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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best

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in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world.

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Scary Era Era is the Irish or Gaelic word for Ireland.

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Paranormal means all the things that are impossible to explain

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by non natural forces or by science, and Ireland is

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steep and lower, ghosts, blood, sweat, tears, sacrifice, hunger, desperation

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and charm. Oh and the paranormal. Welcome to Scary Era,

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Mark Manning. Now, if it's offbeat, odd or unusual and

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most importantly Irish centric, you need to talk to this guy.

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He is the creator behind the Weird Art Ireland podcast,

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and as well as that, he's even published a book

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called the same name, Weird Ireland. Hello Brinsley McNamara.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Mark, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: We shall proceed because you are one dynamic content creator.

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Tell people about your stats. You've grown in a short

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while on the likes of Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 2: Oh. Well, let's see so on on Instagram with the

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minute it stands at three hundred and eighteen thousand followers

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on TikTok to eighty one thousand. There's YouTube as well.

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I upload YouTube show. So that's over at about nearly

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fourteen thousand at the moment, and yeah, those were the

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main ones there, and that's since January of twenty twenty

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fourth or thirteen months. And you know, we've got the

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book out Weird Ireland and Unofficial Guide of the Island

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on the podcast Weird Ireland that you can get on Spotify,

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Apple and Music. There is lots of other places to

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get podcasts by get everything that Spotify's I can never

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remember the dame. So yeah, that's where we're sitting at

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the minute with all the Weird Ireland stuff.

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Speaker 1: So you got big fast. That's amazing. You just created,

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you threw it out there and it took off. Would

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that be a correct summarization.

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Speaker 2: That's a good way of putting it. I mean, it

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isn't a way. You know, the expression in overnight success

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is years in the baking.

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Speaker 1: It's very true for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I suppose here because I mean, if you were

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to look at just from the Weird Ireland side of it,

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because that started in January twenty twenty four, but by

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March twenty twenty four there was over two hundred thousand followers,

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I could just that would seem like an overnight success

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in that regard, only taking seven weeks to get that far.

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But really I'd started years before that an Instagram page

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called Weird West Meats, and that started in twenty twenty.

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That never got as big, but because I did it

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for so long and it was a pretty similar thing,

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and I did after a couple of years that had

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tiktoks about as well. But because of it that for years,

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it meant that I got a lot better at making videos.

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I got a lot better at making content. I got

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a lot better at making it a catchier and snappier.

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So when Weird Ireland started, I already had a very

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well worked out idea of what makes good videos, what

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cats attention, what's good branding. If I hadn't done all that,

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it wouldn't have gotten it wouldn't have successful as quickly

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as the day baby.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask a question about Weird West Meath? Go ahead, Well,

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I found this weird You have there a coat of arms. Now,

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in coat of arms often you see crossed swords and

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shields and nights suits of armor and stuff. But you

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had crossed crutches.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, right, right, yeah, yeah, what.

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Speaker 1: Is that about?

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Speaker 2: That's jeez? That's from that's from a few years ago.

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That's just I was making a new logo for Weird

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West Meats because honestly, the very original logo was a

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glitch photograph from my phone because I used to have

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an old waway phone that was glitch. Yeah, but I

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made some cool glitch pictures. I was just trying to

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come up with a new one that I'm dealer. Do

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you ever watch the TV show jack Ass or see

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the movies?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't for me, but I remember that the

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kind of student to humor, wasn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, childish even I would say, yeah, although watch

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when I was very very little. But the logo of

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that TV show is a skull and crossboats and instead

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of crossboat to cross like, what do you call them

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walking sticks or what do you call them routes? Yeah, crutches, crutches,

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crutches yeah yeah, yeah, because they they injured themselves so

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much in the show. So I just fired up. I

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just and then I put a swan instead of a skull,

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because the swan is like the animal of me. I

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was just throwing something out there for the crack basically,

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although I will say that picture that you mentioned on

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Weird with Me. That's the very first time I used

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the expression, Well, my name is Bringsley McNamara and welcome

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to Weird. In that case west Meat, which is how

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I open all the videos now these days and Weird Ireland.

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Speaker 1: Hang on, yeah, no, you're famous for that intro. Say

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Speaker 2: Well, my name is brings Damara and when the Weird Ireland,

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I love it. That comes from that comes from Jackass.

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That comes from Johnny Knoxtill, the whole. He would open

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every episode and open pretty much all of his skits

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by say hi, I'm johnnyk Noxtill, bucking the Jackass. So

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it's just my own interpolation of act. I don't know.

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I like to show the kind of inspired me a lot. However,

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that coat of arms thing that you mentioned is pretty

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much the first usage of that, but it's back in

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Weird look at me? Now?

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Speaker 1: What's in a name? So it's not your reen name.

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It's a pseudonym, isn't it mc namara. What's the story

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behind that?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Why, well, the longer story behind that. It's so

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the name comes from the do you know the author?

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Brinsley McNamara have you get him from upon him? Have you?

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Speaker 1: Or the Valley of the Squinting Windows?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So. Brindley McNamara was a wet

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Meat author. He died in nineteen sixty three and his

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biggest book is the one you named there about it,

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The Squinting Windows. First book. It actually came out in

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like nineteen nineteen or nineteen eighteen. It's a very old book,

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wasn't it. It was controversial specifically in Delvin, where he

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was from. I wasn't really controversial outside of that he's

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from he's from a town. He's from a village called

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delv but it's still not a big places, they say.

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The controversy surrounding it was that. So in the book

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Valley of Squinting Windows, it's based in the Irish village.

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which is not realplace.

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Speaker 1: What county is it in Brinsley?

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Speaker 2: You know what Delvin? In real lifes in West Meat?

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I can't think if in Valley's Quintin Windows the village

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is Garrett Drymna. I'm not sure if he ever distinctly

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says what county it did. I'm one hundred percent sure

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on that. That's a really good question. But if you,

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from there, it's pretty clear that he's writing about where

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he's from. Even makes reference to a Norman castle in

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the middle of the village built by Hugh de Lacey.

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castle in Delvin built by Hugi Lazy. But outside of that,

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the controversy was. For example, he talks about the woman

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who the postmistress in Delvin at the time, and if

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she saw a letter coming into the post office that

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had handwriting on it that she was unfamiliar with, she

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would she'd get nosed. He should go to her kitchen,

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which is just in just the next door. She turned

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on the kettle. Use this team to open the letter,

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that that are on time to the people at the time.

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the books on it there was a lead that the

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author's dad was a teacher at the time in Delvin,

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and all the parents stopped letting the schools go in

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there at the school and all the kids go into

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his class, so I think he couldn't get paid. There

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controversial for decades. Apparently for decades after the book came out. Yeah,

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well you have a people would go visiting there's the

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weekend just to see if they can spot the characters

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in the book. They wouldn't have the same it's very

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very much so, very much so yeah, yeah, very yeah.

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That's not his real name. The original Brinstey McNamara's name

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is John Weldon. It's just his pen name and I

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got it just because back in twenty twenty one to

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Weird West Needs, I was applying to do a heritage

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project for National Heritage Week and instead of putting my

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real name at the time, I just used Brinsley McNamara

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just because I happened to be reading Values Went Widows

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at the time. It's just one that it's just stuff

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to be honest every cent years later, Well.

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Speaker 1: There's a story behind everything. Let's refocus here on on

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the real business to hand. On a scale of one

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to ten, with ten being really far out there weird.

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How weird is Ireland?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good question. I'm going to say. I'm

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going to give you maybe a slightly disappointing answer, but

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it a five. If you say Bhutan, I'll give it

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a five. If you say the UK, I'll give it

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a five. The only reason being that I think everywhere

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has got a pace level amount of weirdness, And I

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on one end of the scale you've got weirdness, and

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then on the other end it got familiarity. If you're very,

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very familiar with the place, then nothing really about it's

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Angelus on the National broad Character or the TV like

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Speaker 1: And there's a part of me, you know, that still

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stops in my tracks and finds myself and my shivering shorts.

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the Angelus and these days to go. You know, these

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days you hear a lot of out we're very multicultural now,

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and it's almost like, you know, well, hang on a second.

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You know what it was. It was just a moment

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of contemplace and revelation and your place in the world.

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the court because it's not popular anymore, it will be

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a very very sad day the Angelus.

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don't even realize it's just on the background now. But

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hang on, it's just not a little bit odd. Or

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the TV and like there's no explanation if you've never

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seen it before and it just comes on TV in

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between an AD break and a TV show, you're like,

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it's just going to be this load of silence, loads

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of gongs of the bell and people looking at things

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and then it'll move on to the Spee show or

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the news, and would you'd probably just turn to somebody

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and say, what was that? Like? What was just that

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load of quietness with Bell's gang in for a minute? Like,

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weird at all. Someone is not familiar with it, it's

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going to seem very very odd. And that's the world over.

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Speaker 1: Well and you and you said a very true thing there.

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the calling to prayer, And as you say, it's the

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our case it was very electronic ahead of its time.

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a little bit in university before secondary or that I

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had all the Horbite History or I was collecting collecting

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the Horble History vacazine if you remember those.

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Speaker 1: Subsequently, of course, in more recent times you've got like

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a little TV kids Chowsen.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah them people always say the TV shows. I

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was like when I was in my twenties, so I

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never saw that the magazines I all had before that

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there was, but.

