WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:05.719 Way wait. 2 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:43.759 A sad. 3 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:09.040 Welcome back to midnight Viewing, where this season we're taking 4 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:11.680 a look at George Ramiro's nineteen eighties television series Tales 5 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:14.599 from the Dark Side. Sharing the midnight view with me 6 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:16.719 are the Culture Cast Chris Statue. 7 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:18.799 I have no strings to hold me? 8 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.480 Also joining us as always the projection booths Mike White. 9 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:25.280 I don't have any strings to bet, but I will 10 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:26.359 bet two bandages. 11 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:30.239 Tonight we are taking a look at two more episodes 12 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:32.879 from season four, the final season of Tales from the 13 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.760 Dark Side. Of those are No Strings and the Grave 14 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:39.560 Robber No Strings. Season four, episode five, originally aired on 15 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:44.079 October the twenty fifth, nineteen eighty seven. It's their Halloween episode, 16 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:48.640 written and directed by David O'Dell, starring TJ. Castro Novo. 17 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:51.159 We're gonna talk about him in a second Barry Dennin, 18 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.120 Cameron Millser, and Bradley Fisher here listed as Brad Fisher, 19 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.879 friend of the podcast Brad Fisher. This is his second 20 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.239 appearance on the show. If you remember back in season one, 21 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.719 the Keenan Winn episode where the Devil came to take him, 22 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.560 he was the devil there. He is TJ. Castronova's right 23 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:07.560 hand man here, who's having the affair with his wife. 24 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.800 This is the story of a life size marionette puppeteer 25 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:13.639 who is rousted in the night for a command performance 26 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.280 for a newly crowned mafia boss. What did you think 27 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:17.120 of this one, Mike? 28 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:22.840 You know, for all the praise of the last couple 29 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.840 episodes we talked about on our previous episode, ooh, boy 30 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:29.319 o boy o boy, you know how fast those were, 31 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:32.680 this one was such a slog for me and I 32 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:36.080 just could see so many things coming from so far away. 33 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:38.800 I was very happy to see Barry Dennon. I think 34 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:41.560 he's great in things like the Shining He plays Patches, 35 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:45.960 Violot and Jesus for a superstar, very distinctive face. Very 36 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:50.479 happy to see him. But it just I killed a guy. Now. 37 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:53.000 I want you to make him a big puppet so 38 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:57.879 you can make him apologize and kiss my ass as 39 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:02.240 this puppet. No, just what are you doing? This is 40 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:06.000 so silly, so stupid. I don't know who talk me 41 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:08.479 out of it, fellas, Chris, What did you think I liked? 42 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:13.639 How stupid it was? I don't know. Father. To quote 43 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:16.039 the ever immortal Christian Bale, backed me up on this one, 44 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:18.120 Father Millon. This is a this is a Tales from 45 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:20.800 the Crypt episode masquerading is the Tales from the Dark 46 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:24.080 Side of This is like the some whacked out season 47 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:28.560 eight concept of Tales from the Crypt. Like it's it's strange. 48 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:31.840 There's probably there was something. I know there were puppet 49 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:34.280 adjacent or puppet episodes of Tales from the Crypt. I 50 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:38.120 don't think they ever had this exact conceit, but there 51 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:41.879 were people being controlled by puppets. There were people controlling puppets. 52 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:45.039 There were puppets on people's hands. I believe is Don 53 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:48.400 Rickles had his like twin brother on his hand at 54 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:54.120 one point. So puppets are nothing new to a. Yeah, 55 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:57.599 So I enjoyed how kind of bizarre and strange this was. 56 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:00.520 I bought into it, and I enjoyed it. Andry Dennan, 57 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:03.680 I love Barry Dennon. He's here such a strange role 58 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:06.560 to have him play just I don't know, it was fun. 59 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:07.719 Follow one. What did you think? 60 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:12.879 I'm glad that Harley Quinn is the last gasp of 61 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:16.920 the gun Mall as a character. If I never see 62 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:21.439 the fucking gangster Mall character ever, this was it. I 63 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:25.399 don't this. This episode broke me. This is supposed to 64 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:28.160 take place in modern America in nineteen eighty seven, and 65 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:28.879 it's still. 