WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:02.520 Welcome to Katie r. 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:04.799 H Garden line with Skip Rictor. 3 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:08.199 It's crazy here. 4 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:15.080 Gas can use a shrimp. You just watch him as 5 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:20.519 we'll go. Gassies and gas. 6 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:24.480 Many good things to sup bat basic in bringing the 7 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:29.120 glassies and gas. And again you Davos clubs back making 8 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:35.439 there not a sid credit the glasses and gas, the 9 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:38.479 sun beam and between. 10 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:41.000 The gasses and gas. 11 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:46.759 First starting and treating. 12 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:48.240 Gas. 13 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:49.039 Well. 14 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:54.320 Good morning, gardeners, Good morning, and I hope you're having 15 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:58.479 a great morning so far. That would include one cup 16 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:02.640 of coffee, some piece of quiet while your while your 17 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.000 brain fully kicks into gear. 18 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:04.280 Right. 19 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:06.760 I don't know. Some people wake up and their mourning people. 20 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.120 I used to have a dorm or not a dorm 21 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:13.120 apartment roommate in college that was a morning person. Oh 22 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:17.319 my gosh, just about killed me. I just killed them 23 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:22.239 because I was like, okay, let's an hour from now, 24 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:26.680 let's try to start talking. Anyway. We're glad you're here 25 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:28.480 this morning. I don't know if you're a morning person 26 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:31.000 or not, but we're gonna be talking gardening today. If 27 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:33.719 you want to give me a call and maybe ask 28 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.079 a question something that's of interest to you'd help you 29 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:39.400 have a more bountiful garden, a more beautiful landscape, and 30 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:42.519 of course more fun in the process. Well seven one 31 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:46.359 three two one two ktr h seven to one three 32 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:52.359 two one two ktrh. Chented Forest is garden center down 33 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:54.719 there in the Richmond Rosenberg area. In fact, to be 34 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:58.200 a little more specific, it's on FM twenty seven fifty nine. 35 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:01.079 If you're in Richmond, you're heading up towards Sugarland Way, 36 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:04.799 you know, coming up fifty nine. Then it's off to 37 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:07.280 the right on FM twenty seven to fifty nine. It 38 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.000 is a great place to visit. By the way, they 39 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:13.000 got big beautiful shade trees and so walking out there, 40 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:14.759 even on a hot day, it's just a it's a 41 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.840 pleasant to be out and about and shopping and seeing 42 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:20.120 all the cool stuff they have. And they definitely have 43 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:22.919 a lot of great stuff, lots of plants to support 44 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:27.599 bees and butterflies and hummingbirds, just beautiful plants from color 45 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:34.080 to things like herbs and vegetables to beautiful really just 46 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.759 outstanding flowering shade trees, plants that have foliage. You know, 47 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:41.400 right now that it's getting hot, we're thinking about shade, 48 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:43.960 and they've got you covered on all kinds of things 49 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:44.960 that thrive in shade. 50 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:45.159 You know. 51 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:47.680 One of my favorite is a turk cap. It's a 52 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:52.639 native Texas native, very very hardy. Tracks hummingbirds like crazy. 53 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:56.039 They love those red tubuler balloons that it has and 54 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:59.120 it's just tough. I've got one in the backyard. I 55 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:02.280 never do anything to it except at the end of winter. 56 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:04.879 Cut all the top growth back is because it comes 57 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:07.719 back out of the ground again. It makes a nice, 58 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:12.680 nice shrub. The firebush the compact compact form of firebush 59 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:17.120 called compacta. It's a little smaller than regular fire bushes. Rockrose, 60 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:21.680 rockrose is not a rose. It's more kin to hibiscus 61 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:25.840 and okra and things like that cotton plant for example. 62 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:28.560 They're all in the same family. Rock Rose is beautiful, 63 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:33.280 little pink flowers, really nice Mexican petunia like Katie, little 64 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:37.319 compact mounting type. They've got all of those there at 65 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:41.479 Enchanted Forests. Now, if you what I would recommend you 66 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.400 do is go to the website number one. It's awesome. 67 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:46.560 See everything you need to see, contact numbers, where it's located, 68 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:52.039 all of that, and that is Enchanted Forest, Richmond, TX 69 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:56.759 dot com. Enchanted Forest Richmond, TX. Dot com. They are 70 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.599 open Monday through Saturday the summer hours eight am to 71 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.599 five and on Sunday from ten am to four pm. 72 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.960 The Enchanted Forest. They've got you covered on every kind 73 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.719 of plant for every season that we have. And boy, 74 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:12.080 if if you are looking to make some shade, they 75 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:14.400 have some great shade trees too. By the way, you 76 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.839 need to go check those out. Best time flying tree 77 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:20.319 was forty years ago. Second best times today. You can 78 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:25.040 get it done right there at Enchended Forest. So I 79 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:28.519 in my yard, I've been fixing a gate. I had 80 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:32.040 a gate that was hanging a little bit, just kind 81 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:33.680 of sagging a little bit, and I said, I'm gonna 82 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:37.519 go fix it. So I took the gate off and 83 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.600 I grabbed onto one of the posts and when I 84 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:43.639 grabbed onto it, it moved and I heard a crack. 85 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:46.000 Now a person should not be able to reach up 86 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.000 with one arm and pull a little bit on a 87 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:51.439 post and it cracks. That means that thing is about 88 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:55.879 twenty years too old. So I got to reset posts 89 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:58.360 and get the gate set and everything like that. Our 90 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.959 grand dog is visiting and the dog likes to wander, 91 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:05.199 and so if I don't keep that gate firmly closed. 92 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:07.480 We get to go up and down the street finding 93 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:09.360 the rain dogs that we're not going to do that anymore. 94 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:13.439 Now that I've got that gate fixed, I appreciate that 95 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:18.519 very much. The rain that we had has kind of 96 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.279 settled off for a little bit. You know, we've got 97 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:23.879 we got the summer cycle. We're going to be entering 98 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:27.720 where rains are fewer and further between. And what happens 99 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:31.279 when we get rain the clay soils that are kind 100 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:33.120 of predominant in this region. I know a lot of 101 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:35.920 you have sands and loams and other things, but a 102 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:38.079 lot of clay soils along the Gulf coast. In fact, 103 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.800 they gave it our local name. It's called Houston black clay. 104 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:46.439 That's the official soul scientist's name for the black clays 105 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.639 we have down here. When they get wet, they swell. 106 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.639 When they get dry, they shrink. And you know, from 107 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:54.560 a gardener's standpoint, not so much of a deal, because 108 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:58.480 we can keep them evenly moist by watering them. But 109 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:02.319 around your house the tree roots pumping all the water 110 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:05.480 out of the soil around the house, that makes that 111 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:10.519 wet dry cycle worse. It exacerbates it. It makes it. 112 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:13.279 You know, it gets drier and more, and then it 113 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:15.800 gets wet, and then it gets very dry again, and 114 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:18.959 that causes the problems we have with our foundations. It's 115 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:22.000 why you go through parts of Houston and in the 116 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:25.240 summer they're fixing water lines because the soil is moving 117 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:29.839 so much. It's literally breaking water lines deep underground in 118 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.360 a bad drought. And then the sidewalks and the driveways 119 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:35.639 and everything are moving, and it just it is what 120 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:38.959 it is. And so if you are thinking you may 121 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.480 have a foundation problem, and that would be for example, 122 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:46.560 you see cracks in the brick on the outside, typically 123 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.120 at the corner of a windows where you most see them, 124 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:52.079 but that's not the only place. Maybe you have sheet 125 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:54.800 rock cracks inside or doors that are sticking. Those are 126 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:56.680 all signs you need to have someone take a look 127 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.879 at it and fix my slab. Foundation repair. They're the 128 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:01.959 folks that can do it. Ty Strickland's been doing this 129 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:06.399 for twenty three years. He's an eighty Estonian, fifth generation Texan, 130 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:10.439 and he knows our soil. He knows how to assess 131 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:15.279 and fix foundation problems. The website just just go there. 132 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:20.519 Fix myslab dot com. Fix myslab dot com. If you 133 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:22.759 want to get him, a call to eight one two 134 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:26.160 FI five forty nine forty nine. He shows up on time, 135 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:30.279 he fixes it right, he charges a fair price fixmislab 136 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:33.000 dot com two eight one two f five forty nine 137 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:38.040 forty nine. He knows what he is doing, that is 138 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.800 for sure. I was visiting with somebody from Ace Hardware 139 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:43.920 the other day and I have a barbecue pit that 140 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:47.319 I got at Ace Hardware and we are enjoying it. 141 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.120 In fact, we have plans tomorrow. We got a bunch 142 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.079 of family coming over and we're going to be doing 143 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:54.120 some major barbecue in all through the day. It's a 144 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:56.000 lot of fun. But you know, you go to ACE, 145 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.680 and I don't care what brand you're looking for. If 146 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:02.560 it's a quality brand, the top quality brands that exist, 147 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:04.560 they've got them there. You know you're gonna find Big 148 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:06.959 Green Egg there. You're going to find Tragger, You're going 149 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:09.399 to find Rectech, You're going to find Weber and so 150 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:11.759 on and all the things you need to go with it. 151 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:16.360 And so for your weekend cookouts and stuff, it's your 152 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.480 one stop shop. You know, if you got a pellet grill, 153 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.279 you need the pellets. They got those there, of course 154 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.480 they do. They have everything else you need and for 155 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:25.279 your lawn, the fertilizers that we're talking about, by the way, 156 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:28.000 they do have propane too, where if you've got a 157 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:32.440 gas grill to you can do that. Now, everything that 158 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:36.120 you would look at to make that outdoor area just 159 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:38.679 a wonderful place to hang out, to make your indoor 160 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:41.279 areas more beautiful, you're going to find it Today's hardware. 161 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.200 Oh yeah, and then all the hardware stuff that a 162 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:46.879 hardware store has. They've got all that, but so much more. 163 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.080 If you are up in the north side Spring Ace 164 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.519 on Spring Cyprus. Northeast is Crosby Ace on twenty one 165 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:56.840 hundred down southwest is Plantation Ace out there on Mason 166 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.039 Road in Richmond Rosenberg. You go over to Champions Ace 167 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:04.120 on Spring Cyprus up northwest or down on the west side. 168 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:07.159 Langham Creek Ace, by the way, is up there on 169 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:10.440 five point twenty nine by Copperfield. Those are just a 170 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:12.519 few of the miny ace Hardware's And here's how you 171 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:18.039 find yours. Ace Hardware Texas dot com. Acehardware Texas dot Com. 172 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.399 We're gonna take a quick break when we come back Melbourne, 173 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.399 Paarland you'll be our first s up. Good morning, gardeners. 174 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:28.080 We are we are glad you're back with us. Listen, 175 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.399 if you are looking to put in some plants that 176 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.759 can survive the weather here, you know that summer it's coming, 177 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:38.240 you can. As native plants specializes, I mean, they have 178 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:40.240 every kind of plant in the world, native, non native, 179 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.200 you name it. But the best selection in natives you're 180 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.919 gonna find anywhere is right there in Buchanans Native Plants 181 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.600 in the Heights on Eleventh Street. Just go to the 182 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:53.440 website Buchanansplants dot Com. While you're there, sign up for 183 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:57.480 the newsletter. Get that newsletter. Make sure you visit the 184 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:01.799 website because there's always good timely information on what to do. 185 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:06.720 They have an excellent selection, by the way of some beautiful, 186 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:10.559 beautiful plants that are natives that you probably haven't seen 187 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:14.399 before or grown before. That's where you find them. Buchanans 188 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:17.399 Native Plants, as well as all the fertilizers I talk 189 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:20.000 about here on garden Line and everything else you need 190 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:23.600 for success. If summer heat is driving you inside, you 191 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.840 won't believe the selection house plants and succulents and other 192 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:30.559 things that are there at Buchanans. It's the place to 193 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:36.960 go for a landscape that survives the insects, diseases, heat, drought, coal, rain, 194 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:40.159 whatever we have here, the plants that are from here 195 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:41.960 that know how to survive it, you're going to find 196 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:46.159 their Buchanans native plants. Let's head out now to pair 197 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.639 Land and if I can get my here we go. 198 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.480 Hey Melboyne, welcome to garden line. Hey Skip, how's are 199 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:59.759 going doing good? Thank you? I've got a question. I've 200 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:01.080 got two peach trees. 201 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:04.440 One of them is a red baron, the other one 202 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:09.679 is a mid pride. They've both kind of gotten pretty 203 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.679 much higher than managemb One of the bid pride is 204 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.679 about ten foot, the red baron's about eight. 205 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:20.639 So kind of a double question. When is the best 206 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:22.799 time to cut them back? 207 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:27.440 And how much can I do it for a manageable tree. 208 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:33.000 And then also, this year, for whatever reason, most a 209 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.960 lot of the peaches on it were about the size 210 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.559 of a ping pong ball, And last year they had 211 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.159 very good sized peaches on it. You know, it's not 212 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.559 overloaded with them, and I feed them the Microlife orange bag. 213 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:51.120 So those are the questions. 214 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:59.799 Okay, Well, when you say their ping pong ball s 215 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.960 eye is ping pong ball size when they're ripe? Or 216 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:05.799 is that just what they are right right now? 217 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:06.120 Right? 218 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:13.960 Yeah? Okay? That is small when yeah, yeah, Usually that's 219 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:17.720 a function of too many fruit for the for the 220 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:24.519 tree branch to be able to fully size up. I 221 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.240 don't know, you know what the spacing is and stuff, 222 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.799 But peaches will set about oh ten times more fruit 223 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.360 than they need in a good year, and we just 224 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:37.120 have to thin all the extras off in order to 225 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.799 have the best size. If you can keep your peaches 226 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:43.879 about you know, open up your hand wide and from 227 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:45.720 the tip of your little finger to the tip of 228 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:48.039 your thumb, that's about how far you want peaches to 229 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:51.399 be apart. If the leaves are not large and healthy 230 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:53.399 and there's plenty of them, it's going to cause the 231 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:58.840 same problem as having too many peaches. You just those 232 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:03.679 are the keys. Lots of good sunlight too. If usually 233 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.200 this doesn't happen within one year Melbourne, but as trees 234 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:10.399 start to shade your trees, that will affect fruit set 235 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:14.759 and and development. Those are a few things. Make sure 236 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:20.279 it has adequate water. Yeah, do the trees look healthy 237 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:22.200 in general when you just stand back and look at 238 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:23.840 the foliage and everything. 239 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:28.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And the rit mid Pride has 240 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:32.480 probably got about a three inch or maybe a little 241 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:36.320 bit more diameter trunk, and the Red Barren probably got 242 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.440 a three inch trunk. And this is the first year 243 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:40.960 they've ever done that, you know. 244 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:45.519 Yeah, Well, I don't know. I'd wait and watch then. 245 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.000 I mean, obviously you know how to grow peach, and 246 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:54.840 so those are the things that cause yeah, well, those 247 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:57.360 are the things that cause lack of fruit size, the 248 00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:59.679 things I just went over. But as far as the 249 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.799 tree cutting it back, you can cut back a tree 250 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.679 some anytime you need to, pretty much. We try to 251 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.720 do the major printing at the end of a winter 252 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:15.639 before the tree leaves out sometime in the winter. If 253 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:19.600 you are well going to do something pretty severe, you 254 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:21.799 may want to start on some of the printing. Now. 255 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:27.039 Yeah, that was kind of my question, like if maybe 256 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:30.399 I'll cut back maybe about a third of the tree 257 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:35.120 and encourage the new growth to start growing now. But 258 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.320 I didn't know when it was the best time to 259 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:37.799 do that. 260 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:38.240 You know. 261 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:42.840 Yeah, So when you do a major prone back, that 262 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:45.840 tree is just going to send up shoots everywhere and 263 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:47.639 it's going to be a mess, and so you're going 264 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.480 to have to work with it a while. And when 265 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:52.840 shoots are coming out toward the center of the tree 266 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:55.399 or you know that you want to keep the center open. 267 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:58.399 If you can, you just have to say no, cut 268 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:00.559 those off and leave the ones are going in the 269 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:03.519 direction you want them to go. Uh, if you if 270 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:06.159 you do it, maybe a third of it now you 271 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.840 can do that. But the main thing you're wanting to 272 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:12.080 do is is build a bunch of branches where you 273 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:16.279 want them, not where they are now, over the months 274 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:19.639 to come. And so that's going to be a kind 275 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:22.000 of gradual thing. Now, if you didn't in the at 276 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.240 the end of winter the best pruning time, it'd be 277 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:26.879 easiest on the tree, and the wounds would heal the fastest. 278 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:31.120 But then you would just have you would basically be 279 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:34.559 giving up most of next year's crop, because that all 280 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:36.440 sets at the end of summer and in the fall. 281 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.240 So if you can do some now and get some 282 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:42.000 of the little you know, peaches set fruit on the 283 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:45.519 little twiggy growth, the little branches that are uh, you know, 284 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:47.919 smaller than a straw, a drinking straw. I mean they're 285 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.679 they're they're small. Half the size of a straw. That's 286 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:53.320 that's where the fruiting comes on last year. So in 287 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:55.720 order to have fruit next year, you need to prune 288 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.960 now and then met probably prune again by the time 289 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.639 we get to Actually, no, you're not gonna have time 290 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:05.519 for another one, but prine now, and then the shoots 291 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:08.039 that grow have the ability to set for it for 292 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.159 next year as you kind of work it back to 293 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:11.840 where you want it. 294 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:15.840 Yeah, that was kind of my thinking to do that, 295 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:19.559 so it would have some type of fruit next year, 296 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:21.440 so you could. 297 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.519 Yeah, and uh, just remember it's. 298 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:28.360 Better to put a five dollar tree in a twenty 299 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:30.759 dollars hole than a twenty. 