WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:47.119 Oh bread of that are, hello, and welcome to the show. 2 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:51.240 This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan, 3 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.600 I'm Jacob. My mouth looks blue? See that, yo? 4 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:56.399 You're telling is that because that methylene? 5 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:00.240 Yeah, buddy, I actually just ordered another bottles, so we'll 6 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:02.520 see where that goes. But anyway, we're not talking about 7 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:05.359 that today. I just noticed that just now. But today 8 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:07.640 what we're gonna be talking about is a little bit 9 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:11.840 of the not so humble beginnings of Scientology. 10 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:16.400 Bro, I'm gonna be honest with you, this episode might 11 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:20.760 get us with some ceasing assist letters because this Church 12 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:24.319 of Scientology are some litigious motherfuckers. Okay, they're the type 13 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:26.959 that will absolutely subpoena you and make you go to 14 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:29.439 court and try to sue you for defaming them and 15 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:32.280 all this stuff. Here's the thing, though, here's the thing. 16 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:36.920 Defamation only can be used if what you're saying is untrue. 17 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:40.239 Right now, if I was to come out and say 18 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:46.879 person Z over here has murdered fifty five thousand people, 19 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:48.799 he needs to be thrown in jail, and he was 20 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.560 to assume me for defaming his character and all these things, 21 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:54.359 and I cannot prove what I just said out loud, 22 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:58.040 then yeah, he's got a case. However, you know, if 23 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:00.680 I have all the bodies and I could show no, 24 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:03.319 here's the fifty five thousand people, he can't sue me 25 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:05.519 for defamation. It's not that that works. 26 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:09.240 Now the truth works, right, So, and I gotta throw 27 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:11.840 a shout out to our boy Sam old spirit Animal 28 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:17.319 himself for pointing us into the direction of Operation snow White. 29 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:19.000 The conspiracy platypus himself. 30 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.759 Indeed, I had never heard of Operation snow White before this. 31 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.080 I mean, if you tell me something shitting on the 32 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:28.639 Church of Scientology, look, I'm all ears just on mass right. 33 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:32.280 Then I looked into it and there I looked even deeper. 34 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:35.599 And then I looked even deeper, and Bro, there's no 35 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:38.840 upside to this. There's no redeeming qualities. There's no Oh, 36 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.199 it's just the government trying to shut down a noble religion. No, 37 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:49.159 this is espionage being done from a philosophy cult. And 38 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:53.520 it went over like over one hundred countries. They stole 39 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.879 information from four or five different agencies of the United 40 00:02:56.919 --> 00:03:00.000 States government, all trying to get l Ron Hubbard's punk 41 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:03.919 Gas out of trouble. It's it's wild. It is so wild. 42 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:08.000 So before we get into Operation snow White, before we 43 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:13.840 get into Miss Paulette aka Miss Loving Okay, trust me, 44 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:17.199 that's all gonna make sense here in a minute. Right now, 45 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:21.560 What do you specifically know about scientology? Because I only 46 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.919 knew a very small amount I knew they had. They 47 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:27.439 believe in aliens, right, They believe that spaceships are gonna 48 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.199 come and take the believers away one day, and Tom 49 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:32.439 Cruise was the pope at one point. Like that's about 50 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:34.120 the extent of what I knew. And l Ron was 51 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:36.360 a pulp fiction sci fi writer once upon a time. 52 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:40.080 What does Jonathan know about scientology as of right now? 53 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:42.960 Well, it was I don't know, probably ten years ago 54 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.039 that uh Leah Ramini came out and she was talking 55 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:49.000 like basically putting it on blast about some of their 56 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:50.199 crazy beliefs. 57 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:50.639 Dude. 58 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.280 She was saying that literally what they believe, Like one 59 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:56.759 of the things that they believe is that each individual, 60 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:01.439 like one of your appendages, your fingers, your're like literally 61 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:06.080 every single one is a sentient, separate being from yourself 62 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:09.719 that you need to communicate with, Okay, Like each one 63 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:11.120 of them is like a little god. 64 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:14.439 Uh Okay, see there. I was about to ask. Now 65 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.879 I've heard and you're more of the meditational type than 66 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:19.519 I am. I've heard the like, for instances, if you 67 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:22.759 are having like stomach pains, you could meditate and kind 68 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:25.240 of focus your energy on your stomach and kind of 69 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:27.959 make yourself feel better. I've heard some people being able 70 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.680 to heal themselves from doing certain things like this, very 71 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:34.759 deep meditation, very concentrated, uh you know all these things. 72 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:37.439 But we're not talking about that. We're talking about like 73 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:40.920 your stomach being its own uh sentient being. 74 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:46.800 I mean, they're like framing it in a scientific frame, 75 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:49.160 you know what I'm saying. Like they're looking at it 76 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:54.199 scientifically and their God, I don't even know what the 77 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:57.319 fuck how they would look at it, but like, all right, 78 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:59.360 so there's a case to be made that, Yeah, whenever 79 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:02.639 you meditate on certain body parts, you know, like there's 80 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:05.680 people that meditate on their lungs or you know, certain 81 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:08.759 type of organs if they're trying to heal them, and 82 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:12.079 you can do that, like I have seen that done 83 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:15.040 so many times, especially if you look into like doctor 84 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:19.399 Joe Despenza Homie straight up healed his chronic pains, like 85 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:21.199 he wasn't even supposed to walk, and he had like 86 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:24.000 something really crazy about him, and he healed all of 87 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:27.279 that through yoga and meditation. And so it's all about 88 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:32.439 just like conscious awareness and guiding your energy or your power, 89 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:37.319 your your spiritual light or whatever toward those whatever it is, 90 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:40.439 right like so your shoulder, your arm, whatever, And so 91 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:41.879 that night I do that. 92 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.279 That's impossible. I believe that the mind is way more 93 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:45.560 powerful than we give it credit for. 94 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:50.560 Bro Placebo effect proves that. Sure, absolutely know what I'm saying. So, 95 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:54.959 but yeah, what they're into is like it's like it's 96 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.680 almost like like a Greek religion, like a new age 97 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:02.040 Greek religion from what I understand, Like in a way, 98 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.079 like because you're looking up and you're waiting for these 99 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:07.439 gods to come and take you, we just call them 100 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:09.120 aliens nowadays. 101 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:10.759 Right, they call them aliens. 102 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:13.519 I mean that's what everybody calls them now. You know 103 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:17.519 that like alien. Nobody was calling them aliens two hundred 104 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.680 years ago. A hundred years ago, people would call them 105 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:24.600 gods or spirits or or something like that. It's only 106 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:28.879 really like or you would hear, you know, certain alien 107 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:33.439 stories about certain creatures coming out of the Earth or whatever. 108 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:35.839 But most of the time they were not called aliens. 109 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.120 They would be called gods, and so I wonder if 110 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:40.319 that's what they're referring to. 111 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:43.800 All right, all right, And for the record, it's not 112 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.199 like I am a all knower of scientology after doing a 113 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:49.120 little bit of research on this at all. But I 114 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:51.319 like how we're looking at this from different angles as 115 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.759 we do, and we both, I believe, have an incorrect 116 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.560 beliefs of what scientology believes. 117 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:57.800 Right. 118 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:00.000 We're speaking completely out of ignorance here. It's more like 119 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:02.879 things that we've heard about, maybe a snippet of something 120 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:06.120 that we've read a time or two. We've never attended 121 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:09.279 a church meeting of scientology. We don't know for sure. 122 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:12.800 I would love it, that's fine. I'm pretty sure. I 123 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.959 don't know if it's a scientology. But it's like they 124 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.399 have this one church out in Lake Havasu that's where 125 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:20.040 like my parents live and where I was born and 126 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:22.839 all that, Right in Lake Havasu City, Arizona, they have 127 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:26.639 some kind of like scientology church where there it's not 128 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:32.040 necessarily Scientology, but it's like a blend of Scientology and Christianity, 129 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:33.759 which is really strange. 130 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:37.399 To me, bro, I'm telling you this as a friend 131 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:42.639 and as a brother, do not ever step foot into 132 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:46.600 a scientology church, even if it's for the educational look 133 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.160 around of it, because as they do, they get all 134 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:54.360 of your information and it's oh, let's learn about it 135 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:56.560 all right, let's learn about it all good cult members. 136 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:59.160 Because it didn't start off to be some philosophy cult. 137 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:01.319 It started off from l Ron Hubbard, who was a 138 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:04.199 pulp fiction sci fi writer, a very successful one, I 139 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:08.399 might add, And everybody loved his sci fi novelettes, if 140 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:10.480 you will, like comic books from back in the day. 141 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:15.000 And it was called pulp fiction because it was written 142 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:17.800 on pulp paper, right, and it was very very cheap 143 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:20.959 to manufacture. It was like a penny of page right 144 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:23.519 to manufacture these types of comic books. And it was 145 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:28.160 understood to be sci fi. So how did a sci 146 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:33.039 fi writer go from writing about aliens, writing about cryptids, 147 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:35.679 writing about things that was for strictly entertainment by his 148 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.840 own emission? I might add this in Jaco's words, these 149 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:42.039 are his how did he go from that to creating 150 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:46.639 something called dianetics, which is ridiculous in and of itself. 151 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:49.799 The science behind that is. Have you ever actually, before 152 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:51.639 we even get into that, have you ever looked into dianetics? 153 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.159 No, I don't know what that is now, all right? 154 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:57.000 So there I was. I was about twelve years old, 155 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:00.679 child of God, child, oh for for sure, twelve years old, 156 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.559 Jacob like full on, And I'm at the flea market 157 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:06.840 in Louisiana and I saw this one booth set up. 158 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:09.879 These dudes have books, and they got this weird machine right, 159 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:12.679 and they've got these two little metal cans that you 160 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:14.600 can hold. They're about the size of this hookah vape 161 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:16.360 right here. It was a little metal things. They had 162 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:19.600 wires connected to this machine and a little meter right, 163 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:21.639 a little little peg on it, and it would go 164 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:24.399 from zero to ten or whatever. And I was curious 165 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.080 what the hell this was. And my dad saw the 166 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.879 name dianetics and knew exactly what it was, but me 167 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:30.639 being a curious twelve year old, And you know, my 168 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.600 dad's not one of them. Don't talk to them people, No, 169 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:34.879 that's that's not my father's way, you know, He's never 170 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.799 been that type. So I sat down and I'm like, 171 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.919 so what is this? And he's like, so tell you what. 172 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:43.200 Why don't you hold these cans and we're going to 173 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:44.559 do a test and I'm like, is this going to 174 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:46.279 shock me or something? They say, no, no, no, no, not 175 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:49.960 at all. I'm going to ask you to start thinking 176 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:53.639 about random things from your regular day to day life, 177 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:55.960 and I'm going to ask you to stop whenever I 178 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:58.480 see something that I think is like causing you stress 179 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:02.320 or anxiety or something like that, like, okay, sure. So 180 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:08.039 I started thinking about school, friends, relationships, tests, my parents 181 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:10.240 and he's like, wait right there, what were you just 182 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:12.799 thinking about? I said my parents. He's like, just something 183 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:15.600 about them stress you out? And I'm like, at the time, like, 184 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.240 my parents didn't really we had a great relationship. I wasn't, 185 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:23.360 not really. And so whenever he kind of started talking 186 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:25.120 to me about this more and I was like, I 187 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:26.159 look at my day, he's like, do I need a 188 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:27.960 walk away so you can answer honestly, I'm like, no, 189 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.519 not really. I mean, yeah, my parents punished me from 190 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:33.320 time to time. Ooh ah, but like no, it's not 191 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.360 like I have like a really bad relationship with them. 192 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:38.440 They're not abusive, nothing like that. And he's like, okay, well, 193 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:39.840 I really think you need to buy this book called 194 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.480 Dianetics and I'm like, okay, I'm good because he told 195 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:45.480 me it was like thirty five dollars and I had 196 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.480 like ten in my pocket or something like that. But 197 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:49.600 before I put the cans down, I started squeezing them 198 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:51.639 like crazy, and I watched the thing ping. He's like, well, 199 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:53.679 whoa hein he took them from me. I'm like, oh, 200 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:57.360 so there's what in some crazy electrical scientific you literally 201 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.120 were waiting to see when I would squeeze on these 202 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:00.480 cans out of aware. 203 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:04.519 Yeah, like a like a like an impulse, like a 204 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.559 subconscious type of impulse that they're reading from the from 205 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:08.919 the things that you're holding. 206 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:11.720 Now, it's not like to say that that type of 207 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:17.000 therapy can't be useful. The goal of scientology philosophy is 208 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:20.000 basically to where you can think about and talk about 209 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.200 and be around whatever and whoever and what all of it, 210 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:27.320 and that little needle stays on zero. You basically, through 211 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.639 a form of not I wouldn't call it immersion therapy, 212 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.919 but something close to that, you would essentially get to 213 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:36.559 where you are calm, cool and collected in any environment. 214 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:38.759 And that is a test, not even like the best test, 215 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.039 but it's a style of therapy that can be used 216 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:41.919 for something like that. 217 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:44.600 That reminds that kind of resembles like a lot of 218 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:49.679 detector test though doesn't it. 219 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:50.840 Kind of but goes more off of your heart rate. 220 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:56.399 Yeah, but it's also measuring like the the the subconscious impulses, 221 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:59.720 like what happens whenever you get like a like a jolt, 222 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:02.080 Like if you think about something, what is your emotional 223 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:05.200 reaction that then causes the physical reaction even if it's 224 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.600 subconsciously kind of happening. And so that's really like lie 225 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:12.480 detector test in a nutshell. Like that's very broad, but 226 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:15.519 I feel like this dinetics is kind of talking about 227 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.320 the same thing. Like it's it's feeding not necessarily off 228 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:20.879 of you know, your brain waves or whatever, but there's 229 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.600 gonna be certain little jolts to your body whenever a 230 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.480 word is mentioned or a thought is thought of or 231 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:28.159 something like that. 232 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:32.519 You know, there's types of actual therapy, not scientology's fuck 233 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:34.960 and bullshit here, but there is types of therapy that 234 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:38.039 use something similar to this to help people kind of 235 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:41.039 work through trigger points and things like that. Which fine, 236 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:44.519 there's actual science to back this up. But the way 237 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:46.759 that the scientologists have worked this out is that you 238 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.919 have two minds within you at all times. You have 239 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:52.759 the mechanical mind and the philosophical mind, and your goal 240 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:56.039 is to get to where the philosophical mind controls the 241 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:57.240 mechanical mind. 242 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:57.559 Yeah. 243 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:00.200 Yeah, And basically, your body is not going to be 244 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:06.200 under the direction of itself. You're only under the direction 245 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:10.759 of your mind because you are a mental being inside 246 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:14.080 of a physical body. And your physical body they believe 247 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:16.919 in reincarnation and things like this. It's so all right. 248 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:20.399 That was my earliest experience with anything scientology, and all 249 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:23.360 I had known was the term dianetics. I never knew 250 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:26.399 l Ron Hubbard, never knew scientology any of these things. 251 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:29.360 But that's what I'm saying. They use different small things 252 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.879 that have like a kernel of truth to them to 253 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:35.120 make a wider claim and then they turned it into 254 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:38.799 a whole religion. So, without further ado, we're gonna watch 255 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:42.559 a little video here and we're gonna learn about scientology explained. 256 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:46.519 What is scientology, what do scientologists believe? And who is 257 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.919 l Ron Hubbard. This is from Illustrate to educate, shout 258 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:55.600 out to them on YouTube. Let's learn together, good cult members. 259 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.679 You might have heard of scientology, but where did it start? 260 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:02.960 What exactly do they believe in? Hey, it's Dan Zimmerman 261 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:06.200 and welcome back to illustrate to educate. In this short video, 262 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:10.159 we'll dive into a detailed explanation of the basics of scientology, 263 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:15.000 covering its origins, beliefs, texts, practices. 264 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:15.279 And so much more. 265 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:17.720 And if you find this video to be helpful, be 266 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:21.720 sure to like, comment, shareath to self improvement and spiritual 267 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:26.000 enlightenment using a structured system of counseling and self discovery. 268 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:29.399 While some view it as a genuine faith, others criticize 269 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:33.440 it as a commercial enterprise or a cult. Scientology was 270 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.000 founded by l Ron Hubbard, an American science fiction writer 271 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:42.519 and former naval officer. Before establishing Scientology, Hubbard wrote extensively 272 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:46.879 in the science fiction and fantasy genres. In nineteen fifty, 273 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:50.879 he published Dionetics, The Modern Science of Mental Health, which 274 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.320 introduced his theory of the reactive mind, claiming that past 275 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:59.200 traumatic experiences called n grams, stored in the subconscious negatively 276 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:00.600 affect present behavior. 277 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:03.879 The book Okay, so I was wrong? Is the reactive 278 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.279 mind that's the one that's the thing with, you know, 279 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:10.159 the subconscious shit that you're holding within yourself that can 280 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.000 make your body do other stuff. 281 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:17.159 But yeah, yeah, that's more of how you're wired, almost 282 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:20.200 be programmed, right. 283 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:23.519 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, and also I think it needs 284 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:26.360 to be said as much as possible, strictly in the 285 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:29.840 fantasy and sci fi realm. This guy was an author, 286 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:33.559 and then one day enough people were listening to him 287 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:37.399 to where he's like, you know what, I'm Jesus, Yeah, 288 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:39.840 well I'm jumping ahead of myself. I'm jumping ahead of myself. 289 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:40.840 We will get to it. 290 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:45.080 Book became a bestseller and sparked the dynetics movement, which 291 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:48.399 aimed to help individuals rid themselves of n grams through 292 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:52.960 a process called auditing. After the initial dynetics movement lost 293 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:57.360 momentum due to financial and organizational struggles, Hubbard refined his 294 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:00.919 ideas and formally founded the Church of Scientology in nineteen 295 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:04.919 fifty four in Los Angeles, California. He positioned it as 296 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:08.200 a religion rather than a self help movement, granting it 297 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:09.759 tax exempt status. 298 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:13.759 And for the record, the tax exempt status of this 299 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.879 is where and why Operation snow White came into the picture. 