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Speaker 1: Tuck up, back.

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Speaker 2: Back back.

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Speaker 1: O to go to Boomer, the cook Book of.

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Speaker 3: Have a.

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Speaker 2: The can't.

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Speaker 4: Tamer the boo the who the woful poo can't turn

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the firm had.

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Speaker 2: The fat.

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Speaker 3: The the.

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Speaker 4: Can't ha ha ha.

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Speaker 5: Heard who can't?

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Speaker 6: What's up? Sometimes I just want to go.

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Speaker 7: And start waiting for you in Monopoly g.

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Speaker 6: And just do that. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes

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that no money, I don't just feel it, don't feel it,

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don't feel it with me.

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Speaker 8: It's just on random instrumentals, no copyright shout out to

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that instrumental free no copyright songs. What y'all feeling tonight?

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I don't even know what's.

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Speaker 6: Coming y'all Like that freestyle in the first five minutes.

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Y'all know what happens when I feel it. When I

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feel it, the artistic expressions explode from me. Is that

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monkey pox song? No gates? And I don't know if

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this give I didn't more of a be than that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, music is wrong. So it's a night baby, I'm

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gonna sing to you.

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Speaker 9: Music gives a rah. Music is not legal. Your love

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is illegal like harp music. I love you like I

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love that pir rab.

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Speaker 10: Rab Ladies, just like I love all those ladies. Girl,

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that's the same thing I love. I have for you,

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the same as a herald, because our.

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Speaker 2: Love is harang.

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Speaker 6: Like music, and like this song. That's why I dedicated

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to you, girl. Music is horrah. Music is hi hi yah.

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Speaker 10: Got me feeling so hot around right now, like logic,

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I love it is harang like music.

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Speaker 6: Music is Our love is also ha ha rah. But

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some of those meats are how loud?

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Speaker 7: How loud?

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Speaker 6: Oh man, I thought the song was over.

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Speaker 10: I love it's like sausage. It's hello, but also haram.

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At the same time, music is.

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Speaker 6: U ramha How you like that that one? That's a

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harang core. It's getting ridiculous up in here. Maybe your

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love is something like bacon aram, but the love were making.

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Speaker 11: M I'm cooking, Daniel Piking jew bacon. I'm cooking, Daniel Peek,

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got you bacon. I'm cooking Daniel Peek, got you bacon,

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and the sausage you will frying to doubled up in

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a pan Horam, Hello across this American land.

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Speaker 7: H m hm.

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Speaker 6: Sam Simon tripping on my room. A little bit of

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mushrooms in with the sausage and the bacon. That's the

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kind of meal I'm making. Mm hmmm, A little bit

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of muslum lantern gonna.

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna put out that wick muslum candles snuffed out, m.

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Speaker 7: R I P.

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Speaker 6: Sausage bacon.

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Speaker 3: You and me.

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Speaker 6: Inter fairus wheel.

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Speaker 12: We're three Soudi princess and twenty five Saudi princesses. Our

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while we always hearing about Saudi princess I ain't never

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heard nothing about no Saudi princesses.

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Speaker 6: I'm starting to think something.

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Speaker 12: It's a weird little conspiracy we had him Saudi little princesses.

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I'm gonna say, Hi, girls, how y'all doing? I might

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be hallal that you and my haram.

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Speaker 6: That's a harem it. For those that don't know.

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Speaker 12: Saudi little princess, call me prince you my Saudi little

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princess head.

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Speaker 6: That kind of sounded like prince assualist. That's why that's

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why I went down that road. You know what I'm

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saying that was that one was kind of fun. I

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like that one. I was feeling that one. I was

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feeling there, I was feeling it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, That's what I'm getting at. I don't think them

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Soliday princess like them, Saladay princess here?

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Speaker 6: What's up? How y'all doing? It's just some ran I

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have no idea what song's coming. I'm just gonna feel it.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 6: What's up? If y'all want to call in tonight when

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I open it up, you can't if you dare album

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winch We got like five albums. One of the songs

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you mean album number five? When that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: That only.

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Speaker 13: That's on y'all's mind tonight, y'all want to see with me?

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Shout out to the person I didn't know the christ

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on them.

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Speaker 12: We gonna open it up. We gonna master chef and

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cook these foods. Got our color, every degree and philosophy.

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Speaker 6: If don need work, got ready to cook master chef.

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I'm cooking up organic meals with organic like us. You

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must have lost this channel to by the way, because

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I noticed that he has a new channel with not

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many followers. Where's maybe he made multiple channels?

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Speaker 2: Let's see, Oh you got a skin Caroline.

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Speaker 6: Or get it like a skin Caroline Jerkins that bath

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and beyond skin Carol, where's they is?

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Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 6: Really?

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Speaker 14: Is there?

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Speaker 15: Really?

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Speaker 6: Is there really a thing going on? Is there really

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a crucible.

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Speaker 2: Coastable?

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Speaker 6: Alright? What what do you all mean to sing about?

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Y'all tell me what you sing about. We're gonna open

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up door.

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Speaker 2: Worrkna catch your.

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Speaker 6: Pennies in a twisted tis on. We gonna open up

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this thing and cook something ooos. We serving up.

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Speaker 12: Human and he is can up outside eye put up

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bed in sausage juice like.

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Speaker 6: The hag on pickle juice sauce. Its fingers, lady fingers,

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little betty, leady fingers. What do you want me to

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think about thinking about? We got them fot hot?

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Speaker 2: He dies?

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Speaker 6: It's windy up in here?

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Speaker 12: Who turned on a stinky fan? That's just in had this?

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It ain't no such thing as a stinky fan.

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Speaker 6: That's just then fun How I did his.

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Speaker 11: Yo?

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Speaker 6: There's a fan that not emacally stinks. It's calling ass.

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And if the hoose I win, and my general roldery

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she our lives also got a sin, a left shen

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and a right shen.

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Speaker 12: And two right hands. It's not more perfect than not

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having two right hands and seven.

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Speaker 6: Toes, because seven toes we all know it's more perfect

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then for told whose everybody know who.

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Speaker 12: I'm singing about that far I dido doo. I got

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that bubba gut because I ate that high rom sauce

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heads with my forty four rise in my heart.

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Speaker 6: Ram that's also how low but also how ram. There

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we go. Damn, y'all are telling that Billy Corson Billy.

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Course we're missing about Billy Corson.

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Speaker 1: D shit.

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Speaker 16: We got a space speer head that flow around the

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universe and trying to give them white yakoops come afterwards

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and they put us in chains salacted change. But then

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we opened up a space porter. The body hold up

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the universe. Gnostic first traverse through universe through a booty

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with homewarps on. It's just like Marto brothers put us

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through universe. Billy Corson, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know where that was from. Person got that

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nasty with.

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Speaker 16: Flying around the universe, you know, tricked out the pyramid pyramids,

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got ribs, which don't even make sense because.

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Speaker 7: It's flying around the universe.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't r want doesn't have ribs. I need something

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to sing about them. I don't. I don't feel much

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for Billy Corson.

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Speaker 10: So tell me something to sing about the songs Yemen.

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Speaker 6: I don't see, I don't I got no song.

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Speaker 12: That space piramid tricked out, it's got dripped all over it,

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it's got ramp and it's got so with us down

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in Pharaoh's chain, I can thuf all around in your universe.

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Speaker 6: He was God's in. She had aens and piers.

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Speaker 12: And she has.

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Speaker 6: I like that one. Billy Carson fly flying around the

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universe and that tricked out pyramid. Doesn't Billy Carson believe

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that he's not a I mean, we might as well

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just call him you cool? Yeah, could fly flying around

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the universe and that tricked out pyramid trying to show

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off against the pope. I like that. I like that,

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yeah cool, not cool.

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Speaker 17: Billy Carson right shotgun, he got him checked out and pram.

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Speaker 18: Flying all around his garlac dick spread yaku ben behdy

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car Son.

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Speaker 6: It's a car son, except that the space car I

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called the pyramid. We was building up at landing us

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since she.

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Speaker 17: Y'all thought we was building up ship at left up,

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but it was Atlantis.

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Speaker 6: Don't this this I'm talking about? Alenis m y'all cool?

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Speaker 12: That pleasant at Lynis and it was full of OBUs

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booty queens.

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Speaker 6: We foll wrote the good worse because we was kings.

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But of course run a shot up. We your cool

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in a trick to our pail. Run in my head.

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Speaker 12: I got a space perier mad with rims. Yeah, don't

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even make sense because it don't ride. It just flies

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around in lands vertically, which is bad ass. And the

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white people trying to keep a style.

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Speaker 18: But they can't keep for style. Flying around in space

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with y'all cool feeling to my left and.

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Speaker 19: Right, some boob.

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Speaker 6: We got a pair of men full of through your

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phone that's hose space holes.

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Speaker 12: Then it cassing flying around with y'all cools. You try

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to pull me just like this, like it was a

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big ship rotates the mainsail. I don't even know what

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that means, but it sounds like I'm steering some big

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We was caings and stuff.

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Speaker 7: He yeah, ben it.

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Speaker 6: Casting fly around and tricked up hearing me well, y'all coop,

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yeah like that. That was pretty fun for just off

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the cuff. I can't just do these debates crazy, it's

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what's going on. We gotta have fun. We can't just

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have debates without having fun. So we was we was

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canes and she incited me.

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Speaker 20: It's my moderate severere all sort of Collie song.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't always this.

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Speaker 6: Path in there.

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Speaker 12: I employ y'all cool, yeah cool, I said, yeah cool, yeah,

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ha ha cool.

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Speaker 6: Doing how wrong things with my hood rat friends? Ten

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out of ten? Thank you. We might have to clip that.

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I think it would clip that really car or some song.

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Speaker 21: I like that one right there.

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Speaker 6: That's that your cool. That's the Ya cool mix. Cran's

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cool making its way around the world. You have anyway? Wait,

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let me just sing about right now. Take you by

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the super chats. I'm crad Mill Gates, Monkey by something

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milk Gates, Vana Color Humber. That's my two ways hold

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up to your cool coffins, y'all. Like my seventy two

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Virgins Saudi Princess mix. We always sing about Kamala. I

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can sing about Kamala, sing about the Celtic languages, an

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R and B song about Celtic languages, an R and

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B A song about the Nordic god. Oh then.

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Speaker 22: What you don't hen oh damn oh damn oh damn

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oh damn oh dear.

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Speaker 7: What you do?

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Speaker 6: Who were good? How that don't work? Go ah fun?

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Don't want me to shut up and open it up. Now,

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shut up, shut up, open it up. How am I

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supposed to do that when I'm feeling it? M hm.

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Speaker 2: Hm is it music?

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Speaker 6: Two hours? It sound good?

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Speaker 7: Bring?

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Speaker 6: Let me think about Oh Damn, oh Dad, dang lordy

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God's blue Eyes than Kyrie?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Does that work? Key on the low

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key oh me?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I feel like it doesn't work with

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rap as good if it does when I'm when I'm

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saying I sing much better than I round.

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Speaker 23: We all know that, right right, right, right right, we

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all know, we all know I sang better than I rap.

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Speaker 6: That's a smooth sister beat right here? I really good?

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Would I feel a smooth system? Be an R and

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B song about David Bradshaw just mixing up totally.

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Speaker 24: Insane things that have no connection whatsoever. Sing about the

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Nordy guys versus the back guy.

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Speaker 6: Old you want a piece of ya? Could ohd and

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want to fight ya? Cool A?

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Speaker 23: No, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I can't feel it this song to s here we go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel it?

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Speaker 6: Just love.

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 6: You want me to sing about Sam Shimo? Y'all want

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me to sing about who else? Who else is out here?

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Sneak sneak o versus.

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Speaker 2: Odie Towers.

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Speaker 6: Sing about why Mom, why.

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Speaker 7: Why?

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Speaker 6: Mom's a good one. Oh, here we go, h oh

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my mom's park game.

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Speaker 3: My.

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Speaker 6: I like how this one starts.

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Speaker 2: I can feel this one.

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Speaker 6: It's a wind mom, beg right here. Fazia short nay

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Phronsie shark nay Phronsie short Nay. I'm straight, I'm gay,

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Fasia shard nay box wine, who's gay? I don't know everything?

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Speaker 20: You like that?

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Speaker 6: A lot of these are too slow, and you type

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in three dark this is oh, that's every now, and

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then you get some this is gold, dude. But it's

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like one in a hundred of these, you know what

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I mean?

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Speaker 7: First sour, we might have to move on.

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Speaker 6: And then there's because I don't I want to run

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all y'all off. I can't find a good song. You do,

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I'm singing? You do your moo U mute them buttons

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on your circle. I bet these are split out of

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an AI machine. What do you want to bet there's

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an AI machine that just spits these out all the same.

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Speaker 2: Buly find a mom?

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Speaker 6: Why you wind mom?

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Speaker 7: You're a wine mom.

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Speaker 19: He's a Francia and Shardon Knay and another national strawberry flavor.

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Speaker 24: Things I can't think of?

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Speaker 6: Wine mom? You know a wine mom?

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Speaker 7: Why wind and mom?

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Speaker 6: You know wine?

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Speaker 7: Mamm I'm gonna blake the refast.

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Speaker 19: You're gonna make your breakfast and no more than could

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shoot I say the wine mom finding mom?

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Speaker 6: Why you wind it?

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Speaker 2: Mom? You wine mom?

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Speaker 19: You not boxes and boxes in storage, a whole storage

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ship on a box of wine.

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Speaker 6: Because you a wine Why you wind the moll?

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Speaker 19: Shardon Knay and Pania and another pink flavor it's called

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peak player.

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Speaker 7: Let me have a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Of that pink flabor girl, wine mom?

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Speaker 25: Do mom?

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Speaker 19: White whining Mom, you're a single mom?

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Speaker 6: Why you got it?

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Speaker 19: You good line to synic and he was a king

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cool and cigarettes and a little biggy puppet dog that's actually.

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Speaker 6: Thought. I was starting to feel it.

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Speaker 19: You got a monny dog that's a deathly dog. You

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want you a dog, mom, because you want a single mom?

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And then caper day and wine mom, all wrapped up

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all in one. You a wine mom splits a poetry

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on a Twitter space port wine you are poorly wine mom.

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Penna Grigio, it's pronounced Peter Grego.

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Speaker 6: You correct me and show me how smart you are

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because you are sophisticated, single white mom. I don't know

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that one could have been. That one could have been,

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might have thought about you a wine mom, whitey whining mom.

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You got boxed wine. I'm a wiser. My whole story

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ship full of box wine.

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Speaker 19: You got Frankie sharp knite people, Richio coming out wi wine.

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Speaker 7: You were dog mom and a simple mom.

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Speaker 2: You got our mind a.

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Speaker 6: Sister, you got it. I keep going blind. What's that

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man dogging? But everybody, all these remands say, definitely dog.

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We got a dog in these pains. It's a pit

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my mom. You can make a wine boss.

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Speaker 16: You're mama to a boy and a pit bull. You

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a wine mom, but you a wine mother. I'm a

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tyrannical raider. I remind you of your ex to put

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it in your place.