300 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.559 Dollars three a five dollars hole. Ain't that the truth 301 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:36.559 I tried got to get that's all part of that. 302 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:39.279 I always say brown stuff before green stuff. It's getting 303 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:42.679 getting the soil right is so important. Yeah, yeah, I 304 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:49.720 believe he said that. I'm sure he did. Yeah, Well, 305 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:52.440 if you take care, appreciate that, if you'd like to 306 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:54.840 give me a call. Seven one three two one two. 307 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:57.720 K t r H seven one three two one two. 308 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:01.679 K t r H has a number of different fertilizer 309 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:03.720 products on the market, quite a few as a matter 310 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:06.319 of fact, they've got one called Sweet Green that's their 311 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:10.720 organic line. It is a eleven percent nitrogen, which is 312 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:14.200 really high for an organic product, but eleven percent nitrogen 313 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:18.359 fertilizer is typically used by folks for the lawn. And 314 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:20.839 you know, if you were to do soil testing, what 315 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:23.720 you're going to find is, while the while sun needs 316 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:26.559 all these different nutrients, they are all important, when it 317 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.640 comes to turf grass, the main thing it needs is nitrogen. 318 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:35.039 And so a lot of times I will switch and 319 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:39.640 just do a nitrogen application only occasionally, because if I'm 320 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:43.319 returning my clippings and recycling nutrients, I'm keeping most of 321 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:46.279 this stuff around. Sweet Green is great for that. You 322 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:52.559 know we're talking about basically with the eleven percent nitrogen, 323 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:54.920 just a really good quick boost. I had a neighbor 324 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:57.400 to use some Sweet Green last year and he was 325 00:17:57.480 --> 00:17:59.200 talking to me all about three weeks ago and he 326 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:02.079 was saying, Man, that stuff just works. I mean it 327 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:06.240 greens up and it looks good. Yes, that's true. It 328 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:10.279 is a quality product from the folks at Microsoft and 329 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:15.079 Microsoft Oh my gosh, I'm not even a computer guy. 330 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:21.440 Nitrofoss anyway, you're gonna find nitrofoss products many places, you know, 331 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:25.440 I was just talking about Enchanted Forest. They carry night 332 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:27.960 foss products down there at in Channon Forest. You can 333 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:30.079 find it at Ace Hardware up there, and sick A Ranch. 334 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:32.319 If you go up to Arbor Gate, if you go 335 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:33.920 to Plants for All Seeds, if you go to you 336 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:36.279 know RCW all these nurseries and things, a lot of 337 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:40.240 those folks will carry us some nitrofoss products there as well. 338 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:43.880 So just give them, give them a check and ask 339 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:49.079 sweet green, the organic sweet green from nitrofoss. You're listening 340 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:51.079 to Guardline, I'm your host, Skip Richter. If you'd like 341 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:52.960 to give me a call seven one three two one 342 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:55.960 two ktr H. We're gonna go now to Kingwood and 343 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:59.599 talk to Salvator. Am I saying that right is at 344 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.480 Salvat all right, Salvator Salvator. 345 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:07.759 Okay, okay, hey's my help. Uh yeah, I got a 346 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:12.319 couple of citrus trees in thirty five gallons uh containers. 347 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.880 On one of them, I've got a really big, huge 348 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:20.160 climbing the sides of the container, a fire ant hill. Well, 349 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:22.519 my question to you is I have some granules in 350 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:25.880 the garage that work very well, when I hurt the 351 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:28.920 tree by you know, sort of maybe putting a hole 352 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:32.400 into the hill and just adding some of that. Will 353 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:34.559 that do anything to the tree or the fruits that 354 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:35.720 are growing on it right now? 355 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:40.799 Is this a is this a bait product? Or is 356 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:43.039 this just a mound killers? 357 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:46.480 Is just a mile killer from Bayer? The granules you 358 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:48.599 just spray out from your back and I just want 359 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:50.960 to make sure I have limes on it right now, 360 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:52.519 and I don't want to ruin the limes or kill 361 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:53.279 the tree or anything. 362 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.839 Yeah, So there's there's two. There's two answers to your question. 363 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:01.319 The correct and right answer, according to the law is 364 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:03.599 the label is the law, and I can't tell you 365 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.359 to use a product contrary to what the label says. 366 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:11.880 That's a big no no. So if it's not on 367 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.559 the label, don't do it. The other answers does it 368 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:16.799 work and will it hurt something? And that's a whole 369 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:21.279 nother kind of thing. But bottom line is if you 370 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.759 look on that label and it doesn't say fruit, trees 371 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:27.559 or citrus, then I would not do it. There is 372 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:31.119 a product, a bait product called come and Get It 373 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:34.680 that is from Fertilom, and it works very well, and 374 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:37.079 it's organic, and it happens to have a label for 375 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:41.200 use in edible like gardens and stuff, so you could 376 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:46.200 use that one then. But anything that's labeled for those 377 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:49.440 killing the mound is not that hard, you know. Pretty much, 378 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.200 any decent insecticide you drenched down into the mound is 379 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:57.319 going to kill them. But the baits are the better 380 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:01.880 long term solution to that. So that's kind of where 381 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:04.000 we are, Salvator. I've got to I've got to go 382 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:06.559 immediately to break hang on. I'll come back to you 383 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:10.039 when we come back. Glad to have you on garden 384 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:11.680 line with us today. If you're back, if you'd like 385 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:14.559 to call in ask a question seven one three two 386 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:18.480 one two ktr H seven one three two one two 387 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:21.759 fifty eight seventy four if you like to die by 388 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:23.920 the numbers, had a lady one time bus at me 389 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:26.720 forgiven just letters, because then you got to kind of 390 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.599 go through your phone buttons and find out what number 391 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.319 that letter is. 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Do 402 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:07.720 you just want to revamp a bed, put in new plants, 403 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:10.240 plants that are drought tolerant, heat tolerant, things like that. 404 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:13.119 Do you need lighting? Do you need irrigation? Do you 405 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:16.319 need drainage to be improved? Pierce Scapes does it all? 406 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:18.640 Go to the website, look at it, look at what 407 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:20.759 they do. See the quality of work they can do. 408 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:26.119 Piercescapes dot com. Two eight one three seven oh fifty sixty. 409 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:32.319 I was talking about some soil of somebody the other day, 410 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:36.519 and they had gotten some soil products from Nature's Way Resources. 411 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:38.920 Now Nature's Way, for those who aren't familiar, is the 412 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.720 place up Interstate forty five almost to Toumbo in fact, 413 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:45.480 where fourteen eighty eight comes in from Magnolia and HiT's 414 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:49.559 forty five across the railroad tracks is Nature's Way. So 415 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:51.640 if you're going north, you turn right across over the 416 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:57.519 tracks and at Sherbrook Circle the website Nature'sway Resources dot Com. 417 00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:01.519 That's what you need to check out Nature's Way Resources 418 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:05.279 dot Com. Look at the products that they offer, so 419 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:07.920 many quality products. They take time to do it right, 420 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:11.400 and they've been doing this a long time, and they 421 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:13.839 know how to make things. If you need a blend, 422 00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:17.400 like for vegetables, or for fruit trees, or for roses 423 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:19.799 and other blooming plants, they've got all of those. Do 424 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:22.160 you need something for top dressing, Well, they've got the 425 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.759 fungal compost, which is excellent, by the way, over Friday 426 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:29.039 is Fungal Friday where you get ten percent off bags 427 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:32.720 twenty percent off bulk. They also have leaf mole compost, 428 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:36.400 which is outstanding for doing top dressing of your lawn. 429 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:38.119 You got some areas of lawn that are thin and 430 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:41.279 need a little boost, a lilaration, a little compost top 431 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:43.920 dressing on those and you can really turn them around. 432 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.079 And Nature's weighs the place to do that. Nature's Way 433 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:52.559 Resources dot Com makes it easy. So anyway, I was 434 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:54.960 telling you that earlier this week, I've been working on 435 00:23:55.160 --> 00:24:00.359 fixing a gate. I also am putting some dud's in 436 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:02.960 around the base of some trees. I'm tired of weed 437 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:05.599 eating around the base of a tree, trying to kill 438 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:07.279 the grass, so I just put a little small bed 439 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:09.599 in around it. Put some things there at the base 440 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:12.559 that can take the shade and do really well, and 441 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:14.960 anything it looks better. So kind of having some fun 442 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:19.160 with that. A couple of other projects going on the 443 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:24.440 orchard is needing my attention. My fruit trees are young, 444 00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:26.839 and so they always need a boost a fertilizer. So 445 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:29.359 if you're if you've got young fruit trees, and you 446 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.200 know the goal is to make a bigger tree pretty 447 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.720 fast so you can hang fruit on it, right, I mean, 448 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:39.279 you've got a little scrawny Charlie brown fruit tree. You're 449 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.200 not gonna put many peaches or apples or whatever kind 450 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.680 of fruits et ceterus and whatever on it. So you 451 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:47.160 want it to grow, and the way to get it 452 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.319 to grow is to give it a good quality fertilizer. 453 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.440 Standard lawn fertilizers work fine for fruit trees because they're 454 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:55.960 heavy in the nitrogen in they support that growth. But 455 00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.920 buy a fruit, a fruit tree fertilizer, but just give 456 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:01.799 one and do it. If you don't know how much 457 00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:04.880 fertilizer you use on a tree, go up to the 458 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:07.240 trunk and figure out how many inches across is it. 459 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:09.720 You know, if it's the size of let's say a broomstick, 460 00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.640 a broom handle, Well depends on what kind of broom handle, 461 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.559 but let's just say that's about an inch and a 462 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:19.240 half something like that. Well, for every inch of trunk diameter, 463 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:23.160 give it one or two cups of synthetic fertilizer, or 464 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:29.119 give it three to five cups of organic fertilizer. So 465 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:31.440 it just depends on which of the two you choose 466 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:34.920 to use. But that way you know exactly. So someone 467 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:37.359 was calling earlier and had some trees with the size 468 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.119 of a sense of a coke can, so roughly three 469 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:43.160 inches across, So that would be three to six cups 470 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:46.599 of synthetic spread out in an area all underneath the branches. 471 00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:49.960 Don't dump it at the bottom or essentially double that 472 00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:53.720 on organic spread out in that same area, working into 473 00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.799 the soil water. It didn't really good. Keep that tree growing, 474 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:02.039 keep training it to, don't let it listen. If you 475 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:05.680 get a new puppy and you don't train it at all, 476 00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:08.799 you're going to have a problem when that thing's a dog, right, 477 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.759 a big old dog. You gotta train your fruit trees. 478 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:15.359 You gotta point them in the direction you want them 479 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:17.039 to go. And life is so much better if you 480 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:21.440 do so. Fertilize them, get them growing, but train them. 481 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:26.279 Go online, go to the Aggi Horticulture website. It's Aggie Horticulture. 482 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:29.759 There's a fruit section and a publication on every fruit 483 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:31.839 tree you would grow here, and he tells you how 484 00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:35.000 to print it and do that. The earlier you start, 485 00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:37.000 the better. When you have to cut a tree way back, 486 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.039 that's a whole new operation, and you're going to set 487 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:44.240 yourself back in your production back in the process. I'm 488 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:48.240 going to head out to Pairland now and talk to Jessica. Hey, Jessica, 489 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:49.839 welcome to garden Line. 490 00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:52.799 Hie, thank you so much for taking my call. 491 00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:56.160 What's up? 492 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:02.759 I own a house forty five years and sixty years ago. 493 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.599 The neighbors that had lived there planted oak trees down 494 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:09.640 the property line and they said sold out in the 495 00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:13.240 city owns that property, but they're claiming the city is 496 00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.839 claiming that the church behind me owns Eastman there and 497 00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:19.640 they owned the tree, so nobody's claiming ownership of the trees. 498 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.319 I need to trim them back because of the leaves 499 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.759 of the branches have grown halfway over my house, and 500 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.240 I'm wondering, if I just trimmed my side, is it 501 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:31.160 going to kill the trees. 502 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.640 No, it won't kill the tree. Now, I'm not a lawyer, 503 00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.720 so what you really need here is a property lawyer 504 00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.680 to figure out whose trees those are and then to 505 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:44.480 tell you what you can and can't do on your 506 00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.319 side of the of the property. 507 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:53.720 I know city doesn't want to the city, I'm sorry, Yeah, 508 00:27:54.559 --> 00:28:00.799 go ahead. The city years ago or twelve years ago 509 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.960 can take responsibility for the roots growing close up under 510 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:08.960 my slab and they came out and cut the roots. 511 00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.839 But now the city that I'm talking to you is 512 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:13.160 kind of they don't own them. 513 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:20.799 Okay, Well, I'll just answer the horticultural part of the question, 514 00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:23.039 and that is if you prune branches back, it's not 515 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.359 going to kill the tree. So just prune as you 516 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.160 need to prune. Yeah. Now, you know, as far as 517 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.319 who owns a tree and legal stuff, that that's a 518 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.160 different that's a different picture. You know what I would 519 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.680 do is and if you are you thinking about having 520 00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.039 it done having somebody do. 521 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:46.400 It, well, my husband to do it yourself kind of guy. 522 00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.519 But that kind of scares me because I think I 523 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.559 need a tree company that has insurance that would be responsible. 524 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:52.599 If they died. 525 00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.079 Yeah, yeah, I would. Well, let me give you a 526 00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:59.119 phone number and y'all I can figure out what you 527 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:01.440 want to do with the phone number. Uh, it's Affordable 528 00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:05.240 Tree Service and it's seven to one three six nine 529 00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:09.559 nine two six six three. They do this all day long. 530 00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.839 They know how to prune properly. Uh, they can probably 531 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:15.759 answer your questions on you know, what you can and 532 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.240 can't do in terms of property how that all works. 533 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.000 But uh, they do trimming and feeding and everything. But 534 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.680 they can come out there and certainly this would be 535 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:27.200 just very easy for them just to do a proper 536 00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.119 prune job on those trees. But it's Affordable Tree eight 537 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.119 uh seven one three six nine nine two six sixty three. 538 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:37.519 When you call you, it's Martin Spoon Moore's company. You'll 539 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.119 probably talk to his mom. It's a family business, so uh, 540 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.960 just tell him you heard about on Guarden Line where 541 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:47.319 they're our customers are are our listeners? Are their their 542 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.319 priority customers there at Affordable Tree Service. 543 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:53.400 All right, thank you so much. 544 00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:59.920 Okay, thank you, good luck with that. Thank appreciate to call. 545 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.440 Just bye bye. All right, I'm gonna take a little 546 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.279 quick break here and we'll be back. Yes, that's actually 547 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.279 a song. It sounds like a jingle for a company. 548 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.519 Maybe pest Bros. Needs to pick that up as their jingle. 549 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:17.319 You know, best Bros. Is the company I talk about 550 00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:19.640 all the time. They cover the whole area. I mean 551 00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:21.880 from the up in the Woodlands down to Texas City 552 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:25.200 and Baytown across the Kadie. They do all kinds of stuff, 553 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:28.880 not just mosquitoes, but their mosquito bucket system is awesome. 554 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.160 I'm telling you, I have it, I use it. It's amazing. 555 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:36.160 And my neighbor the other day he said, I got 556 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.359 to get one of those because he was seeing benefits 557 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.160 actually at his house from my buckets that they work 558 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.839 that well. Pest Bros. Is the company you need to 559 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.200 call for anything. Termites, you know, cockroaches in the house. 560 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.079 You know, maybe your mother in law's visiting and she's 561 00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.039 screaming running around the house because there's cockroaches and so Okay, 562 00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.799 my wife says, if you're thinking about saying something, don't 563 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:06.279 say it because you've already crossed the line. So I'm 564 00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:08.480 gonna leave the mother in law and roaches come out 565 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.440 alone and just say call pest Bros. Two eight one 566 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.839 two o six forty six seventy two eight one two 567 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.240 o six forty six seventy for whatever bugs you well 568 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:25.279 with six legs dpestbros dot com dpestbros dot com. Let's go. 569 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:28.000 Let's go out to Parallel now and we are gonna 570 00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:30.720 speak with Archie. Hey, Archie, welcome to guard Line. 571 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:34.839 Warning you. Hey, a couple of mornings ago, I sent 572 00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.640 you a couple of photos. One was of a black 573 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:39.440 picked tree I have in my front yard that's forty 574 00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:42.480 five years old. And then the other one was think 575 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.000 some kind of bug that was on my patio. It 576 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.799 looked like it looked like a stick had a baby 577 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:51.079 ride in his back. Hey, it wasn't. I don't think 578 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.200 it was a sting bug, but I couldn't identify it. 579 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:55.799 I just disappeared and I don't see it. I haven't 580 00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.519 seen anything any more of them, but I thought it 581 00:31:58.559 --> 00:31:59.599 was a strange looking bug. 582 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:07.079 Uh Uh, let's see I don't see it was a yeah, 583 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:07.559 I think I do. 584 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:11.079 I think yeah, because you sent me some kind of 585 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:13.799 text that could you for permission? 586 00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:20.720 Uh to photos? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm looking. I'm seeing 587 00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.559 I can find it here, Archie. Uh go ahead and 588 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.400 tell me describe one of them again for me. What 589 00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:27.119 did it look like? 590 00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.599 The bug? Yeah, the of the tree. 591 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.480 I'm trying to find your photos. Okay, Oh, why you're 592 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:41.599 just not seeing it? I tell you. 593 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.519 I'm gonna give a shout out to Jorge down there 594 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:47.759 in Alvin. I went down there a couple of weeks 595 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:51.359 ago and got some drift roses from him and at 596 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:55.680 a hyberta really really nice roses. And for this time 597 00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:57.400 of the year, a lot of nurseries who have with 598 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.839 their roses optober you know, have black spot and everything 599 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.599 else on them. His his really in good shape. So 600 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:08.000 and he's a nice guy. I enjoyed my visit down there. 601 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.359 So give me a shout out. 602 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.880 Yeah, I'm glad to glad to know that it doesn't 603 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:19.359 surprise me. Or he's a great guy. They have great stuff. Yeah, 604 00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.440 well I'm not I'm not finding you can't find it. 605 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:28.039 We must if it's far back. Yeah, Okay, here we go. 606 00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.680 I see I see one that's aecht? 607 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:31.720 Yes? 608 00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:33.759 What was what was the other one about? 609 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:35.759 It was a bug? 610 00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:41.799 I may have to a long yes, I may, okay? 611 00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.240 And what was what was interesting about it? He had 612 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.200 a baby on its back, you know, about about the 613 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.759 fourth of its size. And it was just a really 614 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.160 unusual looking bug. I've never seen one like it. 615 00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.880 All right, let's do this. Let me. I'm gonna need 616 00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:00.240 some time to find this, so let's let me. We're 617 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.440 going to hit the top of the hour here pretty quick. Uh, 618 00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.039 could you call back if I find it, I'll talk 619 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.119 about it. But if we need to talk back and forth, 620 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.920 just call me back next hour if you would, and 621 00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:14.159 I'll be able to. Yeah. Right now, we're not getting anywhere, 622 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:16.880 but thank you. I'm going to put you put you 623 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:22.800 on hold. Go ahead, okay, all right? Yeah, I was 624 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.679 talking about pest bros. I'll find that. I'll find that 625 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.280 picture a little bit. A lot of emails come in 626 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.320 and sometimes kind of hard to keep up with them. 627 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.400 Have you ever been out to Nelson Nursery and Ruder 628 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:35.400 Garden out in Katie. You just head out to Katie 629 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.039 on Town Turn North on Katie Fort Ben Road, and 630 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.039 it's just up the street a little bit there. It 631 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.079 is an outstanding garden center. I mean, it's a destination 632 00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.239 guards if you're you know, we I like to think 633 00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:48.800 of it as this is your West Houston destination garden center. 