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Speaker 2: Nonfarm pay rolls, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics,
Speaker 2: climbed by seasonally adjusted one hundred and forty three thousand
Speaker 2: for the month. That was down from December, which was
Speaker 2: about three hundred and seven thousandth So the unemployment rate
Speaker 2: right now down a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's down to four percent.
Speaker 1: I fell into this article this morning. It's actually out
Speaker 1: of Vanity Fair, and it's about a squatter. I think
Speaker 1: we all have had stories, or we have family members
Speaker 1: that have had stories of renters, or you know, somebody
Speaker 1: who knows somebody of somebody who won't leave, or somebody
Speaker 1: who created a disaster while they were there, resulting in
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars of damage. And it's even more cruel
Speaker 1: when it's an emotional squatter. And that's what got me
Speaker 1: into this story about this woman who pretended to be
Speaker 1: a local in the Malibu area and kind of snowed
Speaker 1: over a guy who was battling cancer at the time,
Speaker 1: ended up taking this polite, wonderful was seemingly wonderful woman
Speaker 1: in just for a bit, and she ended up taking
Speaker 1: on a campaign of psychological terror against him, landed him
Speaker 1: in a medical facility while she was changing the locks.
Speaker 1: I mean, the signs were there, but it is a
Speaker 1: slow slide into being the manipulated when it comes to
Speaker 1: people who are criminal and endearing at the same time.
Speaker 2: We'll talk more a little bit later about the smell
Speaker 2: the aroma that reminds you of Los Angeles, and there's
Speaker 2: some pretty diametrically imposed views of what smells remind people
Speaker 2: of LA But Patrese Miller is not a name that
Speaker 2: you would recognize, but you might remember the case. She
Speaker 2: lived in Downeyville, lived alone with a couple of cats
Speaker 2: in a little rental house in Downeyville in the middle
Speaker 2: of this small mountain town, kept to herself, known for
Speaker 2: orchids and house plants, got around with the aidable walking sticks.
Speaker 1: This is northern northern California, way northern.
Speaker 4: Yeh. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And last November, a friend who was regularly delivering groceries
Speaker 2: to Patrese noticed that Patrice hadn't checked in lately, so
Speaker 2: she called the Sheriff's office and just said, Hey, I'm
Speaker 2: worried about Patrice. She hasn't been She hasn't been in
Speaker 2: contact with us. Could you do a welfare visit? Deputy
Speaker 2: shows up, notice a garden hose draped across the front steps,
Speaker 2: and the water was on, so it was spraying in
Speaker 2: all directions from a bunch of punctures in the hose.
Speaker 3: It looked like bite marks.
Speaker 1: So he looks in through a small window, sweeps his
Speaker 1: flashlight across the interior and he sees blood streaks and
Speaker 1: paw prints. He draws his gun, opens the door and
Speaker 1: inside a gruesome scene. Patrese Miller's body was on the
Speaker 1: kitchen floor, mangled by claw marks and bite wounds and
Speaker 1: partially eaten. The cabinets had been torn up, garbage food
Speaker 1: littered all over the floor.
Speaker 2: Said they figured out whatever did that, where.
Speaker 3: They got it?
Speaker 1: Some Stephen King s right there.
Speaker 2: A kitchen window appeared to be the point of entry
Speaker 2: had been broken. The security bars had been pried off
Speaker 2: and were still hanging by a single bolt. A survey
Speaker 2: by the deputy led him to figure out that a
Speaker 2: bear had probably found her in bed and dragged her
Speaker 2: across the house. In fact, they found a pile of
Speaker 2: bear scat out in the living room m Now, originally they.
Speaker 1: Thought it's not very nice to poop right in the
Speaker 1: living room.
Speaker 3: You're not supposed to poop.
Speaker 4: What are you eat?
