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Always read 19 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:07.439 the label or leaflet. 20 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:13.439 Oh hey, it's your building manager texting you so sorry 21 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:15.239 to hear about the death of your praying mantis with 22 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:17.840 a cry laughing emoji again, Alie Ward, why the same 23 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:21.840 intro because we're back part two of Curiology, dual episodes 24 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:24.560 on emoji or emojis. You can say it either way. 25 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.120 I'm not the boss of you, but we do talk 26 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:28.879 about it in part one, so no matter what, start 27 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:33.280 with part one. So last week's episode covered emoji versus emoticons, 28 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:38.319 how they're actually fonts and not pictures, how they get standardized, 29 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.319 the meanings of the more mysterious emoji, how meanings change 30 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:45.200 very swiftly, and how experts keep track of them without 31 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:47.040 wanting to go hide in a cave forever because it's 32 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.879 too much work. And now this episode we get to 33 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:52.640 patron specific questions which were submitted by the folks who 34 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:54.920 support the show at patreon dot com slash ologies, but 35 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:57.719 you can join for one shiny dollar a month. You 36 00:01:57.760 --> 00:01:59.879 can also support the show just by telling a friend 37 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.560 leaving a review. 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Start there, it's linked right 49 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:36.800 in the show notes. But for now, let's talk about 50 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:40.159 how many emojis they are, Who uses emojis, what emoji 51 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:43.120 have to do with your sex life, introverts versus extroverts, 52 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:47.960 representation in emoji, which emoji are coming up soon, the eggplant, 53 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:50.520 the ghosts, the bucket, and so much more, with a 54 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:58.680 perfect gaggle of Emojipedia editors, past and present, Unicode members, scholars, designers, enthusiasts, 55 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:03.479 and curiologists. Because yes, there are three guests again, Jennifer Daniel, 56 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:25.800 Keith Broney and Jeremy Burge. Can I ask you some 57 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:27.400 questions from listeners? 58 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:29.319 Yes? Love a listener question? 59 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:31.439 Okay, good, Adam still wants to know as well as 60 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:34.240 Amanda Smith, Super Sarah Jenlo Rhodes, first time question asker 61 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:38.120 Lena Quinn and Steeping Films wanted to know, in Adam's words, 62 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:42.759 what was the first emoji? Steeping Films aka Erica who 63 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:46.479 will wants to know our cave paintings, consider the og emojis. 64 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:48.520 When do emoji start? 65 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.039 So Emojipedia started twenty and thirteen, so we only had 66 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:54.800 two and thirteen onwards. Okay, After a few years, it 67 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:58.199 became my mission to go back to Japan, and I 68 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.439 was a good excuse to have some nice sushi, a 69 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.199 bit of a travel around, but also to track down 70 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:04.280 people who were there, because these people are alive today, 71 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.080 right the people who designed some of the original sets 72 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.759 and people who worked at these companies and track down 73 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:13.120 these earliest phones and pages were the origin in Japan 74 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.719 and the first emoji that we can track back. And 75 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:18.240 I'm always happy to revise this if we find earlier. 76 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:20.639 But the first emoji we could track back was to 77 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.000 a pager in nineteen ninety seven, which was a love 78 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:27.240 heart really one a single emoji on the whole pager. 79 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.000 You could beep through a message and then put a 80 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:30.879 heart there if you wanted to. 81 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:33.680 Doesn't that say everything about what humans can be? 82 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:34.639 We should have stopped there. 83 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:38.879 Do you have a horror that you like? Because you 84 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:40.920 know how, there's a heart that's in the deck of cards. 85 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:44.959 There's the red heart, there's the sparkle heart. Some people 86 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:46.680 just do a light white heart. 