would be one of
Speaker 2: the dumbest decisions ever made. You're just walking away from
Speaker 2: a shit ton of money. So on that front any
Speaker 2: comments from you, mister Justin Bean.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it is the internet's habit to take
Speaker 1: the headline, yeah and explode it into a million opinions.
Speaker 1: And I think that one person there was the screenshot
Speaker 1: of the movie club or something, which I wasn't even
Speaker 1: aware a shout had. What was that? Are you aware
Speaker 1: of what this thing was?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a loyalty program they called it. This is
Speaker 2: where it gets super ironic, very quickly for them. They
Speaker 2: should have named it something else, but they called it
Speaker 2: the Physical Media Forever play or club and it shuddered
Speaker 2: like a year and three days after it launched. So
Speaker 2: the running joke was the physical media for a year, club.
Speaker 1: Man, that's harsh. Well, someone posted their email screenshot of
Speaker 1: that having been like the notice to the fan club
Speaker 1: members or whatever that there was going to be a
Speaker 1: change in how they were distributing and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's the big discussion in the whole industry right
Speaker 1: now is like what's next. And meanwhile everyone's looking around
Speaker 1: going what is happening? Because it's like fires burning all
Speaker 1: around the industry that are kind of encroaching in various ways.
Speaker 1: And the physical media thing is a conversation I've been
Speaker 1: having since I started in this business, back when I
Speaker 1: very first started doing this stuff. Are you, well, you know,
Speaker 1: physical media is dead and now look at all these
Speaker 1: indie labels that are doing great and whatever else. Even
Speaker 1: Paramount ended up getting back on the train with Paramount
Speaker 1: Presents and these other things. So I think my read
Speaker 1: on it, and I have no inside information on this whatsoever,
Speaker 1: my reading on it is that it's, uh. It may
Speaker 1: be a decision made internally to transition how they're distributing
Speaker 1: to those fan club people are pricing it, or I
Speaker 1: don't even know what that plan was, so I can't
Speaker 1: really speak to that, but I cannot imagine that they're
Speaker 1: going anywhere and they What I will say with conviction
Speaker 1: because of personal experience, is that when I was working there,
Speaker 1: they were adamant that they were a physical media company.
Speaker 1: I would pitch things to them about well because they
Speaker 1: eventually got shout TV underway, right the Roku app and
Speaker 1: all that, and I'd be like, I have stuff from
Speaker 1: these interviews that we could put on shout TV as
Speaker 1: like a bridge between the two, and we could advertise
Speaker 1: with the Blu Ray announcement like and there's extra content
Speaker 1: on Shout TV or something. And what I got back was,
Speaker 1: we're a physical media company. I mean, they they were
Speaker 1: building Shout TV and obviously not shying away from their
Speaker 1: efforts there, but it was made very clear to me
Speaker 1: that that was not something that they really wanted to
Speaker 1: dance with. So the whole time I was there, and
Speaker 1: granted it was a different lineup of people when I
Speaker 1: was working with them, Cliff and Jeff were evangelists for
Speaker 1: physical media, and they stood by their releases, they stood
Speaker 1: by their mission statement to do their best by all
Speaker 1: these titles the entire time that I was with them,
Speaker 1: And so I cannot imagine any company with that kind
Speaker 1: of framework being broken down to the point in such
Speaker 1: short order where they're just going to walk from physical media.
Speaker 1: So I say, nay, I don't believe that it's the case.
Speaker 2: Well, and the other evidence this is a dumb word
Speaker 2: to use about that, but the other evidence is that
Speaker 2: their umbrella corporation that owns Shout Factory now or Shout
Speaker 2: Studios is not Shout Factory has merged with film Rise,
Speaker 2: that they also acquired film Rise, and for a lot
Speaker 2: of people, that means on the surface, oh, now they're
Speaker 2: only focusing on streaming, so they're gone. The joke here, though,
Speaker 2: is if you pay attention elsewhere over the last three days,
Speaker 2: Groove or Grove. I know a lot of people pronounce it.
Speaker 1: You have you never known how to say it. I
Speaker 1: always think, is that grove? I always think, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: sounds like a disease.
Speaker 2: It is the storefront for STS Studio Distribution Services, which
Speaker 2: is servicing Universal WB and a bunch of these other
Speaker 2: smaller companies. That is just, hey, we don't have a storefront.
Speaker 2: You take care of it for us. You're already distributing.
Speaker 2: It makes sense. You already got the product. Why would
Speaker 2: you send it to us to send to other people?
Speaker 2: So here we go, shout factory God, I did it again,
Speaker 2: shout studios. They all of a sudden last three days
Speaker 2: have more than seventeen hundred skews listed on Grove or Groove,
Speaker 2: So it appears that Groove is just going to be
Speaker 2: the one that carries them now and all there's stuff
Speaker 2: that used to be shout site exclusives that now say
Speaker 2: Groove exclusives on the Groove website. So it's pretty obvious
Speaker 2: like they're cutting out the middleman. They don't want to
Speaker 2: pay for shipping twice. It's probably costing them a ton
Speaker 2: of money. Why pay for somebody to do customer service
Speaker 2: for you when you can just do it through groove.
Speaker 1: The landscape is shifted. For those of us who are
Speaker 1: dedicated to this cause, we cannot ignore the fact or
Speaker 1: pretend it's not happening that stores stockiness stuff are fewer
Speaker 1: and farther between, and it isn't a retail universe like
Speaker 1: we are used to, or like we can even reference
Speaker 1: in terms of success and how far title travels after
Speaker 1: release or anything like that. And everyone's happen to adjust
Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure out the smartest way to
Speaker 1: do this. And there are also fewer duplication facilities than
Speaker 1: there were before now. I will say again from personal experience,
Speaker 1: back when I was working with the Halloween stuff, I
Speaker 1: wanted to do a forty five one year of the
Speaker 1: Halloween theme and Lourie's theme on a collectible forty five
Speaker 1: kind of a thing. And at that point there were
Speaker 1: almost no vinyl presses that I could find. And I
Speaker 1: was talking to this company, Rainbow Records, that used to
Speaker 1: do custom presses, and they were down to do it,
Speaker 1: but we didn't end up doing the record, but within
Speaker 1: a couple of years they were gone. And now that's
Speaker 1: hence Ryan at TerrorVision picking up his own press. He's like,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for these people to do this, and
Speaker 1: I need to make sure the quality is where it
Speaker 1: needs to be. So but now there's more presses than
Speaker 1: there were ten years ago, fifteen years whenever that was,
Speaker 1: I was doing the Halloween stuff. So never say never
Speaker 1: about any of this. And even though there are fewer
Speaker 1: places doing the duplication on the Blu rays and things
Speaker 1: like that, at this moment, you never know what might
Speaker 1: come down the road, and I think everyone is wise,
Speaker 1: especially as we're likely heading into some kind of depression
Speaker 1: here the country. They need to be planning ahead and
Speaker 1: figuring out the wisest way to deal with this stuff
Speaker 1: financially so they can keep releasing stuff, so they can
Speaker 1: keep feeding the audience the titles and the kind of
Speaker 1: stuff that they're really hungry for, because the appetite's not
Speaker 1: going anywhere. It's just a matter of supply and demand.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know, that's my piece on it.
Speaker 1: I wish them the best, I think, I mean shout
Speaker 1: change my life. That company. They really did, They really did.
Speaker 1: I mean, Fangoria changed my life, and then that led
Speaker 1: to Trancas changed my life, led to Shout change my
Speaker 1: life again. And if it wouldn't have been for Cliff
Speaker 1: and Jeff walking up to me at Horror Hound in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: I think it was the show where it was the
Speaker 1: show where Jamie Lee Curtis did her one mention appearance
Speaker 1: and she was lovely to everybody and stayed way late
Speaker 1: to make sure everybody got attention and all that. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I was standing in the lobby talking with Joel Robinson
Speaker 1: and up walk these two guys, and all I had
Speaker 1: produced at that point was Halloween four and five the
Speaker 1: commentaries on those because Anchor Bay wanted no special features
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, we need to do this the
Speaker 1: right way. And they also wanted to change the cover
Speaker 1: art and the font for the logos and stuff. It's
Speaker 1: hilarious what they wanted to do with that stuff. I
Speaker 1: hope someday I can show the battles that I fought
Speaker 1: on the Halloween four and five Blu rays and I
Speaker 1: tried to even bring Joel in for some art that
Speaker 1: didn't work, and Anyway, Cliff and Jeff walk up and
Speaker 1: they go, hey, we love your Halloween four and five stuff.
Speaker 1: Would you like to do more of that? And I'm like, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I would, that would be great, and they hold up
Speaker 1: the sheet. They're like, well, we have a few titles
Speaker 1: that are in cue to any of these, like we're
Speaker 1: launching this thing called screen Factory. But outside of the
Speaker 1: horror stuff, what else is there anything? And tank Girl
Speaker 1: was on that list and I was like that, you
Speaker 1: have no clue. At the time, I was talking with Rachel,
Speaker 1: the director of Tank Girl, about a book on it,
Speaker 1: and anyway, it's just like stars aligned for sure, and
Speaker 1: from there it was off to the races. And it's
Speaker 1: never been the same for me since. So I owe
Speaker 1: them so much and I wish them the best. If
Speaker 1: this is a troubling time for Shout, which I hope
Speaker 1: it isn't, then I certainly hope they survive and keep
Speaker 1: on doing what they're doing, because anyone who's in this
Speaker 1: fight is doing it for the right reasons. I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and the hard part is Cliff and Jeff,
Speaker 2: who's already come up multiple times during this, are no
Speaker 2: longer with Shouts. Of course, Cliff is with Arrow, bringing
Speaker 2: with him a bunch of incredible acquisitions. Aero has been
Speaker 2: killing it, and Jeff is making really interesting music.
Speaker 1: No his songs is Yeah, every time he REases the
Speaker 1: new and I'm like, I love it, man, It's so great.
Speaker 1: And who would have thought? Who would have thought that
Speaker 1: Jeff would be a man? I'm so happy for him
Speaker 1: because he seems so happy doing it. You just feel
Speaker 1: the joy in him in doing that. So I'm what
Speaker 1: a great twist in the Jeff Nelson saga for him
Speaker 1: to end up doing like disco singles and stuff. Amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, we're about to start the announcements, but before we do,
Speaker 2: there's one more thing that I got to ask about
Speaker 2: because you just brought up fan Boria. Since the last
Speaker 2: time you were on here, the whole Paramount Scares thing
Speaker 2: has happened. It's been public and they put out two
Speaker 2: of the box sets, and you got to do all
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff to curate what was in that first
Speaker 2: thing and do your own like Fangoria released. I mean,
Speaker 2: what that's that's amazing.
Speaker 1: That that credit one goes to Todd inside Paramount Marketing,
Speaker 1: who is a huge horror fan. Yeah, and when I
Speaker 1: first started working with Paramount, I really felt I was
Speaker 1: pretty certain that I was going to feel like just
Speaker 1: a number on a spreadsheet. It was the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: The team that I had was incredible people. I'm in
Speaker 1: touch with all of them to this day. But Todd
Speaker 1: and I made it formed a real fast bond because
Speaker 1: he is such a horror nut and Paramount isn't famous
Speaker 1: for being real celebratory about their horror. If you think
Speaker 1: about the legacy of the Friday films and how they
Speaker 1: did those DVDs with the cover art, with like the
Speaker 1: long mask and the oh those were the worst. It's
Speaker 1: like they were just, Okay, we know we can make
Speaker 1: money off this, but we don't want to admit that
Speaker 1: this is really what kind of kept us alive for
Speaker 1: a long time. Right, It's a big part of their legacy.
Speaker 1: So to find this Todd inside marketing as such a
Speaker 1: devout lover of horror was a great joy, and he
Speaker 1: and I have I mean, it was a bond and
Speaker 1: then a great partnership throughout that with me and Todd
Speaker 1: and the executives in there, and so that was their baby,
Speaker 1: the whole Paramount scream stuff. I was just sort of
Speaker 1: a cog in the wheel on it. Really, for the
Speaker 1: most part, I had originally intended to be a lot
Speaker 1: more involved than I ended up being, but due to
Speaker 1: scheduling and other stuff, it just wasn't destined to be.
Speaker 1: But the Fangoria thing came around, and because of my
Speaker 1: history with a magazine, I think ended up getting to
Speaker 1: be the guest editor for that special issue that was
Speaker 1: inside that first box set, which is a tremendous thrill,
Speaker 1: and I have it in a bagged and boarded tucked
Speaker 1: away safely outside the confines of the box so I
Speaker 1: can pull it out and look at it anytime. It
Speaker 1: was a real honor. But I mean even that that
Speaker 1: was I have to say, it was like an honorary thing.
Speaker 1: For the most part. I can take no credit for
Speaker 1: the majesty of that magazine or that box because the
Speaker 1: Fangoria team killed it with that with a combination of
Speaker 1: new and vintage articles that were in there, and then
Speaker 1: the box set itself. I mean, the marketing crew was
Speaker 1: so into the chochkeys, the pins, the patches and stickers
Speaker 1: and all that, and it's so beautiful sitting on your shelf.
Speaker 1: The slip covers that were unique to those editions, and
Speaker 1: I think my probably my biggest contribution is probably the
Speaker 1: most reviled, which is in volume two. When people saw
Speaker 1: the lineup of films in Volume two, everybody was excited
Speaker 1: for Friday too, because Friday the Thirteenth, Part two was
Speaker 1: in that box on four K for the first time,
Speaker 1: the only way you could get it at the time.
Speaker 1: But also they put Breakdown in there.
Speaker 2: Which we get to talk about tonight too, which we.
Speaker 1: Get to talk about more. But boy, were people a whr. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think people were angry about Jason's mask. I mean,
Speaker 1: you get Kurt Russell in a horror box, they're not. Actually,
Speaker 1: that's Kurt rules and the film's great and Big Troubles,
Speaker 1: a total masterpiece. But when maybe you can ask about
Speaker 1: it later. If we're going to get into a breakdown,
Speaker 1: stop me. Now here's your change.
Speaker 2: We will in a little bit.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll talk more about Breakdown and Kurt Russell in
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 2: People, I mean to you, I'm sure you can't just
Speaker 2: announce it. Are they planning on continuing? Because I know
Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, when are we getting
Speaker 2: Paramount Scars three this year?
Speaker 1: I really don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: A confession on the Paramount front is that things have
Speaker 1: really changed with them too. Yeah, this sky Dance acquisition
Speaker 1: really shifted a lot of pieces. And of course I'm
Speaker 1: not on the inside for anything, so I don't have
Speaker 1: answers for anything. But the last active project I did
Speaker 1: with Paramount was the one I'm proud of stuff, which
Speaker 1: is bringing out the Dead, and that is if there
Speaker 1: was a way to go, it was that one, because
Speaker 1: we can talk more about that later. But yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I mean, they aren't really pushing these things. I don't
Speaker 1: want to put words in their mouth, but it's definitely
Speaker 1: a different scenario in there now that this Skydance situation
Speaker 1: has happened. And in terms of my relationship with them,
Speaker 1: I'm still friends with all of them. Todd and I
Speaker 1: message all the time and I sent him the album
Speaker 1: and whatever. I love them all dearly. But seeing the
Speaker 1: shots of the water tower being painted, yeah, they're removing
Speaker 1: the Paramount logo.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking, man. But since then, I mean to illustrate
Speaker 1: how awesome that team is. I took my son out
Speaker 1: there to California last year and they welcomed us on
Speaker 1: the lot. So Julian could see around, and we got
Speaker 1: to write, got the little golf cart tour and shown
Speaker 1: the secret Koy pond, and he got to see all
Speaker 1: these behind the scenes things that hopefully one day he
Speaker 1: looks back on fondly. So everyone there is so amazing,
Speaker 1: and I just love them to death, and I missed
Speaker 1: working with them so much.
Speaker 2: I really do well. On that note, we'll talk more
Speaker 2: about working with them after. Let's get to some of
Speaker 2: these announcements, because I'm so eager to hear you talk
Speaker 2: about some of these. We already talked about Black Phone too,
Speaker 2: so we won't cover this too much. But of course
Speaker 2: they're doing a four case deal. Look for this. You
Speaker 2: can get this out everywhere. They're claiming it's a Walmart exclusive,
Speaker 2: but a reminder that one of the other Walmart exclusives
Speaker 2: from them recently also showed up elsewhere, so the exclusive
Speaker 2: word might not mean what it used to mean. So
Speaker 2: we'll see decent film. We both liked it. Check it out.
Speaker 1: If you're into it, that's going to enter my winter
Speaker 1: rotation for sure.
Speaker 2: It's deserving, like it's such a cold movie. Yeah, such
Speaker 2: a cold movie. We talked about Deaf Crocodile earlier as well.
Speaker 2: They are putting out in November this three film box
Speaker 2: set of too Votulio. He is a finish film director.
Speaker 2: Beautiful art on this release from mister Sam's myth that
Speaker 2: might show up in the chat later. Love the art
Speaker 2: that they went with for this. There are three just
Speaker 2: wild films in this. We got Cross of Love, Restless
Speaker 2: Blood and then the absolutely surreal, silly, incredible Sensuela from
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three. Lots of extras on this. We've got
Speaker 2: remaining fragments of lost films from him that are the
Speaker 2: only bits that they could find, which is so cool
Speaker 2: that they want to do this. We've got two finished
Speaker 2: educational films from the nineteen forties. Who else is going
Speaker 2: to put that on these? We've got new visual essays,
Speaker 2: new commentaries. We've got sixty page book with a bunch
Speaker 2: of different essays in it. I adore these films, highly
Speaker 2: recommend you checking them out to Votulio. I'm sure this
Speaker 2: is not a filmmaker that you've heard or seen much from.
Speaker 1: No, it's new to me, but I'm absolutely intrigued.
Speaker 2: Looks great, it is. It is so good. Uh and
Speaker 2: Cinsuela in particular, is wild like. There is tons of nudity,
Speaker 2: there's tons of partying. There is robot or not that
Speaker 2: was the wrong word, not robot. Reindeer castration happening. Well, yep,
Speaker 2: that's the type of film.
Speaker 1: It's the reindeer castration type of film, Ryan.
Speaker 2: It is. And if you look at the cover, did
Speaker 2: you see that in the art. This is why I
Speaker 2: love this so much. It is surrounded by black and whites,
Speaker 2: and the color imagery makes the shape of a reindeer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I look at that. I love reindeer. That's good.
Speaker 1: I don't like them being castrated, though. See I don't
Speaker 1: care for that. It sounds like Jim Wenorski's Lost Empire.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Lost Empire from Jim?
Speaker 2: I have? I have.
Speaker 1: It's nothing like okay, not well, it doesn't have reindeer
Speaker 1: having their nets cut off, but it has everything else
Speaker 1: that Jim could possibly cram into it. And I think
Speaker 1: it's so great. It's this unsung movie. It has no distribution.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to it. But wan Orsky
Speaker 1: got this chance to make a short story. Wearski thought
Speaker 1: he have one shot at making a movie. So he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm putting everything into it. I'm pouring
Speaker 1: every single thing. There's gonna be martial arts, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be all this and a gorilla we're gonna put It's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's such a great movie and Alan Howard's score for
Speaker 1: it has been on constant rotation since Alan did a
Speaker 1: re release on that years ago, and it's so good.
Speaker 1: So there's my plug, completely unrelated to this box set
Speaker 1: for Jim Minorski's Lost the Empire, which does not have
Speaker 1: any animal castration in it, but does have a gorilla
Speaker 1: suit and plenty of kung fu.
Speaker 2: I need a deluxe edition of that film too.
Speaker 1: I do to. I wanted to release that. I will
Speaker 1: start a company to release that movie.
Speaker 2: I want to see somebody put out like loving deluxe
Speaker 2: editions of all of Jim's films.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about Timepolis got it. My friend Klay westerveltz documentary,
Speaker 1: which is fantastic.
Speaker 2: It's such a good release.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 2: All right. So that is Tulio check it out shipping
Speaker 2: near the end of November, hopefully next is Imprint. They
Speaker 2: announced a lot of stuff coming this month first January seventh.
