WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.519 Hey, everybody, welcome back to episode twenty of Relationships Is 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:09.919 a Bitch. It's March fourth, twenty twenty five. 3 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:16.280 March fourth, Wow Wow on fest in like a lion. 4 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:21.559 Where spring we were almost in almost yeah, like this 5 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:24.039 weekend the clox over. I feel like we turned the 6 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:27.559 clocks the other day. But maam, Relationships as a Bitch 7 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.320 is brought to you by the Gemini Near Me app, 8 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:32.399 and we're going to talk about the Gemini near Me 9 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:34.560 App a little bit today. It's the self Love and 10 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:41.159 Relationship Intelligence app inspired by our own relationship expert, Arena Wood, 11 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:44.840 and that app has allowed thousands of people to fall 12 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:48.880 in love with themselves. So I am here with my 13 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:53.560 pal a Ja Benza and our relationship guru Arena Wood 14 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:58.200 on what is an important occasion for Arena and the 15 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:00.679 Gemini near Me App. We're gonna get into that in 16 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:05.040 just a minute. First, I wanted to talk about something 17 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:08.480 that happened to me over the weekend and that plays 18 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:11.319 into all of this. So I get up Saturday morning 19 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:16.599 and I'm on the ground like old men should should do, 20 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:21.840 doing my back end, my core exercises, watching Fox and 21 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:25.400 Friends weekend. When a story comes on and the story 22 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:31.439 said AI chatbots posing as therapists could have quote dangerous 23 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:36.799 and violent consequences for patients, and that's followed with the 24 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:41.560 ever present experts say wow. And then a subheading to 25 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:45.719 the story said that fourteen year old dies by suicide 26 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:52.599 last year after speaking with AI claiming to be licensed therapist. 27 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:57.000 So those are the headlines in that story, which definitely 28 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:02.319 caught my attention. But the story itself claimed that there's 29 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:06.359 a lack of research in this area and that again 30 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:11.240 experts say, quote, people need other people, not robots to 31 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:15.479 help them. There's a doctor, Kevin Gilliland that Fox interviewed 32 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:18.159 for this thing, who's a clinical psychologist, and he said 33 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:24.240 that this AI chatbots doing therapy is a misplaced tool, 34 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:27.879 that there's no substitute for human beings. And so my 35 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.960 initial thought when I was watching this thing was that, 36 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:34.319 you know, the technology is threatening to disrupt the status 37 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:38.400 quo within that therapy wellness space, and that those that 38 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:42.439 operate in the space that charge their patients three hundred, 39 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:46.360 four hundred, even more per hour if you're in Beverly 40 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:49.560 Hills is probably a thousand, and that those people are 41 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.840 very concerned at the thought of some kind of AI 42 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:57.120 dispensing similar advice for a fraction of the costs that 43 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:02.080 they charge their patients. And so you shouldn't consumers and 44 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:05.639 patients be given choices and decide for themselves the best 45 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.680 form of care to receive. So so I want to 46 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:11.759 I want to bring this back now to Arena and 47 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:14.840 to the Gemini Near Me app, and to the avatar 48 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:18.159 that we've talked about every so often on this show 49 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:22.840 that has been released now and uh and is in production, 50 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:25.960 and both AJ and I I think have spent a 51 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.759 considerable amount of time with the avatar. I know what 52 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:32.560 I think is very very different about what Arena has 53 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:35.479 done and what the Gemini near Me app does versus 54 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:39.120 what was contained in this Fox story. But rather than 55 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:42.319 ME spit it out or AJ spit it out, Arena, 56 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:44.719 why don't you, why don't you give us a couple 57 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:49.520 of major points of differentiation between what you are doing 58 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:54.560 and what these so called AI chatbots are doing. The Foxes, referring. 59 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:58.319 To Mike, thank you so much for bringing this news, 60 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:01.000 actually because now I know you wait up very early. 61 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.560 We watched that episode played with the dogs at six thirty. 