87 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:50.279 They do. Yeah, I remember John Mayer. I think I 88 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:53.959 was joking about only using the cards based heart because 89 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:56.480 it was more manly or something. But I'd always got 90 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.800 people taking it. It's the Internet, but then people take 91 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:01.399 it seriously than that. He a message of mojiped to 92 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:03.600 be like John May is over here saying this is 93 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:08.519 the only alpha Hart tell him he's wrong. He was 94 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:12.600 clearly joking. It was a funny tweet. No, I'm more 95 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:14.800 than happy with the red love heart. I'm happy to 96 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:16.560 share that around. I know some people feel a bit 97 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:19.279 squeamish and they go, oh, it's a bit corporate. Can't 98 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.160 send a love heart, might send the wrong message. I'll 99 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:23.160 send a blue heart. Blue heart turned out to be 100 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:25.839 the corporate heart when we did an analysis at Emojipedia. 101 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:29.040 No corporate like brands use the blue heart more than 102 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.600 any of the others. There's very little difference Otherwise, they 103 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:34.879 mostly just get a random mix where they're all popular. 104 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:37.560 The black one gets some goth associations. 105 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:40.240 I get it. Okay, this came up talking to Jennifer 106 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:42.959 because y'all, I am a champion for that emoji. I 107 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:44.959 love the black Heart. When the black Heart came out, 108 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:45.560 I was like. 109 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:48.920 Finally, how do you use the black Heart? 110 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:53.120 The black Heart is definitely with a certain subset of friends. 111 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:55.600 I feel like it's my old school friends people have 112 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:59.920 no longer people that I was goth with. Definitely, sometimes 113 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:04.000 if I'm tweeting about a bug or a spider or 114 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.959 an affinity for something, you know what I mean, that's 115 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:10.360 a little bit more of an underdog culturally, some kind 116 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:12.959 of critter than it's definitely getting the black cart for sure. 117 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:18.079 More on the chromatics of curiology in a bit, but first, 118 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:21.879 which one is Jeremy's favorite? We all have a favorite heart, right, 119 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.319 I feel like I know this in my own real heart. 120 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:27.560 I just like the red one, although my favorite the 121 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:32.000 red one with the little dot underneath it's a hot exclamation. Mack, No, 122 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:34.439 is that what That's what that's meant? No one knows 123 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:36.800 that's what it is, but that's what it is. And 124 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:39.399 that's how I use it. Whereas I'm sending an excited 125 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:42.319 message where I'm happy and it's something I like, I 126 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:44.480 might finish it off with the hot exclamation mark at 127 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:44.759 the end. 128 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:50.480 I've been using the pink heart with sparkles. I really 129 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:55.639 love using the hearts with other sort of gestural emoji, 130 00:06:55.680 --> 00:07:00.000 Like there's this explosion emoji. I think it's called collision. 131 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:05.519 It is really spiky. Uh huh yeah, heart exploding oh 132 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:06.600 next to each other. 133 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:09.879 Okay, so there are well over twenty different heart emoji 134 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.920 options growing all the time. There's so many ways to 135 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:16.279 say I like you, I almost love you, or wait no, 136 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:18.959 I'm obsessed with you, but in a devoted and safe 137 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:22.000 and not possessive way, or thank you for buying our sandwiches. 138 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:23.279 There's a lot of them. 139 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:25.519 And there's a new pink one, right, Yes, there's. 140 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.600 Three new colored hearts, like blue, gray, and pink. 141 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:30.199 Oh wait, why the gray heart. 142 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:36.000 So we did a big analysis cross linguistic color theory, 143 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.959 and I mean this is what makes the emoji work 144 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:43.279 continually interesting. Okay, So if you look at literature in 145 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:47.680 cross linguistic study, it suggests that there's a maximum of 146 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:52.639 eleven basic color terms, okay, and as languages kind of develop, 147 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:57.000 the names for these colors become present in the language. 