Speaker 1: Tuck up, back.
Speaker 2: Back back.
Speaker 1: O to go to Boomer, the cook Book of.
Speaker 3: Have a.
Speaker 2: The can't.
Speaker 4: Tamer the boo the who the woful poo can't turn
the firm had.
Speaker 2: The fat.
Speaker 3: The the.
Speaker 4: Can't ha ha ha.
Speaker 5: Heard who can't?
Speaker 6: What's up? Sometimes I just want to go.
Speaker 7: And start waiting for you in Monopoly g.
Speaker 6: And just do that. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes
that no money, I don't just feel it, don't feel it,
don't feel it with me.
Speaker 8: It's just on random instrumentals, no copyright shout out to
that instrumental free no copyright songs. What y'all feeling tonight?
I don't even know what's.
Speaker 6: Coming y'all Like that freestyle in the first five minutes.
Y'all know what happens when I feel it. When I
feel it, the artistic expressions explode from me. Is that
monkey pox song? No gates? And I don't know if
this give I didn't more of a be than that.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, music is wrong. So it's a night baby, I'm
gonna sing to you.
Speaker 9: Music gives a rah. Music is not legal. Your love
is illegal like harp music. I love you like I
love that pir rab.
Speaker 10: Rab Ladies, just like I love all those ladies. Girl,
that's the same thing I love. I have for you,
the same as a herald, because our.
Speaker 2: Love is harang.
Speaker 6: Like music, and like this song. That's why I dedicated
to you, girl. Music is horrah. Music is hi hi yah.
Speaker 10: Got me feeling so hot around right now, like logic,
I love it is harang like music.
Speaker 6: Music is Our love is also ha ha rah. But
some of those meats are how loud?
Speaker 7: How loud?
Speaker 6: Oh man, I thought the song was over.
Speaker 10: I love it's like sausage. It's hello, but also haram.
At the same time, music is.
Speaker 6: U ramha How you like that that one? That's a
harang core. It's getting ridiculous up in here. Maybe your
love is something like bacon aram, but the love were making.
Speaker 11: M I'm cooking, Daniel Piking jew bacon. I'm cooking, Daniel Peek,
got you bacon. I'm cooking Daniel Peek, got you bacon,
and the sausage you will frying to doubled up in
a pan Horam, Hello across this American land.
Speaker 7: H m hm.
Speaker 6: Sam Simon tripping on my room. A little bit of
mushrooms in with the sausage and the bacon. That's the
kind of meal I'm making. Mm hmmm, A little bit
of muslum lantern gonna.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna put out that wick muslum candles snuffed out, m.
Speaker 7: R I P.
Speaker 6: Sausage bacon.
Speaker 3: You and me.
Speaker 6: Inter fairus wheel.
Speaker 12: We're three Soudi princess and twenty five Saudi princesses. Our
while we always hearing about Saudi princess I ain't never
heard nothing about no Saudi princesses.
Speaker 6: I'm starting to think something.
Speaker 12: It's a weird little conspiracy we had him Saudi little princesses.
I'm gonna say, Hi, girls, how y'all doing? I might
be hallal that you and my haram.
Speaker 6: That's a harem it. For those that don't know.
Speaker 12: Saudi little princess, call me prince you my Saudi little
princess head.
Speaker 6: That kind of sounded like prince assualist. That's why that's
why I went down that road. You know what I'm
saying that was that one was kind of fun. I
like that one. I was feeling that one. I was
feeling there, I was feeling it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, That's what I'm getting at. I don't think them
Soliday princess like them, Saladay princess here?
Speaker 6: What's up? How y'all doing? It's just some ran I
have no idea what song's coming. I'm just gonna feel it.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: What's up? If y'all want to call in tonight when
I open it up, you can't if you dare album
winch We got like five albums. One of the songs
you mean album number five? When that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That only.
Speaker 13: That's on y'all's mind tonight, y'all want to see with me?
Shout out to the person I didn't know the christ
on them.
Speaker 12: We gonna open it up. We gonna master chef and
cook these foods. Got our color, every degree and philosophy.
Speaker 6: If don need work, got ready to cook master chef.
I'm cooking up organic meals with organic like us. You
must have lost this channel to by the way, because
I noticed that he has a new channel with not
many followers. Where's maybe he made multiple channels?
Speaker 2: Let's see, Oh you got a skin Caroline.
Speaker 6: Or get it like a skin Caroline Jerkins that bath
and beyond skin Carol, where's they is?
Speaker 4: Is?
Speaker 6: Really?
Speaker 14: Is there?
Speaker 15: Really?
Speaker 6: Is there really a thing going on? Is there really
a crucible.
Speaker 2: Coastable?
Speaker 6: Alright? What what do you all mean to sing about?
Y'all tell me what you sing about. We're gonna open
up door.
Speaker 2: Worrkna catch your.
Speaker 6: Pennies in a twisted tis on. We gonna open up
this thing and cook something ooos. We serving up.
Speaker 12: Human and he is can up outside eye put up
bed in sausage juice like.
Speaker 6: The hag on pickle juice sauce. Its fingers, lady fingers,
little betty, leady fingers. What do you want me to
think about thinking about? We got them fot hot?
Speaker 2: He dies?
Speaker 6: It's windy up in here?
Speaker 12: Who turned on a stinky fan? That's just in had this?
It ain't no such thing as a stinky fan.
Speaker 6: That's just then fun How I did his.
Speaker 11: Yo?
Speaker 6: There's a fan that not emacally stinks. It's calling ass.
And if the hoose I win, and my general roldery
she our lives also got a sin, a left shen
and a right shen.
Speaker 12: And two right hands. It's not more perfect than not
having two right hands and seven.
Speaker 6: Toes, because seven toes we all know it's more perfect
then for told whose everybody know who.
Speaker 12: I'm singing about that far I dido doo. I got
that bubba gut because I ate that high rom sauce
heads with my forty four rise in my heart.
Speaker 6: Ram that's also how low but also how ram. There
we go. Damn, y'all are telling that Billy Corson Billy.
Course we're missing about Billy Corson.
Speaker 1: D shit.
Speaker 16: We got a space speer head that flow around the
universe and trying to give them white yakoops come afterwards
and they put us in chains salacted change. But then
we opened up a space porter. The body hold up
the universe. Gnostic first traverse through universe through a booty
with homewarps on. It's just like Marto brothers put us
through universe. Billy Corson, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know where that was from. Person got that
nasty with.
Speaker 16: Flying around the universe, you know, tricked out the pyramid pyramids,
got ribs, which don't even make sense because.
Speaker 7: It's flying around the universe.
Speaker 6: It doesn't r want doesn't have ribs. I need something
to sing about them. I don't. I don't feel much
for Billy Corson.
Speaker 10: So tell me something to sing about the songs Yemen.
Speaker 6: I don't see, I don't I got no song.
Speaker 12: That space piramid tricked out, it's got dripped all over it,
it's got ramp and it's got so with us down
in Pharaoh's chain, I can thuf all around in your universe.
Speaker 6: He was God's in. She had aens and piers.
Speaker 12: And she has.
Speaker 6: I like that one. Billy Carson fly flying around the
universe and that tricked out pyramid. Doesn't Billy Carson believe
that he's not a I mean, we might as well
just call him you cool? Yeah, could fly flying around
the universe and that tricked out pyramid trying to show
off against the pope. I like that. I like that,
yeah cool, not cool.
Speaker 17: Billy Carson right shotgun, he got him checked out and pram.
Speaker 18: Flying all around his garlac dick spread yaku ben behdy
car Son.
Speaker 6: It's a car son, except that the space car I
called the pyramid. We was building up at landing us
since she.
Speaker 17: Y'all thought we was building up ship at left up,
but it was Atlantis.
Speaker 6: Don't this this I'm talking about? Alenis m y'all cool?
Speaker 12: That pleasant at Lynis and it was full of OBUs
booty queens.
Speaker 6: We foll wrote the good worse because we was kings.
But of course run a shot up. We your cool
in a trick to our pail. Run in my head.
Speaker 12: I got a space perier mad with rims. Yeah, don't
even make sense because it don't ride. It just flies
around in lands vertically, which is bad ass. And the
white people trying to keep a style.
Speaker 18: But they can't keep for style. Flying around in space
with y'all cool feeling to my left and.
Speaker 19: Right, some boob.
Speaker 6: We got a pair of men full of through your
phone that's hose space holes.
Speaker 12: Then it cassing flying around with y'all cools. You try
to pull me just like this, like it was a
big ship rotates the mainsail. I don't even know what
that means, but it sounds like I'm steering some big
We was caings and stuff.
Speaker 7: He yeah, ben it.
Speaker 6: Casting fly around and tricked up hearing me well, y'all coop,
yeah like that. That was pretty fun for just off
the cuff. I can't just do these debates crazy, it's
what's going on. We gotta have fun. We can't just
have debates without having fun. So we was we was
canes and she incited me.
Speaker 20: It's my moderate severere all sort of Collie song.
Speaker 3: It wasn't always this.
Speaker 6: Path in there.
Speaker 12: I employ y'all cool, yeah cool, I said, yeah cool, yeah,
ha ha cool.
Speaker 6: Doing how wrong things with my hood rat friends? Ten
out of ten? Thank you. We might have to clip that.
I think it would clip that really car or some song.
Speaker 21: I like that one right there.
Speaker 6: That's that your cool. That's the Ya cool mix. Cran's
cool making its way around the world. You have anyway? Wait,
let me just sing about right now. Take you by
the super chats. I'm crad Mill Gates, Monkey by something
milk Gates, Vana Color Humber. That's my two ways hold
up to your cool coffins, y'all. Like my seventy two
Virgins Saudi Princess mix. We always sing about Kamala. I
can sing about Kamala, sing about the Celtic languages, an
R and B song about Celtic languages, an R and
B A song about the Nordic god. Oh then.
Speaker 22: What you don't hen oh damn oh damn oh damn
oh damn oh dear.
Speaker 7: What you do?
Speaker 6: Who were good? How that don't work? Go ah fun?
Don't want me to shut up and open it up. Now,
shut up, shut up, open it up. How am I
supposed to do that when I'm feeling it? M hm.
Speaker 2: Hm is it music?
Speaker 6: Two hours? It sound good?
Speaker 7: Bring?