300 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:21.919 They operated tax free for a good little bit. Then 301 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.120 the irs was like, no, you're not a true religion, 302 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:26.679 and we're going to need to be taxing you the 303 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.600 correct way as an organization, and that's what led to 304 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:34.200 the undercover espionage. Again, I am getting ahead of myself, 305 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.080 but I do need to make the mentions as we 306 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:39.919 go along here. It's always been about the money. And 307 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:42.440 because religions are tax exempt in the great country of 308 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:46.200 the United States, you know there's things. 309 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.039 Yeah, there's a lot of people that absolutely take advantage 310 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:50.720 of that. There's no question for sure. 311 00:16:51.039 --> 00:16:52.200 All right, let's keep going. 312 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:57.840 Expanding its spiritual claims. Throughout the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties, 313 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:04.039 Scientology expanded globally, establishing churches and recruiting members. Hubbard developed 314 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:08.200 new teachings, including the Operating Thetan levels, which claimed to 315 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:14.039 unlock extraordinary spiritual abilities. The organization became highly secretive and controlled, 316 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:18.000 leading to conflicts with governments and ex members. In the 317 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:23.119 nineteen seventies, Scientology faced legal battles, including Operation Snow White, 318 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:27.880 a covert program where church members infiltrated US government agencies 319 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:30.960 to remove unfavorable information about Scientology. 320 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:37.119 Indeed, Operation snow White basically all of the government entities 321 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:42.400 had a lot of dirt on them, so they infiltrated 322 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:45.039 all of them just to remove that information. And this 323 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.000 is back before they had everything digitized, right, so all 324 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.400 they had to do was go in and just take 325 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:51.720 out the file and walk out with it and it 326 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:55.880 was gone for good. But again jumping way ahead of 327 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.079 the story, but the fact that we are only two 328 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:00.400 and a half minutes into this video and they are 329 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.640 already bringing up the largest and most successful espionage operation 330 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:06.880 in the history of the world, I think it's kind 331 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:07.880 of a big deal. Bro. 332 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:10.000 You know what you were talking about as far as 333 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:14.359 infusing both of your minds, This is exactly what like 334 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:17.160 bineural beats it aims to do. Like if you listen 335 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:21.319 to binural beats. There's also we've talked about it before 336 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:25.480 about the Monroe Institute with the Gateway Process, like those 337 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:29.839 Gateway Process tapes. So essentially whenever whenever people go into 338 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.559 into a meditation, and I'm just getting like psychological over here, 339 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:36.400 but whenever people go into a meditation, the goal is 340 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:42.960 to like separate your two minds, so like your intellectual, 341 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:47.480 like intelligent type of mind, and then like you're subconscious 342 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:49.440 and you're trying to really just hone in on your 343 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:55.279 subconscious and less about the the other like ego version 344 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:58.720 of you in a sense. Right, Well, what the Monroe 345 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:02.880 Institute was trying to do with the Gateway process is 346 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:07.880 that instead of separating them and only focusing on you know, 347 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:12.599 your subconscious mind and not your egoic mind, what they 348 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:14.599 were trying to do. They were trying to infuse the 349 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:17.400 two and work them and use them to your advantage 350 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:20.960 so that you can become like a spiritual intellect as 351 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:24.279 you walk in everything. And it's pretty interesting, dude, like 352 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:26.480 if you listen to them, because it's like, you know, 353 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:28.720 you get one sound in one ear, another sound in 354 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:32.440 another ear, and so whenever your brain hears the two 355 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.160 separate sounds, especially like with headphones on, it like almost 356 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:39.000 is rewiring it, and it's teaching it to listen to 357 00:19:39.079 --> 00:19:42.960 two things at once, which would be almost like teaching 358 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:46.839 your ego mind to merge with your subconscious mind in 359 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:49.880 that sense. So I'm I just want to throw it 360 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:52.319 out there, not saying that that's what these guys are doing, 361 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.039 because I think that this is like crazy bullshit, But 362 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:58.480 you know, there has been efforts to try and be 363 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:01.680 able to merge the two minds before I'm. 364 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:05.960 With you, I don't really think that plays into this necessarily, 365 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:07.920 but I'm with you as far as like kind of 366 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:11.839 synchronizing the entirety of the mind, right, And I get 367 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:16.599 that this is more it's like they are combining therapy. 368 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:18.480 And like they said, it was started as like a 369 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:22.000 self help type of thing. Then he twisted it, expanded 370 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.119 on its spirituality, expanded on its sci fi rhetoric, and 371 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:28.720 then tried to call it a religion. You see what 372 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:31.400 I'm saying. They like, individually there were small bits of 373 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:33.279 it that maybe there was a basis of truth to 374 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:35.559 that in some way, shape or form. The self help 375 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:37.839 additions and like things that people could apply to their 376 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:41.359 lives to help them become a better person. Maybe there 377 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:44.000 is something to be said for that. Did you never 378 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:46.759 get into their god Zenu? And then when you get 379 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:49.319 into the rape allegations and you get into all the 380 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:52.119 other stuff and then the giant espionage, It's like, you 381 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.400 know what I'm saying, It's not like if that was 382 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:56.839 all it was was self help, then like we wouldn't 383 00:20:56.839 --> 00:20:58.039 be having this conversation. 384 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:02.279 Why did these always have to have some sexual shit 385 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:02.640 to them? 386 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:05.920 That's what cults do? Bro not are call them are 387 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:09.000 even the ancient cults of ancient Greece. Yes, they all 388 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:12.880 had prostitutes in their temples. Religious prostitutes. That's a whole thing. 389 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:15.359 It's it's you would have to be a part of it. 390 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:19.400 There's like five archetypes to cult leaders, dude, and drugs 391 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:22.400 and sex and selling all your possessions to join them. 392 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:24.759 And they can have sex with everybody's wives, but they'll 393 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:27.000 keep the husbands and wives from having sex. Like this 394 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:27.799 is a part of it. 395 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:32.720 Yeah, that's uh, that's how you know it's it's just 396 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:34.160 gone too damn far, dude. 397 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:36.599 That's why whenever it's like like, oh, was there between 398 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:39.119 a cult and a religion, it's like, you know, I 399 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:43.519 understand outside looking in how those comparisons can be made. 400 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:47.279 There is some very key distinct differences between a cult 401 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:49.799 and a religion. I'm not even just saying a specific 402 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:54.599 I'm saying all true religions versus a cult. There's some 403 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:55.759 solid differences. Bro. 404 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.799 Well, there's a lot of sexual abuse within the church 405 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:01.519 as well, so you can't even make that distinction, not. 406 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:04.640 On an individual level. A piece of shit that's taking 407 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:07.680 advantage of somebody younger than them, or somebody who's subservient 408 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.319 to them via religious reasons. Fine, but like systemically within 409 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:12.640 the religion. 410 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:17.119 Okolism is like, that's systemic abuse. They're they're paying out 411 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:20.359 like what was it, Like, they've paid out like hundreds 412 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:22.880 of millions of dollars for rape allegations. 413 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:27.039 But when you look at a cult like Scientology and 414 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:30.920 a Catholic church, again, there's a lot of distinct differences 415 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:36.319 between the two bro a lot. Okay, So anyway, let's 416 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:39.119 keep learning more about this l ron dude. And yeah, 417 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:40.960 I just wanted to make the mention since they brought 418 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:42.839 up operations snow White and they're gonna just kind of 419 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.799 glance over it. That is what the premise of this 420 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.839 entire episode is on. But again, we are only two 421 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:51.799 and a half minutes into this episode or into this video, 422 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.160 and they're already bringing up this massive espionage thing. So 423 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:57.400 let's keep going. 424 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:02.400 This led to multiple arrests, including the imprisonment of Hubbard's wife, 425 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:06.599 Mary Sue Hubbard. After Hubbard's death in nineteen eighty six, 426 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:11.000 David Miscavige took over as the church's leader. Under his leadership, 427 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.720 Scientology aggressively expanded its influence, fought legal battles to regain 428 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.799 tax exempt status, which it achieved in the US in 429 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.480 nineteen ninety three, and sought to gain celebrity endorsements. 430 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:37.119 Is your concealed carry firearms? Now? 431 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.759 Let's look at some of the core beliefs of scientology. 432 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:44.799 Scientology does not adhere to a traditional concept of God. Instead, 433 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:48.880 it teaches that individuals are spiritual beings called Thetans, who 434 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:52.839 possess godlike potential but have forgotten their true nature. While 435 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:55.839 the Church acknowledges the existence of a supreme being or 436 00:23:55.880 --> 00:24:00.000 infinite it does not define this entity nor require followers 437 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:04.200 to believe in a specific deity. Scientology does not consider 438 00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:08.000 Jesus Christ a divine figure. While Hubbard acknowledges Jesus as 439 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:11.720 a historical person, he dismissed Christian teachings as part of 440 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.000 implanted false memories that were used to control people in 441 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:19.720 past lives. Some Scientology texts even suggest that Jesus was 442 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:25.359 an inferior spiritual figure compared to Hubbard's insights. Scientology teaches 443 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:28.880 that humans are immortal spiritual beings called Thetans, who have 444 00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:33.160 lived through countless past lives. Even on other planets, Thetans 445 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:37.160 are trapped and messed matter, energy, space, and time, and 446 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:41.920 must undergo spiritual awakening to reclaim their power. The church's 447 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.279 goal is to help Thetans free themselves from their limitations 448 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:50.119 through auditing and spiritual advancement. Next, let's look at sacred 449 00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:54.359 texts and teachings. Scientology's key teachings come from the writings 450 00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:58.720 and lectures of L. Ron Hubbard, which include Number one, dietics, 451 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:02.480 the Modern science of mental health, the Foundational. 452 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:05.680 It has notes of what I believe to be true. 453 00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.960 But this has had a feeling as we're getting into this, 454 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:10.160 I'm like, God, I'm gonna turn him into a scientologe 455 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:11.359 before it's all said and done. 456 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:13.720 No, No, I'll never bow down to any religion. But 457 00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:16.559 that being said, like, and that's that's how you pull 458 00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:19.759 people in, is that you have to give some truth, 459 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:22.160 you know what I'm saying, Like, that's how the news works, 460 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:26.000 That's how everything really works. Everything has to have some 461 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:28.759 hints of truth. It can't all be one hundred percent 462 00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:30.799 bullshit that you're never gonna rope anybody in with that. 463 00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:34.359 There's zero percent truth to anything that has been said 464 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:36.240 up until this point as of now. 465 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.640 Well, that's just our differing spiritual beliefs. 466 00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:45.319 You're right here, Yeah, fair enough. But yeah, they're appealing 467 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.279 to as broad of an audience as they can because 468 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:50.000 they're pulling a little bit from here, a little bit 469 00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:52.359 from here, and they're kind of formulating in something that's 470 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.079 like new and it's completely different and it's so much better, 471 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:57.200 and it's like the more you dig into it, though, 472 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.079 and the more you look into their literature, it's like, ohh, 473 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.160 so it's just the ramblings of one fucking psychopath that 474 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:04.160 people got behind. 475 00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:07.039 Well, was did this guy pull from any kind of 476 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:08.079 Eastern teachings? 477 00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:10.640 I know he was a sci fi writer. 478 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:14.119 I just wonder if he was interested that might be 479 00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:16.240 something worth looking into. I don't know if he had 480 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:19.480 like a guru or maybe he traveled to India or 481 00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:23.079 something like that, because this is not really that far 482 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:26.759 off from what in like U Hindu, Indus and. 483 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:30.240 Buddhas believe that as well, reincarnation spiritual being. You're trying 484 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:32.079 to break the cycle, Like, that's not a that's not 485 00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:33.599 a new thing that he just came up with. 486 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.119 Yeah, yeah, that's flagiarism, That's what I'm trying to say. 487 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:39.240 And so there's gonna be notes of what some people 488 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:40.359 may consider truth. 489 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:43.559 And I don't know I on other planets too, Bro, 490 00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.799 He's saying there is absolutely alien life on Saturn, on Venus, 491 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:49.240 on Urinus. 492 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:49.759 On I mean, I'm not her. 493 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:51.640 Yeah, I'm not gonna say that. I don't. I don't 494 00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.279 believe the planets are really places. I think that they're 495 00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:58.039 something else. But but I don't know. I mean, I'm 496 00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:00.880 not entirely thrown off. I mean there's a lot of 497 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:02.640 shit like and that's what I'm trying to say, is 498 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:07.480 that he's mixing in bullshit, which what with what other 499 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:10.400 people consider truth. Here's something that I don't I don't 500 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:13.279 think that a lot of people know. So over in India, 501 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.359 whether you're Buddhist or Hindu, they're kind of sister religions 502 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:18.039 if you really think. 503 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:21.000 About it, because of Hinduism, yeah. 504 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:25.240 Right right, And so something over in India this I 505 00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:29.319 actually just recently learned this that there was this. They 506 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:31.720 they try and teach their kids at a young age, 507 00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:35.119 like they're understanding as far as you know, Buddhism or 508 00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:37.839 Hinduism and stuff like that, and a lot of times 509 00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:40.720 they like they're like, I don't believe in Shiva or 510 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.839 or Viknu or Vishnu whatever, I don't know all the names, 511 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.079 and so they'll like battle up against it. But then 512 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:51.279 they go through like this weird sort of awakening process 513 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:55.240 and they realize this is according to what they say. 514 00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:58.599 They realize, oh my God, I am God. And so 515 00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:01.960 they start having like this crazy experience where they feel 516 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.160 one with everything, and they go back to their parents 517 00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.240 and they're like, I am God. I figured it out. 518 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:10.279 I am God, and the parents are usually always just like, well, 519 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.839 it's about time you figured that out. So it's like 520 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:17.400 it's a completely different understanding of what this reality is 521 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.599 in the West compared to the East. So I just 522 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.279 want to throw that out there, like what he's saying 523 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:27.319 is not one thousand percent bullshit. That's all I was 524 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:31.200 trying to say. Now, he did say some very like 525 00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.119 heinous things, like he believes that he was more spiritually 526 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.960 advanced or whatever than Jesus. I don't think any fucking 527 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.640 body believes that outside of this cult. 528 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.880 There's been a few that have made certain claims like that. 529 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.920 But again, like we just talked about our boy Hassan 530 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:50.559 el Sadik, you know, he thinks the same thing. But again, 531 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:55.359 this is a cult leader, just like l Ron So yeah, no, 532 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:56.480 it'd be like that. 533 00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:59.240 But I mean Charlie Mansell was on some shit there 534 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:00.839 for a little bit too. If you look into like 535 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.079 what he was saying, like that, Charles Manson. 536 00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:07.119 A cult leader, perfect example. That's what. 537 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:08.920 Yeah, that's the point that I'm trying to make is 538 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.039 that you're going to have like these spiritual hippie type 539 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.440 characters that are actually spitting on some shit, you know, 540 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.279 but then they're gonna throw their whatever it is that 541 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.960 gives them power into it as well. So yeah, I 542 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:26.359 don't doubt that the creator of scientology literally saw himself 543 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:28.920 as better than Jesus, and he acknowledged that Jesus walked 544 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:33.920 the earth. It's like you're just like saying, fuck like that, 545 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.119 you may as well just wear like an upside down 546 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:37.079 cross at that point. 547 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.960 Well, it wasn't just Jesus he came after, although, like 548 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.039 in this video, they did bring that up and he 549 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.000 said that a few times. He was basically coming after 550 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.680 every religion that did not acknowledge Xenu, the alien god, 551 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:50.680 to be the one true creator. 552 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:52.839 I never heard of that god before. 553 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:57.640 Now, yep, it because it doesn't exist. It only exists 554 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:00.119 within scientology books. It's not like that's based off of 555 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.759 an ancient religion. It's not like there's some like like 556 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.640 you said, like a far Eastern philosophy that acknowledged it. Like, no, 557 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.039 he completely made this up because it's a sci fi writer. 558 00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:13.079 To be fair, there is some kind of witchy magic 559 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.880 type of stuff out there that believes that you can 560 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.960 create gods and if you get enough people to believe 561 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.960 in this god, then they become what is called an egregre. 562 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.079 And so that agrigor pumps in all of the belief 563 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.200 and all the emotion and all of the spiritual prayer 564 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:32.240 and everything into this god and they say like like 565 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:36.680 astrally these things are born. I mean, I created my 566 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:39.440 own tulpa, you know, like, and I hope that it 567 00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.640 eventually becomes like an egregre like thor or Odin or 568 00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:44.720 some shit like that, if I get enough people on it. 569 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.440 But yeah, that's what this guy is trying to do. 570 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:54.319 He's trying to turn these fictional characters into Edgregre's that's not. 571 00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:58.039 What he says anyway, He's he is of the belief 572 00:30:58.079 --> 00:30:59.799 that this is real, although I don't even think l 573 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.000 actually believes anything. He said he saw it as a 574 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.759 business opportunity, and he found a lot of gullible people 575 00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:08.119 to follow in line with it. Then once they got 576 00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.079 the tax exempt status, then he got celebrity endorsements. It 577 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:16.720 became a power network. And then once you join this organization, 578 00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:18.599 they have so much blackmail on you that if you 579 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:21.400 ever step out of line, they'll just ruin your entire life, 580 00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:26.519 which is why not just Leanne or Lena uh lea 581 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.160 remedi Yeah, not even just her. Pretty much everybody who 582 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.240 leaves it ends up going back to it because they 583 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.599 realize like, oh, so I can't work anymore, I'm about 584 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.799 to lose my house. Because it's not just like oh 585 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:44.279 he's got your blackmail. Scientology has crept into multiple, multiple 586 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:47.799 police departments, multiple government agencies, not just from Operation snow White, 587 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.400 like in big ways. You'll get like subpoenad and your 588 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.079 house taken from you from some other shit that ain't 589 00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:56.839 got nothing to do with nothing. But then you find 590 00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:58.920 out that the judge that wrote it up is a member. 591 00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:00.680 It's shit like that, dude. 592 00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:03.200 Hmmm, Religious conquerors. 593 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.400 Home, uh, cult leader conquerors. Yeah, I wouldn't. I'm not 594 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.440 calling this to religion. There's no way, let's keep going. 