148 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:00.160 So stage one would be dark cool, and light warm, 149 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:03.439 so things like black and white. And then the next 150 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.720 phase is red, and then then third phase is either 151 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.920 green or yellow, and the fourth phase is both green 152 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:15.040 and yellow. The next phase is blue than brown, and 153 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.040 then the last one is purple, pink, orange, and gray. 154 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:21.360 Okay, just a color theory wormhole side note for context 155 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:24.360 and also intrigue. All right, So a lot of things 156 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:28.279 happened in nineteen sixty nine, such as moon landings and 157 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:33.080 woodstock and your grandparents smoking hash. But another event was 158 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:37.600 the publication of Basic Color Terms, their universality and evolution, 159 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.840 which was written by anthropologist Overton Brent Berlin and linguist 160 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:45.440 Paul k. Okay. This was a big deal because it 161 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:48.679 was the first major global study of hey, what do 162 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:50.919 you call this color? In a bunch of different languages, 163 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:55.759 and essentially, Berlin and k found that different cultures have 164 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:59.480 more or fewer words for colors, but they tend to 165 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:02.919 add them in the same order. As Jennifer said, you 166 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:04.919 got two words for color, you probably say in black 167 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:07.399 and white, you got three words for color. You probably 168 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.200 identified red. Next colors that are added to language typically 169 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:15.360 are green or yellow. Then blue tends to get adopted 170 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.039 into the language, and then you're browns. And then the 171 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.360 last major color words to be added linguistically are usually 172 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:27.799 purples and pinks and oranges and gray. Now English has eleven, 173 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:34.200 which Berlin and k noted, where white, black, red, green, yellow, blue, brown, purple, pink, orange, 174 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:36.799 and gray. But there are many languages that, for example, 175 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.960 don't make a hard line between green and blue on 176 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:43.840 the chromatic spectrum, and might describe the sky as a 177 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:47.440 pale green color or bamboo as a shade of yellow. 178 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:51.200 And why even who's talking about this? Who cares? Well? 179 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:54.159 I love a mess. And there's a big debate because 180 00:09:54.200 --> 00:10:00.159 of this paper in terms of the concepts universalism and relativism. 181 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:04.360 Berlin and Key argue that humans are all biologically so 182 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:07.919 similar that of course we would add colors in the 183 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:12.320 same order. They are universalists. Others take the relativism side 184 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:16.080 and say that because different cultures may not differentiate between terms, 185 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:20.639 the same color perception is really a cultural phenomenon, And 186 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:23.519 if you want to fall into a rainbow colored rabbit hole, 187 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:27.799 just find the Wikipedia page titled Linguistic relativity and the 188 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:30.799 color naming debate, because it is a hot debate, and 189 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:34.159 it of course influenced a bunch of emoji experts while 190 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:35.600 they were drafting up new hearts. 191 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:39.159 So when you're looking at these eleven basic color terms, 192 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.519 what we were missing were those last two pink and gray. 193 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:47.240 And so you know, when there's like how many colors 194 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:49.600 exist in the world, how much can the I perceive? 195 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:53.440 You have to kind of have a constraint there. And 196 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:56.320 so these eleven basic color terms are a way of 197 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:00.840 creating a closed set of colors and was amongst them. 198 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:03.840 And is that a way for someone to express affection 199 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.679 or maybe approval in a non horny way, because I 200 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:10.080 think gray is the least horny heart. I feel like, 201 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.639 if your boss sends you a get well soon with 202 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:14.799 a gray heart, you're probably not going to take it 203 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:16.679 the wrong way, right, I don't know. 204 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:19.279 I feel like gray heart is like devoid of color 205 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:23.679 and all love. Like oh, and they're like, oh gray heart, 206 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:26.440 like you've been drained of everything? 207 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:26.759 Right? 208 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:30.320 Makes me feel nothing? I feel nothing. I mean, you 209 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:31.639 could think of it a couple of different ways. It 210 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:34.080 could be a silver kind of thing where you use 211 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:39.080 it in that manner. It is also commonly found in 212 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.639 sports team color spaces. Oh kind of think a sports 213 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:45.919 team that has silver, like a Raiders. 214 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:50.720 A Raiders would definitely be exactly right. If anyone's out 215 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:55.080 there just emojing about the Raiders, they're like, yes, because 216 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:55.519 you're not going. 