Speaker 2: We've got the Old Dark House in four K and
Speaker 2: everything else in this is Blu Ray, but is a
Speaker 2: box set directed by James Whale. So cool, going from
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty two to nineteen forty. Green excuse me, Green
Speaker 2: Hell from nineteen forty is the first time it's ever
Speaker 2: been on Blu Ray. And then Wives under Suspicion from
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty eight is an SD on this one. That's
Speaker 2: all that they could get from material, but again new extras,
Speaker 2: lots of stuff coming on this pretty giant box set
Speaker 2: for people that love James Whale and to get this
Speaker 2: from imprint. This looks really really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited for that. I was talking about Whale
Speaker 1: and a presentation I did at a halloweena Puluoza festival
Speaker 1: in Iowa here a couple weeks ago, and I was
Speaker 1: doing the history of the vampire film and talking about
Speaker 1: Whale and how this guy was so veiled in mystery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, for a lot of reasons he was at
Speaker 1: the time, and I'm so happy that he finally seems
Speaker 1: to be getting his Not that he hasn't been celebrated
Speaker 1: for a long time, right, not saying that, but I
Speaker 1: mean this kind of stuff speaks to the fact that
Speaker 1: people are really paying attention now and people are really
Speaker 1: dialing into his work. It's great.
Speaker 2: I yeah, highly recommend these, especially the Old Dark House.
Speaker 2: This is probably the most recognizable one of this box
Speaker 2: d but truly a masterpiece. Next up is a directed
Speaker 2: by David Lean Box that. This is volume two. They
Speaker 2: had already done one prior. This covers from nineteen forty
Speaker 2: nine to nineteen fifty five. We've got the Passionate Friends,
Speaker 2: Madeline's the first time it's been out on Blu ray
Speaker 2: in the entire world. We've got the Sound Barrier, Hobson's
Speaker 2: Choice Summertime, and this is coming in a big hard
Speaker 2: box set like they do. You've got again, new extras
Speaker 2: all over this thing, new audio commentaries, new appreciations, new interviews,
Speaker 2: just pretty much anything that you could want on these
Speaker 2: films that have not had great releases. So to have
Speaker 2: all this together is incredible. Are you a David Lean
Speaker 2: person at all?
Speaker 1: I'm not that. I mean, I'm not well traveled with
Speaker 1: David Lean, but I'm just laughing because I'm thinking, what
Speaker 1: a great time to be a fan of film, What
Speaker 1: a great time to be a collector. It really is.
Speaker 2: I mean, on top of all the films, there's a
Speaker 2: bonus disc in here that has a new documentary called
Speaker 2: Before the Epic David Lean's Little Gems Part Two. There
Speaker 2: is a David Lean's self portrait documentary from nineteen seventy one,
Speaker 2: and then two features one from nineteen eighty five to
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety on the South Bank Show. Plus it has
Speaker 2: a seventy page booklet that's a hardcover book like this
Speaker 2: is crazy. There's so much in this it is remarkable.
Speaker 1: They are so exhaustive with their box sets. It's almost overwhelming.
Speaker 1: Like the Folk Horror Box. I'm still going through it.
Speaker 1: I'm still working that way through. That was them, right, Nope,
Speaker 1: that was seven. I was seven. I'm sorry. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: my bad.
Speaker 2: If it's an exhaust box that it was probably so okay,
Speaker 2: seven all right. But I mean Imprint has done a
Speaker 2: lot of box sets over the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: The big thing. I don't know if you've picked up
Speaker 2: any of them, but the Tales of Adventure box sets.
Speaker 2: I think they've done like nine of them now, and
Speaker 2: each one has I think at least four films, and
Speaker 2: some of them have five or six, and they're just
Speaker 2: the old adventure films that are crazy moment Yeah, two
Speaker 2: too many. Next from Imprint is Alfred Hitchcock The Early
Speaker 2: Years Volume two. This covers nineteen thirty six to nineteen
Speaker 2: forty and has sabotage Young and Innocent, the Lady vanishes,
Speaker 2: foreign correspondents, and then Waltz is from Vienna from nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty four. Is an SD only, but it is on
Speaker 2: Blu Ray and uh yeah, good good looking stuff to
Speaker 2: go with that first box that they did again, exhaustive
Speaker 2: special features, new commentaries, new appreciations, pretty much anything that
Speaker 2: you would want for these titles as well and for
Speaker 2: for Hitchcock fans. The Imprint has been given a lot
Speaker 2: for you to appreciate, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: It's nice that they aren't just relegated to those public
Speaker 1: domain Yeah, that the same transfers shuffled through multiple box
Speaker 1: sets and cheapy little bargain bin releases. It's great to
Speaker 1: see this happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is pretty impressive. Dorrit Brian says, don't worry
Speaker 2: about Waltz being an SD it sucks at any restons.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. That's funny. Next up is Terror Vision
Speaker 2: again the Basement horror anthology. So this is from nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty nine. This had originally come out from Camp Motion Pictures,
Speaker 2: and this little hint in one of their paragraphs here
Speaker 2: says that they are working with Camp Motion Pictures to
Speaker 2: bring the one Slots film to HG for the very
Speaker 2: first time, and more coming from Camp Motion Pictures eventually
Speaker 2: from Terror Vision. The Basement Horor Anthology. Is this one
Speaker 2: that you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: I haven't no, but the camp stuff I have so
Speaker 1: much of. Yeah, Beauty gleeen Butcher was shot here in Iowa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was Camp Motion Pictures.
Speaker 2: This is a crazy release because I believe and for
Speaker 2: terr Vision this is saying a lot. I believe this
Speaker 2: is the most robust release they've ever put out. All
Speaker 2: of these bonus features would take me like the next
Speaker 2: four minutes to go through new interviews with all kinds
Speaker 2: of people, multiple new commentaries, multiple short films. There are
Speaker 2: multiple like old TV spots. There are like Middleland Showcase,
Speaker 2: the Halloween Takeover from nineteen eighty nine, a couple other
Speaker 2: Midland Showcase, Horror Host TV pilots, FBI Guys episode, and
Speaker 2: then of course after all of that, they also have
Speaker 2: a CD of the soundtrack on this, like, this is
Speaker 2: an absolutely astonishing release of the Basement, which the previous
Speaker 2: release of this was pretty terrible looking, and now this
Speaker 2: is going to be the best release this has ever gone.
Speaker 1: I remember the videotape release that they did of that
Speaker 1: kind of floating around. I remember it was always in
Speaker 1: a meba. They always had it on the end cap,
Speaker 1: almost like somebody by this please. It's great to see
Speaker 1: this get this kind of love in any movie, and
Speaker 1: I think that they take pride in that. I know
Speaker 1: you work closely with them, but it's almost like the
Speaker 1: more obscure, like we're gonna that we're gonna show, We're
Speaker 1: going to show the critics, we're gonna cram this thing
Speaker 1: so full. I love it well.
Speaker 2: And you worked with them as well. What are some
Speaker 2: of the titles that you worked on when you were
Speaker 2: with Terror Vision for a while.
Speaker 1: I was the first run of them, Like, yeah, see,
Speaker 1: I should have been prepared to pull this stuff up,
Speaker 1: but I was. I mean, I was doing Copperhead Captives.
Speaker 1: I can't even remember them all, but I was. Oh,
Speaker 1: we did Hollowgate. That was the one that I was
Speaker 1: probably had the most fun with. I was so I
Speaker 1: love that movie my life, and I still had my
Speaker 1: original videotape that I got from a video store when
Speaker 1: they went under, and I just loved that movie and
Speaker 1: it ended up being I don't think we ever really
Speaker 1: talked about it, but it ended up being the director
Speaker 1: Ray's final interview. He's like maybe first and final. He
Speaker 1: was so excited to be a part of that, and
Speaker 1: his wife reached out to me a few weeks maybe
Speaker 1: a month after it went down, and she just said
Speaker 1: that it was the greatest joy for him to have
Speaker 1: a chance to see this movie get some love. So
Speaker 1: it isn't just for the fans if these things are happening,
Speaker 1: it's also for the filmmakers, for the people who were
Speaker 1: part of these things that in like Ray's case, it's
Speaker 1: a bullet point on his history. You know, he went
Speaker 1: on to do other things and he never really became
Speaker 1: the filmmaker that he wanted to be, and so to
Speaker 1: have it celebrated, especially at that time, was just so special.
Speaker 1: But I was cutting trailers for Terror Vision and we
Speaker 1: were doing all sorts of stuff in the beginning. It
Speaker 1: was tremendously exciting and how aggressive Brad and Ryan were
Speaker 1: about like we're gonna like, we got so much great
Speaker 1: stuff here. We really want to brank this out. Just
Speaker 1: it's been great to see them the last like this
Speaker 1: rise over the last year here especially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Next up, we've got an anime released
Speaker 2: January twelfth. We're getting a Blu ray of Assassination Classroom,
Speaker 2: the complete series from twenty thirteen to twenty sixteen. I'm
Speaker 2: not huge on anime. Have you seen much anime? Are
Speaker 2: you into it? No?
Speaker 1: I haven't really seen too much.
Speaker 2: No, I have heard this is not very good, so
Speaker 2: I won't spend much time on this. However, check it
Speaker 2: out from crunchy roll if you're into it. I remember
Speaker 2: seeing the cover art for this and the smiley faced
Speaker 2: thing everywhere for a little while, so I know at
Speaker 2: least many people were into it.
Speaker 1: Okay, good.
Speaker 2: Next one that I've never seen, and I think this
Speaker 2: is one of the most divisive announcements I put out
Speaker 2: this week. Like half the people will like this is
Speaker 2: a pilot shit the other effort, This is an underrated masterpiece.
Speaker 2: That's what you believe exactly. It gets people talking. You
Speaker 2: know what? Ray Area November tenth, the Blu ray in
Speaker 2: the UK from screen Bound is the Libertine from two
Speaker 2: thousand and four, starring Johnny Depp and John Malkovich. I
Speaker 2: gotta be honest, I don't think i'd even heard of
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pass me by as well another one.
Speaker 2: There's a making of doc, some deleted scenes and a
Speaker 2: director's commentary on this and as far as I can tell,
Speaker 2: this has never had a US Blu ray, so this
Speaker 2: will likely be the first English friendly Blu ray that
Speaker 2: you can pick up. For this one. Screen Boud kind
Speaker 2: of doing a lot of stuff lately, so it's nice
Speaker 2: to see good stuff next to another UK company, Dazzler Media,
Speaker 2: choosing Mary and George to put out on four K
Speaker 2: on December first. They have been making some interesting choices
Speaker 2: on wan to put on four K lately. I'm glad
Speaker 2: that they have confidence in this one, but not one
Speaker 2: I ever expected on four K. I know Julianne Moore
Speaker 2: was the big selling point for this, but I never
Speaker 2: checked this one out. Did you see this note?
Speaker 1: Is that why she's the only one with her whole
Speaker 1: face visible on the front?
Speaker 2: I believe so, or that was likely in her contract?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, have not seen this one. Curious at
Speaker 2: the very least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, she's great, She's next one.
Speaker 2: She is always incredible. This one I'm very excited to
Speaker 2: check out. I've been checking out some more of these
Speaker 2: smaller documentaries lately, and November eighteenth, Music Box is putting
Speaker 2: out a blu ray of Secret Mall Apartment from last year.
Speaker 2: This is about eight Rhode Island artists who created a
Speaker 2: secret apartment inside the busy Providence Place mall and lived
Speaker 2: there for four years, filming everything. During their journey. They
Speaker 2: snuck in furniture, tapped into the mall's electricity, and even
Speaker 2: constructed a wall itself, smuggling in more than two tons
Speaker 2: of cinder blocks.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm in Yeah, I gotta see this. I'm very excited
Speaker 2: for music Boxes kind of Quiet putting us some really
Speaker 2: great stuff. I don't think there's any extras on this,
Speaker 2: but I'm just dying to see this documentary. This sounds amazing, absolutely,
Speaker 2: especially after this year's Roofman. Did you see that with
Speaker 2: Channing Tatum?
Speaker 1: No, see, you're so much, You're so up on things.
Speaker 1: I'm here with blinders on, editing and shooting all the time,
Speaker 1: and you're I rely on you. I rely on you
Speaker 1: and your posts to help me understand anything about the
Speaker 1: outside world. I'm like a hibernating bear that's perpetually down
Speaker 1: in my cave.
Speaker 2: Well, if you get a chance, I suggest checking out Roofman.
Speaker 2: Roofman is about a guy I think it was in
Speaker 2: North Carolina. He escaped from prison under a truck that
Speaker 2: he was working on in the prison and went out
Speaker 2: and lived in a toys R Russ for like seven
Speaker 2: or eight months, hiding from the cops. And it's a
Speaker 2: true story, Like almost everything in the movie was based
Speaker 2: on fairly true facts. Gosh, it was shot ing Lee great.
Speaker 2: I definitely recommend it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write that down.
Speaker 2: And Kirsten Duntz isn't and she's very good too. What
Speaker 2: Roofman all one word? Roofman got it? Next? We got
Speaker 2: Decal soon putting out a blu ray of this year's
Speaker 2: Bone Lake. This is one of those two couples book
Speaker 2: an Airbnb at the same time and they have to
Speaker 2: figure it out. Horror movies that seem to be a
Speaker 2: thing lately, like that's a new genre. Didn't love this,
Speaker 2: but I liked it, and I kind of liked that
Speaker 2: in a wide theatrical release, this thing got a little
Speaker 2: extra sleezy in its plot. It wasn't like super nudity heavy,
Speaker 2: but the actual plot was sleezy, which kind of nice
Speaker 2: to see you in twenty twenty five when everybody's trying
Speaker 2: to go extra prude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bring it.
Speaker 2: It's a good one. Check it out. Next is Coyotes,
Speaker 2: which I have not heard a single good thing about yet.
Speaker 2: This is coming out Blu Ray November twenty fifth from
Speaker 2: dcal as well. This is starring Justin Long and literally
Speaker 2: about some people trapped in their house and it gets
Speaker 2: overran by coyotes and the CGI is supposedly just some
Speaker 2: of the worst that have come out this year. Kind
Speaker 2: of curious to see this because Justin Long is like
Speaker 2: one of the best final guys in horror right now
Speaker 2: and not even right now for the last twenty years.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, it sounds fun and I'm supposedly
Speaker 2: it's real.
Speaker 1: Bad all right. Well that makes me want to see
Speaker 1: it more, honestly, So.
Speaker 2: Honestly same. Another person that works in this industry that
Speaker 2: I appreciate a lot is mister Daniel Kramer, and you
Speaker 2: can now check out his newest book, which is Adventures
Speaker 2: and au Tourism, a crusade for the critically neglected. This
Speaker 2: has a long table of contents of directors that he
Speaker 2: is covering that have never gotten not even just like
Speaker 2: enough love, but in many of the cases no love.
Speaker 2: These are directors that have been overlooked in almost every
Speaker 2: single way. And he worked on this for quite some time.
Speaker 2: Love the cover right here from Scott Saslow. I think
Speaker 2: it is very eye catching. This is definitely what I'm
Speaker 2: going to be reading here soon. You can pick this
Speaker 2: up from the publisher, but also currently available from Amazon.
Speaker 2: And Daniel is a brilliant, brilliant mind. Very curious to
Speaker 2: see how this turns out for everybody. I know this
Speaker 2: is probably a hard sell because if you are walking
Speaker 2: into this, you're not going, oh, I love that director,
Speaker 2: because the whole point of this is that you probably
Speaker 2: have not seen or heard of the director's name in
Speaker 2: much of anything. So kind of very, very very curious
Speaker 2: to see how this goes over with fans of film.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad he did this. Daniel's screen.
Speaker 2: He also mentioned this week he's working on another book
Speaker 2: already and another documentary that's supposed to be coming out
Speaker 2: this year, which is just insanity. Daniel, Yeah, check this
Speaker 2: one out. Everybody highly highly recommend checking out his reading.
Speaker 2: To Macabre is having their Halloween sale here soon and
Speaker 2: they are releasing five titles as part of it. We're
Speaker 2: gonna be talking about two of them tonight and three
Speaker 2: of them next week, and these are all going to
Speaker 2: be on sale one week from today. October thirtieth is
Speaker 2: when the sale starts. This is going up at nine
Speaker 2: am Pacific twelve noon Eastern next Thursday. The first title
Speaker 2: here is a four K release of The Devil's Nightmare.
Speaker 2: They had put this out previously, and the Blu ray
Speaker 2: for this looked pretty poor. I think Modern Macabro would
Speaker 2: be one of the first ones to say that it
Speaker 2: is not one that looked great in HD, but it
Speaker 2: also wasn't a scan from the OCN and this one is.
Speaker 2: So this is going to look leaps and bounds better
Speaker 2: than the previous release, brand new four K scan of
Speaker 2: the OCN, But on top of that, they're going above
Speaker 2: and beyond to make it a better release. We've got
Speaker 2: new interviews here with the star Erica Blanc and the director.
Speaker 2: We've got visual essay here by Christoph Beier. There's all
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff and this that look great and really
Speaker 2: make it worth upgrading even if you had the old
Speaker 2: Blu Ray. I love landa mccopper. Are they a company
Speaker 2: that you've been deep into ever?
Speaker 1: I became obsessed with them many years ago with Nice
Speaker 1: and the movie that really did it for me was
Speaker 1: Lady Terminator. It's so good and every time they make
Speaker 1: these and I'm so glad they're still around, and I'm
Speaker 1: so glad that they're continuing to they're up scaling this
Speaker 1: stuff great, not upscale, but you know the fact that
Speaker 1: they're giving new love to these and putting him in
Speaker 1: proper packages with new special features, because a lot of
Speaker 1: their stuff just was languishing on DVD for so long,
Speaker 1: and there was this list of titles that I'm like,
Speaker 1: but at the top of it every time, and every
Speaker 1: time I see their name pop up and they're making
Speaker 1: some announcement, I'm like, it's got to be Lady t
Speaker 1: Give Lady Terminator a four K release. Even Blu Ray
Speaker 1: would make me so happy, but they are the only
Speaker 1: ones who would do that. And I was so obsessed
Speaker 1: with Lady Terminator. After Discovery, my friend Jake got a
Speaker 1: copy of it and we used to do movie nights
Speaker 1: over at his old place where he had like a
Speaker 1: movie room, and he's like, you got to see this.
Speaker 1: Put it in blew my mind. I've talked, I talk
Speaker 1: about it all the time. I'm like panels and stuff
Speaker 1: I bring. I love that movie. And then I tracked
Speaker 1: down Barbara Ann Constable, the gal who plays Lady Terminator
Speaker 1: in the film, an interviewer for Fangoria years ago, and
Speaker 1: she was so surprised when I called. She's like, how
Speaker 1: to is that out? Is that on video? And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's on DVD. She's like, I didn't think anybody. It
Speaker 1: was a great conversation in the end, and really wonderful
Speaker 1: issue of Fango that that was in. But one of
Speaker 1: my proudest and most excited moments was getting Barbara Ann
Speaker 1: on the phone and talking about that all because of Mondo,
Speaker 1: and Mondo is the only one who would touch a
Speaker 1: lot of what they have in their catalog, and I
Speaker 1: just adore them.
Speaker 2: Brian shares the sad news. He says, my understanding is
Speaker 2: there no elements for Lady Timmern or just that one print. However,
Speaker 2: they have seen to have said that they are hitting
Speaker 2: multiple roadblocks, so it seems like they're trying to get there.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if there's ever a way to get there,
Speaker 2: but I'll share the same hope that every time they
Speaker 2: started announcing stuff, I am dying for an upgrade to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely cannot wait and go Mondo.
Speaker 2: Yes, God, Manda Maccabero is always incredible. Next, we were
Speaker 2: talking about Dan Curtis before, and we got some details
Speaker 2: on the newest one. This is coming out December ninth.
Speaker 2: This is going to be number forty two in the
Speaker 2: Keno cult line, and it is Dan Curtis's Got the
Speaker 2: Tales from nineteen seventy three to seventy four. We've got
Speaker 2: introductions here by Jeff Thompson, We've got audio commentaries by
Speaker 2: David Delval Anthony Slide, and then the Turn of the
Speaker 2: Screw promotional short featuring interviews with Dan Curtis and Lynn Redgrave.
Speaker 2: I love that they're putting this work into these.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love that they're making them consistent even visually.