Speaker 2: Sierra County officials believe that well Done Miller died of
Speaker 2: natural causes maybe, and that a bear broke into the
Speaker 2: house and found her and grabbed the body and scavenged
Speaker 2: the place. But they did a full autopsy a couple
Speaker 2: weeks later and didn't put it out publicly until six
Speaker 2: months after the incident. Said that she had suffered crushing
Speaker 2: injuries and that the bear was the one responsible for
Speaker 2: actually causing the death. That it didn't stumble upon her dead,
Speaker 2: it made her dead.
Speaker 1: This is a big milestone for California. This is the
Speaker 1: first documented human fatality caused by a black bear in
Speaker 1: state history. And usually it's the brown bears that are
Speaker 1: the dangerous ones, are the ones that are more volatile
Speaker 1: and aggressive. Now I've noticed this in my area where
Speaker 1: we have an interface with animals that are in the foothills,
Speaker 1: whether it be bears or bobcats, or deer or coyotes
Speaker 1: or skunks or what have you. They've become very familiar
Speaker 1: in recent years with humans. They no longer are scared.
Speaker 1: They are so they are so used to us that
Speaker 1: they are not keeping their distance and we are not
Speaker 1: keeping ours. This woman, by the way, had a nickname
Speaker 1: for this bear. She called him Big Bastard. This bear
Speaker 1: apparently had been stalking the home for months. They're usually
Speaker 1: skittish around humans. Black bears are. They will go after dumpsters.
Speaker 1: They'll break into your cars for food. This is the
Speaker 1: warning you get from Bob the park ranger every time
Speaker 1: you go anywhere to camp or what have you. Hey,
Speaker 1: lock your stuff up, lock your food up. Don't keep
Speaker 1: stuff in your car. Don't keep food in your car.
Speaker 2: The thing is, like you said, she had a nickname
Speaker 2: for this bear because it was a pretty common sight
Speaker 2: around there. She had easy meals where I mean, she
Speaker 2: had cultivated this vegetable garden.
Speaker 3: She had a compost pile.
Speaker 2: She wasn't very diligent when it came to disposing of
Speaker 2: her trash. All these things that they tell you you're
Speaker 2: supposed to do if you live in bear country.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is, if you've lived in Downyville
Speaker 1: for a period of time, this hasn't been a problem.
Speaker 1: Sure the bears are there, but they keep their distance.
Speaker 1: Locals say in fact, they always have kept their distance.
Speaker 1: That this is the first time and their history of
Speaker 1: living there that they can remember that the bears are
Speaker 1: making their rounds. They're all over, they're not afraid, and
Speaker 1: they're getting closer and closer.
Speaker 3: Black bears have.
Speaker 2: The population of black bears has grown significantly since the eighties.
Speaker 2: They said it was about ten to fifteen thousand bears
Speaker 2: in California back in nineteen eighty two when they did
Speaker 2: a survey, but now it's about sixty five thousand. Forty
Speaker 2: five percent of them are believed to live in the
Speaker 2: Sierra Nevada Mountain Range, where you've got not just abundant
Speaker 2: food for the natural life cycle, but all of the
Speaker 2: people that live there now provide the you know, a
Speaker 2: new source of food. I mean, the people aren't the
Speaker 2: food well generally, but they do the trash. Everything that
Speaker 2: the people bring with them can be food items.
Speaker 1: I've talked about having bears in my backyard and someone
Speaker 1: along the line at some point said, well, do you
Speaker 1: have a gun to shoot it? And I said, listen,
Speaker 1: if I shot a bear in my backyard, I would
Speaker 1: be killed. At the town square.
Speaker 3: You'd be ruined.
Speaker 1: I would be ruined. And killed. And in fact, this
Speaker 1: woman reported the bear to Fish in Wildlife. The department
Speaker 1: offered her a permit, which is a last resort option
Speaker 1: the state grants to people to shoot a problem animal
Speaker 1: before it kills you. Essentially, she declined that she didn't
Speaker 1: want the bear hurt, She just wanted it removed.
Speaker 3: Well, now we know what happened, you're supposed to make
Speaker 3: sure that.