217 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.639 To get sports mascots within the standard, right, there's no brands, 218 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:02.240 there's no logos, So the colored hearts can represent an 219 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.039 abstraction of your affinity. 220 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:04.279 Right. 221 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:07.200 It can also be used like silver Fox, like silver 222 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:10.799 heart Fox or something kind of goth. I'm thinking like 223 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:14.120 black and white films. M hm, you know, like the 224 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:15.200 gray heart would work. 225 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:19.120 How do you feel about the update with at least 226 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:23.480 I messaging where you can respond via holding down the 227 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:25.279 message and then you can do an exclamation, you can 228 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:27.440 do a question mark. Do you feel like that stole 229 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:29.799 the thunder of emojis? Or do you like it's such 230 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:30.519 a limited menu. 231 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.399 I think it's great and helpful, but yeah, you're right, 232 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.879 there's not enough. I need a clap the very minimum. 233 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:41.799 Someone tells you good news, thumbs up, blah awful, hot, nice, 234 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:44.399 but still a bit like a bit like you're not 235 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:46.360 excited for me, like that's lovely deal. 236 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:49.960 Yeah yeah, And the exclamation point sometimes can come off 237 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:51.200 as incredulous, like. 238 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:54.879 Yeah you won that rude and you're. 239 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.360 Like, no, no, no, I'm just saying like that's amazing. 240 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:59.120 You know, had someone before and nowgo what do you 241 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:01.159 make I'll send the X mark is excited and have 242 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.720 a friend go you what do you mean by that? 243 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.000 I'm like, what are you talking about? Clearly I'm happy 244 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.480 for you? What else is this meant to mean? So 245 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.440 you're right, that needs more options? Clapping and I don't 246 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:15.559 like that it says haha, I know laughing crying is cringe, 247 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.159 but like, just give the option for all of them. 248 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.879 There are some iOS updates coming this year allowing you 249 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:23.399 to do more with a whole set. That was something 250 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:26.440 announced last week, So later in the year there'll be 251 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.639 more options done a bit differently, but the same sort 252 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:29.080 of idea. 253 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:31.200 Oh that's so good to know, okay, because I need that. 254 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:36.960 Some people. Lee, Katy Murray, and Abbie and Scarlet Ponder 255 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:42.480 all asked about people who use more emojis. Lee wants 256 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:44.840 to know if there's certain personality types that use them more. 257 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.279 Katie said that they once read that people who use 258 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:52.559 more emojis are more sexually frustrated and read that that 259 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:55.679 means you have a higher IQ. Okay, because you needed 260 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:57.840 to know. There was a twenty fifteen study by the 261 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:02.360 latted Rutgers University anthropologist are Helen Fisher, and it involved 262 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:07.799 analyzing data from over five thousand singles in America via 263 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.679 match dot com and the TLDR is that, yes, people 264 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:16.799 who used emojis did the business more than non emogitarians. 265 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.840 Fifty four percent of emoji users had sex in the 266 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:23.120 year prior. Well, only thirty one percent of non emoji 267 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:27.360 users did. And apparently the more emojis used, the more 268 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:31.440 sexual happened. Which ones you're asking for a friend? Oh, 269 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:34.440 the wink, the smile, and the kiss emojis got the 270 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.440 most play and doctor Fisher told Time Magazine at the 271 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:40.840 time that quote, emoji users don't just have more sex, 272 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.480 they go on more dates and they are two times 273 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.639 more likely to want to get married. What And if 274 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:48.679 you're like, well, okay, that was eight years ago, we 275 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:52.080 should replicate it. Someone did because people care. And in 276 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:55.399 twenty nineteen there was a follow up study titled Worth 277 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:59.639 one Thousand Interpersonal Words emoji as effective signals for a 278 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:03.919 relationship ship oriented digital communication. So they analyzed more survey 279 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:08.399 data and found yes, indeed, past a first date, emoji 280 