WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:04.519 Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch. 2 00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:07.639 Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America 3 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:09.400 and Jim Garritty of National Review. 4 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:11.679 Free Martini's coming up. 5 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:15.599 Hey, we made it to Friday, and we actually have 6 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:18.559 some good news on more than one story today. 7 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:19.199 How about that. 8 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:21.839 We'll take that going into the weekend. In a moment, 9 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:25.399 we'll be talking about the fact that the Brown University 10 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:28.960 shooter turned out to also be the MIT shooter. He's 11 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:31.879 also dead, and we'll get more of an explanation on 12 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:35.200 what exactly happened here. 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That's zoc doc dot com slash three mL, 42 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:15.599 zogdoc dot com slash three m L All right, Jim. 43 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:19.120 As evidenced by two of our martinis already this week, 44 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:22.919 our confidence in the Providence police and Brown University officials 45 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:27.360 and Rhode Island was not exactly sky high. Turns out, though, 46 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.960 that this case appears to have been solved, although with 47 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.879 many lingering questions that may never get answered, kind of 48 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:38.199 had dueling press conferences last night. Providence folks showed up 49 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:42.280 mainly to congratulate themselves, it seemed like, but also in 50 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:46.919 dribs and drabs to give out an explanation of how 51 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:51.400 the case came together. Up in Boston, the US attorney 52 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.919 up there, Leah Foley, with a much more coherent explanation 53 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:56.080 of what happened. 54 00:02:56.199 --> 00:03:02.080 Investigators identified the vehicle he had rented in Boston and 55 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:06.039 then drove to Rhode Island, and he was seen in 56 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.840 the vehicle, was seen outside of Brown, and there was 57 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:15.400 security footage that showed a person who resembled him. There 58 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:18.400 was online there was financial investigations that were going on 59 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:21.879 in the background that linked him not only to that car, 60 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:27.120 but also to the hotels that he had rented and 61 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:30.560 the cars. The car that he had used to not 62 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:32.960 only drive to Rhode Island but then back to Boston, 63 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:36.199 and then there was a security footage that captured him 64 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:41.960 within a half mile of the professor's residence in Brookline, 65 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:48.000 and there is a video footage of him entering an 66 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:52.360 apartment building in the location of the professor's apartment, and 67 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.560 then later that evening he is seen about an hour 68 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:59.479 later entering the storage unit wearing this same clothes that 69 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:02.360 he had been scene wearing right after the murder. 70 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:05.000 Yeah, that seems pretty cut and dried. The Brown shooting 71 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:07.360 was on the thirteenth, the murder of the professor was 72 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:10.240 on the fifteenth. Found debt on the eighteenth, and a 73 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:14.400 storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire, and so Jim there 74 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:18.639 was also switching license plates from the rental Florida plates 75 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:22.439 to once from Maine that were long expired. And so 76 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.000 we still don't know motive. Why did he shoot up 77 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:27.639 the class in Brown? Seems like he may have known 78 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:30.360 this professor from MIT and maybe that was the real target. 79 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:32.920 What do you make of what we do know and 80 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:33.480 what we don't. 81 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:37.720 Well, the threat has passed, which is probably you know, 82 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:39.600 why we put this in the good Martine. It's good 83 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:43.360 to have some answers of who the perpetrator was kind 84 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:45.800 of infuriating about the press conference, which I'll talk about 85 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.120 a bit more in a second, but you know, I 86 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.199 remember at the time you and I talked on this podcast. 87 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:52.959 I don't think beating the drums for this, but people wondering, 88 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:56.639 considering the identity of the professor, was this potentially an 89 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.040 anti Semitic attack from this happened the same day as 90 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:02.199 the terrible attack in Australia. Then we found out that 91 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:04.319 one of the two students of slain was vice president 92 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:06.319 of the College Republicans. Some people wondered if she had 93 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:09.480 been particularly targeted by this. Based on what we know 94 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.079 right now, neither of those appear to be the case. 95 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:16.160 No nothing at connecting this guy to jihadism, Islamism, anything 96 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:20.040 like that. No indication that this any student was particularly targeted. 