595 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.519 Book explaining the reactive mind and how auditing can remove 596 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:19.319 n grams. Two Scientology A History of Man, which describes 597 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:24.039 past life experiences and concepts of thetans. Three The Creation 598 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:30.160 of Human Ability, which details auditing techniques. Four Advanced Operating 599 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:34.960 Thetan materials secret writings only available to high level scientologists. 600 00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.519 One of the most infamous teachings is the Xenu story, 601 00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.279 where Hubbard claimed that seventy five million years ago, a 602 00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:44.319 glact of ruler named Xenu sent billions of beings to 603 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:48.480 Earth then called Tigiak. He killed them with hydrogen bombs 604 00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:52.680 and trapped their spirits. These spirits, called body thetans, now 605 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:56.440 attached to humans and cause mental and emotional problems. Most 606 00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.599 of these teachings are only revealed to members after they 607 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.799 pay for years of expensive courses. 608 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.240 So that's a review of the Xenu story. 609 00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:06.960 I'm so happy you lost it right there. 610 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:11.160 Yeah, the Xenu story is a wild one, and if 611 00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.359 you wanted to look it up, there's a lot more 612 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.319 in depth to it. But yeah, Xenu came down millions 613 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:18.160 of years ago, put a bunch of beings on this 614 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.720 earth and then killed them all with hydrogen bombs. 615 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.440 Yeah, you know, it's the new age. You can't flood them. 616 00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:28.319 That's not the new age. Seventy five million years ago 617 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.799 is not the new age, big Dog, that's that's pre 618 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:31.599 Noah's flood. 619 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:34.480 No new age, as in, this guy created this within 620 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:35.880 the last one hundred years. 621 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.839 Oh yeah, this is nineteen fifty three, give or take right, right, 622 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:41.799 And the Xenu thing came to fruition because like in 623 00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:45.200 the Dianetics book, Xenu wasn't created yet in his own 624 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.960 mind the scientelogy History of Man nineteen fifty two, that 625 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.400 wasn't creating the Xenu thing. Didn't come out that way 626 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.160 in that time. Okay, if I'm not mistaken, It came 627 00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.160 out with the secret writings. 628 00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:00.319 Auditing is the central practice of scientology, similar to counting, 629 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.920 but structured as a question and answer session. A trained scientologist, 630 00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:08.840 known as an auditor helps a participant recall past traumas 631 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.400 using an e meter or an electro psychometer, a device 632 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:17.079 that allegedly measures electrical responses in the body. The goal 633 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:20.199 is to remove negative n grams and achieve a state 634 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:24.119 called clear, where a person is free from subconscious limitations. 635 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:29.320 Scientologists advance through a structured spiritual progression known as the 636 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:33.079 Bridge to Total Freedom, which includes levels such as Level 637 00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:37.280 one pre Clear a beginner who undergoes auditing, Level two 638 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:41.199 Clear a person free of n grams, and level three 639 00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:46.800 Operating Thetan levels advanced levels where a scientologist supposedly gains 640 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:51.480 extraordinary abilities such as telepathy and mind over matter control. 641 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:56.400 Each level requires expensive coursework, with costs reportedly reaching hundreds 642 00:34:56.440 --> 00:35:01.119 of thousands of dollars for completion. Scientology enforces a strict 643 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:06.360 disconnection policy, meaning members must cut ties with critics, former members, 644 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:10.159 or family members who are deemed suppressive persons. This has 645 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:14.760 led to widespread accusations of family separation and social isolation. 646 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:20.639 Again another very clear indication of cult like behavior with 647 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.599 this group. Dude, like the entire breakdown of it's super 648 00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:26.000 expensive to get to the upper levels. You got to 649 00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:28.280 cut out every single person of your life. That's not 650 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.440 about it, section yourself away from your friends and family. 651 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:36.239 It's it's insane. He basically just used another model of 652 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:41.199 a cult, but use Sci Fi behind it. But yeah. 653 00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:46.440 Scientology also heavily recruits celebrities through the Celebrity Center, offering 654 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.840 them privileged status within the church. Some of the most 655 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:55.079 famous Scientologists have included Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and Elizabeth Moss. 656 00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.280 Scientology uses these figures to promote its public image while 657 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:03.880 suppressing criticism. Lastly, let's look at some of the controversies 658 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:08.559 and criticisms that surround Scientology. Critics argue that Scientology operates 659 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.559 more like a business than a religion, requiring members to 660 00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:15.840 pay large sums of money for courses, auditing, and spiritual progress. 661 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.800 Some ex members have described it as a pay to 662 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:24.679 play system that pressures people into financial hardship. Scientology has 663 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:30.199 a history of aggressive litigation and intimidation tactics against former members, journalists, 664 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:34.280 and government officials. The Fair Game policy, created by Hubbard 665 00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:38.599 once permitted Scientologists to attack or ruin critics by any 666 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.239 means necessary. Although the church claims this policy is no 667 00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:48.079 longer in effect, many ex scientologists report continued harassment. Numerous 668 00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:52.480 former members have accused the church of abusive practices, including 669 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:56.400 forced labour in the Sea Organization, a religious order within 670 00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:01.119 Scientology where members signed billion year contracts and work under extreme. 671 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:08.280 Conditions billion year contracts. Can you imagine that? Yeah, leaving 672 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.599 in whatever is being told to you so hard that 673 00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:14.800 you're willing to sign a billion year contract to be 674 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:19.119 basically an enslaved worker within the organization. 675 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.679 Like selling your soul is really what that is? A 676 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:22.400 billion years? 677 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.719 I mean basically because they also believe that you know, 678 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:27.800 you're going to jump to another body, but that body 679 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.079 is somehow going to also know about scientology and go 680 00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:33.280 straight to it and all this stuff. 681 00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:37.960 I guess is it considered selling your soul to them? 682 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.280 Or is it giving over your soul? Like how how 683 00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:43.960 do you think they look at that? 684 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.480 I don't think you're selling it. And it's not like 685 00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.559 signing that contract means that you get to go to 686 00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.199 these secret classes. You still have to pay hundreds of 687 00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.280 thousands of dollars for the coursework. So it's it's more 688 00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.400 or less just like legally binding contracts saying you're never 689 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.800 gonna leave, I guess, and by never they do mean ever. 690 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:05.280 That sounds kind of like a lot like the uh, 691 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.480 the music industry as well, Like whenever you sign a 692 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.920 record label, they'll tell you that like it's the the 693 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.519 contract is for infinity or some crazy shit like that. 694 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.559 In h didn't Dave Chappelle even talk about that? He 695 00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.159 can't even like go to Mars and start a Chappelle 696 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:24.519 show because Comedy Central owns the name the Chappelle Show 697 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.519 in all of the universe and all the galaxy for 698 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:29.920 all eternity. And that was like how it was worded 699 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:30.719 on the contract. 700 00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:36.039 Mm hmm, yeah, so yeah, that's it seems to rhyme 701 00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:38.719 with a lot of shit here. It's a it's pretty interesting. 702 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:40.639 I didn't know that Elizabeth Moss was in that That's 703 00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:41.960 All Girl from Handmaids till. 704 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.000 I could believe it. I didn't know that, but I 705 00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:46.760 could believe it. 706 00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:49.960 And John Travolt's yeah, I know John Travolta was. Yeah, 707 00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.239 I didn't know about John Travolta. I think I only 708 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.679 ever knew about Tom Cruise and Lea Rimini. 709 00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.599 So John Travolta, actually there's interviews where he talks about it. 710 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:05.000 He's he's Tom Cruise was like their acting leader for 711 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.159 a good bit because I think, oh, the guy it 712 00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.559 took over after l Ron. I think he took a 713 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:12.400 break from it or fell out of power or whatever 714 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.039 the case was. I don't know if Tom Cruise is 715 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.159 still currently running it, but I know that he was 716 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.960 like whatever the highest level of pinnacle of whatever the 717 00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.960 fuck he's that guy. But also, whenever you look at 718 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:26.239 the course work costing that much money, yeah, it would 719 00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.480 make sense because only people with a super high tax 720 00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.400 bracket and a super high income could even afford to 721 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.440 get this special book to learn this quote unquote secret knowledge. 722 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:38.320 Oh so, I mean, here we go with Elizabeth Moss, says. 723 00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:41.039 Elizabeth Moss is a longtime member of the Church of 724 00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:44.559 Scientology and has spoken about her faith and interviews, emphasizing 725 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.760 that it is not a closed off religion and encouraging 726 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.639 people to learn about it for themselves. Despite her involvement, 727 00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.760 she has faced criticism, especially from fans of her show 728 00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:57.960 The Handmaid's Tale, who draw parallels between the show's themes 729 00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.000 and Scientology. 730 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:04.039 I mean it's a cult following in Handmaid's Tale. 731 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:05.400 I kind of want to go back and watch it 732 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:06.880 now that we have that perspective. 733 00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:11.679 Now, it kind of it. It goes off the rails 734 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.719 pretty quickly, and it's a it's final episode just aired, 735 00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:16.719 or it's about to air, And from what I've been told, 736 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.519 people are so fucking pissed off at it right now. 737 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:23.519 Yeah right, They didn't. 738 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.280 Stick to the books like that. The books were super successful. 739 00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:28.480 If you would have just stuck to the script on that, 740 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.000 you would have had a super successful show. But of 741 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:32.000 course they can't just. 742 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.239 Do that that it'd be crazy, But so it says. 743 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:39.280 There are reports suggesting that John Travolta's involvement with the 744 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:43.400 Church of Scientology may be waning, especially following personal losses 745 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.440 in his life. However, as of now, he has not 746 00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:46.599 officially left the church. 747 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:49.280 All right, there's no way he could leave. He's too 748 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.239 deep in it. But yeah, he's he's a member. He's 749 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:53.840 not the type that's gonna go out there and shout 750 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:56.039 from the rooftops all of the rhetoric, but he's definitely 751 00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:56.480 a member. 752 00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:58.840 Oh shit, I'm about to Is it cool if I 753 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:00.920 say some of the names that like are in it 754 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.199 currently and that's left. So Jerry Seinfeld used to be 755 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:06.280 in it, he left? 756 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:08.119 Kay? 757 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:11.639 Who else? Michael Pina he's currently in it? 758 00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:13.800 No, you know? 759 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:15.599 Uh? 760 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.360 He was Jake Gyllenhall's boy an end up watch the 761 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:19.960 Mexican guy. 762 00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.360 Oh yeah, I could see him being a member for sure. 763 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.440 Damn I really like him. 764 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:25.800 Uh uh uh. 765 00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:30.760 Laura Prepond, oh fucking redhead from that seventy show. 766 00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:33.320 She left it absolutely, she's a member. 767 00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:37.599 Yeah, she left it. Elizabeth Moss is currently still in 768 00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.760 Katie Holmes left what she was married to Tom Cruise. 769 00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:44.239 Yeah, dude, she got brainwashed bad, Like she is not 770 00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:45.599 mentally okay these days. 771 00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:49.760 Oh. Juliette Lewis, she's she's still in it. If you 772 00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:53.599 remember you know her, she's Oh, she was in old 773 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:58.920 school whenever uh Luke fucking what's his name came home. 774 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:00.760 It was like in the of the movie, it was 775 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:02.280 the girl that he was dating, and he came home 776 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:03.519 and she was like all. 777 00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:06.519 These other dudes having the gang bang yeah yeah. 778 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.599 Yeah, and he was like, I'm into this and then 779 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:14.440 he saw all the other people. Nicole Kidman left good for. 780 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:16.679 Her, although now she's in a movie where she's like 781 00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.400 super old dating a twenty year old assistant. It's it's weird. 782 00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.719 There's like some crazy sex scenes in it, and it's 783 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:28.119 like apparently they were actually having sex on camera. Oh, 784 00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.320 she got mad and had to stop filming because she 785 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.039 was getting too turned on and like they filmed it 786 00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:34.800 so much that she had to, like her body needed 787 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.239 to take breaks, and it's like what do you what 788 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.920 do you mean with that one? Like you you mean 789 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.639 like your emotions need to take a break, or your 790 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:45.639 she said, her body like, as. 791 00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.360 In she had to go change on pannies, girl. 792 00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.280 As in her pussy was getting pounded so much. You 793 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.079 needed to take a little breather. That's look, I don't know. 794 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.800 Usually sex scenes and movies there's like very strategic, like 795 00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.440 pieces of cardboard that are placed, or a sheet that's 796 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.559 in the way, or something like that. There have been 797 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:05.800 instances where actors have gone, uh, the extra mile for 798 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:09.239 the film. Apparently she's doing that right now. I don't know. 799 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.880 Okay. Uh, Kirsty Ali's still in it. Okay, Oh that's 800 00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:19.800 interesting one. Jason Lee left. So that's a old boy 801 00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:20.679 from My name is Earl. 802 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:25.360 Oh god, okay, what else? 803 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.519 Giovanni? Oh shit, I didn't. I never knew this guy's name, 804 00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:35.920 Giovanni Ribissi. If you remember, he was Nicholas nick Cage's 805 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:40.880 brother in Gone in Sixty Seconds. Oh really he is 806 00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:42.599 currently in it? 807 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:44.159 Yeah, I could see that. 808 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.960 Christopher Reeve left Old Superman all right. 809 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.000 Wait, didn't he die? 810 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:55.199 Yeah, he eventually ended up dying, but he left before 811 00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.239 he died. Okay, okay, Uh, Jenna Elfman, who the fuck? 812 00:43:59.320 --> 00:43:59.519 Is that. 813 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:04.039 I don't know who that is, Mimi. I'm just gonna 814 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.199 name some of the Oh. Oh, Ethan Superley is in 815 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:13.599 it also, he's my name is Earl the co main character, 816 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.079 the big guy, the big Guy. 817 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.360 Yeah, oh, Louis last I can remember the Titans. Dude. 818 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.599 Yes, yes, he's in it. 819 00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:22.079 I know. 820 00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.800 He just went through a crazy transformation. He's like killing 821 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.159 it right now. He's got like he's a powerlifter. Now 822 00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:29.639 he lost a bunch of weight. But like I didn't 823 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:31.440 know he was a Scientology member, but all. 824 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:36.360 Right, yeah yeah. Then there's Beck the music guy. 825 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:37.320 I could see that. 826 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:41.639 John Travolta's course in it. Who else do we god? 827 00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:41.920 Here? 828 00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:46.079 Nancy Cartwright is still in it. So she's the voice 829 00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:50.840 of Bart Simpson. Oh okay, we're always worrying about, like, 830 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.519 you know, curious about how the Simpsons always get it right? 831 00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:55.079 Could it be because of Scientology. 832 00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.079 I don't know when she became a member. The Simpson's 833 00:44:58.119 --> 00:44:59.559 been on the air for quite some time. But then 834 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.599 again Scientology to get their religious status put back in 835 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:04.760 ninety three, So I mean, hey, who knows? 836 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.320 Well it says she's been a long time voice of 837 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:11.599 Bart Simpson and has been an avid scientologist for decades. 838 00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.800 Damn all right, Bart Simpson is a scientologist. Who would 839 00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:16.880 have thought so. 840 00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.920 Like you said, they are looking for celebrity endorsements, right, and. 841 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:25.239 That Danny Masterson. Isn't it really that seventy show? 842 00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:31.079 Yep? Again I could see it. Yeah, Danny Madison was hyde, right, 843 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:35.639 the one who's in Jena right now for pedophilia. Yep. Yeah, yeah, 844 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:36.920 that kind of checks out. 845 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.840 I didn't want to believe that whenever that came out, Dude. 846 00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:41.920 I didn't want to. But I mean it's also not 847 00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:43.800 crazy to believe that. 848 00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:44.800 Ah. 849 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.800 Yeah. You got to be able to separate the character 850 00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:49.800 on screen from the person in real life. It's hard 851 00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:51.960 to do that for some people, you know, especially like 852 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.039 if you love a character like you know, one thing 853 00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:57.960 for me is like it would be really hard for 854 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:02.760 me to hear something like rapie or cult like rapee 855 00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.800 with like Johnny Depp for example, Like, I mean, he 856 00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:08.400 has his own shit with old Amber heard he's definitely 857 00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.039 tied in with some wild people. There's no doubt about that. 858 00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:13.599 But yeah, that would be one that would be fucking 859 00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:14.599 hard to separate. 860 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:18.519 I'm not saying this like I know something or anything. 861 00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.199 But it wouldn't shock me if he was on the 862 00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.159 Epstein flight log or was that a diddy party like that? 863 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.679 Doesn't that wouldn't sound crazy to me whatsoever. 864 00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:28.920 Yeah, it wouldn't shock me. It would just hurt me. 865 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:30.679 I feel that. 866 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:32.519 So anyway, let's get back to it. I just want 867 00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:34.559 to throw out some names in case anybody, because I 868 00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.360 didn't know almost all of those names that were in it, 869 00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:39.599 or even the names that left, so just to throw 870 00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:40.760 a little perspective on it. 871 00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:43.800 Yeah, all right, So now we're gonna talk about a 872 00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:47.360 lady named paul Ette Cooper before we talk about Operation 873 00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:55.360 snow White. This lady, in particular, Scientology waged war against 874 00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:59.519 her and she never really had anything against them until 875 00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:04.920 they came at her. Honestly, the stories are insane. The 876 00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:09.320 level of field work as far as spy games goes, 877 00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:12.320 that they did on this woman to make a point 878 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.639 is insane. So not going to go into the whole 879 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.800 overview here, we could read this first paragraph and the 880 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:19.559 I'm gonna say a little bit about her early life 881 00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:21.239 and then we're going to talk about the controversy. 882 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.159 So paul Add Cooper born in nineteen forty two, she's 883 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:24.679 still alive. 884 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:29.199 I oh, so she's age eighty two, so she must 885 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:30.639 still be a love I love that. 886 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.039 As an American author and journalist who's writing against the 887 00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:38.000 Church of Scientology resulted in harassment from Scientologist. An early 888 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:41.920 critic of the church, she published The Scandal of Scientology 889 00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:45.039 in nineteen seventy one. She endured many years of attacks 890 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:48.960 from church leadership and their agents, including lawsuitsmear campaigns, overt 891 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.679 and covert surveillance, outright threats, and even a criminal frame 892 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:56.079 up church and founder are Church founder and leader l 893 00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:59.880 Ron Hubbert was reportedly obsessed with her and personally plotted 894 00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:03.000 a against her. The Church of Scientology instituted a total 895 00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:06.119 of nineteen lawsuits against Cooper from all over the world. 896 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.840 She countersued them three times before finally settling with the 897 00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:13.079 church in nineteen eighty five. Cooper has authored or co 898 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.920 authored nearly two dozen books, covering a wide range of 899 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.239 topics including travel, missing persons, psychics, pets, in addition to Scientology. 