Speaker 1: Brookie, Joe Biden is not only dumb and incompetent. I
Speaker 1: believe that he has gone mad, a stark, raving lunatic
Speaker 1: with his horrible and country threatening environmental open borders and
Speaker 1: DOJFBI weaponization policies. He is a mental catastrophe that is
Speaker 1: leading our country to hell, will end up in World
Speaker 1: War three because of this man, and for no reason whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I'm joined today by mister legendary Energy himself anomaly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I liked I liked campaign Trump. Trump had a lot
Speaker 2: of good things to say, you know, leading us into
Speaker 2: World War three. In fact, he was particularly referencing Joe
Speaker 2: Biden's strikes on Yemen with that talk. So we're now
Speaker 2: striking Yemen over the past forty eight hours. We've launched
Speaker 2: multiple air strikes against them. And Trump sent out a
Speaker 2: tweet which I will read to you guys in a second,
Speaker 2: but before I do that, Well, the point of the
Speaker 2: tweet is that he's getting real feisty with a run,
Speaker 2: which has always been my greatest concern. What are your thoughts? Man?
Speaker 2: I know you you have been as pessimistic or as skeptical,
Speaker 2: I should say, as I have.
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 2: What are you feeling.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm optimistic.
Speaker 5: I guess it just doesn't always translate to politics because
Speaker 5: they always.
Speaker 4: You know, established in the back.
Speaker 5: But I mean, when it comes to Iran, it's important
Speaker 5: to know the deep state for decades has wanted a
Speaker 5: war with Iran. The neo cons have wanted a war
Speaker 5: with Iran. The war pigs and the warhawks have wanted
Speaker 5: a war with Iran. The uniparty has wanted a war
Speaker 5: with Iran. I would say the media has pushed for
Speaker 5: a war with Iran. People like Nettan, Yahoo and others
Speaker 5: have been in front of Congress kind of egging on
Speaker 5: or at least saying that this was inevitable, hoping that
Speaker 5: the United States would get.
Speaker 4: Involved with a war with Iran.
Speaker 5: So with that being said, you know, I think a
Speaker 5: lot of people that like Trump are hoping that he
Speaker 5: has a plan or perhaps a strategy, like the first
Speaker 5: time where it seemed like he was getting kind of
Speaker 5: close but nothing.
Speaker 4: Really ever popped off.
Speaker 5: I would say this on the Camp paintrail, there was
Speaker 5: that second killer who had a lot more info on him.
Speaker 5: The first attempted killer, like Ryan, I forget his name,
Speaker 5: maybe it was Ryan Ruth or maybe that was the
Speaker 5: second one.
Speaker 2: I think that was Crooks.
Speaker 5: Crooks was the first one. Yeah, there's like nothing on
Speaker 5: that guy, and then the second one. He had a
Speaker 5: lot of videos, He had a lot of interviews like
Speaker 5: on YouTube where he had served in the Ukrainian military
Speaker 5: from America, and then he was used to recruit former
Speaker 5: terrorist organizations to something like to I think like that
Speaker 5: Afghany Taliban members, trying to get them to work with Ukraine.
Speaker 5: And then when all that happened, I'm not saying that
Speaker 5: for sure that was done on behalf of Ukraine because
Speaker 5: it really could have not been. You know, I don't
Speaker 5: know that for sure. This guy could have been rogue.
Speaker 5: But when Trump he tweeted I ran did it, That's
Speaker 5: when I was like, Okay, Trump's gonna probably try to
Speaker 5: start a war with Iran. Because when he was running
Speaker 5: for office and it seemed like he was going to
Speaker 5: stop or prevent the war with Russian Ukraine that they'd
Speaker 5: been boiling and trying to do for a decade, everything
Speaker 5: was Russia. Bernie Sanders supporters were Russians. Trump grandma's were Russians,
Speaker 5: people in Alabama were Russians. The media was Russians, you
Speaker 5: gotta shut down rt They just went Russia, Russia, Russia
Speaker 5: like Marsha, Marsham, Marsha, because they wanted to start a
Speaker 5: war with Russia. Once they got that war, when Biden
Speaker 5: got in office, now everything's Iran instead of Russia hacking
Speaker 5: are power.
Speaker 4: Graded's Iran did this? I ran did that.
Speaker 5: So when you have a shooter that has a lot
Speaker 5: of connections to another country and Trump just sits there
Speaker 5: and repeats what you can almost guarantee, the intelligence communities
Speaker 5: and the deep state or whatever you want to call
Speaker 5: it told him, I'm like, Okay, this guy's not he's
Speaker 5: not serious, but you know it's it's him versus Biden.
Speaker 5: Obviously we only had so much choice. I'm not going
Speaker 5: to make a claim that I don't know, but everything
Speaker 5: I just stated, That's what I wanted to say. As
Speaker 5: far as what Trump does, how he handles it, it's
Speaker 5: a complex issue.
Speaker 4: Time will tell that's the only real answer.
Speaker 2: No, of course, and let me let me cut off
Speaker 2: my detractors and say, you know, first and foremost I
Speaker 2: have I've defended Trump's bombastic rhetoric when it comes to
Speaker 2: talking shit to other countries. I've got a bigger button
Speaker 2: than you when he's talking to North Korea, or you know,
Speaker 2: you're gonna regret this, this will be the last thing
Speaker 2: you ever do. When he was talking to it Ron
Speaker 2: in his first term, and I said, look, this is
Speaker 2: his form of diplomacy, this is how he talks. I
Speaker 2: get that. So I'm not like being a snowflake about this.
Speaker 2: I understand this is Trump's preferred method of communicating foreign policy. However,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of signs here that give me
Speaker 2: greater concern. I never really feared that we were actually
Speaker 2: going to go to war with North Korea, first and
Speaker 2: foremost because they have nuclear weapons, and I don't think
Speaker 2: that Trump wanted to play that game. And then he
Speaker 2: actually proceeded to go and cross the DMZ and meet
Speaker 2: with him and do all sorts of great things. So
Speaker 2: maybe some great things come from this. I don't know.
Speaker 2: But your points are really well, well stated and really
Speaker 2: important for people to process. The other thing that'll add
Speaker 2: to it is that Lindsey Graham, of all people, flipped
Speaker 2: really hard on Zelensky and the Ukraine War just a
Speaker 2: couple weeks ago, and he had been the biggest booster
Speaker 2: for a decade and I'm not exaggerating. A full decade
Speaker 2: he had been boosting, you know, basically antagonism towards Russia.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, a couple of weeks ago, he
Speaker 2: flips on that and he starts going, oh, you know, Zelenski,
Speaker 2: He's you know, maybe we need to get new leadership
Speaker 2: in there. And I'm like, what's happening here? And then
Speaker 2: I started to think about it. I'm like, wait a second, Well,
Speaker 2: I wrote it off because he's facing a primary challenger,
Speaker 2: and I thought, maybe that's all it is, that the
Speaker 2: America First Movement is really powerful and he has to
Speaker 2: you know, acquiesce to them. Then I started to think
Speaker 2: about it. I'm like, wait a second. What if they've
Speaker 2: told mister Graham that they're going to pivot to the
Speaker 2: big dog, that they're going to pivot to Iran. That
Speaker 2: that's what I mean, That's what the Lindsay Grahams and
Speaker 2: the John mccains of the world have wanted for twenty
Speaker 2: five thirty years. So now I'm starting to think maybe
Speaker 2: that's the reason he backed off on the funding to Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Thomas Massey famously said a few days ago that look,
Speaker 2: we have to funnel fifty billion into the military industrial
Speaker 2: complex every single year, and it doesn't matter where the
Speaker 2: conflict is, They're going to get their bread. And once
Speaker 2: again Thomas Massey appears to be right. Am I reading
Speaker 2: too much into it? Or you think I'm onto something there?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: I mean when I posted what Thomas Massey said to
Speaker 5: my Facebook, which is an older Trump audience, I mean
Speaker 5: there's younger people too, but it's you know, it's Facebook,
Speaker 5: so there's going to be an older demographic.
Speaker 4: A lot of people really freaked out at the.
Speaker 5: Gall that Thomas Massey said that that this was for
Speaker 5: the military industrial complex. But when you look at Afghanistan,
Speaker 5: we spent decades, trillions of dollars in Afghanistan, we pulled
Speaker 5: out and within a year we were in a war
Speaker 5: with Ukraine. So it does seem that as soon as
Speaker 5: you pull out of one thing, that another thing starts.
Speaker 5: And even when it was with COVID, I think I
Speaker 5: can't remember the exact dates, but COVID Mania lasted four
Speaker 5: years and then to me it felt like it just
Speaker 5: had kind of finished off where they're like, all right,
Speaker 5: like let's go back to normal, and then like the
Speaker 5: next day it's like oh or with Ukraine. You know,
Speaker 5: it's fun that it does start to seem that way.
Speaker 5: And when it comes to Trump, he's an interesting character
Speaker 5: because he's so likable, and it does seem like he
Speaker 5: is counterculture in many ways. Even the JFK and Epstein files.
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people, including myself, don't think
Speaker 5: he's really going to release them. He said he's going
Speaker 5: tomorrow with the JFK files, but he'll probably be redacted
Speaker 5: if it's not that's great, But he didn't even have
Speaker 5: to say he was going to do that. If he
Speaker 5: didn't say he was going to release them, nobody would
Speaker 5: have talked about it. I think it was kind of
Speaker 5: dead in the water, like everybody had kind of moved
Speaker 5: on and been like, yeah, that's not coming out. So
Speaker 5: he's an interesting character, but it does feel like things
Speaker 5: kind of roll out at suspicious timing. So for example,
Speaker 5: the Ukraine war needed Joe Biden in office. I think
Speaker 5: Operation warp Speed in the fifteen days of slowly spread
Speaker 5: needed Trump in office. I don't think Republicans would have
Speaker 5: listened to Hillary. Now it's like Trump's the cleanup guy
Speaker 5: for Ukraine and possibly the starter for Iran.
Speaker 4: So maybe it's just spontaneous.
Speaker 5: But I don't think you're wrong or anyone else is
Speaker 5: wrong to suspect that this is just kind of somewhat
Speaker 5: of a show or Trump is doing deals with the neocons.
Speaker 5: I mean, he definitely is, but one could argue that
Speaker 5: this is a good deal. He's doing what he can.
Speaker 5: Me I don't like Lindsey Graham and the fact that
Speaker 5: Lindsay Graham likes Trump so much. Clearly they're striking some
Speaker 5: sort of a deal. Who knows what it is. It
Speaker 5: could be a primary deal, it could be like you said,
Speaker 5: I would get I would think that you're probably right
Speaker 5: that Trump's like, listen, the mother of all wars that
Speaker 5: every neo kon has been wanting for the last thirty
Speaker 5: years is on the horizon. And not to add too
Speaker 5: much because I want to let you talk, but the
Speaker 5: whole Syria thing, Trump seemed like he wanted to stop
Speaker 5: what happened in Syria. He was not able to. They
Speaker 5: got Bashir al ast out. That holds a lot of
Speaker 5: weight when it comes to the big war with Iran,
Speaker 5: and you know they're all interconnected. But I think that
Speaker 5: was a massive, massive move, and that happened within the
Speaker 5: last like six seven months.
Speaker 2: Here was what Trump said on the Camp paintroll when
Speaker 2: he was interviewed by Tim Poole. I look at your policies.
Speaker 2: I see secure the borders, bring jobs back.
Speaker 1: I look at the Democrats and many Republicans, and it's
Speaker 1: foreign war and foreign expansion.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 6: I think it's just a failed mentality.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 6: You can sell problems over a telephone and said, they
Speaker 6: start dropping bombs. I see recently they're dropping bombs all
Speaker 6: over yem And you don't have to do that. You
Speaker 6: can talk in such a way where they respect you
Speaker 6: and they listen to you. Victor Orburn of Hungary, you
Speaker 6: know the leader. They call him a strong man. Who
Speaker 6: cares if he's a strong man or not a strong man.
Speaker 6: He's a very powerful guy.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 6: The problem the world has is that Donald Trump is
Speaker 6: no longer president. When he was president, China didn't play around,
Speaker 6: Russia didn't play around, Nobody played around, and we had
Speaker 6: no problems. Today the whole world is.
Speaker 2: That was actually the same I think it was the
Speaker 2: same day or the day before I debated of a
Speaker 2: vig Ramaswami at LP national convention, because Tim was there
Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure that's when he got his opportunity
Speaker 2: to interview Trump, and in fact I know it is.
Speaker 2: It was the day prior. So that was the guy
Speaker 2: that was the guy I voted for, you know, that
Speaker 2: was the guy that I liked. I want to point
Speaker 2: out something that I think people need to be aware of,
Speaker 2: because I know most in my audience are very high
Speaker 2: level when it comes to geopolitics, but most people, like
Speaker 2: casual observers or listeners, are not Iran's top allies. Some
Speaker 2: of them are Russia, Yemen, Lebanon, and Syria. Syria has
Speaker 2: been toppled, Lebanon, Hezbola has been destroyed by the IDEF
Speaker 2: or at least damaged significantly. The US is now striking
Speaker 2: inside Yemen, and Russia has been bogged down in this
Speaker 2: multi year war against Ukraine, in which they've suffered, according
Speaker 2: to some people, hundreds of thousands of losses. Some say
Speaker 2: it's less. I'm not sure. I just wanted to point
Speaker 2: that out because if you were preparing to go to
Speaker 2: war with Iran, knowing that their ally network, and knowing
Speaker 2: what a serious fight you would have on your hands,
Speaker 2: exactly what has happened is exactly what I would advise,
Speaker 2: and I say, this is someone who's very anti war,
Speaker 2: but I would say, hey, let's topple the who. Let's
Speaker 2: topple Hesbola, Let's topple or damage putin. Let's get a
Speaker 2: sod out of power. Who's there. I mean, their top
Speaker 2: ally in Iran was a sad So all of those
Speaker 2: dominoes line up, and I'm like, this looks really really
Speaker 2: bad to steal men. The opposite side of this, you
Speaker 2: could argue that, you know, Trump, with his Miriam Adelson
Speaker 2: donations and everything else, he owes a lot to the
Speaker 2: Zionist cause, and he is trying to assuage them by saying,
Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about Iran. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to war with Iran because we've already you know, dismantled
Speaker 2: their entire alliance. I think that's the most optimistic for
Speaker 2: you that I can take on this. Any thoughts, I don't.
Speaker 5: Know, you know, as somebody who loves America, it would
Speaker 5: be nice if I were more naive or ignorant, perhaps
Speaker 5: where I could think, you know, we're doing the right thing.
Speaker 5: That's always a great default, like, yeah, we're at war,
Speaker 5: but we're on the right side. I mean, if you
Speaker 5: look at you know, after World War Two, we helped
Speaker 5: with the common Munists. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 5: we would say we help them, but we worked with
Speaker 5: them to some point establish the UN And then you know,
Speaker 5: the Russians got rid of the Bolsheviks and the Communists
Speaker 5: and they became Russia again after being basically infiltrated or
Speaker 5: taken over by Communists who killed millions of people. Now
Speaker 5: it's almost like reverse where Ukraine, in my view, are.