634 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.440 Take friends with you, get out there. Uh. They have 635 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.480 all kinds of things, I mean, if everything from you know, 636 00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:58.599 landscape laying, a really nice selection of the perennial hibiscus, 637 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:02.280 a kind with the big white, pink or red blooms 638 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:05.559 that are dinner plate size. They have folks that know 639 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.639 what they're talking about. They can direct you and point 640 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.519 you in the right direction. Milk weeds for your and 641 00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:14.400 other plants for your pollinators, beautiful pottery, and of course 642 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:20.239 things for water, whether it's putting in a waterfall, putting 643 00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:24.559 in a disappearing fountain, one of those little, tall, not 644 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:29.000 necessarily little, but tall eurns that the water just goes 645 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.360 out of the top of and then recycles back in. 646 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.159 It's the place and you're gonna find the products you 647 00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.679 need to have success with your lawn and whatnot there 648 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:41.800 as well. Nelson Watergardens dot Com, Nelson Watergardens dot Com, 649 00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:46.239 Katie fort Benrod and boy, with the hot weather heating up, now, 650 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:48.280 what a great time to go out there and walk 651 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:52.119 among their beautiful shade trees and enjoy the sound of water. 652 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.800 Maybe you want to bring some of that home with you. 653 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.400 I know I do every time I'm around one of 654 00:35:57.440 --> 00:35:59.440 those water features. It's like I got to have me 655 00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:03.800 one of these. Someone was asking me. They were down 656 00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.039 I don't know what was it, Clear Lake City, somewhere 657 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.239 down in that whole area around there, asking me about 658 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.559 where can I get such and such fertilizer you talk 659 00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:13.760 about done here? And I said, well, League City Feed, 660 00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.480 League City Feeds in League City there are a few 661 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:19.519 blocks south of Highway ninety six, and so you know, 662 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:21.039 they were kind of trying to find, well, where do 663 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.199 you get I can't remember which one it was, which fertilizer, 664 00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:26.679 but it was like they had nitrofis they have as 665 00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.039 a might, they have microlife. You know, they got Nelson 666 00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.239 plant food. They got you covered on all of that. 667 00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.440 If you want airlom solves by the bag, they got 668 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.840 that too. There at League City feed. It's just an 669 00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.880 old time feed store, been around over forty years now, 670 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:41.679 and they carry the bags out for you know, the 671 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:44.119 old time service that you would expect from back in 672 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:45.840 the day. Maybe you went to a feed store with 673 00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:49.719 a parent back when you were growing up, you remember that, Well, 674 00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.000 this is what we're talking about. League City Feed. The 675 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.320 Thunderbergs have been operating this thing for over forty years now. 676 00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:58.760 They're open Monday through Saturday, nine to six. You can 677 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.119 swing by after work, closed on Sundays. Here's a phone 678 00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.639 number two eight one three three two sixteen twelve. So 679 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.079 that's where you get the fertilizer down there. They cover 680 00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:11.559 that whole area. Of fact. I think of them as 681 00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.840 the hometown beach store for Santa Fe and Dickinson in 682 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.199 League City, and Webster and Clare Lake and Lamarx and 683 00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:22.320 Leone Elkaminarreal, all those communities down there. They serve that 684 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.840 area just a few blocks south of Highway or of 685 00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.480 Highway ninety six on Highway three right there in League City. 686 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:33.840 So if you if you are have not done a 687 00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.719 summer fertilization, it's time to go ahead and get that done. 688 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.480 And you can make sure that you get your products 689 00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.639 down watermen really good. Follow the label. You know, the 690 00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:47.039 slow releases are the better choice, but you can use 691 00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:49.880 an immediate release. You just do it in small applications, 692 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.719 repeated over time, so you kind of make it slow yourself. 693 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.000 If you haven't been to the arbor Gate recently, you 694 00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:59.480 need to go check out what they've got going there. 695 00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:01.920 By the way, a lot of you love their one 696 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.880 two three easy system. And that is the food for 697 00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:08.920 anything with roots, a food for anything with roots, and 698 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.679 it is a soil that is organic. It has expanded 699 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.599 shale in it, and it's a compost. The three products 700 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.280 food soil composts, all organic, all available also by bulk 701 00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:25.039 from Arburgate. Check out the arbor Gate. It's west of 702 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.440 Tomball on twenty nine to twenty. You've probably been there before. 703 00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.519 Today'd be a good day to get out there and 704 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.320 visit it because when you go, your jaw's going to 705 00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:35.519 hit the ground all the beautiful plants and things that 706 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.639 they have. It's time for me to quit talking. So 707 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:40.800 we're gonna go away and I'll be right back with 708 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:47.760 your calls after the hour. All right, folks, welcome back 709 00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:49.800 to the guard Line. Good to have you back with 710 00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:56.079 us here. Archie. If you're still listening, I am not 711 00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:58.480 finding the picture. I don't know why you can't find it. 712 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:00.920 In the emails. Send it me again if you would. 713 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:03.000 If you got those photos, and then we can give 714 00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:06.559 me a call. We'll talk about them. Anyway. You're listening 715 00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:08.760 to garden Line and we're here to help you have 716 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:12.159 a bountiful garden and a beautiful landscape and hopefully more 717 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.679 fun in the process. That's kind of the deal, right, 718 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:19.360 We want you to enjoy gardening because gardening is a very, 719 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:24.599 very enjoyable hobby. People worry about failing at gardening and 720 00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:27.159 they feel like they can't grow things, and they say 721 00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.039 they have a brown thumb. And I'm here to tell 722 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:35.519 you that it's not as difficult sometimes as we make it. 723 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.000 But it comes down to getting good information and giving 724 00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:42.000 a plant what it wants. That's the bottom line. Now, 725 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.480 you go on social media, okay, don't get me started. 726 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.360 Drives me nuts. All the claims that are made out 727 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.000 there and all the kind of goofy things. You know, 728 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.199 if it's used to be a guy I won't use 729 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.280 his name, but wrote books and everything, and he talked 730 00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:57.519 about putting beer on your lawn and of course people 731 00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:59.719 eat that stuff up. They love all kinds of weird 732 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:05.719 stuf like that. Just just do things right. Just understand 733 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:09.840 what a plant wants. Plants want sunlight, plants want soil moisture, 734 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:13.519 plants want good drained and there's variations in all of 735 00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:16.000 those factors. How much, son, how much do you know? 736 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.679 There are plants that can take bad drainage. But in general, 737 00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.199 you give a plant what it wants and you're gonna 738 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.800 have success with it. And so save yourself all the 739 00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.559 gimmicks and home remedies and all the other things, and 740 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:29.440 just give the plants what they want. If you got 741 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.400 any questions about those same, give me a call. You're 742 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:33.440 on guarden line. That's over here. We can help you 743 00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:36.760 have success. We want it to be fun. I promise 744 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.840 you you do not have a brown thumb, no matter what. 745 00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:42.079 I don't care how many plants you've killed. You got 746 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.039 to kill a lot of plants to be a good gardener, 747 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.480 by the way, but you don't have a brown thumb. 748 00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.679 You have an uninformed thumb. Maybe, so let's inform that thumb. 749 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.000 Give me a call seven one three two one two 750 00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.239 k t RH. We'll make it simple like that. You know, 751 00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.559 when you think about what a plants want, well, what 752 00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.800 is nature provide for plants? 753 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:02.400 You know? 754 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.519 How where do plants live other than in our yards 755 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:07.199 when we pull them from all over the world and 756 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.039 bring them to one spot here to grow in our yard. Well, 757 00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:15.519 plants live out where soil is being built by natural processes, 758 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.960 roots growing and dying and decomposing, earthworms going through leaves 759 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:24.079 falling on the surface and decaying away. And microlife fertilizers 760 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:29.400 are designed for that particular system. That is exactly what 761 00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:34.079 nature does. Microbes rule the world. And when you do 762 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.880 a microlife fertilizer, when you get one, whether it's the 763 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.599 green bag, the sixty four that we put on our lawns, 764 00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:43.320 you know, the humates plus the purple bag, we're talking 765 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:47.119 about microbes present in those products and built in fact, 766 00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:50.960 every bag contains just bazillions of beneficial microbes to help 767 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.199 your plants. And then that includes i say bags, that 768 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.599 includes their liquids, the Microlife Biomatrix orange label, the Ocean Harvest. 769 00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.239 I just use some Ocean Harvest blue label on some 770 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.079 plants I'm trying to get a boost on. I got 771 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:06.480 some outdoor plants that are in containers and they're just 772 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.639 kind of not happy. Part of it's my fault for 773 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:13.440 not caring for them better. But I've got some Microlife 774 00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.639 Ocean Harvest blue label. It's a four to two three 775 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.199 fish based fertilizer. Mixed it up in water like the 776 00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:20.280 label says, and watered with it, and I'll do that 777 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.000 for the next two or three weeks and they will 778 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.639 turn around. Because micro Life products work. You can go 779 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:28.440 to Microlife Fertilizer dot com find out more about it, 780 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:35.000 but the bottom line is that they work. My songbirds 781 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:40.239 out in the yard and garden are really excited about 782 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.679 the feeders that we have for them out right now. 783 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.760 I put some Nesting super Blend in. That's a product 784 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.760 sold by Wildbird's Unlimited Nesting Superblend, because a lot of 785 00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.000 our birds are nesting. I had some doves that came 786 00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.440 in and I've never seen this before, but we have 787 00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.559 a swallow nest. It's a little mud nest under the 788 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.480 eaves of the house at the front door, and we 789 00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.599 leave it there because we like it. We like having 790 00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:05.840 the swallows come in. They came in, did their thing. 791 00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.519 Now they're gone, and some doves came in and start 792 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:11.119 bringing sticks and putting them on top of the swallow 793 00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:14.440 nest to make their nests right there. It's the strangest thing. 794 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.400 But birds love to hang out at my house because 795 00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:23.599 we're always giving them quality feed from Wildbirds Unlimited. Cheap 796 00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:27.480 bird seed is exactly that. It's not just that it's inexpensive. 797 00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:31.400 In fact, it isn't inexpensive because when half the bird 798 00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:33.280 seed goes on the ground because birds don't want to 799 00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:38.360 eat it, that's not inexpensive. That is a cheap product, 800 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.239 but that's not inexpensive because you're gonna end up buying 801 00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:44.000 more just to get some in the bird's stomach. 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We're going 881 00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:21.280 to head out now and go to Katie and talk 882 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.519 to Mark. Hello, Mark, Welcome to garden Line. 883 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:25.599 Good morning Skip. 884 00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:29.800 We had some foundation work done and they had to 885 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:33.079 take the plants out of the backflower bed and there 886 00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:37.519 were four really healthy, mature Laura Petellum's, And I guess 887 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.159 my first question is, how do you hoy? 888 00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.719 Do you pronounce it? Is it Laura Peddlum or Laura Petellum? 889 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:43.360 Uh? 890 00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:48.000 Laura Pedlum Chinese witch hazelaw? That makes it easier, Okay. 891 00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:52.559 Anyway, so they did a very poor job, didn't take 892 00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:54.360 much of the roots and all and put them back, 893 00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:57.920 and of course they all died. So the quandary, though, 894 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.519 is that we went out and bought four more new, 895 00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:05.239 really nice, healthy laurapotolms put them back in the exact 896 00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:08.760 same spots and the same dirt, exact same sun and shade, 897 00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.599 and they're dying too, so we can't figure out what 898 00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:13.400 to do about it. 899 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.320 The key on a new plant like that is to 900 00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:23.159 keep the roots moist, not overwatering and drowning them, nor 901 00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:27.760 letting them get dry. And the challenge mark is that 902 00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:29.840 plant before you bought it was sitting in a garden 903 00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.360 center where somebody's watering it every day, because the whole 904 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:36.559 root system is in that cylinder in the container, and 905 00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:38.760 so when you put it in the ground, it could 906 00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:42.159 pump that cylinder dry easily, even though you know you've 907 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:44.599 watered the whole bed and the soil is moist well, 908 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:48.679 the root zone soil is not moist because it pumps 909 00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.239 it dry. So you have to water right there at 910 00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:53.000 the base for a little while. And it's kind of 911 00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.000 a touch and got thing where you're keeping it moist 912 00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:58.480 enough but not too soggy wet, and it takes almost 913 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.800 a daily watering, well early on it does, especially if 914 00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:05.000 they're in some sun, to do that, and then gradually 915 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.760 as they get established, then you know you're not worrying 916 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:11.519 about such touch and go watering all the time. But 917 00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:13.400 that may have been what happened. It could have been 918 00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:17.599 some damage in the transplanting process. But I would just 919 00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.519 dig down with a little hand trowel, go about four 920 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:22.920 to six inches down and feel the soil right there 921 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:26.199 at the root ball, and that'll tell you if it's 922 00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:29.440 moist or not and water accordingly. 923 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:31.840 Is there any sign I can look forward to know 924 00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:33.559 that I'm overwatering. 925 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.559 Well, Digging down and feeling the wet soil is the 926 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:43.719 most dependable way, because you know, the soils are all different, 927 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.760 they hold water, different sun versus shade, hot versus cool, 928 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.079 you know, I mean, there's a lot of variables. But 929 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:52.840 how wet is the soil is what you're really trying 930 00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:56.519 to do. And I would say, what size gallon? What 931 00:50:56.679 --> 00:51:00.760 size containers? With these about? How are the diameter of 932 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:01.800 the pop roughly? 933 00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:07.039 Yeah, I think again three gallon, so you could. 934 00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:12.920 Probably, yeah, you could probably put about on maybe almost 935 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.920 a gallon of water on them if you're doing it 936 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:18.199 every day and they're in some shade, maybe a half 937 00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:22.559 gallon would be enough to do it. But it's you know, 938 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.719 I hesitate to give amounts like that because, as I said, 939 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:29.840 every situation is different. It's just the real answer. It 940 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:32.480 sounds like an avoiding the question, but the real answer 941 00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:36.320 is enough to keep the soul moist and no more so. 942 00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.440 Uh yeah, that's why your you know, your fingers on 943 00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:43.000 the end of your hand, or your best gauge of 944 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:48.239 the of of that situation. All right, I'll try that, 945 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:51.639 all right, Mark, thanks a lot. I appreciate your call. 946 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:55.880 You take care, yes, bye bye. 947 00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:56.400 Yeah. 948 00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:58.960 We can plan any We can plan all year round here, 949 00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:03.400 but when you plant, you got to it's touch and 950 00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.280 go in the summertime. It doesn't mean it can't be done. 951 00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:08.039 I still do it. I've got some plants that are 952 00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:10.880 about to go in the ground. I've been planting very 953 00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:14.119 much every other week here for a good while, just 954 00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:16.360 when I can get around, you know, to taking care 955 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:22.559 of some plants. If if you haven't been out to 956 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:27.559 RCW Nurseries recently, you need to go. They've got some 957 00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.159 really good deals going on out there, and it's a 958 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:33.480 great nursery anyway to go to. You good advice, but 959 00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:35.519 they they can fix you up. 960 00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:35.719 You know. 961 00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.239 Yellow is the color of summer, and they have so 962 00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:41.400 many great plant like goldstaris bronze. You've seen that. It's 963 00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.559 a beautiful yellow plant coliuses that are all yellow in 964 00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:48.280 the fold. It's just a golden yellow. A little lisamakia. 965 00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:51.559 It's a ground covering vine that has yellow flowers. One 966 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:54.920 called golden globes. The yellow shrimp plant. For shady areas. 967 00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.639 Light colors really brighten up a shade, make it look 968 00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:02.599 really good. They've got plenty of sun loving geraniums, the 969 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:04.920 ones that can take quite a bit of sunlight out there. 970 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:09.400 And then of course the gorgeous, just gorgeous cajun hibiscus 971 00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:13.679 and beautiful kriite myrtles, beautiful roses. Yes, you can still 972 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:17.440 plan all that stuff. Just keep the root zone moist 973 00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:20.320 and then beautiful color. One of my favorite summer plants 974 00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:26.000 is for annual color is summer snap dragon. It's just 975 00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:28.639 angelonia is a proper name for it. It's just a 976 00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:31.920 beautiful plant. They got lots of that at RCW Nursery. 977 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.159 They're the nursery where Tomball Parkway and About Way eight 978 00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:36.840 come together. Makes it really easy to get in and out. 979 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.639 And when you get there, you're gonna find some really 980 00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:41.679 good stuff. We're going to go to sugar Land now 981 00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:45.360 and talk to Stephen. Hello, Stephen, Welcome to garden line. Hello, 982 00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:47.760 good morning, So morning. 983 00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:53.079 We were gifted at autumn blaze maple tree. It was 984 00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:58.760 about six foot tall and during transport to our property 985 00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:02.320 it broke at the base, so it was done well. 986 00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:06.960 I noticed a little offshoot there. It was about inch tall, 987 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:07.719 so I left it. 988 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:08.000 Well. 989 00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:12.039 That thing is now sprouted to about two feet, but 990 00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:14.039 it's got like a bunch of branches. 991 00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:16.239 It's more like a bush than a tree. 992 00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.079 So I'm wondering should I And it's got one main 993 00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.440 branch coming off the side. I should probably just snip 994 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:24.400 that off right so it could be more of a 995 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.719 tree light, But the straighter ones we'll take over. 996 00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:30.880 Yeah, it had a good root system, so when the 997 00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:33.280 top broke off, it had a lot of energy to 998 00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:35.639 push into growth because it had that good root system. 