66 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:32.639 The oh g blah blah. 67 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.240 Like what are you doing? What are you doing? And 68 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.759 by the way, what are you doing? TJ Castnova. TJ 69 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:39.879 Castnova is effectively the showrunner of telst The Dark Side, 70 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:43.680 has been since the beginning, and he's also on the 71 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.439 other show I do with HP Night, mister Walters. He's 72 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.600 a frequent actor on Taxi. He was for all five 73 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:52.040 seasons of that show. He ran the bar Marios that 74 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:56.040 they all go to. And I can see, Okay, here's 75 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:58.720 the thing. It's season four. They know this is it. 76 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.920 They know this is their final season. So TJ Castronova's like, well, 77 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:03.839 fuck it. I'm an actor. I'm going to give myself 78 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:06.759 an episode here and it's the final season. What are 79 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.000 they gonna do? Throw us off the air? Let's do 80 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:12.040 this one in nineteen eighty seven, Sunday Night at seven. 81 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.720 This is a fucked premise to be watching. I remember 82 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:17.360 seeing it, and I look, I was no slouch in 83 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:20.279 Gore and Whatever by nineteen eighty fourteen years old. By then, 84 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:23.160 I was I was steeped in it. Man, But even 85 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:25.680 this was a bit much like the idea of the 86 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:30.720 not so much once the corpse is being pumpeteered, but 87 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:34.319 when Brad Fisher is putting in the hooks and the 88 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:37.000 sound effects and the why is this taking so long? 89 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:39.920 I don't know. They keep slipping out all of that business. 90 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:42.040 Really grossed me out and continue to gross me out 91 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:44.439 even on the rewatch. Honestly, ex use. 92 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:45.839 The bullet holes. What do you do? 93 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:48.079 Just use the bullets? Okay, Look, there's a lot to 94 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:50.360 recommend this episode. Honestly, it's fun. 95 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:51.920 It's a fun episode. 96 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:54.040 Yeah, I agree with both of you. I do think 97 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:57.000 it's way over long. I think it lies way too 98 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:01.279 much on tired old conventions. This guy, I don't know, 99 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.279 David O'Dell, who wrote and directed it, I don't know who. 100 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:07.399 He was obviously friends with t J Castnova or something, 101 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:11.680 but it's it is not well written, and they're just 102 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.079 little things that could have made it better. Look, not 103 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:16.959 only do we get the gun mole, but we got 104 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.439 there like the rods, what are you gonna do with them? 105 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:24.399 And David O'Dell directed Martians Go Home? So come on, 106 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:27.759 he knows, he knows his tired conventions. 107 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:28.680 That makes sense. 108 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:31.399 His puppets. He were for the Muppets for a long 109 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.079 time and wrote the Dark Crystal Father Malone. 110 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:35.879 The tired conventions are just there. 111 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:38.839 Replete, okay. But here's the thing, all right, so now 112 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:40.879 he now we know that he has this sort of 113 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:46.079 now he has this background in puppeteering, right, Oh, why 114 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:49.759 why isn't it more hands like why make it a 115 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:52.439 marion at all? Why not make it like a Waldough thing, 116 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:54.759 like a one for one thing where it's like directly 117 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:57.920 connected to you. The setup here is you're behind a 118 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.800 curtain and you're attached to wire that are attached to 119 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.480 the corpse, and Barry Dennin is acting like, oh, this 120 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:05.680 is so disgusting, I can't go through with this. But 121 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:08.120 you don't know what's happened. You're not see. If it 122 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:11.279 was like you're in a black outfit and the corpse 123 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:13.399 is attached to you and your cup, that would have 124 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:16.720 been something that would have been really horrifying. But I 125 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:19.439 don't know. It wasn't direct enough. There was just a 126 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:23.079 level of remove that it made it queasy in theory only. 127 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:25.839 Why not just grab this guy while he's alive and 128 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:27.759 make him do all these things? What the fuck is 129 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:29.399 happening exactly? 130 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:31.319 That's what I kept asking. I was like, did you 131 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:34.279 shoot him nineteen times? Accidentally? 132 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.360 Yeah, desecration of a corpse is in in nineteen eighty seven. 