Speaker 4: The new Bolsheviks.
Speaker 5: The Bolsheviks and that sort of ideology has taken over
Speaker 5: nearly all of Europe, and now it's like almost the
Speaker 5: reverse where Russia does not have that, but it seems
Speaker 5: like we're working on the side that's trying to force
Speaker 5: that into Russia. You know, I love the West. I
Speaker 5: love America unapologetically, but if you look at America, our
Speaker 5: culture has been falling apart over the last couple of decades.
Speaker 4: Our border has been open.
Speaker 5: I would say, our schools have gotten worse, our inflation
Speaker 5: has gotten worse. I still love this country and it's
Speaker 5: a great country, but it's everybody thinks it's worse, most Democrats,
Speaker 5: most Republicans.
Speaker 4: You look at Europe.
Speaker 5: Everybody talks, including all the Republicans, they say Europe's falling apart.
Speaker 5: The UK is not the UK, Ireland's falling apart. McGregor's
Speaker 5: at the White House talking about it. Pretty much all
Speaker 5: of Europe is in shambles. And then if you look
Speaker 5: at parts of Europe that aren't in shambles, let's go
Speaker 5: to Poland, who's actually our ally. Well, now, Poland's getting
Speaker 5: screwed over because of the Ukraine War. They've taken in
Speaker 5: I think hundreds of thousands or millions of Ukrainian immigrants,
Speaker 5: and these people are taking up the welfare programs, they're
Speaker 5: not assimilating.
Speaker 4: People are saying they're being rude.
Speaker 5: So now, and they elected some Donald Tusk character who's
Speaker 5: you know, it seems like a sneak. So it's like
Speaker 5: that was the one ally that isn't completely destroyed. Now
Speaker 5: let's look at like Russia. You know, I'm not saying
Speaker 5: they're perfect, I'm not saying I like them or whatever,
Speaker 5: but it's like they're, you know, a Catholic nation. They're
Speaker 5: not completely destroyed by LGBTQ plus plus plus XYZWX and
Speaker 5: all these like globalist EU sort of policies of open borders,
Speaker 5: and what do you know, America's funding the Bolsheviks to
Speaker 5: you know, attack them. So when it comes to Iran,
Speaker 5: it's like, I'm not a fan of Iran. I'm not Muslim,
Speaker 5: I'm not Iran, I'm not from there. I have no
Speaker 5: connection to their culture and no offense to the people there.
Speaker 4: God bless them.
Speaker 5: But you know, I'm not in any rush to join,
Speaker 5: for lack of a better word, but to think.
Speaker 4: That we're right here.
Speaker 5: We were wrong in Afghanistan, we were wrong in Syria.
Speaker 5: Everything that myself, Tulsy Gabbard and probably you said happened.
Speaker 5: We were wrong in Libya. We've destroyed Europe, We've destroyed America.
Speaker 5: The Western world is in shambles. But this time it's
Speaker 5: just going to be a moral war because Donald Trump
Speaker 5: and his donors say so, and the neocons and finally,
Speaker 5: you know, the left wing warhawks and neoliberals, the Lindsey
Speaker 5: Grahams and the John Boltons and Donald Trump. They're all
Speaker 5: on the same page on this one.
Speaker 4: To help you. I mean, it's possible, but I would
Speaker 4: say it's.
Speaker 5: In like you, you know, I would like I said,
Speaker 5: I wish I were ignorant enough to believe that, but
Speaker 5: I'm not. I think we're ruining almost everything we touch.
Speaker 5: And it's sad because I like America, but the West
Speaker 5: is and shamble America's and Stanbuls. And if you find
Speaker 5: a country that's not totally you know, caving to feminism
Speaker 5: and Bolshevik ideology, you could find an enemy of the
Speaker 5: United States, or at least whoever's puppeting our country right now,
Speaker 5: because it's probably not even us.
Speaker 2: Well, this is a really important point. The the Yemenis,
Speaker 2: the Huthis, which are really the I mean, they were
Speaker 2: a rebel faction. They took over their country in twenty thirteen, fourteen,
Speaker 2: I believe. Ever since then there was basically a civil war,
Speaker 2: and then there was also the Saudi bombing campaign against
Speaker 2: their government. They perceived themselves to be a liberation movement
Speaker 2: against the control of Saudis, Israel, whatever. But the reason
Speaker 2: that they're attacking our ships, or the reason that they've
Speaker 2: been so you know, threatening towards America, is because America
Speaker 2: has won spent a better part of a decade arming
Speaker 2: and funding the Saudis in that bombing campaign against the Menis. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they kept receipts on that. They know that that happened.
Speaker 2: They're not very happy with us about that. So that's
Speaker 2: you know, step one, step two. And the one that
Speaker 2: really has them upset is that the US backed the
Speaker 2: Israelis in their siege on Gaza. And as a consequence
Speaker 2: of that, the Umni's, the Houthis in particular, said over
Speaker 2: and over again they said, look, we're not a real
Speaker 2: fighting force here. I mean, they talk a lot of shit,
Speaker 2: but like we're not able to take on America, but
Speaker 2: we can fucking make your life hell on the Red Sea.
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna blow up your ships and we're gonna
Speaker 2: make it really hard for you know, shipping routes. And
Speaker 2: their only demand, get this, Their only demand was that
Speaker 2: you cannot siege Gaza. And then there was a ceasefire
Speaker 2: that was negotiated with Trump's you know, Envoy was responsible
Speaker 2: for getting that deal signed and I was very grateful
Speaker 2: for it. The Israelis immediately renig on it and they
Speaker 2: take the aid and food and you know, water and
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of other stuff away from the gozzins
Speaker 2: once again. So the Houthis then start firing on our
Speaker 2: ships again. This is all like a direct response to
Speaker 2: is Israel's actions. This isn't this isn't about the US.
Speaker 2: The Houthis are pissed at Israel. The Houthis are trying
Speaker 2: to defend the gozens who are there, who are some
Speaker 2: of their allies. I mean, it's just it's just so
Speaker 2: irritating that the narrative that and your point earlier about
Speaker 2: how if you were going to start a war with Iron,
Speaker 2: you couldn't do it with Kamala Harris, you couldn't do
Speaker 2: it with Joe Biden, but you could do it with
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. It's so important that people understand that because
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what's happening, is that, like they
Speaker 2: would never buy the argument that our ships are being attacked,
Speaker 2: you know, and we have to take out these who
Speaker 2: thieves to defend shipping lanes, if it was Kamala Harris
Speaker 2: saying it. But Donald Trump says it, and they just go, yeah,
Speaker 2: history started today. That's That's all I need to hear.
Speaker 5: Before I add more, I want to ask you a
Speaker 5: question because you were mentioning that Saudi's are fighting in
Speaker 5: Yemen or against them. I don't know if they're directly
Speaker 5: doing it or funding it you named America, one of
Speaker 5: the richest, most powerful countries in the world with the
Speaker 5: biggest military, Saudi Arabia, who is easily one of the
Speaker 5: richest countries with the wealthiest people in the Middle East,
Speaker 5: and then Israel, which, if it's not Saudi Arabia or UAE,
Speaker 5: I would guess Israel's up there with powerful, you know,
Speaker 5: a lot capability. So is Do you think that the US,
Speaker 5: Saudi and Israel are just thinking like these people can't
Speaker 5: do anything, like the Huthis obviously stand no chance against
Speaker 5: those three countries, and then even with Iran, I mean,
Speaker 5: it only gets interesting, I would I don't know if
Speaker 5: i'd say interesting, but it only gets debatable if Russia
Speaker 5: or China kind of got involved. But do you think
Speaker 5: that's what our allies are thinking, like, these people stand
Speaker 5: no chance, Well, we'll do whatever we need to do
Speaker 5: the Houthis and if Iran steps up, you know they
Speaker 5: can't compete with America Israel, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean it's obviously true. But then
Speaker 2: add to it that Yemen, the Mns are the poorest
Speaker 2: people in the Middle East. They are the absolute poorest.
Speaker 2: Hundreds of thousands of their kids starved to death over
Speaker 2: the past decade as a consequence of this siege. So
Speaker 2: I mean they have been treated with basic I mean,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's as bad, but it's pretty fucking close.
Speaker 2: What's happened to the Umenis is what's happened to the Gozens.
Speaker 2: And yes, I know October seventh happened. I'm not diminishing
Speaker 2: any of that, Okay, I'm just saying these people have
Speaker 2: suffered terribly and they are the poorest in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: So yes, your point is well taken. Yet the Alliance
Speaker 2: is overwhelmingly powerful comparatively.
Speaker 5: Like Trump said to Zelensky, you don't have the cards
Speaker 5: right now. You know, he left his charge art at home,
Speaker 5: so he didn't have the cards to be Trump in
Speaker 5: the Pokemon battle. But do you think that's how Trump
Speaker 5: and everybody feels about Yemen, where you know, can they
Speaker 5: attack shifts?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 5: But you know is that Trump's logical response where he's like,
Speaker 5: you could you could do that, but He's like, I
Speaker 5: could also do bigger things.
Speaker 4: So you know, like, do you think that they will chill.
Speaker 5: Out because he said that because they're so outmatched, or
Speaker 5: do you think that it'll turn into what my question
Speaker 5: is what's your concern in the sense of is your
Speaker 5: concern Obviously you're concerned with the lives there and people
Speaker 5: who've been done wrong, but also do you think it
Speaker 5: could end up like an Afghanistan situation where we just
Speaker 5: spent twenty years and running circles, or do you think
Speaker 5: it's just gonna drag a bigger war that has massive consequences.
Speaker 2: That's the concern for me, Yeah, I mean sure. My
Speaker 2: secondary concern is the lives that are being lost, I mean,
Speaker 2: and that for many people that would be their first concern.
Speaker 2: My first concern is still America and Americans, So that's
Speaker 2: my primary concern here is that if you end up
Speaker 2: in a war with Yemen and Iran gets involved, let
Speaker 2: me just do this because it's really important that people understand.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not being hyperbolic here. Let nobody be fooled.
Speaker 2: The hundreds of attacks being made by Huthi, the sinister
Speaker 2: mobsters and thugs based in Yemen, who are hated by
Speaker 2: the many people that's not true, all emanate from and
Speaker 2: are created by Iran. Any further attack or retaliation by
Speaker 2: the Houthis will be met with great force, and there
Speaker 2: is no guarantee that that force will stop there. Iran
Speaker 2: has played the innocent victim of rogue terrorists from which
Speaker 2: they've lost control. But they haven't lost control. They're dictating
Speaker 2: every move, giving them the weapons, supplying them with money
Speaker 2: and highly sophisticated military equipment and even so called intelligence.
Speaker 2: Every shot fired by the Houthis will be looked upon
Speaker 2: from this point for is being a shot fired from
Speaker 2: the weapons and leadership of Iran, and Iran will be
Speaker 2: held responsible and suffer the consequences, and those consequences will
Speaker 2: be dire. Donald J.
Speaker 4: Trump, So do you not?
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously I know you to know that you
Speaker 5: don't like that statement. But is your issue with this
Speaker 5: statement not just that he's playing hardball, but that he's
Speaker 5: blaming a whole other country like you know, as I like,
Speaker 5: because even America we have all these allies, but I
Speaker 5: don't think we have any say over what Israel does.
Speaker 4: I think it's really reverse, you know, to a large extent.
Speaker 5: But even our greatest allies and Canada or whoever, No,
Speaker 5: but we don't have total control over what they do.
Speaker 5: Like even now, all our allies seem to be disagreeing
Speaker 5: with us, and almost everything so is that year it
Speaker 5: too that he's basically saying, like, control them, even though
Speaker 5: they they're allies, but I'm sure that they don't have
Speaker 5: total say so.
Speaker 2: Yeah they don't. I mean think about Ukraine for instance,
Speaker 2: Like Ukraine has been funded to the tune of a
Speaker 2: couple hundred billion dollars from the US and a couple
Speaker 2: hundred billion more from the EU. Like, but we still
Speaker 2: can't dictate exactly what Zelensky does or who he attacks
Speaker 2: or how he attacks, and so it's just it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And then also extrapolate that logic. I mean, if you're
Speaker 2: going to argue that because Iran is arming and funding
Speaker 2: the Huthis, which I think is true to a certain extent,
Speaker 2: that they're then they're culpable for everything that the Huthies do. Well,
Speaker 2: then what the fuck does Russia have to say about
Speaker 2: our arming and funding of Ukraine for the past two
Speaker 2: and a half years or three years? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a direct Then then he basically putin could say, hey,
Speaker 2: just hold up that truth social posts from Trump and say, yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys have been striking my country for the past
Speaker 2: three years. We're at war now, and it's just it's hypocritical,
Speaker 2: and I know, because we're the most powerful world allowed
Speaker 2: to be hypocrites, but it's just fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 5: I'm not as educated on the ym and stuff. That's
Speaker 5: why I wanted to ask you questions kind of get
Speaker 5: into it. I know they are alignments, et cetera, but
Speaker 5: I'm not too deep into what's been going on there.
Speaker 5: With that being said, I guess my concern is this,
Speaker 5: although obviously human lives are always a concern and people
Speaker 5: being hypocrites, but you know, what we've been told by
Speaker 5: the left mostly but also neocons is in Ukraine that
Speaker 5: this is for our best interests. I think Zelenski and
Speaker 5: his backers are the new Bolsheviks, and I think that
Speaker 5: they're trying to do what they did to Russia before. Like,
Speaker 5: I think it's ridiculous. I think it's against our interests.
Speaker 5: I think it's against Russia's interests. I think it's against
Speaker 5: Europe's interests. I think it's only hurt literally, I mean
Speaker 5: it hurt Germany because of certain things that happened, because
Speaker 5: of the world. Like, I don't really think it's benefited anybody.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's benefited Ukrainians. You know, I can't
Speaker 5: think of a single person that it has benefited except
Speaker 5: for people that wants to get Europeans killed and destroyed.
Speaker 5: Like that's the only thing I could really even think of.
Speaker 5: That's what I think when it comes to what we've
Speaker 5: done in the Middle East, Like, you know, we were
Speaker 5: told and this is I try to push this point
Speaker 5: because a lot of people are missing this angle because
Speaker 5: they're seeing like Trump or not Trump.
Speaker 4: This is not an attack on Trump. This is just the.
Speaker 5: Reality of American foreign politics. You know, they told us
Speaker 5: that al Qaeda did nine to eleven, and everybody, hey,
Speaker 5: al Qaeda in America, understandable, rightfully, So like we got
Speaker 5: to go after al Qaeda because they attacked us on
Speaker 5: our own soil. Ten years later, a former al Qaeda
Speaker 5: member runs Syria because the United States and our allies
Speaker 5: have been funding rebel groups and terrorist groups in Syria.
Speaker 5: So like, I'm trying to get along with with Normies
Speaker 5: and Republicans, but it's hard because it's you know, I'm
Speaker 5: not trying to act like I'm so great or anything,
Speaker 5: but it's it's like they're missing so many points of
Speaker 5: the story. It's like you should hate al Qaeda because
Speaker 5: of what happened and you know everything, Yet you're ignoring
Speaker 5: the fact that our taxpayer dollars funded terrorists to let
Speaker 5: an al Qaeda member literally take over Syria, and nobody's
Speaker 5: talking about it. Is that good for our foreign policy
Speaker 5: to let an al Qaeda member take over a country
Speaker 5: when we were told they attacked us on nine to eleven?
Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody cares.
Speaker 5: In all these Republicans talking about my mood Khalil, you know,
Speaker 5: there's a there's a whole other conversation about that because
Speaker 5: it is kind of a legal president and an interesting
Speaker 5: cultural conversation to have. But the real thing is, like,
Speaker 5: let's just say he's everything that Republicans think he is.
Speaker 4: He's the worst person in the world. He's doing all
Speaker 4: these things.
Speaker 5: Is he worse than the al Qaeda member who's running
Speaker 5: Syria with the help of our Like so it's like,
Speaker 5: I just you know, and then they're going after Like
Speaker 5: I just saw a Jewish student got expelled from Columbia.
Speaker 5: He was Jewish because he had led a protest and
Speaker 5: perhaps he broke a rule or like went into a classroom.
Speaker 5: I didn't fully look into it, but it's like, let's
Speaker 5: just say he's the worst left wing protester of all time?
Speaker 5: Is this Jewish American who's not pro Israel worse than
Speaker 5: the al Qaida member that's running Syria. Like, So it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, they say that Trump administration is going after
Speaker 5: all these terrorists, yet in reality, in my opinion, he's
Speaker 5: just using the word terrorists like George Bush and just
Speaker 5: basically trying to quash any criticism of his war. So,
Speaker 5: for example, let's just say he's completely wrong about the war.
Speaker 5: Let's just say you're completely right, not saying are, But
Speaker 5: that's hypothetical, right, Trump administration would probably consider and I'm
Speaker 5: not trying to like throw the slave on you, but
Speaker 5: they'd probably consider you some sort of pro like they're
Speaker 5: they're using these word so loosely. They're calling Darryl Cooper
Speaker 5: he's not that word, but he's that word apologist, And
Speaker 5: they're trying to get all these labels to stick so
Speaker 5: they could censor and shut people up and get people
Speaker 5: in trouble. So it's like, even if all these things
Speaker 5: were true, I can't stand the fact that Trump is
Speaker 5: now using every agency in the government to essentially police
Speaker 5: hate speech against the country that you know, we're absolutely
Speaker 5: at war with and it's like I can't say that,
Speaker 5: or I'm saying we're in a war with them as
Speaker 5: our ally, but it's like I can't even say that
Speaker 5: country controls my country. That's considered hate speech under Trump's
Speaker 5: little anti semitism rules. And it's like, you know, we're
Speaker 5: fighting all these wars, and now they're trying to recap
Speaker 5: American citizens who speak out against them by over using
Speaker 5: the word terrorists and saying that everyone is that it's
Speaker 5: a it's just a I knew Trump was going to
Speaker 5: do certain things, but once again, I think he even
Speaker 5: exceeded or under whatever, over or under whichever way you're going,
Speaker 5: like my expectations, he has done even worse. Like I,
Speaker 5: I gave them a lot of leeway, and I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't expect, you know, RFK Junior to be looking
Speaker 5: for anti Semitism and Frreddy pebbles, but you know, here
Speaker 5: we are.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like, no, apparently that's what dude, and
Speaker 4: real quick. Sorry.
Speaker 5: I saw two articles, one that said that they stopped
Speaker 5: I think it was Herrets that reported Israeli publication that
Speaker 5: there were reports that the United States stopped doing human
Speaker 5: trafficking and stuff with ice in order to look into
Speaker 5: anti Semitism. And then I saw another article that said
Speaker 5: that the United States had some like legal battles with people, uh,
Speaker 5: people with disabilities that have been discriminated against, and they
Speaker 5: paused those in order to you know, basically monitor the
Speaker 5: Internet or for anti Semitisms.
Speaker 4: It's like it's you know, it's uh, yeah.
Speaker 2: Who the priorities are at right right? Just to give
Speaker 2: you an example, like when this when the first rumors
Speaker 2: of strikes against Yem and started a couple days ago,
Speaker 2: I tweeted out the lie we're bombing Yem to defend
Speaker 2: US shipping lines the truth the US back to the
Speaker 2: Saudias in bombing Yemen for a decade, and then back
Speaker 2: to Israel and their war on Gaza, which is an
Speaker 2: ally to Yemen. The who these attacks or response to
Speaker 2: what the US and Israel did, It's pretty hard to
Speaker 2: argue that this is defensive. If anything, this is all
Speaker 2: in the defense of Israel. Support it if you want,
Speaker 2: but just be sure you know the circumstances that got
Speaker 2: us here. Narratives at the outset of war are always
Speaker 2: overly simplistic because they only served to galvanized support for
Speaker 2: the attacks. Please just think for yourself. I got I mean, dozens,
Speaker 2: maybe hundreds of absolutely furious replies to that from Trump
Speaker 2: supporters who are like, like, you're oversimplified. It's like, no, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm not oversimplified. Well, of course I'm oversimplifying. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about fifteen years of fucking history in a region that's
Speaker 2: not my own. Yes, I'm simplifying. But the reason I
Speaker 2: put that post out is because I wanted to get
Speaker 2: it out early so that the people that just are hearing, oh,
Speaker 2: they're attacking our navy ships. Of course we have to
Speaker 2: fucking blow them to smithereens like, there's more to this.
Speaker 2: The history matters, the lead up to this matters. It
Speaker 2: would be like, I mean, it's the exact same thing
Speaker 2: that happened after nine to eleven. It was just like, well,
Speaker 2: it kind of attacked us for our freedoms there. They
Speaker 2: had no gripes. Again, they had no legitimate gripes against this.
Speaker 2: It's like if I explained to you the gripes that
Speaker 2: Osama bin Laden had against the United States, that does
Speaker 2: not mean that he was right to do what he did.
Speaker 2: I'm just explaining that there is a CIA term known
Speaker 2: as blowback. And there's a reason these people fucking hate us,
Speaker 2: and it ain't because of our freedoms. It's because of
Speaker 2: our bombs and our and our our sanctioned regime and
Speaker 2: our uh, you know, our blockades that killed hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of Iraqi kids. That that has kept Gaza from
Speaker 2: you know, or from the Palestinians from being free forever.
Speaker 2: They have a lot of justification. I just think that,
Speaker 2: like that was the aspect of the America first uh,
Speaker 2: you know, non interventionist Trump round two camp that I
Speaker 2: fell into that I liked a lot. That gave me
Speaker 2: hope that like, Okay, we just went through twenty years
Speaker 2: of unconstitutional, illegal emor wars predicated off of lies. You
Speaker 2: guys know what's up. Many of you fought in it.
Speaker 2: I know you guys are not going to fall for
Speaker 2: the next fucking trap. And I think most of the
Speaker 2: Vets aren't falling for this trap. But I think a
Speaker 2: lot of Trump supporters that aren't Vets are just looking
Speaker 2: at this going like they fucking attacked our ships. Fuck
Speaker 2: these people, let's blow them up. And it's just not
Speaker 2: that simple.
Speaker 5: Well, one thing I learned the first term, because I'm
Speaker 5: usually on page with a lot of people. As soon
Speaker 5: as the lockdowns and operation works became and I know
Speaker 5: people could rewrite history, et cetera. But like most people,
Speaker 5: instead of logically thinking about it, And I use an
Speaker 5: example on my podcast, I said, you know, I've been
Speaker 5: trying to study and get good at trivia.
Speaker 4: I'd like to be on Jeopardy one day.
Speaker 5: I'm not smart enough now, but I'm trying to learn
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff I learned by reading for myself,
Speaker 5: not by listening to like what other random people say.
Speaker 5: So I'll give an example. The largest bird in the
Speaker 5: world is an ostrich. The smallest bird in the world
Speaker 5: is a hummingbird or a be hummingbird. Right. Imagine if
Speaker 5: Trump was on stage and he said the biggest birds
Speaker 5: a penguin. The smallest bird is a bluebird, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: that's not true, and people go, well, why do you
Speaker 5: think that. I'm like, well, because I do my own
Speaker 5: research outside.
Speaker 4: Of what he said.
Speaker 5: But he's like, but maybe he means this, and it's
Speaker 5: like or maybe he's just wrong. So it's like it's
Speaker 5: the same sort of logic. Is the reason I got
Speaker 5: the pandemic right, and a lot of Trump supporters got
Speaker 5: it wrong. Is because my I'm not going off of
Speaker 5: what Trump says and then trying to figure out how
Speaker 5: to make an excuse for it. I'm my own person
Speaker 5: who just so happens to line up with Trump a
Speaker 5: lot at the time. But when I don't, I'm confident
Speaker 5: in my approach because I'm researching and reading and learning
Speaker 5: on my own. So you know, I've already seen how
Speaker 5: all these and in Unison, even when Trump ran against DeSantis,
Speaker 5: I don't trust DeSantis. I didn't vote for DeSantis, to
Speaker 5: be honest. I don't even really like Dessenttis, but I
Speaker 5: do reporting. So Trump would lie about the vaccine, DeSantis
Speaker 5: would say something honest, and I'd be like, why did
Speaker 5: Trump lie about that? Or Trump move to Florida and
Speaker 5: then he posted this thing where he's like Florida is
Speaker 5: one of the worst states to do this, worst states
Speaker 5: to be a cop. We're like, he was just shitting
Speaker 5: on Florida, and I was like, why did you move
Speaker 5: there if it's so bad? You know, it's crazy. But
Speaker 5: people got so mad at me because it's like all
Speaker 5: the Trump supporters they just say the same three things
Speaker 5: in a loop when they're just in that like group thing.
Speaker 5: So you know, I'm not going to lie and act
Speaker 5: like I'm really educated completely on the Yemen situation, but
Speaker 5: I have no doubt in my mind that most people
Speaker 5: are not even logically or rationally thinking about it. They're
Speaker 5: literally just defending and doing whatever he says. And you know,
Speaker 5: with the Israel and Palestine situation, there's a few things
Speaker 5: I want to say real quick that have become really
Speaker 5: alarming to me, where I think the the Zionist Israel
Speaker 5: side is becoming like really emboldened in what they're doing
Speaker 5: and saying, and it's getting just a little weird for me,
Speaker 5: who has always said they have a right to exist.
Speaker 5: And I understand why, like you know, I understand why
Speaker 5: they'd want to do what they do. But I'm an
Speaker 5: American citistant and I should be allowed to say that
Speaker 5: I don't agree if my taxpayer dollars are going there, etc.
Speaker 5: The speech laws. So I've been very reasonable. Yeah, I've
Speaker 5: been called names a million times. They've been the rudest
Speaker 5: people to me, but whatever, I've seen an evolution in
Speaker 5: their thoughts where if you're just paying attention no matter
Speaker 5: how pro Israel you are you know, certain people are
Speaker 5: lying because five six years ago they said, we just
Speaker 5: want to exist. They made all sorts of like prager
Speaker 5: usque style videos where they're like, literally, Israel's a small
Speaker 5: little thing and all they want to do is just
Speaker 5: keep it and everybody's attacking them, and all they did
Speaker 5: want to do is keep it. And it's like, I
Speaker 5: believe that in twenty nineteen and twenty eighteen. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's reasonable. Why are they doing that? But now they're
Speaker 5: all saying, well, Palestine doesn't even exist, which then gives
Speaker 5: them justification.
Speaker 4: To take all of it.
Speaker 5: So it's like, if you believe that now, did you
Speaker 5: also believe that then? And were you just not telling
Speaker 5: us because you knew it would sound extreme. So it's
Speaker 5: like this incremental thing they're doing where I've seen them
Speaker 5: dehumanize the entire people there, where they're like, you know,
Speaker 5: I've watched multiple videos people making on Instagram, etc. These
Speaker 5: propaganda style videos where they go, you know, I used
Speaker 5: to think that most Palestinians were innocent, but now I've
Speaker 5: come to the conclusion that most of them are not,
Speaker 5: and most of them are in on it. So now
Speaker 5: they're justifying basically just killing everybody in Palestine because they're like,
Speaker 5: even if they're not all warriors, even the women's and kids,
Speaker 5: they're all Hamas. Let's kill them all. And then it's
Speaker 5: like that's kind of extreme. That's a new era of
Speaker 5: war that was not normal five or ten years ago.
Speaker 5: And they've used certain events as like a president to
Speaker 5: do that. And then you look in the United States,
Speaker 5: where I've read the anti Semitism rules for years and
Speaker 5: all these pro Israel boy like, it's like, you can't
Speaker 5: do anything in this country without pledging allegiance to Israel.
Speaker 5: If you're a United States government, you know, trying to
Speaker 5: get a grant with the US or a government grant,
Speaker 5: you need to prove your loyalty to Israel, not America.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 5: So it's like with all of these things right now,
Speaker 5: Trump is you know, are you accurately pointing out Hamas
Speaker 5: and being like that's Amas and that's not know what
Speaker 5: they're saying is they're Hamas, the kids are Hamas, the
Speaker 5: women are Harmas. Everybody who's supporting them are Hamas. You're
Speaker 5: all Hamas, and you're a terrorist. And terrorists don't have
Speaker 5: the First Amendment. First, they started with the green card,
Speaker 5: and all the lemmings said, well, it's just because he
Speaker 5: has a green card. I mean, yeah, he's never committed
Speaker 5: a crime and he's a legal citizen.
Speaker 4: But he said this.
Speaker 5: He said that, So now you're saying people with the
Speaker 5: green card don't have the First Amendment even if they
Speaker 5: didn't commit a crime. Never heard that before, but it's
Speaker 5: an interesting legal president. Okay, two days later, I think
Speaker 5: it was in Reuters, it came out to say that
Speaker 5: the Justice Department is now looking into US citizens to
Speaker 5: see which one of them broke a terrorist act, because
Speaker 5: now they're calling them all terrorists. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 5: they could call Trump a terrorists for siding with Russia
Speaker 5: over Ukraine because you know, Ukraine is our ally and
Speaker 5: Russia has killed people in war and invaded a country.
Speaker 5: What's stopping you Russia from being labeled a terrorist organization?
Speaker 5: One they're too big, they're too rich, they're too powerful,
Speaker 5: and you know, unfortunately America can't. But if they were smaller,
Speaker 5: America would just label them a terrorist organization and they
Speaker 5: would say that Putin is a Rowe extremist dictator, and
Speaker 5: then it would make all criticism of Ukraine a terrorist act.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's so obvious.
Speaker 5: To me what the Trump administration is doing and what
Speaker 5: those type of people are doing. So, you know, in Yemen,
Speaker 5: I'm not familiar with it, but I'm guessing that's the
Speaker 5: narrative too. For a while, they're probably doing a lot
Speaker 5: of bombing, a lot of fighting with the hoo thies.
Speaker 5: And now that they've brainwashed everybody on the television to
Speaker 5: justify basically slaughtering an entire population in another country, they're
Speaker 5: probably thinking, like, what's what's gonna stop us from doing
Speaker 5: that here, Let's let's ramp it up because all these
Speaker 5: provisions that we had a few years ago, like we
Speaker 5: probably shouldn't do that, now they're like, no, we probably,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 4: And here's the part that I just need to remind people.