999 00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:40.760 I don't you can snip off everything but the central trunk, 1000 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:43.599 but what I generally recommend is take your prunters and 1001 00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.280 just cut the last three or four inches off these 1002 00:54:47.320 --> 00:54:50.920 shoots that you don't want to keep. What that does 1003 00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:54.639 is it dwarfs them and lets the growth energy go 1004 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:57.760 into the shoot that you're leaving that's going to become 1005 00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:01.320 the trunk of your autumn blaze. Uh, and so when 1006 00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:04.199 you when you when you do that, they stay small, 1007 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.320 but you leave the leaves on them. Because that plant 1008 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:09.960 lost all its leaves when they got broken off. It's 1009 00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:13.280 food factories were gone. So I don't want to take 1010 00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:15.679 the food factories that it just put out and just 1011 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.679 cut them right away again, cut them off again. So 1012 00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:20.440 if you tip them though off. 1013 00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:23.719 When the other stopped when the main tree broke, I 1014 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.719 mean literally there was nothing left. That offshoot was coming 1015 00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:31.280 off the side of the root like a brand new 1016 00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:36.360 but it has since sprouted up two feet and I 1017 00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:38.519 want I'm thinking I want to cut there's one that's 1018 00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:41.239 kind of coming out the side that's actually gotten taller 1019 00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:43.360 than the main stalk, So I want to I think 1020 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:44.360 I should just cut. 1021 00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.000 It off totally. So so what I'm telling you is 1022 00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:49.960 tip that one, cut it back about four inches, and 1023 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.079 if it tries to sprout some more on that branch, 1024 00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.480 cut it back, but leave the leaves that are on 1025 00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:57.639 it to benefit you when we get to fall, you 1026 00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:01.039 will have tipped it more than once to stop anything 1027 00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:03.239 from thinking it's going to become the boss of the 1028 00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:05.400 plant and take over and be the trunk like it's 1029 00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:08.760 doing right now. And then cut it off when we 1030 00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.519 get into winter winter printing time, but leave it. We 1031 00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.960 call that a nurse limb. 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That is the website to go to to 1044 00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:55.719 check it out. BnB turf Pros. They do quality work. 1045 00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:57.880 They take care of their customers. It's very important to them. 1046 00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:00.559 For them, it's not just like here, I show up, 1047 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:02.800 I do my thing, hand me a check, I'm gone. 1048 00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:07.159 It's a relationship for them with their customers. They do 1049 00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.119 high quality work and customers. They want you to be 1050 00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:13.320 happy with what they're doing. That is important and you 1051 00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.800 will be by the way they do outstanding work. Now, 1052 00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:19.920 if you live in the area, let's say from sugar 1053 00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:23.559 Land all the way across I six all the way 1054 00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.719 to Interstate forty five. You know, so Sugarland, Missouri City, 1055 00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:30.440 Ciena ar Cola, Manvil, Alvin and then up Pairland friends 1056 00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.840 would League City, Dickinson forty five. There, that's the region 1057 00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.480 they serve, and they do quality work. If your lawn 1058 00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.199 is struggling, if it's thin, if you just can't get 1059 00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:42.400 it to grow, you know you fertilize, it's just not 1060 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:46.320 doing well, probably needs some aerration done and core aeration 1061 00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:50.199 followed by compost top dressing will really turn it around. 1062 00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:54.719 BnB turf Pros only uses top quality materials from Cienamals. 1063 00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:58.199 Just these products I talk about here on guarden Line 1064 00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:04.280 basically family operation, honest quality work BB no end in 1065 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:08.280 the website. BB Turfpros dot com seven to one three 1066 00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:11.760 two three four fifty five ninety eight. We're going to 1067 00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:14.480 go now to Archie and U pair Land if I 1068 00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:19.159 can get my computer over there. Hey, Archie, I have 1069 00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.000 just a second here, but I saw that you did 1070 00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:26.159 resend me an email. But it has the it has the. 1071 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:34.039 BTEX tree in it, right, Yeah, that's the one, okay, 1072 00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.840 and then I'll sent you another one of insect that 1073 00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:42.239 was on my my bricks just in the last thirty 1074 00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:46.320 mini almost at the same time. But there's a second 1075 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:46.760 one I sent. 1076 00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:53.199 I don't understand this. I got one from units of Itex. 1077 00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:56.159 That's all that's in my box. I'm gonna I've got 1078 00:58:56.239 --> 00:58:58.920 fifteen seconds. I'm I'm I'm sorry. I'm gonna have to run. 1079 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:03.360 All right, It's fine, give it one give it, give 1080 00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:05.400 it one more try, let's try. I'd really like to 1081 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.239 help you with this one. H. But I'm just gonna 1082 00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:11.920 have to have to go. H. I wish I could, 1083 00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:16.079 wish I could find that email. Well, we'll be right back. Alrighty, 1084 00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.119 we're back. Welcome back to Guardline. Good to have you 1085 00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:26.599 with us. I like hopping music. Keep things going. If 1086 00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.199 you if you're if you're looking to get your lawn 1087 00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:33.119 fertilizing done, you need to go ahead and do so. 1088 00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:33.679 Now. 1089 00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:35.159 It is time. June is the time. 1090 00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:35.320 Now. 1091 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.760 If you're using slow release fertilizers like you hear me 1092 00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.960 talk about all the time, Uh, there are some outstanding 1093 00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:43.840 products out there to do that. Nitrovas has one called 1094 00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:47.679 super Turf nitrovas. Super turf is a slow release. It's 1095 00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:50.119 going to give you four months of feeding. You put 1096 00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:52.559 it down. You put it down now, and you're done. 1097 00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:55.519 You're done till fall. When we get to the fall fertilization, 1098 00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:57.920 that's when we put on a little more potassium in 1099 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:01.199 our mixes, and that's next time you're going to fertilize. 1100 01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:04.559 So we're talking about October there. Probably I would go 1101 01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:07.119 ahead and get it done, watered in really good. You're 1102 01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:08.880 gonna be okay. Someone called me the other day and 1103 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:12.000 they'd gotten a gully washer rain after they put down superturf, 1104 01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:14.280 and they said, I need to fertilize again. I said, no, 1105 01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:17.760 you do not. Here's why super turf doesn't just dissolve 1106 01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:20.800 away like typical salt based fertilizer and just you know, 1107 01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:25.239 all gone in a good rain. It releases slowly over time, 1108 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:27.920 and not all the types of nitrogen are going to 1109 01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:31.159 be affected by water, so it gets real wet. It 1110 01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:34.079 doesn't mean it's all releasing. It's a quality product. It's 1111 01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.920 in a silver bag and it's from Nitrofoss, and so 1112 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:40.119 you can find nito Foss products, you know, at places 1113 01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:43.880 like fish Ers Hardware, there's one down in Pasadena, there's 1114 01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.320 one in La Port, there's one in Bellevue, there's one 1115 01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:50.159 in Baytown Stanton Shopping Center, and Alvin carries Night Foss 1116 01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:53.239 products as well as does D and D Feed up 1117 01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.199 in a Tumbole area. By the way, if you haven't 1118 01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:58.480 been to D and D Feed, they are three miles 1119 01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:00.920 west of two forty nine and tom Ball, so you 1120 01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:03.719 just head out west, they'll be on the left hand side, 1121 01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:06.159 about three miles out. Dover Family open that place and 1122 01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:10.159 I believe nineteen eighty nine and it just keeps getting 1123 01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:13.320 better and you're gonna find everything you need when it 1124 01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:15.960 comes to fertilizers for your loan. And they even carry 1125 01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:20.280 things like heirloom soils, heirloom sold bagged products there. They 1126 01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:22.519 carry brands of every kind of fertilizer. If you hear 1127 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:24.920 me talk about fertilizers here on Guardline, they're going to 1128 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.599 have it. At D and DE Feed, they do carry 1129 01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:32.280 a complete selection. They have quality pet foods too, brands 1130 01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:37.320 like Victor Star Pro Diamond Origin. And if you're dealing 1131 01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:41.880 with pass weeds and diseases, their selection of products to 1132 01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:46.320 help manage those plant problems is outstanding. You just just 1133 01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:48.719 head in there again. They're on twenty nine to twenty 1134 01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:50.840 three miles west of two forty nine if you want 1135 01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.440 to get McCall two eight one three five to one 1136 01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:58.000 seventy one forty four two eight one three five one 1137 01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:01.159 seventy one forty four out there at d And Defeed. 1138 01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:04.119 I was in there the other day looking at some 1139 01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:07.159 of the products. I always stop into our garden center 1140 01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:11.119 sponsors periodically, just okay, what's new on the shelf, what 1141 01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:14.760 you got, and just really surprised at some of the 1142 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:19.119 specific products that aren't available in a lot of places, 1143 01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.800 but they definitely have them right there in d And Defeed. 1144 01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:30.360 If you are looking to do some pest control in 1145 01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:33.400 your lawns, you know we've got a number of pests 1146 01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:37.480 that begin about this time of the year to either 1147 01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:40.119 attack or to be present in some years. And here's 1148 01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:43.559 what I mean by that. Chinchbugs the first generation that 1149 01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:47.239 we really start dealing with that is a problem in 1150 01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:51.039 our lawns. It starts occurring in June, July, August, and 1151 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.039 the later you get in the summer, the worst the 1152 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:56.400 chinchbug potential and problem is. Doesn't mean you have them 1153 01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:58.480 right now that are a problem in your lawn. That 1154 01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:00.360 don't mean you have to treat right now. Your lawn 1155 01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:03.599 looks good, You're okay, but watch it because chinchbugs could 1156 01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:07.280 be coming. Sod webworms another one. Late summer, especially fall, 1157 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:11.400 or late summer and early fall. But that's another one. 1158 01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:13.480 Doesn't mean you're going to happen. Some years you don't 1159 01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:15.239 even know you have them. I mean they're there, they 1160 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:18.719 live in our area, but there's not outbreaks every year, 1161 01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:20.840 but boy, when there are, you got to get in 1162 01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:24.000 ahead of them. Those are just two prime examples. And 1163 01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:29.800 then we've got grubs and grubs. We have two things 1164 01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:34.159 we do, or two attempts at the life of the grub. 1165 01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:38.360 One of them is we typically are doing it in 1166 01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:43.519 June when the June bugs there should be called may 1167 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:47.039 bugs around here, but the jumbugs lay eggs and the 1168 01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.760 little tiny larvae are hatching and feeding near the surface, 1169 01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:51.960 and they're easy to get to right then. That's why 1170 01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.199 June is prime time for treating for them. By the 1171 01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:59.599 time we get into July in August, the grubs have 1172 01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:03.159 started going down in the hot weather, the dryer soils 1173 01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:05.639 and stuff. They're moving their way down and they're getting bigger, 1174 01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:08.599 and a lot of products don't make it down that far. 1175 01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:10.760 And so if you look at my schedule, Skip Richter's 1176 01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:15.519 lawn Pest, Disease and weed Management Schedule free online at 1177 01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:18.880 my website gardeningwith Skip dot com, you'll see what I 1178 01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:23.000 just told you about chinchbugside web worms and early grub treatment, 1179 01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:25.440 late grub treatment, and it gives you the products that 1180 01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:29.280 you can use to control them at those times of 1181 01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:32.679 the year. So take a good close look at it. 1182 01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:36.519 It's free. It's online, as is my lawn care guide. 1183 01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:38.760 Our phone number here if you'd like to give me 1184 01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.639 a call is seven one three two one two ktr 1185 01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:45.719 H seven one three two one two k t r H. 1186 01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:48.920 We'll be happy to visit about the things that are 1187 01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:52.599 of most interest to you. Hey, have you been down 1188 01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:56.679 to Intended Gardens? Intended Gardens is a garden center there 1189 01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:00.119 in Richmond Rosenberg. In fact, what you do is you 1190 01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:03.400 just head north of Richmond rosa Berg on the Katie 1191 01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:08.239 Fullsher side of Richmond, Okay. The road is FM three 1192 01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:11.519 fifty nine out there where all the new neighborhoods have 1193 01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:14.840 been being built for a long time now. And boy 1194 01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:18.880 is it ever a Great Garden Center. Beautiful, beautiful things. 1195 01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:22.599 If you're looking for pollinators, if you're looking for you know, 1196 01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:25.320 just bringing butterflies and things. If you're looking for summer 1197 01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:28.960 color plants that can just survive the heat, I don't care. 1198 01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:31.599 If it's plants you need for sun or maybe you 1199 01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:35.480 need some plants for shade. They are good to go. 1200 01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:39.719 They've got everything. And one of the things that I 1201 01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:42.840 always think of first when I think of enchanted gardens 1202 01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:46.400 is their containers. And the reason is because they have 1203 01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:51.360 so many unique containers. Maria there just does some beautiful designs. 1204 01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:55.559 You can buy those kind of a rustic iron. It's 1205 01:05:55.559 --> 01:05:58.960 almost like a giant, heavy duty wire basket. I don't 1206 01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:00.559 know if that's a good description of it or not. 1207 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.599 But they line them with liners, fill them with potting soil, 1208 01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:06.320 and do these mixed containers of all types. I saw 1209 01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:09.519 one that was a butterfly container that was gorgeous. It 1210 01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:13.239 was in like a galvanized metal container. You gotta have 1211 01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:15.679 good drainage for those, but that's easy. It had a 1212 01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:18.639 lantana in it, It had milkweed for bringing in the 1213 01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:24.760 monarch larvae. It had what oh, it had pipevine, which 1214 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:29.599 brings excuse me. Dutchman's pipe brings in the pipeline swallowtail, 1215 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:32.800 a type of that had rue, which is another source 1216 01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:34.920 for caterpillar. I mean they're gonna be butterflies on that 1217 01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:37.400 lamb eggs for their babies to grow up. All kinds 1218 01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:40.039 of good things to eat. What a cool thing. Make 1219 01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:42.039 one of those. Set it out there on your patio. 1220 01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:44.920 Maybe you know, if you've got a little coffee table 1221 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:50.039 equivalent outside there. They got them. Enchanted Gardens FM three 1222 01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:53.480 fifty nine Katie fullsher Cider Richmond right down the website. 1223 01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:58.679 That's the easiest thing to do. Enchanted Gardens Richmond dot com. 1224 01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:02.079 By the way, they're open Monday through Saturday from eight 1225 01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:06.400 to five and also on Sunday as well, So enjoy 1226 01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:10.039 yourself Outn't even chinny gardens. I always do when I 1227 01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:13.360 go there. So what are we looking at here? I 1228 01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:15.960 always have to watch my time and make sure that 1229 01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:18.760 I'm not going too long. It always sneaks up with me. 1230 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.239 They say time flies when you're having fun, and I'm 1231 01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:25.360 always having but here on guard Line, Medina products are 1232 01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:28.559 one of those products. Been around a long long time. 1233 01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:30.800 I do Ecompton back in the fifties. I mean, he 1234 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:34.039 was talking about Medina products long long time ago, and 1235 01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:35.320 they have so many good products. 1236 01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:35.599 I like. 1237 01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:38.280 Medina Plus is one of the many things. 1238 01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:38.519 That they have. 1239 01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:43.599 It's the regular Medina soil activator, which everybody knows that one, 1240 01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:46.719 but it's got over forty different trace elements. It's got 1241 01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:49.960 a number of different natural growth hormones put in it, 1242 01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:54.320 as well as many other things that help your plants 1243 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:57.000 that thrive. Plants need more than just a few nutrients. 1244 01:07:57.039 --> 01:07:59.079 They need lots of nutrients, and they need lots of 1245 01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:02.360 substances that are part of nature, part of what plants 1246 01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:05.519 make too, and they're in Medina Plus. You mix it 1247 01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:08.800 in water for transplanting. You can spray it as a 1248 01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:11.800 folier if you wish to do that. Uh, it works. 1249 01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:14.920 Medina Plus. Where you find Medina products, which is pretty 1250 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:17.119 much everywhere you know. You go into ace hardware stores, 1251 01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:19.359 you go into feed stores, you go into our garden centers. 1252 01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:21.840 You hear me talk about they're all gonna have Medina 1253 01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:24.479 products and they work. I've got them on my shelf 1254 01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:27.199 and when I'm heading out into the garden, I can 1255 01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:31.239 just grab them, mix them in water for whatever I'm doing. Transplanting. 1256 01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:34.239 Whatever the activity of the day is, Medina's got a 1257 01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:37.840 product there for you. Let's see, I'm gonna have to 1258 01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:40.119 run to a break here. When I come back, Tom 1259 01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:42.479 and Rocheron and David and Tomba, you will be our 1260 01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:45.640 first two up. All right, welcome back to Garden Line. 1261 01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:50.319 I don't think I've ever played blink one eight two 1262 01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:53.319 on guard Line before, but now I have good to 1263 01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:54.560 have you with us. 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Hello, Tom, 1285 01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:03.199 Welcome to guarden Line. 1286 01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:05.079 Good morning. 1287 01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:10.359 I've got a primacaine variety of blackberries, and this year 1288 01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:13.840 they're really produced. And I noticed for the first time 1289 01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:20.359 that the cane that produced berry towards the end of production. 1290 01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:20.800 It dies. 1291 01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:21.880 Is that normal? 1292 01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:24.399 It can be? 1293 01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:25.479 It can be. 1294 01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:25.840 Uh. 1295 01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:29.479 Typically with the non primacaine types, you know, they go 1296 01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:31.840 into the second year when they produce and then they 1297 01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:33.239 die after the production. 1298 01:10:34.119 --> 01:10:37.039 H I have not do you have like. 1299 01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:45.119 Traveler Primark Traveler Primark Freedom? What do you know? 1300 01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:45.239 What? 1301 01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:51.840 Okay? Yeah, uh, just just watch and see. I don't 1302 01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:55.079 know if you're going to get a second on the primacaine. 1303 01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:58.439 I thought they would re sprout some and and and 1304 01:10:58.640 --> 01:11:02.920 still do a second, uh, the next year, but I 1305 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:03.640 think they will. 1306 01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:07.279 But that that pain that produced all the berries, you know, 1307 01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:09.439 or stem whatever you want to call it, that one. 1308 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:12.800 He might have five of those on a. 1309 01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:14.960 On your plant. 1310 01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:18.199 That stem died after. 1311 01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:21.880 Do I cut that all? 1312 01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:23.199 What should I do? 1313 01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:28.079 Yeah? Anytime, I just want any of the black any kind. 1314 01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:32.640 It was something else happened, I don't think so. I 1315 01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:37.720 mean they blackberries get some little stem splotches, disease splotches, 1316 01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:40.680 and other things that can happen to them. But as 1317 01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:42.720 long as the rest of your plant looks good, I 1318 01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:44.840 think you're okay. But cut it off down near the 1319 01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:48.000 ground and that it'll send up new shoots of course, 1320 01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:52.000 like blackberries do from the base. Yeah, if you want 1321 01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:53.439 to send a picture, I can take a look at it, 1322 01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.520 see if I see anything else on it. But I 1323 01:11:56.520 --> 01:11:58.920 would just prien the dead ones. That one's out of there. 1324 01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:01.800 Makes it a more manager patch to keep those old 1325 01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:07.800 things out of there. Okay, thank you, thanks sir. Appreciate 1326 01:12:07.840 --> 01:12:10.399 your call very much. Tom. Those are great blackberries too, 1327 01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:14.680 by the way, glad to hear that you've got those. Yeah, 1328 01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:19.760 I love those, love those things year round. Houston is 1329 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:24.199 a company that comes out and does cor aeration in 1330 01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:27.600 compasstop dressing, and they do an awesome job of it. 1331 01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:29.880 They use quality materials, so when you go to year 1332 01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:32.880 Round Houston, you're going to get something that is going 1333 01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:35.880 to help your lawn to just be rejuvenated. It's going 1334 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:38.680 to breathe new life in the soil. The cor aeration 1335 01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.359 they do gets the oxygen down in the root system. 