Speaker 1: Well, what are you supposed to do? You've got to
Speaker 1: I mean where I live, they will come and they
Speaker 1: will take care of your animal situation and they will
Speaker 1: not kill it, but they will tranquilize it and relocate
Speaker 1: that animal. Right So, I don't know. If it's Downyville,
Speaker 1: the resources are slim there. They don't have anyone they
Speaker 1: can dispatch right away. But saying here's a permit, shoot
Speaker 1: the d could you imagine if I called a bearon
Speaker 1: that was like top tap tap on my window.
Speaker 3: Hey, I've got a bear.
Speaker 1: It's gotten way too close, And the state was like, well,
Speaker 1: here's a permit to shoot it. Shannon, how do you
Speaker 1: think that go over?
Speaker 3: Like I said, I think you'd be ruined. And I
Speaker 3: don't mean by.
Speaker 1: The how did I acquire a gun? Who would give
Speaker 1: me said gun, nobody. How would I learn to operate it?
Speaker 1: Do you think that I would be able to hit
Speaker 1: the bear? The bear would probably take the gun from
Speaker 1: me and shoot me with it. He'd slap it out
Speaker 1: of your hands. He'd be like, what the hell are
Speaker 1: you doing? It would make bastard, that's what he calls me.
Speaker 3: All right, squatter story. When we come back.
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Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: We were talking about this La Times article about the
Speaker 2: sense that remind them of la and somebody wrote, magnificent
Speaker 2: magnolia's in wistful wisteria.
Speaker 1: That was the first thing, huh wysteria.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I will say one of the things that well,
Speaker 2: let's get into some of them.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about it.
Speaker 4: You mentioned this because you know, smell is one of
Speaker 4: the most powerful senses. When I think of California, I
Speaker 4: think of three distinctive smells. A nice when I'm out
Speaker 4: by the desert in the dry area, that right, obviously,
Speaker 4: the ocean if I'm going down p ch and Mexican food,
Speaker 4: love love, the smell of the distinct California.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: That does waft. It is a wafter. I it is
Speaker 1: a wafter. You know, you there's certain points in time too, Right,
Speaker 1: you get out of a game and you smell the
Speaker 1: bacon rapt bacon wrap hot dog.
Speaker 3: That's that has come up many times. Yeah, in fact,
Speaker 3: let's play that one.
Speaker 6: When I think of the smell of La, I think
Speaker 6: of hot.
Speaker 1: Dog yap and yeah, you know, it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to get a smell in LA. That's the other thing.
Speaker 1: There's so much going on in La. Every part and
Speaker 1: parcels accounted for, you know, I mean, like every there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of open space northern California. You can
Speaker 1: pick up smells because at least not every piece of
Speaker 1: land is accounted for. There's some space for things to
Speaker 1: actually bloom and to spread. Here, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: everything's up against each other, so the smells don't really
Speaker 1: last very long.
Speaker 3: That was also interesting that people talked a lot about citrus.
Speaker 6: I'm from Riverside, so the smell that I associate that
Speaker 6: with is the citrus in the string. Yeah, all the
Speaker 6: orange and lemon, grapefruit. Of course they're disappearing by the
Speaker 6: boat loads now, but we're talking downtown in LA. It
Speaker 6: would be piss and I don't know, miss I.
Speaker 1: Don't think you can say piss on the radio. Guys, Well,
Speaker 1: the as we just said, she and I both did.
Speaker 2: As you drive out the one twenty six, for example,
Speaker 2: they still have a bunch of citrus orchards.
Speaker 3: As you're going out towards Vena. It used to all
Speaker 3: be citrus.
Speaker 1: We all learned about it in that Angelina Joelee movie,
Speaker 1: which one the one where her son I think, goes missing,
Speaker 1: and it's like the nineteen twenties and everything's citrus ortured
Speaker 1: all Los Angeles.
Speaker 7: I went to Las Felix to have lunch with a
Speaker 7: friend of mine and I opened the car door and
Speaker 7: literally smell like which is one of the reasons I Vega.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that smells.