62 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.800 I guess I was actually shocked listening to that because 63 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:12.599 people in America, the culture of American people, you don't 64 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.560 put your problems on the front. You go and work 65 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:19.079 it out with the therapists. There are different points of 66 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:22.920 view about the therapy. There is a category of people 67 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:26.319 who absolutely rejected because they don't like to be dependful 68 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:29.519 of anybody. They don't believe in this profession at all. 69 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.759 There are people who take it wise, but it's a 70 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:37.639 very short category of people who like to visit their 71 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:41.240 psychologists to work it out and can leave the professional 72 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.199 alone and live their lives. And the third category, which 73 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.879 is extreme, they want to be in the therapy almost 74 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:49.800 every day and they want to call their therapists day night, 75 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:53.519 because they are not able to make their own decisions. 76 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:58.800 So I investigated the culture. I investigated the whole idea 77 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:03.600 of being in therapy with the person you trust. And 78 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:09.040 I tell you that first fall what makes Gemini em 79 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:09.920 me very different. 80 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:11.399 We have restrictions. 81 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:16.240 AI arena is not allowed to talk to you about 82 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:20.920 anything else but relationship with yourself and others. You have 83 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:24.439 to understand this app if for self work, if for 84 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:27.920 self investigation, for self growth, if you are ready to 85 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:31.879 work on yourself, this app is for you. Second, we 86 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:38.079 are very seriously restricted for sexual and suicidal cases. So 87 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.519 whenever people are asking you way too many things about 88 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:48.040 sexology or something that would be too medical, ai Avatar 89 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:52.240 Arena says you would should go and use a therapist 90 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:52.839 for that. 91 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:57.519 A medical person or sexologists. So that's the second thing 92 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:58.639 that makes you different. 93 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:03.720 Third thing is Arena ai Avatar is always applying to 94 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:04.600 your emotions. 95 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:06.720 We are emotional people, and. 96 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:09.839 It's not about the occasions and things and events that 97 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.920 are happening to us. It's more about what you're experiencing 98 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:13.920 at this moment. 99 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:16.759 So Irina AI. 100 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:19.959 Is programmed by me for twelve years of consulin to 101 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:24.120 always apply to your emotional side because unfortunately, what I've 102 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:28.839 seen through working with singles and couples for years, people 103 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:34.800 are closing their hearts and they don't recognize their true emotions. 104 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.879 And this Avatar, it's not about giving you advices, it's 105 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:41.360 about art of questioning you. 106 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:44.639 Sure, so Rina, I mean a couple of things. One, 107 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:51.560 is your method significantly different than the method employed by 108 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:55.360 these pots that are the chat pots that are supposedly 109 00:06:55.399 --> 00:07:00.000 providing therapy. And how much does it cost to get 110 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:05.399 get access to your avatar versus going to see a therapist. 111 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:10.720 Sure, My goal by creating this avatar that is programmed 112 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:14.560 by me with my twelve years working experience, is not 113 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:18.480 to give you any advices or answers or tips. I 114 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:22.439 believe that all knowledge about yourself what you should do 115 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:25.920 in your life is hidden within you. So my avatar 116 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:32.360 is programmed to ask you concrete questions to open you 117 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:36.199 up to apply to your emotions so you can get 118 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:40.600 your own answers by yourself. I want to make you independent. 119 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:44.160 I want you to be free, not from psychology. If 120 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.079 you need to book me, you can always do that 121 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:50.879 or apply any other psychologists. Because energy is very important 122 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:56.120 in healing, in communication, exchange of energies, but most part 123 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.759 of the job, and it applies very well to American independent. 124 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:03.959 Tell you that you have your self work self help 125 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:06.560 in your pocket, whether at two o'clock in the night 126 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:08.199 when you had a fight with your wife and you 127 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:11.120 can't fall asleep, or you had an argument in the 128 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:15.399 traffic jam with somebody else, a stranger and you need 129 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.639 somebody to help you to come down to understand yourself better. 