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Speaker 26: She won't be a mom to hot the civic falter king,

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cool sugar ress taptoo of a weird design on your

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tas and your.

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Speaker 7: Arms and your neck and a little spider on your knack.

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Speaker 6: You are wine mama and a single mom and a

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dog mom.

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Speaker 27: To a boom to eat babies. Better man that some

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babies you're gonna eat the babies in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 6: You're a single.

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Speaker 19: Mama and you are wine mom, white wine and mama,

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but you are wine mom, box wine, left, right, left, right, box.

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Speaker 16: Wine, Pino grigio and that weird paint flavor to tastes

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of sugar.

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Speaker 6: I was it's fun. But what why mom?

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Speaker 2: Rap?

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's a single one. What do you mean a

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rap about? Now? Got no gotta ultimate that you traded

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for Placific and.

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Speaker 25: A grand An and a Chrysler and a Pontiac in

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a rope because you totaled it while your wine mom, I.

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Speaker 6: Got fifteen straining waters on fifteen different brothers. Think about Taka.

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I met a girl, all right, I met a girl

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named Tekiya. She would lye left and right. That do

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be sounded like a black girl name, though, don't I Tekiya.

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I'm not feelings little gun in Tequia. But she was

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lying all the time.

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Speaker 28: Tequilla, Taquilla, Tequilla. I went to high school with a

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black girl named Shaquillah. What your name was, Takilla?

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Speaker 6: We met at the Lodga matt when you were doing

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the lobby. What do you say about that? That game was?

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Speaker 12: What I spat at the London Matt. I told you

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my name was Matt. You said we could go out,

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we canna have fun.

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Speaker 6: I bought you some fun. Your hons that was nasty

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and stink.

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Speaker 12: Your girl was named Santishwa Contiqua, and they also came

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on the data as a chaperone.

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Speaker 6: I said, no, no, no, Teqia, what are you doing.

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Speaker 17: Listen to me, Tekia, You're a liar. It been tike y'ah.

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Tequilla was a liar deceive up.

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Speaker 6: We was at the Launchrometh.

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Speaker 12: You were talking about doing all of that George prudence

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and that thick and all of that legalistic shit.

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Speaker 6: I said, are you keeping roots? And you said no.

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I worked for Ally. I said, the allies are the axis.

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You said no Ally. I said what you said?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I realized you was a mus from Sudare Princess,

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the last one.

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Speaker 17: I fell in love with you, Takiyah, But then I

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learned you don't tell the truth.

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Speaker 6: Good Turkey.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like.

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Speaker 6: The key us love of me, love me the londer

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that to.

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Speaker 2: When softness and freshness matter, you like that one your laundry.

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Speaker 6: You didn't think I was gonna make a song about

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a girl named Tekiya? Did you boy sounded like a

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sister's name. Though, listen, we don't have to only do

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we can We can also do songs about other things.

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Sing about boomers. I did a boom song in the past.

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Speaker 4: I'm not like two songs.

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Speaker 6: Bloomers Songscooters. It's gotta be the right song. Boomer scooter

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can make Boomer scooters. Most of these songs song that's

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that's a problem. It's not me, it's these songs. Did

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y'all ever hear my Jimmy Buffett song? That was a song.

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Speaker 29: Booma's got them mont keep bucks. Booma's got them keep bucks.

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Booma's got them keep bucks singing it's going to the

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reggae reggae Reggae's song about the I like except when

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you pull up the friend.

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Speaker 6: The free reggae songs they're even worse. They're they're worse

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than the the other. The free reggae are the worst.

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Speaker 30: Booma's got the moon keep bucks, the gates in the Humma.

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It's the monkey pock Sommer. Boomer's got the monkey bucks

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monkey bucks. The Boomers got the monkey bucks. The woman's

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got the monkey bucks. Got to get the new Stabby

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were your grandma Abbey. It's a not bad Boomer's got

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the monkey bucks to get the new Stabby.

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Speaker 6: For your drama. Abby. Boomers got the monkey bucks. It

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gets in the armor, monkey back somber.

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Speaker 2: Look at that Boomer clad.

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Speaker 7: It's the ba.

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Speaker 29: Booma clad Boomba clad. It's the Booma blood clot Boomer clad,

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it's the Baba blood plot Bill gets in the armor.

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Now's the monkey.

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Speaker 6: Pox on mon. Boom Must got the monkey bus bo

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Must got the monkey box. That one was not bad.

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That could have gone swer.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know what that is but a.

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Speaker 6: Monkey pomp. What else is there to do? There's nothing

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else to do? Where y'all at Boomer boomer clot, you

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thought it was a boom buck lot boot. Oh, what

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do you'll want to talk about? What do y'all want

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to do? What do y'all feel?

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Speaker 2: It's getting worse.

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Speaker 6: They're getting worse and worse already. If something depends right now,

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they're getting worse and worse and worse. What the heck?

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Let's try the dark? No Oh, I you know how

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I feel. I got the greatest hit ever was I

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did a Playboy CARDI type beat and that pulled up

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some of the best stuff. That, ain't it?

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Speaker 7: No, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm about to give up. Y'all ready to open it up.

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I'm about sunged out. It's a monkey Pocks summer Bill

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Gates in a hummer. It's time to open it up. Anyway.

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It's nine thirty, so I sat the debate time for

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nine thirty. All right, it's time to debate. I don't

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even know why I put I thought maybe we watched tiktoks,

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just depending on how I felt, I guess not. But

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it's good timing. Jade Iris six minutes past the time

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of his start, and he's singing.

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Speaker 2: Blue.

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Speaker 28: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Up.

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Speaker 6: Where's the where's the sounds at? It's the monkey Pok

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Summer Bill Gates in a hummer. It's the Monkey Park

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Summer Bill Gates in a hummer. Y'all thought it was

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Timberlake for a second. With the way I was busting

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out them beat boxing beats. You were like, it's this

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white boy Timberlake?

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Speaker 2: What going on?

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Speaker 6: Dirty? Dirty, dirty pop? You can't stop? What's to deal

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with this?

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Speaker 7: Pop?

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Speaker 14: Lot?

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Speaker 6: And win's it? Gun fade out? All right? We got

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people filling out the room. We're gonna open it up.

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We're gonna have to change our tone and enough laughing, enough,

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enough goofiness, It's time to open it up. I guess

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it's kind of open. You can talk about whatever you want.

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If you want to talk about Oasis, you can. If

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you want to talk about comedians, we can. Who's funny?

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Who's not? A lot of people disagree with my list

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of comedians. They said, where was Tim Dillon on your list?

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Where was Shane McGillis, Where was whoever? I know it's

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Shane Gillis. I'm just being silly. Well, the list of

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the comedians that I listed are the ones that I've

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all talked to or interviewed. That's why I listened them,

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because I know they're legit. There are plenty of other

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people out there that are funny. There's also plenty of

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comedians that I've never heard of. So people were like,

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what didn't you list so and so? Because I ain't

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never heard of so and so. I can't just listen

471
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:03,639
to everybody else's material. I'm a content creator. I don't

472
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:07,039
know if you've heard of that, but there's not that

473
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:09,280
many of us out there. It's an elite club called

474
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:15,599
content creators on the Internet and as a content creator,

475
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,599
a provider of consumable information for you. I don't have

476
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:23,079
time to listen to everyone else who is a so

477
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:29,880
called content creator. Anyway, we got people piling in. The

478
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,559
topics are Islam because all this is in Protestantism. But

479
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:38,880
for a one time, unique, limited offer, I will expand

480
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,639
it to other topics because it's late at night and

481
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,280
we're just having fun. So you can bring up other

482
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,320
topics that you want to bring up within the terms

483
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,360
of service. The toss as they say, you can bring

484
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,440
those things up if you want to.

485
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 10: But but.

486
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 6: There is no butt. Luca, my name is Luca. Not

487
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,000
a Susann Vegas song. We're straight up gen x in here.

488
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,679
My name is Luca.

489
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 7: I'm a big Lucas Donts fan.

490
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 6: Who that's what it is.

491
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:17,039
Speaker 7: A Luca doncis. He's a he's a basketball player.

492
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 31: He plays in the NBA.

493
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 6: You're a sportshole man. You like sports?

494
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 15: Hole?

495
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 7: Hey, I like sports.

496
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: I like sports.

497
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:28,159
Speaker 20: So my main question is so i've I'm a.

498
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 32: Cradle Catholic, you know, grew up Catholic, fell away from

499
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,760
it a few years ago, got into Protestantism because my

500
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,400
dad's a Catholic, my mom's a Protestant, and now I'm

501
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,039
looking to Eastern Orthodox.

502
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:41,639
Speaker 7: So'm I just had a question.

503
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 31: So, and you brought this up before, to know you.

504
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,639
Speaker 7: Were once a Catholic.

505
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 32: How do you how do you se on to a

506
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:49,400
Catholic college too? How do you get away from like

507
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,239
the Catholic like moral black and white sort of thing

508
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,000
where it's just like pure legalism, Like, how do you

509
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:58,639
get into the mindset of a humanism?

510
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 6: Wellcumunism is not what you're talking about. Cumunism is the

511
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,559
idea that all the religions need to dialogue together to

512
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:11,760
find the true religion.

513
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 7: I'm sorry I use the wrong word there.

514
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,199
Speaker 3: I'm gonna e colonomia or is it a.

515
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 7: It's some Uh, it's uh, well, I.

516
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 6: Mean I think I think you're talking about legalism, right, Yeah,

517
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,360
I'm talking about like, yeah, like legalism.

518
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:27,679
Speaker 7: Yeah.

519
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 6: Well, I think over time it takes, you know, the

520
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,880
Orthodoxy do it takes time to heal from the baggage

521
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,280
that we bring into it. I know it took me

522
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,199
a long time to take me many years to get

523
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,239
over the hardcore Tomism and stuff that I was really

524
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,000
obsessed with. So that just is going to come in time.

525
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:50,159
You're going to need the ability to work through a

526
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,679
lot of issues with your spiritual father, that kind of stuff.

527
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,760
It's probably gonna take several years, especially if you're raised

528
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,000
Roman Catholic and you switch to Orthodoxy. I think a

529
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:02,440
lot of Roman Catholics think from the outside that Orthodoxy

530
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:05,559
is not that different because of you know, several things

531
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:08,239
in common, but when it comes to the actual practice

532
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,599
and all that, it's very different. So really that just

533
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:12,639
comes with time, I think.

534
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,559
Speaker 32: And then one more question, why doesn't Orthodoxy recognize them

535
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,559
Francis of a CC as a saint, because I know

536
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,719
that the Philioquy wasn't really involved in in Roman Catholicism

537
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,559
until like a round of the late twelve hundreds, but

538
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:33,480
he was a venerated saying before the Phillioquy was a

539
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:35,719
sort of enforced doctrine.

540
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,199
Speaker 6: Right well, saanhood in the Orthodox view is not just

541
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:42,119
limited to whether you believed in the Philioquay or not,

542
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,159
or some specific dogmatic issue, I mean confessing the correct

543
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:49,039
doctrines as part of it. There's also many things in

544
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:53,159
the life of France of a CEC that contradict what

545
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,920
Orthodoxy sees is the normative experience for everybody who's a saint.

546
00:44:57,039 --> 00:44:59,599
So one thing that's different, which is a key issue

547
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:03,559
here between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, is Roman Cuthalsism kind of

548
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:07,239
has this all over the place wild variance in terms

549
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,440
of what the experience of the saints is like. So

550
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:12,639
there's the you know, dark knight of the soul, and

551
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,960
there's the mystical spiritual orgasm, or there's there's all these

552
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:19,079
different wild things, and that's not what happens in Orthodoxy

553
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:23,000
or orthodox There's the same pattern for everybody, whether it's Moses,

554
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:26,599
whether it's Paul, whether it's Basil, or whether it's Simion

555
00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:31,159
the New Theologian. Everybody has the same process of purification, elimination, deification.

556
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,519
So thiosis is something that you would have to confess,

557
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,079
and you wouldn't be able to confess the types of

558
00:45:38,159 --> 00:45:43,440
things like stigmata or Francis's vision of seeing angels crucified.

559
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:45,760
I mean, none of that that's all pre lesson the

560
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:52,239
Orthodox fw. None of that's consistent with Orthodox process of

561
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:54,239
you know, noetic healing.

562
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,679
Speaker 32: Okay, Okay, yeah, because I know that hem he claimed

563
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,000
to perceive like the of the Crucifixion and everything.

564
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:02,519
Speaker 3: I know.

565
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:05,079
Speaker 32: There's mysticism and orthodox or I was just wondering that.

566
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 6: Well, but it's different. So again there's a unified experience.

567
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:14,280
There's not. There's no I'm I'm literally supposed to reu

568
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:19,079
redo you know, the wounds of Christ or whatever. There's

569
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:24,360
no visions of you know, Sarahphim being crucified that we

570
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,800
would ever accept. I mean, it's just theologically incorrect. There's

571
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,639
no angels aren't crucified, so that it's just right there.

572
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:36,599
It tells you it doesn't make any sense. Yakub, I

573
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:39,119
was just singing about Yakub. We got Yakub calling in,

574
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:47,519
what's up? My brother? My name is Luca, Luca Brozzi,

575
00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:53,880
Luca Brozi and not who killed Don Corleone or he was.

576
00:46:54,079 --> 00:47:00,639
He's the trader, right, Luca Brozzi? Yahku, what's up on mute?

577
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:10,559
It's so easy to debate? Yeah, Kub, what's up on mute?

578
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:21,119
You got turning your permissions on? Let's see, we got

579
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,000
Carlos wind Dollares. Christis soon hear me. I can now

580
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:25,760
what's upright?

581
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 7: Okay?

582
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:27,679
Speaker 6: Jay?

583
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 33: So I was just learning about the funk apocalypse, right,

584
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,000
and I heard you say that everybody in Hell has

585
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:34,039
Funko Pop's head.

586
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 31: So I was just wondering where you can find that

587
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,239
in the Church Fathers.

588
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 6: It's in. It's in UH. The first chapter of UH

589
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:48,920
Hasbro and Hasbro citing Saint Mattel and they point out

590
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:53,480
that when you go into hades, you are plastic, plasticified,

591
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,440
and so you become plastic so that you can be

592
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,239
cooked over and over like sam Hi cook the Funko

593
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:15,599
Pops in a fry cooker. It's so easy to debait,

594
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:22,239
so easy to de bait a deep fried my five

595
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,599
thousand dollars Funco collection. All right, I'm finally doing my

596
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,920
unboxing over one thousand long a Funko Pop Marvel gear.

597
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 34: Whoa, whoa seven gallons of high quality corn oil.

598
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 6: Yes, working me out for a long time.

599
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 20: I've been an Indian fisher for a long time.

600
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 6: Corn oil. This is bazed. This is what I'm talking about.

601
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 20: And get Freddy and their Tusha. They're together.

602
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:54,559
Speaker 6: Now. This is funny because if you are familiar with

603
00:48:55,639 --> 00:49:00,159
my lore, the lore of Jasonalysis, then you know that

604
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,760
at our live events, at least for the first year

605
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:08,119
of live events. Oh look, they turned into the infinity stones.