97 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:24.120 The student the shooter had gone to Brown University as 98 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:27.399 a pH d candidate back in like the year two thousand, 99 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:31.279 stopped going to classes two thousand and one, ended up 100 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:33.759 formally withdrawing in two thousand and three, I believe, based 101 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:37.120 on the university president's statement, so he had a connection 102 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:39.439 to Brown but had been a long time. Kind of 103 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:43.000 makes sense by nobody recognized him or recognized his voice. 104 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:45.959 By the way, the state Attorney General had said that 105 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.360 some people had said that he had not said anything 106 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:51.879 during the shooting. There were comments saying he had shouted something, 107 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:53.759 and a lot of people thought, oh, was this a 108 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:55.920 la akbar or was you know, were people was this 109 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:58.279 an Islamist attack? And people just didn't want to admit it. 110 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.120 The state Attorney General said last night that some witnesses 111 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:04.199 said that he was barking. Now, I don't know if 112 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:07.600 that's not understanding something in Portuguese or whether he really was, 113 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:09.680 but he kind of got He looked as confused as 114 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:11.480 the rest of us when he shared that detail. So 115 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:14.600 no indication pointing that this was, you know, in his 116 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.720 Lamist attack and people were afraid to admit it. The 117 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.160 guy had some connection to Brown University in this his 118 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:24.240 previous program he studied physics and this he apparently knew 119 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:27.360 the professor at MIT that he murdered. So this appears 120 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.079 to be personal motives from a person, you know, the 121 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:34.759 standard classification, just some nut, no larger ideological one, no 122 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:37.639 sense of a manifesto, no sense of a you know, 123 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:42.439 larger cause that he was fighting for. Seemingly personal grievances 124 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.319 of some kind with the school and with this professor. 125 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:47.879 Every bit is sad, everybod is wrong. But just you know, 126 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.199 that's something we can kind of put about this. We 127 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:54.439 had been underwhelmed by the performance of the Mayor of Providence, 128 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.560 the police chief, state Attorney General, and governor in these 129 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:01.079 press conferences. Earlier in the week. At the press conference 130 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.120 in up in Boston, seemed to be a lot more 131 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:05.639 Joe Friday just the faximam, which is kind of what 132 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.319 we all tuned in for. I did not love that 133 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:10.879 the Providence press conference began with everyone talking about how 134 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:12.920 proud they were of everyone who had worked at how hard. 135 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.600 Everyone like, yes, you know you are law enforcement officials 136 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:19.759 responding and investigating a mass shooting. I would hope that 137 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:21.759 you're working hard. I would hope that you're putting in low. 138 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:23.639 This is this is like the job, this is, you know. 139 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:25.560 So I kind of I could have done without all 140 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.160 of that. And there was one last detail that stuck 141 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:31.360 in my crawl. Wrote about it in Today's Morning Joelt 142 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:33.800 From the beginning, I've just kind of marveled at the 143 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:38.079 fact that somebody committed a mass shooting on a IGU 144 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:43.360 league college campus and apparently nothing got caught on security 145 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.720 cameras that was of any use to law enforcement. And 146 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:49.720 there's this very specific question about this to the university 147 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:52.920 president last night, who said, you didn't have any cameras 148 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:54.639 in the universe in that building, And she says there 149 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:58.040 were cameras in that building, but not enough of them. 150 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:00.720 She also affirmed again that there are one one two 151 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:04.959 hundred security cameras on Brown University's campus. Maybe it's just 152 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.680 a remarkable coincidence, but just amazing that this guy managed 153 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:10.519 to pick the route where none of them saw anything 154 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:14.199 that was useful. And because there was some confusion, I 155 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:16.439 was not I never wrote or said that the security 156 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:20.079 cameras would have prevented this attack, but it became very important. Okay, 157 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:23.000 so the guy's there with the mask, Well, does anybody 158 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:25.040 see him before he puts on the mask? Does anybody 159 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:27.399 see him after he takes off the mask? Is there? 