Speaker 6: Let me think about Oh Damn, oh Dad, dang lordy
God's blue Eyes than Kyrie?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Does that work? Key on the low
key oh me?
Speaker 6: I don't know. I feel like it doesn't work with
rap as good if it does when I'm when I'm
saying I sing much better than I round.
Speaker 23: We all know that, right right, right, right right, we
all know, we all know I sang better than I rap.
Speaker 6: That's a smooth sister beat right here? I really good?
Would I feel a smooth system? Be an R and
B song about David Bradshaw just mixing up totally.
Speaker 24: Insane things that have no connection whatsoever. Sing about the
Nordy guys versus the back guy.
Speaker 6: Old you want a piece of ya? Could ohd and
want to fight ya? Cool A?
Speaker 23: No, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I can't feel it this song to s here we go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel it?
Speaker 6: Just love.
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 6: You want me to sing about Sam Shimo? Y'all want
me to sing about who else? Who else is out here?
Sneak sneak o versus.
Speaker 2: Odie Towers.
Speaker 6: Sing about why Mom, why.
Speaker 7: Why?
Speaker 6: Mom's a good one. Oh, here we go, h oh
my mom's park game.
Speaker 3: My.
Speaker 6: I like how this one starts.
Speaker 2: I can feel this one.
Speaker 6: It's a wind mom, beg right here. Fazia short nay
Phronsie shark nay Phronsie short Nay. I'm straight, I'm gay,
Fasia shard nay box wine, who's gay? I don't know everything?
Speaker 20: You like that?
Speaker 6: A lot of these are too slow, and you type
in three dark this is oh, that's every now, and
then you get some this is gold, dude. But it's
like one in a hundred of these, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 7: First sour, we might have to move on.
Speaker 6: And then there's because I don't I want to run
all y'all off. I can't find a good song. You do,
I'm singing? You do your moo U mute them buttons
on your circle. I bet these are split out of
an AI machine. What do you want to bet there's
an AI machine that just spits these out all the same.
Speaker 2: Buly find a mom?
Speaker 6: Why you wind mom?
Speaker 7: You're a wine mom.
Speaker 19: He's a Francia and Shardon Knay and another national strawberry flavor.
Speaker 24: Things I can't think of?
Speaker 6: Wine mom? You know a wine mom?
Speaker 7: Why wind and mom?
Speaker 6: You know wine?
Speaker 7: Mamm I'm gonna blake the refast.
Speaker 19: You're gonna make your breakfast and no more than could
shoot I say the wine mom finding mom?
Speaker 6: Why you wind it?
Speaker 2: Mom? You wine mom?
Speaker 19: You not boxes and boxes in storage, a whole storage
ship on a box of wine.
Speaker 6: Because you a wine Why you wind the moll?
Speaker 19: Shardon Knay and Pania and another pink flavor it's called
peak player.
Speaker 7: Let me have a little bit.
Speaker 6: Of that pink flabor girl, wine mom?
Speaker 25: Do mom?
Speaker 19: White whining Mom, you're a single mom?
Speaker 6: Why you got it?
Speaker 19: You good line to synic and he was a king
cool and cigarettes and a little biggy puppet dog that's actually.
Speaker 6: Thought. I was starting to feel it.
Speaker 19: You got a monny dog that's a deathly dog. You
want you a dog, mom, because you want a single mom?
And then caper day and wine mom, all wrapped up
all in one. You a wine mom splits a poetry
on a Twitter space port wine you are poorly wine mom.
Penna Grigio, it's pronounced Peter Grego.
Speaker 6: You correct me and show me how smart you are
because you are sophisticated, single white mom. I don't know
that one could have been. That one could have been,
might have thought about you a wine mom, whitey whining mom.
You got boxed wine. I'm a wiser. My whole story
ship full of box wine.
Speaker 19: You got Frankie sharp knite people, Richio coming out wi wine.
Speaker 7: You were dog mom and a simple mom.
Speaker 2: You got our mind a.
Speaker 6: Sister, you got it. I keep going blind. What's that
man dogging? But everybody, all these remands say, definitely dog.
We got a dog in these pains. It's a pit
my mom. You can make a wine boss.
Speaker 16: You're mama to a boy and a pit bull. You
a wine mom, but you a wine mother. I'm a
tyrannical raider. I remind you of your ex to put
it in your place.
Speaker 26: She won't be a mom to hot the civic falter king,
cool sugar ress taptoo of a weird design on your
tas and your.
Speaker 7: Arms and your neck and a little spider on your knack.
Speaker 6: You are wine mama and a single mom and a
dog mom.
Speaker 27: To a boom to eat babies. Better man that some
babies you're gonna eat the babies in the neighborhood.
Speaker 6: You're a single.
Speaker 19: Mama and you are wine mom, white wine and mama,
but you are wine mom, box wine, left, right, left, right, box.
Speaker 16: Wine, Pino grigio and that weird paint flavor to tastes
of sugar.
Speaker 6: I was it's fun. But what why mom?
Speaker 2: Rap?
Speaker 6: Okay, that's a single one. What do you mean a
rap about? Now? Got no gotta ultimate that you traded
for Placific and.
Speaker 25: A grand An and a Chrysler and a Pontiac in
a rope because you totaled it while your wine mom, I.
Speaker 6: Got fifteen straining waters on fifteen different brothers. Think about Taka.
I met a girl, all right, I met a girl
named Tekiya. She would lye left and right. That do
be sounded like a black girl name, though, don't I Tekiya.
I'm not feelings little gun in Tequia. But she was
lying all the time.
Speaker 28: Tequilla, Taquilla, Tequilla. I went to high school with a
black girl named Shaquillah. What your name was, Takilla?
Speaker 6: We met at the Lodga matt when you were doing
the lobby. What do you say about that? That game was?
Speaker 12: What I spat at the London Matt. I told you
my name was Matt. You said we could go out,
we canna have fun.
Speaker 6: I bought you some fun. Your hons that was nasty
and stink.
Speaker 12: Your girl was named Santishwa Contiqua, and they also came
on the data as a chaperone.
Speaker 6: I said, no, no, no, Teqia, what are you doing.
Speaker 17: Listen to me, Tekia, You're a liar. It been tike y'ah.
Tequilla was a liar deceive up.
Speaker 6: We was at the Launchrometh.
Speaker 12: You were talking about doing all of that George prudence
and that thick and all of that legalistic shit.
Speaker 6: I said, are you keeping roots? And you said no.
I worked for Ally. I said, the allies are the axis.
You said no Ally. I said what you said?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I realized you was a mus from Sudare Princess,
the last one.
Speaker 17: I fell in love with you, Takiyah, But then I
learned you don't tell the truth.
Speaker 6: Good Turkey.
Speaker 2: I mean, like.
Speaker 6: The key us love of me, love me the londer
that to.
Speaker 2: When softness and freshness matter, you like that one your laundry.
Speaker 6: You didn't think I was gonna make a song about
a girl named Tekiya? Did you boy sounded like a
sister's name. Though, listen, we don't have to only do
we can We can also do songs about other things.
Sing about boomers. I did a boom song in the past.
Speaker 4: I'm not like two songs.
Speaker 6: Bloomers Songscooters. It's gotta be the right song. Boomer scooter
can make Boomer scooters. Most of these songs song that's
that's a problem. It's not me, it's these songs. Did
y'all ever hear my Jimmy Buffett song? That was a song.
Speaker 29: Booma's got them mont keep bucks. Booma's got them keep bucks.
Booma's got them keep bucks singing it's going to the
reggae reggae Reggae's song about the I like except when
you pull up the friend.
Speaker 6: The free reggae songs they're even worse. They're they're worse
than the the other. The free reggae are the worst.
Speaker 30: Booma's got the moon keep bucks, the gates in the Humma.
It's the monkey pock Sommer. Boomer's got the monkey bucks
monkey bucks. The Boomers got the monkey bucks. The woman's
got the monkey bucks. Got to get the new Stabby
were your grandma Abbey. It's a not bad Boomer's got
the monkey bucks to get the new Stabby.
Speaker 6: For your drama. Abby. Boomers got the monkey bucks. It
gets in the armor, monkey back somber.
Speaker 2: Look at that Boomer clad.
Speaker 7: It's the ba.
Speaker 29: Booma clad Boomba clad. It's the Booma blood clot Boomer clad,
it's the Baba blood plot Bill gets in the armor.
Now's the monkey.
Speaker 6: Pox on mon. Boom Must got the monkey bus bo
Must got the monkey box. That one was not bad.
That could have gone swer.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know what that is but a.
Speaker 6: Monkey pomp. What else is there to do? There's nothing
else to do? Where y'all at Boomer boomer clot, you
thought it was a boom buck lot boot. Oh, what
do you'll want to talk about? What do y'all want
to do? What do y'all feel?
Speaker 2: It's getting worse.
Speaker 6: They're getting worse and worse already. If something depends right now,
they're getting worse and worse and worse. What the heck?
Let's try the dark? No Oh, I you know how
I feel. I got the greatest hit ever was I
did a Playboy CARDI type beat and that pulled up
some of the best stuff. That, ain't it?
Speaker 7: No, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm about to give up. Y'all ready to open it up.
I'm about sunged out. It's a monkey Pocks summer Bill
Gates in a hummer. It's time to open it up. Anyway.
It's nine thirty, so I sat the debate time for
nine thirty. All right, it's time to debate. I don't
even know why I put I thought maybe we watched tiktoks,
just depending on how I felt, I guess not. But
it's good timing. Jade Iris six minutes past the time
of his start, and he's singing.
Speaker 2: Blue.
Speaker 28: Here we go.
Speaker 3: Up.
Speaker 6: Where's the where's the sounds at? It's the monkey Pok
Summer Bill Gates in a hummer. It's the Monkey Park
Summer Bill Gates in a hummer. Y'all thought it was
Timberlake for a second. With the way I was busting
out them beat boxing beats. You were like, it's this
white boy Timberlake?
Speaker 2: What going on?
Speaker 6: Dirty? Dirty, dirty pop? You can't stop? What's to deal
with this?
Speaker 7: Pop?
Speaker 14: Lot?
Speaker 6: And win's it? Gun fade out? All right? We got
people filling out the room. We're gonna open it up.