Speaker 1: That is creating a collection corner for people who love
Speaker 1: this stuff, and that Dan Curtis's films are finally getting
Speaker 1: I mean everyone knows him for the other thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's all this too, and I think it's just awesome
Speaker 1: that Keno is giving these the love and bringing on,
Speaker 1: like David Delval is always so great. Yeah, So a
Speaker 1: consistent voice over these different releases, I think that's important too.
Speaker 1: I did that with Nat Bremmer on the Umbrella, all
Speaker 1: of the Full Moon Umbrella stuff. I wanted NAT's voice
Speaker 1: throughout because like he's the authority, he's the historian, and
Speaker 1: so this kind of approach. It just shows that Keno's
Speaker 1: really putting love into it.
Speaker 2: Yep. I appreciate them for this. They made for TV
Speaker 2: stuff always overlooked, so the fact that we're getting it
Speaker 2: is a pretty big deal. Let's talk it. So December thirtieth,
Speaker 2: we can finally get Breakdown on four K outside of
Speaker 2: the Paramount Scares box set. This is from volume two. This.
Speaker 2: I think this had been released on its own in
Speaker 2: the UK already, right it has, Okay, so if you
Speaker 2: imported it you could have got it before. But now
Speaker 2: in the US you can get this on four K
Speaker 2: in December thirtieth on its own. Thing. Tell us about
Speaker 2: putting this together and the special features that are on here,
Speaker 2: because it's all you.
Speaker 1: It was the greatest, It was so amazing to get.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Mastaw, the director, was yeah, I agree. Did someone
Speaker 1: just say Dark Shadows should be on blu ray?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you imagine a Dark Shadows blue ray box set?
Speaker 2: How many discs would that be?
Speaker 1: My question is, can you imagine the expense to do
Speaker 1: new transfers on all those that they struggled with even before?
Speaker 1: And if they look so weird in that chubby coffin
Speaker 1: that they sell them in like they think that's gonna
Speaker 1: look cool on the shelf, but it's like Peter Griffin's coffin.
Speaker 1: What is happening over there? But anyway, breakdown. I love
Speaker 1: this movie. Yeah, well, I really really think this is
Speaker 1: one of the best Kurt Russell movies period and one
Speaker 1: of the best kind of action dramas of the era
Speaker 1: of its era. Quinlan, Kathleen, Quinlan is everybody, JT. Walsh,
Speaker 1: Everybody's so good in this movie. But it's not one
Speaker 1: because it's it's kind of overshadowed in the Russell verse.
Speaker 1: That's you can use that trademark real you can have
Speaker 1: that rund But within Kurt's catalog, this isn't one that
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people talk about. But when
Speaker 1: I talk to filmmakers people love this film, and getting
Speaker 1: to meet director Jonathan Mostow, who is so wonderful to
Speaker 1: deal with and very open about the whole process. We
Speaker 1: did a new I did a new interview with him,
Speaker 1: and then I brought him in Kurt together for audio commentary,
Speaker 1: which was a total thrill. I mean, like Kurt Russell
Speaker 1: showing up in the Paramount a lot and it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Elvis is in the building, and he
Speaker 1: played Elvis right for John Carpenter of all people, but
Speaker 1: it's like, Russell's here. Russell's here, and like the birds landed,
Speaker 1: and everybody was so jazzed for him to walk in there.
Speaker 1: I'm I love his commentaries, just full stop, but also
Speaker 1: his Carpenter. The Carpenter russell commentaries everyone knows are so magical,
Speaker 1: but it's everyone's like, oh, it's just their magic. Masta
Speaker 1: was kind of a buttoned up guy. He's sweet, he's
Speaker 1: so sincere, but he's not a real jokester, I guess,
Speaker 1: I'd say, But when Kurt walked in the room and
Speaker 1: they're sitting by each other, it just became laughs. In
Speaker 1: great stories and wonderful reveals about the whole thing. Kurt
Speaker 1: clearly hadn't seen the movie in a very long time,
Speaker 1: and he's like, what am I doing? What He's talking
Speaker 1: to the screen and making Jonathan laugh. It was magical
Speaker 1: to have them doing that together. And then the great
Speaker 1: honors of this one was getting Dino Dalearentis's widow, Martha
Speaker 1: Da Laurentis, in to do an interview, and she really
Speaker 1: had it brought a perspective to the table that I think,
Speaker 1: without Dino's presence would have been literally impossible. And I've
Speaker 1: ended up working on a bunch of Dino dale Lorentis
Speaker 1: films over the last like five years, like King Kong's
Speaker 1: seventy six. I mean, it's like, I think there's probably
Speaker 1: like six of them that I've done over that span.
Speaker 1: And so to have Martha come in and do that
Speaker 1: was so great and she was amazing, and then she
Speaker 1: sadly passed away just a couple months later, and it
Speaker 1: was so unexpected, and but we have her here right like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that she's on any other release, but
Speaker 1: we were lucky enough to bring her in for this.
Speaker 1: And then the great find Imprint had done a maybe
Speaker 1: I think it was a blu ray of breakdown that
Speaker 1: landed a few months, I think even before Hours did
Speaker 1: from Paramount, and there was talk of the alternate opening
Speaker 1: sequence on theirs, but all they had were like grainy
Speaker 1: screen caps of it. And I had the benefit, again,
Speaker 1: no magic on my part. I had the benefit of
Speaker 1: the amazing Paramount Archive team who were always down for
Speaker 1: the hunt, like, Okay, it doesn't matter if it's on
Speaker 1: our sheet, We're going to go look, we will open
Speaker 1: the vaults, we will literally go and dig. And I
Speaker 1: found that over and over with them the whole time,
Speaker 1: and that was one of the greatest joys of being
Speaker 1: part of that whole operation, was the Archive team. We're
Speaker 1: just warriors, warriors for the cause of preservation of this stuff.
Speaker 1: And so there was this alternate opening that the studio
Speaker 1: ultimately wanted Jonathan to shoot to spice up the beginning
Speaker 1: of the movie. We now look at that opening with
Speaker 1: the car in the desert, how the titles interplay with
Speaker 1: the shots and the row and it's just so perfect,
Speaker 1: and you think, God, how could this ever? Who would
Speaker 1: need to do something different with this? Well, what they
Speaker 1: wanted to do was Kurt Russell with a camera on
Speaker 1: his shoulder and this village where these women are being
Speaker 1: shot and all. It's just pure insanity, like it starts
Speaker 1: off like a Trouma movie almost, and Mostow hated it,
Speaker 1: but of course he told me he hated it during
Speaker 1: the interview, and I'm like, let's see if this exists,
Speaker 1: and then I go to the archive team and in
Speaker 1: short order they're like, yeah, we have everything. It's all here.
Speaker 1: And so it took some discussion with Jonathan and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: if we can present it where I can talk about it,
Speaker 1: like do a commentary over it, we can do this.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, psh, cool, all right. Paramount team is
Speaker 1: all like, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it safe.
Speaker 1: And so we did it. We got to present it,
Speaker 1: and there is an option to turn Jonathan's commentary on
Speaker 1: to hear him explain what they did, but also kind
Speaker 1: of why he didn't think it fit. I think everyone
Speaker 1: will agree with him on that, for sure, but one
Speaker 1: of the greatest releases of one of the best movies
Speaker 1: of that era, and certainly like Kurt Russell's whole catalog.
Speaker 1: Kathleen Quinlan. I had interviewed her on Twilight Zone years
Speaker 1: prior for a famous Monsters magazine, which I was nerding
Speaker 1: out about because I'm a big doors fan and being
Speaker 1: in the doors and I was, oh, man, this is amazing,
Speaker 1: and that same feeling was back again, and getting a
Speaker 1: chance to talk to her on breakdown. So the whole
Speaker 1: thing just a thrill, and it was done at the
Speaker 1: height of COVID. This was like the heart of when
Speaker 1: we couldn't really be in the same room. And even
Speaker 1: though Jonathan and Kurt were in the same room, they
Speaker 1: were on opposite ends of like a row of theater
Speaker 1: seats with one of those air purifier things, the big
Speaker 1: industrial ones in between them, silently chugging away to keep
Speaker 1: the air clean in the room. But it all worked
Speaker 1: out and it was an honor to be part of Incredible.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of those titles that for
Speaker 2: the longest time was not very easy to see. It's
Speaker 2: the same and you've done many of those that were
Speaker 2: not necessarily lost films, but they were films that you know,
Speaker 2: people knew it had a reputation, people wanted to see them,
Speaker 2: and you got to be a part of getting it
Speaker 2: back out of the zeitgeist, which has to be just
Speaker 2: an incredible feeling.
Speaker 1: Doesn't even seem real for real?
Speaker 2: All right? That is Breakdown December thirtieth. Next up one
Speaker 2: equal quality as Breakdown. Maybe we'll see December one. The
Speaker 2: four K is coming in the UK from Dazzler Media.
Speaker 2: Also coming up Blu ray of The Creeps from twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. When your top built actor in your film
Speaker 2: is Joe Dante.
Speaker 1: I was wondering why his name was up there. When
Speaker 1: I saw that cover, I was like, oh, yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: Joe Dante. Director Chris Lambert in a Snowman movie. What
Speaker 1: is this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Watch the trailer for this. You probably will not
Speaker 2: feel the urge to buy this, but it's happening there.
Speaker 1: It is right there.
Speaker 2: That's next Oscilloscope company that I love there putting out
Speaker 2: a Blu ray of this film that I don't know
Speaker 2: how to pronounce the title signave that's wrong, I don't
Speaker 2: know this is from last year. This is coming on
Speaker 2: Blu Range DVD. Like I said, this says the highs
Speaker 2: and lows of a restless youth collide headlong into the
Speaker 2: concrete realities of adulthood. When Leonardo, a teenager from Palermo,
Speaker 2: leaves home for the first time, his studies land him
Speaker 2: in Siena by way of London, where he clashes with
Speaker 2: his instructor, the curriculum, and most chaotically with himself. This
Speaker 2: is produced by Luca Guadaninho, who just released a film
Speaker 2: that seems like the whole world hates right now. This
Speaker 2: has deleted scenes in the trailer on the disc and
Speaker 2: I will hopefully beginning this is part of my subscription
Speaker 2: here soon. Love Oscilloscope, love what they do. Any thoughts
Speaker 2: from you.
Speaker 1: No go Selloscope like what they're doing as well. I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has to be like a small festival film.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of this at all. Criterion just had
Speaker 2: a flash sale, but it's pointless because it's over, so
Speaker 2: we'll gloss right over there. I love this next set
Speaker 2: of announcements. So a Kino had announced previously and not
Speaker 2: too long ago. This is one of those ones that
Speaker 2: had a fairly quick turnaround. Thank you Kino. We do
Speaker 2: love to see the quick turnaround of the Pink Panther films.
Speaker 2: These are coming to four K and Blu Ray here
Speaker 2: in the US, all on December sixteenth, and we're going
Speaker 2: to cover all four However, before you start asking, they
Speaker 2: are putting out a box set of all of these
Speaker 2: plus Return of the Pink Panther all together, all on
Speaker 2: four K in twenty twenty six. They're just letting them
Speaker 2: live and breathe on their own as single releases first,
Speaker 2: so if you want to be patient, you can pick
Speaker 2: up a box set next year of all five of
Speaker 2: the films. As far as extras, they got all kinds
Speaker 2: of extras on these. How many of them are new?
Speaker 2: I count zero of them as being new. However, it's
Speaker 2: just really great to see them in print again. And
Speaker 2: not to mention, these will absolutely look really good in
Speaker 2: four K. Are you a Pink Panther fit? Have you
Speaker 2: ever checked out anything?
Speaker 1: I was so disappointed when I was a kid and
Speaker 1: heard that there was a Pink Panther movie because Pink
Speaker 1: Panther when I was a kid sold insulation.
Speaker 2: Yep, that was the remember.
Speaker 1: The understanding of Pink Panther. And then I saw the
Speaker 1: art for this and I'm like, huh, well, this looks
Speaker 1: like something with the Pink Panther in it.
Speaker 2: Nope, so quite different.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I need to revisit them. I guess
Speaker 1: I've seen the first one, but I know that they
Speaker 1: are revered, and it's great that once again Keino is
Speaker 1: swinging into the rescue of some underserved titles.
Speaker 2: So this is the first one, of course, this is
Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty three. The second film is A Shot
Speaker 2: in the Dark. This is the one I remember truly loving.
Speaker 2: I think this is the funniest of all of them,
Speaker 2: if I remember right, and we're talking like slapstick comedy,
Speaker 2: like really great classic Peter Sellers. I have not seen
Speaker 2: this in ages, but I am eager to see it
Speaker 2: again again. They're carrying over all kinds of extras from
Speaker 2: the previous releases. We've got audio commentaries, we've got featurettes,
Speaker 2: we've got interviews. They look like great releases. The third one,
Speaker 2: of course, is The Pink Panther Strikes Again. This is
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six. Reversible art on all these as well,
Speaker 2: which is pretty neat from Keino. Love that they're doing
Speaker 2: those again. All kinds of old extras on these. And
Speaker 2: then the final one, Revenge of the Pink Panther from
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight. Not as many extras on this one.
Speaker 2: There just wasn't as much on the previous releases, but
Speaker 2: it does have an audio commentary, has some TV spots
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Yeah, December sixteenth, it's going to
Speaker 2: be a busy day if you love the pink panther
Speaker 2: full Moon, who Justin has worked on many things related
Speaker 2: to full Moon. They are currently running their Halloween sale
Speaker 2: up to fifty percent off sitewide and a cool thing
Speaker 2: that they don't always do. If you spend a certain thresholds,
Speaker 2: you get some free gifts. If you spend one hundred bucks,
Speaker 2: you get two of their tiny tears. If you spend
Speaker 2: two hundred bucks, you get a plush doll set. You
Speaker 2: spend four hundred, you get a full bobblehead collection, and
Speaker 2: if you spend five hundred, you get a baby Oopsie
Speaker 2: full on replica. Now all of these have to be
Speaker 2: in one single purchase, so it's not combining if you
Speaker 2: buy multiple things. If you want to go for the
Speaker 2: free thing, make sure you get it all at once.
Speaker 2: My link for the sale if you want to check
Speaker 2: that out, and another tab is in the chat there,
Speaker 2: full Moon. What are some of your highest recommendations from
Speaker 2: full Moon's catalog there?
Speaker 1: Justin? Well, I remember when full Moon was doing they
Speaker 1: would they were trying to push people for their online
Speaker 1: streaming thing yep, and they would it would be like,
Speaker 1: if you subscribe for a month and you can get
Speaker 1: like one hundred dollars in free DVDs and we raised
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Oh yeah, my buddy Greg Morgan
Speaker 1: from Land of the Creeps. I remember him calling me
Speaker 1: up one day and he's like, it's real. I did
Speaker 1: it and the disc showed up. There wasn't like a
Speaker 1: cancelation notice. I didn't have to subscribe for a whole
Speaker 1: year or something. It was just insane how they were
Speaker 1: just shoveling stuff out with this perpetual sale at that
Speaker 1: point of that stuff. But I have so much admiration
Speaker 1: for Charlie and he. As John Carpenter said years ago
Speaker 1: to me when I did this sort of stream of
Speaker 1: consciousness career spanning discussion with him for the Fangoria Legends magazine,
Speaker 1: I would just say a name or a place or
Speaker 1: a film title or whatever, and then he would just
Speaker 1: tell me the first thing that came to his mind.
Speaker 1: And I said, Charlie banned, and John goes, when the
Speaker 1: apocalypse happens, there will be two things left on this earth.
Speaker 1: There will be cockroaches will be Charlie band and I
Speaker 1: don't know, and I don't think he was comparing Charlie
Speaker 1: to a cockroach necessarily, although I don't want to speak
Speaker 1: for John, but his endurance is just remarkable, and getting
Speaker 1: the chance to work on all this Full Moon stuff
Speaker 1: through Umbrella has been a blast. And so many of
Speaker 1: the people that I'm tapping on the shoulder to come
Speaker 1: in for interviews are like, I cannot believe this is
Speaker 1: getting re released. I can't believe people still care about
Speaker 1: And I hear that all the time about a lot
Speaker 1: of titles, but with the Full Moon stuff, it's just
Speaker 1: remarkable how he keeps doing his thing, and how consistent
Speaker 1: he is with his focus on small things and his
Speaker 1: love for dolls. I think is worth applauding. I don't
Speaker 1: know where do I start with the Full Moon catalog.
Speaker 1: I would point to early movies. I would point to
Speaker 1: his early stuff. I just finished working on Tourist Trap,
Speaker 1: for example. I think that one is a real big standout,
Speaker 1: especially in their earlier catalog, for what Charlie was doing.
Speaker 1: Although it's not Full Moon proper, it's Charlie Band production.
Speaker 1: There are spikes in every If you want to say
Speaker 1: decade or maybe even break it down by like genre
Speaker 1: run or subgenre run. There's spikes of good stuff in
Speaker 1: there throughout, and I think Tourist Trap was an early whoa,
Speaker 1: you got Ted Nicolau, you got David Schmoller, I mean
Speaker 1: Chuck Connors for that booklet. For the booklet, I did
Speaker 1: this exhaustive essay on Chuck because I love him so much.
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite all time actors, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: when else am I going to get the chance to
Speaker 1: talk about Chuck? And so I did an entire life
Speaker 1: story of Chuck Connors for that booklet, and it turned
Speaker 1: out really a loving tribute to the guy. But anyway,
Speaker 1: the Full Moon catalog, I mean can't say I'm down
Speaker 1: with Ginger weed Man and whatever all the stuff, but
Speaker 1: I do like a lot of it, and especially their
Speaker 1: early things, and I will always admire the audacity. And
Speaker 1: it must be said, when I did the first Full
Speaker 1: Moon box set for Umbrella, the one special feature and
Speaker 1: the thing that I applaud Charlie the most for, I
Speaker 1: had to do something on the video zones. For those
Speaker 1: who might not remember, at the end of Full Moon
Speaker 1: videotapes back in the day, you'd finish watching the film,
Speaker 1: you let it keep running, and there's a video magazine
Speaker 1: I guess you'd call it. That would be at the
Speaker 1: end of the movie talking about the movie you just saw,
Speaker 1: so like the making of the movie you just saw,
Speaker 1: and then teasers and behind the scenes for upcoming films.
Speaker 1: And it was revolutionary because the laser disc really ultimately
Speaker 1: gave way to the special feature I think, being tethered
Speaker 1: to these movies in the first place, but Charlie, through
Speaker 1: his partnership with Paramount in their checkbook until it wasn't, Charlie,
Speaker 1: to his credit, came up with this idea to offer
Speaker 1: people so much more and watching through those video zones,
Speaker 1: even the ads that he had on there for the
Speaker 1: merch This stuff is nothing new which you have up
Speaker 1: here on the screen, like dolls and toys and whatever else.
Speaker 1: He's been doing that from the very beginning. He's always
Speaker 1: been a big picture guy who does some pretty inventive
Speaker 1: and absolutely bold things with what he's doing and unapologetically.
Speaker 1: So I'm always going to applaud that.
Speaker 2: I've always loved tourist trap. I'm glad you brought that
Speaker 2: one up. And then the other one that I always champion.
Speaker 2: Feel like most people have heard of but never seen.
Speaker 2: Castle Freak is still one of my favorites. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: adore that movie.
Speaker 1: Oh it's great and the effects are so good in
Speaker 1: that too. Everybody's great in that film and making good
Speaker 1: use of that castle. I mean everything I've touched that's
Speaker 1: from Full Moon. There was the filmmakers that he was
Speaker 1: often bringing in. We're approaching this with such sincerity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like.
Speaker 1: If you watch through the special features on those first
Speaker 1: two Full Moon box sets from Umbrella, you really start
Speaker 1: to understand the universe of Charlie Band beyond just the
Speaker 1: sort of marketing guy and the whatever else. Like, there
Speaker 1: was an objective, however accidental or intentional, to bring fresh
Speaker 1: talent in over and over and over again, and those
Speaker 1: films also became a it was kind of like the
Speaker 1: incubator for a lot of special effects artists.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: It's like what Roger Corman did with he bringing someone in. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: maybe you're not ready to direct yet, start cutting trailers
Speaker 1: for me, and then let's talk in six months and
Speaker 1: then we get look at the lineup of filmmakers from
Speaker 1: that school.