Speaker 5: You know, all this funding in Ukraine, like and all
Speaker 5: this funding in Israel and all this funding in the
Speaker 5: Middle East, it's like things are really ramping up. So
Speaker 5: you know, it's just it's not it's not fun for anybody,
Speaker 5: but it's also just like I see the extreme, like
Speaker 5: when people are at war and their countries are going
Speaker 5: to war, and hundreds of thousands of people are dying,
Speaker 5: they feel a lot more entitled to do a lot
Speaker 5: crazier stuff that in a safe peace time would not
Speaker 5: really be happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and what concerns me is that, I mean,
Speaker 2: the Trump supporters in particular ought to be able to
Speaker 2: see through this shit at this point, after the Global
Speaker 2: war and tear all of the seat of WMDs and
Speaker 2: everything else. They ought to understand that they're being lied
Speaker 2: to at the outset of a new war. They figured
Speaker 2: it out with the Russia Ukraine War. But apparently when
Speaker 2: it comes to Israel Palestine they can't figure it out.
Speaker 2: When it comes to Yemen, they can't figure it out.
Speaker 2: Oh it's like, oh, anytime that the you know, antagonist
Speaker 2: in the situation is in fact Israel, suddenly their media
Speaker 2: sphere doesn't allow them to figure it out. Interesting how
Speaker 2: that works, right, But I'm just just noticing patterns here.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's very frustrating because like, just
Speaker 2: imagine if you were born in Yemen in two thousand
Speaker 2: and five and you've just spent the past twenty years
Speaker 2: being or you know, half of your life. So from
Speaker 2: the time you were ten it was like semi peaceful,
Speaker 2: and then ever since then up to manhood, you've just
Speaker 2: been getting bombed and starved. Do you think that you'd
Speaker 2: be a fucking cool person or do you think that
Speaker 2: you'd be an absolute savage because you had to survive hell,
Speaker 2: like you would probably have to be really, really tough. So, like,
Speaker 2: the point I'm trying to get to is like the
Speaker 2: US participated, they walked hand in hand with the Saudis
Speaker 2: in destroying Yemen for the past decade. They've created a
Speaker 2: really militaristic, really savage group of people. And then they go, oh, well,
Speaker 2: now we have a reason for war because they're attacking
Speaker 2: our ships. And it's like, well, you fucking you started
Speaker 2: this process. It's the same thing that the Israelis did
Speaker 2: to the to the Gosans. It's like, well, you siege
Speaker 2: these people for fucking fifty years. Do you think that
Speaker 2: you have no culpability in this? Like, yeah, okay, sure,
Speaker 2: they have become violent terrorists. I agree with you. Where
Speaker 2: is the culpability on your side? And it's just it's
Speaker 2: so frustrating that that message, saying that message has people
Speaker 2: accused me of saying, well, these you're arguing that these
Speaker 2: people are good and moral and blah blah blah. It's like,
Speaker 2: that's not what I'm fucking saying. I'm saying what they
Speaker 2: did on October seventh was fucking evil. And if the
Speaker 2: Many strike our ships, I think you ought to fucking
Speaker 2: blow them up. Like I'm just being straight with you,
Speaker 2: But we need to understand the history. We have to
Speaker 2: understand the history if we're going to stop this cycle
Speaker 2: of death and destruction and you know, bankrupt ourselves. And
Speaker 2: I just, instead of getting a rational response from most people,
Speaker 2: response as usual is oh, you're a fucking houthy sympathizer.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like, no, I'm not.
Speaker 5: I saw the response Twitter, like the worst people on
Speaker 5: Twitter to Darryl Cooper on Joe Rogan, and then I
Speaker 5: listened to the episode and I was like, so, I
Speaker 5: felt like I felt like he was playing it pretty safe,
Speaker 5: and I felt like he explained himself pretty their, Like
Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be crazier, Like when
Speaker 5: I listened to it, I thought he played it more
Speaker 5: than safe. So I'm like, Jesus, that's crazy that they
Speaker 5: overreacted that way. But you know, it's like the psychology
Speaker 5: of a situation. You know, in order to be good
Speaker 5: at reading other people. You have to be able to
Speaker 5: understand their side, not justifying it, but understand it, and
Speaker 5: some people are not trying to do that. With that
Speaker 5: being said, you know, in Yemen, I think I'm not
Speaker 5: saying I don't think it ever would have been no
Speaker 5: offense to them, but I don't ever think it would
Speaker 5: have been like a budding society. And I'm sure they
Speaker 5: would have had their own problems. But this is the
Speaker 5: issue when America gets involved, and it almost sounds like
Speaker 5: a liberal talking point when libertarians say it, or I
Speaker 5: say it, or Thomas Massy or someone says it, like
Speaker 5: I understand how it comes across liberal because I even
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago I.
Speaker 4: Was thinking that was like more left wing.
Speaker 5: But it's like, I'm not a self hating American who
Speaker 5: thinks that all of these societies would have been great.
Speaker 5: But if you really look into stuff, like I believe
Speaker 5: that we made Syria worse.
Speaker 4: Was Syria perfect?
Speaker 5: No, But I think objectively we made it worse, and
Speaker 5: now aw kaieda member lead it Libya, I absolutely think
Speaker 5: we made worse. You know, all the videos I've been
Speaker 5: seeing a Gadafi it's it's clear why they wanted to
Speaker 5: off him like he was just he was just being
Speaker 5: very blunt and very straightforward. He was like a Libyan
Speaker 5: version of Trump, really just talking shit telling everybody. Except
Speaker 5: the difference is Trump's a billionaire from America with connections,
Speaker 5: and like the Gadafi is an African leader with no
Speaker 5: you know, he didn't have that type of connection. So
Speaker 5: they off Gadafi and then it left the slave trade there.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think Russia's great, but I think
Speaker 5: what we're doing. We've destroyed Ukraine, We've we've slaughtered how
Speaker 5: many Ukrainian soldiers.
Speaker 4: To you know, this war.
Speaker 5: All of Europe is messed up, and I'm not taking
Speaker 5: full blame for that. But America in the fifty sixty seventies,
Speaker 5: like we were the leader. We are the cool country
Speaker 5: that everybody looks up to and tries to be like.
Speaker 5: And you know, the USAID, I think is just one
Speaker 5: side of that, just showing how we've kind of bankrolled
Speaker 5: just the destruction of the entire world. So like it sounds,
Speaker 5: I get it to Republicans, it sounds like a self
Speaker 5: hating liberal where you're like blaming America for all these
Speaker 5: other countries. And once again I don't think Yemen would
Speaker 5: have ever been good. But it's like, if I've come
Speaker 5: to the conclusion that America helped destroy the UK, destroy France,
Speaker 5: destroy Germany, literally like every country imaginable, it's like, what
Speaker 5: are the chances that we're just you know, there's two
Speaker 5: countries that were right on, we're just wrong and all.
Speaker 5: And this is not self hating, it's just I believe
Speaker 5: this is why people like Trump. I believe that our
Speaker 5: country has basically been swallowed alive by an elite class
Speaker 5: that are calling the shots, and they're doing it at
Speaker 5: the expense of America. These people have no loyalty to America,
Speaker 5: even like Zelensky, like I don't think he has loyalty
Speaker 5: to the Ukrainian people. I think he's a puppet and
Speaker 5: a pawn and he doesn't mind getting Europeans slaughtered. So
Speaker 5: in America, that's what I feel like is going on.
Speaker 5: It's just hard for Trump supporters to fathom it because
Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, we agree on all that, but Trump's
Speaker 5: our guy, and it's like, eh, you know, like I hope,
Speaker 5: so I definitely think he's the best guy now, but
Speaker 5: you know, it's he definitely takes a lot of money
Speaker 5: from people who want to start war with Iran. So
Speaker 5: maybe this is the one out of the last fifty
Speaker 5: we're OER for forty nine, and maybe this really is
Speaker 5: the one and we're really helping the people Yemen. But
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know as much as you do
Speaker 5: about it, but yeah, my default tells me that we're
Speaker 5: being lied to, obviously. And one thing I want to
Speaker 5: say real quick, sorry, is you know you can't talk
Speaker 5: about false flags at all because you know it's just
Speaker 5: a conspiracy theory and it's hateful. And anytime a tragedy happens,
Speaker 5: then they say, like you're really bad for saying it
Speaker 5: now because.
Speaker 4: Of the tragedy.
Speaker 5: So why wouldn't the world leaders do a false fl
Speaker 5: Like I'm not saying this is one, but it's it's
Speaker 5: like it's been the most effective strategy throughout the decades
Speaker 5: because you can't get support for a war with America.
Speaker 5: Tragedy happens, support support, support support. It's happened throughout history
Speaker 5: and including our allies. I mean, I'm not going to
Speaker 5: name the specific ones now, but you could find our
Speaker 5: allies trying to do false flags on us to get
Speaker 5: us involved in a war and if we're not allowed
Speaker 5: to question it, while Donald Trump is essentially passing hate
Speaker 5: speech laws that would deem it hateful. I mean, he he,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to name the two events because I
Speaker 5: don't even want to talk about him. It might it
Speaker 5: might like he has hate defense, but you know he
Speaker 5: he compared a recent tragedy to a historical tragedy and said, like,
Speaker 5: denial of that, denial of this.
Speaker 4: And it's like, I don't know anybody who's drying it.
Speaker 5: I do know that Harets published and articles talking about
Speaker 5: you know, their strat the Hannibal directive.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're denying the event.
Speaker 5: They're just just just an article in Israeli paper out
Speaker 5: a certain directive that gave out and then they got
Speaker 5: sanctioned by the government. You know, any report that talks
Speaker 5: about it's being antitics.
Speaker 4: So it's just, you know, it's just exhausting. And I think.
Speaker 5: The the elites will we'll get whatever they want as
Speaker 5: and Trump, most Trump supporters will support it because they
Speaker 5: just like Donald Trump, which begs the question like is
Speaker 5: he the greatest present of our lifetime? Ors biggest deceiver?
Speaker 5: That is just like the perfect you know guy for
Speaker 5: the right to believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it's it's one or the other.
Speaker 2: I'll say that, and I'm not sure which, but I'll
Speaker 2: tell you, if we end up with a war against Iran,
Speaker 2: then he is the deceiver as far as I can tell,
Speaker 2: because that is just like people, people really need to
Speaker 2: understand how different this is. I mean Iraq and Afghanistan
Speaker 2: or backwaters compared to Iran, and they are they are,
Speaker 2: and and we didn't even win those wars really, and
Speaker 2: Iran is also such a significant ally to Russia, like
Speaker 2: the odds that Russia doesn't get involved or diminishingly small.
Speaker 2: But here's here's what really concerns me. So I'm I'm
Speaker 2: starting to like step back, and I'm looking at the
Speaker 2: full chess board, right, and I'm like, if i'm if
Speaker 2: I'm Donald Trump and I'm Vladimir Putin and you see
Speaker 2: them trying to negotiate peace in Ukraine. Did these guys
Speaker 2: have a meeting where they say, look like Trump. Trump
Speaker 2: goes to him along with you know, Natanyahu in tow
Speaker 2: and he says, hey, we're gonna stop funding Ukraine. We're
Speaker 2: gonna bring this war to an end. You get the
Speaker 2: fucking eastern twenty percent of Ukraine and no admission into NATO. Basically,
Speaker 2: you get everything that you wanted at the outset of
Speaker 2: this war, and we avoid fucking hot war between the
Speaker 2: two largest nuclear powers in human history. Sound good? All right,
Speaker 2: here's what I need. I need you to fucking back
Speaker 2: off when we when we attack Iran. That's all I need.
Speaker 2: You have to abandon your ally and if you do that,
Speaker 2: you get Ukraine just like you wanted, and you don't
Speaker 2: have NATO on your fucking southern border. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: like that, Tell me that doesn't sound like Trump having
Speaker 2: a negotiation with vlaimir Putin. Now. Will it happen? I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I'm just saying it's plausible.
Speaker 4: Definitely is.
Speaker 5: And I think that's where, at bare minimum, the Russia
Speaker 5: Ukraine war fits into the whole Israel, Palestine and Iran situation.
Speaker 4: Because with Russia spread it.
Speaker 5: You know, before that I don't think they really had
Speaker 5: any imminent threat or they had no war. They were
Speaker 5: fighting active war. Now they do so at bare minimum.
Speaker 5: You know, say you're playing a game of risk with
Speaker 5: no care of actual human life or culture or anything.
Speaker 5: You know, technically starting a war with Russia sacrificing money
Speaker 5: and people would benefit that. You know, it's just when
Speaker 5: you look at this is where Tucker Carlson kind of
Speaker 5: comes in, and he's been, i think a leading voice
Speaker 5: when it comes to Ukraine. In Russia, he very well
Speaker 5: understands that the modern Ukrainian regime is the Bolshevik regime.
Speaker 5: The Bolsheviks are being funded by America. The Ukrainian people
Speaker 5: are completely clueless, and you know, he hates it because
Speaker 5: outside of the game of risk that America is playing,
Speaker 5: what if winning means you lose everything? What if winning
Speaker 5: the war means you lose your country, you lose your
Speaker 5: dominant religion, you lose your ethnic majority.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 5: It's already happened in America, and they just say it's
Speaker 5: racist to notice it's happening in Europe. You know, it's
Speaker 5: like winning what if winning the war means you you
Speaker 5: literally just like everything hard. You know, it's far like
Speaker 5: Europe is worse like Ireland. And then Joe Rogan recently
Speaker 5: talked about it. He's like, why can China do this?
Speaker 5: But if a white country does this, it's racist. It's
Speaker 5: like this this question probably should have been asked thirty
Speaker 5: years ago, but maybe nobody was paying attention because it
Speaker 5: was so sneakly done. But it's like, of course, like
Speaker 5: I'm not even Irish, I have no national Ireland, but
Speaker 5: I'd rather Irin Ireland be Irish people when I go there.
Speaker 5: Like that, you know Darryl Cooper nail that he said
Speaker 5: diversities when you go to different countries and see those people,
Speaker 5: not when every country is like a hodgepodge are the
Speaker 5: same thing. Like that's that's actually not diversity at all.
Speaker 5: You've ruined diversity. So I think that's kind of the
Speaker 5: point where it's like on a game of risk and
Speaker 5: a chess game, it is fighting Russia better for the
Speaker 5: Iranian war, for Israel and America, And like, sure, I guess,
Speaker 5: but at what cost, At the cost of literally all
Speaker 5: of Western civilization crumbling. And then Republicans and Trump supporters
Speaker 5: are like, this guy wants to destroy Western civilization on
Speaker 5: a college campus. Okay, sure, deport him if it makes
Speaker 5: you feel good, But our civilization.
Speaker 4: Is already being destroyed.
Speaker 5: It's not like one Green card holder on a college
Speaker 5: campus is going to destroy Western civilization. Our own leaders
Speaker 5: and both parties have been doing it for literally five
Speaker 5: decades now, you know, to the point where Europe is
Speaker 5: already completely destroyed.
Speaker 4: It's not Oh you're right, one guy who did it.
Speaker 2: Let me play because Connor McGregor was actually at the
Speaker 2: White House podium today saying some of this. Let me
Speaker 2: play it real quick.