We're gonna have to change our tone and enough laughing, enough,
enough goofiness, It's time to open it up. I guess
it's kind of open. You can talk about whatever you want.
If you want to talk about Oasis, you can. If
you want to talk about comedians, we can. Who's funny?
Who's not? A lot of people disagree with my list
of comedians. They said, where was Tim Dillon on your list?
Where was Shane McGillis, Where was whoever? I know it's
Shane Gillis. I'm just being silly. Well, the list of
the comedians that I listed are the ones that I've
all talked to or interviewed. That's why I listened them,
because I know they're legit. There are plenty of other
people out there that are funny. There's also plenty of
comedians that I've never heard of. So people were like,
what didn't you list so and so? Because I ain't
never heard of so and so. I can't just listen
to everybody else's material. I'm a content creator. I don't
know if you've heard of that, but there's not that
many of us out there. It's an elite club called
content creators on the Internet and as a content creator,
a provider of consumable information for you. I don't have
time to listen to everyone else who is a so
called content creator. Anyway, we got people piling in. The
topics are Islam because all this is in Protestantism. But
for a one time, unique, limited offer, I will expand
it to other topics because it's late at night and
we're just having fun. So you can bring up other
topics that you want to bring up within the terms
of service. The toss as they say, you can bring
those things up if you want to.
Speaker 10: But but.
Speaker 6: There is no butt. Luca, my name is Luca. Not
a Susann Vegas song. We're straight up gen x in here.
My name is Luca.
Speaker 7: I'm a big Lucas Donts fan.
Speaker 6: Who that's what it is.
Speaker 7: A Luca doncis. He's a he's a basketball player.
Speaker 31: He plays in the NBA.
Speaker 6: You're a sportshole man. You like sports?
Speaker 15: Hole?
Speaker 7: Hey, I like sports.
Speaker 3: I like sports.
Speaker 20: So my main question is so i've I'm a.
Speaker 32: Cradle Catholic, you know, grew up Catholic, fell away from
it a few years ago, got into Protestantism because my
dad's a Catholic, my mom's a Protestant, and now I'm
looking to Eastern Orthodox.
Speaker 7: So'm I just had a question.
Speaker 31: So, and you brought this up before, to know you.
Speaker 7: Were once a Catholic.
Speaker 32: How do you how do you se on to a
Catholic college too? How do you get away from like
the Catholic like moral black and white sort of thing
where it's just like pure legalism, Like, how do you
get into the mindset of a humanism?
Speaker 6: Wellcumunism is not what you're talking about. Cumunism is the
idea that all the religions need to dialogue together to
find the true religion.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry I use the wrong word there.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna e colonomia or is it a.
Speaker 7: It's some Uh, it's uh, well, I.
Speaker 6: Mean I think I think you're talking about legalism, right, Yeah,
I'm talking about like, yeah, like legalism.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, I think over time it takes, you know, the
Orthodoxy do it takes time to heal from the baggage
that we bring into it. I know it took me
a long time to take me many years to get
over the hardcore Tomism and stuff that I was really
obsessed with. So that just is going to come in time.
You're going to need the ability to work through a
lot of issues with your spiritual father, that kind of stuff.
It's probably gonna take several years, especially if you're raised
Roman Catholic and you switch to Orthodoxy. I think a
lot of Roman Catholics think from the outside that Orthodoxy
is not that different because of you know, several things
in common, but when it comes to the actual practice
and all that, it's very different. So really that just
comes with time, I think.
Speaker 32: And then one more question, why doesn't Orthodoxy recognize them
Francis of a CC as a saint, because I know
that the Philioquy wasn't really involved in in Roman Catholicism
until like a round of the late twelve hundreds, but
he was a venerated saying before the Phillioquy was a
sort of enforced doctrine.
Speaker 6: Right well, saanhood in the Orthodox view is not just
limited to whether you believed in the Philioquay or not,
or some specific dogmatic issue, I mean confessing the correct
doctrines as part of it. There's also many things in
the life of France of a CEC that contradict what
Orthodoxy sees is the normative experience for everybody who's a saint.
So one thing that's different, which is a key issue
here between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, is Roman Cuthalsism kind of
has this all over the place wild variance in terms
of what the experience of the saints is like. So
there's the you know, dark knight of the soul, and
there's the mystical spiritual orgasm, or there's there's all these
different wild things, and that's not what happens in Orthodoxy
or orthodox There's the same pattern for everybody, whether it's Moses,
whether it's Paul, whether it's Basil, or whether it's Simion
the New Theologian. Everybody has the same process of purification, elimination, deification.
So thiosis is something that you would have to confess,
and you wouldn't be able to confess the types of
things like stigmata or Francis's vision of seeing angels crucified.
I mean, none of that that's all pre lesson the
Orthodox fw. None of that's consistent with Orthodox process of
you know, noetic healing.
Speaker 32: Okay, Okay, yeah, because I know that hem he claimed
to perceive like the of the Crucifixion and everything.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 32: There's mysticism and orthodox or I was just wondering that.
Speaker 6: Well, but it's different. So again there's a unified experience.
There's not. There's no I'm I'm literally supposed to reu
redo you know, the wounds of Christ or whatever. There's
no visions of you know, Sarahphim being crucified that we
would ever accept. I mean, it's just theologically incorrect. There's
no angels aren't crucified, so that it's just right there.
It tells you it doesn't make any sense. Yakub, I
was just singing about Yakub. We got Yakub calling in,
what's up? My brother? My name is Luca, Luca Brozzi,
Luca Brozi and not who killed Don Corleone or he was.
He's the trader, right, Luca Brozzi? Yahku, what's up on mute?
It's so easy to debate? Yeah, Kub, what's up on mute?
You got turning your permissions on? Let's see, we got
Carlos wind Dollares. Christis soon hear me. I can now
what's upright?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 6: Jay?
Speaker 33: So I was just learning about the funk apocalypse, right,
and I heard you say that everybody in Hell has
Funko Pop's head.
Speaker 31: So I was just wondering where you can find that
in the Church Fathers.
Speaker 6: It's in. It's in UH. The first chapter of UH
Hasbro and Hasbro citing Saint Mattel and they point out
that when you go into hades, you are plastic, plasticified,
and so you become plastic so that you can be
cooked over and over like sam Hi cook the Funko
Pops in a fry cooker. It's so easy to debait,
so easy to de bait a deep fried my five
thousand dollars Funco collection. All right, I'm finally doing my
unboxing over one thousand long a Funko Pop Marvel gear.
Speaker 34: Whoa, whoa seven gallons of high quality corn oil.
Speaker 6: Yes, working me out for a long time.
Speaker 20: I've been an Indian fisher for a long time.
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Speaker 20: And get Freddy and their Tusha. They're together.
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my lore, the lore of Jasonalysis, then you know that
at our live events, at least for the first year
of live events. Oh look, they turned into the infinity stones.
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Speaker 20: You're not a real Marble fans. You're not a fan
of real human.
Speaker 6: When you uh fry the Funko pops, they turn into
the in cell stones. You put them into your name,
You put them into your Nintendo power Glove for those
that are wondering. Uh anyways, anyways, time to oil up
boys and girls. Sam Oak, I like that man's name.
It's just it's just a basic tree name. There's Bob Birch,
There's Sam Oak.
Speaker 7: There's a can I make a crane core request for
the future.
Speaker 35: I do want to debate you on something, but my
favorite character of yours is Delante from Delante's Inferno. Come Get,
Come Get the best barbecue out of Memphis.
Speaker 6: Okay, so we Delonte would probably be serving up some
hellacious ribs from the underworld. So that's a that's a
pretty good idea.
Speaker 7: That's right. We've got the go chains and the beats.
Speaker 35: Yeah, yeah, well, okay, one question I had, are you
familiar with Bruce Gore? He's a Covenant theology Presbyterian. You
did a bunch of lectures. Okay, he's uh.
Speaker 7: I think he's Yeah, he's.
Speaker 3: A Presbyterian anyway, he claims, and I watched.
Speaker 35: His whole series on the Bible and the history of
the Bible, and he claims that when the Temple was
destroyed in AD seventy, that the genealogies of David were lost.
Speaker 7: Like, I guess all the genealogies were lost? Is that true?
Speaker 6: As far as I know? That's correct. I mean, this
is why modern day Jews have discussed like some sort
of like DNA test to try to figure out who
the descendants of the Kohanim are and all this kind
of stuff. I don't know how they would do that,
but I mean the reasoning is that because purportedly the
genealogies have been lost as far as I know.
Speaker 7: And is that, like, where what's the reference for that?
Who is the historian that you know?
Speaker 6: Because I don't know where to I don't, you know,
I've never actually went and checked to that. I don't know, Okay,
it's just something I've heard for a long time.
Speaker 35: I went searching on the web for it, and a
Roman historian named Cassius Dio came up, and I just
didn't feel like buying his book and looking through it,
But it's an interesting thought.
Speaker 7: Now when it comes to doing.
Speaker 6: Well, he did a book signing at Barnes and Noble
last year, so he's a really cool dude. Yeah.
Speaker 35: Well, when it comes to doing all this genetic testing,
you're a smart guy, don't you think that the early,
the people that first submit their samples, that whenever you
add the rest of the aggregate data, you're trusting the early,
the early genetic testing, the people that submit their genetic data,
you're trusting them to have a correct history of who
they are, where they come from.
Speaker 36: Right.
Speaker 6: It seems like, yeah, probably that there's some level of
like assuming something. I don't know much about all that,
but I would I would. I would guess so because.
Speaker 35: Like if if a bunch of Inuit claimed they were
Argentina and submitted their DNA, that would skew all the future.
Speaker 6: Data would not If that's how it works, I would
think so. But again, I've never submitted my DNA. I've
always thought those things were probably scammy or some kind
of like government like trick, corporate trick to get you
to send in your you know, DNA to something. So yeah,
so I don't know actually how it works. So I've
never done it, but I would imagine there's probably fraud
going on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 35: It's just you know, whoever the early sample is, you're
you're you're benchmarking all your future submissions to that early
sample and the the his you know, correct history history
that they're giving.
Speaker 6: So it's just yeah, well, I mean I don't think that.
I don't I don't know how they would ever figure
out who the kohimur.
Speaker 35: Yeah, yeah, but I would like to know where that
reference comes from, because.