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Speaker 1: That's what got you into it. Tell me about the

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surroundings then in West Meads, what would have been a

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go to place for the young Brinsley McNamara.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me see here, So Mullingar Town will say

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that that's where I lived, that where I still lives,

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That's where I'm from. So if we all the hinterlands

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around there. I mean I can remember a particular day

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in two thousand and three when my granddad brought us

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on kind of like an original weird West me tour.

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a hill. Now, West Mead is actually generally speaking of

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really really flat place. Some people call it the flattest

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county in Ireland because the highest hill in county West Meads,

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Mulga Meade, is the shortest of the highest hills in

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each county. So a lot of here a flat, but

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the Hililara not very high. But because West Meads so

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not hilly, you've actually a pretty god view when you're

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up there. But anyways, on top of the Hillinlara, there's

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a Saint Patrick chair, not St Patrick chair. In Ireland

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there's it's also so many Saint Patrick's chairs, or Saint

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Patrick's seats or Saint Patrick's throne. It's like a couple

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of stones in the shape of the seat, and the

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legend goes that Saint Patrick's sat there one time to

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rest himself on his way to Ishnach, the hill of

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Ishnack in West Mea. Then ever since then it's a

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cure for a back ache. I remember being shown that

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a long time ago. I think the most iconic weird

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thing in westle is just outside Mollegar, Canada's pretty close.

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It's just called the beehive. It's a mausoleum in the

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shape of bee hive. When I say that, when the

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first time somebody told me it's a mausoleum the shape

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of beehive, I just thought me like the size the headstone.

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Though it's huge, it's like the size of a small room.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: It's a resting place of three people. There's three people

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interred in it, a father and son. Robert cooked the father,

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Adolphus cooked the son, and then the third The third

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person is a woman who was not Adolphus Cook's mother,

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who was like a nurse or something. She was who

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but who raised him. Mostly anyways, here's what happened. They

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were rich landowners out there at the time, and Adolphus

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Cook the Sun was under the impression he was the

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eccentric guy. He was under the impression that, well his

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father Lobber died, Robert would be reincarnated as to be.

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So he had his modoley and built in the shape

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of a bee hive. Adult's cup was building a mauslene

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for himself when he died, but it was it was

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going to be. There's a lot of different with different

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stories behind us, but either way it never got finished.

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So many died. That's plubbing with the father as well.

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It's still there. It really is a marvel. And yeah,

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that's one of the weird things outside west of me.

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That's kind of like that's the very first weird way

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to be post fair as that one. So that's like

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kind of the yard and over the way, wow to

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be or not to be?

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Speaker 1: Huh? And tell me as well, would it be old

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kind of graveyards?

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Speaker 2: And there full of them, absolutely full of them. The

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bee House modelium and in an old graveyard. It's kind

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of you to go through some farmland to get to it.

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In fairness now, but I'm pretty sure you've accessed that graveyard,

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a very old one. You've got some more life think,

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got some really good old graveyards in bally Moore can

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do as me. You've got a very old abandoned church,

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you know, roof gone off kind of thing, not in

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use whatsoever anymore trees going inside of it, and you've

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a very old graveyard surrounding it. There was actually a

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few years ago, in twenty twenty one, I think there

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was a stone in the shape of the head found

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like a person's head found around there. I'm not sure

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if they ever figured out what it was for I

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think they just thought it was part of an older

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church or something like that. I haven't been able to

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find that recently, but that was out in Valley More

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County West. Leave otherworld graveyards. Oh, there's one cool one

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in Castletown, Gagan, the County West Meat. They do all

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very small village. Now there's a graveyard with some very

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old medieval ruins inside of it. Actually, but one of

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the most interesting parts of the graveyard is that it

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was so overgrown. It's in the middle of the towns,

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right in the main street, so it was so overgrown

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for so long. And when the historic graveyard is overgrown

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like that, you're not really allowed to, you know, remove

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the weeds and remove the vines off because it can

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damage graves and then damage structure is more so. So

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what they did was they left. They put a lot

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of golds in there, and the ghosts lived there years now.

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And what the goals do is they eat. They eat

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the weeds, they eat the vine, they eat things growing

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on the graves, on the structures, but they don't damage

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to sure or at least a ghosts not liable if

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it gets damaged because it's the ghast it's livestock, so

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even if you go there to this day, it's the

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Ghast Coast living on this graveyard.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Actually Clan mcnoise is that knocking around your neck

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of the woods as well as it.

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Speaker 2: Now that's in County Opoly, but it is pretty close

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to Westley. It's very close to Westleat. Actually it's on

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the River Shannon coming down from that flows, but that

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is in County Opolely up we will go. I will

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not attempt to seal that month from Opoli, but that's

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an interesting place too. I was there just really recently.

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I mean Colon mc noise, for anyone who does know,

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is a probably one of the most famous airly medieval

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monasteries in Ireland. I think that's safe to say. It's

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a ruin right now. It's on the banks of the

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River Shannon. Would have been very significant at times. There's

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an interpretive center of it now very well known for

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thy Cross. It's gigantic high Cross is. The reason I

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was there was because one of the ruined church buildings

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has an artway in it and my mom told me

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this story from years ago that the crevices that are

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built in the art way, like the channel. Seemingly if

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one person stands on one side of the art and

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the other person on the other side, maybe like a

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meter or a meter and a half away from each other,

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and if one person whispers into the channel and the

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other person on the other side puts their ear into

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the channel, the whisper will travel along the channel and

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you'll be able to hear somebody from farther away. I

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went to drive this out, and I'm pretty sure it

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does work. It's a real phenomenon. And that's not the

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only place that happened. It's called sound waves or sound

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waves something I can't remember the name, but say false

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to people in London. Had somewhere else does it? Two?

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And there's a there's an area of the New York Metro.

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I think that does it too, or travel sound can

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travel unusually long because of the architecture.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like a portal in real tone little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a sound portal. What some people One story totally

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unverified as far as I'm aware, is that priests would

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listen to confession at this doorway, but they would specifically

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listen to it for lepers because they couldn't be right

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next to a leper or that where you can getting

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the infection, so instead they would do it sways that

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give small distance for each other. I don't know if

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that's verified at all, but very fun story. And once

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I have heard about whispering archway climate noise.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to strange things, is there anything really

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strange that jumps out of your place, names that are strange, whatever?

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Speaker 2: Let me think, surprisingly enough this has comes to mind.

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I mean, just because you mentioned play Dames, nobody's asked

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me that day that question so much. There's a town

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in Limericks just called hospital.

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Speaker 1: Huh, I'm going to hospital. What's wrong with you? You're

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going to nothing. I'm just going to hospital.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think there's a hospital in the hospital either.

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Speaker 1: But it could have been a hospitable or a hospital

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order of the nights perhaps. You see the.

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Speaker 2: Hospital orders are cross U when I look at it.

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I've not been there yet. I've not played a video

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there yet. But you're reminding me that somebody sent me

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a little bit ago. The place I often say for

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me is like the strangest place just kind of uncanny

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is Knock County. You know where the asperation of area

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appeared in the nineteenth century, late nineteenth century. I mean

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even outside of the operation, which you could call out

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or not odd, but that's for to me, that's not

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really the kind of strange thing about the place. I mean,

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operations happened, but Knock was, when it happened, a small

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village and it is still a small village. Yet it's

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a small village that has a five thousand capacity cathedrals

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in it that's empty a lot of the time. It

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had in total like four churches in it. Like it

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has water taps of holy water, presumably infinite and I

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don't know how you blessed that much of it in

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one go. It has a I haven't seen a nun

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in Ireland in literally decades until I was in not

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just this summer gone and there was nobody else there,

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but there was nuns there. There was a brother there

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as well. There's a bunk there in their in their garbs.

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You go to the shops then you can buy all

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the kind of kids Catholic paraphernalia that you know, you

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can only really get in places like Knock. So it's

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got this really cool but like weird, uncanny place, you know,

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energy to at least that's what I think about absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And Brinsley are missing a trick. It has its own airport.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's an airport, Yeah, I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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that's something I gotta I gotta go to knock airport

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and actually and actually make a video about that and all.

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You're right, I always forget that bit. It has its

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own airport. Technically, I think it's called Ireland West Airport

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and it's meant to like it's.

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Speaker 1: A decent sized one. What you say was, wasn't there

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a bishop or something behind that he pushed it at

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the time.

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Speaker 2: There is, there is nearly. I nearly had his name

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in my head. There nearly had his name there. He

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actually he used to use to organize dances in up

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around that part of me, oh, because that was kind

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of a thing back in back in that year there

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was dance halls and uh and a lot of time

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churches would your priests would would kind of organize and

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monitor them.

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Speaker 1: That's are going on monitor In other words, when the

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slow set came up, you know, they had to keep

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a respectable distance between men and women, the priest would interfere,

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you know, which is uh huh. Subsequent events and have

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proved would probably be a bit bit hypocritical, but we

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will go there.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, so so pretty recently actually that that came.

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The reason that was was because that came into law

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in the nineteen twenties or thirties in Ireland. That had

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to be done through this shirt. It was a podcast

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I recorded with somebody who was a Shadows dancer a

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few weeks ago and I've not listened back to it since.