606
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:16,639
They're they in cell stones. Chris, go get the other

607
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:17,480
secret ingredients.

608
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,599
Speaker 20: You're not a real Marble fans. You're not a fan

609
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,079
of real human.

610
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,119
Speaker 6: When you uh fry the Funko pops, they turn into

611
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,920
the in cell stones. You put them into your name,

612
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:33,679
You put them into your Nintendo power Glove for those

613
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:45,000
that are wondering. Uh anyways, anyways, time to oil up

614
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:51,119
boys and girls. Sam Oak, I like that man's name.

615
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:54,960
It's just it's just a basic tree name. There's Bob Birch,

616
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,280
There's Sam Oak.

617
00:49:57,159 --> 00:50:01,519
Speaker 7: There's a can I make a crane core request for

618
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:02,119
the future.

619
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Speaker 35: I do want to debate you on something, but my

620
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,960
favorite character of yours is Delante from Delante's Inferno. Come Get,

621
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,079
Come Get the best barbecue out of Memphis.

622
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,079
Speaker 6: Okay, so we Delonte would probably be serving up some

623
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,800
hellacious ribs from the underworld. So that's a that's a

624
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:25,480
pretty good idea.

625
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 7: That's right. We've got the go chains and the beats.

626
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 35: Yeah, yeah, well, okay, one question I had, are you

627
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:47,920
familiar with Bruce Gore? He's a Covenant theology Presbyterian. You

628
00:50:48,039 --> 00:50:51,119
did a bunch of lectures. Okay, he's uh.

629
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,599
Speaker 7: I think he's Yeah, he's.

630
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,679
Speaker 3: A Presbyterian anyway, he claims, and I watched.

631
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 35: His whole series on the Bible and the history of

632
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,400
the Bible, and he claims that when the Temple was

633
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:08,679
destroyed in AD seventy, that the genealogies of David were lost.

634
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 7: Like, I guess all the genealogies were lost? Is that true?

635
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 6: As far as I know? That's correct. I mean, this

636
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:21,519
is why modern day Jews have discussed like some sort

637
00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:24,239
of like DNA test to try to figure out who

638
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,719
the descendants of the Kohanim are and all this kind

639
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,199
of stuff. I don't know how they would do that,

640
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:33,000
but I mean the reasoning is that because purportedly the

641
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:35,320
genealogies have been lost as far as I know.

642
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 7: And is that, like, where what's the reference for that?

643
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,639
Who is the historian that you know?

644
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 6: Because I don't know where to I don't, you know,

645
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,119
I've never actually went and checked to that. I don't know, Okay,

646
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,000
it's just something I've heard for a long time.

647
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 35: I went searching on the web for it, and a

648
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:59,400
Roman historian named Cassius Dio came up, and I just

649
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,880
didn't feel like buying his book and looking through it,

650
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,440
But it's an interesting thought.

651
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 7: Now when it comes to doing.

652
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,639
Speaker 6: Well, he did a book signing at Barnes and Noble

653
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:13,079
last year, so he's a really cool dude. Yeah.

654
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 35: Well, when it comes to doing all this genetic testing,

655
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:23,199
you're a smart guy, don't you think that the early,

656
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:28,119
the people that first submit their samples, that whenever you

657
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,079
add the rest of the aggregate data, you're trusting the early,

658
00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:40,920
the early genetic testing, the people that submit their genetic data,

659
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,480
you're trusting them to have a correct history of who

660
00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:45,800
they are, where they come from.

661
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:46,119
Speaker 36: Right.

662
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,159
Speaker 6: It seems like, yeah, probably that there's some level of

663
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,559
like assuming something. I don't know much about all that,

664
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:57,519
but I would I would. I would guess so because.

665
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 35: Like if if a bunch of Inuit claimed they were

666
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,920
Argentina and submitted their DNA, that would skew all the future.

667
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 6: Data would not If that's how it works, I would

668
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,639
think so. But again, I've never submitted my DNA. I've

669
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:14,039
always thought those things were probably scammy or some kind

670
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:16,960
of like government like trick, corporate trick to get you

671
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:19,800
to send in your you know, DNA to something. So yeah,

672
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:21,960
so I don't know actually how it works. So I've

673
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,119
never done it, but I would imagine there's probably fraud

674
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:25,679
going on.

675
00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

676
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,599
Speaker 35: It's just you know, whoever the early sample is, you're

677
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:36,119
you're you're benchmarking all your future submissions to that early

678
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:41,079
sample and the the his you know, correct history history

679
00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:41,800
that they're giving.

680
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 6: So it's just yeah, well, I mean I don't think that.

681
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:47,840
I don't I don't know how they would ever figure

682
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,800
out who the kohimur.

683
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,559
Speaker 35: Yeah, yeah, but I would like to know where that

684
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,440
reference comes from, because.

685
00:53:57,679 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 7: You know, that would be a really saying. You know,

686
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,880
if you want to do apologetics.

687
00:54:03,079 --> 00:54:07,119
Speaker 35: The Jews or anybody else, or even the yak.

688
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 7: Kubs out there and yak Kub in.

689
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,519
Speaker 6: The purid well, thank you. Yeah, we'll have to ask,

690
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,159
you know, the Galactic High Council whether or not it's

691
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:22,280
appropriate to ask that of Yakub. But I will speak

692
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,840
to my my posse, to my boys and see if

693
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:32,159
it's if that's allowable. Carlos Carlos Marquez Carlos says for

694
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,679
one dollar to Christ, the same human nature before or

695
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,519
during creation. The assumption of human nature has to be

696
00:54:38,679 --> 00:54:42,239
during creation, because it happens in the Book of Luke

697
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,760
at the beginning when he is it's called the annunciation.

698
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,760
Right when we figure out we learned that Mary was pregnant.

699
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,079
So if Jesus gets his human nature from Mary, and

700
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:57,559
then the assumption of human nature is during creation. Is

701
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:02,239
the union of the human nature divine exemplify in the Theophanes. Well,

702
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:06,360
there's no human nature in the Theophanes. So the Theophanes

703
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are examples of energetic manifestations of God in time and space,

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particularly God the Son. So it's not the Father, it's

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not particularly the Holy Spirit. Unless there's something that makes

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it clear that there's a manifestation proper to one of

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the hypostases. That would be an energetic manifestation of the

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Father or the Spirit. It's not the person of the

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Father or the Spirit in orthodox theology. So all Theophanes

710
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are first and foremost the Son. So the Theophanes priest

711
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signify the incarnation. But the Theophanes themselves are not the incarnation.

712
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They're just foreshadowings of showing that God can do this. Right,

713
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If God can be, if God the Son can be

714
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in time and space, then he can be in a

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human nature in time and space.

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Speaker 20: Okay, awesome, thank you so much.

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Speaker 37: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 20: I had no idea that you're that already.

719
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Speaker 6: I just got to it. That was your question. Yeah, yeah,

720
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I literally made a Twitter so I can ask you that.

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Speaker 34: I don't have any social media, but I made that

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so I can get that.

723
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Speaker 6: So thank you, sir. H Yeah, the Theophanes and the

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Orthodox view are definitely foreshadowing the incarnation, but the incarnation

725
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is a specific event when Jesus enters the womb of

726
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the Virgin and undergoes a full human development. He never

727
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ceased to be a divine person. He was always the

728
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second person of the Godhead, fully divined, but in becoming incarnate,

729
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he went through all the stages of human development, from

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infancy to mature adulthood. And so, as the church father say,

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since he lived through all the stages of human development,

732
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he can save human beings from every stage. So he

733
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can save infants and he can save adults. Since your

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hypogrithey dollars, I finally attended Orthodox church the first time.

735
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I'm going to explore other Orthodox church in my area

736
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eventually want to become a catechumen. Thank you another Orthodox

737
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online for getting me closer. Hey, glad to hear that.

738
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Sincere hypocrite. I've seen you who super chatting for many

739
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years now. I'm glad that you made that decision, right, Branian.

740
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Five dollars girl, music is haram, but my love for

741
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you ain't wrong. There we go. I like that, girl.

742
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My love for my music is harang, but my love

743
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for you who ain't wrong.

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Speaker 7: I like that.

745
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Speaker 6: I could go with that. Carlos again, one dollar. Did

746
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christis seen human nature during creation? Yes, it was assumed

747
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:26,639
in the beginning of when you read the first couple

748
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,239
chapters of the Book of Luke Miloslaw. Five dollars Haram

749
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core opening song changed my life. That's how cringe core works.

750
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A lot of people don't know this, but crinch core

751
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,480
is a It's much more than what any of you

752
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,000
small money people think. Crinch core is the future. I

753
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,880
don't know how else to put it. And I mean,

754
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,840
even saying it's life changing, it's selling it short. I

755
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,679
want to shout out too, if you guys have noticed

756
00:57:52,679 --> 00:57:57,280
multiple clips channels in the last week have just just

757
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:01,920
bombarded in a good way, just endless clips. I mean

758
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,639
there's dozens of clips in the last two weeks, dozens

759
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:09,639
of shorts. I mean, it's just crazy. So thank you

760
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,599
to all of those clips channels. Shout out to the archive,

761
00:58:13,199 --> 00:58:19,119
Shout out to without lies is on Dies. There's a

762
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ton of them. I can't even keep up with all

763
00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:23,719
of them. So shout out to everybody that's making clips.

764
00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:31,480
Appreciate it. The last two big debates were definitely clipworthy

765
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in many places. So thanks to those guys who were

766
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making all those clips. Appreciate it. And I want to

767
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:45,199
remind your right to we have We have many hits. Okay, okay,

768
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,880
we have many hits. I don't know why people didn't

769
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,159
like the Tom Cruise Tom Kom song, but go check

770
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out all of my B sides. Okay, my Matt del

771
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Honey song, I need an alien to t work for me,

772
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equal Rice for I'm in Big Booty remix, Tom Kum.

773
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:06,519
I mean these are hits. These are under the radar,

774
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:15,480
low key hits, y'all, Inky, do we get some straight

775
00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:25,599
up Mesopotamian apologetics in the house miloslaw five dollars haram

776
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Core is a new way of transcending it all exactly. See,

777
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,639
you're you're starting to vibe with me. What's up?

778
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 20: Man?

779
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 6: I'm you hello? Sounds like you got an ancient Mesopotamian

780
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:50,199
connection on your cell phone? Are you there? Ink?

781
00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 31: You do?

782
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 6: What's up? You need to go need? Maybe you need

783
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,880
to go talk to Inana Eana needs to pay you

784
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:09,880
a cell phone bill? This lacker, what's up? Enana?

785
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,239
Speaker 8: Ain't paying my cell phone bill, internet bill to Comcast,

786
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,159
ain't been paid by mama?

787
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 6: Enon? What's up? Man z lack? You gotta un mute?

788
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 2: Hey?

789
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:27,519
Speaker 6: What's going on?

790
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 12: Jay?

791
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Speaker 7: Hey?

792
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:35,159
Speaker 38: So I saw the last debate. I'm actually uh. I

793
01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:39,239
love doing apologetics on on x here. It's like a sport.

794
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,599
It's pretty fun. So definitely caught that debate. I've been

795
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,360
so I guess when you do apologetics to run into

796
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,880
that question about the trinity a lot.

797
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Speaker 31: Everybody always acts confused.

798
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Speaker 6: About how it works.

799
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Speaker 38: So I've been I've been trying out a way of

800
01:00:55,679 --> 01:00:59,519
explaining the trinity. But the red flag for me is

801
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:02,480
like I've been or hurt anybody explain it this way,

802
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,320
and so that usually is like, am I doing like

803
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,599
some weird gnostic things? So I was hoping to run

804
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:11,000
it past you and see what kind of I guess

805
01:01:11,079 --> 01:01:15,119
feedback you'd give me on the explanation A right, So

806
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:18,719
I guess the way The way I've been explaining it is,

807
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you know, when you read about the Father, generally it's

808
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associated with the will.

809
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Speaker 20: You know, the father's will.

810
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Speaker 7: Jesus does the father's will.

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Speaker 38: Jesus is the word, you know, the Word of God,

812
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and the Holy Spirit is inside you.

813
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Speaker 6: So you know.

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Speaker 20: When i'm you know, if I was as a father,

815
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if I'm talking.

816
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Speaker 38: To my son, I have a will for what I

817
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,320
want to say, and boring of my will would be

818
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:44,760
the word.

819
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Speaker 7: So the Son of God is born of the will.

820
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Speaker 6: We also see Jesus, and so it's automatically not right

821
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,000
because the son is not born of will. In fact,

822
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this is a debate between the Arians and into the Orthodox,

823
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:05,440
because the Arians argue that the sun is generated by will,

824
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and anything that's by will is common to all three

825
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,920
persons because will is a property of nature, So all

826
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three persons in the Trinity share the same will. Now,

827
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the analogy that's sometimes made in the Church Fathers on

828
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this point prior to Augustine is that the Father is

829
01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:24,400
like a mind, the Son is like the word, and

830
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the Spirit is like the breath. That's a patristic analogy

831
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,719
that's used, but any kind of analogy like this falls

832
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apart and doesn't really work, because all analogies are just

833
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things that relate to the created order, which is made

834
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,679
up of parts. And the problem is, of course, that

835
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:46,039
the persons aren't parts. So while attributes can be in

836
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:50,079
a loose sense analogous, that you can't say that the

837
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trinity that any person is a product of will. This,

838
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,519
by the way, is another reason why we say that

839
01:02:57,119 --> 01:02:59,440
not Mormons Roman Catholics are wrong with the pilioque is

840
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because they each that the Holy Spirit proceeds from will.

841
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But that would make the spirit subordinate and a product.

842
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:11,480
And that's actually the very identical debate that Athanasius has

843
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:13,679
with the Arians who say that the sun is a

844
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product of will. So I would say, no, those are

845
01:03:17,159 --> 01:03:26,000
not good analogies. Elias, welcome everybody. You missed one hour

846
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:30,480
of singing. Shame on you. What's up? Man?

847
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm too Oh.

848
01:03:34,119 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 6: One of them is kind of like an anecdotic speaking

849
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,639
of the mic. I can't hear you do? Oh, shoot

850
01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:40,519
my god, let me take off my head.

851
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:45,079
Speaker 7: Hello.

852
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:50,679
Speaker 37: Hey, okay, one, I just want to I argue with

853
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,199
the crazy person today on campus. I'm a cate of Cuman,

854
01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:58,519
slowly learning theology and things like that, but preaching craziness,

855
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:00,480
talking about how you can feel the Holy and his

856
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:03,559
wrists and his ankles. I'm on my college campus today.

857
01:04:04,639 --> 01:04:07,000
He said that it goes in his stomach and tells

858
01:04:07,079 --> 01:04:08,440
him when Christ is talking to him.

859
01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 20: So I obviously decided I'm going to this.

860
01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:15,719
Speaker 6: This is that, this is that uh that shining theology, right,

861
01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:20,159
remember the shining when he's like Tony right, and he

862
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:22,440
says he lives in his tummy.