900 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.320 Her books have sold close to half a million copies 901 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:22.639 in total. 902 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.960 Good for so a little bit about her backstory. She 903 00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:30.360 was born in nineteen forty two in occupied Belgium from 904 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.360 the Nazis and her parents She's Jewish if I'm not mistaken, 905 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.079 and her parents were sent to Auschwitz. Okay, so she 906 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:41.000 was an orphan Long story short. She ends up in America. 907 00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:43.760 She was adopted by an American family. There was a 908 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.960 lot of back in the day. There was a lot 909 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:51.079 of stipulations to who could and could not adopt. If 910 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.159 you were too old, or if you were a gay 911 00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:57.199 couple or even suspected of being a gay couple or whatever, 912 00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.079 you were not going to be allowed to adopt a 913 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:03.480 child regardless. So there was kind of these underground ways 914 00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:06.039 of doing it right, kind of off the books ways 915 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.679 of adopting children, especially from Europe after World War Two, 916 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.639 when all of these adults were killed or lost or 917 00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:14.239 whatever the case. They had a lot of kids and 918 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:15.000 needed to find homes. 919 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.840 I think a lot of those orphanages were like like 920 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:21.360 church like churches that were administering that kind of stuff, right. 921 00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:25.719 Typically, typically orphanages are ran by religious organizations. Right. So, 922 00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.199 long story short, she makes her way to America. She 923 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.360 gets with a great mom and dad who love her. 924 00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:37.280 They adopt her all of the stuff. Now, let's jump 925 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:44.920 in with the conflict with scientology. It says BPDQ, real quick. 926 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:48.719 It's a worldwide advertising agency network with headquarters in New 927 00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:51.679 York City. So just whenever we use that acronym, understand 928 00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:53.039 that that's what I was talking about. She had got 929 00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:57.920 a job there. But anyway, the conflict with scientology. 930 00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:02.239 Yeah, it's BBDO, not Q, says, excuse me or Cooper's 931 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:05.199 interest in scientology began with a disturbing visit from a 932 00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:09.199 former bbd O colleague. The man told her that through 933 00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.159 his involvement with scientology, he had learned that he had 934 00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.519 learned he was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. So many 935 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.599 people just want to be this guy, right. 936 00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:20.639 Even though they just said that he wasn't more enlightened 937 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.400 than Hubbard. But this random member of the church came 938 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:26.280 and told her, by the way on the reincarnation of 939 00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:29.639 Jesus Christ, and also, by the way, God has decided 940 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:31.119 that I get to rape you now. 941 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.679 Holy shit, he announced that, yeah, and says, but Cooper 942 00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.920 managed to get him out of her apartment without incident. 943 00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:41.639 She called her. She called a former boyfriend who had 944 00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:45.280 himself experimented with scientology and told him about the visitors 945 00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:47.599 claimed that he was Jesus maybe he really is. The 946 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:49.559 ex boyfriend said Cooper. 947 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:51.760 Hye, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, let's let's let's 948 00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:54.599 not sidestep over that one. Okay, So, and the entire 949 00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:57.719 story of what happened. Basically, she was like in a 950 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.920 nightgown or something at her in her apartment. This guy 951 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.079 came over and I'm not sure if it was to 952 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.239 give her a statement or like as a source for 953 00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:09.320 an article or whatever, but he straight up told her 954 00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.159 I'm Jesus and I'm going to rape you now because 955 00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.960 God told me I can do that. She basically was like, 956 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.960 I think God told you to take a picture of 957 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.440 me first though, right, And he's like, yes, yes he did. 958 00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:24.840 And so she like got the camera and did this 959 00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:26.280 and this and kind of led him out of the 960 00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:28.079 apartment to get a shot and then locked the door. 961 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.039 So like she got him out and coerced him out. 962 00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:33.960 Calls the ex boyfriend, who kind of dabbled a little bit. 963 00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:36.400 His response was like, oh my God, are you okay? 964 00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:38.480 Call the cops? This and this. Wait the guy said 965 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:41.079 he was Jesus. That's crazy. His response was, yeah, but 966 00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:42.800 like maybe he is Jesus. 967 00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:47.199 Well, that's probably somebody who has something negative to say 968 00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.159 about Christianity though, But. 969 00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:54.320 It's scientologists, is my point. The level of asinine backasswords 970 00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:56.360 thinking that goes into this. It's like, well, I mean, 971 00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:58.280 if he said he was Jesus, how do you know 972 00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.199 he's not bro he was about to Yeah, but I 973 00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:02.800 mean maybe he was. 974 00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.320 Though, gotta put that divine seed in your baby, that's 975 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:10.679 so fucking stupid. Yeah. So Cooper, thinking that she may 976 00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.440 have stumbled on an intriguing story subject, signed up for 977 00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:18.440 an introductory communication course at the local Scientology Org. Between sessions, 978 00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.840 she explored the facility, asking questions and even taking several 979 00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:26.599 documents from an office. One document listed deemed suppressive person's 980 00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:30.599 enemies of Scientology. She began work on a Scientology article 981 00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.800 in earnest. She later said of her motivation to write 982 00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:36.760 about Scientology in quotes, I had a master's degree in 983 00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:40.760 psychology and had studied comparative religion at Harvard for a summer. 984 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:43.519 And what I learned during my research about the group 985 00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:46.760 founded by l. Ron Hubbard was both fascinating and frightening. 986 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.119 The story cried out to be told. 987 00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:53.039 So then she writes an article that gets published in 988 00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.239 Queen magazine, and that is pretty much where all of 989 00:52:56.280 --> 00:53:02.039 her conflict really came from. It started with the Queen article. 990 00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:05.000 So through interviews with her former church or with former 991 00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.400 church members, Cooper learned about the organization's internal methods of 992 00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:10.679 control and the harassment of those who left. When the 993 00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:14.440 United States FDA Food and Drug Administration rated the Washington 994 00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.679 rated the Washington d C Church in nineteen sixty three, 995 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:21.719 Agents and Police sees thousands of pages of documents, from 996 00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:25.679 which Cooper gleaned additional insights. She also procured a copy 997 00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:29.000 of the Anderson Report, a damning nineteen sixty five indictment 998 00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:31.599 of the church from the Australian state of Victoria, which 999 00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:36.159 denounced the church's methods as psychologically abusive and recommended banning it. 1000 00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:40.679 The church's already litigious reputation made many publications wary of 1001 00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:46.400 Scientology stories. Nevertheless, London's Queen magazine eventually included Cooper's article, 1002 00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:52.760 titled that the Tragy Farce of Scientology, in its December 1003 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.719 nineteen sixty nine issue. It was the last issue before 1004 00:53:55.760 --> 00:54:00.519 it was absorbed into Harper's Bazaar. While it mainly addressed 1005 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:03.360 the harassment of Scientology critics, it was the first Scientology 1006 00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:07.480 story to delve into sexual misconduct by church auditors. Shortly 1007 00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:11.559 after its publication, Cooper received two anonymous telephone death threats 1008 00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:14.639 warning her to stop writing about Scientology. 1009 00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:18.199 So the death threats kane, okay. Then they started trying 1010 00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:22.199 to frame her for crimes as she didn't commit. Then 1011 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:26.239 they sek their secret organization after her, the Guardians. But 1012 00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:27.639 we're going to get to those in a moment. 1013 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:31.400 Cooper leveraged her research for the magazine article to produce 1014 00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.000 a twenty two chapter book called The Scandal of Scientology, 1015 00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:38.840 subtitled A Chilling Examination of the nature, beliefs and practices 1016 00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:42.800 of the now Religion. She pitched this episode this expose 1017 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:47.679 as a trove of exciting, interesting, unknown, controversial material. Despite 1018 00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:51.519 multiple lawsuits from the Church of Scientology, Tower Publications released 1019 00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:54.960 the book in June nineteen seventy one. It's appendix, The 1020 00:54:55.119 --> 00:55:00.880 Scientologist's Story included authors questions with answers provided by David Gaiman, 1021 00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:06.039 then the public relations director of Scientology in England. Soon 1022 00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:09.639 after publication, the Church sued Cooper for libel over the 1023 00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:15.159 Queen Magazine article, though Harper's Bizarre settled the matter quickly. 1024 00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.880 In December, the Church followed with the lawsuit against the 1025 00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:23.719 book itself in Los Angeles Superior Court alleging untrue libelists 1026 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.519 and defamatory statements about the Church Tower. Publications would buy 1027 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:30.119 itself out of the lawsuit in late nineteen seventy three, 1028 00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:34.320 to Cooper's disappointment. A Scientology defector would later claim that 1029 00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:36.639 she saw a copy of the Scandal of Scientology and 1030 00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.800 the lounge of the Apollo, the flagship of the Scientology's 1031 00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:40.800 sea organization. 1032 00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:44.559 Oh yeah, that Sea org is a whole other thing too, 1033 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.400 so and not to jump ahead again. So l Rom 1034 00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:50.599 was under indictment for so many different things that basically 1035 00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.599 he created a sea fleet of yachts. He had three 1036 00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:59.880 of them. It was the Apollo, the Diana, and the Artemis, 1037 00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:02.639 I think, and he just basically kept these boats in 1038 00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:05.760 international waters so that no country who was looking for 1039 00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:08.800 him to arrest him could find him. He would only 1040 00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:10.599 drop off in port for maybe a day or two 1041 00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.639 to spread his message in bullshit and rhetoric, and then 1042 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:15.840 get back out to air national waters before the country 1043 00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:17.840 even knew he was there. And that was his life 1044 00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.679 for a few years. Again, kind of a massive red flag. 1045 00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:24.239 As you trying to sound like you're a religious leader. 1046 00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:24.760 I don't know. 1047 00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:28.920 Then there were attacks by the Guardian's Office. So by 1048 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.519 early nineteen seventy one, Cooper was being targeted by the 1049 00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:34.840 Guardian's Office of the Church of Scientology, since superseded by 1050 00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:38.519 the Office of Special Affairs or OSA. This organization, linked 1051 00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:42.480 to church founder A. Ron Hubbard's wife, Mary Sue, was 1052 00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:46.360 the Church's sophisticated spy and intelligence operation. They heard about 1053 00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:49.719 Cooper's book and tried to stop its publication through various means. 1054 00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:53.320 They used the church's legal apparatus to threaten her publisher 1055 00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.599 with lawsuits. While she was visiting Scotland for a travel story, 1056 00:56:56.760 --> 00:57:00.760 dozens of strangers staked staked out her home, tell and 1057 00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:05.000 some followed, photographed, or even called her. David Gaiman, also 1058 00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:09.400 a GEO operative, even met her at the airport with 1059 00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:11.679 fake ritz for libel. 1060 00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:16.480 So real quick. The Guardian's Office was their secret police 1061 00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:20.800 of Scientology. It wasn't just like four or five members 1062 00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.199 close to the top that kind of had an extra, 1063 00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:26.360 you know, extra stick up their ass towards her. This 1064 00:57:26.519 --> 00:57:31.280 was an extremely sophisticated spy network that was international. The 1065 00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:34.840 Guardian organ The Guardian's Office is the group that launched 1066 00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:39.239 the Snow White operation, which had thousands of spies get 1067 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:42.920 caught in espionage. Damn no, I mean like two thousand. 1068 00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:44.320 I mean like thirteen thousand. 1069 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:48.559 So in early nineteen seventy two, a Guardian's Office memo 1070 00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:52.800 referred to Cooper as an unhandled attacker of Scientology, and 1071 00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:56.519 the organization stepped up its surveillance and harassment. They researched 1072 00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:59.920 her past, her personal life, and even her college grades. 1073 00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:03.800 Cooper received many obscene phone calls and some threatening ones. 1074 00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:08.400 Damage her telephone line suggested someone had eavesdropped on her 1075 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:09.599 and March. 1076 00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:14.519 With the obscene phone calls, she had multiple dudes every 1077 00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:17.920 day calling her describing what they were going to do 1078 00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:20.639 to her when they got their hands on her. It 1079 00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:23.599 was do you think the guy claiming to be Jesus 1080 00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:25.400 saying that now I can rape you? Thing was bad? 1081 00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:28.679 This was the worst of the worst of what they 1082 00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:30.480 were planning to do with her with a physical and 1083 00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:33.840 sexual evil behind him. Every day she received multiple phone 1084 00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:34.440 calls about this. 1085 00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:37.760 Do you remember that email that we got from like 1086 00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:42.480 Islamic terrorist or some bullshit that was threatening to like 1087 00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:46.239 rape our wives and rape our kids and you know, 1088 00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:48.920 and dude, that was like less than a year ago. 1089 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:51.519 We got that. So there are absolutely people out there 1090 00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:54.519 that will like say disgusting shit like that, like in 1091 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:58.039 the name of their own religion, and it's fucking weird. 1092 00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:01.039 Dude. This is to kind of make her stop because 1093 00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:02.960 they knew. They tried bringing her to court, but they 1094 00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:06.880 couldn't because what she was talking about they couldn't deny. 1095 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:09.599 So they kept trying to handle out of court and 1096 00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:11.639 all this stuff. Then they tried to keep the book 1097 00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:13.639 from being published. Then they were just trying to silence 1098 00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:16.599 her and aside from killing her, which we will get to, 1099 00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:19.320 they were trying to just make her stop talking. 1100 00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:23.280 Also in March, Cooper was named as one of the 1101 00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:27.440 eighteen defendants in another church lawsuit, which alleged a conspiracy 1102 00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:32.360 to produce Robert Kauffman Kaufman's book Inside Scientology. This connection 1103 00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:35.239 put her in contact with l Ron Hubbard aka NIBBs, 1104 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:36.800 son of the church founder. 1105 00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:40.840 Elron Hubbard Junior, Oh John or this was called Nibs. 1106 00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:44.119 So this was the son of l Ron Hubbard and 1107 00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:48.039 he did her so fucking dirty on this one, dude. 1108 00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.400 So he was the son of the church founder and 1109 00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:54.519 a prominent Scientology defector. Together, they collaborated on a long essay, 1110 00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:59.159 a look inside Scientology while staying with Cooper's parents, Cooper, NIBBs, 1111 00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:02.199 and Kaufman Discover to discuss their work on multiple radio 1112 01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:06.960 and television programs. Internal GO memos suggest the organization considered 1113 01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:11.360 plans to ruin Cooper's father, Ted's finances and diamond businesses, 1114 01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:17.159 thus cutting off one of PC's financial supports. An impostor 1115 01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:22.519 had her phone briefly disconnected a scandal she'd circulated accusing 1116 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:27.000 Cooper of sexual deviancy in writing pornography, writing pornography. 1117 01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:30.360 Okay, yeah, so basically when she moved to a whole 1118 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:35.159 new apartment complex, they had pamphlets that were being handed 1119 01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.760 out saying that she was a pedophile and that she 1120 01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:40.960 was like a sexual deviant and all these disgusting things. 1121 01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:43.880 It was a new apartment complex. Nobody in this place 1122 01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.480 knew she was living in New York City. They don't 1123 01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:49.239 know who this random woman is, but the Scientology members 1124 01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.079 just started spreading these flyers with her name, making all 1125 01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:57.519 these crazy claims. L Ron's son Nibs. Okay, there was 1126 01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:01.119 a bomb threat that was called in multiple bomb threats 1127 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:04.519 that were called into the Scientology Church's main headquarters. Right, 1128 01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:06.920 And I'm not sure if they're going to get into 1129 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.599 it on this one or if it's on a later article, 1130 01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:11.360 but just the quick you know, TLDR of this one, 1131 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.920 one of the bomb threat threats was typed up on 1132 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.519 her stationary from her typewriter and had one of her 1133 01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:23.440 fingerprints on the back. She couldn't figure out how the 1134 01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:25.639 fuck because she of course didn't write this. She's not 1135 01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:28.679 a terrorist, she was a reporter. But how did the 1136 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:32.280 Scientology group get into her apartment and get on her typewriter? 1137 01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:36.599 Then she realized, oh shit, nibs because he left the 1138 01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:39.239 church for ten years and then went back to him. 1139 01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:43.199 So then the whole house. They got the fingerprint on 1140 01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:45.440 the back. There was a couple of wild stories about 1141 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:48.800 how they probably accomplished that one as well. Y'all we're 1142 01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:52.800 talking real spy work, real field craft to get this 1143 01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.639 to make her look framed for these crimes. She was 1144 01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.519 acquainted of everything for obvious reasons. But like that is 1145 01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:01.039 the level they were going to ruin her life? 1146 01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:04.119 Yeah, this is It sounds like it's before in the 1147 01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:06.880 before the day and age of computers before you could 1148 01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:09.840 plant like child pornography on a computer. Like a lot 1149 01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:12.760 of that shit goes on even nowadays. And they know that, 1150 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:14.800 Like that's the best thing you can do if you're 1151 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:17.079 trying to frame somebody, because who's gonna stick up for 1152 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:20.519 the pedophile, you know exactly. And so it's a psychological 1153 01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:23.000 mind fuck, is really what they do with that. But 1154 01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:26.639 they're I mean to be honest, if it's it's genius 1155 01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:28.239 and it's evil genius shit. 1156 01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:32.960 Really yeah, and that's that was what the Guardian Organization 1157 01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:35.519 was doing, the Guardian Office. 1158 01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:40.719 Right right, So where we uh, Operation Dynamite right here? 1159 01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:41.119 In March? 1160 01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:44.440 Oh okay, In March, Cooper sued the New York Church 1161 01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:47.360 of Scientology for fifteen point four million, hoping to stop 1162 01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:50.199 the harassment. Also in March, Cooper was named as one 1163 01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:51.960 of the eighteen defendants. No I read that. 1164 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.320 Ohh okay, okay, sorry as I sorry. So the son 1165 01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:58.440 of the co founder discussed the work internal GEO membo. Yeah, okay, okay, 1166 01:02:58.480 --> 01:02:59.760 we're good. Operation Dynamite. 1167 01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:03.880 Oh so in nineteen seventy In nineteen seventy two, the 1168 01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:08.559 GEO launched Operation Dynamite to attempt commitment procedures on Cooper. 1169 01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:12.159 A critical sequence of developments and suspicious events occurred in 1170 01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:16.639 December of nineteen seventy two, the sixth. In December sixth, 1171 01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:20.559 Cooper signed a petition offered to her by a Canvasser 1172 01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:22.440 named is that Canvasser? 1173 01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:25.880 Yeah, So basically the people that are sitting outside like saying, hey, 1174 01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:27.760 will you sign this petition to do this and do 1175 01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:28.960 this okay? 1176 01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:32.880 Named Margie. On the eighth, the Church of Scientology in 1177 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:35.920 New York received the first of two poorly written bomb threats. 1178 01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:39.000 The church alerted the FBI, naming Cooper as as a 1179 01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:43.559 possible suspect Jesus the thirteenth. The second threat was hand 1180 01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:46.079 delivered to the church the fifteenth. Cooper moved to a 1181 01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:49.440 new apartment. The nineteenth, Cooper's cousin was attacked by an 1182 01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:52.760 armed intruder while staying at Cooper's old apartment. Oh probably 1183 01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:53.880 aimed at her right. 1184 01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:56.800 They were coming after her, but she had already moved. 