Speaker 2: And speaking of Joe Dante, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: And it's not as celebrated, but I do think it's
Speaker 1: worth being It's worth acknowledging that Charlie Band was very
Speaker 1: similar in his sort of talent factory where he would
Speaker 1: hire people who other studios might not and ended up
Speaker 1: giving them some opportunities that absolutely blossomed in a lot
Speaker 1: of cases. So hats off to him what he does.
Speaker 2: Next. Up, speaking of Umbrella got their brand new announcements
Speaker 2: February fourth. We got a four kve from them coming
Speaker 2: of Schiansno's Suicide Club from two thousand and one. This
Speaker 2: has some new extras. Wee have a new audio commentary
Speaker 2: by Aerol Shutson. We've got a new Suicide Club with
Speaker 2: special effects guru Yoshihiro Nishimura. There's a Justice There or
Speaker 2: How I Learned to Stop Worring and Love Suicide Club
Speaker 2: with Alexander Heller Nicholas looks like an incredible special edition
Speaker 2: of this. I will say there is a four K
Speaker 2: of this that came out from I want to say,
Speaker 2: in France or Germany or somebody like that, and this
Speaker 2: is likely going to be the same scan of that
Speaker 2: four K, because I believe the elements are gone for
Speaker 2: this one, and that thing did not get great reviews. However,
Speaker 2: if you love this movie, this is probably gonna be
Speaker 2: the best packaging this will get. This will probably be
Speaker 2: the best special features this gets. This will probably be
Speaker 2: the be all end all of this film. And if
Speaker 2: you already have the Discothech Blu ray, I just take
Speaker 2: that Blu ray and if you want this, put it
Speaker 2: in the case with this, and you got pretty much
Speaker 2: a definitive release of Suicide Club.
Speaker 1: I love that movie and I wish I would have
Speaker 1: been on that release through Umbrella. It's so good. I
Speaker 1: still have my old DVD. I have not gotten those
Speaker 1: other releases of it, So this will be great for me.
Speaker 2: And new for me absolutely. Next up is one that
Speaker 2: they've been hyping up through their social media for quite
Speaker 2: some time, Lesbian Space Princess from this year, I believe
Speaker 2: is a animated film. All kinds of extras on here
Speaker 2: because this is one that they produced from the ground up.
Speaker 2: They're selling a sexy bitch sweatshirt.
Speaker 1: As much as I was laughing at it, I love it.
Speaker 2: I love Umbrella getting interesting with all of these releases
Speaker 2: and just doing what they can. Yeah, this looks like
Speaker 2: a completely loaded release for something that usually would not
Speaker 2: get even a small release, and This is huge for
Speaker 2: this Blu ray released on January fourteenth. Looks fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Next up this one is February fourth Blu Ray release
Speaker 2: of The Horseman from two thousand and eight. I have
Speaker 2: always heard this is great and have somehow always passed
Speaker 2: by it. I need to see this one. You get
Speaker 2: the Collector's edition and as usually, you get a big
Speaker 2: forty eight page book and all kinds of custom art
Speaker 2: cards and posters and slip case and numbered everything. New
Speaker 2: audio commentary with Alexei Tali, Choleapolis that maybe and Blake Howard,
Speaker 2: and then there is going to be The Horseman in
Speaker 2: the Australian noir genre with the screenwriter and author Maria
Speaker 2: Lewis making of the Horsemen Director's cut remaster, new director's
Speaker 2: cut trailer, and then all kinds of archival extras with
Speaker 2: this one pretty loaded. Have you seen this one?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's excellent and this from what I understand this
Speaker 1: is the transfer on this is outstanding and so I
Speaker 1: cannot wait to get my hands on this one. It's
Speaker 1: a great movie.
Speaker 2: I need to get it. I've heard it's stupendous and yep,
Speaker 2: already some good comments in the chat. Had the original
Speaker 2: Umbrella DVD nice. Next up from them is The Innkeepers.
Speaker 2: This is coming on Blu Ray on February fourth, and
Speaker 2: this already has a four K release, so Umbrella just
Speaker 2: probably thinking they're not gonna be able to sell a
Speaker 2: ton of these. Four K is going to be expensive
Speaker 2: to invest if you're not going to sell a ton
Speaker 2: of them, so you can get a special edition of this,
Speaker 2: and it looks like a really fun release. You had
Speaker 2: a new audio commentary with Alexander Heller Nicholas, who is
Speaker 2: on seemingly like forty new releases a week, so not
Speaker 2: surprised there, and then Martin Kataro on The Innkeepers is
Speaker 2: doing a visual essay, and then another handful of archival extras.
Speaker 2: I love Ty West. Are you a Ti West person?
Speaker 1: Ty West? Ty West is good, He's okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan. But I do want to
Speaker 1: speak here to the Blu Ray four K thing that
Speaker 1: there are occasions and I'm not saying that is the
Speaker 1: case with this, because it's not something that they've discussed
Speaker 1: with me, but there are cases where the license for
Speaker 1: a four K release may already spoken for, so it's
Speaker 1: not always possible. And then also if there's an element issue,
Speaker 1: if there's something where they can't get to the point
Speaker 1: to justify the four K in terms of available materials.
Speaker 1: This goes for all distributors, all labels that it just
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense just to upscale something. And so in
Speaker 1: that kind of a case, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: dealer is with Innkeepers, but I.
Speaker 2: Don't think this was even shot on film. And to
Speaker 2: be honest, a lot of like the early digital from
Speaker 2: you know, two thousand and four to like twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: a lot of those you got a question if a
Speaker 2: four K is going to do anything right, literally, you know,
Speaker 2: not even just hey, the colors will be nicer, Like
Speaker 2: will it actually improve anything to put this on four
Speaker 2: K instead of Blu ray? In many cases it really.
Speaker 1: Will not sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that is the Innkeepers from twenty eleven, and
Speaker 2: then next up I am so keen to see this one.
Speaker 2: This is already the second release announcement of this too.
Speaker 2: February fourth, they're putting out chain reactions from twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: We were talking about Alexander Heller Nicholss. She is heavily
Speaker 2: featured in this film itself. This is a documentary about
Speaker 2: the impact of the Texas Chainsaw Masker, which by far
Speaker 2: one of the most impactful horror films of all time.
Speaker 2: This release is going to have an audio commentary with
Speaker 2: the directors, discussion with the director and with Alexander Heller Nicholas.
Speaker 2: I have not been able to see this one yet.
Speaker 2: Have you been able to see this? Probably not.
Speaker 1: I saw part of it because I went to the
Speaker 1: anniversary theatrical re release of Chainsaw, where it was like
Speaker 1: maybe one or two days or something on the anniversary
Speaker 1: of the film, and they showed the after Chainsaw was done,
Speaker 1: this like a portion of this played, and so I
Speaker 1: did get to see some of it. And I'm always
Speaker 1: down for more Chainsaw. I've been so happy to see
Speaker 1: the four K re releases that Ero's been doing too.
Speaker 1: Of the Arlely Ermi films, I love the second one
Speaker 1: in particular. I think beginning is I really, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're both good, but I think the Beginning is even
Speaker 1: better than the Yeah, the first one. There anyway, more Chainsaw,
Speaker 1: the better, says I. And there can't be enough exploration.
Speaker 1: And there's some great documentaries vintage documentaries on the film
Speaker 1: already that are pretty incredible. But why not.
Speaker 2: For those that have not heard about this one yet.
Speaker 2: So this is a documentary built on the reactions rough
Speaker 2: these names on Here is christ Now, Stephen King, Patton Oswald,
Speaker 2: Karm Kusama, Takashi mik and Alexander Heller Nicholas like all
Speaker 2: corners of the film industry in different ways, all like
Speaker 2: different age groups, different different types of filmmakers, all coming
Speaker 2: together to talk about how it impacted them. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: got to see this.
Speaker 1: This looks just The first voice you hear in the
Speaker 1: film is Patton Oswald. I'm sitting there going wait, what
Speaker 1: what is happening here? I mean, it was really like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is interesting because you think about comedians and their
Speaker 1: dark side and we're all inspired by such an array
Speaker 1: of things. Why not bring him in here? And it
Speaker 1: was really It starts with a clip of him on
Speaker 1: Latterman or something like that, or maybe Conan O'Brien and
Speaker 1: he brings Chainsaw up of all movies as like his
Speaker 1: favorite film of all time, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: he is a lover of this movie. That's like when
Speaker 1: I did Bad News Bears for Paramount and Kevin Smith
Speaker 1: wanted to be on the disc talking about Bad News
Speaker 1: bears because it was the movie that made him want
Speaker 1: to be a filmmaker. And he's crying to me during
Speaker 1: the interview and stuff. I mean, it was remarkable. So
Speaker 1: when these folks who have made it reach out to
Speaker 1: continue paying it back to the source that led them
Speaker 1: to whatever they're doing, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so stoked that they I mean, just the
Speaker 2: passion that screams off the screen for this, I can't
Speaker 2: Next up is Eureka.
Speaker 1: Gosh.
Speaker 2: That means the rest of all these were just today announced,
Speaker 2: so we got a lot to cover. January twenty sixth
Speaker 2: in the UK, there's a Blu Ray coming double feature
Speaker 2: of Kyoshi Kurosawa films. We've got Charisma, which is from
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, and that is paired up with Clout,
Speaker 2: which is the brand new film that's out. Original release
Speaker 2: was last year. It's on the Criteria channel right now.
Speaker 2: Heard incredible things about Cloud. We'll be watching that one
Speaker 2: soon myself. We got a limited edition booklet in this
Speaker 2: one with writing. There is going to be new commentaries
Speaker 2: on both films by Jonathan Roots. There's gonna be new
Speaker 2: visual essay on the work of Kyoshi Kirosawa by Joe Hinkenbottom.
Speaker 2: But the big thing is this limited edition will include Cloud.
Speaker 2: The future standard release will not, So if you want
Speaker 2: Cloud as part of the release, you got to pick
Speaker 2: it up as part of those first two thousand copies.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Cloud? Or are you this Kurosawa type
Speaker 2: of person.
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with this Kirasawa.
Speaker 2: No, he's a have you ever seen Cures? That's his
Speaker 2: most famous film from was it ninety seven? I think
Speaker 2: big psychological horror film. Okay, so I got a big
Speaker 2: fan base. Check it out. Great, I'm eager to see charisma.
Speaker 2: I've heard good things this one. I'm sure you got
Speaker 2: some stuff to say about. Nineteen eighty one's Full Moon High,
Speaker 2: directed by Larry Cohen, coming on Blue Ret in the
Speaker 2: UK on January nineteenth. This is a horror comedy film
Speaker 2: that came out right before Teen Wolf. This is a
Speaker 2: loving tribute to teenage monster movies of the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2: You've got let's see limited edition booklet with new writing
Speaker 2: by Craig ian Mann. We've got a new commentary by
Speaker 2: Steve Mitchell, archival commentary with Lary Cone himself, new visual
Speaker 2: essay on the History and Evolution of the teenage Werewolf
Speaker 2: films by Kaja Frank, the author of the ego Gothic
Speaker 2: Werewolf in Literature. Love that new interview with Michael Doyle.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Full Moon High?
Speaker 1: I have not. I have not. I'm going to bring
Speaker 1: up another thing here though, that I think that there
Speaker 1: was a show called Big Wolf on Campus that was
Speaker 1: on in the two thousands and it was a Canadian production.
Speaker 1: I love that show so much, and I don't know
Speaker 1: that it's ever gotten any kind of physical release anywhere.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad this is happening. Maybe it's going to
Speaker 1: open the door for Big Wolf on Campus to finally
Speaker 1: get a proper release.
Speaker 2: That's all the world excited about werewolf things, and.
Speaker 1: Let's talk and teen werewolves.
Speaker 2: Let's do it YEP next January twenty sixth, then the
Speaker 2: UK January twenty seventh. In North America on Blu Ray
Speaker 2: is Stephen Chow's King of the Beggars from nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: two or King of Beggars. This one is going to
Speaker 2: have a brand new writing on King of Beggars and
Speaker 2: the director Gordon chan by Andy Willis. There's going to
Speaker 2: be new audio commentary with Frank Jang, a new interview
Speaker 2: with the director Gordon Chan, new visual essay by Gary Betinson.
Speaker 2: Are you are you much of a martial arts person.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen you talk about these.
Speaker 1: No, not really. I did some work on a I
Speaker 1: had to redo the audio on a martial arts film
Speaker 1: when I was with Terror Vision, which was a logistical minefield.
Speaker 2: It was a nightmare on that one.
Speaker 1: That's what I have to say about that. But it
Speaker 1: worked out in the end. But it happened to mix
Speaker 1: every It's a challenge when you got a good ninety
Speaker 1: minutes of that to go through. But now, I mean
Speaker 1: I like Weird the Stranger the better, Like I like
Speaker 1: Mister Vampire, end of things. In terms of martial arts,
Speaker 1: I like The Bride with White Hair a lot good.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorites. But I but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not like a studied.
Speaker 2: Scholar speaking of films with bad four k's a good
Speaker 2: blue rays. The Bride with White Hair got a four
Speaker 2: K and it's not good. Cheer if you want that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on to my discs, huh, hold on to
Speaker 1: it all right? That happened with Island of Lost Souls.
Speaker 1: Do you remember how terrible the Criterion Island a Loss
Speaker 1: Souls was. Yeah, I couldn't believe how awful that looked.
Speaker 2: Yep, that that seems to be something that some of
Speaker 2: these get real bad reputations. And then just everybody says, yep,
Speaker 2: don't buy that one. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Next
Speaker 2: December ninth, Sony, as a part of their Sony Pictures
Speaker 2: Classics line, is putting out last year's I'm Still Here,
Speaker 2: which I ashamedly i've still not seen. I've heard this
Speaker 2: is incredible and went by me. I need to watch it.
Speaker 2: Still hurt. It's amazing. This is a big, big breakout
Speaker 2: for Fernando Torres. She's supposedly incredible in this. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: need to see this. The next release is probably one
Speaker 2: that we can both speak on Hearts of Darkness from
Speaker 2: ninety one and getting a four K release here in
Speaker 2: the US from Lionsgate. This isn't too big of a surprise.
Speaker 2: Studio Canal just put this out in like one of
Speaker 2: their fancy giant box sets in the UK. However, this release,
Speaker 2: I gotta ask, what is up with the Coppola arm
Speaker 2: pit sniffing cover art? That we went west.
Speaker 1: It's so bizarre. When I first saw it, I thought
Speaker 1: it was someone had was making fun of it somehow
Speaker 1: and they had thrown that on there. That's so weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get this, and I still think it's
Speaker 2: wild that a film that was essentially a special feature
Speaker 2: for years is now getting standalone four K releases. Obviously
Speaker 2: it's great. That gives hope to us all it does,
Speaker 2: it truly does.
Speaker 1: There is Yeah, anyway, these things.
Speaker 2: Live and die.
Speaker 1: They live on islands usually, and it's always exciting, I
Speaker 1: will say, as a producer to see when something carries forward,
Speaker 1: yeah to another release with some other company. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't benefit from it, but the legacy of the film,
Speaker 1: the stories that were told, those voices, move on with it,
Speaker 1: and that's how it should be.
Speaker 2: That's really I've already seen that and been blown away that,
Speaker 2: you know, a special feature that we worked on is
Speaker 2: gonna be on disk in Germany just for some other
Speaker 2: company licenses.
Speaker 1: Wild Like, okay, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: December eighth, over in the UK, one to one film
Speaker 2: speaking of Full Moon is putting out Sorority Babes in
Speaker 2: the slime Ball Bowl of Rama. This is a title
Speaker 2: that a lot of UK people have wanted for quite
Speaker 2: some time. And what I think is hilarious is recently
Speaker 2: a sequel came out to this full full sequel to
Speaker 2: this and it's so bad that it is included as
Speaker 2: a special feature and did not get billing as part
Speaker 2: of the release whatsoever. That is from twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: and yes you can get that as part of this package.
Speaker 1: Oh that has my special features on it. Yeah, see
Speaker 1: that's exactly what we're talking about. That's the stuff from
Speaker 1: the Those are my features. I didn't I hadn't seen this.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Well thanks, that's all the stuff I did
Speaker 1: for the full Moon box set release. A Sorority Babes
Speaker 1: is on there, so tell us about it.
Speaker 2: What did you get to do?
Speaker 1: Brink Stevens the the nat I got gnat on there
Speaker 1: with his commentary we did in the in the booklet
Speaker 1: has a whole bunch of great stuff in it, So
Speaker 1: I mean it's the the news stuff is Cerebral screen Queen,
Speaker 1: that's mine. Sorority Babes two was not on ours. I
Speaker 1: don't think that worked out for our release, so it's
Speaker 1: basically the commentary the Brink Stevens thing and then the booklet,
Speaker 1: and I think the Umbrella release may have had a
Speaker 1: couple more features on it, but anyway, it's nice to
Speaker 1: see it move on and like we were saying, good.
Speaker 2: Release, I believe like I said, I think this is
Speaker 2: the first UK release at least an HD of this film,
Speaker 2: and it's fun. I think the hard part for this
Speaker 2: movie is everybody sees the poster that's pretty iconic for
Speaker 2: this and goes, yeah, like we got three screen queens,
Speaker 2: this is gonna be sleazy, and then it's it's a
Speaker 2: pretty tame film. Overall.
Speaker 1: The beginning isn't yeah as some but I love this
Speaker 1: movie so fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so eighty soaked in neon and just incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Cineverse is putting out Bleeding from this year on Blu
Speaker 2: Ray in November fourth. This is gonna have an audio commentary,
Speaker 2: some auditions, footage, festival trailer, and a short film included
Speaker 2: with this. This was a screen box film and Bloody
Speaker 2: Disgusting is help putting this out through Cineverse. I again
Speaker 2: just will always be happy to see streaming titles come
Speaker 2: out on disc for something like this, because this could
Speaker 2: have just lived on screen Box forever and not gone
Speaker 2: anywhere else. So it's a it's a win.
Speaker 1: It is there's so much that's being left into the
Speaker 1: like in the void in terms of things that were
Speaker 1: made for Amazon and for Netflix, and it's just a
Speaker 1: it's a real shame there's a Chainsaw Massacre movie that
Speaker 1: doesn't have a legitimate physical release. Do you think fans
Speaker 1: aren't gonna want that? Some of the I worked on
Speaker 1: a few titles for Paramount and Blumhouse that were really
Speaker 1: great films. One of them called The Passenger with Kyle Gallner.
Speaker 1: Kyle is out just outstanding in that movie.
Speaker 2: I've got a bootleg of it right over there, so
Speaker 2: do I.
Speaker 1: And I made this. It was amazing projects to be
Speaker 1: part of and the proud of the documentaries. And to
Speaker 1: his credit, Kyle is I never hear from people usually,
Speaker 1: especially when there's like an ePK team that I'm running
Speaker 1: and they're shooting stuff and I'm not actually on set
Speaker 1: but I'm cutting, and but they had to send for
Speaker 1: approval to the people who were in the film on
Speaker 1: the documentary, and Kyle wrote to me and he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I never see these actually happen. There's always cruise around,
Speaker 1: but I never see the result of it. And he
Speaker 1: was so happy about how the documentary ended out. And
Speaker 1: now Ryan, it's invisible. It's nowhere it was supposed to
Speaker 1: live with the film wherever it was on Apple or
Speaker 1: whatever the hell else. It's like it never existed in
Speaker 1: the first place. And those movies, too, they're very hard
Speaker 1: to find. And the documentaries I did on these things
Speaker 1: are just dead and that's heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: You got a private link for that doc you can
Speaker 2: share it. I would love to see it.
Speaker 1: Talk to me after the show.
Speaker 2: Will do Next up, we talked about Monta Micabro. Second
Speaker 2: title is a double feature of Mystics and Bali and
Speaker 2: Queens of Black Magic, two films that had previous releases
Speaker 2: from Mondo on DVD that again, they weren't terrible DVDs necessarily,
Speaker 2: but they weren't great, and everybody loves these films, so
Speaker 2: to see them get an HD release is just fantastic.