Speaker 7: You know, that would be a really saying. You know,
if you want to do apologetics.
Speaker 35: The Jews or anybody else, or even the yak.
Speaker 7: Kubs out there and yak Kub in.
Speaker 6: The purid well, thank you. Yeah, we'll have to ask,
you know, the Galactic High Council whether or not it's
appropriate to ask that of Yakub. But I will speak
to my my posse, to my boys and see if
it's if that's allowable. Carlos Carlos Marquez Carlos says for
one dollar to Christ, the same human nature before or
during creation. The assumption of human nature has to be
during creation, because it happens in the Book of Luke
at the beginning when he is it's called the annunciation.
Right when we figure out we learned that Mary was pregnant.
So if Jesus gets his human nature from Mary, and
then the assumption of human nature is during creation. Is
the union of the human nature divine exemplify in the Theophanes. Well,
there's no human nature in the Theophanes. So the Theophanes
are examples of energetic manifestations of God in time and space,
particularly God the Son. So it's not the Father, it's
not particularly the Holy Spirit. Unless there's something that makes
it clear that there's a manifestation proper to one of
the hypostases. That would be an energetic manifestation of the
Father or the Spirit. It's not the person of the
Father or the Spirit in orthodox theology. So all Theophanes
are first and foremost the Son. So the Theophanes priest
signify the incarnation. But the Theophanes themselves are not the incarnation.
They're just foreshadowings of showing that God can do this. Right,
If God can be, if God the Son can be
in time and space, then he can be in a
human nature in time and space.
Speaker 20: Okay, awesome, thank you so much.
Speaker 37: I'm sorry.
Speaker 20: I had no idea that you're that already.
Speaker 6: I just got to it. That was your question. Yeah, yeah,
I literally made a Twitter so I can ask you that.
Speaker 34: I don't have any social media, but I made that
so I can get that.
Speaker 6: So thank you, sir. H Yeah, the Theophanes and the
Orthodox view are definitely foreshadowing the incarnation, but the incarnation
is a specific event when Jesus enters the womb of
the Virgin and undergoes a full human development. He never
ceased to be a divine person. He was always the
second person of the Godhead, fully divined, but in becoming incarnate,
he went through all the stages of human development, from
infancy to mature adulthood. And so, as the church father say,
since he lived through all the stages of human development,
he can save human beings from every stage. So he
can save infants and he can save adults. Since your
hypogrithey dollars, I finally attended Orthodox church the first time.
I'm going to explore other Orthodox church in my area
eventually want to become a catechumen. Thank you another Orthodox
online for getting me closer. Hey, glad to hear that.
Sincere hypocrite. I've seen you who super chatting for many
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My love for my music is harang, but my love
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Speaker 7: I like that.
Speaker 6: I could go with that. Carlos again, one dollar. Did
christis seen human nature during creation? Yes, it was assumed
in the beginning of when you read the first couple
chapters of the Book of Luke Miloslaw. Five dollars Haram
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Speaker 12: Jay?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 38: So I saw the last debate. I'm actually uh. I
love doing apologetics on on x here. It's like a sport.
It's pretty fun. So definitely caught that debate. I've been
so I guess when you do apologetics to run into
that question about the trinity a lot.
Speaker 31: Everybody always acts confused.
Speaker 6: About how it works.
Speaker 38: So I've been I've been trying out a way of
explaining the trinity. But the red flag for me is
like I've been or hurt anybody explain it this way,
and so that usually is like, am I doing like
some weird gnostic things? So I was hoping to run
it past you and see what kind of I guess
feedback you'd give me on the explanation A right, So
I guess the way The way I've been explaining it is,
you know, when you read about the Father, generally it's
associated with the will.
Speaker 20: You know, the father's will.
Speaker 7: Jesus does the father's will.
Speaker 38: Jesus is the word, you know, the Word of God,
and the Holy Spirit is inside you.
Speaker 6: So you know.
Speaker 20: When i'm you know, if I was as a father,
if I'm talking.
Speaker 38: To my son, I have a will for what I
want to say, and boring of my will would be
the word.
Speaker 7: So the Son of God is born of the will.
Speaker 6: We also see Jesus, and so it's automatically not right
because the son is not born of will. In fact,
this is a debate between the Arians and into the Orthodox,
because the Arians argue that the sun is generated by will,
and anything that's by will is common to all three
persons because will is a property of nature, So all
three persons in the Trinity share the same will. Now,
the analogy that's sometimes made in the Church Fathers on
this point prior to Augustine is that the Father is
like a mind, the Son is like the word, and
the Spirit is like the breath. That's a patristic analogy
that's used, but any kind of analogy like this falls
apart and doesn't really work, because all analogies are just
things that relate to the created order, which is made
up of parts. And the problem is, of course, that
the persons aren't parts. So while attributes can be in
a loose sense analogous, that you can't say that the
trinity that any person is a product of will. This,
by the way, is another reason why we say that
not Mormons Roman Catholics are wrong with the pilioque is
because they each that the Holy Spirit proceeds from will.
But that would make the spirit subordinate and a product.
And that's actually the very identical debate that Athanasius has
with the Arians who say that the sun is a
product of will. So I would say, no, those are
not good analogies. Elias, welcome everybody. You missed one hour
of singing. Shame on you. What's up? Man?
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm too Oh.
Speaker 6: One of them is kind of like an anecdotic speaking
of the mic. I can't hear you do? Oh, shoot
my god, let me take off my head.
Speaker 7: Hello.
Speaker 37: Hey, okay, one, I just want to I argue with
the crazy person today on campus. I'm a cate of Cuman,
slowly learning theology and things like that, but preaching craziness,
talking about how you can feel the Holy and his
wrists and his ankles. I'm on my college campus today.
He said that it goes in his stomach and tells
him when Christ is talking to him.
Speaker 20: So I obviously decided I'm going to this.
Speaker 6: This is that, this is that uh that shining theology, right,
remember the shining when he's like Tony right, and he
says he lives in his tummy.
Speaker 3: Something like that, and I got some weird vibes.
Speaker 37: So I talked to him and you know, like the
saying where like the demons will flee from the sign
of the cross, uh huh.
Speaker 3: He was talking to me about how.
Speaker 37: I come to Christ, and I was like, oh, well,
I just crossed myself and I crossed.
Speaker 3: Myself in front of him, and he got so angry talking.
Speaker 37: About and he was like, you think the Treach is
a building, and.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's an institution.
Speaker 37: It's and I kept like trying to He kept saying,
You're you're deceived, You're deceived, You're deceived, and I just
kept asking him by who, And then my question for
you there is like obviously dealing with him is not
really like, uh, conducive to a positive.
Speaker 6: Experience for either of us.
Speaker 37: I kind of came in there just for fun, but like,
this is the only thing we can do pray for.
Is there any way to speak to them on like
a one to one basis when they're that crazy?
Speaker 3: Because I know you deal with people like that all
the time, and I, like I thought about it.
Speaker 37: I was like, oh man, Twitter spaces, Like I cannot
imagine speaking to people like this guy, like you know,
shining theology on the daily, Like how do you address
these people.
Speaker 3: And actually try to guide them towards the truth?
Speaker 7: Like is it arrogant to think that I can do that?
Speaker 3: That's that's my question.
Speaker 6: I mean I think you can feel out pretty quickly
whether somebody's open to what you're saying or not, and
if they're not, just move on. So that's what I
would do.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 37: And then my second quick question, this one is regarding iconography.
Speaker 3: Am I okay to ask that?
Speaker 6: Or yeah, it's it's whatever, okay.
Speaker 37: So I know that oftentimes, within you know, our Christian thought,
we do not portray the Father. I was just in
Romania with my wife on like a second when we
were going and visiting her family and Malania is great,
like super orthodox. I love it, Like you go to
a restaurant, there's an icon corner, It's awesome. A lot
of churches have like two main icons on the front,
one of Christ at the right hand of the Ancient
of Days, and I'm wondering, like, what is the is there?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So there's a couple exceptions to this Ancient of Days, right,
there's a couple exceptions, which is the Ancient of Days
is one of the exceptions. And the way it's supposed
to work is that when the Ancient of Day's icon
is done, it's supposed to picture the Ancient of Days
as an older version of Christ, not that Christ is
an old man, but that that's the only way that
you could symbolically portray the hypostasis of the Father is
as Christ, because Christ is, as he says, the only
image of the Father. So I think it's satan. It's
the This comes up in the Moscow icons a nod
where they discussed the one one way that he can't
be ortrayed, which is as Ancient Days. But it's not
portrayal of the hypostasis or the Father directly. And this
is why when you see in Revelation one when Christ
appears right, he has like shining white hair and this
kind of stuff, because it's it's radiant, and he's it's
yakub exactly exactly right, proving that he's like Cornell West.
So but anyway, yeah, we're gonna move on. I appreciate that.
But yeah, that's what I would say. I'd say that
if you read the Aspensky Lawsky Book, Volume two, it
covers that very issue really really well. It's probably the
best coverage of that topic I've ever seen. Channing Tatum,
what's up? Channing Tatum? Go ahead, Chad? What's up? Are
you there? You turn your mic on?
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: I barely heard you. What's up either, Chad Tatum? Channing Tatum,
what's up? Can't hear you?
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Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 6: I'm a big fan. Jay.
Speaker 7: How would you approach on.
Speaker 3: Like your your parents, my parents, like Protestants presidents?
Speaker 6: How would you like approach like trying to get them
to understand or you ever played thumb knuckles?
Speaker 31: No?
Speaker 6: Well, look up? How to do thumb knuckles, and then
I want you to walk up to your dad and
just thump them in the nose and be like, become Orthodox,
all right? Bow and then be then suddenly say become
Orthodox and he will all right. How would I approach parents? Uh,
don't try to argue or theologically Uh, you know, directly
discourse with parents unless they ask you questions. That's the
only time that you should ever talk about that kind
of stuff to your parents, because if you try to
argue with your parents, especially if you're in your twenties,
they're not gonna listen to you. In fact, you're brought
your is probably never gonna listen to you if you
argue or debate with them. It's only ever appropriate, I think,
to answer their questions if they ask you. That's it.
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of that always grossed me out. Well, I mean there's
alcohol in wine, so when the wine goes into the
it's disinfected. So you're not getting sick from people. Also,
by the way, we believe in the real presence, and
so we don't think it's going to get you sick.