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I don't remember exactly what she said, but I need

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to look at that. But anyways, this guy, the Montenior

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that Spearhead of the Knock Airport used to it wasn't

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horror was it Horror Monster Horne? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Was that who it was? I wonder?

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Speaker 2: I think that was the Ni Horror.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was my sheer force of you know,

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like hitlarian will that he made that, he made it happen.

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Speaker 2: You know, there is one famous story at a dance

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hall there that you know, the whole thing when somebody

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comes into a game of poker, somebody comes into a

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dance hall and they've got your look down and instead

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of feet, they've got hood. Yet a very genuine episode

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relating to that in in that part of me, know

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where a dance. He was organized and that happened. I

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remember looking into that for a good while, so I

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don't know. That's another odd thing attached to philosophies.

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing I've discovered in Scary Era is pretty

469
00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:11,400
much every county in Ireland has a story about hoofs

470
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,240
on visitors are arriving in the middle of the night.

471
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,839
You can go from the hell Fire Club to loftus Hole,

472
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,200
so various parts of Ireland and you'll pick up that story.

473
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,079
By the way, something is said there. Just did you

474
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,920
say shan nos dancer? Yeah, yeah, Well now shan nose

475
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,039
that's the Gaelic for old ways, right, so, and I

476
00:21:32,279 --> 00:21:36,240
would associate that normally with storytelling. You know they fit

477
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,200
they shanni key and that kind of thing. But you're

478
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,599
saying shan Nos dancer might sound a bit of a

479
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,880
pedestrian question. But what what's the Shanno's answer?

480
00:21:46,079 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: I believe me I did. I did answer that, because

481
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,640
I'm no answer myself, and she did an answer. Not

482
00:21:50,759 --> 00:21:52,359
I've not It's it's been a few weeks. I've not

483
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,240
gone back to listen to it yet because I've held

484
00:21:54,279 --> 00:21:56,079
it yet, so I can't remember what you said exactly.

485
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,319
But it's a as far as I can remember and

486
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,960
tell it, the let's structured version of a what's the

487
00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:05,240
term vernacular Irish style dancing, and it'll be very different

488
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,119
depending on whether you learned it off somebody in County

489
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,400
Clay or somebody in County done it all. It'll have

490
00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:11,640
very different moves and styles to it. But I think

491
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,680
it's less structure than you know, a traditional Irish set dancing.

492
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,519
It looks very different spiritual our set dancing, and it

493
00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:22,000
wouldn't be as a structure with thignasure moves in it,

494
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,599
I don't. I think that's kind of what our remember

495
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,960
being caught. I have to be honest.

496
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:29,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ireland, Well I think it is. It

497
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,960
might be a five on your scale, but it can

498
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,480
be pretty bizarre, pretty bizarre at times. I once heard

499
00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:39,279
of a dance called a Crumblin shuffle, which I but

500
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,079
I can't. I would not go into details here because

501
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,279
this podcast would not be on the air if I did,

502
00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:48,319
so we leave that cryptical thing hanging in the air.

503
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,599
Actually strange. Is there a castle Strange? Somebody said that

504
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,880
to me recently, that.

505
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: There is there is It's in rock Common. Yeah, the

506
00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:59,599
castle Strange Yeah, it's next to the River Souck. It's

507
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,240
the castle itself. I don't know that much about. But

508
00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:06,799
there's a Castle Strange Stone which is on the land

509
00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:09,400
of Castle Strange. I presume I'm going to guess Castle

510
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,559
Strange Castle as a ruin now or it turned there,

511
00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:14,599
or it's been red backed. Somebody lives in the stone.

512
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,400
The Castle Strange Stone. I made a video there, That's

513
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,119
why I know about it. It's what they call a

514
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,359
Latine stone. It's got the Latini style on it and

515
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,880
actually is iron age stone that has these markings, but

516
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,039
I'm not really sure what it is. There's of the

517
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,880
Latinny stones in Ireland. There's there's only like four of them,

518
00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:33,400
ones in rough Common, the Castle Strange Stone, one's in Calvin.

519
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,599
I think it's in the Camden County Museum in Balley

520
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,920
James stuff. And the other ones are not one hundred

521
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,599
percent sure, but yeah, there is a Castle Strange and

522
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,839
the Castle six Strange Stone.

523
00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: Strange.

524
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe the family name was less Strange. You

525
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,680
ever hear somebody I did?

526
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:53,759
Speaker 1: I'll I knew of a far chief in Ireland called

527
00:23:53,839 --> 00:23:57,880
the Strange, probably the Strange and I can still see

528
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,680
that because it's dating from my business career many many

529
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:04,279
moons ago, and he was based out in this huge

530
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,519
old place. I think it had been an old orphanage

531
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,039
or something up around oh RAHEMI type direction. Anyway, So

532
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,799
I'm going off from one of my tangents, and I

533
00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:15,480
don't mean to kick myself back into kilter really quickly.

534
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,960
You're saying it's spreaking of strange and French sounding names,

535
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:24,000
et cetera. The language of Ireland, the actual the verbosity,

536
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,559
they're strange dialects and stuff in Ireland. Are there any

537
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,119
languages besides Gaelic.

538
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: I've actually want to do a video series on the

539
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,519
language of Ireland. So there's naturally there's English the most

540
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:36,440
spoken one, then with Irish with the monster Ulster and

541
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:39,519
Colic dialects. Then we have Ulster scott which I wish

542
00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:41,880
I knew more about actually live in Scotland where they

543
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,799
do speak to Gotts and some Pats as well. I

544
00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:45,319
wishing you more about it, like to go into it.

545
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:48,000
I don't know if you're getting that Yola by any chance.

546
00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:52,680
The language spoken in that was spoken in south east

547
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,799
County Wexford from the twelfth and the nineteenth centuries. Wow,

548
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,440
I don't care about that one, have you?

549
00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:02,039
Speaker 1: Was it a kind of an englishized English eat thing?

550
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 2: Though it was all English? It was basically Old England.

551
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,799
Speaker 1: Was English, right, Okay?

552
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: It was all English that came over in the Norman

553
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,279
the Norman invasion of the eleven sixty nine settled there

554
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:16,440
at the time, but it became a language isolate because

555
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:20,400
apparently from the rest of Ireland, south East County Wexford

556
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,799
was kind of hard to get to for up until

557
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:25,880
the nineteenth century, so meant to without outside contact, it

558
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,480
just became a language isolate. There's even records of English speakers,

559
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:31,960
either people from England or English speakers of Ireland in

560
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:35,119
the sixteenth century traveling down to southeast Wexford, and even

561
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,799
they say they reported the people down there talk as

562
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:39,839
if it's as if it's the times to chatter. They

563
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,000
talked like two hundred years ago. That's extinct now. And

564
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:44,559
when I think in the nineteenth century and I'm trying

565
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:46,079
to remember some of the words from it, there's not

566
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,119
a full there's no full dictionary of Yola, and some

567
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,839
very small aspect of the language has maintained and help

568
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,400
people talk down there, but there is some sources on

569
00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:57,160
it the week, and we can see how they talk.

570
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,279
One is like they put a different streath onto parts

571
00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:02,279
of the world. Somebody said was Robert, they wouldn't call

572
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:04,839
them Robert to be row back, or something that put

573
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:07,400
the second syllable instead of the first syllable of words

574
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:10,000
like that. There's quite a few people tried to pull

575
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:13,400
apart how the language works, but there's no authentic all

576
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,359
your recording to someone speaking it. Weirdly enough, single in

577
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,680
County Dublin used to have the same thing. Bengalian, which

578
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:21,319
was the same thing as Yola, was an old English

579
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,000
language isolates, but it died out before Yola, and we

580
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,640
know we've wig resources about that, so Yola Bengalian probably

581
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,440
if you weirdly look back in back in the Middle

582
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,720
Ages when after the Normans came and they brought over

583
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:37,119
from the Old English with them, but the majority language

584
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,000
spoken by i mean the lords was French. So there

585
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,000
was there was a time in the Middle Ages where

586
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,359
English and French and Irish would have been all, you know,

587
00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:47,480
kind of competed to be the main language in the country.

588
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,400
And at least one of the left over phrases we

589
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,160
have from it is didn't even ever call you a

590
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,480
gosson fin any chance matter?

591
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:55,559
Speaker 1: Can you refuse to be intimidated? But can you repeat

592
00:26:55,599 --> 00:27:00,240
that at what a gosson? Well, it's a is it?

593
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,240
It's not not like a garsoon no, a young fella,

594
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:03,960
A young fellow.

595
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, is that it? I mean, my dad

596
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,640
is not all my life. But apparently that's where it

597
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,799
comes from from the French in the Middle Ages. Yeah.

598
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:12,839
Speaker 1: But it's like when you click your fingers in a restaurant,

599
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,559
you're being really ignorant, but you think have been really

600
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,319
cool and you go gason. I think it's a variation

601
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,200
of that, maybe so maybe so.

602
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:21,559
Speaker 2: One of the reasons people think it maintains is because

603
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,680
like a Norman lord French speaking would say it to

604
00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:26,759
a local retainer and the local retailer, which I see

605
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,920
themselves being called boy over and over again. It's being

606
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,359
called gas on over and over again in the words

607
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,920
that they would say to each Other's kind of make

608
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,480
fun to make fun of it still stuck.