160 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.720 You know? Can we follow the route that he departed? 161 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.720 All these kind of things. It sounds like all of 162 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:35.679 this came or the really big break in the case 163 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:40.159 came from John, who is apparently a homeless person, former 164 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:43.080 graduate of Brown University who lives in the building. I 165 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:44.840 don't know about you. That strikes me as a less 166 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:47.080 than ideal set of circumstances. But John had some sort 167 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:49.879 of confrontation with the shooter and kind of sense that 168 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:51.879 the shooter was there and did not belong. He's in 169 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:54.919 his late forties, he probably probably knew he wasn't a professor, 170 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:56.879 and he didn't look like he was a student. So 171 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:59.840 the question is what's he doing there? And he connected 172 00:08:59.879 --> 00:09:02.240 him to the car, and from the car, they were 173 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.039 able to connect him to the car rental place that 174 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:06.559 gave them the name, found out that both cars were 175 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:11.039 involved in both shooting incidents. Eventually traced him to New Hampshire, 176 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:14.320 where he had apparently killed himself. So again, you know, 177 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:16.679 glad that the threat has gone kind of frustrating, and 178 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:21.279 I just you know, Marvel. So what struck me as 179 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:24.759 last night was the insistence of the university president quote. 180 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:26.720 I do not think a lack of cameras in that 181 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:28.960 building had anything to do with what happened there. Well, 182 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.600 it probably would have helped the cops, wouldn't it if 183 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.440 you know, we'd had some sense of what this guy 184 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.399 looked like without his mask on. Now people are saying 185 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.559 this building's on the edge of campus, and eventually they 186 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.080 did get these sorts of images from people's ring cameras 187 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.320 and other, you know, other cameras in the neighborhood. 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She 220 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:29.799 had an illegal immigrant before her. I believe it was 221 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.679 on a domestic abuse charge. It was unrelated to immigration 222 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:38.120 related defenses. Nonetheless in the country illegally. Ice waiting patiently 223 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:40.919 in the lobby of the courthouse to take him into 224 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:46.320 custody for deportation proceedings, one would assume, and she decides 225 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:49.200 no she's got to play resistance hero and she smuggles 226 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.240 this guy out the back door. They catch him a 227 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.919 couple of blocks down the street. She gets charged with 228 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:59.200 a number of things, most especially felony obstruction of justice 229 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:03.440 and then also concealing an individual to prevent arrest. Now, 230 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.240 she was acquitted of the concealing, but convicted yesterday on 231 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:10.960 the felony obstruction. Normally that carries a five year sentence. 232 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.440 We'll see what happens in the sentencing here the jury 233 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:17.519 returning the verdict after deliberating for six hours. And Jim, 234 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:21.000 I've got to say, when this case happened and the 235 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:24.759 charges came down, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin is a pretty deep 236 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.519 blue area, and I wasn't sure what would happen. Could 237 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.399 you get a jury to actually convict if they feel strongly, 238 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.519 if anybody on that jury feels strongly in opposition to 239 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.639 the deportation policy. So kudos to that jury, at least 240 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:40.440 on the obstruction charge, for focusing on the facts of 241 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:44.120 the case and making sure that Judge Dugan here is 242 00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:46.000 not above the law just because she happened to wear 243 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:47.039 a robe for a lot of years. 