Speaker 1: Okay, so imagine a mirror, right, but this mirror doesn't
just show you, like your reflection. It shows you moments
in time. Whoa, yeah, like the past or even.
Speaker 2: The future, like time travel kind.
Speaker 1: Of kind of Yeah.
Speaker 2: It sounds crazy, yeah, like straight out of science fiction exactly.
Speaker 1: But believe it or not, there were these Russian scientists
back in nineteen ninety. They were way up north in
the Arctic.
Speaker 2: That's gotta be cold, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Super remote. They were working with this device they called
a Cozy Rev mirror.
Speaker 2: A cozy Riv mirror. What's that all about.
Speaker 1: Well, it's based on the theories of this astrophysicist named
Nikolai Coozyrev. And get this. He believed he could amplify psychic.
Speaker 2: Abilities with it, seriously psychic abilities.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they were conducting these experiments up there in
the Arctic and some wild stuff started happening. People reported
seeing weird lights like discs flying around, energy balls appearing
and disappearing. Oh wow, and even the northern lights were
going crazy, super bright and intense like never before.
Speaker 2: Sounds pretty spooky, definitely.
Speaker 1: And it gets weirder. People started feeling this this sense
of dread, like something bad was going to happen.
Speaker 2: Huh, just from being near the mirror.
Speaker 1: That's what they say. And then the people who actually
went inside the mirror, they claimed they could see things
in the past and maybe even the future.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's some next level stuff. So today we're diving
into this whole Cozy Rev mirror thing, the theories, the experiments,
the claims. Were they really messing with time or is
there another explanation exactly?
Speaker 1: And you've done some serious research on this, so let's
unpack it all.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So, first off, who was this Cozy Rev guy and
what were his theories all about? Right?
Speaker 2: So, Nikolai Kozyrev he was a legit scientist, an astrophysicist actually,
but yeah, had some pretty out there ideas. Let's just
say he wasn't exactly mainstream.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what made him so different?
Speaker 2: Well, for starters, he believed that time wasn't just a dimension,
you know, like a backdrop for everything that happens. Yeah,
he thought time was an active force, like it had
energy and structure.
Speaker 1: Time with energy. I've never thought about it.
Speaker 2: Like that, right, It's a pretty radical concept. He even
believed this time energy flowed through something he called the ether.
Speaker 1: The ether? Isn't that like an old idea that science
kind of threw out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. Mainstream science abandoned the idea of the
ether a while back, you know, after experiments couldn't prove
it existed.
Speaker 1: So kozy Rev was going against the grain right from
the star.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big time. But he went even further than that.
He actually believed you could manipulate time, like speed it up,
slow it down, maybe even reverse it.
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, now, reverse time? Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: Nope, that's what he thought, and he didn't stop there.
He also believed time was linked to human consciousness, like
somehow our minds could interact with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, now that's just blowing my mind. This is some
seriously heavy stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a whole different way of looking at the
universe and our place in it.
Speaker 1: So how did he get from all that to actually
building a kozor Rev mirror? What was the connection?
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's how he put it together. He knew
that concave mirrors, right, like the ones you see at
carnivals that make you look all distorted. Yeah, he knew
those could focus light, you know, like using a magnifying
glass to burm stuff with sunlight, so he thought maybe
maybe they could also focus this time.
Speaker 1: Energy he was talking about interesting.
Speaker 2: And he didn't just theorize about it. He actually designed
and patented a device to test it out, this spiral
shaped thing made of metal. And guess what the spiral
was based on.
Speaker 1: Hmm, I don't know. Give me a hint.
Speaker 2: It's a sequence of numbers that shows up all over
in nature, like in seashells and pine cones.
Speaker 1: Fipponacci numbers.
Speaker 2: Bingo, you got it. He believed that specific spiral shape
could actually bend time at a microscopic level, so.
Speaker 1: Basically like a lens to focus something we can't even
see exactly.
Speaker 2: But he didn't stop with just these small devices. He
imagined creating a whole chamber lined with this special mirror material, the.
Speaker 1: Whole room where time would be different inside.
Speaker 2: You got it. He thought you could speed up time
inside the chamber, maybe even allowing people to see or
visit the future.
Speaker 1: Wild, so totally wild. It's like something straight out of
a move. But you know what's funny. The source material
mentioned some interesting historical connections like Nostrodamis. You know, the
guy who made all those predictions. Oh yeah, the prophet,
Well he used this metal egg and a bowl of
water as a magic mirror for his prophecies. And guess what,
both of those are concave shapes.
Speaker 2: So maybe there's something to this concave shape thing.
Speaker 1: And then there's Leonardo da Vinci. He's like the ultimate
invetter genius.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Well he actually sketched out designs for something he called
a mirror chamber.