1336 01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:45.640 It helps break up that dense clay soil that gets compacted, 1337 01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:48.720 and that's one of the problems for plants that are 1338 01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:50.960 trying to grow in that kind of a mass. And 1339 01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:54.159 then the compost stop dressing provides a coating over the soil. 1340 01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:56.760 Some of it falls into the whole microbes go crazy, 1341 01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:59.680 they decompose it away, the lawn just gets better. They 1342 01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:02.159 cover the area inside the Beltway, So that's where we 1343 01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:04.359 talk about him. Here on Guardenline is our inside the 1344 01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:10.239 Beltway compost stop dressing and core Aeration. The website year 1345 01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:15.760 round Houston dot com, Year Round Houston dot Com. The 1346 01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:19.319 phone number eight three two eight eight four fifty three 1347 01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:23.159 thirty five. Go out now to Baytown and we're going 1348 01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:23.800 to talk to Wayne. 1349 01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:23.960 Now. 1350 01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:25.560 Hello, Wayne, Welcome to garden Line. 1351 01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:30.720 Oh well, welcome back here. A two weeks ago, the 1352 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:34.600 city prepared a water main leak in my Saint Augustine 1353 01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:38.239 yard and the filter that they brought back in has 1354 01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:39.680 a bunch of Johnson grass. 1355 01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:43.319 So really and they and they didn't charge you extra. 1356 01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:47.359 They didn't charge you extra for Johnson grasst. 1357 01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:48.239 I got the Johnthon grats. 1358 01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:49.760 I got the Johnthan grass free. 1359 01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:54.399 Oh what a deal. Oh my gosh. Well, you know, 1360 01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:58.479 Johnson grass got those underground rhizomes and so hand digging 1361 01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:00.840 it out. I know it's in your yards. It's kind 1362 01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:03.079 of hard, but you kind of date out, put the 1363 01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:06.479 grass back down and watered down. That is an option. 1364 01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:09.439 But the other option would be to use my weed 1365 01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:12.359 wiper Wayne. I don't know if you've been to my website, 1366 01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:16.279 but it's gardening with Skip dot com and on there 1367 01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:19.479 is a publication called Skip's Weedwiper tells you how to build. 1368 01:14:19.479 --> 01:14:22.960 It's really easy to build, and you can put anything 1369 01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:24.680 on it that kills grass. I mean, it could be 1370 01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:27.760 a grass only killer, or it could be something like glyphosate. 1371 01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:31.039 And you put it on the sponges and that Johnson 1372 01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:33.600 grass comes up higher than your lawn. So you can 1373 01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:36.560 easily wipe it on the leaves without even stooping over 1374 01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:41.119 with my weed wiper tool, and it translocates down and 1375 01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:43.880 kills the Johnson grass. It's good for any killing anything 1376 01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:46.319 that's coming up above your lawn, or for getting underneath 1377 01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:49.199 like a rosebush, to kill a poison ivy that's coming 1378 01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:51.840 up under there. It's a very versatile tool. 1379 01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:57.079 Oh can I just spray it with spectracide weed stop 1380 01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:01.520 for lawns with a Let's see it supposed to have 1381 01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:06.439 atrosine in it, I. 1382 01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:16.159 Don't unless it's a very young seedling still stage, I 1383 01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:18.600 don't think it's gonna give you good effect. I don't 1384 01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:20.399 think you're gonna get what you're looking for out of it. 1385 01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:26.319 You're gonna be extra careful with that atrocine too. Atrazine 1386 01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:30.560 is primarily something we use as a pre emergent and 1387 01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:33.760 what we say early post emergent. While the little seedlings 1388 01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:37.079 are young, it'll still kill them. But I don't think 1389 01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:41.039 johnsonngrass coming from rhizomes is gonna be killed by it. 1390 01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:42.680 I'd have to check into that to be sure, but 1391 01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:47.199 I don't think so. All righty, I find your weed 1392 01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:54.359 wipper gardening with skip dot Com gardening with skip dot com. 1393 01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:56.640 When you see it, just see a picture of it, 1394 01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:58.000 you go, oh, okay, I know how to build one 1395 01:15:58.039 --> 01:15:59.960 of those, but it walks you through. It's really easy 1396 01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:03.760 to do, and I use it for all kinds of things. Yeah, 1397 01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:07.760 you bet, Thanks Wayne. I appreciate your call very very 1398 01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:10.720 very much, that is for sure. Uh Yeah. The weed 1399 01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:14.720 wiper is a handy little tool, and I encourage you 1400 01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:17.720 to check them out. Try them out, see how you 1401 01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:22.319 like it. Jorges Hidden Gardens down there in Alvin, Texas. 1402 01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:25.119 It's on Elizabeth Street and Alvin. Someone called today and 1403 01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:28.039 talked about how they've enjoyed Horae. Well, of course they did. 1404 01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:30.039 He's got all kinds of good things. He serves that 1405 01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:33.560 whole region Alvin, Santa Fe Hillcrest, Algoo or Katie Alta 1406 01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:36.439 Loma just south of the Highway six between Alvin and 1407 01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:40.359 Santa Fe on Elizabeth Street seven to one three six 1408 01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:43.199 three to two fifty two. Ninety's got a lot more 1409 01:16:43.399 --> 01:16:46.600 citrus than other kinds of fruit trees in He's got 1410 01:16:46.680 --> 01:16:49.560 beautiful roses and crape myrtles and all kinds of things. 1411 01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:52.760 He keeps a good stock of trees and other things 1412 01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:56.079 at Jorges Hidden Gardens at your garden center down south 1413 01:16:56.439 --> 01:17:01.159 of the Houston area. And see here, we've got to 1414 01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:07.760 no time left, think Charles. I'm gonna probably have to 1415 01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:09.279 pick you up right after the top of the hour. 1416 01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:10.439 If you want to hang on, you can do that, 1417 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:12.479 or you can call back if you don't mind holding 1418 01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:16.159 I'll be back with you when we come back at 1419 01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:19.439 the top of the hour. You're listening to garden Line. Hey, 1420 01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:22.359 I got a special guest coming up halfway through the 1421 01:17:22.439 --> 01:17:25.600 eight o'clock hour. You are gonna love this. Don't go away. 1422 01:17:27.159 --> 01:17:30.039 She will be here also, by the way, in the 1423 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:33.840 nine o'clock hour. It's doctor Juvanna Rangello Posada. She is 1424 01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:37.960 a honey bee expert. And I'm telling you you're gonna 1425 01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.600 learn things that are fascinating and some things that are 1426 01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:43.199 practical too, like how do you take care of your 1427 01:17:43.279 --> 01:17:46.359 bees around the landscape? How do you not kill your 1428 01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:49.840 bees or hurt them around the landscape? She knows it all. 1429 01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:52.319 We're gonna have her here. Can't wait to talk to her. 1430 01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:56.000 Hang around. Time to go get a cup of coffee 1431 01:17:56.039 --> 01:18:04.239 for now, We'll be right back, all right, folks, Welcome 1432 01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:07.039 back to garden Line. Good to have you good heavy 1433 01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:10.079 with us. We're looking forward to visiting with you about 1434 01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:12.159 the kinds of questions that you have. You can give 1435 01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:14.800 me a call it seven one three two one two 1436 01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:17.720 k t r H. Seven to one three two one 1437 01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:23.079 two kt r H. You hear me talk about the 1438 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:27.000 importance of taking care of the soil before you plant, 1439 01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:31.079 fixing the soil, getting it right, getting it ideal, creating 1440 01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:34.880 the perfect environment for plant roots. If you make roots happy, 1441 01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:36.560 you're going to make the plant happy. And if the 1442 01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:38.760 plant's happy, it's going to grow. It's going to make 1443 01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:41.399 give you roses. It's going to give you tomatoes, it's 1444 01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:45.119 going to give you beautiful green foliage. Whatever you're growing 1445 01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:48.159 that plant for, it starts in the soil. And see 1446 01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:51.319 in a mulch is the spot where you get everything 1447 01:18:51.359 --> 01:18:56.319 you need for making the soil bank account perfect for 1448 01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:59.800 the plant. That would include things like compost, that would 1449 01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.560 incl things like maltz. That would include things like bed 1450 01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:05.520 mixes like the Veggian or mix for marylom soils. You 1451 01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:09.319 can get that at cienamalt That would include the nutrients 1452 01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:12.760 that go into the soil, products from microlife and asamite 1453 01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:19.119 and Nelson's plant food and nitrefoss and medina. They have 1454 01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:22.479 it all. So when you go to Cienamltch and go 1455 01:19:22.600 --> 01:19:25.840 home and put their products to work, and then you 1456 01:19:25.960 --> 01:19:28.439 get your wonderful plants you're so excited about, you know, 1457 01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:30.920 go into the garden center getting your plants and you're 1458 01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:34.520 bringing them home. Well, you're putting them into the perfect 1459 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:38.199 spot for them to thrive. That is cnamals. Cnimalts dot 1460 01:19:38.279 --> 01:19:41.119 com is the website. Go there. You can find their 1461 01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:44.039 hours there by the way, they're open today from seven 1462 01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.520 thirty to two that we close tomorrow, but they're on 1463 01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:48.800 FM five point twenty one kind of near where Highway 1464 01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:52.479 six and two eighty eight are. Okay, so Sienna Maltz 1465 01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:54.319 dot com. That's what you need to know. Go check 1466 01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:57.039 it out and then get the products and do not 1467 01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.279 do not put a plant in the ground with out 1468 01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:03.600 preparing the soil, and Cienamals can help you do just that. 1469 01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:09.840 And head out now to the woodlands and visit with Charles. Hey, Charles, 1470 01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:10.920 welcome to garden Line. 1471 01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:13.479 Pay sad. Thanks. 1472 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:18.159 So this year I've got this weed in my Saint 1473 01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:23.640 Augustine lawn and it kind of looks like the small 1474 01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:29.119 version of a mimosa plant or mi mosa tree. Yes, 1475 01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:32.600 and I'm not sure what it is, and I'm not 1476 01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:36.239 sure what I do to kill the weed and not 1477 01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:40.319 the lawn when temperatures are in the mid nineties. So 1478 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:42.479 what advice do you have for me on that? 1479 01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:47.640 Yeah, that's called chamber better and just to make sure 1480 01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:49.520 we do have the right weed, because there's more than 1481 01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:53.399 one weed with mimosa like foliage. If you look underneath 1482 01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:55.840 that little pettiole coming off the stem with all the 1483 01:20:55.880 --> 01:20:59.000 little leaflets lined up along it, you should see little 1484 01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:02.359 balls underneath, a little tiny It could be a little 1485 01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:04.119 bit of a flower looking thing, or it could just 1486 01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:07.399 be a little kind of a fuzzy sphere underneath the 1487 01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:10.520 edge of that. That's chamber bitter, very difficult to control. 1488 01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:15.520 When you have it, and it's a problem in your lawns, 1489 01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:20.079 then putting a pre emergent herbicide out is the best 1490 01:21:20.159 --> 01:21:22.880 way to prevent those seeds from coming up, because they'll 1491 01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:26.720 be back every year. So that would include there's a 1492 01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.960 product called Gallery that's actually pretty good for that. It 1493 01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:33.960 controls broad leaf weeds specifically, it doesn't control grassy weeds, 1494 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:37.439 but it works pretty good for that, and so you're 1495 01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:43.279 gonna need to apply it probably, ah boy, I would 1496 01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:49.600 say maybe April, sometime in April, probably between maybe as 1497 01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:53.920 late as early May. But the chamber bitter sprout's late 1498 01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:56.439 and so but you don't want to wait too late 1499 01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:01.199 until it's already sprouted. But gallery will do it post emergent. Wise, 1500 01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:03.960 it's hard to find something that's not going to hurt 1501 01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:08.479 your your turf grass. I have not seen anybody try 1502 01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:14.760 Celsius on chamber bidder as a post emergent application yet. 1503 01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:20.039 I think that it probably would do pretty good, but 1504 01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:22.840 I'm not sure. So I'm saying that with a big 1505 01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:25.439 caveat on it. You would have to test it out 1506 01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:28.079 to see Celsius is a product that even if it's 1507 01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:31.239 in the low nineties, it's not going to hurt your grass. 1508 01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:35.560 Okay, thanks Gip, I appreciate it. 1509 01:22:37.159 --> 01:22:41.039 You bet good luck with that. Appreciate the call. Yeah, 1510 01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:44.039 I need to check into that well, Celsius control chamber bidder. 1511 01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:45.000 That's a good question. 1512 01:22:46.359 --> 01:22:46.479 You know. 1513 01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:49.960 It's interesting. There's so many products, and there's so many 1514 01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:53.079 weeds and diseases and insects, and then the products change 1515 01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:55.600 and then they change their name. On the products like 1516 01:22:56.039 --> 01:22:58.840 it's like a twenty four seven three sixty five job, 1517 01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:01.920 just trying to keep up with everything that is out 1518 01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:03.800 there going on. Hey, if you'd like to give me 1519 01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.399 a call seven one three two one two k t 1520 01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:08.960 r H. Seven one three two one two k t 1521 01:23:09.319 --> 01:23:12.079 r H. Look forward to having you here. On garden Line. 1522 01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:15.479 Nilsen Plant Food, they have a product called turf Star 1523 01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:17.600 Slow and Easy. It's part of the turf Star line. 1524 01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:21.720 Turfstars all their fertilizers for your lawn. Turf Star Slow 1525 01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:26.479 and Easy is a very gradual release of nutrients for 1526 01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:30.239 four plus months out there. So you put it down 1527 01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:33.039 now you're covered all the way up until your fall fertilization. 1528 01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:34.279 It is. 1529 01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:37.359 It has some ingredients in it that are somewhat acidifying 1530 01:23:37.600 --> 01:23:40.279 to the soil. Now our when our as our shall 1531 01:23:40.319 --> 01:23:42.560 pH gets high, that's when you start to see, especially 1532 01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:45.840 in your Saint Augustine, the iron deficiency, the yellowing in 1533 01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:48.880 your turf, and so anything we do to keep the 1534 01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:53.760 pH down helps reduce iron chlorosis. So you don't want 1535 01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:55.520 to raise your pH. You don't want to send your 1536 01:23:55.560 --> 01:23:57.840 phosphorus through the roof. That's that mental number on the 1537 01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:02.479 fertilizer bag. Those all promote ourn chlorosis and we want 1538 01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:04.479 to bring it down. So turf Star Slow and Easy 1539 01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:07.600 does just that. The blend of nutrients is right, the 1540 01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:13.680 fact that it does the acidifying, it's got a beneficial 1541 01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:17.479 effect really on the soul microbes, and some of the 1542 01:24:17.640 --> 01:24:21.039 forms of nutrients that it puts out are actually can 1543 01:24:21.119 --> 01:24:24.359 be utilized as well. So turf Star Slow and Easy 1544 01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:27.840 from the folks at Nelson Plant Food. Many great products 1545 01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:31.039 from Nelson, from the turf Star line to the nutri 1546 01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:34.239 Star line, which is fertilizers. You get a little jars 1547 01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:37.000 a fertilizer for every kind of plant you can imagine, 1548 01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:40.199 like booga and villia for example, and then the nutri 1549 01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:43.800 Star for palms and ornamental grasses. Good time to be 1550 01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:46.600 applying that too, works very very well. By the way, 1551 01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:48.880 do you know that palm trees are actually a grass 1552 01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:52.199 type plant. That's why we say palms and ornamental grasses. 1553 01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:59.000 From the folks at Nelson in the Nutri Star. If 1554 01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:00.680 you'd like to give me a call, we're gonna take 1555 01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:02.479 a little break here, but you can be first up 1556 01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:06.000 seven to one three two one two k t r 1557 01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:09.239 H seven one three two one two k t rh OH. 1558 01:25:09.319 --> 01:25:11.840 By the way, I wanted to mention, I'm still seeing 1559 01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:14.359 gray leaf spot out in the lawns now things really 1560 01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:17.000 heat up. The gray leaf spot tends to subside some 1561 01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:21.399 on us. But when we have high humidity or wet 1562 01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:26.560 grass surfaces so it could be rainfall shade, it doesn't 1563 01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:29.239 dry as fast in shade, so you tend to see 1564 01:25:29.279 --> 01:25:33.039 more gray leaf spots. Sometimes in shady areas you're running 1565 01:25:33.119 --> 01:25:37.039 the irrigation too long that or too often that promotes 1566 01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:39.720 gray leaf spot. To fight it, there's a product called 1567 01:25:39.720 --> 01:25:43.840 Eagle Turf fungicide. It's a systemic fungicide. It protects against 1568 01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:48.359 attack by a number of diseases, including gray leaf spot. 1569 01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:52.079 But it also is a curative in that it moves 1570 01:25:52.159 --> 01:25:54.680 up into the plant, the roots take it up, and 1571 01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:56.800 then moves it up into the plant and makes that 1572 01:25:56.960 --> 01:25:59.479 plant protected. It's kind of an antibiotic, I guess in 1573 01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:02.359 our system, you know, and fighting disease and stuff that's 1574 01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:03.479 equal to her fungicide. 1575 01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:04.039 Uh. 1576 01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:06.720 And it's from the folks at nitrofoss And you're gonna 1577 01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:09.640 find night frost products at places like M and D 1578 01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:13.279 on Beamer and Saegemont, M and D and Clairelake. Uh, 1579 01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:16.119 you're gonna find it at oh, I know it plays. 1580 01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:19.199 If you go up to Acid Single Ranch or Aspose's 1581 01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:22.000 up in the woodlands, you're gonna find nitro FoST products 1582 01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:24.159 up there as well. Let's take a little break and 1583 01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:26.520 I'll be back with your calls. Seven one three two 1584 01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:30.920 one two ktr H. All right, we're back, folks. Good 1585 01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:33.119 to have you with us. Hey, you got a gardening question. 1586 01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:36.800 Seven one three two one two ktr H. I want 1587 01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:38.640 to give me a call and we'll help you with that. 1588 01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:42.079 By the way, starting at eight thirty, coming up just 1589 01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:44.520 a little bit here, we are going to have a 1590 01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:48.000 special guest. Doctor Juliana Rangel Posada is going to be 1591 01:26:48.199 --> 01:26:52.720 on and she is a researcher on honeybees in uh 1592 01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:55.880 tex A and m up in college station. Boy, does 1593 01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:58.159 she ever have a lot of good information on bees. 1594 01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:01.479 Number one, You're gonna be fascinated. It is really cool 1595 01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:04.359 information that we're talking about. But also we're going to 1596 01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:07.119 talk a little bit about bees related to our gardening. 1597 01:27:07.279 --> 01:27:10.239 You know, what things we spray affect bees, how do 1598 01:27:10.319 --> 01:27:12.479 we take care of bees, and what are some of 1599 01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:15.239 the issues that we have. Dealer with bees. So anyway 1600 01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:17.520 you can enjoy that she's going to be with us 1601 01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:19.359 from eight thirty all the way through the end of 1602 01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:21.600 the show today, all the way through up to ten o'clock. 1603 01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:25.279 So stay tuned, and you know, if you got any 1604 01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:28.479 kiddos around, they might be interested in bee keeping or 1605 01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:31.199 learning about bees. I think that they will really enjoy 1606 01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:36.079 it as well. I was checking out Spring Creek Feed, 1607 01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:39.479 which is up there in the Tombul areas north actually 1608 01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:43.600 toward a Magnolia direction on FM twenty nine seventy eight, 1609 01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:47.039 So think of northeast of Tumbule, just a few minutes 1610 01:27:47.039 --> 01:27:50.520 away from Grant Parkway and Highway to forty nine. They 1611 01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:53.079 carry all the fertilizers that we talk about from turf 1612 01:27:53.159 --> 01:27:57.479 Star that's the Nelson line, microlife and nitroposs as well 1613 01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:00.079 as all kinds of things to control pests, weeds and 1614 01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:03.359 diseases in your landscape. When you go in there, you're 1615 01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:06.880 going to be greeted by friendly, courtious staff. They just 1616 01:28:07.399 --> 01:28:09.479 it's just a I enjoy going in there. You walk 1617 01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:11.359 in and first when you look straight ahead, you see 1618 01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:14.079 all this cool stuff you know, for your home and 1619 01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:18.640 other things and caps and decorations, all kinds of you. 1620 01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:20.319 Just think, am I in the right place? And then 1621 01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:22.439 you look to the left and there's all the dog 1622 01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:26.079 food and other things, high quality lines like Victor Purina. 