609
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's like when there's a fight breaking out

610
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,200
or something and someone goes, listen, boy, you always kind

611
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,519
of stop. You always like to stop on your tracks,

612
00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:48,079
you know, boy, Garson. I have a theory. Was it Yola?

613
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:51,160
Was the language? Was it? I feel that just moved

614
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:54,680
northwards to kind of dorky area. It kind of became

615
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:57,599
west because you got that west breath thing going on,

616
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,000
don't you.

617
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't. It's Docky in Dublin.

618
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know the whole you know, dort languages

619
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:09,799
that's known to Dart Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean I

620
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,000
think that's what's that is that Irish people trying to

621
00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:17,759
be English or are trying to up their class or something.

622
00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:21,599
Speaker 2: Is it? Or I'm sure I wouldn't be surprised. I

623
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,079
never I have heard before the explanation, the defour action.

624
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,720
I'm not the most familiar with it, to be honest,

625
00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:29,640
or something like that. Or I don't know.

626
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: Listen, you've hit on something here. Okay, so I'm narrator

627
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,759
for I'm not going to get into the stats, but

628
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,640
it's quite popular. Every week on Sunday there's a publication

629
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:47,119
on a YouTube channel called fact Feast. Okay fact Feast,

630
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,799
and yours truly is the narrator for it, and it's very,

631
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:54,839
very very popular. Well, you know, within the first hour

632
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,680
you'll usually see three thousand hits, you know, brit Yeah,

633
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,920
and and you know there are instances there where we've

634
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,960
over a million hits. Now, I started out with that

635
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:09,359
guy we've never met. It's all electronic. He sends the scripts,

636
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,480
I do the narration, and I remember initially thinking he's

637
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,599
wasting his money here, but hey, business is business, you know.

638
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:19,799
And we tried all kinds of things Roman, Britain, this,

639
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:21,880
that and the other, and I'd be giving it all

640
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,359
that for the you know, the microphone, but he hit

641
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:29,079
on Victorian England and that was a bit like your

642
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:32,400
weird Ireland light, the touch paper and stand back. It

643
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:35,359
just blew up. So anyway, why am I going there?

644
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,839
Not the publicized fact feast. But he regularly pulls me

645
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,720
up on things like pronunciations of I'd say ladder, he says,

646
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:46,279
you know, he sends in his corrections it's ladder. Same

647
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,480
with Dadda, same with butter. I would say butter or

648
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:53,960
Eland butter right, he'd say butter, and make sure, make

649
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:56,079
sure you do it. Oh god, I get pulled up

650
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:58,039
on it all the time. Anyway. Listen, we're going all

651
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,279
linguistic here, and we don't. We don't mean to be

652
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,559
so when Brinsley McNamara decides to research something. What's the

653
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:06,319
process for that?

654
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: Let me see here. I mean, for example, in two

655
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:12,839
days time, I'm going to County Tyrone and County from

656
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:15,920
End on the way and the two videos already have

657
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:18,240
in mind there but on you know, looking at the

658
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:19,640
route going to be going, You're going to see what

659
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,559
stuff's on the way. Let's say we picked some of

660
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,319
a look of interest. Honestly, I'm going to trace trade

661
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:26,079
the root of Google Maps, because the aunt see in

662
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:28,160
Google Maps you won't believe. And then the two other

663
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,880
most valuable resources. Number one really is archaeology.

664
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: Dot I e yeh, tell me, tell me about archaeology.

665
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,599
Get quick story about archaeology dot I. Okay, is this

666
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,240
the one with all the red dots on it and stuff? Okay?

667
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:47,920
Somebody gave me a metal detector right as a Christmas

668
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,400
present about five or six years ago. For about three

669
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,799
or four years, it sat in its box all right,

670
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,759
and one day I decided, you know what, or I

671
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,079
might do a bit of Beach Coleman or something. But

672
00:30:57,319 --> 00:30:59,920
I was very aware that the laws here are direct

673
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,039
honan when it comes to metal detecting. And I went

674
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:05,160
on something that might have been archaeology dot i E.

675
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:07,599
But it sticks in my mind, the red dots, and

676
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,640
it was like she might as well just throw the

677
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,200
thing away. I can't use it, you know, because everywhere

678
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,759
is everywhere you know it they are in England, it's

679
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:15,559
completely different.

680
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,799
Speaker 2: New and antiquity is at it.

681
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,799
Speaker 1: That's it, you know, and it's it's treasure trove no

682
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,319
matter what it is, you know. So yeah, and they

683
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,920
put a total down or on me. But anyway, you're there,

684
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,359
you research archaeology dot ie any other sources you use,

685
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:30,319
that's the.

686
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: Most valuable one because that's compiled by professional archaeologist at

687
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,200
least part of the country. So let's see you find

688
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:36,920
Let's say let's say you find it only well you

689
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,240
know not, no, I'm possible. Let me find out. Google

690
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:41,279
maps happened pretty often, to be honest. You'll go to

691
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,480
the archaeology magic kick on the doctor. They will they

692
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:45,519
absolutely will have been entry on it. So it probably

693
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,720
isn't that much information on it. A lot of the

694
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,440
archaeology dot i e information is just stuff that archaeologs

695
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,640
write down. A lot like the domes of sing sometimes

696
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,279
information and following that. Honestly, Google serf. The's actually quite

697
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:58,200
a lot of websites in Ireland to documents these things,

698
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:01,799
going back sometimes to them nineteen nineties. Some really art

699
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:04,319
tape looking website, but some really good resources that you

700
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,039
try to pull together as much as you can. Then

701
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:08,240
there's a duke of Collection you could not or yeah,

702
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,079
the Duke's Collection you could not. I E. That's a

703
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:12,319
that's the collection of the art Folklore collection.

704
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,799
Speaker 1: Let's say, is how's that spelled?

705
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: Do you c H?

706
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:21,079
Speaker 1: All right, well so I think that's heritage. Yeah, I

707
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:24,720
think that means heritage something like that. Yeah, okay, so.

708
00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So let's say let's say you find a

709
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,160
Saint John's Folly well. You know, let's say you find that,

710
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:35,960
and let's say you're in County Mona. Let's say you're

711
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:38,359
near Scott's House. You can go into the Duke Collection.

712
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,759
You can serve Saint John's Well as a keyword. You

713
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:42,880
can even search by county. Let's see, put in County

714
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,519
Monaghan and you will get up all the accounts all

715
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:48,799
that written in the nineteen thirties of folklore relating to

716
00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:52,200
this something with the key name Saint John's Well in

717
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:55,400
County Monaghan. You might find some very very good information

718
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,400
there to be on a very satifimation that a lot

719
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,519
of people use that one as the research. So the

720
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,839
use of collection and ARCHAEOLOGI dot I emails, those two

721
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,400
together are the most useful ones, you know. And then

722
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,880
I don't know if if I can think of any

723
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,799
interviews on the day, I'll just gogo it as well.

724
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: And i'd say a source as well as you know

725
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:15,039
some of these three hundred thousand followers seventy five thousand

726
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:18,519
followers of TikTok, three hundred thousand on Insta, we're talking

727
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:22,279
to Brinsley mc namari here, who's the man behind Weird Ireland.

728
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,319
So I suppose you have a rich source of people

729
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:26,279
saying have you checked this out? Have you checked that out?

730
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: And I do have a spreadsheet in fact, yeah, and

731
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,400
a really really bad and needs update the spreadsheet of

732
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,759
all the recommendations I've gotten. Yeah, I know, I've got

733
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:36,480
a huge onun stuff coming in and I have, by

734
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:39,119
all means use their recommendations stuff I've never heard of before.

735
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,119
So I mean I'm light in some part of the

736
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,119
country compared to other we No, I've got friendly sources

737
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,720
come in all the time. Yeah, one hundred percent.

738
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,759
Speaker 1: There are gems to be found, because you know, when

739
00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:54,039
you when you're hit with a plethora of good intentioned

740
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,880
advice like that, the temptation because there's so much of

741
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,640
it is to you know, you know, discard some of it,

742
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,000
but you will find gems in there as well. Here's

743
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,039
one for you, by the way, right, just shows you.

744
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:13,320
You know, recently I tried deep Seek, you know the AI. Yeah,

745
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,760
it's like a GPT for whatever, but the Chinese version

746
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,840
of it. I was always fascinated by this barracks, this

747
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,159
old military barracks I grew up in, and there was

748
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,039
a murder there. There was a poisoning, and was some

749
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:30,039
information online. But funny enough, deep Seek found a few

750
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:32,800
more murders. I wasn't reckoning on. Of course, there's the fame,

751
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,920
the infamous nineteen sixteen where there was you know, guys

752
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,800
taking off the street and just including a well known

753
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,760
pacifist and just shot out of hand by this looney

754
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,039
officer called Coulthurst at the time. So anyway, I tried

755
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,480
deep Seek and I found you know, I was beginning

756
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:52,320
to believe all things deep seek, right, which is a

757
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,360
bad mistake, because I'd say, AI is a useful tool,

758
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,639
but it is not trustworthy. Let me give you an example.

759
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,239
Oh absolutely, And I really don't mean to lower the tone,

760
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,559
but I will me being me, So I was really

761
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:11,199
getting carried away with it. And I looked at my

762
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,119
cat one day and I decided to say, deep seek.