863
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 3: Something like that, and I got some weird vibes.

864
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 37: So I talked to him and you know, like the

865
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,360
saying where like the demons will flee from the sign

866
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,519
of the cross, uh huh.

867
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 3: He was talking to me about how.

868
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,039
Speaker 37: I come to Christ, and I was like, oh, well,

869
01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:36,679
I just crossed myself and I crossed.

870
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,559
Speaker 3: Myself in front of him, and he got so angry talking.

871
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,679
Speaker 37: About and he was like, you think the Treach is

872
01:04:43,719 --> 01:04:45,559
a building, and.

873
01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:46,679
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's an institution.

874
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 37: It's and I kept like trying to He kept saying,

875
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:51,519
You're you're deceived, You're deceived, You're deceived, and I just

876
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:54,039
kept asking him by who, And then my question for

877
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:56,400
you there is like obviously dealing with him is not

878
01:04:56,599 --> 01:05:01,440
really like, uh, conducive to a positive.

879
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:02,119
Speaker 6: Experience for either of us.

880
01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:04,119
Speaker 37: I kind of came in there just for fun, but like,

881
01:05:08,679 --> 01:05:10,159
this is the only thing we can do pray for.

882
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,119
Is there any way to speak to them on like

883
01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:14,559
a one to one basis when they're that crazy?

884
01:05:14,639 --> 01:05:16,239
Speaker 3: Because I know you deal with people like that all

885
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,880
the time, and I, like I thought about it.

886
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,719
Speaker 37: I was like, oh man, Twitter spaces, Like I cannot

887
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,840
imagine speaking to people like this guy, like you know,

888
01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:27,400
shining theology on the daily, Like how do you address

889
01:05:27,519 --> 01:05:28,119
these people.

890
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 3: And actually try to guide them towards the truth?

891
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,719
Speaker 7: Like is it arrogant to think that I can do that?

892
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 3: That's that's my question.

893
01:05:33,159 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 6: I mean I think you can feel out pretty quickly

894
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,840
whether somebody's open to what you're saying or not, and

895
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,360
if they're not, just move on. So that's what I

896
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:40,679
would do.

897
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

898
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 37: And then my second quick question, this one is regarding iconography.

899
01:05:46,039 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 3: Am I okay to ask that?

900
01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:50,519
Speaker 6: Or yeah, it's it's whatever, okay.

901
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 37: So I know that oftentimes, within you know, our Christian thought,

902
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,719
we do not portray the Father. I was just in

903
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,400
Romania with my wife on like a second when we

904
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,960
were going and visiting her family and Malania is great,

905
01:06:04,039 --> 01:06:05,719
like super orthodox. I love it, Like you go to

906
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,760
a restaurant, there's an icon corner, It's awesome. A lot

907
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,559
of churches have like two main icons on the front,

908
01:06:14,639 --> 01:06:17,599
one of Christ at the right hand of the Ancient

909
01:06:17,679 --> 01:06:21,000
of Days, and I'm wondering, like, what is the is there?

910
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, So there's a couple exceptions to this Ancient of Days, right,

911
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,719
there's a couple exceptions, which is the Ancient of Days

912
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,280
is one of the exceptions. And the way it's supposed

913
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,920
to work is that when the Ancient of Day's icon

914
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is done, it's supposed to picture the Ancient of Days

915
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as an older version of Christ, not that Christ is

916
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,519
an old man, but that that's the only way that

917
01:06:43,559 --> 01:06:48,599
you could symbolically portray the hypostasis of the Father is

918
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,000
as Christ, because Christ is, as he says, the only

919
01:06:52,039 --> 01:06:56,719
image of the Father. So I think it's satan. It's

920
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,280
the This comes up in the Moscow icons a nod

921
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where they discussed the one one way that he can't

922
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be ortrayed, which is as Ancient Days. But it's not

923
01:07:05,639 --> 01:07:08,519
portrayal of the hypostasis or the Father directly. And this

924
01:07:08,639 --> 01:07:10,880
is why when you see in Revelation one when Christ

925
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,639
appears right, he has like shining white hair and this

926
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:18,800
kind of stuff, because it's it's radiant, and he's it's

927
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:25,599
yakub exactly exactly right, proving that he's like Cornell West.

928
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,880
So but anyway, yeah, we're gonna move on. I appreciate that.

929
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But yeah, that's what I would say. I'd say that

930
01:07:34,159 --> 01:07:38,800
if you read the Aspensky Lawsky Book, Volume two, it

931
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,599
covers that very issue really really well. It's probably the

932
01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:47,840
best coverage of that topic I've ever seen. Channing Tatum,

933
01:07:47,880 --> 01:08:12,360
what's up? Channing Tatum? Go ahead, Chad? What's up? Are

934
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,359
you there? You turn your mic on?

935
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:19,079
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

936
01:08:21,079 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 6: I barely heard you. What's up either, Chad Tatum? Channing Tatum,

937
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:36,399
what's up? Can't hear you?

938
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 3: Do?

939
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 6: I don't know. We almost did moist mojave cakes. We

940
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:59,640
got a pervy Indian in the house. What's up? Yep?

941
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 7: All right?

942
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 6: I'm a big fan. Jay.

943
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 7: How would you approach on.

944
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,319
Speaker 3: Like your your parents, my parents, like Protestants presidents?

945
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 6: How would you like approach like trying to get them

946
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,880
to understand or you ever played thumb knuckles?

947
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 31: No?

948
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:26,239
Speaker 6: Well, look up? How to do thumb knuckles, and then

949
01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:27,960
I want you to walk up to your dad and

950
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:31,520
just thump them in the nose and be like, become Orthodox,

951
01:09:32,199 --> 01:09:36,079
all right? Bow and then be then suddenly say become

952
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:40,840
Orthodox and he will all right. How would I approach parents? Uh,

953
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,000
don't try to argue or theologically Uh, you know, directly

954
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,800
discourse with parents unless they ask you questions. That's the

955
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,079
only time that you should ever talk about that kind

956
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:53,680
of stuff to your parents, because if you try to

957
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,800
argue with your parents, especially if you're in your twenties,

958
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,800
they're not gonna listen to you. In fact, you're brought

959
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,600
your is probably never gonna listen to you if you

960
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,840
argue or debate with them. It's only ever appropriate, I think,

961
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,319
to answer their questions if they ask you. That's it.

962
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:21,720
Walmart Wade, what's up? Walmart Wade's over an electronics section

963
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:31,560
every day, low prices? What's up? Walmart Wade? Big Boss says,

964
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,119
for fifteen dollars, I put my money where my mouth is.

965
01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:36,399
They call that bitcoin. I can't tell if that it's

966
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,760
a super chat or some sort of hype lyric, but

967
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,640
I like it. London, three dollars do most Catholics and

968
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:50,079
Orthodox take communion from the same cup. Yes, I thought

969
01:10:50,119 --> 01:10:53,159
of that always grossed me out. Well, I mean there's

970
01:10:53,239 --> 01:10:59,840
alcohol in wine, so when the wine goes into the

971
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:06,079
it's disinfected. So you're not getting sick from people. Also,

972
01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:07,840
by the way, we believe in the real presence, and

973
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,359
so we don't think it's going to get you sick.

974
01:11:10,119 --> 01:11:13,119
I knew to the faith. No offense, It's okay, Anonymous,

975
01:11:13,119 --> 01:11:16,159
five dollars. You should do a song about Sam Schamun

976
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:21,159
on shrooms. Sam schrum Moon talking to a machine. Elf.

977
01:11:21,279 --> 01:11:23,119
You are not who you say you are. You're a

978
01:11:23,239 --> 01:11:25,880
lying bastard. I wish I could do a Sam Schumann impression.

979
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,199
I would do that, but I can't do it Sam impression.

980
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,439
He has a very unique voice. I can't do it.

981
01:11:32,359 --> 01:11:35,000
That would be funny, though, if he was doing his

982
01:11:35,239 --> 01:11:39,159
debates with a machine, Elf, that would be funny. David,

983
01:11:39,239 --> 01:11:41,560
twenty dollars. I appreciate all that you do. Thank you, David.

984
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,840
Appreciate that super chatting, that support how old night. Five dollars.

985
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,560
Jay converted to black Heeber Israelite and now he making

986
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,239
black Hebrew Israelite tunes. Yes, if you just turned into

987
01:11:52,359 --> 01:11:55,199
the tuned into the song. At the beginning, we did

988
01:11:55,319 --> 01:12:01,960
a Billy Carson song. I gave the audience requests right

989
01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:05,840
options to request songs, and so we sang improv songs,

990
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,560
cringe core off the cuff, and we had a Billy

991
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,039
Carson song. We had a wy Mom song, we had

992
01:12:12,079 --> 01:12:19,399
a Yakub song. So yes, I convert it Anonymous one

993
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,840
dollar Jay, I'm I have a Mormon who wants to

994
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:26,800
debate you. Okay, I mean, bro, we do open live

995
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,239
streams all the time. I'm not going to give a

996
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,119
formal debate to some random Mormon dude. But he is

997
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:37,000
welcome to call anytime. Can we plan for him to

998
01:12:37,039 --> 01:12:40,560
call just he can just hop on? So thank you Anonymous,

999
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,439
just telling to hop on anytime, East Kentucky, Paypiggy one dollar.

1000
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,560
I showed my boomer dad you're Randy Ball's video. He

1001
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,119
wasn't sure how to react. Well, you know, I was

1002
01:12:49,159 --> 01:12:51,560
gonna do a stream just talking about comedians and whining

1003
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,760
and bitching, but I decided not to. I don't know why,

1004
01:12:53,800 --> 01:13:00,720
because we we just went with open debate. But yeah,

1005
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,760
I just there's a lot of divides when it comes

1006
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:09,399
to comedy. One of those divides is generational Boomers just

1007
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:14,199
don't get the kind of stuff that anybody Millennial and Under.

1008
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,159
I mean you started getting weird comedy with gen X,

1009
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,600
So technically, yes, it starts with gen X. Like the

1010
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:33,520
state I never liked. Who's the Skittles Canadian troupe that

1011
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,800
everybody likes. I'm going blank, I never liked them, but

1012
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,680
they were weird kids in the hall. I mean that's

1013
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:47,920
gen X comedy state gen X. You know, a lot

1014
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:53,039
of popular sketch troop from the nineties stuff was gen

1015
01:13:53,319 --> 01:13:57,600
X and it was getting weird. But Boomers just never

1016
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:03,079
vibe with that. Very very rare. So it'd be interesting

1017
01:14:03,159 --> 01:14:06,479
to see or to know why that is. I wondered

1018
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,640
about that for a long time, like why why do

1019
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:15,119
Because Millennial and Under, especially the gen X is always

1020
01:14:15,159 --> 01:14:19,800
like a transition phase between the generations, so music wise,

1021
01:14:20,279 --> 01:14:23,439
like Boomers are never going to like Millennial and Under

1022
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,239
music for the most part, but gen X is that bridge, right,

1023
01:14:27,319 --> 01:14:29,520
because some gen X will like Boomer stuff, but then

1024
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:34,600
some gen X will like Millennial and understuff, So it

1025
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,239
seems like there's always that the one that's between the

1026
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:42,319
two is a bridge generation. But there is some sort

1027
01:14:42,359 --> 01:14:48,840
of divide between boomer era and everything millennial and under

1028
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:55,720
which is never ever going to be bridged ever, which

1029
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,840
is interesting. Why is that? I also think there's an

1030
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,039
IQ gap to with. I'm more and more starting to

1031
01:15:01,119 --> 01:15:05,960
think this is that, like what is funny? This is

1032
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,880
another gap. It's another divide, like people who have like

1033
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,159
I don't know, one, one hundred and one, ten and

1034
01:15:12,359 --> 01:15:15,239
under IQ, like they're just not ever gonna find certain

1035
01:15:15,279 --> 01:15:18,800
things funny. They're always gonna find like really mid tier

1036
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:24,880
stuff very funny, like the Comedy Central comedians or something

1037
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:30,039
like that. I don't know, or some of the popular

1038
01:15:30,199 --> 01:15:33,159
comedians that we're supposed to think are funny. There's just

1039
01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:35,520
something I don't know. It's just weird. I can't figure

1040
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:41,359
it out. It's a mystery. Uh, it's open debate, dude,

1041
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,279
So what do you mean, no Christian? Did I've defended

1042
01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:47,359
at Trinity in every debate with Muslims so far? I

1043
01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:49,800
mean this is We're going on like six seven eight

1044
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,079
Muslim debates like the top Literally the only one I

1045
01:15:53,119 --> 01:15:56,399
haven't debated is no. I guess there's a couple I

1046
01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:02,159
haven't debated, Zakir Naik Mohammed, hit John and Ali Dawa.

1047
01:16:02,319 --> 01:16:04,279
Does Ali Dawa even do debates, I don't even know.

1048
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:08,079
But so there are three prominent Muslims that I can

1049
01:16:08,119 --> 01:16:09,720
think of that I haven't debated, but the rest of

1050
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:14,399
them we've done debates. With so Yousef you can call in,

1051
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,439
you agree to people in the chat agree. You think

1052
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:21,319
it's IQ. I think so too. No, No, I'm not

1053
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,199
saying so it's different with boomers. I don't think with

1054
01:16:24,279 --> 01:16:26,560
boomers it's totally like an IQ thing. I'm saying two

1055
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,159
different issues. You could take low IQ people from any

1056
01:16:30,199 --> 01:16:34,439
age group and they're not gonna think certain things are

1057
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:40,279
funny that high IQ or above mid tier IQ people

1058
01:16:40,359 --> 01:16:43,399
think are funny. I don't know why. It's a weird thing,

1059
01:16:44,039 --> 01:16:48,000
but I mean, the more I think about it, I mean,

1060
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:54,439
humor requires getting different senses to things like if you're

1061
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,520
a let's say you're a literalist or you're you're a

1062
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,600
very low IQ person. You don't understand nuance or like

1063
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:04,840
Molti staple senses to words or intentional absurdity. You just

1064
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,239
kind of read everything it's literal. So i Q has

1065
01:17:09,279 --> 01:17:11,640
to play a big role as well. But there's a

1066
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,520
separate issue with the boomers, because you gotta have a

1067
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:17,560
super high Q boomer who is not going to think,

1068
01:17:18,119 --> 01:17:21,359
you know, world peace is funny. It's gonna be like,

1069
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:21,800
what is that?

1070
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 3: So?

1071
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 6: Anyway, Aiden, Aiden and a Bettan. I'm mute, Aiden, I'm mute.

1072
01:18:00,039 --> 01:18:02,680
Storm the cat five dollars the offspring at the end

1073
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,600
of Alien Romunas looked like a demon. Yeah, by the way,

1074
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,159
I meant to do it. I forgot. I was gonna

1075
01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:11,079
do a discussion of the symbolism and Alien Romulus, and

1076
01:18:11,159 --> 01:18:15,600
I forgot. Probably should just do a podcast on Alien

1077
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,239
or maybe the new ones, maybe Pronetheus, Alien Covenant and Romulus,

1078
01:18:20,079 --> 01:18:23,560
because I think I did a stream a few years ago.