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I would do that, but I can't do it Sam impression.
He has a very unique voice. I can't do it.
That would be funny, though, if he was doing his
debates with a machine, Elf, that would be funny. David,
twenty dollars. I appreciate all that you do. Thank you, David.
Appreciate that super chatting, that support how old night. Five dollars.
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I showed my boomer dad you're Randy Ball's video. He
wasn't sure how to react. Well, you know, I was
gonna do a stream just talking about comedians and whining
and bitching, but I decided not to. I don't know why,
because we we just went with open debate. But yeah,
I just there's a lot of divides when it comes
to comedy. One of those divides is generational Boomers just
don't get the kind of stuff that anybody Millennial and Under.
I mean you started getting weird comedy with gen X,
So technically, yes, it starts with gen X. Like the
state I never liked. Who's the Skittles Canadian troupe that
everybody likes. I'm going blank, I never liked them, but
they were weird kids in the hall. I mean that's
gen X comedy state gen X. You know, a lot
of popular sketch troop from the nineties stuff was gen
X and it was getting weird. But Boomers just never
vibe with that. Very very rare. So it'd be interesting
to see or to know why that is. I wondered
about that for a long time, like why why do
Because Millennial and Under, especially the gen X is always
like a transition phase between the generations, so music wise,
like Boomers are never going to like Millennial and Under
music for the most part, but gen X is that bridge, right,
because some gen X will like Boomer stuff, but then
some gen X will like Millennial and understuff, So it
seems like there's always that the one that's between the
two is a bridge generation. But there is some sort
of divide between boomer era and everything millennial and under
which is never ever going to be bridged ever, which
is interesting. Why is that? I also think there's an
IQ gap to with. I'm more and more starting to
think this is that, like what is funny? This is
another gap. It's another divide, like people who have like
I don't know, one, one hundred and one, ten and
under IQ, like they're just not ever gonna find certain
things funny. They're always gonna find like really mid tier
stuff very funny, like the Comedy Central comedians or something
like that. I don't know, or some of the popular
comedians that we're supposed to think are funny. There's just
something I don't know. It's just weird. I can't figure
it out. It's a mystery. Uh, it's open debate, dude,
So what do you mean, no Christian? Did I've defended
at Trinity in every debate with Muslims so far? I
mean this is We're going on like six seven eight
Muslim debates like the top Literally the only one I
haven't debated is no. I guess there's a couple I
haven't debated, Zakir Naik Mohammed, hit John and Ali Dawa.
Does Ali Dawa even do debates, I don't even know.
But so there are three prominent Muslims that I can
think of that I haven't debated, but the rest of
them we've done debates. With so Yousef you can call in,
you agree to people in the chat agree. You think
it's IQ. I think so too. No, No, I'm not
saying so it's different with boomers. I don't think with
boomers it's totally like an IQ thing. I'm saying two
different issues. You could take low IQ people from any
age group and they're not gonna think certain things are
funny that high IQ or above mid tier IQ people
think are funny. I don't know why. It's a weird thing,
but I mean, the more I think about it, I mean,
humor requires getting different senses to things like if you're
a let's say you're a literalist or you're you're a
very low IQ person. You don't understand nuance or like
Molti staple senses to words or intentional absurdity. You just
kind of read everything it's literal. So i Q has
to play a big role as well. But there's a
separate issue with the boomers, because you gotta have a
super high Q boomer who is not going to think,
you know, world peace is funny. It's gonna be like,
what is that?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 6: Anyway, Aiden, Aiden and a Bettan. I'm mute, Aiden, I'm mute.
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or maybe the new ones, maybe Pronetheus, Alien Covenant and Romulus,
because I think I did a stream a few years ago.
But see, here's the thing with the way this works now,
like the streams that I did in twenty eighteen, when
I covered like a zillion movies, I had probably one
fourth the audience then that I have no right. So
so all of these streams, people haven't seen these, and
they're probably buried in the algorithm. Anyway, I'll probably just
redo everything. What do you guys think?
Speaker 2: Stream?
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Alien and Aliens Decoded four. It's actually five years ago
eight thousand views, so that they didn't get hurly any views. Well,
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Speaker 31: Probably like ten.
Speaker 6: Well you miss about four new awesome cringe Coors songs.
I have to I have to rewind him then, right, Okay,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 36: I'm also a Christian and I want to know why
more people don't talk about creation theory, Like, how come
you don't talk about it more?
Speaker 14: Uh?
Speaker 6: What do you mean? I'm talking about it a ton?
Speaker 3: I feel like there's no debate about it though, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 6: No, that's not true, Like you can find within the
last six years probably probably ten or fifteen times I've
debated with people on evolution.
Speaker 36: Okay, yeah, because I know, like doctor Can't Hoven is
big about like he used to be big about it
and he still is, but he doesn't get like any
views on his videos.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, it could it could just be that.
It could just be that, like that debate has been
had like so many times that I don't know, maybe
people are tired of it. I don't. I don't follow
Kent Hoven, so I don't. I don't know what his
thing is. But anyway, I appreciate that. But you can
find in my archives multiple talks, multiple discussions on it.
I think after a while, you get you kind of
get tired of the same old debate, like I get
tired of like we did. We did so many atheist
debates in the last six years that you just kind
of now it's like, Okay, I've the last few years
it's been primarily Muslim debates, so and that's kind of interesting.
But even that gets old. It's sort of like, how
many times can I have the same debate? And another
thing that happens is that you if you do debates
for a long time, a lot of you always heard
that it's the same stuff over and over. So it's like,
you know, when are we going to hear something new? Well,
probably not from the atheists. We're not gonna hear anything new.
So so maybe that's topic fatigue. Maybe that's part of it.
I don't know, no one special.
Speaker 33: Yah, well, hey, how's it going?
Speaker 6: Hey? Yeah?
Speaker 33: I actually have like three questions, but I don't know
which is more important. So I watched the presentation if
that was called is there a patal plow in a
Crimson Dental Argument for God?
Speaker 3: By Michael Riley, And.
Speaker 33: He went over a paper written by a guy named
Barry Shroud back.
Speaker 6: In Yeah, we've covered this many times, Oh you have?
Speaker 33: Okay, Well, I mean maybe you could point me, like
I go down your channel so I couldn't find it.
Speaker 6: Well, Barry Stroud's argument is a problem with kanti and
transcendental arguments, and so it's not addressing what the trans
argument for God is, So it's addressing something totally different,
well not totally different, but not not the same thing
as what we're arguing. So, in other words, if you're
a secular atheist and your presuppositions are secularism, I don't
think you would do much to try to use. In
other words, if I was not a theist and I
was just arguing for CONTs transcendental arguments, I would agree
with Barry Stroud's critiques of the weaknesses and the lack
But the transfer argument for God is not a secular
Kantian argument.
Speaker 33: Okay, I'm not I'm not a You don't have to
worry about that. So I was just curious because I'm
kind of like new to this whole topic.
Speaker 6: I've done two streams. I've done two long streams addressing objections.
I think I covered it in one of those.
Speaker 33: Okay, so my second question might be a little weird.
I've heard it said that the word soul does not
appear in the Bible. I don't know that if this
is factual or not. What's the orthodox view on the soul?
Speaker 6: And like what it is? Uh yeah, of course that's
the word soul. I mean, of course it does.
Speaker 3: What I mean, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think that's uh so preposter like it's kind of
on the surface preposterous, like.
Speaker 7: We can try breath or something like that. Like the
translation means.
Speaker 6: I think, what is it in the Old Testament. It's
like nep fash or something like that. I don't know.
Speaker 33: Like I said, I'm not an expert on new this,
so I'm very new to this, the transcendental argument, orthodoxy
and things like that.
Speaker 6: But I am aware of so hold on. So right,
So God breathed into Adam and he has made a
living soul. And you're saying, well, the word.
Speaker 7: Is I'm nothing.
Speaker 6: It's the word is the fresh right here. So it's
used four hundred and seventy five times in the Bible
for a human soul. Okay, all right, Now beyond that,
how would Christ, you know, descend into hades if you
didn't have a soul.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point.
Speaker 31: Okay, you covered that.
Speaker 33: So I've I've heard you mentioned common says philosophers you're
probably aware of, like Thomas Reid and acquire Aguncity Human
Mind on the principles of common sense as like a
reputation to Hume's skepticism.
Speaker 6: Are you aware of this, I'm familiar with Thomas Reid
and common sense philosophia.
Speaker 31: Yeah, Like what do you what do you think about it?
Speaker 6: Well, I mean it doesn't really do anything to answer
the objections from a strict, uh, you know, justify true
belief perspective. It basically just kind of hand waves it
and says we're just going to rely on you know,
common sense data and pragmatism. So it's kind of a
pragmatic move. But to me, that wouldn't solve or get
us to the status of justification just by hand waving
or trying to, because it still it begs the question, Okay, well,
why are we supposed to just trust common sense like
sense data.
Speaker 33: Yeah, the way I write it was like, because it's
kind of funny, it's kind of humorous to me, because
the way I took his argument was that the people
arguing for skepticism, like Hume, they don't actually believe it
in practice, like they're doing like performative contradictions. They don't
believe what they're saying in actual practice because they go
about their lives, write books, do things like that. Right
that if they read everything was a delusion, Right, why
would they even do that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Hume doesn't actually believe that the world works that way,
but he's saying that in terms of epistemology, you can't
justify you know, the external world induction, regulatory of nature,
identity over time. None of those things can be empirically
epistemically justified.
Speaker 3: Oh so it's basically a justification.
Speaker 6: Arguments correct, And so Hume is known as the one
who psychologized as epistemology.
Speaker 33: All right, yeah, thank you very much for listening those questions.
I've been trying to get in the stream, but you
always have a topic.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh, open topics.
Speaker 6: Okay, sure, yeah, good questions. Walmart waighed every day low
price is made in Americ accept this.
Speaker 7: Could Jay?
Speaker 31: What's up?
Speaker 6: Hear me?
Speaker 36: Uh?
Speaker 31: I got a disagreement, probably not a debate, full flesh debate.
But I went to h it's.
Speaker 39: About Christ Christophanes in the Old Testament. And I went
to an Orthodox service last Wednesday, and I think it
was for some feast of Saint Michael.