Speaker 3: What is called London Ireland is a travesty. Our government
Speaker 3: is the government of zero action with zero accountability. You know,
Speaker 3: our money is being spent on overseas issues that has
Speaker 3: nothing to do with the Irish people. The illegal immigration
Speaker 3: racket is running ravage on the country. There are rural
Speaker 3: towns in Ireland that have been over running Mom's Swoop,
Speaker 3: that have become all minority in wom Swoop. So issues
Speaker 3: natively addressed, and the forty million Irish Americans, as I said,
Speaker 3: need to hear this because if not, there will be
Speaker 3: no place to come home and visit.
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Speaker 2: you some cozy I can't help but notice, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure you notice it too. He's coming over here and
Speaker 2: he's saying that, thinking that, like we're this bastion of
Speaker 2: bastion of hope, and I don't know that we're going
Speaker 2: to back them up. It's like, hey, Connor, look around you, buddy.
Speaker 2: Every single a word he said applies to the United States.
Speaker 2: We don't have any fucking representation. We have government that
Speaker 2: doesn't do our bidding. We have open borders and immigration
Speaker 2: that's absolutely changing, you know, the framework and the makeup
Speaker 2: of this country at a very rapid clip, to the
Speaker 2: tune of probably twenty million over the past four years.
Speaker 2: Like we are Ireland, Connor, Hello.
Speaker 5: Well, I think are we have I don't even know
Speaker 5: if i'd say better opposition, but I would say we
Speaker 5: have sneaker opposite. Embrace Connor because I'm sure his political
Speaker 5: parties will not. Actually, the media smeared him pretty bad
Speaker 5: in Ireland, so a lot of people don't even like
Speaker 5: him there. He might have done what they said though
Speaker 5: I don't know he's he's been wilding out the last
Speaker 5: couple of years. I'm not really sure. However, Yeah, no,
Speaker 5: it's this is the issue with America is the opposition
Speaker 5: in America is so much more promising that everybody thinks
Speaker 5: that we're fixing the issues, and you get called far
Speaker 5: right if you notice this. And I guess the quote
Speaker 5: unquote far right is the only one that seems to
Speaker 5: be complaining about this. I guess normal. Trump's borders are too.
Speaker 5: But it's like if you just do the math on
Speaker 5: you know, how many illegal immigrants Biden led an office,
Speaker 5: and then it's like how many illegal immigrants Trump's deporting,
Speaker 5: It's just never it's like it's never going.
Speaker 4: To add up.
Speaker 5: And that's part of the issue with the Democrat and
Speaker 5: Republican Party. It's like the Democrat screws over the country.
Speaker 5: Trump gets in, he fixes a few things, but his
Speaker 5: first term he really didn't do, like, really that much
Speaker 5: at all. And then it's like in quarter four he
Speaker 5: does Operation Warp Speed fifteen days of slow Spread, and
Speaker 5: anything good he ever done he completely destroyed. So it's
Speaker 5: like he I think he did a terrible job the
Speaker 5: first time. Then Joe Biden gets in and he just
Speaker 5: keeps destroying America. He opens the border, he just destroys everything.
Speaker 5: Then Trump gets in and it's like Trump undoes one
Speaker 5: twentieth of what Joe Biden did. And then someone else
Speaker 5: gets in and then they open the floodgates again. So
Speaker 5: it's like, you know, I don't know who said this,
Speaker 5: but it's just like, you know, the left is like
Speaker 5: a speed railed to communism, and the right is just
Speaker 5: like slowing down the train, you know, like by ten miles,
Speaker 5: and it's they're they're never driving in the other direction.
Speaker 5: In fact, if someone says that, like you know, Thomas
Speaker 5: Massey and Rin Paul said all these dots that I'm
Speaker 5: talking about the funding a spending bill that is not
Speaker 5: only extending a lot of these programs, but also it's
Speaker 5: it's doing Biden's spending bill that's going to raise this
Speaker 5: twenty percent. And then Trump tries to kick him out
Speaker 5: of the party, and all the dumb Trump supporters get
Speaker 5: Thomas Massei out of there.
Speaker 4: He's right now.
Speaker 5: It's like, dude, I don't know any other way to
Speaker 5: put it, Like I'm not expecting Trump to reinvent the
Speaker 5: wheel However, what I do want is Republicans to wake up.
Speaker 5: And you know, I hate to say this, but I
Speaker 5: really don't because they've been so mean to me the
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: I don't mind giving it back a little bit.
Speaker 5: You know, the generation that was so lazy that let
Speaker 5: America just fall apart because they just didn't want to
Speaker 5: think about things. Trump made them think about a few things,
Speaker 5: and then they're like, you know what, He's right, let
Speaker 5: me just export all my thoughts to Donald Trump. And
Speaker 5: now they're doing the same thing with him, where it's like,
Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily blaming Donald Trump because I just, like
Speaker 5: he said, Zelensky doesn't have the cards. I know, Trump
Speaker 5: acts like he has the cards, but I would say
Speaker 5: Trump probably has even less cards in his pocket than Zelensky.
Speaker 5: Zelensky probably has more leverage against Trump than Trump has
Speaker 5: against the banking class people that totally own our country.
Speaker 5: So it's like not even saying he can do everything,
Speaker 5: but if we're gonna fix it, then it requires everybody
Speaker 5: to realize the game being played and then kind of,
Speaker 5: you know, let Trump know that it's not.
Speaker 4: Ofugh and like banking class, it's out of left.
Speaker 5: But as long as they have Trump to just sheepherd everybody,
Speaker 5: it's never gonna end. So I don't think a lot
Speaker 5: of Republicans can process this where it's like I'm not
Speaker 5: blaming Trump, I'm not saying he can do all this stuff,
Speaker 5: but we probably need to do this. It's the same
Speaker 5: thing that Elon says when it comes to all the
Speaker 5: spending stuff that he seems to be working on. He's like,
Speaker 5: the country's screwed if we keep running up to death
Speaker 5: this point, Like he's like, we're done, it's over. So
Speaker 5: it's it's not like we have like we we we
Speaker 5: don't have to we have to do that. We have
Speaker 5: to do that. And the same thing with certain things
Speaker 5: this country. It's like there's patterns going on right now,
Speaker 5: like this country is going to be horrible in twenty years, horrible,
Speaker 5: like they you know, not just economically, but you know demographically.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying everybody's bad, but I do believe in
Speaker 5: just different places, and you know, every place is not
Speaker 5: the same. Like that's true in America, Like no offense,
Speaker 5: I don't want to live in Philadelphia. I don't want
Speaker 5: to live in these major cities that are terrible so
Speaker 5: it's like, if you just do the math, it's like
Speaker 5: most of the country is going to look like that
Speaker 5: in twenty thirty years. So, you know, I think a
Speaker 5: lot of Trump supporters like you're being too tough on them,
Speaker 5: and it's like, dude, our country is like washed and
Speaker 5: it's a hard thing to explain or process that you
Speaker 5: have to pay attention and actually provide some resistance. You know,
Speaker 5: if every Republican said, Hey, Trump, I noticed you took
Speaker 5: hundreds of millions of dollars from a foreign basically lobbyist
Speaker 5: or an American citizen who lobbies on behalf of a
Speaker 5: foreign country. I noticed that, then he probably wouldn't be
Speaker 5: doing so much for them. But if you get mad
Speaker 5: at me and say, who paid you to say that?
Speaker 5: Who paid me to say that Trump has taken over
Speaker 5: six hundred million dollars, So a bad one for taking
Speaker 5: zero dollars, but Trump's a good one for taking six
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars because you like him more than me.
Speaker 5: It's like a stone cold Steve Austin for these boomers. Man,
Speaker 5: it just can't get over it.
Speaker 2: It's a great point. And I was boosting Thomas Massey
Speaker 2: because there was a major op last week to try
Speaker 2: and get him thrown out of office, and Trump led
Speaker 2: the charge on that, along with d C. Draino and
Speaker 2: these other paid pundits. I don't think these people have
Speaker 2: any sincere principles at all. I'm just being totally honest.
Speaker 2: But you wouldn't believe the replies I was getting people.
Speaker 2: There was intel, you know, like an OP that was
Speaker 2: ran against MASSI, and as a consequence, they had messaging
Speaker 2: that went out that said, well, one of Thomas Massey's
Speaker 2: top individual donors is in fact Jewish. So when you
Speaker 2: say he's not taking money from APEC, well you're just
Speaker 2: lying because he's got a top donor. And I was like, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 2: So I do a little research on it. This guy's
Speaker 2: give him like thirty six grand over the past decade,
Speaker 2: and his big issue is that they don't he doesn't
Speaker 2: want them to ban TikTok. It's like, well, Thomas Massey
Speaker 2: doesn't support banning TikTok because he believes in property rights.
Speaker 2: So he's not changing his principles or his policymaking or
Speaker 2: his voting record to go along with one of his donors.
Speaker 2: He's getting funded because this donor realizes that Thomas Massey
Speaker 2: is the type of guy that, if he stays in power,
Speaker 2: will continue to vote in a way that he finds
Speaker 2: beneficial to himself. There's nothing wrong with that. It's when
Speaker 2: you change it's when you change your votes. So it's
Speaker 2: when you change your opinions because of what your donor
Speaker 2: wants you to do. That's where it becomes problematic. I
Speaker 2: just wish people understood.
Speaker 4: That, Well, who's donating to him? Do you know the name?
Speaker 2: They messaged me it? I don't. I don't remember it offhand. Sorry,
Speaker 2: it wasn't any It wasn't any like famous person.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's definitely worth bringing up.
Speaker 5: You know, I like Thomas Massey in a lot, but
Speaker 5: it's like, I don't you know, I think he votes
Speaker 5: pretty ethically. However, if someone can prove that he took
Speaker 5: thirty six thousand dollars from someone regardless of their ethnicity
Speaker 5: and changed his opinion or did something against America's interests,
Speaker 5: I think it's got to be part of the equation.
Speaker 5: Like I, you know, I wouldn't try to stop that conversation.
Speaker 5: But if you're gonna say Thomas Massey took thirty six
Speaker 5: thousand dollars. Then you got to say that Trump took
Speaker 5: you know, Trump and the GOP took six hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5: Trump is taking hundreds of millions of dollars, and you know, like,
Speaker 5: I'm willing to talk about it all. So it's like
Speaker 5: I don't think Thomas Massey necessarily gets a pass.
Speaker 2: But it's I'm not saying he just hold on. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying he deserves a pass. I'm just saying it
Speaker 2: didn't change his voting. Like he wouldn't have voted for
Speaker 2: the TikTok ban, regardless he's never been for it. Had
Speaker 2: he flip flopped, had the guy been like, hey, I
Speaker 2: see that you're going to vote to ben TikTok and
Speaker 2: then he ships him thirty six grand and then Massy
Speaker 2: all of a sudden votes to not ban it, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, all right, yeah, that's a fucking problem. This
Speaker 2: is not what happened though, Whereas whereas with Trump, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he campaigns on maybe we shouldn't be bombing yem and
Speaker 2: maybe we don't need to go to war with Iron
Speaker 2: or whoever else, and then he gets into power after
Speaker 2: getting you know, a half a trillion dollars and that funds,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he's like, yeah, let's fucking
Speaker 2: let's launch a couple of strikes on Yemen and maybe
Speaker 2: we'll go to war with Iron too. Well, I think
Speaker 2: that's a bigger problem.
Speaker 5: I guess people could argue that Trump wants to do
Speaker 5: these things anyway, and then he just gets money for it.
Speaker 4: I don't agree, but you.
Speaker 2: Know, maybe, but that's not what his campaign slogans were.
Speaker 5: I noticed when DeSantis was running for office, and you know,
Speaker 5: people wanted to look for angles to help Trump over DeSantis.
Speaker 5: The same people who helped cover up the IHRI anti
Speaker 5: semitism laws and rules. They started saying, well, DeSantis is
Speaker 5: trying to criminalize hate speech. DeSantis is passing a bill
Speaker 5: for anti semitism. And it's the same people who justify
Speaker 5: when Trump does it. So I do know that DeSantis
Speaker 5: did take it kind of extraordinarily far with the littering bill,
Speaker 5: But in general, it's just like does anybody actually care
Speaker 5: about anything?
Speaker 2: You know like that.
Speaker 5: It's just it's it's a big game for a lot
Speaker 5: of these people. It's just a game of like, let's
Speaker 5: let's destroy that guy. Because Trump doesn't like him. For me,
Speaker 5: I don't like anybody in Congress really besides Thomas Massey.
Speaker 5: You know, he's one of the only people I like.
Speaker 5: He was the only person that called out the COVID
Speaker 5: spending bill. To me that that was the ultimate test,
Speaker 5: Like no one even no one, no one in the
Speaker 5: GOP had an issue with it because Trump wanted it
Speaker 5: pass and everybody's afraid to like get mad at Trump.
Speaker 5: And then he was the only one who's like, not
Speaker 5: only are they trying to pass it, but they're trying
Speaker 5: to hide their votes.
Speaker 4: So you don't even know who said yes or no.
Speaker 5: So it becomes like the biggest spending bill of all
Speaker 5: time that nobody knows who voted for it. Everything he
Speaker 5: said was right, and then Trump tried to kick him
Speaker 5: out there, so it's like, you know, it's I don't
Speaker 5: know who's doing what against Massy for what reasons. I'm
Speaker 5: guessing some people it's just sports team and they like Trump.
Speaker 5: Others it's you know, Thomas Massey is very hated by
Speaker 5: Jewish organizations on both sides, not for being hateful, but
Speaker 5: for trying to cut four and eight and call out
Speaker 5: the anti Semitism rules. So you have the Republican Jewish
Speaker 5: Coalition I believe, saying that they're going to spend unlimited
Speaker 5: money against him. And I noticed that vivexs Nikoswami was
Speaker 5: on stage with them a couple of years ago, you know,
Speaker 5: talking about all this stuff. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 5: people think he's going to be like a Thomas Massey.
Speaker 5: You know, the real Thomas Massey's have organizations like that
Speaker 5: Fund of your Opposition not putting you on stage. So
Speaker 5: I mean, we'll see what he doesn't in wherever he
Speaker 5: is when he gets a chance.
Speaker 4: Ohio.
Speaker 5: But I just found that interesting that organization that he
Speaker 5: spoke at was running crazy. You know, they just don't
Speaker 5: want Massy in there. So everybody kind of has their
Speaker 5: own I guess angle of why they don't like Massey.
Speaker 4: But I like him, you know.
Speaker 2: No, My frustration is just that, like Massy is probably
Speaker 2: the most transparent member of Congress when it comes to
Speaker 2: his voting record. Like even when he takes a vote
Speaker 2: that he knows that his supporters are probably not going
Speaker 2: to like, he'll go live and he'll explain it. He'll
Speaker 2: be like, look on its face, Yes, I understand why
Speaker 2: you think I ought to be voting yes for this.
Speaker 2: This is why I'm voting no, And he'll explain it.