1079
01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:26,880
But see, here's the thing with the way this works now,

1080
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,800
like the streams that I did in twenty eighteen, when

1081
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:37,359
I covered like a zillion movies, I had probably one

1082
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,079
fourth the audience then that I have no right. So

1083
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:45,920
so all of these streams, people haven't seen these, and

1084
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,000
they're probably buried in the algorithm. Anyway, I'll probably just

1085
01:18:48,039 --> 01:18:51,560
redo everything. What do you guys think?

1086
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:53,319
Speaker 2: Stream?

1087
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,119
Speaker 6: Are you there? Dude? What's up? Aiden? We can't hear you.

1088
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,680
Alien and Aliens Decoded four. It's actually five years ago

1089
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,720
eight thousand views, so that they didn't get hurly any views. Well,

1090
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,479
I guess I got that's from five years ago. That

1091
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:15,359
was good views for me. It was this old dire

1092
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:34,920
Wave check this out. Fine, now I'm trying to see

1093
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:41,159
exactly when this was. September twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, so

1094
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:45,199
almost five years anyway, are you there?

1095
01:19:45,279 --> 01:19:45,399
Speaker 4: Man?

1096
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 6: He fell off. I gave you all that time and

1097
01:19:48,720 --> 01:20:02,439
you ran away. You fell away? Cody, So Cody, Cody

1098
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,920
hydro codin. What's up? What's up? Man?

1099
01:20:09,359 --> 01:20:10,359
Speaker 3: Quasi modo?

1100
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, he feels that you know you like that one.

1101
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,079
Speaker 31: Well, I'm sorry I missed the first part of the thing.

1102
01:20:17,159 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 3: I just tuned in.

1103
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:18,279
Speaker 31: Probably like ten.

1104
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 6: Well you miss about four new awesome cringe Coors songs.

1105
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,920
I have to I have to rewind him then, right, Okay,

1106
01:20:26,039 --> 01:20:26,760
what's on your mind?

1107
01:20:28,399 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 3: So?

1108
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:33,319
Speaker 36: I'm also a Christian and I want to know why

1109
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,680
more people don't talk about creation theory, Like, how come

1110
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:39,680
you don't talk about it more?

1111
01:20:41,039 --> 01:20:41,159
Speaker 14: Uh?

1112
01:20:41,279 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 6: What do you mean? I'm talking about it a ton?

1113
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:49,199
Speaker 3: I feel like there's no debate about it though, you

1114
01:20:49,239 --> 01:20:49,680
know what I mean?

1115
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 6: No, that's not true, Like you can find within the

1116
01:20:53,039 --> 01:20:58,239
last six years probably probably ten or fifteen times I've

1117
01:20:58,279 --> 01:21:00,439
debated with people on evolution.

1118
01:21:03,079 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 36: Okay, yeah, because I know, like doctor Can't Hoven is

1119
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,640
big about like he used to be big about it

1120
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,560
and he still is, but he doesn't get like any

1121
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:11,680
views on his videos.

1122
01:21:13,279 --> 01:21:15,039
Speaker 6: Well, you know, it could it could just be that.

1123
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:17,399
It could just be that, like that debate has been

1124
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:22,479
had like so many times that I don't know, maybe

1125
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,479
people are tired of it. I don't. I don't follow

1126
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,439
Kent Hoven, so I don't. I don't know what his

1127
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,479
thing is. But anyway, I appreciate that. But you can

1128
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:37,279
find in my archives multiple talks, multiple discussions on it.

1129
01:21:37,319 --> 01:21:38,640
I think after a while, you get you kind of

1130
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,199
get tired of the same old debate, like I get

1131
01:21:40,279 --> 01:21:43,600
tired of like we did. We did so many atheist

1132
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,680
debates in the last six years that you just kind

1133
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:51,560
of now it's like, Okay, I've the last few years

1134
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,640
it's been primarily Muslim debates, so and that's kind of interesting.

1135
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,920
But even that gets old. It's sort of like, how

1136
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,840
many times can I have the same debate? And another

1137
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,600
thing that happens is that you if you do debates

1138
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,520
for a long time, a lot of you always heard

1139
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,439
that it's the same stuff over and over. So it's like,

1140
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,439
you know, when are we going to hear something new? Well,

1141
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,159
probably not from the atheists. We're not gonna hear anything new.

1142
01:22:14,359 --> 01:22:20,720
So so maybe that's topic fatigue. Maybe that's part of it.

1143
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,439
I don't know, no one special.

1144
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 33: Yah, well, hey, how's it going?

1145
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:37,279
Speaker 6: Hey? Yeah?

1146
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,119
Speaker 33: I actually have like three questions, but I don't know

1147
01:22:40,159 --> 01:22:46,239
which is more important. So I watched the presentation if

1148
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,159
that was called is there a patal plow in a

1149
01:22:48,279 --> 01:22:50,119
Crimson Dental Argument for God?

1150
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,319
Speaker 3: By Michael Riley, And.

1151
01:22:55,159 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 33: He went over a paper written by a guy named

1152
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,520
Barry Shroud back.

1153
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 6: In Yeah, we've covered this many times, Oh you have?

1154
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 33: Okay, Well, I mean maybe you could point me, like

1155
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,880
I go down your channel so I couldn't find it.

1156
01:23:09,039 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 6: Well, Barry Stroud's argument is a problem with kanti and

1157
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,880
transcendental arguments, and so it's not addressing what the trans

1158
01:23:15,039 --> 01:23:18,520
argument for God is, So it's addressing something totally different,

1159
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,960
well not totally different, but not not the same thing

1160
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,760
as what we're arguing. So, in other words, if you're

1161
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:29,239
a secular atheist and your presuppositions are secularism, I don't

1162
01:23:29,279 --> 01:23:32,760
think you would do much to try to use. In

1163
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,600
other words, if I was not a theist and I

1164
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,680
was just arguing for CONTs transcendental arguments, I would agree

1165
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with Barry Stroud's critiques of the weaknesses and the lack

1166
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,880
But the transfer argument for God is not a secular

1167
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:46,880
Kantian argument.

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Speaker 33: Okay, I'm not I'm not a You don't have to

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01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,239
worry about that. So I was just curious because I'm

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01:23:54,319 --> 01:23:57,960
kind of like new to this whole topic.

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Speaker 6: I've done two streams. I've done two long streams addressing objections.

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I think I covered it in one of those.

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Speaker 33: Okay, so my second question might be a little weird.

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I've heard it said that the word soul does not

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01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:17,760
appear in the Bible. I don't know that if this

1176
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is factual or not. What's the orthodox view on the soul?

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Speaker 6: And like what it is? Uh yeah, of course that's

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01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,560
the word soul. I mean, of course it does.

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Speaker 3: What I mean, I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think that's uh so preposter like it's kind of

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01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,479
on the surface preposterous, like.

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Speaker 7: We can try breath or something like that. Like the

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translation means.

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Speaker 6: I think, what is it in the Old Testament. It's

1185
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like nep fash or something like that. I don't know.

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01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,520
Speaker 33: Like I said, I'm not an expert on new this,

1187
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:59,720
so I'm very new to this, the transcendental argument, orthodoxy

1188
01:25:00,079 --> 01:25:00,800
and things like that.

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Speaker 6: But I am aware of so hold on. So right,

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So God breathed into Adam and he has made a

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living soul. And you're saying, well, the word.

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Speaker 7: Is I'm nothing.

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01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 6: It's the word is the fresh right here. So it's

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used four hundred and seventy five times in the Bible

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for a human soul. Okay, all right, Now beyond that,

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how would Christ, you know, descend into hades if you

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didn't have a soul.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point.

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Speaker 31: Okay, you covered that.

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Speaker 33: So I've I've heard you mentioned common says philosophers you're

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01:25:58,119 --> 01:26:03,680
probably aware of, like Thomas Reid and acquire Aguncity Human

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01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,560
Mind on the principles of common sense as like a

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reputation to Hume's skepticism.

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Speaker 6: Are you aware of this, I'm familiar with Thomas Reid

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and common sense philosophia.

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01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 31: Yeah, Like what do you what do you think about it?

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01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 6: Well, I mean it doesn't really do anything to answer

1208
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:25,199
the objections from a strict, uh, you know, justify true

1209
01:26:25,239 --> 01:26:28,399
belief perspective. It basically just kind of hand waves it

1210
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,479
and says we're just going to rely on you know,

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01:26:32,039 --> 01:26:34,960
common sense data and pragmatism. So it's kind of a

1212
01:26:35,039 --> 01:26:40,720
pragmatic move. But to me, that wouldn't solve or get

1213
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,199
us to the status of justification just by hand waving

1214
01:26:44,359 --> 01:26:47,119
or trying to, because it still it begs the question, Okay, well,

1215
01:26:47,159 --> 01:26:49,319
why are we supposed to just trust common sense like

1216
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:50,279
sense data.

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Speaker 33: Yeah, the way I write it was like, because it's

1218
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,520
kind of funny, it's kind of humorous to me, because

1219
01:26:59,359 --> 01:27:02,760
the way I took his argument was that the people

1220
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,760
arguing for skepticism, like Hume, they don't actually believe it

1221
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:12,479
in practice, like they're doing like performative contradictions. They don't

1222
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,600
believe what they're saying in actual practice because they go

1223
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,399
about their lives, write books, do things like that. Right

1224
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,079
that if they read everything was a delusion, Right, why

1225
01:27:20,079 --> 01:27:20,880
would they even do that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Hume doesn't actually believe that the world works that way,

1227
01:27:27,359 --> 01:27:30,800
but he's saying that in terms of epistemology, you can't

1228
01:27:31,039 --> 01:27:35,800
justify you know, the external world induction, regulatory of nature,

1229
01:27:36,199 --> 01:27:39,640
identity over time. None of those things can be empirically

1230
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,000
epistemically justified.

1231
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,039
Speaker 3: Oh so it's basically a justification.

1232
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,159
Speaker 6: Arguments correct, And so Hume is known as the one

1233
01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:48,239
who psychologized as epistemology.

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Speaker 33: All right, yeah, thank you very much for listening those questions.

1235
01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:54,439
I've been trying to get in the stream, but you

1236
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:55,279
always have a topic.

1237
01:27:55,399 --> 01:27:57,399
Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh, open topics.

1238
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 6: Okay, sure, yeah, good questions. Walmart waighed every day low

1239
01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:13,279
price is made in Americ accept this.

1240
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Speaker 7: Could Jay?

1241
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:16,239
Speaker 31: What's up?

1242
01:28:16,359 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 6: Hear me?

1243
01:28:19,319 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 36: Uh?

1244
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:24,199
Speaker 31: I got a disagreement, probably not a debate, full flesh debate.

1245
01:28:24,359 --> 01:28:27,199
But I went to h it's.

1246
01:28:27,039 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 39: About Christ Christophanes in the Old Testament. And I went

1247
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:37,439
to an Orthodox service last Wednesday, and I think it

1248
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,840
was for some feast of Saint Michael.

1249
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 6: Uh, one of one of those days.

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Speaker 39: I mean they there was some hymns and themes about

1251
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,039
him and stuff, But in one of the songs it

1252
01:28:50,199 --> 01:28:56,920
sounded like they were crediting Old Testament theophanies to him,

1253
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:05,720
like the appearing Joshua striking down the Assyrians. Instances in

1254
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,880
the Old Testament that I thought had been about the

1255
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:13,399
Angel of the Lord. But I was a confused by that.

1256
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,359
Maybe I misunderstood what was going on.

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Speaker 6: No, it's it's understandable. A lot of people get confused

1258
01:29:19,079 --> 01:29:22,079
over this. I remember myself being confused as well when this,

1259
01:29:22,319 --> 01:29:24,680
when I first encountered this. Let me pull it up.

1260
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Now you'll notice that there's some clues in Joshua that

1261
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,359
helps us to know. Hold on, I'm trying to find

1262
01:29:31,359 --> 01:29:34,960
the entire It's not letting me go to the books

1263
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,199
of Joshua. It's just pulling up Joshua one. So let

1264
01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:40,399
me go to Joshua Joshua five.

1265
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 31: I think, yeah, I think Shepherd five.

1266
01:29:44,199 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple of clues in there that tell

1267
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,680
us that more is going on. Now. The real solution

1268
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,479
to the problem, just to say from the outset, is

1269
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,920
that you have in the New Assessment, for example, multiple

1270
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:59,640
places where it's explained that two things that somebody might

1271
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,760
think is contradiction. At one point, we're told, Paul says

1272
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,600
in Galatians, that the law was given through angels, and

1273
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,600
yet at the same time we're told in other places

1274
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,159
that it was Jesus who was on Mount Sinai. Jesus

1275
01:30:11,239 --> 01:30:13,239
himself says that he was the one talking to Moses.

1276
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,880
So is it Jesus or is it the Law mediated

1277
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,560
through angels? And actually it's a both and And the

1278
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,479
reason for that is that every time there's a theophany,

1279
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:29,119
it's not just the Son. It's also implied that, due

1280
01:30:29,199 --> 01:30:32,640
to paracaresis in the in dwelling of the persons of

1281
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:36,000
the triad, the Father and the Spirit are also present

1282
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:38,920
because they're never separated, but they're not present in the

1283
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,560
same mode as the Sun, because it's the Sun that's

1284
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,439
the one that's going to become incarnated. So there's a specific,

1285
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,600
unique aspect to the manifestations and the Old Testament to

1286
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,439
the logos. For example, in the Leviticus nine passage where

1287
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,119
we read about the fire and the cloud that comes

1288
01:30:55,159 --> 01:30:58,000
down the glory that comes down, it specifically says the

1289
01:30:58,119 --> 01:31:01,159
Lord was in the cloud, So I think that's supposed

1290
01:31:01,199 --> 01:31:06,359
to be the logos present in that energetic manifestation. Now,

1291
01:31:07,319 --> 01:31:10,359
what that also means is that every time God's present,

1292
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:14,239
he's also present with his angelic host. So, for example,

1293
01:31:14,279 --> 01:31:17,239
when Jesus speaks in Revelation one, when he's pictured as

1294
01:31:17,319 --> 01:31:20,560
the sort of glorified man with the white hair, not yakub,

1295
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:24,479
but that means that it says that John says something

1296
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,640
like a voice of a multitude was there with him.

1297
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,000
And if you read Ezekiel one to ten and eleven,

1298
01:31:30,119 --> 01:31:33,640
where you see him riding the chariot throne, the son

1299
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,600
of Man appears one like a son of Man riding

1300
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:40,479
the chariot, and the chariot are the cherub him. So

1301
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,960
every time the Logos is present, he's also present with

1302
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,720
those angelic hosts. So it's a both and and not

1303
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:52,800
an either or. Again, think to the manifestation to Abraham,

1304
01:31:53,279 --> 01:31:56,119
where it says there's two angels and the Lord. It

1305
01:31:56,239 --> 01:32:00,399
explicitly explains that only one of the three messengers is

1306
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,720
the Lord. The other two are angels who go to

1307
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:07,079
destroy sodomy Goemora. So it's not literally the trinity. That's

1308
01:32:07,159 --> 01:32:10,520
three angels. It symbolizes the trinity and that it's three,

1309
01:32:11,119 --> 01:32:13,960
but only one of them is quote the Lord the logos.