763
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,960
I said, tell me the story of now Marvin's hole, right,

764
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:24,639
the holy rock of Marvin's hole right, in other words,

765
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,480
my cat's ass right. And I put it in expecting nothing. Well,

766
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,920
I got a chapter and verse and trope of the

767
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,719
holy Rock of Marvin's Hole, which was all used to

768
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,159
me and used to Marvin as well. But we'll move

769
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,440
on swiftly. I was nearly going to say rent boys,

770
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:47,159
even going further lower than ren boys, traditions, et cetera.

771
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,960
What have we do any folk traditions you can think of?

772
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,639
Speaker 2: Well, rein boys, because you mentioned there is, and Brian

773
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:57,159
with that doesn't know. Ren boys are a tradition in

774
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,880
Ireland in quite simply well spread, but has gone through

775
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,199
peaks and troops of popularity. Is a tradition specifically on

776
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,840
Saint Stephen's say. In Ireland, some people call a boxing day.

777
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,679
It's the fun sick of December day after Christmas Day,

778
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:14,280
where people will dress up in costumes and they'll go

779
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:17,760
from Traditionally they would go door to door in the community.

780
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:20,239
They would play music to the people inside, and they

781
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,360
would and they would receive a donation of money. Traditionally

782
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:27,679
that donation would go to either buying drink on the night,

783
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:31,400
or it would go to organize the party sometime in

784
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,440
the future, sometimes for New Years, sometimes for maybe in

785
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:39,199
February or later on. And these days that tradition is

786
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,440
still going. In some place they never left, and in

787
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,559
some places it left in and came back double interestingly,

788
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:47,119
actually some perhaps of double us quite a bit of it,

789
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,760
whereas in Mullingar where I live, it's not really a thing.

790
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,239
But these days they might perform instead of going door

791
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,239
to door. They might perform in a town square, or

792
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,920
they might go to the embarrass the towns and perform. Also,

793
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,719
the costumes will vary vary a lot, depending on where

794
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,559
in the crew are and what what you know, what

795
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,760
time is happening at like what ears it's happening at

796
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,519
it They can look like just random Halloween costumes. They

797
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:14,000
can look like straw boys with the straw masks. Also

798
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:16,519
what kind of people do it? In some places in

799
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:19,639
rock Common, I know children just children do it. They

800
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:22,199
don't wear any particular type of costumes where they're normal clothes.

801
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,159
And then another part only add't do it. And yeah,

802
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,840
what types of songs they single vary it. Sometimes there

803
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,800
should be a big focus traditionally put on the ren.

804
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,280
How the ren is the king of the birds and

805
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:36,519
supposedly supposedly gave up Saint Seven's location and he was

806
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:38,199
execute because of this, and that's why they kind of

807
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,480
punished the ren on today. But some places forget to

808
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:42,719
do that, some place to still do that. It's a

809
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,079
very varied and long tradition in Ireland and no part

810
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:50,519
too well. There's other traditions like that. One where people

811
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:53,920
dressed up and play music on the first of February

812
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:56,559
came through the state. You have Biddy boys or Biddy

813
00:37:56,559 --> 00:37:59,599
it's partly Biddy's is what people say. Now that's a

814
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,800
really similar thing to the rend Boys, but on the

815
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,719
same bridge stay instead. And the biggest place I'm aware

816
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,239
of the that is Claordland County Kerry, where they still

817
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,880
have a very organized Biddy celebration. They dressed up those

818
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,079
those guys they dressed up in all white kind of

819
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:16,440
uniforms and they wear kind of straw woven hat and

820
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,559
they play music. And these days they have they have

821
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,760
a parade of biddies down down the middle of Clorland Town.

822
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,159
But I was actually there this year and this year

823
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:27,360
gone it was too rainy to play inside the barns

824
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,199
and said, which are still good not but I think

825
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:31,639
they're quite defective of being outside. And some of them

826
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:35,000
do go to people pounds playing music. There's more than that.

827
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:38,920
You've got strawboys, You've got mummers. I think the mummers

828
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,320
play it on the on the twelve days of Christmas,

829
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,679
on the twelve says the Christmas in general, and some

830
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,519
of them show up at weddings. It's a very really

831
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,440
vary tradition, this whole dressing up and going to people.

832
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:53,679
It's playing Halloween in the way, dressing up and playing

833
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,440
music with one of the people's bounds. It's a really

834
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,119
kind of embedded tradition in Ireland then probably more widely

835
00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:02,280
across the Orphan general, but we do have quite a

836
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,760
bit of it here and it's getting maybe a bit

837
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,679
of a comeback. I mean, en boys are coming back

838
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,480
in part babies are definitely getting more popular becase it's

839
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:10,960
just a spectacle behind as you know.

840
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 1: Did you say it's say mummers mummers Yeah, m M

841
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,519
and b r s Wow. And they're singers? Yeah?

842
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,519
Speaker 2: Are they singers? I need to remember because there's so

843
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:21,400
many of them. Some of them, some of them, don't think.

844
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Some of them perform a play, right, some of them

845
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,159
perform the play. I did look at this sport. I've

846
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:30,480
not seen any mummers before. But rather than some of them,

847
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,599
I think is rather than playing music and singing, they

848
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,039
perform a like a kind of an open pantomime, and

849
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:38,719
they do it around Christmas time. It was kind of

850
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,920
it was honestly kind of like the original Christmas pantomime

851
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,679
we get in the theater these days, but it would

852
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:47,039
be people performing outside and wearing strange costumes and characters

853
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:48,599
like simple Cool will be a character in it, and

854
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:50,920
like Saint patrickuld be a character in it, like like

855
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,079
Saint George be a character, would be a bad guy.

856
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:54,239
You know that kind of thing.

857
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: Did you hear about this thing? Kind of turn of

858
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,280
the year in is it carry where someone gets.

859
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it? Port mcge.

860
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: What's that about?

861
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: That I was there this year. I was there on

862
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,559
this New Year's Alan's not especially well known for New

863
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:16,840
Year's Eve traditions, not like some parts of the world,

864
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:20,400
Like I used to live in Edinburgh for a bunch

865
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,840
of years, and their New Year's Hogby they take it

866
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:29,599
very years. But here in Ireland it's not as big

867
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:32,199
a thing. Like It's funny because think Stephen's Day is

868
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,360
the biggest night of the year and then what like

869
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,639
four days later it's New Year so and you just

870
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,440
kind of do the same thing you did again. So

871
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,199
I was determined to do something different this year, and

872
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,079
I was like, there has to be some tradition related

873
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,440
to New Year's even Ireland. And just on Reddit I

874
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:49,039
found somebody talking about the Port McGee New year z

875
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:51,719
celebrations for Port McGee, County Kerry, not a big place,

876
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:54,119
two pubs from what I can remember, any had the

877
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:57,039
two pubs in it. So what happens is if you're

878
00:40:57,079 --> 00:40:59,599
in Port McGee on New Year's Eve leading up to midnight,

879
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:03,159
let's say twenty twenty four turning twenty twenty five, like

880
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,679
this year, gone, about ten minutes beforehand, somebody dressed up

881
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:09,320
like an old man wearing like a big bake beard

882
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,159
and with two fakes like walking sticks, does that walking

883
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,920
up and down the town, and they'll have twenty twenty

884
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,559
four riched on them, right, they're the year leaving that's

885
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:20,159
now old, and they'll be kind of just walking up

886
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:23,199
and down the town like that. And then at the

887
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,960
moment it turns the ten second countdown to New Years,

888
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,239
you'll hear a loud bang. I actually don't know where

889
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,519
the bank comes from. I presume it, so I don't

890
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:32,039
know where it comes from. Mysel who does it? You

891
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:36,440
don't see it? The old year will fall over, presumably dead.

892
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,079
Speaker 1: Take that sick.

893
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Couple of guys pick them up and kind

894
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:43,280
of drag him off, and everyone counts down to New

895
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,840
Year's and then just you know, second, the minute after

896
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,599
it turns twenty twenty five, a young person will come

897
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:52,639
out of one of the doors one of the buildings

898
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:56,039
of Port McGee, dressed in all white, with a bowler

899
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:58,639
hat and a walking stick with twenty and then twenty

900
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:01,159
twenty five and a sash across them, and they'll pray

901
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:02,719
it up and down the town. And there's a new Year,

902
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,679
and the traditions that go around and people don't want

903
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:06,760
to be welcome the new years. I'll make a speech.

904
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:09,239
It's always a young person from the community, but they

905
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,840
don't know who it's going to be until they walk

906
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,440
out the door, and there's a lot of there's a

907
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,280
lot of guessing and like wondering who it's going to

908
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,639
be the old year. I'm pretty sure it's the same

909
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,400
person for loads of years in a row. But no,

910
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:23,360
that's the Port McGee one and one person asked me,

911
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,280
does not come from like an old pagan tradition. It's

912
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,599
not that old. It's actually from the eighteenth century, right,

913
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,639
and seemingly it comes from a French a French ship

914
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,239
that got stuck around Port McGhee one New Year's or

915
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,199
something like that. So it's not that old. But it's

916
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,639
very very continuous. It's going continuously for a very very

917
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,280
long time. Actually said it while I was saying, I

918
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,400
kemera for how long? Pretty much since then three I

919
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,960
think over three undred years has going continuously with only

920
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:49,119
very very few gaps of years, if any at all,

921
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,719
even and.