Speaker 2: They are both getting their own disc in this, and
Speaker 2: they're both going to look just incredible. Jared was already
Speaker 2: telling me the scans on these are older. But if
Speaker 2: you ever saw the release of The Warrior that came out,
Speaker 2: I think that was last year. That was a twenty
Speaker 2: year old HD scan that they put on disc, and
Speaker 2: it still looks like it was just done. It's that
Speaker 2: good of a scan on it. And they're doing the
Speaker 2: same thing with these. They supposedly look amazing. This is
Speaker 2: going to be a two disc set with an exclusive
Speaker 2: slipcover and reversible inner sleeve. You've got all kinds of
Speaker 2: extras on here. Introductions to both films by Joko Anwar,
Speaker 2: another great Indonesian filmmaker that's been You've probably seen at
Speaker 2: least one of his films on Shutter Visual essay called
Speaker 2: Monsters Movies, A myth by Jake Gallo, extended two hour
Speaker 2: version of Mystics in Bali, which is going to have
Speaker 2: I think it's SD cut ins from like the only
Speaker 2: like tape master that exists of them, But at least
Speaker 2: you'll be able to have it if you want. I
Speaker 2: love both of these movies. I do too, great great
Speaker 2: stuff from Monto. Colden says, I'm excited every time I
Speaker 2: add a Suzanna film to myself shelf, and you should
Speaker 2: be absolutely What a way to follow that up by
Speaker 2: The Slayer Man coming to Blu Ray now. This is
Speaker 2: now available in the US from somebody called Vantage Media.
Speaker 2: Not sure who those guys are. I'll get a trailer, featurette,
Speaker 2: commentary track, and a music video. But hey, this exists
Speaker 2: on HD here in the US.
Speaker 1: All right, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: I love that the catchphrase on the front is he
Speaker 2: is what he Is? You love that classic Popeye I
Speaker 2: Am what I Am? It is. They're trying to make
Speaker 2: it intimidating, and he is what he Is is what
Speaker 2: they chose to go with. It's just not intimidating. I've
Speaker 2: also heard this one is incredible. Goldwyn Films putting out
Speaker 2: the Canamani Cristo from last year on four K here
Speaker 2: in the US on November eleventh. Nowhere on extras or
Speaker 2: goldbi Vision or anything like that. But it's getting a
Speaker 2: four K Supposedly this movie is beautiful. I know that
Speaker 2: everybody loves the old Jim cavizl Knamani Crust Monty Cristo.
Speaker 2: If you watch the trailer for this, it looks almost
Speaker 2: like a shot for shot, like it is beautifully shot
Speaker 2: like that. This to me seems like it's quite worth
Speaker 2: looking out for. Wow. Well, go USA putting out The
Speaker 2: Mannequin on October twenty eighth on Blue Rain DVD. Here
Speaker 2: in the US, this sounds very odd. It says, when
Speaker 2: an aspiring fashion designer mysteriously dies alone, most people accept
Speaker 2: it as a tragic suicide. Her sister remains unconvinced and
Speaker 2: returns to the historic building to investigate, but unsettling paranormal
Speaker 2: experiences quickly escalate. Leanna discovers this Los Angeles site holds
Speaker 2: a terrible secret. It is haunted by a killer who
Speaker 2: brutally holds a tear or sorry, who brutally murdered and
Speaker 2: dismembered his victims decades ago. She and her friends must
Speaker 2: escape the ghosts deadly grasp before they lose their own
Speaker 2: limbs and lives. This is a wild cover on this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's striking. I saw it today for the first
Speaker 1: time and I was like, WHOA, what is this?
Speaker 2: I appreciate well go USA for getting releases for so
Speaker 2: many films that would not get any releases at all.
Speaker 2: Are you have you checked out anything from them or
Speaker 2: are you keeping up with any of the stuff that
Speaker 2: they're doing.
Speaker 1: I haven't. No, I mean I may have something, but
Speaker 1: I'm not. I certainly have not been keeping up on
Speaker 1: their catalog or anything. Like that. They have a weird name.
Speaker 2: They do. They're an interesting company.
Speaker 1: I mean, they do the phantasm stuff. They did the fantasm.
Speaker 2: They did I think just the first one, or did
Speaker 2: they do the box.
Speaker 1: That they did them in a box that had the
Speaker 1: they did.
Speaker 2: That's right, and then they did I think just the
Speaker 2: first one on four K after that.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's when they landed on my radars with that,
Speaker 1: So that may be the only thing I have from them,
Speaker 1: might be, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing they focused. Like ninety two
Speaker 2: percent of their output is really great modern Asian cinema,
Speaker 2: and then the rest is fantasm or the mannequin like
Speaker 2: so many of this is just odd mixture in the
Speaker 2: rest of this pretty prestige catalog.
Speaker 1: What they're doing, Well, maybe that tells us we can
Speaker 1: trust in checking this out.
Speaker 2: I mean that's true. Well, speaking of Prestige nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: five's Babe coming on four K on December sixteenth, from Kena.
Speaker 2: Lber that was said, without any sort of irony, I
Speaker 2: love this movie. New audio commentary by Julie Kruego and
Speaker 2: Peter Hancoff on this there is also a brand new
Speaker 2: interview with James Cromwell on this disc from twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: brand new interview. Yeah, and it's eighteen minutes long. Like
Speaker 2: that is incredible. There's also a new interview with George Miller.
Speaker 2: Keno does not put a ton of effort into some discs,
Speaker 2: But the fact that they went out and got two
Speaker 2: brand new interviews with two people that, let's be honest,
Speaker 2: probably won't be around all that much longer for either
Speaker 2: of them. I love that they did it, and I
Speaker 2: love that they did it for Babe, Like this was
Speaker 2: a huge thing, and the next one that we're about
Speaker 2: to talk about was a huge thing on top of
Speaker 2: this huge thing. But nineteen ninety five's Babe, and then
Speaker 2: on the same day, nineteen ninety eight, it's Babe Pig
Speaker 2: in the City City also getting a four K.
Speaker 1: Babe takes Manhattan.
Speaker 2: Another new interview with Georgie Miller on this one another
Speaker 2: new commentary, or do you have nostalgia for these? Were
Speaker 2: these ones that you loved?
Speaker 1: I remember seeing the first one in the theater with
Speaker 1: my brother and h but and I liked it.
Speaker 2: It's cute, it is it's worth checking out. The second
Speaker 2: one gets pretty dark too. I love that it's just
Speaker 2: it's a fun movie and.
Speaker 1: It's like Ice Squad. Tell me how dark it gets?
Speaker 2: Ran it gets, uh gets a little more real. We'll
Speaker 2: say that. Okay, other than CGI talking pigs, all right.
Speaker 2: Then they're doing a double feature, both of them on
Speaker 2: Blu Ray. No word if they're doing a four K
Speaker 2: double feature yet, but you can get them both on
Speaker 2: standalone four K, which is nice. New interviews, pretty good stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it for the week. Next week, just in case
Speaker 2: you forgot, these are the titles that are co out.
Speaker 2: I believe there's a couple at least in here that
Speaker 2: you've worked on, So shout them out when we get
Speaker 2: to him running through them real quick. In the Mouth
Speaker 2: of Madness four K from arrow The Resurrected four K
Speaker 2: from VS getting its release. I will not mention the
Speaker 2: VS stuff because a lot of that stuff we already
Speaker 2: know about has already shipped to most people. Edwards Sisserhand's
Speaker 2: four K from Disney coming in a steel book, Miss
Speaker 2: forty five four K from Arrows, Such a good movie,
Speaker 2: Nightmary Ali four K, the updated noir version from Germo
Speaker 2: del Toro for Criterion. The shin Godzilla four K releases
Speaker 2: are going to be shipping suddenly. We got Arcane Season
Speaker 2: two Chinese Ghost Story Trilogy from Shout next week, Death
Speaker 2: Wish three on four K from Keno. Scooby Doo on
Speaker 2: Zombie Island is getting its Terror Time version release. The
Speaker 2: saw Too Steel Book is delayed till November, but that'll
Speaker 2: be coming soon. Dust Devil four K from Keno. We've
Speaker 2: got the Dan Curtis's Classic Monsters for next week. Trick
Speaker 2: or Treat Steel Book from Arrow Brand. New Toxic Avenger
Speaker 2: four K stel. This is the one that our special
Speaker 2: features on for Cinaverse. Check that one out. Student Bodies
Speaker 2: four K will be shipping here soon from terror Vision.
Speaker 2: Golden Boy from Disco Tech. Dead of Night that we
Speaker 2: talked about earlier is coming out next week from Keno.
Speaker 2: Deep Crimson four K from Criterion Kat and the Canary
Speaker 2: four K from Keno. Gator Bait four K from Terror
Speaker 2: Vision is not shipping anytime soon, hopefully in a couple
Speaker 2: of months. That thing has taken a shit ton of
Speaker 2: work and it's it is off to the races and
Speaker 2: will be in everybody's hands as soon as possible. Mal
Speaker 2: Pair TWEE from Radiance is showing up in people's mailboxes
Speaker 2: now the Hallowing three season, The which four k steealbook
Speaker 2: from Scream is coming out next week. That I believe
Speaker 2: that one was an Amazon exclusive, so check that out.
Speaker 2: Terrifying Girls High School. That's one from Disco Tech that
Speaker 2: I need to be picking up soon. Mega Man the
Speaker 2: complete series from Disco Tech as well. My vote for
Speaker 2: maybe the worst cover art of the year, Relay. This
Speaker 2: cover is terrible because it's not even like bad photoshop.
Speaker 2: It's like first grade photoshop.
Speaker 1: Love the Movie worse than that Hush Steel book.
Speaker 2: It is. Let me let me pull it up in
Speaker 2: h D in another tab and show you, because my god,
Speaker 2: when you look at how they're cut together, it is here,
Speaker 2: it is. It is kind of like this this guy
Speaker 2: was an avatar, that's what you're trying to tell me. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's Jake Sully and he looks like he's from Minecraft.
Speaker 2: Going back to our list, Yes, the Hush k Steel
Speaker 2: Book is next week. Out of the Fog from Warner Archive,
Speaker 2: Manhattan Melodrama from Warner Archive, The Madness Mattin from Werner Archive,
Speaker 2: Americ Conna from this year, which I was kind of surprised.
Speaker 2: I liked quite a bit the best Christmas pageant ever
Speaker 2: I've heard is really good, and I'm gonna try to
Speaker 2: figure out if I'm going to get that one on
Speaker 2: dis because I need to see it. Common Writer Amazon
Speaker 2: from Discothech, The Master of the Lentree from Warner Archive,
Speaker 2: The Third Wife from Film Movements. Uh, there's a lot
Speaker 2: next week for whom the Beltos from anyways, any of
Speaker 2: these that you are either involved in or excited to
Speaker 2: pick up soon?
Speaker 1: Uh hush, I was I did the stuff on that.
Speaker 1: That's all right, I have the I already got my
Speaker 1: shin Godzilla four K a while ago. I guess I
Speaker 1: nice didn't get like this special edition release or something.
Speaker 1: It came from Toho, so I ordered it directly from them,
Speaker 1: and I've had that for a spell. But there's lots
Speaker 1: of great stuff in this. I I love Edward Scissorhands
Speaker 1: so much. I love Miss forty five in the Mouth
Speaker 1: of Madness. You know, you can't see enough of that.
Speaker 1: There's it's a great lineup of films here. I don't
Speaker 1: know what else to say about it. I wish they
Speaker 1: would release Scooby Doo and Kiss movie because that is
Speaker 1: one of the great sort of buried gems for Kiss fans,
Speaker 1: because have you seen that movie years ago?
Speaker 2: I did the same with the Phansom of the Part, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: Fantom of the Well, like John Harrison out of Australia
Speaker 2: just put out his Kiss book, and I there's so
Speaker 2: much that I wish that we could like unfold the
Speaker 2: rights for. And obviously Kiss has been a lot of
Speaker 2: people's minds over the last ten days with a recent tragedy.
Speaker 2: But I mean it's it's like one of those things
Speaker 2: that people have been itching for for.
Speaker 1: Ever, the Kiss and Scooby Doo movie, and I think
Speaker 1: it's called rock and Roll Mystery if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: was such. It is a total love letter to Kiss
Speaker 1: and Kiss fans. There's so many deep cuts and references
Speaker 1: to albums even there's a lot of it's heavily leaning
Speaker 1: into The Elder songs from the Elder, which is the
Speaker 1: album that Kiss fans kind of don't talk about, but
Speaker 1: rich and more because it was a concept album that
Speaker 1: a lot of the elements in this movie pull from.
Speaker 1: So I can't say enough good things about that. And
Speaker 1: I would love for that to get blue ray with
Speaker 1: interviews and things. I would yea, how cool would it be?
Speaker 1: To have commentary with Paul and Jean or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh so cool.
Speaker 2: I wish, I wish. So let's get into some of
Speaker 2: this special features work Reverend Entertainment. For those that have
Speaker 2: not ever heard the name, because it's not usually listed
Speaker 2: on the back of the box or anything like that,
Speaker 2: how long ago did you act?
Speaker 1: Look?
Speaker 2: When was the first Reverend Entertainment Itself project? That was
Speaker 2: what like twenty eleven, twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: That sounds about right. I think it was maybe twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: The name I think was put on something for the
Speaker 1: first time on sleep Boy Camp. I want to say
Speaker 1: that must have been the first time, because I remember
Speaker 1: the editor who I was sitting with at the time,
Speaker 1: Justin Cruz, who's an amazing talent. It's gone on to
Speaker 1: much greener pastures than cutting my crap together. He was like, so,
Speaker 1: what what do you put on there for a company name?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's just me and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: you need to have a company and like and there's
Speaker 1: this whole convoluted story behind the name that I won't
Speaker 1: bore you with, but it has to do with professional
Speaker 1: wrestling and witches and Salem and this whole thing from
Speaker 1: years before. That may be for another day, but I
Speaker 1: pulled that out of my out of the air at
Speaker 1: the time when we were sitting there, and that's how
Speaker 1: Reverend Entertainment was born.
Speaker 2: And you could say on the show, by the way.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. And in the moment, I remembered something
Speaker 1: that back to Carpenter had told me years ago, which
Speaker 1: was like, put your name on things, and you acknowledged
Speaker 1: earlier how bad I am promoting stuff and how gross
Speaker 1: it feels like even like talking about the album and
Speaker 1: when people are asking me about it's a it's an
Speaker 1: awkward intersection for me, like transitioning from the creation stage
Speaker 1: of things into the marketing stage and all of that.
Speaker 1: It's not really where I belong. But he said his
Speaker 1: way around that because he felt the same was he's
Speaker 1: like on his famous story on Halloween seventy eight when
Speaker 1: he said, okay, well I'll do it for that amount
Speaker 1: if my name can be above it. And he told
Speaker 1: me that's what gave me my career. And he said,
Speaker 1: whatever you do, and make sure your name is there.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, this will be my shortcut
Speaker 1: to not having to talk like promote things so much,
Speaker 1: and whatever, and so I put that above the Reverend
Speaker 1: Entertainment name and it's stuck ever since. And it's been
Speaker 1: just a crazy journey of ups and downs and all
Speaker 1: kinds of side roads with small labels and personal projects
Speaker 1: like Sleepway Camp. I took to shout body Bags, I
Speaker 1: took to shout so some things that I've ad actually
Speaker 1: sort of cultivated and taken in hush. I'm not hush.
Speaker 1: Haunt was that way. I remember, I think you and
Speaker 1: I talked about the hot Box set with Ronan and
Speaker 1: how great Ronan was about just letting the three of us, Scott,
Speaker 1: Brian and I just run wild with that thing. So
Speaker 1: man surviving COVID through this. There was a time when
Speaker 1: I stepped away from the business for a while because
Speaker 1: I was so burned out, and then I came back
Speaker 1: for Silent a deadly night and they drew me back
Speaker 1: in and it's been crazy. I mean, I didn't know
Speaker 1: where to begin, but yeah, seep Away Camp is the
Speaker 1: first time that my name was on it. The first
Speaker 1: ones I produced were Halloween four and five, and then
Speaker 1: there was tank Girl and tank Girl happening, I think
Speaker 1: kind of simultaneously with Sleepaway Camp, and then prior to
Speaker 1: at the same time as those, Michael Felcher, the great
Speaker 1: Michael Felcher, who's like one of the gods of the
Speaker 1: realm of documentary and special features, brought me in on
Speaker 1: Prince of Darkness when he did that for Shout and
Speaker 1: so I interviewed John and Alice Cooper for that, which
Speaker 1: led to this whole thing with Alice over the years
Speaker 1: a number of times. And he also brought me in
Speaker 1: on Town That Dreaded Sundown.
Speaker 2: Great great film, great release too.
Speaker 1: I was so that movie haunted me when I was
Speaker 1: a kid. I remember seeing it at my babysitters. She
Speaker 1: was taking a nap and I'm downstairs. I don't know
Speaker 1: how tiny. I was just transfixed by what I was
Speaker 1: seeing this. I'll never forget the trombone scene with the
Speaker 1: knife and the tree. I'm like, five, turn off your TV.
Speaker 1: I don't know, hide the remote.
Speaker 2: I don't remember. First off, like most people in the
Speaker 2: chat that have not seen that, that sentence alone has
Speaker 2: to be one of the most mbone of the knife,
Speaker 2: the trombone and the knife in the tree. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not something you're gonna hear every day, but it's
Speaker 1: a and it's a fascinating movie, and that track for
Speaker 1: me was the first time that I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well maybe we can try something creative here, because it's
Speaker 1: a real story, right. It's this movie by Charles B. Pierce,
Speaker 1: who I love from Boggy Creek, which became this whole
Speaker 1: other thing with Pam. This movie straddles the worlds of
Speaker 1: reality in cinema in a way that's playful but also dark,
Speaker 1: and it's just so good. And so I brought in
Speaker 1: the case the case historian James Presley, who is in
Speaker 1: the middle of writing a book that's now out on
Speaker 1: that case, and he was on one side of the
Speaker 1: conversation talking about the case. I was on the other
Speaker 1: side talking about the film and Pierce, and we had
Speaker 1: a discussion that ran on that commentary. And I don't
Speaker 1: put myself on commentaries unless I asked to, or unless
Speaker 1: it's like absolutely necessary for some reason. But on that one,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was so early and I didn't have
Speaker 1: anyone else to put in that lot. So it was
Speaker 1: an exciting conversation. And so as much as I tipped
Speaker 1: my hat to I was giving credit earlier to these
Speaker 1: other folks Shout and Trancas and all that I have
Speaker 1: to also do the same for Felscher because he had
Speaker 1: no reason to bring this dumb ass from Iowa in
Speaker 1: to cover any of this stuff, and he did, and
Speaker 1: I'm forever grateful for that.
Speaker 2: I mean, not turning this about me, but just to
Speaker 2: show how meaningful they are. Both Felscher and another one
Speaker 2: that was mentioned earlier, Lee Gambon, are the two people
Speaker 2: that I can credit with me getting into the stuff
Speaker 2: as well. Like Lee brought me into edit, Lee referred
Speaker 2: me to Felcher for another shout project, and without them,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be sitting here with you two and a
Speaker 2: half years of work for this industry behind me. Now
Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy, and a lot of that is
Speaker 2: because of people like you that kind of After Anchor
Speaker 2: Bay came in and set the bar for a lot
Speaker 2: of people, You and Lee and a handful of others
Speaker 2: said well, but what else can we do? What can
Speaker 2: we do to push the boundaries? What can we do
Speaker 2: to keep this alive? And now, I mean when Scream
Speaker 2: Factory approached you, what they weren't even screen factory. They
Speaker 2: were shut factory about Halloween four and five. Now look
Speaker 2: at what they've done since then I mean, it's an explosion.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean, but they Cliff and Jeff, and
Speaker 1: I can point directly to them of course as a
Speaker 1: marketing team there and whatever else, but I think Jeff
Speaker 1: was head of marketing at the time. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like what I was talking about with Paramount, where if
Speaker 1: you have the right fans internally, Yep, they can see
Speaker 1: and seize the opportunity in that moment, and what they
Speaker 1: were embarking on, they were already underway on. I think
Speaker 1: the Fog. I think the Fog was the first. Was
Speaker 1: that the first Scream Factory title? It may have been,
Speaker 1: but they were underway with the Fog and something else
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: I think they live as one of those first ones.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well, so it started with Carpenter and
Speaker 1: I was just floored with their dedication and passion for
Speaker 1: this stuff, which it became friendships with those guys and
Speaker 1: a mutual respect and openness to ideas. And that wasn't
Speaker 1: something that I necessarily knew to expect or not expect,
Speaker 1: but it taught me to want that. It taught me
Speaker 1: to enjoy taking the side roads, to enjoy the weird,
Speaker 1: embrace the arcane, and there are there's stuff that I
Speaker 1: got to do with Shout that I wouldn't have ever
Speaker 1: gotten away with with a lot of other labels, Like
Speaker 1: on Willard, I brought in the rat trainers for audio commentary,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are like, look, no, no, no, listen.