1623 01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:28.359 And then you look to the right and there's your 1624 01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:32.159 gardens products, products to control weeds and diseases and pests, 1625 01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:36.159 fertilizers and whatnot. It's all there at Spring Creek Feed. Hey, 1626 01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:38.720 if you are in the military or a senior citizen, 1627 01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:41.199 there are discounts. Just ask them about it. They can 1628 01:28:41.279 --> 01:28:45.119 do special orders and they do delivery service that's available 1629 01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:49.000 as well. Spring Creek Feed in Magnolia on FM twenty 1630 01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:53.439 nine seventy eight. Fun place. I promise you enjoy going 1631 01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:55.159 in there. You probably go home with some stuff for 1632 01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:58.279 your house too, because they got all kinds of good 1633 01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:03.439 stuff as well. ACE Hardware stores all over the Greater 1634 01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:06.399 Houston area. When I say Greater Houston area, I'm talking 1635 01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:10.119 all the way down you know, Rockport, Texas, And for example, 1636 01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:14.560 there's an there is an ACE Hardware store on in 1637 01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:18.720 Port Lavaca on Calhoun Plaza on Rockport on State Highway 1638 01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:20.800 thirty five. Of course, here in the Houston area we've 1639 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:23.279 got them. We've got K and M out in Kingwood 1640 01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:26.600 on Kingwood Drive, and the one in a Taska Seeda 1641 01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:29.840 on timber Forest Drive. If you are in Spring on 1642 01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:32.960 Rayford Road, there's an All Star Ace there. There's All 1643 01:29:33.079 --> 01:29:37.319 Seasons Ace up on Interstate forty five in Willis up north, 1644 01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:40.439 and then on the east side we've got Uvaldi Ace 1645 01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:43.800 and New Valdi Road, Deer Park Ace on Center Street, 1646 01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:47.479 and Child's Buildings Supply on North sixteenth Way out there 1647 01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:49.960 in Orange. And I could just go on and on 1648 01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:52.359 and on. Lots of east hardware stores. Here's how to 1649 01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:58.279 find yours. Ace Hardware Texas dot com. That's my garden line, 1650 01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:01.119 ACE Hardware group that through the this whole region. Ace 1651 01:30:01.199 --> 01:30:05.000 Hardwaretexas dot Com. Go check them out. And by the way, 1652 01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:08.800 just the tip. Lots of good things for the patio outdoors. 1653 01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:10.880 Of course, they got all the fertilizers. You hear me 1654 01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:15.279 talking about U and barbecue pits. That is my latest obsession. 1655 01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:19.840 I'm becoming a barbeque nut. And it all started with 1656 01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:24.000 a really cool bet from Ace Hardware. Uh you are 1657 01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:26.760 listening to Guardline phone number seven one three two one 1658 01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:29.199 two k t r H. When we get past the 1659 01:30:29.319 --> 01:30:33.319 eight thirty hour, I'm going to be focusing the calls 1660 01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:37.159 more on things that are related to bees. So we've 1661 01:30:37.359 --> 01:30:42.039 got uh, you know, doctor Rangel here at the starting 1662 01:30:42.520 --> 01:30:44.680 just after eight thirty. So if you have a question 1663 01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:47.479 about bees, or taking care of bees, or be keeping 1664 01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:50.359 in general, or be issues and things, this would be 1665 01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:52.079 a good time to call. Maybe you heard some fun 1666 01:30:52.159 --> 01:30:54.279 factor about bees, you want to check it out. We'll 1667 01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:56.279 be visiting with her. It's going to be a fireside chat, 1668 01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:02.239 no lecture here, just enjoying ourselves talking about the wonderful 1669 01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:05.560 world of bees. I listened to a book on tape. 1670 01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:09.359 I can listen on tape as I'm driving, and when 1671 01:31:09.399 --> 01:31:11.600 I have to sit and read, I can't get so 1672 01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:14.119 many books, so little time, That's what I'm saying. But anyway, 1673 01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:16.159 it's called Honeybee Democracy. I'm gonna talk with her a 1674 01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:17.960 little bit about some of the things in that book 1675 01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:21.479 as well. But if you are wanting to have your 1676 01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:25.000 mind belong on the world of honeybees and how they 1677 01:31:25.079 --> 01:31:27.720 communicate and what they do and how they make decisions, 1678 01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:32.880 and even how that applies to human decision making, it is. 1679 01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:37.479 It's mind bodling. It's so cool. Anyway, I'd recommend that 1680 01:31:37.560 --> 01:31:43.760 book Honeybee Democracy really good one. I wanted to before 1681 01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:47.039 we do take a break here. The Plumerius Society of 1682 01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:51.640 America is having their annual show and sale right now 1683 01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:57.079 today at the Bay in Clearlake Bay Area Community Center. 1684 01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:00.239 It's on Nasa Road one in Seabrook, Texas, and they're 1685 01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:02.600 going to have a lot of plumeria growers with their 1686 01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:07.479 their lines and things out there. They you can join 1687 01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:10.159 the Plumera Society if you'd like to do that. Some 1688 01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:13.800 cool raffle tickets. But again, it started at nine am, 1689 01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:17.079 and oh it starts at nine am and it will 1690 01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:19.640 go until one pm. So after garden Line today head 1691 01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:23.439 over there. Head over to the Plumaria Society of America's 1692 01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:26.800 Show and sale. It is at the clear Lake Bay 1693 01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:32.479 Area Community Center on Nasa Road Highway Won in Seabrook, Texas. 1694 01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:35.520 You will love it, I have to warn you. Plummerias, 1695 01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:38.640 like a lot of other specific types of plants, are addictive. 1696 01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:41.399 You get in there and you start. Next thing, you know, 1697 01:32:42.399 --> 01:32:44.560 you know, Hawaii, you'll be calling you saying, hey, we're 1698 01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:46.800 running out of flowers, per lays, can you send us 1699 01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:49.680 some of yours? Because it's a lot of fun. A 1700 01:32:49.720 --> 01:32:54.319 lot of fun to do that. Well, I wanted to, Oh, 1701 01:32:54.479 --> 01:32:56.720 I know, I know what Moss Nursery. I had not 1702 01:32:57.159 --> 01:33:00.720 talked about Moss nurserying a bit. That is a cool 1703 01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:05.319 garden center. Moss Nursery is done in Seabrook, Texas. And listen, 1704 01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:08.640 this place has been around a very long time. Moss 1705 01:33:08.760 --> 01:33:14.399 Nursery eight acres to wander through eight acres and beautiful trees. 1706 01:33:14.399 --> 01:33:16.359 Don't worry about the heat. Just get out there. Lots 1707 01:33:16.399 --> 01:33:19.359 of shade trees. It's wonderful. When you go there, you 1708 01:33:19.479 --> 01:33:22.920 are going to find so much blank. They have some 1709 01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:26.680 of those wall planters for example. Uh, they're just some 1710 01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:29.399 of them are like Mexican tallavera, you know, with all 1711 01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:32.359 the colors and painting and everything. Others are more plain 1712 01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:35.039 and they attached to a wall. And then you just 1713 01:33:35.279 --> 01:33:38.840 plant something that cascades down, you know, maybe a string 1714 01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:42.000 of fill in the blank succulent. It may be something 1715 01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:46.560 like a dichondra, the silver pony foot dichondra is beautiful 1716 01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:49.239 for that. Do you have shady areas, You're not going 1717 01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:52.119 to find a better coalladium supply than at Moss Nursery 1718 01:33:52.159 --> 01:33:56.520 and Seabrook or or Colius for that matter. You just 1719 01:33:56.640 --> 01:33:59.359 need to go check them out. They're on Toddville Road 1720 01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:03.239 and Seabrook, Texas. Here's the website, Moss Nursery dot com. 1721 01:34:03.399 --> 01:34:07.920 Moss is spelled m a A S m a a 1722 01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:14.239 S Nursery dot com. I was in their greenhouse for houseplants. 1723 01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:20.439 I always go there and their selection is unbelievable and 1724 01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:24.079 they have everything from little starter plants like if you 1725 01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:25.920 just you know, want to kind of go get started, 1726 01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:28.039 and maybe a string of pearls or something like that 1727 01:34:28.119 --> 01:34:29.359 you want to just get a little plant for that, 1728 01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:34.439 or if you want like this giant staghorn fern hanging 1729 01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:37.680 from a chain under your trees, you can buy that there. 1730 01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:40.439 I mean, they've got it all, succulents, you name it. 1731 01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:46.239 Their pottery selection is incredible too, really really nice selection 1732 01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:49.439 of pottery. They know what they're doing, they know how 1733 01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:51.640 to take care of things. Let's head out on the phones. 1734 01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:54.920 We're going to go now to Northwest Houston and talk 1735 01:34:54.960 --> 01:34:57.479 to Rosemary. Hey, Rosemary, welcome to garden Line. 1736 01:34:58.399 --> 01:35:01.720 Thank you for taking my call. We recently bought a 1737 01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:05.560 small plumbia and we would like to repot it into 1738 01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:09.920 a larger pot and we are wondering what soil we 1739 01:35:09.960 --> 01:35:12.279 could put it in. I did look on the Plumbia 1740 01:35:12.439 --> 01:35:15.880 Society site and it seemed to want you to buy 1741 01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:18.520 three different products and mix them together, and it didn't 1742 01:35:18.680 --> 01:35:23.880 even give what proportions of each one. So yeah, rather 1743 01:35:24.199 --> 01:35:26.239 buy three products, we'd love to be able to just 1744 01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:27.800 buy one thing and put it in it. 1745 01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:32.640 So any any suggestion, right, Well, Plumeria is are you 1746 01:35:32.720 --> 01:35:35.119 know they store a lot of moisture in their trunks 1747 01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:39.680 and leaves and everything. They need a well drained soil. 1748 01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:41.359 They don't want to be in a swamp. So I 1749 01:35:41.439 --> 01:35:43.680 didn't I have them beento that site to look at 1750 01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:45.760 their mix. But I'm sure it's got some chunky pearl 1751 01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.079 light or something like that, and it probably there are 1752 01:35:48.279 --> 01:35:51.000 white things that you see in potting soil and you 1753 01:35:51.039 --> 01:35:53.560 can buy those by a small bag at any garden center. 1754 01:35:53.680 --> 01:35:55.600 You know, you probably find them at Ace hardware stores 1755 01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:57.880 and other places like that. So you can take a 1756 01:35:57.960 --> 01:36:01.239 standard potting soil. I might take the one, and Airline 1757 01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:06.000 Soils has a standard one type of potting soil, and 1758 01:36:06.119 --> 01:36:09.399 then they've got one for succulents that is a little 1759 01:36:09.479 --> 01:36:12.439 grittier that would also work well, and you could even 1760 01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:14.399 put a little bit of pearlite in those if you 1761 01:36:14.479 --> 01:36:16.680 wanted to loosen them up just a little bit more. 1762 01:36:17.279 --> 01:36:19.760 Just know that your potting soils break down over time 1763 01:36:20.359 --> 01:36:23.000 and they go from being kind of a looser, chunkier 1764 01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:28.960 to more of a mucky, decomposed down material, so occasionally 1765 01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:30.840 you're going to have to kind of spruce those up 1766 01:36:30.840 --> 01:36:33.840 a little bit. Plumarias are very tolerant of being being 1767 01:36:34.319 --> 01:36:37.960 messed with like that, right. I bet you've went to 1768 01:36:38.039 --> 01:36:40.479 the show and Sail today. I bet they'd have some 1769 01:36:40.600 --> 01:36:42.880 soils for sale down there too, Okay. 1770 01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:46.399 I know that we were pulling it out every winter 1771 01:36:46.600 --> 01:36:49.039 and probably storing it in the garage, so at that 1772 01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:52.640 point we could change out even the potting soil once 1773 01:36:52.720 --> 01:36:56.119 a year. And yes, okay, so that would probably be 1774 01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:56.920 a good idea. 1775 01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:57.159 To do that. 1776 01:36:57.600 --> 01:37:00.239 That's what I would do. I think that it's going 1777 01:37:00.319 --> 01:37:04.920 to be your best bet on those, so yeah, just 1778 01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:07.000 do that. I would. I would do the airloom soils 1779 01:37:07.800 --> 01:37:11.840 potting soil, and probably the succulent type of mix would 1780 01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:13.279 be good, and maybe add a little bit of pearl 1781 01:37:13.359 --> 01:37:15.960 like to it, which is easy to find. Okay, Rosemary. 1782 01:37:16.039 --> 01:37:18.640 Thank you for the call. I appreciate that. Enjoy those 1783 01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:22.600 plume areas that you have. We're gonna go real quick, 1784 01:37:22.880 --> 01:37:25.840 George and Jersey Village. I just got about thirty seconds here, 1785 01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:27.159 but let's see if we can help you with those 1786 01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:28.800 tomato plants. What's your question? 1787 01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:30.880 Okay, they're cherry tomato. 1788 01:37:30.960 --> 01:37:33.199 They're absolutely delicious. I don't know what time they are, 1789 01:37:33.960 --> 01:37:36.039 but their skin outside is like shoe leather. 1790 01:37:38.279 --> 01:37:42.239 Gotcha, I know it's no what you got. It's the heat, George. 1791 01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:45.039 It's the heat and that happens. It just you can't 1792 01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:48.720 stop it. There's nothing to fix it. It's just the 1793 01:37:48.840 --> 01:37:51.720 temperatures we're dealing with. You chew on the tomatoes and 1794 01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:55.520 spit out the cellophane. That's about the best advice that 1795 01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:57.800 I can get you. There's not a not a fix, 1796 01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:01.000 but thank you. I appreciate that call. And at least 1797 01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:03.359 with cherry tomates, you have fruit in the summer. That's 1798 01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:05.680 the plus on those folks. We're going to take a break. 1799 01:38:05.720 --> 01:38:09.239 We'll be right back with doctor Juliana Rangell. All right, 1800 01:38:09.479 --> 01:38:13.279 welcome back to Garden Line. I'm your host, Skip Richter, 1801 01:38:13.479 --> 01:38:15.880 and we are here to help you have a bountiful garden, 1802 01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:19.560 a beautiful landscape, and more fun in the process. Don't 1803 01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:21.880 forget that last part. It's supposed to be fun. Well, 1804 01:38:21.960 --> 01:38:26.000 I am privileged this morning to have doctor Jilliana Rangell 1805 01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:29.840 as my guest. Welcome to Guarden Line, Doctor Engele, it's 1806 01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:30.439 good to have you here. 1807 01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:31.199 Thank you so much. 1808 01:38:31.279 --> 01:38:33.560 Skip Now we have talked on a different radio station 1809 01:38:33.720 --> 01:38:36.800 long time ago. Doctor Angel is a bee researcher, and 1810 01:38:36.880 --> 01:38:39.239 I'm going to let you tell them about what you 1811 01:38:39.399 --> 01:38:42.279 do and some of the interests. 1812 01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:42.520 That you have. 1813 01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:43.319 Yeah. 1814 01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:48.039 Sure, I'm professor of apaculture in the Department of Entomology 1815 01:38:48.079 --> 01:38:51.439 at Texas A and M University here in college station, all. 1816 01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:56.479 Right, and you do various kinds of things, specifically kind 1817 01:38:56.520 --> 01:38:57.880 of focusing on honeybees. 1818 01:38:58.199 --> 01:38:58.600 That's right. 1819 01:38:58.720 --> 01:38:59.279 So I am. 1820 01:38:59.479 --> 01:39:03.359 They be research faculty at A and M. 1821 01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:07.680 We recently hired someone for the first time ever in 1822 01:39:07.800 --> 01:39:10.720 the history I think of Texas A and M Agrilife 1823 01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:16.239 that is doing apiculture extension. Okay, but I am basically 1824 01:39:17.399 --> 01:39:22.279 sixty percent research, thirty percent teaching at the college level, 1825 01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:24.600 and service ten percent service. 1826 01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:26.039 So the smallest the research that. 1827 01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:26.720 We do in the lab. 1828 01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:27.560 So for those of you. 1829 01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:30.239 I'm familiar with the line Grende system. We have a 1830 01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:34.319 researching component, a research component, a teaching component, and an 1831 01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:37.760 extension component. An extension basically is taken the university of 1832 01:39:37.840 --> 01:39:40.239 the people. Wherever you live in the two hundred and 1833 01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:43.319 fifty four counties of Texas, there's an extension office that 1834 01:39:43.399 --> 01:39:47.000 serves you, and the agents there have access to our 1835 01:39:47.079 --> 01:39:50.840 specialists at the university and at various centers across the state. 1836 01:39:51.520 --> 01:39:53.479 And so that's kind of that. I like the way 1837 01:39:53.560 --> 01:39:56.479 that they give us percentages, but really it's one hundred 1838 01:39:56.479 --> 01:40:00.760 percent this one hundred percent and undred that's exactly right. Yes, 1839 01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:05.239 those percentages don't stay in their boxes very well. That's 1840 01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:06.119 well good. 1841 01:40:06.720 --> 01:40:06.920 Well. 1842 01:40:07.680 --> 01:40:10.960 I had asked doctor Rangel to come on the show 1843 01:40:11.279 --> 01:40:15.079 today because I was listening to a book called honeybe Democracy, 1844 01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:19.239 and I don't even know how to describe that book. 1845 01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:22.359 But for those of you who are not knowledgeable about bees, 1846 01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:26.359 you know, like doctor angell Is, you listen to it 1847 01:40:26.439 --> 01:40:29.319 and you just go that just blows my mind. I 1848 01:40:29.439 --> 01:40:32.600 had no idea, I had no idea, and the ways 1849 01:40:32.680 --> 01:40:35.680 that they figure out how bees decide and think and 1850 01:40:35.800 --> 01:40:38.680 do what they do, it's just fascinating. But anyways, listen 1851 01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:40.760 to this book on tape driving down there, and all 1852 01:40:40.760 --> 01:40:44.239 of a sudden he talks about his former graduate assistant. 1853 01:40:44.319 --> 01:40:47.560 I think doctor Wrangell is like, I know that lady, 1854 01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:50.399 and it reminded me to have Hey, I need to 1855 01:40:50.439 --> 01:40:52.720 have you come in and we need to talk sometimes. 1856 01:40:52.920 --> 01:40:53.680 That's a great book. 1857 01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:57.760 Yeah, it's a great book for basically almost anybody. It's 1858 01:40:57.840 --> 01:41:00.800 a you don't have to have any expert teasing bees. 1859 01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:04.560 You just want to have some curiosity about the natural world. 1860 01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:10.319 And Tom Seeley, who I'm lucky to call my PhD advisor. 1861 01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:16.239 He's a wonderful writer. So it just makes people understand 1862 01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:20.520 very difficult concepts in a very digestible, easy fun way. 1863 01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:23.319 He is an outstanding writer. And for those of you 1864 01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:25.239 who don't feel like you have time to sit down 1865 01:41:25.319 --> 01:41:28.479 for a book, do it on tape, because I'm telling 1866 01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:30.760 you it is the easiest listening. If you got a 1867 01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:33.560 four hour trip you're going somewhere, well you need to 1868 01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:36.640 make that trip about two or three times, but you 1869 01:41:36.880 --> 01:41:38.560 just need to plug that in and listen to it. 1870 01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:40.960 It is so cool. So I was one of the 1871 01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:43.399 things he talks about in the book, I never I'd 1872 01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:46.760 never wondered how bees find a place to live and 1873 01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:48.960 decide if they should live there and stuff. But if 1874 01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:53.039 you think about this, folks, you're honeybees and your colony 1875 01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:55.319 is expanding, and it's time for one queen to go 1876 01:41:55.479 --> 01:41:59.960 off with some of the colony and find a new home. 1877 01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:03.079 How do they find that home and how do they decide? 1878 01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:04.760 You know, the whole colitay doesn't fly all over the 1879 01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:07.279 place checking out each hone. They have people that people 1880 01:42:08.479 --> 01:42:11.600 I'm gonna anthropomorphized a lot on bees, I'm sorry, But 1881 01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:14.720 they go out and they find places, and they have 1882 01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:18.000 ways of measuring how big they are, because if the colony, 1883 01:42:18.279 --> 01:42:22.600 if the cavity quality or quantity isn't large enough, they're 1884 01:42:22.640 --> 01:42:23.960 not going to be able to throw up enough honey 1885 01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:25.760 to make through the winter and other things. I'm sitting 1886 01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:28.279 here talking like I'm telling talking right, I'm telling you, 1887 01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:32.119 But how did that When those bees come back, how 1888 01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:34.640 do they tell the colony about that place? And what 1889 01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:36.399 if five bees come back and they all have a 1890 01:42:36.439 --> 01:42:38.840 different place they think is where they should live. How 1891 01:42:38.880 --> 01:42:41.680 do they decide? And in the process of this book, 1892 01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:43.760 you're not just going to learn about honey bees. But 1893 01:42:43.800 --> 01:42:46.119 you're gonna learn some very interesting things. He does such 1894 01:42:46.159 --> 01:42:49.760 a great job of showing how even our human decision 1895 01:42:49.840 --> 01:42:54.439 making can be can be beneficially influenced by what we've 1896 01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:55.479 learned from the bee world. 1897 01:42:56.079 --> 01:42:56.279 Yeah. 1898 01:42:56.399 --> 01:43:00.520 One of the interesting and nowog things but that he 1899 01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:06.640 talks about is that honeybees are all working towards the 1900 01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:09.359 same goal because they're highly genetically related. 1901 01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:10.720 They're all basically sisters. 1902 01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:13.800 All the workers in the colony are daughters of the 1903 01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:17.199 same mother queen, and so they have all the same 1904 01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:22.800 interests and they work together for the benefit of the colony. 1905 01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:26.840 And we definitely can learn a lot from bees and 1906 01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:31.840 trying to build in a more communal way. 1907 01:43:32.439 --> 01:43:35.359 Yeah, you know, we have different opinions, like I think 1908 01:43:35.479 --> 01:43:38.000 this is great, but you haven't seen that thing. And 1909 01:43:38.199 --> 01:43:40.000 you think that is great and I haven't seen that thing. 1910 01:43:40.079 --> 01:43:43.279 So how does it not become about me? I want 1911 01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:44.880 my place to be the one that with How does 1912 01:43:44.920 --> 01:43:47.880 it become what is really the best decision in this group? 1913 01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:52.039 And boyd, could we ever improve on that aspect? 1914 01:43:52.520 --> 01:43:52.680 Yeah? 1915 01:43:52.760 --> 01:43:56.920 The decision making process of what is talked about in 1916 01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:02.279 honeybee democracy. He Doctor C talks about town hall meetings, 1917 01:44:02.399 --> 01:44:06.279 and how we could learn from the bees in how 1918 01:44:06.359 --> 01:44:12.000 to proceed with those types of decision making processes using humans. 1919 01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:12.840 So it's really interesting. 1920 01:44:13.479 --> 01:44:16.560 Yeah, I can tell you about the story of how 1921 01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:18.520 bees move into their new home. 1922 01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:19.359 It's fascinating. 1923 01:44:19.439 --> 01:44:21.520 Actually, well, why why don't we do a little bit 1924 01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:23.199 about that. I tell you. One of the things in 1925 01:44:23.239 --> 01:44:25.720 the book that fascinated me, as you know, a science 1926 01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:29.880 manu person, was the things they did to figure out 1927 01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:33.520 the answers to the questions, like the part where they 1928 01:44:34.359 --> 01:44:39.000 glued down a little certain gland flap over the bees 1929 01:44:39.119 --> 01:44:42.439 body so they could exclude that from being the way 1930 01:44:42.600 --> 01:44:44.560 that they put a pheromone or something out, you know, 1931 01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:49.399 and coming to the it's like these guys are thinkers. Yeah, fascinating. 1932 01:44:50.239 --> 01:44:55.000 Yeah, So we had the bees have so many glands 1933 01:44:55.039 --> 01:45:00.520 on their bodies to produce so many pheromones, and so 1934 01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:04.079 if you want to know if a certain pheromone has 1935 01:45:04.119 --> 01:45:07.920 to deal with a specific type of behavior, then you 1936 01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:15.840 have you have to block those glands from releasing the 1937 01:45:15.880 --> 01:45:17.800 pharaomon and see if you get the same result. 1938 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:21.560 Yeah, yeah, that is fascinating. Well, you know how I 1939 01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:23.239 hate to have to take a break when we're right 1940 01:45:23.239 --> 01:45:25.119 in the middle of a great conversation. We're gonna take 1941 01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:27.760 a little break here, go to a quick break. Call 1942 01:45:27.800 --> 01:45:29.640 your friends and tell them to tune in the Garden Line. 1943 01:45:29.640 --> 01:45:31.279 They got to hear this stuff. We've got some really 1944 01:45:31.359 --> 01:45:33.359 cool stuff coming up. I promise you you're gonna love it. 1945 01:45:33.399 --> 01:45:35.399 And also get your kids. Your kids need to know 1946 01:45:35.479 --> 01:45:38.399 about these things. We'll be right back all right, Das, 1947 01:45:38.439 --> 01:45:40.399 Welcome back to garden Line. Good to have you with us. 1948 01:45:40.520 --> 01:45:43.479 If you just tuned in, we're talking to doctor Julian Rangel. 1949 01:45:44.399 --> 01:45:47.880 Julana is a researcher in bees and also a teacher 1950 01:45:47.880 --> 01:45:50.920 at Texa and M University in the entomology department, and 1951 01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:53.399 we are picking her brain as best we can this morning, 1952 01:45:54.439 --> 01:45:56.359 and we're going to tie this back not just to 1953 01:45:56.439 --> 01:46:00.800 the fascination of bees, which is alone. I could talk 1954 01:46:00.840 --> 01:46:03.159 for a week with her really just picking her brain 1955 01:46:03.239 --> 01:46:06.479 on that, but on what do we do as gardeners 1956 01:46:06.600 --> 01:46:09.479 because of what we know now about bees? And doctor Ango, 1957 01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:11.920 would you talk a little bit about some of the 1958 01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:15.439 work that you're doing, some of the research that you're doing, 1959 01:46:15.640 --> 01:46:18.439 and then maybe we'll do some application of that from 1960 01:46:18.439 --> 01:46:19.479 a home garden standpoint. 1961 01:46:19.880 --> 01:46:22.760 Sure, so we have a lot of different projects going 1962 01:46:22.800 --> 01:46:26.600 on in the lab at all times. I have anywhere 1963 01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:29.840 from two to five graduate students working on different projects 1964 01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:32.720 at any given time. But right now, the most exciting 1965 01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:39.119 project is a USDA funded grant that is exploring the 1966 01:46:39.600 --> 01:46:45.279 effect of diet on honeybee health at the individual and 1967 01:46:45.359 --> 01:46:50.600 the colony level. So we have a postdoctoral researcher, doctor 1968 01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:56.600 Kanan Money and a graduate student Gustafa working with my colleague, 1969 01:46:56.720 --> 01:47:01.880 doctor Spence Beemer, who is a nutrition ecologists in the 1970 01:47:01.960 --> 01:47:08.039 Department of Entomology, looking at the quality of the food 1971 01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:12.239 that the bees are collecting in a different landscape level. 