244 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:50.840 Absolutely, I mean, I suppose the moral victory here for 245 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.200 the judge is that the jury took six hours and 246 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:57.200 not six minutes, since it seemed just straight up obvious 247 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:00.440 the facts of the case were not in dispute. The 248 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.480 only way you could make a defense of her is 249 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:06.759 to say, well, yes, but she believes that the law 250 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:09.600 that the ICE agents were attempting to be enforced was 251 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:12.480 immoral and is wrong, and they say a look for 252 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:15.720 jury nullification. Instead, it sounds like her legal defense was 253 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:21.039 that she was never intentionally obstructing the ICE agents, which 254 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:25.200 is like, I don't. I'm just picturing the entire jury 255 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:30.039 just saying come on, so again, this should have taken 256 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:32.360 six minutes. But nonetheless, Now, the other thing which I 257 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:34.799 think is worth you know, remembering here is at the time, 258 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.120 the coverage of it in a whole bunch of media 259 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:42.720 was that the Trump administration had starting started arresting judges 260 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:45.519 it didn't like, and this was an assault on the 261 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:48.200 independent judiciary and all that stuff. The idea is that 262 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.279 there was no actual criminal activity on the part of 263 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:53.879 this judge that would warrant such a case. Minnesota Tina 264 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:57.080 Smith saying, quote, if Cash Patel and Donald Trump don't 265 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:00.200 like a judge, they think they can arrest them. Know, 266 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.279 if Trump and Patel had anything to do with the 267 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:04.320 you know, we're even you know, notified of it until 268 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.799 it happened. But like, no, like this, that's not what 269 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:10.240 this case was about at all. Democratic Senator Tammy Baldwin 270 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:13.639 of Wisconsin, the president's administration arresting as sitting judge is 271 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.480 a gravely serious and drastic move. Well, yeah, because that's 272 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:18.600 what happens when you do when the judge breaks the law, 273 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:21.799 and it threatens to breach the various separations of power. 274 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:25.000 Separation of power doesn't mean judges are immune from criminal law. 275 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:27.440 You can't break the law if you're a judge. In fact, 276 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.120 if anything, you're really expected to uphold the law because 277 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:33.399 you're one of the people who upholds the law. Amy Klobuchar, 278 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:36.320 the administration's arrest of assisting judge sitting judge in Wisconsin 279 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.200 is a drastic move that threatens the rule of law. No, 280 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:42.399 it upholds the rule of law because the judge broke 281 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:45.799 it and a jury was convinced of this. So it 282 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.799 was all partisan nonsense. It was all hand waving away 283 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:52.279 criminal acts by the judge, an attempt to demonize the FBI, 284 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.320 and the administration. Justice has been done here. This is 285 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:57.759 really good, This is really satisfying. I wonder if any 286 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:00.759 of these Democratic senators want to weigh in now say, oopsie, 287 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.000 never mind, I guess you know, I guess you really 288 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:04.879 did break the law. This wasn't really an attack on 289 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:09.879 the independent judiciary. Blah blah blah. So satisfying, but also 290 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:12.639 kind of a little bit infuriating that the judge thinks 291 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:14.480 she could thought she could do this, thought she could 292 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:16.960 get away with it, and that so many Democrats and 293 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:20.759 chunk of the media rushed to her aid to hand 294 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:23.879 wave away the fact that she did something blatantly illegal 295 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:26.840 because they really couldn't stand the administration's policies. 296 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:30.960 No, that's exactly right, and hopefully it disabuses any other 297 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:34.519 judges of similar ideas if they have an illegal immigrant 298 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:37.320 in their courtroom. I mean, she's got a guy not 299 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:40.720 convicted of whatever assault charges he was in there for 300 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:43.879 in the first place. But it's not exactly that. You're 301 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.639 you know, letting the valedictorian out, and even then it 302 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.720 would still be violating the law clearly. And at the 303 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:51.960 end of your peace on this in the Jolt today, 304 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:55.600 you quote New York Times columnist David Brooks, who is 305 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:58.840 on PBS and said that Dugan's alleged actions this is 306 00:15:58.879 --> 00:15:59.559 back earlier. 307 00:15:59.320 --> 00:15:59.679 In the year. 308 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.919 Quote it strikes me as maybe something illegal, but it 309 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:07.240 also strikes me as something heroic. No, it's definitely illegal, 310 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:11.399 and it's not heroic. Breaking the law is not heroic, 311 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:13.200 especially in this case. 312 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:16.039 Not to hear at all credit here was half right. 