1310
01:32:14,399 --> 01:32:17,199
So the answer is that every time there's a theophany,

1311
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,399
it's also an angelic manifestation of the host's Lord of Sabioth,

1312
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,760
the Lord of the heavenly hosts. But it is primarily

1313
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,479
in first and foremost the Son and I'll show you

1314
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:32,159
that because if you look at when he sees the

1315
01:32:32,199 --> 01:32:37,039
commander of the army the Lord, Joshua says, are you

1316
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:42,560
for us or for the adversaries? And he says no,

1317
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,279
as the commander of the army of the Lord, I

1318
01:32:45,319 --> 01:32:50,279
have now come. And Yoshua falls on his face and

1319
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:55,840
worships and says, what does the Lord say to his servants?

1320
01:32:55,880 --> 01:33:00,880
So he identifies this presence as the Lord. And an

1321
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:05,079
even further and he's worshiping. And even further confirmation is

1322
01:33:05,119 --> 01:33:07,800
that it says the commander of Lord's army said, take

1323
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,680
the sandals off of your feet, for where you stand

1324
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,720
as holy That's exactly what is said in Exodus three

1325
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:18,920
when Moses appears or walks to the appearance of the

1326
01:33:19,279 --> 01:33:22,600
burning bush, and the logos speaks out of the burning

1327
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,239
bush and says, take off your your feet, you are

1328
01:33:25,319 --> 01:33:27,880
in holy ground. So in other words, this is identifying

1329
01:33:28,039 --> 01:33:32,199
it as the same speaker as in the burning bush.

1330
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Speaker 31: Okay, I see I think that.

1331
01:33:38,039 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 20: I think there.

1332
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,319
Speaker 31: Yeah, I may have been a bit confused during the liturgy.

1333
01:33:41,079 --> 01:33:43,359
Speaker 6: Because it seems I'm aware of what you're talking about.

1334
01:33:43,399 --> 01:33:46,560
It does mention Michael the Archangel' you're correct, Okay, so

1335
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:47,800
is So.

1336
01:33:48,119 --> 01:33:51,119
Speaker 31: They're not saying that Michael was in the bush. They're

1337
01:33:51,159 --> 01:33:54,960
not saying that Michael was in the furnace with and Daniel,

1338
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:55,479
and I.

1339
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:58,279
Speaker 6: Think they are. They are saying that I'm saying. That's

1340
01:33:58,319 --> 01:34:01,079
what I'm saying, saying that when ever there's a Theophany,

1341
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,119
it's the entire host of the Lord present with the triad.

1342
01:34:08,359 --> 01:34:09,760
It's both, and that's what I'm saying.

1343
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 31: So the commander in Joshua five is that's the logos, right.

1344
01:34:16,119 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 6: But it's also Michael too, because every time the logos

1345
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,279
is present, he is present with his heavenly hosts.

1346
01:34:24,239 --> 01:34:29,159
Speaker 31: Okay, oh oh, all right, I think I understand it's better.

1347
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 6: So when Jesus manifests to Ezekiel in Ezekiel one through

1348
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:38,760
ten and eleven, right, yeah, it's not just Jesus. I mean,

1349
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:42,720
Jesus could manifest Jesus, but typically the Theophanes, there's also

1350
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:48,680
this heavenly host that's with him. Are you familiar with

1351
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:50,960
what I'm talking about. He's riding a chariot, the chariot

1352
01:34:51,399 --> 01:34:56,239
he's writing a living chariot that is Cherubin. So he's

1353
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,760
present with the heavenly hosts, it's a both.

1354
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 39: And okay, And then I have one last schizo angel

1355
01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:13,680
related uh and I think during that hymn or the chant,

1356
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,560
there's probably a technical name for it I'm missing, but

1357
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:21,600
I think they mentioned like the plague on the firstborn too,

1358
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,319
something about that. And then in one of the psalms,

1359
01:35:24,399 --> 01:35:26,960
I know it's like one of the seven in like

1360
01:35:27,359 --> 01:35:31,359
Psalm seventy something, but it talks about there the angels

1361
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:36,239
kind of enacting, uh, enacting the curses and plagues on Egypt.

1362
01:35:36,319 --> 01:35:39,159
Is there is there like an official teaching on whether

1363
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:44,960
like the destroying angel, if that's the Angel of the Lord,

1364
01:35:45,159 --> 01:35:48,239
if that's Satan, if that's Michael, or is there any

1365
01:35:49,199 --> 01:35:51,880
full explanation on that.

1366
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 6: I don't think there's any dogmatic definition or statement, because

1367
01:35:57,119 --> 01:36:02,079
I mean, conceivably it could be a destroying angel that's

1368
01:36:02,119 --> 01:36:04,239
a good angel, or it could be an angel that

1369
01:36:05,119 --> 01:36:07,319
is the Angel of the Lord. I mean, it's if

1370
01:36:07,399 --> 01:36:10,039
I recall I remember looking into this, I don't remember

1371
01:36:10,079 --> 01:36:13,359
what conclusion I came here, But no, there's not like

1372
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:14,520
a dogmatic statement on this.

1373
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 31: Okay, all right, cool, and it's it's some seventy eight.

1374
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know you're talking about it says that he

1375
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,920
sent a destroying angel amongst them, right yep, yeah, yeah.

1376
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah right around there.

1377
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 31: All right, all right, thanks.

1378
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 6: Chief, Yeah, great questions CEC C C Penison. It's not metatron.

1379
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,079
There is no metatron. That's a cobbalistic thing.

1380
01:36:54,439 --> 01:37:00,159
Speaker 34: Hello, yeah, hey, no, I just wanted to say thanks

1381
01:37:00,199 --> 01:37:00,760
for everything you do.

1382
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:02,079
Speaker 20: No debate, no question.

1383
01:37:02,279 --> 01:37:09,279
Speaker 34: Really, sometimes what you do say is very deep and

1384
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:14,239
profound for what the listener the caller is asking, and

1385
01:37:14,319 --> 01:37:17,760
it sometimes it takes a moment to sink in for

1386
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,920
the person to even respond.

1387
01:37:21,079 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 7: If you get what I'm saying, and.

1388
01:37:25,359 --> 01:37:27,159
Speaker 6: It can cause.

1389
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,039
Speaker 34: You know, that kind of meditative state of like whoa,

1390
01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:32,279
okay that I never.

1391
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 20: Thought of that before.

1392
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,199
Speaker 34: And I just want to encourage you and say that

1393
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:44,399
you're doing everything good. I've gotten so much out of

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your work and everything you do. I follow you, I subscribe.

1395
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:52,960
I'm not questioning anything really, it's just uh yeah, some

1396
01:37:53,119 --> 01:37:55,640
of these people, even myself, I don't really call an often,

1397
01:37:55,760 --> 01:38:01,880
but it's it can be sometimes very not difficult, but

1398
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more than what the person asked for in your response,

1399
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and they need moment a while to like let that

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sink in, and it does afterwards, even after the call,

1401
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,199
after they hang up, and the next day or the

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next week.

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Speaker 3: Think about it.

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01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 34: But I just want to say no, it's all.

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01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 6: Good, okay, and appreciate that.

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01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, I can, I can buzz.

1407
01:38:25,279 --> 01:38:30,520
Speaker 6: Off no pro Yeah, thank you for that. I mean

1408
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,760
I tried to answer that guy's questions in the most

1409
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,359
concise clear way. So I don't if he if he

1410
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:42,239
if that was too much or overload. You know, you

1411
01:38:42,279 --> 01:38:45,079
can always replay the streams and think it through again,

1412
01:38:45,399 --> 01:38:55,479
Aiden Freeman, what's up man? Hey? Yo?

1413
01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 3: So I think you might remember me as the.

1414
01:39:02,079 --> 01:39:05,159
Speaker 34: Guy with a speech impediment asking about purgatory.

1415
01:39:05,199 --> 01:39:07,359
Speaker 3: I think you might remember me as that one guy.

1416
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:12,079
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I don't. Oh, okay, well.

1417
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,399
Speaker 7: Anyway, No, you might as well know me as that

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01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,159
one hill billy who praised Tray Saggy on.

1419
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 6: What's up man? What's on your mind?

1420
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:25,079
Speaker 3: Oh?

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01:39:26,399 --> 01:39:30,159
Speaker 34: I was trying to figure out what topics through arch

1422
01:39:30,199 --> 01:39:30,560
to debate.

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01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:34,199
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean you don't have to do You

1424
01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:36,079
don't have to debate. If you want to ask a

1425
01:39:36,199 --> 01:39:37,359
question or comment, you can.

1426
01:39:38,359 --> 01:39:40,159
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that works too well.

1427
01:39:41,079 --> 01:39:42,279
Speaker 6: I just wanted to know.

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01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 7: What are your thoughts on toll houses.

1429
01:39:49,359 --> 01:39:52,359
Speaker 6: I think that there is a Orthodox tool house teaching

1430
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,159
that we should hold to. I would say, you know,

1431
01:39:55,239 --> 01:39:57,319
you read the Surf and Rose book. I would agree

1432
01:39:57,319 --> 01:39:59,560
with that. I think people can go crazy with it.

1433
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:01,960
It can kind of go extreme and treat it like

1434
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an Orthodox version of purgatory, and they read every statement literally.

1435
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,439
So I do think there is a journey of the soul.

1436
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:10,800
I don't think we have to read it in some

1437
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,159
almost purgatory way, but I do think it's part of

1438
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:18,880
the Orthodox tradition. Neil van canegan, what's up? But thank

1439
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:32,079
you for that question. Got to unmute Neil, what's up?

1440
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,920
Storm of the Cat said the offspring at the end

1441
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,399
of Alien, Rominys looked like a demon. The android also

1442
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:42,600
talks about evolving humanity into a higher stage, which sounds Luciferian.

1443
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:44,439
Oh absolutely, I mean I thought all of that, and

1444
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:46,640
then there's a lot of symbolism going on with Romulus

1445
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:51,640
and Remus, the wolf mother, the genetic experimentation with the girl.

1446
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:53,800
I don't want to spoil it. And people didn't see it.

1447
01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:57,560
I thought Romans is pretty good scary movie. Just for

1448
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:02,399
a horror movie, you should probably just do. Because we

1449
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:06,199
did a podcast on the original Alien series. We should

1450
01:41:06,199 --> 01:41:11,680
do a podcast on Prometheus, Covenant and Romulus. All right,

1451
01:41:12,079 --> 01:41:21,920
people keep dropping off beer Enjoyer. Just straight to the point,

1452
01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:28,159
ouxmere fifteen dollars? Are you gonna get tickets for races?

1453
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 7: Well?

1454
01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:32,319
Speaker 6: I was hoping it was going to be a announcement

1455
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:38,079
of a new album. They're gonna do a new tour,

1456
01:41:38,279 --> 01:41:40,800
but then it's like, oh, we're only going to tour UK,

1457
01:41:42,359 --> 01:41:45,399
and I'm like what So No, I don't think I

1458
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:48,199
can buy tickets and fly to the UK for Oasis.

1459
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:50,479
Maybe when they do a US tour.

1460
01:41:54,279 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 3: Eight Yeah, Hey, what are your thoughts on them?

1461
01:41:59,399 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 39: On the idea of the American melting pot and its

1462
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:07,840
origins from Israel, sangwell, what are your thoughts on that whole?

1463
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 6: On that concept, I don't think melting pot works anywhere.

1464
01:42:13,039 --> 01:42:15,840
It's a stupid idea. I don't know who the guy

1465
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:17,960
was that you mentioned, but no, I wouldn't think it's

1466
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:30,439
a very good idea, Damien, what's up? We may call

1467
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:32,520
it a night here in a minute, and then I'm

1468
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,800
starting to get kind of a headache. So I did.

1469
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I did the part two lecture. By the way, for

1470
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everybody who's a subscriber to the Juice Merleu book. It

1471
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,800
will be up. It's already loaded up. I just haven't

1472
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done the links yet. So but I did that talk

1473
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:47,439
earlier today.

1474
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 7: What's up, man, how's it going?

1475
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,600
Speaker 6: Jam good? What's on your mind?

1476
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 3: So my question is, was Jesus killed by the Pharisees

1477
01:42:58,560 --> 01:42:59,640
and the sodysease?

1478
01:43:01,159 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 6: Jesus was killed by a coalition of the Romans and

1479
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:08,039
the Jews. M So it was.

1480
01:43:08,159 --> 01:43:10,359
Speaker 3: It was like a combination of both of them.

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01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:15,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why both are considered vile in the New Testament.

1482
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,960
John calls Rome the beast uh, and I believe in

1483
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,920
the Book of Revelation the whore is apostate Israel.

1484
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,399
Speaker 3: M Okay, thank you for clarifying that.

1485
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, good question. Mark of Melbourne.

1486
01:43:37,079 --> 01:43:37,399
Speaker 5: N or.

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01:43:44,279 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 6: Cute Willie. Five dollars. I know an educated Mormon who

1488
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:52,920
wants to debate you on the Church Father. Okay, he

1489
01:43:53,039 --> 01:43:56,159
can step into this space anytime, but I'm not going

1490
01:43:56,239 --> 01:43:59,239
to give a formal debate to some random Mormon dude

1491
01:44:00,199 --> 01:44:03,960
ignorant five dollars. We believe in God describing Christianity, I

1492
01:44:04,079 --> 01:44:07,760
believe more in my experience while I believe in God

1493
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:10,199
in Christian I believe more in my experience of reality.

1494
01:44:10,199 --> 01:44:13,359
I'm not sure what that means. I can't confirm the

1495
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:19,920
Nicene creed. Uh well, I would say the critiques of

1496
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:23,239
skepticism and the transcendent argument is the closest thing I

1497
01:44:23,319 --> 01:44:26,720
could come to offering a philosophical argument for the for

1498
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:35,039
the position. What's up? Man? You know I'm mute, dude? Yeah?

1499
01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:35,640
Speaker 19: Can I jai?

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01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 20: It's all I'm mica.

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01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 15: Melbourne's a question for you, do you I'm just want

1502
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,000
to take him on back to the l like Middle Ages.

1503
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:46,479
Have you heard of Marchael Servetus?

1504
01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 6: Sure, of course.

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01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 20: Do you know much about him?

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01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:52,600
Speaker 3: I do?

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01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, he had a Socinian Ariyan view of Christ and

1508
01:44:57,359 --> 01:44:59,840
Calvin hadn't put to death it.

1509
01:45:00,079 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 20: Do you know much about the man himself? His accomplishments?

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01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 3: No?

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01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:07,159
Speaker 15: Okay, Well, he was one of the smartest men in Europe.

1512
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He was the one who first described the cardio pulmonary system.