133 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:40.720 I mean, I like that fat Polly was super thin, 134 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.240 and I like the axial marionette pumpet that the guy 135 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.920 uses had this like weirdo little orphan any head on 136 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:49.279 this two stringy bt. 137 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:50.360 Look like carrot top. 138 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:55.319 It was so weird. What this guy's apparently renowned, Like 139 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:57.240 he's got his own show down at the line see 140 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.800 him and everything? Is it a horror show? Because I 141 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.319 can't imagine kids doing anything but screaming through his act. 142 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:07.079 It reminded me of that DELIJAHC. Scugs Head from Freaked, 143 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:12.279 the one with the eyeballs that come out. Yeah, Rick 144 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:16.240 de Grin, what the fuck? Yeah? What? What child is 145 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:17.879 gonna want to see this and go, Yeah, this is 146 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:19.720 what I want to sit around for an hour and watch. 147 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:21.399 Run Jesus. 148 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:23.279 You know how we know their mafia because there's a 149 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:25.120 giant curt that says olive oil on it. 150 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:32.120 Eighty seven was not a time for subtlety. 151 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.759 Nevertheless, as much as I'm making fun of it. I 152 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:38.840 really enjoyed it. This is a batshit crazy one and 153 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.159 the fact that it got on the air is baffling 154 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:45.240 to me. And hey, they got a fucking puppet corpse 155 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:47.440 on the air, good for them. 156 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:48.799 On primetime TV. 157 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:50.080 Cheers. 158 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:52.600 I could see this giving me Nightmarre said, I seen 159 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:54.200 it at that tender young age. 160 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:55.159 So there we go. 161 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:55.639 It's a win. 162 00:08:55.799 --> 00:08:59.320 Let's move on before we just add different. The next 163 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.759 episode is called The Grave Robber is the season four 164 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:06.960 episode six, aired originally on November the first, nineteen eighty seven. 165 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:10.360 This is written by Harvey Jacobs and Don Wallner from 166 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:13.120 a story by Harvey Jacobs and directed by Jeff Schiro. 167 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:17.679 This one stars Arnold Stang, Polly Draper, Darren Kelly and 168 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:22.039 Ed Covin's it is a pair of Egyptologists. To me, 169 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:24.120 it's a somebody take it. 170 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:27.279 I don't. It's a blackout sketch that listen blown up 171 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:31.000 to twenty two minutes. Hey no, it's not. Yeah, no, 172 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:34.799 you're right, you're right. It's a Playboy one panel on 173 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:36.519 in a fucking Playboy. 174 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:39.480 Man, maybe a full page, maybe a full page, like 175 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:40.840 a whole gayandul. 176 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:43.480 But pal out Jappie for Mad Magazine. 177 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.039 Right, but it is definitely not a blackout sketch. It's 178 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.879 not an image and a joke. It gets us there. 179 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:51.840 There is a game that gets involved, there's training of 180 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:54.399 clothing and soft you know what. Here, I'll say this 181 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:57.120 about the episode. The makeup is really good. And what 182 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:01.320 we've said this in previous seasons. Shooting this in New York, 183 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:04.080 you had access to these old, fucking actors who are 184 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.679 fucking troopers, right. The fact that Arnold Stang at his 185 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:11.480 age allowed that like basically full body makeup to make 186 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:13.720 him look as and it looked and it looks great. 187 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:17.759 That to me consistently amazes me that these acts like 188 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.320 that had to be the most uncomfortable for that man 189 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.279 at this age, but he fucking did it because he's 190 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:23.279 a fucking. 191 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:27.519 Proa Arnold's Stang man. I mean, he is the best 192 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:30.000 part of Hercules in New York, which isn't saying a 193 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:34.919 whole lot, but he's just oh, just that voice that 194 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:39.120 he has is so great. He just always seemed like 195 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:42.600 such a sad sack, Like it felt like Wally Cox 196 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:44.440 could beat this guy up in a fight, you know, 197 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:47.960 and just some of the stuff that he was in 198 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:51.919 that I mostly remember him from like Scudoo or oh god, 199 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:55.039 I already mentioned Hercules in New York, but just oh gosh, 200 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:57.440 he just would show up in so many things, and 201 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.519 then he knew that he had a cartoon voice, and 202 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:04.120 he would do so many cartoon shows and just little 203 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:07.799 appearances and stuff. And yeah, I'm just so surprised, Chris 204 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:10.200 that we didn't see him on Barney Miller. He seems 205 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:12.039 like he would have been primed. 