1185 01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:01.840 Then, in February nineteen seventy three, some anonymous flyers appeared 1186 01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:04.679 all over Cooper's new apartment building, accusing her of various 1187 01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:08.719 sexual perversions, including pedophilia. Cooper suspected her ex boyfriend from 1188 01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:12.039 BBDO had provided the Church of Scientology with certain details 1189 01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:16.960 mentioned in the letter, details also hinted at in the 1190 01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.960 first bomb threat. The pedophilia claim was oddly similar to 1191 01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:24.039 an incident involving a church auditor that she had researched 1192 01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:27.280 for her book. Soon after, Cooper received a federal grand 1193 01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:30.280 jury subpoena and learned that she was a prime suspect 1194 01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.199 in the bomb threats. At the hearing, the prosecutor revealed 1195 01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:35.800 that Cooper's fingerprint was found on the second bomb threat letter. 1196 01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:40.519 Both writers letters were also linked to Cooper's typewriter. NIBBs 1197 01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:43.800 had reconciled with Scientology in the fall of nineteen seventy 1198 01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:47.360 two and probably provided intelligence on Cooper. Details about Cooper 1199 01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:50.880 in the first bomb threat letter suggested that he may 1200 01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.400 have helped write it. He also had access to her 1201 01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:57.559 typewriter while they were collaborating. Cooper would later see letters 1202 01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.280 from NIBBs to his father in which he claim to 1203 01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:04.639 be actively working against his father's in quotes enemies. Such 1204 01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:09.800 individuals fell under Scientology's fair game policy, meaning may may 1205 01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:12.960 be deprived of property or injured by any means by 1206 01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:18.480 any Scientologist and tricked sued or lied or destroyed. Damn. 1207 01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:19.400 That's written within it. 1208 01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:23.079 That's a part of their religious text, if. 1209 01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:25.760 You will, a little bit of the dogma there. So 1210 01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:28.119 it says Cooper's fingerprints on the second letter may have 1211 01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:31.000 come from Nibs or from the petition she signed in 1212 01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:31.800 early December. 1213 01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:35.079 So I've heard a couple of different reports on this one, right, 1214 01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:38.880 So the person with the petition, it is possible that 1215 01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:41.199 NIBBs had typed up the bomb threat and had that 1216 01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:44.320 like on the back of the clipboard, and when Cooper 1217 01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:46.599 came and grabbed the clipboard to sign the petition, that's 1218 01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.480 how they got the fingerprints. There's another story that happened 1219 01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:52.639 where like this guy was at a bar that you frequented, right, 1220 01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:55.960 and he had this piece of paper on a clipboard. 1221 01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:57.440 It was like a dad joke, and he was like 1222 01:05:57.480 --> 01:05:59.679 showing everybody at the bar, and he was trying to 1223 01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:01.760 get Cooper to take the clipboard and read it, but 1224 01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:03.519 she kind of looked over her shoulder and read it 1225 01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:06.920 rather than just took it. Right. Two days later, the 1226 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:10.400 same guy is outside of her apartment showing anybody that 1227 01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:13.480 will look another stupid, corny dad joke on a clipboard, 1228 01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:16.920 and Cooper actually picked it up this time and took 1229 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:18.920 it and read it, and I was like, a haha, whatever, 1230 01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:21.239 next thing, you know, her fingerprints are found on this 1231 01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:26.920 bomb thread. We're talking true spycraft fieldwork. Dude. 1232 01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.880 Yeah, that's what it sounds like. So on May seventeenth, 1233 01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:34.199 nineteen seventy three, Cooper was indicted in connection with the threats. 1234 01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:37.519 By this time, the GEO had come to refer to 1235 01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:41.320 the campaign against Cooper as Operation Lovely, since her code 1236 01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:45.400 name and internal GO correspondences was missus Lovely. While she 1237 01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:49.199 awaited trial, Cooper depended heavily on several close friends, two 1238 01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:51.320 of whom turned out to be agents of the Church 1239 01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:55.280 of Scientology. Paula end quotes, had been introduced to her 1240 01:06:55.400 --> 01:06:59.639 by end quote Margie the Canvasser from December. Paula disappeared 1241 01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:02.119 soon after or Cooper discovered a photo of a woman 1242 01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:06.679 who resembled her in Scientology's Freedom magazine. Jerry in quotes often, 1243 01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:11.239 Oh I wonder if that's Jerry Seinfeld, uh before his. 1244 01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:14.079 Time seventies, Yeah so, uh so. 1245 01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:17.199 Jerry often stayed in her apartment and would eventually move 1246 01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.760 in uh for several months, during which time he reported 1247 01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:24.000 regularly to the GEO, and one GEO memo, he noted 1248 01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.320 that if Cooper became depressed enough to commit suicide, wouldn't 1249 01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:31.159 this be a great thing for scientology. On several occasions 1250 01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.760 he tried to coax Cooper And uh, is it coax 1251 01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:38.639 or coax? How do you say that? Cox? Cox tried 1252 01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.960 to coax Cooper to stand with him on dangerous on 1253 01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:45.559 the dangerous ledge of the thirty third floor apartment. How 1254 01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:46.000 about that? 1255 01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:49.800 Yeah, yeah, totally. Oh if she committed suicide, that would 1256 01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:53.159 be awesome. Hey, hey, come come join me on the balcony. 1257 01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:56.880 Whoa stand up on this ledge of me? It's so crazy, Like, bro, what? 1258 01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:59.719 And these are two what you would consider close friends 1259 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:03.280 that were they're actually secret agents trying to undermine and 1260 01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:04.400 in some cases kill her. 1261 01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:06.800 Yeah, it's not a chakra. I know that a lot 1262 01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:09.639 of people will see that thirty three and instantly just 1263 01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:12.199 assume freemasonry, which I'm not gonna say that it's not. 1264 01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.480 But there's like a lot of symbolism with thirty three 1265 01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:18.279 in general, Like, you know, there's the thirty three vertebrae 1266 01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:21.279 of your spine. Jesus died at thirty three. There's like 1267 01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:23.439 a lot of other thirty three weird shit as to 1268 01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:26.840 why people like love to use that number in uh 1269 01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:28.439 numerology and shit like that. 1270 01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:31.439 I mean the apartment they were saying that happened to 1271 01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:34.000 be thirty three floors. Now maybe the builders had that 1272 01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:35.359 kind of intention behind it. 1273 01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:38.479 I don't know, but y so was the top floor 1274 01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:40.960 The top floor was a thirty third Oh yeah, okay, 1275 01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:42.560 so it could have just been a builder thing. 1276 01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:46.159 Anyway, the Masonic thing, if we're gonna be technical, so 1277 01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:48.119 like it may have been done with that intention. I 1278 01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:51.039 don't know. But the point of this was that they 1279 01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:53.039 were trying to kill her. They were trying to make 1280 01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:55.159 her go psychotic. They were trying to make her look 1281 01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:57.600 like a pedophile. They were trying to discredit her in 1282 01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:00.439 any way they could because they knew that everything she 1283 01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:02.880 was writing about was accurate, and they did not want 1284 01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:04.600 to go to court and talk about it because they 1285 01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:05.520 couldn't refute it. 1286 01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:09.920 So Jerry in Quotes disappeared after Cooper found his name 1287 01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:14.039 in a Scientology publication and confronted him about it. Later, 1288 01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:17.520 former Scientology operatives would identify him as a man using 1289 01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:22.840 the aliast don Alverso. The church's most senior spy at 1290 01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:23.239 the time. 1291 01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:28.560 The most senior spy that they had was on Paula's case. 1292 01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:32.039 Bro Meanwhile, the smear campaign continued and March a smear 1293 01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:34.720 letter was sent to her parents. Similar letters addressed to 1294 01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:37.920 her boyfriend, which also threatened his career, would eventually destroy 1295 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:41.319 their relationship. The United States of America Versus paul Lette 1296 01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:44.239 Marcilla Cooper never went to trial. Cooper made a deal 1297 01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:47.199 with the US Attorney's Office in which she admitted no guilt. 1298 01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:50.840 On September sixteenth, nineteen seventy five, the US Attorney's Office 1299 01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:58.079 formally filed a Noll prosec quite I think Noll prosecution 1300 01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:00.720 or something like that. In the case, they skateed through 1301 01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:04.479 it out right right. Though she avoided a trial, she 1302 01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:08.199 still feared the indictment becoming a public and damaging her 1303 01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:11.640 career prospects. Cooper had failed a polygraph early on, but 1304 01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:14.520 she passed a truth serum test shortly before the indictment 1305 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:18.119 was dropped. She was ultimately vindicated when the FBI rated 1306 01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:21.720 Scientology offices in nineteen seventy seven and recovered documents relating 1307 01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:25.199 to the operation. And they really tried to fuck her 1308 01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:26.560 life in every way. 1309 01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:29.359 Every single way. So she I mean when she went 1310 01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:32.479 to the trial, she went to the attorney's office. Excuse me, 1311 01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:36.800 she failed a polygraph test, but passed a truth serum test. 1312 01:10:37.439 --> 01:10:39.399 This was back in the seventies. Or they would dope 1313 01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:41.920 you up with some truth serum to see if you'd 1314 01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:43.800 really talk you, see what I mean. 1315 01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:46.479 I didn't even beec I never knew that truth serum 1316 01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:47.880 was like a real thing. I thought that was a 1317 01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:48.560 fictional thing. 1318 01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:52.199 Oh no, no, it's real. It's been real since the sixties. 1319 01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:54.439 I wonder how that went, arguably the fifties. 1320 01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:57.319 Why do you only speak truths whenever you're injected with that? 1321 01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:00.359 It's not that you speak truths, it's more like, uh, 1322 01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:03.960 I've done a fair amount of research into this, and 1323 01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.039 it's not like it guaranteed you're telling the truth. It 1324 01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:09.680 removes the part of your brain that's gonna make you 1325 01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:12.560 stop yourself from saying something you shouldn't think about, Like 1326 01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:16.000 when you're super drunk. Okay, you're super drunk, you're just 1327 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.079 gonna say whatever the fuck's on your mind, you know 1328 01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:20.319 what I mean. It's like that makes you more agreeable, 1329 01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:22.840 It makes you it lowers your inhibitions in a way. 1330 01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:26.000 Truth serum is a little more direct. It's not gonna 1331 01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:28.640 make you feel drunk. You're gonna feel groggy and like 1332 01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:31.760 out of it, but you're gonna pretty much answer whatever 1333 01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:33.880 has asked to you to the best of your abilities. 1334 01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:35.640 That's why it's not a necessary it's not a good 1335 01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:38.840 thing to use in court. Like if you say, I 1336 01:11:38.840 --> 01:11:40.880 saw a crime being committed and you wanted to go 1337 01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:43.920 talk to the police about it or whatever, and he 1338 01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:46.119 gave the gave you truth serum to make sure you're 1339 01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:49.760 not lying to them if you tell them that you 1340 01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:53.359 know for sure this guy was six' five and he 1341 01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:55.800 was a he was a black, guy, okay and that's 1342 01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:58.319 you're telling the truth based off of what you. Saw, 1343 01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:02.159 well in, reaction he was like six' three and was 1344 01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:05.560 wearing super tall boots and he. Wasn't black he Was 1345 01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:09.039 like armenian had a really really really really. Dark tan 1346 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.760 so it's not like you lied. To them you told 1347 01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:13.640 them the truth to the best of. Your knowledge but 1348 01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:15.920 that's not a. Guaranteed truth so it's not something that 1349 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:17.279 they've used in courts in quite. 1350 01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:21.079 Some, time yeah it's their perspective of what really happened. 1351 01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:26.079 Exactly exactly but it does make you answer, Extremely honestly 1352 01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:26.800 i'll say. 1353 01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.600 That much so then There was Operation, freak out it 1354 01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.920 says the geo's Harassment of cooper continued into nineteen. Seventy 1355 01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:36.119 four her father's office received copies of pages from the 1356 01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:39.159 diary she had kept as a teenager and still had in. 1357 01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:42.520 Her possession in early nineteen, SEVENTY five goo agents broke 1358 01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:46.000 into the Office of cooper's college psychiatrists and stole. Her records, 1359 01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:48.560 my god they are going to stupid. 1360 01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:52.520 Lengths here, oh yes, oh yes we're talking all the. 1361 01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:55.880 Way in later, That year cooper began receiving copies of 1362 01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:58.520 her medical records in the mail from. Anonymous senders the 1363 01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:01.720 church compiled a detailed and a report on her. That 1364 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:05.359 Year L ron hubbard was reportedly Obsessed. With cooper he 1365 01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:08.159 thought that she was working for every group he could 1366 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:11.840 imagine that Was, against Scientology Said, bill Franks a scientology 1367 01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:14.960 member tasked with the DISMANTLING the goo after its leaders. 1368 01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:18.399 Were imprisoned he just thought that she Was. The antichrist, 1369 01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:20.479 my god so. 1370 01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:23.159 He doesn't Believe in jesus Or, the bible but she's Obviously. 1371 01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:26.720 The antichrist keep, in mind she's. A reporter she was writing, 1372 01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:29.520 an article and then because they came, after her she 1373 01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:32.199 decided to turn that article into. A book that was 1374 01:13:32.319 --> 01:13:35.520 all of her involvement. With it But l ron was 1375 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.640 so obsessed that he sent all of his spies after 1376 01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:39.560 this one lady. 1377 01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:42.960 In particular on one occasion in nineteen, Seventy five hubbard 1378 01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:49.279 was overheard referring to her as That Bitch Paul. Atte, cooper, okay. 1379 01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:52.199 Yeah like name dropping. Her themselves so it's like it's 1380 01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:53.760 not even a question of who they were. 1381 01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:56.880 After here then in nineteen, Seventy six hubbard and his 1382 01:13:56.920 --> 01:14:00.000 operatives AND, the geo frustrated by their failure To Sign, 1383 01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:03.479 alen's cooper developed an ambitious new campaign to, discredit Her 1384 01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:07.560 Dubbed Operation. Freak out its goal was To have cooper 1385 01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:11.720 incarcerated in a mental institution, or jail or at least 1386 01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:15.199 to hit her so hard that she drops. Her attacks 1387 01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:21.239 the plan included staging multiple tightly coordinated incidents, involving impostors, 1388 01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:24.279 false reports and. Planet items central to the plot was 1389 01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:27.920 another series of bomb, threat letters one full of vitriol 1390 01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:31.159 concerning the Treatment, of israel was to be delivered To an. 1391 01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:34.720 Arab embassy another would be addressed To the Secretary Of State. 1392 01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:39.640 Henry kissinger the new campaign included another scheme To get 1393 01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:43.960 cooper's fingerprinted on a piece. Of paper cooper suspected such 1394 01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:47.039 an attempt when a stranger approached her in a bar 1395 01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:49.560 with a clipboard around the, same time she learned that 1396 01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:53.479 someone impersonating her had made phone calls. To friends in, 1397 01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:57.159 The End operation freakout was, never implemented at least. Not 1398 01:14:57.279 --> 01:15:00.399 fully cooper may have complicated the plan by moving to 1399 01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:04.119 la to assist her defense In a Church of. Scientology 1400 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:09.319 lawsuit there an affidavit by a former scientologist alleges that 1401 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.800 in nineteen seventy seven the church was plotting To. Assassinate, 1402 01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:19.279 cooper however no other source, corroborates this despite voluminous geodocumentation 1403 01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:20.960 about the attempts to ruin her life. 1404 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:24.279 And, reputation okay so we don't have to go deep 1405 01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:27.319 into the lawsuits, on it but basically they filed like 1406 01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:31.840 seventeen lawsuits against her to try to discredit her and make, 1407 01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:36.800 her stop and it never actually. Went anywhere so long. 1408 01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:39.479 Story short then she went into there Was the. Clearwater 1409 01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:42.039 hearings we could read. About that That'sten, From. 1410 01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:46.840 Clearwater, florida okay So the Church of scientology have been 1411 01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:49.159 plotting to take over the City, Of. CLEARWATER florida i 1412 01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:53.199 think That's Where haul cogan, lives actually since nineteen, seventy 1413 01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:55.800 five looking to establish a literal safe harbor For L. 1414 01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:59.000 Ron hubbard the citizen. Repushed back cooper was one of 1415 01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:03.319 the speakers of at An anti scientology Rally in clearwater 1416 01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:07.560 that drew over ten thousand. Local, residents man that's quite. A, crowd. 1417 01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:11.279 Yeah dude the people Outside, of tampa Outside, of clearwater 1418 01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:12.520 wanted nothing to do with. 1419 01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:16.159 These Psychopaths on, june first, nineteen eighty the news magazine 1420 01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:20.800 Program sixty minutes aired a Segment about scientology's Takeover. Of 1421 01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:24.399 clearwater cooper was interviewed for the story and described her 1422 01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:28.640 indictment or deal in the. Same program Scientology Leader david 1423 01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:34.000 gaman what an unfortunate, last name Claimed that cooper's harassment 1424 01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:37.359 was the fault of Over zealous scientologists And that hubbard 1425 01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:40.479 had not been involved, in It despite hubbard's own policy 1426 01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:43.920 letters encouraging. Such Activity on, May, eighth hey that's, my 1427 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:48.600 birthday nineteen, Eighty two cooper testified At the clearwater hearings 1428 01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:51.319 held by city officials over five days to Investigate the. 1429 01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:54.880 Scientology takeover she detailed her history with, the church describing 1430 01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:58.760 a more than a decade, of harassment lawsuits. And threats 1431 01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:02.039 it was an incredible indication to look at these fbiics 1432 01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:04.960 documents and see THAT everything i had Said about scientology 1433 01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:07.880 since nineteen sixty eight, was true and that they had 1434 01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:10.920 turned out to be worse THAN anything i said. Or 1435 01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:12.600 imagined that's a quote, from. 1436 01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:16.000 Her absolutely so it goes into. Our activism we don't 1437 01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:19.199 read any. Of that but now as we read this 1438 01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:22.880 whole situation About Paul, Lett, cooper okay this was one 1439 01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:28.119 lady who wrote one article one time about some Things 1440 01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:32.800 about scientology which led to all. Of this we were 1441 01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:37.479 talking about. True spycraft we're talking about, assassination attempts, discrediting 1442 01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:42.039 her putting people in, her life planting people to be spies, 1443 01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:45.479 on her using her typewriter to type up the. Bomb, 1444 01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:49.960 threats dude like the level of obsession that went. Into 1445 01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:52.920 this so when we hear, about that and we hear 1446 01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:56.560 about what this organization was able to do with, their 1447 01:17:56.600 --> 01:18:01.439 resources now let's learn a little Bit about Operation. 1448 01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:07.960 Snow white in the Annals of, american history few events 1449 01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:12.319 have exposed the vulnerability of government institutions as Starkly as Operation, 1450 01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:16.840 snow white orchestrated By the Church, Of scientology this audacious 1451 01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:19.760 operation stands as a chilling testament to the lengths to 1452 01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:24.039 which organizations will go to safeguard. Their secrets, this operation 1453 01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:27.800 the largest infiltration Of The united states government, in history 1454 01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:32.399 involved Thousands of scientology operatives who infiltrated over one hundred, 1455 01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:37.239 government agencies stealing documents and covering up. Their tracks Operation 1456 01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:40.239 snow white was a brazen attack on the very Heart of. 1457 01:18:40.279 --> 01:18:43.920 American democracy it was a calculated assault on the principles 1458 01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:48.560 of transparency and accountability that underpin a. Free society this 1459 01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:51.359 operation serves as a stark reminder that even in the 1460 01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:55.119 most open and democratic, of nations powerful forces operate in, 1461 01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:58.640 the shadows seeking to manipulate and control information for their. 1462 01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:02.359 Own ends the a and Scale of Operation snow white 1463 01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:03.800 sent shockwaves through. 1464 01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:08.239 THE nation i should apologize now the music is, ridiculously 1465 01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:10.800 loud but this is a little video that shows the 1466 01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:15.000 Keynotes of Operation. Snow white before we get into the articles. 