Speaker 2: Got to hear it, you got to hear it.
Speaker 1: It's these guys are amazing and they've never been tapped
Speaker 1: for this kind of thing before, and they were they
Speaker 1: were nervous coming into the studio and then will you
Speaker 1: be on it with us? We're not going to have
Speaker 1: enough to say, and I'm like, okay, I'll be there.
Speaker 1: I hardly had to say a thing because they had
Speaker 1: such great stories from wall to wall, and not just
Speaker 1: about that production, but other things in that realm that
Speaker 1: the veil isn't lifted on very often, right, And so
Speaker 1: that has become for me, and that was learned through
Speaker 1: those early days with Shout, just like Chris Alexander at Fangoria,
Speaker 1: who ultimately I owe like he's one of the very
Speaker 1: earliest mile markers for me in terms of someone giving
Speaker 1: me opportunity, and Chris was always wanting the weirder, the better,
Speaker 1: and even though he's not with Fango anymore. He's continued
Speaker 1: that with Delirium, his own films that I think are brilliant.
Speaker 1: I love his cinema, but that combination of the Fangoria
Speaker 1: Chris Alexander approach. We're not going to put Spider Man
Speaker 1: on the cover anymore. Now you can do an article
Speaker 1: on Malatesta's Carnival of Blood or Lady Terminator. We're going
Speaker 1: to put Alice Cooper on the cover. That kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: and I think he had been on there before for
Speaker 1: Fango before mine. But it taught me to get weird,
Speaker 1: and that's something that I've always really embraced and to find, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to make time for as many voices on these things
Speaker 1: as I can, and however I can. Is it always
Speaker 1: possible to get in the room with them. No, the
Speaker 1: budgets have never been big for this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But what matters to me is the discussion. It matters
Speaker 1: is the conversation and the preservation of the history of
Speaker 1: the movies and these people. So however I have to
Speaker 1: get there.
Speaker 2: A lot of your stuff is on the unique side,
Speaker 2: and one that I wanted to bring up tonight that
Speaker 2: we didn't get a chance to talk to last time
Speaker 2: because it didn't exist yet. Is hush? First off? Again,
Speaker 2: a streaming film that could not be seen anymore, was
Speaker 2: not on Netflix, could not be seen on physical media,
Speaker 2: was not available anywhere. Gets an incredible release, gets a
Speaker 2: brand new cut, gets all this other stuff. The big
Speaker 2: thing I want to bring up we get a video
Speaker 2: audio commentary for this was that your choice was that
Speaker 2: a Flannigan choice. Tell me the story behind it.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you the story behind the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Because Mike Flanagan.
Speaker 2: Hero by the way, like of all of this stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of who I could compare him
Speaker 1: to in terms of I really can't. I have never
Speaker 1: worked with a filmmaker before who wanted so badly. Maybe
Speaker 1: Adam Green. Adam Green is in the same view here.
Speaker 1: I don't know my words escaping me right now, but
Speaker 1: where Mike was like, whatever you guys need, Yeah, whatever
Speaker 1: you need. And then Mike made it happen. He brought
Speaker 1: the whole cast together at his house. He opened his
Speaker 1: home to us for two and it was me and
Speaker 1: my team and the internal producer Jeff Roland at Shop
Speaker 1: Factory and they like, I guess you'd say, executive producer
Speaker 1: and Mike and Katie was so amazing and so open
Speaker 1: and hilarious, and the vibe was light, the mood was up,
Speaker 1: and everybody was just relaxing and loving getting a chance
Speaker 1: to catch up. I mean, they had seen each other
Speaker 1: on other projects like Midnight Mass and whatever else, but
Speaker 1: it was like old home week for those folks to
Speaker 1: get back together and talk about this movie. And Mike's
Speaker 1: house is a museum of the most amazing things. And
Speaker 1: our rapport kicked off in the best way because he
Speaker 1: was giving me a tour of the house. He's like,
Speaker 1: we can shoot anywhere you want, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1: He has a theater in there, black mass mannequins in
Speaker 1: the Midnight Mass mannequins in the back with the dice
Speaker 1: on the walls. He has like all this memorabilia from
Speaker 1: the Natural and Feel the Dreams and the rocketeer and
Speaker 1: the hat from Doctor Sleep and all this other I mean,
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, pick it up, check it out.
Speaker 1: He's got he's got Tom Servo and whatever. It's insane.
Speaker 1: And he's giving me the tour of the house and
Speaker 1: we go into his office and I freeze. There's a
Speaker 1: cane on a stand right by the door, and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: my god, is that what I think it is? And
Speaker 1: he goes, wait, are you a Storm of the Century fan?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, is that Lenoja's Cane. He's like, that's
Speaker 1: Lenoja's hero Caine from Yes You're a Fan, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: am I a fan? I love Storm of the Century
Speaker 1: and it has one of the best audio commentaries in
Speaker 1: the history of audio commentaries, by the way, yep. So
Speaker 1: it was a very quick bond. And he said, well,
Speaker 1: then in the corner and let's keep talking. And I
Speaker 1: turn the corner and find myself standing in front of
Speaker 1: the most incredible Stephen King collection I have ever seen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the other memorabilia is cool, but I'm a King guy,
Speaker 1: and I being close to like the box set edition
Speaker 1: of the Stand and all this other stuff. And then
Speaker 1: I look down and there's the typewriter from Misery, Oh jeez,
Speaker 1: and there's the hammer from Misery. Mike Flanagan isn't just
Speaker 1: getting a chance to work on Stephen King's stuff. He
Speaker 1: is fulfilling a lifelong dream to work on Stephen King stuff.
Speaker 1: And he's not coming at it lightly. He lives it.
Speaker 1: If you enter his home. The man lives it, he
Speaker 1: really does, and I cannot say enough great things about
Speaker 1: him and that whole I mean, everybody who came in
Speaker 1: to do the interviews was so generous with their time
Speaker 1: and their storytelling, and I think it's a great portrait
Speaker 1: of a guy early in his career who did something
Speaker 1: in a newish medium, the streaming thing, who had some
Speaker 1: complicated relationship with that eventually right, and that's why he
Speaker 1: wrestled back the rights. And to your question about the
Speaker 1: video commentary on that, that was Jeff Roland. So that's
Speaker 1: the internal executive at Shout Factory, and he came up
Speaker 1: with the ideas like can we throw a camera up
Speaker 1: in the corner of the room, and so we did it.
Speaker 1: It was it was kind of crazy because I had
Speaker 1: to be hopping in and out of the room because
Speaker 1: we were like doing other stuff out in the kitchen
Speaker 1: area where we had gear staged and things. So I
Speaker 1: would come in check the audio, head back out, and
Speaker 1: I think to cover me in that they put like
Speaker 1: the box of the movie in the middle of the
Speaker 1: screen where I was sitting, which is kind of meant
Speaker 1: to sort of hide me getting in and out of
Speaker 1: that room all the time because I ruined it. But anyway,
Speaker 1: it was an honor to be part of. And Mike's
Speaker 1: incredible and he sent the sweetest email when it came
Speaker 1: out once well shortly before after he saw everything and
Speaker 1: it had approved all the special features and stuff, and
Speaker 1: I had all this. He gave me everything from behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. He gave me all of the BTS stuff
Speaker 1: that anybody shot with their phones with ePK anything, and
Speaker 1: I got to use it all on the documentaries and everything.
Speaker 1: And I just love the guy so dearly, and that
Speaker 1: experience is something I'll never forget, never forget.
Speaker 2: To see. To see somebody that loves physical media be
Speaker 2: able to wrestle his streaming only film and get a
Speaker 2: four disc loving release with all kinds of new special features,
Speaker 2: new cut, knew everything was such a like I'm so
Speaker 2: happy for him type of moment, and then to have
Speaker 2: the release be genuinely great is just so gratifying for
Speaker 2: people that love him and Stephen King and this legacy
Speaker 2: that he's been holding force even for all this time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm stoked that you can work on it. It turned
Speaker 2: out just incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an honor.
Speaker 2: To pivot. Ever so massively from Mike Flanagan. I mean
Speaker 2: bringing out the Dead, to be able to work on this,
Speaker 2: to be able to see a Scorsese film that people
Speaker 2: have been wondering, Where the hell is it? Why is
Speaker 2: this one that we can't see? Why is this one
Speaker 2: that Criterion hasn't touched yet, what it's going on with
Speaker 2: the rights? Suddenly come out and get a very good release,
Speaker 2: be very happy, and now be fully out of print.
Speaker 2: Let's hear some of these stories behind the scenes and
Speaker 2: all that stuff for now. I mean we all kind
Speaker 2: of know it's probably coming again soon.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we just announced are they just announced breakdown?
Speaker 1: So you never know what may be coming down the road.
Speaker 1: I've been knocking on that door like the biggest pests
Speaker 1: ever since that thing, because it ran out of print in.
Speaker 2: Like two weeks literally on preorder, I think on preorder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it came out and if anybody had one, it
Speaker 1: was like grab it and run, which was a real shame.
Speaker 1: That project was something that I pushed for so hard,
Speaker 1: and I was so annoying to the team at Paramount
Speaker 1: because I love that movie a lot, and that's one
Speaker 1: of them that I bring up time and time again
Speaker 1: to people, what's an unsung movie, what's like the Hidden
Speaker 1: Gem and whatever? Always point to that. I held on
Speaker 1: to my original Paramount DVD with that red cover forever
Speaker 1: and ever, assuming nothing would happen with it. And then
Speaker 1: it became a running joke with me and the people
Speaker 1: inside Paramount where we'd have a meeting about Paramount scares
Speaker 1: or about breakdown or whatever else, and I'm like, and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get going on Bringing Out the
Speaker 1: Dead and they're like, oh, justin, You're such a dick. Eventually, though,
Speaker 1: I think it was with the aid of Killers of
Speaker 1: the Flower Moon happened. Yeah, the door started to open
Speaker 1: around it. And then it became a waiting game for
Speaker 1: Scorsese and Cage because Scorsese it was in he was reshooting, reshooting, reshooting,
Speaker 1: He's back in Oklahoma. He's back in Oklahoma, and we
Speaker 1: had to be patient, and Cage was on board, very enthusiastic.
Speaker 1: He would be doing media events for new movies that
Speaker 1: had landed and he's in the press queue and they're like,
Speaker 1: so what else you got working on? Well, I'm really
Speaker 1: excited that Bringing Out the Dead is finally going to
Speaker 1: get a proper release, And I'm going to be part
Speaker 1: of that, Like he was talking about it on worldwide
Speaker 1: media TV and stuff, so I'm like, but it did
Speaker 1: get to the point, especially with Scorsese in his schedule,
Speaker 1: where it was like, Okay, is this going to happen?
Speaker 1: And I give all the credit in the world to
Speaker 1: the internal team at Paramount, because at any moment they
Speaker 1: could have just pulled the trigger the transfer. I mean,
Speaker 1: they could have put that out bare bones or not
Speaker 1: with at least the previous features that were on that
Speaker 1: DVD from years ago and left it at that. But
Speaker 1: they were so wonderful about being patient and man. And then,
Speaker 1: just like so many other things in entertainment, I get
Speaker 1: the call that or the email that Scorsese's available, and
Speaker 1: it's like, but it's like this Friday, and you have
Speaker 1: one day before he goes on this international media blitz
Speaker 1: for Flour and it has to be in New York City,
Speaker 1: and here's a list of the hotels that are acceptable
Speaker 1: to film that and this Friday, so let us know
Speaker 1: what time you'll be here.
Speaker 2: WHOA, This is like two years of.
Speaker 1: Waiting and emailing and Okay, can't wait, and thank you
Speaker 1: so much for your time. Look forward to hearing from
Speaker 1: you and all that stuff, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's like the light's flashing green right in my face.
Speaker 1: And so so again tip of the hat to Paramount
Speaker 1: that that team moves so fast to help put the
Speaker 1: pieces together to get me and the internal gal up
Speaker 1: to New York City. It was like around Christmas time,
Speaker 1: and it was such a whirlwind. It was like a
Speaker 1: couple of days. Oh I contact. I reached out to
Speaker 1: Paul Schrader, who was super excited to talk, which I
Speaker 1: was thrilled about because I don't you know, you never
Speaker 1: know with Paul that he was wonderful on the day
Speaker 1: and very generous with his time to and then we
Speaker 1: found all this unused ePK stuff interviews from the set
Speaker 1: of the film that nobody had done anything with, which
Speaker 1: is an unreal fine. The only other time we encountered
Speaker 1: that was on oh, on Golden Child, which was one
Speaker 1: of my early Paramount titles, which that's the bulk of
Speaker 1: what we had to work with was just this onset
Speaker 1: interview stuff, and I'm like, this is you and I
Speaker 1: couldn't put it all in there, but I really really
Speaker 1: wanted to, just like, let's put these interviews uncut. Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy is talking about his concept for the movie Raw
Speaker 1: during shooting of Golden Child. It didn't have a name yet,
Speaker 1: but the way he describes it, I have this idea.
Speaker 1: And he's giving all these kudos to Richard Pryor. No
Speaker 1: one can do a stand up comedy movie now that
Speaker 1: Richard mastered the craft. He delivered the ultimate and I
Speaker 1: don't even want to touch it. So my idea is
Speaker 1: something a little bit different. There's going to be characters
Speaker 1: and I don't know, you know whatever. It's amazing you
Speaker 1: see that stuff, to see that, so bringing out the
Speaker 1: dead all of a sudden in front of me is
Speaker 1: Tom Sizemore and Van Raims and John Goodman. I mean,
Speaker 1: the whole cast is right there, Patricia, everybody nice on
Speaker 1: the set of the film with all this behind the
Speaker 1: scenes stuff. And then Bob Richardson, who has always been
Speaker 1: great with me, like I've done a bunch of the
Speaker 1: Oliver Stone movies, and Bob was always down to come
Speaker 1: and talk and we bonded over all love for the
Speaker 1: doors early on, and so he showed up for it
Speaker 1: the best. Though I'm the hugest Nicholas Cage fan and
Speaker 1: never would I think that I would get the chance
Speaker 1: to go hang out with Nicholas Cage. Chris Alexander back
Speaker 1: to him from Fangoria has an incredible that Trump's mind
Speaker 1: by a thousand percent story about Nicholas Cage. Those of
Speaker 1: you who are watching search for Chris Alexander and Nicholas
Speaker 1: Cage and maybe the word island. There's a whole story
Speaker 1: about when Cage reached out to Chris for an interview
Speaker 1: and it might have been on Ghostwriterer Movies or something
Speaker 1: must have been, and he's like, yeah, we can do it,
Speaker 1: but you have to come to my island. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to spoil it for you because it's worth reading
Speaker 1: and it's so much better. My paraphrasing would not do
Speaker 1: it justice. But Chris made it like an overnight flight
Speaker 1: down to get on this little rowboat, like it's shuttled
Speaker 1: out to this island where he's eating snail penises and
Speaker 1: stuff with Nicholas Cage. This is all real and you
Speaker 1: need to check it out. People, So Chris Alexander, Nicholas Cage,
Speaker 1: and Island. Look it up. My story though, going to
Speaker 1: Cage's house in Vegas, which was the best experience interview wise,
Speaker 1: I think I've probably ever had because it was him,
Speaker 1: because it was his house and his environment, I mean,
Speaker 1: And he couldn't have been sweeter the whole time. He
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more grounded, more real. He had made
Speaker 1: notes on his phone to make sure he talked about
Speaker 1: all the stuff that he wanted to talk about. How
Speaker 1: many people that let me the number of people who
Speaker 1: have walked into interviews with me in what like fifteen
Speaker 1: years now or whatever with notes, that's it incredible. He
Speaker 1: kept he had a new baby and he wanted us
Speaker 1: to meet the baby, and kept walking over Like as
Speaker 1: we're setting up, he's hanging out with his kid. He's
Speaker 1: got this grand open plan for his layout of his house,
Speaker 1: this massive fireplace in the middle, a dining table that's
Speaker 1: like the one in Batman when Vicky Vale sitting on
Speaker 1: one end and Bruce is all the way down here
Speaker 1: and they're like, what, I can't you know? It's like
Speaker 1: that's Nick's life. In his dining room, There's an aviary
Speaker 1: in the back of the room with a bunch of
Speaker 1: large birds living in it. There's fish tanks everywhere, horror
Speaker 1: posters all over. In the middle of all this are
Speaker 1: little tikes, climbers and plastic houses for his kids. But
Speaker 1: the thing he was most excited about out of all
Speaker 1: of it was he's like, I got to show you
Speaker 1: my new room that I just finished. Yeah, it's downstairs.
Speaker 1: Did I tell you about this already? No?
Speaker 2: You you wrote a big long write up about it
Speaker 2: on oh, on Facebook or something. Yeah, okay, it's an
Speaker 2: incredible piece. And my remembering this was in Vegas too.
Speaker 1: Vegas, yeah, Last Vegas. Yeah. And he's like, you got
Speaker 1: you got to see my black light room, and I
Speaker 1: forgot that I had posted that. So if this is
Speaker 1: repeat for anybody, apologies. But anyway, under his living room
Speaker 1: there's like this tight metal spiral staircase like in the
Speaker 1: Haunting because of course, although way smaller because of course,
Speaker 1: and it's Last Vegas. And I'm thinking, sure, how many
Speaker 1: gangsters have lived in this gate because he lives in
Speaker 1: a gated area of Vegas, like which you need to
Speaker 1: if you live in Vegas from what I understand. And anyway,
Speaker 1: you go down this little staircase and it's a hallway
Speaker 1: that's covered on all sides except the floor and black
Speaker 1: light posters like what we used to have when we
Speaker 1: were the fuzzy and you get him at fairs or
Speaker 1: whatever and they have like a spencer, Yeah, Spencer's there.
Speaker 1: You go the grim Reaper like holding a snake and
Speaker 1: I don't know ac DC and shit, and but it
Speaker 1: was all this all the way down the hall and
Speaker 1: there's just a little room at the end of it,
Speaker 1: no doors, just a hallway, which I'm sure people have
Speaker 1: probably been murdered, and whoever lived in this house before?
Speaker 1: And then Las Vegas come on, gangsters or whatever, and
Speaker 1: he's like, I hear him, isn't it great? He was
Speaker 1: so proud of his black lights in this underground hallway
Speaker 1: in his house. He was just charming and wonderful and sincere.
Speaker 1: And at the end we were talking about other movies
Speaker 1: that he wishes would get this kind of treatment, and
Speaker 1: we agreed on Peggy Sue Got Married. Yeah, we talked
Speaker 1: about a few other films, but he was from the
Speaker 1: moment I got there and he opened the door. He's
Speaker 1: just a family guy. He is. I mean, there's all there.
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks there's crazy Nekroa's cage, but I can say
Speaker 1: when you see him at home, he loves being around
Speaker 1: his kids and his wife and a man in his
Speaker 1: black lights, was a man in his black lights and
Speaker 1: his aviary full of giant birds and giant dragon sconces
Speaker 1: all over on the floor and Batman table. Awesome. It
Speaker 1: was great. And then when it came out, I was
Speaker 1: so so excited and singing from the mountains about this thing.
Speaker 1: And then it sells out so quickly because that was
Speaker 1: part of the Paramount Presents series, and if you're a recall,
Speaker 1: when that was going, all those were limited, yep. And
Speaker 1: I think that happened on Breakdown too. I think Breakdowns
Speaker 1: sold out pretty quickly as well. Some of the other
Speaker 1: stuff I did, like Blue Hawaii didn't do very well,
Speaker 1: even though I was super excited to work on that
Speaker 1: and a few but for the most part, a lot
Speaker 1: of those titles did very very well. And then it
Speaker 1: just became again like me being annoying about bringing out
Speaker 1: the debt again. Now it's okay, we did it. When
Speaker 1: is it going to hit General Catalog? When's it going
Speaker 1: to get hit General Catalog? And I sent that same
Speaker 1: email today a matter of hours prior to you and
Speaker 1: I connecting to ask once again, is this going to happen?