130 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:21.079 That your self work and self work will never be 131 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:22.600 done by anybody else. 132 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:23.680 That's great, you know. 133 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:27.040 And I'll tell you I've gone and seen a shrink 134 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:30.639 several times and I really enjoyed it. But back in 135 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.519 the day, I wasn't covered for that sort of time. 136 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.240 Did you pay, by the way, Well, it was. That's interesting. 137 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:38.039 It was like, this is twenty years ago, but it 138 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.240 was still two hundred bucks in change every session. He 139 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:43.120 wanted to see me twice a week, and I'm going, 140 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.399 that's two thousand a month. I don't have that, you know, 141 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:49.720 and the fact that this is twenty years ago. But 142 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.480 if I'd known that down the road, I could have, 143 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.320 you know, an app like yours to speak to at 144 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:59.240 those crucial hours where you know it is one o'clock 145 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:01.159 in the morning and you know you're arguing with your 146 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.679 wife or you want to drink whatever it is that's 147 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:06.799 going on in your life that makes you harried and crazy. 148 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:09.879 It's it's important that you know you can respond to 149 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.080 somebody or somebody can respond to you at all hours. 150 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:16.720 For ten bucks a month. There's just no comparison. There's 151 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:17.559 no comparison. 152 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.120 And Mike, I know you that you've been to a 153 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:25.720 family terpist. So how much did you pay for two visitors? 154 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.279 And there's no telling double trouble. Yet this family has 155 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:35.639 spent on therapy. I'm a skeptic to begin with, so 156 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.919 whether it's stuff I've done with my wife or stuff 157 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:43.720 we've done family wise, I always feel like by the 158 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:47.480 second or the third session that you know, I'm just 159 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:52.919 getting roped into never ending, you know, because my wife 160 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:55.080 will come out and show feel good about what got 161 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.480 talked about in the hour, and great, so let's line 162 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:02.120 up the next four hundred dollar hour to feel good 163 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:07.080 walking out. But I think when I sit and reflect 164 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:12.519 on the things that have impacted me in my life 165 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:16.399 and modified my behavior or got me to see the 166 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:22.679 world differently, they're all conclusions I came to myself after 167 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:28.120 being exposed two things. They're not a reaction from me 168 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.159 to someone telling me this is what you need to do. 169 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:38.080 It's like, you know, the parent who's the authoritarian versus 170 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:42.720 the parent who's the coach, who's heavily involved but isn't 171 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:46.480 going to give you the answers for you to write down. 172 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:49.120 I'm not going to do your homework for you. I'll 173 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:51.600 work with you while you're doing your homework to help 174 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:54.440 guide you in the direction so that at the end 175 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.960 of the day when I'm not there, you know how 176 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.159 to do algebra or you know how, and so I 177 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:03.000 really think that's at the core of what you do. 178 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:07.480 It's getting the person to look within themselves for the 179 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:13.080 answers by asking them the right questions. And that's really 180 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:17.320 the best way to learn anything. And when it comes 181 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:20.919 to learning about yourself to help guide you, I can't 182 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:24.159 think of another way that would be better. Maybe what 183 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.759 everybody doesn't like is that that path can be pretty 184 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:33.639 reasonably praised because I can pay a month the app, 185 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:35.679 and that's the most beautiful side of it. 186 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:37.960 There is a month, right yeah, yeah, you. 187 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:40.799 Know, relying on way too much on somebody else, whether 188 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:44.159 a therapist or an if emily member, it takes out 189 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:49.720 the responsibility of yourself from your life. And I have 190 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:51.759 to tell you this is the beauty of this app. 191 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:55.159 That's why I put all the self discovery instruments together. 192 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:58.600 Started from AI Avatar program for you guys, for all 193 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.559 people on the planet. Because I love to work fast, 194 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:03.320 fist people I don't want when they. 195 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:04.080 Come back forever. 196 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.879 And I know that if I make you happy, you 197 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:09.440 will tell it to your friend. And that's how energy works. 