206 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:16.559 I'm sure, or on Rankin either because again, to be fair, 207 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:19.000 he's also the voice of top Cat, the top hat 208 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:21.159 where or the I guess, not really a top hat. 209 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:25.360 It's more of like a pork pie hat wearing homeless cat, because. 210 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:28.759 Well all the cats are homeless. And he's what's great 211 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:30.919 is he's doing it. He's doing an impression of Phil Silvers, 212 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.159 who also has a super distinctive voice. So it's one 213 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.080 super distinctive voice human doing another. 214 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:38.320 Yeah it's great, and that's no, like you said, Michael, 215 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:39.960 he had a cartoon voice and he knew it. 216 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:45.279 Yeah, so good. And yeah, it's a stupid, stupid episode, 217 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:48.919 but I really liked it. And all right, I'm going 218 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:50.759 to say this and I probably just said this a 219 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:54.360 few weeks ago. There's the Egypt one. We were talking 220 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.799 about mummies recently, and there's the Egypt one with Frisian Slater. 221 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:01.120 Is that in the tail from the Dark Side movie? 222 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.360 Yes? No, A lot two four nine. 223 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.000 Yeah, okay, so this reminded me a little bit of that. 224 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:11.200 But this is obviously just done completely for laughs, laffs, 225 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:15.240 and I I was kind of there for it. It 226 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:17.840 was so silly and so stupid, and especially when they're 227 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:20.879 trying to pull the wool or the bandages over this 228 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:23.279 guy's eyes and oh no, no, this is a better 229 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:26.639 hand and lying tom cheating and they can't even cheat 230 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:29.840 well enough. Like then he suddenly learns all the rules 231 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:33.720 of poker because he astro projects to Vegas and takes 232 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:37.000 all the knowledge of this professional gambler. I'm like, yeah, 233 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:39.440 this is so silly, but I'm so here for it, 234 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.320 and I loved how cartoonish of it everybody was acting. 235 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.480 Maybe I was just in the right mood because I 236 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.639 could see myself hating this, but I really had a 237 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:51.879 fun time, and I think it so lands on the 238 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:53.480 shoulders of Arnold Stang. 239 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.639 I'm surprised, did you not watch this episode in the 240 00:12:56.679 --> 00:12:58.679 last episode at the same time, because they're both just 241 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:01.279 as goofy as one another. I'm kind of surprised you 242 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:03.519 didn't enjoy the last episode as much. I don't know, 243 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:05.879 Like this episode is, like you said, like, this episode 244 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.240 is just as this one is way more humorous. 245 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:10.440 This is like it's going to make a gag fest, 246 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:13.039 not mean spirited. The last one is mean spirit you have. 247 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:15.360 I think you need to be more in the mood 248 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:17.000 for the last one to enjoy it than you would 249 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:18.799 this one. This one is at least boisterous. 250 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:22.320 Yeah, I guess that Darren Kelly's characters, I don't know 251 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:24.720 the fate that he has at the end, I don't know. 252 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.799 It seems pretty it's horrible. It's not great, Like it's 253 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:30.679 pretty bad. It's worse than what happens in the grave 254 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:32.799 or No Strings, because at least in no Strings they're dead. 255 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.279 And this it's like, now you just enjoy being in 256 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:39.600 hell essentially as a guardian of the tomb of Akinatin 257 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:44.919 or yes something, I'm in ho tepe of one of them. 258 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:47.200 That's a terrible fate. That's a fate worse than dead. 259 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:48.480 I'd rather just be dead. 260 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:53.120 Mike since you brought up the Townsman nark Side movie. 261 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:57.399 Now it does feel loud that, like the two characters, 262 00:13:57.399 --> 00:14:00.639 that thing is a three character thing, and and it's 263 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.679 Steve Bushemy. Well it's four I guess, so it's Steve Amy, 264 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.200 Christian Slater, and then Christian Slater's sister and her boyfriend. 