Speaker 1: Vegas just smells like bad decisions and STDs the other
Speaker 1: mutually exclusive.
Speaker 3: Another very common pot people said when they're.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely on the freeway, there's.
Speaker 2: A there's got to be a warehouse or something. When
Speaker 2: I drive home, there's one specific place on the freeway,
Speaker 2: especially if it's a warmer day, like anywhere above seventy
Speaker 2: degrees for a good quarter mile, it's just overwhelming the
Speaker 2: smell of pot.
Speaker 1: I have a question about that with pot.
Speaker 3: Didn't pot?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know because Pot's changed so much,
Speaker 1: but driving while high sounds damn near impossible.
Speaker 3: I just it doesn't seem comfortable.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem that's good. Doesn't seem comfortable.
Speaker 3: You gotta be somewhat in control of your sense.
Speaker 1: It's also, isn't the pot just the point of pot
Speaker 1: just to relax, yeah, and not be hyper aware of
Speaker 1: things like.
Speaker 2: Traffic people seems like an oxymor turn signals things.
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Speaker 5: Am six forty.
Speaker 2: My wife was at the story yesterday and took this
Speaker 2: giant picture of just all of this gaudy flowers, over
Speaker 2: priced carnations, the giant three foot tall balloons that spell
Speaker 2: out the word love, and she just I told please, no.
Speaker 1: I told my husband for years, I feel this is
Speaker 1: gonna kind of piss people off here.
Speaker 4: Get it.
Speaker 1: If you enjoy Valentine's Day, you celebrate that. Good for you.
Speaker 1: But I told him long ago, it's a sign of
Speaker 1: a lack of intelligence to buy me something for Valentine's Day, Wow,
Speaker 1: because everything costs so much more, whether it's going out
Speaker 1: to dinner. Everything's a price fixed menu. You're basically a schmuck.
Speaker 1: They've got ya, they fooled you. You're basically a schmuck.
Speaker 1: If you buy into that, if you want to make
Speaker 1: me dinner, that's awesome. I love that. That's very cool.
Speaker 1: You know, you just go to the rafts, pick up
Speaker 1: some pasta, whatever, make me dinner.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, it's lovely, it's thoughtful. But the whole idea
Speaker 1: of making a big deal of spending more than you
Speaker 1: would use usually spend on a normal Tuesday for a
Speaker 1: bouquet of flowers or dinner out, that's just silly. That's
Speaker 1: just silly. You're just throwing money, pissing money into the wind.
Speaker 1: To use the word of the day, piss. Oh, but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You're just you're you're you're
Speaker 1: urinating into the breeze. A card is cool, but just
Speaker 1: don't over It's just I don't know. I don't like
Speaker 1: overspending for the sake of Hallmark holiday like the man
Speaker 1: has gotten you. If you're celebrating the phony holidays, Okay,
Speaker 1: your wife knows that you love her on a Thursday
Speaker 1: in April, why do you have to overspend for ugly carnations.
Speaker 2: We're doing stupid balloon that says love. We're doing a
Speaker 2: nice dinner, but we're doing it on Thursday instead of Friday.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 1: There's that idea as well, do it the day before
Speaker 1: the day after. Okay, I'm not yelling at you. You
Speaker 1: don't have that, no, but I do think it's beautiful
Speaker 1: if it's you, do you. I love that for you.
Speaker 1: But moron, no, I don't think you're more. I just
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's necessary.
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Speaker 1: You make me sound like a horrible no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you did that by yourself.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: We are going to have to go into the next
Speaker 1: segment with this story as well, but we can start
Speaker 1: it now. This was an article, and it's very topical. Right.
Speaker 1: Squatters have been in the news, they've been in documentaries,
Speaker 1: they've been on podcasts. We rarely hear all of the
Speaker 1: details of how this happens because these squatters are very
Speaker 1: manipulative and they use your emotions to do so. There
Speaker 1: was a guy sixty five years old, Alden Marin is
Speaker 1: his name, and lived in the Malibu area, and it
Speaker 1: was September of twenty twenty one. He's taking a walk
Speaker 1: on the beach at Point Doom like he usually does.