198 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.480 So but you still need some kind of support. But 199 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.000 let's say, because I work with people who were abused, 200 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.799 I p work with people who are alcoholics and so on, 201 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:21.320 and they need kind of support non stop, and I 202 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:24.159 can't be there for all of them. So that's why 203 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.000 they need somebody like equality support. And that's unbelievable because 204 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.720 they're actually talking to themselves. They're talking to their heart, 205 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:34.080 to their soul. Plus all other segments of the app, 206 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:38.840 whether it's astrology, numerology, or daily coaching exercises to understand 207 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.759 your temper, to understand what are your life goals, what 208 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:43.559 are your values, what do you really want to do 209 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.519 in life? How to get there? I programmed these for 210 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:49.559 people who are ready to work on themselves and they 211 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:53.559 don't have opportunity to pay somebody else four hundred bucks, 212 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:56.559 or they working hard and they can't wait two weeks 213 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:01.200 to do so, or maybe they're sensitive, they shy, and 214 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:05.039 it's not everybody can open up after something happened in 215 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.120 their trauma therapy wild childhood. So this is the app 216 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.960 for people who are ready to work and understood that 217 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:16.600 nobody else can heal them by themselves. Nobody else can 218 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.440 take out the tresh from their soul and mind by 219 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:21.600 themselves and everybody. 220 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:25.120 My experience anyway, is looking for a shortcut, and they 221 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:27.799 oftentimes are looking for a magic pill. Literally. 222 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:28.399 Yep. 223 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:33.159 I had an experience where I started over a decade 224 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.440 ago taking vib ance. 225 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:37.480 It's like, yeah, I tried that. I did that for 226 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:37.919 a while. 227 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:40.720 I was on it for ten years. Aje oh no, 228 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.080 I was like ten years taking it every day, and 229 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:50.480 when we moved to Florida, it became such a pain 230 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:55.080 in the ass. Yet a prescription filled because, as the 231 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.720 pharmacist said to me when I questioned her at Walgreens 232 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.159 on why it was so difficult to get it, she said, 233 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:06.120 because every single middle school and high school student is 234 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:06.600 on it. 235 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:07.720 Oh that's all right. 236 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:09.960 They can never keep up with the damn supply. So 237 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:14.159 I finally said it, I'm getting off of this after 238 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:18.279 ten years, and I just cold turkey got off about 239 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:18.840 a month ago. 240 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:21.320 It's not easy to do. I was on five vance 241 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.480 years ago. It did great. I lost twenty pounds. 242 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:26.519 I worked my ass off in the gym, but then 243 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:29.279 I got pneumonia and I lost another twenty in the hospital. 244 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:32.039 But I liked the advance. But it is speed you're 245 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:32.840 taking an emfety. 246 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.039 Every bad part of getting off of it is that 247 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:39.519 opposite of what you're talking about. I probably gained ten 248 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:43.960 pounds two weeks because all of a sudden, I had 249 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.519 this appetite I haven't had in a decade. I was 250 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:48.120 eating anything that wasn't moving. 251 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:51.360 Yeah. I know avance is tough, but hey. 252 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:54.559 I finally I've gotten that back into you know, and 253 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.679 and started to get my eating habits to where they 254 00:14:57.679 --> 00:14:59.159 need to be. And I'm so glad I'm off of 255 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:02.039 that after. But that's another big part of this is 256 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:05.679 everybody wants a pill and you go and the therapist 257 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.519 gives you the prescription you want. Yeah, yeah, on them 258 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.000 what you want, and they're just they. 259 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:13.799 You know. 260 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:16.679 As much guys as I love America, you know, I'm 261 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.279 a big fan of your country and I always praise it, 262 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:23.679 but this is a spetty solution. Whatever you eat in 263 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:28.519 your car, you have a fast coffee, you consume fast food, 264 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:32.360 you have fast relationship. That's what I disagree with because 265 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:36.159 I see big soul in this nation, but people as 266 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:38.840 scared to open it up and they want something fast. 267 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:41.360 Oh okay, I can't fall asleep. Let's take a pill. Okay, 268 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:43.759 you know he irritated. He pissed me off. I'm not 269 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:45.960 going to talk to him. I'll take another pill and 270 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:49.879 kids young generation they already I used in my entire 271 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:53.799 life and it was family related problems, and I felt horrible. 