922
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,599
Speaker 1: Sticking in that neck of the woods, the pook Fair,

923
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,280
is that still a thing, Well, that's still.

924
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:58,199
Speaker 2: Going, Yeah, that's up in Toortland, that's that's where a

925
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,159
vidyas and that's where videos they happen this year and

926
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,239
then they last celebration there, the Team Celebration of Clortland.

927
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,440
Actually that's all. That's Arland's oldest land festivals. Yeah, they

928
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:11,119
market I believe it is. I actually was there last year,

929
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:12,920
but I was only there for a little bit. It's

930
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:15,719
some and I don't really I couldn't really you know,

931
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:18,480
father exactly what it's abound. But one of the biggest

932
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,719
spectacles of the talk there is that they traditionally they

933
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,840
they bring in like an adult and the golf would

934
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,960
be made like King of the Fair, things like King

935
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,800
of the Tuck and the goal to be put on

936
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,559
top of a pedical over the over the town for

937
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:34,480
the durations like the three days or two days of

938
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:38,320
the festival and and those just up there the whole time.

939
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,320
But as of I think twenty twenty two, that's no

940
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,079
longer the case because I think they'reated a very very

941
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,599
hot summer and the wouldn't have been fair to have

942
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,960
the golf up there for the Solong golf up there

943
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,039
periodically now. But there's music thing. It used to be

944
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:55,360
very well known for live stock running around the place. Yeah,

945
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,239
plenty of drinks and all that kind of things down

946
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,400
at it. What's fair. I guess it's still goal, but

947
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,760
I didn't still another time, to be honest, but I

948
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,400
just didn't have enough time when I was there last.

949
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were very genteel, very genteel when you said

950
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,559
like a pedestal, because if my recollection is right, the

951
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:14,519
thing used to be put up on a a raised

952
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:18,599
stand of about twenty or thirty foot high with very

953
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:21,159
little moving about space. Now this was way back in

954
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,440
the day, and I think, you know, I have a

955
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:26,679
vague recollection of animal cruelty stepping in at one point

956
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,079
and making it. Yeah, now that could be just and

957
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,360
the dark recesses of my mind, I just have had

958
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,719
a feeling it wasn't politically correct anymore. Very quickly then,

959
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,639
because I'm taking far too much of your time. Well,

960
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,320
I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it, Brinsley, I'm enjoying it.

961
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:44,639
Ring ring fort any views on ring forts.

962
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: Ring fort views on them. I was about to mention,

963
00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:48,920
you know, when you said the red dots on the

964
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,920
archaology dot Ye, honestly, without embellishment, about ninety percent of

965
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,519
those of the ring forts the ninth sense, the red

966
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:59,280
dots or ringboards. That's how common ring only about Jesus,

967
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,360
Yeah maybe ten or yeah, ten twenty percent of those

968
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,280
red tops are not ringforts? Is that many ring forts?

969
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:06,400
Opinions on them, I don't know. I've never done a

970
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:09,480
video on them there too. You know, for the most part,

971
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:12,000
they just looked like some trees in a very small

972
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:16,440
race hill, like a field actually booth, just like it's

973
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:18,960
kind of a leaseless Last year called The Men Who

974
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,559
Eat Rainforts or something like that, which I was a

975
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:24,199
great as horrific title, and they had to do with

976
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,239
how they're not all completely adequately documented in the country. Yeah,

977
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,119
but there is I think tens of thousands of them,

978
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,840
certainly in thousands, and how a lot of them can

979
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,400
end up being Tomorrow's for different you know, accroulturad stuff

980
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,840
going on, or like or like building film and especially

981
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,360
road development going on. But opinions on them not really

982
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,960
so much as just look a little bit of the

983
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:45,159
hills and trees on them. Yeah.

984
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,559
Speaker 1: It was imbued into me that you didn't interfere with

985
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:50,800
them or else you very more. Yeah.

986
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,519
Speaker 2: Fairy fort yeah, yeah, favery forts Yeah. So ring fort

987
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:57,199
is very much scientific word for well, just the word

988
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,000
for I guess the ring fort is then what had

989
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:02,159
been a evil dwelling. Some of them are older than medieval.

990
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:03,719
There's kind of an idea that they're iron age that

991
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,079
Celtic made, but generally speaking of early the Medievals, and

992
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,039
it would have been a dwelling, yeah, a little bit.

993
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: Of a dwelling, yeah, like a roth or something like that, yeah, rat.

994
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah. But since then, since then they started

995
00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:19,880
they started getting the idea fairy force attached to them.

996
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:22,360
And I think the reason being is that they were

997
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,719
they would have been so so so common. They still

998
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,400
they are so so so common in Ireland, but they

999
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,880
would have been looked, they would have looked like somewhat

1000
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,320
man made structures because they are, but that have now

1001
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:36,639
gotten embedded into into the landscape and I think people

1002
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:38,840
even probably know what they were, remember what they were,

1003
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,320
would explain it. The fairy points. There is a very

1004
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,960
old fairy low in Ireland that's a kind of what

1005
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,239
do you call it, like nature spirits buried from pace

1006
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,280
and over time as well. But yeah, that's definitely the

1007
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,719
most commonly known thing about rain force is that growing

1008
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,480
up might self included growing up, you hear they call

1009
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:58,440
the fairy forts and berries there in the autovoid, or

1010
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,559
at least not break anything while they're there, get great

1011
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:03,440
somehow or another. That's definitely got the most common Irish

1012
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:03,920
fairy law.

1013
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: The Gael talk to areas we were talking about language

1014
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:12,360
earlier on any research as regards those are the loenclaves

1015
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,079
that are still there.

1016
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: Well, I was actually down in the Gael talk just

1017
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,360
last summer. I was in the Jingle Gale talk. My

1018
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,199
dad's from Kerry and I wanted to go for years

1019
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,679
to relearn myriers. I went to the Gaelsville for primary,

1020
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:24,760
but he made the stipulation that it had to be

1021
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,360
the month a Monster Gale talk, which was a pain

1022
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,199
in because, like you know, the courses were more. There

1023
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,119
was fewer courses compared to you go to doney Gall

1024
00:47:33,159 --> 00:47:36,440
when it was low course. So yeah, I mean you

1025
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:38,840
got the ones in Connach's Conamara that you got the

1026
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,119
doney Gall was very expensive. You got got the water

1027
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:42,920
for one, which my god, I do not know a

1028
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,599
whole lot about the water for the water.

1029
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:48,559
Speaker 1: For it is there because it is there, because and

1030
00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:50,880
now did you mention it? I recall my daughter being

1031
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,360
down there a few years.

1032
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there, I don't have a bunch of bandies, to

1033
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,880
be honest, I really don't. And the most kind of

1034
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,079
mysterious ones is the mead Gale, which, to be honest,

1035
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:02,639
actually not that far from where I am. A munting

1036
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:05,440
are people sometimes refer to as the mead Gale talk

1037
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,639
as if it's one, and technically it is one area,

1038
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,400
you know, it's one overall dale talk to County b However,

1039
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:13,280
it's there is two areas. It's two areas that are

1040
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,559
not connected to each other. Ball Young Gibbs, Gibbstown is

1041
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:17,360
one of them, and the other one that came from

1042
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,599
the name of it. Now these are really small, they're

1043
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,199
you know, and they're very very raw. One of them

1044
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,840
outside trim Town and one of them outside Navintown. And

1045
00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:26,760
I'm not even sure if there's a shop in these like,

1046
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,199
but they come from all the other Gale talks in

1047
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,880
Ireland come from where they had been continued an unbroken

1048
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,159
tradition speaking Irish than the nineteen thirties to deserve that

1049
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,639
tradition a special designation through the areas in the West. However,

1050
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,360
in Leinster there was in danny Gaale talk because it

1051
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,360
had been Irish speaking Native Marie speaking of the kind

1052
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,119
of died out in Lens by the nineteenth century. So

1053
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,280
to for a bunch of different interesting reasons, they tried

1054
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,960
the experiment of establishing one in Leinster in County b.

1055
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:57,519
So they moved over, the government moved over a bunch

1056
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,960
of people from primarily Contamara, primarily Connoma gail Tops into

1057
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,559
into county meet and At to see if the you know,

1058
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:05,719
foster the language there. It didn't fully work out in

1059
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,559
the end of Meet people a lot of you back,

1060
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:10,079
I mean the people of Connamara, a lot of them

1061
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:11,920
just couldn't see English at all. They had to learn

1062
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,559
English to be able to talk that. When I was

1063
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:15,880
around it, there was actually a lot of prentjudice against

1064
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,920
them by the people of the local county me who

1065
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:22,199
background the nineteen thirties in in the past of the

1066
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,280
Midlands like that Iris speaker would have been really gone

1067
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,480
out of practice and in some ways the Midlands actually

1068
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,440
would have been very unpopular. So there were you know,

1069
00:49:28,519 --> 00:49:32,079
they wuld have you know, jeered the Irish speakers coming in,

1070
00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:33,639
you know, stop speaking that generation.

1071
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, because they were so much more sophisticate.