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:12.480 use with potential partners is associated with maintaining connection and 281 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:16.159 more romantic and sexual interactions. So there you go. But 282 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.679 what if you're not single or not looking to mingle 283 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:21.399 in the nude? So there was another study in twenty 284 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:26.080 twenty one entitled tuned In on Sender's Self Revelation. Emoji 285 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:30.639 and emotional intelligence influence interpretation of WhatsApp messages and that 286 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:33.360 one found that just no matter who you are or 287 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:38.080 what you want, emoji in texts act as self revelations 288 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:42.960 instead of just merely factual exchange, and that emoji may 289 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:48.039 provide cues necessary to extract emotional information from texts, and 290 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.200 emotionally intelligent recipients seem to be especially responsive to that. 291 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:55.840 So people are picking up what you are putting down, 292 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:59.440 especially in emoji form. So don't be ashamed to use 293 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:02.039 something that expresses how you feel, because science says it 294 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:06.120 can clear up miscommunications, it can lead to bonding and boning. 295 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:10.360 Because of bonding, Scarlett Ponder said that they often have 296 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:12.720 moments when they say I really struggle to pick an 297 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:15.840 emoji face it feels like it fits my current emotion. 298 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:19.080 I'm neurodivergent slash autistic, and I wondered if my struggle 299 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:21.480 to find the correct emoji could be related to my 300 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.559 differences in how I feel an express emotion. You know, 301 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:28.879 do you ever hear that different people gravitate toward emojis differently? 302 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:32.080 We definitely had a lot of neurodive division people appreciating 303 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:35.320 emojipedia because they lack the fact that said, here's this 304 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:38.399 face and here's what it means. And obviously there's some 305 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:41.240 wiggle room there, but that was a popular use for it. 306 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:43.399 Who do you think is drawn to them? 307 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:43.639 More? 308 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:46.000 Right? People want to put people in a box and 309 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:49.600 figure out which age group uses emojis the most, men 310 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.039 or women, And it's very hard to get good data 311 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:53.960 on this sort of thing, especially as so much of 312 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.039 its in private chats that we don't have access to. 313 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:01.080 My impression is that it's people who are better communicators, 314 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:05.079 more sensitive, possibly leaning towards women, which makes sense, but 315 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:06.680 it's hard to get the data to back that up. 316 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:09.480 That's that's my opinion, having seen the types of users 317 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:12.480 we get attends to people who care about being clear 318 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:14.559 in their emotions. They want to have it and they're 319 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.720 not afraid in some tech older men. I think it's 320 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:20.920 not as much of a thing now, but we used 321 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:23.319 to get some angry, older sort of tech commentators who 322 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:25.640 think one of them blocked us on the endicta just 323 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:28.039 for I don't know, just sort of calling it a 324 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:30.640 thing for only for kids that just get personally upset 325 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:32.640 by it. And that was only ever saw men get 326 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:36.000 upset by that. I never saw women going dah emojis. 327 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:40.400 Yeah, okay, So let's take the twenty eighteen paper through 328 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:44.400 a gender lens learning usage patterns of emoji from large 329 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:49.599 scale Android users. So researchers did see a statistical difference 330 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:53.839 between how different genders used emojis, to the point that 331 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:57.680 given just the emoji in a message, no text, an 332 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:02.200 AI could accurately predict thisender gender eighty one percent of 333 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:05.960 the time. How how did they do that? What's the tell? Well, 334 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:09.519 the laugh cry emoji was the most popular emoji across 335 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:14.079 all genders, but men tended to favor the streaming tears 336 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:17.400 emoji more than women, and men toss in the monkey 337 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:21.200 with covered eyes one more. But the blushing, smile less 338 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:24.599 frequently than women. Okay, what about other genders? Are just 339 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:27.319 our personalities, all right? There was a twenty eighteen publication 340 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:33.039 mining the relationship between emoji usage patterns and personality, and 341 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:37.680 it looked at get this one point one three billion tweets, 342 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:41.839 and it found that the folks using more emoji they 343 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.400 had to have been like the loud heart on sleeve, 344 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:50.079 heart eyes on sleeve extroverts. Right, No, the people using 345 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:54.680 more emojis introverts, and the researchers say introverted people tend 346 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:59.079 to use more emoji because they prefer implicit visual contexts 347 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:02.960 over iplicit texts where they have to express themselves more directly. 