272 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:56.360 I tried ENTI the present when I was twenty seven 273 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:59.799 three months. It was two months to get there to 274 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:04.360 start feeling something, or one month, sorry, two months way 275 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:07.799 out and three months of usage. That was the worst 276 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.279 experience of my life. I'm not touching drugs, but I 277 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:13.840 think it's much worse than any drug. 278 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:16.440 What drug was it, I don't even know. 279 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:19.399 It was in Ukraine, brintelex, syper lex, something like that. 280 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:24.919 Probably we have different, maybe something we have zypar lex printelex. 281 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.200 It kind of makes you active, you feel like king 282 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:30.399 of the world and everything is wonderful, but you are 283 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:34.240 disconnected with reality and you disconnected. What until the persons 284 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:36.440 they do for you. Of course there are cases when 285 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:40.440 they're in need. I don't touch this medical field, but 286 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.720 I'm talking about they created a trend of it. 287 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.360 Well, you're in a bad mood, take a pill. No, 288 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:46.120 you don't do that. 289 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:50.480 Try to heal yourself, Try to talk to your friend, 290 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:53.559 to talk to yourself, to understand, to be connected with 291 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:57.240 the nature. And after if all those things never worked 292 00:16:57.240 --> 00:17:01.159 out and you came through deep trauma and you're traumatized, 293 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.600 maybe partially you needed well. 294 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:04.519 I tell you why. 295 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:09.079 I think this is even more important your avatar because 296 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:13.640 traditionally men have a hard time asking for help or 297 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:16.880 even telling their buddies. You know, I'm in a bad spot. 298 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:20.039 I feel this. I'm nervous about that. I know Mike 299 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:21.880 fifty years. I didn't know he was signed by Vans 300 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:23.920 for ten years. We just don't talk to each other 301 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:27.400 like that. So you're right fact that there's an avatar 302 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:29.720 of yours. I think a lot of men will take 303 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.720 advantage of that because we're less likely to reach out 304 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.279 for help and sit down and say to somebody, I'm 305 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:38.279 just not doing well in this area. I need to 306 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:40.480 be better. It's hard for us to be that way. 307 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:43.279 We're supposed to be strong every day. So I think 308 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:47.039 the fact that your avatars out there, it's so much 309 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:50.519 easier to just appeal to you. It helps that you're 310 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:53.960 beautiful and smart, but it's so much easier to do 311 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.839 that and not have to feel embarrassed or less of 312 00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:59.759 a man if you sit across for a man in therapy, 313 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.000 or you talk to a robot. It's it's just it's 314 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:04.839 so much better to deal with an app, like an 315 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:06.039 avatar like yours. 316 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:08.759 Yeah, that's why I was dressed up in this suit. 317 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:12.599 You'll know how I'm going to look on the avatar. Yeah, 318 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.039 we recreated it with this outfit. 319 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:17.079 It's good, it's good, it's good. 320 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:22.160 Well, look, folks, if you haven't already, really recommend you 321 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:24.759 give the app a try, especially if you're somebody who's 322 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:28.559 regularly going to therapy and and you're you know, you 323 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:33.160 fit the description we've we've talked about here. Watching news 324 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:37.960 in the morning is like it's pharmaceutical ad after pharmaceutical 325 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:41.400 ad after pharmaceutical lad after pharmaceuticallad, each each one a 326 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:44.839 worse commercial than the than the one before. Ye are 327 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:49.160 we're all taking away too much stuff. Working with Arena 328 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:53.000 has helped me to recognize that I don't need all 329 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:57.599 that shit. No, I need occasionally to bounce something off 330 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:00.680 someone I trust who's not going to give me the answer, 331 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:02.880 but it's going to help me. If you think about 332 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:06.359 the way I need to talk to myself about the 333 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:10.839 situation and resolve it. Besides working, the other thing I 334 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:14.279 love about it is it's it's not four hundred dollars 335 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:15.839 an hour to do it. 336 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:21.119 It's very easy, that accessible, affordable for all people because 337 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:22.200 that's what people. 