Speaker 1: And if you know the area, you know that it's
Speaker 1: one of those areas where you need a key to
Speaker 1: get to the beach where you can take the white
Speaker 1: the walk at Point Doom. So everyone who's there usually
Speaker 1: you know that they're supposed to be there. It's it's
Speaker 1: a status symbol to have a key to the beach,
Speaker 1: and you know, make whatever of that that you will.
Speaker 1: But anyway, when you see somebody on the beach, you
Speaker 1: know they're probably they probably live there, or they're supposed
Speaker 1: to be there. On this night in September twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: Alden sixty five meets this woman. She's eccentric, she's energetic,
Speaker 1: she's this middle aged woman. She's got a British accent,
Speaker 1: shoulder length, frizzy brown hair, blue eyes, and she introduces
Speaker 1: herself as Ellie Mae McNulty, an actor and a screenwriter. Now,
Speaker 1: as for this guy, he had graduated from Stanford, went
Speaker 1: to the Sorbonne. He had a successful wine business, and
Speaker 1: he was battling stage four melanoma for three years. At
Speaker 1: this point when he meets her, he had gone through
Speaker 1: the diagnosis, which is heart wrenching. He had gone through
Speaker 1: the chemotherapy. He welcomed this conversation with this strange, affable woman.
Speaker 1: He sees her a couple more times over the next month.
Speaker 1: They end up going to an art exhibition together because
Speaker 1: he's an artist, she appreciates art. And she says, after
Speaker 1: about a month of them with these casual meetings up
Speaker 1: that she's looking for a place to stay because she's
Speaker 1: waiting for her home to be finished. He invites her
Speaker 1: to stay at his two bedroom condo for a few
Speaker 1: days until her new place is ready to go, which
Speaker 1: was to be imminent.
Speaker 2: It's funny that he had the assumption, I mean, you
Speaker 2: said this a minute ago. Because she was there, she
Speaker 2: must belong there, and he assumed that she had a
Speaker 2: beach key or was a friend with someone who did
Speaker 2: have a beach key, because she was there, and he
Speaker 2: thought it would be kind of cool to have a
Speaker 2: roommate for a couple of days, especially somebody that was
Speaker 2: interesting and quirky.
Speaker 1: Soon enough, the mask came off, she unleashed a campaign,
Speaker 1: they say, of psychological terror, landed him in a medical
Speaker 1: facility at the same time she was changing the locks
Speaker 1: to his place. They said it started about a month
Speaker 1: after she moved in that a couple days quickly became
Speaker 1: a month. With this house that everyone knows somebody that
Speaker 1: has had this, so it's easy to accept. Right, You've
Speaker 1: got a friend whose house is getting rebuilt, or there
Speaker 1: was some sort of damage to the house, or they
Speaker 1: needed to plumb the house or something where you offer
Speaker 1: you can stay with us for a couple days or
Speaker 1: whatever usually ends up being longer. You know how contractors work,
Speaker 1: So it's not out of the realm of possibility that
Speaker 1: her house would take a little bit longer, and in
Speaker 1: fact that's what it did, but just at the alleged house,
Speaker 1: I should say. But about a month after she moved in,
Speaker 1: her demeanor, they say changed dramatically. They meaning this guy's sister.
Speaker 1: She became berating Alden, ridiculing his medical problems, that she
Speaker 1: would take videos of him on her cell phone, threatening
Speaker 1: to use him as leverage to stay longer. She relegated
Speaker 1: to a room in the downstowns Downstown downstairs area of
Speaker 1: his own home. That he couldn't even go to the
Speaker 1: kitchen or other areas without dealing with this woman's verbal abuse,
Speaker 1: and then couldn't get her to leave.