Speaker 6: Uh, one of one of those days.
Speaker 39: I mean they there was some hymns and themes about
him and stuff, But in one of the songs it
sounded like they were crediting Old Testament theophanies to him,
like the appearing Joshua striking down the Assyrians. Instances in
the Old Testament that I thought had been about the
Angel of the Lord. But I was a confused by that.
Maybe I misunderstood what was going on.
Speaker 6: No, it's it's understandable. A lot of people get confused
over this. I remember myself being confused as well when this,
when I first encountered this. Let me pull it up.
Now you'll notice that there's some clues in Joshua that
helps us to know. Hold on, I'm trying to find
the entire It's not letting me go to the books
of Joshua. It's just pulling up Joshua one. So let
me go to Joshua Joshua five.
Speaker 31: I think, yeah, I think Shepherd five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple of clues in there that tell
us that more is going on. Now. The real solution
to the problem, just to say from the outset, is
that you have in the New Assessment, for example, multiple
places where it's explained that two things that somebody might
think is contradiction. At one point, we're told, Paul says
in Galatians, that the law was given through angels, and
yet at the same time we're told in other places
that it was Jesus who was on Mount Sinai. Jesus
himself says that he was the one talking to Moses.
So is it Jesus or is it the Law mediated
through angels? And actually it's a both and And the
reason for that is that every time there's a theophany,
it's not just the Son. It's also implied that, due
to paracaresis in the in dwelling of the persons of
the triad, the Father and the Spirit are also present
because they're never separated, but they're not present in the
same mode as the Sun, because it's the Sun that's
the one that's going to become incarnated. So there's a specific,
unique aspect to the manifestations and the Old Testament to
the logos. For example, in the Leviticus nine passage where
we read about the fire and the cloud that comes
down the glory that comes down, it specifically says the
Lord was in the cloud, So I think that's supposed
to be the logos present in that energetic manifestation. Now,
what that also means is that every time God's present,
he's also present with his angelic host. So, for example,
when Jesus speaks in Revelation one, when he's pictured as
the sort of glorified man with the white hair, not yakub,
but that means that it says that John says something
like a voice of a multitude was there with him.
And if you read Ezekiel one to ten and eleven,
where you see him riding the chariot throne, the son
of Man appears one like a son of Man riding
the chariot, and the chariot are the cherub him. So
every time the Logos is present, he's also present with
those angelic hosts. So it's a both and and not
an either or. Again, think to the manifestation to Abraham,
where it says there's two angels and the Lord. It
explicitly explains that only one of the three messengers is
the Lord. The other two are angels who go to
destroy sodomy Goemora. So it's not literally the trinity. That's
three angels. It symbolizes the trinity and that it's three,
but only one of them is quote the Lord the logos.
So the answer is that every time there's a theophany,
it's also an angelic manifestation of the host's Lord of Sabioth,
the Lord of the heavenly hosts. But it is primarily
in first and foremost the Son and I'll show you
that because if you look at when he sees the
commander of the army the Lord, Joshua says, are you
for us or for the adversaries? And he says no,
as the commander of the army of the Lord, I
have now come. And Yoshua falls on his face and
worships and says, what does the Lord say to his servants?
So he identifies this presence as the Lord. And an
even further and he's worshiping. And even further confirmation is
that it says the commander of Lord's army said, take
the sandals off of your feet, for where you stand
as holy That's exactly what is said in Exodus three
when Moses appears or walks to the appearance of the
burning bush, and the logos speaks out of the burning
bush and says, take off your your feet, you are
in holy ground. So in other words, this is identifying
it as the same speaker as in the burning bush.
Speaker 31: Okay, I see I think that.
Speaker 20: I think there.
Speaker 31: Yeah, I may have been a bit confused during the liturgy.
Speaker 6: Because it seems I'm aware of what you're talking about.
It does mention Michael the Archangel' you're correct, Okay, so
is So.
Speaker 31: They're not saying that Michael was in the bush. They're
not saying that Michael was in the furnace with and Daniel,
and I.
Speaker 6: Think they are. They are saying that I'm saying. That's
what I'm saying, saying that when ever there's a Theophany,
it's the entire host of the Lord present with the triad.
It's both, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 31: So the commander in Joshua five is that's the logos, right.
Speaker 6: But it's also Michael too, because every time the logos
is present, he is present with his heavenly hosts.
Speaker 31: Okay, oh oh, all right, I think I understand it's better.
Speaker 6: So when Jesus manifests to Ezekiel in Ezekiel one through
ten and eleven, right, yeah, it's not just Jesus. I mean,
Jesus could manifest Jesus, but typically the Theophanes, there's also
this heavenly host that's with him. Are you familiar with
what I'm talking about. He's riding a chariot, the chariot
he's writing a living chariot that is Cherubin. So he's
present with the heavenly hosts, it's a both.
Speaker 39: And okay, And then I have one last schizo angel
related uh and I think during that hymn or the chant,
there's probably a technical name for it I'm missing, but
I think they mentioned like the plague on the firstborn too,
something about that. And then in one of the psalms,
I know it's like one of the seven in like
Psalm seventy something, but it talks about there the angels
kind of enacting, uh, enacting the curses and plagues on Egypt.
Is there is there like an official teaching on whether
like the destroying angel, if that's the Angel of the Lord,
if that's Satan, if that's Michael, or is there any
full explanation on that.
Speaker 6: I don't think there's any dogmatic definition or statement, because
I mean, conceivably it could be a destroying angel that's
a good angel, or it could be an angel that
is the Angel of the Lord. I mean, it's if
I recall I remember looking into this, I don't remember
what conclusion I came here, But no, there's not like
a dogmatic statement on this.
Speaker 31: Okay, all right, cool, and it's it's some seventy eight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know you're talking about it says that he
sent a destroying angel amongst them, right yep, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah right around there.
Speaker 31: All right, all right, thanks.
Speaker 6: Chief, Yeah, great questions CEC C C Penison. It's not metatron.
There is no metatron. That's a cobbalistic thing.
Speaker 34: Hello, yeah, hey, no, I just wanted to say thanks
for everything you do.
Speaker 20: No debate, no question.
Speaker 34: Really, sometimes what you do say is very deep and
profound for what the listener the caller is asking, and
it sometimes it takes a moment to sink in for
the person to even respond.
Speaker 7: If you get what I'm saying, and.
Speaker 6: It can cause.
Speaker 34: You know, that kind of meditative state of like whoa,
okay that I never.
Speaker 20: Thought of that before.
Speaker 34: And I just want to encourage you and say that
you're doing everything good. I've gotten so much out of
your work and everything you do. I follow you, I subscribe.
I'm not questioning anything really, it's just uh yeah, some
of these people, even myself, I don't really call an often,
but it's it can be sometimes very not difficult, but
more than what the person asked for in your response,
and they need moment a while to like let that
sink in, and it does afterwards, even after the call,
after they hang up, and the next day or the
next week.
Speaker 3: Think about it.
Speaker 34: But I just want to say no, it's all.
Speaker 6: Good, okay, and appreciate that.
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, I can, I can buzz.
Speaker 6: Off no pro Yeah, thank you for that. I mean
I tried to answer that guy's questions in the most
concise clear way. So I don't if he if he
if that was too much or overload. You know, you
can always replay the streams and think it through again,
Aiden Freeman, what's up man? Hey? Yo?
Speaker 3: So I think you might remember me as the.
Speaker 34: Guy with a speech impediment asking about purgatory.
Speaker 3: I think you might remember me as that one guy.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I don't. Oh, okay, well.
Speaker 7: Anyway, No, you might as well know me as that
one hill billy who praised Tray Saggy on.
Speaker 6: What's up man? What's on your mind?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 34: I was trying to figure out what topics through arch
to debate.
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean you don't have to do You
don't have to debate. If you want to ask a
question or comment, you can.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that works too well.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to know.
Speaker 7: What are your thoughts on toll houses.
Speaker 6: I think that there is a Orthodox tool house teaching
that we should hold to. I would say, you know,
you read the Surf and Rose book. I would agree
with that. I think people can go crazy with it.
It can kind of go extreme and treat it like
an Orthodox version of purgatory, and they read every statement literally.
So I do think there is a journey of the soul.
I don't think we have to read it in some
almost purgatory way, but I do think it's part of
the Orthodox tradition. Neil van canegan, what's up? But thank
you for that question. Got to unmute Neil, what's up?
Storm of the Cat said the offspring at the end
of Alien, Rominys looked like a demon. The android also
talks about evolving humanity into a higher stage, which sounds Luciferian.
Oh absolutely, I mean I thought all of that, and
then there's a lot of symbolism going on with Romulus
and Remus, the wolf mother, the genetic experimentation with the girl.
I don't want to spoil it. And people didn't see it.
I thought Romans is pretty good scary movie. Just for
a horror movie, you should probably just do. Because we
did a podcast on the original Alien series. We should
do a podcast on Prometheus, Covenant and Romulus. All right,
people keep dropping off beer Enjoyer. Just straight to the point,
ouxmere fifteen dollars? Are you gonna get tickets for races?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 6: I was hoping it was going to be a announcement
of a new album. They're gonna do a new tour,
but then it's like, oh, we're only going to tour UK,
and I'm like what So No, I don't think I
can buy tickets and fly to the UK for Oasis.
Maybe when they do a US tour.
Speaker 3: Eight Yeah, Hey, what are your thoughts on them?
Speaker 39: On the idea of the American melting pot and its
origins from Israel, sangwell, what are your thoughts on that whole?
Speaker 6: On that concept, I don't think melting pot works anywhere.
It's a stupid idea. I don't know who the guy
was that you mentioned, but no, I wouldn't think it's
a very good idea, Damien, what's up? We may call
it a night here in a minute, and then I'm
starting to get kind of a headache. So I did.
I did the part two lecture. By the way, for
everybody who's a subscriber to the Juice Merleu book. It
will be up. It's already loaded up. I just haven't
done the links yet. So but I did that talk
earlier today.
Speaker 7: What's up, man, how's it going?
Speaker 6: Jam good? What's on your mind?
Speaker 3: So my question is, was Jesus killed by the Pharisees
and the sodysease?
Speaker 6: Jesus was killed by a coalition of the Romans and
the Jews. M So it was.