1513
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:15,600
He was a polymath, literally a lot smarter than you

1514
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,720
or I, one of the smartest men in Europe. The

1515
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:22,359
question is why would such a smart person right find

1516
01:45:22,399 --> 01:45:25,680
it so hard to understand the Trinity, and why would

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01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:31,760
such a person voluntarily sacrifice his life at the stake.

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01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,319
Speaker 20: To deny that trinity if it wasn't true.

1519
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,239
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, this is a fallacy because it has

1520
01:45:39,319 --> 01:45:42,239
nothing to do with what's true or false. You know,

1521
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,800
given the examples that you gave of his life, like,

1522
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:46,479
none of that has anything to do with whether trinity

1523
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,039
is true or false. People all over the world.

1524
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,520
Speaker 20: Why would someone like Well, the question is why would somebody?

1525
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,239
Speaker 6: I mean, people can have again, people can have multiple

1526
01:45:54,319 --> 01:45:56,760
motivations for why they believe or don't believe, but really

1527
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:58,479
has nothing to do with IQ at the end of

1528
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:02,520
the day. And on the other hand, me finished at

1529
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,039
the end of the day, it's not a question of IQ,

1530
01:46:05,279 --> 01:46:06,800
it's a question of virtue and vice.

1531
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:09,039
Speaker 7: Raw.

1532
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:11,520
Speaker 20: So you think you think that you're.

1533
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:14,560
Speaker 6: I mean, i Q can be a stumbling block.

1534
01:46:15,079 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 15: We're going to project onto him of some sort of

1535
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:18,399
a negative character trice.

1536
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:25,319
Speaker 6: No, I didn't. I said that, even even because.

1537
01:46:25,279 --> 01:46:26,560
Speaker 20: He's an upstanding character.

1538
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:28,239
Speaker 15: I mean, what why would he burn at the stake

1539
01:46:28,399 --> 01:46:30,760
and why would the others kill him for denoing the

1540
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,000
trinity if it was true?

1541
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 20: You say, we wouldn't.

1542
01:46:34,199 --> 01:46:36,239
Speaker 6: You don't understand how dumble of an argument this is.

1543
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:39,560
So you think that what proves something true if somebody

1544
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:40,600
is willing to die for it.

1545
01:46:41,199 --> 01:46:43,199
Speaker 20: I'm just saying it just sounds like a particular Do

1546
01:46:43,279 --> 01:46:43,800
you think.

1547
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 6: That they're all right?

1548
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 4: Right?

1549
01:46:45,239 --> 01:46:48,319
Speaker 6: Do you think that there are intelligent Buddhists who have

1550
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:50,479
burned themselves in protest?

1551
01:46:53,159 --> 01:46:55,359
Speaker 15: Well, let's got nothing to do with the Michael's advice.

1552
01:46:56,279 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 6: You don't see how that that is. I'm giving you

1553
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,880
an example ball to demonstrate how this is not a

1554
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:03,319
good argument. You don't understand that.

1555
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 15: I'm just wondering why people got burned at the stake.

1556
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,359
Speaker 6: So you're not listening to my argument or why this is.

1557
01:47:11,119 --> 01:47:12,359
Speaker 20: Buddhists spur in themselves.

1558
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 15: That don't they don't get held and tied up by

1559
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:17,520
trinitarians and burn them at this time?

1560
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,359
Speaker 6: Did you not hear what I said? So we have

1561
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:22,960
a person who's incapable of restating a hypothetical. So there

1562
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:23,159
we go.

1563
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 20: Okay, Well, if you don't know the answer.

1564
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 6: Can you restate the hypothetical? I don't think you're even

1565
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:29,439
capable of it.

1566
01:47:31,119 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 15: Actually, when when you started saying Bordhist spurn themselves, that's

1567
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,840
got nothing to do with what Michael.

1568
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 20: The position that Michael has survived his head or.

1569
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:43,319
Speaker 6: Why you don't understand how it's an example of the fact.

1570
01:47:43,159 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 20: That you've got an example nothing to do.

1571
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:46,279
Speaker 6: You're this dumb.

1572
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,119
Speaker 20: Seriously, people kill themselves all the time for nothing.

1573
01:47:53,239 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 6: This is unbelievable. So uh, that's his argument for area

1574
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:04,640
is that the smartest man in Europe, who was an

1575
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:08,920
upstanding character, was burned and put to death, and so

1576
01:48:09,119 --> 01:48:12,720
clearly they had something to hide. And you'll notice that

1577
01:48:13,119 --> 01:48:16,319
as I tried to work through the example, he couldn't.

1578
01:48:16,359 --> 01:48:19,439
He would not and could not restate it. It's call

1579
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:29,079
it is an example of why that's a fallacy. How

1580
01:48:29,119 --> 01:48:34,720
does it relate to Marco Savanash? It's an example. You

1581
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:39,800
understand how silly this is. You could give your life

1582
01:48:40,039 --> 01:48:46,119
for something false. But the Buddhists a badden themselves. It

1583
01:48:46,199 --> 01:48:49,640
doesn't matter how they're dying, dummy. The example is that

1584
01:48:50,319 --> 01:48:54,359
is to demonstrate why it's a fallacy. Does that prove Buddhism.

1585
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,960
Let's say a Buddhist gets burned by someone else. That

1586
01:48:58,039 --> 01:49:00,800
doesn't change the argument. That doesn't change examples. See this

1587
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:04,279
is why people are so slow. And you notice the

1588
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:08,399
like the heat and the like a surety like he

1589
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,359
wasn't even going to listen to why what I'm saying

1590
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:24,560
illustrates that this is a bad argument. Good grief, assistant. Okay,

1591
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:29,079
so somebody the smartest Buddhist in the world, someone burns

1592
01:49:29,159 --> 01:49:33,279
him to death. Does that prove Buddhism? You see how

1593
01:49:33,279 --> 01:49:44,520
stupid this is? Of course? Not what's up? Man, Muslim?

1594
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 11: Name?

1595
01:49:45,039 --> 01:49:45,399
Speaker 6: What's up?

1596
01:49:48,159 --> 01:49:48,319
Speaker 5: You got?

1597
01:49:48,479 --> 01:50:13,520
Speaker 6: I'm mute, my gosh, assistant. It's the eye box fantasy.

1598
01:50:15,239 --> 01:50:17,319
If you have been a wall of a if he's

1599
01:50:17,359 --> 01:50:24,119
not mousetup standing all of it, praves anti tearing, I

1600
01:50:24,319 --> 01:50:26,760
let the Muslim go on and then he leaves. What

1601
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:30,720
the heck? If you have been a wall of it,

1602
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:34,920
it's because you're throwing a hard that's ruth fuzzy peasant.

1603
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:38,760
Speaker 3: Yoh what's up, Jay?

1604
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:40,560
Speaker 6: What's on your mind?

1605
01:50:41,399 --> 01:50:42,239
Speaker 7: I'm just wondering.

1606
01:50:42,319 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 36: I'm a new inquired Orthodoxy and I'm wondering, like, what's

1607
01:50:45,039 --> 01:50:47,880
the best all around book that I can read about

1608
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:48,479
the Church.

1609
01:50:50,079 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 7: For your opinion?

1610
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,600
Speaker 6: I mean, are you wanting history? Are you wanting the theology?

1611
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 11: Or what?

1612
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:56,359
Speaker 3: Are you after theology?

1613
01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:00,319
Speaker 6: That'd be good. What's your background.

1614
01:51:01,399 --> 01:51:05,279
Speaker 3: Protestant? But I'm inquiring the Orthodox looking to join a brock.

1615
01:51:05,039 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 6: Car probably rock and sand something like that would be good,

1616
01:51:12,039 --> 01:51:22,279
mister Anderson, Mister Anderson, I smell your stink. I'm mute,

1617
01:51:22,319 --> 01:51:30,840
mister Anderson. Yeah, uh do that the court at the court,

1618
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,880
late night, at the court, sinking threes.

1619
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 7: I try.

1620
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,600
Speaker 6: I'll come out. I'll come show you how to sink threes.

1621
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,039
Oh yeah, I'll bust them in your face.

1622
01:51:43,119 --> 01:51:43,319
Speaker 4: Dude.

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, challenge accepted, bro.

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01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 7: Any time any place.

1625
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 6: Okay.

1626
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was calling.

1627
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:54,560
Speaker 20: Uh this is like a free for all.

1628
01:51:58,199 --> 01:52:00,680
Speaker 21: Any waiting for one of those, uh, because I wanted

1629
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:05,399
to taught to you. I can't remember what the dude's

1630
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,079
channel is, but I think he's a little bit of

1631
01:52:08,119 --> 01:52:09,640
a kook. But I saw I was watching one.

1632
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:14,640
Speaker 7: Of his videos about Lewis C. S. Lewis and how C. S.

1633
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:20,560
Speaker 21: Lewis is secretly like a post and you know, Golden Down,

1634
01:52:21,279 --> 01:52:23,199
and he was going on about how these best friends

1635
01:52:23,239 --> 01:52:26,560
with with the oddest inkling.

1636
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:30,520
Speaker 6: Who was Yeah, I'm aware of all that, but he

1637
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:34,800
wasn't in the Golden This is just like evangelical idiots

1638
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:38,119
love to string together these associations because you knew somebody

1639
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,159
like I know all kinds of idiots. It doesn't mean

1640
01:52:40,159 --> 01:52:41,159
I believe all the views.

1641
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. And I I was looking at this guy try.

1642
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 21: I mean, he left the Order of the Golden Dawn

1643
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,880
and was you know, granted he was angling or whatever,

1644
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:52,880
but I mean he wasn't like a lifelong member. It

1645
01:52:53,319 --> 01:52:56,199
didn't look but anyway, it was just tenuous at best.

1646
01:52:56,079 --> 01:52:59,039
Speaker 7: These associates, I thought, right, and so I wanted to

1647
01:52:59,159 --> 01:53:00,319
see you had.

1648
01:53:02,199 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's stupid. I've heard it for years.

1649
01:53:04,119 --> 01:53:06,600
I mean I read enough. I've read enough C. S.

1650
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:11,079
Lewis to recognize that overall he's has good intentions. He's

1651
01:53:11,079 --> 01:53:17,039
not a secret wizard a K. What's up? I mean,

1652
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:21,079
just read the Space Trilogy. It's masterpiece, especially Vuying Fighting

1653
01:53:21,159 --> 01:53:25,119
threes exposed the entire n w O agenda. So he

1654
01:53:25,119 --> 01:53:27,199
wouldn't be doing that if he was a secret wizard.

1655
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:29,039
What's up?

1656
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,239
Speaker 7: Is the other thing I hear is just hostile because

1657
01:53:34,239 --> 01:53:34,880
I can't hear him.

1658
01:53:35,039 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 6: There's no dude here.

1659
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 7: I think delayed.

1660
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 3: I just actually I had one question for you. I've

1661
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:42,560
been thinking about.

1662
01:53:42,359 --> 01:53:46,600
Speaker 14: Converting, but I want to ask your opinion on Sam

1663
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:48,560
Choman being a cook in the kitchen.

1664
01:53:51,239 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm i guess that's supposed to be funny

1665
01:53:54,079 --> 01:54:04,039
and you're supposed to Yeah, it's really funny. Vic zalmanis

1666
01:54:04,239 --> 01:54:07,199
five dollars. I read the first two chapters of Ustycia Day,

1667
01:54:07,239 --> 01:54:12,319
but Alstterro McGrath, my presubpositions on friends of dessication have

1668
01:54:12,399 --> 01:54:15,520
been obliterated. Yeah, it's wasn't taught in they're in the church,

1669
01:54:16,199 --> 01:54:22,039
so it should what's up?

1670
01:54:23,199 --> 01:54:24,560
Speaker 3: So I got two questions.

1671
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:30,159
Speaker 40: One is just simply, if I work for Buddhism and

1672
01:54:30,199 --> 01:54:33,159
get a risk for public decency, doesn't that make Buddhism true?

1673
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 6: It makes twerking virtuous and it's obvious. So yes, if

1674
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:43,199
if you twork for Buddhism, I would turn gay, it

1675
01:54:43,279 --> 01:54:47,279
would be a proof of the virtue of twerking, and

1676
01:54:47,359 --> 01:54:49,159
it would prove Buddhism all at once. So you should

1677
01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:50,720
do that sounds.

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01:54:50,439 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 7: Good to me.

1679
01:54:51,119 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 3: And then for my second question, my actual question is just.

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01:54:55,159 --> 01:54:58,199
Speaker 40: Is I've been thinking about how there is this idea

1681
01:54:58,319 --> 01:55:03,279
of like a national character and how certain nations and

1682
01:55:03,319 --> 01:55:07,800
certain cultures these seem to like lean towards specific concepts

1683
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:10,880
or ideas. I'm wondering in scripture, is there anything that

1684
01:55:11,039 --> 01:55:13,439
details the ultimate.

1685
01:55:13,159 --> 01:55:15,199
Speaker 7: Purpose of various nations.

1686
01:55:15,279 --> 01:55:18,199
Speaker 31: I'm sorry if that's a broad question, but does that

1687
01:55:18,359 --> 01:55:18,960
make sense.

1688
01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:19,479
Speaker 20: What I'm asking?

1689
01:55:20,159 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 6: Well, I think part of that story, the part of

1690
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:28,840
that question is answered in the story of Babbel. I mean,

1691
01:55:29,399 --> 01:55:33,000
the nations all wanted to be one in rebellion against God,

1692
01:55:33,279 --> 01:55:37,800
and the creation of the many nations is to keep

1693
01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:43,560
that one world, anti God order from forming. So it

1694
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:49,039
was a temporary means that God put into the created

1695
01:55:49,119 --> 01:55:53,359
order to kind of put a firewall, so to speak. There, Matthew,

1696
01:55:53,439 --> 01:55:56,399
But good question, Matthew site soyy.

1697
01:56:00,119 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 7: What that's what's been might I don't understand?

1698
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 6: Can you speak up? I can't hear you. You're mumbling?

1699
01:56:10,479 --> 01:56:11,720
Do you want to talk or not?

1700
01:56:13,359 --> 01:56:14,439
Speaker 2: Okay? M h.

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01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:29,960
Speaker 6: Matthew, are there? I heard some atheist mumbling, but I

1702
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:42,439
have no idea what he was saying. Tech Blue, I mute,

1703
01:56:45,039 --> 01:56:46,000
how do you hear me?

1704
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 20: So?

1705
01:56:49,279 --> 01:56:49,399
Speaker 7: Uh?

1706
01:56:50,359 --> 01:56:55,479
Speaker 14: My question is that I don't really understand the the

1707
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:59,000
engine of the Lord and why does the shike he

1708
01:56:59,079 --> 01:56:59,920
not doesn't make sense?

1709
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:02,319
Speaker 3: Can you expand on that?

1710
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:03,199
Speaker 6: Sure?

1711
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:09,399
Speaker 3: So, from what I've seen of.

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01:57:09,479 --> 01:57:14,319
Speaker 14: Your videos, you've made the point that if God is

1713
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:19,159
omnipresent and omnipotent, he can't enter into creation, right.