1467 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:19.279 Revealed a dark underbelly of paranoia and ruthlessness Within the Church, 1468 01:19:19.279 --> 01:19:23.399 of scientology an organization that had long presented itself as 1469 01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:28.520 a champion of. Spiritual enlightenment the Revelations of Operation snow 1470 01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:33.319 white shattered, that facade exposing a sinister agenda that sought 1471 01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:37.720 to silence critics and evade scrutiny at. Any cost to 1472 01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:41.600 understand the Motives behind Operation, snow white one must first 1473 01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:44.840 delve into the enigmatic world Of the Church. Of scientology 1474 01:19:45.239 --> 01:19:48.279 founded in nineteen fifty four by science fiction Writer L, 1475 01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:52.239 Ron hubbard scientology offered a path to spiritual freedom through 1476 01:19:52.279 --> 01:19:56.560 a practice known. As, auditing hubbard a charismatic but, controversial 1477 01:19:56.600 --> 01:19:59.840 figure claimed that scientology could cure a wide range of 1478 01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:03.880 mental and, physical ailments attracting a devoted following That included. 1479 01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:08.600 Hollywood celebrities Central to scientology's doctrine is the belief that 1480 01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:13.439 humans are spiritual beings or thetans trapped in a. Physical universe, 1481 01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:18.039 through auditing scientologists believe they can rid themselves of negative 1482 01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:21.800 experiences and achieve a state of spiritual enlightenment known As, 1483 01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:27.800 Clear however scientology's unorthodox beliefs and practices soon drew criticism 1484 01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:31.359 from the medical and, scientific communities leading to accusations of 1485 01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:35.800 mind control and cult. Like Behavior as scientology, gained prominence 1486 01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:40.000 it also attracted the attention of, government agencies Particularly The Internal, 1487 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:44.119 revenue service which began investigating the church's tax. Exempt, status 1488 01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:48.399 hubbard Convinced that scientology was under attack from, hostile forces 1489 01:20:48.720 --> 01:20:51.840 ordered his followers to engage in a campaign of espionage 1490 01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:56.159 and sabotage against its. Perceived enemies, this campaign known As The, 1491 01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:59.920 guardian's office would become the driving Force behind Operation. Snow 1492 01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:06.760 white Operation snow white aimed to erase all negative Records 1493 01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:10.840 about scientology and its founder from. Government files. Facing Scrutiny 1494 01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:14.520 the church believed infiltrating agencies LIKE the IRS and fbi 1495 01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:17.960 was the only way. To survive their operatives posed, as 1496 01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:22.239 employees using burglary and bribery to steal confidential Documents. For 1497 01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:29.399 scientology the ends justified. The means the driving Force behind 1498 01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:33.199 Operation snow white Was The, guardian's office a shadowy organization 1499 01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:36.840 Within the Church of scientology that functioned as its intelligence 1500 01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:41.159 agency and internal. Security force Led By Mary, sue Hubbard 1501 01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:44.720 L ron. Hubbard's Wife The guardian's office was tasked With 1502 01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:49.439 protecting scientology from, its enemies both real. And imagined operating 1503 01:21:49.479 --> 01:21:52.960 with a, fanatical Zeal The guardian's office instilled fear and 1504 01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:57.079 paranoia Within the, church's ranks demanding absolute loyalty from. Its 1505 01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:01.159 Members Under Mary sue, hubbard's Direction The guarduardian's office evolved 1506 01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:05.000 into a, formidable force with operatives stationed around. The globe 1507 01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:09.600 it established elaborate networks of informants, and infiltrators gathering intelligence, on, 1508 01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:14.159 critics journalists and. Government Officials The guardian's office's tactics were, 1509 01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:18.760 often ruthless, employing, intimidation harassment and even violence to silence 1510 01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:22.760 those who dared To. Question Scientology The guardian's office operated 1511 01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:26.439 with a, chilling efficiency justifying its actions as necessary To 1512 01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:30.720 protect scientology from. Its enemies its operatives were indoctrinated to 1513 01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:33.560 believe that they were engaged in a righteous battle against 1514 01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:36.800 evil forces that sought to destroy. The church this sense, 1515 01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:39.680 of mission coupled with the threat of severe punishment, for 1516 01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:43.960 disobedience ensured the loyalty and secrecy Of The guardian's office's 1517 01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:51.000 vast network of spies. And Informants The guardian's office used 1518 01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:56.520 audacious and. Illegal Tactics During Operation, Snow white scientology operatives infiltrated, 1519 01:22:56.520 --> 01:23:01.319 government agencies posing as employees to access. Confidence files they, 1520 01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:04.960 picked locks, disabled alarms and stole documents under the cover. 1521 01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:08.039 Of darkness stolen files were smuggled out and Delivered to. 1522 01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:12.439 Scientology headquarters they even planted false information to mislead investigators and. 1523 01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:15.880 Discredit critics these actions struck at the Heart of, american 1524 01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:17.560 democracy eroding trust. 1525 01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:22.680 In, Government okay, so THAT like, i said overview of. 1526 01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:26.359 It all so now let's talk. About this this is 1527 01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:29.680 an article as a matter of fact from an education 1528 01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:34.920 OF source cmu education the strange links between the Cos 1529 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:39.239 the Church, of scientology AND the irs agreement In The snow. 1530 01:23:39.239 --> 01:23:43.479 White Program Operation snow white was a let me. Move 1531 01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:45.920 this that's kind of small. Writing there it says was 1532 01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:50.319 a systemic or systematic attempt By the Church of scientology 1533 01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:54.000 to infiltrate and steal classified Files on scientology from governments 1534 01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:56.560 all over. The world its exposure BY the fbi in 1535 01:23:56.640 --> 01:23:59.439 nineteen seventy seven led to the arrest and imprisonment of 1536 01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:02.880 the senior leadership Of the church's, intelligence Agency The guardian's 1537 01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:07.359 office In The united States. And canada the program consisted 1538 01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:11.680 of a number of sub Programs Of Snow White operating targets. 1539 01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:16.760 Or swats oh, that's funny each with a different, code 1540 01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:22.199 name aimed at targets in particular countries or internal organizations or. International, 1541 01:24:22.279 --> 01:24:25.079 organizations rather the original aim of the program was to 1542 01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:28.439 expose and legally expunge all false and secret files of 1543 01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:32.239 the nations of operating areas and TO, enable Otc the 1544 01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:37.319 panamanian registered front organization For The, sea Org, the Apollo 1545 01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:40.479 The sea, org flagship And L ron hubbard himself to 1546 01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:44.600 Frequent all western nations without. The, threat crucially the word 1547 01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:47.279 legally was later removed to enable this goal to be 1548 01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:52.039 met through clandestine and. Illegal Operations, damn. 1549 01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:55.600 Yeah they had a. C fleet they had, three ships 1550 01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:58.560 so they sent all their spies to get all of 1551 01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:01.399 the paperwork and all of the documents that even made 1552 01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:04.720 scientology not. Look good and then they were just going to, 1553 01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:06.199 take them put them on, the boats and they were 1554 01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:07.960 never going to be. Seen again so. 1555 01:25:07.880 --> 01:25:10.600 Then it Says snow. White lives in nineteen, eighty nine 1556 01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:12.920 a letter came to light from a member Of the 1557 01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:16.520 Office Of, special affairs the body which Replaced The guardian's 1558 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:20.199 office in the early. Nineteen Eighties elaine siegel described herself 1559 01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:23.119 in the Letter As Snow white program's chief In the 1560 01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.600 Office Of, Special Affairs, united states and went on to 1561 01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:29.399 describe her functions and those Of The Snow. WHITE unit 1562 01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:31.800 a copy was sent TO. The irs it had been 1563 01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:34.319 one of the bodies targeted By The snow white conspiracy 1564 01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:38.479 in the, nineteen seventies which queried scientologies claimed that The 1565 01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:42.640 snow white program is not being. Executed today this was the. Church's, 1566 01:25:42.680 --> 01:25:46.159 response initially it must be stated that the documenting question 1567 01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:48.399 was stolen from the church offices by an individual who 1568 01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:52.039 had infiltrated the church at the behest Of The Cult. 1569 01:25:52.199 --> 01:25:55.640 Awareness network it was then passed on TO the irs 1570 01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:59.600 BY the cn infiltrator. VIA can i don't? Know? It 1571 01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:00.119 can WHAT? 1572 01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:02.239 Is camp A Cult? Awareness? Network oh? 1573 01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:05.920 Got jam the apparent discrepancy to WHICH the irs refers 1574 01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:10.520 seemingly arises from from use of the word programs and 1575 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:13.079 a post title that includes the word, snow white viewed 1576 01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:17.359 against the statement on, page ten dash five of our 1577 01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:20.760 response to your second series of questions that The Snow 1578 01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:24.000 white program is not being. Executed today, that's there. 1579 01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:26.520 But they're not denying that it was executed at. One 1580 01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:29.319 point they're just saying it's not currently, in operation. 1581 01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:31.840 Right, right yeah we might have we might have done 1582 01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:33.279 that in, the past but we ain't about that. No 1583 01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:38.600 more we, you know we've we've overcome. These obstacles the 1584 01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:41.279 operation was going down in. The seventies this is an. Eighty, 1585 01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:43.960 nine like it's not like this was like, you know 1586 01:26:44.039 --> 01:26:46.319 oh that was in the. Eighteen, hundreds bro. 1587 01:26:46.399 --> 01:26:48.479 It's not like, That, now, like no this was a. 1588 01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:52.399 Decade later so why have a program's chief if she 1589 01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:55.399 has no programs? To supervise, it says there is. No 1590 01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:58.640 inconsistency the same page also states that the term snow 1591 01:26:58.680 --> 01:27:02.119 white became synonymous with the activity of legally locating core 1592 01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:05.640 and correcting false reports on. The church the church vigorously 1593 01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:09.920 pursues these objectives through the use Of the Freedom Of 1594 01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:14.199 information act and through direct negotiation with government agencies intended 1595 01:27:14.239 --> 01:27:17.920 to persuade them at minimum that if expungent of false 1596 01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:22.159 reports is, not feasible corrective reports should. Be filed so 1597 01:27:22.199 --> 01:27:24.439 that Was the this is the answers on behalf. OF 1598 01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:25.760 scientology i believe. 1599 01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:27.960 They're not saying they were stealing, the documents even though 1600 01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:30.760 we can't find any of. Them today they're saying they were, 1601 01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:34.399 correcting them. That's all that's why they had thousands of 1602 01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:39.279 infiltrators through like thirty some odd three. Letter agencies it 1603 01:27:39.359 --> 01:27:42.119 was for. Correction purposes right. 1604 01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:45.000 On its, own Figures the church has obtained millions of 1605 01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:47.880 pages of DOCUMENTS from us federal and state authorities through 1606 01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:51.720 the USE. Of foya, this is of course. Entirely legitimate 1607 01:27:52.199 --> 01:27:56.159 so the answer from the scientology, it says The Original 1608 01:27:56.159 --> 01:28:01.159 snow white program Provided as exhibit eleven TEN dash a 1609 01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:05.000 or IS THAT ii i don't know was written specifically 1610 01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:08.479 to address problems which existed in nineteen seventy three with RESPECT, 1611 01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:12.439 to Otc, the apollo And. Mister hubbard Because The United 1612 01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:15.520 states department and other government agencies had engaged in the 1613 01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:19.199 circulation of, false reports free access To various western ports 1614 01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:22.640 and nations had been. Severely Curtailed the apollo was sold 1615 01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:25.960 in nineteen, SEVENTY five otc became inactive at, the time 1616 01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:28.920 And mister hubbard passed away in nineteen. Eighty, six clearly 1617 01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:32.039 The Original snow white program became obsolete within a couple 1618 01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:34.920 of years of, its creation and is no longer. In effect, 1619 01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:39.600 in Fact the apollo no. Longer exists once converted by 1620 01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:42.560 its new ownership to a Restaurant, in texas it was 1621 01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:46.720 involved in a train coalition and in dry dock was cut. 1622 01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:49.800 Into scrap so there was No way apollo Or the 1623 01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:52.960 apollo will Be frequenting western or. 1624 01:28:53.079 --> 01:28:56.680 Any ports so, real quick you're telling me that After 1625 01:28:56.840 --> 01:29:00.439 l ron died, his Flagship the apollo was in port 1626 01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:05.600 and suffered a collision with a. Fucking train that just. 1627 01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:08.720 Got said so, all right then that doesn't sound like 1628 01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:10.800 there's a little bit of some conspiracy behind that, One 1629 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:13.079 either but, all right let's. 1630 01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:16.680 Keep going why in that Case Did elaine segell reiterate 1631 01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:19.159 the ideal scene Of The snow white program, in quotes 1632 01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:22.439 all false and secret files of the nations of operating 1633 01:29:22.479 --> 01:29:26.760 areas brought to you and, legally EXPUNGED, And otc apollo 1634 01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:30.079 and L r h free to Frequent all western poorts 1635 01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:33.239 and nations, without threat and all required ports open. And 1636 01:29:33.279 --> 01:29:39.560 free if this goal is. Uh obsolescent if this goal, 1637 01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:42.640 is obsolescent then why is it still cited as the? 1638 01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:46.439 Ideal scene this rather obvious point of logic or illogic 1639 01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:50.399 went by default when the irs assessors were ordered by 1640 01:29:50.399 --> 01:29:53.840 their superiors to desist from pursuing substantive issues such. 1641 01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:54.199 As this. 1642 01:29:55.680 --> 01:30:00.720 Their, answer, says however obsolescence of the actual program did 1643 01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:04.279 not Invalidate mister hubbard's observation that when governmental and police 1644 01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:07.520 agencies are allowed to accumulate false information in their files 1645 01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:11.239 and disseminate it to, other agencies, they then, in quotes 1646 01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:14.600 tend to act on the file, without presence without the 1647 01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:17.680 presence of the real scene data which is factually good 1648 01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:21.600 but which is, then ignored and an ongoing effort to 1649 01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:25.359 practice the scientology religion free from the interference of misinformed, 1650 01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:28.479 government agencies the church continues to pursue the snow white 1651 01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:31.640 objectives with the name with the legal means at. Its 1652 01:30:31.640 --> 01:30:35.119 disposal only when the church is free from governmental harassment 1653 01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:39.920 and its order and is ordered its rights will Will, 1654 01:30:40.039 --> 01:30:44.800 need wait that doesn't make. Any sense, Is, Ordered oh, 1655 01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:49.079 i'm sorry is accorded, its rights will the need for 1656 01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:49.640 snow white? 1657 01:30:49.640 --> 01:30:55.720 Activities, vanished okay so they're saying that one day it will, 1658 01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:58.479 go away but not, right now once it's free from. 1659 01:30:58.520 --> 01:31:01.359 Government harassment even though they said just a little bit 1660 01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:04.560 ago that it, Wasn't real it, wasn't operating. All. 1661 01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:09.640 Right, yeah yeah they're definitely trying to skate around the 1662 01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:13.319 truth here. For. Sure yeah so the later sentence is the. 1663 01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:18.960 Key one governmental Harassment to scientology means any adverse governmental 1664 01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:23.600 intervention Within the, church's affairs be it, over taxation, working 1665 01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:26.600 conditions or any other area within the. Government's Competence the 1666 01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:29.399 church will only accept that it has been accorded its 1667 01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:32.479 rights when it's achieved goals laid down in nineteen sixty. 1668 01:31:32.479 --> 01:31:35.680 By L ron hubbard and a policy directive which is 1669 01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:38.880 still in force and underlies much Of the church's strategy 1670 01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:43.840 towards its relations. With society their, answer says bring the 1671 01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:47.359 government and hostile philosophies or societies into a state of 1672 01:31:47.359 --> 01:31:50.319 complete compliance with the Goals. Of scientology this is done 1673 01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:53.560 by high level ability to, control and in, its absence 1674 01:31:53.600 --> 01:32:00.319 by low level ability to overwhelm introvert. Such agencies such control. 1675 01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:03.720 Such agencies scientology is the only Game on earth where. 1676 01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:07.159 Everybody wins there is no overt sin in bringing. 1677 01:32:07.199 --> 01:32:11.239 Good, order yeah that's. 1678 01:32:11.279 --> 01:32:13.840 Those people that's the people that think that they know 1679 01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:17.800 what's best. For everybody, Oh, Yeah god like they just 1680 01:32:17.880 --> 01:32:20.840 believe that they have been given the divine right to 1681 01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:23.840 know what is best for everybody, out there and either 1682 01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:25.760 you comply or we come after. 1683 01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:29.720 You because their Profet el ron said so the sci 1684 01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:32.960 fi writer and, cult, Leader right so like that's that's 1685 01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:36.600 just what. It, is now this Is A project hunter 1686 01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:38.840 as a matter, of fact talking About Snow white and 1687 01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:40.000 this is actually FROM the. 1688 01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:44.479 Irs document, All right so IT'S the irs And snow. 1689 01:32:44.479 --> 01:32:46.680 White PROGRAM the irs was one of the key targets 1690 01:32:46.680 --> 01:32:48.640 Of The Snow white program in the, nineteen Seventies when 1691 01:32:48.680 --> 01:32:53.560 scientology agents, systematically, infiltrated bugged and burgled. 1692 01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:58.239 The service now can you imagine can you imagine right 1693 01:32:58.279 --> 01:33:02.760 now if some let's just for trying to be, kind 1694 01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:07.079 here some new religious group that just popped up a, 1695 01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:12.159 decade ago infiltrated and stole documents FROM the irs, right 1696 01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:14.600 now can you imagine what would happen? 1697 01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:19.000 To, THEM yeah i mean that would be seen almost 1698 01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:20.920 as like terroristic in. A, sense. 1699 01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:23.439 Indeed it WOULD be i, would say arguably trees. In 1700 01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:25.800 This now i'm not Like saying I'M. PRO irs i never. 1701 01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:29.039 Will be but at the, same time like you're gonna 1702 01:33:29.079 --> 01:33:31.640 do what? With What bro and you're gonna get away. 1703 01:33:31.680 --> 01:33:34.239 With, IT yeah i definitely WANT the irs invaded and 1704 01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:39.560 dismantled by by all. Means necessary but by what groups. 1705 01:33:39.880 --> 01:33:43.119 But this group and by. The, public no they only 1706 01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:46.199 did it for themselves because all the PaperWorks showing how 1707 01:33:46.279 --> 01:33:49.479 much taxes they hadn't paid were housed AT the, Irs 1708 01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:52.079 building so they sent in their spies to just kind 1709 01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:55.079 of misplaced. Those, files oops lost. 1710 01:33:55.119 --> 01:33:58.399 Those yep SO the irs AND other us federal and 1711 01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:02.439 state agencies were targeted under The snow White Subprogram. Project 1712 01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:05.840 hunter the goal and operating Targets A project hunter were 1713 01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:08.800 stated as follows in the Original snow white plan written. 1714 01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:11.840 By L ron hubbard himself on, four twenty nineteen. 1715 01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:17.560 Seventy three again this is his actual documentation. 1716 01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:21.560 Brow, All, right uh the reference on this project is. 1717 01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:26.079 Record correction according To the paris, police REPORTS the us 1718 01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:32.199 is falsely Reported. On alron this means That The TREASURY 1719 01:34:32.239 --> 01:34:36.279 department us Liaison with interpol and POSSIBLY the fbi have 1720 01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:42.239 and have forwarded false reports to many. Other, countries also 1721 01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:45.880 as this area will become a subject of, un complaint 1722 01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:49.279 all recourse must. Be exhausted any action taken against this 1723 01:34:49.399 --> 01:34:52.159 area must also be very polite and not abusive per. 1724 01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:57.680 Un requirements this area IS the gootv liaison for legal 1725 01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:00.920 but no action may be taken without the agreement OF. 1726 01:35:01.039 --> 01:35:06.159 THE gous a suggested program follows a existing attorneys may 1727 01:35:06.159 --> 01:35:08.640 be used or new ones Retained, in washington D. C 1728 01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:12.399 b according To The first amendment OF The, us constitution 1729 01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:15.079 the right of petition may not. Be, denied therefore it 1730 01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:18.079 is suggested That The Treasury interpol unit AND the fbi 1731 01:35:18.239 --> 01:35:24.439 be separately petitioned to correct their records Are L ron 1732 01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:28.560 hubbard and to see that anyone to whom they have 1733 01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:32.479 reported overseas be given a. RECORD correction a minimum of 1734 01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:36.199 evidence should be presented see WHEN the fbi fails. To 1735 01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:39.079 act if it does not act to correct, the record 1736 01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:42.039 the suit should be filed to, correct it at which 1737 01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:46.760 time much fuller evidence as per record correction may be 1738 01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:50.159 presented D when treasury fails. To act if it does, 1739 01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:51.800 not act it should be subjected. 1740 01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:51.920 TO. 1741 01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:57.359 Suit e the damage resulting from these false reports, are 1742 01:35:57.359 --> 01:36:02.239 incredible resulting in immigration and. Other trouble f part of 1743 01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:06.079 any settlement must include the advising you OF interior, us 1744 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:09.319 agencies states and cities that false reports have been given 1745 01:36:09.359 --> 01:36:13.840 to GIVEN on lrh PART of g part of any 1746 01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:17.079 settlement must include advising all countries and the targets that 1747 01:36:17.159 --> 01:36:19.560 the reports were sent reports sent. 1748 01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:19.760 WERE. 1749 01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:25.279 False h documents attesting the falsity of such reports must 1750 01:36:25.319 --> 01:36:28.640 be then made available ON, the goo so the government 1751 01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:32.600 statement can be circulated BY. The GOO and i all 1752 01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:34.640 records must be carefully preserved for. 1753 01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:39.520 Un, use okay so we got a little, list here 1754 01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:41.000 or actually we could read this part, right here and 1755 01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:43.119 then we'll talk about the objectives and if they were achieved. 