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Speaker 2: Forty authorities in Alaska searching this hour for a commercial
Speaker 2: passenger playing the went missing of the Bearing Sea just
Speaker 2: before it was supposed to land. This cessna is operated
Speaker 2: by a regional carrier called Bearing Air. Nine passengers and
Speaker 2: a pilot on board when its position was lost yesterday afternoon,
Speaker 2: according to the Alaska Department of Public Safety. So you've
Speaker 2: got Coastguard, air Force, and National Guard all involved in
Speaker 2: an air and land search for this airplane.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Alden Marin, guy who lived in Malibu,
Speaker 1: sixty five years old, going through a treatment for stage
Speaker 1: four melanoma, meets a woman on the beach there, which
Speaker 1: is private for just homeowners in the area. Yeah, middle aged,
Speaker 1: eccentric woman British accent. Ellie Mae McNulty is her name.
Speaker 1: They have commonalities. They both shared a passion for yoga meditations.
Speaker 1: Her home is being worked on, he allows her to
Speaker 1: stay in his home for a couple days. He's got
Speaker 1: a two bedroom condo there in Malibu. They say a
Speaker 1: couple of days of novelty turned into a weekek. Then
Speaker 1: two weeks and the excuses of why her new rental
Speaker 1: wasn't yet available started to pile up. And Mindy is
Speaker 1: Alden's sister, and Mindy says that she felt the red
Speaker 1: flags right away. Something was off, and her brother said, no,
Speaker 1: she's okay. She helps out around here, she makes breakfast,
Speaker 1: she makes sure I'm okay. But the sister, as we're
Speaker 1: one to do, starts searching for this woman on the
Speaker 1: internet and seems to believe that this woman fancies herself
Speaker 1: a bit of a filmmaker or something. Her social media
Speaker 1: is peppered with photos of her with Hollywood players David Lynch,
Speaker 1: Al Pacino, Jim Carrey, and she talks about her membership
Speaker 1: and the Screen Actors Guild. Just months before she meets
Speaker 1: the brother Alden. She had instagrammed a screenshot of a
Speaker 1: New York Times review that noted her exceptional acting. But
Speaker 1: this was from a play that had been stage in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, about twenty five years before the meeting.
Speaker 2: And like you said, Alden's sister, Mindy was the one
Speaker 2: who sniffed this out early on, or at least knew
Speaker 2: something was a little amiss about this woman.
Speaker 1: We told you before the break that the mass came
Speaker 1: off in about a month into the stay when her
Speaker 1: behavior abruptly changed. Suddenly she was telling Alden what to
Speaker 1: do in his own home. He did not like conflicts,
Speaker 1: so he started to just play into it. She even
Speaker 1: got access to his credit cards after he left them out.
Speaker 1: She used them for household expenses and food for the house.
Speaker 1: His sister says, he was scared of this woman. At
Speaker 1: one point. She never paid any rent. She was pressured
Speaker 1: to leave at one point, and she said she was
Speaker 1: waiting for an inheritance from her grandmother before she could
Speaker 1: pay for a new apartment. And the sister gets involved
Speaker 1: in this situation and she becomes more combative. McNulty does,
Speaker 1: how dare you talk to me about that, and they
Speaker 1: soon realized that the law is on this crazy woman's side.
Speaker 2: Listen, there's a lot I had to deal with. Our
Speaker 2: fa family had to deal with a squatter as well,
Speaker 2: and this is it.
Speaker 3: It's very tenant friendly. In the state of California.
Speaker 2: Law mandates that somebody who occupies a room in your house,
Speaker 2: even if they're not paying, and even if there's no
Speaker 2: agreed upon contract, they are considered for these types of purposes,
Speaker 2: They're considered a tenant at will. And there's the thing
Speaker 2: is there's no description in state law about what constitutes tenancy,
Speaker 2: even informal tenancy, so there's no real way. Is she
Speaker 2: there for two weeks and she becomes a tenant? Does
Speaker 2: it that take ninety days? There's just no hard and
Speaker 2: fast rule. So while he is in the hospital, Alden
Speaker 2: is in the hospital because again he's dealing with cancer,
Speaker 2: she apparently tried to change the locks, which is another
Speaker 2: right that has afforded tenants in the state of California.