1072
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,000
Did you say they were trending.

1073
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: There's your theory at the time, which was genuine if

1074
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,000
people said at the time, was the reason that the

1075
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,559
reason that the seeing the fall government at the time

1076
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:52,880
under Aimond devil A moved a bunch of people from

1077
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,280
Connamara to this part of the county me was that

1078
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,840
he wanted to he was What he was really trying

1079
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,159
to do was he was trying to change the voting

1080
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,840
democratic graphic of the area to favor pen A fall

1081
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,840
in another election. And that's not a conspiracy here that

1082
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,280
people came up with things. That's the conspiracy here that

1083
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,400
people were saying back in the nineteen.

1084
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:15,599
Speaker 1: Thirty Surely not Prince, surely I have.

1085
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,599
Speaker 2: That's just that's just what people said in the news,

1086
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,360
some people the newspaper said back then. But it's on

1087
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,880
going so now. That is.

1088
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: For those listening outside the country. Gaele talks are areas

1089
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,760
of Ireland that still speak the original tongue, which is

1090
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,559
the Gaelic tongue. Princely, just some kind of paranormally things.

1091
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,000
I saw you once and was it a hill that

1092
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:43,000
goes a funny way or a road or something a

1093
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:46,679
magic magic hill or something? Is that something? What's that about?

1094
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: Those were magic hills? Some people call them gravity hill

1095
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,079
loot them all over the world to buy them all

1096
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,320
over the world. But in Ireland, the whole idea with

1097
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,719
a with a magic hill or a gravity hill is

1098
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,679
it the hill where you're when your car is on

1099
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,679
the slow is on the decline or incline or whatever way,

1100
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:05,599
so that when you take your handbrake off, your part

1101
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:08,480
can take your handbreak off from that gear. Intuitively, the

1102
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:12,400
car should start going downhill as gravity would normally have it,

1103
00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:15,400
but instead it starts rolling off hill. That's always how

1104
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:19,239
magic will work. I made a video of one in Jenkinstown,

1105
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,360
County Louds. It's a pretty well known but there's two

1106
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:24,559
very well normans in County slide Go. There's a very

1107
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:28,079
well known one in the county Waterford. There's a well

1108
00:51:28,159 --> 00:51:30,800
known one outside Balley. Matt and Paulls love for can

1109
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:34,000
the devil pull theer all over the place? Basically there's

1110
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,119
one in Jenkinstown. It's kind of hard to find because

1111
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:38,960
it's not like a just think spot. You're just you're

1112
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,199
just on a country road, you know, and sometimes he's

1113
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:43,239
really hard to do because you're you're on a road,

1114
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,559
sometimes a busy one. Sometimes their cars couldn't behind you.

1115
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:47,679
You can't be just stop your car and trying to

1116
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,920
let it roll backwards or up in or whatever. But

1117
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:52,760
we did find it. We found it in Jenkinstown, and

1118
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,480
it works. It actually does work. It does go uphill,

1119
00:51:55,559 --> 00:51:57,679
or at least looks like it. But the idea behind

1120
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,440
the magic kills a really compelling look and thing when

1121
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,840
you see it. But seemingly it's always actually going downhill.

1122
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,440
It's just a very slight decline. However, the landscape surrounding

1123
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,360
it will make it sort of look like it's going

1124
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,719
off hill or berries and magic. That's what other people say.

1125
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:15,679
I mean, it is going downhill, is going downhill. It's

1126
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,440
very It just looks like it's going uphill. Maybe there's

1127
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,000
other places and other places, but that's the general what

1128
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:22,480
I hear.

1129
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Finally, I don't normally mention monsters on scary era.

1130
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:32,920
We got lots of apparitions and people with no legs

1131
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,960
walking along and heads under the arms and EVPs and

1132
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:40,280
what have you. Any monsters. We've had one monster story

1133
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,679
so far. Like a fellow author like yourself, Kiran Fanning.

1134
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,320
I think its name is he's a lovely guy. He's

1135
00:52:48,519 --> 00:52:50,840
haunted Ireland. I think it's his book and your book

1136
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,920
is Weird Ireland. And he mentioned a monster of a

1137
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,159
lake or something. Have you anything similar monsters?

1138
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 2: Just just nearby in Westmeads there's a lockery, very very

1139
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:09,400
big lake Smithteen's County's westbas Longford Drop Common. There was

1140
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,599
a reported lockery monster there sighting in nineteen sixty. It

1141
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,679
was never found after, but it kind of leads into

1142
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,519
this really big tradition in Ireland called have ever the

1143
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:20,920
term a horse seal or a horse fish or a

1144
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,880
horn deals? Have you heard these terms? Well? I haven't, Okay,

1145
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,800
they're some. It's basically the overall idea of normally lake monster,

1146
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000
sometimes sea monster. Normally it's in it's inland lakes though

1147
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,719
of people sighting a very big up to thirteen feet long.

1148
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,119
Eight to thirteen feet long is normally a county here

1149
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:41,679
so of an eel shaped creature going through the water.

1150
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:45,000
Its head is sometimes supported different ways. Sometimes it's head

1151
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,599
has no eyes, and it has a big mouth of

1152
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,480
round a big round mount of sharp teeth. Sometimes its

1153
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,440
head is the shape of a horse a horse's head,

1154
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:55,679
and some people call them horse, fish, horse, deel horn deals,

1155
00:53:55,679 --> 00:53:58,440
all these names. The funny thing is if you go

1156
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,920
if you google a Google right now and Google search

1157
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,559
any of these terms, you are not going to find

1158
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:05,079
a Wikipedia art. So left the sports facial horse fields

1159
00:54:05,079 --> 00:54:07,159
and explain what I'm talking about, which when I look

1160
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,440
into that first made me think, Okay, they're not you know,

1161
00:54:09,519 --> 00:54:11,519
it's not reading that fake psiion. But if you don't

1162
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:13,480
beyond that, if you even go to the RT archives

1163
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:16,480
and available online or other actually export good resource that one,

1164
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,199
you will find so many in takeular in the nineteen

1165
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,800
fifties and nineteen sixty accounts of people reporting seeing creatures

1166
00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:27,480
like the ones I described, and sometimes you you can

1167
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:30,639
get video interviews with the people that areport seeing these

1168
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:32,920
and it's just so odd when you when you see

1169
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,039
someone like you're just reading here, you seeing the person

1170
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:37,679
describing what they saw. You can get a lot, in

1171
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,079
particular in Condomara, in particular in the lakes in Connamara County,

1172
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:43,480
Galwich to get a huge amount of these accounts. The

1173
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:46,480
Locker Remanster one was not the same time, I guess,

1174
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:48,320
and it was in nineteen sixty. It has to do

1175
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,960
with a no word of a light. Three priests that

1176
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,719
were fishing off the boat in Lockers in May in

1177
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:56,519
the eighteenth May that year, and it was about half

1178
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,400
half nine at nine, so restive bridehouse still and they

1179
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,159
saw they reported to look seeing for a minute on

1180
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:03,840
the fire side of the show or a creature like that.

1181
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,800
They're reported to the land to the Inland Fisheries Board.

1182
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:08,920
Next thing. Loads of fishermen show trying to find this

1183
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:12,719
monster a local pub with one hunter pounds reward to

1184
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,239
find it. Some people are talk we're using dynamite, you know,

1185
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,519
smoke it out or a lake. It's a bit of

1186
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:20,599
a sensation at the time. They actually got well reported

1187
00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:23,039
in the newspapers at the time. So the Lockery monster

1188
00:55:23,159 --> 00:55:25,679
was a very well imported thing. Never found, but there

1189
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,280
was so many There is so many theories as to

1190
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,679
what it could be or what the water phenomenon could be.

1191
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:33,400
So no damn, there's a lot of lake monsters in Ireland.

1192
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:35,480
Some people say they are lamp praise, you know, the

1193
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:39,159
lamprey is the lamp prey is a problem a vampire fish.

1194
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:42,440
They real thing. They look like a leach, but they're

1195
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,199
but they're very long. Actually, know what, they don't look

1196
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:45,719
like a leach. A leach looks like a slug. They

1197
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,239
look like an eel. They look like an eel. No eyes,

1198
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:50,119
they've got a round mouse and they've kind of got

1199
00:55:50,159 --> 00:55:53,280
these sucker flucking mouth and they drain blow. They're not

1200
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,880
that big. But what some people reckon was the lockery

1201
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,280
Master could have been an abnormally larger these. Some people

1202
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,400
wreckon that it could be a type of prehistoric fish

1203
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:06,519
that's not. That's nothing commonly reported to be like discovered yet,

1204
00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:08,880
which does start up an on occasion that people assume

1205
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,039
from bottles that that type of fish is extinct, going

1206
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:12,719
to find actually those lives somewhere in the world, and

1207
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:16,320
that han't happened. Specifically, the lot of remonstered members of

1208
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,960
the Inland Fishery Board, when they were asked what did

1209
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:21,800
you think it was? One guy said, I'd say it

1210
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,480
was a pike that was stuck in a pike stuck

1211
00:56:23,519 --> 00:56:25,719
in a pipeline. Because the pike, you know, they pat

1212
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,039
of a huge fish in Ireland, and we get stuck

1213
00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:31,239
in a pipeline, it'll start, it'll start flopping around the

1214
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,800
water trying to get out of it and it'll look

1215
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,159
like that. Some people said it was probably just drift

1216
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,039
wood and in the lake. One guy a really interesting

1217
00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:41,039
explanation on the Inland Fisheries Board, and Westby said it

1218
00:56:41,199 --> 00:56:44,440
was probably a family of otters swimming through the lake

1219
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,119
because apparently I didn't know this. When aths swim through

1220
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,519
when afters swim, they swim in a straight line, following

1221
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,519
each other. If the water is cresting, it looked like

1222
00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:55,719
one thing going through the water were really a fanny

1223
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,719
big So there's been a lot of very or could

1224
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,360
be just a big giant fish. I don't know, but

1225
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,760
they're there's a lot of really good explanations to what

1226
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,760
these things could be. But the funny thing is there

1227
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,960
is so there's been whole books written on on the

1228
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:13,440
on on lake monsters and Ireland. These are actually one

1229
00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:16,480
very famous book written by Peter Costello, I think in

1230
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,320
the nineteen seventies about lake monsters and Ireland. It's an

1231
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,480
absolutely huge phenomenon that can go way more into and

1232
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:25,559
there's even let me named Peter Constable. You've ever heard

1233
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:27,119
of big foot in Ireland by any chance?