1756 01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:47.640 Or Not project hunter soon descended into wholesale illegality with 1757 01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:50.560 the full Approval Of Mary, sue hubbard convicted of conspiracy 1758 01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:52.960 in nineteen seventy nine, and jailed and almost certainly Of 1759 01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:57.199 L ron. Hubbard himself he was named as an unindicted, 1760 01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:01.479 co conspirator but prosecutors couldn't put together a, strong case 1761 01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:04.600 strong enough case to try him for his role in. The, 1762 01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:07.760 affair however despite the demise Of The guardian's office and 1763 01:37:07.800 --> 01:37:10.880 conviction Of The snow, white Conspirators The snow white program, 1764 01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:13.800 itself continued And the church admitted in its reply to 1765 01:37:13.840 --> 01:37:17.640 the IRS's queries it is more than Likely That project 1766 01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:22.760 hunter or derivative thereof, Also continued it's interesting To Compare 1767 01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:26.800 project hunters objectives to the secret Agreement which scientology reach 1768 01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:29.880 WITH the irs in nineteen. Ninety three did the terms 1769 01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:33.720 of the agreement fulfill the goals laid down back in nineteen? 1770 01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:37.079 Seventy, Three okay so now we got this little list 1771 01:37:37.119 --> 01:37:40.079 here of some of. These objectives right number ONE or 1772 01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:43.199 a existing attorneys may be used or Retained FROM. Washington 1773 01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:44.680 dc is? 1774 01:37:44.720 --> 01:37:44.840 It? 1775 01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:49.920 Achieved unknown but probably yes many? Years, ago okay b 1776 01:37:50.039 --> 01:37:52.000 according To The first amendment OF The, us constitution the 1777 01:37:52.039 --> 01:37:56.000 right petition all that was it achieved partly achieved through 1778 01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:59.000 the USE of foya To, Obtain treasury INTERPOL and. Fbi 1779 01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:02.039 files the agency are not known to have sent record 1780 01:38:02.079 --> 01:38:07.000 corrections to. Overseas bodies so kind, of achieved but not 1781 01:38:07.039 --> 01:38:10.439 necessarily see WHEN the fbi fails. To act if it 1782 01:38:10.479 --> 01:38:12.560 does not act to correct, the record a suit should. 1783 01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:13.840 Be filed was? 1784 01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:13.920 It? 1785 01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:20.479 Achieved no records still contain MUCH in fata quote unquote 1786 01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:24.279 and can be obtained THROUGH a foi request d When 1787 01:38:24.279 --> 01:38:26.720 the treasury fails. To act if it does, not act 1788 01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:30.640 it should be subject. To suit was? As? Achieved unknown 1789 01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:33.479 but as OF, the fbi unlikely to have. BEEN achieved 1790 01:38:33.479 --> 01:38:39.239 i don't remember ever Hearing The scientology church Suing The, 1791 01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:42.560 treasury DEPARTMENT and i can't find anything on record of. 1792 01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:46.560 That either, so no that was. Not achieved long, story 1793 01:38:46.600 --> 01:38:50.079 short most of these were. Not, Achieved right he set out, 1794 01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:52.399 these goals and all that happened from it was his 1795 01:38:52.479 --> 01:38:56.000 wife was arrested for conspiracy and he took off To 1796 01:38:56.039 --> 01:38:59.840 Air national waters and they couldn't. Find them that's essentially 1797 01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:03.640 what this shook out. To be now we got more 1798 01:39:03.720 --> 01:39:05.479 articles to read, about it but this was kind of 1799 01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:10.319 the the overview. Of, that now this, this building This 1800 01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:14.720 Blue scientology church was at one Time a masonic temple 1801 01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:20.159 Or A masonic Order Of Tall Cedars hospital, children's, Hospital 1802 01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:24.239 right mason's are big on. Children's Hospitals The scientology church, 1803 01:39:24.319 --> 01:39:26.479 bought it painted. It blue and now this is the 1804 01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:30.000 this is, their vatican this is. Their mecca dog it looks. 1805 01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:32.159 Like it what a specimen of, A building. 1806 01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:34.680 I, Mean, right Actually if i'm, not mistaken there's a few, 1807 01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:38.439 Pictures here so there's one. Of them, come, on now 1808 01:39:38.479 --> 01:39:41.479 where's these? Picture going? Lowd ad this is in the past. 1809 01:39:41.479 --> 01:39:44.159 Seven years the church has poured out at least forty 1810 01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:48.199 five million into The Former Gilman Hot. Springs resort in 1811 01:39:48.279 --> 01:39:51.479 the forgotten or in, the foreground is the eighteen point 1812 01:39:51.520 --> 01:39:54.359 five million dollar management building that includes a wing of 1813 01:39:54.359 --> 01:39:59.119 offices for Church Leader, David, miscarriage. Miskavich whatever so that's 1814 01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:04.479 Their Their hot. Springs. OFFICE right a close View, of 1815 01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:08.199 bondview a nine point four million dollar MANSION that x 1816 01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:12.880 members say was constructed for the expected return of the 1817 01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:16.720 late church Founder L. Ron hubbard church officials say the 1818 01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:20.279 mansion is simply a museum To commemorate hubbard's life and 1819 01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:23.680 house most of. His possessions so if he ever did 1820 01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:25.760 come back TO, the us this was where he was supposed, 1821 01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:29.720 to live but. He didn't receptionist this is her, right 1822 01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:35.119 Here receptionist Charlotte. HEIDIT height i don't Know At Golden. 1823 01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:38.840 Era Productions Golden air productions is the media conglomerate that 1824 01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:43.039 is Owned. By scientology the artwork behind Her depicts scientology's 1825 01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:47.920 bridge to, total Freedom the church's path, to enlightenment just 1826 01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:51.119 a stairway to. The sun, you know as one would 1827 01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:57.399 do this one is these are golden printed materials that 1828 01:40:57.439 --> 01:40:58.800 you would like put on a book or a post 1829 01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:02.239 or Something Inside Golden, air productions which is another one of. 1830 01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:06.399 Their subsidiaries staffer's produced nearly all the printed materials for. 1831 01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:10.079 The church here a foil is pressed onto a lecture 1832 01:41:10.119 --> 01:41:14.399 binder cover that will be used FOR a cd One 1833 01:41:14.399 --> 01:41:19.439 of hubbard's speeches that has been Translated. Into, german yeah 1834 01:41:20.199 --> 01:41:23.039 gotta have that. International flex and this is one of, 1835 01:41:23.039 --> 01:41:25.359 those machines one of these DIANETICS machines i was telling. 1836 01:41:25.399 --> 01:41:26.960 You ABOUT when i was twelve, YEARS old i saw. 1837 01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:32.800 This thing hubbard invented quote unquote INVENTED the e meter 1838 01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:35.880 as a device that could measure the spiritual clarity of. 1839 01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:39.319 His followers by, the way you could make one of 1840 01:41:39.319 --> 01:41:43.520 these yourself with probably breaking apart one of your kid's 1841 01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:46.520 toys that has a push button and taping some shit 1842 01:41:46.600 --> 01:41:50.000 up for about, Five dollars like that's. Real, shit now 1843 01:41:50.319 --> 01:41:52.319 some of these can sell for up to five, Thousand 1844 01:41:52.359 --> 01:41:54.319 dollars but you can Get on eBay right now and 1845 01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:57.359 find a used one for like one. Hundred DOLLARS so, 1846 01:41:57.560 --> 01:41:59.840 i mean take that for what. You want but now. 1847 01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:02.119 Let's see it began with a. Fairy tale by, the 1848 01:42:02.119 --> 01:42:04.720 way the article this is From The Los, angeles times 1849 01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:07.600 which is Where the Church of scientology does. Call home 1850 01:42:08.119 --> 01:42:11.520 and this was Actually from june, twenty fourth nineteen ninety 1851 01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:14.880 so this is before they even got their tax free 1852 01:42:14.880 --> 01:42:18.439 status back in action in, ninety three so they were 1853 01:42:18.479 --> 01:42:21.199 already talking that. Shit Here and Operation snow white was 1854 01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:21.960 known about in, the. 1855 01:42:22.039 --> 01:42:25.680 Nineties dude it began with the title of a. Fairy 1856 01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:30.239 Tale snow white then was the benign code Named name 1857 01:42:30.359 --> 01:42:36.119 Scientology Founder eleron hubbard gave to an ominous plan that 1858 01:42:36.159 --> 01:42:39.560 would envelop his church and scandal and send its upper echelon, 1859 01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:42.640 to prison a plan rooted in ever deepening fears. And 1860 01:42:42.680 --> 01:42:45.439 Suspicions snow white began in nineteen seventy three as an 1861 01:42:45.439 --> 01:42:49.159 Effort by Scientology through freedom of information proceedings to purge 1862 01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:52.159 government files Of what hubbard thought was false information being 1863 01:42:52.199 --> 01:42:55.479 circulated worldwide to discredit him and. The church but the 1864 01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:59.239 operation soon mushroomed into a massive criminal conspiracy executed By 1865 01:42:59.239 --> 01:43:03.319 the church's legal and, investigative Arm The. Guardian office under 1866 01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:06.720 the Direction of, Hubbard's Wife. Mary Sue The guardian office 1867 01:43:06.760 --> 01:43:10.840 hatch one scheme after another to discredit And unnerve scientology's 1868 01:43:10.840 --> 01:43:13.960 foes across. The Country guardian office members were trained to 1869 01:43:14.039 --> 01:43:17.039 lie or in, their words to outflow. False, data effectively 1870 01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:20.520 they compiled enemy lists and subjected those on the list 1871 01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:22.039 to smear campaigns and dirty. 1872 01:43:22.079 --> 01:43:25.039 Tricks, there boh can you imagine that they it's, Not 1873 01:43:25.239 --> 01:43:28.840 lying it is an outflow of false data that we are. 1874 01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:32.600 Doing effectively now does that sound? You ever since get 1875 01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:35.800 them To The, greek yeah remember that Part Where jonah 1876 01:43:35.840 --> 01:43:37.720 hill was Talking. To diddy he, was like so you 1877 01:43:37.720 --> 01:43:39.039 want me to lie. To him, it's, Like, no no we. 1878 01:43:39.079 --> 01:43:42.199 Don't lie we don't. Never lie we just believe in. Unfalse, 1879 01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:46.319 truths yeah tell me that's not what this sounds. 1880 01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:50.840 Like, here yeah sounds. Like it so their targets were in, 1881 01:43:50.880 --> 01:43:53.960 the government, the press the, medical profession wherever a potential. 1882 01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:57.000 Threats Surface The guardian office save the worst For Author 1883 01:43:57.039 --> 01:43:59.760 paula Cooper Of New, york city who's scathing nineteen seventy 1884 01:43:59.800 --> 01:44:02.319 Two Book the Scandal of scientology pushed her to the 1885 01:44:02.319 --> 01:44:05.520 top of the church's roster. Of enemies among, Other things 1886 01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:08.439 cooper was framed on criminal Charges By guardian office members 1887 01:44:08.479 --> 01:44:13.479 who Obtained stationary she had touched stationary that she had 1888 01:44:13.479 --> 01:44:16.000 touched and then used it to forge bomb threats to 1889 01:44:16.039 --> 01:44:18.640 the church in. Her name you're Like the nazis Or 1890 01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:22.119 the Arabs. Or arabs rather i'll, Bomb you i'll, kill 1891 01:44:22.159 --> 01:44:25.000 you warned one of the. Rambling letters the church reported 1892 01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:27.760 the threat TO the fbi and directed its Agents, to 1893 01:44:27.800 --> 01:44:30.720 cooper whose fingerprints matched those on. The letter cooper was 1894 01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:33.520 indicted by a grand jury not only for the bomb 1895 01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:36.399 threats but for lying under oath about. Her innocence two, 1896 01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:40.640 years later the author's reputation In psych psyche. In tatters 1897 01:44:40.960 --> 01:44:44.239 prosecutors dismissed the charges after she had spent nearly twenty 1898 01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:46.760 thousand dollars in legal fees to defend herself and six 1899 01:44:46.800 --> 01:44:50.680 thousand dollars on. Psychiatric treatment and so she thought that 1900 01:44:50.720 --> 01:44:53.159 she was going a little. Crazy, Too bro can you 1901 01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:54.039 imagine two of. 1902 01:44:54.079 --> 01:44:56.159 Your homies you got one of these guys there living 1903 01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:58.319 with you for months at a time because you. Trust 1904 01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:00.600 him come to, find out is there to? Hop spy 1905 01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:04.680 what was that you? Remember that did you ever See 1906 01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:06.279 That johnny Depp movie IT'S Called A. 1907 01:45:06.319 --> 01:45:09.840 SECRET window i Feel like i've heard, of. It dude, 1908 01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.840 awesome book but it's basically about, like psychosis like he 1909 01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:15.880 has like this, alter ego and so this alter ego 1910 01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:18.439 whenever it takes Over In johnny depp's place in, the 1911 01:45:18.439 --> 01:45:21.680 movie he doesn't remember anything that the alter. Ego does 1912 01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:24.600 so he feel like he feels like he's actually like 1913 01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:27.840 being hunted by this character or whatever the, entire movie 1914 01:45:27.840 --> 01:45:29.159 and come to find out it was him. 1915 01:45:29.159 --> 01:45:33.680 ALL along i could. BELIEVE it, i, mean look could 1916 01:45:33.680 --> 01:45:36.720 you just for, two seconds let's appreciate this this woman 1917 01:45:36.880 --> 01:45:39.520 who wrote an article then because it got a little 1918 01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:43.399 extra fire, under it she wrote. A book she cannot 1919 01:45:43.600 --> 01:45:46.920 sign a random petition on the sidewalk because they used 1920 01:45:46.920 --> 01:45:51.079 the fingerprints. From that She can't two friends of hers 1921 01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:53.640 that were always in and out of, her place one 1922 01:45:53.640 --> 01:45:56.079 of them living, with her come to, find out were 1923 01:45:56.119 --> 01:46:00.880 absolutely not like. A hypothetical they. Were Spies, confer right 1924 01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:04.880 her phone lines are. Being tapped she's receiving countless calls 1925 01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:07.920 every day of threats of what they're gonna do to 1926 01:46:07.960 --> 01:46:09.800 her if they ever get their hands and their dicks. On, 1927 01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:14.159 her right she's being discredited. Around town these people are, 1928 01:46:14.199 --> 01:46:18.359 dropping flyers accusing her of. Everything imaginable she's worried she'll 1929 01:46:18.359 --> 01:46:21.319 be able to ever find employment. Again, now also twenty 1930 01:46:21.399 --> 01:46:23.920 thousand dollars in, legal fees so that was in the 1931 01:46:23.960 --> 01:46:27.920 seventies twenty thousand then would be more like eighty thousand 1932 01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:32.560 today at least, at least and then another six thousand on. 1933 01:46:32.640 --> 01:46:35.720 Psychiatric treatment, so, like yo they put this woman through 1934 01:46:35.720 --> 01:46:38.840 hell to make. Her stop but, if anything that just 1935 01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:42.000 shows how guilty. They were because if it was, just, 1936 01:46:42.039 --> 01:46:44.600 bullshit right if it was just oh that's just a 1937 01:46:44.640 --> 01:46:47.680 hater sipping on that, hater ade just saying that, random 1938 01:46:47.680 --> 01:46:50.119 shit we're not gonna pay her, no mind it wouldn't 1939 01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:53.960 have gone. That far that's. My point everything she wrote about. 1940 01:46:54.399 --> 01:46:56.319 Was accurate otherwise they would have just left. 1941 01:46:56.359 --> 01:47:00.119 It alone, well yeah and imagine how vindicated she was 1942 01:47:00.119 --> 01:47:03.159 WHENEVER the fbi went in. And rated, you know like 1943 01:47:04.279 --> 01:47:05.319 that poor woman. 1944 01:47:05.680 --> 01:47:07.640 She got brought to court and she didn't even know. 1945 01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:09.279 What for she thought she was just kind of giving 1946 01:47:09.319 --> 01:47:12.399 a little statement on. The. TRIAL right a friend of 1947 01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:14.920 hers who kind of knew what was, going on gave 1948 01:47:14.960 --> 01:47:17.760 her a list of questions and a list of answers to. 1949 01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:20.359 Give it they asked her these questions and she, WAS 1950 01:47:20.399 --> 01:47:22.600 like i don't, need this there's nothing to lie about 1951 01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:26.159 not guilty or. Anything, like listen if they ask you, 1952 01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:30.359 this question answered, this way here is the list, of 1953 01:47:30.399 --> 01:47:33.199 shit and, she's, Like okay i'll. Bring it but whatever she, 1954 01:47:33.319 --> 01:47:35.960 gets there they start kind of reading off the docket 1955 01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:37.760 of the day and All this she's in. The seat 1956 01:47:38.439 --> 01:47:42.000 on the paper, it SAYS am i the prime suspect of. 1957 01:47:42.039 --> 01:47:47.279 This indictment their, response, was yes yes. You are she didn't. 1958 01:47:47.319 --> 01:47:50.399 Know that she. Was flabbergasted she thought she was going 1959 01:47:50.399 --> 01:47:51.760 in there to give a statement or to just kind 1960 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:54.479 of give a. Witness testimony she had no idea that 1961 01:47:54.520 --> 01:47:57.000 she was the one that was under. The gun the 1962 01:47:57.039 --> 01:47:59.760 next question WAS can i leave and return within A? 1963 01:47:59.800 --> 01:48:03.039 Two hernie, they said yes. You can can you imagine 1964 01:48:03.039 --> 01:48:04.640 if her friend wouldn't have hooked her up with, these 1965 01:48:04.720 --> 01:48:06.720 questions she would have been hung? 1966 01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:11.840 That day, oh, yeah yeah. For sure but it says 1967 01:48:12.039 --> 01:48:15.880 it seemed that no plan against perceived enemies was too ambitious, 1968 01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:20.239 or Daring and washington scientology spies penetrated such high security 1969 01:48:20.239 --> 01:48:23.520 agencies As the Department of justice AND the irs to 1970 01:48:23.640 --> 01:48:26.720 find what they Had on hubbard and. The church in, 1971 01:48:26.840 --> 01:48:30.560 nighttime raids they rifled files and photocopied mountains, of documents 1972 01:48:30.600 --> 01:48:34.319 many of Which the church had unsuccessfully sought Under the 1973 01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:38.520 Freedom Of. Information act the thefts were. Inside Jobs The 1974 01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:41.319 guardian office had planted one agent IN the irs as 1975 01:48:41.359 --> 01:48:44.880 a clerk typist and another In The justice department as 1976 01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:50.239 the personal secretary of AN Assistant us attorney who was 1977 01:48:50.279 --> 01:48:56.039 handling foil lawsuits Filed. By scientology so bold they so 1978 01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:59.640 bold had they become That One guardian office operatives slipped 1979 01:48:59.640 --> 01:49:02.600 INTO an irs conference room and wired a bugging device 1980 01:49:02.640 --> 01:49:06.600 into a wall socket before crucial Meeting on scientology was to. 1981 01:49:06.720 --> 01:49:09.960 Be convened the operative rigged the device so he could 1982 01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:13.920 eavesdrop over HER car's. Fm RADIO the us was losing 1983 01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:16.119 a ward did not even know that it, was fighting 1984 01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:21.359 but that was about. To change so two scientologists USED 1985 01:49:21.399 --> 01:49:24.399 fake irs credentials to gain access to government agencies and 1986 01:49:24.439 --> 01:49:27.680 then photocopy documents related To. The church their conspiracy was 1987 01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:30.159 exposed when one of, the suspects after eleven months on, 1988 01:49:30.199 --> 01:49:33.159 the land became worried about his plight and confessed, to 1989 01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:36.560 authorities PROMPTING the fbi to launch one of the biggest raids. 1990 01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:40.640 In history armed with, power, saws crowbars, and boltcutters one 1991 01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:44.880 hundred and thirty four agents burst Into three scientology LOCATIONS 1992 01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:50.239 in La. And washington they carded off, eavesdropping equipment, burglar 1993 01:49:50.279 --> 01:49:53.800 tools in forty eight thousand documents detailing countless operations against 1994 01:49:53.880 --> 01:49:56.800 enemies in public and. Private life in, The end hubbard's 1995 01:49:56.840 --> 01:49:59.720 wife and the others were found guilty of charges of conspiracy. 1996 01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:03.520 And urgulary the grand Jury named hubbard as an unindicted. 1997 01:50:03.520 --> 01:50:07.840 Co Conspirator The seas guardian office files did not directly 1998 01:50:07.880 --> 01:50:10.239 link him to, the crimes and he professed ignorance. To 1999 01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:15.600 them in a memorandum urging stiff sentences for, the scientologists federal, 2000 01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:20.640 prosecutors wrote the crime committed by these defendants is of 2001 01:50:20.840 --> 01:50:25.800 a breadth and scope previously. Unheard of, no, building, office 2002 01:50:25.840 --> 01:50:28.319 desk or file was safe from their snooping. Or prying 2003 01:50:28.600 --> 01:50:33.159 no individual or organization was free from their despicable. Conspiratorial 2004 01:50:33.199 --> 01:50:36.479 minds the tools of their trade were, miniature transmitters lock 2005 01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:39.720 pick seecret codes, forged credentials and any other device they 2006 01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:43.720 found necessary to carry out their. Conspiratorial schemes the eleven 2007 01:50:43.760 --> 01:50:46.560 defendants were ordered to serve five years in. Federal prison 2008 01:50:46.720 --> 01:50:47.159 all are. 2009 01:50:47.199 --> 01:50:52.439 Now free church leadeers five years for the most successful 2010 01:50:52.640 --> 01:50:58.960 espionage OPERATION on us agencies. In history they just got, Five, years. 2011 01:50:59.359 --> 01:51:03.840 Yeah buddy so church leaders today maintained that this dark 2012 01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:07.960 chapter in their religion's history was the work of renegade, members, 2013 01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:10.520 who yes broke, the law but believe they were justified 2014 01:51:10.560 --> 01:51:13.880 because the government for two decades had harassed And persecuted scientology. 2015 01:51:14.479 --> 01:51:20.279 Rogue members the wife of, your pope the wife and 2016 01:51:20.319 --> 01:51:24.239 the upper echelon Of The, guardian office which was your. 2017 01:51:24.279 --> 01:51:28.239 Secret service they were rogue members that just kind of 2018 01:51:28.239 --> 01:51:31.680 were acting on their. Own accord that's what we're rolling with. 2019 01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:34.359 Right Now and hubbard legitimate, WAS like i didn't know 2020 01:51:34.479 --> 01:51:39.159 they were. Doing that forty eight thousand documents. Were found you. Didn't, know. 2021 01:51:40.840 --> 01:51:48.079 Yeah yeah, So anyhow Boston ATTORNEY. Earl, C Cooley Scientology's 2022 01:51:48.159 --> 01:51:51.279 National trial council said the present church management does not 2023 01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:54.239 condone the criminal activities of The Old. Guardian office he 2024 01:51:54.319 --> 01:51:57.279 said that One of hubbard's most important dictums was to 2025 01:51:57.439 --> 01:52:02.119 maintain friendly relationship relations with the environment and. The public 2026 01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:04.479 the QUESTION that i always have in, My mind, cooley 2027 01:52:04.520 --> 01:52:08.119 said is for is for how long a time is 2028 01:52:08.159 --> 01:52:09.960 the church going to have to continue to pay the 2029 01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:13.199 price for What The guardian. Office, did Unfortunately the church 2030 01:52:13.239 --> 01:52:16.039 continues to be confronted. With it and the ironic thing 2031 01:52:16.319 --> 01:52:19.239 is that people being confronted with it are the people 2032 01:52:19.279 --> 01:52:22.520 who wiped. It out and to the church that is 2033 01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:23.760 a very. Frustrating thing. 2034 01:52:25.399 --> 01:52:28.800 The ironic thing is that the people being confronted, with it, 2035 01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:33.199 the church are the people who wiped. It, out no 2036 01:52:34.319 --> 01:52:38.199 you're the people that enacted. The conspiracy that's why it's being. 2037 01:52:38.239 --> 01:52:42.880 Brought up but, you, KNOW sure i Swear. To god 2038 01:52:42.880 --> 01:52:46.000 people cry victimhood the second things start to turn there there. 2039 01:52:46.079 --> 01:52:52.439 Against them it's. Ridiculous facts so this is a vice 2040 01:52:52.560 --> 01:52:54.359 article as a matter, of fact and some of it 2041 01:52:54.399 --> 01:52:57.239 is a little bit, you know repetitive in, that way 2042 01:52:58.039 --> 01:53:03.359 but there, is tons tons of documents to show what. Had. 2043 01:53:03.399 --> 01:53:06.000 Happened here we could kind of read a little bit about. 2044 01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:11.079 It here let's, see here so scientology going clear, quote 2045 01:53:11.159 --> 01:53:13.279 unquote because that's what it is when you. Achieve enlightenment 2046 01:53:13.279 --> 01:53:16.479 there it's, not enlightenment it's here clear And the church's 2047 01:53:16.520 --> 01:53:20.039 long war with. The irs so this is from, twenty 2048 01:53:20.079 --> 01:53:22.840 fifteen shortly after six a in the Morning of, july 2049 01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:27.399 eighth nineteen, Seventy Seven Special Agent. Elmer lindy lindberg stood 2050 01:53:27.399 --> 01:53:29.640 at the gate in the front of four eight Three 2051 01:53:29.760 --> 01:53:33.279 Three fountain avenue and pushed the. Call button the night 2052 01:53:33.279 --> 01:53:36.199 caretaker Of The los angeles building, came out walked about 2053 01:53:36.199 --> 01:53:39.119 ten feet towards, the gate and. Then stopped he refused 2054 01:53:39.119 --> 01:53:41.880 to come. Any closer, lindy said we are WITH the 2055 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:44.760 fbi and we are here to serve a federal. Search 2056 01:53:44.840 --> 01:53:49.399 warrant the imposing five hundred thousand square foot building that 2057 01:53:49.520 --> 01:53:52.680 once Housed the Cedars Of, lebanon hospitals that's THE one 2058 01:53:52.720 --> 01:53:55.199 i was, talking about have been purchased the year Before 2059 01:53:55.239 --> 01:53:58.479 the Church of scientology for five. Million dollars the church 2060 01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:01.319 had then painted it blue and made it their. International 2061 01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:04.680 Headquarters as limberg and the head of the FBI's Law 2062 01:54:04.720 --> 01:54:07.880 Los Angeles field office later wrote in his official report of. 2063 01:54:07.920 --> 01:54:10.680 The incident it was eventually made available to, the public 2064 01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:13.319 along with thousands of related documents via the. FOY um 2065 01:54:14.439 --> 01:54:17.720 A large german shepherd dog was noticed roaming free inside the. 2066 01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:21.119 Fenced aarium limberg ordered his agents to cut the lock and. 2067 01:54:21.159 --> 01:54:24.199 Move in the dog left. Them alone agents entered the 2068 01:54:24.199 --> 01:54:26.479 building and fanned out to begin. Their search many of 2069 01:54:26.520 --> 01:54:28.720 the offices they needed to enter, were locked and the 2070 01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:33.399 church officials could or either couldn't or wouldn't get the. Agent's, 2071 01:54:33.479 --> 01:54:37.319 keys limberg a seasoned investigator who had Worked With patty 2072 01:54:37.399 --> 01:54:40.960 hirst kidnapping case a few, years before gave church members 2073 01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:44.239 an hour to open. The doors they assured him the 2074 01:54:44.319 --> 01:54:46.920 keys were on. Their way in, the meantime a group 2075 01:54:46.920 --> 01:54:50.960 of forty scientologists showed up with push brooms and milled 2076 01:54:51.079 --> 01:54:53.960 among the agents and started to sweep. The area so 2077 01:54:54.039 --> 01:54:55.840 they already kind of had guys in, the works as 2078 01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:57.319 they didn't know how this was about to, shake out 2079 01:54:57.560 --> 01:55:00.439 but they know That The scientology church need we needed 2080 01:55:00.520 --> 01:55:03.079 some manpower in the area in case things got a little. 2081 01:55:03.119 --> 01:55:05.960 Extra hostile, so yeah we just got forty guys with. 2082 01:55:05.960 --> 01:55:08.399 Push brooms don't worry, about them they're just cleaning the 2083 01:55:08.439 --> 01:55:13.680 same spot for like an. Hour whatever The sac lindberg 2084 01:55:13.800 --> 01:55:17.720 immediately advised somebody whose names redacted and somebody else whose 2085 01:55:17.800 --> 01:55:21.159 name is redacted that the continued operation of the sweepers 2086 01:55:21.159 --> 01:55:24.680 would interfere with, the search And sac LIMBERG ordered. I 2087 01:55:24.720 --> 01:55:28.880 Guess Special agent limberg ordered all but one broom sweeper 2088 01:55:28.880 --> 01:55:32.560 to clear. THE area a few, minutes later numerous individuals, carrying, 2089 01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:36.680 clipboards cameras and tape. Recorders appeared they identified themselves as 2090 01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:39.800 church affiliates, quote unquote and said they were on hand 2091 01:55:39.840 --> 01:55:43.520 to observe and record the. Agent's conduct so all these 2092 01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:46.600 people with brooms that were doing the exact, same thing then, they, 2093 01:55:46.800 --> 01:55:49.640 said no, fuck it go get clipboards and. Tape recorders 2094 01:55:49.640 --> 01:55:51.960 we're gonna. Do it we're gonna document everything they do in. 2095 01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:54.960 Our church it's Like Some agent smith type shit From 2096 01:55:54.960 --> 01:55:56.239 the matrix alle. 2097 01:55:56.359 --> 01:56:01.479 Hundred percent and this is Allegedly a really why does 2098 01:56:01.479 --> 01:56:05.279 a religion have a secret spy network? Within it that's 2099 01:56:05.279 --> 01:56:08.680 not how, religions operate or AT least I don't i would. 