Speaker 3: It was like a combination of both of them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why both are considered vile in the New Testament.
John calls Rome the beast uh, and I believe in
the Book of Revelation the whore is apostate Israel.
Speaker 3: M Okay, thank you for clarifying that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, good question. Mark of Melbourne.
Speaker 5: N or.
Speaker 6: Cute Willie. Five dollars. I know an educated Mormon who
wants to debate you on the Church Father. Okay, he
can step into this space anytime, but I'm not going
to give a formal debate to some random Mormon dude
ignorant five dollars. We believe in God describing Christianity, I
believe more in my experience while I believe in God
in Christian I believe more in my experience of reality.
I'm not sure what that means. I can't confirm the
Nicene creed. Uh well, I would say the critiques of
skepticism and the transcendent argument is the closest thing I
could come to offering a philosophical argument for the for
the position. What's up? Man? You know I'm mute, dude? Yeah?
Speaker 19: Can I jai?
Speaker 20: It's all I'm mica.
Speaker 15: Melbourne's a question for you, do you I'm just want
to take him on back to the l like Middle Ages.
Have you heard of Marchael Servetus?
Speaker 6: Sure, of course.
Speaker 20: Do you know much about him?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he had a Socinian Ariyan view of Christ and
Calvin hadn't put to death it.
Speaker 20: Do you know much about the man himself? His accomplishments?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 15: Okay, Well, he was one of the smartest men in Europe.
He was the one who first described the cardio pulmonary system.
He was a polymath, literally a lot smarter than you
or I, one of the smartest men in Europe. The
question is why would such a smart person right find
it so hard to understand the Trinity, and why would
such a person voluntarily sacrifice his life at the stake.
Speaker 20: To deny that trinity if it wasn't true.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, this is a fallacy because it has
nothing to do with what's true or false. You know,
given the examples that you gave of his life, like,
none of that has anything to do with whether trinity
is true or false. People all over the world.
Speaker 20: Why would someone like Well, the question is why would somebody?
Speaker 6: I mean, people can have again, people can have multiple
motivations for why they believe or don't believe, but really
has nothing to do with IQ at the end of
the day. And on the other hand, me finished at
the end of the day, it's not a question of IQ,
it's a question of virtue and vice.
Speaker 7: Raw.
Speaker 20: So you think you think that you're.
Speaker 6: I mean, i Q can be a stumbling block.
Speaker 15: We're going to project onto him of some sort of
a negative character trice.
Speaker 6: No, I didn't. I said that, even even because.
Speaker 20: He's an upstanding character.
Speaker 15: I mean, what why would he burn at the stake
and why would the others kill him for denoing the
trinity if it was true?
Speaker 20: You say, we wouldn't.
Speaker 6: You don't understand how dumble of an argument this is.
So you think that what proves something true if somebody
is willing to die for it.
Speaker 20: I'm just saying it just sounds like a particular Do
you think.
Speaker 6: That they're all right?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: Do you think that there are intelligent Buddhists who have
burned themselves in protest?
Speaker 15: Well, let's got nothing to do with the Michael's advice.
Speaker 6: You don't see how that that is. I'm giving you
an example ball to demonstrate how this is not a
good argument. You don't understand that.
Speaker 15: I'm just wondering why people got burned at the stake.
Speaker 6: So you're not listening to my argument or why this is.
Speaker 20: Buddhists spur in themselves.
Speaker 15: That don't they don't get held and tied up by
trinitarians and burn them at this time?
Speaker 6: Did you not hear what I said? So we have
a person who's incapable of restating a hypothetical. So there
we go.
Speaker 20: Okay, Well, if you don't know the answer.
Speaker 6: Can you restate the hypothetical? I don't think you're even
capable of it.
Speaker 15: Actually, when when you started saying Bordhist spurn themselves, that's
got nothing to do with what Michael.
Speaker 20: The position that Michael has survived his head or.
Speaker 6: Why you don't understand how it's an example of the fact.
Speaker 20: That you've got an example nothing to do.
Speaker 6: You're this dumb.
Speaker 20: Seriously, people kill themselves all the time for nothing.
Speaker 6: This is unbelievable. So uh, that's his argument for area
is that the smartest man in Europe, who was an
upstanding character, was burned and put to death, and so
clearly they had something to hide. And you'll notice that
as I tried to work through the example, he couldn't.
He would not and could not restate it. It's call
it is an example of why that's a fallacy. How
does it relate to Marco Savanash? It's an example. You
understand how silly this is. You could give your life
for something false. But the Buddhists a badden themselves. It
doesn't matter how they're dying, dummy. The example is that
is to demonstrate why it's a fallacy. Does that prove Buddhism.
Let's say a Buddhist gets burned by someone else. That
doesn't change the argument. That doesn't change examples. See this
is why people are so slow. And you notice the
like the heat and the like a surety like he
wasn't even going to listen to why what I'm saying
illustrates that this is a bad argument. Good grief, assistant. Okay,
so somebody the smartest Buddhist in the world, someone burns
him to death. Does that prove Buddhism? You see how
stupid this is? Of course? Not what's up? Man, Muslim?
Speaker 11: Name?
Speaker 6: What's up?
Speaker 5: You got?
Speaker 6: I'm mute, my gosh, assistant. It's the eye box fantasy.
If you have been a wall of a if he's
not mousetup standing all of it, praves anti tearing, I
let the Muslim go on and then he leaves. What
the heck? If you have been a wall of it,
it's because you're throwing a hard that's ruth fuzzy peasant.
Speaker 3: Yoh what's up, Jay?
Speaker 6: What's on your mind?
Speaker 7: I'm just wondering.
Speaker 36: I'm a new inquired Orthodoxy and I'm wondering, like, what's
the best all around book that I can read about
the Church.
Speaker 7: For your opinion?
Speaker 6: I mean, are you wanting history? Are you wanting the theology?
Speaker 11: Or what?
Speaker 3: Are you after theology?
Speaker 6: That'd be good. What's your background.
Speaker 3: Protestant? But I'm inquiring the Orthodox looking to join a brock.
Speaker 6: Car probably rock and sand something like that would be good,
mister Anderson, Mister Anderson, I smell your stink. I'm mute,
mister Anderson. Yeah, uh do that the court at the court,
late night, at the court, sinking threes.
Speaker 7: I try.
Speaker 6: I'll come out. I'll come show you how to sink threes.
Oh yeah, I'll bust them in your face.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, challenge accepted, bro.
Speaker 7: Any time any place.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was calling.
Speaker 20: Uh this is like a free for all.
Speaker 21: Any waiting for one of those, uh, because I wanted
to taught to you. I can't remember what the dude's
channel is, but I think he's a little bit of
a kook. But I saw I was watching one.
Speaker 7: Of his videos about Lewis C. S. Lewis and how C. S.
Speaker 21: Lewis is secretly like a post and you know, Golden Down,
and he was going on about how these best friends
with with the oddest inkling.
Speaker 6: Who was Yeah, I'm aware of all that, but he
wasn't in the Golden This is just like evangelical idiots
love to string together these associations because you knew somebody
like I know all kinds of idiots. It doesn't mean
I believe all the views.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. And I I was looking at this guy try.
Speaker 21: I mean, he left the Order of the Golden Dawn
and was you know, granted he was angling or whatever,
but I mean he wasn't like a lifelong member. It
didn't look but anyway, it was just tenuous at best.
Speaker 7: These associates, I thought, right, and so I wanted to
see you had.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's stupid. I've heard it for years.
I mean I read enough. I've read enough C. S.
Lewis to recognize that overall he's has good intentions. He's
not a secret wizard a K. What's up? I mean,
just read the Space Trilogy. It's masterpiece, especially Vuying Fighting
threes exposed the entire n w O agenda. So he
wouldn't be doing that if he was a secret wizard.
What's up?
Speaker 7: Is the other thing I hear is just hostile because
I can't hear him.
Speaker 6: There's no dude here.
Speaker 7: I think delayed.
Speaker 3: I just actually I had one question for you. I've
been thinking about.
Speaker 14: Converting, but I want to ask your opinion on Sam
Choman being a cook in the kitchen.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm i guess that's supposed to be funny
and you're supposed to Yeah, it's really funny. Vic zalmanis
five dollars. I read the first two chapters of Ustycia Day,
but Alstterro McGrath, my presubpositions on friends of dessication have
been obliterated. Yeah, it's wasn't taught in they're in the church,
so it should what's up?
Speaker 3: So I got two questions.
Speaker 40: One is just simply, if I work for Buddhism and
get a risk for public decency, doesn't that make Buddhism true?
Speaker 6: It makes twerking virtuous and it's obvious. So yes, if
if you twork for Buddhism, I would turn gay, it
would be a proof of the virtue of twerking, and
it would prove Buddhism all at once. So you should
do that sounds.
Speaker 7: Good to me.
Speaker 3: And then for my second question, my actual question is just.
Speaker 40: Is I've been thinking about how there is this idea
of like a national character and how certain nations and
certain cultures these seem to like lean towards specific concepts
or ideas. I'm wondering in scripture, is there anything that
details the ultimate.
Speaker 7: Purpose of various nations.
Speaker 31: I'm sorry if that's a broad question, but does that
make sense.
Speaker 20: What I'm asking?
Speaker 6: Well, I think part of that story, the part of
that question is answered in the story of Babbel. I mean,
the nations all wanted to be one in rebellion against God,
and the creation of the many nations is to keep
that one world, anti God order from forming. So it
was a temporary means that God put into the created
order to kind of put a firewall, so to speak. There, Matthew,
But good question, Matthew site soyy.
Speaker 7: What that's what's been might I don't understand?
Speaker 6: Can you speak up? I can't hear you. You're mumbling?
Do you want to talk or not?
Speaker 2: Okay? M h.
Speaker 6: Matthew, are there? I heard some atheist mumbling, but I
have no idea what he was saying. Tech Blue, I mute,
how do you hear me?
Speaker 20: So?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 14: My question is that I don't really understand the the
engine of the Lord and why does the shike he
not doesn't make sense?
Speaker 3: Can you expand on that?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 3: So, from what I've seen of.
Speaker 14: Your videos, you've made the point that if God is
omnipresent and omnipotent, he can't enter into creation, right.