Speaker 1: And I'll just say never say never, and I certainly
Speaker 1: hope that it happens sooner than later, because there's still
Speaker 1: people asking me about it all the time. Of course,
Speaker 1: And it was the and that was it, that was
Speaker 1: my that was the swan song. That was my final
Speaker 1: project with Paramount, which is crushing but also at the
Speaker 1: same time so perfect because it's the one that I
Speaker 1: was like chasing around and the one that we had
Speaker 1: to be so patient with and the one where I'm
Speaker 1: in the room with. I mean, just all of it,
Speaker 1: the whole, all the stories behind it, all the lead up,
Speaker 1: all the hu above, the rush, the week of the
Speaker 1: shoots in New York, Paul Schrader's showing me is the
Speaker 1: Finger where Scris says he's dog bit him at some party.
Speaker 1: I guess anyway, he had a big bandage on his family,
Speaker 1: Like what happened? He's like, we'll ask him. You know,
Speaker 1: his dog bit me. He told you.
Speaker 2: It was a bier And.
Speaker 1: But anyway, uh, for that to be it, I hope
Speaker 1: it comes back someday, if some miracle happens and sky
Speaker 1: Dance loses ownership of Paramount and decides to invest in
Speaker 1: physical media again. But I'll always I mean, what better
Speaker 1: way to write off in the sunset, you know. And
Speaker 1: really it was the same with Shout and Hush Hush,
Speaker 1: I think was it was certainly the last production for me.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: With Shout, I was also working on Born in the
Speaker 1: fourth of July, Yeah, and JFK at the same time.
Speaker 1: Maybe Born in the fourth July I might have been
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, or I might be flip flopping those,
Speaker 1: but I think Hush was the last actual release with
Speaker 1: them too, And that experience with Mike is unforgettable and.
Speaker 2: Pretty robust thing to end on.
Speaker 1: It really is in both cases, I mean, a happy accident.
Speaker 1: If something had to come to a conclusion, I'm glad
Speaker 1: it did in those ways and with those films.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, the companies that you've worked for throughout
Speaker 2: the years are kind of crazy to run down the list.
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, a lot of people that
Speaker 2: do this don't ever get a chance to be not
Speaker 2: even like touching studio things, but to be so close
Speaker 2: with studio things, and for you to be, you know,
Speaker 2: deep inside paramount has got to be such a cool thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, you were mentioning the archive. Literally everybody as
Speaker 2: a Paramount deal always mentions this because most studios will
Speaker 2: say no, we don't have anything and that's it.
Speaker 1: Sorry, And a lot of them don't. A lot of
Speaker 1: them don't make that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: With Paramount, it's literally, oh we might, and we will
Speaker 2: send people down there and literally uncover as much as
Speaker 2: we can, and most of the time they have something.
Speaker 2: Their archive is incredible.
Speaker 1: It I in the years that I've been talking about
Speaker 1: this stuff, the stories that always rise to the top
Speaker 1: are somehow, I mean, there are many, but some of
Speaker 1: the greatest rewards for me are relating to fines and
Speaker 1: discoveries with that team and things that I was allowed
Speaker 1: to do that I really probably didn't have the right
Speaker 1: to do. Like on The Last Castle. Did we talk
Speaker 1: about that last time?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think we did before we recorded,
Speaker 2: but I don't think we went deep into it during.
Speaker 1: Okay, So The Last Castle, for those who aren't aware,
Speaker 1: is an amazing movie and is absolutely one to track down.
Speaker 1: Robert Redford, James Gandalf Mark Ruffalo. It is so stacked.
Speaker 1: It's a real powerhouse film. But it suffered a really
Speaker 1: unfortunate fate that when they were in post on this movie,
Speaker 1: they had released teaser posters and trailers maybe a trailer,
Speaker 1: but definitely ads and posters. The movie is about a
Speaker 1: military prison being overthrown by the inmates, led by Robert Redford,
Speaker 1: who's put in there, and the poster was like two
Speaker 1: military prison towers on fire with a tattered flag in
Speaker 1: the foreground. And then nine to eleven happened. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so they had to recall the whole ad campaign. They
Speaker 1: sent out apologies. I still have I tracked down on
Speaker 1: eBay some of the materials that were sent out to
Speaker 1: different newspapers and theaters like we're so sorry, poll which
Speaker 1: you have used this stuff instead. And so as a result,
Speaker 1: the movie just came and went. It just absolutely disappeared.
Speaker 1: It's a real powerhouse film and that was so much
Speaker 1: fun to be part of. But one of the stories,
Speaker 1: similar to with Breakdown, the director when he was talking
Speaker 1: to me about the impact that nine to eleven had
Speaker 1: on the film, and it's not just its release but
Speaker 1: the film as a whole. Originally that film and they
Speaker 1: shot it was meant to end spoiler, Can I give
Speaker 1: a spoiler here where people are seeing Okay, the film,
Speaker 1: Redford's character passes away and it was to end with
Speaker 1: his military funeral, and they and at the end of it,
Speaker 1: in this very symbolic gesture, the flag from his coffin
Speaker 1: is folded up and then handed to his daughter, which
Speaker 1: is a certain moment of closure that if you watch
Speaker 1: the film, you know their complicated relationship is very much
Speaker 1: at the heart of a lot of the movie, and
Speaker 1: so it's a moment that really matters. It really did.
Speaker 1: But I understand their desire to not have something like
Speaker 1: that at the end of movie at that time. I
Speaker 1: very much respect that, of course, But when I was
Speaker 1: talking about it with him, he mentioned that he's like,
Speaker 1: I've never even seen the footage. I don't know what
Speaker 1: happened to it. But I don't know. And so I
Speaker 1: went to the archive team and I'm like, if I
Speaker 1: could just get some stills, if I can get anything,
Speaker 1: if we have any scraps of that day, And they
Speaker 1: came back, to my astonishment and said, not only do
Speaker 1: we have it, we have everything on the day. It
Speaker 1: had never been assembled. But it's like take one, take two,
Speaker 1: take three, take one, take for the whole thing. Like
Speaker 1: you're seeing the trumpeters, you're seeing the hands over the casket,
Speaker 1: folding the flag. It's all there, and the scratch audio
Speaker 1: is all there too that they had on the day.
Speaker 1: I only say scratch because it wasn't processed and cleaned
Speaker 1: and all that and perfect. Okay, so I can at
Speaker 1: least cut this into the piece right. And then one day,
Speaker 1: as I was waiting for something else, I don't know
Speaker 1: that took time, I had some downtime and I thought,
Speaker 1: let me just monkey around with this, and I start
Speaker 1: choosing shots and putting together this scene to see what
Speaker 1: it would be like to have this assembled in its
Speaker 1: primitive form. I mean, this was pretty early in my
Speaker 1: editing days too. I'm an eternal student in that regard,
Speaker 1: and I have a million miles to go to get
Speaker 1: anywhere near to like the Felchers and these guys that
Speaker 1: are out there. But I'm trying doing my best. But
Speaker 1: on this day I decided to cut the end for
Speaker 1: the last Castle. And then I sent it into my
Speaker 1: then executive at Paramount and I said, hey, here's what
Speaker 1: it would look like. But I'm going to choose a
Speaker 1: few bits and pieces. And he came back and he's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: hold on, let me send it to legal. What long
Speaker 1: story long? Again, it gets cleared and it's on the disc.
Speaker 1: So the alternate ending that's on that disc, which I
Speaker 1: think is now up to four K, maybe by Keno
Speaker 1: or someone else has picked it up. It's lived on,
Speaker 1: it's continued to live on, which is so exciting. That
Speaker 1: edit is by me, and I had no right to
Speaker 1: be doing it, but what an amazing thing to cut
Speaker 1: scene in a Robert Redford movie. I probably shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been and for them, but for them to support me
Speaker 1: in it, you know, for them to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is cool instead of what have
Speaker 1: you done? Which is totally what I expected to get back.
Speaker 1: All goes back to the archive team. Though they could
Speaker 1: have easily just said because I don't think that stuff
Speaker 1: wasn't on their inventory sheet. They could have easily just
Speaker 1: said nope, But they went and they found every bit
Speaker 1: of it and sent every bit of it to me.
Speaker 1: They could have just sent me clips, that's true. They
Speaker 1: could have done a million things, but instead they just
Speaker 1: gave me the whole thing and it was so awesome.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're privy to this information. Jake
Speaker 2: is asking, do you know how many copies of the
Speaker 2: Paramount Present's line gets pressed? I found from someone else.
Speaker 2: I think they had said that it was six thousand
Speaker 2: of every Pairmount Presents.
Speaker 1: That sounds right, That sounds correct, I think, And they
Speaker 1: may have even done a few additional on that one.
Speaker 1: I want to say, I can't remember, but I think
Speaker 1: six is correct. Yeah, I'd have to confirm. I can't
Speaker 1: remember exactly. For some of those times there is more
Speaker 1: so low. It's it's rough, it was a new thing.
Speaker 1: You got to keep in mind, this is a studio
Speaker 1: that has skimped on releases historically. Think about all those
Speaker 1: Paramount DVDs back in the day. There was a uniformity
Speaker 1: to how they looked with some people appreciated that box
Speaker 1: on the back at the top special features, animated menus
Speaker 1: which we all love, but they were never famous for
Speaker 1: their special features. And for these guys to come in,
Speaker 1: this crew who I got the good fortune to work
Speaker 1: with and push for a Paramount Presents line, let alone,
Speaker 1: Paramount scares right. And however, whatever degrees of success that
Speaker 1: has or will have, I mean, it's really a feat
Speaker 1: if you consider that it's with this historic studio who
Speaker 1: really hasn't paid a whole lot of love to their
Speaker 1: movies on home video. So I think Paramount Presents was
Speaker 1: an experiment that went very well in some cases, not
Speaker 1: very well in some others, like any catalog, but it
Speaker 1: was a special moment for them. And if these Skuydance
Speaker 1: people are going to come in and I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're going to do or what their plan is,
Speaker 1: but I do know that it just this kind of
Speaker 1: stuff doesn't seem to be a real big focus right now.
Speaker 1: And if, just like I'm saying with bringing Out the Dead,
Speaker 1: for me personally, if the Paramount Presents line was the
Speaker 1: sort of sign off for in house curated releases with
Speaker 1: new content, they did a hell of a job on it.
Speaker 2: Well, and they did a lot for the in a
Speaker 2: fairly short period of time. I mean, pre twenty twenty
Speaker 2: Paaramount was out of the game. There was not anything happening.
Speaker 2: And really, like Imprint in Australia is one of the
Speaker 2: big greasing of the wheels that happened here. It was, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of demand for these things, and so
Speaker 2: Imprint got those down there, and now in the US
Speaker 2: they exploded and very quickly got that catalog. I think
Speaker 2: they ended up like with thirty five forty something.
Speaker 1: And they're so nice. You got that open cover with
Speaker 1: the original poster art in there, the slip sleeve. A
Speaker 1: lot of love was put into all of those by
Speaker 1: the whole team in the air, and it was the
Speaker 1: same with the Scare stuff, and I hope that that continues.
Speaker 1: I hope that it would be great to see a
Speaker 1: whole line evolve from that. But with the state of
Speaker 1: things there now, I frankly have no clue what the
Speaker 1: future holds for any of that stuff. But we got
Speaker 1: it while we did Yeah, we got it while we did.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's not the same, but the branding continues
Speaker 2: to live on. We know Terror Vision has more of
Speaker 2: the VHS coming with the Paramount Scars branding, so hopefully
Speaker 2: that that can stay resurrected for some time.
Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 2: So trying to keep you less than about three hours,
Speaker 2: We got about seven and a half minutes left if
Speaker 2: I'm sticking to that sort of lightning round as quick
Speaker 2: as you can for some of these what what do
Speaker 2: you feel like is the special feature that you look
Speaker 2: back on and feel like, this is my like fully realized.
Speaker 2: If I'm summing up everything that I've done on special features,
Speaker 2: this is the one that I present to.
Speaker 1: Somebody Silent Night, Dowa of the Night Part two. Really
Speaker 1: it's a good pick, really because that was a and
Speaker 1: I know you're saying lightning round, but that was a
Speaker 1: film that had been so maligned for so long, had
Speaker 1: been reduced to a punchline.
Speaker 2: And a meme.
Speaker 1: And what I found with Lee Harry the director or
Speaker 1: Eric Freeman, with the assistance of Justin Powell Pizzow he
Speaker 1: calls himself on YouTube and stuff, but he helped connect
Speaker 1: me with Eric, and that again back to the sincerity
Speaker 1: thing that I keep talking about. So much time and
Speaker 1: love went into making that movie something more than what
Speaker 1: the assignment was, and it was a tremendous opportunity for
Speaker 1: me to help the world see Lee Harry as a filmmaker,
Speaker 1: to see Eric Freeman for who he is instead of
Speaker 1: just garbage day. And Lee dug up footage from when
Speaker 1: he was a little kid making movies in his backyard
Speaker 1: and it matched exactly to what he had told me
Speaker 1: in the interview and when I asked him about it.
Speaker 1: While I'm sitting there editing with my editor Mike Saunders
Speaker 1: from Prescribe Films at the time, and I'm like texting like, Lee,
Speaker 1: does this stuff exist? And he's like, well, somewhere maybe,
Speaker 1: and then it starts showing up in my inbox and
Speaker 1: matches note for note for exactly how he was describing
Speaker 1: being a filmmaker in his backyard with his friends and
Speaker 1: family and he was little. And it just feels to
Speaker 1: me like a way to sort of justify that. But
Speaker 1: also one that I know I've received criticism for it
Speaker 1: is big Trouble in Little China, because on that one,
Speaker 1: I had no I always say I had no breaks,
Speaker 1: right because I discovered that everyone who wasn't Kurt Russell
Speaker 1: was basically ignored on all the video releases historically. And
Speaker 1: then as I think you and I talked about this before,
Speaker 1: so forgive the repetition, but the chance to talk with Carter,
Speaker 1: Wong and you name it. Man, all those guys are
Speaker 1: icons in their field, and they took the time to
Speaker 1: come in and talk, and I wanted to present those
Speaker 1: conversations in as full as possible because it's, like I
Speaker 1: think it still is the only time many of them
Speaker 1: have been interviewed for something like that, And I received
Speaker 1: a lot of flak from people for lack of cuts
Speaker 1: and whatever, but it's like no, I wanted. This is
Speaker 1: so much more in my mind for them and their
Speaker 1: story and Drew Strews and who we just lost same
Speaker 1: thing where Drew is so sweet. I should have been
Speaker 1: more prepared here. He sent me after the interview with him.
Speaker 1: For that, he sent me a charcoal drawing of a
Speaker 1: of a panther and signed it Drew Strews in which
Speaker 1: I think he usually just signed strews in on stuff.
Speaker 1: And then he sent me this other thing. Damn, I
Speaker 1: should have brought it here. It's this quote from Thureau
Speaker 1: about if we could only look into each other's eyes
Speaker 1: one more time. I'm not going to paraphrase this and
Speaker 1: ruin it, but it's like the sweetest thing. And so
Speaker 1: I have them hung wow like that side by side.
Speaker 1: Who does that? I haven't incredible? The only no one
Speaker 1: reaches out after interviews usually and says anything, but oh,
Speaker 1: Carter Wong sent me a framed a gold framed picture,
Speaker 1: not real gold, like a gold color. I didn't it
Speaker 1: a picture of him in a temple with a thank
Speaker 1: you on it and it says good luck on it
Speaker 1: like that's that happened on the same project, on Big Trouble,
Speaker 1: And so I'll take all the shit I can get
Speaker 1: from people who are complaining about my lack of edits
Speaker 1: on that. My job was to tell these to get
Speaker 1: these people's stories out there, and I wanted it to
Speaker 1: be as thorough as I could. And yeah, so I'm
Speaker 1: honored to have been part of any of that, let
Speaker 1: alone have when these guys say such nice things.
Speaker 2: But well, and now, how fortunate We're probably not going
Speaker 2: to get another release of that because now it's under
Speaker 2: the Disney catalog. So that's probably the last word on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, think about that. Yeah, well, it was those two
Speaker 1: are the two that I probably talk about the most.
Speaker 1: And then bringing out the Dead, of course, is like
Speaker 1: the perfect audios.
Speaker 2: One that we didn't talk about last time is I've
Speaker 2: had people ask me how I'm doing it. But the
Speaker 2: big question is for somebody like you, how do you?
Speaker 2: How do you do all this from Iowa? How are
Speaker 2: you somebody that lives in Iowa and is working on
Speaker 2: these major projects for people that are nowhere near Iowa.
Speaker 1: Ever, Well, having incredible people around me is the answer
Speaker 1: to that. I have the my cinematographers in la I
Speaker 1: like all over the world in pockets. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: these amazing dps who I work with, and oftentimes I'm
Speaker 1: asking someone for a referral. Like Anthony Ferrante has been
Speaker 1: great in a number of cases because he's shot kind
Speaker 1: of everywhere, so he knows people all over the place. Hey,
Speaker 1: do you have someone in blank? And that's kind of
Speaker 1: something a lot of us in this side of the
Speaker 1: business do anyway, because there aren't that many of us
Speaker 1: out there playing this game. So for the most part,
Speaker 1: it seems like at least the people close to me,
Speaker 1: we're all very happy to share content and references and whatever.
Speaker 2: But it's.
Speaker 1: A combination of being able to conduct interviews remotely from
Speaker 1: here with a camera person in the room with the
Speaker 1: other party, or depending on how deep I am and
Speaker 1: all these projects, the cinematographers might handle the interview in
Speaker 1: person with what I've sent them. I try to be
Speaker 1: there in person as often as I can. In fact,
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning or tomorrow afternoon, I'm flying out to LA
Speaker 1: and I'll be out there for a week shooting stuff.
Speaker 1: But COVID helped level that field a little bit because
Speaker 1: it made it acceptable to have someone on a screen
Speaker 1: talking to you instead of having to be in the room,
Speaker 1: and so I'm very grateful for that. And the technology
Speaker 1: has evolved a lot since COVID too, Like zoom resolution
Speaker 1: is such trash and it maxes out at like seven
Speaker 1: twenty or maybe even for eight. I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: seven to twenty. I always it was such a miserable
Speaker 1: thing to have to struggle with during COVID, and then
Speaker 1: come services like riverside or I can get four K
Speaker 1: and whatever else. So you can also get some pretty
Speaker 1: solid remote stuff shot now too, with people in other
Speaker 1: countries or somewhere where I don't have a crew or
Speaker 1: can't find someone, And a lot of times people pop
Speaker 1: up at the last minute, Oh I'm available now, and
Speaker 1: we can do that now. So back to my point,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it's varying degrees of means to
Speaker 1: be able to do it, and to me, it's all
Speaker 1: about gathering those stories. But true, I mean I would
Speaker 1: start rattling off names, but I don't want to make
Speaker 1: anyone feel like they're left out in doing that because
Speaker 1: everybody is so vital to this effort. And so I mean,
Speaker 1: ultimately the company is it's me here in Iowa, yes,
Speaker 1: as you said, but it's not it's this family of
Speaker 1: impossibly awesome creative people that are around me and supporting
Speaker 1: me and my friends, Like I mentioned Lynn who doesn't
Speaker 1: work for my company. Linn Omiker, who I mentioned at
Speaker 1: the very beginning of this, but is always helping me
Speaker 1: with stuff layouts and graphic things. He's a computer guy
Speaker 1: who knows so much. I could just run down a list,
Speaker 1: but I'm a part of it. But it's this family.
Speaker 1: It's a family.
Speaker 2: So much of this is literally just networks of people
Speaker 2: and building the relationships and trust and being able to say, oh,
Speaker 2: I need this person on this day. I know that
Speaker 2: I can trust these four people and be able to
Speaker 2: reach out to them at any point. It's kind of
Speaker 2: incredible to see how many people touch a single one
Speaker 2: of these projects, let alone like an entire company's line up.
Speaker 1: Oh it's absolutely and I love when someone reaches out.
Speaker 1: It just happened today someone hey, do you have anybody
Speaker 1: in blank? And I'm yeah, I do. Here's their names.