Speaker 2: And every time I've every single time I've ever watched it,
Speaker 2: even when I disagreed going into it, I came away
Speaker 2: going that makes perfect sense. Like as soon as he
Speaker 2: explains it, I'm like, that makes perfect sense. So I
Speaker 2: just it's just very frustrating that the guy who's the
Speaker 2: most transparent, the most honest, the most principled, the most
Speaker 2: America First sincerely is dragged through the mud by the
Speaker 2: America First president, you know, the guy who got put
Speaker 2: in power for a second term because he ran on
Speaker 2: this America First campaign, which is what I liked about him.
Speaker 2: And then turn around and try and you know, get
Speaker 2: him primaried after you've already done that. By the way,
Speaker 2: he already tried to do that, and they burnt a
Speaker 2: crazy amount of money. I don't remember how much it was.
Speaker 2: It was like a couple of million bucks trying to
Speaker 2: get him out lasco around. He's still won by two
Speaker 2: thirds of the vote. Like this dude's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: Massey is not going anywhere. He's extraordinarily popular and by
Speaker 2: the way, he raised in part because of people like
Speaker 2: you and I three hundred and fifty thousand dollars over
Speaker 2: the past week. Once once Trump said that he wanted
Speaker 2: him out, Alo, the grassroots people were like, fuck that here,
Speaker 2: Thomas takes some money. So but that's that's This is
Speaker 2: a relatively minor on the grand scheme of things. What's
Speaker 2: really problematic is that we only got one. We've got
Speaker 2: fucking Thomas Massey and that's about it. And all of
Speaker 2: the rest of the congressmen, even the ones that are like, Okay,
Speaker 2: they don't have a fucking real spine, dude, they're not
Speaker 2: gonna really stand up and try and cut spending. And
Speaker 2: this entire argument that they're gonna cut spending in September
Speaker 2: but they can't do it now is just a lie.
Speaker 2: And your point earlier about Elon Musk, how he talks
Speaker 2: about how extential existential this spending is and how it
Speaker 2: has to be dealt with. Where's fucking Elon Musk dragging
Speaker 2: the Congress through the mud saying, Hey, what the fuck
Speaker 2: are you guys doing. I'm I'm risking my reputation, my
Speaker 2: all of my multi billion dollar businesses to try and
Speaker 2: deal with this spending issue via doge And then you
Speaker 2: guys are going to continue with the spending record of
Speaker 2: the Biden administration, the largest spending bill in human history.
Speaker 2: You're going to just continue it despite the fact that
Speaker 2: we're not in lockdowns anymore. It's just there's just no
Speaker 2: one that's real. Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think everyone's playing a different game. And like Thomas,
Speaker 5: you know Trump not just people like me and you.
Speaker 5: But I think Trump keeps making him more famous because,
Speaker 5: to be honest, Thomas wasn't really fully on my radar
Speaker 5: until Trump pissed got pissed at him the first time,
Speaker 5: and then I was.
Speaker 4: Like, let me look into this, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 4: that guy's right. I was like, that guy's right, Trump's wrong.
Speaker 4: You know. So Trump Trump has helped him tremendously.
Speaker 5: I'm sure Thomas loves the attention because it's it's just
Speaker 5: helping him with the Elon thing. It's like, you know,
Speaker 5: Thomas Massey is a congressman. He gets voted by the
Speaker 5: people of Kentucky, and this is the character that he's
Speaker 5: chosen to play.
Speaker 4: He's our modern Ron Paul.
Speaker 5: He tells the truth, he's right about almost everything, and
Speaker 5: everybody hates him until ten years later they'll realize he
Speaker 5: was right, like Ron Paul. With that being said, Elon
Speaker 5: Musk is one of the biggest billionaires in the world.
Speaker 5: He owns multiple companies, He's one of Trump's biggest donors
Speaker 5: at this point, if not his biggest donor. And he's
Speaker 5: basically partnered with Trump where he knows that Trump will
Speaker 5: give him the keys to the Doge Castle as long
Speaker 5: as he doesn't cross Trump, you know, Like, so he
Speaker 5: has to play a different game because let's just say
Speaker 5: Elon Musk actually believe agrees with Thomas Massey.
Speaker 4: Which is very likely.
Speaker 5: You know, if he comes out and he starts challenging Trump,
Speaker 5: Trump going to be like, who the hell do you
Speaker 5: think you are? Like, you know, you do everything because
Speaker 5: I let you. So even with the media, they're trying
Speaker 5: to drive a wedge between Trump and Elon. We using
Speaker 5: Trump's ego and Elon you know this and that, And
Speaker 5: Elon hasn't taken the bait.
Speaker 4: He's letting Trump know very smartly, like this is a lie.
Speaker 5: I love you, you know, you're the man. We're friends.
Speaker 5: So I think that's the difference. And I'm not making
Speaker 5: excuses for Elon, but it's like he not only is
Speaker 5: he not a congressman, but he doesn't have.
Speaker 4: The ability to do that.
Speaker 5: And that's the interesting thing apart the interesting thing about freedom.
Speaker 4: And it's like, if you want freedom to travel, being.
Speaker 5: Rich is really important, you know, as long as you
Speaker 5: can get access to every country. But if you want
Speaker 5: the freedom to be an honest man, sometimes you know,
Speaker 5: connections actually destroys you. Like I you know, you remember
Speaker 5: the time that Elon said what he still believes I'm sure,
Speaker 5: which is like some guy noticed that certain Jewish organizations,
Speaker 5: not all, but certain Jewish organizations were pushing anti white
Speaker 5: hatred like and then Elon responsibility said, you have said
Speaker 5: the actual truth. And then after that he went on
Speaker 5: a huge apology tour with Ben Shapiro and you know,
Speaker 5: had to go to a foreign country. And it's like
Speaker 5: he's never said anything like that. Do I think he
Speaker 5: mysteriously doesn't think that now. No, he probably still knows
Speaker 5: that that's happening, but he can't say it, like he's
Speaker 5: too powerful and he just he can't do it.
Speaker 4: Same with like Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 5: Not only does he have huge gums and a massive forehead,
Speaker 5: which is fine, but you know, I only make fun
Speaker 5: of him because I feel like he's the ultimate sellout.
Speaker 5: I think he knows better, but he's so tied to
Speaker 5: donors through his organizations that he can't be.
Speaker 4: A Thomas Massey.
Speaker 5: I bet he has a few beers and tells everybody
Speaker 5: he agrees with everything. Thomas Massey says, he's probably agrees
Speaker 5: with a lot of the people that he constantly smears
Speaker 5: his anti Semite's like Charlie knows all that stuff.
Speaker 4: He's not stupid. There's a big brain inside that massive forehead.
Speaker 5: And you know he's got a high IQ, almost as
Speaker 5: high as his gum line. But it's like he can't
Speaker 5: be Thomas Massey because he's too tied to donors. So
Speaker 5: you know, it just shows you that, like, you know,
Speaker 5: if you want money, if you want power, or if
Speaker 5: you want to suck on donor teat in order to
Speaker 5: get millions of dollars for your organization, you.
Speaker 4: Can do that. You can get rich and get powerful.
Speaker 5: You can get some hot chick that you know you
Speaker 5: would never get if you didn't have that position of power.
Speaker 4: And all that's, you know, good.
Speaker 5: Stuff, but deep down inside, I think you'll always know
Speaker 5: that you're a fraud, you know, And it's like I
Speaker 5: like the Thomas Massey's of the world more. It's like,
Speaker 5: you know, everything's not a competition. But if you're if
Speaker 5: you're the richest man in the world, and you're not
Speaker 5: even the free, you're not even free to say which
Speaker 5: organizations you notice hating on your ethnicity. You're not free
Speaker 5: if you have a massive forehead and a giant gum
Speaker 5: line the size of Kentucky. But you're not allowed to
Speaker 5: You're not allowed to say the truth because then you'll
Speaker 5: lose your donor money. You're not a free man.
Speaker 2: Money free right. Look, Look I am, I am. I
Speaker 2: guess a bit of a pragmatist in that, like I
Speaker 2: will even though I personally wouldn't do it, I will
Speaker 2: forgive some level of selling out if it's for if
Speaker 2: it's in service of a greater good. Like if I
Speaker 2: if if as a consequence of shutting up about the
Speaker 2: anti Semitism laws, it enabled us to get rid of
Speaker 2: the income tax, I would shut up about the anti
Speaker 2: Semitism laws. You know, like like those are the type
Speaker 2: of like sellouts that are trade offs that I would
Speaker 2: be willing to make. But like that's not what's on
Speaker 2: the table, you know, I don't have those. I don't
Speaker 2: have that fucking options being given to me. And you
Speaker 2: your point about Elon Musk is well taken, Like, I
Speaker 2: completely agree with you that if he were to speak out,
Speaker 2: he would probably be ousted and those would probably be
Speaker 2: shut down or handed over to somebody else. So I
Speaker 2: understand why he's why he's not speaking out, But at
Speaker 2: the same time, like, there are moments in life where
Speaker 2: if you're not willing to stand up when it really,
Speaker 2: really fucking matters, well then you're just useless. And I
Speaker 2: think that that like what mass he did in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty at the hid to lockdowns when they were trying
Speaker 2: to pass that multi the largest spending bill in human
Speaker 2: fucking history. And he's the only guy out of probably
Speaker 2: two hundred Republicans at the time that was willing to
Speaker 2: actually get up there and say, yeah, look, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna vote for this, we're gonna have a fucking courted vote,
Speaker 2: you lunatics. And as a consequence of that, you know,
Speaker 2: he's the only one with a spine, the only one
Speaker 2: with the courage to do it, and he gets threatened
Speaker 2: with a primary and it's just like, look, I I
Speaker 2: voted for Trump, so Obviously I've forgiven a lot of
Speaker 2: his fucking his failings, but I will say this, if
Speaker 2: he starts a fucking war with Iran, I am so
Speaker 2: off this bandwagon. I can't even your head will spend
Speaker 2: how fast I'll get off this bandwagon like it is.
Speaker 2: That is the ultimate nail in the coffin of America,
Speaker 2: first of make America great again, of getting our budget
Speaker 2: in order of figuring out anything new or different from
Speaker 2: the old guard neo conservative GOP. It just can't happen.
Speaker 2: And I hope, I hope any Trump supporters that are
Speaker 2: out there that agree with me that going to war
Speaker 2: with Iran is a fucking catastrophe, that you will not
Speaker 2: be a coward, that you will stand up when it matters,
Speaker 2: and you will do what Thomas Massey does, which is
Speaker 2: say something, fucking voice your protests. Sure, maybe it doesn't
Speaker 2: make a difference, but say it anyways.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 5: It is, like, I you know, I always try to
Speaker 5: think logically about the situation. It's like, what's gonna stop?
Speaker 5: You know, it's a numbers game. I think that would
Speaker 5: have to stop stuff. And that's why, you know, it's
Speaker 5: hard to tell what's gonna wake people up. I do
Speaker 5: think that a lot of people have woken up. But
Speaker 5: for example, the people that are just like, screw it,
Speaker 5: let Democrats win because then people will wake up.
Speaker 4: Well, actually that's.
Speaker 5: Not true, because Democrats are gonna ruin everything, and then
Speaker 5: Republicans are gonna rally behind Trump or somebody like Trump
Speaker 5: to fix it, and then Trump does it, and then
Speaker 5: there's excuses and then a Democrat gets in or like
Speaker 5: even with the whole January sixth thing, like people said
Speaker 5: it was an op afterwards, like after they fell for it,
Speaker 5: after they went after they got tricked, and then the
Speaker 5: y or two later, like, yeah, it was an op.
Speaker 5: If it was an OP, then why'd you fall for it?
Speaker 5: But I'm not saying it's their fault, but I'm just
Speaker 5: in general, it's like I kind of I felt like
Speaker 5: beforehand something was up, you know, just just because he
Speaker 5: was selling vaccines, like I didn't trust him. But it
Speaker 5: was the perfect thing because it did all these things.
Speaker 5: First of all, it got everybody in trouble. Then the
Speaker 5: FBI just started going crazy on Trump's supporters than anybody
Speaker 5: in his vicinity. And then also it gutted out the
Speaker 5: anti lockdown protests which were going to happen because the
Speaker 5: country was in shambles and when Biden was in office,
Speaker 5: like there needed to be some peaceful resistance, and it
Speaker 5: gutted the complete movement. And then on the other side
Speaker 5: of it, it turned Trump into this pariah figure where
Speaker 5: now instead of actually realizing that, he's on television saying
Speaker 5: the vaccine saved one hundred million lives and it's this
Speaker 5: great medical achievement of mankind everybody's talking about January sixth,
Speaker 5: and then when Trump got arrested by Alvin Bragg, now
Speaker 5: Trump's the victim and he's got the mug shots. So
Speaker 5: it's like this never ending hero story that's never going anywhere.
Speaker 5: You know, I obviously think he's better than Biden. But
Speaker 5: to what you were saying, The reason I'm saying all
Speaker 5: this is like, what's gonna you know, when are people
Speaker 5: going to figure this out? It's hard for me to
Speaker 5: tell where it's like, it's not him losing, because then
Speaker 5: people will just get mad at the Democrats and wanted
Speaker 5: a Republican.
Speaker 4: It's not him winning.
Speaker 5: And to those who are mad at me for voting
Speaker 5: for him, one my vote doesn't matter like he would
Speaker 5: have won anyway. Literally, it's like one vote in Californi
Speaker 5: it didn't matter. But also it's like I'm, I'm it's
Speaker 5: not like if he loses, everybody wakes up. The same
Speaker 5: stuff goes on, and then there's that same false hope
Speaker 5: that they're publisher to fix it. So you know, I'm
Speaker 5: not really that interested in like, oh, let's talk about
Speaker 5: the election now, because it doesn't matter. We're not voting
Speaker 5: a way out of this where you know, I vote strategically,
Speaker 5: But what's gonna make people wake up?
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't get it at this point.
Speaker 5: I can't no offense, but like I can't relate to
Speaker 5: people that are this dumb at this point.
Speaker 4: But a lot of people really are. So that's the real.
Speaker 5: Questions, like what at what point do they say see
Speaker 5: through this? Or are the elites just smarter than them
Speaker 5: where they can constantly like.
Speaker 2: Cock, they're smart this dude.
Speaker 5: There's people that there's people that think that, Like do
Speaker 5: you remember Michael Rappaport used to be the biggest Trump hater,
Speaker 5: Like he used to make Keith Oberman style videos where
Speaker 5: he's like foaming at the mouth just being Trumpet orange
Speaker 5: man bad like it was like you actually thought, like
Speaker 5: someone Donald Trump. Now he's the biggest Trump supporter because
Speaker 5: of you know, Trump's Zionist Israel stuff, and everyone's like
Speaker 5: he's based.
Speaker 4: He's this bro.
Speaker 5: Someone could go from hating him that bad, Like the
Speaker 5: only thing that changed is Israel as far as the
Speaker 5: borders and stuff, like now all these people are like, yeah,
Speaker 5: they don't really care us. They would have cared then
Speaker 5: it's all for the country that they like more. And
Speaker 5: it's just like I don't care. I don't care he is.
Speaker 5: He has a right to like Trump for whatever reason.
Speaker 5: But it's like they're Trump supporters that like will fall
Speaker 5: for that and be like he's just like me now,
Speaker 5: and it's like.