313 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:18.279 The illegal part. 314 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:19.000 Is definitely illegal. 315 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:23.279 Jury did not buy the heroic argument. Yeah, it just 316 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:26.759 is is a general sense of like we've we've talked 317 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:28.519 about I think was it was it Mark Levin who 318 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.240 wrote are robed masters? Right? In this idea of people 319 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:33.840 legislating from the bench, you know this this sense of 320 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.320 judges believe that, you know, because of this, they are 321 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:42.240 to quote the notable jurist Judge dread As performed by 322 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:47.879 Sylvester Saloon, that that basically they once you're once you 323 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:49.879 have the black robe on, you decide what the law is. No, 324 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:52.000 that's not the casis. By the way, if a judge 325 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:55.600 wanted to say to Ice, I'm I'm holding court, I 326 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.240 am you know this person is on trial in front 327 00:16:57.240 --> 00:16:59.639 of me for an unrelated thing. Don't arrest this person 328 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.759 in my that strikes me as fair. Right, you can't 329 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:05.000 arrest in the courthouse. That does not strike me as fair. 330 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:07.960 And for obvious reasons, law enforcement loves, and I says, 331 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:10.759 love to arrest somebody in courthouses because they've already been 332 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:13.160 through a magnetometer. You know, this person doesn't have a knife. 333 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:14.599 You know, this person doesn't have a gun. You know, 334 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:17.680 like courthouses are great places to arrest people because they're 335 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:19.519 already in the courthouse. It's a short trip, you know, 336 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.759 So just it just seemed like a that in the end, 337 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:28.039 the judges don't like what the law says and therefore 338 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:30.160 believe they can overrule it. But that's not the role 339 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:31.480 of judiciary in this country. 340 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.960 That's exactly it well said. And we're gonna talk more 341 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:39.440 about how legal immigrants are benefiting from public officials who 342 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:42.039 aren't doing their jobs, all right, But before we do that, 343 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:45.799 let's talk about your liver. Gotta stay healthy. I know 344 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:47.599 some people are gonna spike the egg now. I get 345 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:50.000 the holiday parties and other things are going to be 346 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.440 passed around, maybe, but you know, try to try to 347 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:55.720 keep it all in proportion, you know, you know, it's 348 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:58.519 easier than fixing a problem not having the problem in 349 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:01.400 the first place. So moderation, first of all, is a 350 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:02.839 good part of that. 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An illegal immigrant from 378 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:31.720 l Salvador was arrested Wednesday after police say he shot 379 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:35.160 a man to death inside arrest in Virginia home, just 380 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:38.920 one day after being released from jail. Authorities identified the 381 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.440 suspect as twenty three year old Marvin Morales Ortes, who 382 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:46.799 Ice confirmed is in the country illegally. Fairfax County police 383 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:50.720 launched a manhunt after the shooting, eventually apprehending him following 384 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:55.119 a search involving drones, canine units, and helicopters. Morales Ortes 385 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:59.000 had been released from jail Tuesday after prosecutors drop charges 386 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:03.359 stemming from an alleged gun brandishing and assault case. By Wednesday, 387 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:05.640 police say he was back on the street and allegedly 388 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:09.359 committed a homicide. Fairfax County Police later disclosed they had 389 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:13.079 obtained an emergency custody order to detain morales or Tes 390 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.480 after his release, but were unable to locate him before 391 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:20.279 the order expired. Court records indicate that morales or Tes 392 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:22.920 had been charged with at least seven crimes in Fairfax 393 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.279 County since twenty twenty. So, Jim, the guy's got seven 394 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:28.599 crimes already on his record, or at least arrested for 395 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:31.960 seven crimes. The prosecutor again, we got an assault in 396 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.119 a brandishing of open Eh, We're not gonna do anything. 397 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:36.599 We'll just let him go. Ice tries to issue a 398 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:38.680 hey hold on to this guy, We're coming. We know 399 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:42.240 you've got him in custody. No gotta let him go. Sorry, Ice, 400 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:45.039 And then this guy's roommate ends up dead. Well done, 401 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.880