2100 01:56:08.680 --> 01:56:12.359 THINK not i guess THERE'S some i. Don't. Know anyway 2101 01:56:13.119 --> 01:56:16.840 at seven, thirty am the key still. Hadn't arrived limenburg 2102 01:56:16.920 --> 01:56:20.279 told the church legal advisor that he was en route 2103 01:56:20.319 --> 01:56:23.119 and that he'd have the keys there in. Ten minutes at, 2104 01:56:23.119 --> 01:56:25.600 Eight am limberg instructed his men to open the locked 2105 01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:28.920 doors and cabinets. By force no one identifying themselves as 2106 01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:30.880 a legal advisor ever showed up with. 2107 01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:31.000 The. 2108 01:56:31.079 --> 01:56:34.760 Keys shocker while all this was. Going ON the fbi 2109 01:56:34.840 --> 01:56:39.159 was executing simultaneous search warrants at two other, church locations 2110 01:56:39.680 --> 01:56:43.479 the scientologies So Called celebrity center two miles away and 2111 01:56:43.600 --> 01:56:47.760 the church's Offices Near DuPont Circle, IN. Washington dc it's a, 2112 01:56:47.800 --> 01:56:51.039 nice area by. The way at, both locations church members 2113 01:56:51.199 --> 01:56:54.479 followed agents, with, cameras clipboards and. Tape recorders according TO the, 2114 01:56:54.560 --> 01:56:57.560 fbi reports church members At The celebrity center shut off 2115 01:56:57.640 --> 01:57:01.960 water so agents couldn't go to. The, bathroom yeah that'll get, 2116 01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:04.560 Them sing i'll. Take it do YOU think i won't 2117 01:57:04.560 --> 01:57:06.359 take a shit in your toilet just because your water? 2118 01:57:06.439 --> 01:57:12.239 Shut off you got, your mim. That's crazy at nine to, 2119 01:57:12.279 --> 01:57:15.680 forty Am The los angeles agents reported that they had. 2120 01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:19.239 Struck gold about ninety, minutes later they informed supervisors that 2121 01:57:19.279 --> 01:57:21.600 they had got everything that they were. Looking for and 2122 01:57:21.640 --> 01:57:25.199 then some AGENTS in dc reported to headquarters at one 2123 01:57:26.119 --> 01:57:30.800 to three pm with a cryptic message that it looks 2124 01:57:30.880 --> 01:57:33.960 like we SCORED A S. A s stams could not 2125 01:57:34.039 --> 01:57:37.199 elaborate on the message at. This TIME the fbi sees 2126 01:57:37.199 --> 01:57:39.680 so many documents from the church files that it took 2127 01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:42.520 teams of three agents working twenty four hours a day 2128 01:57:42.560 --> 01:57:47.640 for ten straight work days to xerox all. Of Them 2129 01:57:47.680 --> 01:57:51.399 the bureau had to rent ten additional copiers to handle. 2130 01:57:51.399 --> 01:57:54.800 The load so this wasn't. Like Operations snow white was 2131 01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:57.640 just like a little thing to get a document or 2132 01:57:57.680 --> 01:58:00.640 to get a file or even like a. Situation thing 2133 01:58:01.520 --> 01:58:05.840 every single piece of paper that the government had that 2134 01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:09.319 showed pretty much anything About the Church of scientology they 2135 01:58:09.359 --> 01:58:10.520 had a record of or they. 2136 01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:16.560 Stole, it, yeah yeah they they got as much information 2137 01:58:16.640 --> 01:58:19.319 as they. Possibly could and the thing is is that 2138 01:58:19.520 --> 01:58:23.119 you know this is it was kind of all for 2139 01:58:23.279 --> 01:58:25.279 not you KNOW what, I mean like all of it 2140 01:58:25.319 --> 01:58:27.760 eventually ended up coming, out anyway and still there are 2141 01:58:27.800 --> 01:58:33.119 people who are like, diehard scientologists, you know even with all, 2142 01:58:33.159 --> 01:58:36.319 THIS information i don't know how you look into such 2143 01:58:36.359 --> 01:58:39.079 a corrupt religion like this or whatever you want to. 2144 01:58:39.079 --> 01:58:40.960 CALL it i don't even know if you can call. It, 2145 01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:44.159 religion yeah it's more of a cull. For sure how 2146 01:58:44.439 --> 01:58:46.560 how do you know all of? This information it's Like The, 2147 01:58:46.560 --> 01:58:49.479 mormon church you Know what, I'm, saying like how can 2148 01:58:49.520 --> 01:58:52.840 you look at all of this shit and then still 2149 01:58:53.720 --> 01:58:56.359 know for a fact that your religion is the? 2150 01:58:56.439 --> 01:59:01.479 Right one it blows The mind it absolutely boggles my 2151 01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:03.359 mind when we, see, this DUDE because, i mean, all 2152 01:59:03.439 --> 01:59:06.760 right let's even, say that, oh yeah that was a 2153 01:59:06.800 --> 01:59:09.560 phase of. The church that's not how we do, it 2154 01:59:09.600 --> 01:59:12.680 now but that's how it. Was Then bro that that's 2155 01:59:12.720 --> 01:59:14.479 a horrible way to look. At it it's the same With 2156 01:59:14.520 --> 01:59:19.279 the Nation. Of islam they legitimately believed that white people 2157 01:59:19.319 --> 01:59:23.159 were created in six hundred years of. Forced breeding that's 2158 01:59:23.199 --> 01:59:27.520 not how. Genetics works, but, like okay and so you know, 2159 01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:30.640 this scientifically it's been proven that that can't happen, like 2160 01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:34.279 that but you still somehow believe that that's, the way. 2161 01:59:34.960 --> 01:59:38.079 Like correctly Church, Of, Scientology dude it's. 2162 01:59:38.159 --> 01:59:42.359 It's wild there's a lot of religions out there that 2163 01:59:42.439 --> 01:59:45.159 are very, faith BASED. 2164 01:59:45.640 --> 01:59:47.439 And I mean i could understand even a little bit 2165 01:59:47.479 --> 01:59:50.239 of some faith, on that even some blind faith to 2166 01:59:50.359 --> 01:59:54.000 a point if you were to show ME then, i 2167 01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:57.960 mean and it's not even like, it's ay this church 2168 01:59:58.199 --> 02:00:00.960 was corrupt because the guy in charge of this location 2169 02:00:01.920 --> 02:00:05.039 was embezzling money or was a womanizer or something. LIKE 2170 02:00:05.079 --> 02:00:08.840 that i could even, understand that like maybe that one 2171 02:00:08.880 --> 02:00:11.840 house of worship was, Fucked up but the entire religion 2172 02:00:11.920 --> 02:00:14.960 is Based, IN okay i can at least piece those. 2173 02:00:14.960 --> 02:00:18.359 THINGS together i. Really can but when you have an 2174 02:00:18.520 --> 02:00:23.680 entire quote unquote religion that from day one was founded, 2175 02:00:23.760 --> 02:00:30.239 in bullshit, cult, behavior conspiracy con, man things the only 2176 02:00:30.279 --> 02:00:32.880 way you can achieve the upper levels of your religion 2177 02:00:33.000 --> 02:00:36.199 is to pay money for it or sell all. Your 2178 02:00:36.239 --> 02:00:39.560 belongings and like you See what, i'm saying there is 2179 02:00:39.640 --> 02:00:45.079 a distinct difference between a religion and. A, cult scientology 2180 02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:48.199 by every METRIC that i can, look at is. A, cult, 2181 02:00:48.840 --> 02:00:52.640 yeah well most religions they only want ten percent of. 2182 02:00:52.680 --> 02:00:55.880 Your money the cults want one. Hundred percent that's the. 2183 02:00:55.840 --> 02:00:57.560 ONLY one i know Of. Is jewish they're the ONLY 2184 02:00:57.600 --> 02:00:59.479 ones i want. Ten percent that's not Even a. CHRISTIAN 2185 02:00:59.560 --> 02:01:02.119 law a Lot of christians, took that but that's not 2186 02:01:02.159 --> 02:01:03.800 supposed to Be a. Christian law it's not In The new. 2187 02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:08.800 Testament anywhere, Oh well i'm sure that there are gonna 2188 02:01:08.800 --> 02:01:10.039 be people that disagree with you. 2189 02:01:10.159 --> 02:01:12.880 On that they can come. At me they can come 2190 02:01:12.920 --> 02:01:15.079 at me on. That ONE honestly. I will i will 2191 02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:17.920 go toe to toe with anybody who disagrees. On that 2192 02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:21.479 it's not like. A fight but the tithe Is a 2193 02:01:21.600 --> 02:01:26.000 jewish word For a, jewish law meaning a mandatory tenth 2194 02:01:26.119 --> 02:01:29.479 of your talents. Or harvest it was actually forbidden to 2195 02:01:29.520 --> 02:01:32.359 give money. As tithe as a matter, of fact the 2196 02:01:32.399 --> 02:01:34.920 only time tithe is brought up in that context is 2197 02:01:34.920 --> 02:01:38.520 twice In. The bible once whenever it's, for transportation, means 2198 02:01:39.000 --> 02:01:40.840 like you have so much grain you can't, Carry it 2199 02:01:41.119 --> 02:01:43.039 sell the grain and locally carry the money near the, 2200 02:01:43.039 --> 02:01:46.199 temple storehouse buy equal parts grain and give it to. 2201 02:01:46.239 --> 02:01:49.000 The temple Or when jesus came into the temple and 2202 02:01:49.039 --> 02:01:51.119 saw they were turning a prophet off, the tithe and, 2203 02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:52.800 he said you turn my father's house into a den. 2204 02:01:52.880 --> 02:01:56.960 Of thieves there is no context for tithe to be 2205 02:01:57.000 --> 02:01:59.640 brought Up Any. New Testament so i'm not saying you 2206 02:01:59.640 --> 02:02:02.960 shouldn' donate to your church if it's an organization that 2207 02:02:03.000 --> 02:02:05.680 you believe in and you would like to put money towards. Their, 2208 02:02:05.720 --> 02:02:07.279 efforts hey WHO am i to tell you that? That's 2209 02:02:07.279 --> 02:02:12.039 crazy shouldn't though a? Mandatory, Tenth, bro no that's not how, 2210 02:02:12.039 --> 02:02:16.239 that works not. At all but that's a whole conversation for. 2211 02:02:16.279 --> 02:02:19.000 Another day but beside the. Point here, So, scientology yeah 2212 02:02:19.039 --> 02:02:22.159 the only way you can achieve their clearness is if 2213 02:02:22.159 --> 02:02:26.039 you're willing to spend hundreds of thousands. Of, dollars yeah 2214 02:02:26.119 --> 02:02:28.199 so you got people taking out mortgages on their home 2215 02:02:28.720 --> 02:02:31.600 to get, this book a, new book or a new 2216 02:02:31.720 --> 02:02:34.840 edition of, this book to get themselves even. More clear 2217 02:02:34.880 --> 02:02:37.800 it's basically like it's. A cult the only way you 2218 02:02:37.840 --> 02:02:41.439 can achieve higher levels of it is to reindoctrinate yourself 2219 02:02:41.479 --> 02:02:44.359 into it. Even deeper it's. Like communism it's a spiritual. 2220 02:02:44.399 --> 02:02:44.800 Pyramid. 2221 02:02:44.840 --> 02:02:48.920 Scheme essentially it's a and THAT'S what i, called IT 2222 02:02:49.000 --> 02:02:52.439 what i, said earlier IT'S a i would say it's a. Philosophical, 2223 02:02:52.560 --> 02:02:55.960 cult yeah you got The god xenu and all. These 2224 02:02:55.960 --> 02:02:57.760 things so to actually say YOU what i want to 2225 02:02:57.760 --> 02:03:00.760 see if there's a YouTube Video, ABOUT xenu i guarantee 2226 02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:06.000 there's a quick little something talking about their their Alien 2227 02:03:06.039 --> 02:03:09.199 god xenu and what they believe. About it, but YEAH 2228 02:03:09.239 --> 02:03:13.479 so i just have a hard time understanding and. 2229 02:03:13.479 --> 02:03:16.840 See that it's not even crazy to me, THAT somebody, 2230 02:03:17.399 --> 02:03:20.920 i mean let's just say somebody channeled this this. Alien 2231 02:03:21.079 --> 02:03:27.000 entity stranger claims have been made all. Throughout history it's 2232 02:03:27.119 --> 02:03:30.039 just weird that you only hear about it. In scientology, 2233 02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:34.600 you know normally you'll get like h channeled ENTITIES like i. 2234 02:03:34.640 --> 02:03:37.520 DON'T know, i mean Then there's bashar and. 2235 02:03:38.159 --> 02:03:39.600 You took the words out of my mouth on. That 2236 02:03:39.680 --> 02:03:42.000 one but he's not trying to lead. A cult he's 2237 02:03:42.039 --> 02:03:44.720 not trying to spawn. A religion he's you See what. 2238 02:03:44.720 --> 02:03:46.600 I'm saying he's not telling people to sell all their 2239 02:03:46.600 --> 02:03:48.920 belongings and. Follow HIM so i don't see him as 2240 02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:51.720 if you're gonna call him, a grifter it would be 2241 02:03:51.760 --> 02:03:54.840 because he's making money off of like the content creation of. 2242 02:03:54.880 --> 02:03:57.039 It all but That's not he's not trying to lead 2243 02:03:57.079 --> 02:03:59.800 a new, religious movement you KNOW what, i mean nothing. 2244 02:03:59.840 --> 02:04:03.399 Like that, but Yeah So lex friedman actually had this guy. 2245 02:04:03.439 --> 02:04:08.520 Come on ex Scientologist Explains zenu scientology's. Galactic overlord This 2246 02:04:08.560 --> 02:04:11.720 Is Aaron, smith levin who is a. Former member you ready, for? This? Bro, 2247 02:04:11.920 --> 02:04:12.600 mmmm yeah. 2248 02:04:12.680 --> 02:04:14.479 Let's go can, you describe you? 2249 02:04:14.479 --> 02:04:17.439 Know please we spoke earlier about how at the lower 2250 02:04:17.840 --> 02:04:20.319 non confidential Levels of, Scientology's bridge hubbard is saying that 2251 02:04:20.319 --> 02:04:24.479 what's wrong with you is your. Reactive, mind, yes, okay well, 2252 02:04:24.520 --> 02:04:26.800 in scientology once you've gotten rid of your, reactive mind 2253 02:04:27.119 --> 02:04:29.439 that is what's called the state. Of, clear okay so 2254 02:04:29.520 --> 02:04:31.359 after you finished state, of clear the next thing on 2255 02:04:31.399 --> 02:04:33.960 the bridge is the. Ot, levels well if you've already 2256 02:04:33.960 --> 02:04:35.439 gotten rid of your, active mind what the heck are 2257 02:04:35.439 --> 02:04:37.600 you supposed to? Do, now, well Now El ron, Hubbard, 2258 02:04:37.600 --> 02:04:40.520 says okay first what was wrong with you was just your. 2259 02:04:40.560 --> 02:04:43.479 Reactive mind but now the next thing you have. To 2260 02:04:43.520 --> 02:04:45.680 resolve the next thing that's wrong with you is you 2261 02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:50.640 actually have tens of thousands of thetan's stuck to, your 2262 02:04:50.640 --> 02:04:54.439 body and they all have their own. Reactive minds, oh 2263 02:04:54.520 --> 02:04:58.880 wow you have to audit. The thetans how do you audit? 2264 02:04:58.920 --> 02:05:03.399 The themes these are different shades of your inner mind 2265 02:05:03.800 --> 02:05:06.479 and you have to try to access. Them somehow you 2266 02:05:06.600 --> 02:05:09.039 use the e meter just like we, spoke about except 2267 02:05:09.079 --> 02:05:11.640 now you've got a divider that separates the cans so 2268 02:05:11.680 --> 02:05:13.560 they don't, short circuit and you hold both cans in, 2269 02:05:13.560 --> 02:05:16.239 one hand and you have the emuter in front. 2270 02:05:16.279 --> 02:05:16.920 Of you so now you're. 2271 02:05:16.960 --> 02:05:22.720 Auditing yourself you're telepathically talking to the things that are stuck. 2272 02:05:22.720 --> 02:05:26.479 To you you are thinking the commands instead of saying them, 2273 02:05:26.520 --> 02:05:29.199 out loud and you sort of do drills where you 2274 02:05:29.199 --> 02:05:31.800 practice looking for emeter reads at the instant you have, 2275 02:05:31.840 --> 02:05:38.760 a thought you're telepathically auditing spirits That L ron hubbard 2276 02:05:38.800 --> 02:05:41.239 says are stuck to. Your body does this sound like 2277 02:05:41.279 --> 02:05:43.680 a recipe for a mental breakdown or a. 2278 02:05:43.640 --> 02:05:44.039 Heck of a? 2279 02:05:44.079 --> 02:05:48.359 Mental journey wherever that leads is a could. Lead anywhere 2280 02:05:48.520 --> 02:05:51.479 it probably lead to a very, bad, place right very. 2281 02:05:51.520 --> 02:05:55.319 Often does and you combine that with the fact that 2282 02:05:55.359 --> 02:05:59.560 scientology is against any forms of mental help or health outside, 2283 02:05:59.560 --> 02:06:02.840 of scientificology and you have a recipe. For disaster now you, 2284 02:06:02.920 --> 02:06:05.079 might go where did all these spirits come from that 2285 02:06:05.119 --> 02:06:07.479 are stuck to? Your body this Is where xenu comes. 2286 02:06:07.479 --> 02:06:10.319 Into Play so hubbard says that seventy five million, Years 2287 02:06:10.359 --> 02:06:17.319 ago xenu was basically a dictator At The. Galactic confederation 2288 02:06:17.439 --> 02:06:20.039 is like seventy something or eighty something planets sit somewhere 2289 02:06:20.039 --> 02:06:23.720 In The, milky Way and xenu was like, a dictator 2290 02:06:23.720 --> 02:06:25.560 an overlord for either one of these planets or the. 2291 02:06:25.600 --> 02:06:29.880 Whole system and they had a, population Problem and xenu, 2292 02:06:30.000 --> 02:06:32.000 was like we need to get rid of like half, 2293 02:06:32.079 --> 02:06:34.800 the people so we called them all in for. Tax 2294 02:06:34.840 --> 02:06:37.960 Audits al hubbard didn't like, the irs so of course 2295 02:06:37.960 --> 02:06:40.119 the story has to do with. Tax, audits okay called 2296 02:06:40.159 --> 02:06:43.760 them all in for, tax audits said, psych bitches froze them, 2297 02:06:43.760 --> 02:06:47.000 in glycol loaded them up on, space planes flew Them. 2298 02:06:47.039 --> 02:06:49.840 To earth remember the story has To, be earth because 2299 02:06:49.960 --> 02:06:52.439 the story is what's wrong? With us flew Them, to 2300 02:06:52.560 --> 02:06:55.760 earth drop them, in volcanoes blew them up with, hydrogen 2301 02:06:55.800 --> 02:07:00.439 bombs and then captured them with like. Spirit magnets making 2302 02:07:00.520 --> 02:07:07.119 up words, because okay and these disembodied spirits of these 2303 02:07:07.119 --> 02:07:09.720 people that got blown up have just been blown in 2304 02:07:09.760 --> 02:07:11.760 the wind Here, on earth and they attach themselves, to 2305 02:07:11.840 --> 02:07:14.199 things and they can be in, the environment and they 2306 02:07:14.199 --> 02:07:16.840 stick to bodies and everything and so and they all have. 2307 02:07:16.920 --> 02:07:20.880 Reactive minds so at scientology's, upper levels if you get 2308 02:07:20.960 --> 02:07:23.199 sick or you, have cancer or there's something wrong, with 2309 02:07:23.239 --> 02:07:27.039 you scientology, will say that's one of your. Body things 2310 02:07:27.119 --> 02:07:28.479 you need to get some auditing to fix the. 2311 02:07:28.520 --> 02:07:31.960 Body things so, this story you do it with a 2312 02:07:32.039 --> 02:07:34.520 kind of a bit of, a chuckle but when, done 2313 02:07:34.600 --> 02:07:39.319 seriously so it's just told in a, serious way like 2314 02:07:39.359 --> 02:07:40.079 to like or. 2315 02:07:40.119 --> 02:07:41.560 Written down it's. Run down you. 2316 02:07:41.640 --> 02:07:44.399 Read it by, most accounts scientologists struggle when they read 2317 02:07:44.399 --> 02:07:46.680 this for the first time because this is not consistent 2318 02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:50.560 with what scientologists are hoping for us ON the. Ot 2319 02:07:50.720 --> 02:07:53.680 levels they're hoping for some real life changing magic the 2320 02:07:53.720 --> 02:07:57.159 way these things are described. And sold, they're remember they're 2321 02:07:57.159 --> 02:07:59.399 hoping THAT these at levels are going to make them 2322 02:07:59.640 --> 02:08:02.359 give them the ability to go like completely independent of, 2323 02:08:02.399 --> 02:08:05.319 their body, at will exteriorize from, your body go back into, 2324 02:08:05.319 --> 02:08:07.880 your body, you KNOW like i have some real. 2325 02:08:07.920 --> 02:08:10.359 Spirit powers so first is kind of a shock, this 2326 02:08:10.439 --> 02:08:14.119 is but then you still probably believe, you, hope yeah 2327 02:08:14.239 --> 02:08:16.800 and you might be might turn into on yourself self 2328 02:08:16.800 --> 02:08:20.119 critical that This is i'm just not strong. Enough, Yet 2329 02:08:21.079 --> 02:08:23.279 yeah because also part of, the scientology remember it works 2330 02:08:23.279 --> 02:08:25.640 one hundred percent of the time when used one hundred, 2331 02:08:25.640 --> 02:08:29.720 percent correctly and if, it doesn't it could be because 2332 02:08:29.720 --> 02:08:30.399 something's not being. 2333 02:08:30.439 --> 02:08:34.279 Done right but it also could be because you're doing 2334 02:08:34.319 --> 02:08:36.960 bad things that you're not telling. People about like if 2335 02:08:36.960 --> 02:08:42.600 you're committing present time over its, crimes sins scientologists would, 2336 02:08:42.600 --> 02:08:44.439 be like that's part of the reason auditing isn't working. 2337 02:08:44.439 --> 02:08:46.800 On you it is because you're committing criminal behavior that 2338 02:08:46.800 --> 02:08:49.920 you're not being. Honest about so every scientologist is sort 2339 02:08:49.960 --> 02:08:55.399 of incentivized to make auditing work On, them, Okay, now 2340 02:08:55.479 --> 02:08:57.920 lex this work is a. Little CRAZY on, ot three 2341 02:08:57.960 --> 02:08:59.960 you learn about the ot the body things for the. 2342 02:09:00.119 --> 02:09:03.840 First time when YOU finish, ot three you attest to 2343 02:09:03.920 --> 02:09:06.119 having achieved the state of having no more. Body things 2344 02:09:06.680 --> 02:09:10.319 and then YOU start ot four and, he's, like psych. 2345 02:09:10.680 --> 02:09:12.119 You Got more you got. 2346 02:09:12.119 --> 02:09:15.800 More bts except those other BT's they had drug problems 2347 02:09:15.800 --> 02:09:17.279 and that's why you couldn't find them the. First time 2348 02:09:17.640 --> 02:09:19.359 so we're gonna do something a little, different here do 2349 02:09:19.399 --> 02:09:21.119 something a little. Different there got to get rid of 2350 02:09:21.119 --> 02:09:22.199 these BT's that were addicted. 2351 02:09:22.239 --> 02:09:22.279 To. 2352 02:09:22.359 --> 02:09:25.079 Drugs okay then YOU finish ot four and, you're, THINKING 2353 02:09:25.439 --> 02:09:27.000 man i hope you get to the good. Stuff soon 2354 02:09:27.399 --> 02:09:28.880 and then you GET to ot five and, he's. 2355 02:09:28.760 --> 02:09:30.119 Like psych you got. 2356 02:09:30.159 --> 02:09:32.960 More bts you couldn't find these BT's because they were 2357 02:09:33.000 --> 02:09:35.680 all bunched up together. In clusters in first you have 2358 02:09:35.680 --> 02:09:37.159 to break up the clusters and then you can get 2359 02:09:37.239 --> 02:09:39.680 rid of. The bts and, you're, like okay gotta. 2360 02:09:39.760 --> 02:09:42.680 Do that and this was all Al around. 2361 02:09:42.720 --> 02:09:46.039 Hubbard, approved yeah this is From L. Ron hubbard and 2362 02:09:46.119 --> 02:09:48.319 then after YOU finish, ot five you get rid of 2363 02:09:48.319 --> 02:09:50.920 ALL the. BT clusters ot six is just a training 2364 02:09:50.960 --> 02:09:53.399 course to teach you HOW to. Autot, SEVEN well ot 2365 02:09:53.479 --> 02:09:57.479 seven is NOW, more bts except it's in the. Environment 2366 02:09:57.600 --> 02:09:59.640 stuff you're trying to. Locate bts you can find them on, 2367 02:09:59.680 --> 02:10:03.000 your boby but it's just, more. Bts okay AND then 2368 02:10:03.039 --> 02:10:05.680 ot eight is remember we talked about in all these 2369 02:10:05.720 --> 02:10:09.479 auditing sessions throughout the Entire, scientology bridge you have people 2370 02:10:09.600 --> 02:10:13.079 who've run hundreds or thousands of past life whole. Track 2371 02:10:13.159 --> 02:10:16.760 incidents these memories have become part of their self identity 2372 02:10:16.760 --> 02:10:17.600 of who they even think. 2373 02:10:17.680 --> 02:10:18.039 THEY are. 2374 02:10:18.960 --> 02:10:21.880 Ot eight you go through all these past life recalls 2375 02:10:21.920 --> 02:10:24.720 And essentially i'm oversimplifying this a. Little bit, he, goes 2376 02:10:25.079 --> 02:10:29.239 psych all those past life memories, weren't yours they WERE. 2377 02:10:29.279 --> 02:10:30.479 Your bts. 2378 02:10:32.159 --> 02:10:35.960 And, he goes now that you've, discovered this now you 2379 02:10:36.119 --> 02:10:39.600 know who you are not and you are ready to 2380 02:10:39.640 --> 02:10:40.319 find out who you. 2381 02:10:40.359 --> 02:10:42.520 Really, are well now you're. 2382 02:10:42.359 --> 02:10:43.239 Supposed to find out who you. 2383 02:10:43.239 --> 02:10:47.920 Really ARE on ot nine, and ten those. Don't exist they. 2384 02:10:48.039 --> 02:10:55.479 Don't exist so he never finished the dogma. 2385 02:10:55.680 --> 02:10:59.000 OR what i don't think he actually expected somebody to 2386 02:10:59.039 --> 02:11:02.239 spend eight hundred thousand dollars On each like one of 2387 02:11:02.239 --> 02:11:05.239 these books is like one. Hundred GRAND so ot eight 2388 02:11:05.479 --> 02:11:12.760 you've soaked a fortune into mind fucking yourself so hard 2389 02:11:12.800 --> 02:11:15.239 that you don't even know who you. Are anymore and 2390 02:11:15.279 --> 02:11:16.159 then you're left. 2391 02:11:15.960 --> 02:11:20.720 With that to think that people legitimately believe that this 2392 02:11:20.800 --> 02:11:23.279 is what's. Going on, you would but. 2393 02:11:24.760 --> 02:11:27.520 Earlier with THE whole, xenu situation it's not like this 2394 02:11:27.560 --> 02:11:30.279 is unlike any other religion or any. Other movement It's 2395 02:11:30.319 --> 02:11:32.960 like homeboy just brought them here and said, fuck off 2396 02:11:33.039 --> 02:11:36.239 and now they are like not, Even demons they're not 2397 02:11:36.279 --> 02:11:40.439 even comparable. To that it's just their entities that will attach. 2398 02:11:40.520 --> 02:11:43.039 To you, and LIKE and i love how he said it. 2399 02:11:43.079 --> 02:11:45.479 Like that if this isn't working, for you if you're 2400 02:11:45.800 --> 02:11:48.199 if your e meeter is not working, for you these audits, aren't, 2401 02:11:48.199 --> 02:11:51.119 working well it's because you are not doing. It right 2402 02:11:51.960 --> 02:11:54.319 you didn't apply it the right way, to yourself or 2403 02:11:55.119 --> 02:11:58.720 or you've got something you're not, telling us and that's 2404 02:11:58.760 --> 02:12:01.199 why we can't help you. Even further you See what, i'm, 2405 02:12:01.239 --> 02:12:06.640 Saying dude this is. A, cult yeah it's it seems 2406 02:12:06.720 --> 02:12:10.319 Like a marvel universe. Gone wrong and this is all 2407 02:12:10.359 --> 02:12:14.840 by the sci fi Writer L, ron hubbard and all 2408 02:12:14.960 --> 02:12:17.880 that led To Operations snow white and all of the 2409 02:12:17.920 --> 02:12:24.119 other operations that have happened of espionage and attempted assassinations 2410 02:12:24.439 --> 02:12:26.800 of people who were just trying to do what that 2411 02:12:26.880 --> 02:12:28.920 guy just did On The Lex frieman show and just talk. 2412 02:12:28.920 --> 02:12:34.720 About it this is like If stan lee was a 2413 02:12:34.760 --> 02:12:38.920 maniacal overlord who wanted everybody to Believe That iron man 2414 02:12:39.000 --> 02:12:42.479 was a. Real, character yep that's what it. Sounds like 2415 02:12:42.600 --> 02:12:44.840 AND so, i mean and to, be honest there are 2416 02:12:44.840 --> 02:12:47.079 a lot of, people WHO like i don't want, to 2417 02:12:47.079 --> 02:12:52.399 Say worship marvel characters by, any means BUT definitely i, idolize, 2418 02:12:52.479 --> 02:12:56.000 them yeah. BIG time, i, MEAN dude i have tattoos 2419 02:12:56.000 --> 02:12:58.800 of superheroes, on me. You know so, it's like how 2420 02:12:58.800 --> 02:13:00.880 far do you want to? Take that but, you know, 2421 02:13:01.359 --> 02:13:05.840 this guy he was almost trying to bring fiction into. 2422 02:13:05.880 --> 02:13:09.680 A reality. I don't i don't just by learning what we've, 2423 02:13:09.800 --> 02:13:12.439 LEARNED today i don't even think That Al ron hubbard believed. 2424 02:13:12.439 --> 02:13:15.680 This NONSENSE like i think it was absolutely a money 2425 02:13:15.680 --> 02:13:18.239 grab because there is there are a lot of spiritually 2426 02:13:18.359 --> 02:13:21.000 hungry people who are trying to search for truth in 2427 02:13:21.119 --> 02:13:25.079 all corners of, the world and this guy found a 2428 02:13:25.119 --> 02:13:27.920 way to make a fucking gazillion dollars off, of it 2429 02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:31.279 and and the fact that all those people that we 2430 02:13:31.359 --> 02:13:34.319 named earlier that are still, In it, it's, like bro 2431 02:13:34.680 --> 02:13:36.359 what the fuck is actually wrong? 2432 02:13:36.399 --> 02:13:41.520 With you they're psychopaths and they've probably paid all that 2433 02:13:41.600 --> 02:13:43.520 money and gone through these levels and all. This shit 2434 02:13:43.640 --> 02:13:46.119 now they don't even know who they. Are anymore how 2435 02:13:46.159 --> 02:13:51.800 do you even call? THIS scientology i wouldn't, you know 2436 02:13:52.159 --> 02:13:55.720 it's it's not. A church this IS a i could 2437 02:13:55.760 --> 02:13:58.439 see it being like a networking thing for, the Elites the. 2438 02:13:58.479 --> 02:14:00.560 Hollywood types you want to make it in. The industry 2439 02:14:00.600 --> 02:14:03.800 you know this group over here has some. Powerful players 2440 02:14:03.800 --> 02:14:05.199 you want to get In good you want to be 2441 02:14:05.199 --> 02:14:07.119 a part of the click and all. That shit what 2442 02:14:07.159 --> 02:14:12.279 was that movie With Uh martin? Martin Shit eddie murphy 2443 02:14:12.359 --> 02:14:15.399 was playing the guy and it was a comedy and 2444 02:14:15.439 --> 02:14:17.239 it Was all this guy's name Was. Kit rams they 2445 02:14:17.239 --> 02:14:18.920 had to find a guy that looked just like him 2446 02:14:18.960 --> 02:14:20.760 to play him in a movie that he didn't even 2447 02:14:20.800 --> 02:14:23.720 know that he. Was in you Know what i'm? 2448 02:14:23.720 --> 02:14:24.600 TALKING about i don't think. 2449 02:14:24.640 --> 02:14:29.199 So, shit basically there was this one part where it 2450 02:14:29.239 --> 02:14:30.520 was like he was a part of this group Called, 2451 02:14:30.600 --> 02:14:35.079 mind head and it was it was an organization that 2452 02:14:35.199 --> 02:14:37.640 was supposed to be a spoof off, of scientology but, 2453 02:14:37.800 --> 02:14:40.920 like this it's that's. What happens you get these people 2454 02:14:40.960 --> 02:14:43.359 that are already mentally weak and they're looking for something 2455 02:14:43.359 --> 02:14:46.399 to attach. Themselves to you get this group that's got 2456 02:14:46.479 --> 02:14:49.279 a lot of, powerful people a lot of, wealthy people all, 2457 02:14:49.359 --> 02:14:52.560 these things and it's, like ah by the time you 2458 02:14:52.600 --> 02:14:54.640 get to the end and you realize it's. All bullshit 2459 02:14:54.920 --> 02:14:57.920 you have soaked how many years, into this how much money? 2460 02:14:57.960 --> 02:15:00.600 Into this and they have all of, your dirty darkest 2461 02:15:00.640 --> 02:15:03.039 secrets because you gave them up willingly to try to 2462 02:15:03.119 --> 02:15:05.479 free yourself from all. These things so now. 2463 02:15:05.520 --> 02:15:10.560 You're, fucked yeah this, is uh this, is. Crazy DUDE 2464 02:15:10.600 --> 02:15:13.560 like i wish that they would have called it something 2465 02:15:13.600 --> 02:15:17.520 other than SCIENTOLOGY because i can get behind some of 2466 02:15:17.560 --> 02:15:20.119 the things that science is finding as far as like 2467 02:15:20.560 --> 02:15:25.079 spiritual modalities. Or, Whatever right like you you find the 2468 02:15:25.199 --> 02:15:28.720 yin yang with, Quantum entanglement like, that's, Crazy right like, 2469 02:15:28.760 --> 02:15:35.439 that's science that's. Spiritual. Science proven this shit is not scientific. 2470 02:15:35.479 --> 02:15:38.159 At all like there's nothing scientific about any, of this. 2471 02:15:39.000 --> 02:15:41.880 Not even a. Little. Bit dude it's wild so good. 2472 02:15:41.920 --> 02:15:45.319 Cult members that is our Episode on Operations, Snow white 2473 02:15:45.399 --> 02:15:46.840 we had a couple of videos and a couple, of 2474 02:15:46.920 --> 02:15:48.600 articles and if you would like to see that for 2475 02:15:48.680 --> 02:15:51.119 yourself rather than just hear, about it and if you 2476 02:15:51.119 --> 02:15:53.159 would like to join Us For tuesday night and all 2477 02:15:53.159 --> 02:15:54.840 of the, Other things jonathan tell them where they. 2478 02:15:54.880 --> 02:15:56.800 Could go come check us out over at patreon dot 2479 02:15:56.800 --> 02:15:59.359 Com slash Cult Of. Conspiracy podcast you get the shows 2480 02:15:59.399 --> 02:16:00.760 a couple of days. In advance you get to be 2481 02:16:00.800 --> 02:16:02.640 able to Slide INTO, Jacob's dms you get to be 2482 02:16:02.680 --> 02:16:05.439 able to watch all the video the day that it 2483 02:16:05.520 --> 02:16:08.119 is edited and. 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