Speaker 4: It's it's like too easy to trick these people.
Speaker 5: So you know, I hear what you're saying. I guess
Speaker 5: I just I don't know what it's gonna take. I
Speaker 5: don't know what it's gonna take. I don't know when
Speaker 5: people will wake up, if they if they will. I
Speaker 5: think there's been a lot of progress for sure, uh,
Speaker 5: you know over the last couple of years, but there
Speaker 5: is that huge group that they just never get it.
Speaker 5: And I just don't want to stress myself out over it,
Speaker 5: because you know, these people are calling me names in
Speaker 5: in the in the comments that could get me in trouble,
Speaker 5: Like they're giving me these false labels that then the
Speaker 5: Trump government can use. And it's like my own supporters
Speaker 5: are trying to get me in trouble because I said
Speaker 5: one thing. So now, if I don't want this guy
Speaker 5: deported this second, and I want to think about it
Speaker 5: and make a rational stance, you're gonna accuse me of
Speaker 5: something that they're literally using to justify bombing people overseas,
Speaker 5: Like that's what you.
Speaker 4: Want to happen to me? If you're calling me that,
Speaker 4: I'm not stupid.
Speaker 5: So it's like these people not only won't listen, but
Speaker 5: it's it's literally like they want to treat you like
Speaker 5: the enemy for for just pointing something out. So I
Speaker 5: don't know why I even went on that whole ramp,
Speaker 5: but I'm just like, I don't know what the answer.
Speaker 2: Is said well, and then and then on top of that,
Speaker 2: even if you're not if they're not worried about you,
Speaker 2: and I just be worried for yourself. Hey guys, J six,
Speaker 2: you guys were fucking labeled as insurrectionists if there was
Speaker 2: these laws, if they label you as a domestic terrorist,
Speaker 2: they could throw your ass in Gitmo and never give
Speaker 2: you a trial again. Yeah, the Democrats, the Democrats could
Speaker 2: absolutely do that to you. And and like, you're gonna
Speaker 2: just sign off on these because someone told you that
Speaker 2: the Houthis are fucking you know, Nazis or whatever done
Speaker 2: propaganda shit, You're falling for now.
Speaker 5: It's like that, look is the next like in the
Speaker 5: elite's little playbook, that probably is it? Like, let Trump
Speaker 5: label this a terrorist organization, let them strip the First Amendment,
Speaker 5: start with the green card, then go to the students.
Speaker 5: The Republican Fox News jewelers will will will cheer it
Speaker 5: on because you know, Mark Levin told them that they're
Speaker 5: beating up the terrorists. And now that the term has changed,
Speaker 5: now all it will take is one false or real
Speaker 5: flag for Trump supporters and no offense. They're probably dumb
Speaker 5: enough to fall for it again just like they did
Speaker 5: the first time and set themselves up. And then it's
Speaker 5: like then the Biden administration can literally instead of doing
Speaker 5: what they did for January sixth, now they could do
Speaker 5: it to an even higher extent and basically say not
Speaker 5: only are we going to arrest everybody who did it,
Speaker 5: but we can arrest everyone who didn't, everybody who supports it,
Speaker 5: everybody who's aligned with it, everybody who is in any way,
Speaker 5: shape or form not completely condemn it, condemned this, or
Speaker 5: else you are the terrorists.
Speaker 4: And if you are the terrorists, now.
Speaker 5: Like that's got to be their next point, because it's
Speaker 5: it's too easy at this point, and the fact that.
Speaker 4: Everyone's falling for it.
Speaker 5: You know, I have to give credit to two people
Speaker 5: that I saw, Not Eric Weinstein because he's an absolute idiot,
Speaker 5: but Brett Weinstein, the smarter of the two.
Speaker 4: You know, He's like, dude, I'm totally against this.
Speaker 5: He's like, but from a First Amendment standpoint, this is
Speaker 5: this is it has to be looked at.
Speaker 4: Yes, correct, Thank you.
Speaker 5: Some guy I forget his name, but Glenn Greenwalter retweeted
Speaker 5: him he's super prosionist and he said, listen, I hate
Speaker 5: my mood Khalil. I think he's disgusting. I think he's
Speaker 5: a dirt bag. I think he's evil. He's like, but
Speaker 5: this is the Constitution and I don't agree with this,
Speaker 5: And I'm like, thank you. That proves that you have
Speaker 5: loyalty to America, and that proves that you're you actually
Speaker 5: value the Constitution. If that's the case, then it doesn't
Speaker 5: matter if you're a Zionist or this or that. Like,
Speaker 5: that's what America is about. The issue is it seems
Speaker 5: like a lot of people on that side have no.
Speaker 4: No care whatsoever for anything in America. And then you
Speaker 4: notice it and they say you're being anti Semitic.
Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, I have seen a few
Speaker 5: people on that side be willing to tell the truth
Speaker 5: about It's. Uh, you know, only time will tell, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean it's it's really creepy watching Trump push the
Speaker 5: George Bush agenda and people literally fall for it, and
Speaker 5: him in some cases going even further than George Bush.
Speaker 5: I think he's going further than George Bush on the
Speaker 5: whole terrorist thing, like perverting what the word terrorist means
Speaker 5: and using it to attack his enemies.
Speaker 2: Just like, consider how how many terrorist organizations or organizations
Speaker 2: that have been labeled as terrorist organizations have suddenly you know,
Speaker 2: gone away and become like no longer a problem. It's like,
Speaker 2: I mean, they rebrand, Al Qaeda rebranded, they became a
Speaker 2: bunch of different acronyms, like, but like did they go away? So, like,
Speaker 2: do we really want to label like fucking sin loa
Speaker 2: cartel and all these organizations as terrorist organizations? Like do
Speaker 2: you think given that most of the activities that they
Speaker 2: do in America are not terroristic? I mean they yeah,
Speaker 2: they bring in drugs, but like, are they actually are
Speaker 2: they using political violence to change our laws to change
Speaker 2: our government in America? The answer is no, usually not.
Speaker 2: But do you think that they might start that if
Speaker 2: you start calling all of them terrorsts and you're fucking
Speaker 2: using drones against them? It's just like, I just don't
Speaker 2: think people think these things through. I just don't think
Speaker 2: they extrapolate from like or history. This is an ancient history.
Speaker 5: It's twenty years And that's another topic. I'd have to
Speaker 5: really think about it to agree with you, because that
Speaker 5: like part of me disagrees. But here's what I will say.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna take on the cartels, do you think
Speaker 5: you should be spending time policing anti Semitic speech online
Speaker 5: and starting like a five front war in the Middle East?
Speaker 5: You know, because it's like, you know, the cartails are
Speaker 5: no joke, Like it's they're no joke. In Mexico and
Speaker 5: even in America, like you said where it's like, is
Speaker 5: America more powerful?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 5: But not when you're split a thousand different ways, And
Speaker 5: like you said too, there's going to be some repercussion
Speaker 5: to some extent, so it's like being spread so thin.
Speaker 2: Well, he even shows a lack of pity.
Speaker 5: Let's just say this, Okay, say they go after the cartails,
Speaker 5: which they're probably in to some extent doing, should they
Speaker 5: make it illegal and go after people who support the cartels?
Speaker 5: You know, like technically they could say you're a terrorist
Speaker 5: for saying that. Like I always say, for Mexico, I'm
Speaker 5: not no offense. I'm not a huge fan of visiting
Speaker 5: because of that whole situation. But they are like, if
Speaker 5: you don't have a real plan, then Mexico is gonna
Speaker 5: get worse because it's like you, you'll destabilize it, like
Speaker 5: you've destabilized every country. So it's a lot of justification
Speaker 5: for what they're doing. It's just the reality of the situation.
Speaker 5: They could say, well, we've labeled the cartels a domestic
Speaker 5: terrorist organization, and Clint sympathizes with the cartels, So now
Speaker 5: Clint is like, these are the games they could play
Speaker 5: where it's like, you know, I, I uh.
Speaker 2: Well, and let me go on the record before before
Speaker 2: I get thrown in Gittmo. I don't sympathize with them,
Speaker 2: but I understand what you're what you're doing.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying you did.
Speaker 5: You're saying what you do just by you having like
Speaker 5: a logical idea figure what's going on. But I'm not
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to I'm just saying, like that's they
Speaker 5: did label them a terrorist organization. So now it's like
Speaker 5: there are gonna be people who are like, you know what,
Speaker 5: the they hold the cities down in Mexico, they keep
Speaker 5: it safe and secure. That's a statement. That's not a
Speaker 5: that's not a sympathety, you know, that's just the reality
Speaker 5: of the situation. How would be like saying, if you
Speaker 5: just go after Gaddafi, like there's gonna be destabilization, or
Speaker 5: if you get rid of Chilas out, they're gonna be destabilized.
Speaker 2: Why do you love a sad Why do you love Goadafi?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with you?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I just don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, they're doing so many things. I wonder I
Speaker 5: just wonder how they're gonna do all these things while
Speaker 5: sitting online crying about hate speech for Israel, Like it's like,
Speaker 5: how does that fit into you're fighting a five front
Speaker 5: war and and and you're gonna spend your ICE resources
Speaker 5: going after like Jewish Palestinian activists on a college campus,
Speaker 5: Like no offense. I mean, there should be some conversation
Speaker 5: to be had about what these people are doing. But
Speaker 5: the fact that ICE is getting involved now, like how
Speaker 5: do how do we even have the capabilities to do
Speaker 5: all these things we're doing in the world and to
Speaker 5: poor citizens and go after like Jewish Palestinian.
Speaker 2: And act Why the fuck does the GOP care about
Speaker 2: what the Ivy League is allowing to transpire on their
Speaker 2: college campuses. This is an indoctrination mill for the most radical,
Speaker 2: dangerous leftists in this country and it has been for
Speaker 2: one hundred years, and you're going to save them from themselves.
Speaker 2: Tell me, tell me how that's to the advantage of
Speaker 2: the fucking GOP. I don't see it, Like, let them
Speaker 2: figure it out. And by the way, when you riot,
Speaker 2: when you fucking kidnap people or stop people from from moving,
Speaker 2: those are all crimes already could if the college campuses
Speaker 2: wanted to stop those issues when they got out of hand.
Speaker 2: They could have done so. You didn't need to have
Speaker 2: fucking Ice involved. You didn't need to have hate speech laws.
Speaker 2: You could have actually just dealt with the laws as
Speaker 2: they stand, which is equal treatment under the law for
Speaker 2: all people, no special treatment for any individual. That's how
Speaker 2: you should have handled it. But instead the GOP, because
Speaker 2: of their donor class, decided to you know, bridge that
Speaker 2: divide and bail out the Ivy League from themselves. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: I want to say two things real quick. One, yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean it's for Israel. It's for the donors that
Speaker 5: donate to the Ivy League that then pulled their donations
Speaker 5: and gave them to Trump for Israel. So it's like
Speaker 5: they're not These people are not concerned about all the
Speaker 5: leftist Marxism. They're only concerned when it crosses the path
Speaker 5: of Zionism.
Speaker 4: That's clear.
Speaker 5: But obviously that's also hate speech. But uh, you know,
Speaker 5: with that being said, I wanted to ask you. I'm
Speaker 5: trying to think I had I had a good question.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you're you're probably more libertarian than me to
Speaker 5: some extent, So I wanted to ask you what you
Speaker 5: think of this. If Trump can get involved. Like, and
Speaker 5: this is the crazy part about that, is like if
Speaker 5: he got involved and said everyone who broke into a class,
Speaker 5: that's a crime and we're going to handle you, that's
Speaker 5: a lot different than going after a green cardholder who
Speaker 5: literally didn't commit a crime. Like Trump's like, of all
Speaker 5: the things to do to me, it was just like
Speaker 5: the dumbest miss miss uh, missed opportunity.
Speaker 4: But here's my thought.
Speaker 5: I lived in Los Angeles, right every day there's violent
Speaker 5: criminals being led out of jail. Who should be like, literally,
Speaker 5: they've committed crimes that you should.
Speaker 4: Be in jail. Uh. You have homeless people all over
Speaker 4: the streets just destroying it.
Speaker 5: And I mean if if desantists could get mad about
Speaker 5: it anti semitism, littering and give you a felony or whatever, Like,
Speaker 5: how how is that not a crime to just destroy
Speaker 5: the street and just trash it and terrorize it. So
Speaker 5: here's my question, would you be okay as a libertarian?
Speaker 5: Because I'm always like, you know, people are like, oh,
Speaker 5: you don't care about the college campus, blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: It's like I'm just saying, of all the things that
Speaker 5: matter to me, that's not even.
Speaker 4: A top like forty priority, and if he's.
Speaker 5: Gonna do that, like why not? Why isn't he just
Speaker 5: going to Los Angeles and clean up all the homeless?
Speaker 5: Why is he going to Los Angeles and make sure
Speaker 5: like three time violent criminals actually go to jail instead
Speaker 5: of like driving down to Orange County and killing somebody
Speaker 5: and then and then finally getting arrested for the fourth time. Like,
Speaker 5: doesn't he have a legal authority to actually do actual
Speaker 5: crimes more than he has to get involved in a
Speaker 5: first of.
Speaker 2: The eight Yeah, to create new crimes? Right? I am?
Speaker 2: And I actually got into a big fight with Tim
Speaker 2: Poole over this because he was saying he wanted Trump
Speaker 2: to basically save New York from itself. And my argument
Speaker 2: has been that I am not interested in saving states
Speaker 2: from themselves, like we have. The federalist model means that
Speaker 2: you have fifty states and that they they have their
Speaker 2: own electoral process to bring in their own governors to
Speaker 2: reflect the policies, the principles, the beliefs of the local
Speaker 2: population as closely as possible. Californians, by and large, assuming
Speaker 2: that the elections are legitimate, want these policies. So as
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, the federal government should not intercede
Speaker 2: unless it violates the Bill of Rights. Like that's the
Speaker 2: only area where I think that the federal government might
Speaker 2: might have authority, And even then I tend to me
Speaker 2: on states rights.
Speaker 5: Cool, let me ask you this, say, like Louisiana, it's
Speaker 5: a it's a deep red state. Yet New Orleans is
Speaker 5: like the murder capital of the country. And you'll notice
Speaker 5: and Gavin Newsom talks about this, he's sneaky with it.
Speaker 5: But you know, Republicans will say, well, all the cities
Speaker 5: are Democrat, which is true, but the states are Republican.
Speaker 4: What rights do you think they have? Because this is
Speaker 4: the thing.
Speaker 5: It is like all this all the major cities are
Speaker 5: just starting to suck, Like.
Speaker 4: Almost every major city in a red.
Speaker 5: State sucks, and it seems like there's nothing that Republicans
Speaker 5: and say they can do.
Speaker 4: But it's like, do you think that the governor has
Speaker 4: any authority?
Speaker 2: Like, yes, absolutely, governors. I mean we discovered during COVID
Speaker 2: and lockdowns how much power governors have, and they have
Speaker 2: extraordinary power if they want to wield it. So the
Speaker 2: reality is that most of the time they don't want to.