1234
00:57:28,039 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: Like that sasquatch type thing?

1235
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:32,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a Sasquatch. I ever, do you

1236
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:33,840
ever hear of do you ever hear of them? So?

1237
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:37,039
Speaker 1: So an Irish bigfoot? Please elaborate.

1238
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,519
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you actually the book in Search

1239
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,480
of Lake Monsters by Peter Costello, with this Irish book

1240
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:45,039
from the nineteen seventies, I think originally about trying to

1241
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,039
find these lake montuf There is resources on this. But anyways,

1242
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,760
bigfoot in Ireland, there absolutely is in Irish Bigfoot Research

1243
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,039
Organization ib r O or sometimes rv R g Irish

1244
00:57:56,079 --> 00:58:00,639
Research Irish Bigfoot Research Group, and it's at least three guys,

1245
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:03,679
and up until twenty twenty three they were still pretty

1246
00:58:03,719 --> 00:58:05,719
active doing the interviews. You can find interviews in a

1247
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,960
podcast going to a bunch of documented big foot sightings

1248
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,960
in Ireland and going looking. And I've been really wanting

1249
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:14,679
to ask them more about that and contact them, but

1250
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:16,440
I've happened in the look so fa. Let's try again.

1251
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:19,000
But the Irish big foot is, I mean, the big

1252
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:21,760
phenomenon is normally like what like a I don't know,

1253
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,840
like a seven foot all like like the size of

1254
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,000
a big person and a person I get the Irish

1255
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,639
big foot seemingly sometimes they called it grew of gock,

1256
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:32,800
so like a hairy thing in Irish and it can

1257
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,599
be sometimes it's like a really narrow version that can

1258
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:38,400
be mistaken from mossy tree and sometimes it's like a

1259
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,400
Neanderthal Neanderthall type thing. It's lived out in the woods.

1260
00:58:41,559 --> 00:58:44,239
But apparently the noise it makes sounds like a donkey,

1261
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,440
like the noise of donkey big And there's reports aleast

1262
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,440
some furss from the ib r O talking about it.

1263
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:52,880
Of if you see random wooden structures made of branches

1264
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,639
out in the woods, that's the type of behavior of

1265
00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:56,639
big boots in Ireland. To be honest, I have seen

1266
00:58:56,719 --> 00:58:58,639
that kind of thing, presumed it with people that made it,

1267
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:01,000
but I have seen random types rugs they're talking about.

1268
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:03,800
And there's even apparently, and this isn't unique to the

1269
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,960
art Big but apparently around the world there's a belief

1270
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:08,400
that the big food isn't just like a wild animal,

1271
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,320
it's more a kind of supernatural being to the extent

1272
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,320
where if you're using electronic device like a flashlight or

1273
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,800
a radio, then a big buzz is coming forwards you,

1274
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,920
although you can't see it yet from the light will

1275
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,760
start flickering. The radio stop working, so there can be

1276
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,239
kind of electromagnetic current attention to Apparently that's they say

1277
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,079
that the art Big that can happen, but that's not

1278
00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:29,559
unique art big, but either it can happen with any

1279
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:32,239
of them. There's a belief of that. So that's something

1280
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,519
I really really wanted to see more is learning more

1281
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:36,840
about that. There's actually a very funny YouTube video of

1282
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,559
the big Boot sighting in Blessington like the earlier days

1283
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:43,719
of YouTube, and it's it's pretty funny. Video's only like

1284
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:44,280
ten seconds.

1285
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: Well, i'd well believe you, Brinsley, and I would. A

1286
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:51,679
couple of things just strike me when it comes to

1287
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,800
the whole Connamara region with the lakes there, It's proximity

1288
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,559
is so much to the Atlantic Ocean. Who knows what

1289
00:59:57,679 --> 01:00:00,440
could have ended up over the soups of time and

1290
01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:03,719
the seas of time, and as well as that mentioned

1291
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,039
Kiran Fanning there, who's a fellow author, and he had

1292
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:09,760
told me I think was a teenage girl at some

1293
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,519
point it was reckoned. She was killed by one of

1294
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:14,519
these monsters that had come out of a lake, and

1295
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:17,639
he said, to this day they're still on her tombstone.

1296
01:00:17,639 --> 01:00:21,719
There's a little squiggly monster type thing etched into the tombstone,

1297
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:26,239
and in more recent times apparently the I think it

1298
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,679
was a kraken, you know, a mythical squid or octopus,

1299
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,320
but of gigantic proportions had been reported for years throughout

1300
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,639
sea shanty's and sailor's tales and what have you, and

1301
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,719
recently they've discovered that these things actually exist, you know,

1302
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,760
that can literally destroy a yacht or a boat. These

1303
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,519
things are huge and they do exist out in certain regions,

1304
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:51,480
so nothing would.

1305
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: Surprise me the least, to be honest, Yeah, for sure.

1306
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think everybody knows you at this stage.

1307
01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:01,719
But where can you be found online or that's Weird

1308
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:02,519
Ireland go on?

1309
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, sure, all the social media channels Weird Ireland

1310
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,599
on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, there's an email address on the Instagram.

1311
01:01:09,639 --> 01:01:11,920
It's put up there Weird Ireland dot jpeg at gmail

1312
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,000
dot com. Other than that, there's a there's a podcast

1313
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:17,719
out right now, Weird on a podcast if you got Spotify,

1314
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:21,039
Apple podcasts, even on YouTube or my YouTube channel gets

1315
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:23,480
uploaded there wherever you get podcasts. And there's a book

1316
01:01:23,519 --> 01:01:25,679
out now, how the book is out Weird Ireland and

1317
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,320
Unofficial Guide of the Island by Brinsley McNamara. It can

1318
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,400
be gotten through any recual bookseller in the UK or

1319
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,039
Ireland you although it came out in North America there

1320
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:36,039
about two weeks ago, so if you go onto Amazon

1321
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:37,760
dot Com you can even order it through there or

1322
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,199
have other US booksellers and it should still be on

1323
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,559
shelved in Ireland anyways, if you go into a eatings

1324
01:01:43,559 --> 01:01:45,440
of that kind of thing, yes, which it should still

1325
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,039
be on sheld.

1326
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,679
Speaker 1: Thanks for your time, Brinsley McNamara. It's been a pleasure

1327
01:01:49,719 --> 01:01:50,639
to have you on Scarerera.

1328
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: No, thank you very much. Mark, there's a pleasure to

1329
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:53,719
be on. Thanks for asking me.

1330
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,239
Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Take care.

1331
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:07,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a couple of things over the years. But

1332
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:10,480
I've learned, well I don't. I suppose it's not learned.

1333
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:12,519
I've just become accustomed to it. And I think it's

1334
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:15,920
kind of it's maybe it's another sense or something, but

1335
01:02:16,039 --> 01:02:17,559
often when you go into places, you will get a

1336
01:02:17,599 --> 01:02:19,440
feeling for the place and you'll get a feeling of

1337
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,400
whether or not it's comfortable and whatever cause is that.

1338
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,079
Speaker 1: Who knows what causes that.

1339
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: But we have an intuition. We have an inbuilt intuition.

1340
01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:29,440
I can't describe what it is or where it comes from,

1341
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:31,840
or the physics of it or the chemistry of it,

1342
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:35,199
but it's there, and anybody will will tell you to

1343
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,800
stick with your intuition. If you think something doesn't feel right,

1344
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,440
then don't hang around.

1345
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 4: Superb advice from regular contributor to Scary Era, David McGlynn

1346
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:50,360
aka the Squire, and don't hang around either. If you've

1347
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,599
got an Irish paranormal tale to tell, simply email Paranormal

1348
01:02:55,719 --> 01:02:59,800
Ireland at proton male dot com and it'll be read

1349
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,400
out for you before you get to tell it on

1350
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:07,519
air yourself. That's Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com.

1351
01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:10,679
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, and thanks as well

1352
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,599
to everybody at Paranormal UK Radio Network for hosting the show.

1353
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:20,239
Mark Manning Take care because I care.