265 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:09.559 If you took the sister and the boyfriend character and 266 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.080 pulled them directly out and put them in here, it's 267 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:15.840 almost exact like those are the same kind. That's my 268 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:18.600 mind is a little bit blown actually that like how 269 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:22.799 how close those characters are in both scenarios. That's weird. 270 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:24.879 But did they play strip poker in that one. 271 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:28.200 No, but they're just as vapid and yuppie like and 272 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:32.799 obsessed with sort of Egyptian things, and it's I don't know, 273 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:33.720 it's weird. 274 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:36.480 Okay, I'm glad I wasn't completely off base thinking of 275 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:37.120 that story. 276 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:40.639 No, it's right in there. Yeah, I don't know. This 277 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:44.480 is this one passes the time. I guess this as 278 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:47.919 far as comedy episodes go, this it's not. It didn't. 279 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.759 It was never insulting. It didn't feel like a blackout 280 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:52.799 sketch where it was just like, oh, okay, yeah, you 281 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:57.200 didn't have enough remouth. We got it, Okay, that's fair. 282 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:00.679 I will say though, all of these Egypt or Egypt 283 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:03.480 to Jason episodes all do have the same stink to them. 284 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:06.120 They all got the same funky stank, the stank of 285 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:09.440 a tomb closed for far too long, like they're rarely 286 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:11.639 are we outside of a tomb, or if we are, 287 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.480 we're in a room with a sarcophagus. And that's it, 288 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:18.879 like rooms with sarcophagus or tombs, and that's and like 289 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:20.559 the and I don't know, like half of these or 290 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:22.399 at least half of these, maybe more have been like 291 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.799 comedic as well, which is again, can we not? We 292 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:29.039 can't do because mummies aren't scary. They're not like mummies 293 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.879 aren't scary? Is that the thing? Because mummies are scary. 294 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.399 Well, they would be on tail some dark site. Once 295 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:36.639 that fucking movie came out. That's that's probably my favorite 296 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:38.519 mummy of all time is the one in that movie. 297 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:40.120 Oh I don't know, Arnold does. 298 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:43.279 Yeah, I have to say, is my I know, but 299 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.120 you guys are converts to that movie and I am 300 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:46.120 not converts. 301 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.759 I saw that movie. I thowt movie. I was nine 302 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:50.279 years old in the theaters. 303 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:53.080 You guys are acolytes to that film. I am not. 304 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:56.639 I see no problem with that. 305 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:58.639 I like the Mummy to be scary. 306 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:03.240 I agree with you, But you know what, I'll also. 307 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:05.120 So you don't know, you don't because you like an 308 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:06.120 action movie the best. 309 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:08.159 But I was going to say, to be fair, I 310 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:10.159 will if I can't get a scary Mummy movie, at 311 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:12.120 least can I get a Mummy movie that's fun? 312 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:12.919 No? 313 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:15.399 Fair? 314 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:17.679 No, I mean that's fair. I mean, look to be fair, 315 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:21.240 Like a scary Mummy thing is not something I've seen 316 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.519 a whole lot of. So I would like for someone 317 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:26.759 to do the like definitive scary keep. 318 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:29.600 Waiting and they making it and they just mean making 319 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:30.279 action movies. 320 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:33.759 And I I'm not disagreeing with you, like I like 321 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:35.960 the nineteen ninety nine Mummy, But at the same time, 322 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:39.600 who wouldn't want someone to take the concept of a 323 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:43.919 mummy and like really do something with it, Like I'm. 324 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:44.840 You know, you know, I always go back to the 325 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.320 Karloff one. I think that's genuinely still scary, and the 326 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:50.919 Hammer one I thought was pretty darn good as well. 327 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.320 The Hammer one more than the Karloff one. I think 328 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:55.639 because the Karloff one, if you go back and watch it, 329 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.519 the Mummy's in it for one scene. It's basically Carloff, 330 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.279 just as that as the other care to skulking around 331 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:04.880 the entire time, I'm looking for a bandaged man coming 332 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.359 out of the night and ripping your spine out. Come on. 333 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:09.680 Now, I guess I have a soft spot for the 334 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:12.160 Karlof one because that's where the whole do you have 