1972 01:47:12.319 --> 01:47:17.800 So we have agricultural landscapes, rural landscapes, and urban landscapes, 1973 01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:22.760 and so we're collecting pollen from well, we put pollen 1974 01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:25.479 traps on the colonies to collect the pollen that they 1975 01:47:25.560 --> 01:47:29.880 are getting around their colonies. And then we're doing performing 1976 01:47:30.199 --> 01:47:35.520 the all the nutritional content analysis, elemental analysis fatty acid 1977 01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:39.960 analysis of all these pollens, looking at protein content and 1978 01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:44.840 lipid content, carbohydrate content at different times of the year. 1979 01:47:45.720 --> 01:47:46.680 And so we find that. 1980 01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:51.800 Not surprisingly that the quality of food varies depending on 1981 01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:58.600 the location. Actually, urban sites have a decent amount of 1982 01:47:58.720 --> 01:48:02.399 nutritional quality, which you would sometimes think, well, maybe not 1983 01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:04.600 an urban settings, there's a whole lot of variety, but 1984 01:48:04.680 --> 01:48:10.119 there actually is variety around urban areas in Houston actually 1985 01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:16.760 where we collect our urban urban sites, but that the 1986 01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:19.439 nutritional quality changes throughout the year. 1987 01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:23.680 So what what what is this leading us to kind 1988 01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:26.439 of understand in terms of like, let's say I'm a 1989 01:48:26.479 --> 01:48:29.600 gardener and I want to support honey bees or maybe 1990 01:48:30.039 --> 01:48:33.039 a bee keeper in the backyard, and so what does 1991 01:48:33.199 --> 01:48:35.600 the kind of information you guys are learning as you 1992 01:48:35.680 --> 01:48:40.199 do this really ongoing research? Uh, tell us about how 1993 01:48:40.239 --> 01:48:41.840 do we plant? 1994 01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:47.439 Yeah, the the key is diversity. Diversity, plant diversity. You 1995 01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:52.199 want polyfloral diets at all times of the year. 1996 01:48:53.079 --> 01:48:54.119 So the spring is the. 1997 01:48:55.760 --> 01:49:02.880 Time of a bountiful garden and wildlinscape. We all know that, 1998 01:49:03.880 --> 01:49:08.520 but we need to pay close attention to summer months 1999 01:49:08.800 --> 01:49:13.079 in the fall and provide bees with not just diverse pollen, 2000 01:49:13.199 --> 01:49:17.199 but also large enough patches of the same resource so 2001 01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:21.079 that they can come get something really good to eat 2002 01:49:21.439 --> 01:49:24.239 and then go and communicate it to their nest mate 2003 01:49:24.279 --> 01:49:26.960 so that they can come in a bigger group to 2004 01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:30.880 collect from the same nutritional plant. 2005 01:49:31.039 --> 01:49:32.439 Because if you only have one or. 2006 01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:37.439 Two little flowers per per plant type, then the bees 2007 01:49:37.439 --> 01:49:39.760 are just gonna get like a little taste, but they 2008 01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:43.079 can't get enough that is a you know, a large 2009 01:49:43.159 --> 01:49:46.680 enough amount for it to be worth it nutritionally in 2010 01:49:46.760 --> 01:49:47.279 the colony. 2011 01:49:47.439 --> 01:49:54.159 So bigger patches of polyfloral seasonal diets, it's the key. 2012 01:49:54.600 --> 01:49:57.159 So a variety of different kind of like us, we 2013 01:49:57.199 --> 01:50:00.960 shouldn't just eat hamburgers. We need to make our diet up, uh, 2014 01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:04.359 and so doing that and then you mentioned something about 2015 01:50:05.119 --> 01:50:08.000 user word patches. A lot of times as gardeners, you know, 2016 01:50:08.079 --> 01:50:10.439 we go to the garden center and we buy a zennion, 2017 01:50:10.600 --> 01:50:13.239 we buy a petunia, and you know, just a few 2018 01:50:13.279 --> 01:50:17.319 flowers and for the bees, that's like there's not a 2019 01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:21.359 lot there right quantity wise. So to use a really 2020 01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:24.239 silly analogy, it's like we need to turn our backyard 2021 01:50:24.279 --> 01:50:27.479 into a Bucky's where when you drive in, you drive out, 2022 01:50:27.560 --> 01:50:29.840 you tell your friends you got to go to that place. 2023 01:50:30.319 --> 01:50:34.439 You have got to go check in clean bathrooms, clean bathrooms. 2024 01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:39.000 I don't know beesney bathrooms. But you want to create 2025 01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:42.520 a garden that they feel that way about, meaning they 2026 01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:45.199 go back to the hive and there's a lot. And 2027 01:50:45.359 --> 01:50:48.319 I've noticed in my garden that there are some plants 2028 01:50:48.479 --> 01:50:52.399 that are just good bee plants. Now, now we say 2029 01:50:52.439 --> 01:50:55.000 bees as if it's one thing, but we're talking primarily 2030 01:50:55.039 --> 01:50:55.840 honey bees right. 2031 01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:58.920 Now, but old types of bees pollinators. 2032 01:50:59.079 --> 01:51:03.319 Yeah, and we are finding in our research that bees 2033 01:51:03.359 --> 01:51:07.359 actually get to decide what food they go for. So 2034 01:51:07.520 --> 01:51:11.760 they're not they're not randomly eating. I mean, one thing 2035 01:51:11.880 --> 01:51:14.800 is whatever is available at that time of day of 2036 01:51:15.239 --> 01:51:19.399 you know, in March or April or May. But out 2037 01:51:19.439 --> 01:51:22.720 of what's available, they're actually picking and choosing based on 2038 01:51:23.079 --> 01:51:26.319 the nutritional quality of the food. Okay, so they're not 2039 01:51:26.439 --> 01:51:30.600 eating at random or equal amounts of every food. They 2040 01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:35.119 actually kind of shop around for nutrients that they may 2041 01:51:35.199 --> 01:51:38.000 be lacking, really, and so they go and get it 2042 01:51:38.199 --> 01:51:41.239 from from whatever plant is providing that. 2043 01:51:41.479 --> 01:51:43.479 I would I would not make a good bee. I 2044 01:51:43.920 --> 01:51:46.520 have my favorites, you know. I mean, if enchiladas I 2045 01:51:46.520 --> 01:51:48.399 could live on those and nothing, I could have them 2046 01:51:48.439 --> 01:51:52.039 for breakfast. So that's interesting that they that they go 2047 01:51:52.159 --> 01:51:55.479 out and that they do that so a little bit. 2048 01:51:56.239 --> 01:52:00.800 See we've got three minutes here or less before the 2049 01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:05.680 next break. But you were talking about how bees decide 2050 01:52:05.880 --> 01:52:07.960 where they're going to go and do things. So tell 2051 01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:10.560 us a little bit about the process of like food finding, 2052 01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:13.119 and then whybe'll come back to food finding. 2053 01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:17.960 So when a forager bee which is the name for 2054 01:52:18.079 --> 01:52:22.560 those that collect food, finds a nutritional source like either pollen, 2055 01:52:22.800 --> 01:52:25.520 which is the source of protein for honeybees, or nectar, 2056 01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:29.159 which is a source of carbohydrates, they want to tell 2057 01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:31.359 others that there's a really good food source. So they 2058 01:52:31.439 --> 01:52:34.520 come back to the colony and they perform something called 2059 01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:40.119 the waggle dance. Calvon Frish received a Nobel Price in 2060 01:52:40.479 --> 01:52:44.279 Medicine and Physiology for his discoveries of the waggle dance 2061 01:52:44.359 --> 01:52:49.840 in nineteen seventy three. Yes, it's an a shaped motion 2062 01:52:50.159 --> 01:52:53.319 that has a waggle phase component in the middle of. 2063 01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:55.000 The eight shaped figure. 2064 01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:59.880 The duration of that waggle phase is correlated with the 2065 01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:03.119 distance to which the which the food is located and 2066 01:53:03.319 --> 01:53:05.279 the angle of that. 2067 01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:09.880 Waggle phase. It's not random, it's exactly. 2068 01:53:11.359 --> 01:53:14.319 Correlated with the direction at which the food is and 2069 01:53:14.439 --> 01:53:17.479 so they can communicate exactly where that BUCkies is. 2070 01:53:17.680 --> 01:53:21.119 So you're inside a dark hive and I'm already blown 2071 01:53:21.199 --> 01:53:23.640 by the fact that they can make perfect six sided 2072 01:53:23.960 --> 01:53:27.000 uniform containers and straight lines in the dark. I couldn't 2073 01:53:27.039 --> 01:53:27.920 do that with the lights on. 2074 01:53:28.640 --> 01:53:28.760 Uh. 2075 01:53:29.119 --> 01:53:31.600 And but they're doing this dance and the bees are 2076 01:53:31.640 --> 01:53:33.720 watching the dance at the angle of it, so when 2077 01:53:33.720 --> 01:53:36.880 they leave the hive, they know, you know, how far 2078 01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:40.560 to fly. And then the I think what I learned 2079 01:53:40.560 --> 01:53:44.399 from honeybee democracy is their excitement and the number of 2080 01:53:44.479 --> 01:53:47.560 times they cycle this dance also is like, are going 2081 01:53:48.359 --> 01:53:50.199 you guys have got to see this BUCkies. You know, 2082 01:53:50.479 --> 01:53:51.319 it's more than just. 2083 01:53:51.680 --> 01:53:56.000 The figure of the dance. How many times they do 2084 01:53:56.239 --> 01:54:01.680 this dance per unit time. How excited they are is shown. 2085 01:54:02.079 --> 01:54:04.840 And also the smell that they have on their body 2086 01:54:05.439 --> 01:54:09.079 tells them, well, there's the petunia that we're going for. 2087 01:54:09.720 --> 01:54:12.439 Because the smell of the pollen on their body is 2088 01:54:12.560 --> 01:54:14.720 kind of telling them, well, when you get close in, 2089 01:54:15.600 --> 01:54:16.520 go for this smell. 2090 01:54:16.640 --> 01:54:17.880 And that's the one that I'm that's. 2091 01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:23.640 Amazing, that's amazing. Well, gosh, when it comes to the 2092 01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:29.239 bees and the bringing them into the garden, I've noticed 2093 01:54:29.239 --> 01:54:31.159 certain kinds of flowers. And I got to stop hearing 2094 01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:35.319 about ten seconds of music from start playing. We'll keep 2095 01:54:35.359 --> 01:54:38.079 talking into the music, but I found some that the 2096 01:54:38.199 --> 01:54:41.920 bees just really really love. They like Munarda, which is 2097 01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:47.359 bee bomb or bird. They love the basils. There's a 2098 01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:49.920 basil called African blue that just makes a big bush 2099 01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:52.199 full of flowers and it is loaded with bees all 2100 01:54:52.239 --> 01:54:55.399 the time. There's I know, the vitext they used to 2101 01:54:55.399 --> 01:54:58.359 call a beekeeper's fround because it's blooming now and bees 2102 01:54:58.520 --> 01:55:01.039 and there's a lot of itexts around. 2103 01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:04.520 I haven't ten of those in my oh yeah house. 2104 01:55:04.800 --> 01:55:07.640 Yeah, and they love them. So there's things we can 2105 01:55:07.720 --> 01:55:11.039 plant that are special favorites of them that would be good. 2106 01:55:12.239 --> 01:55:16.119 And then en mass there is another thing you've talked about, 2107 01:55:16.199 --> 01:55:18.640 so not just a few flowers and then covering the season. 2108 01:55:18.800 --> 01:55:19.439 So that's right. 2109 01:55:19.680 --> 01:55:21.680 We won't have time to go into all the flowers 2110 01:55:21.720 --> 01:55:23.800 here today during an interview, but as we go on 2111 01:55:23.920 --> 01:55:25.760 on guard Line, I'm gonna talk about that more in 2112 01:55:25.880 --> 01:55:28.680 the weeks to come about what are the flowers for 2113 01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:31.880 summer and fall and even the cool seasons of the year. 2114 01:55:31.960 --> 01:55:33.800 The bees aren't as acted, but they are out and 2115 01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:35.560 about a bit. Yeah in our content. 2116 01:55:35.880 --> 01:55:40.159 As long as they're the temperature is warm enough, maybe 2117 01:55:40.199 --> 01:55:44.479 above fifty degrees, they will go and get food. 2118 01:55:45.239 --> 01:55:50.920 Sounds good. We'll be right back, folks. Don't go away. Hey, 2119 01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:52.000 welcome back to Guardline. 2120 01:55:52.039 --> 01:55:52.319 Folks. 2121 01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:55.119 I'm okay right to say shirt because I want to 2122 01:55:55.159 --> 01:55:58.319 every second we possibly can with our guests this morning. 2123 01:55:58.880 --> 01:56:02.399 Doctor Julian Range is ab researcher at Texas A and 2124 01:56:02.600 --> 01:56:05.520 M Agrilife at TEXA and M University. She's also a 2125 01:56:05.600 --> 01:56:09.720 professor there at the campus, and we're visiting with her 2126 01:56:09.760 --> 01:56:13.800 about all things bees, specifically honeybees, but bees in general. 2127 01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:16.359 And I wanted to come back. We were talking about 2128 01:56:16.399 --> 01:56:19.760 honeybee democracy and you were discussing the waggle dance and 2129 01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:22.880 how it says, hey, these flowers are so awesome. There's 2130 01:56:22.920 --> 01:56:26.800 a BUCkies. I'm beside myself over there. You got to 2131 01:56:26.800 --> 01:56:28.640 all go to this one place and all the bees 2132 01:56:28.760 --> 01:56:33.239 know exactly where to go, and that's nice. What other 2133 01:56:33.399 --> 01:56:36.479 kinds of things about the waggle dance and stuff that 2134 01:56:36.680 --> 01:56:39.439 someone who's reading that book could learn possible? 2135 01:56:39.520 --> 01:56:41.760 Yeah, Well, surprisingly. 2136 01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:45.159 The bees will use the same language the waggle dance 2137 01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:49.720 to communicate the location not of food, but of potential 2138 01:56:49.800 --> 01:56:54.680 home sites, so colonies. We call them super organisms because 2139 01:56:54.680 --> 01:56:57.840 they live there almost like imagine each little bee is 2140 01:56:58.720 --> 01:57:01.000 like a cell in a body in an organism, they 2141 01:57:01.039 --> 01:57:04.600 can live on their own. So the whole colony as 2142 01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:07.920 a whole, when it reproduces, it needs to split into 2143 01:57:07.960 --> 01:57:10.039 two units. And so that's what we call a swarm, 2144 01:57:10.479 --> 01:57:14.239 which you find on tree branches in the spring and summer. 2145 01:57:14.800 --> 01:57:19.479 So the colony decides to split because it was too large. 2146 01:57:19.600 --> 01:57:21.840 The mother queen generally is the one that leaves with 2147 01:57:22.079 --> 01:57:24.680 about three quarters of the workers. They stay in that 2148 01:57:25.399 --> 01:57:29.520 cluster in place. We call it the BiVO whac and 2149 01:57:31.159 --> 01:57:34.439 they can stay in that BiVO whac for a few 2150 01:57:34.680 --> 01:57:38.479 hours to a few days, it depends on the decision 2151 01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:41.840 making process. And so there's about only three to five 2152 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:45.359 percent of the bees in that swarm are active, and 2153 01:57:45.479 --> 01:57:49.279 they're called nest site scouts, so in not like they're 2154 01:57:49.479 --> 01:57:51.920 like food scouts, but in this case they're looking for 2155 01:57:52.119 --> 01:57:55.479 potential home sites and they are the ones that are 2156 01:57:55.600 --> 01:58:01.079 active and looking for potential three cavities, while the rest 2157 01:58:01.159 --> 01:58:04.319 of the colony in the swarm, ninety seven percent of 2158 01:58:04.399 --> 01:58:10.319 them are cool quiescent, just kind of letting the knowledgeable 2159 01:58:10.359 --> 01:58:15.439 scouts decide and they start finding places and then if 2160 01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:18.720 they like that place, because they have ways to measure 2161 01:58:18.840 --> 01:58:24.479 the size, the size of the cavity, the entrance size, 2162 01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:29.600 the height above ground, if it's drafty or if there's 2163 01:58:30.479 --> 01:58:34.960 if it's wet, whatever that is. They kind of assess quality, 2164 01:58:35.239 --> 01:58:37.119 come back and they're like, this is a really good place. 2165 01:58:37.199 --> 01:58:40.159 They start performing that waggle dance, and so other bees 2166 01:58:40.279 --> 01:58:45.800 will follow. They will get recruited to that side, and 2167 01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:49.960 they themselves visited and the side by themselves if it's 2168 01:58:50.039 --> 01:58:52.640 worth advertising or not. 2169 01:58:53.279 --> 01:58:55.560 And then they keep doing these waggle dance. 2170 01:58:55.600 --> 01:58:57.960 But they could be doing the waggle dance for several 2171 01:58:58.640 --> 01:59:01.000 locations at the same time time on that. 2172 01:59:02.600 --> 01:59:03.279 On that swarm. 2173 01:59:04.319 --> 01:59:09.119 But each of these dancers does only as a finite 2174 01:59:09.199 --> 01:59:13.520 number of dances. It's like the performance is only maybe 2175 01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:17.119 about seven, six or seven times that they will do 2176 01:59:17.199 --> 01:59:20.119 the waggle dance, and then they stop. And so the 2177 01:59:20.199 --> 01:59:24.079 ones that are have the most vigorous dancers recruit the 2178 01:59:24.239 --> 01:59:26.800 more bees, and each one of those bees is going 2179 01:59:26.880 --> 01:59:30.600 to perform the waggle dance six times that they stop. 2180 01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:35.000 So the ones that the location that's most favorable is 2181 01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:40.720 gonna get the highest number of dances, and therefore it's 2182 01:59:40.760 --> 01:59:45.760 gonna get the favoritism of the of the scouts until 2183 01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:48.359 they basically come down to one location. 2184 01:59:48.560 --> 01:59:52.680 So that's like a consensus concessus building. And because of 2185 01:59:52.760 --> 01:59:55.680 that process, they very seldom get it wrong. 2186 01:59:56.159 --> 02:00:00.720 Exactly, it's about it's about eighty of the time they 2187 02:00:00.760 --> 02:00:01.239 get it right. 2188 02:00:01.560 --> 02:00:03.439 Okay, it's not every time. 2189 02:00:03.680 --> 02:00:06.439 It's also not the first one they find. It's never 2190 02:00:06.640 --> 02:00:09.760 the or not necessarily the best one or the one 2191 02:00:09.840 --> 02:00:11.479 that they will go for. It could even be the 2192 02:00:11.560 --> 02:00:13.800 last one they found that they found to be the 2193 02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:16.920 best quality one and they will move into Wow, that 2194 02:00:17.119 --> 02:00:17.520 is cool. 2195 02:00:17.960 --> 02:00:19.840 And then they had that way and that starts a 2196 02:00:19.880 --> 02:00:23.439 whole other fascinating process, which is swarm moves through the air, 2197 02:00:24.479 --> 02:00:25.720 and how does. 2198 02:00:26.079 --> 02:00:26.920 Those same bees. 2199 02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.039 So if you see a swarm and you think, wow, 2200 02:00:29.159 --> 02:00:33.800 this is like a very chaotic cloud of lost bees. 2201 02:00:34.319 --> 02:00:38.359 But in reality, those same scouts that know where the 2202 02:00:38.479 --> 02:00:43.640 new home is act as streakers. And so they did 2203 02:00:43.680 --> 02:00:46.000 the study where they could follow those bees and they're 2204 02:00:46.039 --> 02:00:49.319 actually not moving at random. They are going back and 2205 02:00:49.439 --> 02:00:52.319 forth in a bees line, kind of leading the way 2206 02:00:52.439 --> 02:00:54.119 to where they should all move. 2207 02:00:54.520 --> 02:00:56.960 And you say streaker because this beag ends up at 2208 02:00:57.000 --> 02:00:59.319 the back of the swarm and then he zooms forward. 2209 02:00:59.479 --> 02:01:02.199 That's right, and they all see this guy flying. Okay, 2210 02:01:02.239 --> 02:01:03.680 that's where you go. And then he comes back and 2211 02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:06.159 zooms the one that we need to follow. Yeah. Wow. 2212 02:01:06.279 --> 02:01:08.479 And then they get to the right spot and they 2213 02:01:08.600 --> 02:01:10.840 have to tell everybody drop down here. 2214 02:01:10.880 --> 02:01:11.760 And it's right here. 2215 02:01:11.880 --> 02:01:16.039 And so they start producing a pheromone called the Nazonov 2216 02:01:16.119 --> 02:01:19.279 glan pheromone, which is the very tip of the abdomen. 2217 02:01:19.359 --> 02:01:21.359 You can actually see it quite easily because they open 2218 02:01:21.479 --> 02:01:24.079 up the glan and it looks white and they fan 2219 02:01:24.199 --> 02:01:28.039 their wings and we call that the homing scent. And 2220 02:01:28.159 --> 02:01:31.920 so then they all basically go into into the new box. 2221 02:01:32.840 --> 02:01:35.479 So they never split up into two groups. Let's say 2222 02:01:35.720 --> 02:01:40.199 the rogue bees that decided not to follow suit. No, 2223 02:01:40.319 --> 02:01:42.479 they all everyone goes into the same box. 2224 02:01:42.560 --> 02:01:44.399 I know where to go. They go in and set 2225 02:01:44.479 --> 02:01:48.159 up house. That is that's amazing. And here we thought 2226 02:01:48.239 --> 02:01:50.960 bees are just kind of aimlessly wandering around. 2227 02:01:51.159 --> 02:01:53.520 Oh my goodness, it's completely the opposite. 2228 02:01:53.600 --> 02:01:54.079 They are. 2229 02:01:54.439 --> 02:01:57.600 That is cool stuff. Really really concerted on one thing 2230 02:01:57.680 --> 02:01:59.720 that I was interested in, and I know we're talking 2231 02:01:59.760 --> 02:02:03.840 about book a lot that it's a good book, but 2232 02:02:04.600 --> 02:02:07.079 is how bees regulate temperature and it can be very 2233 02:02:07.199 --> 02:02:10.560 cold outside or it can be very hot, and the 2234 02:02:10.640 --> 02:02:14.439 way they the distance between bees and what. Could you 2235 02:02:14.520 --> 02:02:16.239 talk a little bit about temperature regulation. 2236 02:02:16.359 --> 02:02:20.279 Yeah, so some of one of the most important traits 2237 02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:24.199 of bees in this genus APIs is that they actually 2238 02:02:24.439 --> 02:02:27.880 do thermal regulation. So they try to keep the brood 2239 02:02:27.960 --> 02:02:30.840 nest area where the babies are, it's the most delicate area, 2240 02:02:30.880 --> 02:02:31.720 and they try to keep. 2241 02:02:31.640 --> 02:02:35.960 It at around ninety five degrees fahrenheit. 2242 02:02:36.600 --> 02:02:42.159 So if it's above that temperature outside, they do something 2243 02:02:42.199 --> 02:02:43.640 called evaporative cooling. 2244 02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:45.600 Okay, they go and get water. 2245 02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:50.159 They bring in droplets of water, put it on the comb, 2246 02:02:50.640 --> 02:02:52.800 on the surface of the comb, and they fan their 2247 02:02:52.840 --> 02:02:56.720 wings to create a cooling mist to drop the temperature. 2248 02:02:57.279 --> 02:02:59.720 They also hang out on the outside of the box. 2249 02:02:59.760 --> 02:03:03.319 That's called a beard, So it's basically like getting people 2250 02:03:03.359 --> 02:03:06.680 out of a room because of the heat, and so 2251 02:03:06.840 --> 02:03:09.760 that cools down the temperature and if it's too cold, 2252 02:03:10.800 --> 02:03:15.479 then they shiver to produce heat to keep the brood warm. 2253 02:03:16.000 --> 02:03:19.640 So at all times of year they try to keep 2254 02:03:19.720 --> 02:03:24.640 that brude in Asteria at about ninety five ninety seven 2255 02:03:24.680 --> 02:03:26.119 degrees fahrenheit. 2256 02:03:26.439 --> 02:03:27.000 That's amazing. 2257 02:03:27.159 --> 02:03:29.439 In the winter, there's no brood and so they can 2258 02:03:29.600 --> 02:03:35.720 live in a colder environment, and they use that honey 2259 02:03:36.640 --> 02:03:40.039 that they store over winter as their fuel to produce 2260 02:03:40.800 --> 02:03:44.239 calories and to produce the heat. They need to shiver 2261 02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:46.600 so that they can survive the cold winter. 2262 02:03:46.920 --> 02:03:50.319 That is amazing. All right, Well, we gotta take another break. 2263 02:03:50.359 --> 02:03:52.479 We'll be right back. Stay tuned, folks. We're visiting with 2264 02:03:52.600 --> 02:03:57.800 doctor Gulana Rangell, Texas and M University entomologists who focuses 2265 02:03:57.960 --> 02:04:02.079 her research and her teaching on honey My producer has 2266 02:04:02.159 --> 02:04:06.680 a sense of humor. He's playing Beg's music. Oh my gosh, 2267 02:04:06.720 --> 02:04:09.960 that's like dad joke, Alejandra, What the heck did you 2268 02:04:10.079 --> 02:04:13.760 come up with that? That's funny. That's why I'm gonna 2269 02:04:13.840 --> 02:04:15.960 use that one. I'm gonna steal it from. Hey, you're 2270 02:04:15.960 --> 02:04:17.760 listening to garden Line. I'm your host, skipt Director, and 2271 02:04:17.800 --> 02:04:20.680 you're here with doctor jimian Orangel from Texas and M 2272 02:04:20.840 --> 02:04:26.439 University Agerlife the entomology department. She researches and teaches about 2273 02:04:26.560 --> 02:04:29.680 honey bees, and we were picking her brain about amazing 2274 02:04:29.800 --> 02:04:34.359 and fascinating things about honey bees. Right now, we were 2275 02:04:34.399 --> 02:04:37.239 just talking about how bees find flowers and how they 2276 02:04:37.319 --> 02:04:40.359 communicate with each other, how they find their nest, their 2277 02:04:40.479 --> 02:04:43.079 new nest when they those swarm breaks apart and goes 2278 02:04:43.119 --> 02:04:46.720 into two, and how they communicate and make a good 2279 02:04:46.840 --> 02:04:48.159 decision on where to go. 2280 02:04:48.840 --> 02:04:48.960 Uh. 2281 02:04:49.199 --> 02:04:51.520 And I can't even remember all the things we were 2282 02:04:51.520 --> 02:04:54.239 going to talk about. Now I know what was the 2283 02:04:54.439 --> 02:04:56.239 you had just brought up when we were at break 2284 02:04:56.359 --> 02:04:59.880 Their colony losses, the colony colony losses. Yes, thank you, 2285 02:05:00.479 --> 02:05:04.520 thank you. Sometimes I hear like all the bees are 2286 02:05:04.560 --> 02:05:08.840 going away, We're all gonna die, apocalypse concerns, And then 2287 02:05:08.880 --> 02:05:11.520 I hear things like, well they're down, but they come 2288 02:05:11.560 --> 02:05:14.359 back up again and stuff. Could you help make sense 2289 02:05:14.439 --> 02:05:18.319 of that? And where are we right now? You were 2290 02:05:18.359 --> 02:05:22.000 telling me about some concerns on current be popular. Yeah, So. 2291 02:05:24.319 --> 02:05:31.840 Some researchers and government agencies started doing colony laws survey 2292 02:05:32.560 --> 02:05:38.680 right after we had something that was called colony collapse 2293 02:05:38.680 --> 02:05:41.920 disorder or CCD around the year two thousand and seven, 2294 02:05:42.079 --> 02:05:46.760 where a lot of commercial beekeepers observed a sudden loss 2295 02:05:46.880 --> 02:05:53.000 of the entire colony population, so all the workers were gone. 2296 02:05:53.359 --> 02:05:56.880 There was no pesticide kill, because in pesticide kills you 2297 02:05:56.960 --> 02:05:59.399 see the dead bees on the floor of the box 2298 02:05:59.560 --> 02:06:02.840 or outside the entrance. But in this case the bees 2299 02:06:02.880 --> 02:06:06.119 were just gone. There was still food left, and sometimes 2300 02:06:06.199 --> 02:06:09.920 you still have the queen alive with just a few 2301 02:06:10.000 --> 02:06:14.199 workers around her, and they didn't really know what was 2302 02:06:14.279 --> 02:06:17.720 going on. What they did was find a kind of 2303 02:06:17.800 --> 02:06:21.640 a post mortem type of forensic analysis of bees that 2304 02:06:21.960 --> 02:06:25.239 colonies that had collapsed and whatever was left the bees 2305 02:06:25.279 --> 02:06:28.520 that were left, and they assessed most of those colonies 2306 02:06:28.600 --> 02:06:33.079 that had collapsed had really high levels of honeybee associated viruses, 2307 02:06:33.880 --> 02:06:36.199 and not just one or two, but three or four 2308 02:06:36.359 --> 02:06:41.399 viruses all acting at the same time. Since that year, 2309 02:06:41.680 --> 02:06:46.439 we kept records of colony losses year round, so they 2310 02:06:46.520 --> 02:06:53.720 did summer loss, winter loss, and overall loss. And also 2311 02:06:53.960 --> 02:06:57.640 as the beekeepers a question what percentage of laws is 2312 02:06:57.680 --> 02:07:01.760 acceptable to you over winter. It's kind of like keeping livestock. 2313 02:07:02.039 --> 02:07:06.199 You have a certain amount of loss that you have to. 2314 02:07:07.720 --> 02:07:08.119 Accept. 2315 02:07:08.439 --> 02:07:11.079 And so the number was always like fifteen to eighteen percent, 2316 02:07:11.359 --> 02:07:14.520 but the reality of the losses were thirty to thirty 2317 02:07:14.560 --> 02:07:17.319 five percent. And then in the last five years or so, 2318 02:07:17.439 --> 02:07:20.439 we've seen years where we have losses of forty to 2319 02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:24.720 forty five percent. Some years are better, so they decrease 2320 02:07:24.800 --> 02:07:28.039 down to thirty or so. They haven't gone below thirty 2321 02:07:28.359 --> 02:07:32.840 in at least a decade, but something happening. We have 2322 02:07:32.960 --> 02:07:36.199 not lost less than less than thirty percent per year, 2323 02:07:37.239 --> 02:07:41.399 which is incredibly high because it's always twice at least twice, 2324 02:07:41.520 --> 02:07:45.359 if not more, the amount that's acceptable to a beekeeper. 2325 02:07:45.840 --> 02:07:49.720 And imagine if you own one hundred, no let's say 2326 02:07:49.760 --> 02:07:54.439 ten thousand colonies, that's three thousand colonies that you lost, 2327 02:07:54.800 --> 02:07:59.680 and it's a huge loss of life, a huge monetary 2328 02:07:59.760 --> 02:08:04.920 law that you have to get try to recuperate when 2329 02:08:05.039 --> 02:08:08.840 the spring comes by splitting colonies, many ways to try 2330 02:08:08.880 --> 02:08:10.720 to get up to the numbers that you had before 2331 02:08:10.760 --> 02:08:15.840 the winter loss. But lately, lately it has we're basically 2332 02:08:16.039 --> 02:08:23.600 seeing CCD two point zero. But even worse were the 2333 02:08:23.960 --> 02:08:28.079 early reports in February were of a loss of about 2334 02:08:28.119 --> 02:08:31.159 sixty two percent of the colonies in the US had 2335 02:08:31.199 --> 02:08:34.239 been lost. But at least those beekeepers that reported law 2336 02:08:34.920 --> 02:08:37.960 reported their losses, and in this case there were a 2337 02:08:38.079 --> 02:08:41.520 lot of commercial beekeepers. And so in the US about 2338 02:08:41.600 --> 02:08:45.239 ninety five percent of all bees managed colonies are owned 2339 02:08:45.239 --> 02:08:49.079 by only about five percent of beekeepers. So if you 2340 02:08:49.159 --> 02:08:52.760 get a huge number of commercial beekeepers reporting losses, then 2341 02:08:52.800 --> 02:08:57.159 you can actually account for most of the managed colonies 2342 02:08:57.199 --> 02:09:00.399 in the US, which the number fluctuates between two five 2343 02:09:00.439 --> 02:09:04.920 and two point eight million colonies. And so it was 2344 02:09:05.039 --> 02:09:08.960 estimated that about one point seven million colonies were lost 2345 02:09:09.680 --> 02:09:10.319 last fall. 2346 02:09:10.840 --> 02:09:12.560 What are we thinking is causing it now? 2347 02:09:12.720 --> 02:09:18.640 So the researchers collected samples again forensic analysis of these 2348 02:09:18.960 --> 02:09:23.479 lost colonies, and they just came out with the news 2349 02:09:23.840 --> 02:09:29.199 about a week ago that it looks to be the 2350 02:09:29.319 --> 02:09:33.439 same old culprit as always. The verroa mite, which is 2351 02:09:33.479 --> 02:09:36.359 a mite that attacks honeybees. It feeds off of their 2352 02:09:36.960 --> 02:09:41.680 blood or hemo lymph and a fat body tissue, all 2353 02:09:41.800 --> 02:09:46.279 while transmitting several honeybee associated viruses. 