Speaker 2: Wow, so maybe Kozyrev wasn't completely out there. Maybe these
ideas have been floating around for centuries.
Speaker 1: Right, It's like this ancient fascination with mirrors and their
potential to show us more than just our reflection.
Speaker 2: I like that more than just a reflection. Definitely a
recurring theme throughout history.
Speaker 1: Okay, so fast forward to December nineteen ninety two. Russian
scientists doctor Trevomoff and doctor Kazhniashiv. They're up in this
remote Siberian village called Dixon Way up north right aby
the Arctic Circle. They actually built a cozy red mirror
big enough for a person to sit inside.
Speaker 2: So this wasn't just a tiny lab experana.
Speaker 1: Nope, this was the real deal. And they started getting
some pretty crazy results. Almost immediately, like what, well, people
in the village started seeing these weird disc shaped lights
in the sky UFOs maybe, who knows. They also saw
these balls of energy that would appear and disappear out
of thin air.
Speaker 2: That's bizarre.
Speaker 1: And get this, the northern lights were going absolutely bonkers,
super bright and intense like nothing anyone had ever seen before.
Speaker 2: So this mirror was like affecting the environment around it somehow.
Speaker 1: It seems that way. But it wasn't just the visual stuff.
People started feeling this overwhelming sense of dread, like something
terrible was going to happen.
Speaker 2: That's creepy just thinking about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was apparently really intense, and it wasn't just
a few people. The whole village felt it.
Speaker 2: So they finally convinced some brave souls to go inside
this mirror thing.
Speaker 1: What happened then, Well, things got even weirder. People reported
seeing flashes of energy inside.
Speaker 2: The mirror, like little lightning bolts.
Speaker 1: Yeah kind of. And here's the kicker. The scientists claimed
the mirror was boosting people's psychic powers.
Speaker 2: Like giving them superpowers pretty much.
Speaker 1: They said people could suddenly see things far away like they.
Speaker 2: Were actually there remote viewing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and get this, some people even claim they could
see into the past or the future.
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, now, are we talking about time travel?
Speaker 1: That's what some people were saying. It really makes you
question everything we think we know about time, doesn't it totally?
Speaker 2: It's like our linear way of thinking about time, past, present, future,
It all goes out the window.
Speaker 1: Right. So they're having these wild individual experiences inside the mirror.
But then they took it a step further. How So
they started doing these experiments with two cozy rev mirrors,
one in Dixon and another one hundreds of miles away
in Novosibirsk.
Speaker 2: Okay, so like a long distance connection exactly.
Speaker 1: They wanted to see if they could send messages between
the mirrors just using their minds telepathy yep. And guess
what they that the success rate of sending these messages
was way higher when the Earth's magnetic field was all stirred.
Speaker 2: Up, you mean, like during solar storms.
Speaker 1: Exactly. They were getting success rates of thirty to forty
five percent when there was a lot of solar activity
compared to what well, when the magnetosphere was quiet, the
success rate dropped to almost zero, like less than ten percent.
Speaker 2: That's a huge difference. I can't just be coincidence.
Speaker 1: It really makes you think. Yeah, and remember what Cozy
Rev said about those torsion waves coming from the sun.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the waves that can carry information and maybe
even influence consciousness exactly.
Speaker 1: So maybe those waves were somehow helping to transmit those
psychic messages.
Speaker 2: So the Earth's magnetic field was like amplifying the signal maybe.
Speaker 1: Something like that. It's like the Earth itself was playing
a role in this whole thing. Pretty wild, and it
gets even wilder. They decided to go big with this
whole interconnected consciousness idea. They did this massive experiment with
thousands of people from all over the world.
Speaker 2: Like a global consciousness experiment.
Speaker 1: Precisely, they had two operators in Cozy Rev mirrors trying
to send images out into the Earth's magnetic field, so.
Speaker 2: Like broadcasting a thought to the whole planet.
Speaker 1: In a way. Yeah, and then they had five thousand
people in twelve different countries try to tune into these
images during periods of high magnetospheric activity.
Speaker 2: Wow, and what were the results?
Speaker 1: Get this? They claimed a ninety five percent success rate.
Speaker 2: Ninety five percent. Seriously, that's what they reported. It's almost unbelievable,
it really is.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that they chose times when the Earth's
magnetic field was active, like maybe that's somehow made it
easier for people to connect or something.
Speaker 2: And there's another interesting detail. The researchers noticed that children,
particularly those from families with speechual or shamanic traditions, they
were especially good at picking up these mental images.
Speaker 1: Really, so like some people are naturally more attuned to
this stuff than others, That's what it seems like.
Speaker 2: And there's this one example where the operator in the
mirror focus on a number instead of an image. Yeah,
and the kids participating remotely, they were able to sense
the number and they used a key to match the
number with a symbol and they got it right. They
drove the exact symbol the operator was thinking about.