335 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.680 to go around opening graves to find girlfriends line comes from. 336 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:17.200 And whenever I hear. 337 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:20.039 That it's a great movie, no question, it's a great movie. Yeah, 338 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.799 for scary Mummy. I think that the Christopher Lee one 339 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:24.319 is the actually really scary one. 340 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:27.240 Can we also keep if we do a scary Mummy thing, 341 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:29.799 can it not be like the Mummy is a love 342 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.759 sick creature looking for his mate, Like yeah, you drop 343 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:37.920 that too, because like another another Mummy ism that again, 344 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.200 like I served its purpose, but it is like a 345 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:43.880 little pass a. Now we have plenty of films where 346 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.480 characters don't have romantic interest at all, So I think 347 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:48.720 maybe it's time now to just do a Mummy movie 348 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:51.359 that's scary with not oh he's trying to get his 349 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:55.000 lover back from the grave, or it's that's been like 350 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:57.880 the same fucking tune that they've played. Even in these 351 00:17:57.920 --> 00:17:59.960 even in these like anthology shows, there's like the love 352 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.359 Lorne's Mummy, Like, why is this the thing? 353 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:05.279 Here's the story for the next Mummy movie. Hey, don't 354 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:06.480 open that. That will be fine. 355 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:11.079 There we go again. Nineteen ninety nine Mummy takes a turn. 356 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:14.559 It's scary for a moment, but then it takes a turn. 357 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:17.359 It becomes a full on action movie. That's fine. There 358 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:19.599 is a version of that nineteen ninety nine Mummy movie 359 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.400 that's just a scary movie, but I don't think it 360 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:24.799 is as nearly as successful as the movie that ends 361 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:28.039 up coming out. But I would kill for a scary 362 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:31.920 Mummy anything, or Mummy anything that's not that Tom Cruise thing. 363 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:36.519 Oo oh jesus. Yeah, there was a time, I think 364 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:39.400 it's just last year of the year before, where I 365 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:42.559 got onto a Mummy kick and I watched all the ones, 366 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:47.039 all the universal Mummy movies that aren't just the Karloff ones. Yes, 367 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.680 some interesting things. It goes and the Mummy's Tomb, the 368 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:55.279 Mummies Ghost, the Mummies Curse, and some of those. There 369 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:56.799 was one of them where I was just like, oh, 370 00:18:56.839 --> 00:18:59.880 I've seen these shots before. You are just recycling so 371 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.559 much of this mummy footage and you could tell the 372 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.839 heights would change and stuff. I'm like, Okay, I guess 373 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.000 it really doesn't matter who you put in those wraps, 374 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:10.880 but maybe keep them the same height. 375 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.000 The second Doctor Phime's movie is, while technically not a 376 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.119 mummy movie, is an egypt movie and it's just weird 377 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:22.799 enough to slot in there and satisfy my my mummy yen. 378 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:26.400 But I can't think of the last good scary mummy 379 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:28.920 movie honestly, Like I agree with you. I think it's 380 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:31.160 it's probably Christopher Lee in the sixties. 381 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:33.480 And you know who I would tap, Somebody like Germo 382 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:34.039 del Toro. 383 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:36.720 He has you know, I wouldn't you know what he 384 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:40.359 can That's the short answer. Guy, Let's see Frankenstein before 385 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:41.240 we give him every. 386 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:47.519 That's fair. That's fair. It would need to be somebody 387 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:50.960 who has a reverence for that or or not to 388 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:52.720 be fair. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. 389 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:57.559 Get Josh to do it fantastic right now? Yeah, yeah, 390 00:19:58.039 --> 00:19:59.160 I don't think he's too busy. 391 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:02.240 He's been busy for about damn near a decade now. 392 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:05.200 But like those kids, those two guys are from Australia 393 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:08.000 who did the Talk to Me movie? Oh oh yeah, 394 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:09.960 give them the Mummy movie. You know what I mean? 395 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:13.319 Like when with you, Yeah, I don't even like it 396 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:15.039 doesn't have to be the Mummy, just needs to be 397 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:16.400 a Mummy. 398 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.359 Right Hey here, guys, give us your version of the Mummy. 399 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:22.440 Holy fuck, because that's what we need. The fact that 400 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:26.759 we just kind of keep telling the fucking nineteen twenties 401 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.400