348 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:07.680 So introverts use more emojis. Are you an extrovert, well, 349 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:09.839 you might use them as well, but go for the 350 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:13.519 more positive leaning emojis. And people who score high on 351 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:18.680 agreeableness and personality tests use emoji to lighten the mood 352 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:22.799 and add humor. But if you're neurotic, for example, if 353 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.599 you're me, we tend to use more exaggerated and emotion 354 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:31.640 rich abojis, which is just brutally accurate. Anyone who has 355 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:36.279 received a text for me has probably gotten the anguished face, 356 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:39.200 one like the wailing, open mouthed, crying one. You know 357 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.640 you've gotten that for me, I'm on a deadline anguish face. 358 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:46.039 Are we at a Lacroix anguish face? Me admitting this 359 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:49.319 anguish face? Plus maybe like a little thumbs up emoji? 360 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:52.119 And then maybe I send one that's a wink like okay. 361 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.400 Scarlet Pondra and Keaton Sant both had questions along that line. 362 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:58.960 Keaton one shadow, when will it finally be considered professional 363 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.799 to use emojis and email else? Because a girl can 364 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:05.079 only use so many exclamation marks before I seem insane? 365 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:10.440 So what about in corporate settings? In professional settings, is 366 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:13.319 the tide turning where it is appreciated that you send 367 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:17.640 a skull or a question mark or shrug emoji? 368 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:20.079 I think people wait for the first person. No one 369 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:22.759 wants to be the first one to send it, and 370 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:24.880 once the floodgates are open, and then it goes back 371 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.079 and forth a bit. So I'm sure it depends on 372 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:29.920 your workplace, don't put it in your contract law or whatnot. 373 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:32.359 But I think we're fine. I don't think anyone who 374 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:35.000 is getting annoyed or offended by an emoji in an email, 375 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:36.440 I don't know if I want to work with them. 376 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:38.000 That's a very good point. 377 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:39.799 Yeah, maybe you don't have a choice. Maybe you're in 378 00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:41.440 a job where you don't have a choice. But I 379 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:44.079 say go for it, and if they don't like it, 380 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:45.039 they'll duget over it. 381 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.720 You obviously get a pass you should be using if 382 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:50.720 you send an email without an emoji. It seems like 383 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:55.279 that would be an issue. But have you seen like 384 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:59.039 any kind of corporate culture or workplace culture change toward 385 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:03.759 emoji to help clear up misunderstandings anything like that. 386 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:06.960 Oh? Absolutely, yeah, for sure. I mean there's just like 387 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:08.920 so many different examples that can come to mind. I 388 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:12.000 think it's not a unique situation to emoji. I mean, 389 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:14.400 even if you go back just a few years, the 390 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:18.680 use of punctuation could be seen as unprofessional. Too many 391 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.759 exclamation points, uh huh really, I don't even know, like 392 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:27.559 all caps. And this is again another form of policing 393 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:30.279 language and telling people like okay, no, there are rules 394 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:32.799 and conventions to subscribe to. But if you look at 395 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:35.720 how people play with language, whether it be informal settings 396 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:40.519 like maybe work email to informal ones like just having 397 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:44.400 a conversation, like the people who play with language tend 398 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.480 to skew female right, and so it's about policing how 399 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.599 people speak, and those people who'd like to experiment tend 400 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:54.559 to get policed more. But they're also the ones that 401 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:57.240