Speaker 1: Wow, so it wasn't just random images. They were actually
transmitting specific information.
Speaker 2: It really makes you wonder about the potential of human consciousness. Right,
what are we capable of that we haven't even tapped
into yet. That's a big questions, Like we're just scratching
the surface of what our minds can do.
Speaker 1: Okay, so now we're getting into really weird stuff. Yeah,
what happened when people spent a lot of time inside
these cozy ref mirrors?
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So they started having these really strange experiences that they
call being in cozy ref space.
Speaker 2: Cozy ref space sounds kind of trippy.
Speaker 1: It was pretty out there. One of the most common
things people felt was weightlessness, like they were floating or even.
Speaker 2: Flying ooh, like astronauts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of them had vivid visions of
outer space, like they could see stars, planets, even UFOs.
Speaker 2: So the mirror was like transporting them to another reality
in a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like their perception was completely altered. But here's
the really freaky part. People started seeing these glowing symbols
appear inside the mirror.
Speaker 2: Glowing symbols like written language.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were swirling and glowing like they were made
of neon. They documented over two thousand different symbols.
Speaker 2: Two thousand. That's a lot. And what did the symbols mean?
Speaker 1: Well, they had to Linquist analyze them and get this.
Eighty percent of a matched up with symbols from ancient cultures.
Speaker 2: Ancient cultures like what kind.
Speaker 1: Mostly Sumerian symbols from ancient Mesopotamia.
Speaker 2: Whoa hold on now, Sumerian that's like one of the
oldest civilizations we.
Speaker 1: Know of, I know, right. Yeah, it's like this mirror
was somehow tapping into some ancient knowledge or something.
Speaker 2: It's almost like they were accessing the collective unconscious or something.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what was going on. It's pretty mind blowing
to think about.
Speaker 2: So we got weightlessness, space travel, ancient symbols. Anything else
we need to add to this list of crazy experiences?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's one more thing, and it's probably the
creepiest of all. A lot of people claimed they felt
the presence of other beings inside the Kozyrev space.
Speaker 2: Other beings like what aliens, not exactly.
Speaker 1: They call them observers, and they described them as humanoid
figures made of light.
Speaker 2: Humanoid figures made of light. That's both fascinating and terrifying
at the same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty unsettling. Apparently about two thirds of the
participants said they felt these observers.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't just a few people. This was a
common experience, and.
Speaker 1: Some people even tried to communicate with them.
Speaker 2: And did they get any responses?
Speaker 1: Some people claim they did, but the messages were usually
cryptic or symbolic, like warnings or prophecies.
Speaker 2: Warnings like what kind of warnings?
Speaker 1: Well, one person said an observer told them about a
future disaster that's going to happen to Earth.
Speaker 2: That's pretty heavy stuff. It's hard to know what to
make of that kind.
Speaker 1: Of thing, right, Is it a real prediction or just
some kind of metaphor? Who knows?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely open to interpretation. But let's move on
to something even more mind boggling. What about the claims
of time travel?
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is where things get really wild. Over
forty percent of the people who went inside the Cozy
rev Mirrors claim they experienced some form of time travel.
Speaker 2: Time travel seriously.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Some people said they saw events from their own
past lives, like watching.
Speaker 2: A movie, like reliving their past.
Speaker 1: Others said they felt like they were interacting with their
younger selves.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's intense.
Speaker 1: And then there were some people who claimed they actually
projected their consciousness into the past, like one woman felt
like she was an advisor to Genghis Khan.
Speaker 2: Genghis Khan, the Mongol warlord.
Speaker 1: The One and Only. Others said they felt like they
were living in the Middle Ages or the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2: So they weren't just observing the past, they were actually
experiencing it.
Speaker 1: That's what they said. It's pretty much impossible to prove
or disprove, but it's a pretty consistent theme in these
Cozy rev Mirror experiments.
Speaker 2: It really makes you wonder, what if time isn't as
linear as we think it is.
Speaker 1: Right, what if it's more like a fluid thing we
can somehow navigate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a mind bending thought.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've talked about the experiments and the crazy
experiences people had, But why did they choose to do
all this in Dixon, this remote arctic village.
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't just a random location. They picked Dixon
because of the permafrost.
Speaker 1: Permafrost, what's they got to do with time travel?
Speaker 2: Well, the researchers had this theory that when water freezes
in permafrost, it traps time, energy and information from that era.
Speaker 1: So like a time capsule in the ice kinda.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they thought that when the permafrost thaws, that
energy gets released.
Speaker 1: And maybe that energy was somehow interacting with the Cozy
rev mirror.
Speaker 2: That was their idea. It's pretty far out there, but
who knows, maybe there's something to it.
Speaker 1: So basically they thought the Arctic was like this giant
reservoir of time energy just waiting to be tapped into.