1714
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:23,159
Speaker 6: No, I was saying that if you believe in absolutely

1715
01:57:23,159 --> 01:57:27,479
mind simplicity and a neoplatonic definition of simplicity, God couldn't

1716
01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:28,359
enter into creation.

1717
01:57:30,119 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 14: So from I don't really know much about philosophy and everything.

1718
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:39,439
Can you explain to me why the Jewish stance on

1719
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:40,640
that doesn't make sense?

1720
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,319
Speaker 6: Did your stance on what theophany simplicity?

1721
01:57:46,439 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 3: Why, for example, God cannot manifest?

1722
01:57:51,479 --> 01:57:55,000
Speaker 6: Well, the Jewish stance is all over the place. I

1723
01:57:55,039 --> 01:57:58,680
don't think there is one Jewish dance, so I don't

1724
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:01,720
think that. Like if you look up Chicaina again at

1725
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:06,760
like Jewish Encyclopedia, it mentions the history of debates amongst

1726
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:10,920
rabbis as to what the Theophanes are. So there's been

1727
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:13,439
a long standing debate in the history of Judaism. And

1728
01:58:13,479 --> 01:58:16,479
I would say post Mimonides, because mimon Eides has a

1729
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:20,439
very strict definition of what divine simplicity is and unicity

1730
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:23,800
is that it seems like after that point it tends

1731
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:30,520
to be more uniformly angels or Metatron or something like

1732
01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:31,640
that that's manifesting.

1733
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 7: Okay, And.

1734
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 3: For example, on the Exodus twenty three, when the gods says.

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01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 14: To obey the Angel of the Lord. Why do you

1736
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:49,840
say that this is a theophany from me? What I

1737
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:53,920
see is just an angel that obeys God. I don't

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01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:54,720
see because.

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01:58:54,479 --> 01:58:57,439
Speaker 6: It's identified as the same one. It's the same one

1740
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,319
that spoke in the Burning Bush. And this ain't is

1741
01:59:00,359 --> 01:59:04,720
able to pardon transgressions. Only God can pardon sin. And

1742
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:07,359
it's also said that the that the name of Yahweh

1743
01:59:07,439 --> 01:59:09,479
is in this angel, So no, it's not just any

1744
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:10,199
old angel.

1745
01:59:11,239 --> 01:59:14,239
Speaker 14: But isn't it just like when he speaks, just he's

1746
01:59:14,359 --> 01:59:18,760
just reporting what God says like a messenger.

1747
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,439
Speaker 6: It doesn't say that it says that his name is

1748
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:23,720
in the Father is saying I put my name in

1749
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:27,800
him and he can remit sins. So only God can

1750
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:30,800
forgive sense. Hmm cute?

1751
01:59:31,399 --> 01:59:35,199
Speaker 3: And can you confirm what the assump human said?

1752
01:59:35,279 --> 01:59:38,399
Speaker 14: He said that the Angel of the Word doesn't speak

1753
01:59:38,439 --> 01:59:40,239
the same as the other angels?

1754
01:59:40,479 --> 01:59:41,039
Speaker 7: Is that right?

1755
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 6: I don't know what Sam means when he says doesn't

1756
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:48,119
speak the same? Does he mean like that it's explained

1757
01:59:48,239 --> 01:59:50,279
that he calls himself the vine at times. Is that

1758
01:59:50,319 --> 01:59:51,199
I don't know what he means?

1759
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:57,439
Speaker 3: Yes, something like that, like Gabriel or Michael, don't say that.

1760
01:59:58,319 --> 02:00:00,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would. I would say that when we you see,

1761
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:05,000
you know, for example, Gabriel comes to Daniel, he does

1762
02:00:05,079 --> 02:00:06,119
not speak in this way.

1763
02:00:07,439 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 3: M all right, all right, And my last question, if

1764
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:11,800
you don't mind, is that.

1765
02:00:13,279 --> 02:00:17,000
Speaker 14: Again on the same subject that most colors I think

1766
02:00:17,119 --> 02:00:21,319
the I agree upon that the fact is that it

1767
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:26,720
was added later, the angel part, because at the beginning

1768
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:30,399
it was just the God interacting directly with.

1769
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 3: Creation. But if that's true, it doesn't it undermind the Trinity.

1770
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 6: Does what on her mind?

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02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 3: Attorney, if the angel part was added, it wasn't, No,

1772
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:47,079
because the.

1773
02:00:47,399 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 6: Word angel just means messenger, So it can be the

1774
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,479
messenger of the Covenant that we think is Jesus. It

1775
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:55,720
can be a messenger that's a human being, or it

1776
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:59,119
can be a created angelic messenger. So there's nothing about

1777
02:00:59,119 --> 02:01:02,359
the word angel that necessarily means Michael or Gabriel.

1778
02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:03,760
Speaker 7: I know.

1779
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:09,279
Speaker 14: But like I said, the scholars I read they say

1780
02:01:09,359 --> 02:01:12,199
that at first it was just God speaking.

1781
02:01:12,399 --> 02:01:15,399
Speaker 3: There wasn't the angel part. It was added later.

1782
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 6: So I don't know what you mean. Are you talking

1783
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:22,920
about the documentary hypothesis that, like certain authors of Genesis thought,

1784
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:25,199
it was only God speaking, and then there's another set

1785
02:01:25,239 --> 02:01:28,640
of authors that say that it's alohem, that it's plural,

1786
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:32,840
and then later authors use angel I don't understand what argument.

1787
02:01:34,079 --> 02:01:39,039
Speaker 14: My agreement is that they say that when Judaism evolved

1788
02:01:39,279 --> 02:01:41,960
from politicism to nutism and then monetarism.

1789
02:01:42,039 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 6: Okay, well we don't believe that. So you're reading scholars

1790
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:49,039
that have atheist presuppositions. We don't believe that. So we

1791
02:01:49,279 --> 02:01:52,760
believe and read the text from the presupposition of inspiration

1792
02:01:53,079 --> 02:01:57,479
that the texts are unified and uniform in their theological message.

1793
02:01:59,359 --> 02:02:05,560
Speaker 14: But I think if there's a case that it wasn't

1794
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:09,319
truly monetaristic, like the scholar says, it's no.

1795
02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:11,920
Speaker 6: But see that's an again, this is an assumption of

1796
02:02:12,039 --> 02:02:14,880
what monotheism means. Do you know that monotheism is a

1797
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:17,319
term that doesn't come about until the sixteen hundreds? There

1798
02:02:17,399 --> 02:02:21,720
isn't Yeah, so what does monotheism mean? Where do we

1799
02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:24,399
derive this idea? And how do we know? Well, it

1800
02:02:24,479 --> 02:02:26,920
doesn't come from medieval rabbis, It doesn't come from medieval

1801
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:30,399
Muslim scholars unless we just assume their position. So how

1802
02:02:30,439 --> 02:02:32,439
do we know what quote monotheism is?

1803
02:02:34,479 --> 02:02:35,359
Speaker 20: I guess by.

1804
02:02:37,119 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 6: It's not is it self evident? It's just self evident.

1805
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:41,720
Speaker 3: What that means it's one good?

1806
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, But I mean a Christian can have an account

1807
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,079
of that, a Muslim can have an account of that.

1808
02:02:47,279 --> 02:02:49,439
You can have an account of that. So just saying

1809
02:02:49,479 --> 02:02:52,119
that it means one God doesn't really solve the issue.

1810
02:02:52,279 --> 02:02:55,039
That's why there's you know, different models.

1811
02:02:56,960 --> 02:03:02,039
Speaker 14: Yes, yes, so that's why you say that, for example,

1812
02:03:02,199 --> 02:03:06,479
the Muslim doesn't have a pure monetistic Is that also

1813
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:06,880
a reason?

1814
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:11,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, depending upon which school of Islam or which akda,

1815
02:03:12,199 --> 02:03:15,359
depends on how they're going to try to explain one

1816
02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:19,279
and many in God. So like a Salafi right AUTHORI like,

1817
02:03:19,319 --> 02:03:24,039
they're going to have this idea that Allah's attributes his speech,

1818
02:03:24,239 --> 02:03:28,720
his shin, they're all really distinct from Allah. Okay, Well,

1819
02:03:29,039 --> 02:03:32,680
explain how there's real distinctions in a law if you

1820
02:03:33,119 --> 02:03:38,000
don't believe those things are self existent. So that's why

1821
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:40,000
I bring up that argument with Muslims all the time.

1822
02:03:40,119 --> 02:03:42,920
Depending upon which school it is, other schools of Islam

1823
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:46,640
will say, no, the the distinctions are you know, metaphorical,

1824
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:49,039
there's no real shin, et cetera.

1825
02:03:50,359 --> 02:03:52,840
Speaker 14: All right, And I know, just I just said it

1826
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:56,000
was my last question, but I just thought of two others.

1827
02:03:56,039 --> 02:03:58,399
If you don't mind, or you want to take someone else.

1828
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:01,119
Speaker 6: Go ahead, I'll try to do it quick. Let's do

1829
02:04:01,199 --> 02:04:02,000
one more and then when we move on.

1830
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:09,319
Speaker 3: Okay, So I just thought about atonements and how it works.

1831
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:13,479
Speaker 14: I don't understand the Christian way of thinking because and

1832
02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:16,239
the Old Testament from whatever.

1833
02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 3: It and what the Robbis told me is that these

1834
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:23,279
sacrifices are just for unintentional sins.

1835
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:26,399
Speaker 14: And the way Jesus was killed, it wasn't in a

1836
02:04:26,479 --> 02:04:30,880
cootier way anyway, So it doesn't work like that. I

1837
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:34,439
don't understand how you can think that someone is then

1838
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:36,840
for a sens of others, even if he was God,

1839
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:38,079
or even if it was perfect.

1840
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:42,399
Speaker 3: It just God doesn't follow his own rules for that.

1841
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:45,560
And I don't understand why Christians think that way.

1842
02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:49,680
Speaker 6: Well, we don't think that it was primarily a sacrifice

1843
02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:54,319
to appease a bloodthirsty God. We think that it was

1844
02:04:54,359 --> 02:04:57,279
an act of love for the son of Man or

1845
02:04:57,319 --> 02:04:59,000
for the human, for the son of God to enter

1846
02:04:59,039 --> 02:05:02,960
into human nature, heal the destruction of the nature that

1847
02:05:03,079 --> 02:05:07,279
Adam had caused. So it's not primarily a bloody sacrifice

1848
02:05:07,319 --> 02:05:10,000
to avengeful deity or something like that like Pagan's think.

1849
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:14,760
But even Rabbinical tradition has this notion of righteous men

1850
02:05:15,439 --> 02:05:17,920
covering the sins of others and dying for others. My

1851
02:05:18,079 --> 02:05:21,720
friend k Me who's a Messianic Jew, he wrote a

1852
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:26,439
book on early Rabbinic ideas and debates about Jesus, and

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he talks about different places in there where no actually

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rabbis did believe that the Messiah would come, that he

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would perhaps even atone for the sins of others, and

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even Judaism believes in two different messiahs. To try to

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grapple with these texts that sometimes talk about the Messiah

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undergoing death, so it's not an action that I don't

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know what you meant by that death wasn't even kosher.

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Speaker 14: I mean, he wasn't the limb that was sacrificed and

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the temple needed to be I don't know if you

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ordered English king, it was supposed to be clean.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, when the Gospel of John cites those passages,

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it talks about him being morally pure and perfect. So

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we believe all that cleanliness stuff ultimately has to do

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with moral cleanliness, not ritual cleanliness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he wasn't killed by the priest. He was

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killed by the Romans.

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Speaker 6: Now, he was killed by a conglomeration of both. The

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priests conspired to hand him over to the Romans to

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be killed.

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Speaker 20: They ended it over.

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Speaker 3: But they didn't do what kind of thing the prayers?

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He didn't do that.

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Speaker 6: Well, he did the prayers because we think Christ is

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the ultimate high priest. I think of your questions. But

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Christ did the prayers on the cross when he prayed

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Psalm twenty three, right me, Palm twenty two. So the

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prayers were done. They were done by the true high priests,

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according to Hebrews seven, who was Christ himself. No, it

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doesn't mean that the you know, uh and an eye

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as Archiaphas has to literally come and do the prayers

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over Jesus as the sacrifice. Anyway, A sorry, but good questions, Kay,

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go ahead, hello ja hey, yeah jes one.

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Speaker 3: A two questions for you.

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Speaker 5: One is, uh, do you agree that all that you

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have now there's a trinity and all this selfie, all

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this concept of God, it is just a middle concept,

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the human construct.

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Speaker 3: In order to understand.

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Speaker 5: God from textual evidence or logic. Oh h mass transmitted information. Right,

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So basically it is human construct in their mind.

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Speaker 3: To understand God, which in later.

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Speaker 5: There's a series of human error in it, right, because

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there's a limit into our sense and logic and et cetera.

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Speaker 3: R So basically, on this how do we do how

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do we decide the truth?

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Speaker 34: Which is the truth?

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Speaker 5: And then the second question is the second question is

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with regard to your debt with Muslim Latin the other day,

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right when it's actually your your argument against him. That's

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all the two questions.

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Speaker 6: Thanks, I apologize, man, I didn't understand either question. I mean,

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I'm sorry. So the first question was you said mentioned

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Salafi and then conceptions and human conceptual creations. I just

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I just didn't understand the question. And what was my

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argument against Muslim Lantern? I mean, I gave a few arguments.

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One was that his analogies using his shirt and attributes

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doesn't work because all is nothing like creatures, so the

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relationship of a shirt to its parts is not going

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to work to explain all in his attributes in their relationship.

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I also critique the notion of whether or not the

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attributes are self existent or whether they exist only in

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a law, and that goes back to ancient debates within Islam.

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So those were some of the arguments I gave Matt.

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Did you want to try again? What's up, Matt? Okay whatever.

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I'm getting pretty tired, so I think we're gonna call

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it a night. Let's see we've got more super tests.

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one dollars. What's the reconciliation of Kane finding his wife?

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Did Avenue you have other children? I think we're supposed

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to assume that, Yeah, Josh five dollars. I grew up

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in Protestantism. My wife and I is as well Protestant.

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She's very Protestant. How should I talk to her about Orthodoxy?

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Maybe try to get her to read something or watch

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the documentary, like the Icon documentary, something like that to

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ease her into it. Probably not going to work to

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debate divine comedy. Ten dollars. I've been watching your stuff.

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I've noticed that American fundamentalism is the most gnostic of

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all the Protestant heresy is correct. It is hostile to art, history, music,

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and civilization. They just huddle in their strip malls. Uh yeah,

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and that's ultimately why they kind of end up having

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a problem with the incarnation. So absolutely, Widows ten dollars,

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I knew Orthodoxy from Calvinism. I have questions concerned the

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different in Orthodox churches, Russian, Greek, et cetera. What would

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you suggest, if any and why, I mean, jurisdictions is

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a whole other bag. I wouldn't worry about that if

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you need to, Orthodoxy would just focus on whatever is

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the best church near you and don't worry about the

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jurisdictional issues. So that's something you can study down the

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road on your own. But what else