Speaker 2: And the sad truth is that almost all of these
Speaker 2: cities are Democrat mayors, you know, and Democrat politicians. That
Speaker 2: because once you get to a very dense population, you know, center,
Speaker 2: you end up voting for Democrats. I don't know why
Speaker 2: that happens, but it does. As a consequence, you end
Speaker 2: up with these fucking insane progressive policies that destroy the city. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm obviously sympathetic to what you're saying, I fucking I
Speaker 2: grew up in southern California. I watched it be devoured
Speaker 2: by progressivism. I am very much opposed to everything that transpired.
Speaker 2: But I do not think that the answer is to
Speaker 2: have the federal government intercede, because then you have the
Speaker 2: president of the Biden administration interceding into Florida, into Texas,
Speaker 2: into or the Harris or the AOC administration saying, oh, well,
Speaker 2: we're we're declaring that you know, I don't know, gun
Speaker 2: crime in Florida is a is a public health emergency,
Speaker 2: and now we're going to fucking uh, you know, supersede
Speaker 2: your legal system to start to prosecute people for having
Speaker 2: ar fifteens or something like that.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very dangerous, man, it really is.
Speaker 4: And this is one thing I was thinking too.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, he's getting involved in liberal college
Speaker 5: campuses in liberal cities, so it's like now he's going
Speaker 5: to liberal cities to do that. But also with the states,
Speaker 5: like do you think this is what pissed me off
Speaker 5: during COVID All the Democrat governors use their power to
Speaker 5: just destroy the state, and they're like, we have the power.
Speaker 5: But then in red states they didn't seem to have
Speaker 5: the same power to stop it. It's like the blue
Speaker 5: cities did whatever they wanted and the red governors did nothing,
Speaker 5: but the blue governors did something.
Speaker 4: I agree with you on what you said federally.
Speaker 5: You made a great point for that, But it's like,
Speaker 5: do you think they just don't want to get involved,
Speaker 5: like say like Memphis or New Orleans or I mean
Speaker 5: you thing bat and Rouge. I mean you could think
Speaker 5: of like any every city is like destroyed in the
Speaker 5: South and in a red area. Do you think that
Speaker 5: they're just afraid of the consequences like one, they wouldn't
Speaker 5: know what to do too. It might seem racist because
Speaker 5: just the demographics of what's going on there. Three Like
Speaker 5: like I'm you know, the mayors would would fight them
Speaker 5: like Colorado's doing to Trump. So it's it's like, I
Speaker 5: guess this is my point and then and then I'll
Speaker 5: kick it over. It's like I whether I like Trump
Speaker 5: or not not, I guess I'm just so annoyed at
Speaker 5: like people that are obsessed with them, because you know
Speaker 5: they'll be they think everything's like you hate them or
Speaker 5: you like them. But I'm like, the GOP has no plan,
Speaker 5: Like our cities are going to keep getting worse. They're
Speaker 5: king to keep voting Democrat. The Republicans are gonna do nothing,
Speaker 5: like they're gonna keep like.
Speaker 4: I just I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's just like I just don't feel like this is
Speaker 5: ever gonna change, and nobody seems to care.
Speaker 4: And as an American, I'm just embarrassed.
Speaker 5: Like Tokyo has an awesome city Japan, you know, and
Speaker 5: and our cities are trash and that's just who we
Speaker 5: are now. We're just the trashy city, high crime, dirty country.
Speaker 5: I guess we never were that, but now that's just
Speaker 5: what we are, and no one seems to have a
Speaker 5: plan for it.
Speaker 4: Literally know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think I think that there's two major
Speaker 2: factors that have to be remedied. If you want to
Speaker 2: reverse that decline, and it's probably border safety, and it's
Speaker 2: it's inflation. Like if you if you start to get
Speaker 2: the currency under control, I think we might be able
Speaker 2: to get back to you know, single earner households and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, repair some of our cultural framework that's been degraded.
Speaker 2: But I agree with your you know, I guess disappointment
Speaker 2: in the GOP governors who do not intercede on behalf
Speaker 2: of cities in their in their red states. As for
Speaker 2: the Blue states, I feel like they just get what
Speaker 2: they deserve. But you're right, I mean, the GOP does
Speaker 2: not does not step up. They do not They don't
Speaker 2: wield power in the way that the left does. They
Speaker 2: really never have, at least not in my lifetime. Despite
Speaker 2: the all of the protestations of the left that try
Speaker 2: and describe Trump as some you know, power mad dictator
Speaker 2: like he he doesn't do much like they. There was
Speaker 2: this huge fight yesterday over whether or not they were
Speaker 2: going to turn down, turn around a flight of two
Speaker 2: hundred trend de AGUA members because some single judge told
Speaker 2: him that they couldn't do this, and Trump's people said, well,
Speaker 2: they're already over international waters. So it's too late. We're
Speaker 2: gonna ship them. And they're like, look at this dictator,
Speaker 2: he's deporting these gang members. I'm like, to give a
Speaker 2: fuck problem.
Speaker 5: This is the problem with this country is like the
Speaker 5: left is just so dumb. It's like any anything that
Speaker 5: they're right about, they just discredit by being wrong about
Speaker 5: almost everything. Where it's like all these things that Trump's
Speaker 5: doing and you can't even stick to the one or
Speaker 5: two wrong things he's doing that right wingers agree with
Speaker 5: you on. You have to pick, like, oh, I want
Speaker 5: these gang members to stay in America.
Speaker 4: It's like that's your cause, you know.
Speaker 5: So that's why I go so hard on the right.
Speaker 5: Like the left to me is just nonexistent. I'm like,
Speaker 5: they're gone to dumb, you know.
Speaker 4: I don't like when.
Speaker 5: I'm defending them, I'm not defending them for them. I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm just being honest. Where it's like, this is the
Speaker 5: problem with the right is they think everything's left and right.
Speaker 5: Like I've seen a lot of people talking about with
Speaker 5: Israel Palestine, they were like, oh.
Speaker 4: What's the point the left would have thrown you to the.
Speaker 5: Like even Marco Rubio said, oh, I find it really
Speaker 5: funny now that they care about free speech, which is
Speaker 5: basically him admitting that he's violating free speech. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we're violating free speech, but now you care, which is
Speaker 5: like the dumbest talking point because you're admitting that you're
Speaker 5: infringing on it. And there's some of us here where
Speaker 5: it's like the right gets mad at me when I
Speaker 5: do this. The left gets like, we're not seeing it
Speaker 5: as left and right, like they're just using the left
Speaker 5: and right against each other, where the left like the
Speaker 5: left would never have been against pharmaceutical censorship fifteen years ago,
Speaker 5: but through Donald Trump and through brainwashing and MSNBC and
Speaker 5: CNN and all these liberals turning into like hipster it
Speaker 5: doesn't even make sense because used to go to Portland
Speaker 5: for the healthy stuff, used to go to all these
Speaker 5: places for the good ingredients. The hipster liberals used to
Speaker 5: be the healthy ones, and now it's like the healthy moms.
Speaker 5: Like now they're right wing nut jobs. And it's like
Speaker 5: they brainwash the Democrats to try to censor criticism of
Speaker 5: big pharma, and then they'll be it's not right wing,
Speaker 5: you just got brainwashing the thing right, and then.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, they fucking defended the FBI when
Speaker 2: it tried to coo Donald Trump, the FBI, who's responsible
Speaker 2: for taking out Martin Luther King John They the FBI
Speaker 2: are our heroes. There are defenders. The deep state is
Speaker 2: our savior. It's amazing.
Speaker 5: And this is the sad part about both sides. It's like,
Speaker 5: I don't know that anyone cares about anything, Like they
Speaker 5: just want to win, but they don't realize, like Democrats
Speaker 5: don't realize them winning means losing everything because they're wrong
Speaker 5: about almost everything.
Speaker 4: They can't run a city, they're idiots.
Speaker 5: And then the right just wants to win too, but
Speaker 5: they don't realize that their foreign policy has literally destroyed
Speaker 5: the West in America. So it's like, just like we
Speaker 5: make fun of the left when they win everybody loses,
Speaker 5: you're also losing too. They just can't fathom it. It's
Speaker 5: like the Bolsheviks have the most horrific uh, you know,
Speaker 5: domestic policy. They ruin everything they touch on the left,
Speaker 5: yet they're also at the top run by people like
Speaker 5: Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who are neo cons and
Speaker 5: neoliberals anyway.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's the worst of both worlds. On
Speaker 4: the left, you get thing, you lose.
Speaker 5: It's like Gene Wilder and Charlie Kerke is like, you lose,
Speaker 5: you get nothing, goodbye. You know, it's like when he's
Speaker 5: dismissing Charlie for cheating. And then you go to the
Speaker 5: right and it's like they're kind of doing the right
Speaker 5: things domestically so sort of, but their foreign policy, in
Speaker 5: my opinion, has ruined America and Europe, and so it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: this is the better.
Speaker 4: Option, but not because it's actually better.
Speaker 5: It's just it's like, you know, out of an out
Speaker 5: of one hundred, you know, the Democrats are like a
Speaker 5: two out of one hundred, and the Republicans are like
Speaker 5: a fifteen out of one hundred.
Speaker 4: You guys are not an a plug.
Speaker 5: You guys aren't even an f You guys are like
Speaker 5: at least Stefanik when it comes to domestic policy in
Speaker 5: f you know, it's right.
Speaker 2: Well, and just to kind of put a ball on this,
Speaker 2: you keep saying that they're the Bolsheviks, like the left
Speaker 2: of the Bolsheviks well, and then the rest, the moderates
Speaker 2: or the even the GOP many of them are neo cons.
Speaker 2: It's very important for people people to understand the ideological
Speaker 2: predecessors to the neoconservative movements, where Trotzky like literal fucking Trotskyites. So, yes,
Speaker 2: you're right, both sides of this coin, the shit coin
Speaker 2: that we have to flip every cycle, are basically Bolsheviks
Speaker 2: and Trotskyites on both sides of the coin, and as
Speaker 2: a consequence, we continued to have our liberties obliterated. And
Speaker 2: it's really up to the people to demand that that change.
Speaker 2: And if they can't, well then don't expect things to change,
Speaker 2: and you don't get change, and you by hero worship
Speaker 2: or ignoring the failings of your dear leader and Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: I've voted for him, I will defend him when the
Speaker 2: media lies about him, but when he does stuff that
Speaker 2: is one hundred and eighty degrees from what he campaigned on,
Speaker 2: I feel obligated to call it out and that's why
Speaker 2: I do. And I know you're the same way, So thank.
Speaker 5: You for yeah, real quick, and then I'll pass it
Speaker 5: by for you to wrap it up. You know, Mark
Speaker 5: Levin's a perfect example because he's a super neo coon Zionist,
Speaker 5: and you know, all the Bolsheviks and the Laft and
Speaker 5: all these people, the Democrats, the neoliberals, they all supported
Speaker 5: the war in Ukraine.
Speaker 4: But he also supported war in Ukraine. Obama and all.
Speaker 5: Of those type of liberals, they supported the essentially attack
Speaker 5: on Bashira al Assad, so did Mark Levin.
Speaker 4: And then Mark Levin has the nerve to.
Speaker 5: Post after the Christians are getting slaughtered in Syria and
Speaker 5: he's like, all those anti Semites are the reason this
Speaker 5: is happening. It's like, bro, all the people you smear
Speaker 5: were warning that this would happen while you were cheering
Speaker 5: on this happening. As soon as it happens, then he
Speaker 5: acts like he was on the side against it when
Speaker 5: he has got multiple posts row bashiral al kill them,
Speaker 5: get rid of him whatever, Like I don't know if
Speaker 5: he said killed, but he definitely supported the overthrow of
Speaker 5: Bashira al Sade and there's proof of that. But in general,
Speaker 5: it's like, why would Mark Levin a right wing Zionist neocon,
Speaker 5: why does he align with the Bolsheviks in Ukraine?
Speaker 4: Isn't that a little bit weird?
Speaker 5: And a lot of the people of Fox knows too,
Speaker 5: Like you said, it's two sides of the same coin.
Speaker 4: If they came out and just.
Speaker 5: Told you we are the neoliberals, you know, like no,
Speaker 5: everyone they have to like be like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: no no, we support Donald Trump. I mean I'm sean nnity,
Speaker 5: I'm I'm throwing a football here, football America football.
Speaker 2: So you see my cia la pen pal.
Speaker 5: That means yeah, football nerveball.
Speaker 4: Slurb down your seed oils, folks.
Speaker 5: We're getting to the point of the wars, and like,
Speaker 5: you know, it's like these people are it's just too hard,
Speaker 5: it's just too sad to be like, wait, it's not
Speaker 5: the left versus the right, it's the Bolsheviks versus like
Speaker 5: the neo bolshevik y.
Speaker 2: And then then think about fucking Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy's
Speaker 2: arguing that we have a basically a public health crisis
Speaker 2: where everyone's got all these co morbidities in world fucking
Speaker 2: dying earlier. And his first like major action as the
Speaker 2: headay of HHS is to concern himself with anti semitism
Speaker 2: on college campuses. Bro, are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 5: It's humiliating, Like Bobby Kennedy was the only person I said,
Speaker 5: I like, I told everybody, you know, he's not doing
Speaker 5: foreign policy, so who cares.
Speaker 4: He just focused on the food. He couldn't even do
Speaker 4: anything for the food.
Speaker 5: Before he's crying about anti Semitism and the fruity loobs
Speaker 5: and now it's just like, oh, it's a plague. Gets
Speaker 5: a greenhouse gas hate speech for one, and he's like,
Speaker 5: but I'm pro free speech, bro. Look up what the
Speaker 5: word means on the State Department. Like all these people
Speaker 5: are playing stupid, like they don't know what the official
Speaker 5: definition is. Bobby got accused of anti Semitism because they
Speaker 5: caught him at a private dinner. Somebody recorded him, which
Speaker 5: is messed up. But he was talking about reading a
Speaker 5: study where it was affecting different ethnicities in a different way,
Speaker 5: and he got called an anti semi. He is an
Speaker 5: anti semi according to his own little rules that he
Speaker 5: keeps pushing. It's like it's humiliating. It's like they they
Speaker 5: can't just do like eighty percent for that. They have
Speaker 5: to do it all just to tell us like no, sorry,
Speaker 5: you're not getting anything. Hopefully he gets the seed oils out,
Speaker 5: maybe he'll replace the seed oils with.
Speaker 4: Like Israel oils.
Speaker 5: He's like, I made a new seed called an Israel seed,
Speaker 5: and we're gonna put these seed oils and Everything're like, dude,
Speaker 5: I'm just a kid kidding, Like, come on, bro, like
Speaker 5: what about the beef dolla.
Speaker 2: He's like, we're gonna save a trillion dollars because we're
Speaker 2: not gonna have seed oils, and we're gonna ship that
Speaker 2: trillion dollars straight to Israel forever. Holy fucking shit. Anyways,
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Speaker 7: Been that the GOP throughout my entire life has not
Speaker 7: turned words into action.
Speaker 4: They have it.
Speaker 7: Hey, they've promised to defend They've promised to defend the Constitution.
Speaker 7: When I'm gonna die before they do it.
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Speaker 7: when When it's not happening. So the reason the Libertarian
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Speaker 7: particularly between you and I have a tremendous amount of
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