Speaker 2: A pretty wild concept for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got these mind blowing experiments, these incredible claims,
But did the scientific community take any of this seriously?
Speaker 2: Well not really. Most mainstream scientists kind of dismissed it
as pseudoscience.
Speaker 1: Not surprising, I guess it's pretty hard to swallow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was one group that was definitely interested,
the CIA.
Speaker 1: The CIA, what were they doing snooping around and all this.
Speaker 2: Well, they've always been interested in stuff that pushes the boundaries,
you know, like psychic abilities and mind control. That's their
mo So when they heard about these cozy rav mirror experiments,
they were intrigued. Declassified documents show that they were looking
into it pretty seriously.
Speaker 1: So maybe they thought they could weaponize it or something,
who knows.
Speaker 2: But it's interesting that they took it seriously enough to investigate,
even if most scientists didn't.
Speaker 1: It's like they were thinking, hey, what if there's something
to this, we better find out before someone else does.
Speaker 2: Exactly. It makes you wonder what they might have discovered
that they're still keeping secret.
Speaker 1: So even though mainstream science hasn't really embraced Kuzirav's ideas,
there have been some recent developments that kind of support
some of this concepts.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like what, well.
Speaker 1: Some scientists at the City University of they did an
experiment where they managed to make an electromagnetic wave travel
backwards in time.
Speaker 2: Backwards in time, seriously, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's pretty mind blowing. They used a special material called
a meta material, and they were able to manipulate the
wave so it looked like he was going back in time.
Speaker 2: Now, that sounds a lot like what kozy Rep was
talking about with time not being linear and all that.
Speaker 1: Exactly. It's not exactly the same thing as his time energy,
but it shows that maybe manipulating time isn't as impossible
as we thought.
Speaker 2: It's definitely a step in that direction. And what about
the more practical applications of Kozirov's theories, like predicting earthquakes.
Speaker 1: Well, there's actually some evidence that his ideas might be
useful for that.
Speaker 2: Remember doctor Trevmov, Yeah, the guy who did the experiments
with doctor kaznish Us.
Speaker 1: He's reportedly been using Cozier's principles to predict earthquakes, and
he's getting a much higher success rate than traditional methods.
Speaker 2: Really, so maybe there's some practical value to all this
crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: After all, it's definitely possible. It just needs more research
and verification.
Speaker 2: But imagine if we could actually predict earthquakes accurately. That
would be a game changer.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it could save countless lives.
Speaker 2: And that's just one potential application. People have talked about
using Kozierf's theories for everything from space travel to human
health and aging.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty bold vision. The idea that we could
harness this time energy to benefit humanity.
Speaker 2: Very bold vision. But the original researchers also warned about
the potential dangers of this technology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said it could be misused if it fell
into the wrong and.
Speaker 2: Exactly, like imagine someone using it for mind control or
to gain power over others. That's a scary thought.
Speaker 1: It's like any powerful technology, it can be used for
good or for evil.
Speaker 2: And that's why they advocated for making this knowledge open
and accessible to everyone, so no one group.
Speaker 1: Or individual would have a monopoly on it.
Speaker 2: Exactly. They believed that open collaboration was the best way
to ensure that this technology would be used responsibly.
Speaker 1: So what do you think after going through all this?
Is it all just a bunch of crazy talk or
could there be something real here?
Speaker 2: It's definitely a lot to take in, right from these
radical theories to the mind blowing experiments. It's hard to
know what to believe.
Speaker 1: It really challenges everything we think we know about reality.
Speaker 2: But that's what makes it so fascinating. It forces us
to question our assumptions and to consider possibilities that seem impossible.
Speaker 1: And even if some of these claims are a bit
too far out there, the fact that the CIA was
interested is pretty intriguing.
Speaker 2: Definitely, it makes you wonder what they saw in this
research that most scientists missed.
Speaker 1: So regardless of whether you believe any of this or not,
I think it's safe to say that this deep dive
has opened up some pretty mind bending possibilities.
Speaker 2: It definitely has, and it makes you wonder what other
mysteries are out there just waiting to be discovered exactly.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're just at the beginning of understanding the true
nature of time and consciousness and.
Speaker 2: The potential that lies within us.
Speaker 1: Right, maybe there's a whole universe of possibilities that we
haven't even imagined yet.
Speaker 2: It's a humbling thought, and a very exciting one.
Speaker 1: Is thanks for taking us on this deep dive. It's
been quite a journey.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. I'm glad we could explore this together.
Speaker 1: I think our listeners are going to have a lot
to think about after this one, I hope.
Speaker 2: So it's good to challenge our perspectives every now and then.
Speaker 1: You got that right, Well, until next time. Keep those
minds open, and keep exploring the unknown, and keep looking.
Speaker 2: In those mirrors. You never know what you might see.