Speaker 1: This is a long story. The vanity faarraticle gets into
Speaker 1: this woman's past. I don't think her past is really relevant. Frankly,
Speaker 1: what's relevant is that this guy had such a breakdown
Speaker 1: over this woman. He had to be hospitalized, and the
Speaker 1: sister began to search legal records involving this woman. She
Speaker 1: found more than ten cases alone, stretching back almost two decades,
Speaker 1: the most recent all in that Point Doom area in Malibu.
Speaker 1: That's how she was able to gain access to that beach. Probably,
Speaker 1: But they say that successful, smart people continue to get
Speaker 1: fleeced in California because they have no idea these laws exist.
Speaker 1: And these very people like McNulty pray. They know the laws,
Speaker 1: they know them backwards and forwards, and they will prey
Speaker 1: on you and they will seek you out, especially well
Speaker 1: to do people who are just nice people.
Speaker 2: So one of the options is, and I know that
Speaker 2: people have done this in the past. It was something
Speaker 2: that we actually looked into, was if you can convince
Speaker 2: I mean, we own the property, if I could convince
Speaker 2: the tenant to leave the house at any point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can change the locks, right.
Speaker 2: But but you got to convince them to get out
Speaker 2: of the house. And the thing is they know you're
Speaker 2: sniffing around to get them out.
Speaker 1: That's dangerous. You don't know if they're armed, what you're
Speaker 1: dealing with.
Speaker 3: The miss Yeah, I feel I don't know.
Speaker 1: If they're on meth or and they've been up for
Speaker 1: four weeks.
Speaker 3: You don't know if they're a Chiefs fan.
Speaker 1: You don't know if they're gonna eat your face.
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Speaker 1: My sister texted me yesterday and she got like the
Speaker 1: she got me to she got my bad mood text
Speaker 1: because she texted me when I was dealing with my
Speaker 1: root canal. And she says to me, yesterday, do I
Speaker 1: understand this correctly? Do you and Gary have a podcast
Speaker 1: now now? I was so incensed and annoyed by this
Speaker 1: that I didn't respond for several hours, and I wrote back, yes, dork,
Speaker 1: we've done a live podcast for nothew Well, I mean
Speaker 1: come on now and she and then she wrote loll okay.
Speaker 1: I thought it was something separate from your radio show,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to write back, we did this for
Speaker 1: four hours. Who wants more of this? Who wants extra?
Speaker 2: Well, if you do want extra, just type in Gary
Speaker 2: and Shannon wherever you find your favorite podcast swamp on.
Speaker 1: No, but you know what I mean, like extra, I agree?
Speaker 1: Do you want extra?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm curious about the people who have agreed to
Speaker 2: be in the same room with us on Sunday afternoon, Like,
Speaker 2: that's a lot, that's that's a lot.
Speaker 1: I think there's coercion at play. I feel like some
Speaker 1: people thought they had to say yes no, like Deborah Mark.
Speaker 1: Do you think she actually wants to go no? Deborah Mark,
Speaker 1: By the way, I ran through season one of Downto
Speaker 1: Nabbey within forty eight hours based on your recommendation. I did.
Speaker 1: I did. It was the only thing that made me happy. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh my god, so thank you. I was like, I
Speaker 1: loved deb Re Mark all day long because it was
Speaker 1: very nice. It's a lovely.
Speaker 3: Show, it really is, and it just gets better and
Speaker 3: it makes.
Speaker 1: Me want tea. They have tea all the time and
Speaker 1: a cucumber sandwich.
Speaker 4: And don't you want to be friends with those people
Speaker 4: that work for the family.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love their love, but not the family. No,
Speaker 1: some of the families. Some of the families, but that's
Speaker 1: the mom.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, you'll need our help on Sunday you've
Speaker 2: been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show. You can
Speaker 2: always hear us live on KFI AM six forty nine
Speaker 2: am to one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime
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