2354 02:09:46.439 --> 02:09:49.720 Okay, so just for a picture, folks, the verrom i 2355 02:09:49.840 --> 02:09:52.359 think of a dog with ticks on it attached to 2356 02:09:52.399 --> 02:09:55.880 the body of the bee. These are sucking blood out 2357 02:09:55.920 --> 02:09:58.920 of it. And as so many things that suck our blood, 2358 02:09:59.039 --> 02:10:01.359 mosquitoes and others can transmit those diseases. 2359 02:10:01.399 --> 02:10:04.199 That's right and to us in the case of this 2360 02:10:04.840 --> 02:10:06.239 might varroa destructor. 2361 02:10:07.720 --> 02:10:13.800 A bee can get infected or parasitized as a pupa 2362 02:10:14.720 --> 02:10:18.760 during metamorphosis or as an adult or both and so 2363 02:10:19.840 --> 02:10:24.159 because there are no anti viral drugs for bees, the 2364 02:10:24.279 --> 02:10:25.800 only thing that we can do is try to keep 2365 02:10:25.880 --> 02:10:29.920 VIRAA levels low. It's almost impossible to keep them off. 2366 02:10:31.920 --> 02:10:35.760 Almost every colony out there has varroamites, but you have 2367 02:10:35.880 --> 02:10:39.760 to basically have them below the threshold level of injury. 2368 02:10:40.159 --> 02:10:42.800 Okay, Now, I had a short time as a hobby 2369 02:10:42.840 --> 02:10:46.159 bee keeper some hives and we had to deal with 2370 02:10:46.279 --> 02:10:49.079 verromite way back in that time, and we had strips 2371 02:10:49.159 --> 02:10:52.039 that we hung in the hive. I think there were 2372 02:10:52.079 --> 02:10:54.720 apostan strips, but then some people were using like a 2373 02:10:54.800 --> 02:10:57.520 winter green oil or something. What are bee keepers now 2374 02:10:57.640 --> 02:11:02.119 do to deal with verroit keepers are full scale commercial. 2375 02:11:01.880 --> 02:11:05.840 It's actually both ways, both types. So in the nineteen nineties, 2376 02:11:05.840 --> 02:11:12.039 the varroa is an ectra parasite of the eastern honeybee 2377 02:11:12.159 --> 02:11:15.960 in Asia, and then it swapped hosts and now it 2378 02:11:16.079 --> 02:11:19.680 infects our honeybe the western honeybee, and so it's basically 2379 02:11:19.720 --> 02:11:23.199 the honeybee. Our honeybee is not accustomed to having this parasite. 2380 02:11:23.239 --> 02:11:25.760 So when it entered the US in the nineteen eighties 2381 02:11:25.880 --> 02:11:30.840 or so, we immediately it almost decimated the beekeeping industry, 2382 02:11:30.880 --> 02:11:33.079 and so we used the product you said, epistine is 2383 02:11:33.119 --> 02:11:39.039 a pyriethroid fluvalinate. The mites became resistant to it within 2384 02:11:39.119 --> 02:11:41.840 about a decade. So then we moved on to a 2385 02:11:41.920 --> 02:11:46.880 product called kumafaus, an organo phosphate, and they became resistant 2386 02:11:46.880 --> 02:11:50.119 to kumafhaus within a decade. And so then we moved 2387 02:11:50.159 --> 02:11:54.880 to amitras, which is a for mammidine and luckily for us, 2388 02:11:55.199 --> 02:11:59.520 it's been effective for the last twenty years up until now. 2389 02:12:00.359 --> 02:12:04.720 So the report about the high viral viral levels that 2390 02:12:04.920 --> 02:12:08.119 cause all of these bees to die is because we're 2391 02:12:08.199 --> 02:12:11.520 seeing more and more amitrized resistance in the my population. 2392 02:12:11.680 --> 02:12:14.640 Well, we know from insect control in general that when 2393 02:12:14.680 --> 02:12:18.479 you put all your eggs in one basket as the clock, yes, 2394 02:12:19.239 --> 02:12:20.119 it's going to end. 2395 02:12:20.439 --> 02:12:25.039 So, especially hobby beekeepers, they because they have time and 2396 02:12:25.760 --> 02:12:29.359 fewer colonies to treat, they can use organic acids like 2397 02:12:29.920 --> 02:12:32.079 oxalic acid formic acid. 2398 02:12:33.319 --> 02:12:34.960 Thymal is another. 2399 02:12:36.720 --> 02:12:40.000 Type of product that is less harmful to the bees 2400 02:12:40.199 --> 02:12:42.720 because there's a lot of sublethal effects of these chemicals 2401 02:12:42.840 --> 02:12:47.439 on the bees that we want to protect. But it's 2402 02:12:47.560 --> 02:12:51.000 just not very realistic for use in the commercial setting 2403 02:12:51.119 --> 02:12:54.560 because there are a lot of temperature and humidity restrictions 2404 02:12:54.600 --> 02:12:59.079 when applying these products. So we are kind of in 2405 02:12:59.239 --> 02:13:04.279 a moment of discovery for new products. There's a new 2406 02:13:04.359 --> 02:13:10.079 technology called RNA interference that it's showing promising results that's 2407 02:13:10.119 --> 02:13:13.920 stopping the reproduction of the varroamite, and they're trying to 2408 02:13:14.000 --> 02:13:16.520 get that product out this year here in the US. 2409 02:13:17.479 --> 02:13:22.159 A couple more chemistries that are in the horizon, but 2410 02:13:23.239 --> 02:13:26.119 there's not a whole lot of new products. It's new 2411 02:13:26.199 --> 02:13:30.039 formulations of the same old products that are coming out soon. 2412 02:13:30.520 --> 02:13:33.279 So I know a lot of a number of our 2413 02:13:33.359 --> 02:13:37.119 listeners do be keeping, amateur beekeeping. Where would someone like 2414 02:13:37.199 --> 02:13:39.800 that go for information? I mean, you don't want them 2415 02:13:39.840 --> 02:13:42.720 all calling you at home for help with their bees. 2416 02:13:42.880 --> 02:13:45.000 So is there like some online Does AGR Life have 2417 02:13:45.039 --> 02:13:47.319 any kind of publication, or is your certain books or 2418 02:13:47.359 --> 02:13:48.199 what would you recommend? 2419 02:13:48.279 --> 02:13:49.079 Yeah, I would recommend. 2420 02:13:49.159 --> 02:13:50.640 So we have. 2421 02:13:52.640 --> 02:13:56.640 Our website, you know, Tamyo Honeybee Lab do edu has 2422 02:13:56.880 --> 02:14:02.000 a section for bekeeper resources. Because we're in Texas, we 2423 02:14:02.039 --> 02:14:05.199 also have the Texas Beekeepers Association, which has a lot 2424 02:14:05.279 --> 02:14:08.560 of useful resources on their website, but one that is 2425 02:14:08.840 --> 02:14:13.439 really good. Actually a couple places the Honeybee Health Coalition. 2426 02:14:13.840 --> 02:14:20.000 It's a nonprofit organization. Honeybeehealth Coalition dot com has amazing 2427 02:14:20.159 --> 02:14:26.119 resources for beekeepers. And Project APIs M as in apes Malifa, 2428 02:14:26.199 --> 02:14:29.920 which is the the scientific name of the western honeybee. 2429 02:14:29.960 --> 02:14:33.960 So Project aps M we call it PAM, has a 2430 02:14:34.119 --> 02:14:36.000 lot of resources. 2431 02:14:36.399 --> 02:14:37.520 Mostly this is for. 2432 02:14:37.640 --> 02:14:41.039 Mostly for honeybees, but if you're looking for stuff regarding 2433 02:14:41.239 --> 02:14:45.239 other bees, not just honeybees, the Surse Society has a 2434 02:14:45.319 --> 02:14:46.960 lot of information as well. 2435 02:14:46.920 --> 02:14:50.319 And that's CEO. No, it's with an x x O 2436 02:14:50.600 --> 02:14:55.399 x E R r c E SBS Society. Okay, what 2437 02:14:55.640 --> 02:14:56.920 was the a n M website? 2438 02:14:56.960 --> 02:14:57.760 Did you tam. 2439 02:14:59.520 --> 02:15:00.319 Honeybee Lab? 2440 02:15:00.920 --> 02:15:07.520 Okay, honeybee Lab? Good, well, wow, that is that is interesting. 2441 02:15:07.600 --> 02:15:10.239 We've got about forty five seconds here to to kind 2442 02:15:10.239 --> 02:15:13.000 of wind this up. So the bottom line is we're 2443 02:15:13.079 --> 02:15:16.199 in a kind of scary spot right now. We've got 2444 02:15:16.239 --> 02:15:20.319 the worst resurgence of the problem that we've seen, and 2445 02:15:21.279 --> 02:15:26.119 our product options are somewhat minimal yep. And so that's 2446 02:15:27.039 --> 02:15:27.720 kind of interesting. 2447 02:15:27.880 --> 02:15:32.279 It is interesting for agriculture, for food security, for biodiversity. 2448 02:15:32.560 --> 02:15:36.840 Yeah, because honeybees are an agricultural enterprise, just like a 2449 02:15:36.920 --> 02:15:40.039 dairy cattleman has dairy cows and he brings them in 2450 02:15:40.119 --> 02:15:42.439 and milks them to get the milk and things. We 2451 02:15:42.640 --> 02:15:46.479 professionally manage our little herds honeybees that are out there, 2452 02:15:47.479 --> 02:15:50.479 and it does have a significant effect. We're going to 2453 02:15:50.520 --> 02:15:51.960 have to take a break here for the top of 2454 02:15:52.039 --> 02:15:53.920 the news, but we're going to come back and we'll 2455 02:15:53.960 --> 02:15:57.000 be spending the next half hour the rest of the 2456 02:15:57.039 --> 02:16:01.279 show today with doctor Wrangel. We're with doctor Jianne Wrangel today. 2457 02:16:01.880 --> 02:16:03.520 We're going to spend the last part of the show 2458 02:16:03.560 --> 02:16:06.439 this morning, the last thirty minutes, talking a few more 2459 02:16:06.479 --> 02:16:08.760 things about honey bees. Thank for those of you I 2460 02:16:08.880 --> 02:16:10.680 know you'd like to call in. We'll be back live 2461 02:16:10.760 --> 02:16:14.119 tomorrow morning six to ten for all your calling questions. 2462 02:16:14.199 --> 02:16:17.399 So if you have a bee question and I would 2463 02:16:17.479 --> 02:16:19.199 like to get it in real quick, we'll be happy 2464 02:16:19.239 --> 02:16:22.039 to take a question specifically about something we're talking about 2465 02:16:22.079 --> 02:16:26.039 about bees. Doctor Wrangel, I wanted to go into the issue. 2466 02:16:26.159 --> 02:16:29.000 We have a problem with crape myrtle bark scale. They 2467 02:16:29.159 --> 02:16:33.040 suck the juices on of the plant. They basically excrete 2468 02:16:33.079 --> 02:16:35.959 out the sugary substances and we get the black city 2469 02:16:36.040 --> 02:16:38.440 mold all over our crpe myrtles, and people have a 2470 02:16:38.520 --> 02:16:42.600 fix with that. It's hard to control and systemic insecticides, 2471 02:16:42.680 --> 02:16:49.120 the neonicotoid types are fairly effective against it, but once 2472 02:16:49.200 --> 02:16:52.399 you start putting those into plants, you see reports of 2473 02:16:52.520 --> 02:16:55.680 bee losses and things on certain kinds of trees. I 2474 02:16:55.760 --> 02:16:58.280 think you guys did some studies a good while back 2475 02:16:58.559 --> 02:17:00.719 on crpe myrtles and talked to us a little bit 2476 02:17:00.719 --> 02:17:03.040 about the importance of craige myrtle's to bees and then 2477 02:17:03.079 --> 02:17:04.799 the issue of so how do I can what do 2478 02:17:04.879 --> 02:17:07.479 I do about scale if I've got the honey bees. 2479 02:17:07.879 --> 02:17:09.799 So crape myrtle is a great. 2480 02:17:12.159 --> 02:17:17.639 Type of tree that produces and provides polland to honeybees, 2481 02:17:18.680 --> 02:17:22.719 especially in times of year when there's nothing else available. 2482 02:17:23.280 --> 02:17:28.000 We did that study on what bees consume in urban settings, 2483 02:17:28.680 --> 02:17:31.520 and we actually had it in five different cities across 2484 02:17:31.559 --> 02:17:36.000 the US, and here in Texas, we did it around 2485 02:17:36.159 --> 02:17:39.520 the city of Austin, and we found that crape myrtle 2486 02:17:39.799 --> 02:17:42.879 was the one of the primary pollen sources for bees 2487 02:17:42.920 --> 02:17:43.639 and urban settings. 2488 02:17:44.239 --> 02:17:45.879 You're looking at what bees are bringing back to the 2489 02:17:45.959 --> 02:17:48.719 hive in the summer, and craig myrtle was number one. 2490 02:17:48.879 --> 02:17:52.520 Yeah, we had pollen traps which collect the poland that 2491 02:17:52.600 --> 02:17:55.559 the bees are collecting. We put them at the entrance 2492 02:17:55.600 --> 02:17:57.639 of the hive, and so it kind of lets the 2493 02:17:58.079 --> 02:18:00.520 little balls that they have of pollend on their legs. 2494 02:18:01.159 --> 02:18:06.559 They can't get through these little grits without the balls 2495 02:18:06.680 --> 02:18:08.680 falling off, and so then you have a little tray 2496 02:18:08.719 --> 02:18:10.520 at the bottom and you collect what the bees are 2497 02:18:10.680 --> 02:18:15.000 bringing in. And so we did the collection of pollen 2498 02:18:16.120 --> 02:18:20.399 every month, once a month, at at least five different 2499 02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:26.959 locations per per city, and crape myrtle came to be 2500 02:18:27.280 --> 02:18:31.920 one of the most important food sources in not just 2501 02:18:32.079 --> 02:18:36.159 Texas in Florida as well so in other urban settings 2502 02:18:36.200 --> 02:18:40.479 in other parts of the country. What also we found 2503 02:18:40.680 --> 02:18:44.760 was we did the pesticide residue analysis of all of 2504 02:18:44.840 --> 02:18:49.479 these pollen types, and we were pleasantly surprised to find 2505 02:18:49.559 --> 02:18:56.399 that urban pollend doesn't contain as much pesticides as we 2506 02:18:56.639 --> 02:19:02.559 thought they would have. The polony is relatively clean in 2507 02:19:02.760 --> 02:19:07.959 urban settings. Even though we did find some traces of chemicals, 2508 02:19:08.040 --> 02:19:13.000 including some nicotinoids, a lot of them were below the 2509 02:19:13.120 --> 02:19:21.000 level of detection. What we did find more of for fungicides, Yes, 2510 02:19:21.639 --> 02:19:27.479 in some of these trees, but again not an alarming 2511 02:19:27.600 --> 02:19:29.920 levels like you would find in agricultural settings. 2512 02:19:30.360 --> 02:19:33.280 So maybe if someone was going to use you know, 2513 02:19:33.559 --> 02:19:36.639 those products have some advantages and that you're not like 2514 02:19:36.799 --> 02:19:38.840 nuke and the whole plant. So a honeybee, I mean 2515 02:19:39.079 --> 02:19:41.159 lady bee lands on the plant or lace wing, and 2516 02:19:41.239 --> 02:19:44.120 it's it's landing on the poison. It's the things that 2517 02:19:44.159 --> 02:19:46.159 are sucking juices out of the plant. They get it 2518 02:19:46.200 --> 02:19:48.680 because it's in the plumbing of the plant. So that's 2519 02:19:48.719 --> 02:19:52.360 a nice advantage. But you're expinning that the damage is 2520 02:19:52.399 --> 02:19:55.680 a little minimal. So would you recommend maybe trying to 2521 02:19:55.879 --> 02:19:59.399 time your applications when it's not like peak. 2522 02:19:59.399 --> 02:20:03.680 Exactly, And that applies to any plant if the use 2523 02:20:03.719 --> 02:20:09.200 of any systemic insecticide should be done avoiding the peak 2524 02:20:09.319 --> 02:20:12.799 blooming time so that the bees don't have access to 2525 02:20:13.120 --> 02:20:15.719 potentially contaminated pollen and nectar. 2526 02:20:15.920 --> 02:20:19.440 Yeah, during a break we're visiting and I was talking 2527 02:20:19.440 --> 02:20:21.840 about squash and squash, you know, have these blooms that 2528 02:20:21.920 --> 02:20:23.920 we have to have pollinated because it's separate male and 2529 02:20:23.959 --> 02:20:26.840 female flowers, and if you kill your bees, you're not 2530 02:20:26.879 --> 02:20:30.479 gonna get any squash. And so finding a time with 2531 02:20:30.600 --> 02:20:32.719 something that doesn't last a lot, Like you put seven 2532 02:20:32.799 --> 02:20:34.879 dust out there and it's gonna kill bees for weeks, 2533 02:20:35.840 --> 02:20:38.280 whereas some things that break down really fast and then 2534 02:20:38.360 --> 02:20:41.399 timing them when the bees aren't out as a strategy. 2535 02:20:41.520 --> 02:20:44.239 So and something we should be aware of our flower 2536 02:20:44.319 --> 02:20:45.760 gardens and other things that's right. 2537 02:20:46.959 --> 02:20:51.879 We also have to be concerned with, like incidental exposure. 2538 02:20:52.280 --> 02:20:54.840 For example, you're trying to spray. 2539 02:20:57.760 --> 02:21:01.000 You know, let's say the crape myrtle, well in this 2540 02:21:01.159 --> 02:21:03.559 case not as systemic insect as I'm talking more like 2541 02:21:03.680 --> 02:21:06.600 spray type of pest society. And so you can have 2542 02:21:07.159 --> 02:21:10.200 weeds at the bottom that bees are visiting that may 2543 02:21:10.719 --> 02:21:15.959 also get contaminated. So there's that incidental exposure. 2544 02:21:16.040 --> 02:21:19.360 Yeah, and wheats are a really important source of pollen 2545 02:21:19.440 --> 02:21:23.760 and nectar plants. And I know, I realize I'm a 2546 02:21:23.840 --> 02:21:26.120 lot of faithful listening right now. And we've got some 2547 02:21:26.319 --> 02:21:30.440 of you who your lawn has to be perfect, weed free, manicured, 2548 02:21:31.719 --> 02:21:33.799 you name it. I get that. And then we got 2549 02:21:33.840 --> 02:21:37.000 others of you that would just be as happy with 2550 02:21:37.120 --> 02:21:39.520 weeds blooming and bees flying all over the grass and 2551 02:21:39.600 --> 02:21:42.959 everything as anybody would. But there are a lot of 2552 02:21:43.200 --> 02:21:47.959 our lawn weeds that are popular with bees, so especially 2553 02:21:48.120 --> 02:21:49.959 I always think of chick weed because every time I'm 2554 02:21:50.000 --> 02:21:51.799 down in the grass and there's chick weed blooms, it's 2555 02:21:51.840 --> 02:21:54.680 like there's honey bees on them. I've just noticed that. Well, 2556 02:21:54.719 --> 02:21:56.799 we have a caller that I want to bring in 2557 02:21:57.120 --> 02:22:01.520 with a question less in Dayton, Texas, out east of Houston. Hey, 2558 02:22:01.639 --> 02:22:02.920 lest welcome to the garden line. Do you have a 2559 02:22:03.000 --> 02:22:04.000 question for Doctor Range? 2560 02:22:05.159 --> 02:22:05.440 I do. 2561 02:22:05.920 --> 02:22:09.280 I am a six year bee keeper. I have six 2562 02:22:09.399 --> 02:22:14.280 hives and I have gotten one hive that I let well, 2563 02:22:14.360 --> 02:22:15.600 I let them all requeen. 2564 02:22:16.639 --> 02:22:16.760 Uh. 2565 02:22:17.239 --> 02:22:20.680 And it's just something that I wanted a natural uh 2566 02:22:21.719 --> 02:22:23.959 set of bees that without having to kill the queen 2567 02:22:24.000 --> 02:22:24.719 and not a queen. 2568 02:22:25.239 --> 02:22:26.200 I let them requeen. 2569 02:22:26.280 --> 02:22:30.159 But I have one hive that has gotten so aggressive 2570 02:22:30.680 --> 02:22:32.319 that it's actually put me in the hospital. 2571 02:22:32.479 --> 02:22:33.479 So uh. 2572 02:22:33.840 --> 02:22:40.040 Any ideas on on uh fixing that or resolving that problem? 2573 02:22:40.120 --> 02:22:40.559 Are you ever? 2574 02:22:42.120 --> 02:22:42.399 Do you. 2575 02:22:44.280 --> 02:22:47.440 Have access to the queen or is it too large 2576 02:22:48.639 --> 02:22:49.479 and different? 2577 02:22:52.239 --> 02:22:57.680 It's uh, I got four tens uh on it now 2578 02:22:57.840 --> 02:22:59.639 so that you know the top to it for honey, 2579 02:22:59.719 --> 02:23:02.719 and actually, to be honest with you, it's my biggest 2580 02:23:02.799 --> 02:23:07.399 produced and honey hive that I ever had, but. 2581 02:23:09.000 --> 02:23:09.360 The queen. 2582 02:23:11.079 --> 02:23:13.360 Yeah, I think the easiest. 2583 02:23:13.959 --> 02:23:21.000 Sorry, you can keep going. 2584 02:23:21.200 --> 02:23:24.639 You said you're afraid what I said, Yeah, you said, 2585 02:23:24.799 --> 02:23:27.120 do I have access to the queen. It's to the 2586 02:23:27.200 --> 02:23:30.200 point where I'm afraid to even get in there and 2587 02:23:30.280 --> 02:23:32.159 look for it because when I go by the hive, 2588 02:23:32.360 --> 02:23:39.000 just walking by the hive, I'm covered in bees. That's 2589 02:23:39.040 --> 02:23:39.760 with full suit. 2590 02:23:39.879 --> 02:23:42.040 So mm hmm. 2591 02:23:43.040 --> 02:23:46.200 Yeah, I think the only way to fix that problem 2592 02:23:46.280 --> 02:23:49.079 is to re queen that colony. And so one easy 2593 02:23:49.239 --> 02:23:53.520 way could be with one of those you can actually 2594 02:23:53.680 --> 02:23:57.079 jerry rig your own little swarm box where you can 2595 02:23:57.200 --> 02:24:02.000 use a funnel and uh get the with a queen excluder. 2596 02:24:02.120 --> 02:24:04.959 So you just kind of dump all the bees into 2597 02:24:05.040 --> 02:24:07.840 a box through the queen excluder and hope, hope that 2598 02:24:07.959 --> 02:24:10.680 the queen will be caught at the top and then 2599 02:24:10.760 --> 02:24:12.719 move away so that you can get her. 2600 02:24:12.840 --> 02:24:14.639 And requeen the colony. 2601 02:24:15.639 --> 02:24:18.239 What are the chance, being in Southeast Texas that they 2602 02:24:18.319 --> 02:24:18.799 have all? 2603 02:24:18.920 --> 02:24:21.040 Right, there we go, Well, thank you, I appreciate, I 2604 02:24:21.079 --> 02:24:24.520 appreciate the call less, and I thank you doctor Rangel 2605 02:24:24.719 --> 02:24:26.120 for being with us. We're gonna come back. We got 2606 02:24:26.200 --> 02:24:29.680 one more segment today, folks, So hang on with your questions. 2607 02:24:30.000 --> 02:24:34.319 Seven one three two one two ktr H. All right, 2608 02:24:34.360 --> 02:24:37.719 folks are back the last little segment of the morning. 2609 02:24:38.280 --> 02:24:41.239 We are visiting and have been visiting with doctor Juliana 2610 02:24:41.360 --> 02:24:45.319 Rangel from Texas and M University Entomology Department. She is 2611 02:24:45.399 --> 02:24:49.319 a researcher and a professor in bee keeping and bees 2612 02:24:49.479 --> 02:24:51.799 and all things bees. If you've been listening very long, 2613 02:24:51.920 --> 02:24:54.920 you've already probably had your mind blown about the amazing 2614 02:24:55.000 --> 02:24:57.079 world of bees and what we're learning now. 2615 02:24:57.680 --> 02:24:57.799 Uh. 2616 02:24:57.959 --> 02:25:00.719 And we have quite a b industry here in the 2617 02:25:01.959 --> 02:25:03.040 in the state of Texas. 2618 02:25:03.159 --> 02:25:05.799 Yeah, Texas has a lot of commercial. 2619 02:25:06.840 --> 02:25:12.600 Beekeepers. We don't have the exact number, but it's several 2620 02:25:12.840 --> 02:25:16.040 beekeepers in the state. They actually move quite a bit 2621 02:25:16.159 --> 02:25:21.239 because most of commercial beekeepers dedicate a lot of their 2622 02:25:21.559 --> 02:25:26.079 enterprise to pollination of crops, agricultural crops, and start off 2623 02:25:26.840 --> 02:25:31.079 in February with the pollination of almond in California, California. 2624 02:25:31.159 --> 02:25:36.239 So about two million colonies of bees are taken to California, Yes, 2625 02:25:36.719 --> 02:25:40.719 across from all the way from Florida and the northeast 2626 02:25:40.799 --> 02:25:42.639 all the way to the central Valley of California. For 2627 02:25:42.719 --> 02:25:47.399 pollination of almond, and then from there the migration kind 2628 02:25:47.440 --> 02:25:51.399 of takes off, going to up and down the Pacific 2629 02:25:52.000 --> 02:25:57.200 northwest and down south California, and then going west to 2630 02:25:57.360 --> 02:26:00.559 all the other state and then about some is where 2631 02:26:00.600 --> 02:26:04.959 we get our clover honey production in the north and 2632 02:26:05.120 --> 02:26:08.440 south Dakota and Minnesota. So a lot of people from 2633 02:26:08.840 --> 02:26:15.879 the Texas area have kind of like dual citizenship and 2634 02:26:16.040 --> 02:26:19.520 they are also staying They stay in Texas for some 2635 02:26:19.719 --> 02:26:22.280 part of the year, but then they go and live 2636 02:26:22.920 --> 02:26:25.360 in Minnesota or the Dakota's for a few months. 2637 02:26:25.600 --> 02:26:27.639 So these bees know what it's like to be in 2638 02:26:27.719 --> 02:26:29.760 a rock band on tour. You just jump on the 2639 02:26:29.840 --> 02:26:31.719 bus and every night you're in a different town. 2640 02:26:31.840 --> 02:26:35.159 And that's right, But imagine being like that in by 2641 02:26:35.239 --> 02:26:39.239 the millions. There's a lot of chances of anyone gets 2642 02:26:39.319 --> 02:26:43.719 sick on the bus. Yeah, everyone gets sick. So it 2643 02:26:43.840 --> 02:26:45.040 happens to the bees as well. 2644 02:26:45.159 --> 02:26:47.959 Yeah, we're talking about romaid. So you go somewhere where 2645 02:26:47.959 --> 02:26:51.200 there's a problem, and now you're taking it everywhere. 2646 02:26:50.840 --> 02:26:56.079 You go, so that new place, they get infected, they 2647 02:26:56.159 --> 02:26:59.520 get sick, they get stressed from just being moved around 2648 02:26:59.600 --> 02:26:59.920 so much. 2649 02:27:00.719 --> 02:27:03.040 Yeah, I bet they typically move at night, right that. 2650 02:27:03.200 --> 02:27:06.319 Night, but because they have to go, like if they're 2651 02:27:06.360 --> 02:27:09.559 going from Florida to California, it's gonna take more than 2652 02:27:09.639 --> 02:27:10.120 just one day. 2653 02:27:10.399 --> 02:27:12.479 Well, we got a couple of callers here. I'm gonna 2654 02:27:12.680 --> 02:27:15.079 have to folks, just for the sake of time, I'm 2655 02:27:15.079 --> 02:27:18.479 gonna refer your calls over here with doctor and go one. 2656 02:27:18.719 --> 02:27:21.040 First of all, Bruce and Lagrange had talked about the 2657 02:27:21.200 --> 02:27:25.000 Texas Queen not having a queen Breeders Association, I believe, 2658 02:27:25.120 --> 02:27:28.600 and some of what doctor or Professor Slater is doing, 2659 02:27:28.879 --> 02:27:29.760 we talk a little bit about it. 2660 02:27:29.840 --> 02:27:33.079 Yeah, So doctor Garrett Slater, great addition to our team, 2661 02:27:33.680 --> 02:27:36.760 got hired about a year ago for extension apa culture, 2662 02:27:37.680 --> 02:27:40.920 which we didn't have before, and he is actually very 2663 02:27:41.000 --> 02:27:47.040 interested in creating a breeding program for honeybees here in 2664 02:27:47.120 --> 02:27:50.520 our state. So I think we just have to stay 2665 02:27:50.600 --> 02:27:54.319 tuned because I think there will be something similar to 2666 02:27:54.520 --> 02:27:58.040 a Queen Producers Association in Texas in the years to come. 2667 02:27:58.280 --> 02:28:01.120 And one thing that about that is when you have 2668 02:28:01.319 --> 02:28:03.639 a good source of new queens, you can fix a 2669 02:28:03.680 --> 02:28:06.159 lot of problems with the hive very quickly. 2670 02:28:06.399 --> 02:28:09.680 Yeah, Like the previous caller asking about a very aggressive 2671 02:28:09.760 --> 02:28:12.040 colony and what to do with that. You have to 2672 02:28:12.200 --> 02:28:16.200 requeen that colony, especially if it's unbearable to work with 2673 02:28:16.360 --> 02:28:18.600 because of its aggressive tendencies. 2674 02:28:18.680 --> 02:28:19.920 It's just not fun. 2675 02:28:20.440 --> 02:28:23.319 Yeah, so you have to requeen. Well, I also have 2676 02:28:23.360 --> 02:28:25.360 a call from Mark, and Mark, I'm going to pass 2677 02:28:25.399 --> 02:28:27.920 your call along here, but do you have an opinion 2678 02:28:28.079 --> 02:28:31.719 about maybe taking honey in the morning to reduce allergies? 2679 02:28:31.760 --> 02:28:35.639 And I'm going to expand that question to be pollen. 2680 02:28:36.479 --> 02:28:39.440 I had tried. I can tell I'm probably putting it 2681 02:28:39.479 --> 02:28:41.680 from the spider, but I tried taking little bits of 2682 02:28:41.719 --> 02:28:44.120 b pollen and boy, when I took I mean it's 2683 02:28:44.200 --> 02:28:46.079 like a less than a quarter an eighth of a 2684 02:28:46.120 --> 02:28:49.600 teaspoon of it, my eyes started watering and my nose 2685 02:28:49.719 --> 02:28:52.360 it was like I was having an allergy from it. 2686 02:28:53.200 --> 02:28:54.639 Do you know of and I know you're not a 2687 02:28:54.719 --> 02:28:58.959 medical doctor, but any research that might show that by 2688 02:28:59.120 --> 02:29:03.760 doing that you develop benefits or is that a question 2689 02:29:03.840 --> 02:29:05.840 you'd rather like, Okay, what's the next questions? 2690 02:29:06.920 --> 02:29:09.280 I kind of but like my answer to that is 2691 02:29:10.479 --> 02:29:14.000 the research that I've read on the benefits of consuming 2692 02:29:14.280 --> 02:29:15.639 honey or pollen to. 2693 02:29:17.719 --> 02:29:20.000 Fix allergies is very mixed. 2694 02:29:20.360 --> 02:29:24.280 And the problem is you are allergic to a specific 2695 02:29:24.399 --> 02:29:27.879 type of pollen, which means that you are whatever you 2696 02:29:28.000 --> 02:29:30.440 are consuming has to be that pollen, and you sometimes 2697 02:29:30.479 --> 02:29:33.000 don't even know what that pollen is or whether it 2698 02:29:33.200 --> 02:29:34.719 is a pollen that. 2699 02:29:34.719 --> 02:29:36.600 Would be even consumed by bees. 2700 02:29:36.799 --> 02:29:39.639 Right, because a lot of these pollens that you're allergic 2701 02:29:39.719 --> 02:29:41.319 to our wind pollinated. 2702 02:29:41.000 --> 02:29:43.200 Exactly, And that was the point I was going to make. 2703 02:29:43.239 --> 02:29:46.879 You know, ragweed pollen and things like that. Golden rod 2704 02:29:47.040 --> 02:29:50.719 is not an allergy type pollen, but the heavier pollens 2705 02:29:50.840 --> 02:29:53.840 that bees are picking up, now, there could be ragweed 2706 02:29:53.920 --> 02:29:58.360 pollen on you know, that bloom of sunflower in your garden. 2707 02:29:58.440 --> 02:30:01.000 But yeah, so I mean there is such a thing 2708 02:30:01.040 --> 02:30:06.319 as a plus ebo effect and what consuming and consuming pollen, 2709 02:30:06.360 --> 02:30:10.520 you know, but it has other benefits, protein and other nutrients, right, 2710 02:30:10.600 --> 02:30:12.360 So I'm not saying you should not consume it. But 2711 02:30:12.440 --> 02:30:15.159 the problem is you have to be consuming the pollen 2712 02:30:15.200 --> 02:30:18.920 your allergic to for it to even be any kind 2713 02:30:18.959 --> 02:30:22.120 of Yeah, medical treatment. 2714 02:30:21.920 --> 02:30:23.760 Is that same, and here we are both getting out 2715 02:30:23.799 --> 02:30:26.040 of our league. But that doctors give you the like 2716 02:30:26.159 --> 02:30:28.399 the allergy shots, and I think isn't that a like 2717 02:30:29.000 --> 02:30:29.879 a lower dose. 2718 02:30:30.159 --> 02:30:32.040 That would be a lower dose, but it would be 2719 02:30:32.120 --> 02:30:32.520 more for. 2720 02:30:34.920 --> 02:30:37.760 Yeah, it would have to be for the pollen that 2721 02:30:37.840 --> 02:30:40.000 you're allergic to, or people who are allergic to bees. 2722 02:30:40.120 --> 02:30:42.360 They can do that treatment, but that will go with 2723 02:30:42.559 --> 02:30:44.159 the venom instead of pollen. 2724 02:30:44.280 --> 02:30:49.239 Right, Oh cool, right, well there you go. Oh my, Well, 2725 02:30:49.479 --> 02:30:52.680 but I do recommend taking honey in the morning. It 2726 02:30:52.799 --> 02:30:53.479 makes you happy. 2727 02:30:53.520 --> 02:30:55.600 It's the best sweetener there is. 2728 02:30:55.760 --> 02:30:59.799 Right, it's just that it has all honey contains pollen incidental, 2729 02:31:00.600 --> 02:31:03.639 so you would have to also be consuming the local 2730 02:31:04.079 --> 02:31:07.040 pollen that you might be allergic to from that honey. 2731 02:31:06.840 --> 02:31:07.840 For it to be effective. 2732 02:31:08.079 --> 02:31:15.079 Yeah, my wife made a lacto fermented type of lemonade, 2733 02:31:15.200 --> 02:31:17.879 So basically take lemonade and she put some honey on it, 2734 02:31:18.520 --> 02:31:21.719 and you introduce the yeast and it's not making alcohol. 2735 02:31:21.840 --> 02:31:24.280 It's only a few days that it's in there. But 2736 02:31:24.440 --> 02:31:29.079 it's like you know, all the probiotical kim kimchi and 2737 02:31:29.239 --> 02:31:33.159 saur krawd and all all of those things that are. 2738 02:31:33.239 --> 02:31:35.399 Well, there's a lot of research now being done to 2739 02:31:35.520 --> 02:31:38.360 see if all of these or any of these probiotics 2740 02:31:38.399 --> 02:31:43.520 can improve be health. Okay, so doing some additives to 2741 02:31:43.840 --> 02:31:45.879 the food that we give to the bees in times 2742 02:31:45.879 --> 02:31:49.840 of dursts that might improve their health with the use 2743 02:31:49.879 --> 02:31:50.639 of probiotics. 2744 02:31:51.000 --> 02:31:53.799 All right, I wonder if we could talk to katr 2745 02:31:54.040 --> 02:31:56.000 h and say, could you cancel all the shows for 2746 02:31:56.079 --> 02:31:58.159 the rest of the day because we're really just getting 2747 02:31:58.239 --> 02:32:01.600 started today. That was good. Well, I have about a 2748 02:32:01.719 --> 02:32:05.399 minute left and I'd like you to tell again about 2749 02:32:05.440 --> 02:32:08.840 your lab, website and anything that you might have that 2750 02:32:08.959 --> 02:32:11.000 you'd like to close with, as shurined us. 2751 02:32:11.159 --> 02:32:13.319 So well, first, thanks for inviting me. 2752 02:32:14.399 --> 02:32:17.600 As I said, we run the research and teaching aspect 2753 02:32:17.799 --> 02:32:22.280 of apiculture at Texas A and M, and we have 2754 02:32:22.360 --> 02:32:27.200 a very active Facebook page Tamy Honeybee Lab. We have 2755 02:32:27.399 --> 02:32:29.840 over six thousand followers from all over the world and 2756 02:32:30.600 --> 02:32:33.159 that's where we post the latest news from all the 2757 02:32:33.280 --> 02:32:37.760 research that we're performing, all the accolades that students receive 2758 02:32:37.959 --> 02:32:44.280 for their presentations and their hard work. And we also 2759 02:32:44.319 --> 02:32:49.120 have an endowed an endowment fund that people can donate 2760 02:32:49.200 --> 02:32:54.799 money too, and so if you want to donate money, 2761 02:32:55.000 --> 02:32:59.280 just let us know because we'll always take donations for research. 2762 02:33:00.360 --> 02:33:06.120 But just remember that honeybees are responsible for pollinating one 2763 02:33:06.360 --> 02:33:09.600 third of the food we consume, so keeping them alive 2764 02:33:09.799 --> 02:33:11.239 also keeps us alive. 2765 02:33:11.680 --> 02:33:14.239 There you go, Thank you, doctor Engel. It's been a pleasure. 2766 02:33:14.879 --> 02:33:15.159 Thank you.