Speaker 6: No, I was saying that if you believe in absolutely
mind simplicity and a neoplatonic definition of simplicity, God couldn't
enter into creation.
Speaker 14: So from I don't really know much about philosophy and everything.
Can you explain to me why the Jewish stance on
that doesn't make sense?
Speaker 6: Did your stance on what theophany simplicity?
Speaker 3: Why, for example, God cannot manifest?
Speaker 6: Well, the Jewish stance is all over the place. I
don't think there is one Jewish dance, so I don't
think that. Like if you look up Chicaina again at
like Jewish Encyclopedia, it mentions the history of debates amongst
rabbis as to what the Theophanes are. So there's been
a long standing debate in the history of Judaism. And
I would say post Mimonides, because mimon Eides has a
very strict definition of what divine simplicity is and unicity
is that it seems like after that point it tends
to be more uniformly angels or Metatron or something like
that that's manifesting.
Speaker 7: Okay, And.
Speaker 3: For example, on the Exodus twenty three, when the gods says.
Speaker 14: To obey the Angel of the Lord. Why do you
say that this is a theophany from me? What I
see is just an angel that obeys God. I don't
see because.
Speaker 6: It's identified as the same one. It's the same one
that spoke in the Burning Bush. And this ain't is
able to pardon transgressions. Only God can pardon sin. And
it's also said that the that the name of Yahweh
is in this angel, So no, it's not just any
old angel.
Speaker 14: But isn't it just like when he speaks, just he's
just reporting what God says like a messenger.
Speaker 6: It doesn't say that it says that his name is
in the Father is saying I put my name in
him and he can remit sins. So only God can
forgive sense. Hmm cute?
Speaker 3: And can you confirm what the assump human said?
Speaker 14: He said that the Angel of the Word doesn't speak
the same as the other angels?
Speaker 7: Is that right?
Speaker 6: I don't know what Sam means when he says doesn't
speak the same? Does he mean like that it's explained
that he calls himself the vine at times. Is that
I don't know what he means?
Speaker 3: Yes, something like that, like Gabriel or Michael, don't say that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would. I would say that when we you see,
you know, for example, Gabriel comes to Daniel, he does
not speak in this way.
Speaker 3: M all right, all right, And my last question, if
you don't mind, is that.
Speaker 14: Again on the same subject that most colors I think
the I agree upon that the fact is that it
was added later, the angel part, because at the beginning
it was just the God interacting directly with.
Speaker 3: Creation. But if that's true, it doesn't it undermind the Trinity.
Speaker 6: Does what on her mind?
Speaker 3: Attorney, if the angel part was added, it wasn't, No,
because the.
Speaker 6: Word angel just means messenger, So it can be the
messenger of the Covenant that we think is Jesus. It
can be a messenger that's a human being, or it
can be a created angelic messenger. So there's nothing about
the word angel that necessarily means Michael or Gabriel.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 14: But like I said, the scholars I read they say
that at first it was just God speaking.
Speaker 3: There wasn't the angel part. It was added later.
Speaker 6: So I don't know what you mean. Are you talking
about the documentary hypothesis that, like certain authors of Genesis thought,
it was only God speaking, and then there's another set
of authors that say that it's alohem, that it's plural,
and then later authors use angel I don't understand what argument.
Speaker 14: My agreement is that they say that when Judaism evolved
from politicism to nutism and then monetarism.
Speaker 6: Okay, well we don't believe that. So you're reading scholars
that have atheist presuppositions. We don't believe that. So we
believe and read the text from the presupposition of inspiration
that the texts are unified and uniform in their theological message.
Speaker 14: But I think if there's a case that it wasn't
truly monetaristic, like the scholar says, it's no.
Speaker 6: But see that's an again, this is an assumption of
what monotheism means. Do you know that monotheism is a
term that doesn't come about until the sixteen hundreds? There
isn't Yeah, so what does monotheism mean? Where do we
derive this idea? And how do we know? Well, it
doesn't come from medieval rabbis, It doesn't come from medieval
Muslim scholars unless we just assume their position. So how
do we know what quote monotheism is?
Speaker 20: I guess by.
Speaker 6: It's not is it self evident? It's just self evident.
Speaker 3: What that means it's one good?
Speaker 6: Yeah, But I mean a Christian can have an account
of that, a Muslim can have an account of that.
You can have an account of that. So just saying
that it means one God doesn't really solve the issue.
That's why there's you know, different models.
Speaker 14: Yes, yes, so that's why you say that, for example,
the Muslim doesn't have a pure monetistic Is that also
a reason?
Speaker 6: Yeah, depending upon which school of Islam or which akda,
depends on how they're going to try to explain one
and many in God. So like a Salafi right AUTHORI like,
they're going to have this idea that Allah's attributes his speech,
his shin, they're all really distinct from Allah. Okay, Well,
explain how there's real distinctions in a law if you
don't believe those things are self existent. So that's why
I bring up that argument with Muslims all the time.
Depending upon which school it is, other schools of Islam
will say, no, the the distinctions are you know, metaphorical,
there's no real shin, et cetera.
Speaker 14: All right, And I know, just I just said it
was my last question, but I just thought of two others.
If you don't mind, or you want to take someone else.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, I'll try to do it quick. Let's do
one more and then when we move on.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I just thought about atonements and how it works.
Speaker 14: I don't understand the Christian way of thinking because and
the Old Testament from whatever.
Speaker 3: It and what the Robbis told me is that these
sacrifices are just for unintentional sins.
Speaker 14: And the way Jesus was killed, it wasn't in a
cootier way anyway, So it doesn't work like that. I
don't understand how you can think that someone is then
for a sens of others, even if he was God,
or even if it was perfect.
Speaker 3: It just God doesn't follow his own rules for that.
And I don't understand why Christians think that way.
Speaker 6: Well, we don't think that it was primarily a sacrifice
to appease a bloodthirsty God. We think that it was
an act of love for the son of Man or
for the human, for the son of God to enter
into human nature, heal the destruction of the nature that
Adam had caused. So it's not primarily a bloody sacrifice
to avengeful deity or something like that like Pagan's think.
But even Rabbinical tradition has this notion of righteous men
covering the sins of others and dying for others. My
friend k Me who's a Messianic Jew, he wrote a
book on early Rabbinic ideas and debates about Jesus, and
he talks about different places in there where no actually
rabbis did believe that the Messiah would come, that he
would perhaps even atone for the sins of others, and
even Judaism believes in two different messiahs. To try to
grapple with these texts that sometimes talk about the Messiah
undergoing death, so it's not an action that I don't
know what you meant by that death wasn't even kosher.
Speaker 14: I mean, he wasn't the limb that was sacrificed and
the temple needed to be I don't know if you
ordered English king, it was supposed to be clean.
Speaker 6: And yeah, when the Gospel of John cites those passages,
it talks about him being morally pure and perfect. So
we believe all that cleanliness stuff ultimately has to do
with moral cleanliness, not ritual cleanliness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he wasn't killed by the priest. He was
killed by the Romans.
Speaker 6: Now, he was killed by a conglomeration of both. The
priests conspired to hand him over to the Romans to
be killed.
Speaker 20: They ended it over.
Speaker 3: But they didn't do what kind of thing the prayers?
He didn't do that.
Speaker 6: Well, he did the prayers because we think Christ is
the ultimate high priest. I think of your questions. But
Christ did the prayers on the cross when he prayed
Psalm twenty three, right me, Palm twenty two. So the
prayers were done. They were done by the true high priests,
according to Hebrews seven, who was Christ himself. No, it
doesn't mean that the you know, uh and an eye
as Archiaphas has to literally come and do the prayers
over Jesus as the sacrifice. Anyway, A sorry, but good questions, Kay,
go ahead, hello ja hey, yeah jes one.
Speaker 3: A two questions for you.
Speaker 5: One is, uh, do you agree that all that you
have now there's a trinity and all this selfie, all
this concept of God, it is just a middle concept,
the human construct.
Speaker 3: In order to understand.
Speaker 5: God from textual evidence or logic. Oh h mass transmitted information. Right,
So basically it is human construct in their mind.
Speaker 3: To understand God, which in later.
Speaker 5: There's a series of human error in it, right, because
there's a limit into our sense and logic and et cetera.
Speaker 3: R So basically, on this how do we do how
do we decide the truth?
Speaker 34: Which is the truth?
Speaker 5: And then the second question is the second question is
with regard to your debt with Muslim Latin the other day,
right when it's actually your your argument against him. That's
all the two questions.
Speaker 6: Thanks, I apologize, man, I didn't understand either question. I mean,
I'm sorry. So the first question was you said mentioned
Salafi and then conceptions and human conceptual creations. I just
I just didn't understand the question. And what was my
argument against Muslim Lantern? I mean, I gave a few arguments.
One was that his analogies using his shirt and attributes
doesn't work because all is nothing like creatures, so the
relationship of a shirt to its parts is not going
to work to explain all in his attributes in their relationship.
I also critique the notion of whether or not the
attributes are self existent or whether they exist only in
a law, and that goes back to ancient debates within Islam.
So those were some of the arguments I gave Matt.
Did you want to try again? What's up, Matt? Okay whatever.
I'm getting pretty tired, so I think we're gonna call
it a night. Let's see we've got more super tests.
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Did Avenue you have other children? I think we're supposed
to assume that, Yeah, Josh five dollars. I grew up
in Protestantism. My wife and I is as well Protestant.
She's very Protestant. How should I talk to her about Orthodoxy?
Maybe try to get her to read something or watch
the documentary, like the Icon documentary, something like that to
ease her into it. Probably not going to work to
debate divine comedy. Ten dollars. I've been watching your stuff.
I've noticed that American fundamentalism is the most gnostic of
all the Protestant heresy is correct. It is hostile to art, history, music,
and civilization. They just huddle in their strip malls. Uh yeah,
and that's ultimately why they kind of end up having
a problem with the incarnation. So absolutely, Widows ten dollars,
I knew Orthodoxy from Calvinism. I have questions concerned the
different in Orthodox churches, Russian, Greek, et cetera. What would
you suggest, if any and why, I mean, jurisdictions is
a whole other bag. I wouldn't worry about that if
you need to, Orthodoxy would just focus on whatever is
the best church near you and don't worry about the
jurisdictional issues. So that's something you can study down the
road on your own. But what else