Speaker 1: And it was New York City, so it takes me
Speaker 1: back to shooting with Scorsese and all that up there.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, yeah, absolutely, I got a great guy
Speaker 1: up there, and it spread the love. We're all fighting
Speaker 1: the same fight, and it takes it. Anybody who claims
Speaker 1: this is a one person thing, I don't know how
Speaker 1: they would do that, first of all, but I have
Speaker 1: to just I've been the knee to reference Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones to the people around me in this thing and
Speaker 1: who have supported me through the years, and just so
Speaker 1: indebted to them.
Speaker 2: Since twenty twenty, a title that's come out that you
Speaker 2: are wishing that Reverend would have been on instead of
Speaker 2: whoever did it?
Speaker 1: Since twenty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's the time when you know, everybody was
Speaker 2: getting stimulus checks and everything exploded. And it seems like
Speaker 2: since that time, we've had more companies start, we've had
Speaker 2: more releases. I mean, we're at the point now where
Speaker 2: it will we'll get three weeks in a row where
Speaker 2: there's more than one hundred announcements. It's kind of insane.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the twenty twenty thing. A few
Speaker 1: that I wish Night of the Demons for Shout Factory,
Speaker 1: I wish I would have been on those. I did
Speaker 1: it an exhaustive. That's what got me the gig at
Speaker 1: Fango was this bloated Night of the Demons retrospective. I
Speaker 1: wrote and sent to Chris, I'm like, can I write
Speaker 1: I hear you're heading in his editor? Yeah, and still anyway,
Speaker 1: Night of the Demons. I loved those movies so much,
Speaker 1: and so I would have I already had all the contacts,
Speaker 1: and when I heard that it was being released, I'm like, oh, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, it's already done. I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: So that that was one I wish the Halloween box set.
Speaker 1: We're not talking twenty twenty. I did work on that
Speaker 1: four K set. I worked on Resurrection on that one,
Speaker 1: but I wish I could have done that whole box set. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a time when that was discussed, and that's
Speaker 1: a great regret. But you brought up what was the
Speaker 1: one you brought up? When you were going through that list?
Speaker 1: You were like, and I was like, oh, man, I
Speaker 1: wish I could have worked on that. You just brought
Speaker 1: one up a little bit ago. I mean, it's always happening, man,
Speaker 1: It's always happening. Because there's so many films that have
Speaker 1: only been available on Bear Bones releases where the stories
Speaker 1: have never been heard, and I'm like, oh, let's talk
Speaker 1: to the guy who taught the dog to do the basketball, shot,
Speaker 1: air bud or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get like that with a bunch of titles.
Speaker 2: And then the other thing is I'll get with you know,
Speaker 2: get all excited about something and realize, oh, it's an
Speaker 2: MGM title. Yeah, that means nothing is going to happen.
Speaker 1: And some of them I wish I could revisit, like
Speaker 1: I wish I could go back and recut some things
Speaker 1: I wish to say. I was talking so much with
Speaker 1: Crispin during the production of the Willard Disc and his dad,
Speaker 1: his late dad, and Crispin's was so down to do it,
Speaker 1: but he was stuck overseas buying a castle. That's a
Speaker 1: real it happens, that's a real story, and so we
Speaker 1: missed our flights, missed, you could say. And it's it's
Speaker 1: heartbreaking because I really wanted to do a really robust
Speaker 1: tribute to him on that and someday I would love
Speaker 1: to do that in some form. But let's get back
Speaker 1: into that when I was working. Just the list is
Speaker 1: so long of titles that I wish I could go
Speaker 1: back and add more to or have been a part of.
Speaker 1: But I really love watching the work that all these
Speaker 1: other folks do too, because I get sick of what
Speaker 1: I do and seeing. You know, I don't like to
Speaker 1: revisit the things that I've made after they're done, and
Speaker 1: so it's in a way it's better if someone else
Speaker 1: gets like Knight of the Demons, Yeah, because then I
Speaker 1: can watch it and enjoy it. Whereas I've always described
Speaker 1: this thing, I don't know if I said this last
Speaker 1: time we talked, but I've always felt that working in
Speaker 1: this realm, it's like entering a relationship over and over
Speaker 1: again that you know is doomed. Like imagine getting involved
Speaker 1: with someone and knowing when it's going to end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I get, Yes, I get the opportunity to
Speaker 1: work on these movies I love, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: spend so much time with them. I'm going to be
Speaker 1: pouring over frame by frame, trying to find the right cuts,
Speaker 1: the right moments, the right quotes. I will have seen
Speaker 1: it so many times that by the time it's done,
Speaker 1: I can't almost bear to look at it again, at
Speaker 1: least for a while. And there are some movies that
Speaker 1: have countered that experience, but a lot of them it's
Speaker 1: still like it was such an intense window of time,
Speaker 1: such an intense relationship in such a short period that
Speaker 1: it's almost like I just need time away from it.
Speaker 1: And so it's kind of tragic in a way like that,
Speaker 1: where I'd like, Oh, I can't wait to work on
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever movie, and then knowing that in
Speaker 1: a matter of months it's going to be this breakup.
Speaker 1: It's kind of sad. So in a way, it's nice
Speaker 1: when other people get hired for stuff I love. I
Speaker 1: guess is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: I feel that immensely two more things. I'll take the
Speaker 2: easier one first. And in your mind, what makes a
Speaker 2: good supplemental feature.
Speaker 1: Conser iteration for the person being interviewed, the people being interviewed,
Speaker 1: not just phoning it in with the same rote questions
Speaker 1: like research it enough to know what other people have
Speaker 1: already covered, especially if it's been covered a lot. So
Speaker 1: I think that the best special features present someone with
Speaker 1: sincerity and it follows their lead in the stories they tell. Yep,
Speaker 1: because you can dictate through editing in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: But I've always found the journey following that person down
Speaker 1: whatever side roads they want to lead the discussion to
Speaker 1: be the most interesting stuff. And the special features, whether
Speaker 1: they're commentaries or documentaries that I'm proudest of are the
Speaker 1: ones where we really got to see the person there,
Speaker 1: where we really got through that sort of media of
Speaker 1: guys or normal pocket questions or answers that they pull out.
Speaker 1: There's been some really emotional moments, some really special moments
Speaker 1: with people, Like even back to the towards early on
Speaker 1: with Felyssa Rose at the end of the Sleepaway Camp documentary,
Speaker 1: because I'd love to ask people at the end, well,
Speaker 1: you know, after all of this, after all these years,
Speaker 1: and what does the movie mean to you now, and
Speaker 1: what's your relationship like with it? There's my rote question
Speaker 1: that I ask everybody. But by that time, you've established
Speaker 1: something special, and so that moment really settles in a
Speaker 1: different way if you've had that kind of in depth
Speaker 1: conversation up until that point, and I've there have been
Speaker 1: some just really amazing moments just with the end of
Speaker 1: the discussion as a result of that. So I think
Speaker 1: it's offering something new to the audience. I think it's
Speaker 1: offering the person being interviewed and experience for themselves, and
Speaker 1: I think it's showing respect to all involved to show
Speaker 1: up ready for whatever direction it's going to go. And
Speaker 1: I think I still think that Darkest Days is the
Speaker 1: greatest film documentary ever made about the making a Blade Runner.
Speaker 1: Charles has made an absolute masterpiece with that movie. And
Speaker 1: that's like my beacon is, Remember it can be this good.
Speaker 1: You'll never be there, but it can be this good,
Speaker 1: So never stop reaching and trying new things and whatever.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that would be my answer to that.
Speaker 2: As existential as it's going to be, especially following that,
Speaker 2: what is left for for justin in this industry? What
Speaker 2: is there left for you to tackle? What do you
Speaker 2: feel like you are missing.
Speaker 1: Nothing? If this ended tomorrow, I'd be okay if it
Speaker 1: ended now. Yeah, I mean it's really you're asking me
Speaker 1: the same kind of question that I asked these people
Speaker 1: that I was just talking about, and here I go.
Speaker 1: But it's given me a life that I never expected Ryan,
Speaker 1: And I'm not rich, and I don't I'm not out
Speaker 1: hobnobbing with celebrities or anything. But I'm really honored and
Speaker 1: proud to have been able to do what I have
Speaker 1: even with my limited means. None of this was a plan,
Speaker 1: just like with the record you asked at the beginning,
Speaker 1: like there was no plan to make an album. I
Speaker 1: became a cessed with creating something and then it happened.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how this whole road has been
Speaker 1: for me, has been just continuing to do and to
Speaker 1: try to do in a way that makes that serves
Speaker 1: the things we were just talking about in the last
Speaker 1: d answer.
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 1: Don't have any goals in it because I'm so surprised
Speaker 1: that any of it's happened. And it's an industry. There's
Speaker 1: no ladder to climb, right, And what matters to me
Speaker 1: is family and friends, and they're always going to be there.
Speaker 1: So if this poof whatever, I'll go back to working
Speaker 1: for a finance company or whatever else I need to do.
Speaker 1: But I'll always look back at it fondly and be
Speaker 1: so grateful for what I've been afforded in this because
Speaker 1: this guy from Iowa shouldn't have been a part of
Speaker 1: it at all, and that's how it's happened. Though, So
Speaker 1: I don't know, bad answer, terrible answer for that great question.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not though. It's one of those things
Speaker 2: that there are many reasons to do this sort of thing,
Speaker 2: and I think that speaks to the kind of person
Speaker 2: you are, the kind of person that I am about
Speaker 2: this is I never sought out doing a lot of
Speaker 2: this stuff. It was mostly just it happened that I
Speaker 2: needed to help somebody, and suddenly there's opportunities that come
Speaker 2: from that. And I don't have the goal of, you know,
Speaker 2: making a film like I've never been somebody that's desired
Speaker 2: to be a director. I've the same thing as probably
Speaker 2: many of the people in the chat tonight, Like I
Speaker 2: did like stupid, silly short films with friends and stuff
Speaker 2: like that in high school. But I've never thought I'm
Speaker 2: going to write a film and see a play in
Speaker 2: a festival or anything like that. And there are people
Speaker 2: in this industry that are doing stuff like this that
Speaker 2: have those goals that they are seeing this as, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm building up skills to be able to do that.
Speaker 2: Someday I will be releasing a film of these people
Speaker 2: that do it to meet celebrities. There are many of
Speaker 2: these people that do this to get rich, and you're
Speaker 2: in the wrong industry because it does not.
Speaker 1: Pay, I would guess, though. I mean, I really want
Speaker 1: to say that after the years of meeting people on
Speaker 1: all kinds of levels of success, and most notably and
Speaker 1: importantly to me, after being part of so many film
Speaker 1: festivals over time that are conventions that have film festivals
Speaker 1: and stuff. Most people aren't.
Speaker 2: In it for those reasons, No, most or not.
Speaker 1: The filmmakers that I meet, the people I'm lucky enough
Speaker 1: to sit with, I can't even think of how many
Speaker 1: of them even talk about money, right, I mean, I
Speaker 1: really Yeah. This is an industry that involves an orchestra
Speaker 1: to make anything happen. And that back to your about
Speaker 1: Reverend and how I do it. It is the orchestra,
Speaker 1: it is, and every piece is important equally in that
Speaker 1: right to get a movie made on any level is
Speaker 1: a fucking miracle, and it's harder now than ever to
Speaker 1: do something substantial. We have the means now in our pockets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's movies being shot on cameras that are affordable finally,
Speaker 1: So that's great. There's an economy to that. More kids
Speaker 1: in more backyard shooting, more stuff, bring it on. I'm
Speaker 1: happy for that, But I don't know how many people
Speaker 1: who get into this business aiming to make money really
Speaker 1: end up happy, not just because the business is famous
Speaker 1: for eating people alive, but also because if you can't
Speaker 1: be satisfied with what you're doing, on your personal creative level. Yep,
Speaker 1: then I don't. There's not going to be joy here
Speaker 1: because there is no finish line, there's no arrival date.
Speaker 1: Even people who get the Star on the Walk of
Speaker 1: Fame or whatever that's paid for that's campaigned for, you
Speaker 1: buy those right. There are awards that mean something, but
Speaker 1: it's just people who want to it. It goes back
Speaker 1: to what I was talking about with the column for
Speaker 1: remind magazine, where it's like, I have such deep reverence
Speaker 1: for these people who wanted to create some crazy theme
Speaker 1: park on the side of a mountain that's like a
Speaker 1: Wild West town that has a shootout six times a
Speaker 1: day and has a roller coaster off the side of
Speaker 1: a mountain in Maggie Valley, North Carolina, ghost town in
Speaker 1: the sky. Anyone who has an idea and wants to
Speaker 1: create something to bring joy to others, ultimately they have
Speaker 1: to first be serving their own creative instincts in drive
Speaker 1: and I for me and from what I've seen over
Speaker 1: the years, it just seems like money doesn't really outside
Speaker 1: of the ability to create things when you have it.
Speaker 1: I don't talk to filmmakers about how much they make.
Speaker 1: It doesn't come up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, like most of the times when it
Speaker 2: comes up, it's literally I just need enough to be
Speaker 2: able to fund that next project, right, And that alone
Speaker 2: shows why they're in it. It's literally just I just
Speaker 2: want to be creating. What can I do to get
Speaker 2: that done?
Speaker 1: To continue to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, incredible. This has been a really fun companion
Speaker 2: to the last conversation cannot wait two and a half
Speaker 2: years for time.
Speaker 1: Were there any questions that popped up in the chat?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see the chat, So were there
Speaker 1: anything in there that we needed.
Speaker 2: To I've asked a lot of I think most people
Speaker 2: have been captivated by the conversation, and it's the feedback
Speaker 2: is slowed down just because we're the stories, right yeah,
Speaker 2: not even like a couple of weeks ago. We went
Speaker 2: five hours. So yeah, this is a long showy by default,
Speaker 2: I guess. But I mean the stories themselves are are enough.
Speaker 2: I mean they don't we don't have supplemental features for
Speaker 2: supplemental features, so it's it's always interesting to hear about
Speaker 2: black light hallways and dog bites.
Speaker 1: Crazy life man, crazy life.
Speaker 2: Oh justin this has been amazing. Everybody. Please go check
Speaker 2: out the album and description. The book in the description
Speaker 2: the website and the description follow reverend You're Are you
Speaker 2: mostly active on Facebook or is there anywhere else you want
Speaker 2: people to follow you for updates?
Speaker 1: Facebook and Instagram are the two. And then the band
Speaker 1: Fantom light Keeper is on ban camp on my website
Speaker 1: if you I don't know if I mentioned this already,
Speaker 1: but if you order the the vinyls limited to one hundred.
Speaker 1: They're print pressed on ghost white vinyl from Waxwork, and
Speaker 1: I still have maybe just under half of those left.
Speaker 1: It came out I think a week ago and I'm
Speaker 1: down to already, so, and there's also CDs there, but
Speaker 1: if you buy either one of those from my site,
Speaker 1: the CD or the vinyl, then you also get a
Speaker 1: digital download of the whole album, and that comes with
Speaker 1: a bonus track that's not available anywhere else. That being said,
Speaker 1: it's also available, excuse me, on band camp, so you
Speaker 1: can get it there. But on my side, I have
Speaker 1: samples and things if you want to hear some of
Speaker 1: the songs and my crazy noise that I make with it.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spotlighting that, man, I appreciate it. It's
Speaker 1: been a hustle to get this thing out there and
Speaker 1: it's really cool to chat with you about it well
Speaker 1: and everything else.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've talked about it, but I feel
Speaker 2: like I've heard you talk about somewhere else about imposter syndrome.
Speaker 2: And it's something I struggle with immensely, literally on like
Speaker 2: a daily basis. Not I don't know why I'm in
Speaker 2: a room, I don't know why I'm having shirt first exactly,
Speaker 2: and it's like, sure, okay, I'll deal with it, but
Speaker 2: it still feels weird. And marketing myself is one of
Speaker 2: those things that I I don't like telling people about
Speaker 2: anything that I do. I just want you to know
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this is such a strange thing for me
Speaker 1: because if you think about we're talking about the orchestra
Speaker 1: of people involved with making film and documentary and these
Speaker 1: awesome team members I have around all over and with
Speaker 1: this though, it's just me, and so when I to
Speaker 1: answer for it, it's it's it's it's it feels so vulnerable,
Speaker 1: is what I've talked about before. And when Greg and
Speaker 1: Pearl had me on Land of the Creeps, I got
Speaker 1: straight up emotional about it because I was still dealing
Speaker 1: with this being a thing now because It's one thing
Speaker 1: to create something and be in the mania of its making.
Speaker 1: But then when it's done and it's all sent off
Speaker 1: to press and waxwork is working on it and the
Speaker 1: CDs are being pressed, and it's like this is out
Speaker 1: of your hands now. And then I had this moment
Speaker 1: of realizing, like, God, what have I done? Like why
Speaker 1: did I do this? And I so yeah, I especially
Speaker 1: with this music thing. It's I'm getting a little better
Speaker 1: about it and my feelings about it, but it just
Speaker 1: it does feel extremely vulnerable for me. And even though
Speaker 1: there's it sounds crazy because there's no words in the music,
Speaker 1: it's instrumental stuff, but it really was. I think it's
Speaker 1: something I had to go through, and I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that until two things happened. One was an email I
Speaker 1: got from Elias Marriage, who made Shadow the Vampire and Begotten,
Speaker 1: and he was telling me about his experience listening to
Speaker 1: the album, and it was the sweetest thing, but part
Speaker 1: of it completely flew over my head where he was
Speaker 1: seeing or hearing something that I now am amazed that
Speaker 1: he caught. And then when I was talking to Greg
Speaker 1: and Pearl and landed the Creeps and they were telling
Speaker 1: me what they heard in the music, and then I
Speaker 1: just realized that this kind of needed to happen. Similar
Speaker 1: to Elias when he told me about making Begotten, he said,
Speaker 1: that's a film that had to move through him. It
Speaker 1: had to happen, and it was a process. He didn't
Speaker 1: know how to turn off at the end because he
Speaker 1: was He didn't know how or why or when to
Speaker 1: say enough is enough. And a friend had to intervene
Speaker 1: and get him, like pry his hands away from editing
Speaker 1: on the thing, like it just has to be done
Speaker 1: at some point, got to give it to the world.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 1: So not to get too heady about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And this is fucking instrumental, weirdo surf stuff, but it
Speaker 1: really meant a lot to me to make it. And
Speaker 1: you're hearing it basically chronologically as you listened through the
Speaker 1: album as I recorded the tracks. The only two that
Speaker 1: are flipped of the first two, but everything else, it's
Speaker 1: like the pro sess of my making it is right
Speaker 1: there in real time. And it was an immense joy
Speaker 1: to make that. And so I don't know that I'll
Speaker 1: ever be comfortable with the guitar in my hands instead
Speaker 1: of drumsticks, but I sure as hell do love making
Speaker 1: some noise with this, and I'm excited to continue doing it. Well.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, so thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: On that note, other than we'll see you next Thursday.
Speaker 2: When do we get a good release of a gotten
Speaker 2: God damn it, somebody put that out, we'll talk on
Speaker 2: that note. Have a good week, because I got to
Speaker 2: talk to Justin after this otro. We'll seey'all next Thursday.
Speaker 2: Have a good one, be safe, see that. Thank you
Speaker 2: for watching the Disconnected. On the way out, make sure
Speaker 2: that you are subscribed to the channel, that you've liked
Speaker 2: the video, and that you've copied the link to be
Speaker 2: able to share with someone else that may appreciate this.
Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Tumbleweeds and TV Cowboys. My name
Speaker 3: is Hunter. In this podcast, I'll be joined by a
Speaker 3: different guest each week to discuss a classic Western movie
Speaker 3: or TV show. I've been a fan of classic westerns
Speaker 3: for as long as I can remember, and in recent
Speaker 3: years they've become very nostalgic for me. I love the aesthetic,
Speaker 3: the tropes, and I love seeing different filmmakers takes on
Speaker 3: them at their best. They're incredibly entertaining, rewatchable, and some
Speaker 3: of my all time favorite movies are Westerns. We'll mostly
Speaker 3: focus on Western movies made in Hollywood, but will also
Speaker 3: be covering spaghetti westerns and one thing I'm very excited
Speaker 3: to get into our Western TV shows. We've got some
Speaker 3: amazing guests coming on the show, film professors, historians, and
Speaker 3: podcasters and Tumbleweeds and TV Cowboys is part of the
Speaker 3: Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network and many guests on the
Speaker 3: show will be from other shows on the network.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1: To hear more shows from the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network,
Speaker 1: please select the link in the description