338 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:22.799 Need, they need to. 339 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:26.839 Kenny called me like a week ago when it came out, 340 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:28.880 so and he's like, you've got to check out the 341 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:31.680 avatar right now, And I did, and it was like. 342 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:33.599 This is so wild. 343 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:36.839 It's just amazing now that I know you so well 344 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:39.000 and other people don't but they're getting to know you 345 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:42.559 through this podcast. It's really remarkable. How great you guys 346 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:45.839 nail this. That The fact that it's it's literally you 347 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:49.440 speaking to me or anybody else's it's it's a very 348 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:51.519 welcome addition for for real. 349 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:53.920 Yeah, I got I got the special version of it. 350 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:59.960 Aj Wa winks at me in a case, show me 351 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:04.599 a little bit. You gotta tell you that dollars a month? 352 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.400 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 353 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:08.720 And to be a close friend of the. 354 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:12.200 Fire, Yeah, that's it's worth it. 355 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:16.519 Membership has its privileges exactly exactly, well, unless you've been 356 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:19.400 living on a submarine. There was something pretty exciting that 357 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:23.720 went on uh Friday, afternoon in Arena. Uh, you're right 358 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:27.519 in the middle of this one too, since it involves 359 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.960 for your home country. So on Friday afternoon, the American public, 360 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:35.319 in actually the world, uh, at least within hours the world, 361 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:38.920 was invited into the Oval Office for what was to 362 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:42.839 be a formal signing of a minerals deal between the 363 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:46.759 United States and Ukraine. And it was such a brilliant 364 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:54.039 and simple idea sign this deal. It creates an interest 365 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:59.680 for the United States in Ukraine that actually will protect 366 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:03.119 you crane for the long haul, because with US having 367 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:07.119 a deep financial interest in the country, the US is 368 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:10.440 going to protect that deep financial interest. And so you know, 369 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:14.440 it's it accomplishes sort of the equivalent of joining NATO 370 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:18.480 without joining NATO. But the meeting became a global spectacle, 371 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:22.279 and the right wing media has blamed, has blamed Zelenski obviously, 372 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:25.960 and the left wing media has blamed everything on Trump advance. 373 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:28.839 And AJ, you spent a lot of time considering the 374 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:32.519 question of bleam and what this means moving forward. And 375 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:35.599 I don't know if you've dismantled the whole hour or 376 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:39.039 what are your thoughts on I just went down Friday. 377 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:43.359 I've spoken about it and look, I've I've warned people 378 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:44.200 for years. 379 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:47.400 I clued people into the kind of man Trump is, 380 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:51.000 and maybe people haven't seen this particular side of him 381 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:54.720 and moments like this when he feels slighted and disrespected 382 00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:55.359 and wronged. 383 00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:58.720 This is the guy. He is the guy that makes 384 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:02.400 the deals. He's the negotiat. You cannot be Celenski. Now. 385 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:05.799 Trump kept saying, we gave you three hundred and fifty billion. 386 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:09.359 It's not that much, but it's still at least two 387 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:10.000 hundred billion. 388 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.160 It's a lot. And Zlynsky can't figure out where one 389 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:15.519 hundred billion went. So you cannot come to the new 390 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.920 president's house, the White House with a new president. First 391 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:19.799 of all, I'm Italian. 392 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:21.720 He should have knocked on the door with his feet, 393 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:23.160 and he should have had a bunch of stuff in 394 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.880 his hands to give to Trump, to thank him and 395 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:26.559 thank America. 396 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:27.279 He didn't do that. 397 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:29.599 He looked like my ass with what he was wearing. 398 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:31.319 You got to put a suit on when you come 399 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:33.640 to see the president of the United States of America. 400 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:38.200 Then he starts over talking, rolling his eyes, shrugging, turning. 401 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:41.480